The American Spectator : Perry's Last Hope

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 6:57AM

George, I'm frustrated too.
Governor Perry is an extremely articulate man. Go view his tea-party speeches on youtube.

Is he simply trying to obey Ronald Reagan's eleventh commandment "don't bash fellow Republicans"?????
You WILL note that all the TV interviewers are steering well clear of any territory that concerns Obama's mess, and instead are trying to stir up infighting among some fine candidates.

Bob Grant| 10.13.11 @ 8:27AM

Please,

You're supposedly from Texas. Come on. You know he's served adequately in a weak governorship state but has no business running for president.

Not only is he a below average debater, he's demonstrated he's not very nimble either. His defense of Texas' dream act is embarrassing.

It's as though he believes he's entitled to be the nominee simply because he governs over the most conservative state in the Union.

He needs to come home to Texas and serve out his term. Heck, if he wants to run in '14, I'd vote for him again. He's not presidential material. Nothing to see here. Move on.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 11:17AM

FYI, Bob.
I am a sixth generation Texan. I had no relatives in the Alamo, but I damned sure had relatives at the battle of San Jacinto where the war of independance was won.

Like Perry stated..."Texans have just never learned how to bow to oppression..."

Perry has made one mistake: he has used the term "inconsequential" . That is too many syllables.

SemperUbiSubUbi| 10.13.11 @ 12:21PM

Governor Perry is an extremely articulate man. Go view his tea-party speeches on youtube.

Articulate doesn't mean being able to give a speech. There's a good reason he avoided debates as much as he possibly could when running for governor --- zero debates the last time and only one debate the time before that.

There's a good reason that he kept coming back to energy policy over and over and over in this last debate. He doesn't have a good command of facts and doesn't think quickly on his feet.

But you've got to admit the man's gone amazingly far making the best of the little that the good lord gave him.

scotchieguy| 10.13.11 @ 10:47AM

He is not presidential. He seems aloof. He IS unflappable, but in a bad sort of way. When someone attacks him, he cooly talks about something else, like his energy policy, then kind of smirks. He just seems bored. He is a terrible candidate. I was hoping he was the big deal because of all the great things going on in TX. I prefer Gingrich over the rest. He seems like a man among boys. I don't trust Romney. I get tired of mister nine nine nine, but I think he has a great shot at defeating Obama. Good bye race card! How cool would that be, two black candidates going after each other in the debates like in a prize fight! Obama, although a good debater, would finally be exposed for the fraud he is.

Bob Grant| 10.13.11 @ 11:35AM

Cain/Barbour.

Redstateboy| 10.13.11 @ 2:31PM

Cain/Bachmann, Cain/Gingrich, Cain/Perry? Cain/Romney??!? Ron Paul - Treasury Secretary, Sarah Palin - Interior Secretary, Rick Santorum: EPA

JimH| 10.13.11 @ 4:51PM

Get Rick a different job because the EPA needs to go away.

PolishKnight| 10.13.11 @ 10:51AM

Indeed, the left is secretly hoping they get into a mosh pit fight so they can use the quotes later in their own campaigns. "Who is Romney to criticize single payer healthcare when his opponent said..." and "Perry says he's against illegal immigration but he said..."

That said, I'm sick of moderates from Texas. I'd really like some fresh blood even if they lose the general election (perish the thought). That means Cain or Bachmann.

Haven't we had enough moderates since GHB?

Bob K.| 10.13.11 @ 11:23AM

13 months to go before the election and 6 months before the campaigning gets down and dirty and Mr Neumayr here, who sees all and knows all, has eliminated Perry from the running because he doesn't like they way Perry handles Television sound bytes!

Even Charley Rose on Public Television doesn't have this high an opinion of himself as a political analyst!

In 2008 the Republican Party picked the silver tongued John Mc Cain to represent it after 8 years of George Bush the Second who was not exactly the reincarnation of Cicero as an Orator!

Neither Perry, nor Bush or McCain used prompters instead of brains like the current resident of the White House does. And he is who all these wanna be Presidents are running against.

This isn't an Ivy League debating contest that will be coming up next year Mr. Neumayr. It will be won by whoever can separate himself or herself furthest from Obama and his policies.

Jack in Wi.| 10.13.11 @ 7:09AM

Perry is Mr. foot in the mouth. He is George bush inarticulate. We don't need another nitwit from Texas. Perry would be a disaster. I agree with the author above that Perry should spend his huge moneypot attacking Romney. Everything he says about Romney is true. The more Cain, Perry, and Romney are exposed the better I feel about the chances of Dr. Ron Paul. The way the the elites and their media allies are floundering around trying to find someone to be the nominee, the more laughs I have. This is getting to be as funny as big time wrestling. It is Ron Paul or ruin.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 9:35AM

Foot in mouth?

This visit happened right after the debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67bLGiHiFk

LeftCoast| 10.14.11 @ 6:19PM

You seriously found this impressive? There is no articulation of any policy here. This is pure cheerleading with simplistic slogans. Replace the suit with an A&M jumpsuit, change the soundtrack to "push 'em back" and "go Aggies" and photoshop the wrinkles out, and this clip could have been taken 40 years ago.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 12:37PM

Ron Paul is already ruined.

He polls at 5%.

It's now Cain, Romney or Gingrich, who has finally busted through to double-digits.

The Paul-Bots can stop robo-posting the same, tired old polls from questionable sources claiming that "only Ron Paul can beat Obama."

Paul is done. Stick a fork in him, and cry into your anti-Semitic hanky.

Robots for Ron| 10.13.11 @ 12:41PM

LIES! LIES! LIES!

ONLY Ron Paul can save AMERICA!

Ron Paul polls at 110%

EVERYONE wants Ron Paul!

EVERYONE!

click...whirr...repeat...

LIES! LIES! LIES!

ONLY Ron Paul can save AMERICA!

Ron Paul polls at 110%

EVERYONE wants Ron Paul!

EVERYONE!

click...whirr...repeat...

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 12:57PM

The Black Walnut Played The Race Card On The Man From NiggerHead Rock.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:37PM

5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:41PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:04PM

Ron Paul = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:11PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Jack in Wi.| 10.13.11 @ 12:55PM

Dr. Wrong: In Yesterday's Reuters Poll Ron Paul was at 13% and in 3rd place. Take your pick. Romney, Perry, and Paul have money. Romney has the Mormons and the countryclub behind him. Perry still has some evangelical support and some of the countryclub behind him. Ron Paul has a huge contributor base money and a lot of hard working volunteers, that money can't buy. Rassmussen is just a shill for the elites. They can cook any polls that they want. I predicted long ago on this site that Ron Paul would win or come very close in New Hampshire and Iowa. I stand by that prediction. Last time around the leaders were Guilanni, and Thompson. Cain was a nobody a couple of weeks ago. How has that worked out? I never saw a dumber candidate then Cain in Tuesday's debate. Stick a fork in him he is done.

Romney is disliked by 2/3 of the party. Perry has imploded. Cain is a farce. So now the elites are pushing Gingrich who is quite intelligent, but has the moral scrupples of a snake. They tried them all. They begged Christie and Ryan to run. I even saw Jeb Bush on CNN last night sticking a line into the water. Let's face it is Ron Paul or ruin. All the rest are more of the same.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:36PM

Why is Cain a "farce"? Any specific examples?

Looks to me like everything he touches turns to gold.

We know you don't like Jews...Should we add blacks to that list as well, Jack??

Eve Marie| 10.13.11 @ 2:04PM

Don't you people remember what gave rise to the Tea Party Movement? TARP. Here are a few nuggets for you Cain supporters to chew on. If you need more, let me know.

Herman Cain was once one of TARP's strongest supporters
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/herman-cain-my-support-for-tarp-could-be-a-problem.php
One week before the collapse, Cain says the economy is in terrific shape.
004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc126.htm

Eve Marie| 10.13.11 @ 2:06PM

Herman Cain BUSTED in blatant lie during debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpvwZb4z8nw

Is Herman Cain turning out to be the Republican Obama?
http://caivn.org/article/2011/.....ican-obama

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:10PM

Cain is "the Republican Obama"?

Do you know how utterly stupid that sounds?

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:34PM

Michael Tomlinson said that same thing the other day.
Sheesh!

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:09PM

Sorry, but the Tea party movement was birthed (inadvertently) by Barack Hussein Obama.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 3:03PM

The Tea Party Rebellion was a culmination of Voter Frustration, Rick Santilli's Comments On The Chicago Board of Trade Floor & A Former Tea Party Event On December 16th,2007.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:06PM

WRONG!

ANOTHER failed, pathetic attempt by the FIVE-PERCENTERS to give Ron paul credit for something he doesn't deserve.

Outside of the Paul-Bot circle of malcontents, NOBODY credits Ron Paul with the Tea party.

It was RICK SANTELLI who gave the phrase momentum in 2009.

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:14PM

Bullshit RINO-CINO Vote For Any Republican Dr.Reich.

The Tea Party Rebellion was a culmination of Voter Frustration, Rick Santilli's Comments On The Chicago Board of Trade Floor & A Former Tea Party Event On December 16th,2007.

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Simon Templar| 10.16.11 @ 11:53AM

I remember quite well and it was not TARP....it was the bailouts of GM and all the rest of the crony capitalism that ensued that year. As far as the banks, it was the government forcing Wells Fargo and the others to take the money when they did not need it that people had the most problems with.
Rick Santelli was ranting about this not the government taking responsibility of cleaning up its toxic assets via Fannie and Freddie.

No one saw the huge drop coming nor the extent of the damage that was coming from this government driven housing fiasco. Get off of it, Paulbot. He is not getting elected.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:39PM

Cain was a "nobody"?

So much for having a PhD in Math, a job as a REAL rocket scientist, and a highly successful CEO!

In comparison, Jack, other than throwing darts at a map of Israel, what have you ever done with your life?

Eve Marie| 10.13.11 @ 1:41PM

I'm with you, Jack.

Perry is toast. As a Texan, nothing pleases me more. Of the "jobs he created", a whopping 81% of them went to immigrants. He's got TTC and Gardasil against him.

Romney has Romneycare, abortion, and is a puppet for the corporations.

Cain will descend like Perry did, when people realize he's a lying, flip flopper, TARP supporter, Fed insider and his 999 is a crock.

Watch The Real Newt Gingrich on youtube for many reasons against him winning.

Ron Paul is consistent, has a growing base, money from the PEOPLE, and real values and solutions.
At this point, no other candidate is worthy of my vote. Not one. I will vote for him whether he's the nominee, runs 3 rd party, or as a write in. No compromising any longer for this voter.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:45PM

RON PAUL = 5%.

RON PAUL will never be the nominee.

Ron Paul = George McGovern.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:39PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:06PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:14PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:55PM

This amazing "transformation" that you Paul-Bots continually fantasize about is an absolute pipe-dream.

There's something distinctly hypocritical about Candidate Ron paul and his drone-like followers screaming and crying about the size of the Federal Gov't and the abuse of power, but expecting that "Prez" Ron will be able to completely transform the nation back to 1776 with a mere sweep of his magic Libertarian wand.

Then again, the Paul-bots don't think much about reality, the logical extension of their philosophies. They're like children; they want their porridge, and they want it NOW!

Here's a clue:

The CORE ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE in 2012 is to get Obama out of the White House.

To that end, ANY of the GOP candidates is a 1000% improvement. ANY OF THEM!

To that end, I will support WHOMEVER the nominee is, because I realize that Barack Obama is the biggest threat this nations now faces, NOT Mitt Romney. Yes, I will even support and campaign for Ron Paul if he somehow wins the nomination.

To that end, those who plan on staying home on election day to sulk because their guy (or gal) didn't get the nod are spoiled little brats who care more about their own opinions than they do about this country.

That's RIGHT! I SAID IT!

I'll repeat:

ANYONE who stays home on election day because their guy (or gal) did not get the nomination is a SELFISH, UNPATRIOTIC FOOL.

Yes...UNPATRIOTIC.

Enjoy Obama's second term!

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:06PM

Gee Dr.Reich,
That Just Proves That You're The RINO-CINO GOP Ruling Elite Mind Numbed Flunkie Stooge People Said You Are.

Hold Two "Vote For John McCain " Buttons & Call Mittens Romney In The Morning.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:11PM

Ron Paul = 5%

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:40PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:07PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:15PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 3:49PM

We all have our favorites, but I WILL vote for anyone but Obummer. And I would hope and pray that most of the TAS would do the same.

I would hope to get some more conservatives in the Senate, keep those in the house plus a few more, and then we will be able to hold whoever is POTUS accountable.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:33PM

Agreed, Nancy. Been doing that ever since my very first vote.
We MUST hound the Democrats out of office!

Soljerblue| 10.13.11 @ 3:57PM

better get your one-way ticket to -- wherever...Ron Paul will NOT be the nominee.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 1:04PM

Uh Oh !

The Anti-Catholic/Anti-Mormon JoiseyGirl Played The Anti-Semite Card On Dr.Ron Paul's Supporters.

That's Convincing.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:37PM

5%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:01PM

"Recent polls and last night’s debate in New Hampshire indicate that there is in fact a new top tier among Republican primary contenders: former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, Godfather Pizza CEO Herman Cain, and Texas Congressman Ron Paul (left). It’s clear that despite the best efforts of the Establishment and the mainstream media, Paul steadfastly remains a top-tier candidate in New Hampshire. A recent Harvard University Institute of Politics and New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College poll shows that Paul remains in third place with 13 percent of the vote."

The Tea Perty Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:12PM

Ron Paul = 5%

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:15PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Drunken Sailor| 10.13.11 @ 2:11PM

This coming from a man that called Cain "The Black Walnut " just a few minutes ago?

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:12PM

I have a NEW NAME for Ron Paul and his supporters!

"The FIVE-PERCENTERS"

You heard it here FIRST!!!

Paul Bot| 10.13.11 @ 2:35PM

Who says he is going to keep this five percent? When he finally hits bottom Clint will get a true sense of himself. I am sure the 5% hurts but Clint needs to prepare for an even sadder number. In Paul's latest results I feel much better about my anybody but Obama 2012 voting strategy.

Redstateboy| 10.13.11 @ 2:53PM

Ron Paul supporters grow tiresome.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:09PM

Not possible.

All 2 of them on this board (which coincidentally, puts them at about...5%!) are as insufferable as they could ever be.

RON PAUL = 5%.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:32PM

Ha ha! Then, in the not too distant future, it'll be the TWO-PERCENTERS!

Mike D.| 10.13.11 @ 6:28PM

Its already 4% in the Florida poll.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:33PM

Tick-tock.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:18PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:19PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:17PM

Duuuuuuhhh !

The Drunk Attempts To Play The Race Card On Tea Party Clint.

Cain called Himself " Black Walnut".

Jack in Wi.| 10.14.11 @ 11:29PM

Ron Paul is in 3rd place in the Reuters poll released Wednesday. Romney 23%, Cain 19% and Paul 13%. 4 years ago at this time the leaders were Guilanni, Thomson and Huckabee. I predicted at that time tha none of them world get the nomination. I also predicted that Hillary Clinton would not get it either. I predicted that Barack Obama would. Even my black friends were all supporting Hillary. But I told them Obama would win and I was right.

To Quin above. You must have seen a different debate debate then I did. I saw Herman Cain be destroyed by Huntsman, Bachman, Gingrich and especially Ron Paul who caught him in a direct lie. I thought old Gingrich did a great job in attacking the Fed. I expect that Gingrich will be the elites next attempt to keep the pot boiling now that Cain and Perry have imploded. Gingrich is an intelligent man, who has the morals of a snake. It's too bad. He could of been a contender.

Frank Drackman| 10.13.11 @ 7:11AM

I waited all Summer for Rick Perry.
Texas Governor, Military Pilot, Boots, Texas A&M.
And I didn't mind his superficial resemblence to "W", hey he beat the best the Dems had, doesn't matter if the elections were close, makes it better actually.
But then he said he was "Offended" by Michelle Bachmans insinuation that he was swayed by a $5,000 contribution.
Now I know he couldn't call her the "C" word, or B-word, or Pimp-Slap her, but REAL men don't get "Offended" or at least say they are.
Did Dirty Hairy Callahan get "Offended" when the DA let Skorpio go due to an illegal search?
Did Davy Crocket get "Offended" cause Santa Anna wouldn't play fair?
Did Tony Soprano get "Offended" when Johnny Sack's goon made lood remarks to his daughter?
And his Ted-Kennedy-eque disdain for such a measley sum of (Thurstan Howell III voice) Five THOUSAND dollars?
I mean $5,000 gets MY attention, cause if I screw up and take a fake Rolex instead of a real one, I'm out $5,000.
In fact its the $500 Plasma TVs I loan $50 on(at %5 interest. thats right, %5, PER WEEK) that keep the lights of my Pawn Shop on...
Still not sold on Romney, and it's not his Mormonism, and a Baptist Preacher callin another religion a Cult is like Ted Kennedy callin someone a drunk.
Its that Herb Cain lives literally right down the street from me, in fact I saw him in person at Publix a few weeks ago, shook his hand, and wished him well.
OK, it wasn't really Herb Cain, just some poor black guy that looked like him.

Frank

Timothy L. Pennell| 10.13.11 @ 8:08AM

Mark my words. The whole MORMON thing, is gonna be a HUGE Problem.
We can act like it's not, but, it most DEFINATELY will be.

Bob Grant| 10.13.11 @ 8:42AM

The ISLAMIC thing we currently have in the white house will trump any issues most people have with Romney's Mormonism.

His ONLY issue - and it's huge - is RomneyCare. Not only RomneyCare itself but his attempts now to distance himself from it. This calls into question his sincerity. For instance, the editing of his paperback.

These will be issues but weighed against what we now have in the white house, he doesn't look too terribly bad.

A president Romney along with large majorities in the Senate and House looks pretty damn good to me considering what we have now.

Bernard Webb| 10.13.11 @ 9:17AM

@Bob: That's an interesting approach you used in your comment, using an idiotic first sentence to undermine everything that comes after it. I'll have to remember that technique.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 12:43PM

RomneyCare

Flip-Flop on abortion

Support for TARP

Mormon "thing"

BIG PROBLEMS.

elmo| 10.13.11 @ 10:21AM

Timothy I think you are absolutley correct. All of us "real smart" people on this and other simialr sites can talk till we are blue in the face but the Mormon thing is going to cost him enough votes to ensure he loses to Obama. Gallup has a poll that Mormonism does not impact 68% of R's and 64% of I's, what about the other 32%/36%? If those R's and I's don't vote for him he loses.

Sparky| 10.13.11 @ 5:26PM

Wait till they bring up Mitt's magical underwear and that Satan is Jesus' brother.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 9:41AM

Frank,
Here is Governor Perry at his best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbWz1RYGE3Q

martin j smith| 10.13.11 @ 7:45AM

Rick Perry must recognize even though these debates may in his mind be tedious nonsense
he still must behave presidential. He is not doing this. I do not have the time to psychobabble him..
If Perry does not show he behaves in a presidential-like manner very soon at least for me he will be completely OUT. Right now he is almost out but he has a chance, but as time goes on they are getting slimmer by the moment.

Romney must be vetted more vigorously especially on those areas where he appears to agree with Socialist policies such as Romney Care and ( apparently leaked probably from Obama himself ,) a meeting that o took place between his aides and the Obama admin plus Obama personally on planning for Obama Care I think in 2009--not sure ) and there are other issues.

All of the other candidates need further vetting for example on national security and defense issues.

Right now if I had to vote todayI would put it this way--
Cain a yes but--foreign policy issues in question among others
Bachman--needs more work

Santorum--needs more work

Gingrich maybe needs vetting on some his global warming and other stuff related to the reach accross the aisle.

Romney, extremely reluctantly--needs more vetting

Perry-No, he needs to piss or get off the pot

Ron Paul--No, a danger in foreign policy and national security

John Huntsman--Just NO.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 9:45AM

Tell It To The Military.

" Dr. Ron Paul served in the United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years (1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard (1965-1968)."

" Overall, 71 percent of military donations for the 2012 presidential race have gone to Ron Paul, while Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann received five percent, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney eight percent, and Cain 13 percent. All other candidates combined have received three percent of the military donations. "

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Paul Bot| 10.13.11 @ 10:21AM

There was a Clint sighting.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....park-rant/

Perry Algore Cheerleader| 10.13.11 @ 10:49AM

Youth For The Man From NiggerHeah Rock.

http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/.....people.jpg

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:00PM

Ron Paul = 5%

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:37PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:10PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Spartanfan| 10.13.11 @ 5:13PM

Would you two PLEASE QUIT repeating yourselves about the 5% and the 13%...

Good God... BOTH of you give it a rest!

Come up with something fresh to say or stop commenting...

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:32PM

LOL. But it just feels so gooood.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:20PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

TrueBlue| 10.13.11 @ 11:07AM

They only count one time donations of $200 or more (generally limits it to officers, since most enlisted that donate tend to do it in $5-20 amounts at a time), for one thing. Secondly, there is no verification, you can write whatever you want for your profession, and given the number of people who follow Ron Paul religiously it isn't too much of a stretch to see them lying to make their candidate look better than he is.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 12:05PM

" Ron Paul Hauled In $8 Million From 100,000 Donors Last Quarter

2012 presidential hopeful Ron Paul announced today that his campaign raised $8 million last quarter, noting that the money came from over 100,000 donors — almost five times as many contributors as Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

“The amount and nature of donations to Ron Paul proves his fundraising prowess and also demonstrates in real numbers the grassroots support Dr. Paul receives from average Americans,” Paul's national campaign chairman Jesse Benton said in a statement."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:39PM

5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Drunken Sailor| 10.13.11 @ 2:17PM

Bingo TB. And lets not forget it counts ALL employees of the military. That includes all civil service (of which there are over 700,000). So to pretend that all those donations come from Service members is a big stretch.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 12:38PM

Ron Paul is already ruined.

He polls at 5%.

It's now Cain, Romney or Gingrich, who has finally busted through to double-digits.

The Paul-Bots can stop robo-posting the same, tired old polls from questionable sources claiming that "only Ron Paul can beat Obama."

Paul is done. Stick a fork in him, and cry into your anti-Semitic hanky.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 12:49PM

Dr.Reich Is Scared Of The Tea Party & Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr. Ron Paul.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:43PM

5%

Not scared. Laughing my ass off at you buffoonery.

You're the entertainment on this board.

RON PAUL = 5%

5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:29PM

"A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:10PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Jack in Wi.| 10.13.11 @ 1:11PM

Ron Paul is in third place in yesterdays Reuters poll. He is behind Romney at 23% Cain at 19% Ron Paul at 13% and Perry at 10%. Cain is a farce. Perry hasn't got a lot of gas left in his tank. Romney and Paul do the best against obama. Paul does the best by far among independents and Democrats. He also has money, a huge financial base of supporters, vast numbers of committed volunteers and the right program for America. It is Ron Paul or more of the same. War, bailouts for the rich, and depression are the only programs that Romney, Perry and Cain are offering.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 1:22PM

Good Man, Jack.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:42PM

5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:41PM

RON PAUL = 5%

5%

That's the number that comes AFTER 4, but BEFORE 6.

Paul hasn't hit double-digits YET.

5%, jack from Nuremberg.

5%.

Soak it in. Say it over and over.

5%

Ron Paul has 5%.

5%

Ron Paul will NEVER be President.

5%.

5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:30PM

"A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:11PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:31PM

Love it.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:21PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

scotchieguy| 10.13.11 @ 12:14PM

Excellent take. The only other negative on Cain is his lack of political experience. This is not a problem for me personally. I think it is actually an attribute, but you know he is going to get clobbered on it. Take your average independent voter we need in order to defeat Obama. He will likely say Cain is superior to Obama, but will foolishly vote for Obama since he has more political experience even though he is a total fraud. Cain also needs to quit saying, "nine nine nine." This really got old at the debate. I wanted to tell him every time he says it, his credibility goes down. This was every bit as annoying as McCain using "my friends." It just seems bush league.

martin j smith| 10.13.11 @ 7:48AM

One more point: The debate process stinks. Whoever is responsible for thinking up the use of MSM in my view are either stupid or think they are too clever because the MSM tries to manipulate our choices. So far I am heartened to see that voters are not buying their and the
Republican Establishment BS.

Sean| 10.13.11 @ 9:06AM

Oh the Republican voters are definitely buying it based on the polls.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 7:59AM

Mr. Neumayr well said. As the most credible conservative on social, economic, Constitutional and national defense issues (this includes the border) with a serious record of budget and tax cuts Perry has to take the gloves off and come out swinging against Romney and the moderate agenda that could doom our country post-Obama to the current status quo. Rick’s early success was based on his frank and straightforward honesty on issues like the pseudo-science of manmade global warming; the failure of FDR’s Ponzi scheme, gently pointing out that evolution has some gaps in its manmade theory and Ben Bernanke’s FED (surely as bad as Greenspan). One fears harping by established “conservative” journals (The National Review, The Weekly Standard, even TAS, etc.) may have dampened his ardor, caused him to “pull his horns in” and rein in his personality to become a “credible” candidate to DC and Northeastern eyes. Look where that has gotten him. Screw’em, they’re enamored with style over substance, as illustrated by the failure of these “conservative” muckrakers to actually dig seriously into the Romney or Cain (since some of his supporters think he’s running for Romney’s V.P.) proposals, their scant records of public service or business histories where downsizing spelled success. Do they think that team Obama and the Democrats are going to be so kind?

He should be hammering Romney's refusal to sign the SBA pro-life and NOM pro-marriage pledges this year as well as assailing his past socially liberal positions on gun control, the homosexual agenda, manmade global warming, boasting to Standard & Poor’s as governor he raised taxes in an economic downturn, etc... While verbal ascent, as Romney and his good friend Herman Cain have made, may mean support for conservative social issues it’s probably a harbinger of “pragmatism” if elected. One of the criticisms of Mitch Daniels when he was considering a run was that he was willing to go soft on social issues. Clearly, he’d have been as firm as Romney or Cain with a real record as a social conservative.

Why isn’t he on Huckabee, Hannity, Greta and O’Reilly? If Romney, who Huckabee disdained in 20008, can go on his show why not Perry? (Is Huck sucking up to Romney now?) When Michelle Bachmann was on top Iowans noted how Perry’s retail politics worked compared to what some described as her imperious style. He needs to get that into more homes and the debates are not his venue, but sitting down with Sean, maybe Rush or granting an interview with a reputable journalist (not a moron like Lawrence O’Donnell) can’t hurt. Keep kissing babies in Iowa and talking to vets in South Carolina, but get on TV and radio too.

Obviously, Perry isn’t a great debater, but this reticent Rick Perry is not the Rick Perry who came back from being a 26 point underdog to shellac Kay Bailey Hutchison and a 9/11 truther in his last gubernatorial election. Michelle Bachmann who is sliding into oblivion may have given herself more time by being herself again in the last debate – it could payoff. Newt is winning the substantive portions of every debate – why? He ignores Romney and Cain who have style, but little else and focuses on Obama and real issues (if it weren’t for his baggage this primary season might have been settled long ago with Newt as our candidate).

In 1980 the “smart people” were telling us Reagan was too old and after falling flat in Iowa he was on the ropes and going down fast. Look what happened to the smart people. (Hint: in the general election Reagan agreed to only one debate that a plurality of people thought he lost.) Just four years ago John McCain was “toast” before New Hampshire, but a good ground game and tenacity made those reading his primary political obituary look foolish (in the general election he did that for himself). Being a Texas Tim Pawlenty just doesn’t work – nice guys, too often, finish last and suave or affable bastards finish first. The British SAS have a great motto Rick needs to take to heart “He Who Dares Wins.”

Mriordon| 10.13.11 @ 10:15AM

Excellent post- couldn't have said it better myself, so I won't. I might add that all of the Republicans are fools for agreeing to take part in these phony debates with liberal moderators who hate their guts and have every intention of making all of them look bad.

Jack in Wi.| 10.13.11 @ 1:02PM

I am all for it. Let Perry expose Romney and Cain has already imploded. Let these 3 stooges fight it out. Moe, Larry, or Curley would make a better president then these 3.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:02PM

Ron Paul = 5%.

Cain is in the lead, with 29%.

Imploded? hardly.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:04PM

Jack in Nuremberg,

Hate to break it to you, but if/when Perry, Santorum, Bachman, etc, drop-out of the race, who do you think will be the beneficiary of their support?

Here's a hint: NOT Ron Paul, or Mitt Romney.

Cain (if he's still around) will get most of Perry's support, or vice-versa. In terms of Ron paul's meager 5%, that will basically doom his candidacy.

Paul = toast.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:36PM

Tea Party Patriots Will Vote For Our Tea Party Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:11PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:22PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Drunken Sailor| 10.13.11 @ 2:19PM

Guess that would make Ron Paul Shemp?

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:11PM

He DOES kind of look like Shemp!!

And...He equals 5%!

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:31PM

Shemp: The underdog of the Three Stooges.

emo| 10.14.11 @ 10:00PM

""He should be hammering Romney's refusal to sign the SBA pro-life and NOM pro-marriage ""

I am pretty certain most candidates didnt sign pledges.

Timothy L. Pennell| 10.13.11 @ 8:06AM

I know this is about Perry, but, Perry is FINISHED. Let's talk about Romney.
What do we know about Romney? What does he do? How did he get where he is, today?
We know that his Father was George Romney, Governor of Michigan, wasn't he? I assume that Mitt, did not grow up Poor. I wonder if he ever had to struggle. I assume, that he went to a Major College, and joined all the right Clubs.
I'm not sure what he did, before he ran the Winter Olympics, lo, those many years ago. I'm pretty sure that, all he's done since, has been to Run for Election. "He's so good at these debates." He should be. He's been in about 100 of them.
He ran in Michigan, and he lost. Then he ran for Governor of Mass. He won. (Did he lose, once, in Mass?) He became the governor of Massachusetts. The most LIBERAL State in the Union. But, he's a Conservative.
He then, set out, to come up with a Government Health Care Plan. The world got RomneyCare.
"And HAMAS' Deliverer, so loved RomneyCare, that he had Romney, and his Health Care Handymen, summoned to the White House, to instruct His Highness: Barack the 1st, in how HE, too, could control the people, by Controlling their Health Care."
But, he's a Conservative.
Meanwhile, back in Taxachusetts? RomneyCare is an Unmitigated DISASTER, and Barry's buddy - Deval - is giving out Free Cars. God Bless America.
That pretty much sums up, ole Mitt. Let's throw in the Global Warming idiocy, as well.
He is, without question, so far removed from Regular People, that I don't think he has any idea what a 9 to 5 Guy or Gal goes through. I don't think that he's EVER gotten his hands dirty. I don't think that he's EVER had to scrimp and save, to get through the week, let alone, the Month. And, I don't Trust ANYONE, who's sole goal in life, is obtaining POWER, over people's lives. And this "It's his turn", is a LOSER, and it's getting old. It was Bob Dole's turn. It was John McCain's turn. We all know how those TURNED out, don't we?
And, last, but, not least, there is NO WAY that he is going to GO AFTER this 1st Black president. No way. No how.
Obama is ripe, for the picking. He, and his minions, are gonna come after the Republican with every Lie and Dirt, they can dig up. Our guy has to give it right back, in SPADES. His past, his Mentors, his Radical Friends, his PLO Friends, his Destruction of this Country, and its Economy. And, especially, his involvement in FAST and FURIOUS. I don't care about Solyndra. That's just money. Fast and Furious was an attempt to get American Guns, in to the hands of the Mexican Drug Cartels, for the SOLE PURPOSE, of killing as many people as possible. And, for what? So he - OBAMA - could use these Dead Bodies as a PROP, to trick the American People in to more GUN CONTROL.
We need someone with a PAIR.
And, the Rich Kid, just ain't got it.
Go HERMAN CAIN.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 10:14AM

Timothy,
I have to say I think you are wrong about Governor Perry.

I actually like his rope-a-dope being the "pinata".

IF>>>IF>>>>>>> he comes out swinging, then you just might see something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbWz1RYGE3Q

scotchieguy| 10.13.11 @ 12:29PM

You forgot one key thing--I don't think Romney can defeat Obama. It will be 2008 all over again. We need a conservative. Right now, Cain seems like the best candidate to knock off Obama. Perry is toast. Bachmann is sinking. Gingrich won't win. I like Santorum but he doesn't have a chance. So, Cain it is. He better brush up on his foreign policy.

Jim| 10.13.11 @ 1:07PM

Timmy
You are a loon and a racist

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 3:55PM

Again, Timothy, we are on the same page. Just adding a ditto to your post.

POST American| 10.13.11 @ 8:15AM

--------------PERRY DREAM SPEECH----------------

"I know I've been an opportunist, a
shill, a front for Al Gore, a Bilderberg attendee,
a champion of sanctuary cities and Globalization
of the infra-structure.

I know I sided with the unconstitutional,
hideously UN-American TSA against the
good people of Texas.

I know I pushed shots of the deadly gardasil
vaccine.

I know I've said nothing --NOTHING--
about our 4 decades of CFR Bush
--Rockefeller--Clinton---Obama
RED China sellout and TREASON OP.

I KNOW that I've never critically
spotlighted the deadly sinsister, wholly ILLEGAL.
privately owned. foreiegn 'Federal Reserve' OR
the looming world EUGENICS and police state
tyranny emanating from the PRIVATE usury
and eugenics front U.N.-------------------------

I know, and therefore am doing the only decent
thing left to one who knew --and did NOTHING

----------------I AM WITHDRAWING--------------"

Mike Hawk| 10.13.11 @ 8:54AM

Out Howlin' at the moon last night?? Hope you had a good time. Time to take your meds now and go back to your room.

Timothy L. Pennell| 10.13.11 @ 9:46AM

Didn't you already write this, the other day?
C'mon. Make a little effort.

Bernard Webb| 10.13.11 @ 9:18AM

Your meds are in the kitchen, on the bottom shelf of the cupboard by the sink. Take them NOW.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 10:19AM

Post American...PLEASE withdraw. You are wearing out my scroll button.

Tim the Enchanter| 10.13.11 @ 1:35PM

Huh?

W| 10.13.11 @ 8:45AM

Perry should concentrate on attacking Obama and stating his message, whatever it is, in clear English. Attacking Romney or Cain is not the answer. Attack Obama and present your message.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 8:57AM

For all the bloviators who think Perry is finished, Bachmann is toast, Newt is done, etc.. You need a little education in real politics and instead of wishful thinking.

A little something to help educate you from a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll September 6–10, 2007 Mitt Romney 28%, Rudy Giuliani 16%, Fred Thompson 16%, Mike Huckabee 8%, John McCain 7%, Tom Tancredo 3% . . .

The only real take away from today's polls Mitt Romney has lost support from 4 years ago, the winner was in decline and the Herman Cain of that election Rudi Giuliani quit early.

Jack in Wi.| 10.13.11 @ 1:24PM

I don't agree with you much Mike but that is a good post. I think Cain has already imploded. I never saw a dumber candidate then Cain in last tuesdays debate. He is Mr. TARP, Mr. Fed, Mr lie about the Fed audit, Mr. endless war, Mr. affirmattive action.

I would it this way. Romney is Guilianni, Perry is Thompson, Cain is Huckabee, and Ron Paul is McCain.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:05PM

Ron Paul = 5%

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 2:32PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:12PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:22PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Mike Rogers | 10.13.11 @ 9:06AM

One diffence between Perry and Romney in the debates is that Romney has all the figures about Perry and Texas at his command, and isn't afraid to use them, whereas, even if Perry has the information (doubtful), he doesn't use it.
Thanks for being Perry's research service, but I'm not sure he'll take the advice

Bernard Webb| 10.13.11 @ 9:14AM

Perry's chances of getting the nomination are exactly the same as Sarah Palin's.

Sean| 10.13.11 @ 9:17AM

People have figured out that Perry is a fraud.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 10:07AM

Sean,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbWz1RYGE3Q

Sean| 10.13.11 @ 4:50PM

Ken, I look at actions not words. Anyone can talk like a conservative, but then you look at things Perry, Romney, Cain and Newt supported you will see they aren't conservative.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 12:44PM

Is that why he still gets 3X the voters Ron Paul gets?

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 1:11PM

Rick Perry Drops 13 Points in Iowa Caucus Poll
Thursday, October 13, 2011:

Texas Governor Rick Perry’s slide in the polls continues. In a Public Policy Polling poll of likely Iowa caucusgoers, released on Tuesday, Perry finished in fourth place with 9 percent of the votes. In August, Perry finished in first place with 22 percent of the vote. Perry’s 13 point slide from first to fourth is as stunning as pizza magnate Herman Cain’s 23 point rise from fifth to first in the latest PPP poll.

Cain finished in first place with 30 percent of the votes. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney grabbed second place with 22 percent of the votes and Texas Congressman Ron Paul moved up from fourth to third with 10 percent of the votes."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:44PM

Ron Paul = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Bob Grant| 10.13.11 @ 2:14PM

Doh!

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:23PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Bob Grant| 10.13.11 @ 8:08PM

Ron Paul is going nowhere. Clint, get with someone who has a Chinaman's chance to win this thing and pull your lips off Ronnie's Tukas.

You are correct, however, that the Tea Party Rebellion is here.

Bob Grant| 10.13.11 @ 8:08PM

Ron Paul is going nowhere. Clint, get with someone who has a Chinaman's chance to win this thing and pull your lips off Ronnie's Tukas.

You are correct, however, that the Tea Party Rebellion is here.

Nite| 10.13.11 @ 10:06PM

You apparently know nothing about governor Perry. It is interesting the number of people on a web site that love to smear and trash someone without knowing anything about them. Believe me, CNN, and the liberal media would love to choose the Republican candidate that would likely be beaten by Obama. Perry can beat Obama, not the other way around.

Conserdude| 10.13.11 @ 9:40AM

Gov. Perry is not up to the job of running for president for which one must prepare well in advance. He hasn't. Gov. Romney is all that is said and more as a liberal, chameleon Republican. Unfortunately, the GOP is stuck with him which will bring four years of frustration to conservatives, the way George H.W. Bush did. There is nothing transformative about Romney's agenda, either; not on entitlements, taxes or anything else. The best that can be said about him is that he's not a statist, liberal in-over-his-head hatemonger that is Obama.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 3:57PM

That about sums it up.

I sure hate voting for the lesser of two evils...AGAIN!

George S| 10.13.11 @ 9:59AM

Take notice: if Romney prevails because Perry (or the other candidates) are afraid to go after Romney on health care, how will Romney fare against Obama? Now he's boxed in: say nothing and he suffers the fate of his Republican challengers. Or attack it and look like a clueless hypocrite.

That's why Romney cannot be the nominee.

PAUL| 10.13.11 @ 10:23AM

Bob McDonnell

David T| 10.13.11 @ 10:34AM

First it was Bachman, then it was Perry, now it's Cain's turn to be the not-Romney. When Cain inevitably fizzles out, Newt Gingrich will be the last man standing to challenge Mitt for the nomination.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 1:44PM

Better Newt than Mitt or Paul.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:26PM

Dr.Reich Is A RINO-CINO GOP Ruling Elites' Mind Numbed Flunkie Stooge.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Eve Marie| 10.13.11 @ 1:48PM

You left out Trump.
And all you need to do is watch
The Real Newt Gingrich to see why he's a "no".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02HX5v5Thpk

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:14PM

Better Newt OR Trump than Mitt or Ron Paul.

Ron Paul = 5%

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:29PM

Yessiree!

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:24PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Conserdude| 10.13.11 @ 4:07PM

As much as I don't like Romney, Newt would be worse. He's a deeply flawed leader, who failed as Speaker and is of a low moral character. Newt was so insufferable that House Republicans tried to oust him 18 months into his speakership in 1996, and finally did so after the 1998 election. His then-secret philandering with a House committee staffer (now the 3rd Mrs. Gingrich) during the Clinton impeachment proceeds was reckless and risky in the extreme. Newt does not belong near the White House, no matter how good a policy wonk and debater he is.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 10:51AM

Texas Governor Rick Perry; Sarah Palin’s Champion
Sarah is going to have the ‘longest coat-tails’ across the country anybody has ever seen. I think she is going to team up with Jim DeMint and help elect a bunch of conservative Senators. I even predicted such in my novel released last Spring. (“America Alone Said NO” now released at amazon.com .)
When Governor Perry announced this summer, I believe Sarah sighed with relief because the void in the immediate future would be filled. Please recall that at the time Perry announced…Mr. Cain had not gained traction yet. So now…..choose your flavor.
Both men are fine representatives of our essential principles and beliefs.
As most of you know, I lean to Perry.
I have had the opportunity to watch him govern my beloved Texas for TEN YEARS. He knows how to govern ….from the perspective of we the people!
Mr. Perry has gotten some heat for “in-state tuition” for illegals. Ladies and gentlemen, our Texas Legislature voted virtually unanimously to extend that tuition plan. Those Legislators reflected the will of We The People of Texas!
Governor Perry signed the bill……then sent a Lot more Texas Rangers to the border. Texas spent about 400 million dollars last year defending our border at Mr. Perry’s direction. (PS, that is a heck of a lot more than Obama’s federal government has spent.)

Solo| 10.13.11 @ 1:04PM

Well said, Ken!

Perry is the firmest conservative running with the necessary Executive Level experience in governance.
He has a good track record. His state has a good track record and he has the correct instincts.

What he doesn't have right now, it seems, is that "Fire in the Belly". He started out that way but got his nose bloodied and is now sitting quietly in the corner.
He needs to wake up, come out of his shell and throw a few punches. His two targets should be Romney and Obama.

He should compliment, and otherwise refuse to bash, his fellow conservatives on the stage; Bachmann, Paul, Gingrich, Cain and Santorum and clearly express that he would be proud to vote for any one of them.
But......he would not relish the thought of having to vote for "Obama-Light" in place of Obama; ie Romney.

I would explain that Romney did to Mass. what Obama did to the entire country and it is only by degree of offense that the two are separated. And then I would lay out the laundry list of liberal positions Romney has embraced in the recent past and just keep repeating them as often as Cain repeats "9-9-9".

If he does that, Romney's poll numbers are going to drop a bit every time they have a televised debate until he's finally finished off for good.

And Perry's poll numbers will take care of themselves, come what may.

We may not need a "President Perry" sitting in the Oval Office but we damned well better not end up with a President Romney.

Mitt Romney is going to be the exact same type of President that Bush was. He doesn't want to go to Washington to change it. He just wants to be IN CHARGE of it.

Al Adab| 10.13.11 @ 1:40PM

Ken:
You and Solo are on point here. I fear that we are asking the wrong question when we say, "Who can stop Romney"? We need to ask who is the most viable Conservative candidate before us. Clearly that is not Romney who representsw the accomodationist wing of the GOP which has failed us so many times in the past. Why would we nominate someone to the left of McCain?

That said, is the country able to vote for another Texan? Whether they should or not is another matter. Is there in this group a Conservative leader able to connect with the voters and make the case for Liberty over redistribution? Is there one who can articulate the theory and perform the job as well? Let us hope so and let us identify that one quickly without the internecine battles which only help The Left.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:18PM

"necessary Executive Level experience in governance."

Well, good old David Frum and Daniel Larison would agree with you guys that say this.

In a post here by Guardiano, he states the following:

"The obsession with "executive experience" also stems from a misunderstanding of the presidency. The president is as much an administrator and delegator as he is an executive. He appoints a vast array of cabinet officers and officials who will do the actual executive work of government."

http://spectator.org/blog/2011.....tcontainer

scotchieguy| 10.13.11 @ 1:11PM

Tex, I always like your takes. Do you really think Perry is the best we can do to defeat Obama? I cringe to see him try to hold his own against Obama in a debate.

Nite| 10.13.11 @ 9:58PM

Perry does fine one to one and he hates Obama and the feeling is mutual.

Riff Raff| 10.13.11 @ 11:03AM

Perry is toast.

Why are these people bashing each other when they should be bashing the dhimm-bulb in the White House? Perry, frankly, stepped in it big-time when he said, "I don't think you have a heart..." referring to other candidates opposed to in-state tuition for illegal aliens. This was not only wrong to say (which Perry admitted), it was injudicious and embarrassing. Perry effectively ended his campaign with that one remark.

Nite| 10.13.11 @ 10:01PM

Frankly, the instate tuition was passed in 2001 and with a veto proof majority. Perry should not have made the "heartless" comment, but this was a TX issue and had nothing to do with Obama's failure to secure the borders. You may think Perry ended his campaign, but he is just getting started. That bill was passed in 2001.

Nick| 10.13.11 @ 11:12AM

Mr. Neumayr,

Excellent advice. I hope Governor Perry takes it.

Conservative Americans are very forgiving. If he were to say, "Calling people 'heartless' was a stupid thing to do, and it is a mistake I will never make again, I promise you," it would go a long way to getting back into the T.E.A. Party's good graces.

fmm| 10.13.11 @ 11:43AM

Perry's performance since enetering the race makes one wonder why he decided to enter in the first place. His supporters should save their money.

Mike Hawk| 10.13.11 @ 11:51AM

OK folks, why the hell have primaries?? Seems it's is all over before it starts and decided by a gaggle of flakes right here. A bunch of halfassed 'debates' and meaningless straw polls. If this is how the candidate gets chosen we are in deep doo-doo.

Riff Raff| 10.13.11 @ 12:09PM

Uh, look around you. This IS how candidates are chosen, and we ARE in deep doo-doo. Look who is occupying the White House.

Dave| 10.13.11 @ 12:21PM

George "To have any chance of winning, he will have to launch daily strikes on Romney's liberalism, past and present."

What about Perry's liberalism, past and present? Why would you ask a known liberal, Perry, to attack someone on their liberal views when Perry is as big a liberal as anyone. Maybe moreso.

Perry is NOT a conservative. He's not even Republican. He only changed to the Republican party in order to get elected. He's a liberal through and through and his voting record, policies, and agenda all show this. Only another liberal, trying to deceive the republican and/or conservative voters, would try to pass off Perry as a non-liberal.

George, do yourself a favor. Shut up.

Nite| 10.13.11 @ 9:53PM

Dave, you know absolutely nothing about Perry. You are merely listing some of the other candidates talking points. In fact, it sounds like Bachmanns or Pauls. Perry has been my Governor for 10 years, and he is a staunch social, fiscal, and pro-life conservative. He is a defense hawk and a friend of Israel. He switched to the Republican Party in 1989 along with other conservative Democrats in TX. He has NEVER been a liberal. So Dave, you are simply trashing Perry on behalf of some other candidate, but your comments are nothing more than a smear.

Dan| 10.13.11 @ 12:34PM

Perry's ego got the best of him. The only ones who should be in the remaining debates are Romney, Cain and Newt. The rest are either ego driven, like Perry, or are trolling for other political jobs. Supporters, cut off their funds.

Nite| 10.13.11 @ 9:56PM

Perry has been trashed, smeared and attacked by media, Obama, other GOP candidates and people on web sites like this one. Perry just got into the race and the others have been running for sometime. It is so nice that you can tell everyone else what to do with their campaign funds.

Andrew Keirns| 10.13.11 @ 1:16PM

I think each candidate needs to emphasize his/her own record, and Mr. Perry has a pretty good one to run on. Republican primary voters already have mild to strong misgivings about each candidate, and hearing one candidate beat up another one doesn't help the primary voter make a decision. Give me a reason to vote for you, not a reason not to vote for the other candidate.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 4:03PM

A good start would be MORE trashing Obummer and less trashing each other, or at least so obviously. I like the way Gingrich has handled is so far, even though I'm not fond of him as a candidate. He's taken no cheap shots at the other candidates, but plenty at the media and Obummer. Both of those will endear someone to the voter that doesn't like Obummer (which is anyone with two brain cells).

I know Obummer must love it when we start eating our own.

Casey Abell| 10.13.11 @ 1:18PM

Hey, I'd love to see Perry get back into the race, too. But he's never going to get Romney's voters. He really has to take down Cain, who has stolen most of his support. So I think Neumayr's advice is exactly bass ackwards. Perry has to go after Cain.

But who cares, really? It may be too late for Perry to do much of anything. Rasmussen is out with a 1000 likely voter poll by the robots yesterday, after Perry's fourth straight crummy debate performance. Rick's down to fourth and fading fast...

Romney 29
Cain 29
Gingrich 10
Perry 9
Paul 5
Bachmann 4
Santorum 2
Huntsman 2
Other (campaigning hard) 3
Not Sure/Don't Know/Asleep/Drunk 7

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Demos split predictably. It's 43-42 Cain-Romney in a strictly two-way matchup.

I get the feeling this is Cain's turning point, and that national sales tax will weigh him down. He actually led Romney is a couple pre-debate polls. But Santorum, though no factor himself, stung Herm on that flipping tax.

Meanwhile, Perry just looks out of it. Not just out of the debates. Out of the race.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 3:09PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Solo| 10.13.11 @ 3:46PM

Sorry!

Ron Paul= 5%

He finishes just as he did in 2008: 4%

The more he talks and the more voters are exposed to him, the lower his poll numbers get.
There's a reason for that.

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 4:29PM

Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:12PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:27PM

Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 3:56PM

So now Herman Cain *stole* Rick Perry's support?
LOL!

martin j smith| 10.13.11 @ 1:33PM

I want a candidate that is willing to take on Socialists and Obama directly. That person obviously needs to show he is articulate and can also talk with the American people and tell the truth.
This candidate must be capable to dealing with the MSM. That candidate must show that they are distinctly different from Socialism. That means pro-Free market and Pro Democracy.
This candidate must also believe not only in American exceptionalism but the need to have a strong national defense.

Now I have heard material from Rush Limbough
reporting that Romney's aids help Obama create Obama Care and basically saying has some explaining to do. Rush ios also suggesting that the Establishment Republican Party and throwing the Tea Party under their bus.
Rush's information seems quite truthful since he has primary sources. Thus, my view of Romney and any other such candidate is this: He may join that group that includes Ron Paul and John Huntsman--that would be the NO list.

The other candidates are on probation.

Zbigniew Mazurak| 10.13.11 @ 1:41PM

Of course Mitt Romney is a RINO! And yes, there's plenty of evidence that he's a strident liberal masquerading as a moderate. Remember, folks, that he instituted gay marriage in Massachusetts by executive fiat.

Intelligent Design| 10.13.11 @ 1:48PM

So many negative comments about Perry! Wow. In the last election (Nov. 2010) Republicans won about 700 elective offices nationwide, including state positions and control of the U.S. House. Voters virtually screamed that they are disgusted with liberals, both Democrats and fake conservatives. Mr. Romneycare is the godfather of Obamacare. Obama even paid Romney's advisers to help shape Obamacare.

Romney would not rip up Obama's policies; he would perpetuate most of them. Perry knows this, and the voters who threw out 700 Democrats a year ago also know it. Perry is simply waiting for Romney to self-destruct, and waiting to spend millions on TV ads which expose Romney. Perry knows the debate format is stacked against him, since the media knows Obama is toast and Mr. Romneycare is their second choice. But actual voters no longer trust the media. If they did, Republicans would not have won so many seats last year.

Casey Abell| 10.13.11 @ 1:54PM

"Perry is simply waiting for Romney to self-destruct, and waiting to spend millions on TV ads which expose Romney."

Well, we don't have to wait for Perry to self-destruct. He's gone and done it already.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 2:15PM

Sad, but true.

What a disappointment this guy has been.

Drunken Sailor| 10.13.11 @ 2:39PM

Same here. Unless he can pull a rabbit out of his hat or he gets strong endorsements from people like Sara (which I don't see happening) he is going to pull a Fred Thompson. That would make two elections in a row we had a good canidate that just didn't have the drive. Not good.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 3:58PM

It seems to me tat his heart's not in it. Like maybe his wife "made him do it."

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:13PM

His supporters will move to Cain, and then the RNC has a BIG problem...

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:29PM

Poor babies, LOL. But hey, it's about time!

HOWARD GALGANOV | 10.13.11 @ 2:24PM

Has this writer never heard of Herman Cain?

It seems incredible to me how so many pundits are dsimissing the candidate who seems to be the peoples' legitimate choice.

Perry is done. So is Bachmann, so is Santorum, so is Huntsman and so is Paul who never had a chance.

Gingrish will be a Kingmaker, and that King is best known for 9-9-9.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:14PM

Most importantly...

When Perry, Bachman, and Santorum drop out, who will their supporters endorse?

Most likely...Cain.

PattyMor| 10.13.11 @ 3:04PM

Let's look at who is still a viable candidate? Romney, Cain, Gingrich, maybe Bachmann.
Perry is dropping like a rock. Bachmann is fading after she ran around with the Gardasil scare. Look I know the Paulette are fervent, but its a dangerous world and we need a strong person who builds up the military (and restores NASA); and no warmongering for its own sake.

Gingrich is a good debater; as well as is Bachmann. But, Gingrich just has too much personal baggage. And the rap on him as Speaker, is that he wouldn't see issues through, but always looking for the new shiny toy.

So that leaves Cain as the Anti-Romeny candidate that has a chance to defeat Obummer. He's not perfect, but would be a pretty good contrast to Obummer. Cain has a positive, sunny personality.
He smilies easily and debates well. He has accomplished things with his life. He probably would not abolish the Federal Reserve, but we could push him to tie the Dollar to a basket of metals.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 3:11PM

Rick Perry may be a poor debater, but at least he's not stealing his biggest idea from a rival pizza company.

Dominos Pizza $9.99 5-topping Large Pizza (May 2011 ad)

Drunken Sailor| 10.13.11 @ 3:21PM

MT,
That was just a pathetic attempt.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 3:40PM

Are you sure? How much does anyone know about 9.99?

Cain's been boasting it was a well thought out plan put together by a team of economists, but today he's quoted in the WSJ saying, "It's a work in progress." What happened to the vaunted economic team and the well thought out plan?

Cain, the marketing expert, is making it up as he goes. The danger is if he's our nominee and not merely Romney's stalking horse Obama and the Democrats are going to eat him up like a "Meat Lover's Special." Wait till you see the ads.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 3:59PM

It sounds to me like Cain's too conservative for you.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 4:06PM

Arthur Leffler supports Cain's 9-9-9. Leffler is not exactly my idea of a hack.

Paul from SA| 10.13.11 @ 3:16PM

Perry has been disappointing. I don't know if it's national-camera-fright because I know he is better than he's shown. I think he's getting bad advice.

Perry cannot win. He is battling the GOP establishment. They chose Romney earlier in the year and are determined to slant their reporting, the news, their articles, and their advice, to protect Romney and bring down his opponents. Some, like Ann Coutler, flat-out lying about Perry on Fox News, have really stooped to levels I didn't consider they could.

Attacking Romney on a daily basis is bad advice, so stupid, it sounds suicidal.

It's depressing. Romney -- another GOP nominee who doesn't represent me. Once again, and again, and again, I don't have a candidate and stuck with the liberal Republican. Romney has been pre-selected. Bush I, Dole, Bush II (second term), McCain.

The Tea Party will not support Romney and will grow in power and size. Trouble is coming to the GOP.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 3:51PM

Paul:
Four years ago Romney was leading the pack and Guiliani was #2, Fred Thompson was #3 and McCain was dropping like a rock. Don't let the pundits or Romney's or Cain's ringers at National Review, The Weekly Standard, TAS and FOX get you down. Ignore the polls they really are meaningless now at this time. Look how they keep fluctuating. Sarah Palin was right, "Cain is the flavor of the month."

The Perry campaign needs a strong ground game, favorable TV appearances and a strong ad campaign going not only after his competitors, but Obama. He's got $15 million and a sound economic and energy plan will help.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:28PM

Disingenuous once again, Michael.

Sarah Palin said this:

"Palin defended her comments Thursday night, saying that they weren't controversial at all. "What the media tends to do is, kinda gin up controversy, and propel this flavor of the week. I'm not saying that Herman Cain is the flavor of the week. I'm one of his biggest fans, and I would never dismiss him or speak negatively about him."

Sarah Palin defends Herman Cain video:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....88665.html

elmo| 10.13.11 @ 3:16PM

Why is everyone in such a hurry to determine their candidate. Because they've been around the block a number of times, the only candidates known nationally are Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Paul. We all need to get to know the others before a decision can or should be made. Hell, the primaries haven't even started yet.

Solo| 10.13.11 @ 3:54PM

Actually, Elmo....that's a good point!

The Primaries haven't gotten underway and we're already writing people off as though it's over.

What were Obamies numbers at this point in his Primary?

What were Slick Willie's numbers at this point in his Primary?

Just hope that candidates like Perry, Cain, Bachmann and Gingrich can last until the Primaries get to your state. Then choose the one whom you believe in the most....and sleep well that night.

For you PaulBots....just drink some more Kool-Aid and mumble incoherently about The Fed and THE JOOOOOOOOOOOS!

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 4:40PM

Let's Listen To FED Clown Cain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk

In the hours since last night’s GOP Debate wrapped up, however, audio has indeed surfaced of Cain saying an audit was not necessary.

"Some people say that we ought to audit the Fed. Here's what I do know. The Federal Reserve already has so many internal audits it's ridiculous. I don't know why people think we're gonna learn this great amount of information by auditing the Federal Reserve,” Cain said in a speech delivered only months earlier on December 29, 2010. “I think a lot of people are calling for this audit of the Federal Reserve because they don't know enough about it. There's no hidden secrets going on in the Federal Reserve to my knowledge.”

It doesn’t stop there, though. According to the Daily Caller, Cain has previously written that Paul supporters have tried to “destroy” him by bringing up his affiliation with the Fed. Furthermore, he revealed that he has only become irritated by the nagging — as if the economy wasn’t in dire straits.

“How can a person randomly show up at a hundred events and ask the same stupid question to try to nail me on the Federal Reserve?” wrote Cain.

“It’s really becoming annoying more than anything else.”

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 10.13.11 @ 5:15PM

RON PAUL = 5%

http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....al_primary

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:10PM

A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.

In the Reuters article , it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.

Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:39PM

CLOWN you say? CLOWN???
Ah hem.
Mirror, mirror on zee wall...

Clint| 10.13.11 @ 7:33PM

A FED Clown :
http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/.....erstar.jpg

Margie| 10.14.11 @ 3:19AM

Oh, look!
You're in the Dictionary!
You really SHOULD send in your photo.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ron Paul Bot

Margie| 10.14.11 @ 3:23AM

Well, since the link is broken, here it is, from the Urban Dictionary:

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They are easily identifiable by their continuous habit of talking about Ron Paul regardless of what the subject is.
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Lupin: ... 0_o

Bob5439: 0_o Must be a Ron Paul Bot.
Buy ron paul bot mugs & shirts

Ted Keer | 10.13.11 @ 10:26PM

Interesting how all you hear from the Ron Paul supporters is their hatred for thr principled and viable flat-taxer Herman Cain but not a peep about the outright socialist Romney or the big-government religious bigot Santorum. Shows the focus of their so-called libertarian principles.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 3:54PM

Thank you Elmo! I'm a Perry fan, but I wouldn't be shocked if in the end Newt was the nominee. It is too early to decide the race, but the "establishment" and Tea Party want to tell the ordinary Republican voter who their candidate will be. Time will tell.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 4:07PM

Personally, I am for starving the RNC. They have called me on numerous occasions, and I just refuse to give them any money, and clearly state shy. Conservatives need to co-opt the RNC, not vice versa.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 4:08PM

WHY

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:21PM

Haven't given to the RNC for almost a decade. We put our money where are mouths are for real: to the individual candidate's campaigns.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 4:13PM

I don't know if Newt could win the election, but I'm willing to bet a considerable sum of money that he would take Obummer to the woodshed in a debate. Anybody want a piece of that action?

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:36PM

Personally, I would PAY for a front row seat if they were charging for it.

richard mcenroe | 10.13.11 @ 5:07PM

But then he'd goose an usher on the way off the podium. This is Newt, a man of some wit but little character...

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:27PM

As long as he "gooses" Obama.

martin j smith| 10.13.11 @ 3:17PM

From point of view--which means a sample of precisely one person--I still maintain a wait and see attitude. And that means that no one is a sure thing for my vote. here are some things that I look for:

In regards Perry: He needs to show in some format or other that he can show leadership as relates to current issues that would include stuff like "fast and furious" and that so called green energy scandal( is sylendra ? or whatever ) the recent Iran implication in a terrorist plot on US soil, the occupy whatever movement but basically its about confronting Socialism. The debate system stinks so may be Perry can find some other way but he should not take too long.

Romney could be toast if he does not deal with Obama Care and Romney care etc. But we needs more time. and vetting --that means tough questions

Cain will have to show he can act not only as a CEO in a private company but as the CEO of the US --that would be also commander and chief. That means a knowledge of foreign policy and national security.

Newt needs to show he is not a RINO.

Santorum must show he can be a winner--has a history of being a loser.

Bachman needs to come back and find an issue that resonates .

All of the candidates must get out of the limits of the MSM . That will help us to see who these people really are. The debate format is very bad.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 4:11PM

Just for the record, the president is only commander in chief in time of a declared war...do we have one of those?

I get ill every time I hear that expression. Commander in chief...my foot. Obummer could CIC his rear end.

richard mcenroe | 10.13.11 @ 5:08PM

That would have surprised my tac officers back at Benning. The C-in-C is a full-time job.

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 4:17PM

It's very difficult for anyone to make a good presentation in the debate format. I think that's why Cain resonates with the voters. At least he has something that everyone understands and he's clear on it.

I was surprised that more of the other candidates don't beat the Obama/Romney care drum loudly and more frequently. That's a deal breaker with the American people, and shows why even his supporters are rather lukewarm.

Johnny| 10.13.11 @ 3:56PM

The entire premise of this article is ridiculous. To assume that the only choices we have are Perry or Romney is ignorant and indicative of the MSM, what gives here? We will not let the media and pundits select our nominee this time around. Last time it happened with McLame and we see how that went. SO STOP IT!

Alan Brooks| 10.13.11 @ 3:57PM

"Cain will have to show he can act not only as a CEO in a private company but as the CEO of the US --that would be also commander and chief. That means a knowledge of foreign policy and national security."

It will take Ciin years to get up to speed.
Best thing is to re-elect Obama-- who has going on three years of experience.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:01PM

Hmm. How many years did it take George Washington to "get up to speed?"

Abraham Lincoln?

Who else had to do such a thing?

Nancy in NC| 10.13.11 @ 4:09PM

Now that's a great idea. Just reelect the idiot that has taking us down the path to serfdom. Just flipping great.

Drunken Sailor| 10.13.11 @ 4:22PM

"Best thing is to re-elect Obama-- who has going on 5 years of campaigning."

Fixed it for you AB

Alan Brooks| 10.13.11 @ 3:59PM

"It will take Ciin"

Cain.
He's got a long time to go before he knows more about foreign policy than about the International House Of Pancakes.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:01PM

Very, VERY lame.
LOL.

Sam McGowan | 10.13.11 @ 4:57PM

Okay, look. The election is STILL more than a year away, and medial polls mean absolutely nothing, the same for debates. Nobody watches them except the media and political pundits. In 2007 at this point in the campaign Gullani and Thompson were leading the pack and McCain was way back in the rear and everyone was counting him out. Republicans already know that Romney is a political progressive, and they already know that Cain can't win. That leaves Perry, who can. Everything will change when people actually start pulling levers.

richard mcenroe | 10.13.11 @ 5:05PM

Perry can't help himself by attacking Romney; no one outside the BosWash Corridor likes Romney, except for Democrats.

Perry's problem is his own negatives: his ties to the political machines of the last century, his inability to articulate his positions under pressure, and his tone-deaf refusal to listen to what people are telling him. He needs to remember this is a JOB INTERVIEW, and when someone questions one of his past decisions, he is obliged to either a) explain himself so the interviewer gets it, paying attention to their specific objections, or b) consider they might want something different from him in future that he can provide, not simply condemn them for raising the question.

These are all things that seem to be beyond Governor Perry to date.

Steve Thomas| 10.13.11 @ 5:11PM

You are a bigoted, hate filled fool and blinded by your ignorance. SGT

Mrs Vito| 10.13.11 @ 5:12PM

I wouldn't write-off Perry just yet. I am neither blind nor naive to think that in this media image age, it would seem likely that a candidate with poor debating skills would be deemed a poor candidate. This is simply a non-starter. Perry has not survived a successful three-term governorship because of his verbal jousting abilities, and I don't agree with some of his policies. Romney, on the other hand, may be a verbal 'Fred Astaire', but he has to be, because flip-flopping on issues is de riguer for him.
Isn't anyone curious that through all the debates and polls that Romney's percentage hasn't changed that much? Frankly, I feel the need to shower every time I see him on the tube; there's an oiliness about him, while Perry, though sluggish in the latest debates, comes across as committed to convictions.
It will be interesting in the next few months, but frankly, I rather have a Marlborough than an Obama Ultra Light.

Intelligent Design| 10.13.11 @ 5:23PM

Well put. Romney would not champion full repeal of Obamacare, he would want to make a few amendments at best. Ditto for the Dodd-Frank massive intrusion into private enterprise and our lives. Ditto for the convoluted, counter-productive, job killing federal income tax monster. I want a president who will turn Obama's socialist policies upside down, not someone like Romney who will perpetuate them.

elmo| 10.13.11 @ 5:21PM

It seems to me that someone, whether it's the GOP establishment, media, DNC or whoever, is trying very hard to get people to settle on Romney NOW. RNC tried to do this in Florida with Crist. As Nancy indicated about donating to RNC, I just doubled my donations directly to Rubio (as I believe a lot of FL conservatives did) and he came from a lot farther back than anyone currently running in Republican primary. I say we take our time, visit with primary candidates when they come to our area and make our independent decision. While I will vote for anyone who wins the Republican primary, Romney will give us all a lot of Scott Brown moments and headaches.

Alan Brooks| 10.13.11 @ 6:01PM

"Hmm. How many years did it take George Washington to 'get up to speed?'
Abraham Lincoln?"

Four years apiece.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:26PM

Well see, there you have it.
No previous experience was necessary.
Just the "right stuff".

Michael| 10.13.11 @ 6:50PM

Why should Perry "remind the Tea Party about Romney's past Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay-Rights" positions??? Is that what the Tea Party is about? Abortion and Gays? I thought they were about Small Government, Limited Government, Getting Government Off Our Backs And Out Of Our Lives? I guess not. I guess they really are a "social issues" group. In other words, they are the Religious Right/Christian Coalition calling themselves the "Tea Party".

Paul in Colorado| 10.13.11 @ 7:04PM

Without a strong, articulate leader in this cycle who has a realistic chance of being elected president and actually implementing their agenda, the Tea Party needs to focus on nominating an electable Republican who shares at least most of their values. Far better to have Mr. Romney in the White House with strong Tea Party caucuses in both houses of a Republican-controlled Congress than a second term for Mr. Obama and gridlock through 2016. As to his liberalism, much of it sounds more like libertarianism to me, and he shouldn't back away from it. This election will be won in the center, and I thought the Tea Party was about liberty, both personal and economic, not imposing our values on our neighbors. Much of Mr. Perry's appeal is his vigorous defense of state's rights, and his sincerity was clear in his comments about Medicaid. As a former governor Mr. Romney can also make the case that the states are far better equipped to sort out social questions than the federal government, and that while the folks in Texas may arrive at different decisions than their kinsmen in Massachusetts, both should rush to defend the right of the other to decide differently. If Mr. Romney came out for sending social issues to the states, starting with pot, abortion and gay-rights, we would lose a few votes on the right but he would also close the deal with the center.

George S| 10.13.11 @ 8:06PM

The election will not be won in the center. Please. Look at NY-9 where an unapologetic conservative won big in a 3-1 (very) liberal Democrat district. Look at November 2010 when close to a thousand Republicans won in federal, state, county and local elections. All had the same theme: stop Obama.

What you are advocating is the philosophy of the Republican establishment. The one and the same who pushed John McCain and the Civility Tour as the only sure fire way to capture independents. It is the same thinking of Charlie Crist and Chris Christie (funny how New Jersey did not enter the law suits against ObamaCare. Too expensive said the governor. Bullshit. Christie doesn't see the big deal in a federal takeover of health care. Plus it saves NJ a few bucks in Medicare costs just in time for his reelection.)

People are truly scared of Obama, Reid and Pelosi. They want them as far away from power as possible. Any Republican who does not see the danger in Obama's policies will only help to cement those policies once elected. We do not care about electability -- we want a reversal of Obama's stain on our great land. Anyone of those Republicans can beat Obama. Which is why the establishment Republicans are so anxious to convince you and others we need a repeat of the McCain blueprint. They are truly afraid that a Cain, Perry or Bachmann will actually change the Washington culture. Romney will not.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.13.11 @ 7:11PM

Mr. Perry's campaign manager is Rob Johnson.

As a Houstonion, I called Mr. Johnson this morning and chewed his butt.

Let Rick be Rick!
See youtube speeches above.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 7:22PM

The difference between Rick Perry and Herman Cain?

Herman Cain WANTS it.

Margie| 10.13.11 @ 7:23PM

Rick Perry is "allowed" to be himself. He's holding back.

the DA| 10.13.11 @ 8:00PM

No amount of candidate-bashing is going to make Rick Perry a better candidate for President. I'm not going to like him any better just because he learns how to bash Romney. One of the reasons that Herman Cain has emerged as a front-runner is that he's running on his own bona fides. That is the true test of a candidate; to sell yourself.

Bazza McKenzie| 10.13.11 @ 8:30PM

When it comes to a head on confrontation with Obama, Romney is one of the weakest possibilities. Doesn't matter what the polls say now, it is what they will say when the dirty Obama attack machine is unleashed.

For all the reasons listed above, Romney will get little enthusiasm on the right and he removes a number of major points for attacking Obama, not least being Obamacare. No matter how much political junkies may parse the alleged differences from Romneycare, it will be so much hair-splitting for the general public. And that will not only let Obama off the hook, it will do the same for Democrats in Congress.

Romney claims business experience so he can create jobs. Obama will, with some justice, turn that around and present Romney as a Wall Street fat cat who made a lot of money for himself and his mates by shipping jobs off to China, not creating them here. And Romney looks the part.

Aside from a third party candidate, Romney is Obama's best chance at staying in the White House.

jgo| 10.13.11 @ 8:48PM

Perry's day is gone. His chance passed when he tried to push the NAFTA super-highway against the Texas legislature's wishes, when he repeatedly advocated weak borders and lax enforcement against illegal invaders and visa over-stayers.

Romney's day passed with Romneycare.

Let's focus on the candidates who are viable, who did not step into such idiotic anti-conservative land-mines.

Bob Grant| 10.13.11 @ 9:15PM

When you say viable do you include electable? The field then becomes pretty thin.

Nite| 10.13.11 @ 10:15PM

You may think Perry is done, but he is just getting started. He has only been in a campaign for 4 or 5 weeks. If anyone thinks these so called debates moderated by liberals shows the best candidate, then I have a bridge I want to sell you. Perry has a history of coming from behind. He is not a good debater, but he has been elected 3 times as Governor and he will be competitive. He has been my governor for 10 years and I will tell you that he is a staunch conservative. Those calling him a liberal were simply smearing and trashing. I voted for him 4 times and will vote for him again in the Primary. He can certainly beat Obama and his teleprompter.

bigfoot9p6| 10.13.11 @ 9:54PM

A major difference between McCain and Romney: McCain was actually a good man. Romney is nothing more than a pretense-filled toy poodle.

Ted Keer | 10.13.11 @ 10:30PM

Well, said. Except that Romney with his insincere smiles is more like one of those lizards from the mini-series V than a poodle.

Rod Hug| 10.13.11 @ 10:54PM

Its clear that lots of people have strong negative feelings about Romney. I think these views spring from a traderous intention he has, for self-agrandizement, to undermine the conservative attempt to reverse all the damage Obama has done to America.

Ted Keer | 10.13.11 @ 10:18PM

You are 100% spot on Mr. Neumayr, and if Perry is not going to get his act together he needs to stop being a spoiler, withdraw now, and support the real alternative to Obama: Herman Cain.

Rod Hug| 10.13.11 @ 10:42PM

If you’re for socialized medicine in America, vote for Romney. Romney continues to defend the MA law, Romneycare. He has never said, during the CNN, Fox or yesterdays debate, that he would repeal Obamacare, only that he would issue waivers to the states. He says it’s a state’s rights issue, even though the democratic congress and Obama passed it as a federal law and must be uprooted at the federal level. A few days ago, on the Sean Hannity show, Romney did not disagree with Sean when Hannity said Obamacare must be repealed, but Romney, never that I know of, offered that view unprompted. Other candidates, and especially Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain, have made it clear they would repeal Obamacare.

If Romney would repeal Obamacare, why does he insist he will issue waivers, which he said he would do during the CNN and Fox debates? Waivers mean that Obamacare will be the law of the land for states that do not request a waiver. And if Obamacare is left intact for these states, it becomes the model for all states (just as Romneycare provided a model for Obamacare) when and if future legislatures decide to go with the socialist program.

My state, CA, will not request a waiver. Will somebody ask Romney if he would give every American citizen a waiver?

Marc Levin is of the opinion that waivers are unconstitutional, given that the executive branch cannot usurp a law passed by congress via executive order. Also, Dems are certain to challenge waivers in court, holding up rollout of Obamacare virtually indefinitely.

Apparently Romney thinks Obamacare is a good law just as he continues to insist that Romenycare is a good law. There is little difference between the two laws. Does Romney realize that common sense reason revels there is a glaring inconsistency between the opinion that the MA law is a good one and the opinion that Obamacare must be repealed?

That Romney lacks a fundamental appreciation for personal freedom is evident by his answer to Obamacare, that he would issue waivers, ie, pass that bit of tyranny, to the states. He fails to see that whether it is the federal government that withholds freedom to choose your doctor and what medical treatment you can get, or a state that withholds those freedoms, either way, liberty has been denied.

POST American| 10.13.11 @ 11:19PM

--------------------BOTTOM LINE----------------------

"---and sided with the hideously UN-American
TSA against the good people of TEXAS."

As we're SURELY bound for
HUAC meets NUREMBERG, it's
--ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW about PERRY--

Dollface| 10.14.11 @ 12:13AM

Why not have a real debate and make them talk for 5-10 minutes on a subject and then have 2-3 minutes for rebuttle? That would force them to think and we could see if there is any substance there. What we get now is warmed over, memorized, talking points.

right on| 10.14.11 @ 3:47AM

Totally agree Michael - I can't understand how Romney, who never raised taxes as the Governor of the bluest of blue states, who has consistently railed and fought larger government is so disliked by conservatives.

He is clearly a fiscal conservative so why is he so disliked? He's pretty clear the best bet for a GOP win in 2012 and he subscribes to the majority of views being pushed by conservatives. Has he always? No - but then neither did Ronald Reagan.

I like Herman Cain, he seems like a good guy but he won't win - in fact he'll get wiped out.

To me the best answer is a Romney win, with Bob McDonnell as VP.

John| 10.14.11 @ 4:55AM

If Romney gets the nomination, I'll donate and vote for Obama. Romney is so close to Obama in many ways, and in some ways he's worse (he has passed anti-gun laws as governor).

I've never voted for a Democrat. Please don't make me start now.

Joseph Dooley | 10.14.11 @ 7:21AM

The only reason Romney will win the Republican presidential primaries is because he's been standing there the longest. He hasn't stopped running since Huckabee and McCain beat him 4 years ago. His honey-tongued so-called "arguments" are polished to a fine glint.

Solo| 10.14.11 @ 12:34PM

Romney would be an abject disaster for this country!

We will have lost all momentum in our quest to return this country to sanity should Romney win. We would actually be better off, long term, if Obama won instead of Romney.

Romney doesn't want to "save" America. He doesn't want to "change" Washington.

He just wants to be in charge of it!

We would actually be better off with Obama as President and a Republican controlled Congress than we would with Romney as President with a Republican controlled Congress.

Less mischief that way.

Beth| 10.14.11 @ 2:40PM

I have never seen Gov. Perry as he has been in the debates. He is normally, forceful, commanding, and always fired up..I believe there is something we do not know that has him pensive, and unable to communicate what his stance is. He has done a wonderful job for Texas. I have supported him for two full terms and now his third.
This is not the Rick Perry we know. He takes the bull by the horns, and he does what has to be done. A leader. I studied him on stage at the last debate and concluded, he is looking at all these candidates, and saying to himself, "what in the world has happened to the Republican Party?..
He knows the establishment wants Romney. They are afraid to pick anyone else. Yes, I said "PICK"...Because that is what they are doing. The Republican establishment says we can beat Obama with a RINO. I don't want to beat Obama in 2012 with a RINO. Why? We might as well stay on the same road as Obama. Get it over with quicker with Obama, and save us the long pain of watching our country crumble in front of our eyes.
I like Gov. Perry, and my take on his debate performance is there is something bothering this man; and I know it. He is a fine man, who the Republican candidates have demonized, and criticized him when they have done many things more liberal than he. . He loves his state, he loves his country, and he is seeing it go down to its knees....and I believe the Republican Party is helping the process. Bickering, squabbling over people with no governing background, no experience....and here sits this man, with all the good things he has done for Texas being criticized for doing some good things. The HPV issue, the illegals getting in-state tuition...I hardly think this makes this man a criminal...like he is being labeled.
I do not want Mitt Romney, he is a constant campaigner...He should know what to do and say by now...I am tired of listening to him...same same same....old thing over and over...Gov. Perry just does his job, and does it right. He would not have been a three-term Texas Governor if he had not.
Something is not right..I wish we could know what it is. I think I do. Chris Christie had the nerve to say....religion doesn't matter ....Oh yes sir it does. Look where we are now in this country.
God is not going to bless this country. That fact is already obvious. Look who is in our White House, look at the condition of our country. Look at the corruptness of our government..
People might want to take a good long look at Gov. Rick Perry before they banish him for being a Christian, pro-American, pro-capitalist, pro-states rights candidate. He is the best one..Maybe not the slickest, maybe not the best at debating, maybe not a member of the Rev. Wright church of the undead...but a good good man. Yet we only see what the media, and the establishment, and Socialists want us to see. Romney. Cain with no govering experience...
No, I refuse to do it. I can make my own decisions.. I live in Texas..and Rick Perry is our only hope. He may know it, as we should...and this is our last chance to right things in our government....and we are blind to it.

Margie| 10.14.11 @ 9:19PM

Herman Cain is a genuine conservative and Christian as well.
And Rick Perry is not "our only hope."
Jesus Christ is our only hope. And He uses more than just one person or candidate. Rick Perry isn't Jesus, and if he doesn't have it in him, no fire in his belly, he isn't going to win it.

John| 10.15.11 @ 3:51PM

Ya know what would really help Perry?

If he had some idea of what he wanted to DO as President. Some kind of plan, anything, would be a good idea.

Seriously, knowing he is approaching a do-or-die stage in his rapidly unwinding campaign, he walks into a debate about the economy without even some semblance of a plan to talk about?

This guy is not ready for prime time.

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