WASHINGTON — As an observer on the national scene lo these many
years, I have noted time and again that in a discussion of politics
the first person to inject the topic of race into the discussion is
often the racist. Though that person almost always affects to be
without bigotry, in fact he or she is invariably a racist and hopes
to emerge from the fracas as the moral colossus. Those who have
followed the careers of the Rev. Jesse Jackson and his Holiness Al
Sharpton will get my drift. These frauds would have to be debating
George Wallace to be the lesser racists, and frankly I think the
contests would be too close to call.
Last week we observed the phenomenon once again. This time
it was in a discussion of politics on MSNBC led by Lawrence
O’Donnell, who interviewed Herman Cain, the surprising
“nonpolitician” who is fast becoming a powerful contender for the
Republican presidential nomination. O’Donnell is a white Liberal.
Cain is a black conservative. O’Donnell was clearly the racist as
he led the discussion with a series of questions that most
civilized people would find bizarre. O’Donnell was also a bully and
a creep. The way his eyes rarely moved while he was directing a
clearly offensive line of questioning to Cain suggests that he
probably was not aware that his behavior was offensive. Sociopaths
can be TV interviewers too.
Since Cain came in second in a straw poll in Florida, his
star has been in the ascendency. Now he is polling ahead of Mitt
Romney in South Carolina. He has pulled even in Virginia, and is on
the march almost everywhere. I say another appearance with the
racist O’Donnell and he will be preparing to move into the White
House.
O’Donnell’s line in interviewing Cain is typical of how
Liberals treat conservative blacks, and white America does not like
it. I doubt black America does either. O’Donnell might actually be
a unifier, uniting all America once and for all against those who
try to divide us along the lines of race. His lines of attack were
breathtaking in their hypocrisy. First he attacked Cain for dodging
the draft when Cain was working for the Navy in field ballistics
and was asked by the Navy to continue his work as a civilian. He
did. O’Donnell for his part never wore a uniform and never served
in any branch of the armed forces. He got a deferment. Then he
accused Cain of not supporting the civil rights movement by obeying
his father and finishing high school and college. O’Donnell never
aided the civil rights movement and did not perform particularly
well in college. Still he accused Cain of standing on the sidelines
during the civil rights movement. O’Donnell was in the
bleachers.
In his interview he accused Cain of “insulting the
intelligence of all blacks” for using the word “brainwash” to refer
to voting automatically Liberal. With the utmost calm Cain replied,
“I did not insult the intelligence of all black Americans. I
insulted the attitude of those who will not consider an alternate
idea.” And Cain went on to say that black people “did not consider
my statements insulting because a lot of them are thinking for
themselves.” Then Cain did what a clever politician does. He turned
around and focused not on himself defensively but on the president
aggressively.
“Now, if they want to talk about insulting, they need to
look at the president when he talks to the Congressional Black
Caucus and insulted black people,” said Cain. “In my opinion, by
telling them to take off their slippers and put on their marching
boots, when he has had nothing but failed policies.” The other
night in debate he did the same, defending his “9-9-9” policy
program confidently. He does this with a cheerful demeanor that no
one else in the race can muster. Cain is perfectly comfortable in
debate and on the campaign trail.
His secret is that he is a superior gent. He has the best
analytical mind of anyone in the race and the best disposition.
That is a pretty good definition of character. O’Donnell is the
opposite.
POST American| 10.13.11 @ 6:30AM
CAIN is an utterly 'on board' quisling,
and former director of the ILLEGAL,
Globalism and EUGENICS fostering,
private, FOREIGN owned, USURY
mongering, psychopathic --
--------------'FEDERAL' RESERVE--------------------
------------------------------------Case Closed-----------
Lawrence Boccardi| 10.13.11 @ 7:09AM
What the hell am I looking at? Some kind of code, in the writing technique?
Teaghan| 10.13.11 @ 8:19AM
Lawrence, you made me laugh! He/she is on here daily with this cryptic apocolyptic stuff.
I don't give a damn if Cain was "with the Federal Reserve". He, I feel is our answer to the communist in the White House.
Cain in 2012~
Sean| 10.13.11 @ 9:38AM
Nice support someone totally clueless on the economy. Cain is an empty suit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
moey| 10.13.11 @ 11:22AM
Better get some improved research glasses. You know not from where you speak!
Dsf| 10.13.11 @ 12:41PM
what? Someone willing to admit a mistake and willing to learn from it? To me this adds to Cain's credibility, not a detractor. Cain didn't blame Bush, the tea party, the buck stopped with him...refreshing
CESC| 10.13.11 @ 1:00PM
Cain an empty suit???? Surely you are delusional. The marxist-in-chief is the emptiest suit that has ever occupied the office. Cain is a successful businessman and highly intelligent individual. Go back to school fool.
Sean| 10.13.11 @ 4:53PM
Why elect someone who gets everything wrong when we can go for someone who gets it right?
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 5:43PM
We already have someone who always gets it wrong, but he swears and apparently you swear he always gets it right. So how come every time there a financial number is reported to have worsened, it is called "unexpected?"
Because each and every time our lil'
President gets it wrong, wrong, WRONG.
DTOM
Trish| 10.13.11 @ 11:35PM
LOL If you really believed Mr. Cain to be an "empty suit," you wouldn't have bothered with actually posting it. Your having taken the trouble to do so is just another example of the sweaty palmed fear he's instilling in the Left. I love it. Cain/Gingrich 2012!!
Dan Mathewson| 10.13.11 @ 2:17PM
Did you read his second rant on Christopher Orlet's e-book article? Computers as surveillance devices.
Timothy L. Pennell| 10.13.11 @ 8:20AM
It's easier, if you have the Twilight Zone music, playing in the background.
Trust me.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:40PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU
LOL!!
Peter McGrath| 10.13.11 @ 10:04AM
Twit.
Alan Brooks| 10.13.11 @ 3:20PM
This is one of Rich Lowry's more readable pieces:
"It’s not important not to be a politician; it’s important to be a really good one.
There is no better testament to the marketing prowess of Herman Cain than that he gets applause when he tells audiences he’s not a politician — in the course of seeking their votes for the highest political office in the land.
Mitt Romney plays a version of the same card, arguing that “career politicians got us into this mess, and they simply don’t know how to get us out.”
If Cain and Romney think so poorly of politics as a vocation, they could easily save themselves from any further taint. They could drop their arduous schedules, their fundraising pleas, their very public roles that open them up to ridicule and attack, and return to comfortable lives that would be welcomed by the vast majority of Americans who don’t thirst after political distinction.
Of course, neither will fold up shop until it becomes impossible to go on, or he succeeds. They don’t have the courage of what they want us to believe are their anti-politician convictions.
Cain’s status as a non-officeholder is entirely an accident of the poor judgment of Republican primary voters in his state of Georgia. He ran for the nomination to the U.S. Senate in 2004. He lost. Had he won, he might well be in his seventh year and second term in the Senate, where politicians go to live out their days blissfully free of any serious responsibilities. Even politicians find the Senate stifling and unproductive, so it’s an odd place for Herman Cain — man of action and scourge of the politician — to have wanted to land.
Romney avoided becoming a career politician by a similar route. He ran for the U.S. Senate in Massachusetts in 1994 and lost, ran for governor of the state in 2002 and served one term before setting his sights on higher office, and ran for the Republican nomination for president in 2008 and lost. He’s been running for president ever since. All in all, he’s made a pretty good political career out of not being a career politician.
The business experience of a Cain or a Romney is enriching, no doubt. They are more impressive for it. But what will be more relevant if Romney becomes president, his time as management consultant or his time as governor of Massachusetts? Romney was a flawed candidate in 2008 and — by most accounts — is a better candidate now. That has everything to do with having acquired more political experience by passing through the fire of running for president once before.
Distaste with the political establishment shouldn’t become distaste for the act of officeholding. Consider the figures the Tea Party admires most. The tea-party standard-bearer Jim DeMint is a former three-term congressman and is now in his second term as a senator from South Carolina. The rising star Marco Rubio spent about ten years in the Florida legislature and served as speaker of the Florida house before winning election to the U.S. Senate in 2010. If business experience were all important, the successful former Goldman Sachs executive Jon Corzine would have been a blessing to New Jersey as governor, and his politico successor — former freeholder, candidate for the legislature, and U.S. attorney Chris Christie — a flat failure.
Amid the slings of outrageous fortune, the politician learns how to inspire and persuade, how to avoid unnecessary minefields and pick his fights, when to accommodate his opponents and when to confront them, how to build a coalition and keep it together. A businessman might have similar challenges, but they aren’t played out in the public arena in the context of a balky, democratic political system that rarely moves on the basis of one man’s orders.
And the businessman’s work doesn’t depend on a philosophical commitment to a set of ideas. The best politicians, like the non-businessman Ronald Reagan, translate their principles into reality in a way that rises to statesmanship. It’s not important not to be a politician; it’s important to be a really good one."
AhiaGuy| 10.13.11 @ 4:32PM
Sublimating your racism this time, are you Mr. Brooks?
Since I kind of doubt you are really trying to help the Republican party win in 2012, knowing that you are opposed to Herman Cain makes him all the more attractive.
Alan Brooks | 10.13.11 @ 4:57PM
[Haha: "cue the horror music". Funny!]
Depends on what you mean by 'racism'; if you mean being opposed to PC, then I am racist. What about the following link? is the author in question a 'racist'? or is he being forthright?:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....63327.html
Alan Brooks | 10.13.11 @ 5:15PM
Cain himself makes race-references: in response to whether or not he is flavor-of-the-month, he says he is "black walnut Haagen Daz ice cream."
And, naturally, he is in fact being groomed as the black GOP answer to Obama. So race is being brought up on both sides of the aisle.
AhiaGuy| 10.13.11 @ 6:18PM
You're trying to pretend you don't know that I'm referring to that nasty, vicious, lowbrow, classless Amos & Andy routine you posted in a recent thread following a column about Herman Cain.
Since Libs like you are basically condescendingly paternalistic racists towards minorities, you think anything you do to denigrate a minority that strays off the Liberal plantation is fair game.
You lost all respect I might have had for you with that racially insulting screed. You proved nothing is beneath you in your attempts to attack Herman Cain and I intend to point it out as often as possible in the future.
Ron Edge| 10.14.11 @ 5:14AM
Forthright.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 4:41PM
Cue the Horror Movie music..
Alan Brooks | 10.13.11 @ 4:58PM
You may be a pig, but you do not lack a sense of humor.
Alan Brooks| 10.13.11 @ 5:19PM
"Since I kind of doubt you are really trying to help the Republican party win in 2012, knowing that you are opposed to Herman Cain makes him all the more attractive."
Ahia,
of course I'm not trying to help the GOP for next year or any other year. Last time I voted GOP was in 1986-- and that will not happen again.
You shot your last bolt with Reagan and now YOU are toast.
Jack von Bauer| 10.14.11 @ 6:14AM
POST American| 10.13.11 @ 6:30AM
You mean NUT Case Closed
Jack in Wi.| 10.13.11 @ 7:00AM
Cain is done. Stick a fork in him He hasn't got much money or organization. The last debate finished him. His 999 plan was ridiculed by everyone, as it should be. He outright lied about supporting a Fed audit to Ron Paul. The Paul people within minutes put up video of Herman saying the exact opposite. Rick Santorum exposed his support for TARP. Then in his biggest stupidity he called Alan [ bubbles ] Greenspan his ideal Fed Chairman. He revealed that the author of his 999 plan was some old Fed hack named Lowery. Herman was a barrel of laughs. If the Republicans name another affirmative action incompetent as their nominee, they will deserve the ash heap of history.
In the latest Reuters poll relased yesterday Romney had 23%, Cain had 19%, Paul had 13% and the flavor of last month Perry had 10%. In my opinion it is down to Romney and Paul. Both do well against Obama. Romney has money, the military industrial complex, the Israeli lobby, The Mormons, and the countryclub elites. Ron Paul has adequate money, be far the most numerous and fervent supporters, and the ideas and programs the people want. 60% of voters by poll want out of these wars now. They Want the Fed audited by margins of 70% or more. They want an end to all foreign aid by margins of over 70%. They also think that the Federal government is out of control. Ron Paul is the best debater I have ever seen in watching politics for over 60 years. He or Romney will be the nominnee. It is Romney and more of the same or Ron Paul and a new hope for the future.
scythe| 10.13.11 @ 7:14AM
Ron Paul will NEVER be elected. Many admire him and wish he could be but a country that elected Obama will have a hard time setting aside all the stupid reasons for picking a president in favor of serious ones. And that's just for starters. Imagine Ron Paul, his dourness on display, his political wonkiness, his cerebral arguments on stage with the Messiah. For the average boob, it would like seeing the ancient distant relative hold forth against the cool kid on the block. Ron Paul has a big fan club, but that doesn't win elections. If his brain were transplanted into a telegenic charismatic candidate who had what was once known as the "common touch", he would have a far better chance. In the end he has a narrow appeal mostly for those who have a brain. And that doesn't describe the majority of the voting public. Need proof? Herman Cain, whom you just wrote off is doing far better. Don't dismiss him yet. He is going to take off.
Jack in Wi.| 10.13.11 @ 7:27AM
Ron Paul is the best and most intelligent debater I have ever seen in over 60 years of following politics. He would destroy Obama who is nothing but an inarticulate boob away from his telepromter. There is a reason that he wins all those post debate polls. He is the the best debater. The rest of these people are puddy in the hands of pollsters and their handlers.
Mike Hawk| 10.13.11 @ 9:00AM
You are spending to much time pulling your puddy.
Oldefarte| 10.13.11 @ 9:33AM
Oh, he that is so BLIND that he cannot SEE...!!!!!!!
A.M. Mallett| 10.13.11 @ 2:02PM
If you have been following politics for 60 years, then I can begin to understand your dementia.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:41PM
Good one, heh.
barbara| 10.13.11 @ 2:31PM
The Ron Paul fans are certainly organized. They are bussed in and sometimes paid to attend debates and straw pols.
Because Cain was the Chm of the Kansas City Fed, Paul supporters write him off and purposely distort the facts with disparaging soundbites that are simply not true. He supported parts of TARP conceptually, but not in the way it was carried out. Seeing the mess that was made - including unbelievable 'green' crony capitalism - he would never go that route. And heaven knows, with what has been spent, he would never burden the country with any more stimuli.
Besides, why would we want a grumpy old man in the WH when we have a Happy Warrior? Who, by the way, would ensure this country's protection from those who would do us evil.
Loadmaster| 10.13.11 @ 7:29AM
Please get back on you med's. The voters will decide who is our nominee not the Paul supporters or the Cain supporters. Check you polls bud.
Back to the article. Lawrence is the very reason all liberals need to be defeated at the ballot box. I really hope they never gain any political power, again. They are to be seen and not heard.
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 10:13AM
Do Your Homework.
" Ron Paul Follows Straw Poll Win with 3rd Place Finish in NH
On Monday, Paul followed up his Values Voter Summit straw poll win with a third place finish in a Harvard University Institute of Politics and New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College poll. Paul was one of only three candidates to pull in more than 10 percent of the votes in the poll.
Paul grabbed third place with 13 percent of the votes. Cain came in second with 20 percent of the votes and Romney took first with 38 percent of the votes. Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Gary Johnson and Rick Santorum finished with less than 6 percent of the votes. The poll was conducted between October 2 and 6 with 648 telephone participants. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Mike Hawk| 10.13.11 @ 4:41PM
Values Voter Poll. 600 Paulbots showed up on the morning of the poll, registered, voted and then left. Typical of their MO.
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 8:16PM
Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday.
Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
maximumrandb| 10.13.11 @ 11:14AM
Hey, Load:
O'Donnell is indeed an execrable individual...I hesitate to use the word "man." He's nasty, and effeminate in that sanctimonius sort of way. A repellant person.
Regards,
Pilot
ElPuma25| 10.13.11 @ 11:12AM
Keep dreaming, latest NBC/Wall St. Journal poll: Cain 27%, Romney 22%, Perry 16%, Paul 11%
Latest PPP: Cain 30%, Romney 22%, Perry 14%, Gingrich 15%, Paul & Bachman 5%.
It looks to me that the one that is "done, stick a fork in him" is your idol Ron Paul.
Actually, I kind of like Ron Paul. He is a tru blue libertarian and that is fine with me, but there a few reasons why it would be really difficult for him to become POTUS.
First, he is from the House of Representatives. Congressmen don't get elected president. Of the 44 men who have become President, only one, James Garfield (1881), came from the House.
Second, His foreign policy views are anathema to most republicans.
Third, he can't get more that 15% of the Republican vote. Just take a look at all his national polls in the last 2 months and see that he never gets over 15%.
So do us all a favor and stop trolling for Paul. First, you attacked Perry. Now that he is not the leader, you are after Cain. It is so transparent tha you are not convincing anybody, you're just anoying us.
Grzmlyk| 10.13.11 @ 4:20PM
Actually, I find it hard to discern between the Paul whack jobs and left-wing whack jobs.
Both groups are filled with hate, bile, insults and appear to crave, more than anything, destruction and vengeance.
I think that, if Paul were elected, and got a first-hand look at the frothing, insensate mad dogs who comprise his base (as evidenced by the rabid Paul-ite zombies who post on this site), even he would be appalled. These do not appear to be emotionally stable people.
Like many conservatives who post here, I like some of what Paul has to say very much. But his foreign policy vision is fatally flawed, because he has to deal with the world as it is, not as libertarians wish it were; as Hillary proved vis a vis Russia, there's no such things as a "reset" button to push that will let us all start fresh.
But I don't even think his followers care about how he would, or even whether he could, govern. They're guided by rage alone, intoxicated by an ugly, tribal triumphalism and too preoccupied with spewing scorched-earth invective and licking their chops in anticipation of settling scores to offer anything remotely valuable.
I suspect they fantasize en masse about summarily executing anyone who has ever accepted the Fed as a reality (and no, I'm NOT a fan of the Fed).
Folks, no matter how purple-faced you get with your vitriol, no matter how much you want to rub the faces of those who don't buy your religion into the dirt, your idol will never be president.
N-E-V-E-R.
That is reality. One way or another, reality will impose itself on you just as it will on liberals who believe that the perpetual motion machine of government spending can crank out good times and moral absolution ad infinitum.
I'm down for the Tea Party rebellion. I'm not down for mob rage, even if I agree with much of what the claim they stand for.
And remember this: Never fall in love with a politician: They will disappoint you every time.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:45PM
Excellence, Gryz!!
Grzmlyk| 10.13.11 @ 4:47PM
Thanks, Margie!
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 8:25PM
You Just Trashed Your Credibility, Clown.
Le Cracquere| 10.13.11 @ 8:09PM
/flick Zippo lighter
/hold high
/bow head
ElPuma25| 10.14.11 @ 1:29PM
Grzmlyk, well said.
moey| 10.13.11 @ 11:27AM
I'm not sure what polls you are reading but yesterday Cain was 27% and Romney 23% in at least two polls. You need better research too. Cain is not done and he does have an organization - a good one!
Ron Paul is clueless - he would never get the nomination and even if by some act of everyone else dropping dead and he did get it - he would never beat Obama in a million years. He is so out of touch with the mainstream America, he'd never make it.
Mr. Cain made it 'crystal' clear that the FED should be audited. He also agrees that the government is out of control. Ron Paul is not even close to a good debater - he shuffled papers and stumbled even more than Perry. He is not presidential material in any way. Nice guy, but does not make the cut.
Bruce| 10.13.11 @ 12:31PM
I wouldn't put "The Mormon" vote as you call it on Romney's side quite yet. There are many of us who don't agree with his policies.
Steve A| 10.13.11 @ 12:59PM
Ron Paul is working to secure the endorsements of Ross Perot, T Boone Pickens & Nolan Ryan. This could take him over the top.
In the most recent AP poll he got 46% of the vote when paired against a bowling ball. 3% undecided margin of error +/- 3%
Drunken Sailor| 10.13.11 @ 3:05PM
"Ron Paul is working to secure the endorsements of Ross Perot, T Boone Pickens & Nolan Ryan. This could take him over the top."
Oh yea, they are definitely the movers and shakers the conservative base listens to! A has been kook, a millonaire that will support any cause that makes him richer (remember the push for wind farms?) and a Major league pitcher (not sure what he knows about politics or conservatism).
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 3:33PM
Steve's Punkin' Ya.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 4:34PM
Give DS a break, he's a little shakey today. It's those danged pink elephants he keeps seeing...
DTOM
Ric Savacool| 10.14.11 @ 11:09PM
The "support" of Ross Perot got Clinton elected. Twice.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 3:55PM
LMAO!
idalily| 10.13.11 @ 3:02PM
Cain is done, Jack? Seriously, where do you get this crap? He's #1 in the latest polls. Ron Paul is...where? Oh, yeah, that's right. NOWHERE. It's Paul that has the fork in him and you can't even see it.
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 3:31PM
A new national poll puts Ron Paul in third place just shortly behind Herman Cain in the race for President in 2012.
In the Reuters article linked to above, it was admitted that Romney, though leading the pack of Republican rivals, is certainly not a “strong” front-runner considering the less than enormous gap existing between candidates.
Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Occam's Tool| 10.13.11 @ 4:59PM
Damn those evil JOOOOOOOS, Jack.
Hey, do you happen to know when my next turn in the JewCave in Barbados is, controlling the world money supply? I keep losing my schedule, and I was sure that you, with your knowledge of every last movement of all the world's evil JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS, would know when I was supposed to be there.
Paul is a worthless pile of poo who will be relegated to the trashheap of history like John Anderson by February. We Tea Partiers expel flatus in your general direction, Jackbooted one.
Al Adab| 10.13.11 @ 7:19PM
Oy Vey!
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 8:31PM
Ddr. Ron Paul's Top Tier Now.
Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday.
Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
chuck| 10.13.11 @ 9:40PM
Thanks for laugh OT, I really needed a good one!
michigander_sandusky| 10.13.11 @ 7:30AM
Ron Paul may have a few good ideas, but I've got more of a chance being elected POTUS than he does.
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 10:09AM
Do Your Homework.
" Harris Poll: Ron Paul, Mitt Romney Would Top President Obama.
Released on Tuesday, September 27, the latest Harris Poll surveyed 2,462 adults and was conducted between September 12 and 19. According to the poll, if Texas Congressman Ron Paul wins the Republican presidential nomination he would beat Obama by 51 percent to 49 percent in the general election.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
moey| 10.13.11 @ 11:27AM
I agree.
Rob Schapiro| 10.13.11 @ 7:46AM
Comparing O'Donnell to Cain is silly. Cain is a successful self made man who has provided jobs and hope for thousands of people. He may or may not be elected as president. O'Donnell is biting, bigoted flea, of no use to anyone beside himself. He will never be elected to anything.
To true believers in socialism like O'Donnell, racism only runs in one direction. From white to black/ brown/yellow/red. It is never racism when any other group attacks whites. That is justice for past and present crimes.
What O'Donnell fails to realize is that even though he sees himself as a leftist without a racist bone in his body, he is totally obsessed with race.
When most people look at Cain, they see a successful businessman with strong traditional American values. O'Donnell only sees a black man.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 3:58PM
He's a poster boy for white guilt. I bet he drives a volvo.
crookedwren| 10.13.11 @ 8:03AM
Good article. You're right about that attitude of Cain's. He is not pandering for a vote. He is campaigning on a platform for economic reform. And we need that desperately.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:49PM
Amen to that!
Erling| 10.13.11 @ 8:03AM
Herman Cain's got my vote and contribution (last night).
By the way, Cain won the Florida straw poll, not second place as Mr. Tyrrell wrote above.
Mike Rogers | 10.13.11 @ 9:21AM
Not only that, but he won a very rare thing- that was an un-buyable straw poll, due to it's structure.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 3:59PM
Correction: "Dominated" the Florida straw poll with 37%..
Celestine| 10.13.11 @ 8:04AM
A few more interviews like that of O'Donnell and Cain will be a sure bet for the Republican nominee. Americans are by and large a fair people who will not only reject O'Donnell type questioning, but will support a person subjected to that kind of interview.
moey| 10.13.11 @ 11:28AM
I sure hope so as I would love to see a Cain v Obama debate. What on earth would the MSM do - they couldn't bring out the 'race' card that they play so often.
irish19| 10.13.11 @ 12:28PM
Ditto that. They'd need a squeegee and sponge to pick up what's left of zero after that one.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 4:00PM
No, you're wrong. They will still play the race card. They'll portray Herman as an unauthentic black man who isn't "down with the struggle." O'Donnell is the first example of how it will be played. Doesn't matter. Herman will still whip Obama like the Daddy he never knew should have in Kenya.
Bob White | 10.13.11 @ 8:10AM
Cain came in first in the Florida Straw Poll, winning 37% -- nearly as much as the 2nd and 3rd place winners (Romney,Perry) combined. I support Gary Johnson, however, I admire Cain and hope he does well.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 8:54AM
Bob,
Did you see the article on Gary in Outside Magazine? They are obviously, but quietly liberal. But they were pretty positive. But then, they would consider the candidate's invitation, delivered naked, to a female reporter to join him in the hot tub albeit after a pretty strenuous mountain bike ride to be pretty cool. By the way, the candidate was naked, don't know about the invitation.
Another interesting thing in that issue was their listing of the top 25 influences on the global environment. They did mention the Koch brothers in a mildly sneering, not quite snarky, fashion as contributing to the counter arguments of the AGW debate.
It's also kind of entertaining to watch them climb down from the AGW flagpole while trying to pretend they are not.
I don't know why they send the magazine to me, it just started showing up about a year ago-when it stops showing up, I won't go looking for it...
Just thought you might have missed that one.
DTOM
PS Remember the old marketing saw that 'there is no such thing is bad press?' It's not true.
Paging ex-Congressman Weiner, paging ex-Congressman Weiner...
DH
Mike Rogers | 10.13.11 @ 9:26AM
I think Gary Johnson gets a bad rap for daring to talk about drug legalization. How is that worse than repealing prohibition, and ending the related gang warfare?
Regardless of whether Gary has a chance of winning (he doesn't), he would make a superb veep for any fiscal conservative: unlike Huntsman, he not only held the line on taxes, but also on spending, better than any other governor. This is the man who says credibly that he can balance the federal budget in the first full year.
Consider Cain / Johnson.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 9:42AM
That's probably why the Outside crew went for him...
DTOM
PS I'm not a big fan of drug legalization - it simply destroys most people's interests outside of their drug of choice, leaving little for family, home, and carbon-spewing hearth.
DTOM
carnot| 10.13.11 @ 1:38PM
at the same time the "community" is trying to stop smoking...even in one's own home?
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 4:01PM
Who is Gary Johnson?
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 4:40PM
1%'er former governor from Arizona(?)
Just another pretty "face in the crowd" on stage to dilute Romney opposition...
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PS. Remember the movie? Face In The Crowd. Andy Griffith was a creepy, machiavellian, HICK, political hack who did eventually get caught out...DH
Clinton| 10.13.11 @ 8:36AM
If I had any doubts the last debate settled them. Herman Cain is Mitt Romney's poodle. His promise to go after Romney before the debate led to a mild spat between the two old friends, but nothing like the job they both did on Governor Perry based on a smear job in the Washington Post. Michelle, Newt & Rick better watch out if their numbers start to rise Mitt he'll unleash his attack poodle Hermie to get them.
Hermie's no organization, no information on his 9-9-9 joke & the adoring looks they give each other make sense now.
The liberals at POLITICO and The Hill know about the love affair, but conservative media isn't talking. Romney in a New Hampshire town hall gushing with a wink & a nod told them they could vote for his BFF. “We each have our own experiences, he’s a great guy. Vote for either one of us and you’ll be happy."
POLITICO’s Reid Epstein reports Romney called Cain a “terrific guy” and said voters should “give him a good look.” What politician does that with a competitor? Something stinks and it's Hermitt Cain.
DaveS| 10.13.11 @ 8:49AM
Romney let Margaret Marshall walk all over him. Talk about poodles.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 8:59AM
Governor Romney's stylist could do poodles' hair on the side...they do have hair, not fur...don't they? Both of them.
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FTR-I'm thinking Herman's barber gives him a #2 haircut. That's what I get.
What's a number 2? The comb they put on the clippers is measured in 1/8's of an inch, so you do the math...
Pecos Pete| 10.13.11 @ 8:49AM
Clinton: We'd have more respect for your comments if you left out the cute stuff, like "Hermitt Cain" and "Hermie" ... just makes you look stupid.
Otherwise, what's Romney going to call Cain if not a "terrific guy" ... how about Romney says, "Cain is stupid and a terrible person." Is that what a politician should say about their competitor?
Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 1:55PM
Pecos:
Clinton's point about the Romney/Cain relationship is valid, but I agree with you on the way he shares this potentially deceptive alliance.
This may explain why Cain seems to take two-sides on some conservative issues. Why he joined Romney refusing to sign the SBA pro-life and NOM pro-marriage pledge; then his telling Blitzer he supported the 2d Amendment only to answer that he supported gun control (considering Romney has a history of supporting gun control). Then only he and Romney used the Washington Post smear to use it to denigrate Romney (not the actions of a good Republican or conservative).
One wonders if Cain is Romney's stalking horse to give him cover on conservative social issues? If conservative Herman Cain won't sign the pledges or seems sympathetic to gun control how can we hold it against Cain's friend moderate Mitt Romney? If Cain and Romney continue to play nice then there may be something to the idea that they've been working together from the beginning.
ENOUGH ROPE| 10.13.11 @ 8:56AM
Comments such as those by Clinton make me wonder about the motivations and mentality of the people who make them. Would there be any peace in this world if there were many more people like Clinton?
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 9:07AM
ER,
No need to wonder, really. Assertions consisting of broad judgements without any supporting facts have no weight in logical argument. If the assertor actually had supporting facts, he would use some of them to support his argument. Unless he believes himself to possess such obviously superior credibility that including facts would be redundant. Clinton's broad unsupported assertions show that he does have a very high opinion of himself, an opinion that you, ER, and I do not share with him.
See, no need to wonder-Clinton is a dope.
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Redstateboy| 10.13.11 @ 8:44AM
say what you want.. I like and will support Herman Cain.. at least HE HAS an Economic Plan which is easy to grasp and makes sense. As for those who've been yammering that the 9% Nat'l sales tax could be raised again and again.. Cain specifically stated that in order to raise it, it would require a 75 vote in the Senate. Now besides the Senate voting down Hussein's earlier budget proposal - how often does the Senate ever gather 75 votes for anything? Besides that, you'd have Senators standing for re-election voting to increase the tax?! I don't think so.
moey| 10.13.11 @ 11:38AM
I agree - Go Herman!!
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 4:03PM
Not only that, what all these IDIOTS are forgetting is that.. guess what? there is nothing stopping them from raising the taxes they have currently! In fact, they have been the last 80 years! at least 9-9-9 is visible and easy to grasp, therefore the citizens will easily know when someone is playing with their wallet.
DaveS| 10.13.11 @ 8:47AM
Cain should seek O'Donnell out for more on-air time, as RET says. But RET's first paragraph is the most important, for it establishes the context for all this 'you're not black' nonsense. Cain should just say he's a dyed-in-the wool AMERICAN.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 9:15AM
I got the sense watching that interview that many times in Mr. Cain's life he has been confronted by people with the same attitude and tone exhibited by L. O'Donnell (No "Mr." for you, O'Donnell.)
In that interview after every question Mr. Cain took a two second pause before answering. He may have been composing his answer in that moment, but it had the effect of letting the listener really hear the breadth and depth of O'Donnell's repeated insults.
I for one was absolutely impressed by his demeanor and carriage in that interview. Imagine Herman Cain facing down Kruschev! Imagine him facing down lil' President Barry! For all that Barry has put us through in the past three years, watching Mr. Cain debate Barry, using him as a mop, dishrag, and toilet brush would be positively refreshing, cleansing, and ultimately uplifting.
I'm gettin' out my old McCain/Palin signs and puttin' the big red circle bar over the "Mc."
Mr. Cain IS truly conservative, and nobody's poodle...
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blackwatch| 10.13.11 @ 12:18PM
for that matter let's go all the way back to the BP Oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
remember how President Obama did not know what to do about it and totally botched it for more than a month? He turned down international assistance and blocked several attempts to clean the mess up early. Remember who's butt he wanted to kick and how his administration wanted to keep their boots on BP's neck?
Ok, now imagine President Cain is in office and the accident occurs. President Cain would not turn an industrial work accident into an opportunity to punish an industry and punish the citizens of the gulf states because they did not vote for him.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 4:05PM
Obama doesn't care about shrimp and dolphins.. Bush took a week to get to New orleans, Obama took a month to get to the gulf.. its obvious Obama wants dolphins to die..
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 4:48PM
Phil,
I never saw any footage of dead dolphins and shrimp. Did you? Was it real or was it photo-shopped?
I was in Pensacola recently - I saw a lot of dolphins. One took a fish that a guy was reeling in. The smart money on the dock told the bereft angler, whose line was still paying out as the dolphin ran of with their lunch, to "relax, you'll get your lure back." Which he did a minute later with the caught fish's head still on the hook.
Obama does NOT want dolphins to die, he wants our freedom and our rights to die.
Who cares about dolphins? Can you eat them? Are they hiring? Just leave 'em alone, willya?
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Occam's Tool| 10.13.11 @ 5:02PM
Dan,
That was sarcasm from Phil, ya know.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 5:52PM
Phew!
We really do need a sarcasm font!
Hey AS!!! Get us a sarcasm font, willya?
And include "Statist" in your spellcheck dictionary.
Thank you,
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Timothy L. Pennell| 10.13.11 @ 8:49AM
Look. This is simple. Ya know how everyone's always saying that, "You can't just run AGAINST someone. You have to be FOR something."?
Ladies and Gentlemen. Allow me to introduce the Exception to the Rule. Barack Hussein Obama.
If there was ever, a Clay Pigeon, just begging to be taken out? It's His Majesty, the guy with the "Blacks Only" Justice Department.
Tell me something he's done right. ANYTHING!
Now, tell me what he's done wrong.
Simple, right? Of course it is, IF you're willing to do, what needs to be done.
Our Nominee needs to be FEARLESS. Our Nominee must be prepared to GO AFTER Der Fuhrer, with Both Barrels. The Country needs to be REMINDED of all the Golf Outings, and Parties at the White House, while the people in the Gulf, watched their livelihoods disappear, underneath a sheen of Oil. They need to be REMINDED of all the Vacations. The Jaunts to Ireland, and to England, to drink Beer and $1000 Wine, in a Toast to Shared Sacrifice.
They need to be REMINDED of the illegal Drilling Moratoriums, and the Jobs they destroyed. REMINDED of the attacks against the Coal Industry, and the Natural Gas Industry, and the Canadian Pipeline Deal, and the Hundreds of Thousands of Jobs, that have been ABORTED.
They need to be REMINDED of his associations with Frank Marshall Davis and Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan and Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn and Khalid Rashidi and the Black Panthers.
They need to be INFORMED of his complicity in the Deaths of Hundreds, if not Thousands, of Mexicans, killed by the Weapons that HE bought, and HE had taken over the Border and given to the Dug Cartels, so that HE could use their murders, to push for more Gun Control.
Only Herman Cain, can do all that. None of the others will DARE to do these things. They're too afraid of the "R" Word. And, if they're afraid of THAT? What else are they afraid of?
I'm just saying.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 9:22AM
They are also afraid, very afraid of the lamestream media's bad opinion. Which is, and always has been in fact, fatal to "conservative leanings."
TLP, I'm with you. Lock, stock, barrel, powder, flint, trigger and all!
Go, Mr. Cain, go! Let's raise some Cain!
Don't Tread On Me!!
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 4:06PM
HERE I AM!! ROCK YOU LIKE A HERMAN CAIN!!
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:56PM
You guys already KNOW where I'm at:
Country Class Women for Herman Cain 2012!
chuck| 10.13.11 @ 9:46PM
HONKIES FOR HERMAN!
CRACKERS FOR CAIN!
Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 8:52AM
Polls and pundits are really spewing oxen fecal matter predicting Romney or Cain has this nomination won already.
A blast from the past a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll September 6–10, 2007 Mitt Romney 28%, Rudy Giuliani 16%, Fred Thompson 16%, Mike Huckabee 8%, John McCain 7%, Tom Tancredo 3% . . .
Makes the dopes at National Review, The Weekly Standard, Commentary, Human Events, TAS, Newsmax, etc. look pretty stupid with all their grand predictions. The one thing I notice Romney's share of the vote has dropped from 4 years ago and the winner was in decline.
This should give hope to Perry, Bachmann, Gingrich and Santorum. Romney and Cain should be very, very scared.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 9:36AM
MT;
Your list of publications illustrates so effectively that National Review editor's law that all organizations drift left, unless they are actively right-minded.
It's easy to see why - the left is statist. Their fundamental principle is this "We got ours, so none for you, no chance, no opportunity, we have to have ours so we have to keep you and everybody else down." It is the driving force of those who do not understand that wealth is unlike matter, it can be created and it can be destroyed.
I wish I could think of the antonym for statist. Forget "progressive" it's got the worst reputation in town. Anybody?
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Redstateboy| 10.13.11 @ 9:04AM
and another thing about Herman Cain.. He would destroy Der Messiah in a Debate. Cain would make the Community Organizer look so stupid - Hussein might pick up sympathy votes.
Redstateboy| 10.13.11 @ 9:11AM
Last night O'Reilly and Krauthammer both were basically jumping on the Romney bandwagon! I was so pissed I emailed O'Reilly. O'Reilly and Krauthammer think they're King Makers. I wrote BO that Romney believes in Man Made Global Warming for Christ Sake! Belief in MMGW is the root cause of so much going wrong today - it's killing our nation economically.
Mike Rogers | 10.13.11 @ 9:33AM
You've noticed!
Aside from his excellent book "kids are Americans, too", which is a gear tutorial on rights, responsibilities and the constitution, Bill O'Reilly is a statist. Think back over his programs and recall how many times he wanted to federalize some crime or other, and trample a state judge for being too lenient.
Krauthammer's part of the Ruling Class, too. Do not expect real tea party enthusiasm from them.
Mike Rogers | 10.13.11 @ 9:34AM
Argh, spellcheckers!
"which is a great tutorial"
Steve A| 10.13.11 @ 11:07AM
Redstate, I saw same from O'Reilly & all he basically said was, "Charles, you know & everybody knows that Cain has no shot to beat Obama in a GE." As if it was a given. What he did not say was WHY he believes this to be true. THAT is the question. Does Bill O'Ego think white Republicans are too racist to vote for Cain & will stay home in the GE? What is his reason & why will he not explain it?
Al Adab| 10.13.11 @ 7:24PM
Conservatives are repeating the same mistake we made in 1968 when we chose to back Nixon, as electable, over Reagan. In 1976 we repeated the error even though the convention wanted Reagan it went with Ford because the Conservatives were too timid to push.
In 1960 The Man said, "Lets grow up Conservatives. If we want to take this party back...Lets get to work."
Anthony| 10.13.11 @ 9:20AM
O'Donnell, like the bucktooth distinguished professor of Princeton University's Black Studies program, Cornell West, are classic examples of what the left have become, morally and intellectually bankrupt.
O'Donnell, the snide, snickering hypocrite, like Cornell West, can't conceive of a black man that doesn't buy into the D party plantation mentality, which was Cain's sharp retort to Professor West's rant.
So O'Donnell peppers Cain with loaded questions that this POS would never have asked of the "first black president" and draft dodger, who was mentored by one of the Senate's biggest segregationists.
Nor would O'Donnell have gotten off of his knees to ask similar questions of the cocaine addled Obozo, as he drifted through Oxidental only to find himself at Columbia, with neary a protest to his credit. What, no ROTC for Obozo either?Maybe Obozo was too busy being captain of the Columbia golf team!!!
As for Professor West and Princeton University, which charges parents over $60,000 per year to have their child taught by morons such as West, Singer, and Krugman, it seems to me that Mr. Cain's pigmentation, compared to that of the Muslim Marxist's, makes Obozo seem more like Lillian Gish, so who has the real black creds?? Yet Princeton appears to be rather proud of its prized catch, whom they stole from another distinguished Ivy League institution. Talk about institutional rot.
O'Donnell, West, and Princeton suffer from the mental disease known as liberalism, actually in O'Donnell's case, he's a proud socialist!!!. America needs a good colonic.
Mike Rogers | 10.13.11 @ 9:37AM
Ah, yes, Uncle Sam's plantation. See all the work (and books) by Star Parker, who has labored to liberate her people from the D plantation. Another great "ABC" as Mr Cain would say.
Stefan Stackhouse| 10.13.11 @ 9:24AM
I looked it up, and Herman Cain's draft lottery number (1969 lottery) was 163 (DOB 12/13/45), while O'Donnell's (1970 lottery) was 72 (DOB 11/7/51). I was subject to that same 1970 lottery, there were no more student deferrments by then so all the guys in my cohort were all sweating it. If I had pulled a number as low as O'Donnell's, I would have made a bee line for the USAF and USN recruiting offices for a serious discussion of my options. One does wonder how O'Donnell managed to dodge the draft without any military service.
(Yes, I know, some of you will scold me for not volunteering. By that point, it would have been volunteering for a retreat, and that is always a tough sell.)
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 9:38AM
Maybe he was at Oxford protesting the war with Bill Clinton...
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Oldefarte| 10.13.11 @ 9:40AM
The main difference between O'Donnell [including his fellow liberal ilk] and Cain concerns the male element of B*LLS [ie courage]. The O'Donnells of MSNBC etc are disgusting, putrid, asinine and mostly STUPID. They do not deserve to be allowed to pontificate their filth/garbage in front of a TV, but sadly are given that right [it's similar to allowing rabid pit bulls to attack small children, when in fact they sould be uthinized/impounded]. The true sadness is that their MSM monopoly of news outlets effectively brainwashes the general reading public into accepting/believing their propagandized filth/untruth!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Tomlinson| 10.13.11 @ 9:49AM
Dan Hirsch:
Hate the term "statist" it just doesn't have any zing. I prefer the term fascist, because it fits the Democrats to a tee and their fellow-travelers (the worst of communism, socialism and crony capitalism).
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 5:24PM
MT;
Yeah but,
fascist governments are defined as dictatorial and autocratic, and based on hyper-nationalism. The crowd we're looking at are decidedly not lovers of America - they hate it, think it's evil, and it want it to apologize for all the stuff they think we took. That last bit is because they have no concept of wealth creation - they think all things come from other people and since we have more than anybody else, we must have taken it from them. They also think food comes from grocery stores and money comes from banks.
Statism is an attitude- it applies to people, businesses, organizations, countries. Statists like how things are and refuse to let anybody else have a chance at success.
For example: say you are running the busiest bar in town, and another one tries to open across the street from you. So you get your best customer, the mayor, to deny their liquor license application, you are being a statist. I got mine, none for you.
Or Warren Buffett has made a ton of money, but if he makes sure they tax your income, you'll have a harder time earning enough to buy the stuff that Warren's got his eye on. See, WB's a statist, too. He certainly is not a fascist, just sort of a prosperity hog.
Here's an example of the opposite of a statist. A lawyer moves to a new town and discovers he has no business because there are no other lawyers in town. So, he gets one of his law school buddies to move into town, too. Then the townies will start suing each other and the two lawyers will do just fine, thank you. Ever wonder why lawyers advertise so much?
So, MT, I am not really talking about Fascists, I am talking about statists. And I think that a lot of Democrats would shrink away from honest-to-God, jack-booted, drag 'em into the street, Kristalnacht fascism. Unless of course you snuck up on them with it...or if you eased them into it kind of slowlike...or if you declared martial law because MSNBC and Bloomberg declared that Occupy New York, Chicago, LA, and Mayberry suddenly made the country ungovernable...
Got your Second Amendment starter kit?
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Petronius| 10.13.11 @ 9:52AM
O'Donnell is "down for the struggle". Some struggle: defending fraud and extortion by accusing a man of being an ethnic traitor for earning his living honestly. How dare Herman Cain bite the hand that shakes down "whitey's corporations" and refuse to consume the pound of flesh civil rights lawyers carve from them and hold in front of him as if it were a eucharist conferring tribal nobility? Herman Cain is now officially an infidel standing up to the leftist jihad. He has no right to succeed in life doing things the "white way", not because he can, but because the left wants honorable success to be impossible. And they are "99%" of the way towards accomplishing that. The Liberal establishment has concentrated enough wealth and power to deny economic and social advancement to any and all who refuse to eat their excrement. And even President Herman Cain and a Congress in Republican hands will not change that because government cannot break the institutional power of liberals in academia and the media. We are fighting a religion grounded in simplistic infantile sentiments seared into the brains of half the populace who bring nothing to their citizenship but supplication and the cold blooded desire that nobody be allowed to get ahead of them. Occupy L A has called for violence in that respect. So mote it be. Economic Liberty and the Right to freely associate in this country will not be restored until these people are gone.
JimW9| 10.13.11 @ 10:19AM
Mr. Tyrrell:
I share your view that Mr. Cain is a stalwart, a man of principle and integrity. I was particularly impressed with his ability to maintain his composure in the face of Mr. O'Donnell's withering assaults. To any fair-minded person, irrespective of her or his view of presidential candidate Cain, he came out of that interview looking large with Mr. O'Donnell looking particularly vicious and vindictive.
As has been pointed out Mr. Cain WON the Florida straw poll with 37% of the vote to Perry's second-place finish at 15.4%.
Art Laffer, of Laffer-curve fame, and an inspiration to Ronald Reagan's tax policy, has just come out supporting the 9-9-9 plan. Cain needs to tighten up the screws on this program. He is clearly on the right track and just needs to improve on his defense of the plan.
I understand the frustration of Ron Paul supporters. Mr. Paul is stuck in the lower tier and is unable to break through to serious contention. He also hit the bulls-eye with his retort to Mr. Cain's blunder of naming Allen Greenspan as a successful Fed Chairman. Mr. Cain should address that mistake at the first opportunity.
This race has now come down to Mitt or Herman. We all have to ask ourselves who of these two will provide the better chance to unleash the greatest economy the world has ever seen.
Romney has clearly made his stand that government-run enterprises are just fine with him. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth when he claims to be a great supporter of free enterprise. Romneycare and free enterprise are mutually exclusive.
Cain is unabashed in his belief in the free market system and his history of success in promoting and expanding free markets.
To me the choice is a simple one - Herman Cain.
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 11:03AM
" Ron Paul Follows Straw Poll Win with 3rd Place Finish in NH
On Monday, Paul followed up his Values Voter Summit straw poll win with a third place finish in a Harvard University Institute of Politics and New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College poll. Paul was one of only three candidates to pull in more than 10 percent of the votes in the poll.
Paul grabbed third place with 13 percent of the votes. Cain came in second with 20 percent of the votes and Romney took first with 38 percent of the votes. Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Gary Johnson and Rick Santorum finished with less than 6 percent of the votes. The poll was conducted between October 2 and 6 with 648 telephone participants. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Mike Hawk| 10.13.11 @ 4:45PM
Get real.
Values Voter Poll win?? 600 Paulbots showed up on the morning of the poll, registered, voted and then left. Typical of their MO.
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 8:34PM
dr.Ron Paul's Top Tier Now.
Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday.
Romney, 23%. Cain, 19%. Paul, 13%.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Anthony| 10.13.11 @ 10:22AM
Petronius, You are spot on. O'Donnell and the pampered left, along with those stooges of the TOW farce, say violence is the only way.
Well, it's long past time they got what was coming to them. This crowd has needed a good slap upside the head for some time now. It's way long overdue.
Let's have at it!!! It's time to clean house America.
vince winstanley| 10.13.11 @ 10:24AM
A crippled economy needs a Cain. And....O'Donnell did Cain a favor. Cain came through as reasoned and tough. Cain in not avoiding enemy territory and he is earning respect because of this.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 4:59PM
WELL SAID!
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 11:08AM
Sarah Palin Said, Cain's " The Flavor Of The Week . "
moey| 10.13.11 @ 11:40AM
Sarah Palin is yesterday's news. She was definitely the 'flavor' of the moment!
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 12:43PM
Cain Said He's, "Black Walnut."
Others Say Cain's, " Tutti Frutti."
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 5:04PM
Ron Paul has been the flavor of the week for how many decades now?
LOL!!
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 8:51PM
Margie's Been " Chunky Monkey " For Decades.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 9:00PM
Like a little child that has nothing but made up insults about other people's physical appearance, you remain the little boy bully in the proverbial playground.
To Clint/Tim* the liar, everyone is fat, ugly, crippled, or whatever.
The verse that applies to you in truth however is this, among others:
"For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked." Rev. 3:17.
Little, little boy.
Clint| 10.14.11 @ 5:30AM
Big, Very Big Girl.
Your Chunky & Ugly & The Russkie's Crippled & Ugly.
Just Sayin'.
Margie| 10.14.11 @ 12:43PM
Ugly is what you are, and it has nothing to do with appearance.
Scumbag.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 5:01PM
Disingenuous once again, Clinty-poo.
Sarah Palin said this:
"Palin defended her comments Thursday night, saying that they weren't controversial at all. "What the media tends to do is, kinda gin up controversy, and propel this flavor of the week. I'm not saying that Herman Cain is the flavor of the week. I'm one of his biggest fans, and I would never dismiss him or speak negatively about him."
Sarah Palin defends Herman Cain video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....88665.html
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 8:41PM
Sarah Palin Said, Cain's " The Flavor Of The Week . "
http://www.thegatewaypundit.co.....eek-video/
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 9:12PM
Only a twisted snake like yourself and your perverted friends here could possibly try and turn what she said into something negative about Herman Cain.
But then, that's what perverts do!
Clint| 10.14.11 @ 5:27AM
Sarah Palin Said Cain's, "The Flavor Of The Week."
We Know Exactly What She Meant.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Margie| 10.14.11 @ 12:43PM
Yes, honest people know what she meant, and they take her word for it, buttwipe.
Dave| 10.13.11 @ 12:16PM
Liberals will only vote for a black man when he 'promises them free money, free cars, free homes, and promises to punish the rich white people'.
Osama promised all this, hence his failed presidency.
Philip Pettus| 10.13.11 @ 12:50PM
Cain did not come in second in the Florida Straw Poll. He came in first by a huge margin with 47% of the vote. Herman Cain's appeal is he is the real conservative candidate, not the black candidate. He's real and he's likable. That's enough to anger the lame and he lazy, which O'Donnell is and represents.
moey| 10.13.11 @ 12:52PM
O'donnell, the liberal black left does not like a Black conservative standing for the principles that Mr. Cain has followed through his life. When Mr.Cain referred to 'brainwashing' he clearly stated that he was talking about 'political brainwashing.' We all know what he was referring to, no question about that. The DFL has tried to keep the Black citizens in this country under the 'give them a handout' rule and they will keep voting for us for years - way back when I was a kid and that's 60 years ago. I am happy to see anyone encourage any segment of our society to THINK for themselves and not just slurp up the pablum handed out by anyone on either side of the isle. With the advent of the Internet we are able to research documents/papers/books/interviews that are well documented and make decisions on our own. I do not need anyone to tell me who to vote for or why - I can make that decision myself and I'm sure that any other segment of society can do the same thing. It takes time, it takes work, it takes analysis, but its better than sitting on a bar stool, or at a slot machine or watching some mind numbing TV babble show! Just MHO
DTCOFAZ| 10.13.11 @ 1:01PM
CAIN FOR 2012. GO CAIN GO!!!!!
CAIN will sure BEAT obama under his feet in every single intelligent debate likes a piece of bread crum!
It's a joyful moment to see the racist left wing MSM out there would have an racist plot to go against CAIN when he goes against obama's communist agenda.
moey| 10.13.11 @ 4:01PM
Right, I can't wait to see that debate!
DTCOFAZ| 10.14.11 @ 1:04AM
Thank you, Margie! Welcome back.
Al Adab| 10.13.11 @ 1:22PM
The Left, our statists, have been able to consolidate their power by breaking the citizens into groups and classes. Class interest is after all a Marxist tenant. Through that division and the attendant "victimology" which they impute to those classes, they maintain their power.
Conservatives, who recognize that the citizens are individuals not members of some collective, often find themselves at a disadvantage when the debate centers on group identity. While group think may help to empower those who profit by creating divisions in our society, it does no good for the nation. It is high time we reject group identity in favor once again of the individual nature of our citizens and the preservation of their Liberty which, after all, is why our national government was created.
somnolence| 10.13.11 @ 1:40PM
I'm about as afraid of the Federal Reserve as I am of Pee Wee Herman. You people are pathetic.
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 5:29PM
You better hope he doesn't sit behind you at the movies.
I'm just sayin...
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martin j smith| 10.13.11 @ 1:42PM
I might well vote for Cain. I might not vote for Romney. Time will tell. Establishment Republicans better watch out we the Tea Party or in my case a sympathizer will not be fooled with. We know what is going .
moey| 10.13.11 @ 4:03PM
I hope the 'establishment Republicans' get out of the way of letting the voting public choose their nominee. I'm tired of having Romney or Perry stuffed down my throat. Niether one of the represents any thing remotely connected to me and my life. Herman Cain does!!!
Mary Mayes | 10.13.11 @ 2:01PM
Mr. Tyrrell, one correction: O'Donnell proclaims himself a socialist, proudly so. Herman Cain is the epitome of the self-made man, the American Dream, and also MLK's goal of judge by character, not color of skin. In better times when things made sense, Cain would be spotlighted as a role model for all young blacks. He has my vote over Romney.
A.M. Mallett| 10.13.11 @ 2:04PM
Ms Mary, I agree with you. As long as Herman Cain is willing to campaign, he has my vote and support.
moey| 10.13.11 @ 4:04PM
Right on!!!
moey| 10.13.11 @ 4:05PM
I'm with you!
coyoteblackgreen| 10.13.11 @ 3:06PM
If the best excuse conservatives can make for not supporting Cain is that he worked as an insider at the Federal Reserve, then I would contend that the urgency of preventing Obama from maintaining residence at the White House has not fully registered with these people. He is certainly more prepared to effect reforms and improvements than a complete novice or lifetime politician.
Cain is a true leader, a true conservative, brings real world experience to the table and also knows what he is up against. He alone has offered substantive forward thinking plans and has been able to articulate both reasons for these platforms and defenses against attacks on them. Further, he has not shirked from the blatant attacks against him personally- made by both liberal and conservative. And his handling of the interview that is the subject for Mr. Tyrrell's article not only demonstrated his ability to handle his "lessers" intellectually (and perhaps otherwise) with grace under fire, but also convinced me that he has the self assuredness and committment to purpose that will be required to take on the "good fight" that we as a nation are staring square in the face.
I must wonder about the numerous naysayers of Cain's person here... they sound genuinely frightened by his ascendence in this presidential race.
That alone says something.
moey| 10.13.11 @ 4:07PM
Yes, I wonder about the naysayers also. He is not the typical person they are accustomed to dealing with. I don't know what the MSM will ever do with an Obama/Cain debate!
UnrepentantCurmudgeon| 10.14.11 @ 12:34AM
Cain will squash Obama, at least as badly as Netanyahu did. Cain is an adult; Obama is a petulant child who has run out of resources. Cain doesn't talk "hope and change", he presents real, if debatable, solutions. He engages on constructive ground. Obama wouldn't stand a chance on domestic issues at any level. Cain does need to go to school on foreign policy, and in my view should bring John Bolton on board right now. But Obama has such a patchwork foreign policy and truckles so badly to militant Islam he really doesn't have much to stand on there either. I can't wait.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.13.11 @ 4:27PM
Herman just got endorsed by Arthur Laffer on the 9-9-9 plan!
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46828
Sean| 10.13.11 @ 4:58PM
This Art Laffer? Another economist totally wrong about the economy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BND3F1KfZ0
Dan Hirsch| 10.13.11 @ 5:38PM
Sean;
Three questions:
When was the Art Laffer video recorded?
Where did you learn about economics?
And how much of your information do you get from the sage, thoughtful Bill Mahre?
Could you explain to us how the Laffer Curve does or does not work?
Just wondering.
DTOM
PS. Three questions, just like Joe Biden's three letter word describing Obama's focus like a laser, "J-O-B-S."
HeeHaw.
Alan Brooks| 10.13.11 @ 6:09PM
Laffingstock.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:51PM
Babbling Brooks.
Heh.
Marc Jeric| 10.13.11 @ 6:50PM
Why doesn't that commie-liberal go to North Korea where he can enjoy the fruits of real marxism, instead of suffering in this sorry vale of capitalism?
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 6:53PM
The same reason that all the other Leftist pond scum stays here. To enjoy the fruits of OUR labors.
Do not fret, sir. For God is just.
DTCOFAZ| 10.14.11 @ 1:06AM
Amen!
bluecollarbytes| 10.13.11 @ 7:18PM
Christian Science Monitor continues the theme of 'tea party racism' today, aksing the question-'are they'?, then 'answering it 'yes- according to self-styled racist experts'.
Herman Cain holds more than his own against the enemy. And at a time when racism is going to be Obama's last failsafe to preventing his loss in Nov 2012, Cain will stand up to poverty pimps, but barely acknowledging their existence, as it should be.
the DA| 10.13.11 @ 8:13PM
I love the fact that Mr. Cain seems so damn fearless. He doesn't avoid going into the belly of the beast to confront those who obviously hate him. It would have been very easy to skip appearances on "The View" and MSNBC. His responses to outrageous questions and insinuations are always measured, well-thought out, and delivered without even a hint of acrimony. He's always the adult in the room, and it's resonating big time with voters.
Margie| 10.13.11 @ 8:51PM
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Margie| 10.13.11 @ 8:53PM
Hmm. I'm trying to say, great comment to bluecollarbytes, but it keeps saying it's considered spam.
Trying again:
GREAT comment.
Clint| 10.13.11 @ 8:54PM
-icles
ilja| 10.13.11 @ 9:27PM
2nd place? You made me go double check and sure enough Cain came in 1st in the FL straw poll. http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....test-vote/
POST American| 10.13.11 @ 10:53PM
--------------------FINAL WORD------------------------
DROP the CAIN.
ABOLISH the FED.
PROSECUTE the Globalists
(CFR-RIIA/Trilateral) for the RED China
set up. sellout and TREASON OP.
Investigate, EXPEL and ABOLISH
the private, banking and EUGENICS
front --UN.
Likewise the poison behind even them,
the deadly, deadly sinister, culture and
sovereignty subverting, ULTRA RICH,
tax free 'chair--IT--Abel' foundations.
UnrepentantCurmudgeon| 10.14.11 @ 12:29AM
Great article, and right to the point. And, it highlights why I think Cain can win: he actually represents strong unifying qualities.
Cain did not succeed because he was black; because he was black his father taught him important lessons about what it would take to succeed coming from the bottom rungs. Cain absorbed those lessons. Now, he stands in position to talk to all Americans about what it really takes to raise your head and progress in this life. It's a real-life "if I can do it, so can you" kind of story. And people relate.
And since O'Donnell, Sharpton and the whole charlatan crew have started this brawl, who better than Cain to finish it? Who better than Cain to talk about judging a person based on the content of his character rather than the color of his skin? I think his message and personality resonate among all races. I think he can win. The GOP just has to get past its fascination with establishment favorite sons and let it happen.
UnrepentantCurmudgeon| 10.14.11 @ 12:29AM
Great article, and right to the point. And, it highlights why I think Cain can win: he actually represents strong unifying qualities.
Cain did not succeed because he was black; because he was black his father taught him important lessons about what it would take to succeed coming from the bottom rungs. Cain absorbed those lessons. Now, he stands in position to talk to all Americans about what it really takes to raise your head and progress in this life. It's a real-life "if I can do it, so can you" kind of story. And people relate.
And since O'Donnell, Sharpton and the whole charlatan crew have started this brawl, who better than Cain to finish it? Who better than Cain to talk about judging a person based on the content of his character rather than the color of his skin? I think his message and personality resonate among all races. I think he can win. The GOP just has to get past its fascination with establishment favorite sons and let it happen.
Earle Belle| 10.14.11 @ 3:50AM
From his faulty recession predictions in 2008, to his support of TARP to his resistance to a Federal Reserve audit, GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain is unqualified to shepherd America to honest economic recovery, asserts Revolution PAC.
As conservatives, including Rep. Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich, rally for fiscal transparency, Cain – a former Kansas City Federal Reserve chairman – continues to dismiss the push for a thorough audit of the public-private agency. While Cain asserts in his new autobiography, “I don’t think you’re going to find anything to audit on the Federal Reserve,” Paul’s Domestic Monetary Policy subcommittee has overseen a GAO investigation of the Fed’s crisis response emergency lending that uncovered$16 trillion in emergency loans to foreign banks.
Cain’s pattern of misjudgment and obfuscation is not a recent phenomenon. Just one week before the economic collapse and subsequent banker bailouts in 2008, he went on the record to defend the strength of the financial markets and suggest an “imaginary recession.”
“He was completely clueless about the condition of the economy right up to the moment of collapse,” notes Revolution PAC Chairman Tom Woods.
Cain proceeded to wholeheartedly back, in big government liberal fashion, the controversial Troubled Asset Relief Program, which he deemed a “win-win for the taxpayer.” He flippantly argued, “The ownership by the taxpayers is going to be relatively small and nowhere near the amount needed to be called nationalization. So what’s the problem?”
“We need sweeping, systemic changes, carried out by a real supporter of the free market who sees the whole picture,” Woods urges, “not trivial tinkering by Herman Cain or his friend Mitt Romney, whom he endorsed in 2008.”
Woods continues, “Dr. Paul specifically warned in 2001 that Alan Greenspan and the Federal Reserve, whose NASDAQ bubble had just burst, were in the process of creating a housing bubble. That Ron Paul is the candidate best equipped to lead us back to economic prosperity is nearly undisputed.”
A recent Harris Poll revealed that Ron Paul would prevail over Barack Obama 51 percent to 49 percent in a general election race. Paul stands at 13 percent in New Hampshire, site of the first-in-the-nation primary.
Revolution PAC is bolstering Ron Paul’s consistent, constitutional message with targeted TV advertising campaigns complemented by billboards and radio ads in key primary states. Proceeds will support the airing of game-changing commercials, like the game-changing Plastic Men” in the months to come. Unlimited donations by individuals, businesses and organizations can be made to Revolution PAC.
ObamaCare Advisers Were Also RomneyCare Advisers
Writes James Antle at The American Spectator:
“Records show that Mitt Romney aides met a dozen times with the White House to discuss health care reform, according to reports that are sure to refocus attention on the similarities between Obamacare and Romneycare. The Massachusetts health care plan Romney signed into law was an inspiration for the federal legislation, signed by Barack Obama, that the Republican frontrunner has pledged to have repealed.
It’s worth noting that at least two of the aides, Jon Gruber and John McDonough, are liberal Democrats, the latter a former aide to the late Sen. Ted Kennedy. The Romney campaign has downplayed Gruber’s role in crafting the Massachusetts law. These facts could either be mitigating, since it isn’t shocking a Kennedy aide would visit the Obama White House, or one could argue it revealed the liberal imprimatur on the Massachusetts health care law even during the design phase.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....KfuS6gfxPY
http://www.revolutionpac.com/2.....18/Federal Reserve insider unfit to lead economic recovery, charges Revolution PAC.
Earle Belle| 10.14.11 @ 3:53AM
ObamaCare Advisers Were Also RomneyCare Advisers
Writes James Antle at The American Spectator:
“Records show that Mitt Romney aides met a dozen times with the White House to discuss health care reform, according to reports that are sure to refocus attention on the similarities between Obamacare and Romneycare. The Massachusetts health care plan Romney signed into law was an inspiration for the federal legislation, signed by Barack Obama, that the Republican frontrunner has pledged to have repealed.
It’s worth noting that at least two of the aides, Jon Gruber and John McDonough, are liberal Democrats, the latter a former aide to the late Sen. Ted Kennedy. The Romney campaign has downplayed Gruber’s role in crafting the Massachusetts law. These facts could either be mitigating, since it isn’t shocking a Kennedy aide would visit the Obama White House, or one could argue it revealed the liberal imprimatur on the Massachusetts health care law even during the design phase.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....KfuS6gfxPY
http://www.revolutionpac.com/2.....18/Federal Reserve insider unfit to lead economic recovery, charges Revolution PAC.
Flit Andersen| 10.14.11 @ 5:25AM
Hey, O'Donnell! Ever hear the old saying, 'Those who can do; those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach either find gainful, useful employment or go on to lucrative careers on television as annoying snot-nosed punks'?
JCH| 10.14.11 @ 7:06PM
Emmett, you speak of "Larry" in much kinder terms than I would. You can't print what I would say.
mstahl| 10.15.11 @ 1:35PM
Anytime that someone employs the race card and calls someone else racist, it is simply proof that they themselves are racist. It is purely intellectual conceit to believe that one can be the arbiter of "racism". In order to do so, you must yourself make value judgements based upon race.
sommers | 10.16.11 @ 7:28PM
Herman was for the bailouts,(fed reserve and wall street connections). Herman was for the "stimulus" (Oops, they just did it wrong). Herman was/is for the "Patriot Act", ( "well 90%" of it anyhow).
But, Herman will "admit I was wrong, didn't have the right information".
Get serious, he's easily superior to Obama, but he'll be learning on the job.
I'd stick with Paul. He seems to realize events before they happen.
POST American| 10.18.11 @ 4:34AM
-----------------BOTTOMLESS LINE-------------------
------------------HER--man CAIN-----------------------
-------------------------is the-------------------------------
----------------------ROT-child---------------------------
--------------------------FED-------------------------------
Do NOT be deceived.