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Nine Reasons Why Republicans Ought to Nominate Herman Cain

By Aaron Goldstein on 10.4.11 @ 6:08AM

As a mathematician he would teach the incumbent a thing or two about “simple math.”

Let us assume that the field bidding to be the Republican standard bearer in 2012 will not expand. Let us assume also that neither New Jersey Governor Chris Christie nor Sarah Palin will throw their hat into the ring. Let us further assume that neither Mike Huckabee nor Paul Ryan is having second thoughts. In which case, Mitt Romney is still the frontrunner. Yet conservatives appear no more prepared to embrace him now than they were in 2008. Rick Perry hasn’t proved a viable alternative and Michele Bachmann’s fifteen minutes is up. Over the past week or so, with straw poll triumphs in Florida and Illinois, Herman Cain has begun to strike the right chord with Republican voters and has seen his poll numbers rise. So here are nine reasons why Republicans should nominate Herman Cain for President.

1. He Has No Sense of Entitlement
Cain wasn’t born into a life of privilege. Yet he bore no resentment because of it. He believed in the American Dream yet understood he had to work hard for it. Cain set goals for himself and made sure he had the education necessary to attain them. He found opportunities and seized them. Cain grew up with the knowledge that the world doesn’t owe one a living. He has earned his place in the world.

2. He Worked at Burger King
Cain was assigned to manage some of the least successful Burger King restaurants in the country and turned them into the most profitable. To do this he improved service and kept customers satisfied. It would be a remarkable if Cain could do for the federal government what he did for Burger King.

3. He Has Never Held Elected Office
I am not suggesting there isn’t any honor in public service. Unfortunately, many elected officials (Democrats and Republicans alike) use their office in service of themselves rather than the people who elect them. Public officials are preoccupied with re-election and such a preoccupation doesn’t lend itself towards innovation because innovation is risky and risk can alienate a public official’s donors.

In the food service industry, Cain had to take risk and innovate or go out of business. At the risk of sounding clichéd, Cain thinks outside the box. He isn’t constrained by conventional political wisdom and will do what it takes to ensure this country doesn’t go out of business.

4. He Is a Mathematician
President Obama tells us that passing his jobs bill is “simple math.” Well, Cain majored in math at Morehouse University. He is in the rare position of being able to tell President Obama, “I am a trained mathematician. I have looked at your numbers and can tell you that they don’t add up.”

5. He Was a CEO
Hollywood often casts businessmen as villains and President Obama has spent a great deal of his Presidency vilifying CEOs (unless, of course, you happen to be the CEO of a company that got $500 million plus to manufacture expensive solar panels nobody wanted.) Cain was a successful CEO. But he wasn’t plucked from central casting. He earned his way to the top. Cain could tell President Obama a thing or two about what CEOs really do.

6. He Is The Adult in the Room
Cain is actually only fifteen years older than President Obama. But he strikes such a mature image that standing next to Obama he could be mistaken for his father. In an Obama-Cain debate, President Obama would come off like a petulant son who thinks he knows everything while Cain would tell Obama that he has a lot of growing up to do. Frankly, as a black man, Cain could speak to Obama with a candor the other candidates could not get away with without being called racist.

7. He Would Make Liberal Charges of Racism Look Really, Really Stupid
Actress Janeane Garofalo infamously said that the Tea Party was “about hating a black man in the White House” and was “racism straight up.” Yet Cain would end up as one of the most popular figures in the Tea Party movement. So what does Garofalo have to say about Cain? Here is what she recently told Keith Olbermann:

Herman Cain is probably well liked by some of the Republicans because it hides the racist elements of the Republican Party. Conservative movement and tea party movement, one in the same.  People like Karl Rove liked to keep the racism very covert. And so Herman Cain provides this great opportunity say you can say “Look, this is not a racist, anti-immigrant, anti-female, anti-gay movement. Look we have a black man.”

So in other words, Republicans are so racist they would nominate a black man in the hope he will be elected President of the United States. Gee, it doesn’t get more racist than that. Left-wing loons like Garofalo might actually believe this but they are going to have an awfully tough time convincing people the Republican Party is racist if they nominate Cain. If Republicans do nominate Cain it will be because of the content of his character, not the color of his skin.

8. The Content of His Character
Herman Cain has demonstrated that he is a man who carries himself with a sense of humor, dignity, modesty, responsibility and gratitude towards the country that allowed him an opportunity to succeed.

Does he know everything he needs to know to be President? No. But Cain is a quick study. He possesses the diligence necessary to turn whatever weaknesses he might possess into strengths.

9. 9-9-9
Now you didn’t think I was going to leave this out, did you?

If implemented, 9-9-9 would represent the most significant change to our tax system since the income tax was introduced in 1913. It would also represent a significant first step in reducing the size of the federal government.

I leave the rest up to you.

About the Author

Aaron Goldstein writes from Boston, Massachusetts.

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Chef Schnauzer| 10.4.11 @ 6:14AM

Works for me - I'd be pleased to vote for / give money to Cain. The reasons state make great sense which mean the republican party apparatchiks won't do it. Tea Party: conservatives who put country and constitution before political party b*lls*it.

Timothy L. Pennell| 10.4.11 @ 8:12AM

I like him, too. BUT. He had better cool it, with the RACIST/INSENSITIVE crap, right now. If he thought that the question about that ROCK, in Texas, was a good spot to get some Street cred, with the homies? Let me be the first to say: Knock it off.
If all we're gonna hear, out of every Black Candidate, is the RACISM shtick? Then, there ain't gonna be, The Second African American President. I promise you.
I, for one, am SICK and TIRED of being accused of stuff. If Herman wants to play that game, then he's in the Wrong Party. And. I doubt that I'm alone.
Every day we hear how RACIST we are, from THEIR Black Guy. If I gotta hear it from ours? Then we're not gonna have, a Black Guy.
Stick with the "Content of their Character", stuff, Herman. Lose the "Colour of their skin".
Cause we've HAD ENOUGH, of that garbage.
I'm just saying.

Mriordon| 10.4.11 @ 9:49AM

I like Herman very much and have supported him from the beginning. He got popular without attacking all his competitors, then it seems he received some bad advice and started attacking everyone. I'm with Mr. Pennell, don't call me a racist. Also, Herman, you're making a big mistake appearing with the idiots on "The View". By the way, I still like Rick Perry very much and don't believe he's a racist either.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 10:15AM

I don't wath the View so did Cain pander to the rabid extremists and racists on that show? If he did we may be starting to see the real Herman Cain.

arlo price| 10.4.11 @ 11:53PM

The obamagedon PIMP thugocracy chugs along.....

It's all about perception......

http://www.urbandictionary.com.....niggerhead

Let's Roll

Jack in Wi.| 10.5.11 @ 8:39AM

999 is bound to fail if we still have the income tax. I will give Herman credit for opposing the asssassination of american citizens by the whim of the President without an indictment or trial. There is a good U tube of him on this issue.

Corey| 10.6.11 @ 9:53AM

The 999 plan is only a stepping stone to the fair tax.

The 999 plan is only used to juice the economy get it kicking again to gain the trust of the electorate, then he will tour the country educating the masses on the FairTax and then urge them to put pressure on their congresscritter.

But the argument we should just keep the current tax code as is and just merely tinker around the edges,, like Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, and Barack Obama are proposing is unacceptable.

So stop fundamental tax reform because it isn't what you find perfect and so leave the current corrupt and fascist tax code in place because of that is hardly an argument against the 999 plan.

Paul| 10.7.11 @ 5:56PM

999 is just 666 upside down, and Cain is an unfortunate Biblical name. Now I wouldn't claim that Herman is the anti-christ but there's a lot of gun totin' white folk in the bible belt that may just draw that conclusion. Good luck Mr. Cain, and don't let them turn that 999 of yours upside down.

Moe| 10.9.11 @ 9:27PM

Lots of "gun totin' white folk" like him.

Kay| 10.10.11 @ 8:10AM

I don't think Romney is tinkering around the edges. His skill set is amazing and he sees the end from the beginning, but he will not skip the essential middle steps. I think the Republican party wants to do much what Obama wanted to do...do it now, do it fast, do it my way, without looking at any consequences to their "hurry and do mentally."

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 3:44AM

He has already flip-flopped on that one.

Christine Lewis| 10.4.11 @ 10:46AM

The 'View' has a HUGE national audience.. Cain is not afraid of the 'Ladies', and it helps get his name ID out there.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 11:27AM

My question is did he pander to the leftist and racists on the View? If he did then Herman Cain is not a conservative. It is clear Herman Cain to his followers can do no wrong a lot like another black politician who ran for President.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 1:24PM

He mentioned that "N-head" was offensive. Then he said that he accepted the Perry Campaign explanation and said, essentially,"let's move on."

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:33PM

Good answer.
But those who just don't like him will always find a reason not to.

Corey| 10.6.11 @ 9:53AM

Exactly

Kay| 10.10.11 @ 8:12AM

so true of any candidate. Paradigm sickness

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 2:08PM

His statement was amazingly restrained. It was hardly pandering to point out that the word is highly offensive, and not just to people of color.

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 3:48AM

Why didn't he wait to find out if there was any truth to the story before attacking Perry? It was reported in the Washington Post, for crying out loud.

FreedomRings| 10.5.11 @ 3:47PM

Michael, why don't you just watch the segment and make up your own mind?

http://www.videosurf.com/video.....1331972705

wheat3000| 10.10.11 @ 8:05PM

I don't think Rick Perry is a racist either, just look at the 'former' name of his hunting ranch...

Oh wait, never mind.

loulou| 10.4.11 @ 10:42AM

Timothy L. Pennell--AMEN. You took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you.

Cain had better wise up and get some coaching, pronto.

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 2:09PM

Yes, we wouldn't want a black person who finds the N word offensive would we? Only those good shufflin' types will do for the tea party!

LiveFreeOrDie| 10.4.11 @ 4:30PM

The word in question was "nappy" not the one you're thinking.

John Navratil| 10.4.11 @ 10:16PM

RCV,

Beggin' the question?

Do we know that the place was named 'Niggerhead' before Perry's Dad (and later he) leased it? Do we know they didn't own the hunting lease? Do we know that some Perry over painted over the name?

We seem to be conflicted over the thickness of the paint and how soon the paint was applied. We might also look back to 1990 when some governmental cartographic group began mandating name changes to things like "Nigger Creek" in Texas. You'd think, from the recent press, that the Klan was marching at the Perry hunting lease.

Cain didn't do himself any favours injecting himself into such an incidental circumstance. Nonetheless, I think he is the best breath of fresh air in this race.

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 10:52PM

I don't disagree with the last sentiment, although he's yet to prove himself under the glare of a frontrunner status. We shall see. Republicans seem to have an amazing tendency these days to wound their own.

oke e doke| 10.5.11 @ 6:11PM

one of the things i like most about Mr Cain is that he is not afraid to use the other N word. Newt is the smartest political figure on the planet. Mr Cain recognizes this.

HERMAN CAIN DO IT !!!!

Southern_Comment| 10.4.11 @ 10:34PM

I missed the racist thing, I'll have to look that up. I've liked Herman Cain from the beginning. I think he has an excellent speaking style as well as the common sense he claims. I don't think the fact that he hasn't held office is a hindrance and in fact due to his dealings at the executive level, his negotiating skills are already on par and far outdo Obama's. When he said he should have stood up to the booing instead of recognizing that it was the question that was boo'd and the audience's objections to it needed no reaction. That didn't stick well with me. He's a strong figure and should remain as such, we see his compassion each time he shows respect to his country and the office for which he is running, he does not need to give in and answer to the petulant child's accusations to do so.

florin| 10.5.11 @ 11:16AM

I agree Timothy. I was leaning towards Cain until he sided with Al Sharpton and slammed Perry even before he had the facts. This shows the character of Cain - and he has a dirty mouth. I'm an Independent voter and will vote for Romney, hoping he will put Rubio or Paul Ryan on his ticket.

Confounded Society| 10.5.11 @ 3:38PM

It's amzing how many liberal trolls and Romney supporters (a lot of whom are one and the same) are trying to keep this alive. He answered a question in two interviews on Sunday. That's it. Never mentioned Rick Perry or blamed him for it. Nice to know how many of you are afraid of Herman Cain, though.

Kung| 10.6.11 @ 12:34AM

@Confounded -- My thoughts exactly! Only vapid lefties would think this issue has legs and is a reason to disqualify the man. I also think a Cain nomination would purge the GOP of some its unsavory racist elements (who would switch to the Democrat party where they'd fit in).

Independent lady| 10.29.11 @ 5:36PM

I was interested in Cain until he pulled the race card. He should have checked facts before speaking out against Perry. In the View interview he again made a deal out of it, and he knew exactly what effect it would have on Perry. Perry has a history of appointees of all minorities (1st African American to the TX high court), and Cain is quoted as considering supporting Obama in 2008, then endorsing Romney.

Cain is too much the "motivation speaker" and touting his books (which his campaign bought thousands to hand out) . I don't think he is in this to turn America around, I think it is to promote himself, his business, and his books. We already have one of those in the WH now!

Perry is in because he cares, and look at his tax return if you want to see who has money. The wealthiest are Cain, Romney, & Huntsman. Vote for who has core values and the experience, not the lawyer or paid speakers!

jamaljackson| 10.5.11 @ 5:23PM

Amen!

Rod Hug| 10.5.11 @ 6:08PM

I agree.

Nonabsolute| 10.5.11 @ 6:22PM

Timothy L. Pennell - you need to clean out your ears. I just listened to the Segment of the View and you better listen for yourself. From what I read of comment you have not listened to or read the transcripsts of the show. -- I am tired of ill informed people making comments (It is your right - but it makes you look foolish).

I am begining to turn towards Cain (I think the 999 plan is lame -get rid of the 9% income tax and I will support it).

Rod Hug| 10.5.11 @ 9:03PM

Yes, later it could become 9,9,18 or more

Corey| 10.6.11 @ 9:55AM

The 999 plan is only a stepping stone to the fair tax.

So stop fundamental tax reform because it isn't what you find perfect and so leave the current corrupt and fascist tax code in place because of that is hardly an argument against the 999 plan.

USSAlabama| 10.4.11 @ 9:24AM

Like Cain very much -- like 9/9/9 very little.

Foxfire| 10.4.11 @ 2:08PM

Herman Cain bad for Ameirca and no conservative...people, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

http://www.wakeup1776.com/2011.....d-not.html

Confounded Society| 10.5.11 @ 3:42PM

Doesn't exactly hold any weight coming from a Ron paulista website (pretty poorly designed one too)

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 3:54AM

Yeah, if the truth come from a Paul fan we don't want to hear it.
Good grief

Quartermaster| 10.4.11 @ 4:05PM

9-9-9 is a bad idea, as has been pointed out by writers on this site. You can not leave an income tax in place and also implement what amounts to a VAT. The libs would love him for it, although they would still villify him as an Uncle Tom.

The when they get back in, the Libs would jack up the VAT and the income tax and laugh all the way to the bank.

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 5:32PM

I seem to recall that repeal of the 16th (?) Amendment is part of that program, and the 9-9-9 would sunset if the amendment were not repealed. QM is right that the income tax cannot remain in place were 9-9-9 to be passed.
One nit, 9-9-9 is NOT the same as a VAT.

John Navratil| 10.4.11 @ 10:18PM

irish19,

He stated as much in his response to Romney in the last debate. And, yes!, a national sales tax assessed at the point of sale is not the same as a VAT assessed as each manufacturer adds value to the product.

irish19| 10.5.11 @ 12:23AM

'Zacly.

Corey| 10.6.11 @ 9:56AM

The 999 plan is only a stepping stone to the fair tax.

So stop fundamental tax reform because it isn't what you find perfect and so leave the current corrupt and fascist tax code in place because of that is hardly an argument against the 999 plan.

Paul| 10.6.11 @ 6:08PM

It is naive to think that the 999 plan is a stepping stone to the Fairtax. It is quite the opposite as it imposes more taxes while infringing on our freedoms even more than the current system of taxation.

Let's be realistic, once given the power to confiscate our money at both the points of production and consumption, the government will not relent by "sunsetting" any appreciable stream of income. No, what will happen instead is that the government will continue to expand its power and raise taxes. Remember, the income tax started out as only 3% on the wealthiest Americans - now it touches practically everyone.

Yes, the 999 plan may be fundamental reform, but it will infringe our freedoms more than they are now, which is a step in the opposite direction intended by the Fairtax. A system that confiscates income with no provisions for avoidance is worse than what we have now from the standpoint of personal freedom. In my mind, the Fairtax has always been about restoring personal freedom and any proposal that seeks to do otherwise is anathema to me.

Cain's proposal is being marketed as a stepping stone, but when one looks at the direction it takes us, one should be skeptical, in the least. Personally, I'm appalled and can only wonder who got hold of Mr. Cain. He used to a Fairtaxer. Now, I think he's not someone to trust.

Jack in Wi.| 10.5.11 @ 8:34AM

Uncle Herman and Uncle Barack have a lot in common besides skin color. They are both in the pocket of the Federal Reserve, Military Industrail Complex and the Israeli lobby. They are bought and paid for. The elites are besides themselves.Perry is a massive flop, Romney is disliked by 2/3 of the party and Christie and Ryan have turned them down. Herman Cain is their last hope. Well old Herman will do as well against Obama as Alan Keyes did when the elites put him up in the US Senate race against Obama.

It is Ron Paul or ruin. The elites with their endless wars and endless bailouts will destroy, what little is left of the country. Obama or Cain is like choosing between tweedle dumb or tweedle dumber.

Josiah Donaldson| 10.5.11 @ 3:36PM

I used to like Ron Paul, but his followers are so dilusional that they make the rest of the Republican Party sick. Even the Tea Party!!!!!!!!!!!

Corey| 10.6.11 @ 10:03AM

Agreed. I was a Ron Paul supporter in 2008, but after seeing my fellow supporters troll every single article about another candidate and just bash him over and over about the same issue that has already been shot down hundreds of times.

People reading these comments see the Ron Paul supporters hatred, vitriol and condescended posts towards other candidates and associate that mean spirited behavior with Ron Paul himself.... THIS is what is keeping Ron Paul from ever reaching the top tier.

So when the primaries roll around and Ron Paul struggles to place 5th in every contest, just remember YOU are to blame.

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 4:53PM

Wow. BARACK is in the pockets of AIPAC?

Not according to the AIPAC missives I get as a member of AIPAC.

By the way, Jack, 5 Jews this year won Hard Science Nobels, including one Israeli whose work you would have destroyed.

Ya know, the more I think about you and your idiot partner, the more you and Clint resemble the middle member of the "human centipede."

Jack in Wi.| 10.5.11 @ 7:43PM

Obama has always been in the pocket of the Israeli Lobby from his first days running for office in Chicago. They funded his campaigns with huge amounts of money. They have all been his key advisors. Who do you think Axelrod, Rahm Emmanuel, Summers, Ratner and most of his Czars, Rubin, Koch, Goldman Sachs, Soros, most Hollywood Jews, etc. were for and are backing? There is no grovel that Obama won't stoop to, as long as he gets to keep playing President. Every morning his handlers wind him up give him a speech and tell him what to do. He is about in control of his own actions, as Howdy Doody was in the 1950's. Just because most Jews are liberals. Who disagree with the crazies on this site doesn't mean that Obama isn't bought and paid for by the Lobby. So is old Herman Cain. When you own both sides you can't lose.

Corey| 10.6.11 @ 10:05AM

You don't need to read any farther into a Ron Paul supporters p0st than this one right here.

Obama stiffed Israel completely on the 67 borders issue... claiming Obama is bougth and paid for by the Israel lobby shows your completely wacky thought processes, no wonder everyone associates Ron Paul with his nutjob supporters.. sheesh. now go tell Alex Jones I hurt your feewings.

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:30AM

And it is unfortunate---Paul has some very good domestic ideas, although I disagree with drug legalization.

But his foreign policy ideas, in the middle of what Norman Podhoretz called WWIV (III was the Cold war), is problematic, Corey. I agree. Hey, I'm a Tea Partier, too.

jmkstl| 10.5.11 @ 5:48PM

Are you kidding? Obama in the pocket of the Israeli lobby? Have you actually been watching what is going on with Israel in the last year?

Michael| 10.5.11 @ 6:20PM

These Paulites are one Reynolds Wrap roll from full tilt conspiracy nuts.

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 3:59AM

What is going on in Israel has nothing to do with the Jewish support Obama enjoyed. It's sad but true, and very confusing.

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:32AM

Well, the vote in NY shows Obama support in the Jewish community may be fading.

As for myself, I vote for low taxes, low government intrusion, and strong defense and 3rd world bashing. Keeps it simple for me.

mortepa| 10.6.11 @ 2:54PM

Herman Cain and why I can't vote for him...

He has almost Zero record to back up his rhetoric. Just like Obama, but even worse. He can literally say almost anything he wants on the issues without being held accountable for his voting record.

He REFUSES to audit the Fed. He is AGAINST exposing the sources that profit off the American people's backs. A transparent audit IS necessary for an institution this large! Especially since it iw without oversight and accountability to us!

He supports second amendment 'in general', but ultimately he feels it should be up to the individual states to control this issue. How does he justify states overriding the 2nd amendment? He refuses to elaborate on his views in this area so far.

Refuses to state his views about foreign policy until he is in office. How about just saying bring our troops home NOW? Haven't enough of our loved ones died yet?

The 9-9-9 plan? How about the 0-0-0 plan...ZERO Federal personal income tax - ZERO National sales tax - ZERO Corporate income tax!

Herman Cain will not state his opinion on legalization of marijuana or his views on usage for medical reasons.

He is against gay marriage and FOR the federal government regulation of marriage. Does this mean he is likely anti- personal liberty, at least on some scale?

Cain can't name even one agency to abolish or cut the funding on.

Supporter of the Patriot Act. (warrantless searches and spying on our citizens)

Supporter of TARP.

Supporter of the Iraq war.

Opposes negotiating with North Korea, period.

Claims he would never hire a Muslim to his cabinet.

Cain didn't see the financial collapse comming (means he wont see the next or know how to fix this one)

Has been a supporter of Romney in the past, including his personal endorsement.

A. James van Hine| 10.4.11 @ 6:55AM

The second presidential candidate that I have given money to. Not even old enough to vote, I saw Reagan as a great man. I see the same in Cain. Go Herman!

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 7:00AM

In channeling his inner Al Sharpton and making scurrilous attacks on Rick Perry Cain has not only lost my respect, but my vote if he is the Republican nominee. He’s no better than Obama and his European tax scheme 9-9-9 with its jobs killing VAT or national sales tax and retention of the income tax (Cain does NOT want to repeal the 16th Amendment) will bring joy to the hearts of Democrats who will use it to punish the productive and middle-class for their special interest groups.

If Cain wants to play the race card then he needs to go and join the party of virulent racism – the Democrats (slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, segregation and affirmative action). Add to this his statement that he couldn’t support Perry if he got the nomination then Herman Cain isn’t a Republican, but another RINO akin to the jihadist apologist and blame America Ron Paul.

Brian Mc| 10.4.11 @ 7:42AM

If Herman Cain, or any other for that matter, were a true conservative they would immediately demand repeal of the sixteenth upon entering office.

There is no room for fudging on this.

The pens that stroked across pages of debate before, during and after that noble document, we call the Constitution, was put to paper would explode if they were aware of what we have wrought upon ourselves with the passage of that evil amendment. Or, at the very least, set aside with mumblings of, "Why bother?"

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 2:11PM

How do you "demand" repeal of a Constitutional amendment ratified by the States?

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 5:44PM

RCV, I hate to mention this, you being a Constitutional Lawyer and me being a mere shrink on this issue and all, but...wasn't Prohibition a Constitutional Amendment? Wasn't "Repeal" of Prohibition a major running point of FDR's 1st campaign? Wasn't an amendment passed repealing that Amendment? (Ahh, yes, the 21st Amendment, repealing the 18th one, passed into law 12/5/1933, as I see in my Hillsdale College Constitution by my desk.)

That is how you demand and that is how it is done.

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 8:05PM

You can propose repeal, you can draft a repeal proposal, but you can't "demand" repeal. You can demand something someone owes to you, or that you have something they want. But how does one "demand" that 34 states repeal an amendment to the Constitution, and who cares if you do?

John Navratil| 10.4.11 @ 10:23PM

RCV,

Did any presidential candidate ever not talk as a presumptive emperor? He can certainly demand, as Obama is now demanding "Pass this bill". But as Harry Reid (the poster-boy of compromise) shows, Presidential demands are not what they might wish them to be.

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 4:57PM

Ah.

Hokay, the voters petition their Reps to arrange for Repeal?

(Honestly, RCV, on this one you are engaging in a wee bit of pilpul. I mean, I know what you are getting at, but the term "demand" is a simplification, like the term "subconscious" doesn't exist in Freudian theory ("unconscious" is the term) but everyone uses it and knows what it means.)

From a legal perspective, it isn't a technical "demand." From the point of view of the Congressional aide getting his ear blistered off on the phone, it sure feels that way.

SpiralArchitect| 10.4.11 @ 7:26PM

...about as successful as demanding documents (school, birth, notes from his book writtings - anything to authenticate him) from Zero's past I suspect.

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 8:07PM

You guys finally pestered enough on the birth certificate til he finally made fools of you by sending someone to Hawaii to retrieve a copy of the original. Those of us who elected him think he is more than adequately "authenticated".

John Navratil| 10.4.11 @ 10:24PM

RCV,

Apropos of what? He is what he is until he ain't what he ain't.

Gern Blanston| 10.5.11 @ 10:48AM

You mean that "original" electronic fabrication that's been proven to be a forgery? Nice try. ROFL. Not sure what's more pathetic...the Won's "birth certificate" or you admitting that you voted for the fraud.

RCV| 10.5.11 @ 2:14PM

Pure garbage.

Larry| 10.8.11 @ 3:31AM

Proven ?..What's your source on this,I would really like to read it

Spinward | 10.5.11 @ 8:22PM

We were gifted with the first layered birth certificate in history. Very amazing, if you ask me.

wheat3000| 10.10.11 @ 8:14PM

A quick reminder:

George W. Bush was elected not by the people but by the supreme court - please keep this in mind when arguing about a birth certificate. Do you have YOUR birth certificate handy perchance?

wheat3000| 10.10.11 @ 8:14PM

A quick reminder:

George W. Bush was elected not by the people but by the supreme court - please keep this in mind when arguing about a birth certificate. Do you have YOUR birth certificate handy perchance?

Corey| 10.6.11 @ 10:06AM

Herman Cain supports the FairTax, the 999 plan is a stepping stone to that.

The FairTax after signing does not official become law until the 16th amendment is repealed.

Big Tony| 10.4.11 @ 8:21AM

With all due respect you and Brian are both wrong. Cain's 999 plan is an interim plan until the the fair tax can be instituted and this would include the elimination of the 16 amendment. And anybody that thinks a Constitutional Amendment can be immediately eliminated is either ignorant of the process involved or delusional about it. As far a Cain's remark concerning the N word at Perry hunting camp Cain said the word was insensitive and said nothing about Perry. I don't know about whether Cain can or will support Perry but that is his perogative.

I think the 999 plan is a brilliant way to 1. stand out from the herd of candidates that only want to tinker around the edges and play it safe , 2 an excellent way to stimulate the economy and move toward the Fair Tax. If you don't like that Fair Tax or think it's Job Killing then that's your perogative.

No candidate is perfect and Cain is no exception but he may be as good as it gets.

R Martin| 10.4.11 @ 9:35AM

No, Big T, Michael and Brain are correct. Cain is a commendable candidate in many respects and he is gaining polish as he learns the process, but his call for a new broad-based tax (VAT), however temporary or interim, is a deal killer.

We all know such taxes only grow with the passage of time and enable government to continue expanding. The tax structure needs to be broadened and costs need to be reduced. As a businessman, Cain can certainly see this, but it appears he does not have the political will to address the issues properly. A VAT proposal is just too easy, and it puts Cain in the same philosophical bed as Bill O'Reilly.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 11:32AM

Bill O'Reilly is no conservative either. Some of the biggest proponents of the so-called regressive "fair tax" are liberalterians. That should make conservatives wise up pronto. Hiding taxes, as this so-called fair tax, does from the people is dangerous and strikes at the bedrock of the conservative movement. Rather than looking for ways to raise taxes/revenues we need to be looking at ways to scale back government and put more money in the pockets of tax payers. This tax hurts the working and middle class the most.

TrueBlue| 10.4.11 @ 1:27PM

Both the Fair Tax and Cain's 9-9-9 tax ideas are decent ideas. They WOULD work, but they would have to be worded a lot better than the 16th was. The point of the 16th was originally only to take a very miniscule portion of the population, and not a great deal either. But it left a HUGE loophole to further expand it. Any tax reform would require the repeal of the 16th (and all other tax laws), and then passing a new amendment that does not allow for ANY FURTHER changes to federal tax laws.

Cain's 9-9-9 idea would work quite well with the above in mind, and it's something everyone seems to ignore. I guarentee you, Cain has not ignored that fact.

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 5:42PM

Well said! Spot on.

Brian Mc| 10.4.11 @ 1:38PM

Go back and re-read my post Big T. Never did I say anything there that would justify a "deluded" remark such as the one you foisted in such arrogant fashion. "Demand" has no guarantee attached...but, coming from the POTUS would only bring the debate to the forefront and hopefully put the sixteenth to rest for good.

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 4:03AM

If Cain is as good as it gets... then this party and this country is in real trouble

Josiah Donaldson| 10.5.11 @ 3:40PM

Calm down Mike! Did you see the video where he was commenting on the hunting camp? He was very thoughtful about what he said. I believe that if the word was on that rock recently enough to be discovered by the media, then that does take Perry's views on certain things into account.

John Daniel| 10.4.11 @ 7:04AM

Was initially disappointed that he was "offended" at Perrygate, as an appeal to sensitivity has a tendency to cut off discourse. But he seems to have recovered appropriately. The only thing that should offend us is an unwillingness to honestly and frankly discuss issues.

Christine Lewis| 10.4.11 @ 10:56AM

Cain grew up in the segregated south... had to drink out of 'colored only' drinking fountains, and sit at the back of the bus. If that was YOUR history.. you might have reacted the same.

Clinon| 10.4.11 @ 11:40AM

So Herman Cain is now the victim. First the race card now the victim card. How soon are we going to hear people calling for reparations for slavery, because Herman Cain is descended from slaves? This is typical black racist politics at its worst. If this is the only way he can win the nomination we should all vote for poor Obama whose an even more effective race pimp.

Herman Cain played the race card to smear a fellow Republican just like a Democrat and then lied that he didn't do it. That's Democrat black politics 101 --smear Republicans as racists.

TrueBlue| 10.4.11 @ 2:13PM

He didn't call him racist, didn't even imply it. Definition of insensitive and racist aren't even similar. People are stretching the truth of what was said to support their opinion.

in·sen·si·tive - Adjective/inˈsensitiv/
1. Showing or feeling no concern for others' feelings.
2. Not sensitive to a physical sensation: "insensitive to pain".

Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"
racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination"
2. racist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

He's right, the name of the place was insensitive. Is there any proof that he went seeking the interviews, or did the news orgs go to him because he is the only black man in the GOP field? If they went to him, and he declined, then he'd get even more flak for not responding. If people say he went to the news about it first, prove it. All I'm seeing are interviews with the subject being brought up by the interviewer, not the other way around.

John Daniel| 10.4.11 @ 3:18PM

It's OUR history. Taking personal offense at something is, well, personal. Our individual experiences can be informative, but those who seek to reperesent us should deal in the third person.

SpiralArchitect| 10.4.11 @ 7:29PM

Perrygate?

Unbelieveable.

somnolence| 10.4.11 @ 7:25AM

NONE of them, including Mr. Paul will eradicate the 16th Amendment, nor will it be repealed in our lifetime. Dream on within your realm on that one. Cain will support the nominee of the party. Grow up and develop a tougher exterior, all you oversensitive souls.

donserge| 10.4.11 @ 7:25AM

Number 10 would be that he possesses common sense, a welcome addition to DC as many of the candidates plus most of those already elected do not.

Clinton| 10.4.11 @ 7:29AM

Cain didn't recover "appropriately" he lied. He may have never held political office, but he's proving he's better at the game than the real conservatives in the race Perry, Bachmann, Gingrich and Santorum.

He throws out the charge then makes some half-ass statement that he wasn't attacking Perry. LIAR. It is the typical race bating tactics of Jesse Jackson and the Democrats.

Cain owes Perry a personal apology and he should apologize to Republican voters for acting like a Democrat.

IX-XI| 10.4.11 @ 9:25AM

Dear Clinton, if you have Gingrich in your list of "real conservatives," then I encourage you to watch this 31-second YouTube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154

Any "conservative" that can sit on the couch with San Fran Nan and lie to us about Global Warming and the urgent need to shut down America's economy for the sake of "the planet" is not a conservative to me.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 10:19AM

Good point about Newt. His pandering on global warming and refusal to renounce it put him in the same class as Romney on Romneycare and Cain on "race issues."

SpiralArchitect| 10.4.11 @ 7:32PM

Everyone is full of cuts and insults around here, much like the candidates. >:(

Getting rid of Zero is not a solution, it is only changing drivers. Time will show if the direction changes

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 5:23PM

Spiral:

I like you. ;-) Much must be said to piss me off. You are usually full of good sense.

loulou| 10.4.11 @ 10:44AM

I'd like to see Cain apologize to Perry. Not that I like Perry--he's pro illegal immigration. A deal breaker for me.

Southern_Comment| 10.4.11 @ 10:54PM

Perry is not pro illegal immigration. Please look closer at his record in Texas. He's not at all about pro illegal immigration.

somnolence| 10.4.11 @ 7:34AM

I'd have to think twice about voting for someone like Perry who was stupid enough to leave the epithet on the rock as long as he did. They all engage in biting comments, and will continue to do so as the campaign roll on. Get used to it. Meanwhile, at least Cain articulates an economic policy while Perry merely extolls job creation within Texas (many of which are minimum wage jobs and which illegals take up). Once again, I detect crybabies in our midst.

Sean| 10.4.11 @ 1:23PM

I am a huge critic of Perry, but not yet on this one. He stated he immediately told his parents to do something about it. Unless something new comes out on it this is a non issue.

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 6:04PM

You are correct. The media kerfuffle over the name and Cain's reaction is, to me, evidence of how frightened they are at both of them. Cain/Perry or Perry/Cain anyone? Although Perry Cain does sound like some kind of a topical anesthetic.

Corey| 10.6.11 @ 10:07AM

I thought that too lol

Cain/Perry it is

Nite| 10.4.11 @ 10:06PM

This was NOT Perry's property. He paid so much to hunt on the property, thus it is called a "Hunting Lease". He hadn't hunted there in several years. Cain jumped in before he had full information and trashed Perry. In the meantime, you are doing your share of trashing. The jobs created in TX came from a lot of companies moving in from other states, and these were not minimum wage jobs. You obviously know nothing about TX.

somnolence| 10.4.11 @ 7:35AM

Cain owes an apology to NO ONE.

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Typical Ron Paul supporter...

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And inhaling.

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Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 10:28AM

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Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 11:51AM

Clint,

I hate to break it to you, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest that Cain is doing well at the expense of Perry.

Since joining the race, Perry has not lived-up to the reputation he has in Texas.

Oh, well...That's his problem, not mine.

Unlike you, I'm not a "fan" of any particular candidate. I don't have a "crush" on any of them, like you do for Ron Paul, and if the one or two that I prefer doesn't get the nomination, I'll survive.

I won't pout, or threaten to join some idiotic 3rd-Party to make some vague point that ends-up re-electing Obama.

But what will YOU do, Clint, when Ron Paul loses the nomination?

How will you survive?

...I think we know.

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As usual, Dr Right is, well, Right.

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Drunken Sailor| 10.4.11 @ 3:25PM

He will take his Ron paul blow up doll and retreat to his mothers basement.

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Ricky PerryAlgore Cheerleader| 10.4.11 @ 11:46AM

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Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 1:47PM

Clint, you NEVER disappoint!

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irish19| 10.4.11 @ 6:07PM

"Reagan's name was also Ron, but Reagan was a neo-con."
That would actually make a good chant for you lot. Can any of you make papier mache heads?

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:35AM

That bit on Reagan was quite humorous. I see the brilliant hand of Dr Right in this.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 1:27PM

Indeed you do, sir. I stand in awe of your debating brilliance, Mr. Bot. My goodness, the way you slash all of my arguments to pieces like that. Wow!

Southern_Comment| 10.4.11 @ 10:56PM

Can we sue him for not posting a warning first to don sunglasses for the upcoming brilliance?

Drunken Sailor| 10.4.11 @ 3:49PM

My good friend Paul-bot. My condolences on the soon to be passing of your canidates campaign.

"In addition to Perry, Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul established new low Positive Intensity Scores this week, at 5 and 3, respectively. Bachmann was among the highest-rated candidates in June, peaking at 24, but has seen a steady decline since she posted a score of 20 in Aug. 1-14 tracking. Paul has not been rated as positively, with a high of 16 in May, and has registered in the single digits in all but one update since late May.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149.....m_term=All Gallup Headlines - Politics

A positive intensity score of 3???? Maybe his impeachment motion will help him.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 5:54PM

Whatever you do, Clint, after Ron Paul gets his tail ruthlessly kicked in the primaries, remember to grab your "Hello Kitty" Lunchbox and your propeller beanie with one hand and your favorite Jihadist's hand in the other and go skipping off into the Sunset singing "Tomorrow" from Annie.

" Paul Bots will be kicked, Tommorrow,
Bet your bottom dollar that Tomorrow,
Paul Bots will eat Scum.

"Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Paul Loses Tomorrow, it's only a day away."

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 6:10PM

"Bachmann was among the highest-rated candidates in June, peaking at 24, but has seen a steady decline since she posted a score of 20 in Aug. 1-14 tracking. Paul has not been rated as positively, with a high of 16 in May, and has registered in the single digits in all but one update since late May."
And Hunstman is also fading fast. This is the reason why we do this. We must choose our own candidates, and not let the lib media, or the establishment Rs choose for us. We must vette the candidates properly, and choose a conservative. If it takes voting on the convention floor, then so be it. I would actually prefer it that way.

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 4:59PM

Ron, 5 Jews have just won Hard Science Nobels, including one Israeli. Sorry to rain on your parade.

I'm sorry, Paul.Bot is a joke. I mean, Clint and Jack, sorry to rain on your scumminess.

Jack in Wi.| 10.5.11 @ 7:53PM

I don't care how many Jews won prizes. They are massive flops in running this economy and foreign policy of this country. They flopped running Germany, in the 20's. They flopped running Russia under Communism. They are massive and hated flops in the Middle East.

The great Catholic historian Belloc liked and repected the accomplishments of Jews over the centuries. But he pointed out that everytime they get too much power it turns out bad for the Jews and everyone else. Maybe a little more humility would do you Jews a little good.

RCV| 10.6.11 @ 3:00PM

Oh yes, Communism was really great for "the Jews". By the way, the big boss, Josef Stalin, was not a Jew and in fact was a rather paranoid antisemite (not unlike yourself). Second, "the Jews" running Germany during Weimar (they were in fact a small minority of the ruling party) did a hell of a lot better than the Aryans who took over and plunged the world into horror. And finally, the Jews running Israel are doing a pretty damn good job compared to the Muslims running every state surrounding it.

Take this from an Anglican - crawl back under your rock, you Nazi bastard.

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:37AM

When you show the slightest trace of intelligence, Jack, I'll be more humble, promise.

wheat3000| 10.10.11 @ 8:19PM

So, everybody - I take it this guy Jack in Wi is one of these "racist liberal crackpots" you folks are droning on about?

Disgusting to think that conservatives can't recognize (or are unwilling to admit to) the evil in their own ranks.

oke e doke| 10.5.11 @ 11:22PM

did you forget to take your pills today ??

POST American| 10.4.11 @ 7:44AM

"--Cain is certainly a little better than
Perry or Romney --but, at the end of the
day, just another estabishment hack
--bought and paid for."
-ALEX JONES

---------------------------AMEN---------------------------

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 6:06PM

Hey bud,
Alex Jones is bought and paid for.. but by whom?
Whatever he's selling isn't of God.. Herman Cain on the other hand. He's my brother.. in the Lord Jesus Christ.

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 6:12PM

"but by whom"
Maybe the space aliens and shadow people you mentioned last week?

Maddox| 10.4.11 @ 7:52AM

A man who takes the word of liberal media hacks and uses misstated facts as truth in an attack on a fellow candidate is no better than the liar we have in office now. I will not vote for anyone who uses false race baiting, he must be another RHINO.

Dan Hirsch| 10.4.11 @ 2:16PM

Lester? Is that you? If you watch the clip of Christianne Amanpour, SHE brought up the N*head thing. Cain said, "If that's true...some people will consider it offensive." He did not accept Amanpour's proposition that Perry was culpable. He did not say he's offended.

I am disappointed the people here who seem so quick to ascribe Jesse Jackson style race-baiting to Herman Cain based on blurbs from mainstream media. When do we, the AS populus, accpet info from the MSM so readily.

Not good, people, not good.

Do your homework - and re-read Mr. Goldstein. He's right - you are being played as suckers by those afraid of Herman Cain's candidacy. Who would that be? Maybe our little President won't look so sharp next to Herman Cain. I think BHO will look small, squeaky, and like the little dilettante he is. And that's how most of Americans will see him. If BHO is not afraid of a Cain candidacy, he's a bigger idiot than we all thought...

DTOM

idalily| 10.4.11 @ 2:45PM

THIS

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 6:13PM

??????

Nite| 10.4.11 @ 10:13PM

Cain was also asked by Chris Wallace, and his reply was that the name was just vile and leaving the name on the rock was insensitive.

Nite| 10.4.11 @ 10:14PM

Actually he added some other comments essentially playing the race card against Perry.

P. Arthurson| 10.4.11 @ 7:57AM

He is not a lawyer (at least, I don't think so)

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 10:24AM

No but he is black and like Democrats some conservatives think that is a reason to support him. Same old vulgar race based politics of the Democrat party. Who cares what color or gender a candidate is? For those pushing Cain's blackness as a reason to vote for him you're no better than the Democrats. This was done in 2008 and it was a major mistake. Support Cain for other reasons, but leave skin color out of the equation. Republicans are better than that and our candidates are better than playing the race card or at least should be if "there going to be the grown ups in the room" (a dumb ass statement if ever there was one).

Christine Lewis| 10.4.11 @ 11:05AM

No, not a lawyer.. he is mathematician.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 5:56PM

A mathematics B.S. from Morehouse, and has a Master's in Computer Science. He took tough courses.

aware| 10.4.11 @ 7:58AM

How pathetic. There is really no conception here of the magnitude of the calamity we are about to experience. Nothing Cain has said gives me confidence that he understands it either.

See this: http://grandfather-economic-re.....bt-nat.htm

Do you think he could have turned around these Burger Kings if they had a couple hundred million dollars in debt that was about to come due? If the debt is impossible to pay, and ours most assuredly is, then it will be defaulted on. There is no 3rd possibility(trying to inflate the debt away is actually default by other means). You had better start considering what a default means as a nation and as individuals.

And do you really believe one man, no matter how good, can turn back an entire system built on promises and debt? I hope you get the man(or woman) you want in the pilot's seat but it won't keep the plane from hitting the mountain at this point. We are at the end game of the grand Keynesian experiment and the twilight of the Welfare State.

Dan Hirsch| 10.4.11 @ 2:21PM

aware;

Conservatives and people of faith are usually optimistic, yet realistic. You must not remember the recovery of the early 1980's. The late 70's were bad, not as bad as this. The recovery was exhilarating, once it got going. I say, we will be back, and it will be fun.

IF WE GET RID OF OBAMA... if we don't, you are way too optimistic...

DTOM

aware| 10.4.11 @ 5:33PM

Yeah, I remember. And soon you will remember these as "the good old days". There is absolutely no comparison on any level you pick between then and now. Sure Carter was bad but no Obama. Republicans don't have a Reagan now, no matter how much many try to make one.

Look at the chart I posted, the debt level in '80 and the level now. At federal spending then and now. Notice there are no "waves" in either line, just increasingly vertical lines.

Banks were sound then, now they are zombies needing large infusions of federal cash. If unemployment was tallied the same way it was then you'd have a current rate of 16.5%. Then the middle/working class was strapped, now they face the possibility of extinction.

This is the result of a systematic plan that has been in operation long before Obama. He certainly has more gusto at implementing it but nobody, including Republicans or "conservatives", has ever dismantled a piece of it. I can only conclude either through incompetence or dishonesty there is no real opposition to the Leviathan State. So it has a life of its own and will grow, take more, and do more regardless of who "runs" it. It may speed up and slow down but it NEVER flows in the other direction. But like everything with a life of its own, it will have a death of its own too. Unsustainability ends abruptly. That end is a given, the question is what comes after.

John Barleycorn| 10.4.11 @ 8:06AM

You've got it all wrong, Aaron. The eminent Ross Kaminsky has already explained that 9-9-9 simply won't work because it politicians would just make it 15-15-15 or whatever they wanted. He explains that a flat income tax is the only solution to our ills and that somehow, (magically it seems, since he never explains how), that flat income tax rate would be insulated from change by those same grubby politicians who would immediately start mucking with the 9-9-9 rates.

Paul| 10.6.11 @ 6:21PM

And just what would insulate a flat income tax from being jacked up by the government? A flat tax amounts to fiat confiscation of one's income. That is, the individual MUST pay whatever Congress decides and there is no way to avoid the tax. How is that superior to a consumption tax, which can be avoided? (Hint: it's NOT)

Teaghan| 10.4.11 @ 8:10AM

mr/mrs aware, what the heck do you suggest then?

axbucxdu| 10.4.11 @ 1:02PM

Beans in the basement, burlap sacks, and lead, lots of it.

aware| 10.4.11 @ 2:15PM

And silver stacks if you have money. The situation may stagger along a while like this(or not) but will rapidly deteriorate without warning when the time comes. This you can count on: no politician is going to save you or prevent what is inevitable.

axbucxdu| 10.4.11 @ 10:55PM

Make no mistake aware, I wasn't joking. It looked as if Teaghan was realizing these possibilities for the first time. And yes, ALL governments fail eventually, even progressive ones.

aware| 10.5.11 @ 5:34AM

Oh believe me I didn't think you were. Many refuse to see what is glaring at this point. They are wasting valuable prep time.

Kung| 10.6.11 @ 12:52AM

So don't vote then. If you think the sky is falling, there really isn't any point for you to leave your bunker.

Larry| 10.8.11 @ 3:51AM

Well..One point to not voting..You can righfuly say to everyone that did.."You did this"

Cisco Kid| 10.4.11 @ 8:20AM

Way to go, Mr. G., strong endorsement. Look out, though -- this kind of editorial brings out the loonies, as you can already see so early in the day. It's much too soon for veep schemes, but a Cain-Christie, a Cain-Rubio, a Cain-West (Florida is giving us men of character these days, too bad for the state party messing up the primaries), Cain-Guiliani, Cain-Bloomberg (they disagree on some issues but you'd be surprised when two successful self made men strike the right chemistry...), and many other options (Cain-Lieberman, bring out all the bigots such as above..., Cain-Eastwood, if he can reach back and retrieve his law and order instincts) already come to mind.
The character content point is surely the strongest; it is already being tested. In any case, one very useful service Mr. Cain is performing consists of showing up the other GOP candidates' intellectual or moral shallowness. This is not to sound like one of these snob NYTimes-reading bigots who put down the conservatives as "anti-intellectual," only to point out how inarticulate they in fact have been so far.

Clinton| 10.4.11 @ 8:24AM

Obviously, Cain's supporters don't think he's man enough to apologize for playing Jesse Jackson.

Implying someone is a racist is far worse than "biting comments." He knew exactly what he was doing and that's why he should apologize to Perry and the American people for acting like a black liberation preacher and then lying about what he did.

The difference between Rick Perry and Herman Cain is Perry has a proven record of successfull governing. Cain doesn't. As for busineess experience Romney's record is more impressive so if that's a reason to vote for a candidate then support Romeny. All Cain can do is act like another inexperienced black guy running for President and make baseless charges based on a liberal newspaper story while his adoring followers tell us why we should vote for an inexperienced and charismatic black guy who sometimes makes a good speech.

As for his economic policy it is a recipe for disaster. Educate yourself before swallowing the kool-aid. Cain is promising to do what Obama can only dream of by his regressive tax; turn America into a European welfare state. How many Cain supporters know his 9-9-9 has "empowerment zones" for inner cities? Could that be raced based for a special interest group? Wonder which one if it is? How long does anyone believe it will stay 9-9-9? You're income taxes and the national sales tax could easily be 50-50-50 in short order.
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....williamson

Herman Cain is smelling more and more like a con artist. That's all we need another Obama.

Dan Hirsch| 10.4.11 @ 2:22PM

Clinton;

When will Ron Paul be introducing the Articles of Impeachment?

We are waiting....

DTOM

Drunken Sailor| 10.4.11 @ 3:27PM

That's easy Dan.

Just as soon as he runs it past his buddy Kucinich.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:28PM

Perfect.

RCV| 10.5.11 @ 2:16PM

You mean Ron Paul, President and Founder of the AQCLU? (Al Qaeda Civil Liberties Union)

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 5:01PM

And HACLU. (Hamas Civilivl Liberties Union.)

Paul is an execrable Piece of Purulence.

JimH| 10.4.11 @ 8:32AM

I don’t know his positions on all the issues, and of the ones I do know I don’t fully agree with them all. That said, I like his background, his intelligence and his ability to not take himself too seriously. I have concerns about a national sales tax as it creates such large incentives to evade it. I do like the moves on corporate and personal income tax. Unless I missed something, all I heard him say on Fox regarding Perry was that insensitivity was shown. And this is certainly true. No one has to think that Perry is himself a racist to realize that in these PC times it was not smart to leave that N*head sign in place. There is no perfect candidate, but looking at both the man himself and his electability I’d have to say I like Cain. There may be hope for the GOP when there is a candidate that Aaron, Margie and I can agree on. Has M. Razor been heard from on Cain?

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 1:39PM

Yes, repeatedly, Jim. I have said I support Cain. I have said that an ideal ticket is Cain/West or West/Cain.

Let me put it this way. I dislike Paul and Johnson (interestingly, I was Paul's constituent and lived in NM shortly after Johnson destroyed Mental Health Care in the State), Paul mostly intellectually and personally, Johnson personally and professionally. I fail to distinguish them from Obama on the most important issue of all: Defense. I think they would get my children killed.

As a UTMB out of State grad, and a father of two Hispanic adoptees (legal), Perry's views on immigration and tuition piss me off. Two percent of all American babies are born to illegals in LA County. That's a lot. I won't campaign for him in the primaries, but I'd vote for him against Obama. But he fails to see that we need to control our borders. We should be cutting off ALL aid to illegals, including Medical.

Romney is too liberal, but he's better than Obama. I'd vote for him over Obama.

Bachmann is my favorite. If I thought she had a chance, I'd donate money to her. If she does get her second wind, I'll be donating and volunteering.

Cain may win this thing. If he does, I'll donate money , volunteer, and vote for him.

I think that covers my views. Pretty much what Margie/Victor plans to do, I think.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:02PM

R. Paul & Johnson don't have a prayer. LOL. thankfully.

And yes, we are rooting for Herman Cain, but whichever Repubbie gets the nominee, as always, we're voting Republican.

The others can cry baby into their bowls of soup and stay home, or place their stupid, and I mean STUPID vote for a write-in~~ and then suffer through four more years of the abomination that is making desolate this country.

Imagine though: Cain/West or West/Cain.
Double barrel, double your pleasure, double your SERIOUS BUSINESS! (STRONG MILITARY DEFENSE).

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 6:19PM

Not sure I'd be in favor of the combination. I think I'd rather keep one waiting in the wings for the next go-round.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:04PM

Kudos, dude!

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:28PM

That was to JimH.

JimH| 10.4.11 @ 8:32AM

Sorry - Mr. Razor

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.4.11 @ 8:52AM

I'm sorry folks.

I simply cannot seem to warm up to Mr. Cain, or at least not at this point. I've gone and listened to some of his speeches on youtube...can't connect with the man.
Conversely Colonel West out of Florida always makes me grin...and often cheer.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 2:55PM

You can't warm up to Cain because he's too real for you.

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 6:19PM

Are you saying West isn't real?

abdullah shabazz| 10.4.11 @ 8:54AM

He lost it when he played the race card on Perry. We dont need somebody like Sharpton, even if he's articualte bright and clean.

And give Rev Sharpton his due. When he plays the race card, he doesnt lie about it the next day.

IX-XI| 10.4.11 @ 9:00AM

I'm a big Cain fan--ever since 9/12.

I don't think 9-9-9 is anything close to workable. It is a good stick to beat the Democraps with, but it will never become law, and if it did it would cause as many problems as it solves.

But I'm still a flat tax guy. I prefer setting the income tax at 20 percent and leaving it there permanently. I favor switching SocSec, Medicaid and Medicare from "defined benefit" to "defined contribution" plans, and outlawing deficit spending in any of them. If they run out of funds, they have to divvy up what they have among the recipients. No way can we tell our children, "I paid 7 percent of my income my whole life, so that entitles me to 30 percent of yours." That's just dishonest and unfair.

Better to tell them, "I got suckered by Bernie Madoff Roosevelt and his party and lost my dough. But I'm not going to make you suffer for it."

If we could get to that place, 9-9-9 would be more than adequate for the nation's needs. But there is a yawning chasm of political impossibility between here and there.

idalily| 10.4.11 @ 2:52PM

Any flat/fair tax would have to replace Federal Income Tax, be tied to GDP, and be in conjunction with a balanced budget amendment, a deficit pay-off plan and a plan to deal with/and-or eliminate SS and Medicare. Anything less is just more of the same BS, and therefore useless. IOW, a fair or flat tax will never happen.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 9:02AM

Big Tony you assume if Herman Cain is elected and his 9-9-9 passed (unlikely at those rate) the 16th Amendment will be repealed (a very long shot).

If Herman Cain is elected and he gets "9-9-9" through Congress you can expect that to be the nation's tax system for a long time if not a lifetime, but you can expect 9-9-9 to go up immediately, because Cain's math is wrong.

Repealing a Constitutional amendment is not an easy thing and despite your trust in Cain the reality is he's blowing smoke calling his plan revenue neutral. It doen't even fund the government at 2008 levels (the standard he used for 9-9-9). Congress is not going to readily embrace a system that fails to fund the government at even the generous 2008 levels. Sadly, the majority of Americans paticularly the fiscal conservatives aren't going to accept that, because they're fixated on deficits and those identified with the Tea Party overwhelmingly support Obama, Romney, Bachmann, Santorum and Cain on keeping the entitlement Ponzi scheme status quo.

If Cain were forthright or understood our system he'd actually be selling 18-18-18. The Heritage Foundation notes that the 3-year average level of federal tax receipts as a percentage of GDP is about 18%. Thus, that is more likely the rate Congress will adopt if it goes for Cain's "plan." I'm guessing Warrne Buffett's secretary would be reluctant to pay an 18% Federal income tax and a 18% Federal national sales tax on top of her state and local taxes.

Since a national sales tax or so-called fair tax is a hidden tax it is not only regressive, but subject to manipulation and being raised with little public fanfare. How much is your state gas tax? How many people want to pay an additional 9% or realisticly 18% on the house or property they're buying? Slap that on to a new or used car too. Where does it stop. How about groceries, medications or whatever you like? What is going to be subject to this massive tax? Talk about killing consumer spending (70% of the US economy). Cain in this instance seems to agree with Obama who wants to raise taxes on property transfers, etc..

The only people who will benefit from the Cain plan are bureaucrats and those who live in the inner cities and get special treatment. Why they deserve it and rural families don't is perplexing.

American's, even liberals in northern VA seem open to a flat tax so why not have a two tier system that lowers rates, but taxes the really rich (not the upper middle-class who make $250,000.00, but the super rich who make over $8 million at the Warren Buffett level). Then Americans know exactly what the government is taking from them. Unless we directly feel the pain Democrats and bureaucrats will insure our taxes go up and up and up. A hidden tax is a dangerous tax and smacks of the very crap our forefathers rebeled against when we broke with Britain.

Stefan Stackhouse| 10.4.11 @ 12:54PM

The sales tax in the Cain plan would be to replace the 15.3% payroll tax. It amazes me that so many of you are so in love with that payroll tax. Personally, I curse it.

Ronald Reagan said that if you want more of something, you subsidize it, and if you want less of something, you tax it. We're taxing employment, so is it any wonder that we've got less of it? Over 9% unemployment per the "official" count, and we all know how doubtful that number is. People keep screaming about jobs and wanting the government to "do something". Well, here is the one and only thing that the government really could and should do that is effective: stop taxing employment. That will actually create lots of new jobs.

A big part of our economy is that it is all about borrowing and consuming rather than saving and investing. Replacing a payroll tax with a sales tax would definitely help turn us around and start us heading in the right direction. Some of the changes in the Cain plan for personal and corporate income taxes would help, too.

We are at sea in a leaky boat that has been patched and re-patched and patched over patches, and the motor is sputtering. We can continue to tinker around some more with this worthless thing, or we can build ourselves a new boat.

Pecos Pete| 10.4.11 @ 9:05AM

Anybody but King O for our next president. All of the Republican candidates should be pointing at King O, not the other Republicans. Stop bad mouthing each other and start explaining how King O is ruining the USA.

Deborah D | 10.4.11 @ 10:42AM

Thank you, Pete! I'm so sick of this one saying, "I won't for so and so because of blank." I have my favorite, but I'll vote for Perry or Romney or anyone else on that stage. We must be rid of Obama -- the country will collapse -- just look at his executive branch: EPA, HHS, Justice, Energy, Education -- everywhere you look scary leftists are killing the country at a rapid pace. We don't have time for this adolescent fighting.

axbucxdu| 10.4.11 @ 1:13PM

Nah. The most important thing we can do in the next election cycle is make whoever is elected to the presidency irrelevant. Attaining super majorities of constitutional conservatives in both houses of Congress trumps the presidency.

Of course the media is interested in the Rethug presidential follies. Their reporting of it distracts the conservative base from the real prize: Congress!

Based on the fevered discussions here of late about which candidate best represents conservative views, it appears the MSM efforts are successful.

irish19| 10.4.11 @ 6:22PM

"The most important thing we can do in the next election cycle is make whoever is elected to the presidency irrelevant. Attaining super majorities of constitutional conservatives in both houses of Congress trumps the presidency."
What a pleasant thought.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 9:11AM

Pecos you have a point, but if Romney, Bachmann, Santorum, Paul and Cain didn't attack Rick Perry (despite being a poor debater) he'd be a shoe-in for the nomination and we could be focusing our ire on Obama and the Democrats who've brought our nation to the brink of ruin since 2006.

Old Soldier| 10.4.11 @ 9:32AM

You sure about Romney? Who else has the campaign cash to research every moment of Perry's past? If the Democrats had dirt, they would wait until Perry had the nomination.

Michael Tomlinson| 10.4.11 @ 10:35AM

Old Soldier who knows Romney could be behind the "N*****head" story, but I think Democrats fear Perry the most and are trying to keep him from getting the nomination and if he does hope he's damaged enough that Obama can squeak by. They tried this on Reagan in 1980 too. Didn't work.

If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd say Cain is nothing more than a stalking horse for Romney who he supported in 2008. You know take out the only viable conservative running against him who has been a successful Governor and created jobs despite the Obama depression. The only candidate, despite rhetoric, has governed as a conservative. The one with a record that makes Obama's record look terrible.

Since I'm not a conspiracy theorist I think Cain was just playing dirty. He was opportunistic playing racial politics as have the majority of black politicians in the US. I think Perry is big enough to handle his slurs and will move forward knowing the real target is Barack Obama.

IX-XI| 10.4.11 @ 9:15AM

By the way, telling benefit recipients we don't have the money to continue giving them handouts is not the same as defaulting on our debt.

Our debt and our promised benefit load are two different things. You must service the debt. It is highly desirable to beneficiaries that you, the government, continue cutting the checks, but stopping them doesn't downgrade the debt rating.

Quite the opposite: it shows the nation's leaders have the ability to distinguish between obligations and unrealistic promises. We should NEVER default on our debt obligations. As for the rest of the promises, most of them made by deceptive politicians attempting to bribe constituencies, all bets are off.

It is very, very likely that whoever is president in the next 4-year term will be faced with exactly this choice and will be forced to either jack up taxes immediately, cut off benefits, default, or run the printing presses.

It's imperative that we don't get anyone inclined to do option 4. As I see it, cutting spending is the only option we have. Expropriating wealth from "the rich" will just cause vast hordes who still have jobs to lose them, and increase the nation's suffering.

It is time to admit that the welfare state has run its course worldwide. It creates dependence in an exact 1:1 ratio as it saps initiative, drive and responsibility and thus kills its host economy.

It has run aground in Greece, Portugal, Ireland and soon, Italy, Spain, England and the rest of Europe, followed closely by the United States.

The sooner we learn the lessons of Greece, the more able we will be to choose our fate rather than have the iron law of the market choose it for us.

Nancy in NC| 10.4.11 @ 9:16AM

Wow, I think we should snipe and throw stone and bricks at every GOP candidate, thus guaranteeing a return of Obummer to the White House.

Folks, there's a lot at stake here. Regardless of our personal agenda we must be willing to stand behind any candidate the GOP nominates. Surely none of them will hold a candle to the obnoxious piece of crap currently at the head. Do you think any would be playing racism games like Holder? (Be sure to read Quinn's article.) Do you think any of them would be as totally into crony capitalism and repeat a Solyandra escapade? Do you think of them would be as Marxist as the present regime?

Sure, we all want the perfect candidate. It ain't going to happen. We need to stop being our own worst enemies.

When you have a sitting POTUS that starts making Jimmy Carter look good you have real problems.

Remember, we are electing a president, not a king. We need to start working on electing representatives and Senators that will work on holding the wolves at bay.

Also, all of us need to get involved in our school boards and hold them accountable. Only a stupid electorate would ever vote for someone like Obama.

emilio lizardo, PhD| 10.4.11 @ 9:29AM

Word

IX-XI| 10.4.11 @ 9:44AM

I think I speak for a vast majority when I say that even if ROMNEY gets the nomination, I'll still go all out for him next year.

The worst RINO is better than what we've got now.

Thankfully I think Romney and his money are going to founder on the rocks of the Tea Party, and I'll be doing my best to help that happen. How is it that the two Mormons are the least conservative? I'm Mormon and Tea Party to the core--and I'm working hard against both Romney and Huntsman, as are all the politically active Mormons I know (that aren't Democraps).

We believe this election is going to the GOP candidate, so we're looking for the most conservative one. Sarah Palin isn't running. Herman Cain is, and so is Rick Santorum and so is Michele Bachmann.

We are working toward the nomination of one of these. We'll see if Cain has more staying power than Bachmann, and if Santorum is able to build a more powerful surge than Cain over time.

Not much time left for Santorum, though. If he were to break into the top tier I'd go all out for him. I love the man, and think he'd make a great president. But if voting for him makes a Romney or Perry nomination more likely then sorry, Rick and sorry, Michele. My vote goes to the most electable conservative. Right now it appears to be Herman Cain. We'll see if he has staying power or if he fades.

The conservative with the most staying power will benefit as the other conservatives drop out of the race and throw their endorsements his/her way.

I'd love for that person to be Santorum but I'll take whichever one of them is in the best position when the nominating contests start.

Any of them will be a massive improvement on Romney or Perry, so whichever one appears to be the "conservative frontrunner" is the one who will receive my primary vote.

datameister| 10.5.11 @ 5:24PM

Word.

Take ACTION. Now is the time. 13 months will pass faster than you think.

And prepare for all out invective and hostility from the left and the media. Stand Up, Speak Up - and know that for each of one of you, there are 10 more behind you in support.

elmo| 10.4.11 @ 9:27AM

No thanks, I'll vote for Perry in Fl primary and hopefully the general election.

somnolence| 10.4.11 @ 9:45AM

I only no that one candidate besides Paul I would never vote for would be Christie. No way, SHAPE, or form, would I ever consider voting for Chris Christie. Not with his statements on assault weapons, and softness on Islam. I have never seen such foolishness of late on the part of the media in literally begging Christie to run, and turning a blind eye to Palin. To hell with the GOP hierarchy and their allies in the media. Remember McCain not so long ago?

loulou| 10.4.11 @ 10:50AM

Christie is barely a Republican. A RINO at best.

Beau Blotz| 10.4.11 @ 12:06PM

CHristie is the NE Establishment guy the RINOs want since Huntsweenie has flopped and Daniels said no. These are the same jokers who got McQueeg and keep on telling us the so-called Moderates can win. They don't.

IX-XI| 10.4.11 @ 9:53AM

The thing I like about Christie is his understanding of the fiscal emergency we face, and his willingness to go straight at the vested interests.

If he were president I would worry about his softness on global warming and "women's issues" as well as gay marriage and a host of other causes that are, um...not dear to my heart.

But it sure would be nice to see him take it to Van Jones and the professional unionist malcontent left as he cuts off their benefits and asks them point blank what makes them think they're entitled to rip off taxpayers who earn less than they do.

On the positive side, I think Christie would sign the repeal of Obamacare and pretty much whatever a GOP Congress sends him.

On the dangerous side are the SCOTUS nominees likely from a Christie. That's why I'm supporting the Most Viable Conservative on Primary Day, whoever that winds up being--Cain, Bachmann, Santorum.

Sheila| 10.4.11 @ 10:11AM

Right-liberal non-racist republicans find their own magic negro. Herman Cain says he'd update "Hail to the Chief" and give it a more "gospel beat" - http://www.amren.com/mtnews/ar.....in_hai.php

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:12PM

So... we're Right-liberal if we're for Herman Cain?
Oh, that's right. It's Shelia speaking. Sheila is one of those Paleo-con artists? A Female Toddard.
Right? No one's good enough for Sheila.

Drunken Sailor| 10.4.11 @ 3:30PM

You said it Margie. I'm still trying to figure out what a Right-Liberal is? Is that the new term for RINO? I think she has her party affiliation and ideology confused.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:43PM

Sheila's a self proclaimed White Nationalist.
As to the Hail to the Chief thingy: BIG DEAL!

Drunken Sailor| 10.4.11 @ 4:00PM

Maybe she is dating Clint. That would make anyone cranky.

Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 4:14PM

I...don't think so.

Drunken Sailor| 10.4.11 @ 4:24PM

I get your point Dr. Wrong team. His sister maybe?

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 8:10PM

Sheila just depises anyone who's not a white European.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 6:06PM

Sheila, note well...never come near my children, maggot. And keep your friends Jack and Clint away, as well.

somnolence| 10.4.11 @ 10:30AM

Come to think of it the sonorous tones of "Hail To The Chief" do sound very stiff at times. With all the fuss about the Star Spangled Banner over the years by naysayers, and its varied interpretations before ball games , I think Cain's assertion about "Hail To The Chief" is very refreshing.

Seek| 10.4.11 @ 12:42PM

"Hail to the Chief" is based on an Scots melody, with new lyrics added nearly two centuries ago. Making it into a hip-hop or gospel number would de-Celt the song. That won't do.

RealityBites| 10.4.11 @ 10:44AM

Mr. Cain has one sterling characteristic that is lacking (and sorely needed) in all other candidates for the presidency. He is INSPIRATIONAL. His background, his achievements, his ideals, his demeanor; they all inspire others to work hard and press on. He is the embodiment of the American dream.

datameister| 10.5.11 @ 5:35PM

Perry has a similar up-from-the-bootstraps upbringing, but with a different career path out of college.

To that difference, I prefer Herman Cain. For now I'm staying with that horse. He may be the "difference" this country needs right now.

Joe D.| 10.4.11 @ 11:30AM

Mr. Goldstein a great article about a great American up until number 9. We need to shrink government not find other income to help it continue. We either pay income taxes or sales taxes not both. And we need a mechanium to protect us from changes every minute like in europe. They need to learn to live on a budget or shrink like they did before 1965.

Drunken Sailor| 10.4.11 @ 11:34AM

Maybe it's just me but the whole Ni****head story seems to be working as intended. Look at all the venom being spit back and forth between Perry and Cain supporters. I'm in a strange place because I like both.

Do not any of see that the whole story only quoted people that claimed Perry was racist but wouldn't put their names to it? While all of the people saying Perry took pains to paint over or obliterate the offensive language were willing to put their names on it?

And does the othe side not see that Cain said the words were insensitive. He did not come out and call Perry racist. He called him insensitive. Sure I think he jumped the shark still but give him some credit for not playing the whole card.

With arguing like this is it any wonder the Democrats think they have this election still won?

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.4.11 @ 11:42AM

Governor Perry Should Say: “None of Your Damned Business!”
If our Legislature wants to give long term Texas residents, and high-school graduates in-State tuition to Texas colleges….It is OUR damned business.
Hey! We can afford it! We can afford fifty or sixty honor students at reduced tuition. Why? Because we in Texas reward “do-ers” instead of welfare-slobs and public union thugs.
You folks who live in tiddly-wink States might want to take a lesson. Encourage bright hard-working young people, whatever their surnames might be.
Many of these young people have…and will…re-locate to Mexico and south…with a deep appreciation of Texas and the education they got here.
Many people in tiddly-wink States do not have a clue about our Texas impact on international business. Many of our “trading partners” got their education here….DUH!
Hey, I’ve got an idea. Why don’t you tiddly-winkers find and elect Governors and Legislators that will clean up the messes in your own States, and let Texans govern Texas.

If you are EXTREMELY fortunate, you might elect a reasonable President who
who has successfully “ridden herd” on ungovernable Texans for ten years.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 1:44PM

Dear Ken,

I went to TCU for four years, and then went to UTMB, paying out of state rates. I don't believe illegal aliens should be given preferential treatment over out of state US Citizens.

Legal aliens who are long term residents of Texas, well, I think that's dumb, but they are legal. Illegals---no. Hell, no. Some of their aid comes from Federal Taxes, so it's my money. They should not get dime one of Federal aid. If Texas wants to shoot itself, let it do so---but not with MY money.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 1:47PM

By the way, Ken, I deeply respect you...but that is NOT the way the "n" word is interpreted in the Black Community. Like I bristle when people other than my closest friends use the "k" word in conversation. That's what I mean.

Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 4:16PM

I know what you mean.

Every time I hear the word "klondike", it makes my blood boil.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 5:59PM

How can I top that, dammit?! ;-)

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:14PM

"Tiddly-Wink states."
Duh.

William Tucker| 10.4.11 @ 11:45AM

I bet $500 a month ago on InTrade that Cain would be the nominee and the President. I stand to make $20,000. Therefore, I'm supporting him all the way.

Seriously, I think Cain is going to win the nomination because the primaries are going to be decided by VOTERS, not pundits. People feel comfortable with Cain. The election, after all, is a question of which candidate you want to have in your living room for the next four years. I also like that Cain is a mathematician because the prime qualification for being a Democrat is not being able to do math. The debt situation may be hopeless but at least we'll have a President who understands that.

As for 9-9-9, I wouldn't get too exercised about it. Remember, all this has to get through Congress and there will be plenty of time for vetting (and a Republican majority to vet it). The important thing is Cain wants to try new things. After four years of Obama, voters are going to be ready for a new departure. The important thing is to present ideas in a way that people can understand. Romney puts out a job plan that runs 153 pages with 127 footnotes. Cain says "9-9-9." Which is the electorate going to grasp?

The one thing I worry about with Cain is that he may have an arrogant streak. People who have made it on their own often feel entitled to be a little arrogant. After a lifetime of struggle, Cain may feel he has a few psychological scores to settle. I hope he recognizes this and reins it in.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.4.11 @ 12:16PM

THE “N” WORD!
During my growing up years, I was aware that my dad had been roommates with a black guy. I was aware that I had a significant “Indian blood” through both my grand parents’ families.

I was aware that my grandmother had to shoot a Comanche off my grandfather’s back…literally.

My only son married a “black girl”. Lovely lady.
Nevertheless,
When my dad wanted to shame me, he said: “Son, that is just pure NIGGERISM!”
I always took that to mean “sloppy and lazy”.
I was also introduced to the term “NIGGER-RICH”. That referred to anyone who took a momentary financial success and lived above his means, whatever his skin color.
So.
My father’s worst term for ANYONE, was “NIGGARDLY”. That was someone who didn’t care for the poor.
So,
The “ N” word had to do with black undertakers taking advantage of poor black families wanting to honor their loved one. The “N” word had to do with sloppyness.
NIGGER…………NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH A PERSON’S SKIN IN MY DAD'S WORLD!
So…………..
May we get the term in context?
…ARE you a nigger?

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:17PM

Isn't gonna happen.
People who use the term these days mean it in one way~ to be nasty and racist.
Just like the Paul-bots and Paleo-con artists use the term Neo-con to describe anybody who isn't anti-war and anti-Israel.
The days of your Dad's are long since gone, may as well forget it.

Beau Blotz| 10.4.11 @ 3:36PM

Niggardly is a Norwegian derived word that means a 'Miser'.

It is unrelated to the other N word.

loulou| 10.4.11 @ 4:05PM

The use of the word "niggardly" is verboten at this point. A perfectly good word can't be used because some morons found it offensive.

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 8:12PM

Sorry, Ken, that may fly in parts of Texas, especially East Texas near the Louisiana border, but most elsewhere it's just downright offensive to any decent person.

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:39AM

Yeah, Ken is occasionally wrong, but he's still loveable.

datameister| 10.5.11 @ 5:55PM

I actually grew up similarly - but in California (boy, let me tell you it was very different here then than it is now).

The understanding and usage of the term was the same here and for me as well.

But, sadly that was then and this is now.

And same for California. We're toast, here. Greco Americana (American Greece). Nothing short of a full meltdown and subsequent revolt will get the socialista machine outta this state, and I see none on the horizon; in fact, it looks like they're getting ready to double down on it. Jiminy Crickets, we returned B. Boxer for another 6 years, and Gov. Moonbeam is back from the 70s for a second round.

We are soooo screwed....Save yourselves while you can. Don't let this happen to you.

Elect as many PROVEN fiscal conservatives at every local, county, state and federal level that you can.

Stefan Stackhouse| 10.4.11 @ 12:40PM

If any of you have a goal to actually show Obama the door on 1/20/13 rather than suffer four more years of him, then there should be one supreme question on your minds:

Which candidate has the best shot of denying Obama states like Florida, Ohio, NC, Virginia, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Colorado?

I submit that any of the current crop of Republican candidates will probably carry states like Texas with no problem, not just Perry. Carrying only the deep red states only guarantees that not just the White House, but the entire economy, remains deep blue for another four years. The damage left behind may be permanent and irrepairable.

Can Herman Cain deprive Obama of some of those key states? We're still in "wait and see" mode here, but it is looking promising. Can Romney do it? Maybe, but it is looking a little more doubtful? How about Perry? I am having real doubts about his ability to flip any blue states to red. Of the three, Cain looks to me to have the best advantages for actually pulling it off. It is strange, and on paper nobody would have ever guessed that he would be more than one of those marginal candidates that enter and leave with nobody ever even noticing. In many ways, though, he is the exact opposite of Perry. Perry looks good on paper, and then he opens his mouth and turns people off. Cain doesn't look so impressive on paper, and then he opens his mouth and turns people on. My gut tells me that it is the latter that is the winning formula.

idalily| 10.4.11 @ 3:00PM

THIS. I was supporting Perry, but only as a fallback position, since I loathe Romney and think Bachman has the same toxicity with Indies as Sarah had and the others haven't got a prayer. Now, I'm supporting Cain, but...

What I really want is this: Newt's brain and eloquent tongue, Perry's gubernatorial expertise, Cain's business acumen, Bachman's Tea Party cred, Alan West's military knowledge, and Romney's...nothing. Can I get that to go, with fries?

Nite| 10.4.11 @ 10:21PM

Can Cain carry TX? Doubtful.

Seek| 10.4.11 @ 12:45PM

Herman Cain is an affirmative action hire. He's a perfect example of the "best black" syndrome so cherished by deluded mainstream Republicans. We tried that strategy by running Alan Keyes for U.S. senator from Illinois in 2004. His opponent? A guy named Barack Obama. That didn't work out too well. And neither will nominating Herman Cain for president.

Dan Hirsch| 10.4.11 @ 2:45PM

Seek;

You are completely uninformed concerning Alan Keyes carpetbagger run in Illinois. He never had a prayer because:

1. He acted truly wacky at points during the campaign: in one radio interview, the interviewer got him to sing a hymn that he particularly liked. Alan has great pipes, but he came across as a buffoon, not a Senator.

2. He never answered the 'why are you running in Illinois?' question.

3. He entered the race very late.

4. He was very underfunded.

I do not think any of these apply to Mr. Cain.

Herman Cain is a serious man, with a serious resume, running a serious campaign.

You should apply "affirmative action" to Barack Obama as he had virtually no sensible experience in anything before his unopposed runs for state legislative offices.

Mr. Cain has turned around at least two significant corporate entities, an act that requires correct, decisive leadership in the face of adversity, financial difficulty, and serious competition. He worked his way to the chairmanship of the Kansas City Federal Reserve. He knows the financial system better than any other candidate out there.

The ignorance displayed by your statement is embarrassing. If you have some facts to back up your characterization of Mr. Cain, bring them on. Maybe I have it wrong. But at least I am bringing facts to the conversation that support my assertions.

Try facts, they'll look good on you.

DTOM

Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 3:12PM

If Herman Cain is an "affirmative action" hire, then WHAT is Obama?

Since you have neither the courage nor the brains to provide an answer, I'll do it for you.

Obama IS "affirmative action".

He's the least qualified man in any room he walks into.

He has been "pushed" through the system his entire life for one reason, and one reason only - he's black.

Obama has actually done anything of substance, other than get millions of patronizing, guilty white liberals to vote for him.

He has NEVER had a real job in the private sector that required him to understand actual work, productivity, profits, or losses.

He's an empty cipher for left-wing slogans and causes, utterly devoid of any practical experience whatsoever.

He's an unaccomplished moron who's actually NOT FIT to work in the mail-room of GODFATHER'S PIZZA.

He's not too bright.

He can't think on his feet.

He's not clever, or quick-witted.

He's a dope.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:18PM

"He's an unaccomplished moron who's actually NOT FIT to work in the mail-room of GODFATHER'S PIZZA."

RIGHT ON!

Drunken Sailor| 10.4.11 @ 3:38PM

Hell, he can't even count. George Stephanopoulos asked him what his 2012 campaign slogan was (instead of hope and change) and he replied. "our vision for the future. That's three words."

George had to tell him that is actually 5 words.
http://www.americanthinker.com.....words.html

loulou| 10.4.11 @ 4:06PM

Conservatives don't do affirmative action.
Get with it.

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.4.11 @ 12:46PM

yOU KNOW,

It's a hell of a note that our only response to a black President is a black competitor.

That is sorta' scary, folks.

HEY...Mr. Cain can't get those votes. Not in a million years.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:19PM

"It's a hell of a note that our only response to a black President is a black competitor."

WHY?

Because that's how YOU look at him?

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:40AM

I'm happy that he is who he is. I want someone that will give my children a good future. If they are green with tentacles but respect and abide by the Constitution and Hayek, they're fine by me.

Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 4:18PM

Why is that?!?!?

Kingofthenet| 10.4.11 @ 1:07PM

I am 100% behind the current President, but I kinda like Herman, he has some real Personality and Energy. He seems happy and not at all angry.

Seek| 10.4.11 @ 1:35PM

Just give him some time.

Dr. Ron Paul| 10.4.11 @ 1:49PM

It is America's fault that this forum is out of control.

Bibi Netanyahu| 10.4.11 @ 3:15PM

We Must Stop Ron Paul.

The American Military Likes Him Too Much.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 6:01PM

Thanks Jack and Clint. By the way, neither of you is fit to sniff Bibi's used jockstraps.

John| 10.4.11 @ 6:30PM

I take it you are familiar with Bibi's used jockstraps.

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 5:08PM

I'm familiar with mine. I wasn't an ex-commando. I assume John, that they're 1/1 millionth as bad as yours.

somnolence| 10.4.11 @ 2:01PM

As far as songs go, that is why I have always liked jazz. Improvise around the melody, which is often cliched and staid. Jazz improvisers dance around even Celtic melodies. It matters little to me if "Hail To The Chief" is spiced up in that sense then. And no, I also don't care if the next CONSERVATIVE President doesn't always wear a tie in the office either. Just get the damned job done, but fashionable threads doesn't always guarantee respect for the Oval Office. Sorry, Laura Ingraham and even G.W. Bush. We have a disagreement in that aspect. Repeat: Just get the job done, and be a true fiscally sound, defense minded, and life-loving Chief Executive; not a fashion plate.

somnolence| 10.4.11 @ 2:08PM

If I had to bet today I'd say the nominee will more than likely be Romney. He will win Michigan and California in the primaries for starters.

Appleby| 10.4.11 @ 2:44PM

Herman Cain would need on the job training, and I think we have had enough of that.

I haven't decided yet whom to vote for; I don't really like any of them, to tell you the truth.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:22PM

Why would he need on the job training? Has ANYONE that runs for the first time ever been President?
Sheesh.
And Herman Cain has plenty of experience running a business, and is smart as a whip.

What's he too Bible believing Christians for some of you folks??

Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 4:20PM

Yes, you're absolutely right!

By all means, DON'T vote for an accomplished, self-made, confident man who turns everything he touches to gold!

Vote for a career politician, instead! They're soooooooo reliable!

After all, if the Founders had wanted the people to be in charge, instead of a self-appointed elite, they would have written it down somewhere...

shill alert| 10.4.11 @ 2:46PM

Goldstein is a shill, cain is another banker drone, meet the new boss same as the old boss, fed reserve cartel advocate, another zookeeper for the vampire squid that sucks the life out of america.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:22PM

Spoken like a true Paul-bot whack job.

loulou| 10.4.11 @ 4:08PM

I would have thought the Paulbots would be down at Wall Street, rallying.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 5:38PM

Hey loulou, we saw a video of good old Adam Kokesh there, holding up a microphone and "interviewing" the protesters.

Kokesh is Clint's ilk~ anarcho Capitalist, or WHATever.
They're vile and violent creeps.. so oh yeah, it's at least in part the Paul-bot crowd.

Clint| 10.4.11 @ 9:56PM

You're A Slandering Liar Neo-Chickenhawk RINO-CINO Israel Firster, Apocalyptic Crank Lady Margie.

Margie| 10.5.11 @ 2:56PM

Actually, Clinty-poo, I'm not.
You've written in praise of Anarcho-Capitalism before.. and you yourself are indeed a pal of Kokesh (in spirit) as you have PRAISED him here in these very pages.
Soooo... just who IS the slandering liar?
It is YOU!

Doctor Right| 10.4.11 @ 4:21PM

You Paul-bots REALLY dislike Jews, don't you?

Clint| 10.4.11 @ 9:58PM

Doctor Reich The Fixated Anti-Catholic Joisey Punk, Attempts To Play The Anti-Jew Card On Dr.Ron Paul's Supporters.

This Is The Big Yellow Bus Callin' The Lemon Pie Yellow.

The tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 5:12PM

Clint: tell me about your philosemitism. I'm ready to hear paeans of love for Israel/Jews from you.

Let's start with admiration for Jews and Nobel Prizes. Did you realize that FIVE of the announced Nobelists in the Hard Sciences this year alone were Jewish?

Incidentally, stating that I'm playing the "X-Card" is not always a defense. For example, david Duke can't say, "you're playing the antisemite card on me," because, well, he's blatant.

And you're the idiot who claimed that Jews don't win a lot of Nobels.

RetUSA1/75| 10.4.11 @ 3:08PM

And the 10 reason I woud nominate Herman Cain is just that. He is what he is. He is the kind of politician who sharpens his teeth on what is needed for America. Right now. I will carry his rucksack and LBE anywhere. As it has standed for me since he came onto the scene, I can do it as a registered Independent. No slack for the slacker's. R.L.T.W.!

RetUS A1/75| 10.4.11 @ 3:12PM

Never comment on a blog after you have pulled 4 consecutive day 12hr night shift's. What your brain wants to say and the finger's type are not the same. Rack time for me folk's. Later..................

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:23PM

Praise God for REAL MEN!!!

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 5:12PM

Still coherent, and much nicer than paulbots Ret.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 3:29PM

Herman Cain 2012!

loulou| 10.4.11 @ 4:09PM

Amen to that but he does need to learn how to deal with the ambush questions.

loulou| 10.4.11 @ 4:10PM

And I think he will learn. Cain is very smart. Math and CS, after all.

Thomas Abella | 10.4.11 @ 4:12PM

I love just about everything about Mr. Cain except for the part of 9-9-9 that is an excise tax. I understand the thinking behind this but know that as soon as he is out of the WH, the forces of human nature will come back to take it up to 12-12-12 anad then to 15-15-15. I would stick with corp and personal taxes at, say 12-12 or 15-15, and drop the third universe of taxation since future generations of pols will abuse it.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.4.11 @ 4:55PM

Yeah, because as we all know, our current tax code hasn't been abused at all.

Scott Ballinger | 10.4.11 @ 4:27PM

I'm glad Mr. Cain has all these "experts" and first-name-basis friends here to tell him what to do.... He's moved on from the Perry thing - have you? He KILLED on The View - have you seen the video yet? He's turned around failing corporations - have you? He's running for president of the United States - we're not. As a dedicated Herman Cain supporter, I'm inclined to give him, as a thinking adult, a little leeway with how he engages the media - are you? HERMAN CAIN 2012....

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 10.4.11 @ 4:54PM

What happened to the comment boards here? I used to see much more sober, calculated arguments, and now it seems the Ron Paul loons have completely ruined that.

Just an observation. I hate how the bots and trolls take over what is otherwise intelligent conversation as election season ramps up.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 6:03PM

At least you're here, Phil. I despise Jack and Clint.

Clint| 10.4.11 @ 10:00PM

That's Because You're A Screwball Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Coward Traitor Bastard, Tool Job.

Thew Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 11:01PM

No, it's because he's a man with discernment, judgment and intelligence.

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 5:13PM

For a guy who claims the Tea Party has nothing positive to do with Israel (a LOT of Red Dogs would disagree with you), you seem to hate the little country a lot, Clint.

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:42AM

Still haven't heard the paeans of love for Jews and their Nobels, Clint. Where's the LUUUUVVVV, Oh professed antizionist philosemite?

Simon Templar| 10.4.11 @ 6:11PM

Very good observation, Phil. I have not seen your comments lately and miss them. Please write more...we can use more sober and intelligent comments.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 7:29PM

"..as election season ramps up."
LOL.
You must not read here all that much.
Although, some consider me a troll, too.
Yep. I'm one of those pesky in your face Bible believing Christians that just won't go away, no matter what they try and do to me!

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 1:53PM

Margie, you are not a troll and you make some very good points.

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 5:14PM

Who ever called you a Troll, Marvellous Marg?

Ken (Old Texican)| 10.4.11 @ 4:55PM

Hmmm, reading the comments brought an irony to mind.
Can any black man be comfortable being a "servant" of the people? All the people?

Perhaps Mr. Cain can. He got very wealthy being in the "food service" industry.
Conversely,
the only wealth Mr. Obama ever derived was tax-payer money.

Occam's Tool| 10.4.11 @ 6:04PM

Dear Ken:

Refer to Jackie Robinson. In a different time, HE would have been the first American Black President. Cain could serve. So can West.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 6:09PM

What's Race got to do with it?

RCV| 10.5.11 @ 2:22PM

Exactly. Herman Cain should be judged on his ideas and record, nothing else. Period.

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:43AM

Correct, RCV. I dislike Obama because he's a Liberal who betrays Israel every chance he gets and threatens to tax me hard, not because of his race. I hated Jimmy too.

Tom| 10.4.11 @ 6:39PM

You left out an important element; he's NOT Ivy League. We're suffocating from Ivy League narcisist.

W| 10.4.11 @ 7:09PM

In last week's Rasmussen poll, Obama did best against the most conservative candidates, such as Bachman, Santorum, Gingrich. Obama lost to Romney and was even with Christie and Perry. Against these Obama got between 42 to 48%.

But aginst Cain Obama won 39 to 34. Only a five point spread, and Obama got the hist lowest number (39) aginst Cain. It appears Obama loses some of his supporters, presumably black, about 3 points to Cain.

Everybody knows Obama by now yet he cannot get over 50 and gets only 39 against Cain. That would be a good debate Cain v. Obama, a self made businessman v. an affirmative action community organizer.

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 7:25PM

Drudge Reporting:

Herman Cain rises, Rick Perry slides in new CBS News poll~

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....03544.html

ole meanie| 10.4.11 @ 7:30PM

Yeah, well, here is 1 reason not to elect Cain: his foolish response to the question about Perry's family property. I personally am so sick of all this crud about "racism" here, "racism" there that i could just puke.

Cain hasn't got a a lock on brains, despite his degree in math, and running a fast-food chain isn't nearly as complex as running a steel mill, an airline, a railroad or a trucking company; in fact, it is a pretty simple business to understand.

I'll vote for him if he is the GOP nominee, but here we go again--except this time we have a conservative blogger named Aaron Goldstein making race an issue. He tells us that in the case of Cain, we have "REASON No 7 : He Would Make Liberal Charges of Racism Look Really, Really Stupid". Looking stupid to whom?

We don't need Cain to demonstrate that liberals are "really, really stupid". We already know it. the libs are the only ones who don't know it. They think we conservatives are really, really stupid. Actually, what is going to happen to Cain--if he keeps putting his shoe in his buccal cavity-- is that to the liberal left and their captive media are going to respond that "NO, Cain is really, really stupid".

Margie| 10.4.11 @ 7:39PM

I think you're pretty stupid, and that you just don't get it.

ole meanie| 10.6.11 @ 1:00AM

Margie, your reply compellingly demonstrates an intellect which finds a declarative sentence an adequate substitute for reason. ( I assume that your are only six years old, so I am not trying to insult you).

Margie| 10.6.11 @ 8:40PM

Meh.

RCV| 10.4.11 @ 8:15PM

Sometimes racism really is racism.

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 4:28AM

The right would be really, really, stupid if they think by electing a black man the left would suddenly stop calling them racist. I'm not a racist and I don't feel the need to vote for an unqualified black man to prove it.
The right needs to grow a pair and stop trying to PROVE anything to the left.

Jack Rail| 10.4.11 @ 8:08PM

The Left sincerely believes the GOP will nominate a black to mask its racism. After all, that's what the Left did.

POST American| 10.4.11 @ 11:07PM

-----And, of course, for the Rock--ef--L--O
USURY feuled, tax free, 'benny violent' EUGENICS establishment
---'the'--- number one reason is to fend off RON PAUL.

--------------Their days are numbered-----------------

-----------HUAC meets NUREMBERG 2012---------

Dan Mathewson| 10.4.11 @ 11:49PM

Ah, you're a Paulican. Ron Paul is the grouchy, old coot sitting on a park bench.

POST American| 10.5.11 @ 12:11AM

BTW-----------and time to BOYCOTT the
compliant, programming 'friendly', rectum
worship n' sports 'culture' ---NFL---

AVCurmudgeon| 10.5.11 @ 12:32AM

Years ago when the NFL Rams were in Los Angeles their owner, Carroll Rosenbloom, was interviewing a young prospect named Chuck Knox for head coach. Knox had been an assistant with the Lions but had no head coaching experience. They went around and around, Rosenbloom questioning this and hinting at that and finally Knox's patience ended and he said "Dammit, Carroll, I can win." Knox got the job.

I've been on board for Cain since the beginning. Do I think he walks on water? No. Does he have gaps? Yes, especially in foreign policy. Has he made mistakes? Yes, most notably this silly business about Perry. Is 9-9-9 a good plan? Hey, the only thing I know about taxes is that I pay too much of them.

I just know this: Cain can win. So let's get the White House back and go from there.

Buck Ofama| 10.5.11 @ 1:18AM

>Does he know everything he needs to know to be President? No. But Cain is a quick study.

That's pretty much what the infatuated fools said about Ovomit.

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 1:47PM

Correction, the infatuated fools as I remember did not address his qualifications or his experience at all. They told us he had a Harvard education and was a brilliant constitutional lawyer. That was considered enough for the job. He was smarter than that dumb Bush. Everything else was irrevelant. He was considered to have all the answers and was going to lower the sea levels. His education, his associations, his backround was irrevelant.

Cain has ten times more work and life experience, is more broadly educated, and actually has specific ideas and solutions. All presidents learn much on the job. It is what they bring to the job that is critical. Bam Bam has neither the life experience, business experience, or personal character that Cain has...

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 1:34PM

We complain as citizens and conservatives that we are sick of career politicians, that we believe in self government, that we wish for leaders that had practical business experience and real world experience, and pine for someone who truly represents conservative values and respects the constitution.

Here comes a man named Herman Cain who has these qualities and we are complaining that he does not have enough foreign policy experience. How many Presidents ever did? Not many.

Maybe we are a nation of whiners, cynics, and ill informed morons.

Aaron, let me add to the list.
He has the same sense of humor and graciousness as Ronald Reagan.
He has significant real world experience solving problems and has a real grasp of understanding of main street economics and business.
He has a well rounded and significant education and experience in varying industry, public service, military, and financial sectors.

As for his comments on Perry. This story on his comments was just another liberal media distortion and manipulation. For the million time, he did not trash Perry and has accepted his campaigns explanation and DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT PERRY IS A RACIST nor that this is representative of his Perry's family or Perry himself. Stop getting your news from the MSM and listening to the headlines.

Margie| 10.5.11 @ 3:02PM

Excellent as always, Simon.
The question now is: Are our conservative (so-called and self proclaimed) friends here going to vote for what looks like the most conservative candidate running so far, or are they already too busy throwing him under the bus?

It never fails to astound me how we work against each other.. and manage to literally hand the election over to the Left.

Of course it's early and all that. But look at the trashing of Herman Cain going on already!

Stupid does as stupid IS!!

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 4:20AM

Keep throwing that red meat, Herman. These people are buying it lock, stock, and barrel. And don't forget to throw in a few more "that dog won't hunt"... They really eat that folksy stuff up

Occam's Tool| 10.10.11 @ 3:44AM

Cain is also stating that he "will not go there" on the subject of Romney's Mormonism. There is no religious test for POTUS...

vtwin| 10.5.11 @ 1:37PM

Nine reasons for the republicans to nomination herman cain

1) mitt romney
2) rick perry
3) newt gingrich
4) michele bachmann
5) rick santorum
6) ron paul
7) chris christie
8) sarah palin
9) donald trump

and one reason it's not going to matter

1) barack obama

vtwin| 10.5.11 @ 1:38PM

Sorry, nominate.

RedRoute1| 10.5.11 @ 2:11PM

He had me at, "I'll prosecute CAIR."
Logged on to his web site, registered as, "A friend of Herman Cain," sent $50 bucks that day!
The irrational unhingyness of the left and the duplicity of establishment RINO’s will multiply a thousand fold if this great man wins the republocrat nomination. Mr. Cain will expose it all.
He's their worst nightmare since Justice Clarence Thomas arrived on the seen.

Oldefarte| 10.5.11 @ 3:35PM

It's early yet, but if Cain ends up the Republican nominee, I'll gladly vote for him. Why? Simple, because he's about my age, he act like me, he thinks like me, he looks like me, I admire who he is [and who he isn't as well], he's a MAN [IOW, he's got GUTS/COURAGE in spades], he knows how to make a decision [and how to quickly do so and expect those working for him to snap to and carry out same] and to run an enterprise, etc. Government is a PUBLIC business [as opposed to a PRIVATE one], but it is still a business. The former does not contain the element of PROFIT, but it is still dealing with revenues and expenses essentially, and Cain understands that and has dealth with same his entire working life. I'm sick and tired of the obnoxious anti-Cain that currently occupies the WH, with its Marxist/socialist philosophy that is driving this country into Hades; and I want a CAPITALIST to right our ship of fate [and Cain can do so easily]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Lawyers| 10.5.11 @ 3:53PM

Cain is real. He has done and will do. I'm donating today.

No Lawyers| 10.5.11 @ 3:55PM

Cain is real. He has done - produced and will do so in the White House. For him, it is more than an intellectual exercise.

FreedomRings| 10.5.11 @ 3:56PM

Excellent article Mr. Goldstein. Thank you.

I'm an Independent voter looking to the Republicans this year (Obama has to go-he is plainly not equipped for the job).

Herman Cain has been my preference from the day I first found his website - about 5 months back or so. He has given thought to our current issues and put together interesting proposals to address some of them. He is articulate. He has become more comfortable during interviews on TV (his body language is more relaxed and more confident). He is obviously knowledgeable about business, about people and what motivates them, and he has little direct experience in politics - in my opinion a huge plus given the performances we've see coming out of Washington for the past 20+ years. I think it is time for a House- and Senate-cleaning in that regard and sending a man like Herman Cain to the Presidency would communicate that message loud & clear to the political class.

I hope you write more about this candidate as the election season continues.

emo| 10.5.11 @ 4:02PM

Prediction:

Obama will easily win re-election even with 10% unemployment. I have never seen a more pathetic group than the current GOP primary candidates. The GOP will either nominate someone who is unacceptable to the base or unacceptable to the general electorate. Either another McCain or another Christine O'Donnell.

Drunken Sailor| 10.5.11 @ 4:31PM

At least you picked a appropriate moniker.

John G.| 10.6.11 @ 10:31PM

Does November 2010 ring a bell?

Russell Purvis | 10.5.11 @ 4:09PM

Is it not true that Cain said things unconstitutional concerning the right muslims have to build mosques in particular areas?

Gmason| 10.5.11 @ 4:35PM

I agree with all of your points, and to my mind the greatest reason of all is his character. As you stated, his sense of humor, dignity, and grace speak to a maturity and groundness that have been sadly lacking in the last few decades, and I think this return to a balanced, mature, President would be just what this country needs right now.

Colorad0| 10.5.11 @ 4:38PM

Nah, after his recent comments that being Gay is a choice, he has entered the category (along with Perry and Bachman) of stupid conservative, which is almost as dangerous as a liberal. Newt or Romney. A Newt/Obama debate would be a thing of beauty, if only he could win the favor of independents.

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 6:36PM

Troll.

Tallgrass05| 10.5.11 @ 4:40PM

Examine his 9-9-9 plan. Apply it to real numbers based on the income and revenue in the USA. 9-9-9 would soon have the country bankrupt but increase taxes for lower and middle class Americans.

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 6:37PM

Troll.

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 4:13AM

You can call everyone not supporting Cain a troll but that doesn't change the FACT that Cain is not qualified to be POTUS.

obamanot| 10.5.11 @ 4:52PM

Herman Cain is the ANTI-OBAMA!

Yes, we CAIN!

LynnTTT| 10.5.11 @ 5:05PM

Except_ He has continued to state that Muslims are trying to pass Sharia law; he would/or would not" hire a Muslim ; he says that anyone today who doesn't have a job or is not rich-it's their own fault. He doesn't believe in property rights- thinks that even if zoning allows a mosque, it shouldn't be allowed-anywhere.

Occam's Tool| 10.5.11 @ 5:16PM

I know my parents are THRILLED with their Mosque in Park Ridge, IL near their house. Fantastic for market values. And Barack has been great for jobs.

Nonabsolute| 10.5.11 @ 6:38PM

In Washington only.

He has been great for Jobless benifits.

Nonabsolute| 10.5.11 @ 6:38PM

He has been great for Jobless benifits in the rest of the country.

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 6:37PM

Another troll.

jamaljackson| 10.5.11 @ 5:22PM

I like Cain and would vote for him, but I think it was beneath him to jump on the bandwagon accusing Perry of racism.

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 6:40PM

He did not accuse Perry of racism. That was another MSM lie and spin. He does not believe Perry is a racist nor Perry's family. He has had to clear this up all week on the talk shows. Stop sucking up everything you hear and repeating it.

Nonabsolute| 10.5.11 @ 6:40PM

He did not accuse Perry of racism on the 5 min segment of the view I saw. Unless there is antother that shows different you need to listen for yourself.

Thom Scott | 10.5.11 @ 5:31PM

I love it! Even the policies that I may differ with Herman Cain about I am confident knowing that he will actually listen to sound advice and reasoned arguments from opponents before deciding - just as he did with his management team while in his CEO post.

I am thrilled that he doesn't owe his political career to a corporation or special interest group who has bought and paid for him - because he has no political career ;-)

Go Hermanator!!!

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 6:46PM

Excellent point Thom! This is a great trait to have as a leader. Weigh all ideas, sift them, and come up with the best plan that incorporates the best ideas taht accomplish the goals and objectives.

M Bauman| 10.5.11 @ 5:37PM

The man knows less than nothing about foreign affairs and defense issues.
The only way I would vote for him is if Thaddeus McCotter were his running mate.

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 6:41PM

Why don't you offer to run as his VP.

Nonabsolute| 10.5.11 @ 6:42PM

He is running for President of the United States not the President of the UN.

JPG| 10.11.11 @ 7:41AM

M Bauman,
What a lame excuse for a comment.

jmkstl| 10.5.11 @ 5:50PM

Cain for President!! Oh, I guess that's redundant.

Everything about the person says yes. He has actually accomplished something!! That is more than the current occupant of the White House could say.

Rod Hug| 10.5.11 @ 5:59PM

"He Is a Mathematician"
No doubt Cain is familiar with the first order differential equation that calculates future debt given present debt. Maybe he could teach it to Obama, but I doubt it.
Yes, Cain is my choice. Romney is definitely out given his softness on repeal of Obamacare.

Linda G.| 10.5.11 @ 6:24PM

Has the U.S. ever elected a president who has not held elective office or been a military leader?

Simon Templar| 10.5.11 @ 6:42PM

Good question. If not, this will be the first and hopefully not the last.

Nonabsolute| 10.5.11 @ 6:43PM

Who cares?????????????????

Nick| 10.5.11 @ 7:05PM

Linda G.,

I know of one: Herbert Hoover. He was President Harding's Commerce Secretary, and, after he died, President Coolidge's as well.

yuwei| 10.5.11 @ 8:18PM

Romney is a closet Liberal. No to him. Yes to Cain. I support Tea Part and I like Cain.

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 4:08AM

Cain is one of Romney's biggest supporters!
If Romney is a liberal... what does that make Cain?

Nixonfan| 10.5.11 @ 8:23PM

You forgot one other aspect: There are only two charismatic politicians in America today: Cain and Christie, and Christie's not running.

Americanaiko| 10.5.11 @ 9:25PM

Perry said something at the last debate that gave many of us that thought he was "The Man", great pause. He used the language of the Left to bolster his bona fides with Latinos. He misses that mark when he beleives the majority of Latinos are down with the one's that cut in line getting the bennie's their kids are not "entittled" to. A clear and misguided pander.
He said one more thing I don't think he meant as prophetic. Although strangely phrased, Perry's combining of Cain and Gingrich would be an incredible ticket. And wouldn't you know, there are more than a couple of polls that say there are many out there that think the same thing.
I can easily see Cain debating Obama and cleaning his clock. Newt vs Biden is not even a fair fight.

Maxi| 10.7.11 @ 4:07AM

Obama would mop the floor with Cain. Cain is only good at throwing red meat to the base. He talks in sound bites. If I hear him say "that dog won't hunt" one more time I'll throw up.

Jay| 10.5.11 @ 10:21PM

Cainunism [keyn - yuh - niz - uhm] – noun

1. A theory or system of economic organization based on a wildly optimistic regard for the fiscal discipline of Congress and the President. Adherence to this theory typically requires the suspension of disbelief concerning the ability of increasing the government’s power to tax, without substantive spending cuts, to actually reduce burdens on taxpayers and to produce economic recovery.

2. The intentional use by politicians of resonate slogans which obfuscate and distract some voters from the otherwise conspicuous absence of thoughtful, realistic or realizable fiscal or monetary plans and policies.

Cainunist [keyn - yuh - nist] - adjective

1. Of, characterized by, favoring or relating to Cainunism; Cainunistic

In a sentence: “Imagining that a ‘9 - 9 - 9’ percent tax ‘plan’ would not soon be 9.9 - 9.9 - 9.9, then 19 - 19 - 19, and so on, is just more magical Cainunist thinking.”

Origin of Cainunism: term used by informed voters to describe the economic-sounding slogans that originated from the 2012 vanity presidential campaign of Herman Cain (1945 – )

Synonyms for Cainunism: 1. Prevarication, 2. Deception, 2. Cozen, 3. Hucksterism, 4. Hoodwink, 5. Sales Pitch, 6. Razzle Dazzle

Antonyms for Cainunism: 1. Common Sense, 2. Objective Reality, 2. Free Market, 3. Tax Reduction, 4. Economic Liberty, 5. Less Government, 6. Constitutionalism

David| 10.6.11 @ 12:20AM

There is absolutely ZERO chance that republicans will nominate a black man. Any republican who believes this can happen does not understand the kind of party he belongs to.

Rob razor| 10.6.11 @ 12:42AM

I prefer the libertarians but they don't seem to be getting traction. For this reason I will likely support Cain. I do like perry but his immigration stance is way off and likely far worse than he is admiring. My wife stated his history with al gore is a no starter.
Romney is worthless, his business experience is mostly high finance rather than real CEO experience. romneycare is a non starter and prior statements on global warming, give me a break.
I also like bachman but she is just not that good at this yet, dumb sounding answers and flubs will likely end her before she gets traction.

So i don't really see any solid choice other than Cain. I can't say I am not afraid of electing another person with no voting record. maybe more scary is his history with the FED. however he is the the most conservative candidate that can actually win. If you really think Romney is a solid conservative, i would say take another look. Before we nominate another Mccain. His short time in politics may surprise us all. Any main that can win the Northeast governorship cant be all that. just look at Christie and his gun, global warming and immigration stance. But I do love his tough talk.

ClintfromTexas| 10.6.11 @ 1:07AM

10. Herman Cain survived stage 4 cancer. Like Steve Jobs another great American visionary and business person who passed today, I think most people who survived a cancer that should have killed them they have a perspective on life that drives them to do the right thing and not worry so much about how other people will take it. I think Herman Cain would heal a lot of scars that the past three years of Obama rule have inflicted on this great country. Just watching that clip from the view, even those liberal women that would tear into a Palin or a Perry just because they are Republican showed a respect for Cain that I have not seem them show a republican in a long time. Cain just seems like someone you should respect and listen to even if you are diametrically opposed to his political affiliation. As much as I respect Perry for the way he has limited government over the last ten years in Texas, while the natural nationwide momentum was to increase government, I think he would be someone who the democrats would fight tooth and nail for 4 or 8 years. Being the eternal optimist, I always look for a candidate that could somehow unite the country again in a way that few Presidents have been able to like a Kennedy or after some time a Reagan.

shadowboxing| 10.6.11 @ 1:54AM

Thank you, Tim Pennell - my shoulders sagged a little when Mr. Cain said, "That was insensitive" in response to Chris Wallace trying to bait him into being affronted at the name

#1 It was leased, not owned by the Perrys.
#2 It was leased by Perry's parents, not Rick Perry.
#3 It is 4200 acres of land,possibly leased as most deer leases are, because there are deer and other game there, not for the colorful name.
and #4 Possibly Rick Perry is truthful in saying they painted over some of the signs. Walking 4200 acres, carrying a paint bucket and brush, looking for signs is thirsty work.

But was it his right or duty to paint over signs on property that does not belong to him?

No, but it was certainly his and his family's duty not to rent such a place!!!! That is not my opinion - just the liberal whine.

Why doesn't someone find the spokesman for the Hendricks Home for Children (owners of Niggerhead) and ask them if they were aware of the many signs on their property. If they say no, then you can find out who they bought it from, and get to the bottom of this and we can try 'em and hang 'em.

There is a Black Dog Tavern in Martha's Vineyard. I wonder what that really means?

shadowboxing| 10.6.11 @ 2:37AM

Out of curiosity I googled lyrics of Stephen F. Foster's "Swanee River - Old Folks at Home"

I see now that it is the state song of Florida, the line that Foster wrote:
Oh, darkies, how my heart grows weary. . . "
is now
"oh, brothers, how my heart grows weary. . ".

Does that make everyone feel better? A song written a million years ago in the idiom of the time has to undergo sanitizing to be sung today.

I guess if they ran Porgy and Bess on Broadway again, they couldn't have Bess getting beat up or have a "Sportin' Life" character at all, as it depicts abuse and gambling, and a reference to "happy dust", and we all know that would be stereotyping of African Americans. Good thing Gershwin is dead, but I guess he could still twirl in his grave if they messed with his lyrics.

Hitler burned books. We want to censor Mark Twain, re-paint rocks on private property and label ever behavior we don't like as bullying until they come of age, then we call it a hate crime.

How is it, a little old Jewish woman going to Synagogue, gets mugged and robbed - its a hate crime. I get mugged and robbed on the steps of St. Veronica's - it's not. Purse snatcher just saw an easy mark (Unless it is Margie doing the mugging - - then its a hate crime!)

And why is it perfectly OK to call any Southerner redneck? Most of the liberals don't even know what redneck means. I means a person who works out doors, probably farming, bent to his work and getting the back of his neck sunburned. I guess that makes him ignorant and low class.

Nigger - - bad word, unless you are a black rapper talkin' to your homies.

Redneck - good word, necessary descriptive word to describe folks you feel superior to.

shadowboxing| 10.6.11 @ 2:39AM

"It means" - - not "I means". I correct that, lest some thin skinned black thinks I am mocking him.

Kelsonus| 10.6.11 @ 5:49AM

My concern for Cain is one of the 2 I have with Obama; experience. While it has helped the right against Obama, I fear it would do the same with Mr Cain and the left...

Simon Templar| 10.6.11 @ 12:01PM

Then you will respond with, Mr. Cain has extensive leadership experience and work experience across several work sectors that include business, finance, and the military. He has a broad educational background. He is more than fit to lead. He has actual proposals and solutions.

This trumps your poser president with 2 years of voting present as a state senator and a few years as a community organizer who has never had a real job, has no solutions, and no leadership experience in anything... by light years.

ame| 10.6.11 @ 12:40PM

I admire Herman Cain and would have no qualms voting for him (but then again, I am a conservative Tea Party wassist) BUT I do not understand 9-9-9 in this sense: does Cain plan to eradicate the tax code as written and then implement 9-9-9 ...is 9-9-9 just going to be part of what we already have ... how do we know it won't add to the taxes we already pay ... I prefer Connie Mack's 1 cent plan - I have yet to read any true analytical information on 9-9-9.

Frank | 10.6.11 @ 12:43PM

10) He can assure that Obama doesn't ruin the chance for all future African American candidates.
11) The only thing more likely to induce lefty head explosions than a pro-life woman is a pro capitalist black.

Nolo| 10.6.11 @ 12:50PM

Did the author not believe "split the black vote" would be a factor in Cain's favor, or did he just think it was too obvious -- and too Machiavellian , like nominating Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court -- to include in his list? Cain does have a nice resume and a bit of star quality, but it's scary to hear a seemingly intelligent man express ideas about climate change, homosexuality and a variety of other topics that make him sound not just poorly educated but willfully ignorant. Plus, his 9-9-9 plan sounds like a glib pizza promotion, not a fix for the incredibly complicated financial mess we're in thanks primarily to reckless, scofflaw CEOs who would love to have a corporate compadre in the White House.

Old Frank| 10.6.11 @ 1:39PM

Two more reasons that should have been on the list: 1. Enhancing Mr. Cain's management and negotiation skills, he was President of the National Rstaurant Association. (see U-Tube debate he had President Clinton in 1992 re: Hillary-Care.)
2. Mr. Cain was on the board of The Federal Reserve branch in Kansas City. He understands how the central banking system works and would lead in improving it.
I'm a "HONKEY for HERMAN"

John G.| 10.6.11 @ 10:22PM

Herman speaks without a filter. Not normally an electable quality. These aren't normal times, though.

On Occupy Wall St.: "What do they think those bankers on Wall Street are going to do, come outside and write them a check?"

I might vote for him. I'll need to decide with the Florida primary four months away. The primary process is important, especially with Obama through the election away with both hands.

4bees| 10.6.11 @ 10:32PM

The main weakness- and very concerning- is the third "9", the consumption tax. Left to typical government devices, that will rise to match the 20% of many European counties before long...

moey| 10.7.11 @ 2:38PM

I trust the third "9" would NOT be set up as a VAT tax!

Susan52 | 10.7.11 @ 11:33AM

Succinct and right on the money. I supported Herman Cain from the start and feel so proud of him right now you'd think I was his mama!

StanO| 10.7.11 @ 1:51PM

He's a man that has conviction, you know if he makes a mistake it's not because he's underhanded.

I'm tired of wimps. When Obama was running for Pres. I said "He may be a nice guy, they might make great neighbors, but hate his policies". Well I was wrong on both counts, he and his wife are petulant *( (I'm sure his kids are fine). But I am confident that Herman Cain is someone that people will relate to personally and is the real deal.

moey| 10.7.11 @ 2:36PM

Oh boy, bring on the Cain/Obama debate - I'd fly anywhere to see that one in person. The time to respond would have to be watched closely as Obama turns any answer into a 1/2 hour speech. He has no idea how to answer a question directly, concisely and to the point in just a few sentences. He is inept!

Larry| 10.8.11 @ 3:56AM

No..He is a lawyer

TheRandyGuy| 10.7.11 @ 2:49PM

Mr. Cain may not know everything he needs to be president, but going in he knows a helluva lot more than Oboner knew when he took office. Mr. Cain gets my vote.

Arizona Patriot| 10.7.11 @ 9:01PM

Cain does not know Math whatsoever.
http://www.opednews.com/Diary/.....1-401.html

Mary| 10.7.11 @ 9:16PM

#10 He supports ISRAEL!

Jonathan| 10.8.11 @ 12:24AM

"If Republicans nominate a Black man, it would prove they're not racist. But if the Republicans never, ever nominate a Black man, it doesn't prove anything at all."

So I guess that the evidence only counts when it points in your favor?

Mrs. Silence Dogood | 10.9.11 @ 4:15PM

Three reasons why I won't vote for him with or without the nomination: 1) His 9-9-9 concept stinks. Doesn't matter what you call taxes, it's the spending that has to stop. Period 2) He was on the Kansas Federal Reserve Board and 3) He'll depend on the military industrial complex for advice re policing the world. And we know where they stand.

JamesK| 10.10.11 @ 10:34AM

Why no mention of his time with the Federal Reserve?

charley melton| 10.14.11 @ 10:06AM

Those old and sick people whose sole income is social security would pay 9% more in taxes so the rich can pay 9% less. When Herman Cain was asked if he thought that was fair he replied "Am I my brother's keeper?"

Powers| 10.19.11 @ 8:03PM

Wow I just hope the conservatives allow the mainstream media to nominate another apologist, befuddled, milquetoast candidate like Herman Cain (John McCain). We could feel so liberated from our stereotypes! The fact that he is about as ready as Lindsay Lohan to run the country is really irrelevant. We are not racists! Thank God we are not racists!

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