The American Spectator

Drudge Ette Obama| 9.26.11 @ 6:24AM

I would have no problem sleeping at night with Herman Cain in the White House. I have listened to him on WSB Radio and find him full of energy and practical, with little patience for self-serving politicians.

Jack in Wi.| 9.26.11 @ 10:27AM

I wrote that Herman was just used as a messenger by the elites. They have seen Perry and found him wanting. The Florida straw poll required a 135 dollar contribution to the Florida Republican Party. Nobody was paying that to see old Herm win. Herm is Mr. Federal Reserve and Mr. Tarp personified. He can take his gimmic 999 plan and go jump off a cliff. His only purpose in this race has always been as a stalking horse for the elites to delute the vote of a more conservative candidate.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 10:47AM

Jack,

Thank you for your thoughtful, insightful comments.

Mewonders how you know Mr. Cain's purpose. Has he said it out loud, or did you divine it?

DTOM

Doctor Right| 9.26.11 @ 1:19PM

It was beamed directly into Jack's brain via his tin-foil hat...

talkradio55| 9.26.11 @ 1:57PM

...and immediately afterwards, he was struck by lightning.

Jeff| 9.26.11 @ 7:58PM

If Doctor Right is making fun of you Jack, then you me be right. He thinks dimwit Perry is the answer.

Occam's Tool| 9.26.11 @ 1:56PM

Jack supposedly has a history degree, which should require clear thinking and writing.

Sorry Mr. Cain kicked Dr. Paul's ass, Jack. To see what the future holds in store for Ron Paul supporters, please note this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UM9GjnTFIM

The Paul supporters are represented by the inhabitants of Rock Ridge.

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 2:02PM

LOL!!!!!!!!

Clint| 9.26.11 @ 7:16PM

Tool Job At A Bibi Netanyahu Rally:

http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/.....1/whoa.jpg

Jack in Wi.| 9.26.11 @ 2:49PM

I have no problem with old Herm going one on one with Ron Paul. Bring it on. Herman has as much a chance to be elected as I do. I think I have more chance. These guys Perry, Cain, Santorum etc are all just stalking horses for Myth Romney.

In 1996 Pat Buchanan was the populist favorite to take the nomination. So the elites stuck in a bunch of rightwing unelectables to delute the vote. We had Alan Keyes [ Bill Kristol's college roommate ], Bob Dornan, Gary Bauer etc. It cost him several key primaries and we got Bob Dole.

The same is going on today. If we went by who has the most money coming in and the most fervent supporters Ron Paul would be in the top 2. He is in the top 2 anyhow. Because good old Perry has imploded already. He also ties against Obama, as do Perry and Romney. It is a 2 man race no matter how hard they try to puff old Herman.

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 5:00PM

Old Herm? He's 10 years younger than your boy Jackie? Old Herm? LOL. "has as much a chance to be elected as I do" Don't be so hard on yourself old Jackie, with a little lobbying and some baby kissing I'm sure you could get elected Anti-Semite of the year at your next ZOG convention.

Jack in Wi.| 9.26.11 @ 6:12PM

Old Herm is in the fifth year of remission of stage four liver cancer. I wish him a long and happy life. But right now I like Dr. Paul's chances of longivity over Herms. All the top contenders are well past or near retirement age. Gingrich, Herm, Ron Paul, and Romney. Perry is only 61 but that is hardly young. Many people have cashed it in be that time or retired. Four of the last 5 Republican nominees have been at or way past normal retirement. We know that younger guys like Bush Jr., Obama and Clinton have stunk as presidents.

Mrs Vito| 9.27.11 @ 8:20PM

Ron Paul is just a fox-trot away from an Aricept prescription. He's just creepy, and so are his supporters.

cowgirl| 9.26.11 @ 11:48AM

Hows that Koolaid working for ya?

VBMax| 9.26.11 @ 12:29PM

Where is your "more conservative candidate'?

blackwatch| 9.26.11 @ 12:57PM

Dan, Cowgirl, VBmax,

Nicely done!

Doctor Right| 9.26.11 @ 1:20PM

You do realize that Ron Paul is NOT a Conservative, right?

Sean| 9.26.11 @ 3:18PM

Let me see. Doesn't vote for debt ceiling raises, unbalanced budgets, and TARP. He follows the Constitution. That seems conservative to me. Who do you have in mind that has a better record than that?

Clint| 9.26.11 @ 6:45PM

Ronald Reagan,
" If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are traveling the same path."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Al Adab| 9.26.11 @ 7:22PM

Libertarians and Conservatives have been on parallel paths from many years.The distinction however, is found in the Libertarian failure to recognize that there do exist moral absolutes which government is obligated to respect (not to impose) and that not doing so results in a disorderly if not hedonistic society.

Clint | 9.26.11 @ 7:41PM

The Distinction Is In Your Failure To Recognize That There Are About 10 Different Types Of Libertarians, As Well As Shades Of Libertarians.

Dr.Ron Paul Is A Constitutional Conservative, In The Vein of The Founders & The Old Right.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

beebop| 9.26.11 @ 6:41PM

uh ... sorry.

Michelle Bachman won in Iowa and I guess that was a premessage to Rick?

The way I see it is this: conservatives aren't thrilled to pull the lever for Mitt so there is always someone new winning and polling better. You know? I think that Mitt should be scared witless. The last man standing is hardly a ringing endorsement ...

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 10:51AM

DEO;

You write that you 'have no problem sleeping at night with Mr. Cain in the White House.'

Have you checked with his wife?

HeeHaw! I'm thinking of checking with her, too.

DTOM

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 5:27PM

Jack is right, Cain is a token, an uncle Tom:

"Massa, you wan' I should lick yo' boots now?"

Sara | 9.26.11 @ 5:46PM

I wondered how long it would be before somebody called Herman Cain "Uncle Tom." He doesn't deserve that kind of treatment. Neither does any other person of any color who decides to think for himself instead of following a party line. I'm a white, retired, Alabama woman with a graduate degree. I'm not stupid. I would love an opportunity to vote for Herman Cain, because I like his ideas and his platform. I appreciate the fact that he's a successful self-made man. Color has nothing to do with it. When all you have is name-calling, you've run out of ammunition. But that's how you and others like you will try to take him down. I'm sure Huffington Post will rejoice in it. I hope you feel ashamed of yourself, Mr. Brooks. Thanks for repeating again the stereotypical liberal line.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:19PM

Cain wants to be president even though he:
1. isn't as talented as Obama
2. isn't as smart
3. is older and slower (fatter as well)

beebop| 9.26.11 @ 6:42PM

Thank God!!!!!

If this is what smart and talented get you, I will settle for less.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:48PM

"I will settle for less."

As you did in '88, '92, '96, 2000, '04, '08;
and you will in 2012.

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 9:36PM

Unless your a citizen of some land far, far away, you settled for the same less in '88, '92, '96, 2000, '04, '08, and you will in 2012.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 9:59PM

" and you will in 2012."

So you admit politics is a losing crapgame run by demagogues.

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 10:17PM

Whats new? Always has been. We are a long way down the wrong road and reverse gear is busted. There is no one man magic bullet solution to any of this at least not from a system thats terminally corrupt.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 11:38PM

"We are a long way down the wrong road"

We are the modern Rome, Asia is eclipsing us; if Islam is also overtaking us, we'd better read the Koran.

scotchieguy| 9.26.11 @ 8:14PM

I have never answered any of Alan's comments, but here goes--how exactly is he less "talented" than Obama? What has Obama ever accomplished other than becoming a community agitator? Obama is a hater, not a divider. He hates this country, and he hates the American Dream. Obama is gloomy, dour, and depressing. Cain is happy, optimistic, and has a can-do attitude. Cain is a successful businessman, and an extremely articulate gentleman, with mature, thought-out views. Obama will never match the stature of this giant of men.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 8:42PM

Thank God!!!!!
beebop disagrees with you:

"If this is what smart and talented get you, I will settle for less."

idalily| 9.26.11 @ 9:06PM

Scotchieguy asked you a direct question which you failed to answer. Typical of you. How is Herman Cain less "talented" than Obama?

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 9:22PM

Cain is slower-witted, less educated;
both of which affect his talent for dealing with people- which is what politics is about. Cain can travel around to do speeches appealing to conservatives, but he is better off selling Godfathers pizza.

beebop| 9.27.11 @ 5:46AM

Sarcasm seems to confuse you ...

I don't think we have ever seen a grade or a comment from a 0bama instructor. We know he's more educated because he (like Ben Stein) attended Columbia or Harvard? I posit that there are more intellectually honest individuals at a community college for lack of funding. Your opinions do not make them facts -- like global warming ...

Alan Brooks| 9.27.11 @ 9:54PM

Go ahead, elect Cain for prez- I don't think he will do you much good. If Bush couldn't cut it, neither will Cain.

idalily| 9.29.11 @ 3:37PM

That is your OPINION, which you failed to back up with even one shred of evidence. I already knew your OPINION. I wanted the facts that led you to that conclusion. You failed. Again.

grethel| 9.26.11 @ 10:14PM

Herman Cain:

1. Has talent that shines out from him, have you not noticed that he speaks his own words and can think on his feet?
2. Has moved through corporate jobs and was President of the Kansas Fed Reserve, all positions that required decision making and executive skills, unlike community organizing which anyone with an afternoon's training could handle (Witness Obamas Saturday speech for 1 and 2)
3. He is older having gathered experience and wisdom as he moved through life. And he is well built.

Alan Brooks| 9.27.11 @ 9:55PM

Go ahead, elect Cain for prez- I don't think he will do you much good. If Bush couldn't cut it, neither will Cain.

Dan Hirsch| 9.27.11 @ 6:00PM

Sara,

Do you know where I can get my
"Honkies for Cain" bumper sticker?

I mean it; if I had one, I'd sport it!!!

DTOM

Alan Brooks| 9.27.11 @ 9:55PM

Go ahead, elect Cain for prez- I don't think he will do you much good. If Bush couldn't cut it, neither will Cain.

TrueBlue| 9.26.11 @ 6:02PM

Why is it whenever a black man becomes a success anyone that dislikes him immediately goes for the Uncle Tom comment? Why can't you just accept that he is a successful AMERICAN and avoid ALL racially based comments?

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:22PM

Then, to be fair, admit that Obama is smarter, more talented, younger than Cain.
What I don't like is that Cain looks to be a black version of Bush.

idalily| 9.26.11 @ 9:07PM

How is Obama "smarter" or "more talented"? Elucidate, please.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 9:23PM

Cain is slower-witted, less educated;
both of which affect his talent for dealing with people- which is what politics is about. Cain can travel around to do speeches appealing to conservatives, but he is better off selling Godfathers pizza.

Dan Hirsch| 9.27.11 @ 6:01PM

Proof Alan, Proof, please.

DTOM

Alan Brooks| 9.27.11 @ 9:56PM

Go ahead, elect Cain for prez- I don't think he will do you much good. If Bush couldn't cut it, neither will Cain.

TrueBlue| 10.1.11 @ 10:19AM

Cain has a Bachelor's in Mathematics and a Master's in Computer Science. How is that less educated than a supposed Constitutional lawyer who never actually taught any of it like he says? He started at the bottom, father was a chauffeur and mother was a maid, he climbed to the top position in THREE different companies. That gives him more life experience and more business/economic experience. The only thing Obama has on him is how to apologize to the world for how wicked the US is. Oh yeah, and how to destroy an economy even faster than Bush was.

Goldwaterite| 9.29.11 @ 1:42PM

Herman merely committed the cardinal sin of straying off the Liberal Plantation and becoming successful, a model citizen for his community.
"For shame!" sayeth the race-baiting Leftists.

Quartermaster| 9.26.11 @ 6:23PM

He can't accept a successful; black because Brooks is a Raaaaacist.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:27PM

"He can't accept a successful; black because Brooks is a Raaaaacist."

Before you wrote I was a pinko Obama fanboy; now you write I'm a racist. You can't make up your mind.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:30PM

How 'bout this:
"Alan Brooks is a Communist-Fascist negro-loving racist gay homophobic isolationist imperialist"

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 9:21PM

How bout this? Your an @sshole, is that cool?

idalily| 9.26.11 @ 9:09PM

You are BOTH, Alan. Bigots never see their bigotry. You are a shining example of that fact. Your insults to Herman Cain as an "Uncle Tom" while refusing to show any evidence of Obama's superiority demonstrate your bigotry.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 9:24PM

Obama is POTUS, Cain is a pizza guy.

vonda| 9.27.11 @ 12:39AM

Kenya Smith wrote this on a blog today, "the Pizza guy" is just one of many accomplishments.

Herman Cain bio: ■Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics. ■Master’s degree in Computer Science. ■Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist). ■Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola. ■VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation). All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers! ■ Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers. ■Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months. ■In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry. ■He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side. Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again! ■Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses. ■Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system. After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time! ■Cain has authored four books: Leadership is Common Sense (1997), Speak as a Leader (1999), CEO of SELF (October 2001), and They Think You're Stupid (May 2005). He also authored an article titled "The Intangibles of Implementation" in the technical journal Interfaces (Vol. 9, No. 5, 1979, pp. 144-147), published by the Institute for Operations Research and the Management Sciences (INFORMS). ■Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country). He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking—Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century

Quiche Lorraine| 9.30.11 @ 1:23AM

Why do you guys continue to humor this creep.
Don't Feed the Trolls!

Jeff| 9.26.11 @ 9:36PM

Brooks, You incoherent as usual. You can be both a racist and a pinko Obama fanboy. You like Obama because you are a pinko like Obama. You are a racist for the stupit racist remarks you made about Cain. Clear enough?

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 10:00PM

No.

Alan Brooks| 9.27.11 @ 9:56PM

Go ahead, elect Cain for prez- I don't think he will do you much good. If Bush couldn't cut it, neither will Cain.

Jack in Wi.| 9.26.11 @ 6:20PM

Uncle Tom is a strong term. Old Herm is liked by the elites who put him on the Federal Reserve board of directors. What were his qualifications other then the color of his skin? It is an honest question. I don't know. That is the trouble with affirmative action. It raises questions about the success of every person of color. Was Obama an affirmative action baby? Would any other candidate with old Herm's paucity of qualifications be included in the debates if he wasn't black.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:25PM

Exactly, Jack, the GOP is saying
"you elected a black guy? we'll we can too; so there. Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah, nyah."

You may be a Jackboot, but you are no fool. You see how smarmy these Republicans are.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:35PM

I wouldn't mind if I thought Cain wouldn't be a Bush in blackface-- but it looks very much as if Cain would be.

"I ams de decider"
-- Herman Cain at his Inhoguration, January 20th, 2013

Jack in Wi.| 9.26.11 @ 6:37PM

Alan you are an odius little punk. But some of what you say rings true. The elites of the Ill. GOP imported Alan Keyes from Maryland to run against Obama for the Senate. He was destroyed in the election. The same would happen if Old Herm some how got the nomination.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:42PM

"Alan you are an odius little punk"

(and that's what's good about me; flattery will get you somewhere)
All of a sudden a black "conservative" (rube) is the In-Thing among Republicans.
"Why can't we elect a negro as well?" goes the logic, "they play basketball pretty well."

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:45PM

The GOP thinks:

"those negroes know how to play drum 'n' barbecue ribs, let's give Cain a chance as long as he keeps his paws off the white interns and doesn't get the idea he is a free agent like one o' them hoops players. He is OUR man, our boy."

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:58PM

We've been through this before,
McCain was hyped as Cain is now being hyped. Another "Straight-Talk Express [to nowhere]" guy.

Al Adab| 9.26.11 @ 7:29PM

Who is "we" Brooksie? Can I daresay you would not vote Republican even if you were the candidate.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 8:47PM

I voted GOP in the '80s; but if you run Palin and Bachmann on the same ticket I'll vote for them next year.
However next year it will be the same old same old. Most likely Romney will run and possibly win.

Oh, well, the Mormons know how to run Utah pretty well-- they sure know how to run businesses if nothing else.

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 9:23PM

Don't matter Brooksie, your going on the same ride as the rest of us no matter who gets in.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 9:26PM

in other words:
another memoir-writing opportunist!

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 9:28PM

we are stuck with McCains, Bushes, for decades, correct?

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 9:43PM

No, brooksie, were have already been stuck with Bush, McCain for decades, whats coming isn't going to take decades. Get in touch with whatever faith you believe in because your gonna need it.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 10:01PM

Armageddon?

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 10:26PM

Lets just say, a massive rearrangment of human history via rapidly uncontrollable human condition processes. Nothing new in history.

Alan Brooks| 9.27.11 @ 9:57PM

Go ahead, elect Cain for prez- I don't think he will do you much good. If Bush couldn't cut it, neither will Cain.

TrueBlue| 10.1.11 @ 10:26AM

The Repubs tried to get Colin Powell to run years ago, but he declined. So they were STILL first at nominating a black man. The difference is that neither Powell nor Cain look at the rest of the country and blame them for the "situation" black people are in, they blame the individual AMERICANS for not getting off their butts and making something of themselves.

irish19| 9.27.11 @ 10:18PM

I suggest you read Vonda's post, and then consider Cain's actual, real, verifiable, documentable accomplishments vis a vis Obama and Paul. Alan, you might want to do the same.

buckeyeman| 9.26.11 @ 8:34PM

"I would have no problem sleeping at night with Herman Cain in the White House."

Drudge Ette, I think Mrs. Cain might have an objection. Would you settle for the Lincoln Bedroom with an old Jimmy Stewart movie?

Timothy L. Pennell| 9.26.11 @ 6:33AM

It's about time.
Herman Cain is EXACTLY the man to beat Obama. A businessman who knows how to get things done. Knows how to turn thing around.
As the Boy, raised in Indonesia, is wont to say: Let's do the MATH.
All of the Republicans + All of the Conservatives + some of the Democrats and Liberals, who would otherwise be afraid to be called a Racist + a lot of the Black Vote who only see COLOUR, when they look at a Politician = LANDSLIDE.
Get the Picture?

Brian Mc| 9.26.11 @ 7:15AM

Well put, TLP. Had often heard rumors about him over the years, his resurrection of Godfather's...but when the wife and I googled some of his speeches, we were on board 100%. A true patriot with passion and heart and an ability to communicate unmatched by the rest. My only shock is that it took so long for him to step forward and show more promising numbers.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 10:56AM

TLP,

Look at the other side of the equation, BHO's

Obamacare disapproval polling + record length recession + Moochelle's vacations + Barry's improved golf swing + Palestine's UN vote + Gitmo open + Eric Holder justice + crony capitalism squared = negative landslide.

Man, I hope we don't screw this one car funeral up!

DTOM

Boar Hunter| 9.26.11 @ 1:35PM

...as a side benefit, wouldn't it be a truly marvelous turn of events to have a real "Black Man" elected president?

Would the election of Obama's polar opposite, a conservative, God fearing, "Black Man" who actually loves America and represents a true American success story change the political dialog much?

What if the same America being systematically dismantled by the current regime was "historically" turned around because of the actions of a different type of "Black Man."

Obama gave us despair cloaked in useless bromides and platitudes. His only plan has been the destruction of America, his enemy, all while the left smears us as everything they themselves are guilty of.

Maybe it's time for Obama to be thrown out of office by the mob of racist, Tea Party terrorist, son's of bitches they fear and replaced with a real "Black Man"...Oh wait, that can't be right...can it?

It took Carter to give us Reagan, maybe it took Obama to give us Herman Cain.

God's speed sir and good luck to Herman Cain. America might just be saved after all.

Occam's Tool| 9.26.11 @ 1:57PM

In addition, Mr. Cain is fully Black, not half Communist White.

Alan Brooks| 9.26.11 @ 6:59PM

Cain = McCain

idalily| 9.26.11 @ 9:10PM

How so?

Teaghan| 9.26.11 @ 6:38AM

I like not only his business sense, but his kind, positive attitude. What would the left say if we elected a black man to the White House? I can see their attacks on him with their racist rants, calling him an uncle Tom, a traitor and Jeanene Garafalo would somehow find a way to keep us labled as racists nazis.
I could get on the Cain Train!

Stefan Stackhouse| 9.26.11 @ 9:31AM

The lefties can try that, but they will only succeed in making themselves look utterly rediculous.

The Big E| 9.26.11 @ 12:11PM

Lefties don't have to TRY to make themselves look utterly ridiculous. Just check Jack in Wi.'s post above . He looks utterly ridiculous without any effort whatsoever.

Occam's Tool| 9.26.11 @ 1:58PM

Jack's not a Liberal, he's a PAULBOT.

The Big E| 9.26.11 @ 4:28PM

You're right. I sometimes have a hard time telling one form of insanity from another.

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 5:49PM

He's better than a Paulbot. He's a ZOG paulbot, thats kind of like the SS of paulbots, ooooopss, SS, freudian slip there.

Jack in Wi.| 9.26.11 @ 6:25PM

Ha Ha Ha. Last week the boys were pushing Perry. This week they re pushing Old Herm. Who is next weeks flavor, fatso Christie? There is only one thing these boys care about. That is Middle East policy. Old Herm has bent down to kiss the Lobby's rear end. Therefore he will never get my vote.

Mike D.| 9.26.11 @ 9:26PM

Ha Ha Ha Ha, just remember jackboot have somebody put the silverware away when paul gets mustered out. Oh, jackboot, thats jewish lobby. C,mon, your out remember.

Clint | 9.26.11 @ 7:44PM

The Bibibots Are In The Building.

irish19| 9.27.11 @ 10:22PM

But yet, one of your Tea Party Co-Favorite Candidates, Sarah Palin (who hasn't yet decided, but generally comes in ahead of Paul in polls when she's included), is four-square behind Israel. Thus making her, by your definition (if I understand your definition) an Odious Israel=Firster. Please square your support of Palin with that.

Claypoole| 9.26.11 @ 12:16PM

The left will say the same thing about Herman Cain that they said about Justice Clarence Thomas, that is, conservative blacks are not authentic blacks. To be an authentic black, you must stay down on that ol' liberal plantation.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 1:54PM

But every time they do it, their fraud shows just a little more.

DTOM

irish19| 9.26.11 @ 2:37PM

Someone in another thread had a bumper sticker slogan all set: Honkies for Herman!
That would be guaranteed to make lib heads explode.

VBMax| 9.26.11 @ 3:58PM

I'm stealing that slogan!

Quartermaster| 9.26.11 @ 6:25PM

LOL! That there's funny no matter who you are.

Unless your a libtard.

Pecos Pete| 9.26.11 @ 7:09AM

I like Herman Cain as a person and as president. I am soooo tired of professional politicians. I am soooo tired of politicians saying one thing to get elected and then doing another when elected.

Whatever ... we have to vote King O out of office no matter the candidate.

Cain can beat Obama and so could most of the other Republican candidates. Republicans are several months away from nominating a candidate. In the meantime it is fun watching the scramble.

BackToBasics| 9.27.11 @ 12:06AM

from your post - "Cain can beat Obama "

I agree, and although this is obvious to everyone, I am surprised nobody brings up the fact that Cain totally neutralizes the race card issue with Obam. And he's a much better role model for young blacks, or anyone young person than Obam is too!

Add to that the fact the the economy will still be in very poor shape for another 14 long, long months before the elections and Obam is very beatable, I'd say in a ballpark range of 51% to 45% with 4 % for others.

Cain could win without an extra 10-12% of the black vote, but if he could get 15% of the black vote instead of the 5% that a white candidate would get, Obam would be history.

Others criticize him for working with the Fed, a Godfather's Pizza, the Navy, where he was an engineer, and then turn around and criticize him for not having held elected office as if that's all it would take to make him palatable.

Truth is, secretly, the media and Obam are probably MORE afraid of Cain than anyone else in the Republican camp.

He's not perfect but along with his many positive attributes, again, he neutralizes the Media and Dems RACE CARD.

And I think he could win any debate with Obam, hands down.

martin j smith| 9.26.11 @ 7:31AM

I am glad that Cain out did the pack That juggles things up and I like that. But:

Let us not get ahead of ourselves.
You see there is this Obama guy in the WH and his campaign is to smear anyone remotely connected to Republicans. So:

IT IS TIME FOR A LEADER TO STEP FORWARD AND CALL OBAMA OUT NOW.
These debates are the wrong format at this time. What we need are leaders who spell out their vision for America and to call out this So called President.

If there are debates they should focus on really one thing in two parts;

How the candidate will bring hope to America
and why Obama must be defeated !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would also say this: All candidates better bone up on foreign affairs NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

While I am fully aware that " its the economy stupid" is usually the conventional wisdom. Because of our great leader in the WH we can have a major war in the middle -east. So I would advise everyone to be prepared.

But I should add one more little tid bid. We may have war right here at home. Just you wait till we get nearer the election the violence will grow.
Watch Wall Street folks.

Stefan Stackhouse| 9.26.11 @ 9:29AM

OH, I would just LOVE to see an Obama/Cain debate! Herman would just pick him apart and nibble on the bones.

hummer| 9.26.11 @ 9:58AM

AMEN!!! That is one debate that would be worth watching!! The best part of that would be, no one would be able to call Cain a racist, no matter what he said! I love it!!

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 10:58AM

Could Sarah Palin debate Joe Biden, please, please, please, OH PLEASE!!!

DTOM

VBMax| 9.26.11 @ 12:34PM

She did debate Biden in the last election.

Bill B| 9.26.11 @ 1:35PM

And she beat Biden like a rented mule despite the best efforts of Gwen Awful.

Quartermaster| 9.26.11 @ 6:27PM

No need to nibble on the bones. They'd be clean before they hit the floor.

Claypoole| 9.26.11 @ 12:20PM

Barack Obama is inciting race warfare in order to regain his black voters. The incitement will get worse as the campaign progresses, and I would not be surprised to see it lead to violence.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 5:30PM

Isn't that what community organizers do for a living?

DTOM

Al Adab| 9.26.11 @ 7:26PM

Demagogue.

martin j smith| 9.26.11 @ 7:35AM

Yet another point: About FOX NEWS ON LINE>

Look at their headlines the past 2-3 days. They may have been the DNC web site to me. Have other folks felt that way ?

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 10:43AM

mjs,

Somewhere somebody once observed that 'unless consciously driven rightward, all organizations move left through time.'

My theory, Fox News wants to replace one of the Big Three, ABC, NBC, CBS and they are going moderate to get there...

Does anyone really think Bill O'Reilly is looking out for them?

DTOM

Claypoole| 9.26.11 @ 12:23PM

I think you may be referring to O'Sullivan's Rule, put forward by John O'Sullivan, an editor of National Review. He said that any organization not specifically founded as conservative will, over time, be taken over by liberals.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 12:38PM

You betcha, Claypoole. I knew it was an NR author, just couldn't remember which one. In my book, NR is the perfect storm O'Sullivan Rule test case.

Since WFB, Jr. left the helm, NR has hollowed out most notably. I was a subscriber from 1975 - 2002. I followed the Corner from its crude opening days, in 1998(?) to modernity.

I had to walk away - they have lost WFB's pure conservatism and replaced it with the 'must-win' driven moderation that trades in principle for moderate voters. Yuck. They have been uniformly unsympathetic to Mrs. Palin. Nelson Rockfeller would be proud.

But that isn't to say that they're all not conservative, they are just becoming too enamored of the MSM and trying to big up market share from the left side, not the right.

Anyway, that's what I saw at the war...

DTOM

Bill B| 9.26.11 @ 1:37PM

Just as National Review (online at least) has swerved to the left. FoxNews.com has always had a lefty bent to it. Don't watch Hannity and Redeye and be fooled - Fox has lots of lefties.

RCV| 9.26.11 @ 10:05PM

National Review and Fox News have "swerved to the left"? You guys get nuttier by the minute!

Ken (Old Texican)| 9.26.11 @ 7:39AM

Before you folks go loony tunes, you might want to read the article linked here.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion.....migration/

JKS| 9.26.11 @ 7:45AM

The article is no longer available. Please summarize it for us.
Thanks

Ken (Old Texican)| 9.26.11 @ 7:42AM

OOPS, FOX took down their link. Let's try this one.

http://townhall.com/columnists.....ration_lie

John Navratil| 9.26.11 @ 8:13AM

Ken,

Excellent! May I also add that unless you are living under a bridge you pay the property taxes used to fund education.

Sean| 9.26.11 @ 9:31AM

81% of jobs created in Texas went to immigrants. 92% of those jobs went to illegal immigrants. Combine that with the huge increase in government jobs in Texas Perry's record is horrible. He made Texas a sanctuary state for illegals.

Stormzeye| 9.26.11 @ 9:54AM

Perry was unable, for whatever reasons, to explain his state's position on in-state tuition rates for children brought to the US by their wet-back parents. I cannot excuse his inability to communicate an important campaign and social issue to the American people. I am sick and tired of inarticulate Texans. Both Bushes were incapable of explaining their policies and as a result, lost support when they should have been the beneficiaries of good policy decisions.
Reagan was able to make people feel good about themselves and their country. I think Cain can do the same. Unfortunately Perry seems too angry and inarticulate for this role. There is no more important role for a President than making the American people feel confident and safe in their own land.

Jack von Bauer| 9.26.11 @ 7:56AM

No doubt Mr Krauthammer will be pontificating tonight on the "all stars" at how Cain is unelectable and will not win the Rep nomination.

I am not exactly sure how the shrill unhinged leftist moonbats will spin Cain's win as "racist" -- but I'm sure they'll try.

Stefan Stackhouse| 9.26.11 @ 9:28AM

Of course, they were saying pretty much the same thing about Reagan early in the 1980 cycle.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 10:37AM

JvB,

If the moonbattish wish to call Cain a racist, won't that clear the way for throwing the CBC onto fire, too?

I'm just sayin...

DTOM

Jack von Bauer| 9.26.11 @ 2:40PM

Dan -- Never misunderestimate the capacity of the Leftoid Moonbatists to find racism in everything.

Kelly Staples| 9.26.11 @ 8:04AM

Eight years of compassionate conservatism was enough.

Casey Abell| 9.26.11 @ 8:50AM

Guess I better stop with my routine caveats about Intrade as just a goofy hobby site. Because I keep quoting their numbers!

But it's hard to overlook the Intrade line this morning. Romney 47.8% chance for the GOP nom, Perry 24.9%.

If I were Pete Rose and had to bet, I'd say Romney is overbought right now and Perry oversold. Every Perry goof and slip drives his numbers down more. But any minimal display of political competence could start a "comeback kid" story line for Perry.

Still, it's been a real bad week for Rick.

Clint| 9.26.11 @ 9:22AM

Wall Street & The Ruling Elite are setting us up for Their Frontman, Mittens Romney.

Rise Up In Rebellion.

Casey Abell| 9.26.11 @ 9:50AM

The guy who keeps setting us up for Romney is Rick Perry. He keeps up this political clown act, he'll hand the GOP nom to Mitt on a platinum platter.

hummer| 9.26.11 @ 10:11AM

The rebellion had better start soon because if Romney or Perry wins the nomination, we would have to hold our nose in order to vote for either one of then. I'm still hoping Sarah Palin will get in there! She would stand the whole Washington Elite establishment on the run! Thank God.

God Bless America!!

Sean| 9.26.11 @ 9:24AM

Herman Cain
1. Supporter of TARP
2. Endorsed Romney
3. Against auditing the FED
4. For national sales tax without repealing income tax.
5. Worked for the FED

not very conservative.

hummer| 9.26.11 @ 10:13AM

Cain's unwillingness to audit the Fed, is the main problem I have with him!

Clint| 9.26.11 @ 10:24AM

Cain Was Against Auditing The FED, Before He Was For Auditing The FED.

"In an attempt to quell growing distrust, Cain issued a new video that praised Texas Republican, Ron Paul, for his calls to audit the Fed.

“I am thankful to representative Ron Paul for his consistant and steady pressure on the Federal Reserve,” Cain said. “and as chairman of the Subcommitte of Domestic Monetary Policy, he will have oversight of the activities of the Federal Reserve, including, the ability to require an audit of the Federal Reserve Bank. Congressional oversight, and not more commissions appointed by the president, will bring more accountability to the Federal Reserve on behalf of the American people.”

Prester John| 9.26.11 @ 10:42AM

Herman Cain has explicity stated he supports Ron Paul's efforts to do a true audit of the Fed.

Clint| 9.26.11 @ 11:54AM

The Facts Are that Cain Flipped On Auditing The FED.

That's Better Than Where He Stood Up Until Tea Party Pressure Was Put on Him & He Flipped Earlier This Year.

However, Cain Was Against Auditing The FED, Before He Was For Auditing The FED.

" Some people say, we ought to audit the Federal Reserve,” Cain said on the Neil Boortz radio show on December 29, 2010. “Here’s what I do know: the Federal Reserve already has so many internal audits, its ridiculous. I don’t know why people think we’re gonna learn this great amount of information from auditing the Federal Reserve.

“There’s no ‘hidden secrets’ going on in the Federal Reserve, to my knowledge,” Cain continued. “and I tell people, you know, we’ve got 12 Federal Reserve banks, find out which district you’re in, call them up and go from there!

“We don’t need to waste money with another ‘commission,’ or an audit that’s not neccessary.”

Cain, who was the deputy chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City from 1992-1994 and the chairman from 1995-1996, repeated that sentiment during a town hall meeting on January 15, 2011. Arguing that the independent corporation already has many internal audits and regulates itself, Cain advised Tea Party members who brought up the issue to call their local bank and find for themselves about the institution.

Regarding an audit of the Fed, Cain said “I’m not sure if that’s the answer to any problem, other than people think that they don’t want to be audited.”

Cain’s statemnt did not sit well with members of the Tea Party, whom the Republican is said to represent, and a growing consenus within the Party against a loose monetary policy. Online conservative magazine World Net Daily labeled Cain an “elite bankster” who “is far too financially and economically dubious to be given any serious thought as a conservative presidential candidate.”

In an attempt to quell growing distrust, Cain issued a new video that praised Texas Republican, Ron Paul, for his calls to audit the Fed."

Bill B| 9.26.11 @ 1:39PM

Cain changed his mind when he had his radio show because people called in and made persuasive arguments - unlike the lies, spin and crap spewed by you Paulbot cultists.

Clint| 9.26.11 @ 6:50PM

Cain Changed His Mind Because The Tea Party Backed Him Down.

Cain Was Against Auditing The FED, Because He's A FED INSIDER.

Margie| 9.26.11 @ 9:27PM

You're such a fraud.
The TEA party isn't represented by the Paul-bot ilk no matter how much you want it to be so.

You're a master propagandist but your lunacy ruins your chances because you're such a blatant liar.

Herman Cain in his own words concerning the issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk

Boar Hunter| 9.26.11 @ 1:44PM

Prester John:

You would have better luck and more success knocking a hole in a cinder block wall with your head than arguing with Clint.

He is faster than logic and is able to leap tall facts with a single bound.

Gage your success against him by the names he calls you.

Occam's Tool| 9.26.11 @ 2:00PM

Dear Boar: So I'm doin' pretty good? (As we would say in my home town of Chicago).

My man---I LOVE your stuff. Always fun to read, Boar Hunter.

Clint| 9.26.11 @ 6:53PM

Instead of Running Your Big Bore Mouth, Prove The Facts Wrong, Chairman Of The Bores.

You're Scared Of The Tea Party & Our Tea Party Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.

Margie| 9.26.11 @ 8:13PM

Point in FACT:

The lying slanderers say he was against auditing the Fed.

He was not against it. Here's Herman Cain in his own words on the issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk

Dan| 9.26.11 @ 9:51PM

Margie,
If you really want to help Cain the stop saying you like him and support him.

Margie| 9.26.11 @ 10:40PM

Sorry my Catholic friend, but I don't happen to let anyone push me around, especially not those of your hateful ilk!

Dan| 9.27.11 @ 8:06AM

You are the expert on hateful speech, you do it every day.
We are not friends,
You don't have any friends here. Only a few who feel sorry for you.

Margie| 9.27.11 @ 1:28PM

I was mocking you, punk. Of course we're not friends.
Neither are Christians and those of your hateful ilk.

Dan| 9.27.11 @ 4:37PM

OK, Punkette.

Margie| 9.27.11 @ 1:31PM

"For the Word of the cross is foolishness
to the ones perishing, but to us being
saved it is the power of God.
For it has been written, “I will destroy
the wisdom of the wise, and I will set aside
the understanding of the understanding
ones.” Isa. 29:14 1 Cor. 1:18 & 19.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 10:21AM

Sean;

Item 1 - do you know if he still supports TARP? Remember TARP was a game run on the basis of "Your hair's on fire! Panic! Run! We do this now or we'll all be killed! "

Item 2 is kind of inoperative now, isn't it? He's trying to beat the guy now.

Items 3 and 5 might cancel each other out because as an employee of the Fed he might know that it's not so bad. Or 3 and 5 might reinforce each other. We need to learn more (Okay, maybe I need to) about this. The FED, unlike Fannie and Freddie, seems to have been part of the problem and part of the solution over its history.

Item 4. If Congress will come clean on when and how the insurance policy they shoved down our throats under the name of Social Security became an "entitlement," I might be ready to stomach a consumption tax, as long as the other two 'nines' were all that was left after a complete personal/corporate income tax overhaul that left only absolutely flat taxes in place.

When I say flat, I mean "your taxes on the $10 you made last year are $0.90, where the hell is our $0.90' flat. No damn deductions, no damn minimums, no damn brackets, just send in your 9%, and send it in now! We don't care how you made it, where you got it, what color you are, who you are married to, who your mama is, whatever, just send in your 9%...now, Mr Soros!

Anyway, my mind is open.

DTOM

PS

Didn't the Feds used to prosecute gangsters for tax evasion just to get them out of circulation? Anybody hear of the Feds prosecuting any bad guys lately? All I have been hearing about for years was politicians, and people violating the EPA, the NLRB, and other 'I'm here from the government to help you types." Has America gone straight? Have the Feds gone crooked? What's up with that? DH

Sean| 9.26.11 @ 11:28AM

Dan,
1. He wrote an article in support of TARP. I don't think he was panicked into voting for it. If he was panicked into voting for it then that is still a strike against him.
2. Supporting Romney shows me that out of all the candidates to endorse he picked one of the most liberal ones.
3. The FED has huge power. They can manipulate interest rates and devalue our currency at will. Cain may have changed his mind on an audit now that it is popular.

4.I think the 9-9-9 plan without a high deduction will be a tax increase for most people. The problem of government is on the spending side. Also to prevent abuse you would need a Constitutional Amendment stating the top income tax can only be 9%. The left has been pushing a national consumption tax for a long time. If one was implemented they would in the future also raise income taxes again.

I think Cain is better than Perry or Romney from what he says, but I would like to see him in a lower office first to see how he votes.

Occam's Tool| 9.26.11 @ 2:01PM

You know, if the 50% of peeople who don't pay taxes had to pay 9%, they would start paying attention as to how that money is spent.

irish19| 9.26.11 @ 2:47PM

And that, I think, is the main point of Cain's plan. Everybody pays, everybody has skin in the game. Therefore, they would be intensely interested in where and how that money is being spent.
Sean's last point, call it 4b, is well-taken. Maybe a bit over-cautious given the current situation, but well-taken nonetheless.

DRed| 9.26.11 @ 6:54PM

Except the majority of that 50% do pay taxes. For a smart guy, Occam, you say some dumb stuff from time to time.

RCV| 9.26.11 @ 10:11PM

Virtually everyone with any kind of job pays 17% of their earnings in payroll taxes, aside from any income tax the pay or don't pay. What that means is that even the working poor pay a greater percentage of their total income than most millionaires and virtually all billionaires.

Nick| 9.26.11 @ 11:36PM

RCV,

It all depends on how one defines income, doesn't it? Liberal democrat elites are just as much to blame for our disastrous tax code as are Republicans.

Where are you getting this 17% figure? Is it specific to California? Employees pay 7.65% of their weekly income towards Socialist Security and Medi-scare. From where does the other 9.35% come? If federal income tax is not included?

If one is self-employed, he pays 15.3% of his income in F.I.C.A. taxes. That still leaves 1.7%. But, you did state that you were referring to those with virtually "any kind of job." I infer this to mean an employee earning an hourly wage, or a salary.

RCV| 9.27.11 @ 1:46AM

Nick - you're absolutely right. The 17% figure I picked up included average income taxes paid. The payroll tax figure is indeed 7.65, plus state parole taxes such as SDI in California.

Sean| 9.27.11 @ 9:57AM

You forget the employer contribution, which is hidden and makes it higher. To be fair to Cain he is getting rid of the payroll taxes in his plan

Stefan Stackhouse| 9.26.11 @ 9:25AM

Herman Cain is no Ronald Reagan. However, with his ability to electrify audiences when he speaks, his solid common sense conservativism, and his genial good humor, he is about as close as you are going to get this electoral cycle.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 9:57AM

Stefan,

Where do you think he differs? Could you give some specifics?

Thanks

DTOM

Stefan Stackhouse| 9.26.11 @ 1:35PM

I think he compares pretty well. Being CEO of Godfather's doesn't quite stack up with being Governor of California, and Reagan was clearly far better informed and articulate about foreign policy and national security issues than Cain.

Remember that between his decades in movies and TV, the Calif. Governorship, three Presidential campaigns, radio commentaries, etc., Reagan in 1980 was probably one of the most well-known public figures to ever run for President. Cain, in contrast, is still a big unknown to a lot of the population.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 2:12PM

Stefan;

I have visited President Reagan's Library, and, sadly his grave.

Yes he was a movie personality and thus well known - but that also carried with it the Bonzo movies' anchorweight. A lot of people denigrated him because of those decidedly non-serious films. His GE spokesman role and television series were a fantastic opportunity for him to develop and disseminate his fundamental conservatism. (My how far GE has fallen!)

But the statist Republican establishment fought him until they lost, from 1976 through 1980. When the final national polls were taken in October 1980, Carter still led Reagan by 10 points.

We don't have another Reagan waiting in the wings to save us. We've got to work with who we have, and do so now. It is the price of freedom.

DTOM

PS - I was discussing politics with my wife, she wondered where we would go if it got worse here. I reminded here that Alec Baldwin and Barbara* Streisand both said they were going to leave if Bush won again. They are still here, and we don't have the financial capabilities they do. We're here and we're staying.

We must follow the old Greek commander who told his troops upon debarking from their ships onto the enemy's beach: "Burn the boats, burn them all!"
RWR did observe that this is freedom's last bastion...

PPS I still think Sarah Palin is the closet thing to Reagan in fifty years-but his hair might have been better...his voice, vocal modulation are. DH

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 5:40PM

I did spell Mrs. Streisand's first name not as she spells it but as the name is properly spelled. I did so intentionally. I hope it annoys her as much as she annoys me.

The girl can sing, but she should never say anything out loud that was not written by some else. Ever.

Don't tread on me.

vonda| 9.27.11 @ 1:14AM

Kenya Smith
Herman Cain bio: ■Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics. ■Master’s degree in Computer Science. ■Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist). ■Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola. ■VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation). All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers! ■ Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers. ■Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months. ■In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry. ■He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side. Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again! ■Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses. ■Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system. After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time! ■Cain has authored four books: Leadership is Common Sense (1997), Speak as a Leader (1999), CEO of SELF (October 2001), and They Think You're Stupid (May 2005). He also authored an article titled "The Intangibles of Implementation" in the technical journal Interfaces (Vol. 9, No. 5, 1979, pp. 144-147), published by the Institute for Operations Research and the Management Sciences (INFORMS). ■Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country). He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking—Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century

Chris Pedersen| 9.26.11 @ 9:44AM

Cain also supports the "Fair Tax Plan" HR-25, that ends ALL "Class Warfare" games stripping ALL politician's POWER of implimentation. Too bad the "New" Media of alternative Conservative websites can't find a joint effort to educate the American People, that they are allowed to KEEP ALL OF THEIR MONEY EVERY PAYDAY when HR-25 is passed. See; fairtax.org for all the information.

Remember, Only a Fooooool would argue AGAINST Keeping ALL of THIER OWN MONEY!

The bigger fools are ALL those in the "New Media" who don't write about it, while chasing Warren Buffet, including the writers at this website.

Abolish the IRS a/k/a the Internal Racketeering Service of The United States Of La Cosa Nostra America! The true Mafia against the American Tax Payers including "Juice" "Penalties" et. al.

The Big E| 9.26.11 @ 9:46AM

Herman Cain has one stellar quality which I don't see in any of the others - he's smart enough to know what he doesn't know.

A lot of people say they're tired of career politicians, or they complain about politicians who say one thing to get elected, but who then do something completely different once in office. I've may those complaints myself in the past.

But isn't the thing that really galls us is constantly listening to people who talk like they think they know everything? Isn't is true that what we're really sick and tired of are candidates who claim they have ALL the answers, when everyone knows that's simply not true?

Maybe your experience is different than mine, but it seems to me that, over the years I've dealt with people, I've learned that whenever I meet someone who already knows everything, I'm actually dealing with someone who knows very little at all; and every time I meet someone who's confident they have all the answers, someone who can never, never be wrong about anything, I'm actually dealing with someone who has a serious confidence problem, someone who who's trying to compensate for their perceived inadequacies by never, ever, ever admitting that maybe, someone out there is smarter than they are.

Herman Cain strikes me as someone who is smart enough to know what he doesn't know, and man enough to listen to those who do.

I know all the "pundits" say he cannot win. But the more I hear of him, the more I can't help but think he's the right man for the job.

cowgirl| 9.26.11 @ 11:51AM

"Herman Cain has one stellar quality which I don't see in any of the others - he's smart enough to know what he doesn't know"

A quality that the dingbat in the White House truly lacks....

Stefan Stackhouse| 9.26.11 @ 1:38PM

As Rumsfeld famously said, "there are known unknowns, and then there are unknowns. . ."

And then you've got Obama. . .

Bill B| 9.26.11 @ 1:40PM

Reagan said that in more than one meeting

Occam's Tool| 9.26.11 @ 2:05PM

Cowgirl and Big E---I totally agree. I hope he can keep this up. Cain is a good guy who thinks. His degrees, by the way, were in the hardest and purest of the hard sciences, if I recall---undergrad degree in Mathematics from Morehouse in 1967 and Master's in Computer Science---FROM PURDUE, a great engineering school---not law.

The man can think and reason brilliantly. Plus, he specialized in business turnarounds.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 9:52AM

So let's say that Herman does launch, does this mean I should get out my old McCain/Palin stuff and start crossing out the "Mc"'s? (Sorry, RSM..)

More seriously though, would this candidacy get all those who voted for BHO in 2008 out of some unarticulated desire to disprove 'American racism' to vote again for the selfsame reason?

Wouldn't this deliver a lightning bolt and thunderclap to American blacks (or whatever you call yourselves) that there actually are two parties in this country? And they have been voting for the party NOT 'looking out for them?'

Would any other candidacy render the 'GOP racist' bologna so completely useless, ineffective?

Couldn't Herman Cain, a man of much darker complexion than the black-lite of BHO, stand up to Al 'Fingers' Sharpton, Charlie 'Fingers' Rangel, Jesse 'Fingers' Jackson both Jr. and Sr., Maxine 'Fingers' Walters, and all the rest of their race-baiting and race-hustling ilk and shut them up for once and maybe all?

And, should he win, will we be subjected to historians arguing in perpetuity over who the first "black" president was? Would BHO get an asterisk for only partial completion on that point?

Herman Cain, he is conservative, no doubt. And I get his 9-9-9 plan; it's got sound foundations-there's even a part I don't like, the middle 9, so I'd be 'eating my peas.'

We shall see, we shall see. I can't say I saw this a-coming, but if this train does arrive at the station it could be a good thing.

Don't Tread On Me.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 9:55AM

DOH!

Sorry, Congressperson Fingers Waters, somehow I snuck a little 'el into your name above...

Paging Dr. Freud, paging Dr. Freud...

DTOM

Boar Hunter| 9.26.11 @ 1:49PM

LOL, sorry I got a bad visual on the "fingers Waters"

Occam's Tool| 9.26.11 @ 2:06PM

Jeez, Dan, I'm not sure what to make of that....maybe it doesn't matter at all? She's an asshole by any other name, and will smell as foul...

;-)

GW| 9.26.11 @ 12:03PM

The problem with your analysis is that it assumes whites have to prove to liberals and blacks that they aren't racists. Liberals and blacks will stop playing the race card when it becomes disadvantageous to play. It has nothing to do with rational or coherent argument. Nominating Cain won't draw in many blacks or shut up MSNBC about racism.

Herman Cain should be nominated not because he is black but because he is intelligent, wise, patriotic, conservative, charismatic, and a good speaker/debator. These are all electable qualities, and many voters of Obama would have said Obama had all of these qualities (besides being conservative).

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 1:32PM

GW,

You missed my points completely.

I stated that those who voted in 2008 to disprove their own racism, might do so again, as this candidate was from the opposite side. Note, if you think it through, their vote proves the exact opposite! Put simply their logic is , "I'll vote for the black guy, see I'm not racist!" This is inherently racist thinking.

My observation was that this confused thinking, which I associate mostly with the less-attentive, less-informed, often more moderate voters would redound to the benefit of a Cain candidacy. I did not and do not suggest that this is a good reason to support a black candidate.

This is a happenstance, similar to the 'favorite son" benefit that accrues to candidates from big states. Only a thoughtless voter would support a candidate from a big state solely because of his 'favorite son status.'

My other point was that conservative candidate Cain might inspire black voters, who have for over a generation voted 90%+ Democrat, to revisit their own voting behavior and thinking about politics. He might inspire them to become better informed about our actual political process, i.e. become better citizens.

Again this is happenstance, not a fundamental reason in favor of a Cain candidacy. Of which I am not yet convinced.

If you take a moment a peruse my other postings on this article and others in AS, you will note, hopefully, that I am in fact a principled conservative who abhors the socialist tendencies that have been overtaking our country since before Upton Sinclair wrote "The Jungle." These tendencies rely on thoughtless, short-sighted, selfishness over the wisdom in our country's founding.

As a serious supporter of Constitutional government, I hate the notion of uninformed voters. But they make up a reality that I hope we can change.

Don't tread on me...

Stefan Stackhouse| 9.26.11 @ 1:40PM

Just ask the race-baiting, race-hustling crew if they think that America is ready for a SECOND African-American President. That should do it!

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 2:13PM

Wish I coulda said it so pithily!

DTOM

no hussein 2012| 9.26.11 @ 3:37PM

The first mulatto race baiter pretty much closed that door.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 5:43PM

nh12;

Only to those who have difficulty seeing past skin color all the way through to the content of character...

DTOM

irish19| 9.26.11 @ 2:53PM

"get out my old McCain/Palin stuff and start crossing out the "Mc"'s?"
That would possibly save some dough on new stuff.

martin j smith| 9.26.11 @ 10:04AM

The real test ( for me ) as to my preference of candidate will be this one: Who tells the People the truth about our situation and Obama specifically and who shows leadership in putting out proposals and calling out the Socialists and Obama now, not later NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Cain could be the one, others also could.
but though I would vote
for all but Ron Raul and John Huntsman I see both Perry and Romney with strong weaknesses.
Gingrich has baggage too but I think the last two have bigger baggage.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 10:33AM

mjs;

I'm swiping "strong weaknesses." Hope you see it as the flattery it is...

DTOM

Clint| 9.26.11 @ 10:35AM

All this is moot, if republicans don't stop Wall Street's & The Ruling Elite's Frontman Mittens Romney.

Rise Up In Rebellion.

no hussein 2012| 9.26.11 @ 10:53AM

No Cain, 999,999,999,999,999,........

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 11:01AM

no hussein,

Are you channeling Sgt. Schultz?

Is Mr. Cain?

'remember Hogan's Heroes?

HeeHaw...

no hussein 2012| 9.26.11 @ 11:18AM

english, German or any other language, no Cain.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 1:35PM

no hussein,

Just curious, why not?

DTOM

no hussein 2012| 9.26.11 @ 2:04PM

Because white guilt won't fly this time.

Jack von Bauer| 9.26.11 @ 2:54PM

I agree with that.

I also think the Bradley Effect is in effect this time -- and that explains so-called "polls" which purport to show that Obama remains "personally" liked despite his policies being at Nixon level unpopularity.

That's good news for Reps, as the smug narcissist dear leader believes the people love him.

Lauaghable, I know.

irish19| 9.26.11 @ 2:58PM

I see that as more of a negative for zero than for Cain.
I think some additional explanation would be in order.

no hussein 2012| 9.26.11 @ 3:18PM

let me put it this way, the only reason Cain is running is because the hussein played the ultimate race card, clear enough!

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 6:07PM

nh12;

How perchance is it that you know the motives in Herman Cain's heart? Did he tell you? Has he written of his reasons?

In my experience two things drive all candidates: either what the office can do for the candidate or what he can do for the office. Usually it is not 100% of one or the other; it's sort of a blend with some candidates being more to one extreme than the other.

There is a complicating factor: what one candidate thinks is doing for the office might be a voter's perception of 'undoing' the office.

For example: Does anyone think that BHO thinks he's wrecking the country? I imagine not, unless he actually is Satan incarnate; I think that he believes (quite wrongly!) that is rectifying our past "mistakes."

That the Presidency is doing more for him than he is doing for it can be measured by comparing the improvement in his golf handicap or his bank balance over the last 34 months to, say, the decline in our credit rating, or our national debt situation over the same time period. I'm thinking the office is doing way more for him than he is doing for it.

Since Herman Cain has no track record in office, his rationale for seeking the office is pretty hard to infer. Do you know something that others don't?

nh12, I'm not spitting at you, honest. I just think you are maybe reading more into his actions than is reasonable.

But if you have facts contributing to your belief, bring 'em on.

DTOM

Beau Blotz| 9.26.11 @ 11:05AM

Just remenber one thing folks and this is a warning and an admonion to certain yahoos here. Polls don't mean a lot. At his time in '07 Capt. McQueeg was sunk, toast. The first primary ballots are months away. Most of your prognostications are without substance and will be proven wrong.

loulou| 9.26.11 @ 11:09AM

My enthusiastic support for Herman Cain has nothing to do with his booming voice and speaking style. He is the best of the lot. His Florida victory is a game changer.

I guess these "debates" have value after all. Perry was exposed as a Bush and can be discarded at this point. Don't let the GOP establishment foist another looser on us. WE decide.

GW| 9.26.11 @ 12:17PM

Not so fast about Perry. While I abhor his Hispandering to the illegals, he has solid federalist tendencies, including pro-10th amendment and anti-regulation. GWB never called Soc. Sec. a "Ponzi Scheme."

irish19| 9.26.11 @ 2:59PM

"Hispandering" Love it!!

Sara | 9.26.11 @ 6:29PM

Well, Perry is right about Social Security. It is a Ponzi scheme. He was almost right about the HPV vaccine; it should have been for both boys and girls. (Anybody here old enough to have a smallpox vaccine scar? Or remember polio? Those diseases are with us no longer, because the government mandated vaccinations for all children. Why not wipe out a disease that causes cancer in men and women?) Perry's problem is that he doesn't seem to have the verbal ability to defend his decisions or visions, most of which seem okay to me. Cain does not have that problem. He relies on logic and thinks well on his feet. He may save us from the "inevitability" of Romney.

Al Adab| 9.26.11 @ 7:18PM

And if the do-gooders had not banned DDT, malaria would be gone too. None of the candidates so far seem to have had the "electric moment" that defines the race. It will come and from then on it's up to all of us to defeat what we currently have. Remember that it was change for its' own sake that got us in this mess.

idalily| 9.26.11 @ 9:19PM

True all that!

Jack von Bauer| 9.26.11 @ 2:55PM

He does have a magnificent voice though.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 9.26.11 @ 11:35AM

This is the best news I've heard in a long time. SOMEBODY TRY TO WIPE THE SMILE OFF MY FACE!!

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 9.26.11 @ 11:37AM

Obama = The era of "racial healing"

Herman = The era of "get the hell over it"

LOLOLOL

Margie| 9.26.11 @ 8:16PM

Very gooood!

GW| 9.26.11 @ 12:19PM

Cain is my favorite so far. Why? Because he has a plan. Agree with it, disagree with it, debate it, discuss it, lie about it, whatever. But the man will at least tell you a specific list of things he will attempt to accomplish as president.

Sean| 9.26.11 @ 12:29PM

Everyone running has a plan.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 1:51PM

I contend that a 59-point economic plan is not a viable 'political plan.' It is document of sufficient complexity as to be inherently forgettable.

Think of it like this: if everybody just remembered one of the 59 points, when a President acted contrary to one of the points, only 1 in 59 people might grumble, making political response very difficult to mobilize.

Ronald Reagan was a great President-I say it is because of a very simple reality: Mr. Reagan's heart, head, mouth, and walk all agreed. So any voter considering Mr. Reagan knew where Reagan was going and what he was doing. The voter might not agree with it, but he knew what Reagan would do. And that basic trust is what leadership is all about.

Go back through the list of candidates and see how closely each of their walks and talks agree. The one matching most closely is the best candidate. Americans will vote for that one.

DTOM

PS That's why I am hoping for Sarah. Ain't no daylight between her thoughts and her actions, just about none. And her thoughts are about individual rights and freedoms as protected by Constitutional government. DH

martin j smith| 9.26.11 @ 12:29PM

No Huntsman, No Ron Paul
Yes Cain
Yes if some one else is nominated I will tolerate in varying degrees. Note:
I have problems with all the other candidates but will tolerate them some barely Romney,Christie( if he gets in ) and Perry.
The candidate that has the courage to tell the American people what must be done to fix our nation and who calls out Obama and the Socialists
will be getting my support. Right now I am watching and waiting --I suspect by April or so in 2012 the truth will come out. Maybe before then.

Caine might just be the guy-but-- lets see what happens down the road. A lot can happen.

Occam's Tool| 9.26.11 @ 2:07PM

Don't forget no Gary Johnson--a "me too" Paul.

Al Adab| 9.26.11 @ 6:56PM

OT:
Since we all know what we currently have, we need to identify the best of the alternatives. Remember, as we seek our candidate, that perfection is the enemy of success.

Clint | 9.26.11 @ 7:47PM

Tool Job's A Screwball Israel Firster Bibibot.

Margie| 9.26.11 @ 8:17PM

O.T, is absolutely correct, as usual.
Gary Johnson has not a chance.
Forget about it!

Dave| 9.26.11 @ 12:48PM

Yes... Yes...

Tell them more of the stuff Perry has done here in Texas. Don't elect a RINO. It's worse than electing a Dem cause the RINO is trying to win the deception contest.

Brittanicus| 9.26.11 @ 2:22PM

TAXPAYERS QUANDARY—ILLEGAL ALIEN COSTS

Encouragingly, as the line-up might be for the presidential entries, the race to the White House is gaining speed. More drop-outs are expected? The American people will insist on a formula for jobs, a growing economy and as a third but combustible issue--illegal and legal immigration enforcement. Whether it’s Rick Perry, Mitt Romney or any other of the contenders, they need to start concerning themselves with the American people, not pandering to foreign nationals. In the majority of Constitutional Conservatives minds is Rep. Smith's mandated E-Verify bill H.R. 2885, known as the “Legal Workforce Act." which could make a positive difference in the number of Americans seeking work. As always it’s already got its share of pessimists, leftists and a whole bunch of open border activists, who seem to prefer to see illegal aliens being hired, instead of lawful Americans. It’s further being demonized by the Liberal presses, who have the main captive audience, rather the more informative blogs and pro-sovereignty websites on the Internet. With the Left wing of the press, the facts never see the light of day, just details out of context or plain and simple lies. By Joining THE TEA PARTY, we can alter America’s course and return to the founding US Constitution and laws, destabilized by both political parties. Returning rights to the American People and stop the genuflecting to the Special interests.

E-Verify will join the highly controversial "Secure Communities", The Halt Act (Hinder the Administration's Legalization Temptation Act), The Save Act (The Secure America with Verification and Enforcement Act) and the 287 G police laws that are as necessary as official deterrents, which can eliminate over a period of time decrease the incessant invasion by economic illegal immigrants that trespass into our lands. Any cost that business owners can expect, will largely depend on how sizable their operations are. E-Verify, the federal electronic program checks an employee's legal work status and is a free program available to employers and will be required if “Legal Workforce Act." for new hires under the sanctions law. You can read more about this law, at the (USCIS) U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services website. By being fully informed, you learn that E-Verify is being improved dramatically, not what the pro-illegal immigration want you to think? A New E-Verify development includes a driver’s license check ability.

Mississippi is the first state to make its driver’s license data available to E-Verify, in association, in concert with the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. Call your Senator or Congressman-Women at 202-224-3121 and insist on them voting for the “Legal Workforce Act."

Getting illegal immigration under control will also depend on the American people’s partnership. Seeing any suspicious activity in your workplace, you can call Department of Homeland Security (DHS)'s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) division at 1-866-DHS-2ICE (866-347-2423). Having a suspicion of your employer or possible illegal aliens working elsewhere, is all that’s needed? They realize that you are not an expert on these situations and just need a phone call. There is never enough room to describe what TRUE information can be located in the general press, as many are inhibited by the Special interest groups to fully explain. However--much more in-depth information can be absorbed at non-profit websites, including Judicial Watch, NumbersUSA and nationwide reports at American Patrol.

Where are some of the 8.5 million illegal aliens working, that you might ask? In manufacturing industries as among those non-farming companies currently employing some of the 7 to 8.5 million illegal aliens in our work force. This is a great place to start as a Whistle-Blower, to unveil this illegal market, where Americans could be immediately placed. Assuming that President Obama is and his underlings are going to follow the law, and then the current stream of sweeping ICE raids will continue. If not, you can contact your Congress people and explain your suspicions to them. A website called “WEHIREALIENS” a project of the Fire Coalition can be located on the Internet by typing it into Google. You can leave any suspicious activities and add it to their growing data base of allegedly businesses, which are not following immigration laws.

Then once the border is fully sealed as according to the “2006 Secure Fence Act”; a barrier of two separate fences, stretching from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California, with fast track US Border Patrol roads in between. Two fences instead of partially completed single barrier we have now, will be capable of halting the thousands that dodge past the border, bringing even more poverty and desperate people into frontier states. Then combined with the appearance of 4000 National Guardsman who are fully armed and ready for confrontation throughout this dangerous region. After all—isn’t that what the National Guards are for, to protect Americans from Domestic and foreign enemies?

It is time to remove the estimated 20 to 30 million illegal alien invaders within our borders. IT IS TIME TO CUT OUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION COSTS, INCLUDING THE $113 Billion dollars taken by the IRS and states to supplement these invaders income. It is time to amend the instant-baby-citizenship law (14th Amendment) , as it’s the most expenses burden for taxpayers. Just the TEA PARTY “selected” will enforce the 1986 Immigration enforcement laws and more, together with stopping any further Amnesties of any kind.

Dan Hirsch| 9.26.11 @ 6:18PM

That's swell if we really want the Federal Government to expand it's E-reach into every facet of our lives...

Why don't we just enforce the laws we have, stop writing new laws that have all kinds of surprises in them.

If we have thirty million illegal immigrants in the country, current law makes it illegal to hire non-citizens lacking green cards. So just start at one end of the country and sweep the illegals out of the work force and impose fines on employers failing to comply. By the time you get ten percent of the way across the country, 60 - 70 percent of the illegals will have left in advance of the enforcement action. We have had very high voluntary IRS compliance in the past because the IRS was viewed by residents as being particularly rigorous and effective. If ICE were suddenly seen as rigorous and effective, as opposed to being told 'to go easy on 'em' by pandering politicians thinking they are buying votes, while selling our country down the river, this whole illegal immigration thing would take care of itself.

Where is Obama's dr'uncle anyway. Back in Kenya? I guess not.

DTOM

PattyMor| 9.26.11 @ 4:18PM

I like Herman Cain, but do not like his 999 plan. Why not? Because the history of taxes are that they go up, so the odds of having two taxes increased are the norm. Same history as the VAT in Europe; started out small; now around 20%. If they want a VAT, then get rid of the income tax.

John Navratil| 9.26.11 @ 6:01PM

PattyMor,

The VAT in England started at 15%, if I recall correctly.

A VAT taxes production at every stage. A national sales tax is a tax on consumption. Big difference. Especially when you have to put rules in to measure which expense constitute a value-added to the product and which is not. A VAT is a VERY effective way for government to get its hooks into every level of production and thereby be a most effective tax generator. A consumption tax has the effect to shrinking government expenditures when times are tight.

Two different breeds of cat.

idalily| 9.26.11 @ 9:24PM

Bingo. The difference in impact on the economy is huge. But even a consumption tax MUST have a cap, must be tied to GDP, and must be accompanied by a BBA. Elimination of capital gains tax and a reduction/elimination of all federal income taxes would be nice, too.

Peaches| 9.26.11 @ 5:36PM

Patty, I sort of agree. I would love to throw out our tax system, but I'm wary of any VAT. Let Dems get back in charge and it's sure to go up. I do like Herman Cain, just wondering about one of those 9s.

Timothy L. Pennell| 9.26.11 @ 7:03PM

It's about time.
Herman Cain is EXACTLY the man to beat Obama. A businessman who knows how to get things done. Knows how to turn thing around.
As the Boy, raised in Indonesia, is wont to say: Let's do the MATH.
All of the Republicans + All of the Conservatives + some of the Democrats and Liberals, who would otherwise be afraid to be called a Racist + a lot of the Black Vote who only see COLOUR, when they look at a Politician = LANDSLIDE.
Get the Picture?

Mike Rogers| 9.26.11 @ 9:42PM

RSM, you continue to impress me as one of the best reporters on the campaign trail. It was a privilege to catch up with you at RightOnline and in Ames.
Keep up the great work, and I hope you'll be reporting on Herman all the way to the White House.

POST American| 9.26.11 @ 11:22PM

------Great '90's Show' SAP OP and DIS-traction.

NOW, how about a little coverage of, not only,
the awesomely unfolding Globalist RED China
TREASON OP ---but, the progress of the greatest
world nuclear disaster and -budding DEPOP OP,
of all time, ---the HAARP-esque ---FUKISHIMA.

Augusta| 9.27.11 @ 8:41AM

Perry throwing that lefty crap at us is unacceptable and outrageous. We are fed up with our children's birthright being handed to non-citizens. Why is my child working two summer jobs to afford school while her tax dollars are being used to give the children of illegals free education - free everything? Illegals are draining this country - it doesn't matter if their motives are good or bad, the fact is we are broke! Why aren't we doing more to help LEGAL immigrants - folks in the process, diligently working toward citizenship? I am sick and tired of tax payers being last on the list of priorities!!! Care about struggling taxpayers Perry? Care about children of veterans at all? You certainly don't care about the children of legal immigrants - just the illegal ones for some reason. Where's your heart for American children Perry?

back trackin'| 9.28.11 @ 2:08AM

You know what our main problem is? Republicans are faced for the first time, since we elected Eisenhower, with having to choose a candidate who is not an incumbent president or vice president - - and we just are not up to the task.

Think about it, we chose the war hero General Eisenhower. He got his two terms and his vice President Richard Nixon was the obvious candidate. We did not have to make a choice out of 8 candidates.

Joe Kennedy bought the election for JFK. Then LBJ inherited the office for awhile
Then Nixon comes back. Nixon resigns in disgrace partway through his second term, appointing Ford.

Again, we do not make the choice - Gerry Ford runs and hands the office to Jimmy Carter with his remark that Poland is not living under Communist rule.

So after one miserable 4 year term of Carter, Ronald Reagan, in the last convention that mattered, won the nomination. Beats Carter and then beats Mondale. Serves his two terms and hands the reins to GHWBush, who flubs his second term by sticking with Dan Quayle and then looking at his watch during a debate, in which a black woman was asking him a question. The smarmy Thousand Points of Light dreamed up by Peggy Noonan didn't help. Not to mention the READ MY LIPS - - NO NEW TAXES.

RNC, for reasons best known to smoke-filled back rooms, choose Bob Dole to match up against the second term of Clinton . That worked out well - but it was a familiar name.... and it was his turn.

After Bill Clinton, another familiar name, George W. Bush spares us scrutinizing every candidate - who even remembers the hopefuls of that year? (Personal note: I am glad they did. I wish they had invoked the Roosevelt rule - he could have won a third term over Obama)

Bush gets his two terms and what do Republicans do? Dust off that old hot-doggin' carrier pilot, Vietnam POW , John McCain - the "next in line" thinking, again.

So here we are, all a-tremble at the prospect of having to actually study the candidates and make an informed decision. We make a new decision after every debate. Pitiful.

Looks like Romney will be "next in line". Oh, woe.

If I have any of the above out of order, well, I wouldn't be a bit surprised. It's OK, though. For most folks history began right after breakfast this morning.

Vasu Murti| 9.29.11 @ 1:16PM

Like George W. Bush around 1999-2000, telling conservative Christians he would never knowingly appoint LGBTs to his cabinet, Herman Cain now says he won't appoint Muslims to his cabinet, either.

Article VI, Section 3 of the Constituti­on says: “No religious test shall be required as a qualificat­ion to any office or public trust under the United States.”

An anti-feder­alist in North Carolina wrote in 1787:

“The exclusion of religious tests is by many thought dangerous and impolitic. Pagans, Deists and Mohammedan­s might obtain office among us.”

The Constituti­on doesn't mention “God,” “Jesus,” or “Christian­ity.”

References to religion are exclusiona­ry, like the “no religious test” clause (Article VI), and “Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishm­ent of religion or prohibitin­g the free exercise thereof.” (First Amendment)

The presidenti­al oath does not contain the phrase “so help me God” nor any requiremen­t to swear on a Bible (Article II, Section 1).

The words “under God” weren't in the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954, when Congress (under McCarthyis­m), inserted them.

Similarly, “In God we Trust” was absent from paper currency before 1956, though it appeared on coins.

The original U.S. motto, written by John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson, is “E Pluribus Unum” (“Of Many, One”) celebratin­g plurality and diversity.

In 1797, America made a treaty with Tripoli, declaring: “...the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

This reassuranc­e to Islam was written under Washington­’s presidency and approved by the Senate under John Adams.

I wonder if a century ago, conservative politicians were saying they never appoint *blacks* to their cabinet!

Herman Cain betrays the Constituti­on. Secularism protects religious minorities *and* religion itself­.

T. Beth| 9.29.11 @ 4:49PM

Are these Candidates really the best we can do? We need someone that is a good speaker and debates well. I see Cain as the best speaker thus far and can hold his own against Obama. Perry-No, Romney-no, Bachmann-definitely no.
Paul best intellectually and I think best for the Country; but poor speaker and will probably perform below Obama in National Debates. We can do better. I believe it is the job of the GOP to identify and back Candidates that have a good chance of beating Obama. I believe Obama is an excellent debater and speaker and our Candidate must be equally as good.

We can and must do better

antidote| 9.29.11 @ 6:40PM

Once again Floridians embarrass themselves in front of the nation. Cain? Really? He has as much chance as McCain. Can you say "Four more years!" Repugnantcans have no chance of winning the White House with any of the Clowns in that bunch!