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South Alabama Science Teacher| 9.23.11 @ 7:15AM

Yeah. Uh huh.

The Tea Partiers can set this country on the right track, solving all of our economic problems almost immediately.

And as for their educational ideas, mandatory teaching of creationism and "Intelligent Dezine" will top the list.

And the TeaTea partiers will oppose any attempts to stop bullying in the schools--especially if those being bullied are sexually different from the norm. And God help those poor students who do not adhere to the rigid stereotypes of gender identity.

I know personally some of those misinformed yokels Hilyer triumphs. Yeah, the Tea Partiers have a lot to offer--a lot of shit, that is.

Deborah D| 9.23.11 @ 8:38AM

Oh, good grief. Bullying has always been with us. Good moral values will make sure the older, bigger kids look out for the weaker, smaller ones regardless of gender or sexual identity. You and your straw man arguments are ridiculous. We have a country to save so get over yourself.

crookedwren| 9.23.11 @ 9:20AM

Wow. We've been stereotyped! I thought the Left didn't think stereotypes were fair. Guess it's okay to stereotype (ridicule and demonize) anyone who disagrees with the ruling elite.

As for those "poor students who do not adhere to the rigid stereotypes of gender identity," the Judeo-Christian values of individual liberty protect them from the fate they would receive in countries where Sharia law prevails.

Conservatives do not believe in bullying.

Conservatives do not believe in group-think.

You're confusing true conservatives with some really nasty Democrats who have, in the past, bullied those who are "different." Believe me, those southerners who you describe in your comment voted for Democrats. You know that's the truth. They would NEVER vote Republican.

You might want to read some Ann Coulter. She actually gives SOURCES for her claims.

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 10:19AM

Science teacher?

Again proving the old saw, those who can't, teach. Obviously this so-called science teacher believes in the never yet accomplished "settled science."

The flat earth was "settled science."

The existence of ether was "settled science."

The four elements were "settled science."

Hell's bells Keynesian economic theories are considered by the entire Obama Administration as "settled science" even though they've only run one trial experiment and it has failed spectacularly...

Didja see the article on Drudge about the fact that the researchers at Cern are calling Einstein's theories into question?

Settled science is as real as leprechauns, pixies, and the "Piltdown Man" proving evolution.

Don't Tread On Me.

Melvin| 9.23.11 @ 11:48AM

There is any easier way to all this. Give parents and students a, "Choice." Give the parents vouchers so that they can send their children to the school and the curriculum they chose.
Why send students and force the parents to support a school system and it's curriculum that teachers social skills rather than life's skills.
You cannot teach or legislate anti-bullying because it favors one side.
It is a well known fact that homosexuals use anti-bullying rules and laws to torment heterosexuals. If you are really a science teacher, you probably already know this, you maybe refuse to admit this.
In my trade we have young men that cannot even to basic math or read a tape measure.
A college student when asked when did the War Between the States take place, the student replied,"1965," and had no clue to the major players but did utter, it was over slavery that started the war.
Again in being that you state that your a science teacher. Science students are only being taught Al Gore's view of Global Warming, instead of instructing the students on both sides and let them come up with their own scientific conclusions. But I'm sure your already teaching this correct?
So who his teaching the, "Shit," as you call it, the kid that applies for a heating and air conditioning job, but cannot read a tape measure or do simple fractions, or letting the parents decide on a school that does teach a student how to read a tape measure and do simple fractions?
By the what what category does your teaching fall into? Never mind it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out, the public already knows.

Dmac| 9.23.11 @ 5:10PM

"especially if those being bullied are sexually different from the norm. " You said it yourself, different from the norm. So if you are different from the norm you should be treated as normal? What part of common sense do you not have?

Tom| 9.23.11 @ 7:19AM

Ditto. In the educational realm, tea parties are all for Dumbing

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They say, "There's no evidence for evolution; Global Warming is a hoax," and on and on ad nauseum.

They're a close-minded bunch, in my opinion.

crookedwren| 9.23.11 @ 9:27AM

Um. When does holding a different point of view become "close minded"?

You and I can disagree.

Why is that considered "dumbing down"?

In fact, the Progressives have produced college students who don't know basic history or fairly rudimentary vocabulary.

I know. I'm shocked every semester.

Dumbing down was Dewey's specialty.

Don't blame that one on us. We prefer individual responsibility and respectful debate, not name-calling, ridicule, demonization, and the other Alinsky tactics. We want our youth to examine many sides to a subject -- in other words, we want to EDUCATE, not INDOCTRINATE.

AU Patriot| 9.23.11 @ 3:49PM

Well said Crookedwren!!!

AU Patriot| 9.23.11 @ 3:49PM

Well said Crookedwren!!!

Nina| 9.23.11 @ 10:24AM

OMG! You are sooo right! There is real proof of evolution! And Global warming! I don't believe there has been anything written to contradict those two issues.... no scientists coming out saying how they lied....no fudged reports. Science is just so perfect, they make no mistakes or lie or cheat or whatever to get their grants...right?

No really, there has been no proof of any of these things and ya know what, so what if I choose to believe I came from a higher power than an ape. Global warming is falling apart, a hoax, scientists being given money to say there is such a thing and who is making money off of that scam? Algore.
And you call the tea party close minded. Are you so scared of people who actually care about people's lives, live trying to be good people (trying, not saying they all are good people), you know, like the Ten Commandments? Is that really scarey or what? Thou shalt not murder, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet they neighbor....hmmm, those are real scary values. No, I think you would rather have the gestapo enter your house for having more than three people in it, regulating how you may want to party with your kids on their bday....that's the ticket!

hummer| 9.24.11 @ 10:46AM

AMEN!! I, too, am a member of the Tea Party, and proud of it! We stand for what is right, not what is "politically correct"! Global warming is a hoax, there are scientist who have agreed that it is but it is still being covered up by the hoax. God is in control and all who have deliberately LIED will stand judgement!

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 10:41AM

Tom;

You are obviously very much smarter than the rest of us.

Why don't you explain to us how the change from 380 parts per million carbon dioxide to 392 parts per million in the atmosphere could raise the sea level by precisely 3' in 100 years. Oops now I think you've only got 88 years. Well, just tell us, Einstein.

Remember you are working on a 4,500,000,000 year old climate system and you only have continuous data from a few local stations going back 134 years. Please remember to factor in the cyclic Ice Ages, random vulcanism, fluctuations in solar flux, the occasional comet, plate tectonics.

Too hard? Okay, try this one: Tell us what the average temperatures will be in 10 years? You cannot. Your "climate scientists" cannot.

OK - Tell us what the average temperature will be in 1 year? You cannot. Your "climate scientists" cannot.

How about just one month? Can't do that either can you, can they?

If you cannot forecast a month, year, or decade, please don't bother us with your fabricated forecasts for 88 years hence.

And if you think that you and I should pay thirty, forty, or one hundred per cent more for energy, because of what you are afraid COULD happen, won't you and your "scientists" at least share the raw data with us? Why do your "scientists" hide their data behind falsely claimed exemptions from Freedom-of-information-act requests?

No, it is not the "deniers" who need to answer, it is the AGW zealots who need to answer questions. Which they won't, because they can't, which falsifies the whole thing.

Am I hiding my head in the sand about AGW? Well, if I am, why are you not making a lot more noise about Coastal Subduction Zones and the imminent massive earthquake and tsunami that have ACTUALLY struck our Pacific Northwest 41 times in the last 10,000 years. Did you happen to notice that tsunamis killed 250,000 plus living, breathing human beings in just the last eight years? Why don't you worry about that? It's not hiding under your bed, in your closet or in the dark; it is as plain as the nose on your face.

If CSZ doesn't cause you to destroy our economy, why the hell should we believe your AGW fairy tale?

Hmmm?

DTOM

Deborah D| 9.23.11 @ 4:42PM

Awesome, Dan! I don't think he has an answer for even one of those observations/questions. He needs more talking points from AttackWatch!

Al Adab| 9.23.11 @ 6:26PM

Anybody remember that the Vikings were farming Greenland around the year 1000AD? Seems like the temps them must have been similar to or above what they are today for that to happen. Gosh, do you think that maybe things change over time? The issue is being pushed by the centralizers for control, nothing else (unless you count the money).

Southern_Comment| 9.23.11 @ 8:19PM

Great post!

And I love that you brought science to the debate as well as the known, but I couldn't help thinking . . . ' Isn't it funny. I can bring up intellicast, the weather channel, accuweather and the list goes on. They're all touting all of the time their technology, but I only get a 10 day forecast that is incorrect most of the time. However, I can go to the Farmer's Almanac, time tested and true and find out what weather to expect this winter. I wonder - is that really progress? Maybe it's apples and oranges, probably is but it struck me funny.

Quartermaster| 9.23.11 @ 5:39PM

There are two forms of evolution, Bubba. One is a fact, the other is a philosophical fantasy. The pseudo-scientists like to conflate the two so they can say there is plenty of evidence for evolution.

Darwinism is just a fantasy. Real evolution has been proven to the point we use it in selective breeding. Real evolution ends with the same kind of animal it started with.

Darwinism ends at a dead end because there is not a shred of evidence in favor of it. The high priests of Darwinism are using the same discredited "evidence" to "prove" evolution that Darwin himself used. The left must hang onto a discredited hypothesis because the only other option is something they can't bring themselves to admit.

There is a God, Bubba. One day God himself with shove that fact down your disbelieving throat, but ti will be too late to save you.

Al Adab| 9.23.11 @ 6:36PM

Adaptation as in breeds of dogs or horses or the races of mankind, is clealy true. Evolution in the sense of speciation is just as clearly untrue.

The Reason The Left is so wedded to the Faith of evolution is as your last sentence notes. Once man is relegated to the animal kingdom his rights no longer derive from a creator- something beyond himself- but can only be granted him by a stronger authority in the tribe or by government. That means that the central authority, government, can grant rights, violate rights and remove rights at its pleasure. This is why the battle for this philosophy is so important.

Margie| 9.23.11 @ 8:37PM

Great post, QM!!
The High Priests of Darwinism, indeed. They call God a liar by replacing the Words of God with their Pap.
LOL.

But God is not mocked! Praise God.

SPQR| 9.23.11 @ 7:33AM

Lived in Alabama for two years. During that time, the only Tea Party activity were demonstrations in Huntsville for MORE government spending on the space shuttle, which was being partly built there. Everybody I met worked at a government job.

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 10:59AM

SPQR:

Did your mother give you that name?

Everybody you met? What percentage of those present was that 100%, 50%, 1%, three people? And how many people were there?

Also please PROVE that there were no other, none, not any Tea Party functions in Alabama other than at Huntsville during your residence in Alabama.

My, but you hyperbolize so. Look it up!

DTOM

PS - Again AS, why does your spell check function not know the word, "hyperbolize?"
My vocabulary isn't that big...
Government employees now get paid 50% - 100% more than those they work for, the civilian workers.

Black presidents are just no damn good.

SPQR

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 11:06AM

Oops, please forgive the random, inexplicable, unsupportable items beneath the PS above. Something got pasted that shouldn't.

Or you can fillet me for bad computer skills. Feel free...DH

Southern_Comment| 9.23.11 @ 8:34PM

That's absolutely untrue. I live in the Guntersville area and work for a major employer in Huntsville. There is of course Red Stone Arsenal and NASA here, but we have a wealth of many other large companies as well. Boeing, Mcdonnel Douglas, SCI, Computer Sciences Corporation, and several others have plants and offices here.
As far as smaller businesses, well considering the incredible lush green rolling hills and one of the best Bass fishing lakes as Huntsville's neighbor, its an outdoorsman's paradise which opens way to lodges and service industry, as well as retail and food. Speaking of restaurants, there's another major employer in Huntsville. Have you ever seen so many restaurants anywhere???? And they're always packed. To say everyone is employed by the government is just not true. When I moved here I was pretty impressed with the technology this town has to offer while still having a small city/large town feel.

Occam's Tool| 9.25.11 @ 10:10PM

Well, SPQR, I lived in Cullman Al and thereabouts for 7 years, and still have family there, as well as a medical license.

Almost no one I knew worked for the Government. If you worked on the Army Base in Huntsville that might have been different.

Now, the Romans are a different story....

Deborah D| 9.23.11 @ 8:33AM

Thanks for this, Quin. I clicked on the link and found an excellent video from the Heritage Foundation there. I posted it on Facebook. We need to revive the American founding and the depressed American spirit.

POST American| 9.23.11 @ 8:51AM

---Drop your FOX scripted 'Tea Party',
and BE Freemen.

As FUKISHIMA fallout goes into its 7th
month of saturating Alabama and the northern
hemisphere with DEPOP 'friendly' fallout
-----STAND UP.

-------------FUKISHIMA

------------------FUKISHIMA

------------Globalism is GENOCIDE-----------------

--------------------------FUKISHIMA

Southern_Comment| 9.26.11 @ 8:16PM

Of course you are aware that if you do not catch it in time syphalis will eat a hole in the skull. Unfortunately it appears that you only see those symptoms after it's too late.

crookedwren| 9.23.11 @ 9:08AM

Yes, Mr. Hilyer, the Tea Party has been busy in their own backyards. There is much work to do.

Since the creation of the Department of Education at the national level, test scores have decreased. I teach at a small, private college, and the lack of a foundation in reading, vocabulary, and history is appalling. Yet such a decline could have been predicted, knowing Dewey and his cohort, their affection for social engineering, their distaste for rooting the young in the ability to think for themselves. Dewey was enamored of the system in the USSR, loathed individual initiative, and brought to Columbia (and from there to pedagogical systems throughout the US) the rubrics of "group" think.

The cure -- as the Founders understood long before Dewey and Marx were born -- is not global, but local.

You mention Agenda 21. Thank you, sir. That takes courage. Your readers should educate themselves on the UN's "Vision for the 21st Century," a document you can find online. One of its foundational principles is the demise of private property-- deemed in that document to be a social evil.

What few Americans realize is that towns and cities throughout the US (more than 600) have signed on to Agenda 21 via an NGO called "ICLEI" (although they've changed their name, so the initials don't "add up" anymore -- the original name was too revealing). Bush Sr. signed onto Agenda 21 when he was President (it wasn't considered an actual "treaty"), thus his verbal allusion to the "New World Order." Clinton, too, came on board with A21 through an Executive Order.

But it is at the local level where A21 has been taking hold, and it is a horror. Here in Virginia, we discovered state legislation that include terrible mandates -- which we are working hard to overturn.

Awakened citizens in towns in Maryland, Tennessee, California, Pennsylvania -- all over this country really -- are working to overturn ICLEI and detach themselves from these ties to the UN and A21.

ICLEI works through deceit. They woo towns with pretty words and phrases, but they lead to a renunciation of sovereignty that is frightening.

I ask your readers to forgive the trolls who commented above (they were certainly educated in the school system Dewey corrupted), but PLEASE research Agenda 21.

It is serious. It is real. It is being enacted in communities throughout these United States. Quietly.

The Marxists learned well that the people of the United States would fall through infiltration, through the slow but sure decimation of our Constitutional Republic.

They are doing it. They've been doing it. They demonize and ridicule all who declare it, but Agenda 21 is just one more serious, clear, and present danger.

Do not be deceived by the wolf in sheep's clothing.

wideawake| 9.23.11 @ 9:44PM

crookedwren, you are spot on!!! I have been studying A21 for almost 2 years and almost afraid to say anything lest people think you are nuts, but the truth of it is our rights are taken away so subtley and wrapped up in "wonderful ways to help the environment green, smart wrapping" that we don't realize we are being dubbed.

Clarityrising| 9.23.11 @ 9:24AM

Wow, south alabama just showed in a nutshell what is wrong with teacher's unions and the current state of public education. No wonder our kids are coming out no smarter when they started. By the way, evolution as the origin of life is still not proven, it is still just a theory. If you disagree with that, then you are no man of science. Neither has man-made global warming been proven, Tom. In fact there is more evidence against that then there is for it, so get over yourself, go re-educate yourself in some school that actually develops critical thinking, not sheeple.

Bruce| 9.23.11 @ 9:37AM

I have one question for evolutionists. If I evolved from something else, where did that something else come from? If that evolved from something, where did it come from? Where did all this "primordial soup" originate?

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 11:04AM

Lucky lightning bolt into lucky, self-replicating complex hydrocarbon puddle of muck, naturally. It happens all the time...Not!!!

I'm always stepping in them, aren't you?

DTOM

Remember the joke about the scientist who challenged God to a contest? Joe Scientist said he could make the universe from dirt, too. Funny, God agreed. So He created another universe. When Joe stepped up to the table to take his shot, he asked for some dirt, to which God replied, "Make your own damn dirt!"

Al Adab| 9.23.11 @ 6:53PM

Rather like Frances Fukuyamas' example of random atoms of hydrogen, oxygen, carbon and iron mingleing around for the age of the universe trying to make hemoglobin.

Kenneth frm Dothan AL| 9.23.11 @ 9:38AM

As believers in the literal interpretation of biblical myths, you want to proselytize your ignorant superstitious drivel.

But you will not get the opportunity. We, the younger generation, will fight your attempts to reject science in favor of religious superstitious dogma, and we will never yield to your ignorant proselytyzing.

Progressives are onward and upward with the TRUTH! We will make this world a better, more ethical environment, where people are given the truth and respected as individuals who have the minds and hearts to REASON.

Con Chef (NB)| 9.23.11 @ 10:05AM

Spoken like a true useful idiot utopian.

Nina| 9.23.11 @ 10:28AM

I can't even comment on these idiots! Poor Ken, swallowed the Kook-aid....

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 11:15AM

They think that Keynesianism is "truth." They think because the word "progress" is contained in their favorite cause, that it will make the world a better place.

Hey Ken!

Have you ever been mugged?

Have you ever been employed?

Have you ever been lied to and figured it out?

I'm betting "no" to all three.

Ken,

Quickie quiz:

Were Marx and Lenin progressive?
Was Chairman Mao progressive?
Was Mussolini progressive?
Was Che Guevara progressive?
Was Pol Pot progressive?
Was the Ayatollah Khomeini progressive?

Do you know how many of their own countrymen these progressives murdered?

Do you really think that you wouldn't have fallen before them, too?

Do you even know who any of those guys were?

Do you have any idea of anything that happened before Bill Clinton became President?

Do you care?

Wise up, laddie, they're making a fool of you.

DTOM

DRed| 9.23.11 @ 12:07PM

To answer your quiz, no, no, no, no, no and no.

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 12:24PM

I "no'ed" that...

DTOM

Emily | 9.23.11 @ 12:47PM

Was Lester Maddox progressive? Are the Ku Klux Klan progressive?

Is David Duke progressive? He's a Tea Partier.

As Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1970s, David Duke urged Klan members to "get out of the cow pasture and into hotel meeting rooms." For the past 25 years, he has increasingly attempted to follow his own advice, by using code words, and increasingly disguising his ideas behind more mainstream conservative-sounding rhetoric. As a result, in 2000 David Duke remains one of the most dangerous extremists in America.

David Duke may run for president in 2012, and he has Tea Party support!

Way to go Tea Partiers! All of you together aren't worth a pile of hog shit.

Clint| 9.23.11 @ 1:58PM

Ya mean like Democrats, Robert Byrd, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Captain Renault, " I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here! "

Jive Bomber| 9.23.11 @ 2:46PM

Dear Emily,
In your missive, you pondered the notion "Was Lester Maddox progressive?"
Gosh Emily, you tell me. After all, he was a democrat. You know, those same democrats responsible for Jim Crow laws and lynching black people for sport? The ones who now title themselves "progressive"? Interesting choice of names. But I suppose when most of the democratic party's history was dedicated to enforcing "whites only" and murdering fellow americans who were a different color, any accomplishments less horrid can be deemed "progressive"

You also had this: "Are the Ku Klux Klan progressive?"
Now Emily, KKK and progressive are words I never use in the same year, much less the same sentence. But, like Maddox, they were democrats. The Klan of today? - kooks who don't even like most white people.

And of course you brought up David Duke. (What would liberals do without Herr Dukemeister?)
Okay, you do realize he's wacko? Sure, like most folks, Duke might have a few (emphasis on might and few) logical ideas regarding government, but his societal beliefs are idiotic. (See: Hitler, Adolf)
Duke is a raving anti-semite with no followers but a fringe element.

And Emily? - There is no official "Tea Party". But if there were, it would have nothing to do with the likes of David Duke. Now, he may want the tea partiers to support him, and no doubt can find some who will, but he'll gladly accept your support, or anyone else's as well.

Duke/Klan = Tea Party is a non-starter. You won't win with that. And, personally, I should think it rather unbecoming of those who boast of being "progressive" if their political campaign strategy is based on running through town beating the bottom of an old pot while blaring "the Klan is coming, the Klan is coming - Vote democrat!" (Now there's an oxymoron!)

Ciao for niao

PS. Hey Emily! Speaking of supporters, shall we name democrats with twisted ideas who appeal to fringe members of their party? Or, how about we discuss that fringe element itself?

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 3:37PM

Emily,

Dear,

I'm going to play your game for a minute:

You say that Tea Partiers aren't worth a pile of hog sh*#. I say that you are!

And, since you know nothing about the Tea Party, I'd also say, you don't know hog sh#*.

Isn't this fun? Don't I look brilliant? No and no.

Emily, if you have something to say, something that reflects something other than silly opinions based on your frightened, uninformed imaginings, say it.

Show us how clearly you reason, show us the error of our thinking, tell us why we are wrong. Argue with us, but do it civilly. By the way, we do not use Democrat civility where we say that so and so thinks you should be hung on trees. A woman's child is a bastard or should have been aborted.

No, we use conservative civility, the kind your mother taught you. Remember, 'please and thank you,' holding the door for others, standing up when someone comes to the table, listening and speaking respectfully.

Try it - you'll be amazed at how much more pleasant your day becomes.

But, if you continue to call us names, you show to one and all how absolutely unintelligent, ignorant, and unserious a person you really are.

Your choice...

DTOM

wideawake| 9.23.11 @ 9:48PM

And Duke has nothing to do with Tea Parties Emily and visa versa...sorry.

Southern_Comment| 9.26.11 @ 8:21PM

Actually, the KKK is Democratic. At least it started that way. To tell you the truth, I have lived in the South my entire life, wouldn't have it any other way, and yet the only person I ever met who admitted to being a member of the KKK was from Long Island.
Also, because you seem a bit uninformed, the Democrats are against the immigration bill passed by this state. Especially the ranchers down south. They, like the Democrats are arguing against any immigration law. They say that it would hurt their farms tremendously to not have the illegal laborers to work their farms. Hmmmm, where have I heard that before? Anyone? Anyone? Yes, it was the same argument, also posed by the Dems, as 'If we don't have our slaves our agriculture industry will collapse. And they call everyone else racists.

ConantheContrarian| 9.23.11 @ 10:36AM

Comrade Kenneth, your prose brings to mind the old Soviet and NSDAP posters of the heroic prole striding forth to . . . to do something. Your worldview ends up as a totalitarian state with big gulags and concentration camps. I have to oppose you and your kind, which are Disingenuous White Liberals.

gh77| 9.23.11 @ 12:48PM

Go tell it to your mule, Conan.

ConantheContrarian| 9.23.11 @ 1:20PM

I guess that I don't get that reference, go tell it to my mule.

Butch| 9.23.11 @ 4:40PM

Haven't heard such intellectualism coming out of Dothan since Bobby Goldsboro sang "Voodoo Woman."

Al Adab| 9.23.11 @ 6:57PM

What was it Churchill said about tyranny supported by the lights of perverted science?

The Left uses its Faith in Science to relegate man to the animal kingdom thereby depriving him of his inate rights and making those rights subject to the approval of governing authority. He is no longer a citizen, but a subject.

wideawake| 9.23.11 @ 9:46PM

What is the TRUTH Kenneth?

markenoff| 9.27.11 @ 12:01AM

Kenneth you are equating intelligent design with biblical literalism. They are not one and the same. Almost every culture has a creation story and almost every one of them attributes the creation of the world and the human race to a higher power. So intelligent design is a multi-cultural perspective. Evolution, however, is a theory posited by dead white European males (DWEMs). Since in the liberal lexicon anything that is multicultural trumps anything developed by DWEMS, intelligent design must be true.

Melvin| 9.23.11 @ 11:52AM

Simple solution. If the Liberals want to teach their quackery, fine let them do it on their own dime. The Government run school system needs to issue vouchers to let the parents decide where their students should go to school and what curriculum that their kids should learn.
Thats right Liberals, Conservatives want, "CHOICE," in our kids education.

888&NOTfullofhate;| 9.23.11 @ 2:52PM

Oh how you hate liberals, blacks, immigrants (mostly Mexican) gays, intellectuals, science, and so on and so on.

You tea party people are destroying my REPUBLICAN PARTY. You're certainly not conservative in the traditional sense, say Eisenhower conservative.

You are hell bent on pushing your retro ideology on our party, and you, unfortunately, are ensuring that Obama is re-elected.

Butch| 9.23.11 @ 4:42PM

Memo to Soros: pay your trolls more and get some better ones. This "Republican" is rather obvious.

Al Adab| 9.23.11 @ 6:48PM

What is it that your Republican Party stands for?

The Conservative movement stands for opportunity, the rule of law, limited government, property rights (including income), and seeks a national government which protects Liberty and the ability of the States to govern themselves, not one which decides which lightbulb a citizen may buy or what car (Chevy volt mandates anyone) a person may own, nor how one may choose to spend his income for optional insurance.

That is called Freedom. Central planning or a government which acts in the belief that it knows best "what is good for us" is not called that. Such a one is known as tyranny.

markenoff| 9.27.11 @ 12:02AM

You make the unwarranted assumption that Eisenhower was a conservative. Please read some history.

Dmac| 9.23.11 @ 5:37PM

Lets put an end to the education system as we know it. Why not all of us Christians, and I mean all 300 million of us just quit paying school taxes. I mean really, why not. We are the ones paying for the schools, we pay almost all of the tax money the districts receive. Lets just say no to the public school system. It has become a place that is dis-respectful to our beliefs and the way we want our children educated. It has dropped education for indoctrination, so lets opt out of it, all of us. We can open Christian schools in its place and send our kids there. Where math, science, history and reading, yes reading that long lost skill, will be taught.
And to the few of you out there that won't have any place to teach your kids, teach them at home and quit expecxting the Christians to pay for your nonsense. You wanna teach your kids there is no God, feel free, you do it, but don't expect a Christian to pay a tax to have it done for you.
It is time we Christians said enough! Enough of this government being run by the few to trample upon the many, enough! It is time we Christian acted just like what we are, the majority. It is time we stood up and and say No More!
This should be a national movement so all the school districts, the states and the federal government can see it coming and know that we are serious, that we will no longer pay to have our children indoctrinated into the filth that the liberals want to teach.

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.11 @ 6:38PM

Dmac;

Can we not give to Caesar what is Caesar's and not lose ourselves? Methinks not. Do what my parents did - pay your taxes and send the kids to church school or homeschool. What are going to leave to this world besides them? Might as well do your best there...

DTOM

Al Adab| 9.23.11 @ 7:02PM

Dan,
I would truely love to render unto Ceasar that which is his. Our Constitution delineates quite clearly what the realm may do and what we Citizens may do. Our rights and our property are ours except for those purposes for which we established a government. That is the realm of Ceasar. All other belongs to us.

POST American| 9.24.11 @ 12:07AM

--------------------BOTTOM LINE----------------------

Let's get REAL local:

-Hurl your mind control TV's, and sequester
your surveillance and eavesdropping PCs

-Clear ALLLLLL Freemasons, infiltrators and
government informers from your churches.
LEAVE your church and start your own if
neccessary

-In every way, shape and form, DETACH
from franchise slum 'culture' ---even if it's
inconvenient

-REFUSE to comply with those Agenda 21
RED China made, flicker rate mind control,
mercury filled, flourescent bulbs

-Close with the generations, with your neighbors,
with ALLLL things local

"Come out from among them.
DO NOT partake of their sin."

Dwayne C.| 9.24.11 @ 5:32AM

Spoken like a true Tea Partier, POST American.

Keep your articulate, intelligent comments coming, POST.

You've got the Tea Party knowledge, and unlike the rest of them on here, you know how to express your thought-provoking ideas coherently!

Keep posting, man! Your posts are by far the best on this blog.

You're brilliant, POST, your comments always trump the blathering stream of bonzo boors who spend their entire days obsesssing over the musings of this rabid rag's reactionery contributors.

Elvin| 9.24.11 @ 10:59AM

Whenever I read the comments on AmSpec articles, I recall the Shakespeare line, "What fools these mortals be." (for wasting their time)

So I guess I am one more fool for posting this little putdown.

Fools! Now and forever more!

Dan Hirsch| 9.24.11 @ 12:33PM

Elvin,

Besides calling people names, do you have a point?

Why don't you share it with us?

Don't Tread On Me...

Margie| 9.24.11 @ 7:14PM

FLASH!!!
Drudge Reporting Herman Cain wins FL. straw poll!
Go Herman!

http://www.washingtontimes.com.....traw-poll/

fliteking| 9.24.11 @ 11:00PM

Didn't Morgan Freeman declare these folks racists?
We shouldn't have to think for ourselves, right? Morgan and Hollywood will do it for us I am told. The last thing we want is a bunch of people thinking for them selves and promoting family values, the Constitution and God, right?

http://www.theblaze.com/storie.....t-of-here/

Occam's Tool| 9.25.11 @ 10:13PM

By the way, most Alabamans are Conservatives, unlike Kenneth from Dothan.

I love 'Bama, but dislike its summers.

SAS4liberty| 9.26.11 @ 4:16PM

Agenda 21 is a serious concern to everyone who believes in property rights. In the very blue state of Maryland, to Governor is implementing PlanMaryland. Briefly, it is a state-wide sustainability scheme to control land use and dictate areas where people can live, the density of housing, etc. It also covers water, food, safety, education, social equity, transportation, forests, the bay, etc. The fundamental reason for implementing such a plan... global warming. It also takes local planning and zoning issues out of the hands of the counties and puts them under state control with a variety of commissions, councils, and other mechanisms.

Remember, the U.N. believes that govt must own and control land not individuals via private ownership. This is certainly one of the most serious threats to individual rights, liberty, and private property rights.

markenoff| 9.27.11 @ 12:04AM

Does anyone anywhere believe that the "experts" at the UN have a freaking clue about anything?