The American Spectator : Why Perry Can Beat Obama and Romney Can't

RJ| 8.30.11 @ 6:29AM

Rick Perry has military service, Romney-nor not one of his four sons, have ever made such a decision to serve their country. Character?

I'll go with Perry; however, my first choice still remains Gov. Palin.

Mike Hawk| 8.30.11 @ 6:35AM

Rick Perry was discharged from the Air Force with the rank of Captain after serving from 1972-1977. He flew C-130s as an Aircraft Commander. He is an Eagle Scout and so is his son. THose are two big pluses for the Gov.

Obama has distain for the military, dislikes Scouting and what it stands for and compares in no way on the political creds. Community Organizer vs Governor for three terms. Who would you pick??

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 8:06AM

Mike more proof Rick Perry is a man of the people. As a young man Rick Perry was serving his country while pictures of Barack Obama reveal a male gay prostitute addicted to fags/cigs.

Yves Bauer| 8.30.11 @ 11:06AM

@ Michael

Your disdain for President Obama is quite obvious. However have a grain of respect for the man, he is our President. What is equally clear from your wise words, is that you dislike homosexuals. It's idiots like you who weaken the image of the Republican Party by comments like this on the internet, or in public. It's a shame and I think you should delete it or the moderators should take care of it....

If someone had said that about President Bush when he was still in office, I am sure that if someone were to post the exact same words except replace Obama with Bush, you would have been up in arms!

He is your President, respect him.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:12AM

I respect the office. I do not necessarily respect the man sitting in it. That respect must be earned, and the America-hating hack currently occupying it has not done so.

Ray Burke| 9.1.11 @ 1:05PM

America hating hack. Love it !!! A very apt description.

VBMax| 8.30.11 @ 11:14AM

Are you kidding? Who can have respect for a criminal but another criminal?

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 11:57AM

Get lost.

I despise Obama - viscerally. I have ZERO respect for him as a man, and as President.

Does that bother you?

Tough. Deal.

Nathan Brittle| 8.30.11 @ 2:14PM

absolutely right! respect must be earned. he has NO respect for the office, the American people or our country.

lily | 8.30.11 @ 9:32PM

Lets not get too carried away with Perry, he has some serious chinks in his armor but Romney is a big fat phony F$%#.
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Ray Burke| 9.1.11 @ 1:07PM

Disgusting !!!

Noah Chance| 8.30.11 @ 12:50PM

Respect for this lier, Manchurian candidate of a president hell bent to destroy our beloved country? Never, never, never. He is the enemy from within well protected by the equally scornful libertine news media.

Buck Ofama| 8.30.11 @ 1:14PM

>He is your President, respect him.

Your nose is brown, and your knees must be very sore.

Redstateboy| 8.30.11 @ 3:41PM

Yves Bauer.. Dubbya may've had faults but I don't recall even the most wacked out Leftist saying Dubbya was trying to destroy our country on Purpose! Unlike Hussein... I know more and more otherwise sane and rational Americans who Believe Hussein IS on PURPOSE trying to destroy this country.. So don't tell Me Hussein deserve anything but My contempt.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 7:07PM

W. was awful and is the reason Obama is in the White House right now. His old man gave us Clinton. Will we never be free of the curse of the Bush's and their buddies? Perry is now running against military adventurism, just like Bush was for a humble foreign policy with no nation building. They re all trying to be bad immitations of Ron Paul. It won't work we have the original.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 8:01PM

And you can keep him, with our compliments.

Jack in Wi. | 8.30.11 @ 10:53PM

You can keep Bush and his younger brother Perry. They are both of pair of dolts. They look alike. They talk alike. The big question is who will be Perry's Cheney? Anyhow I like the fact that there is going to be a fight to the death in the Republican party. If we nominate someone like Perry or Romney, turn off the lights. This party is over.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:15PM

I like that fact too. This will be a fight for the party's soul. While Perry almost certainly has his flaws, at least he knows how to improve an economy at the state level. And he knows how to work and play well with others-like legislators. Look for him not to hinder the passage of conservative legislation, provided, of course, we can take control of the Senate with conservatives and keep (hopefully enlarge) the numbers of conservatives in the House.

beebop| 8.31.11 @ 5:47AM

Why don't you post that someplace where people like you drool in your hatred of the majority of Americans? You obviously are in the minority here.

Ray Burke| 9.1.11 @ 1:14PM

Wrong !!! Your party will soon be over. Our party begins in November of next year.

RiverKing| 9.1.11 @ 5:08PM

I really don't want to believe that 0 is intent on destroying this country. Can anyone provide solid evidence...not words from his TelePrompter...that this administration is not dedicated to destruction of the U.S. as a free country?

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 6:07PM

President Bush played 24 rounds of golf over eight years. That's an average of one game every four months and you liberals screamed bloody murder every time he hit the ball. More than a few of us still remember the left's treatment of Bush, so spare us the give Obama a chance, "he's your president too" tripe.

In less than two years in office, Obama has played 52 rounds of golf and all we hear from you and the evil vermin you represent is crickets.

I believe Obama is a dope smoking, racist, anti-American terrorist supporting Marxist who has "acted stupidly" during his entire time in office. Obama despises anything patriotic, denigrates anything he deems Christian, yet throws White House parties to encourage and support every muslim holiday you can name.

You feign outrage because someone says the word "fag" when it's Obama's muslims, not we Christians, who behead the homosexuals you claim to hold so dear. They are cutting peoples heads off you idiot, where is your outrage for that?...tic...tock...tick...and still we wait.

Obama and his reprehensible wife publicly embarrass and shame America time after time with their inappropriate gifts and social mistakes. They have no class and are bereft of any sense of protocol. They make one seemingly unintended cultural mistake after another, yet, once again the left gives him a pass.

Devoid of honor or respect for the office he holds, Obama is perpetually photographed with his feet on America's furniture. Obama fails to comprehend that it is the American people and not himself he dishonors when he bows before anyone.

I hope I have made my disdain for President Obama and all liberals "quite obvious." I have not one grain of respect for the man who is our President. America has not been "reset," it has been "overcharged" and I want my money back.

Papa Ray| 8.30.11 @ 10:12PM

Boar Hunter, your comment is priceless. I request permission to repost it in various places with credit to you.
Keep up the spirit, the election seems far away now but it really isn't and we must make sure everyone understands the importance of it.

No matter who is running against the shyster liberal idiot who is our wantabe fake president now, Obama must be kicked out of not only the presidency but our Republic. Then Congress is next!

Boar Hunter| 8.31.11 @ 1:54AM

Permission granted. lol.

Jack in Wi. | 8.30.11 @ 10:56PM

All I know is that Bush was a drunk and probably dabbled in drugs as well. I have been around boozers long enough to see a guy that likes a few drinks in Perry as well. Of course I never did hold a man's drinking against him, if he didn't kill anyone and could do the job.

beebop| 8.31.11 @ 5:51AM

Jack? You're a flack. If you "never did hold a man's drinking against him," then why bring it up? Is that the best you got? And I am so curious as to why Bush is still the standard by which we are to measure 0bama if the latter is the intellectual, cultural and political icon you worship? Can't the man stand on his own "merits?" Wait .... we know the answer to that one.

Ray Burke| 9.1.11 @ 1:24PM

Fabulous rant !!! I love every syllable of it and couldn't agree more. Thanks for putting my thoughts into words.

Delta Zelda| 8.30.11 @ 6:44PM

I havve no respect for a person who does not respect his country. Since he thinks America is so bad, why is he still here? Why doesn't go to Saudi, Iran, Dubai, etc.? Because America is the only country in which a parasite can live off someone else on the grand scale the Obamas do.

BackToBasics| 8.30.11 @ 6:54PM

When Obam himself shows respect for the office of the presidency and for America, its' constitution and it's people, I will show more respect for him.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 11:34PM

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah . . . Where were you went the Democrat were attacking Presidents Reagan and Bush (41 & 43). Have you seen the young Obama he looks like a gay male whore sucking on a cig/fag.

hank beckel| 8.31.11 @ 8:45PM

As a member of the board of directors(voters), I respect all of our employees(president, congress) who do their jobs well. Those who don't must be held to account. The president is not above us and deserves no special respect.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 7:12PM

Rick Perry looks like Bush sounds like Bush and say anything that will get him a vote. No thank you. The country needs real leadership. Dr. Ron Paul has been right for decades. Now Rick Perry claims to be against the Fed and military adventureism. He is nothing but a chamealon and charleton. Let the debates begin. It should be some real fun times.

beebop| 8.31.11 @ 5:53AM

You know, I lived in Texas for 25 years and to lump these two men together is like saying all African Americans look alike .... except that in your world the former is all you have to combat the 0bama shrinking poll numbers and the latter is what strikes you as "racist" and the final argument in nearly any discussion with a 0bama supporter. I don't even respond to the charge.

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 12:44PM

He's not an Obama supporter by a long shot. He's a Paulbot.

mames| 8.30.11 @ 9:44AM

Lets not get too carried away with Perry, he has some serious chinks in his armor but Romney is a big fat phony F$%#.

Paul from SA| 8.30.11 @ 12:47PM

Can anybody imagine Obama in a Boy Scout or U.S. military uniform? Obama spit on cub scouts.....

canuckistani| 8.30.11 @ 1:22PM

Choice? anybody but a texam....

idalily| 8.30.11 @ 5:19PM

Amazing how people view things. Those on the left are obsessed with the superficial stuff. I don't care what gender the President is, or what color. I don't care how he pronounces words, how good he is as a public speaker, what college he went to, or what state he's from. I care about his fiscal policy, his leadership ability, his common sense, and his ability to keep government out of my wallet and out of my business as much as possible. That is the difference between a person who uses emotion versus one who uses critical thinking. In other words, it's the difference between a liberal and a conservative.

Ray Burke| 9.1.11 @ 1:31PM

Nicely put.

Michael Handley| 8.31.11 @ 3:12PM

Your comment on Gov Perry piloting C130 cargo planes gives us an indicaton of his inteligence. The military doesn't just give the controls of a multi million dollar plane to someone who isn't smart enough to fly it...

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 7:39AM

Doctor Ron Paul Is The Only Candidate Who Can Win Independents And Beat Obummer.

The Sooner You RINO-CINO Asshats Realize This The Better.

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.

Rise Up Or Shut Up.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 7:47AM

A 76 year old man is not going to get elected President, doesn't matter what he believes in. So get over it.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 7:51AM

Aaand Get Over Youself Mikey D-For-Dumb RINO-CINO Asshat.

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.

Lock And Load.

Gary B| 8.30.11 @ 8:03AM

Hey, Clint. You're telling Mike D. to get over himself? In case you don't have one maybe I should send you a mirror. Perhaps you should go into the T-shirt business so you can make money on your Johnny One Note rants. Just trying to help...

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:22AM

That's Two Phoney Israel Firster Posts.

Dr.Reich & His Phoney Punk Posters Are Afraid Of The Tea Party.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:33AM

Hey Gary, That Post Wasn't My Post.

Dr.Reich & His Girlfriends Are Punk Posting,

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 10:39AM

Hey Gary, That WAS My Post And I Stand By It.

Now Dr.Reich & His Girlfriends Are Punk Posting.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:16AM

To whichever Clint is the real one,
Let's suppose Paul wins the nomination. The campaign will stress his ties to KKK/Nazi sympathizers and some of his nuttier pronouncements on foreign policy. It will also highlight his followers such as yourself who are both vile and aggressively obnoxious. This will not endear him to those independents you and the others claim he can win. Game, set, match to zero. Goodbye America.
So either clean up your act and start acting like a civilized human being or you can kiss any chance of Paul's getting the nomination goodbye.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:31PM

Are You The Toughie Girl,Who's Gonna Make Me,Mick ?

Hmmmm ?
Why Don't You. Do Something Relly Tough &Take; On Dr.Reich & His Israel Firster Girlfriends, Who Serial Badmouth Catholics,Or Is That Too Tough A Job For Ya, Mick ?

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 5:59PM

"Mick"?

So you hate Jews and the Irish, eh, Clint-wit??

What a 'tard.

Jack in Wi. | 8.30.11 @ 11:03PM

Did you watch him handle Chris Wallace on Sunday? He just took Anderson Cooper to the woodshed on CNN tonight. He outperforms and runs rings around all his opponents in debates. He goes on almost any show to discuss and defend his views. Give a me name of another modern politician who does so without a huge number of handlers. Ron Paul is the moral and intellectual giant dragging the whole country back to sanity.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:33PM

Not My Post.

A Doctor Reich Fake Post

Gary B| 8.30.11 @ 5:33PM

Oh... sorry.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:53PM

Gary, Dctor Reich has become unhinged about We Tea Party Patriots supporting Dr.Ron Paul.

Stand Up To Him.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:50PM

clint is a liberal poser making fun of you. ignore him.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:50PM

clint is a liberal poser making fun of you. ignore him.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:52PM

how many times do I have to say it? :))

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 9:13AM

Whatever I am or aren't doesn't change the facts. A fringe libertarian who is 76 years old isn't going to get elected President numbnuts. I don't have to deal with that, YOU do!

Solo| 8.30.11 @ 1:17PM

That's a fact, Mike D.

The RuPaul has no chance of getting the nomination, much less the Presidency. Nor...does he deserve either.

He's a fringe crank with a cadre of fringe cranks as his base.

Wait until the "Ron Paul Newsletter" he published for 20 years re-surfaces.

The PaulBots are every bit as bad as the other leftists. For them...history began yesterday.

Jack in Wi. | 8.30.11 @ 11:07PM

Ha Ha Ha. They have nothing left but name calling and lies. Well what do you expect from people who have destroyed our economy and our foreign policy?
Ron Paul has been right for decades. His time has come. It is Ron Paul or ruin.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:33PM

Ron Paul,
"I’ve offered to ride a bicycle for 20 miles in Houston when the temperature is 100° and the humidity is 100% and I will go 20 miles with them and then we’ll decide who’s the youngest."

Put Up Or Shut Up, Sport.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 6:30PM

And what does this prove? He can ride a bike BFD.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 7:01PM

Ron Paul may be 76 but he has a huge following among the young. The young are sick of all your lies, stupid and illegal wars and debts that they will have to pay off. By the way, Rick Perry is now running against Military adventurism. Ha ha ha. before the next debate they will all be calling for bringing the troops home now. Frankly I thought Romney would be the first to do so. Paul's supporters are the only new people coming into the party. They are young and they are the future, get used to it.

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 7:56PM

"The young" liked Hitler, too, in 1933...

...Aren't their a lot of Germans in Wisconsin..?

Jack in Wi. | 8.30.11 @ 11:15PM

We got a lot of Germans here. Most of them were liberals. I am half German myself and proud of it. A lot of Germans today in Wi. have moved to the right. The unions don't have the pull they used to have. Is that your latest nonsense Ron Paul is Hitler? Hitler was one of the greatest wamongers in history. Ron Paul wants our troops home with their families not killing people overseas and being killed themselves. You neocons go back to the great mass murderer Trotsky. He was your idol. You are the one who loves war and killing especially on backward 3rd world people.

Dick Nome| 8.30.11 @ 8:12AM

The bigots and kook fringe followers drive 'independents' and 'moderates' away from the old curmudgeon. Paulbots are nutty.

Jack in Wi. | 8.30.11 @ 11:19PM

Ron Paul beats Obama by a huge number among Independents. No other Republican comes close to him in those polls. He also does much better then the others among Democrats. Perrry will never get those votes. Romney maybe if he comes out against the wars. All you do is name call. That is all you have left.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:02AM

That's One Phoney Post, Dr.Reich's Poseur Poster Punks.

Tomp| 8.30.11 @ 8:31AM

Your on some interesting drugs Clint.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:35AM

Aaaand You're Being Punk Posted By Dr.Reich & His Israel Firster Girlfriend's .

They're Afraid Of The Tea Party.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:40AM

Aand Your An Asshat, Tomp.

That Was My Post And I Stand By It.

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.

Rise Up.

Redstateboy| 8.30.11 @ 9:21AM

Clint.... Listen to me.... You are a Freak'n Loon.
You need to seek professional help - quickly.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 9:37AM

Goofball doesn't help his cause does he? Rants and incoherent ravings aren't a real effective recruiting tool. Dude is good for some laughs though!

Dixie Pixie| 8.30.11 @ 1:33PM

You are right about Clint being good for a couple of laughs, Mike.

For example, just what is an A$$hat?
Two buns on hair, ...Gluteus Ridiculous Maximus, ...A lap-dancer without the dancer,just the impression ...A really bad fart joke of headgear, …Or just an indirect way of indicating a distaste in haberdashery.

The last would imply Clint considers himself a Psychic capable of “Distant Viewing”, which would be a wonderment to his many cats.

I still have not figured out why he is irritated by Occam's Tool.
Any funny suggestions?

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:53PM

Not My Post.

But You Already Knew That.

Your Girlfriend Doctor Reich Is Fake Posting,Using My Name.

You Must Think That American Spectator Readers Are Stupid & Won't Catch On.

Dixie Pixie| 8.30.11 @ 5:22PM

Clint...I really don't care which Clint thinks he is the real Clint.
I just wanted to know the definition of A$$hat.
The Clint who uses the term, should know the definition, unless he means”Asset” instead.

There is a character in the “Princess Bride” who used the word substitution trick to some comic effect.
He also considered himself a “Super Genius”.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 1:05PM

Aaand Your An Asshat, Too.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:35PM

Tell Your Crap To Doctor Reich,Who's Looney Toons Enough To Post Serial Fake posts,Using My Name.

He Thinks You're Suckers,Who Will Buy His Fake Posts.

Apparently, In Your Case, He's Right, Dumbass.

Solo| 8.30.11 @ 1:19PM

The true Tea Party steps on the PaulBot's face.

Wipe your feet!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:36PM

You Ain't Man Enough, Punk.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 6:01PM

NO, You Ain't Man Enough, Punk.

I AM Clint. Dr. Reich Is Fakin My Name And All You RINO-CINO Tool-Jobs Are Buying It.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:35PM

Aaand, You're Hidin' In Joisey, Doctor Reich.

You're Scared Of The Tea Party, Cupcake.

Not Man Enough To Post Under Your Own Name, Pussy ?

Hmmm ?

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:10PM

Aaaand That's Not My Post.

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 4:14PM

I am posting under my own name, Clint-wit.

Man, you're dumb.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:54PM

You're A Damned Coward Liar.

Quit Posting Under My Name, Punk.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 6:02PM

Quit Posting Under MY Name, Pussy-Boy Punk.

I Am Clint.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 10:08AM

Clint, I think I know why you support Ron Paul, you are an abused child and you know Ron Paul does not beat anyone.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 10:54AM

Nice job Boar hunter!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 1:05PM

Aaand Your An Asshat.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:37PM

I Think, You're An Israel FirsterRINO-CINO Stooge Flunkie, Because You Beat Your Meat, Chairman Of The Bores.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 6:03PM

Aaand Your An Asshat.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 10:53AM

Ron Paul 6%
Enough said.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 1:05PM

Aaand Your An Asshat.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:38PM

That's Not My Post.

That The Joisey Hider, Doctor Reich.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:11PM

No, That's Not My Post.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:25PM

Quit Posting Under My Name, Gutless Joisey Coward, Doctor reich.

We See That You're Still Hiding In Joisey, Punk.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 6:03PM

That's Not My Post, Either.

Joisey Boy Punk Doctor Reich Better Cut The Crap.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 1:54PM

Will EVERYONE here please stop responding to this moronic copy/paster if/until he demonstrates the intelligence to pur forth logical arguments? Make him prove his demented arguments instead of constantly insulting everyone here!!!!!!!!!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:41PM

You're Responding To Josey Social Propaganda Boy Doctor Rech's Fake Posts,Under My Name.

That Makes you The Freakin' Moron, Ols Smell.

Wake Up Old Man.

You're Bein' Punked By Doctor Reich.

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 4:13PM

Hey, Clint-wit!

Everyone thinks you're...(drum-roll, please)...

...An Asshat!!!

LOL!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:57PM

Still Hiding In Joisey, Gutless Punk ?

Quit Posting Under My Name , Coward Punk.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 6:04PM

Quit Posting Under MY Name , Coward Joisey Punk.

Mary Mayes | 8.30.11 @ 3:48PM

Hey Clint -- you're dreaming!! Paul's blame America first blather offends me, I don't care how good he is on the other issues. And he's fine with Ahmagivinablojob having nukes! Kook! Rand Paul maybe, not Ron. Also, he did not start the Tea Party! He's also TOO OLD.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:44PM

Asked & Answered.

"Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World â€“ because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”

Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."

The Israel Firsters Are Afraid Of The Tea Party.

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 6:07PM

Clint-Wit:

You have the same 2-3 pathetic answers for EVERY question!

Your act is REALLY getting stale. Between your schizophrenic, faux-violent posts, your slavish man-love of Ron Paul, and your dim-witted repeat answers, you're a barrel of fun!

KEEP BRINGIN' IT, CLINT-WIT!!!

Michael Handley| 8.31.11 @ 3:25PM

Hey Clint. I like the Tea Party and I attend their rallys. I don't hear that much support for Paul and I have never heard the kind of language you are spouting at any of their events either. You might want to tone it down a bit??

Milpundit | 8.30.11 @ 9:54AM

I second RJ's comment. Perry also shows the good sense to get out of the way of American creativity. That's why Texas leads the nation in job creation. It also helps that constitutionally the Texas governor has limited powers.

RCV| 8.30.11 @ 11:19AM

Governor Perry has created two government jobs in Texas for every one new private sector job. I guess that's one way to grow an economy.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 12:57PM

Federal jobs increased under Obama by 25,000. Overall jobs is -2.4 million.

I think Perry has him beat on that score.

Nick| 8.30.11 @ 6:48PM

RCV,

Those are just democrat talking-points.
Or, do you have a source for that statistic?

RCV| 8.30.11 @ 10:32PM

Nick - I had read the statement in a Washington Post article. But in attempting to verify the claim, I came across a detailed study published in the San Antonio News a few days ago. That study shows that during Perry's tenure as Governor, private sector job growth increased by 10% while government sector job growth was up 18%. But the actual growth in pure numbers of private sector jobs was much higher, so the Post claim was wrong. It was the percentage of government job growth that was almost twice as high.

Nick| 8.30.11 @ 11:54PM

RCV,

Just as I figured.

Did this study claim that Governor Perry was the one responsible for the growth in all of those government jobs? Or, just some of them? Or, any of them?

Because, as I'm sure you are aware, one of the other democrat talking points is that the Governor of Texas has no real power to do anything.

So, which is it?

Is Governor Perry responsible for the increase of government jobs, and, therefore, also responsible for the increase in private sector jobs? Or, is he almost powerless, and, therefore, not to blame for the increase in government jobs?

Also, don't you think that it is wrong for the democrats and the Washington Post to perpetrate such a fraud on the American people?

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 12:47PM

I do - I always think it's wrong to mislead. The point of the San Antonio article was quite different: it was that Governor Perry, like President Reagan (for whom I voted), spoke of reducing the size of government, but did not. That's an accurate observation.

Nick| 8.31.11 @ 6:10PM

RCV,

The issue is more complicated than that.

I don't think it is a simple matter of hypocrisy or false claims of reducing the size of government.

By your own admission, private sector job growth "was much higher" than public sector job growth, in real numbers. We also know that Texas had the biggest increase in population during the past decade. Would these facts not necessitate an increase in government employment?

And, you never answered my question. Did the study, cited in the San Antonio News, break down the growth in public sector jobs between municipalities, county, and state? They couldn't have all been state jobs, or were they?

And, if the study dealt with only increases in state jobs, how does this square with the democrat talking point that the Governor of Texas has no real power to do anything in the state?

This is the danger of following talking points.

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 10:09PM

Of course an increase in population necessitates increased government staffing and expenditures -- on the federal as well as state and local levels. In our complex society, government performs and must perform an increasing array of tasks to help insure safety, provide for community infrastructure, regulate a host of interactions among people, businesses, criminal elements and foreign agencies. It costs money, in Texas, in California, in Washington. Those who pretend otherwise in their public pronouncements face the realities when they actually govern, whether they're Ronald Reagan or Rick Perry.

RCV| 9.1.11 @ 11:26AM

BTW Nick, I have said before and still believe that the strongest ticket the GOP could field is Peryy/Rubio.

Nick| 9.1.11 @ 6:23PM

RCV,

You may be right. I would vote for that ticket, even with my reservations about Governor Perry.

My main point was about talking points, and, specifically, how the liberal democrat t.p.'s against Mr. Perry contradict each other.

beebop| 8.31.11 @ 5:58AM

RCV ....

It strikes me as the height of hilarious hyprocisy for a democrat to manufacture outrage about Republican governors vis-a-vis government jobs. Democrats actually believe that government jobs PRODUCE something ....

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 12:50PM

The point isn't outrage at creating government jobs. It's about the hypocrisy of claiming to reduce government while actually enlarging it. Unlike many in the Tea Party, the critics believe that government is necessary and can be beneficial.

Mary Mayes | 8.31.11 @ 4:31PM

Better than your guy has done

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 1:06PM

Asshat.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:43PM

Not My Post.

You're Bein' "Punked" By Doctor Reich.

He Uses You.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:15PM

Not My Post.

Your All Asshats.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 10:06AM

Perry was a D+ stuent in an agriculture college. He is just another warmonger with a Texas twang. His attacks on the Fed are laughable. I bet he can't put together 2 lucid sentences on the what the real problems of this countries economy problems are. There is no way a warmonger is going to get many Independent votes. Now if he promised to bring all the troops home now. He might have a chance. I hear however he has turned his foreign policy over to the usual Neocon cabral which has sunk the Republican party.

Dick Nome| 8.30.11 @ 10:39AM

You are an anti-Semite.

Kishego| 8.30.11 @ 11:50AM

Hey Jack, is that the same cabal that your butt boy Obumbler is listening to. I thought we were going to be out of Iraq and Afghanistan by now, after all, he promised right? I just read that August was the deadliest month ever for US Troops in Afghanistan. What do we here from the MSM...Crickets. They were reading the names of all the soldiers on the nightly news every other month when Bush was in. I guess it's O.K. if a DemocRAT goes over and bombs innocent civilians with no declaration of war or congressional approval.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 1:06PM

Aaaand Your An Asshat.

Buck Ofama| 8.30.11 @ 1:18PM

What is an "asshat", other than a vague insult one associates with juveniles?

Flame suit on.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:46PM

Not My Post.

That's Doctor Reich.

He Keeps "Punking " You & You Sucker For It.

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 4:21PM

Clint-wit:

You're rude and obnoxious today, and you were rude and obnoxious yesterday.

You NEVER change. Please don't!!!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:27PM

Quit Posting Under my Name, Punk.

You're Still A Gutless Coward , Doctor Reich.

You're Still Hiding In Joisey.

John Navratil| 8.30.11 @ 5:05PM

Buck Ofama,

I had to look it up as well. It seems a certain class of loonies is busy adding burlesque metaphors to the lexicon. It's a person so confused as to be wearing his ass for a hat.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 1:55PM

It's ''''you're'''' or '''''you are'''''. MORON!!!!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:48PM

Not My Post.

Doctor Reich's Fake Posts Are Making You Look Like A Moron.

Wake Up Old Man.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:16PM

My Fake-Fake Posts Are Making You Look Like A Moron.

Wake Up Old Man.

Aaaand Your An Asshat.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:28PM

Quit Posting Under My Name Doctor Reich.

You're Afraid Of The Tea Party.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 4:13PM

Just another name caller. Get lost. Nobody cares anymore. I am for this country and it's people not for some lttle warped group on the other side of the world. Stay out our pockets and out of our lives and mind your own business. If you want to join the IDF and give all your money to Israel be my guest.

Nick| 8.30.11 @ 6:53PM

"I am for this country and it's people [...]."

Except for when Jack-boot is defending Hitler and Arab terrorists who stab policemen, launch rockets that kill civilians, and behead children, that is.

Jack in Wi. | 8.30.11 @ 11:29PM

You are defending Israeli Terrorists who kill ten times more then they receive. You know that I condemn all violence and want only peace in the Middle East. That can only happen when the Palistinians have equal rights in a one state democracy. There should also be massive reparations to the Palistinians for all the theft, murder and torture of the last 63 years. Integrate Israel now. If it is good enough for Missisipi and South Africa it is good enough for Israel. End the terror end the hate integrate the Israeli state. Equal rights for all in one, united Israel Palistine.

Nick| 8.31.11 @ 12:08AM

I defend Israel's right to defend herself, der schweinehund-fuhrer.

The Moslem Arabs should thank allah that they live in Israel, and, not one of the other Moslem hell-holes. The Christian Arabs thank God that they live in Israel.

Also, it's spelled Palestine, you illiterate moron.

How'd you get back from Tel-Aviv so quickly, Jack-boot?

Jack in Wi.| 8.31.11 @ 1:08AM

You are a fool. When the Muslims ran Palistine the Christians were 30% of the population. Now they are 3% in Israel. I know some Christian Palistinians . I never heard them say a good word about Israel. The places where Christians always did best in the Middle East were Egypt, Palistine, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. Israel has interferred in all of them and helped get rid of the secular rulers who were treating the Christian populations best. The radicals have taken over in Iraq and Egypt, and are trying to do the same in Syria. Gaddaffi had freeedom of religion in Libya. They are already letting the radicals take over. The creation of Israel has been an unmitigated disaster for Middle East Christians. The radicals blame them for our pushing Israel down their throats. The only solution that holds any hope for the Christians and Jews in the Middle East is a true integrated state in Israel Paslisitne with true freedom of religion for all sects. Let the Jews of Israel be a light onto the world Instead of a black night.

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 12:54PM

Jack - I know many Palestinian and Lebanese Christians (along with Syrian and Iraqi Christians). While many of them are not supporters of Israel, every one of them left their native countries because of the radicalization of their Muslim neighbors and the belief that they no longer felt safe as non-Muslims in their Arab communities. I know of no Christian in Israel who feels in any way threatened because of their religion.

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 12:58PM

There is no country in the Middle East where Muslims are a majority where there is "true freedom of religion for all sects." Under Sharia law, that is an impossibility, because the overt display of any symbols of any faith but Islam is prohibited. The conversion of any person from Islam to another religion is an act punishable by death. Christians in Saudi Arabia must meet in secret to hold services; Jews are not allowed in the country.

There is one country, and one country only in the Middle East that allows people of all faiths to openly worship as they choose. that country is Israel.

irish19| 8.31.11 @ 2:47PM

Thank you, RCV, for posting the truth.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 10:55AM

And in a recent poll Guiliani beats Ron Paul and he isn't even running.

If his poll #'s stay were they are at I think I will start calling you and Clint 6 percenters

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 1:06PM

Asshat.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 2:02PM

6%

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:56PM

Ron Paul Polling In Third Place

AUGUST 29th,2011:

Much of the media and pundit-class have already pronounced the Republican primary a troika: Rick Perry, Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann. That assumption may merit revision. According to a new Gallup survey, Texas libertarian Rep. Ron Paul has risen to third place among GOP primary voters, pushing aside Bachmann. Perry has taken the lead since his recent campaign announcement at 29%, dislodging heretofore front runner Mitt Romney to second place at 17%, followed by Paul at 13%. Bachmann scored 10% and the rest of the field registered in single digits. "

These RINO-CINO Apolgist Stooges Are Afraid Of The Tea Party.

We'll See Ya In Iowa & New Hampshire.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:57PM

That Post Is Mine.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:17PM

That's Not My Post.

Asspants.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 3:30PM

Asshat

irish19| 8.31.11 @ 2:48PM

Quinnipiac has him in fourth today, behind Palin-who isn't even officially in the race. Check RealClearPolitics.com.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 6:21PM

The 6% of the electorate who support Ron Paul are 94% nuts.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:44PM

Not My Post.
You're Bein' Useful Dupes For Doctor Reich, Posting Under My Name.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:49PM

Not My Post.

You're Responding To Doctor Reich's Fake Posts.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:19PM

All My Posts.

You're Responding To My Fake-Fake Posts Strategy.

Asshat Clown RINO-CINO Israel Firster Jerk-Offs.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:58PM

Quit Posting Under My Name, Doctor Reich.

Still Hiding In Joisey ?

Bum| 8.30.11 @ 9:45PM

To Clint. And Clint.

Will both of you please shut up. There is an interesting conversation going on here, and I don't see that your juvenile antics are adding anything to it. So please shut it, Clint.

And that goes for you, too, Clint.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 4:18PM

The Gallup Poll of last week has Ron Paul in third place, right behind Romney. Both Gallup and Rasmussen have Ron Paul tied with Obama along with Perry and Romney. The poll you quote is put out by the Wolf Blitzer network. It was cooked by Wolf and his friends. Wolf is an Israeli citizen and long time front man for AIPAC.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 4:54PM

Conspiracies everywhere huh Jack?

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:59PM

Gutless Fake Punk Poster Drunk Boy.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:57PM

Jack is a poser. I am a conservative and everything he says is foreign to me.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 11:29PM

and then there is clint and clint. Geez!

Redstateboy| 8.30.11 @ 11:05AM

Jack... Stay in Wisconsin.... Get a Job and get out of your Mom's basement.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:19AM

Here's a hint for you on Perry's intelligence. It was pointed out in another post, and also applied to Bush. The Air Force does not let dummies pilot multi-million dollar aircraft. Perry flew C-130s. Ergo, he is not a dummy.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 1:06PM

Asshat.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:51PM

Not My Post.

That's Doctor Reich.

He Thinks That He Can Dupe You,Over & Over Again.

Stand Up To Him.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:19PM

Asshat.

That Other One Is Not My Post.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:29PM

Quit Posting Under My Name, Doctor reich.

You're Scared Of The Tea Party.

chuck| 8.30.11 @ 8:58PM

Perry flew transport planes full of special forces troops. There is no way in hell the military is going to allow an idiot to fly highly trained special ops personnel around. So stop calling Perry an idiot, you idiot!

kate| 8.30.11 @ 9:52PM

Jack
I can smell a troll. Is that you?

beebop| 8.31.11 @ 6:00AM

At least we KNOW what Perry's grades are. As to the big zero? Afraid to reveal any grades, health records, never wrote for the law review .... come on. How can you be so selectively incurious? They've had four years to manufacture a collegiate record for the big nothing. When can we expect to see how "brilliant" he was/is?

Michael Handley| 8.31.11 @ 3:42PM

It would help if Obama would release his college records... But why bother. We couldn't trust those documents either.....

Sean| 8.30.11 @ 12:28PM

http://www.chron.com/news/hous.....914428.php

Perry wrote a letter to Hillary praising her Health Care plan. The guy is a joke.

Always Question| 8.30.11 @ 2:12PM

Pretty innocuous in my opinion. Apparently, he commended her for attempting to reform health care. I'd need more than this to take the man to task.

idalily| 8.30.11 @ 5:29PM

I'd like to see the actual letter before I pass judgment.

Sean| 8.30.11 @ 6:03PM

http://dailycaller.com/2011/08.....re-praise/

kate| 8.30.11 @ 4:11PM

Perry/Rubio.
I know Rubio is young, but what do we have to lose after this last presidency?
10 years older does not a man make.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 4:14PM

Clint and the other trolls are going to start visiting respectable sights a lot from now until the election. I hope this sight keeps it under control.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 4:27PM

Perry and Rubio will be the death knell of the Republican party. They are both open border, war forever losers. It is better to lose then put those 2 anywhere near power. At least if Obama wins we won't have a judas goat leading us over the cliff. We will know the enemy and can keep on fighting. The Bush's and Nixon did more damage to the country then the Democrats. They all are part of the same gang. All the elites of both parties have done is trade back and forth as they have looted the country and detroyed it's moral base. The only way to have a chance to change all this is to join the Ron Paul Revolution.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:08PM

Well Jack...
You gave yourself away with the words...
"At least if Obama wins...."
You are a troll and a tea party poser.
LET'S FINISH THE SENTENCE FOR HIM!
I'LL START.
Jack says: "At least if Obama wins....."

we can look forward to no jobs but hearing about more vacations, parties and bad golf strokes.

we can look forward to Iran threatening us with nukes.
we can deal with high inflation.
we can look forward to more gangs beating innocent people.
we can share the wealth with ingrates.
we can give Nancy pelosi our 401k so she can jet back and forth to California.
we can look forward to congress passing thousands of pages of bills on Christmas Eve without even reading them.
we can look forward to cheating and intimidation at the polls.
we can look forward to skyrocketing energy prices in the name of the god gore and climate change.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:19PM

The Iranians won't fool around with Perry.

Jack in Wi. | 8.30.11 @ 11:37PM

Kate: Look if i got a choice of Obama or Perry or Romney. I am voting for neither. I voted for Mc Cain, only because of Palin. never again. I voted Republican for President in 11 straight elections. Most of those votes were wasted. There are a lot more people out there like me. We are as mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. If Perry or Romney wins the best we can do is slide downhill a little slower. I think it would be just as fast or faster because the conservtive opposition would disappear, just like it did with Bush.

kate| 8.31.11 @ 12:42AM

Listen
I like Palin too. But the media did her in almost immediately. What we need to do is get people in and make them accountable.
Palin can never win.
She was just too much for the liberals.
We are going to have to stick together to make this work. We need to get people in and then hold them accountable. Phone calls, emails, protests, whatever.
We can't give up.
I am a libertarian too.
Let's at least give Perry a chance. I want to look into him a little more.
As I am a women's rights advocate, I am also a conservative and I am sad to see men cringe at being themselves.
There is nothing wrong with being strong. Man or woman.
Give Perry a break and let's see what he has to say.
BTW- Rubio is so "American" and he is the child of immigrants..
Aren't most of us?
Sorry for calling you a troll.

Jack in Wi.| 8.31.11 @ 1:14AM

I can't give Perry a break. he is just another front man for the banksters and military industrial complex. Go listen to Ron Paul. He has more intelligence and commonsense in the tip of his little finger then Perry has in his whole body. There are plenty more like me out here . We are sick of being sold down the river by the big shots in the party. Let them pound sand. It is Ron Paul or ruin period.

Nick| 9.1.11 @ 6:27PM

Kate,

When Jack-boot writes "banksters [sic]" he really means the Jooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

beebop| 8.31.11 @ 6:04AM

As if you care a rat's ass for the Republican party. Perry and Rubio scare you guys so much that I can smell you all the way here in Ohio -- which the resident now thinks is unnecessary for his "victory." And? I must just say this: THANK GOD because he was in Ohio so much they should have been charging him real estate taxes ....

Gary B| 8.30.11 @ 5:35PM

John Kennedy was young, too.

Redstateboy| 8.30.11 @ 4:16PM

Perry/Bachmann.. I'd even go gladly Bachmann/Perry or Perry/Cain... and I wouldn't have a problem with a Perry/Romney..
I don't care! A N Y O N E of these combinations and it's... Ba-bye Hussein and there ain't Noth'n no Lame-stream media, no legions of welfarites, or Union Thugs can do about it.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 4:30PM

The old slogan that we are better then Obama won't be good enough this time. The country is in too bad a shape for that. Perry is a dimwit and Romney never had a clue while he was governor of Mass. what a consevaative idea was. They are both the candidates of the countryclub and the neocons. Those are the people who have destroyed the country already.

Alan Brooks| 8.30.11 @ 5:36PM

Perry = Bush 3.0

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 6:33PM

And Obysmal is Stalin 2.0.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 8:10PM

More like Mussolini 2.0. I mean he even has the look-down-the-nose at the proles pose ol' Bennie used down pat.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 8:27PM

LOL!

emo| 8.30.11 @ 8:36PM

Military service hasnt mattered since the 1988 election. In every election since 1992, the candidate with greater military service has LOST.

24AheadDotCom | 8.30.11 @ 11:02PM

I opposed Obama starting in 2007, when I went to one of his appearances trying to ask him something he'd have trouble with. Nowadays, I hope he gets re-elected because the teapartified GOP isn't fit to govern an Alaskan popsicle stand.

So, nominating Perry would be a great idea: most Americans aren't Teapartier-style crazy.

P.S. Teapartiers lie, and smear, and have no integrity. So, come on by my site and a basic search (like putting "Obama" in the search box) will show that I was opposing him while the teapartiers were still gazing longingly at pictures of GWB clearing brush. Don't believe what teapartiers say: they aren't capable of telling the truth.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:22PM

Then I would have to say you don't know many real Tea Partiers. Please don't take some of the people on this site as indicative of what the Tea Party is all about.

kate| 8.31.11 @ 1:09AM

I just spit my coffee all over the computer.
thank code pink for my chuckle of the day.
poor little trainee.

wodiej| 8.31.11 @ 7:47AM

I'm a Tea Party supporter and I never liked nor supported George Bush. There will be negative people in any group and your insulting comment is certainly not indicative of most TP people. Shame on you for spreading lies.

wodiej| 8.31.11 @ 7:45AM

I stand with Governor Sarah Palin.

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 1:09PM

Ex-part-time-Governor Palin.

Where's the truth| 8.30.11 @ 6:54AM

They say a lie travels the world while truth boards the train. By the time that the truth comes out about Rick Perry it may be too late. Rick Perry seems to be on both sides of many issues.

Rick Perry wrote a book entitled "Fed Up" It is loaded with lots of right wing fringe ideas -the title might as well have been "How to Beat Me-Rick Perry in 2012." If Rick Perry wins the GOP nomination, he will be painted as a Tea Party Crazy.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 7:07AM

While not a member of the Tea Party I think it is evident they're patriots who've stood up to the corruption, bullying and incomptence of the worst President in US history Barack "The Inane" Obama.

Rick Perry will have an easy time beating the failure that is Barack Obama. He need only remind people, “Unless the economy turns around in the next 18 months, Obama is on track to have the worst jobs record of any president in the modern era. That would be an accurate statement.” Glenn Kessler, fact checker for the Washington Post.

Fewer Americans are working full-time today than when Mr. Obama took office, more than 900,000 full-time jobs were lost in the last four months alone, and long-term unemployment is at a post-World War II high.

Whereas uder his stewardship Texas has created more jobs than the rest of the US. During Obama’s first year in office, more than half (119,000) of all the new jobs in the United States were created in Rick Perry’s business-friendly Texas, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Between January 2001 and June 2010, the BLS calculates, Texas’ non-farm employment grew from 9,542,400 in January 2001, when Perry took office, to 10,395,800 in June 2010 — an increase of 853,400 or 8.9 percent. Big-government California simultaneously lost 827,800 jobs. As a right-to-work state that taxes neither personal income nor capital gains over the same decade Texas added more jobs than the other 49 states combined. And since the recovery began, Texas has created 37 percent of America’s net new jobs. Again employment in Texas grew more than in the other 49 states combined. Since June 2009, when the recession officially ended, Texas has produced 265,300 net jobs, equal to 36.7 percent of the 722,200 positions created nationwide. Texas isn't just the fastest growing... it's growing over twice as fast as the second fastest state and three times as fast as the third. Given that Texas is huge, this growth is incredible.

As America’s No. 1 exporting state, Perry’s Texas shipped $206.6 billion in goods abroad last year, composing 16 percent of America’s $1.28 trillion in exports. California’s $14.4 billion in exports ranked it second, with 11.2 percent of U.S. outflow.

Texas with Republican governors (1996-2009 or Bush and Perry) who refused to raise taxes and restrained spending saw per capita income jump by more than 42%. Since the recession started hourly wages in Texas have increased at a 6th fastest pace in the nation. Employment was up 10.5% in Texas.

The whiny Obama and Democrats are saying that “Obama created the jobs in Texas.” That is absurd and laughable. If Obama did it for Texas why did he fail in the rest of the nation and why is he so unpopular in Texas? Critics of Perry malign the record of job creation as a way to attack the candidate, but it is important to realize nonpartisan analyses were on to what was happening in Texas long before Perry considered running for president. In 2009, one nonpartisan poll of business executives ranked Texas as "the No. 1 state to do business" for the fourth year in a row. And, the Economist magazine highlighted Texas in 2009 as "Lone Star Rising" with a subtitle to its special report: "Thanks to low taxes and light regulation, Texas is booming." This was in addition to several favorable data points comparing Texas to California in a separate piece in the magazine.

Confused| 8.30.11 @ 7:35AM

Perry accepted the stimulus money from Obama and then complained that he gave it him. How does Perry tell Obama that he has spent our taxpayer dollars recklessly when Perry himself has been part of the problem and not the solution?

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 8:03AM

I guess he could ask Ron Paul he has a gift with convincing people of the rightness of taking Federal money.

But the real difference is Obama wasted your money and destroyed more than 2.5 million jobs while Rick Perry in Texas created over a million jobs during roughly the same period. Seems Rick wins again.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:35PM

Hey
If Texans are paying for the damn stimulus, it is the responsibility of the state government to take it's share.
What it I don't like is the wimps who don't speak out.
The wimps who vote for things they don't read.

The wimps who are afraid of not being invited to the next Washington soiree because they opened their mouths.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 10:22AM

A tree stump should be able to beat Obama right now. I have the opinion that the Democrats might dump him for someone more electable. Perry and Romney are just 2 more of the countryclub elites, that have sunk the country. They would be just another pair of disciples of bailouts for their buddies, and endless war for the military industrial complex. That is all the Republicans have run since 1988. The country and the Party can't stand more of the same. The country doesn't need to elect someone who's main platform is I am not Obama.

Michael Handley| 8.31.11 @ 3:52PM

Clint. It's more about who controls Congress than who controls the White House. I believe the Tea Party will gain members and that is where the big changes will count...

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 1:07PM

Little Mickey Tomlinson, Total Asshat.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 1:57PM

Put forth an intelligent argument, CLITORIS!!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 2:59PM

That's The Third Time You've Been Duped By One Of Doctor Reich's Fake Posts ,Using Mt Name.

Doctor reich Thinks That You're Too Stupid To See What He's Up To, Old Man.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:26PM

MT
You are only denying being a tea party member because of the smear campaign waged against normal, nice Americans by the MSM.
Shame on you.
Have you ever been to one of the early grass roots protests?
Do you know of what you speak? :)
What a bunch of BS.

Chalkdust| 8.30.11 @ 7:47AM

"right wing fringe ideas"..."A Tea Party crazy" Hey Barry glad to have you aboard. Stepped out of the White House to fly with the crazies huh? By the way...I don't think taking advice from a left wing, kool-aid drinking wannabee (dues paying) is good business (remember business).

Tracey| 8.30.11 @ 12:46PM

Let me refresh your memory about another "Barry" with a little history lesson. "Goldwater's right-wing campaign platform ultimately failed to gain the support of the electorate[3] and he lost the 1964 presidential election to incumbent Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson by one of the largest landslides in history, bringing down many Republican candidates as well. The Johnson campaign and other critics painted him as a reactionary.

idalily| 8.30.11 @ 5:35PM

Thanks to the ability of the 60's generation to let an ad with a little girl and a daisy decide how they would vote. And they got the opposite of what they thought. Instead of a short end to Vietnam, we got a long defensive wasteful struggle. Thanks libs for going on emotion AGAIN and electing LNJ the real warmonger. By the way, in Johnson's War on Poverty, poverty won. Please tell Obama and his minions: wealth redistribution does not work.

Pull your head out of the sand| 8.30.11 @ 6:20PM

LOL You think you are talking to an Obama supporter.

Gary B| 8.30.11 @ 8:07AM

Maybe that's not so bad. Remember, it's the Tea Party House members that haunt Boehner. Insulting candidates by calling them Tea Party members doesn't really work because it's also an insult to a huge group of voters.

Kelly Staples| 8.30.11 @ 6:58AM

The Bushies don't like Perry, huh? He must be doing something right.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 7:04AM

That says something right there!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 7:06AM

The Texas Tea Party & The New Hampshire Tea Party are after Perry for:
Rick Perry & TARP, The Trans Texas Corridor, Toll Roads, Business Margin Tax, HPV Vaccine Mandate....

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 7:47AM

Hey, Clint-wit! (Yes, that's a new term created just for you).

Here's a NEW poll for you and your Paulista-drone buddies:

http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....gop-field/

Leading the GOP race is Rick Perry: 29%

And where's Doctor Ronnie?

He's behind Romney, Palin, Bachman, and...Giuliani!!!

BWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!

Ronnie the RINO Liber-tard has a whopping 6%!!!

Behind Giuliani!!!!

TOO FUNNY!!!

Now let's see your smart-a** reply, you phony Tea Partier!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:06AM

Dr.Reich's Scared of The Tea Party.

"Rasmussen Has Ron Paul Running Closest With Obama
Erik Hayden Aug 24, 2011 3,306 Views Comments (19)

Who does the president fare worst against in a head-to-head matchup? On Wednesday, Rasmussen released its latest nationwide early campaign survey. And right now, Barack Obama does well against Mitt Romney (46 to 38 percent) and narrowly leads Perry (43 to 40 percent) and Michele Bachmann (43 to 39 percent).

Which means, if you combine these results with the Rasmussen poll released Tuesday, the GOP candidate doing the best against the president is....Ron Paul? Yesterday's head-to-head poll showed the libertarian trailing the president 39 to 38 percent, by presumably the same methodology."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Rise Up.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 9:15AM

Unfortunately, your man can't make it through the primary in first place, so that makes things kind of academic in regards to Obysmal in the general don't it!

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 10:13AM

You are not in the Tea Party Clint.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:05PM

You're Not Only A Bore, You're A Liar.

Come To A Valley Forge Patriots, Tea Party Meeting & Say It To My Face, You Little Punk Ass.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 3:29PM

And Communists are in our government, too. They call themselves Democrats.

You're a TEA partier in name only.

Gee, that'd make you a TPINO.
LOL.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:42PM

Israel Firster RINO-CINO Margie's Afraid Of The Tea Party.

Tell Us About Your ManCrush, John McCain , Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Kennedy, Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush 2001 7 2003 Tax Cuts, TARP.

What Did Your Boy Call Us ?

Hobbits ?

Hmmm RINO-CINO Margie ?

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 4:38PM

Ha ha ha. If I were afraid of the TEA party, I'd be afraid of you, snake.
And I've never been that. As always, I suggest you crawl back into that hole you always come out of.
It IS interesting to note of Satan's spirit and those who are run by it though~ they project habitually.

You paint everyone as RINOS when, "dear" snake: YOU and your ilk are the RINO-CINOS as you like to say.

You're a joke.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:03PM

You're An Israel Firster Fanatic Nut Bag, Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.

Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor- Margie's Afraid Of The Tea Party, Because Then She Can't Use Israel & Jews & Muslims To Carry Out Her Apocalyptic Script.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 5:55PM

There you go projecting again.

Agenda you say?

LOL. Didn't you post recently, stating that you & your pals are trying to take over the GOP?
(That would be the anti-war, Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Justin Raimondo whackos for those who don't know).

Heh, or maybe it was one of your alter-egos that did it?

Mirror, mirror on zee wall..

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 8:01PM

Yes.

And when you go to the Valley Forge Tea Party Patriots meeting, look for some fool who calls himself "Clint Air".

That fool would be Clint-wit.

He's not even involved with VFTPP. He uses their website to pimp his own pathetic blog.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 8:04PM

Do I look for the guy wearing a dress?

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 8:16PM

That would be the Valley Forge Patriots girls softball team. He says he doesn't belong to that.
However, I don't think looking for Clint Air would work. Remember, before there was Clint, there was Tim (or was it Tim*?)
I'm still toying with the idea of doing a cut and paste of some of his deathless prose and sending it to all the officers of the Valley Forge Patriots (Tea Party, not girls softball team) just so they know what a literary genius they have in their midst.
And, Clint, before you tell me to "bring it", let me say I'd love to, but don't have the financial wherewithal to make the trip. How's about you come out here (Bartlett, Ill.) and make me not do it.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 11:07AM

Guess you missed this part of the poll Clint-wit (thanks DR.)

The president and Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul are running almost dead even, but given that matchup, 22% either prefer another candidate or remain undecided.

In other words Ron Paul is only even with Obama IF it was just a race between them. That means only IF Ron Paul wins the primary. Considering he is polled even behind people who are not running that seems very unlikely.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:22AM

It does, however, admirably illustrate Jack's point above; to with, that even a tree stump should be able to beat zero in 2012.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:08PM

Ron Paul Polling In Third Place
AUGUST 29th,2011:
Much of the media and pundit-class have already pronounced the Republican primary a troika: Rick Perry, Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann. That assumption may merit revision. According to a new Gallup survey, Texas libertarian Rep. Ron Paul has risen to third place among GOP primary voters, pushing aside Bachmann. Perry has taken the lead since his recent campaign announcement at 29%, dislodging heretofore front runner Mitt Romney to second place at 17%, followed by Paul at 13%. Bachmann scored 10% and the rest of the field registered in single digits. "

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 3:32PM

That still makes Perry with over twice the support of Ron Paul. Mark your calendar because that will probably be Ron Paul's highest point.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 3:33PM

Paul aint doing so hot.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/149.....Field.aspx

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 3:35PM

Dang Perry is getting Tea party support to. Whatever will Ron Paul do?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149.....ation.aspx

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 3:36PM

Oh no, the news get worse. Now Romny beats Obama, Perry ties him. Bachman is 2 points behind and Paul is now 4.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/149.....-Paul.aspx

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:46PM

" Tea party criticism about Perry's immigration record is now appearing on activist blogs in Arizona and New Hampshire.

We have not seen much at all on immigration, nothing at all," said Suzanne Guggenheim, a Texas-based member of the Tea Party Patriots National Leadership Council. "There is some disappointment" with his leadership on the issue.
f Perry becomes president, Texas illegal immigration opponents say, conservative voters shouldn't expect tough leadership on the issue.

JoAnn Fleming, chairwoman of the Tea Party Caucus advisory committee to the Texas Legislature, said, "We have a little bit of trouble imagining that our governor could do that on the national level."

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 4:15PM

And from the Tea pary Caucus advisory committee to the Texas Legislature.

"Greg Holloway of Austin made it clear that the advisory committee knows its limitations. “While we intend to bring the views of grassroots conservatives across Texas to the attention of the Tea Party Caucus, we do not claim that we speak for any tea party, 9-12 or other groups,” said Holloway. “These groups have been, and will continue to be, speaking for themselves. We hope, however, that we can provide a sounding board for the Tea Party Caucus on issues that fall squarely within our tea party principles.”

http://havinganaustinteaparty......_2010.html

Even they do not speak for all the Tea party

And Jo Ann Fleming seems to be a member but not the chairwoman from what I can find. And she backs Perry on spending cuts.
http://www.teaparty911.com/iss.....mittee.htm

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:06PM

Not For Long.

The Tea Party In Texas & New Hampshire Are After This Plastic Fake, Phoney, Fraud.

He's Bullshit,Like Mittens Romney.

You Perry Apologist Flunkies Are Afraid Of The Tea Party.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 5:56PM

Plastic, fake phony fraud you say? Can't stop that projecting, can you?

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:42PM

Everyone
Ignore Clint and he will go away.
Then we won't have to scroll past his inane comments.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 6:28PM

6% clint, since any "unnamed republican" beats Obama in the polls, how do you find it encouraging that Ron Paul is still losing to him?

kate| 8.30.11 @ 10:39PM

I live in Texas and the toll roads are great. Worth every dime to pay $1.50 to avoid the traffic and save 45 minutes (and my life).
Get over it.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:26PM

So give us some more of the lowdown on Perry. Is he worth supporting? Enquiring minds and all.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 11:52PM

I am relatively new to Texas, so I probably don't know more than you. I think it is sad that we can't find a candidate with some ba@@s to stand up for capitalism and freedom.
Perry/Rubio might mean a new future.
Perry is tough and Rubio is smart and charismatic. (albeit young)
I know that Texas is thriving. I've never seen people work so hard. Day and night.
And they seem happy! Despite the fire ants and traffic...
It is almost like they know they have a fighting chance at the good life.
I know that redistribution of wealth is a grand idea, but it will fail, because people won't work day and night to have it taken from them.
I know that most conservatives are aware of right and wrong and race simply has no weight in their political thinking.
If it takes a cowboy to do the right thing, then so be it.
We cannot be anti-business and expect people to prosper and hire. We can't be weak and expect the enemy to admire us. We can't print money and think it will solve our problems.
I believe we need a strong leader with a vision and enough common sense to bring in the right experts to put us on the right track.
Perception is everything.

kate| 8.31.11 @ 12:15AM

Or ......I might just quote Nite, who is a real Texan and posted last on this blog.
"Nite| 8.30.11 @ 10:27PM

I am from TX and have voted for Perry in several elections and will do so again. Let clear a few things up. He believes in States rights. The Arizona immigration law was not passed by TX state Legislature, so Perry could not do so on his own. He has asked Obama several times to put troops on the border and has been refused. He has been fighting with Obama over the EPA regulations, which would destroy TX energy industry. Now as to the uninsured population in TX, there is a large illegal population and they are unlikely to have health insurance and also do not qualify for Medicaid. Perry did not come from wealth, so better understands the average voter. He is not ignorant or stupid as one poster indicated. He says what he means and means what he says. He is conservative, believes in balancing the budget, strong military, friend of Israel (this is important to me) he actually has a resume and can beat Obama and his teleprompter. He also has never lost an election."

Consider this...| 8.30.11 @ 7:36AM

I think one of the interesting things about Rick Perry is that -- someone made the point to me the other day that he's all the things -- he actually is what everyone thought Bush was. He -- the swashbuckling Texan who doesn't have a command of policy, isn't a details guy -- that actually is Rick Perry. He really is a Texan and he really does not care about policy as much as he does about the game. He loves -- he's a great campaigner. That's one of the reasons he's been so successful.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 8:10AM

Consider this unemployment, underemployment and economic growth are at FDR Great Depression levels across America, but not in Rick Perry's Texas.

Better a real man cowboy than a drugstore "cowboy" doing tricks in the White House closet.

RCV| 8.30.11 @ 11:20AM

You really have personal problems with sexual identity, Michael. Go see OT.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 11:37PM

Blah, blah, blah . . . I knew who Obama was long before he took up residence in the White House.

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 1:11PM

Did you know him in the Biblical sense, Michael?

Tracey| 8.30.11 @ 12:57PM

Better a fiscal conservative businessman with a record of turning things around than a corrupt, career politician that is not a fiscal conservative.

Consider this: Rick Perry took Obama's stimulus when other conservative governors declined. Rick Perry borrowed money for TX and they are now $33 billion in debt. Perry makes deals that help his buddies and his wallet. Case in point- Merck and the Cancer Vaccine.

Gary B| 8.30.11 @ 8:08AM

Yes, it does.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 10:32AM

If Perry doesn't want to sound like Bush he should dump his foreign policy and call for bringing all the troops home now from overseas. It should of been done 20 years ago. Then this country wouldn't be broke and all these so called allies could have done their own defense. All we have done is finance socialism in Europe and Israel. Both places need to spend their own money and blood on their defenses not those of Americans. I further predict that some of the candidates will call for bringing the troops home now. I would guess Romney will move in that direction and soon. Some of you guys may hate Ron Paul, but he is setting the agenda for debate on both foreign and domestic policy.

CraigS| 8.30.11 @ 7:00AM

Interesting that Catron has a Degree in Liberal Studies from Oglethorpe...a pretty liberal school itself. He should know that Health Care in Texas is pretty good for Doctors.....and pretty lousy for patients, especially Poor patients. And Perry has done zip to improve health care for everybody, but he's done quite a bit for Doctors. Some of his very best friends ( donors ) are Doctors.
As far as " Insurance mandates," Catron as the resident savant is well aware of the difference between Legislative Mandates .....and Executive Mandates. Perry's Gardasil mandate was HIS mandate, not the Texas legislature. He was overridden by his OWN GOP legislature with a veto proof majority when he refused to change the mandate. Yes, he said he was dumb to do it.....and we are all finding out he is right.

CraigS

Tracey| 8.30.11 @ 7:49AM

It is actions like the one one outlined above, that causes one to question Perry' judgement.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 8:13AM

A mistake he's acknowledged and complimented the legislature for overturning. That's the judgment of a leader who recognizes the limits of power not a wannabe dictator like Barack "Hugo Chavez" Obama.

Tracey| 8.30.11 @ 1:06PM

Micheal- that is not leadership- that is political expediency

idalily| 8.30.11 @ 5:39PM

No, it's called making a mistake, admitting it, and moving on. Anyone can make a bad call. Jeez. Is perfection on every single decision the only thing that will satisfy people nowadays?

Pull your head out of the sand| 8.30.11 @ 1:21PM

LOL- It is called political expediency not leadership.

squirrel| 8.30.11 @ 1:23PM

It's a damning indictment of his character. It shows he is willing to throw the serfs under the bus for the sake of loyalty to contributors (Merck, in this case). Will he do the same as president? How about an executive order mandating vaccinations based on whatever Merck other Big Pharma firms decide they need to sell? And with "Chiner" the largest creditor, what would he be willing to do for them? Can we count on Congress to overturn his EOs? I don't think so.

As Perry would say, Adios, mofo

kate| 8.30.11 @ 3:40PM

My understanding is that Perry has acknowledged that he made a mistake mandating the vaccination.
I read that, because it is so expensive, mandating it was the only way the state could off- set the cost to those who couldn't afford it.
A mistake. He admitted it.
Everyone is so cynical. Why is it that Texans are always in a little "conspiracy" to make their "friends" rich, but left are doing it for the sake of "ideas".
I think it is the other way around.
Mitt on the other had has a huge problem with the healthcare issue.
Talk about out of touch...
Who is advising him? Has he been on the internet?
Why he didn't come out months ago and say he made a mistake? I can't understand.
Although, at this point I'd vote for my dog rather than have 4 more years of you know who!
Watching perry and waiting.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 3:51PM

BTW
We have some trolls visiting today. I hope this sight keeps an eye on them, because it will only get worse as the election approaches.
Conservatives are such a polite, thoughtful (if angry) bunch that the left has a hard time making us look bad.
The posers are easy to spot.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 4:34PM

You are the troll Kate. Real conservaatives are sick of all the wars and bailouts that Romney and Perry represent.

idalily| 8.30.11 @ 5:40PM

Comedy gold right here.

idalily| 8.30.11 @ 5:40PM

I was talking to Jack, by the way, not Kate.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 8:54PM

Gee Jack
Your comments haven't been interesting enough to follow...but I'll try to pay attention.
What is your opinion about the conservative candidate field?
Hello?
Unless, I am mistaken, you are a liberal, (gold :)) whiney, labor loser.
Let me get this right. You think money grows on communist little trees that Algore plants while he isn't jet setting the world raking in the bucks.
There is no money left!
There is no money.
God, how many times do we have to tell you liberals that fact.
No money.
No money.
No money for business means no money for you.
No money for us means no food, no house, no fun
Kinda like the USSR
You either let business thrive or you are out on the street.
No more freebees for the damned unions.
Stop your fake war whining and move to south america already.

RCV| 8.30.11 @ 10:38PM

You are mistaken. Jack is no liberal. He is a Libertarian with a capital "L" like his hero, DR Ron Paul, Gynecologist.

Shill Watch| 8.30.11 @ 10:59PM

It is better than being a pretend Episcopalian with a pretend family. Jewish and gay is not a problem here.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:29PM

Huh?

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 1:12PM

I didn't understand it either.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 11:11PM

Well, I consider myself somewhat of a libertarian too, but I also know we need to win this election.
Ron Paul is weird.
Common sense should and will prevail, but comments like Jack's just don't ring true. I think he is trolling.
Nothing will change my mind . Mute point.

Franca Penati| 8.30.11 @ 7:01AM

Excellent article. It reflects reality not the opinion of the Republican elite completely out of touch with Republican rank and file. Romney has no chance to win, no spontaneity, Perry connects better with people and He produced results.

Have you considered| 8.30.11 @ 7:12AM

I don't believe I could even talk myself into pulling the lever for Romney.

That said, although I haven't watched any Perry speeches yet, I do have a couple nits to pick with what I have read so far.

1) His support for wind power makes me question his mathematical abilities and his motivations. It is cost prohibitive and unreliable, yet he supported subsidies and mandates for for this industry. If you don't believe in AGW, which he says he doesn't, then you simply can't articulate a good reason to support wind power that makes any sense whatsoever.

2) Texas did not borrow money until Perry became governor. They are now over 33Billion in debt. If you think that today's borrowing is tomorrows taxes like I do, you might frown on this.

3) Yes, the executive order on the cancer vaccine bothers me on several levels. That his former Chief of Staff worked for Merck's government affairs at the time shows lobby influence beyond an acceptable level. I have seen Perry's defenders argue that it did have an opt out, and if you think you should have to fight a legal battle with city hall before you exercise your right to opt out, then he appears to be your guy.

4) LaRaza and the Texas Dream Act. If you believe that taxpayers should subsidize illegal's education, then so be it. His talking this week about getting Janet Napolitano to reimburse Texas for the cost of jailing criminal illegals is simply a pander to those of us who do not support open borders, amnesty, and the Dream Act. He has at least tacitly approved Houston's and other Texas cities sanctuary city policies, so he at this point, he is pandering to both sides of this issue.

But I will say, that just about ANY person is better than Obama, but I'm not convinced that Perry would be a good pick.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 7:28AM

I AM convinced that Romney is definately a WORSE pick though. I could probably hold my nose and vote for Perry, but Romney is not an option. Romney is just the same process that this RINO dominated party goes through every election, its his turn. It was Doles turn, then it was McCains turn..............

Sean| 8.30.11 @ 1:13PM

Perry is as much a RINO as Romney. He was praising Hillary Care in 1993. The man has no principles.

http://www.chron.com/news/hous.....914428.php

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 3:24PM

And the Ron Paul/ Lew Rockwell/ Justin Raimondo RINOS do not want to see a man strong in his convictions, who is for a strong military defense and knows who are allies are~ one of which is Israel~ to become President.

This they share in common with the Leftists~ and Obama.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:56PM

" Perry has troubled relationship with tea party

Tea Party groups from New Hampshire to Texas are collaborating to criticize Perry's record on immigration, public health and spending and his former affiliation with the Democratic Party.

Austin Tea Party activist Don Zimmerman, like many tea party activists in Texas and New Hampshire, prefer libertarian Rep. Ron Paul in his third presidential bid. Paul, Zimmerman said, is the true tea party favorite.

"Ron Paul pretty much invented the national tea party," said Zimmerman, a member of the Texas State Republican Executive Committee. "It's really unfair for these other candidates to come along and claim to be the tea party favorite. It's almost like it's starting to lose its meaning."

The tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Rise Up.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 4:29PM

"Ron Paul pretty much invented the national tea party,"

LOL. You mean like how Algore invented the internet?

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 8:21PM

Nice!

emo| 8.30.11 @ 8:42PM

Perry didnt endorse Hillarycare once it became public in the fall of 1993. He opposed it. BTW Reagan favored gun control and liberalized abortion laws in CA in 1967, a mere nine years before he ran for President. You Paulbots are as dishonest as they come

Chalkdust| 8.30.11 @ 8:19AM

"Have You Considered"....Loved your four points, very thought-provoking. The primary season is for peeling back the layers and trying to look as deep as can into each canidate. I think making up ones mind to early in the process is shallow. For my part, I like nearly all of the current Republican canidate with one or two excetion. It is my opinion, at this point in time, Fred Flintstone could beat Barry Obama. If Romney could shake the "RINO's next in line" lable, he would be a very attractive canidate. Time will tell.

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 8:21AM

Sorry, but I can't lock arms with the "No Romney no matter what" crowd.

I'd vote for an orange juice can if it had a chance to beat Obama.

Is Romney the ideal candidate? No. But who is? Regardless, "President" Romney on his worst day would be better than an unleashed, 2nd-term Obama with no concerns for re-election in 2016.

Additionally, "President" Romney would not likely ignore a Conservative, Tea Party-driven House and Senate if he wanted to be re-elected in 2016.

The most important thing to remember for 2012 is "ABO" - Anybody But Obama.

To that end, if Romney is the nominee, I'll pull the lever for him. He'll, if it comes to that, I'd vote for Ron Paul or John Huntsman if it meant defeating Obama.

NOTHING could be worse for this country than a second term for Obama.

Always Question| 8.30.11 @ 2:18PM

Right on target. I'd vote for any of the Republican candidates over the "Disaster on the Potomac".

DaveD| 8.30.11 @ 4:05PM

I'd even vote for John mcCain or Bouncy Bubbly Bob Dole if it came to that.

idalily| 8.30.11 @ 5:41PM

Agreed. An orange juice can would definitely be a better leader.

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 8:22AM

Sorry, but I can't lock arms with the "No Romney no matter what" crowd.

I'd vote for an orange juice can if it had a chance to beat Obama.

Is Romney the ideal candidate? No. But who is? Regardless, "President" Romney on his worst day would be better than an unleashed, 2nd-term Obama with no concerns for re-election in 2016.

Additionally, "President" Romney would not likely ignore a Conservative, Tea Party-driven House and Senate if he wanted to be re-elected in 2016.

The most important thing to remember for 2012 is "ABO" - Anybody But Obama.

To that end, if Romney is the nominee, I'll pull the lever for him. He'll, if it comes to that, I'd vote for Ron Paul or John Huntsman if it meant defeating Obama.

NOTHING could be worse for this country than a second term for Obama.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:29AM

You Pull Everything Joisey GOP RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkie.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Rise Up.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:46AM

That's Three Phoney Israel Firster Posts.

Dr.Reich & His Phoney Punk Posters Are Afraid Of The Tea Party.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 9:34AM

Heres another newsflash for your entertainment. Isreal isn't going anywhere, better get used to it because if they do "go somewhere" the entire middle east is going with them. They have 300+ nuclear warheads that say so. Whether your anti-Jewish/Isreal obsession can handle that or not is your problem.

Have you considered| 8.30.11 @ 10:12AM

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the US has a military alliance with Isreal via ratified treaty.

I am not well versed in this treaty, and I do not know if it calls upon the US to defend Isreal in the event that they start a war...do any of you?

I believe Isreal has every right as a sovereign nation to defend itself, and I don't think it is right that the US dictate to them in this area unless this too is a component of our treaty.

I will say that I am not a proponent of give away foreign aid in any measure. I believe if US citizens want to contribute to any country, it should be voluntary and routed through a charity or other means. Compulsory charity is anathema to the Constitution.

I simply do not believe that our founders, who were frugal and wise, and believed Only in taxation to fund the Enumerated Powers as specified in Article 1, Section 8, would agree with this use of tax dollars.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 4:39PM

Israel has no common defense treaty with the United States. We have carried them on our backs for years but we don't have anything on paper. The hundreds of billions we have squandered on israel is Nothing but an unconstitutional subsidy to Jewish and Christian zionist religious fantasies.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 6:42PM

Yeah, just like we carry Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, the Balkans, and god knows how many other clients on our backs just like Isreal. So what? Don't like Jews Huh? Didn't know anti-semitism was that much back in vogue in Wisconsin. Thats right, the Jews are taking over the world, they crashed the 9/11 planes, financed the whole thing. You f!cking libertards are certified.

Jack in Wi.| 8.31.11 @ 1:19AM

I want to cut off all the foreign aid to everyone else too. Israel will have to get another sugar daddy. We are broke and getting broker.

Mike D.| 8.31.11 @ 9:44AM

Yeah, but some how your obsessed with Isreal. When foreign aid is mentioned, Ahhh, those evil Jews in Isreal comes up first. Why is that Jack? With you libertards somehow its always Isreal thats the issue or the problem. Damn then Jews huh jack! I love to hear anti-semites rants, its really a definitive identifying feature of a classical obsessed mental case.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 10:37AM

Clint you want to stop these posters who steal your name. Sign all your posts thats are yours with this term. Praise be Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. God Bless His vicar on earth the Pope. Most of these zionists would rather choke then write that down. You should point out however all the false posts as well. Just keep kicking butt. These people have red behinds already.

Doctor Right| 8.30.11 @ 1:03PM

"Praise be Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. God Bless His vicar on earth the Pope."

As one of the so-called "Zionists" on this board, I can attest to the fact that I have NO problem writing this down.

I have nothing personal against the Pope. And writing this statement does NOT bind me to any particular faith, either.

So what's your point, Jack?

Or are you making yet another thinly-veiled anti-Semitic statement?

You're a sick man.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 4:44PM

The point is Dr. Wrong that all over the internet Israeli's working for the ministry of propaganda are stinking up any site that has an honest discussion of our foreign policy. They name call, steal names and talk nonsense. They do anything but have an honest discusssion. If they have an honest discussion they always lose. It is called Hasbara. Go look it up if you don't know what it is.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 4:56PM

Watch out Jack, there's a Mossad agent stalking you from behind that tree.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 9:41PM

Hit the road Jack! :)))))

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 1:40PM

Praise the Lord Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. God bless all those who receive Him and obey His Words.

"For whoever is ashamed of Me and of My Words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels." Lk. 9:26.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:38PM

Shazam, how philosophical!!!!!!!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:20PM

Jack, It's A Form Of Ass-Backwards Israel Firster Compliment.

These Israel Firsters Are Scared Of The Tea Party.
You Can Tell,Who The Ruling Elites' RINO-CINO Apologist Stooges Are Afraid Of.

American Spectator Readers Aren't Morons. They Are Getting What Doctor Reich & His Girlfriends Are Up To.

We Tea Party Patriots Are Used To RINO-CINO GOP Agendists Attempting To Marginalize & Smear Up Our Candidates, From Sarah Palin, To Michele Bachmann, To Dr.Ron Paul.

It Comes With Our Tea Party Rebellion.

We Can Deal With It.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:22PM

This One's My Post.

Doctor Reich Thinks He Can Confuse American Spectator Readers & Render We Tea Party Patriots & Dr.Ron Paul Marginalized & Smeared Up.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 6:45PM

The only rebellion your ever going to lead will be the one out of the state hospital in whatever state you are committed in. Now take your meds and get back to the therapy discussion.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 9:48PM

I am all for the tea party. I was there at the beginning.
Since when does the tea party have "leaders"?
It was just a bunch of small business leaders, plumbers, doctors and such coming out to protest the end of capitalism.
Leaders-shmeaders.
While I like some of what Ron Paul has to say, I think he is weird and not electable.
This is an emergency.
I am looking (but not committed) to
Perry/Rubio.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:11PM

Not My Post.

That's Doctor Reich's Fake Post.

He Thinks American Spectator Readers Won't Catch On.

Stand Up To Him.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:40PM

Excrement, he actually said something! Wait, he said the same GD thing repeatedly for the last five months!!!!!!!

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 11:20AM

Point #3. Legal battle? All you have to do is ask for a exemption using this simple to find online form.
https://webds.dshs.state.tx.us/immco/affidavit.shtm

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 11:40AM

This was in reply to Have you considered's talking points.

Have you considered| 8.30.11 @ 2:18PM

DS, yes this form is simple, and if you are willing to seek exemption from the state for a vaccine, then you are more tolerant of state intervention than I.

Do you know why there are multiple forms needed? ("no more than 5 forms per child")

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 3:46PM

No idea, but do you also have the same reservations about all mandated child vaccines required for school?
http://cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/s.....hedule.pdf

The facts on Gardasil vaccine and the diseases it prevents. Scroll down and check out the vaccine safety

http://cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-HPV-vaccine-hcp.htm

martin j smith| 8.30.11 @ 7:23AM

The candidate that takes the fight to right to Obama
and most effectively. That person will also take the fight to the LEFT directly and may well call their agenda SOCIALISM --as it really is. Not, " Liberalism". The candidate who actually makes his or her case with a clear idea of how to make things work--one who prove they are competent no matter what the MSM garbage brings us--and, the one who can force Obama and his friends out of the vacation closet and get in a debate on the issues--Finally, one who can show an ability to
bring even some percentage of ( let me use their given name ) Democrats into the fold--that is the one
who will win. The one who shows fear of being up front will be the loser. So far, given all of these matters Perry is the man--so far.

POST American| 8.30.11 @ 7:25AM

----Catch that photo! --the crooked smile
NEVER a good sign.

-----------------------------------------NEVER

JohnK| 8.30.11 @ 10:58AM

Wow. That's some deep analysis. What's next? Should we look at the "crease in his pants?"

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 3:20PM

You see it as a crooked smile, but not everyone does~

and anyhow~ even if it was a crooked smile, better that than a smile permanently to the Left, such as the current occupant of the people's House possesses.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 7:26AM

Tom Tancredo,
"When I ran for president in 2008, I tried to pressure the Republican candidates to take a hard line against illegal immigration. For this, Perry called me a racist.

When he first took office as governor in 2001, Perry went to Mexico and bragged about his law that granted “the children of undocumented workers” special in-state tuition at Texas colleges, the first state in the nation to do so.

“The message is simple,” Perry concluded, “educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.” Education is the future, and (echoing Cesar Chavez’s slogan) yes we can.]

Just a few weeks ago, Perry defended his decision to give in-state tuition to illegal immigrants. He said “to punish these young Texans for their parents’ actions is not what America has always been about.”

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 2:09PM

Seeing how Tom dropped out and and threw his weight behind Mitt Romney last election should we be surprised were his loyalties lie?

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:30PM

You're Afraid Of The Tea Party, Drunk Swabbie.

" Tea party criticism about Perry's immigration record is now appearing on activist blogs in Arizona and New Hampshire.

We have not seen much at all on immigration, nothing at all," said Suzanne Guggenheim, a Texas-based member of the Tea Party Patriots National Leadership Council. "There is some disappointment" with his leadership on the issue.
f Perry becomes president, Texas illegal immigration opponents say, conservative voters shouldn't expect tough leadership on the issue.

JoAnn Fleming, chairwoman of the Tea Party Caucus advisory committee to the Texas Legislature, said, "We have a little bit of trouble imagining that our governor could do that on the national level."

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 3:53PM

Afraid of the tea party? Not at all asshat, I agree with most of what they say. Just not your version of it.

And as for border control.
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....61476.html
http://governor.state.tx.us/ne.....ase/13577/

A little homework isn't hard to do.

Asshat

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:07PM

Do Your Homework Drunk Swabbie.

" Perry led the nation in allowing undocumented immigrant students to pay in-state tuition in Texas state universities. He has been opposed to immigrant-bashing and racial profiling laws such as Arizona's SB 1070, saying they would not be right for Texas. He has questioned the effectiveness and rejected the use of the federal E-Verify system, designed for employers to check the legal status of job applicants. He has described efforts to deny citizenship to the US-born children of illegal immigrants as "divisive," and he has been critical of Republicans who spew hatred of immigrants.

Not surprisingly, the anti-immigrant organization Numbers USA gives Perry a D- grade on immigration. "

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 4:36PM

Believe it or not. I agree with you that illegal immigrants should not get to pay in state tuition. I agree with Perry on Immigrant bashing and racial profiling though. They are not neccessary to enforce the immigration laws already in place. Which by the way is the Feds job, not the states, and is why Perry has billed the Feds for the states having to pick up the slack. He has also pushed for the Federal goverment to fulfill their role as immigration enforcement.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:36PM

Well, if Perry loses the Republican nomination, it will be only his first such loss [as compared to Paul's numerous losses since he runs MORE THAN AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN CRIMINAL WHEN CONFRONTED BY POLICE]!!!!!

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 4:50PM

Ron Paul has been elected to public office 11 times He has lost 4 elections believe. That's a preety good batting average considering the 2 previous for President were more educational efforts. this time he has the money, large personal following and the issues which are driving the debate. He will be president or someone who tries to sound like him, wil be. The country has moved to him and it is his time.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 4:59PM

His two previous runs for President were educational efforts? His or ours? Lord knows I learned a lot about him and his conspiracy theorist die hard supporters. His regular supports are fine but the ones like you and Clint (Asshat) give the rest a bad name.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 5:32PM

When He ran as Libertarian in 1988 he had no expectation of winning. He ran in 2008 as a protest against the war and to educate the people about his long held ideals. No one was more surprised then he was at the huge crowds and money he raised. He has said so many times himself. This time he is in it too win and has the issues, money, organization, and the large numbers of committed supporters to do it.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 6:46PM

"Committed supporters" are the key words in that paragraph.

RCV| 8.30.11 @ 10:43PM

Like Ralph Nader on the left, Ron Paul runs to stroke his ego.

Shill Watch| 8.30.11 @ 11:02PM

Wait a minute. It is time for 1 in 4 lefties to go out and cast their vote for Ralph. It is time to send a message.

docyeager| 8.30.11 @ 7:33AM

Perry definitely is the lesser of two evils. Yes I would choose Perry any day over Romney. And yet he's like a Texas Longhorn bull in a china closet. You know That kind of Rambo attitude. We talk about Obama's arrogance, and rightfully so. There's something about Perry that will turn off many people. Everybody always complained about George Bush Junior, but I actually think Perry is worse. I hope I am wrong!

Who is Rick Perry?| 8.30.11 @ 7:40AM

Rick Perry is whoever he needs to be to elected. Sound familiar?

hardcard| 8.30.11 @ 7:43AM

Lots of trolls working the net and more to come, it's a full court press

Butch| 8.30.11 @ 3:31PM

Noticed that. Your stimulus dollars at work.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 9:29PM

I know someone with code pink who can't keep her feathered- brained mouth shut and she is attending "training" for just such a troll purpose.
They can't win the old fashioned way...like by stating facts.
I think conservatives are naive, but we are stronger and smarter.

burt| 8.30.11 @ 7:53AM

I see Axelrod has his brain dead Left wing nutter Obots and the Jew hating Paulites are out in full force smearing Perry.
The fact the American haters in both camps along with the Soros media operatives are this scared of Perry says it all.
Perry can stop the Soros-Buffet puppet his agenda to destroy the USA .
Romney is a disaster with an awful record to run from and not on. Romney care mortally wounded this clown and the poorly timed multi-million dollar expansion of his San Diego beach home was the last nail in the coffin.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:19AM

There it is.

Perry Plays The Race Card on Tom Tancredo & Perry's Supporters Play The Anti-Semite Card On Dr.Ron Paul's Supporters.

Go Sell Your Sand To The Arabs.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Rise Up.

kate| 8.31.11 @ 1:29AM

I concur.

kate| 8.31.11 @ 1:31AM

with BURT! not the freak Clint, who is a liberal operative, enjoying torturing intelligent people.
Please MODERATOR. Do something.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 7:54AM

Who cares what Obamacon Peggy Noonan thinks she's was an early supporter of Obama and has as much credibility as fellow Obamacon whores Jeffrey Hart, Bruce Bartlett or Chris Buckley. Like Pat Buchanan these Obamacons all betrayed the Reagan legacy and conservative movement long ago. It is time to start calling them what they are MSM sellouts and liberal’s pet “faux conservatives.” Ann Coulter (who recently jumped on the “gay rights” bandwagon) is blindly infatuated with moderate Chris Christie so who cares what this lovesick “kitty” thinks?

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 10:48AM

Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul have been right on foreign policy for decades. They are the true voices of the main street Republicans and conservatives. There is no way this country can return to fiscal sanity without bringing our troops home now, and only defending our own borders and shores. They follow in the shoes of such great Republicans as Robert M. LaFollette, George Norris,Warren Harding, Herbert Hooover, Robert Taft, Everett Dirkson, Dwight Eisenhower and yes Ronald Reagan. Reagan was for negotiations with your enemies and arms reductions. He wanted to rid the earth of nuclear weapons. He also said we should stay away from the Middle East and let them solve their own problems. The Republicans used to run as the party of peace and prosperity when I was young. It is time to do it again. Vote Ron Paul . He is the one to return this country to peace and prosperity.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 11:10AM

Ronald Reagan invaded Grenada. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya and if he hadn't listened to the pro-Arab wing of his cabinet he'd have bombed Iran's hirelings in the Lebanon into oblivion for murdering our Marines (Marines he sent their as Peace Keepers). He tied with George W. Bush with being the most pro-Israel President in US history.

Dwight Eisenhower continued the Korean War till we could come to an inconclusive peace, sent aid to France in Vietnam including American agents and was set to invade communist Cuba when JFK came to power and screwed up the Bay of Pigs by betraying the Cuban freedom fighters.

Rober LaFollette and George Norris (an notorious bigot and racist) were liberals and long ago lost influence in the GOP.

You need to learn some history.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 5:07PM

Dwight Eisenhower promised to end the Korean war and he did. He condemned the military industrial complex and this push for endless warfare. He was against our continued presence in Europe. He thought Europe had to eventually defend itself. Norris, Lafollette Hiram Johnson, Nye, Borah and all those other Republicans that oppposed the world wars were from the main street that was opposed to the big bankers and their wars. The people who are from the Communist and liberal branch of the spetrum are the Rockefeller Republicans of which the Bush's are part of. The neocons come from Trotskyite Communism and the liberal democrats. You are the scum that doesn't represent true Republicaan values. Go out and fight and pay for your own wars. We are sick of paying for your fantasies in blood and treasure.

Everything I said about Reagan is true. He saw what a mistake Lebanon was and got out. He never went back and advised Ameicans to stay away from the Middle East. He also went for treaties and negotiations with the Soviets. Many thousands of nuclear weapons were destroyed in the treaties. The neocons opposed him all the way. You point to a couple of minor schermishes and not the fact that he avoided war like the plague. He actully called the families of everyone killed on his watch. He felt a personal responsiblitiy for every soldier.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:33PM

"Dwight Eisenhower promised to end the Korean war and he did."
Thereby condemning the people of North Korea to a living hell they still endure today.
And the war has never formally ended.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 11:42PM

You moron there was no opposition of Reagn by so-called neo-cons. I do remember Ron Paul condemning Reagan's aggressive foreign policy and spending.

Jack in Wi.| 8.31.11 @ 1:27AM

The neocons opposed his peace efforts with Soviets all the way. You know nothing of history or politics. He just ignored them and signed the treaties. Eisenhower also told the Israeli's to get behind their borders and stay there in 1956. Another great decission. We should have told them the same thing in 1967 when they bombed the USSLiberty. The Middle East and world would be a far better place.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 11:58PM

During his failed 1988 Liberterian candidacy for President did RINO Ron Paul criticize Ronald Reagan as a "failure?"

Since RINO Ron Paul likes to cloak himself in Ronald Reagan why did he call his actions to save American hostages in Grenada "evil?"

"I personally believe that the most evil thing President Reagan did as president was to order the invasion of the tiny island of Grenada. Prior to the great U.S. military victory over Grenadian forces, which consisted of not much more than mowing down three men with fishing spears, the United States populace, because of Vietnam, was sick of war. The great "victory" in Grenada caused the taste for blood and pride in national military superiority to be reignited in the bowels of the American boobsie set..." RINO Ron Paul

"The American people, unfortunately, could not see that both actions were the result of the same flawed policy.... The Grenada invasion was heralded as a great triumph and applauded by the vast majority of American people.... Worst of all, and typical of our tragic foreign policy - in the midst of the Grenada invasion designed to make the world safe for democracy by stopping the spread of communism - President Reagan, behind the scenes, was forcefully lobbying for specific aid to 'Communist-dictators' through additional IMF funding. The invasion of Grenada is hardly the victory the American people were led to believe." RINO Ron Paul

Politically isn't it true that RINO Ron Paul consistently opposed President Reagan's muscular and pro-American foreign policy? Going so far as to attack him for responding to terrorist attacks against American by Libya?

"The U.S. policy toward Libya further confirms our irrational foreign policy. Under Reagan we have been determined to pick a fight with Khadafi, defying him with naval and air maneuvers in the Gulf of Sidra. As we try to emphasize our right to navigate in international waters near Libya, we totally reject the territorial waters of Nicaragua by mining their harbors. The World Court rulings against the U.S. were ignored by the Reagan Administration...." RINO Ron Paul

Why did RINO Ron Paul equate Reagan's actions in Grenada to save American hostages to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? Why did he gullibly parrot the liberal Democrat line that it was an October surprise?

"One discouraging aspect of Reagan's October Surprise is the huzzahing by which the American public greeted the war in Grenada. It is over-optimistic to believe that the public is opposed to war; as was the case in Vietnam, the American masses are only opposed to a war that the U.S. has difficulty in winning. Give them a quick victory, with small loss of American life, and they love it. As one Pennsylvanian said after the invasion, "I'm glad our President is a man!" Americans seem to have little interest in the immorality or illegality of the invasion, in the principle of non-intervention, or in the fact that the closest modern analogy to the US. assault on Grenada was the much-reviled Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, where the Soviets invaded a country whose Commie ruler was too Commie for the Soviets to handle. No, the average Americano seems to glory in the vicarious macho thrill of war, provided victory is swift, and the resistance of the foreign victim disappears quickly. RINO Ron Paul

While Ron Paul postures now as a supporter of Ronald Reagan isn't the truth that he fought against the Reagan agenda? Here is what RINO Paul's former chief of staff wrote demeaning and belittling President Reagan http://www.lewrockwell.com/pol.....epublican/

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:32PM

Yeah, Ron Paul really did well in 2008, right??????

PaleRider1861| 8.30.11 @ 12:39PM

Michael, don't forget, she is the sometimes girlfriend of that paragon of comedy and satire, none other than creepy Bill Maher.

I am not sure how Ann's support of enforced homosexual unions will increase her dating pool, but her thought process is suspect, to say the least.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 11:48PM

Pale Rider good point.

martin j smith| 8.30.11 @ 7:59AM

As for trolls, you bet you can tell them a mile away. Just keep in mind first beat Obama. But there is this:
Ask your self this question: Why would Obama behave the way he is in the wake of very bad falling poll numbers. Why does he seem not to care ?

a) he assumes a one term presidency.
b) he will create a crisis that could lead to a virtual coup..
c)He will encourage voter fraud on a larger scale than has ever been known to man, woman or child.
d)he will resign and not run like LBJ ( same as a )

The candidate who will be the Nominee must deal with all of the above in my view.

DaveD| 8.30.11 @ 4:10PM

e) He could be just plain stupid, or an unrepentant ideologue.

Mike D.| 8.30.11 @ 6:49PM

We have a winner here, ding, ding, ding!!

DaveD| 8.30.11 @ 4:10PM

e) He could be just plain stupid, or an unrepentant ideologue.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 8:25PM

Alright. That's enough. You just like to hear Mike ring the bell.

martin j smith| 8.30.11 @ 8:00AM

Oh I forgot to mention. I think Perry is more capable of responding to the above than Romney.

Gary B| 8.30.11 @ 8:12AM

Perry is more capable to responding to anything than Romney.

Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 8.30.11 @ 8:10AM

Perry's only in the lead right now, because Romney completely sucks!! The field isn't set in stone yet, so give it time, and things will work out!! And even if they don't work out, "any" flawed Candidate will be better than the Human Tornado that we have living in the White House right now. And even if, God forbid, Romney does get the nomination, just hold your nose, and pull the lever for him on Election Day!! That would suck, but it's better than the Commie we've got right now!! I just hope it doesn't come to that.

Please, Lord in Heaven above, send us the right answer!!

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 10:54AM

Perry has foot in the mouth desease. I predict he will implode within a couple of months. If I had to choose between the 2, I would chose Romney. He at least ran a business and seems to be more intellignt. But really it is a deplorible choice. Either candidate would give the Demcrats a fighting chance to keep the presidency and power.

JohnK| 8.30.11 @ 11:18AM

Nonsense. Perry's political approach is not like anything the left has faced before. Read up on it. His "public comments" are anything but "foot in the mouth disease." They are well-timed, well-placed traps for the leftist media, and they bite every time. Put it this way, the media will be giving Perry more free advertising than any campaign could buy. And even if the leftists are trying to demonize him, what he's saying will actually APPEAL to the mainstream of America.

Butch| 8.30.11 @ 3:42PM

JohnK, are you from Texas? I spend a lot of time there. I am under the impression that Perry has a bit of a mean streak in him, and that makes me feel good about his candidacy. I think a mean streak will be a significant asset in the upcoming election. I think maybe he's a guy who can go for jugular without appearing particularly mean while doing it. Maybe I'm talking about the killer instinct. It's just an intuition I have, but I'd be interested in hearing Texans' responses.

JohnK| 8.30.11 @ 4:11PM

No, not from Texas. But I have been looking very close at the people he's used to develop his past campaigns. He's used a very peculiar approach in in those campaigns, using far less conventional means of communicating with constituents. Utilizing the media by tweaking them is only one method. The rest is a combination of high-tech and grassroots messaging. I believe it will be very effective both in the primaries, as well as the general election.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 8:27PM

I so want to see someone go for Jugears' jugular and make it stick (pun intended).

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:31PM

Like the Democrats whose up-the-unions'-a*&hole;-in-Wisconsin????????

Intelligent Design| 8.30.11 @ 8:11AM

No president except F. Roosevelt has been reelected while presiding over such a dismal economy with 9% unemployment. Perry will win.

Romney would make a good running mate, for Obama.

Stuart Koehl| 8.30.11 @ 8:24AM

Short answer: Perry has gonads, Romney does not.

W| 8.30.11 @ 9:59AM

The more I hear Perry, and learn about his background, the more I like him. When I read that Peggy Noonan and Karl Rove don't like him, that convinced me to vote for Perry.
Perry seved in the Air Force, flew the 130's, has a good record, good campaigner, and is likable. He can beat Obama. Romney is ok, but Perry has a better chance.
The real question is who is the VP? Bachman, or Rubio, or Santorum?

Noonan was one of those Manhattan Republicans who voted for Obama, along with Chris Buckley.

olainfree| 8.30.11 @ 8:25AM

The Dems intend to play their trusty ace in the hole: the race card. You can be sure with the unrest that is being stoked that the Dems through their surrogates will remind the grievance mongers that Mitt's daddy, George, called out the Feds to quell the Detroit race riots in 1967.

Something to think about

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:34AM

Herman Cain as VP would eliminate that. Cain's business experience would also help shore up Perry's (or another candidate's) bona fides in that area. However, as was pointed out above, the ticket is not yet set in stone, no matter how much the legacy media might want it to be.
I would personally be happy to see it go to the convention floor. I think we would have the strongest ticket possible were that to happen.

Ken (Old Texican)| 8.30.11 @ 8:29AM

Wow,
the trolls sure did get out of the rack early today.
They only deserve a copy paste from me:
''More Thoughts on Rick Perry
As with most men with convictions and passion…and a long public record, Rick Perry is going to be hammered from every direction.

He is going to be hammered by arch conservatives for being too ‘reasonable’ and practicing the politics of the possible. (Ronald Reagan’s phrase)

The communists, (pardon the shorthand), are lining up a whole host of lies and half truths. Many of their arrows can already be seen and heard on youtube.

The Libertarians and fellow anarchists are going to hammer him for offering to help our little girls avoid ovarian cancer, or because he encourages free trade, or because he thought it would be a good idea to build a freeway for ‘thru’ traffic for our trade with our southern neighbors. Trade in both directions I might add.

Mexico is probably Texas’ largest trading partner. Combine that with a large (legal), Hispanic population, it would be absolutely insane for a Texas Governor to posture and brag about immigration reform.
Have no doubts though; the Texas Rangers and Texas Guard troops are staying quite busy. Long term, until the US Congress outlaws “anchor babies”, any immigration debate is worthless.

(Sigh), I got to keep typing the same facts so ALL of you can get over the lies.
Yes, Perry signed an executive order.........with an opt-out clause.
That way insurance companies, (and Texas Medicaid), would pay the damned innoculation charges.
There are hundreds of thousands of single moms here in Texas with a "boyfriend"...and a series of boyfriends who routinely rape their little daughters.

Perry saw some statistics about little girls developing cancer due to that, and candidly I think Governor Perry just got pissed off.

Personally, I think he would have rather loaded up his six gun and gone out and blown those boyfriends' testicles off for child rape.
That would have made re-election pretty difficult.

See we have a lot of immigrants from failed US States. Most of them bring their failed State attitudes with them.
Now...native Texans would have simply applauded him and passed the ammunition... and re-elected him in a landslide.
We native Texans don't like child rapists.
We REALLY don't like child rapists.
Any of you that can abide child rapists...please don't move to Texas.
I'm so proud of Governor Perry making a "statement" in this regard and bringing the conversation "public".
If nothing else, a bunch of lonely moms will keep a closer eye on their looser boyfriends

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 8:44AM

Ronald Reagan,
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are traveling the same path."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Rise Up.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 10:17AM

Ron Paul is a nut.

Drunken Sailor| 8.30.11 @ 2:13PM

And a 6% favorite nut.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 3:46PM

" Tea party criticism about Perry's immigration record is now appearing on activist blogs in Arizona and New Hampshire.

We have not seen much at all on immigration, nothing at all," said Suzanne Guggenheim, a Texas-based member of the Tea Party Patriots National Leadership Council. "There is some disappointment" with his leadership on the issue.
f Perry becomes president, Texas illegal immigration opponents say, conservative voters shouldn't expect tough leadership on the issue.

JoAnn Fleming, chairwoman of the Tea Party Caucus advisory committee to the Texas Legislature, said, "We have a little bit of trouble imagining that our governor could do that on the national level."

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:29PM

And his followers are even more so!!!!!

WJ| 8.30.11 @ 8:49AM

Your state has millions of immigrants from a "failed" state of Mexico. After living down there (transferred by employer out of state now) and frequently returning, I will repeat the obvious - Texas is screwed in the very near future. The Latino invasion will sweep out all but the whitest or blackest district politicians. Texas will be a blue state.

Perry, along with feds has facilitated this.

Add all that to the fact that he is a goofball ignoramus, and you have four more years of the current disaster.

Ryan| 8.30.11 @ 9:09AM

Unlikely. Texas would have been a blue state by now if that were the case.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 9:17AM

Mexico's unemployment (without Obama) is half of ours (with Obama) – so much for a failed state.

Texas will do just fine with its Tejano population.

As for your analysis of Rick Perry how could anyone argue with your "profound" and "intellectually persuasive" insights?

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:28PM

OMG, Ken ....not you too? One copy/paster is enough. Besides, the space/verbage police will arrest you possibly if you continue same!!!!!!!

kate| 8.30.11 @ 4:06PM

I concur. Why is it that everyone, including the right, make excuses for the left and their misguided "ideology"?
Conservatives just want to" line the pockets of their friends", right?
Other way around if you look at the money the left has stolen from the people and enriched the likes of gore, sorros, et al.
What a bunch of bunk.
Maybe Perry has a sense of right and wrong.
He admitted he made a mistake mandating the vaccine.
I do not believe it was to enrich his friends.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 9:10PM

I was replying to Ken (old texican)

Mimi| 8.30.11 @ 8:31AM

Right now Perry looks the better candidate. He looks at people in the eye, stoops for a child, says the things we want to hear, the way we like to hear it...Looks nice...has a good voice...BUT...
We worry about his views on immigration...how the southerner will play in the NORTH-EAST,...What is his history with alliances? Can he RUN the BIG SHOW??
Mitt on the other hand is a known ...what you see is it. Dependable, confident he being from the East and surrounded by Liberals is not a LIBERTY &TYRANNY; Conservative and somehow not on the same page as the bulk of US.
Looking at the Whole...and the gross trouble we are in right NOW either one will do....God will they do!!!

POST American| 8.30.11 @ 8:36AM

------Crooked smiles and 'benny violent'
(Rockefellow/ CFR) backing.

-----------THE TRUTH IS NOT IN THEM-----------

TAKE HEED

Pecos Pete| 8.30.11 @ 8:39AM

It is early in the nomination process. Any of the Republican candidates is better than King O.

If I had to vote today in a Republican primary for a conservative I'd vote for Cain. If the field was limited to Perry and Romney, I'd vote for Perry in a heartbeat.

A Perry/Rubio ticket would be better than okay with me.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 8:56AM

I think it's going to be Perry-Rubio in 2012. TWS is suggesting the possibility of a Perry-Martinez ticket, but I'm skeptical.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 1:59PM

I love Herman Cain, love the man and love what he stands for.
If so many weren't so indoctrinated by the Left in this country against conservatism, a man like Hermain Cain could get elected easily.
The Left doesn't like down to earth, common sensical people.
It's the same reason they don't like Sarah Palin.
They aren't pointy-headed Liberals.
But they have everything it takes to right this ship called America.
I would love to see Herman Cain become President. Who knows, it's early, maybe his favorability will increase.
But I'm going to do what I've done without fail~ press that button or pull the lever for the Republican nominee because as always:

I'm into HOUNDING the Democrats out of office.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:23PM

Amen, Margie! The liberals [ie Democrats] are now into slandering Perry as DUMB, just as they've done with Palin, Bachmann etc. It's all the NE liberal/yankee Democrat establishment against the rest of the country [except California and their Aaaarnolds out there]. Anyone w/o a Harvard law degree is unintelligent [as hannity said, how intelligent do you have to be to drive this economy into the ditch as Obama has done in 3 years?]!!!!!!!

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 3:08PM

"There are none so intellectually vapid as those who have no common sense."

kate| 8.30.11 @ 9:12PM

I'm thinking Perry/Rubio.
Big time.

Bob| 8.30.11 @ 8:40AM

I want to see that beached whale in NJ run Hurricane Crisco and Michele with the VP spot. Blubbery/Dumb Cluck ticket.

kate| 8.30.11 @ 9:13PM

troll bob

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:35PM

We know.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:36PM

BTW, kate, welcome aboard!

P.Smith| 8.30.11 @ 8:44AM

If it comes down to a choice between Romney and Obama, I’ll pull the lever for neither. At least with Obama there would be opposition in the other branch. Romney is just another big government Republican and would do the same basic things as Obama which would ultimately lead to failure. The electorate would then take their wrath out on the Republican majority, turning it to a minority, and then with Romney you’d never know what might happen with his willingness to reach across the aisle for the sake of compromise. We would probably get ObamaCare switched to some slightly different version of RomneyCare, along with some good ole Gun Control for good measure and who knows what else.

Another serious issue is Romney’s mormanism; any man that is misled by the likes of Joseph Smith is going to be easily deceived by those within and outside the United States that wish to do us harm. But his religious affiliation might change because if he ever concludes that being a LDS member could possibly keep him from the Whitehouse, he will immediately convert to an Episcopalian.

WJ| 8.30.11 @ 8:51AM

Romney might change his mind like Gardisil Rick did when he wanted all teen age girls in Texas injected with an un-proven anti -STD drug. The legislature said no and Gardisil Rick though better of it. That outraged his masters at Merck though.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 9:08AM

Maybe Obama will bring down the national debt by repealing the corrupt and hated Obamacare. Maybe RINO Ron Paul will rethink being an apologist for crazy Muslim dictators and mullahs. Maybe Mitt Romney will acknowledge Romneycare was a mistake. Maybe RINO Ron Paul will apologize for blaming US policies for 9/11. Maybe Barack Obama will admit he and soul mate Eric Holder made a bad mistake arming Mexican narco-terrorists. Maybe RINO Ron Paul will apologize for taking funds from Russian TV and thus becoming a paid agent of a foreign power. Maybe Mitt Romney will admit he shouldn’t have supported abortion on demand just to be Governor of a small New England state.

The US has no religious test for public office and that’s a good thing. Romney’s religion is not an issue and it shouldn’t be.

Ryan| 8.30.11 @ 9:11AM

It's an issue not because of the beliefs, but because of the historical issues inherent. Mormonism is simply ahistorical, with no real proof to back up its claims, something completely different from orthodox (small "o") Christianity.

Dave Williams| 8.30.11 @ 12:43PM

Sorry, I can't let THAT stand. Can anyone over the age of 3 really believe that woman came from man's rib, that a talking snake caused them to get booted from paradise, and that 2 (or 7, depending on the text you read) of EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL could fit on a single boat? And that's just for starters...

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 2:08PM

"But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." Mt. 19:26.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:19PM

Everyone not voting for this or that Republican due to their shades of RINOISM only secures the re-election of Obama and Democrats, and therefore the final hand grenade of destruction of this country within the next four years. Your acting STUPIDLY by doing thus will finalize what you initiated on 11/4/08!!!!!!!!!

JohnC| 8.30.11 @ 9:03AM

Unbelievable! The naïve Republican is being snookered again by the so-called conservative media that is now presenting Perry as a conservative. Both Perry and Romney are RINO twins and globalists to boot -- shades of GWB.

Alas, El-Rushbo said globalist Rick is his dream candidate even though Perry has advocated mostly liberal positions on a host of issues.

Everybody needs to read Phyllis Shadfly’s WND article today about China. She reports that China has 3000 imported workers rebuilding the San Francisco bridge yet no GOP presidential hopeful (except Trump) or talk radio pundit talks about the many sweetheart, China job-killer deals.

Once again true conservatives have no real choice – the GOP is RINO-land.

Ryan| 8.30.11 @ 9:12AM

This is about the way I feel. Perry is a slightly more conservative version of GWB, but he's still an establishment candidate masquerading as a man of the people.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:38AM

So, who would the two of you choose if not confined to the declared candidates? Obviously none of them meet your lofty standards, so who?

Ryan| 8.31.11 @ 8:18AM

Perry is actually my default candidate at this point. I'm just saying he's still establishment.

irish19| 8.31.11 @ 3:01PM

Okay, but who would be your ideal candidate?

Sean| 8.30.11 @ 1:19PM

Perry is probably more liberal than Bush.

http://www.chron.com/news/hous.....914428.php

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 1:56PM

Sean, I already know who you want.
I'm still looking for an answer from Ryan and John C.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:15PM

Neither one was liberal, compared to each/every DEMOCRAT!!!!!!

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 3:03PM

And Ron Paul IS Obama.
Isn't he?
Just how is he different?
What are the things he wants that Obama doesn't?
Legalize dope.
Anti Military.
Anti Israel.
Pro porkfat.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:29PM

Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Advisor Michael Scheuer,Former CIA Chief of The bin Laden Unit.

"On Iran,The President Should:

4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 4:50PM

You just proved my point, dummy.
Michael Scheuer shares the snake's views:

"In the long run, we're not safer because we're still operating on the assumption that we're hated because of our freedoms, when in fact we're hated because of our actions in the Islamic world. There's our military presence in Islamic countries, the perception that we control the Muslim world's oil production, our support for Israel and for countries that oppress Muslims.."

'Nuff said.

Sean| 8.30.11 @ 6:08PM

Ron Paul is not antimilitary in fact he served in the military and voted to go into Afghanistan. He is though opposed to nation building there. He is not anti Israel he is just against welfare for foreign countries. Dope was legal for the majority of US history and we did just fine. Ron Paul doesn't vote for unbalanced budgets.

Margie is still an anti Catholic bigot.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 8:55PM

A bigot is a derogatory name used to describe Bible believing Christians who reject the false teachings of Catholicism.

Just as you Ron Paul idolators use the word Neo-con as a derogatory word against conservatives who reject his politics and stances.

The truth is, Sean is an anti-christ who despises Christians and Jews alike.

Now, Clint has a hole waiting for you to crawl back into~ along with the other TRUE haters here.

Or~ you COULD repent. If God sees fit to grant it to you.

Sean| 8.30.11 @ 9:19PM

Like I said Margie is an anti Catholic bigot. Being a Christian myself I find it hard to believe that I am an antichrist.

Margie| 8.31.11 @ 1:05AM

Christians aren't liars, and they don't despise Jews and Bible believing Christians, so according to the Words of God~ you aren't a Christian.

In fact, He promises to throw you into Hell for it.
I hope you repent, because whatever your Religion is, is can't save you.

"But outside are the dogs and the sorcerers,
and the fornicators, and the murderers,
and the idolaters, and every one loving
a lie, and making a lie.
I, Jesus, sent My angel to testify these
things to you over the assemblies. I am the
Root and the Offspring of David, the bright
and Morning Star." Rev. 22:15 & 16.

Boar Hunter| 8.31.11 @ 2:02AM

Liar's and lovers of lies.

kate| 9.1.11 @ 12:39AM

Clint
Let me translate.
You are a jerk and we are going to ignore you.
(unless you repent)
google it.

Clinton| 8.30.11 @ 9:27AM

Ron Paul blames America for 9/11.

WINTERSET, Ia. – Two weeks away from the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, presidential candidate and Texas Rep. Ron Paul says that U.S. intervention in the Middle East is a main motivation behind terrorist hostilities toward America, and that Islam is not a threat to the nation.

At a campaign stop on Saturday in Winterset, one man asked Paul how terrorist groups would react if the U.S. removed its military presence in Middle Eastern nations, a move the candidate advocates.

“Which enemy are you worried that will attack our national security?” Paul asked.

“If you’re looking for specifics, I’m talking about Islam. Radical Islam,” the man answered.

“I don’t see Islam as our enemy,” Paul said. “I see that motivation is occupation and those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land, the support of their dictators that they hate.”

Regarding 9/11, Paul said that attacks against the U.S. from Middle Eastern groups at home and abroad can be traced to the foreign presence of U.S. troops, as well as America’s relationships with dictator regimes.

Paul referred to a military base in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, as a key motivator in the Sept. 11th attacks. Osama bin Laden viewed it as an American desecration of holy land.

“After 9/11, (people said) ‘Oh yeah, it’s those very bad people who hate us,’ but 15 of (the hijackers) came from Saudi Arabia,” said Paul. “One of the reasons they attacked us, is we propped up this Sharia government and the fundamentalists hated us for it.”

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:13PM

I agree only partially with Paul, in that these religious/Muslim fanatics will not stop attacking non-Muslims if the intervention element was removed. Theirs is a holy war against all non-believers of that radical religion. Each/every Muslim mosque is a hotbed of their religious indoctrination, you can bank on that; and every one inside this country should be investigated and shut down if necessary!!!!!!!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:12PM

Asked & Answered.

"Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World â€“ because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”

Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:31PM

"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan

Claire Solt PhD| 8.30.11 @ 9:30AM

Job creation is a relative, not absolute measure. For example, Clinton put so much emphasis on it that the unemployment rate went to 2% where I was hiring. That may sound wonderful, but it meant I could not find a secretary to save my life and most applicants were felons. Job creation was not, therefore, even an issue in the 2000 election or Bush admin, mostly because so many jobs were created io the 90's. That said, the elitists in Democratic [pundrity object that Texas jobs are 40% low paying. Duh, dopes, that is who is employed, the unskilled dropouts and grads of those nasty inner city schoools democrats run. Dems are not for the little guy, anymore, if they ever were.

Clinton| 8.30.11 @ 9:59AM

Texas has done what most of other states -- notably the blue coastal ones -- have failed to do: create jobs. Over the past decade Texas has created 2.1 million jobs -- while New York, California, Massachusetts and Obama’s Illinois have all lost jobs.

Its relative performance since 2009 has been even more stellar, producing nearly 40% of all new jobs in the U.S. Its unemployment rate stands at 8.2, well below the national average of 9.1 -- an outstanding feat given the fact that the state grew 20%, twice the national average, over the decade. Texas is creating jobs for a growing workforce, while other states like New York or Massachusetts struggle to keep up with stagnant or even declining ones.

According to research conducted by the Praxis Strategy group, Texas has boosted mid-skill jobs -- those that require two years or more of post-secondary education -- by 16% in the past decade, That's the third-highest rate in the nation (after much smaller Wyoming and Utah) and three times the national average. In contrast, New York has grown such positions by less than 5%, while California and Massachusetts have expanded them by less than 2%. Illinois, President Barack Obama's home turf, was among the few states to actually lose mid-skill jobs.

This pattern also applies to the high-tech and science-based industries. Over the past decade Texas' number of STEM (science, technology, engineering and math-related) jobs has surged by 11%, one of the fastest rates among the states and four times the national average. California, Massachusetts and Illinois all lost positions in these fields.

Another reason people go to Texas is their wages get them more there than in the big blue metros. For example, houses in Dallas, Austin or Houston cost three times the median income in these areas -- or less. That ratio is twice as high, or higher, in places like New York, San Francisco or Los Angeles.

To be sure, Texas has benefited from higher energy prices, as Perry's detractors point out. According to an analysis by the EMSI economic forecasting group, the energy sector jumped from over 230,000 jobs in 2001 to just under 490,000 in 2011. That's roughly 10% of all the state's overall job gains. This parallels job growth in other states that have experienced surges in energy-related employment -- such as North Dakota and Wyoming.

But some of this has to do with making your own "luck." Energy-rich California has all but declared war on its fossil fuel industry, once one of the nation's most important. Instead, the state has placed lavish bets on renewable fuel and the much ballyhooed notion that "green jobs" could provide a massive base for new employment -- something even the green-friendly New York Times has called "a pipe dream." In fact, employment in this field has actually started to tick down, and the prospect of ever higher energy prices associated with "clean" fuels could prove another nail in California's economic coffin.

While detractors will do their best to say Texas has not benefited under the leadership of Rick Perry and even imply a Democrat like Bill White, who Perry crushed in their gubernatorial matchup, would be just as effective or more effective is laughable. Where Democrats govern the states are in crisis and decline. Where Republicans govern the states are generally booming or at least doing better than their Democrat counterparts. Leadership can be heavy handed and self-aggrandizing like Obama and other Democrats or light and supportive of growth and success like Perry. The proof that the Perry model works is self-evident in the reality of Texas’ success.

Don’t Mess w/ Texas or you’ll get treated ugly.

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 10:07AM

Good post. I may have to borrow it in the future when refuting liberals, liberalterians and other naysayers.

MacDaddy| 8.30.11 @ 9:38AM

I really don't care WHO the Republican nominee is as long as he's elected.....the ideas we need for reform will come from a conservative-led Congress and Senate......we could elect Bob the builder as far as I care, knowing he will sign what Capitol hill sends him to sign....Balanced budget amendment, repeal of obama care, elimination of Energy and education departments, tax reform, etc. the key for ALL you republican and conservative azzhats out here to realize is that we need each other and need to work together to defeat O-trauma and the liberal agenda...and this might be our last ups. So stuff a sock in it with all the Perry hate and Romney rebukes....whoever wins a civilized debate and primary season MUST enjoy the complete support of the right...even if you have differences with Him. Where else are you gonna go? So if you kids don't stop bickerin', i'm gonna pull this car over and give you BOTH something to cry about.....Oh...sorry, started channeling my dad there for a minute. But the point remains.....we must all hang together on this, or Obama will hang the economy permanently....

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 12:42PM

The solution is not limited to electing a (conservative) Republican. That's only the beginning. Whatever his end-game may be, Obama is destroying America. While using the federal government to stifle and kill the business model and profitability of every viable industry in America, Obama tout's the merit of "investing" more of our money in "shovel ready jobs," fictitious "green jobs" or a new department of job creation.

If his department of jobs fails, Obama will establish a new oversight agency, staffed by well trained attorneys, who will investigate why, after spending 20 million dollars, the department of job creation only created 10 new jobs. If these idiots spent every dollar possessed by every America outside those in the flea and locust class to fund their ever increasing departments of redundant lunacy, they would lament how the greed of the wealthy stifled their nobel efforts.

Our problem is that we have been so preoccupied with the problem of Obama, the real problem has gone unaddressed. In addition to a population sufficient enough both in numbers and stupidity to place Obama in office, imagine how many global warming tree humpers and other liberal true believers the liberals have hired to fill non-elected and thereby "protected" civil servant positions over the last several years.

The real battle will begin after we elect a candidate with real conservative values. Their political will to cut funding and staffing for nannie state entitlement programs must be vigorously supported, because we all know what kind of apoplectic fit the liberals in the media and both sides of the political aisle are going to have. We cannot therefore, afford another RINO, anywhere, in political office. As evidenced by the increase in "racist," "terrorist," "religious fanatic" name calling, liberals know Obama is a one term president. If we let liberals from either political party dictate who is electable because of their appeal to, "moderates and independents," then our demise is imminent and we have only ourselves to blame.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:09PM

Absolutely correct!!!!!!

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 2:55PM

Wow. Great post, Boar Hunter.
Especially the "global warming tree humpers and other liberal true believers.."

Most importantly though, as you said, whether it's the Libs in the media or in the Democrat party spouting off about our candidates (oh, wait. they're actually one and the same anyway!)~ we need to be like Ronald Reagan: Ignore them!!

Jeamar37| 8.30.11 @ 9:40AM

Reluctantly I repeat myself: Romney's Mormonism will eventually be his big problem. People in the SW have no idea how anti-Mormon some Evangelicals are and even some mainstream denominations have pastors still teaching Mormonism is a cult. Most people from the East and a great many from the Midwest have never known a Mormon but have heard many scurrilous
rumors about them. The Republic nomination is still in flux but unless the GOP is very careful Obamanation will win again. He has an established percentage of people who will automatically vote for him regardless of his abysmal performance in office.

VBMax| 8.30.11 @ 11:55AM

So Mormonism is worse than BlackMuslimJeremiahWrightism?

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 2:23PM

It is indeed a cult and it is right for Christians to say so, but that shouldn't stop people from voting for him IF he becomes the nominee.

I get your point though. Many will hold to their silly fears instead and will either not vote, or write in a name on the ballot.

If they would just look at the reality that is Obama the destroyer, their better sense should prevail, and they ought to see a vote for the Republican nominee is a much better choice than allowing their precious vote to go to another four years of an unrepentant Socialist.

Romney doesn't belong to the murderous cult of Islam, after all. And I doubt he would try and legalize bigamy since the cult he belongs to has now repented of that doctrine. At least that's what I've read if I remember correctly.

Say, what's better~ a President who is for "Gay Marriage" and every other form of immorality~ including stealing from the taxpayers, destroying our free market enterprise, and abortion?

Or Romney, dumb beliefs and all?

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 2:27PM

And that was NOT an endorsement for the man. I was speaking to the poster's point.

I am for any of the other candidates (other than Ron Paul least of all), and Romney is my second to last worst choice.

I love Hermain Cain. But right now Rick Perry seems to be the strongest, and I suspect he'll win the nomination.
God's will be done.

Jeamar37| 8.30.11 @ 4:47PM

Margie I totally agree with you on this post.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 4:53PM

Thank you for saying so, and I'm glad you agree, Jeamar37.

Von Mises Jr.| 8.30.11 @ 9:45AM

Romney, like Huntsman whom received no traction, is an establishment, big government politician.
Perry is a more electable libertarian, free market capitalist candidate that has risen on the same tide as Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann. They are anti-establishment, small government advocates. And they have the courage to state it clearly in the face of the MSM socialist establishment.
This is why Perry is rising, and Romney lasted only until a small government, electable candidate made his appearance. Only those that refuse to accept that the average voter is no more impressed with the RINO's than with the liberal progressives (better labeled as socialist) are Romney "bitter clingers."

Casey Abell| 8.30.11 @ 10:09AM

"Only a candidate with the support of rank-and-file Republicans, including Tea Partiers, and a clear record of success on jobs and health care will be able to survive and overcome this strategy."

Both Perry and Romney have the GOP vote locked. Every poll shows Obama getting next-to-zilch from Repub voters against either guy. Mitt and Rick would both have the support of "rank-and-file Republicans" against Barry.

So Catron's article comes down to an ideological broadside on two issues: health care and job creation. The second is far, far more important to the indies who will decide the election. Will Perry's job-creation record in Texas impress them?

Maybe and maybe not. The question is whether Perry accumulates enough baggage to discourage indies from voting for him. The GOP debates should tell a lot on whether Perry has enough appeal to the center to beat Obama. Right now he matches up pretty well against Barry among indies. But he hasn't been tested in any debates against the other challengers.

If this sounds noncommital to you, you're right. I've voted for Perry in all his statewide races in Texas, and I've generally been happy with the job he's done. But I'm not sure how he'll come across in less-than-blood-red states. That's why I'll be watching the GOP debates closely.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:42AM

This is the kind of thing we need to hear from the kind of people who know-Texans who know Perry.

kate| 9.1.11 @ 12:56AM

I am hopeful.

kate| 9.1.11 @ 1:04AM

I hope that Perry rips the left without being a hotdog..
Imagine truthfulness (brutal) without silliness or ego.
No PC.
Plain speaking is what I yearn for.
There is plenty to say and do.
In the end character and passion will be what we are looking for.
If Perry has emotional or selfish interests, then I shall abandon him.
I wish someone would stand and represent the American people.

talkradio55| 8.30.11 @ 10:09AM

The field for 2012 is far superior than we had for 2008. The "most conservative" candidate of 2008 is now the second most liberal. We do not have to settle for Romney or Perry just because the pundits tell us this. We have real choices this time around and we need to exercise them. Perry is far superior to Romney on jobs and healthcare, and whatever he believed as a Democrat was not changed for the purposes of running for president.

This election will come down to jobs, but we also have to make it about the proper role for the federal government. The 10th Amendment has to be a part of the debate and the moral arguments for federalism must be made by whoever is nominated. The nominee must have a list of agencies that need to be eliminated. Only then, can America be the "shining city on a hill."

davelnaf| 8.30.11 @ 10:20AM

Most Republicans prefer Perry because they instinctively understand that he can beat Obama hands down. They also see him as being capable of restoring some dignity to the office in the same way that Reagan did after the Carter years. And they are at best diffident about Romney’s chances of doing the same. In particular it still stings them to recall how McCain pretty much bulldozed his way pass a lackluster Romney in the primaries.

POTUS will have some advantages next year, but nothing similar to what he had back in ’08. Voters just want to deprive him of another Republican self-inflicted wound.

realist431| 8.30.11 @ 10:38AM

Romney will have the same issue that McCain in going after Obama. McCain couldn't attack Obama's possition on many of the issues because McCain had supported those issues in the past. This will be Romney's problem too. He can't attack Obamacare because of Romneycare. He can't attack Obama on jobs because of his poor performance as governer of Mass.

Dick Nome| 8.30.11 @ 10:47AM

McQueeg was a "Moderate" who would not go after Obama. He ran an inept but "respectable" campaign to attract the 'moderates' and the "independents" (whoever they are supposed to be). He was the only one who could beat Hillary. WOrked out great didn't it. He was an establishmnet weenie. No more RINO establisnhment weenies this next time.

paul wright| 8.30.11 @ 10:47AM

Look folks, I will be voting for Perry if Palin doesn't get in but the sad fact is I will vote for any republican who gets the nomination because ANY republican will be better than the alternative of 4 more years of the most pathetic president we have ever had. 4 more years of barry will kill this country.....we have to get him out of the white house at all costs 2012

Michael Tomlinson| 8.30.11 @ 11:29AM

Paul:
I agree I'll being voting for any real Republican before standing by and doing nothing. I want vote for the RINO Paul, because he's really no better than Obama (addicted to big spending despite his words and a foreign policy MoveOn.org and George Soros would love).

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:07PM

I agree MT, but please, ANYONE is better than Obama [even Paul]!!!!!

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 2:34PM

Hi Oldefarte,

I suppose I will have to pull the lever for RP if he ever became the nominee, but I know he cannot.

IF he did, all of the reasons why I ever had to pull the lever for the Republican nominee would come into question for the first time~ namely, that there would be a Republican administration.

Knowing the types of people that RPaul would have in his admin. would turn my stomach~ and he probably wouldn't have an issue with choosing Democrats like Dennis Kucinich for posts like secretary of Defense. (He votes along with Kucinch concerning defunding the military).

Ugh. Imagine it!!

Mick Hawk| 8.30.11 @ 10:49AM

Wow , the Rube Paul kooks are out in force again. They have to attack all the opposition till their icon is the only one left. You Paulbots are Crackpots, all of them.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 11:01AM

Ron Paul has been right on the issues for decades and predicted all that we are going through. He is setting the agenda for the whole debate. They are all trying to sound at least a little like him Yet all you can come up with is a bunch of name calling and nonsense. I don't think it is going to work this time. The countries problems are too great for dimwits like Perry, Romney or Bachman, who are just tools in the hands of their handlers.

Gateway Pundit| 8.30.11 @ 11:17AM

This makes me sick. Ron Paul again blames the US for the 9-11 Al-Qaeda massacre.

The Des Moines Register reported, via Free Republic:

Two weeks away from the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, presidential candidate and Texas Rep. Ron Paul says that U.S. intervention in the Middle East is a main motivation behind terrorist hostilities toward America, and that Islam is not a threat to the nation.

At a campaign stop on Saturday in Winterset, one man asked Paul how terrorist groups would react if the U.S. removed its military presence in Middle Eastern nations, a move the candidate advocates.

“Which enemy are you worried that will attack our national security?” Paul asked.

“If you’re looking for specifics, I’m talking about Islam. Radical Islam,” the man answered.

“I don’t see Islam as our enemy,” Paul said. “I see that motivation is occupation and those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land, the support of their dictators that they hate.”

Regarding 9/11, Paul said that attacks against the U.S. from Middle Eastern groups at home and abroad can be traced to the foreign presence of U.S. troops, as well as America’s relationships with dictator regimes.

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:22PM

Asked & Answered.

"Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World â€“ because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”

Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."

The Israel Firsters Are Afraid Of The Tea Party.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 12:53PM

It's not "going to work this time"...really? It worked last time and the time before that, cause Ron Paul is a nut. I liked some of his "stated" policies when I learned about him years and years ago. Oh!, but then I found out he was an unelectable nut and I quit supporting him.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:02PM

Well said, BH and true!!!!

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:05PM

Dimwits? What about those labor union radical morons in your state who are trying to oust Your governor and other Republicans for saving the taxpayers money? Are they 'dimwits' [or maybe CHEESEHEADS] as well???????

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 2:37PM

Jack,

You are delusional. No one is trying to imitate your idol.

Jack in Wi.| 8.30.11 @ 5:21PM

Dimwit Perry and is yelling about the Fed and making a fool out of himself. He knows nothing of the problems of this country. They are all yelling and say how they will follow the Constitution in everything. They all talk about a lower debt. The polls all show huge support for Ron Paul,'s ideas. 75% of people want the Fed audited. 60% want all the troops home in a year or less. 75% want all foreign aid stopped to everyone icluding Israel. Even Chris Wallace said that Ron Paul was setting the agenda. Everyone knows it but you Margie. Ron Paul is and has been right for decades period. He is the most intelligent and honest man to run for President in my lifetime.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 6:05PM

"Everyone knows it but you, Margie."

Hmm, where have I heard that before? LOL.

I guess you haven't been reading the posts here. No one buys what you are saying about Ron Paul.

The reason the candidates are speaking about the Constitution is because they're conservatives, not because Ron Paul pretends to be one.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 6:06PM

p.s. Ron Paul is the media's fave.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 6:43PM

I'm sure Ron Paul will continue to be right on many subjects, but he will never hear anyone say, "That's correct Mr. President."

miken| 8.30.11 @ 11:03AM

Either way, Romney should just keep spending his money on ads attacking the President. Especially in early primary states Iowa New Hampshire Florida Nevada Michigan Wisconsin Minnesota Ohio Missouri Colorado Virginia.

Simon Templar| 8.30.11 @ 11:40AM

Peggy Noonan? Oh, you mean, the genius that wrote the article, "Party of One" in The WSJ? You mean that Peggy? I do not have enough explicatives to describe this fraud. It really is an enigma to me how this thing ever got to where it did get and why anyone on this earth listens to anything it says.

VBMax| 8.30.11 @ 12:36PM

One thing that both Romney and Perry have in common which the Usurper doesn't have....they are Americans.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 12:54PM

Amen to that!

Don| 8.30.11 @ 1:53PM

Perry/rubio. Goodbye mitt...goodbye barack/biden

Mike Hawk| 8.30.11 @ 4:49PM

No to Marco Rubio. Historically and as a norm, Veeps and Senators do not get elected President (only in exceptional cases). VP is the end of the line of a political career. I would not sacrifice Rubio for political expediency. We need him as Senate Majority Leader more than anything else. Don't kill him politically by parking him in the Veep slot.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 8:34PM

Interesting take on the subject. Assuming you are correct about it being the end of the line, then you are right in that Rubio should stay right where he is for now.
John Bolton, on the other hand.........

PJ| 8.30.11 @ 2:01PM

I think Perry has a better chance at beating Obama than Mitt. Neither 1 of them is my perfect candidate, but then again there isn't 1 out there as of now.

If I had to give advice to Rick Perry, I would tell him to tone down his jokesy-homesy rhetoric. That bit about his wife's ironing & secession wisecracks may play well in Texas but not in the rest of America esp in NE & the Mid-Atlantic states. He still needs some parts of those specific regions to win.

I personally was a little shocked at both comments but quickly recovered because I knew it was said in jest to make a point. I personally looked further into it. How many average Americans would?

Butch| 8.30.11 @ 4:20PM

Well, you're sure not P. J. O'Rourke, are you? Really? Shocked? Even just a little? If those northeasterners are as you describe, then just write them off, anyway. Sounds like they will vote for whomever the Ivy League serves up. We've done so well with that over the past 50 years, haven't we?

PJ| 8.30.11 @ 5:46PM

Yes, I was a little shocked that he would make fun of his wife in front of strangers! Maybe Texans understood what he said immediately. But I didn't & had to look further into it.

There are plenty of conservatives & moderates in the Mid-Atlantic & NE States. Perry can win quite a few over if he toned down, not eliminate, his 1 liners w/out changing his persona or MO.

This is a presidential campaign. He obviously has the credentials to be president. He has to now sound like one. This is not just for Texas but for the rest of the country.

So stop being parochial & show a little bit of intelligence, Butchy.

Butch| 8.30.11 @ 7:45PM

If he can't win over a conservative, then they're not conservatives, are they? I am an "unintelligent" college professor in a demanding discipline, PJ. I was making a little light fun of your parochialism, but I don't want to make an enemy of you--it sounds like we're on the same side. We're not as PC in the rest of the country as you folks in the northeast and west coast.

I haven't been called "Butchie" (you misspelled it) since Mom died. Thanks.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 2:01PM

Excellent article and true! A prime argument for Perry is [as stated] Texas' legislating of tort reform. Many of the previously physicians abondoning the state due to excessive medical malpractice litigation awards have now returned, and the state's health insurance etc premiums have been reduced accordingly. Perry's staff need to emphasize same as a rebuttal to Romney's enactment of Massachusetts' health care mandated coverage!!!!!

David| 8.30.11 @ 2:29PM

Hey Dave Williams, if people believe that God created the universe and our wonderful bodies, it is not so hard to believe that He made a donkey talk, or that a big fish swallowed Jonah, or that a snake convinced Eve to eat the apple. And if you actually read the dimensions that God gave to Noah to build the ark, you will know that it is ordinary boat. On top of that, my understanding is that people have built scale models of it and it is impossible to tip.

Glenn Koonse | 8.30.11 @ 2:45PM

I think Perry can also bring a respect for , by,from the VETS here in America as well as the use for our Military (not as meals on wheels-but protectors). Then there are jobs. Then there is a rejection of CARE PC baloney. Then there too is that if SCOTUS appointments come up, Perry surely will appoint a Center-Right jurist. Bama or any Dem , will not. And frankly, I am not sure Romney would appoint , say a Justice Thomas or Scalia. Which we need more of! Then there is tort reform. Also, some border solutions that no one seems to prompt.

Sirbourbon| 8.30.11 @ 2:53PM

“If Karl Rove hadn’t been my consultant, I would not have been agriculture commissioner today,” Perry told the Dallas Morning News in 1994, adding: “My brain is like a chicken pot pie. His is like a refrigerator that is all very organized — pickles here, salad there.” 

If you want an all consumming politician in the form of a Obama, Clinton or Bush then Perry is your person. If however you are looking for a man who has a thorough understanding of constitutional principles and has actually read John Locke's Second Treatise on Government, forget "Governor good hair."

Governor good hair is a virtual clone of Bush and will embrace the the neo-con gospel like he has glummed onto Kissinger's book on Red China which is to follow the yellow brick road to more foreign intervention until the day America is up for sale due to a polci of war and welfare.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 3:01PM

"The neo-con gospel."
LOL. Let me guess. You're for Ron Paul.

Oldefarte| 8.30.11 @ 4:16PM

[Shazam, Ron Paul is really doing well, huh?]:

'.....New CNN Poll Puts Perry Far Ahead of Romney Monday, August 29, 2011 04:45 PMBy: Newsmax Wires....Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry continues to show strength in polls. A CNN/ORC International survey released today indicates that the Texas governor has a strong lead over Mitt Romney among Republicans and independents who lean Republican – 27 percent to 14 percent.Polls last week from Gallup and Public Policy Polling also put Perry in the lead, throwing the front-runner position in play between ex-Massachusetts Gov. Romney and Perry.Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who hasn’t entered the race, placed third in the CNN/ORC poll with 10 percent. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also hasn’t entered the race, were tied for fourth with 9 percent. And former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas tied for sixth at 6 percent.....'

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 4:20PM

Perry's Apologist Stooge Flunkies Are Afraid Of The Tea Party.

"They're particularly skeptical about Perry's record on immigration, an issue that resonates with the Granite State's tea party movement.

As governor, Perry signed a law making Texas the first state to offer in-state tuition to illegal immigrants, and he blasted a proposed border fence as "idiocy." Texas tea party groups sent Perry an open letter this year expressing disappointment over his failure to get a bill passed that would have outlawed "sanctuary cities," municipalities that protect illegal immigrants.

Texas governors, including Perry and his predecessor, George W. Bush, walk a fine line when it comes to immigration. The state's powerful business lobby, which is reliably Republican, back many immigration rights laws and the state population is more than one-third Hispanic. Landowners along the Texas-Mexico border had complained about the border fence interfering with ranching.

Perry also said that Arizona's controversial immigration law "would not be the right direction for Texas," although he would later support a friend-of-the-court brief defending Arizona's right to pass its own laws in accordance with the 10th Amendment.

"That's a pretty big knock against him," said Jerry DeLemus, chairman of the Granite State Patriots Liberty PAC, when notified of some of Perry's immigration policies."

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 4:55PM

"Perry's Apologist Stooge Flunkies"

You remind me of something out of an old Jimmy Cagney movie.

And to that, I say, "We ain't afraid of nobody~ least of all little pipsqueaks like yourself, bubs."

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:14PM

Ron Paul Polling In Third Place
AUGUST 29th,2011:

Much of the media and pundit-class have already pronounced the Republican primary a troika: Rick Perry, Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann. That assumption may merit revision. According to a new Gallup survey, Texas libertarian Rep. Ron Paul has risen to third place among GOP primary voters, pushing aside Bachmann. Perry has taken the lead since his recent campaign announcement at 29%, dislodging heretofore front runner Mitt Romney to second place at 17%, followed by Paul at 13%. Bachmann scored 10% and the rest of the field registered in single digits"

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 8:37PM

Where are you getting this stuff?

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 11:30PM

Duuuuuhhhhh !

Gallup.

Jesus Christ, You Gotta Be A Moron.

irish19| 8.30.11 @ 11:42PM

Why would I know that since you didn't deign to provide a link or citation?

Oldefarte| 8.31.11 @ 3:57PM

What this Gallup poll also indicates is that a large majority of Paul's support is coming from the age group 18-29 year-olds. What that tells you is that many of his supporters are the SNOT-NOSED TWERPS THAT ALSO FAVOR OBAMA. No doubt, the SNOT-NOSERS of the Democratic variety support Obama, whereas those of the Republican variety support Paul. Once again that old philosopher Gump once declared, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES, and obviously he was referring to Obama's and Paul's supporters!!!!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 5:17PM

Margie Reminds Me Of A Joisey White Trash Bigot, Bastardizing Religion.

Oh !
That's Right, Margie Is & Does.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 6:11PM

Religion is a bastard, Clint.
It spawns people who think like you.
God isn't Religion, in fact He hates it.
If you read the Bible instead of believing what the Papists tell you, you'd know that.

"Jesus said to him, "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father, but by Me." Jn. 14:6.

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 7:11PM

Margie, your compassion and patience is endearing. You my friend are a fine herder of sheep, but Clint's mind is harder than the head of a ram and the path you would lead him to is narrow and hard to find.

Like you, I have accepted and have faith in what many cannot and never will. It should sadden me that the majority of people will never see heaven, but as I get older I find myself feeling more like Noah with his, but I don't want to save them attitude. Maybe God will change my heart or mind someday, but I still struggle with the love your enemy thing.

Perhaps a verse to help?

Boar Hunter| 8.30.11 @ 7:15PM

PS: The only one that pops into my mind pertains to much weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Margie| 8.30.11 @ 8:40PM

Boar Hunter,

How about this:

"But you, beloved, build yourselves up on your most holy faith; pray in the Holy Spirit; keep yourselves in the love of God; wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
And convince some, who doubt; save some, by snatching them out of the fire; on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Now to Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you without blemish before the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and for ever. Amen." Jude 1:20-25.

There's an exhortation, warning, & encouragement, all in one.
If you do the first four things in those verses, you'll be able to do the rest, by the Grace of God.
And notice just who the Saviour is, Jesus.
Not Religion, but the Man, Christ Jesus.

Did I help you?

Boar Hunter| 8.31.11 @ 2:06AM

I strangely do not believe I have ever read that before and I considered myself somewhat knowledgable on the subject. Good one Margie!

Margie| 8.31.11 @ 1:52PM

My brother Boar Hunter,

Well then, now you have just discovered what is most likely the gist of your problem! Get into reading His Words every day.

Your "problem" most likely isn't a problem~ it's Satan trying to talk you into a lie. It sounds to me like the accuser of the brethren is trying to convince you that you're hard-hearted. Remember what he does is not uncommon. Once, when I was much younger in Christ, I bought that same deception, and near gave up inside, believing there was no hope for me. Then I prayed and asked God to do whatever it took to change me. Soon after, I had a serious accident at my job, and both of my thumbs were crushed. (They're ok, just can't bend them all the way anymore).

When that happened, God woke me up to the reality that I had believed a lie from Satan himself, and almost chose to fall away from Jesus. When I was in the emergency room, I was in excruciating pain. My boss was with me and the room was full, yet I quietly bowed my head in prayer. I asked Jesus to please take away the pain. (I had to wait quite awhile). I began thanking Him for the opportunity to fellowship with Him in His suffering.. though in such a minute way, and He filled me with such joy, and He did take away the pain. At one point I looked up and my boss quickly told me to "please~keep doing what you're doing!" Meaning, pray.

He saw that "it was working." When they called my name I lifted up my head and I felt my face beam with joy. The doctors couldn't understand! I spent many days afterwards in a lot of pain and in a lot of prayer, and have never since then experienced such a closeness with Jesus Himself.

I now know that to believe that there is no hope, not only for me, but for anyone who will decide to trust in Him is a lie from Satan himself.

I know from personal experience, not only from that time, but when I first gave my like to Him, and the same joy He filled me with~ that all His promises really ARE true.

Boar Hunter~ do not fall prey to a lie from Satan himself that you are hard hearted or that you do not care for the lost. If you have Christ in you~ then you care, my brother.
You just need to let His Words fill your heart again.

Did you know that the Word of God has the power to change you? Remember that His Words are living and active.

And to wrap it all up, this is exactly what I mean by how Religion (the outward behaviors of a belief system) can't save us.

It is Jesus Christ Himself!

Margie| 8.31.11 @ 1:56PM

p.s.

Jesus says:

"It is the Spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the Words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." Jn. 6:63.

kate| 9.1.11 @ 1:10AM

Good Lord.
I love Jesus too.
New here, but this is a political conversation. Are you a troll too? No offense.

Margie| 9.1.11 @ 2:43PM

Hi kate,
Well, you are right. I did it it knowingly though, only because I thought it might help someone.. that's all.
And as to your question: No, I'm not a troll, though I'm sure would beg to differ.
But I refuse to concern myself with their thoughts!

Clint| 8.30.11 @ 11:13PM

Aaand You're A Joisey White Trash Bitch, Fronting Your Religion Of Margie To Fron t Your Garbage Bigotry.

Margie| 8.31.11 @ 12:49AM

Quiet down, anti-Christ. You're disturbing the peace.

RCV| 8.31.11 @ 10:19PM

He's just disturbing, period. And disturbed.

Margie| 8.31.11 @ 2:01PM

Clint,

Do you really believe that someone who uses Jesus' Name in vain is truly a Christian?

martin j smith| 8.30.11 @ 5:40PM

The candidate who can withstand the garbage, the maladaptive behavior, the anti-social Socialists lies, the MSM crap and see thru all of the fog that will be placed as a barrier --that candidate who has the best message and most able to debate Obama--that is to take the argument DIRECTLY
to him and be most effective in hammering home the LIES that the LEFT perpetrate. The candidate that people can identify with as a LEADER to get us out of this mess. That will be the deciding factors. And in addition to all that that candidate MUST be extremely activeland vigorous in counterattacking and knowing when to shut up. S/he must know when to let the great Obama hang himself with his own words. But effective advertising will help a lot and that means mullah!!!!!!!!!!!.

PJ| 8.30.11 @ 5:50PM

I wholeheartedly agree. We will know as the primary season matures.

Pull your head out of the sand| 8.30.11 @ 6:07PM

http://spectator.org/archives/.....ommentform

Bring Back America| 8.30.11 @ 6:26PM

Perry needs to be vetted. No Apologies, No Excuses. We don't need 4 more years Obama but that is what we get if Perry is the nominee. Even if the guy wins the general he does not know what to do to Bring Back America. He plays the game to further his career. "Read my lips...NO NEW TEXANS"

kate| 8.31.11 @ 1:43AM

spam..poser..

martin j smith| 8.30.11 @ 7:25PM

One other thing: The candidate I would prefer would call out any Socialists who engage in HATE SPEECH against any opposition such as the Tea Party types or for that matter any one who disagrees with Obama. There is HATE SPEECH SPEWING FROM THE MOUTHS OF SOCIALISTS AND THEY MUST BE CALLED OUT NOW.

martin j smith| 8.30.11 @ 7:27PM

The primary and candidates debates with vett the right candidate --the loser will be self evident.

somnolence| 8.30.11 @ 7:33PM

Rick Perry will receive my support on Nov. 2, 2012, but no sooner. Yawn.

Robbie| 8.30.11 @ 8:54PM

And Rick Perry's mother made (sewed) his underwear even when he was in college. I read that several years ago in Texas Monthly.

AgentRose| 8.30.11 @ 8:57PM

Thank you for this article! Yes you see the reality. There are two major problems first and foremost--Obama and yes, we will vote for anyone but Obama. But the second problem is the "former Bush aides, and sundry other Republican luminaries ". These are people who are 1) too far away from reality to understand and see the people on the ground, like the tea party and 2) continue to manipulate the Republicans and the American people. Noonan--please get over it. Reagan, (unfortunately) is not president. Rove, get over it Bush who you helped to make AND destroyed is not President. This also includes the neocons--Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes--who are, unfortunately, still influential with Boehner and some of the Republicans. We need to get the neocons and the elite beltway out of the Republican primary. Out of the way.

Sheryl| 8.30.11 @ 9:42PM

The Tea Party is losing popularity fast so I don't know how well that will help Perry.
This article also fails to mention that Perry took the dreaded Obama Stimulus Money in 2009.
Plus Texas' has the highest uninsured (and Perry just made huge cuts to Medicaid because of his budget deficit) Obama's going to say because states like Texas I had to enact a federal healthcare law.

wodiej| 8.31.11 @ 7:52AM

Watch the TP Rally in Iowa on Sept. 3rd and see the crowd and then come back and say the TP is losing popularity. Your comment is based on what-your own opinion?

James Thomas| 8.30.11 @ 9:45PM

I have no idea why any conservative pays any attention to Ann Coulter. In January, 2008, she famously declared that she would campaign for Hillary if McCain were the nominee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTqgqhxVMc
She is like Rosie O'Donnell used to be - no talent, but always clamoring for attention.

wodiej| 8.31.11 @ 7:51AM

She is also good friends w sexist, vulgar Bill Maher. 'Nuff said. She's hateful anyway. Probably why she likes him-two peas in a pod.

POST American| 8.30.11 @ 10:21PM

--------------------FINAL WORD------------------------

Beyond Perry's Logan Act violating
Bilderberg attendance, his push of the 'Banker Bailout',
his boosterism for the traitorous NAFTA/GATT,
his backing of the deadly gardasil shots for girls ---and, just weeks ago, his betrayal of the good people of Texas to the manhandling ans sexual
assault by the TSA ------------beyond even all
that-------

we're looking at just more capstone cardboard
with crooked smiles.

----------------------------------------NOT AGAIN!

Nite| 8.30.11 @ 10:27PM

I am from TX and have voted for Perry in several elections and will do so again. Let clear a few things up. He believes in States rights. The Arizona immigration law was not passed by TX state Legislature, so Perry could not do so on his own. He has asked Obama several times to put troops on the border and has been refused. He has been fighting with Obama over the EPA regulations, which would destroy TX energy industry. Now as to the uninsured population in TX, there is a large illegal population and they are unlikely to have health insurance and also do not qualify for Medicaid. Perry did not come from wealth, so better understands the average voter. He is not ignorant or stupid as one poster indicated. He says what he means and means what he says. He is conservative, believes in balancing the budget, strong military, friend of Israel (this is important to me) he actually has a resume and can beat Obama and his teleprompter. He also has never lost an election.

POST American| 8.30.11 @ 11:18PM

----And just weeks ago he sided with the ILLEGAL
federal TSA in the matter of manhandling and
sexual assault of the good people of Texas.

---------ALLL ANYONE NEEDS TO KNOW---------

JimmyT| 8.31.11 @ 12:46AM

There is not a repub candidate vying for the nomination, with the exception of Ron Paul, that cant' beat bambi. I read articles likes this and think, "fill material". Blah--blah--blah

poet laureate| 8.31.11 @ 3:35AM

Two Different Worlds - the Relative Importance of Relatives - -

Though they're both in Massachusetts
They are social miles apart
The culture shock you're feeling
Could almost stop your heart

Three bucks will buy you beer
at the Chicken Bone Saloon
But at the Black Dog Tavern
On the Vineyard
They're singin' a different tune.

Yo' nephew, Barry's living
Pretty high upon the hog,
While your little house
in Framingham
Wouldn't kennel Bo, the dog.

So, poor "lost" Uncle Omar
Don't be callin' on
The President for bail
His Illegal Executive Order will
Soon get you out of jail.

A final word of warning, though
ICE may yet prove to be a "win"
'Cause Michelle is gettin' tired of
Barry's black trash kin.

My apology if there is something racist sounding about "black trash". Whites of a certain class have endured "white trash" for centuries

swan song| 8.31.11 @ 3:53AM

Have fun with "Governor Good Hair". The late Molly Ivins coined it. When she finally found a job she could keep, bad-mouthing the Texas Lege, as she called it, she was pretty funny. The poor soul died of cancer, although it surprised some that she didn't choke to death on her own vitriol. She was Texas' answer to the venomous Maureen Dowd.

It is pathetic how people who dislike a candidate must fall back on the labels dreamed up by someone else. It must be because they have minds like a flatiron, incapable of original humor.

swan song| 8.31.11 @ 5:07AM

Explanation for ROBBIE:
If Rick Perry's mama still made his underwear when he was in college, maybe it was because "store bought" had inadequate ballroom capacity.

wodiej| 8.31.11 @ 7:49AM

No more Texas governors. Have conservatives not learned their lesson from GW? Let's support and elect the only conservative who will soon be announcing her candidacy, Gov. Sarah Palin.

JayDick| 8.31.11 @ 10:25AM

First requirement for Republican nominee: beat Obama. Palin can't.

POST American| 9.1.11 @ 12:47AM

----------------------LAST WORD------------------------

----Capstone cardboard ----with crooked smiles

That's right--

----------------------------CROOKED SMILES!

hardy | 9.1.11 @ 12:05PM

Romney can't match Perry's record, but Governor Gary Johnson can match it. Johnson has the best job-growth rating of all the candidates. Jobs under Johnson weren't government jobs, unlike Perry's jobs. Johnson balanced the budget, cut the state workforce by 10%, and left NM with a billion + surplus.

Perry is much like Bush. We don't need another pro-war candidate from Texas who thinks holding prayer circles is the way to run a government.

Johnson has 25 years of business experience building a 1 man handy man business into one of the largest businesses in NM.

Johnson is the only candidate with a positive favorable home state likability rating.

The establishment might not like Johnson which is why they are keeping him out of the debates but when it comes to beating Obama, then Johnson does much better against Obama than either Perry or Romney.

Earle Belle| 9.1.11 @ 3:04PM

Does the Elite support Rick Perry?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/.....lp-you-out

Rick Perry comes under fire for investment in America's largest pornography distributor:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....z1Vdx310qB

Earle Belle| 9.1.11 @ 3:06PM

Is Rick Perry on the side of the best interests of the American people?:
http://www.augustforecast.com/.....-policies/

Earle Belle| 9.1.11 @ 3:16PM

Secession has been a verboten issue in the United States since the end of the Civil War. Any group who've brought it up have been targeted by press and government as 'militant fringe groups" All of a sudden in 2009, we're seeing it endorsed by career politicians in several states simultaneously, and the media is giving them good press.

Last week, Rick Perry, Texas Governor since George W. Bush's departure in 2000, raised secession of Texas from the Federal Union at a Ron Paul type 'Tea Party" to protest Federal spending and the tax burden on the little guy.

Clearly the Illuminati intend to harness and divert popular discontent to advance their own secret agenda, I.e. The melding of the USA into their world government. Many people think the tea party movement in general exhibits a suspicious amount of organization and media acceptance. (Contrast Fox TV's coverage of this with "9-11 Truth.")

Perry later told the Star-Telegram that he "never specifically said that Texas should consider trying to secede." Technically he's correct. He got cheers telling the Tea Party rabble that the Republic of Texas legislature left a provision in the 1845 agreement to cede with the US Federal government.

But Perry is no populist. In May 2007, Dallas Morning News reported, "Gov. Rick Perry is flying to Istanbul, Turkey, today to speak at the super-secret Bilderberg Conference, a meeting of about 130 international leaders in business, media and politics." All the Governor's press secretary had to say was, "He's looking forward to learning the secret handshake." And, "It's their conference, and I suppose they can run it anyway they want." Perry's expenses were officially paid by the PAC group 'Texans for Rick Perry'.

Although he's never cared what the voters want, Perry intends to run for an unprecedented third term for Governor in 2010.

Perry's gubernatorial resume includes supporting 'Open Borders'; proponent of the $145 billion+ Trans-Texas (NAFTA) Highway to the dismay and anger of central Texas residents who have never been consulted on whether they want or need it. (Thousands of square miles of land has been seized by the State of Texas under eminent domain for this project in Central Texas from the Mexican border just west of San Antonio, Austin, and and Dallas and North Texas.) Perry helped set it up so the project is being built by the Spanish contractor Cinta, and paid for by new toll highways all over the State.

Perry further alienated Texas parents and Legislators by attempting to override a "No" decision on mandatory vaccination of 11-year-old girls with an vaccine for an STD, venereal & warts (the $350 a pop "slut shot.") Perry invoked Executive Order in Feb 2007, but families filed class action suit and many financial connections between Perry and big pharma corporation Merck came out. Perry backed down but a new bill has been introduced that will make Gardasil mandatory "as an admission requirement for all primary and secondary schools."

THE REAL SECESSIONISTS

The real secessionist movement leaders were arrested, one killed in 1997. Old school Texans will remember there was a genuine grass roots secessionist movement during the 70's through the 90's. They called themselves the Republic of Texas. During the 80's one couldn't miss seeing thousands of 'SECEDE!' bumper stickers in Houston and Austin traffic. Few people took the Secessionists seriously, but the Federal and Texas governments did. Secessionist movement leaders were hunted down and arrested or killed in West Texas in 1997.

The story made the New York Times and CNN, referring to them as 'militant secession group' and 'fringe group'. The group, led by Richard McLaren, stated historical fact that the original Republic of Texas legislature had never ratified Texas becoming a territory or State of the United States. The Republic of Texas was chartered as a sovereign nation recognized by the United States government at the time.

All the Republic of Texas members had been calling for was an official state wide public referendum so citizens could decide whether they wanted to remain under Federal government or reclaim Republic status.

One secessionist was killed in the Davis Mountains by Texas State Police helicopter snipers. No other witnesses. How is it that Governor Rick Perry is getting full media support using the same arguments as did a 'militant fringe group' ?

RiverKing| 9.1.11 @ 5:01PM

The difference between supporting Romney and Perry for most of us associated with the Tea Party is that we would grudgingly vote for Romney in the general election but will work enthusiastically for Perry.

childsplay| 9.1.11 @ 10:15PM

wodiejc - whoever. You - and others - praise Palin to the skies. What are the specifics? Governor of a big state with sparse population. And for not very long, at that. Quit her job because her political enemies were suing her into the poorhouse. Saw she could turn her 15 minutes of fame into a few years and a lot more money with speaking engagements and reality shows. Remove the visuals of Sarah's "perkiness". Remove, for the moment, the insane adulation of the crowd. And read a transcript of what she says. Sound bites, ad nauseam. Pretty thin gruel.

Years ago we had Debbie Reynolds in the movie, The Unsinkable Molly Brown. Sarah is modeled on that and she comes in a poor second.

So paranoid, when a sleazy hack writer camped next door to her she built a big fence around her property. Always whining, "Leave my children alone." Being a "Mama Grizzly"is distracting from being President. Having a royal snit because she was accused of accepting a decent wardrobe when when she was McCain's running mate.... these are the less attractive traits of the insecurity of being a woman. You can get this woman off message in a twinkling.

If Perry is dumb enough to ask her to be is running mate, his goose is cooked. She has to be "the bride at every wedding; the corpse at every wake. . ."

POST American| 9.2.11 @ 11:42PM

--------------------FINAL WORD------------------------

-From Bush to Obama to ROME-knee and
PAIR-he ----capstone cardbord
---with crooked, crooked smiles.

TREASON and EUGENICS and
crooked, crooked smiles!

--------------------------------------------WOE!

Cancan| 9.25.11 @ 4:43AM

Rick Perry is a tool, very questionable a "true" conservative. Really no great candidates ~Cane, Bachmann are different but I don't think they have a chance against the heavy weights. Ron Paul too old and concerned about his stance with Israel.

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