Tonight's Ames debate is make-or-break time for some
Republicans.
DES MOINES -- Charlie Cook of National Journal was
talking to Gwen Ifill of PBS in the back yard, and Carl Cameron of
Fox News was in the front yard, while reporters from the San
Francisco Chronicle and the Philadelphia Inquirer
milled around among the guests at the home of a local businessman
here. They were all awaiting the arrival of the guest of honor at a
fundraiser for the Polk County Republican Party. When Mitt Romney
finally did arrive, TV camera crews, photographers and reporters
rushed down to the street where they encircled him in a moving
scrum as he made his way across the lawn to the front door.
The former Massachusetts governor hasn't visited Iowa very
often this year, and his rare visit Wednesday was occasioned by the
same event that brought so many big-name journalists to town:
Thursday's televised debate, two days before Saturday's Republican
straw poll at Iowa State University in Ames. But while the national
media turned out in droves to cover the Des Moines visit of the
GOP's national front-runner, these reporters and pundits from out
of town aren't eligible to vote in the straw poll, and few Iowa
Republicans are expected to cast their votes Saturday for Romney.
Four years ago, Romney made a strong effort in Ames and won the
straw poll, but the big headline from that event was Mike
Huckabee's unexpectedly strong second-place showing, and Huckabee
subsequently beat Romney in the 2008 Iowa caucuses. Romney's name
will be on the ballot Saturday, but he hasn't organized heavily in
Iowa this year -- he reportedly has only three staffers in the
state -- and most observers don't expect him to finish better than
sixth place in the straw poll.
The questions surrounding the Ames ballot are still
awaiting answers, and tonight's debate (9 p.m. ET, Fox News
Channel) could have a crucial influence on those answers, because
many Iowans who will vote in Saturday's event say they are still
undecided. "The debate is going to be an opportunity for people to
make one last assessment before they show up on Saturday," said
Donald Racheter, a former university political science professor
who is now head of the Public Interest Institute at Iowa Wesleyan
College.
Norm Pawlewski says he has narrowed his choices down to
four candidates -- Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, former
Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty
and Atlanta businessman Herman Cain. And he says Thursday's debate
will be a big factor in deciding which one gets his vote in
Saturday's straw poll. "There are a lot of people who don't have
their mind made up, like myself," says Pawlewski, a lobbyist for
the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition. "It will depend on how free
the debate is, so that the candidates can really express what
they're thinking and their real core values. There's a real
opportunity there for someone to sway me." Like many other
conservative activists here, Pawlewski has already met all four of
the candidates who are on his short list -- and he has also met
most of the ones who didn't make the list, including
Romney.
Regarding prospects for Texas Gov. Rick Perry's push to
get write-in votes in the Ames straw poll, Pawlewski said, "That's
hard -- you've got people like Bachmann and Pawlenty who've got a
lot of boots on the ground. They're working their phones and
they're working their personal contacts, and they're going to have
people coming out. It's kind of hard just to jump in this late in
the game and expect people just to write your name in.… I'd be
surprised if he came in anywhere in the top five"
Nine candidates will be on the ballot in Ames: Romney,
Pawlenty, Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, former House Speaker Newt
Gingrich, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and
Michigan Rep. Thad McCotter. However, due to the debate rules
decided by Fox News -- requiring candidates to show at least one
percent in national polls to qualify -- McCotter won't be on the
stage Thursday. McCotter has complained about his omission from the
TV debate, but some have seen Fox's debate rule as the only way to
exclude Fred Karger, a gay man running a sort of stunt campaign for
president.
Thursday's debate may be decided by what Racheter calls
the "foot-in-your-mouth factor." He recalled Gerald Ford's 1976
debate blunder against Jimmy Carter when Ford claimed that Eastern
Europe was not under "Soviet domination."
"If somebody makes a big faux pas, makes a big mistake… it
makes people say, 'Oh, this guy's not smart enough to be president
of the United States," said Racheter, a veteran observer of Iowa
politics. "You know the mainstream media are going to magnify any
mistake that anybody makes, because they hate Republicans. They
don't want us to be successful. They want Obama to get re-elected.
And you know, he makes mistakes all the time, and they never say
'boo' about any of his mistakes."
Obama's mistakes haven't gone altogether unnoticed,
certainly not by Romney. Speaking to the crowd at Wednesday's
event, Romney recited a list of the president's failures and said,
"You've got a lot of people in this country who are hurting, who
are suffering by virtue of the president's policies. You may ask,
'What did he do that was so bad?' My answer is, well, almost
everything."
That line got a laugh from the Republicans gathered at the
McKinley Avenue home of businessman Nick Van Patten, but while many
of the guests wore the candidate's blue and white "Romney: Believe
in America" stickers on their lapels, several others privately said
they were still weighing their votes in
Saturday's straw poll. And the national front-runner's name wasn't
on their short lists.
-------------------AS Fukishima and NOW
England burns in proper agenda advancing fashion
AS our own ILLEGALS swollen underclass is poised
to be turned on the remnant of the middle class here,
ALLLL with generous funding from the deadly sinister
Rocker-feller/ROTchild sin-dick---IT
---------'benny violence' is ON THE MOVE---------
----Remember kiddies, we're the ITs ---so now, where are the
MEN?
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 9:30AM
You are PARANOID beyond belief, PO.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 9:36AM
PA.
PA, this is superparanoid wingnut psychobabble raving:
"ALLLL with generous funding from the deadly sinister
Rocker-feller/ROTchild sin-dick---IT"
You may have Alzheimers as well.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 9:46AM
Rock 'n' Roll A Feller! The Jew sin dick hate! Yes! and Hyman
Roth, too!
It is the End Times! Benny benzedrine Brokeydoke and the Queen of
England selling dope to finance the riots perhaps? hmm, will have
to ring up Alex Jones on that one. But we DO know the Beatles used
dope and they are English PLUS, they were all born just a few years
before 1946...
Now how is that for a postwar Communist conspiracy?
Clint| 8.11.11 @ 10:03AM
Uh Oh !
Post American Pushed Brooks' Button.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 10:44AM
and the Quetzlcoatl! that sinister evil creature; tell us,
PostAmerican... did the Quetzlcoatl influence the Mayan calender to
end next year?
Tune in next year, Dec. 31st!
Same bat time; same bat channel.
junkyard infidel| 8.11.11 @ 12:13PM
that's funny brooks, i find post americans pickled brain
nonsense more coherent and relevant than yours !
Cosmo| 8.12.11 @ 3:17AM
You've got a bunch of deranged people leaving comments on this
site and they are crowding out
intelligent readers....Maybe that's what they're trying to
do...
Bill| 8.11.11 @ 3:32PM
"benny" violence: is that Benny Hill or Jack Benny.
Or maybe Benny Siegel?
Timothy L. Pennell| 8.11.11 @ 8:02AM
Look. My Grandmother had a way with words. If she were here,
now, she'd say:
"SH*T, or get off the pot."
Look. I could beat this guy. My Beer Can could beat this guy.
What's he got? The Press? The Blacks and the Gays?
Every Economic Indicator is DOWN. The Markets are in a FREE FALL.
And, His Majesty is off to Martha's Vineyard.
We have LOST whatever Prestige, that we used to have. We have GIVEN
UP our Leadership, in Space. We are about to DECIMATE the Finest
Armed Forces the world has ever know, at a time in History, when
EVIL is on the March, so we can pay for FOOD STAMPS.
And you're NOT SURE if you wanna run?
Get the hell outta here!
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 9:39AM
But you will elect another Bushclone soon.
With all the good people in America you keep fobbing off GOP
mediocrities?
Timothy L. Pennell| 8.11.11 @ 9:47AM
You're so boring, Alan. You're like Alan Colmes. Maybe it's the
name?
Doctor Right| 8.11.11 @ 9:51AM
This, from the idiots who gave us Obama, the least experienced
man in ANY room he walks into...
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 11:29AM
I didn't vote for Obama, but I will if you keep running
insects.
At any rate, Obama might drop out of the race.
Clint| 8.11.11 @ 12:37PM
Dare We Ask ?
Gloria La Riva: Socialism & Liberation Party
Brian Moore: Socialist, Vermont Liberty Union Party
Róger Calero: Socialist Workers Party
Al Makkah| 8.11.11 @ 1:43PM
Is there any difference between Bush and Obama?
Bo| 8.11.11 @ 8:55PM
Yes. Quite a bit, actually. Things like abortion, nationalized
health care, nominating Sotomayor and Kagin to the Supreme Court,
etc, etc.
Bo| 8.11.11 @ 8:55PM
Yes. Quite a bit, actually. Things like abortion, nationalized
health care, nominating Sotomayor and Kagin to the Supreme Court,
etc, etc.
Erling| 8.11.11 @ 8:03AM
Yawn...I'm struggling to find scrounge a modicum of interest in
this or any straw pole. But on the subject of Iowa, there's little
reason to support a nomination process which places inordinate
importance on the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary. I'm a
Delaware native, so I'm not inclined to pick on the little guy, but
regional primaries, perhaps 5 would eliminate the inanity of
spending months camping out in a small jurisdiction.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 11:30AM
"straw pole"
Poll. A straw pole wouldn't be of much use.
Erling| 8.11.11 @ 12:37PM
Good grammatical catch- but a straw poll is equally useless;
silly really.
Dave Williams| 8.11.11 @ 1:23PM
Either one is more useful that then ENTIRE sum of comments to
date from the estimable Mr. Brooks.
Mimi| 8.11.11 @ 8:34AM
Iowa matters, so does New Hampshire ! It is the FACE to FACE
encounters at the diners and the sidewalks. It is TRADITION and the
plain folk get to have a look-see close-up!
When its over in both primaries the world will have a good
idea...who their next President will be, and the way things in the
country might go in the near future.
There is a remarkable consensus right now that in 2008 we chose
wrongly. We pin our hopes on fixing that error. To live in these
small states and to meet the candidates, shake their hand, and get
an impression in a personal way is joy to watch, for it is truly
AMERICA at its best!!!
Tell you what! Screw Iowa! Maybe, we could give the rest of the
nation an opportunity to decide besides Iowa, the MSM, and a
handful of talking heads for once.
Doctor Right| 8.11.11 @ 9:27AM
PREDICTION:
Michelle Bachman will do VERY well tonight, as will Rick
Santorum.
As usual, Newt Gingrich will make a lot of sense, but his
campaign was over before it got started, so it won't really
matter.
Cain will also do well, but the media is trying desperately to
ignore him, so he won't get much traction.
After tonight's debate and the straw-poll, we can say good-bye
to Huntsman, Gary Johnson (Who?? Exactly...) and possibly Pawlenty
and Gingrich. They won't quit, but they'll start sending out
"feelers" to the other candidates...
That leaves Bachman, Romney, Paul, Santorum, and Cain.
And we still have no idea what the two (2) 800lb
gorillas-in-the-room, Rick Perry and Sarah Palin, are doing.
GOOD TIMES!!!
Bo| 8.11.11 @ 8:49PM
Bachman is a RINO
Ryan| 8.11.11 @ 9:39AM
The debate and straw poll are more elimination brackets than
anything else, probably. It will be where a couple may shine in
particular or make a big enough mistake to push them out of
contention. The trick now is to simply not lose (but you don't play
that game long term).
carnot| 8.11.11 @ 9:44AM
follow the money!
Clint| 8.11.11 @ 10:14AM
Agreed.
See Who's The Big Financing Behind The Obama & Romney
Campaigns.
Clinton Lovell| 8.11.11 @ 10:08AM
I hope the sparks fly. My money is on Ms. Bachmann, but it will
be interesting to see how things work out. The only certainty is
that it is likely to be a real bad night for Obama.
Aces and Eights| 8.11.11 @ 11:13AM
One can only hope that for Romney it is not "make" but rather
"break" (as in "Break, like the Wind!")
Ground Control| 8.11.11 @ 11:16AM
This is really "make or break" for the Republican Party. If they
nominate some loser non-conservative like McCain and piss off the
Tea Party, the Tea Party members will leave, and the Republican
Party will find that the Party's over. Turn out the lights.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 11:33AM
The Grand Old Poots haven't run a good candidate since 1984!
Ground Control| 8.11.11 @ 11:50AM
That was my point.
Ground Control| 8.11.11 @ 11:50AM
That was my point.
Shamus| 8.11.11 @ 1:46PM
The only candidate the Democrats have had in the last 50 years
that wasn't horrible was Clinton. That's a pretty poor showing.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 11:34AM
Last time I voted GOP was '86.
Bush 41? he had his chance and blew it.
Ground Control| 8.11.11 @ 11:54AM
Still, as bad as the GOP has been (and I quit the Party in the
1990's), comparing their Presidential candidates to the Democrat
candidates since 1992, is (in the words of George Will) like
comparing a second class fireman to a first class arsonist.
idalily| 8.11.11 @ 2:31PM
Ok, so if you didn't vote GOP in 2008 and you didn't vote for
Obama, who DID you vote for, Alan? Just curious.
Those who don't vote--or who throw away their votes on sure
losers--have no right to complain, and very little moral right to
comment on this forum..
Yah Coyote| 8.11.11 @ 12:06PM
Why tradition picked Iowa (still is a fairly good representative
of midwest voters) it is what it is. Press being the nitpickers and
candidates hopefully with a chance to explain their prime ideas. It
fits well with local impact on national outcomes. Probably would
suit James Madison just fine.
Kingofthenet| 8.11.11 @ 2:53PM
Corporations are PEOPLE too, my Friends!
W| 8.11.11 @ 3:59PM
K, who form corporation, work for corporations, and own the
shares of corporations? when you tax a corporation, that tax
affects the price of the products and services, the wages to
employees, and the dividends to the shareholders. a corporation is
a pass through entity.
Look at your pension plan, it has shares of corporations.
Do you think a corporation is an entity from Mars?
rendite| 8.11.11 @ 2:58PM
Argh. Another article that tries desperately to make the former
(long time ago) Massachusetts governor look interesting. Robert
Stacy McCain seems to be in the tank for Romney. Why?
Cato| 8.11.11 @ 3:20PM
Because Robert Stacy McCain is a squish.....
GENE HAUBER| 8.11.11 @ 4:10PM
IF ROMNEY OR HUCKABEE STAY IN THE RACE, NO MATTER THEIR IMPACT,
THE MSM WILL USE BARRELS OF INK TO TELL AMERICA HOW WORTHY THEY ARE
TO BE OUR NOMINEE.............DANGER, DANGER...THERE BE DRAGONS
THERE. THAT'S HOW WE GOT BOB DOLE AND MCCAIN........WE CAN'T BE SO
STUPID TO DO THAT THREE TIMES.
Bo| 8.11.11 @ 8:52PM
Huckabee?
Oldefarte| 8.11.11 @ 4:29PM
FYI:
'....The Next American President Must Redeem Our
Exceptionalism
by Pamela Geller
Posted 08/11/2011 ET
The focus for 2012 so far has been exclusively on which
Republican candidate is most electable. This is hardly the issue.
The next time Americans vote for President will be far more
historically significant than as a mere presidential election. The
next presidential election is not only an election of a person, it
is also, and more importantly, a referendum on American
independence and statehood.
The next American President must vow to return to the founding
principle of the American idea: individual rights. The next
American President must advocate and cheerlead for the most
benevolent and productive human system in the world:
capitalism.
Barack Obama’s socialism is wrecking the American economy and
relinquishing American sovereignty. Obama’s disastrous policies
cannot be reversed overnight. This presidential putsch is the
crowning achievement of a 50-year campaign of sedition and
infiltration of uber-Left, anti-American statism. In many ways it
is even older than 50 years, going back to Franklin Delano
Roosevelt and the New Deal. And imagine: Lyndon Baines Johnson, the
Great Society socialist, wasn’t leftist enough, and was forced not
to run for reelection despite designing the “Great Society”
legislation that included Public Broadcasting, Medicare, Medicaid,
environmental protection, aid to education, and his “War on
Poverty.” The far Left has been working toward the Obama
administration for years, and his election was its finest hour.
No, the tragic election of Barack Hussein Obama was no accident,
and the consequences of it will be catastrophic and painful. But we
as a people, a free people, hold our destiny in our hands. The next
President must campaign, and govern, on austerity, and on American
power and exceptionalism. He or she must campaign on the promise to
dismantle Big Government, roll back this monster, and deregulate
the chains on our economic engine. We must unshackle the small
businessman and destroy the crippling system of serfdom by way of
entitlements. These are harsh but unavoidable realities.
We must be free and we must vote for freedom first, for this was
the very idea of America encompassed in individual rights. This was
our founding principle. Small government in defense of individual
rights, property rights and the national defense.
The next President must have integrity, political will and spine
(something in very short supply in Washington, and so we will have
to go out of the box). We must fight for accurate information and
ignore a media with an activist, propagandist agenda. It has gotten
down to that: the media vs. the people. So we must do our homework
and we must advocate the candidacy of the American who has the
intellectual muscle and testicular fortitude for the coming storm.
We need straight answers and not rhetoric. What are his or her
mission objectives? Where does the candidate stand on Iran? The
Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? The Muslim Brotherhood groups in
America? And the powerful malevolent influence of the Organization
of Islamic Cooperation?
Where does he or she stand on our participation in the United
Nations? The next President must promise to tie funds to the UN to
results and reform. The next President must stop sending foreign
aid to despots and their murdering regimes. The next President must
export political freedom based on individual rights, and reward
countries that work toward that goal.
We must demand and elect freedom-loving officials on all levels,
who will work with the next President of the United States to
return to our founding principles and essential value system.
We can battle over how we got here, but the fundamental point is
that such an undertaking must be initiated: a renewal of the vows
we made in 1776. For no matter what the causes were, the outcome is
clear. We are here, in America and the world of 2011, a new and
terrible place, a precipice with disastrous implications for the
United States (and consequently, the world).
It’s a battle, I know. The brains of our young have been
marinating in a toxic ooze. They have been indoctrinated by a
leftist public school system, a morally corrupt and value-bankrupt
culture, and a university system designed to destroy critical
thinking and instead produce generations of lemmings, foot soldiers
who bark and march on command.
Those of us who remember freedom and know what it is must
therefore fight all the harder....'
shipley130| 8.11.11 @ 5:55PM
Looks like Romney got his peepee smacked a little, trying to
convince people about the travels of corporation money. Pretty fun
to watch.
David| 8.11.11 @ 7:28PM
I would like to see Perry in the debate........but I guess we
will be seeing him in a debate soon enough.
WHat sucks is that Obama got elected president without any
qualifications whatsoever, and now that he may have irrevocably
damaged America, when out of office he will make multiple fortunes,
and he will never his endless diatribes.
I want the repub nominee in a debate with him to say
straight-faced, "it is time for you to go back to community
organizing, go back the Southside of Chicago, and actually fix the
place there. Then come back to the American and ask for their trust
in putting the entire country in your hands. Just acoomplish
something - anything - please - before asking to continue in this
job".
AS Ron Paul's victories in now 2/3 of the straw
polls is being buried ---consider the 'other'
CFR/RIIA vetted, authorized and 'on board'
'choices'
----ME---SHALL_____BALK----MEN----
----MITT____ROME-KNEE----
----'SERA'_____PALE--IN-----
and the unrepentent NAFTA super highway
pusher, infra structure foreign sellout con,
Garadsil injection advocate --and former campaign manager
--for AL GORE ---RRRRRick PAIR ---Heeeeee!
Remember, the capstone lives and dies by
wordplay.
IT really does. That's why they're always
giggling and you don't know why.
REALLY
POST American| 8.13.11 @ 11:12PM
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------------------YOU'RE gonna LUV Karl Rove
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We're even guessing, at the rate it's going, with
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POST American| 8.11.11 @ 7:23AM
------'ME SHALL ------BALK---MEN'
------------'MITT (Gr. for 'with') 'ROME KNEE'
this capstone wordplay really is endless.
----------------------MEANWHILE----------------------
-------------------AS Fukishima and NOW
England burns in proper agenda advancing fashion
AS our own ILLEGALS swollen underclass is poised
to be turned on the remnant of the middle class here,
ALLLL with generous funding from the deadly sinister
Rocker-feller/ROTchild sin-dick---IT
---------'benny violence' is ON THE MOVE---------
----Remember kiddies, we're the ITs ---so now, where are the MEN?
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 9:30AM
You are PARANOID beyond belief, PO.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 9:36AM
PA.
PA, this is superparanoid wingnut psychobabble raving:
"ALLLL with generous funding from the deadly sinister
Rocker-feller/ROTchild sin-dick---IT"
You may have Alzheimers as well.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 9:46AM
Rock 'n' Roll A Feller! The Jew sin dick hate! Yes! and Hyman Roth, too!
It is the End Times! Benny benzedrine Brokeydoke and the Queen of England selling dope to finance the riots perhaps? hmm, will have to ring up Alex Jones on that one. But we DO know the Beatles used dope and they are English PLUS, they were all born just a few years before 1946...
Now how is that for a postwar Communist conspiracy?
Clint| 8.11.11 @ 10:03AM
Uh Oh !
Post American Pushed Brooks' Button.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 10:44AM
and the Quetzlcoatl! that sinister evil creature; tell us, PostAmerican... did the Quetzlcoatl influence the Mayan calender to end next year?
Tune in next year, Dec. 31st!
Same bat time; same bat channel.
junkyard infidel| 8.11.11 @ 12:13PM
that's funny brooks, i find post americans pickled brain nonsense more coherent and relevant than yours !
Cosmo| 8.12.11 @ 3:17AM
You've got a bunch of deranged people leaving comments on this site and they are crowding out
intelligent readers....Maybe that's what they're trying to do...
Bill| 8.11.11 @ 3:32PM
"benny" violence: is that Benny Hill or Jack Benny.
Or maybe Benny Siegel?
Timothy L. Pennell| 8.11.11 @ 8:02AM
Look. My Grandmother had a way with words. If she were here, now, she'd say:
"SH*T, or get off the pot."
Look. I could beat this guy. My Beer Can could beat this guy. What's he got? The Press? The Blacks and the Gays?
Every Economic Indicator is DOWN. The Markets are in a FREE FALL. And, His Majesty is off to Martha's Vineyard.
We have LOST whatever Prestige, that we used to have. We have GIVEN UP our Leadership, in Space. We are about to DECIMATE the Finest Armed Forces the world has ever know, at a time in History, when EVIL is on the March, so we can pay for FOOD STAMPS.
And you're NOT SURE if you wanna run?
Get the hell outta here!
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 9:39AM
But you will elect another Bushclone soon.
With all the good people in America you keep fobbing off GOP mediocrities?
Timothy L. Pennell| 8.11.11 @ 9:47AM
You're so boring, Alan. You're like Alan Colmes. Maybe it's the name?
Doctor Right| 8.11.11 @ 9:51AM
This, from the idiots who gave us Obama, the least experienced man in ANY room he walks into...
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 11:29AM
I didn't vote for Obama, but I will if you keep running insects.
At any rate, Obama might drop out of the race.
Clint| 8.11.11 @ 12:37PM
Dare We Ask ?
Gloria La Riva: Socialism & Liberation Party
Brian Moore: Socialist, Vermont Liberty Union Party
Róger Calero: Socialist Workers Party
Al Makkah| 8.11.11 @ 1:43PM
Is there any difference between Bush and Obama?
Bo| 8.11.11 @ 8:55PM
Yes. Quite a bit, actually. Things like abortion, nationalized health care, nominating Sotomayor and Kagin to the Supreme Court, etc, etc.
Bo| 8.11.11 @ 8:55PM
Yes. Quite a bit, actually. Things like abortion, nationalized health care, nominating Sotomayor and Kagin to the Supreme Court, etc, etc.
Erling| 8.11.11 @ 8:03AM
Yawn...I'm struggling to find scrounge a modicum of interest in this or any straw pole. But on the subject of Iowa, there's little reason to support a nomination process which places inordinate importance on the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary. I'm a Delaware native, so I'm not inclined to pick on the little guy, but regional primaries, perhaps 5 would eliminate the inanity of spending months camping out in a small jurisdiction.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 11:30AM
"straw pole"
Poll. A straw pole wouldn't be of much use.
Erling| 8.11.11 @ 12:37PM
Good grammatical catch- but a straw poll is equally useless; silly really.
Dave Williams| 8.11.11 @ 1:23PM
Either one is more useful that then ENTIRE sum of comments to date from the estimable Mr. Brooks.
Mimi| 8.11.11 @ 8:34AM
Iowa matters, so does New Hampshire ! It is the FACE to FACE encounters at the diners and the sidewalks. It is TRADITION and the plain folk get to have a look-see close-up!
When its over in both primaries the world will have a good idea...who their next President will be, and the way things in the country might go in the near future.
There is a remarkable consensus right now that in 2008 we chose wrongly. We pin our hopes on fixing that error. To live in these small states and to meet the candidates, shake their hand, and get an impression in a personal way is joy to watch, for it is truly AMERICA at its best!!!
Kelly Staples| 8.11.11 @ 8:50AM
Palin/Bolton 2012
Dai Alanye| 8.11.11 @ 5:14PM
Not bad.
simon templar| 8.11.11 @ 9:09AM
Tell you what! Screw Iowa! Maybe, we could give the rest of the nation an opportunity to decide besides Iowa, the MSM, and a handful of talking heads for once.
Doctor Right| 8.11.11 @ 9:27AM
PREDICTION:
Michelle Bachman will do VERY well tonight, as will Rick Santorum.
As usual, Newt Gingrich will make a lot of sense, but his campaign was over before it got started, so it won't really matter.
Cain will also do well, but the media is trying desperately to ignore him, so he won't get much traction.
After tonight's debate and the straw-poll, we can say good-bye to Huntsman, Gary Johnson (Who?? Exactly...) and possibly Pawlenty and Gingrich. They won't quit, but they'll start sending out "feelers" to the other candidates...
That leaves Bachman, Romney, Paul, Santorum, and Cain.
And we still have no idea what the two (2) 800lb gorillas-in-the-room, Rick Perry and Sarah Palin, are doing.
GOOD TIMES!!!
Bo| 8.11.11 @ 8:49PM
Bachman is a RINO
Ryan| 8.11.11 @ 9:39AM
The debate and straw poll are more elimination brackets than anything else, probably. It will be where a couple may shine in particular or make a big enough mistake to push them out of contention. The trick now is to simply not lose (but you don't play that game long term).
carnot| 8.11.11 @ 9:44AM
follow the money!
Clint| 8.11.11 @ 10:14AM
Agreed.
See Who's The Big Financing Behind The Obama & Romney Campaigns.
Clinton Lovell| 8.11.11 @ 10:08AM
I hope the sparks fly. My money is on Ms. Bachmann, but it will be interesting to see how things work out. The only certainty is that it is likely to be a real bad night for Obama.
Aces and Eights| 8.11.11 @ 11:13AM
One can only hope that for Romney it is not "make" but rather "break" (as in "Break, like the Wind!")
Ground Control| 8.11.11 @ 11:16AM
This is really "make or break" for the Republican Party. If they nominate some loser non-conservative like McCain and piss off the Tea Party, the Tea Party members will leave, and the Republican Party will find that the Party's over. Turn out the lights.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 11:33AM
The Grand Old Poots haven't run a good candidate since 1984!
Ground Control| 8.11.11 @ 11:50AM
That was my point.
Ground Control| 8.11.11 @ 11:50AM
That was my point.
Shamus| 8.11.11 @ 1:46PM
The only candidate the Democrats have had in the last 50 years that wasn't horrible was Clinton. That's a pretty poor showing.
Alan Brooks| 8.11.11 @ 11:34AM
Last time I voted GOP was '86.
Bush 41? he had his chance and blew it.
Ground Control| 8.11.11 @ 11:54AM
Still, as bad as the GOP has been (and I quit the Party in the 1990's), comparing their Presidential candidates to the Democrat candidates since 1992, is (in the words of George Will) like comparing a second class fireman to a first class arsonist.
idalily| 8.11.11 @ 2:31PM
Ok, so if you didn't vote GOP in 2008 and you didn't vote for Obama, who DID you vote for, Alan? Just curious.
Dai Alanye| 8.11.11 @ 5:26PM
Those who don't vote--or who throw away their votes on sure losers--have no right to complain, and very little moral right to comment on this forum..
Yah Coyote| 8.11.11 @ 12:06PM
Why tradition picked Iowa (still is a fairly good representative of midwest voters) it is what it is. Press being the nitpickers and candidates hopefully with a chance to explain their prime ideas. It fits well with local impact on national outcomes. Probably would suit James Madison just fine.
Kingofthenet| 8.11.11 @ 2:53PM
Corporations are PEOPLE too, my Friends!
W| 8.11.11 @ 3:59PM
K, who form corporation, work for corporations, and own the shares of corporations? when you tax a corporation, that tax affects the price of the products and services, the wages to employees, and the dividends to the shareholders. a corporation is a pass through entity.
Look at your pension plan, it has shares of corporations.
Do you think a corporation is an entity from Mars?
rendite| 8.11.11 @ 2:58PM
Argh. Another article that tries desperately to make the former (long time ago) Massachusetts governor look interesting. Robert Stacy McCain seems to be in the tank for Romney. Why?
Cato| 8.11.11 @ 3:20PM
Because Robert Stacy McCain is a squish.....
GENE HAUBER| 8.11.11 @ 4:10PM
IF ROMNEY OR HUCKABEE STAY IN THE RACE, NO MATTER THEIR IMPACT, THE MSM WILL USE BARRELS OF INK TO TELL AMERICA HOW WORTHY THEY ARE TO BE OUR NOMINEE.............DANGER, DANGER...THERE BE DRAGONS THERE. THAT'S HOW WE GOT BOB DOLE AND MCCAIN........WE CAN'T BE SO STUPID TO DO THAT THREE TIMES.
Bo| 8.11.11 @ 8:52PM
Huckabee?
Oldefarte| 8.11.11 @ 4:29PM
FYI:
'....The Next American President Must Redeem Our Exceptionalism
by Pamela Geller
Posted 08/11/2011 ET
The focus for 2012 so far has been exclusively on which Republican candidate is most electable. This is hardly the issue. The next time Americans vote for President will be far more historically significant than as a mere presidential election. The next presidential election is not only an election of a person, it is also, and more importantly, a referendum on American independence and statehood.
The next American President must vow to return to the founding principle of the American idea: individual rights. The next American President must advocate and cheerlead for the most benevolent and productive human system in the world: capitalism.
Barack Obama’s socialism is wrecking the American economy and relinquishing American sovereignty. Obama’s disastrous policies cannot be reversed overnight. This presidential putsch is the crowning achievement of a 50-year campaign of sedition and infiltration of uber-Left, anti-American statism. In many ways it is even older than 50 years, going back to Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the New Deal. And imagine: Lyndon Baines Johnson, the Great Society socialist, wasn’t leftist enough, and was forced not to run for reelection despite designing the “Great Society” legislation that included Public Broadcasting, Medicare, Medicaid, environmental protection, aid to education, and his “War on Poverty.” The far Left has been working toward the Obama administration for years, and his election was its finest hour.
No, the tragic election of Barack Hussein Obama was no accident, and the consequences of it will be catastrophic and painful. But we as a people, a free people, hold our destiny in our hands. The next President must campaign, and govern, on austerity, and on American power and exceptionalism. He or she must campaign on the promise to dismantle Big Government, roll back this monster, and deregulate the chains on our economic engine. We must unshackle the small businessman and destroy the crippling system of serfdom by way of entitlements. These are harsh but unavoidable realities.
We must be free and we must vote for freedom first, for this was the very idea of America encompassed in individual rights. This was our founding principle. Small government in defense of individual rights, property rights and the national defense.
The next President must have integrity, political will and spine (something in very short supply in Washington, and so we will have to go out of the box). We must fight for accurate information and ignore a media with an activist, propagandist agenda. It has gotten down to that: the media vs. the people. So we must do our homework and we must advocate the candidacy of the American who has the intellectual muscle and testicular fortitude for the coming storm. We need straight answers and not rhetoric. What are his or her mission objectives? Where does the candidate stand on Iran? The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? The Muslim Brotherhood groups in America? And the powerful malevolent influence of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation?
Where does he or she stand on our participation in the United Nations? The next President must promise to tie funds to the UN to results and reform. The next President must stop sending foreign aid to despots and their murdering regimes. The next President must export political freedom based on individual rights, and reward countries that work toward that goal.
We must demand and elect freedom-loving officials on all levels, who will work with the next President of the United States to return to our founding principles and essential value system.
We can battle over how we got here, but the fundamental point is that such an undertaking must be initiated: a renewal of the vows we made in 1776. For no matter what the causes were, the outcome is clear. We are here, in America and the world of 2011, a new and terrible place, a precipice with disastrous implications for the United States (and consequently, the world).
It’s a battle, I know. The brains of our young have been marinating in a toxic ooze. They have been indoctrinated by a leftist public school system, a morally corrupt and value-bankrupt culture, and a university system designed to destroy critical thinking and instead produce generations of lemmings, foot soldiers who bark and march on command.
Those of us who remember freedom and know what it is must therefore fight all the harder....'
shipley130| 8.11.11 @ 5:55PM
Looks like Romney got his peepee smacked a little, trying to convince people about the travels of corporation money. Pretty fun to watch.
David| 8.11.11 @ 7:28PM
I would like to see Perry in the debate........but I guess we will be seeing him in a debate soon enough.
WHat sucks is that Obama got elected president without any qualifications whatsoever, and now that he may have irrevocably damaged America, when out of office he will make multiple fortunes, and he will never his endless diatribes.
I want the repub nominee in a debate with him to say straight-faced, "it is time for you to go back to community organizing, go back the Southside of Chicago, and actually fix the place there. Then come back to the American and ask for their trust in putting the entire country in your hands. Just acoomplish something - anything - please - before asking to continue in this job".
POST American| 8.12.11 @ 10:48PM
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AS Ron Paul's victories in now 2/3 of the straw
polls is being buried ---consider the 'other'
CFR/RIIA vetted, authorized and 'on board'
'choices'
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----MITT____ROME-KNEE----
----'SERA'_____PALE--IN-----
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--for AL GORE ---RRRRRick PAIR ---Heeeeee!
Remember, the capstone lives and dies by
wordplay.
IT really does. That's why they're always
giggling and you don't know why.
REALLY
POST American| 8.13.11 @ 11:12PM
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