“You think I’m licked. You all think I’m licked! Well
I’m not licked! And I’m gonna stay right here and fight for this
lost cause… even if this room gets filled with lies like these.…
Somebody will listen to me.”
— Jimmy Stewart as anti-Establishment Senator
Jefferson Smith in Mr. Smith Goes
to Washington
She’s baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.
The woman the Ruling Class spent so much time scorning in
2010 isn’t going quietly. As a matter of fact, there’s not the
slightest sign she’s going — period.
And — among others — Texas Senator John Cornyn, the
National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) Chairman, along
with former Bush White House aide Karl Rove and the elites of the
Delaware Republican Party, will decidedly not be happy to hear
it.
On the other hand, sitting across from me last week on the
sunlit patio of a local Starbucks, the first hot-off the presses
copy of her newly published book Troublemaker in hand, a
distinctly upbeat and enthusiastic Christine O’Donnell looked and
sounded pretty sunny herself.
With considerable justification.
The subjects she talked about with such passion in last
year’s campaign season are today the center of Washington politics.
An irony considering Ms. O’Donnell was derided not only by elitist
Delaware Democrats but Ruling Class elites of both the Delaware
Republican Party and, amazingly in a movement that celebrates such
anti-liberal Establishment stars from Buckley to Reagan to Fox and
talk radio, some conservatives. In the latter case, to be fair,
there were conservatives who took umbrage at an O’Donnell lawsuit
against the conservative Intercollegiate Studies Institute. The
issue involved was gender discrimination, and was dropped by
O’Donnell in January 2008. But in fact this was decidedly not the
driving issue surrounding her campaign against Castle. The issue
quickly clarified along the lines of a modern “Davida” against the
Establishment “Goliath” Castle. O’Donnell, in spite of being the
GOP Senate nominee against Biden in 2008 and an unsuccessful
primary candidate in 2006, was pilloried by elites in extraordinary
fashion that instantly rallied supporters to her side. Castle, his
record as a liberal along with the larger issue of
exactly where his kind of thinking was leading the country,
became the physical embodiment of precisely how and why
so many saw the country as careening off the tracks. And prominent
in the Castle camp O’Donnell quite specifically includes Cornyn,
Rove, and the functionaries of the Delaware State Republican Party.
All of whom, she says, continued to undermine her campaign
once nominated — infuriating Tea Party conservatives all across
the country.
O’Donnell had reason to be upbeat the other day in our
talk. Her book,
Troublemaker: Let’s Do What It Takes To Make America Great
Again, will be released on August
16.
The book comes out in the wake of yesterday’s 635-point
drop in the stock market, which in turns comes on the heels of what
presidential critics quickly termed the “Obama Downgrade” — the
historic first-ever downgrading of America’s credit rating. Which
in turn comes on the heels of the tumultuous debate over whether to
raise the debt ceiling. A debate in which Tea Party conservatives
like O’Donnell insisted the “compromise” was not enough to save
Americans from, well, downgrades and stock market plunges. Finally,
perhaps not so coincidentally, the book debuts in the middle of the
much larger divide over whether America will become a
European-style “social justice” state where well-heeled, tax-payer
financed government bureaucrats issue fiats on all manner of
class-warfare redistributive schemes — schemes that have already
resulted in what Rush Limbaugh is calling the “Barackalypse.” And
that was before the stock market wipeout.
O’Donnell, of course, is famous precisely because she was
an early and emphatic supporter of Tea Party-style opposition to
the left-wing politics that are fueling what House Majority Leader
Eric Cantor recently
described to the Wall Street Journal
as a divide between “two different world views.”
A considerable part of the controversy that swirled around
O’Donnell last fall, thinly disguised in furious and frequently
snotty elitist allegations (in a tone that curiously seems to have
found its way into the current criticisms of Congresswoman Michele
Bachmann and former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin — hmmmmm) was in
reality precisely this same debate.
Yet perhaps because she is a conservative woman, like the
much derided Palin, Bachmann, and Nevada’s Sharron Angle, O’Donnell
became a veritable ground zero for bizarre, off-the-wall
allegations (She dated a guy in high school who believed in
witchcraft! She opposed masturbation! She had trouble paying the
IRS!) that were presented as immediately disqualifying for a seat
in the United States Senate.
This at a point in history where the record shows that
factual truths about allegations against male politicians in
federal office were just one big no-never-mind. This Grand
Canyon-sized double-standard was
noted here last year as O’Donnell’s campaign against GOP
Establishment favorite Congressman Mike Castle was taking off, and
O’Donnell cites my column in her book. But to update and sharpen
(surely you won’t see this list — my own, not O’Donnell’s — in a
New York Times review of O’Donnell’s book. Then again,
chances are excellent you will never see a review of O’Donnell’s
book in the New York Times to begin with unless there is a
felt need to disparage her yet again), these Establishment men who
have been given all manner of behavioral passes would
include:
• Senator Ted Kennedy’s Chappaquiddick (in which the very
much incumbent senator drove a car off a bridge, a woman drowned
and he fled the scene of the accident).
• Senator John McCain’s Keating Five (in which the very
much incumbent senator was accused of influencing a federal
regulator on behalf of a political contributor).
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.9.11 @ 6:21AM
Here's Karl Rove complaining about Christine O'Donnell taking two decades to get a college degree:
Karl Rove sounded a depressing tone for Republicans late Tuesday night, warning that surprise Delaware GOP Senate nominee Christine O’Donnell has said “nutty things” and has ruined the party’s chances of winning the seat.
“I’ve met her. I wasn’t frankly impressed by her abilities as a candidate,” Rove said during an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “One thing that O’Donnell is now going to have to answer in the general election that she didn't in the primary is her own checkered background.”
“There were a lot of nutty things she has been saying that don't add up,” Rove added.
“Why did she mislead voters about her college education? How come it took nearly two decades to pay her college bills so she could get her college degree? How did she make a living?”
Here are the facts about Karl Rove's college degree:
He doesn't have one.
This leads to Rule 1 of the Ruling Elite:
It doesn't matter whether your have credentials, it only matters if you claim someone else doesn't have credentials.
Also, Karl Rove clams Christine O'Donnell has dome some strange things, here's Karl Rove:
During Rove's tenure at the College Republicans, the organization was accused of encouraging "dirty tricks" in the 1972 campaign. Rove has acknowledged that in 1970 he used a false identity to get into the headquarters of a Democratic candidate running for state treasurer of Illinois. Rove swiped the campaign's letterhead and sent out 1,000 invitations to the campaign headquarters opening promising "free beer, free food, girls, and a good time."
Rove has been involved in the latest White House scandals—the leaking of CIA covert agent Valerie Plame's name to the press and the firing of seven U.S. attorneys. In the Plame case, Rove denied that he had revealed Plame's name to the grand jury investigating the case. When it was revealed that he did leak her name to Matthew Cooper of Time, he was allowed to return to the grand jury and amend his statement. Rove was not charged in the case.
Have you considered| 8.9.11 @ 8:15AM
Isn't it the flap over the O'Donnell campaign and his blatant dis-ing of her what earned him the moniker of Tokyo Rove?
I haven't seen or heard much about Karl lately, and good riddance I say.
He broke the 11th commandment, After she won the primary. I think this did influence the electorate, and turned many against her.
Instead they elected the Bearded Marxist. Go figure.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.9.11 @ 8:52AM
Two more sides of Karl Rove. While he lambasted O'Donnell, he endorsed McCain for President. However, when McCain ran against Bush it was a different story. Here are the facts:
From the O'Reilly show:
" I think most of your viewers be shocked to hear the story about Cindy McCain in Bangladesh, visiting an orphanage, and she has a small dying child thrust into her hands and the orphanage…the people in the orphanage say we can’t, we can’t care for her, she’s dying, we don’t know what to do. And Cindy McCain’s impulse was to hold that…hug that child to her chest, get on an airplane and bring her home. When she got off the plane, there was John McCain, and he said, “What do you got?” and she said “I’ve got a child who’s dying, we need to get her help…we need to get her care.” And John said, “Well, who is she going to be staying with?” and Cindy McCain said, “I was hoping that she could stay with us.” And today, that young child--who was near death--is their teenage daughter. I don’t think most people understand the compassion and love that would come from a moment like that. There’s a lot more of John McCain’s story that he needs to tell."
Here's Karl Rove's actions 8 years earlier when McCain was running against Bush. Same child, different take:
From The Nation:
http://videosift.com/video/Rov.....s-okay-now
"Rove invented a uniquely injurious fiction for his operatives to circulate via a phony poll. Voters were asked, 'Would you be more or less likely to vote for John McCain…if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?' This was no random slur. McCain was at the time campaigning with his dark-skinned daughter, Bridget, adopted from Bangladesh."
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.9.11 @ 9:14AM
Here's more on the man Karl Rove endorsed for and worked for as a consultant for President, John McCain, in deference to Christine O'Donnell, who's never taken a payoff or bribe.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com.....ng-five/2/
Clearly, both you and Glenn sold your fame for Charles Keating's money.
It was a Faustian bargain. It was also a bad joke on the rest of us and a disaster for many old people who lost their life's savings to Keating.
The money was never really Keating's to give. But he never would have got his hands on it if you and the rest of the Keating Five didn't halt the government takeover for two long years while Keating's people continued their looting.
And now, the tab for the Savings and Loan heist must be paid from taxpayer pockets.
On Sunday, Senators Dennis DeConcini, Alan Cranston, and Riegle refused offers to appear on the Brinkley show. What must we make of that?
You, the closest of them to Keating and the deepest in his debt, have chosen the path of the hard sell. You may even make it out of the pot, but to many, your protestations of innocence taste like gall.
You are determined to bluff your way. You will stick to your story that you were acting to help a constituent and intended to do nothing improper. The very fact you attended the meeting makes you guilty, just as every man who entered the Brinks vault went to prison.
So what if he gave you $112,000? Just keep smiling at the cameras and saying you did nothing wrong.
Maybe the voters will understand you took those tiring trips to Charlie's place in the Bahamas in their behalf. Certainly, they can understand you wanted to take your family along. A senator deserves to travel on private jets, removed from the awful crush of public transportation.
You sought out a master criminal like Keating and became his friend. Now you've discarded him. It shouldn't be surprising that you are now in the process of selling out your senatorial accomplices.
You're John McCain, clearly the guiltiest, most culpable and reprehensible of the Keating Five. But you know the power of television and you realize this is the only way you can possibly save your political career.
Dai Alanye | 8.9.11 @ 11:09AM
It's one thing to oppose someone's policies but another to distort and slander them. Everyone involved with the Keating Five prosecution agreed John McCain was innocent.
With regard to Rove or anyone else on the Republican side, the Plame affair was a setup from the start. No crime was committed in "uncovering" Plame, and the first person to do it was Plame herself.
Further, the idea that Rove played a "dirty trick" on the Dems while in college should make him a hero. After all, it's only one against hundreds that the Dems themselves pull.
But was Rove faulty in opposing Christine O'Donnell after she was nominated? Yes. But he's also a fine political operative, and if O'Donnell or any other Republican were lucky enough to get his sincere help she'd be a fool not to accept it.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.9.11 @ 11:25AM
I'm simply pointing out that Karl Rove isn't perfect. Not making any judgment. I didn't state what he did was wrong. But he's an unbelievable hypocrite for stating Christine O'Donnell took two decades to get her college degree when it's been four decades for Karl Rove and he still doesn't have one.
You're jumping to conclusions and I might point out that you're assumption is a slam but it's also an outright lie.
John McCain was far from innocent. As far as his innocence the editorial which I didn't write, speaks for itself. Is there something in the editorial that isn't correct? Then tell us what it is that you feel is false. Because if any of it is true then McCain is a corrupt liar. And you're endorsing him at that point, just like Rove.
In fact, it's rather humorous you would bring it up since it was bought up by Rove vis a vis the Bush campaign. Is Rove still a hero, or are you another misinformed hypocrite?
By the way, John McCain was never exonerated. He gave up the money from Keating and was never subjected to a full scale criminal investigation:
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03.....-glee.html
The most seriously wounded, for now, is Mr. Cranston, who has already announced that he will not seek re-election in 1992 because of prostate cancer.
"He was an easy sacrifice," said Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, senior associate of the Center for Politics and Policy at in Claremont, Calif. "Although I believe the decision was a correct one in his case, it appears as though it was the easiest one for the Ethics Committee because he was the least politically vulnerable, because he wasn't going to run for election again."
The other four Senators argue that their milder treatment was tantamount to exoneration. But they will have to overcome the dramatic losses in public opinion shown in polls taken before the committee's deliberations.
A poll of Arizona residents by The Arizona Republic in January, for example, found that nearly two out of three respondents believed that Mr. DeConcini should resign immediately or at the end of his term, and nearly half said the same thing about Mr. McCain. But Mr. McCain said his poll ratings had improved as the Keating deliberations were dwarfed by the Persian Gulf war. In an interview today, the Senator, a former prisoner of war, said, "I was kind of redefined by the war." Solid Core of Support
Teaghan| 8.9.11 @ 11:34AM
Too much is make of college degrees. Not everyone has to go to college. We need more technical schools for those who don't wish to spend 50grand on 4 years of partying to come out with a degree that may get you a manager's job at McDonalds.
Dai Alanye | 8.9.11 @ 6:22PM
What I know, Stalin, is what it takes to win elections, while what you know is how to lose potential votes. The deal isn't about picking out people to hate but convincing wobblers to lean our way. Wise up.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.9.11 @ 6:43PM
Yeah, John McCain won according to you but according to reality he lost. He was the typical bipartisan candidate direct from the Republican leadership and that's your dream boy. That's what you know about winning elections, which isn't much apparently. If anybody needs to wise up, it's you, you're facts are based on myth which means you're either an idiot or a moron. Your choice.
Nick| 8.9.11 @ 11:39PM
Karl (Marx) Rove is a pig, who should be hanging in a smokehouse. Figuratively speaking, of course.
J.C.Eaton| 8.10.11 @ 1:14AM
So we learn that Karl Rove is a blivet[350lbs of shit in a 5lb bag]. Next.....?
Cosmo| 8.10.11 @ 3:08AM
Christine O'Donnell is what liberals fear most:
A Catholic Republican...If Catholics and Republicans ever get together, liberalism is dead.
Rove has a record as an anti-Catholic.
Alan Brooks| 8.9.11 @ 10:24AM
If Rove doesn't like her, then she must have something going for her.
Alan Brooks| 8.9.11 @ 10:28AM
...pardon, Rove doesn't think much of her abilities, yet perhaps he 'likes' her.
He wouldn't be her Svengali, though, Rove is waiting for Jeb to rake in the big contributions..
mames| 8.9.11 @ 12:46PM
Rove. This is the kind of company the Bushs keep. A fat undsiciplined little prick of a man with no conservative credentials. I really hate these "handlers" and their willingly led candidates.
I'll take principled novices over these clowns all day long.
Alan Brooks| 8.9.11 @ 2:48PM
Well, mames, unfortunately people still need bread and circuses.
No accounting for taste- or lack thereof.
Alan Brooks| 8.9.11 @ 4:37PM
...got to hand it to him: Rove was a better salesman than PT Barnum; Rove could sell swampland in Florida if he wanted to. He could sell anything.
Groad| 8.9.11 @ 6:46AM
Big Deal. It took me 10 years and my sister 30. My brother never did finish. So what. Too many idiots are out there with useleess degrees much less ones with degrees who know nothing.
mames| 8.9.11 @ 12:56PM
Some of the most intelligent self taught men and women I have ever know never had no degree. Lincoln passed the bar but had no degree, Limbaugh flunked out of college and is more articulate than the a holes in congress from the Ivy League.
A formal education is a wonderful thing, I have one, but without bedrock precepts based in reality it is useless. I have had the honor of being in the presence of truly educated men all my life with degrees coming out of their posteriors who treat all with respect and learning as a life long enterprise. Sean Connery had no formal education. He decided to begin reading all the western classics he could get his hands on. From there he continued his learning for the rest of his life. I do not know his politics but he is no longer an uneducated man and can speak The Bard with the best of them.
Occam's Tool| 8.9.11 @ 1:16PM
I'd vote for her. If we keep running decent human beings eventually some of them will be elected, eventually enough. Keep putting the feet one in front of the other.
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 1:30PM
Me, too.
Walking Horse| 8.9.11 @ 4:14PM
Well said! Some of the wisest folks I've ever met had no formal education. I've dealt with a bunch of Ph.D.'s I wouldn't trust to walk my dog.
Stuart Koehl| 8.9.11 @ 6:59AM
No crime was committed in the divulgence of Valerie Plame's identity. She was not a covert operative at the time. The law did not apply to her. I had the dubious privilege of meeting Plame at a conference sponsored by the Non-Proliferation Division through the Pacific Research Institute. Plame was there . She was handing out her CIA business card (bet you didn't know they had those). Apparently she didn't consider her employment to be any great secret.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.9.11 @ 7:17AM
Yes, it was quite clear from the beginning that no crime was committed because Patrick Fitzgerald knew that Richard Armitage was the primary source of the Plame information and that was not a crime in and of itself.
Scooter Libby's conviction is also questionable because the evidence was weak. It was also revealed after the trial that one of Tim Russert's neighbors sat on the jury and Tim Russert was one of the primary witnesses against Scooter Libby. I've always suspected it was Tim Russert who lied. It should have been declared a mistrial at that point.
But that doesn't change the fact that Karl Rove misled the federal Grand Jury and was allowed to amend his statement. Bizarre!
W| 8.9.11 @ 11:05AM
Stuart, did the CIA card disintegrate after five seconds? Did it say "Valerie, you undercover agent at work, protecting your country."
Occam's Tool| 8.9.11 @ 1:19PM
Of course they do, Stuart. And so do the Secret Service Guys. I had the privilege of calling in a threat from a patient to the President and having the Secret Service come over and interview my patient once. I've also hospitalized a patient once on the order of The Secret Service. As you know, most of these things are routine duties for these guys.
The Bishop| 8.9.11 @ 7:18AM
If Mark Levin is for her, that's good enough for me. I wish she'd move to Indiana and defeat Lugar in this next primary. I'd be proud to have her as my senator.
Have you considered| 8.9.11 @ 8:28AM
As a former Hoosier, and passionately opposed to Lugar the RINO, I am pleased to inform you that Lugar already has a Tea Party supported primary challenger that looks very good.
Richard Mourdock. He recently got the (I think) Club for Growth endorsement, and he is polling very well against Lugar.
He was the state treasurer, who tried to stop, via emergency application to the SCOTUS, the Chrysler "planned, fast-tracked" bankruptcy because the state was a secured bond holder, and they were being fleeced. SCOTUS being at recess at the time, the app went to R.B. Ginsberg who refused to issue an injunction, or to call the other justices to even hear the argument if I recall.
Anyway, is seems Hoosiers have a very good alternative to Lugar. You should check him out.
The Bishop| 8.9.11 @ 9:27AM
I agree Have You Considered, Mourdock looks like a very good challenger. It's time to send over-tenured Dick back to the farm for retirement.
Redstateboy| 8.9.11 @ 10:31AM
We here in Tennessee have RINO Senator Lamar Alexander seeking re-election.. Enough of this BS!! We need a Christine O'Donnell! A Marco Rubio, a Jim DeMint! Alexander is such a "Republican" - Countryclub, Blueblood, Wealthy.. a "Look-at-me-I'm-a-US-Senator type but he Ain't a Conservative.
Bo| 8.9.11 @ 11:45AM
Make sure you get a Rubio or a DeMint and not an O'Donnell. Otherwise, you'll end up with a Democrat Senator.
Have you considered| 8.9.11 @ 11:56AM
Redstateboy, soooo agree with you on L. Alexander.
Are you active in your local Tea Party, or do you know if they have started vetting any primary challengers?
Redstateboy| 8.9.11 @ 4:15PM
I'm the Bane of Liber-uls.. I write often to the Knoxville News Sentinel excoriating Liber-uls and Liber-ulism but I have no problem ripping into someone as "do-nothing" as Alexander and I will.
Melvin| 8.9.11 @ 7:22AM
I don't know people, that, "No masturbating," stance is a real tough one to overcome. I don't know if I can support a candidate that would advocate banning the, "Monkey."
We have all ran into people during our adult lives, who had collegiate pedigrees as long as their pointy noses, and couldn't hold an intelligent conversation with a baboon.
They give themselves really important fancy names and titles, and reside in their protected class in academia as the, "Esteemed," something or another.
I did once run into a gentleman of whom I have unfortunately forgotten his name. He had a Masters Degree in philosophy and working on a additional degree in law.
He had to complete a dissertation on the Law of War. He joined the United States Marine Corps as an enlisted man, and his job specialty was 0311 Infantryman. One evening after the training was completed number of us were sitting around the fire, and the salts as him, "What in the hell, caused you to decide to go and joint the Marine Corps, as an almost thirty-something. He replied, "I have to write a thesis on the law of war, to complete my degree, and I wanted it to be accurate instead of writing a thesis off someone else's research, I wanted it to be my original research." "You know you could be called to go to war." He replied, "Yes, I accept that, but even as I am fighting I'll be conducting my research."
We discussed anything and everything till the sun came up the next morning. But it felt that I had only scratched the surface of this man's intelligence.
He was one of the very few people that we meet sometimes in our lives, that we are left in awe of. Not bad for a guy that never owned a car and road every where on his bicycle.
I guess the point to all this is, that we should not underestimate Christine O'Donnell because Carl Rove and the Media says so, because we really don't know what is under the surface of this woman. For all we know she could be the key-holder that unlocks us from our economic bondage.
Jonathon Moseley| 8.9.11 @ 11:50AM
Melvin, why are you talking about someone "banning" anything? That is part of the silliness of politics, and I have to say that this discussion reflects poorly on Christine's detractors and makes her critics look like the illogical ones.
Christine O'Donnell quoted Jesus Christ. Were you aware of that? If you are criticizing what she said, do you even realize that you are criticizing what Jesus Christ said and what the Church has taught for nearly 2,000 years?
However, what does that have to do with "banning" anything? Conservatives of all people should understand the vast difference between having an opinion, especially a private religious belief, and wanting to use to government to officialy "ban" something?
Where do you get the idea that Christine O'Donnell ever wanted to ban anything on that topic, any more than passing a law to prohibit eating fish on Friday or requiring people to wear ash on their forehead on Ash Wednesday?
Can't we have beliefs and preferences in this society without everything being about governnment passing a law or regulation? I like root beer. I am not going to advocate for a law banning all other soft drinks simply because I like root beer.
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 1:34PM
And didn't one of No-pants Willie's nominees for Surgeon General believe that the subject should be taught in schools?
W| 8.9.11 @ 9:38PM
She should have taught Slick Willie.
Lawrence Boccardi| 8.9.11 @ 7:24AM
Her treatment, by Rove, changed my view of Rove forever. Most of what he now says, must get thru an ever-present filter of cynicism.
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 8:12AM
It was the O'Donnell campaign and Karl Rove's treatment of her during his several interviews with Sean Hannity that cemented in my mind the notion that for the most part Republicans are Democrats but pose as the opposition party to gather up for their own benefit that part of the electorate instinctively alarmed at the leftist-liberal agenda of the donkey party.
In short, the Republican Party has lost its salt and gone to the dark side. It's a wonder that conservatives like O'Donnell even want to be associated with them. More power to her that she is a fighter -- with principles (which makes her richer than 95% of the DC crowd) -- who is willing to take on the establishment Republicans and work within the party to take it back.
Heaven knows, our country could use another 100 O'Donnells and DeMints. It's past time to put RINOs out to pasture.
Vern Crisler | 8.9.11 @ 11:05AM
Yeah, Rove is one of the stupidest people I've ever had the pleasure of not meeting. He actually claimed that Obama won because he had a consistent message!
I think Christine lost because she was not the best campaigner. She blew it big time with the "I am not a witch" remark. (Nixon: "I am not a crook.") She should have maybe done the nose thing from Bewitched; at least then she would have gotten a laugh. Maybe she's learned not to take herself too seriously and will hopefully be a better campaigner in the future.
Teaghan| 8.9.11 @ 11:38AM
Her campaign was awful and an embarrassment to watch. It was painful. But when you don't have billions behind you, you don't have a good PR firm hence her stupid witch add. God, how dumb was that!
W| 8.9.11 @ 11:08AM
Agree about Rove. I sent him several emails after his attacks on O'Donnell. He replied by sending me more articles attacking her. It would have helped if we had two more conservative Senators, such as Angle and O'Donnell, during this deficit vote.
Bo| 8.9.11 @ 11:46AM
You mean like Castle or Tarkanian?
Paul from SA| 8.9.11 @ 12:37PM
Me too. Because of what Rove said about O'Donnell (and me implicity that I'm stupid, too stupid to understand political calculus), I have no respect for his opinions. The damag is permenent.
I have trouble paying attention to anything he says on tv. I don't view him as a likable person.
They don't understand. We don't want immediate Republican majority power; we want a conservative gov't. Rove wants us to choose between a 19% growth in gov't (Democrat) vs. 13% growth in gov't (Republican).
Meanwhile conservatives have had it.
It's because of people like McCain, Castle, David Brooks, David Frum, Lindsay Graham, Peggy Noonan, Mona Charen, Colin Powell, Megan McCain, and KARL ROVE, that I and millions of Americans are not a member of the Republican party. We left... You can call me a Tea Partier if you want, and I won't be offended. It's a compliment.
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 1:36PM
"They don't understand. We don't want immediate Republican majority power; we want a conservative gov't. Rove wants us to choose between a 19% growth in gov't (Democrat) vs. 13% growth in gov't (Republican)."
Absolutely correct!
I Survived Arlen Specter| 8.9.11 @ 6:23PM
Paul, you left the following GOP Establishment "water carriers" off of your list: Michael Smerconish, Michael Medved, Mike Gallagher, Bill Bennett, Kathleen Parker, George Will, Bill Kristol, Fred Barnes, The Bush family, John Cornyn, Steve Schmidt, Mike "I like to bash conservatives on live microphones!" Murphy, Ed Rollins, & Nichole Wallace. And just like you I left & no longer fund the GOP because of these people & those you mentioned.
Paul from SA| 8.9.11 @ 9:01PM
Thanks for adding to the list. I am familiar with all those names and why they belong, except Smerconish. I'd like to add Kay Bailey Hutchison.
Where's Katie Abrams? She's the woman who confronted Specter at that townhall meeting... she impressed me so much....
mames| 8.9.11 @ 1:03PM
He and Newt are poisoned for ev errrr.
Mike Hawk| 8.9.11 @ 7:58AM
Rove is an establishment RINO. O'Donnell's only "crime" was to nuke the uber-RINO Mike Castle in the primary. It was his turn and the RINO establishment did not like the fact he was sh*tcanned by the base in favor of Christine.
PCC| 8.9.11 @ 8:07AM
Dear Mr. Lord,
Thank you for an excellent article.
gearjammer| 8.9.11 @ 8:16AM
You folks still insist Angle and O.Donnell were senatorial material. You insult a guy like Toomey or Rubio by saying they are all of equal caliber. My God-is there a law against beating a dead horse ? We need one. This all falls on the RNC. Two candidates never should have split the vote of more reasonable Republicans in Nevada, and if Castle was such a turnoff then a Rubio should have been found and groomed way earlier. 4 more years of Obama and you get a supreme court that is gonna clean your clocks once and for all. You need the so called Rino vote to beat him and the rest of the Dems. Quit spitting in your ally's face.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.9.11 @ 8:41AM
Your comment is beyond humorous when you consider that John McCain, a prolifically corrupt Washington insider, was the Republican nominee for President, picked with the assistance of the Karl Rove class. Add to that John McCain was the poster child of bipartisanship and other forms of inside the beltway reaching across the aisle that lead us to where we are today. Just recently John McCain took to the Senate floor labeling the Tea Party members as Hobbits.
No, in fact, it's people like you who will ensure Obama's second term.
gearjammer| 8.9.11 @ 9:24AM
What is humorous is you assertion Republicans can win without Rinos-who really are anyone who does not agree with you 100 per cent. Your attempt to takeover the big tent GOP will fail. Personally you all need to form an actual third party. Big tent reasonable republicans and independents will carry the day against the crazed democrats. Really, just go. Geting rid of your kind takes so many monkeys of the GOP's back.
albert constantine jr.| 8.9.11 @ 10:09AM
Until the 2010 primary, Republican voters in Delaware never had the opportunity to choose between Castle and any other Republican in a primary. He had a nearly 40 year history of ignoring conservatives in order to reach out to the left. He thought there was no other choice, but learned that the first time that there was one (in the form of the imperfect but courageous Miss O'Donnell), Republican primary voters in the first state flocked to her. The Senatorial voting record of Castle would have likely resembled that of Biden and Carper. In the end, beyond a party label, the difference between Castle and Coons was that Castle was never known to have worn facial hair or advocated Marxism. In a close vote in the Senate, he could not have been counted on to vote with Republicans or conservatives, and he had been known to undermine the right by threatening to withhold his vote while in Congress. As I wrote the night of the primary, Sic Semper Rhinocerus.
R Martin| 8.9.11 @ 10:09AM
Mr. gearjammer, please take your big tent and go to--but never mind, it is not for me to suggest; you will probably find the way; and besides, you can reasonably count on divine assistance if you lose you bearings.
Dan Hirsch| 8.9.11 @ 10:14AM
gearjammer,
Push in the clutch for a second.
RINO's are elected officials who campaign as conservative Republicans and once elected vote (or govern) in their elected office as liberals. Arlen Spector was the perfect RINO.
The electorate, the citizens voting for candidates, cannot really be RINO's unless they talk up Republican candidates and then in the privacy of the voting booth vote for Democrats. Which would be incredibly nonsensical behavior.
So if you consider yourself a RINO, what office do you hold? Or are you that confused?
The problem, as identified by Rush and others, is the elected elites who live and think inside the DC Beltway. They tend to all think the same things and believe that government needs to be in charge of us all in our every decision. Democrats profess this belief and govern by it. Republicans used to NOT think like that. Those elected Republicans thinking and governing by that belief are RINO's.
The Tea Party is trying, desperately, to change the Republican Party back into what it once was: the conservative party that believed in the fundamentals of our government, primarily that the government serves the people, at their will, in accordance with the Constitution.
Re-read the Constitution and you'll get a sense that the federal government is supposed to set the table for citizens to run their lives themselves. Somewhere along the way, the federal government has decided that it is going to be both mother and father to us all, providing for us and telling us what to do. We are not children and we already have parents enough, thank you.
Capice?
Don't tread on me.
loulou| 8.9.11 @ 11:42AM
No, the RINOs need to form a third party.
Get our of our party.
sharon| 8.9.11 @ 5:14PM
Today after reading a post re: MaCain and his"hobbit" label to the "tea" conservatives I wrote that given the fact that I live in a stste that only allows D or R and I already dissed mao-bama that I was "forced" to vote for ----SARAH PALIN!!!!
Have you considered| 8.9.11 @ 8:48AM
GJ, how can you possibly make that statement that somehow supporters Ms. O'Donnell insulted Pat Toomey? That frankly makes no sense to me.
By saying "Two candidates never should have split the vote" are you saying that Castle should not have faced a primary challenger?
And how do you propose to find a Rubio? And, What makes you think the GOP Establishment WANTS someone like Rubio? They don't.
Most of the Tea Party candidates went up against the GOP picked candidates, so are you saying that we should accept our fate, and hold our noses forevermore, and vote for RINOs?
I argue that This Is Exactly Why We Are Where We Are Today.
I don't consider the likes of M. Castle or L. Murkowski to be my ally.
gearjammer| 8.9.11 @ 9:17AM
Duh, Toomey is smarter, sharper and more credible. If, you don't see this-well, you are hopeless. And, it was two candidates in Nevada that made it a 3 person race, alllowing
Angle tp slip in-and then self immoliate and give us 6 more years of Reid . Businesses and sports teams find talent and so should the RNC.
Clint| 8.9.11 @ 10:15AM
We Supported Our Tea Party Candidate Pat Toomey Against Arlen Specter From The 2004 Showdown Up Until We Made Specter Cut & Run To The Democrats & Then We Beat Down The Little Admiral Joey Sestak. Then We Crossed The Pennsylvania Border & Supported A Gutsy Little Woman & Took Down Specter's RINO-CINO Buddy Micky Castle.
We Tea Party Patriots Bagged Two RINO-CINO's .
And, We'll Bag More RINO-CINO's In The 2012 GOP Primaries.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Ramping Up For The 2012 Elections.
Stand & Fight.
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 1:40PM
Good post, but you really gotta do something about that Shift key.
Elron H. | 8.9.11 @ 5:03PM
"Clint" is NOT a real Tea-Partier.
He's a fraud who is using a Tea Party group's website and affiliation to try and drive people to his own website and sell stuff.
Clint| 8.9.11 @ 5:56PM
You're A Total Nut Bag & A Slandering Liar Elron H.
What's Your Problem Anti-Tea Party/Israel Firster Fanatic Screwball ?
JO| 8.9.11 @ 7:30PM
Will you guys please leave us alone, or limit yourself to one insult per day. This is you
Clint and Elron H/Occam Tool/Dr.Right. This is tiresome and a bore reading the same old every day. Enough.
Clint| 8.9.11 @ 8:32PM
Say Hi To The Anti-Tea Party/Isreal Firsters For Us, Jo.
Oremus90| 8.10.11 @ 8:22AM
Clint: You inspire me to get more involved with the Tea Party. I have to admit, I support them but don't attend the meetings, so that's on me. If we are to ever get rid of RINO's, we all need to get involved. Thanks for being on the front lines for those who us who aren't but should be.
I for one, think that 2012 will be a watershed year for the Tea Party and conservative Americans against the insanity of liberalism. Obama and his supporters are going to be massacred at the polls. Can't wait to vote!
Dai Alanye | 8.9.11 @ 11:42AM
My personal opinion is that O'Donnell's loss was unfortunate, but the fact she ran Mike Castle out of the Republican Party was worth it in the long run, just as Benedict Arnold's defection was ultimately a plus for the Continentals.
Having said that, however, I am really tired of the fanaticism displayed so often by the Clint's and O'Stalin's on this forum. I'm glad they're on the same side as I am in most cases, but it's too bad they seem so ignorant of practical politics.
We need the RINOs if we can get them, because their votes count for just as much as ours. We need to oppose their policies, but we shouldn't oppose them personally. The conservative cause needs converts not enemies.
Anyone with meaningful experience in politics knows you win by making friends, not by making unnecessary enemies. (The key word, obviously, is "unnecessary." For principled people, making some enemies can't be avoided.)
TrueBlue| 8.9.11 @ 2:11PM
The problem with RINOs is that they can NEVER be counted on to vote with the Conservative Republicans. They're more concerned with hanging out with the DC crowd and their fancy parties than doing the job they were voted in to do, let alone sticking to what they said they would do while running for office. If they don't keep to their word, we don't need them.
Just because people expect politicians to lie, doesn't mean we should accept it. Vote them out and get people with principles who actually honor their word.
Dai Alanye | 8.9.11 @ 6:30PM
Just remember that perfect is the enemy of good. If you don't understand that you don't understand practical politics. Scott Brown, for instance, is far too weak a conservative for most of us, but in comparison with Martha Moakley he's a saint. You take the best you can get, not trading it in for a worse model.
Paul from SA| 8.9.11 @ 12:39PM
I think you've been influenced too much by the liberal media.
randyinrocklin| 8.10.11 @ 4:25PM
FU gearjammer....you and your ilk can go to h*ll...get your head back up your a$$ and STFU!
POST American| 8.9.11 @ 8:26AM
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MEANWHILE, the RED China USURY sellout
and TREASON OP switches into high gear.
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Roy| 8.9.11 @ 4:31PM
I'm losing track of which conspiracy we're on at this point.
Mimi| 8.9.11 @ 8:36AM
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Mimi| 8.9.11 @ 8:38AM
Sorry...computer jumps?
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 1:41PM
Stop giving it so much coffee.
R Martin| 8.9.11 @ 8:51AM
"...and the elites of the Delaware Republican Party..."
Elites? There are no elites in the Delaware Republican Party. The people who run the DRP couldn't organize a cake raffle at the county fair.
Hakeem Shabazz| 8.9.11 @ 9:00AM
The elites
Their record of accomplishement:
Six wars, 6000 miles from home
Defense spending 40 times what Brazil needs. A country that has never lost a war.
Entitlement ponzi schemes
Decimation of manufacturing.
Constitutionally protected mass murder of 55 million children.
Unending debts
Could these guys do worse?
Bo| 8.9.11 @ 11:48AM
And the anti-elites delivered us Chris Coons.
Anthony| 8.9.11 @ 9:04AM
Karl Rove, Bush's idiot savant. The man who told Bush the "new tone "would bring Bush the love and admiration from the leftist ruling class that Bush, as one of the noblesse oblige, felt he was entitled to.
Oh, but how wrong they were. As Rove and Bush turned more cheeks than a convention of prostitutes, the left demolished all the good that Bush attempted to do.
Bush allowed the demented Ds in congress to believe they could turn the most outlandish lie into truth because Bush would not defend himself.
So when dispicable bastards like John Kerry now call this economic depression brought to us by Obozo and Reid, the "Tea Party" decline, we have Washington acting as if Bush was still taking he heat. In fact I guess, he still is, as Obozo still involks his name.
But it's a new day, and Cs like O'Donnell, Bachmann, and Palin ain't playing. While Bohener and O'Connell hide as a result of their cowardice as the markets crash due to their botched legislation, we the people will rise.
Led by a C woman, we will re-take America. By Any Means Necessary!!!!
George S| 8.9.11 @ 9:11AM
On one hand, we fume that the 17th Amendment ruined things... on the other we complain at the unfair treatment of O'Donnell by the Ruling Class by sabotaging her campaign - a nationwide campaign.Well, it was the Ruling Class who selected senators prior to the 17th. Cannot have both the O'Donnell story and purity of Federalism.
Vern Crisler | 8.9.11 @ 11:10AM
This notion of a "ruling class" is Marx-speak. Why do conservatives use it?
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 1:40PM
Vern: TAS ran an article last summer entitled "America's Ruling Class - - And the Perils of Revolution," authored by Angelo Codevilla in which he popularized the notion of the Ruling Class versus the County Class.
It was probably the single-most commented on article that spectator.org ever ran -- and I'm sure it would make for even better reading today, given the slough of despond we're walking through this summer. I'm sure you can look through the archives here to find it.
When conservatives here use "ruling class" they're incorporating in the name the content and spirit of Codevilla's article, I would think, and may be unaware of its Marxist origins, or even, reflecting the understanding that our elites -- and Democrats in particular -- exhibit Marxist words and actions.
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 1:41PM
Edit:
Make that, "Country Class."
W| 8.9.11 @ 3:29PM
Darcy
The article was expanded to a book with the same name, Codevilla also wrote "Character of Nations," which is good.
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 3:58PM
"Character of Nations." I'll look into it on Amazon. Thank you for the lead, W.
Enrico Caruso| 8.9.11 @ 9:13AM
Why is it that Republicans can't direct their attentions to serious and real men and women to run this country? Palin, O'Donnell, Perry? Please! Barack Obama may be the most profoundly flawed choice for a President since the 19th century, but this country needs a real mind at the helm.
The only thing we need in a President right now is that he or she is smarter and more ethically-bound to what is good for this country than the rest of us. Book tours, reality shows, and playing governor in Texas (where the governor has NO power or influence) should not be the criteria upon which Presidents are chosen.
The country elected a "dream" in 2008 without asking whether the actual person they thought represented that "dream" was qualified to actually run a country. Let's not make that mistake again!
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 10:06AM
Their "dream" has become America's nightmare.
Dan Hirsch| 8.9.11 @ 10:20AM
Enrico,
If you cannot recognize the plain-spoken genius of Sara Palin and Christine O'Donnell's conservatism, you need to just shut up and sing, please.
Don't tread on me.
Seek| 8.9.11 @ 2:39PM
Plain-spoken genius? Say, what? These women can barely spell their name. I'm a Rightist, but stupidity isn't an option for us. O'Donnell's forthcoming "book," I am sure, will be nothing but a rehash of blandly aggressive Red State talking points that we've read a thousand times before.
I do think O'Donnell, at least, is strikingly attractive. She should be running for wife.
Truth to Power| 8.9.11 @ 7:26PM
The problem that you have is that every stupid idea foisted on the public has come from the elite class politicians with great credentials. The great credentials have been badly and maybe permanently damaged. The choice was Castle or O'Donnell. Then it was Coons or O'Donnell. Defend your choice. Tell me why you prefer Castle and then Coons. Anybody that thinks the choice was between O'Donnell and some ideal doesn't understand our political system and frankly is just making some vain pose. I prefer the best candidate not some theoretical entity.
Anthony| 8.9.11 @ 10:25AM
Enrico, you're way off key, and perhaps a prima donna of the Rs class yourself.
Your comments about O'Donnell and Palin smack of elitism. They have more guts, brains, and conservatives values than your entire RINO establishment.
We've seen this opera too many times. The fat lady is about to sing for the last time if we don't take our country back.
loulou| 8.9.11 @ 11:45AM
Enrico, you do not belong in a conservative party. Get out and take your RINOs with you.
Teaghan| 8.9.11 @ 11:51AM
Sarah Palin for President. She will kick obama's tired skinny behind.
Anthony| 8.9.11 @ 3:10PM
I hope so because the Obozo team have announced, without a hint of shame, that they intend to go after whomever is the R candidate. There it is, right out in the open, and all the Rs can do is say, oh well, what can we do in return?Romeny will do a McCain and the election will be lost.
Sarah would tear Obozo a new one!! This election is really like two kings fighting to see who is the victor, while their armies stand and watch. Losers lose their country.
We can't afford another male RINO with a dull blade, we need a woman who will kick ass!!!!
DEConservative | 8.9.11 @ 9:21AM
O'Donnell stood up and slew Goliath in the face of overwhelming odds. She showed the TEA Party that we do NOT have to settle for the handpicked elitist RINO. Had it not been for Tokyo Rove, Tom "Dogcatcher" Ross and a handful of other Castle friends, she would be the Senator from Delaware and her story is one that really, all TEA Party supporters should read.
And be sure to continue to follow her because she isn't backing down from the elites. She's taking on Soros and his heavily funded CREW organization for their lies and violations and she's not afraid to tackle to tough tasks. God Bless her.
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 1:45PM
"Tokyo Rove" is a great description of the weasel (with apologies to the furry variety of weasel everywhere).
Ken in Tyler| 8.9.11 @ 9:40AM
The Republican establishment has proven itself to be just as corrupt and devoid of principle as the most liberal Dems. Here in Texas we have two primo examples of establishment compromisers as Senators. And I can think of no President who resided in Texas who was worth a flip.
Now, the conservatives are all atwitter over the imminent announcement of another Texan establishment RINO for President. I'm here to say that he will betray the principles of Liberty just as badly as the last three disasters we Texans sent to Washington. We must do better.
Outstanding article btw.
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 10:09AM
I'm with you, Ken in Tyler: Perry is a disaster waiting to happen.
John Navratil| 8.9.11 @ 12:57PM
Perry? Romney? Perry? Romney? If that's the choice, we've lost a real opportunity. The only attraction I see to Perry is that I think he has a better shot at beating Obama than Romney does.
Amjean| 8.9.11 @ 9:42AM
As time progresses and more information comes out, I am having a profound new respect for this woman.
Karl Rove shot himself in the foot with his spoiled brat tantrum regarding her primary win. Nothing
he states mean anything any more. And John
Cronyn needs to be defeated.
Seek| 8.9.11 @ 2:41PM
Christine O'Donnell has a long history of unpaid bills and foolish comments. Rove was right to roil. She might make a good mayor of Dewey Beach one day.
W| 8.9.11 @ 3:30PM
unpaid bills and foolish comments, sounds like our Prez and Vic Prez
Gary| 8.9.11 @ 9:56AM
This woman's too good for the Senate! Yes I wish she had won, but why would somebody with this moxie want to associate herself with that gang of liars, cheats and sanctimonious scumbags?
LarryK| 8.9.11 @ 10:02AM
The problems with Christine O'Donnell are: 1) she's never held a job of any real significance for any considerable period of time; 2) she has no real record of accomplishment in business, politics or any other endeavor; and 3) yes, she filed an outrageous, trumped-up sexual discrimination suit which was laughed out of court - something for which any left-wing candidate would rightly be excoriated.
I don't care if her positions happen to agree with mine - there is a certain threshold of achievement you need to pass if you want to become a US Senator. To say that Christine O. falls short of this threshold is like saying Gary Coleman is not quite tall enough to play in the NBA - she is a non-entity, who has no business even thinking she's fit for the office.
Let me emphasize this has nothing to do with gender or the left's well-known mendacious campaigns to brand any conservative woman as a moron - they were dead wrong about Sarah Palin, for example, who is whip-smart, savvy and shrewder than almost male politician out there. But sometimes a cigar really is a cigar, and someone who appears unqualified and out of her depth really is. If Christine O'Donnell wants a career in politics, she should start by running for her school board or maybe even mayor of her town. At this stage of her uneventful life, a US Senator she ain't.
John Navratil| 8.9.11 @ 10:28AM
LarryK,
Perhaps you are right, but Sen. Al Franken comes to mind as an example of what are considered qualifications in some corners of the globe.
Without giving O'Donnell any undeserved credit, I'd prefer her over either of Texas' senators.
Occam's Tool| 8.9.11 @ 1:23PM
Ah, John, but Franken graduated from HAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRVAAAAAHHHHDDDDD. (Sarcasm)
LarryK| 8.9.11 @ 1:56PM
I'm not about to defend Al Franken, of all people - the State of Minnesota should be deeply ashamed - but two wrongs don't make a right.
Bo| 8.9.11 @ 11:52AM
I'm not sure O'Donnell could even get appointed to her local Planning Commission. We can do better.
Teaghan| 8.9.11 @ 11:53AM
This woman is NO Sarah Palin, and Gary Coleman is dead. She as you said, needs to run for some local elections and learn how to speak without sounding like she's still 17.
Jonathon Moseley| 8.9.11 @ 12:36PM
LarryK, you are calling the Republican National Committee and Concerned Women for America not a job of real significance? Simply because you are not informed about someone's background is not their failing, it is your weakness.
Seek| 8.9.11 @ 2:43PM
She worked for CWFA for maybe a year. And it's a crappy organization.
John Fedor| 8.10.11 @ 2:28AM
And just what in h**l do you call the Senate???
Occam's Tool| 8.9.11 @ 1:22PM
Qualification Of Barack Obama to Be US Senator Larry K by your criterion: Crickets chirping.
LarryK| 8.9.11 @ 2:01PM
Obama was a State Senator for I think 12 years - that qualifies.
Yes, Concerned Women of America is a nothingburger - and what role did she have at RNC, and how long was she there? I checked out her resume when she was a candidate and was completely underwhelmed. She is really not a serious person and was a horrible candidate - and I am a supporter of the Tea Party but that doesn't excuse it from backing credible candidates.
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 7:14PM
"Obama was a State Senator for I think 12 years -- that qualifies."
Yeah. And wasn't it great that during his Illinois State Senatorial gig he voted not once, but four times -- and with impassioned pleas on the floor of the state senate -- to deny life to babies born alive of botched abortions.
What a guy.
irish19| 8.10.11 @ 3:24PM
Too true. Most of the time, he sat there with one thumb up his ass & the other one poised over the "Present" button.
This somehow qualifies him to be POTUS? I think not.
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 7:51PM
Aside from your #3, that sounds like a description of the poseur in chief.
Redstateboy| 8.9.11 @ 10:34AM
I HAD respect for John Cornyn - now...? He's just an idiot.
Elgordo| 8.9.11 @ 10:48AM
To COUNTER the UNFAIR DEMONIZATION of the TEA PARTY
The Dems are trying to demonize the Teaparty with generalized, nebulous attacks on them as terrorists
A Teaparty SpokesPerson(s) should clearly list the 4 or 5 itms the Teaparty wants in a discussion of the Debt Negotiations to upgrade our S&P Rating back to AAA
Then demand to know what's terrorist about these demands.
Also, the Teaparty should point out that it was the underlying policies of Obama not the contentiousness of the Debt Ceiling debate that got us to the brink of insolvency.
SmallDog| 8.9.11 @ 11:15AM
"She has studied at Oxford..."
She took a University of Phoenix class on the Oxford Campus. That's a far cry from studying at Oxford.
Those are the types of distortions about her record that kept her from winning the general in Delaware. No one cares if you're a college graduate, but everyone cares if you claim to be a college graduate through two election cycles and then the people find out you're not.
Wayne | 8.9.11 @ 11:33AM
What's wrong with the University of Phoenix?
Seek| 8.9.11 @ 2:45PM
There's plenty wrong with a degree from the University of Phoenix if ones passes it off as an Oxford degree. It's called misrepresentation.
Wayne | 8.9.11 @ 4:56PM
We don't know that.
SmallDog| 8.9.11 @ 6:12PM
Yes, we do know that, it came out during the 2010 campaign that she was claiming to have attended classes at Oxford, she did not.
Either she's still telling people that she studied at Oxford or Jeffrey Lord is making things up about her to make her look better. Pick one.
John Fedor| 8.10.11 @ 2:37AM
If I'm not mistaken didn't "Slick Willie" go to Oxford? The school of hard knocks is better preparation than any college, in my humble opinion.
SmallDog| 8.10.11 @ 4:57PM
Like I said, a college degree isn't necessary, but if you pretend to have a college degree through 2 previous Senate campaigns and then the people find out you don't really have one, that's a problem.
And that's how you lose by 17% to a tax and spend Marxist.
loulou| 8.9.11 @ 11:46AM
Snob.
SmallDog| 8.9.11 @ 12:02PM
No one cares whether or not a candidate is a college graduate, but EVERYONE cares if the candidate claimed to have a college degree in 2006 & 2008 and in 2010 the people find out that the candidate did not have a degree.
There's nothing wrong with the University of Phoenix, but claiming that taking a UofP course is "studying at Oxford" won't fly with voters.
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 1:49PM
You're kidding, right? Obviously you're not talking about the voters who -- with the aid of the commie press -- ignored the countless flaws in Obama's resume, not to mention the fact that immediately upon assuming office he had all his official papers and credentials locked up; will this be ignored by his adoring idol worshippers in 2012?
So are you saying, SmallDog, that the Democrats can DO almost anything or nothing at all as long as they're good liars and have certain other, shall we say, intangible characteristics of a genetic variety?
SmallDog| 8.9.11 @ 6:16PM
No, I'm saying we need to be BETTER than lying, liberal Democrats or else we LOSE by wide margins, exactly the way O'Donnell did in Delaware.
skip| 8.9.11 @ 4:09PM
LargePileOfDogShit
Prove Obama has graduated from a college or university, any college or university, even one as prestigious as the University of Phoenix.
Idiot.
RCV| 8.9.11 @ 5:33PM
You can check with Columbia and Harvard if you have any doubt, Skippy. They'll confirm it for you.
skip| 8.9.11 @ 8:49PM
Well well.
The tally, head to head, currently stands at:
skip 64*
RCV 0
( * scorekeeping stopped - mercy rule - at 64)
Trying to get the goose egg off the board are we?
Dumb old George W. somehow won over supersharp intellectuals Al the protector and John the hero. Somehow dumb old George W. had a higher gpa than both of those two supersharp intellectuals. None of the three ran on not only transparent government, but the most transparent government ever. To get on the scoreboard, can you tell me if dumb old George W.'s gpa is better than the supersharp anointed one who leads the most transparent government ever, to give dumb old George W. the ultimate trifecta?
SmallDog| 8.9.11 @ 6:21PM
So because Obama's resume sucks it's OK for the GOP to run shitty candidates, too?
That's an interesting theory, but in practice your theory was crushed in the general election by 17 points.
We need to run BETTER candidates than the Democrats, if we did that in 2008 instead of running McCain maybe we could have kept the Presidency.
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 7:54PM
Running better candidates means NOT letting the media decide who the Republican candidate should be. Doing that is what gave us McCain and what will give us Romney if we are not vigilant. Or do you think a RINO like Romney or Huntsman would actually have a chance. If so, I have a land deal for you. And a bridge.
skip| 8.9.11 @ 8:37PM
'Intellectuals' with academic credentials up the wazoo have been killing this country for a century, dating to Wilson at least.
Your comments had the flavor of hypocrisy. Perhaps if you had included some perspective with respect to liberals your posts would not have seemed so conservative bashing.
Nick| 8.9.11 @ 11:28AM
Although I wish Miss O'Donnell had become the junior Senator from Delaware, by defeating the stinking liberal Castle, she did much good.
The damage that the RINO Castle would've done far outweighs the limited damage the Constitutionally challenged Coons can inflict.
This is why all of the bums, from both parties, who have been their longer than 12 years need to be RETIRED.
SmallDog| 8.9.11 @ 12:05PM
Chris Coons is trying to repeal DOMA, Castle voted for DOMA. There are major differences between the two, and between a liberal Democrat and a moderate Republican I'll take the Republican any day.
You'll be thinking about that when Obama gets to put another justice on the USSC.
Nick| 8.9.11 @ 1:23PM
SmallDog,
Oh, yes, I'm sure that the stinking liberal (not moderate) Castle would never have voted with the EIGHT Republicans who voted to confirm Sotomayor: Alexander - TN, Bond - MO, Collins - ME, Grahmnesty - SC (who should lose his job next year,) Gregg - NH, Lugar - IN (who should lose his job next year,) Snowe - ME, and Voinovich - OH.
And, I'm positive that the RINO Castle would never have joined the FIVE Republicans who voted to confirm Kagan: Collins - ME, Grahmnesty - SC, Gregg - NH, Lugar - IN, and Snowe - ME.
There are few differences between liberal Republicans (RINOs) and democrats. Those who convince themselves that there are, live in fantasy land.
This is why Castle is good friends with O'Biden, and, Orrin Hatch was good friends with Teddy 'the Swimmer' Kennedy. They have been in D.C. way too long. FIRE THEM!
SmallDog| 8.9.11 @ 6:24PM
I would rather have Mike Castle in the Senate voting against trillion dollar stimulus packages, universal healthcare and repealing DOMA than Chris Coons any day of the week.
Truth to Power| 8.9.11 @ 10:09PM
You need to get your time line straight, smart boy.
Nick| 8.9.11 @ 11:30PM
SmallDog,
You really believe the stinking liberal Castle would have voted against O'BamaCare if he hadn't had Miss O'Donnell as his opponent in the primary?
If so, can I sell you some beach front property?
By the way, the RINO Castle voted for President Bush's stimulus give-away.
Besides, you're beating a dead horse, or, representative, as the case may be. RINO Castle was retired by the good people of Delaware. Good riddance, Mikey-boy!
SmallDog| 8.10.11 @ 5:02PM
Yes, I believe Castle would have voted against Obamacare, he did it before the 2010 race even heated up, and he was against HillaryCare in the 1990's. He's always been against universal healthcare. And are you really comparing Bush's little stimulus package that had the backing of a majority of Republicans to Obama's trillion dollar stimulus package?
Laughable.
And if I recall correctly, O'Donnell was "retired by the good people of Delaware" too.
Nick| 8.11.11 @ 12:21AM
SmallDog,
So, are you interested in buying some beach front property?
O'BamaCare was passed in 2009, hence, the 2010 race had already started. The stinking liberal Castle would've voted for President Downgrade's stimulus, too, if not, again, for Miss O'Donnell.
Yes, I wrote that RINO Castle was retired by the good people of Delaware, i.e., conservatives. To be retired, you have to have the job in the first place. Miss O'Donnell was defeated by the democrats and RINOs, i.e., the bad people of Delaware.
In the end, Mikey-boy is gone, and, has to sit around and put up with his whiny grandkids visiting all the time!
And that is a good thing.
SmallDog| 8.12.11 @ 7:31PM
The Obama Stimulus package was passed in February, 2009. Christine O'Donnell wasn't a candidate at that point, so she had no bearing on Castle's vote against the Stimulus.
And Castle has a long record of being opposed to universal health care. He was against Hillary Care in 1993, he pushed for tort reform and buying insurance across state lines.
I understand the need for some of you to continue lying about Castle's record because you were so wrong about O'Donnell, but it's getting pathetic.
Jonathon Moseley| 8.9.11 @ 11:32AM
Larry K: Christine O'Donnell *WON* the only hearing that occurred in her legitimate, well-founded lawsuit against the Intercollegiate Studies Institute.
It was not "laughed out of court." When ISI threw everything they had, they LOST in the only decision that was held.
ISI broke the law and someone at ISI should have gone to jail. It is a shame that Christine did not have enough money to carry the lawsuit to a conclusion, where she would have won millions of dollars, and stopped misconduct by employers. We have to uphold the law.
LarryK| 8.9.11 @ 2:05PM
That's not what I've heard and what's been reported - she withdrew her claim, and as an employer who has been subject to an absolutely bogus, trumped-up claim of sexual discrimination by a fired employee, let me tell you that NEVER happens if there is one iota of support for the sexual discrimination claim. Employers will settle almost any bogus claim just to avoid the hassles and distractions of a potential court case. The fact that Christine O Donnell walked away from her claim, with nothing, is a sure sign it was a crock.
Jonathon Moseley| 8.10.11 @ 4:30PM
I am quite sure you heard many false things. However, I was the lawyer who wrote the original 2005 lawsuit against ISI and worked with the Delaware lawyer that Christine O"Donnell eventually found to represent her.
The Delaware lawyer who signed an amended version of the lawsuit is one of the top corporate lawyers in Delaware, one of the top 2 most respected employment law lawyers in Delaware.
He said that Christine's case was the strongest case he had ever seen of employment discrimination.
However, the Delaware lawyer wanted $20,000 from Christine for the costs of depositions, court reporters, experts, etc.
Christine did not have the money to fund the lawsuit.
However, before that point, ISI tried all the same arguments in a hearing before the employment commission. The judge shot ISI down and ruled in Christine O'Donnell's favor.
So ISI tried all their evidence and arguments already -- and lost.
Jonathon Moseley| 8.9.11 @ 11:34AM
This page would not let me post a link to Free Republic
Lawyers for the Delaware Republican Party and the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC), Michael Toner and Brandis Zehr, now face a complaint before the DC Bar for false statements and a frivolous September 9, 2010, complaint against Christine O'Donnell and the Tea Party Express.
The Federal Election Commission is also being asked to update its "First General Counsel Report" with a "SECOND General Counsel Report" correcting the obvious error launched into circulation by Michael Toner and Brandis Zehr.
The rules governing attorneys in D.C., the District of Columbia Rules of Professional Conduct, require attorneys to take affirmative action to CORRECT false statements previously made to a "tribunal" such as the FEC.
Thus, DEGOP attorneys Toner and Zehr are violating the rules of the D.C. Bar by failing to correct the falsehood as much as by initially filing the false allegation in September. (The FEC constitutes a "tribunal" when it is formally deciding complaints about alleged violations of FEC regulations.)
On September 9, 2010, a complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) was filed against Christine O'Donnell and the Tea Party Express by the Delaware Republican Party (DEGOP) -- then under different management led by Tom Ross.
The complaint against Christine O'Donnell and the Tea Party Express falsely claimed that Evan Quietsch was the Press Secretary for the O'Donnell campaign, and that -- because of that -- Evan Quietsch's frequent contacts with Tea Party Express was coordination between Friends of Christine O'Donnell and the Tea Party Express.
Tom Ross at the DEGOP obviously falsely communicated to Michael Toner and Brandis Zehr that Evan Quietsch was the "Press Secretary" for Friends of Christine O'Donnell -- when he never was. The error probably began with the DEGOP, not with their lawyers. Yet the lawyers are responsible for the contents of the complaint even if misinformed by their client.
Ken (Old Texican)| 8.9.11 @ 11:40AM
I*t's the Primaries folks...the Primaries.
We go0tta' find patriots and back-em.
irish19| 8.9.11 @ 1:51PM
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!
Johnny H| 8.9.11 @ 2:31PM
Right said, Old Texican... I've been working my circle of friends and associates to get them to understand the importance of the primaries. I mean, that's where the decisions are made as to WHO will be running in the general election, fer chrissakes...
darcy| 8.9.11 @ 4:06PM
Maybe you could work your circle of friends to become involved as Precinct Committeemen. Check out, if you're of a mind, ColdWarrior's blogs over at redstate.com for some inspiration on really getting involved at the grassroots level; this is where conservatives need to -- and can -- nudge out the Old Guard that's responsible for delivering to us people like John McCain.
DaveS| 8.9.11 @ 1:52PM
"'Sniffed Castle to Fox's Carl Cameron in what he clearly thought a swipe: "She's got no money; she's never held office… all she has is her principles.'"
If you do not have a living or a profession to fall upon after an electoral defeat, you tend to make statements like this. Castle was just a whore - taking support from ANYWHERE that would further HIS career.
I sent money to Christine in 2008. I am likely to do so again. My principals to support her principles
John Jarrell | 8.9.11 @ 4:52PM
I like Christine O'Donnel and supported her campaign to the extent I could. But, I had absolutely no idea of her depth and the scope of her accomplishments. As far as I'm concerned, surviving in her circumstances was a major accomplishment, let alone getting an education and obtaining such profressional scope. I look forward to reading //Troublemaker// and to supporting her again when she runs.
Thank you, Mr. Lord, for reintroducing me to this remarkable person.
Erling| 8.9.11 @ 9:22PM
Jeffrey Lord does it again. It's no wonder President Reagan hired the man.
POST American| 8.9.11 @ 11:09PM
"----Can you imagine what's going to
happen across the western world as controlled
demolition is rolled in?"
-ALEX JONES
(yesterday)
And JUST IN, eyewitnesses reporting this
latest British violence is FREEMASON sourced,
much like the recent OBVIOUSLY set up
Norway horror.
In short, MORE 'benny violence' at the service
of 'the agenda'.
MEANWHILE, David Rockefeller, George Soros
and Lord Rothchild remain, in the shadows,
and very much at large.
And once again, for the mind challenged:
Globalism = Monopoly = TREASON =
Depravity = Ultimate TREASON = ABOMINATION
= EUGENICS =the wrath of God
"We ARE using MASSIVE third world
immigration to destroy British culture
beyond repair, once and for all ---FOREVER."
-Fmr PM TONY BLAIR
(Daily Mail interview)
--------------AND, of course, a 'brought up'
'on board' ---Glow--BALL ---ist.
DO clean out your churches kiddies.
REALLY
TRULY
-------------------NO MORE JOKES---------------------
Brian| 8.9.11 @ 11:19PM
The establishment (Repub & Dem) were scared to death of an outsider getting elected in Conn. Both parties get big cash from the insurance industry centered there. In return the insurance industry gets $Billions in tax favors that locks out any real competition. Try competing against a company that gets billions off their tax bill every year.
WC| 8.10.11 @ 12:49AM
You are obviously a big fan.............. So am I. Conservative women and conservative blacks will bring the country back to reality. The media has already destroyed the white guy. After they destroy women and blacks who do they go after?
CalMark| 8.10.11 @ 10:30AM
Under relentless attack by her own party, O'Donnell lost by 16 percentage points. The Official RINO Choice for governor lost by 36 points. Makes you think, doesn't it?
Immediately following her primary victory, O'Donnell was too slow off the mark. She didn't fire back with ads when the GOP goons and their Democrat buddies trashed her. With several million from talk radio listener donations, she had enough for a quick response. After three major campaigns, she should have known and done better.
In the end, though, O'Donnell was politically fragged by RINOs. A flip of roughly 25,000 votes would have made her a U.S. Senator. We can safely blame Karl Rove and the other poisonous RINOs for at least a very large chunk of that, if not all of it and more.
Jonathon Moseley| 8.10.11 @ 4:20PM
I agree with you, but one point to consider. O'Donnell ended the primary with only $20,000 in the bank. Although donations started to come in the next day, the credit card companies do not hand that money over right away. They don't give you $2 million in cash until the bills settle up with the credit card customers (donors). So really O'Donnell's campaign did not have any real money until around September 30, which is one reason why the check from the NRSC was such a big deal the next day.
Bill Foley| 8.10.11 @ 1:44PM
from Bill Foley
I urge all those in the Tea Party movement to read National Suicide: How Washington Is Destroying the American Dream from A to Z. by Martin Gross, who has studied the federal government in greater detail than anyone. He has concrete suggestions based on irrefutable facts on how to reform the federal government into a more efficient entity while doing no harm to the common good. The Tea Party cannot advocate much-needed change with just platitudes; Martin Gross gives a concrete platform of specifics.
Micheal Morgan| 8.10.11 @ 6:02PM
Go Sister GO. Thank you for being a person of honor. Most of us made idiotic acts as teenagers, isn't that normal? The true test of character is only seen in trial. You demonstrated courage of conviction that I hope will one day be used in American Law Schools.
jesse| 8.10.11 @ 11:03PM
I haven't seen or heard much about Karl lately, and good riddance I say.
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jesse| 8.10.11 @ 11:04PM
The Tea Party cannot advocate much-needed change with just platitudes; Martin Gross gives a concrete platform of specifics.
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kiltmaker| 8.12.11 @ 5:54PM
I applaud her for paying off her college debt. My son is still paying his off, and it is a beast to do if you have to do it yourself.
Also, anyone that has had a run in with the IRS, and come out on the other side is much better than the tax cheats like we currently have in this administration. She would probably also be an advocate for reigning in the IRS.
And she would have understood the home mortgage melt down, having gone through a foreclosure herself.
But most of all, she was abandoned by the elite Republicans. She wasn't one of their's. Of all the people that needed help from the RNC and the Senate Committee, it was her. And that is why she lost. Not because she wasn't a quality person, but because she was one of the in crowd.
Sort of reminds me of another woman on the national stage.......What was her name?........
Sarah... something or other........
Goodfinger | 8.16.11 @ 9:28AM
It's still funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5wV7mjbDRA
ted lasky| 8.20.11 @ 2:57PM
She's a complete dingbat in my opinion, and not worthy of two words in any publication. Be 'proud' of her? Only if you're a hater, a sexual neurotic, or someone who likes laws that restrict our freedoms...in other words, a conservative or tea party fool.