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Incivility at the Tea Party

By George Neumayr on 8.4.11 @ 6:08AM

The establishment’s panic at a broadened debate.

In 2009, the Obama administration dropped the phrase “the war on terror,” revealing a reluctance on its part to call terrorists “terrorists.” The liberal establishment shows no such reluctance when describing Tea Partiers. “[T]hese Tea Party guys are, like, strapped with dynamite,” said former Obama administration official Steven Rattner. New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman calls them the “Hezbollah faction” of the GOP.

Others described them as muggers, carjackers, jihadists, suicide bombers, and hostage takers. The only pause in this stream of invective came when these critics of the Tea Party welcomed Gabby Giffords back to the House of Representatives. The inimitable Joe Biden, who had agreed with these descriptions of the Tea Party earlier in the day, reminded Giffords of his “two craniotomies” and declared them “both members of the cracked head club.” Perhaps Biden offered other thoughtful words of comfort to Giffords but those weren’t recorded.

No sooner had the pleasantries with Giffords ended than liberals resumed their attacks on the Tea Party. The ferocity of the criticism, were it directed toward any other group, would probably lead liberals to call for a new hate crime category. Just last week, the Eugene Robinsons of the press were blaming the Norway shootings in part on what they see as the intemperate rhetoric of the right about militant Islam.

They saw no irony in savaging the Tea Party, amidst misty-eyed tributes to Giffords, because civility for them is not a moral concept but an ideological one. “Civility” is synonymous with the advancement of liberalism, so nothing they could possibly say about Tea Partiers, no matter how nasty, conflicts with it. On the other hand, Tea Partiers, according to this logic, are inherently uncivil for refusing to argue within the narrow parameters of debate set up by the establishment.

That in itself is enough to make Tea Partiers the “Wahhabis of American government,” as Chris Matthews put it. There is no need to engage their arguments, of course. Could they be right? Could the debt-ceiling deal be a non-solution that lulls America into more dangerous complacency? These questions are impermissible; refusal to accept the bipartisan consensus alone establishes their guilt. Notice, however, that the establishment media was careful not to describe the Democrats who opposed the compromise in such harsh terms. New York Times columnist Paul Krugman wrote that the Tea Partiers had in effect said, “We’ll blow up the world economy unless you give us exactly what we want.” But more Democrats than Tea Partiers ended up voting against the final bill. Krugman himself opposed the final bill, so presumably he was ready to “blow up” the world economy too.

The assumption underlying these insults is that the Tea Party harbors an extreme and lawless ideology. In reality, it merely proposes fiscal prudence and respect for the law and Constitution. The recklessness in U.S. politics comes not from the Tea Party but from the establishment as it runs up trillions of dollars in debt.

The hysterical descriptions of the Tea Party are a measure of the establishment liberals’ panic at a broadened debate and more constrained spending. They prefer the good old days when debt could skyrocket without dispute (it had been lifted over seventy times without debate, they pouted, as if that were a good thing). They find it outrageous that a group without ties to special interests would threaten the federal monies accorded theirs.

All the terms of invective used against the Tea Party more accurately capture the banditry and indulgence of the establishment. What is “responsible” about spending money that the U.S. government doesn’t have? What is “balanced” about running up debt at a slightly lower rate?

The only compliment the Tea Party has received from the establishment is a backhanded one: Obama and company are now congratulating themselves for making “tough choices” they would never have made without it.

About the Author

George Neumayr, a contributing editor to The American Spectator, is co-author, with Phyllis Schlafly, of the new book, No Higher Power: Obama’s War on Religious Freedom.

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Negro X| 8.4.11 @ 6:29AM

Prissy Matthews is a prime mover in the left -wing hate propganda machine. On a daily basis he has been caught lying or making non-sense to support his homo-erotic fantasies of obama. He needs help, his constant sexual innuendo about obama is beyond weird. I believe that when he was hiding from the draft in Africa had a string of black homosexual lovers who used him as a woman.

Groad| 8.4.11 @ 6:41AM

I wouldn't be that demeaning to the poor dimwitted guy. He's just a media lapdog whose one desire is to hump Obama's leg daily.

Tina B| 8.4.11 @ 9:01AM

Much better, thanks,

righthook | 8.4.11 @ 1:51PM

You've got that right! How many people even watch his show? 30? 40? He's pathetic...

Topper| 8.5.11 @ 4:48AM

Boehner and McConnell must go !
Only 66 Conservatives in the House...
pretty sad...

Gary B| 8.4.11 @ 7:06AM

Honestly, I believe their motivation is to remain in good standing in their DC cocktail party circuuit. The more people like Matthews spit out clever or cute labels for the Tea Party, the higher they are on their liberal pecking order. Their gratification? To get high fives as they enter the room.

Lately, the game has changed. Mr. Neumayr is correct. They're now in panic mode and behaving more like cornered animals. As their circle of influence decreases in size, they are talking to each other more and more.

Edward White| 8.4.11 @ 9:43AM

Tea Partiers are right-wing rabble--mostly uneducated Southerners-- who embarrass traditional Republicans like myself.

Tea Partiers are driven mostly by hate and spite, and my Republican friends and I denounce them at every opportunity.

Call me a "country club Republican" if you like, but that's what I am, and I will never vote for a Republican candidate who kowtows to the Tea Partiers' redneck and racist (yes, racism is part of their platform) rhetoric, a rhetoric so reckless that it's destroying the GOP.

daddio| 8.4.11 @ 9:52AM

Oh Ed,

Go back to to country club and have another drink...

LiveFreeOrDie| 8.4.11 @ 10:17AM

Nice try troll. Please point to which part of the Tea Party "platform" is racist please? The only one spouting bigotry is you, i.e. "redneck" comment. You are the typical two-sided liberal. Half liar, half hypocrite.

tonypal| 8.4.11 @ 10:51AM

Guys like Ed exist all over the internet. They come to sites like this and make all kinds of insane comments. When challenged, they disappear. My advice is to ignore them. They're trying to get a rise out of us. We shouldn't take the bait. Instead, let the Eds of the world sit around in the basement of their mom's home with their pants around their ankles, alternating between drive by postings and porn sites (well, mostly porn sites - a guy's gotta have a hobby).

Dixie-do-dah| 8.4.11 @ 1:12PM

"...typical two-sided liberal. Half liar, half hypocrite." Man, that's got to be the best line I've heard decribing those idiot Kool-aid drinkers. Although, I might suggest adding half-a$$ed.

Fumigator| 8.4.11 @ 1:48PM

Sing it, Dixie-doo-doo

"I wish I was in the land of doo-doo . . ."

Mr. C. C. Calhoun| 8.4.11 @ 1:51PM

Sir or Madam, you desecrate the serene dignity of my illustrious Southern ancestors by parodying our precious and sacred anthem.

May the Lord damn you to hell.

Margie| 8.4.11 @ 1:52PM

No need to use cuss words.

Joey| 8.4.11 @ 7:22PM

Now that is funny.

WRTolkas| 8.4.11 @ 9:32PM

Dear LiveFreeOrDie,

Excellent observations and comment. I'm glad you are on our side and edward white is on their's.

Indy| 8.4.11 @ 10:24AM

Have you actually sat down and talked to a local Tea Party group? If you haven't, give it a try before you taint the whole movement as hateful. I don't agree with everyone I meet who is part of the Tea Party but I listen to what they have to say and offer my solutions. I disagree with your comments. I am tired of being called a racist or an uneducated person, you know nothing about me. Why is fiscal responsibility viewed as an extreme / hateful position? Do you believe in our Constitution? I do and I think it's worth defending...is that extreme or hateful?

BTW, I am an unaffiliated voter because I am frustrated with both parties...many of the people I have met at Tea Party events are independents, I have even met Democrats so we are not all GOP.

Doorgunner| 8.4.11 @ 10:37AM

Somehow I'm envisions Ted White as Judge Smails in Caddyshack. Well done, o trollish thespian.

Look, just the other day the Koch boys and I were enjoying a bit of Oban Cask Strength in the clubhouse after eighteen holes. We discussed the slowly coalescing collective media effort to again place a RINO in the mind of true conservatives as the only electable proposition. Our concluding chuckle stemmed from Charles' observation the manipulations would have to appear much more "organic" in this go around, and that we would shortly be hearing from all sorts of inarticulate and intellectually ham-fisted WFB's in various comment threads.

And here you are.

Nick| 8.4.11 @ 11:28AM

Doorgunner,

Spalding Smails: "I wanna hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milk shake. I want potato chips--"

Judge Smails: "YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT!!"

I'm sure Mr. White has his own Spalding to deal with. And, I'm sure he has his own Mrs. Crane, too:

Carl Spackler: "Ooh Mrs. Crane, you're a little monkey woman, you know that. You're a little monkey woman. You're lean, and you're mean, and you're not too far between either, I bet, are ya'."

What Ed doesn't realize, is that he should be embarrassed, for being a RINO.

RichTex| 8.4.11 @ 10:48AM

The modern (Liberal Establishment) definition of "rascist": A conservative winning an argument with a liberal.

Ground Control| 8.4.11 @ 10:51AM

Mr. White,
I wouldn't call you a "country club Republican." I would call you an "idiot." Most of what you say is not only wrong, it is ridiculous. And your assertion of "racism" is as ludicrous as it is insulting. You sir, are an ass.

Todd S| 8.4.11 @ 11:25AM

I won't call you a "country club Republican", I will call you a little prick ahole because that is what you are. I think you are lying anyways, you voted for Obama am I correct?

Patrick Slamon| 8.4.11 @ 12:17PM

Me thinks Mr. White is engaging in satire.

DaveD| 8.4.11 @ 12:20PM

I was a life long Republican up to George W's reckless spending and refusal to hold Congress in check, when I cut up my card and told the RNC to take a hike. The Tea Party, such as it is, is the most refreshing thing I've seen come to the Republican party since the 80's. I personally will not vote for a candidate that doesn't acknowledge the Tea Party as a positive force.

David| 8.4.11 @ 12:33PM

I actually am a northern country club republican and I agree with the tea party in all aspects. I am no more racist than Obama. Most of by playing buddies are tea partiers and none have demonstrated even the slightest amount of racism.

I have no doubt that some who agree with the tea party are racists, but the tea party ideals are not racist.

So, I have no idea what you have been smoking, but it is quite toxic.

Stormzeye| 8.4.11 @ 1:37PM

As a proud Tea Partier I deny the racist accusation!
I hate Obama's white side as much as I hate his black side.

Bruce| 8.4.11 @ 2:05PM

I find that some of the worst influence on the Right side of the debate are those that jump up out of their seat to deny their racism. That's not to say they are in fact racist people, but rather that they are jumping right into the arms of leftist PC types by responding to the dreaded 'R' word.

People need to seriously check themselves on this and NOT do what our enemies want us to do. The worst racists in our country are, in fact, liberals. Especially white liberals. Just ask any non-white Conservative who opens email.

When someone can change your behavior and put you on the defensive just by saying a word, they own you, and you become a negative asset for the rest of us.

canuckistani| 8.4.11 @ 4:24PM

The best reaction is no reaction to knee-jerk racist buzzers.

I agree people in the limelight should be using their brains as they speak, but minor slurs and infractions should be ignored. We need to grow thicker skins in this country, or else all important speech will be drummed out of discourse.

The fact our pollsters continue to dissect opinions by race means it is relevant - otherwise the patrons of these polls would not buy them. It starts with us.

RPFAE| 8.4.11 @ 2:03PM

Aye, methinks you jest, just for giggles. Anyone who has attended a tea party event knows better than to believe this drivel. I am a member of a country club and the vice-chair of my county GOP. I have never heard any comments from my fellow GOPers like the ones you have made. I donated to a money bomb for the philosophical godfather of the modern day tea party on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party way before Rick stole the idea. The tea party may, in fact, be the saving grace of our republic. We're working on it.

soljerblue| 8.4.11 @ 8:10PM

Edward, my friend. I'm a proud Tea Party member who takes deep umbrage at your characterization of me and my fellow constitutionalists in such leftish ad hominem attacks.

I'm a retired broadcast journalist with over 40 years covering the decline of this country under liberal policies.

I hold a graduate degree in military and political history.

I'm a United States Navy veteran, a taxpayer, and a patriot.

Call me whatever names you like. You will not shut me up. I have earned the right to despise the likes of you and the establishment politicians of both parties. In fact, there are more every day who see through such phonies as yourself, and I promise you -- we are not going away.

Have a nice day.

William Wallace| 8.4.11 @ 10:20PM

Ed, We are the Tea Party and we're coming to throw you out of OUR party.

Oh I wish I was in the land of cotton, RINOs there are not forgotten look away, look away, look away, dixie land.

old white guy| 8.5.11 @ 5:58AM

ed. it is a strange man who cannot see the common sense behind the tea parties desire for freedom and smaller government.

Von| 8.5.11 @ 7:42AM

Go back under the bridge troll

doolittle| 8.5.11 @ 10:57PM

How very thoughtful to sign your own name MrWhite..if that actually is your name..now we'll know whose whine to skip over, should you appear here again...poor baby

azcIII| 8.21.11 @ 8:57PM

Well, bless your heart.

righthook | 8.4.11 @ 1:51PM

Cornered animals...that's perfect!

John2| 8.4.11 @ 4:03PM

The know they are going to lose everything. They also know why, that their own actions are the cause of the losses.

Putting myself in the left's position: if I had a communist dream, then I would be in double panic mode these days.

Timothy L. Pennell| 8.4.11 @ 8:32AM

You have to remember that, for the LEFT, this is their RELIGION. This is all they have. Think about it.
They HATE their own Country. They HATE our Founding Fathers. The single greatest minds, to meet in one room, since the days of ATHENS, and Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras, and Hippocrates.
They gave us a REPUBLIC. They put together a Grand Experiment that MEN could rule THEMSELVES, make their own decisions. Find their own way, unencumbered by an overbearing Central Government. They gave the World a BLUEPRINT for Self Rule. The Declaration of Independence. The U.S. Constitution.
And the Left HATES them, for it.
They Hate our Military. They do everything they can, to PREVENT Victory.
They are REPELLED by our place in the world, as it's Sole Superpower.
They don't believe in CHRIST, and they don't believe in GOD. They DO believe in the Infallibility of The STATE, and the RIGHT to Murder an Unborn Child in it's Mother's Womb.
They believe that a Boy, raised in Indonesia, in it's Muslim Schools and Mosques, who HIDES THE TRUTH about himself in a VAULT, has always surrounded himself with people who HATE THIS COUNTRY, and has never had a Job, IN HIS LIFE, will lead us to the Promised Land.
Let them talk. Let them spout their Venom. They only hurt themselves. People of good will can tell the difference between Criticism and HATE. Between Criticism and RACISM. Between Criticism and ANTI-SEMITISM.
THEY are the HATERS.
THEY are the RACISTS.
THEY are the ANTI-SEMITES.
How do I know?
I have EYES and EARS.

Gary B| 8.4.11 @ 9:06AM

Yes, let them talk. The more that panic sets in and the more they resort to name calling, the more pathetic they become. I expecially like it when they haul out that tired old tactic... the race card. I wish they would do that every day.

The more they screach, the more their own words can be used against them. For example, Sarah Palin's remark yesterday was a direct hit when she said something like that, "If Obama thought we actually were terrorists, he would want to hang out with us."

PAUL| 8.4.11 @ 9:11AM

Timmothy - I look forward to your posts every morning.

Timothy L. Pennell| 8.4.11 @ 10:30AM

Thank You, Paul. I'm honored.
I mean that.

Occam's Tool| 8.6.11 @ 9:52AM

So do I, Tim. You're a goodie.

DaveD| 8.4.11 @ 12:21PM

"You have to remember that, for the LEFT, this is their RELIGION."

And a half hour, or less, conversation with a liberal will confirm that truth.

Occam's Tool| 8.6.11 @ 9:53AM

DaveD: 2 minutes at 4 Points Inn, Eastham, MA.

loulou| 8.4.11 @ 10:03AM

Matthews looks to me like a Norwegian serial killer type--the pale straw-like hair, the beady eyes with its blank look.

Matthews has a wife, homely though she may be, but maybe she's a beard. He does drool over Obama. Maybe his gaydar has gone off.

Delta Zelda| 8.4.11 @ 4:30PM

Thank you! I felt the same way after his leg tingled in response to Obama. In fact, if I had had Bill Gates's money, on election night, I'd have hired a limo, put Prissy in a wedding dress, put a couple of dozen roses and a bottle of champagne in his hand and delivered him to Barack. Prissy sounds absolutely lovelorn.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.4.11 @ 6:40AM

There is opportunity for the Republicans here.

All they have to do is state "We can't afford it" whenever they are faced with any spending bills because in truth we can't.

Ironically, the article states "The hysterical descriptions of the Tea Party are a measure of the establishment liberals' panic at a broadened debate and more constrained spending."

And here is where it all goes awry. There were several Republicans jumping on the Tea Party bashing bandwagon and enjoying the ride.

Here's a note about John McCain, someone who lost a Presidential race to an empty suit, complaining about the Tea Party:

"Mr. McCain mocked Tea Party-allied Republicans in the House for believing — wrongly, he said — that President Obama and Democrats will get the blame for a default if Republicans refuse to increase the nation’s debt ceiling.

By that flawed logic, “Democrats would have no choice but to pass a balanced budget amendment and reform entitlements and the Tea Party Hobbits could return to Middle Earth,” he said, quoting a Wall Street Journal editorial.

“This is the kind of crack political thinking that turned Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell into G.O.P. nominees,” he jeered, referring to two losing Tea Party candidates for the Senate in 2010."

Ironically, Republicans like Senator McCain who protest the Tea Party can be exposed as hypocrites and quite easily.

The entire Republican Party with one exception stood firm against Obamacare rightfully claiming that it cost too much and it was an intrusion on personal freedom.

Just one year later they were all too eager to jump on board the debt deal gravy train and were all too ready to lambaste anyone who viewed the deal as mostly bad finances combined with mostly bad judgment.

In short, it wasn't just the liberal establishment who trounced the Tea Party.

The Republican establishment stood by and passed the Debt Plan while political back slappers and big government embracers like John McCain attempted to marginalize the debt protesters.

If this article is to be believed, then by reason and logic many in the Republican leadership must by nature or action be liberal.

oldfart| 8.4.11 @ 7:04AM

My thoughts on Sen. McCain is that he is a political opportunist. I honestly believe that he did everything he could to loose to Obama. He sticks his finger in the air and sees which way the money is blowing.

Nancy in NC| 8.4.11 @ 9:05AM

Bingo...right on target. Did you notice McCain's flip on immigration when he was up for reelection? Have we heard one word on that subject since? The people of Az blew it when they reelected the RINO.

righthook | 8.4.11 @ 1:53PM

McCain is a joke. I voted for him, but I was holding my nose when I did it. He deserved to lose, quite frankly. He wouldn't have gotten as far as he did without Palin.

George True| 8.4.11 @ 2:16PM

Nancy, McCain was unopposed in the primary. Our only choice was either him or the socialist Democrat. As much as McCain disappoints me, if my only choice is a RINO or a socialist Democrat, I will vote for the RINO every time.

George True| 8.4.11 @ 4:03PM

I must be getting alzheimer's. I had already forgotten JD Hayworth's ill-fated run against McCain in the primary. I enthusiasticall voted for Hayworth, but he didn't have a prayer against McCain, and he lost by 24 points.

Again, once McCain was on the ballot in the general election, the only choice was either him or the Democrat. By definition, all Democrats these days are socialists. I will never vote for a socialist. So I once again voted for the RINO McCain. What else can you do in the general? Not to vote is in effect a vote for the socialist.

John2| 8.4.11 @ 4:07PM

Yeah, in that situation I voted for him. And I hoped he would win. But I was without enthusiasm because I knew we were in for disappointment even if he won 2008.

canuckistani| 8.4.11 @ 4:14PM

And you will again. Willard will get the nom and make a fool of himself - just like gramps did the last time.

The only hope he has is to recruit Rubio as Veep, but even Rubio may not want to be tarred with Willard's flipflop sputum either.

Willard's disappearing act during the last month was revelatory in his willingness to run away from a clearly presidential challenge. BHO ran from it, and so did he. Result: no obvious reason to vote for Willard or BHO. A missed opp if there ever was one.

George True| 8.4.11 @ 5:56PM

As much as it pains me to say it, I am not sure that Rubio is constitutionally eligible.

canuckistani| 8.4.11 @ 4:19PM

We criticize flip floppers here, but aren't the American people fickle as well?
If the economy is in the tank next year and they are looking for populist solutions, the TP has wrested many tools from the GOP hands, leaving their "freedom" rhetoric pretty bare on details.

The world is a mixed economy, will continue to intervene, and will continue to undermine US growth.

The GOP nom better be ready to speak the truth and defend it or be worse for not salving the savage beast of the US electorate. "Morning in America" will not work this time.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.4.11 @ 7:34AM

Topper| 8.5.11 @ 4:36AM

Great comment by Bill.

CrackerHound| 8.4.11 @ 10:03AM

Here is how I think it plays out over the next several years (if the Tea Party stays organized and engaged):

A third party is really not an option though some Tea Party group will try it when things get really bad, but without much support.

The economy will not get any better. In fact we will be beyond crisis mode in the next two years...worldwide. More people will turn to Tea Party principles and we will be THE driving force in politics. The media and establisment leftists will attack with everything they have.

The Republican Party will be transformed from RINO to true small government, contstitutional conservatives and the Democrats will become out of the closet socialists in response.

The breadth and scope of financial collapse will put the new Republicans firmly in power in both houses and the Whitehouse (this could happen in 2012 but perhaps 2016. Republican should have Congress and the Whitehouse in the next election but there will still be plenty of RINOS until 2016.

By 2016 the standard of living in the US will change dramatically. Government will be an unreconizable and broken behemoth. The average American will face skyrocketing costs and low wages all while the government scrambles to take what we have left to pay it's bills. This will cause half of the voting public to embrace the socialist Democrats (believing the media hype that conservatives have destroyed the economy and the only remedy is "shared sacrifice i.e. socialism) and half to gravitate to the only real solution which is stop spending and shrink the cost of governing this great country....Tea Party Republicans.

The end result will be what all of this has been leading to since the US economy went over the cliff soon after Obamacare passed. There will be unrest like we have never seen. The country will be so divided that commerce will be affected beyond what the meltdown has created and Tea Party Republicans who now control the government will enpowered to do the things they say need to be done now. Whole government departments will be eliminated. Social Security and all of the New Deal programs will end or scaled back dramatically. The IRS will still exist but taxation through payrolls will end. A flat tax, across the board rate will apply to ALL citizens. The threshold for qualifying for government assistance will be set at reasonable levels with responsibility being mandated. In other words temporary assistance, not open ended handouts.
Obamacare will be repealed and tort reform with real teeth will undertaken. The only way to fix the healthcare problem is to take government out of it and allow Americans to buy insurance across state lines.

If all of this plays out favorably, we should have a Balanced Budget Amendment written in sometime between 2016-2020.

George True| 8.4.11 @ 12:21PM

From your keyboard to God's ears, sir. You are correct, it will have to get much worse before it can get better. We have maybe 24-36 months before the dollar tumbles to perhaps one half or one third of its present devalued state. This will happen as a direct result of the last three years of $1.5 trillion dollar deficits, combined with the continuing $1.5 trillion dollar deficits made possible by last week's debt limit deal.

When people discover that their money buys only half as much as it did just a few short years earlier, then even the sleepwalkers among us will be awakened. Democrats of course will claim that none of it was their fault, and it was the stingy Republicans who wouldn't let them spend enough that has caused the calamity. The MSM will parrot that message, and the Republicans, true to form, will still not have learned how to frame a narrative to counter the leftist narrative.

But when it takes every devalued dollar people can get their hands on just to physically survive each month, enough people will realize that the narrative from the left and their MSM parrots is nothing but lies. Then and only then will things begin to get better. But in the meantime, much more ruination of a very personal nature will be visited upon us all.

loulou| 8.4.11 @ 10:05AM

What kind of idiot statist elite GOPer worries about who's going to "get the blame"? Our "leaders" have no ballz.

Jack in Wi.| 8.4.11 @ 11:31AM

McCain and all the other big tent Republicans can go to hell. They have almost destroyed the cconservative movement with their warmongering and fiscal mismanagement.

CrackerHound| 8.4.11 @ 12:00PM

Yea...I've long since lost my respect for McCain's "service to his country" as his only service since then has been corruption and contribute to it's downfall.

David| 8.4.11 @ 12:35PM

As for McCain, do you know when it's time to retire? When you can no longer remember which party you belong to.

Paul| 8.4.11 @ 6:50AM

Easy - if liberals do not give our money to the parasite class to vote for them, they do not stay in power. The rest of this is just window dressing.

Brian Mc| 8.4.11 @ 7:25AM

And we are evil, Paul. We are presented as being 'unwilling' to share. Libs think this is some kind of game on a playground; in the process they have raised the stakes beyond reason and this 'game' could become more than that and soon. Who or what is to blame, for the direction this country has taken over the past eighty years, is not as important as what reasonable steps must be taken to add reason to the discourse? Since liberalism does not allow for reason, this is our biggest challenge.

Southern_Comment| 8.4.11 @ 9:22AM

Start with education. We seem to keep hedging at that one, but it's too important to ignore. It seems we are refusing to do anything about the armies that are entering voting age with no other knowledge than how they've been told several hours a day for the past 17 or 18 years - and now with follow up if they go to college. Education is too important to our country's future in all aspects. I don't think we are paying enough attention to resolving the problems in our schools. We seem merely to be focused on the distraction, teachers's unions.

Stuart Koehl| 8.4.11 @ 7:02AM

I rather like being a hobbit, myself.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 8.4.11 @ 7:05AM

Someone should inform McCain and the Wall Street Journal that the Hobbits won.

JimH| 8.4.11 @ 8:30AM

Does ORC stand for Obama Reelection Committee?

Mike Hawk| 8.4.11 @ 8:51AM

Sounds good to me.

Drudge Ette Obama| 8.4.11 @ 7:37AM

It pleases me to be called a Hobbit, unless Chris Matthews is mocking my ears.

News to Matthews - I hear you just fine, but I am not listening. You seem so unstable to me that it hurts to watch you .

JimH| 8.4.11 @ 9:54AM

I admit I'm a bit of a LOTR nerd so I feel compelled to point out that for a Hobbit the distinguishing feature are the large furry feet. For ears you may be thinking of elves. Frodo lives.

Anthony| 8.4.11 @ 11:44AM

I'd rather be a hobbit than a troll any day.
The classic incivility of the left is nothing more than an entitlment to an hegemony that they believe is their elitist right to shove down the throats of all Americans.
Despite all the evidence to the contray, directly in front of their troll eyes, they refuse to acknowledge their failed philosophy.
Be it Kenysian economics, or the utter folly of their 12th century concept of anthropogenic global warming, they continue to stiffle debate, critical analysis and direct vicious ad homimem attacks against all of us who ask rational questions.
Look folks, we need to face facts, leftism is a mental disease. We need to acknowledge that fact and stop attempting to deal with these people as if they were rational and capable of honest discussion.
We cannot reason with an entire group of demented fantics. They must be defeated or America is finished. That's the unpleasant truth.

Melvin| 8.4.11 @ 7:18AM

The Tea Party is severely loathed by both political parties. More so with the Republican Party. The Tea Party leadership appears or at least for now is concentrating on smaller victories within the States and local governments, because if we want real political reform that is where reform begins, at the state and local level.
At the National level just the mention of the Tea Party makes the establishment Republicans and the Socialist Democrats start spitting all over themselves with incoherent babble.
It would appear that the Tea Party would best serve itself as being the political oversight for both Parties. Kind of like a boxer who wears down his opponent with quick jabs, and feints, and not necessarily going for the knockout punch with every swing.
The old establishment Republicans are exactly that, "Old," there isn't enough Botox in Nancy Pelosi's Minority Leader's desk drawer to let these Republican Country Club Blue Bloods live forever.
The Tea Party is also should force the hand with the RNC. The RNC is going to support and push Establishment candidates because it is their turn. If we wanted Robotic yes men candidates we should just go a did up Strom Thurmond and prop him up in his Hover-round.

megapotamus| 8.4.11 @ 9:37AM

I don't see how Thurmond is your archetype there. Bob Dole would seem to be exemplary except, of course, that he ain't dead. Yet.

daddio| 8.4.11 @ 10:02AM

How do we know Dole isn't dead? Has anyone checked lately? I agree with what Melvin has written. TP needs to build a broad coalition by concentrating on local elections first before going for the knockout blow in a national election.

Indy| 8.4.11 @ 10:32AM

We are, remember the shift in State Houses in 2010 and look how some of those states have made reforms to improve fiscal positions and passed other key legislation such as requiring a valid photo ID in order to vote. Town Councils, School Boards, we are focused at all levels of government...please get involved, don't wait on the TP to do it. You don't have to call yourself a TP member but please get involved if you haven't already done so.

loulou| 8.4.11 @ 10:06AM

Absolutely right.
I think Bobdole is still alive. Who knows? Who cares?

Melvin| 8.4.11 @ 10:30AM

I'm sorry I just go to do this. Remember a number of years ago when Bob Dole was in Viagra commercials on TV.
I would venture that he is at home, and telling Mrs. Dole, "Get your backside back in here, I aint done yet." Mrs. Dole replies, "Oh, Bobby your such an animal."

Skippy| 8.5.11 @ 6:54PM

Dole may not have been elected POTUS, but he was a member of the 10th Mountain Division in Italy in WW2.
Combat wounded and nearly killed.
Those boys were the absolute toughest unit in the Army back then. Ask the Germans about them sometime.
Bob Dole will always have my respect.

Citizen-Comrade| 8.6.11 @ 10:35PM

Yeah okay, he has my "respect" too but he does not have my vote. By the bye, how do you know he was a "war hero" and not just some dumb schlub who was in the wrong place at the wrong time when he "got hit"?

Bruce| 8.4.11 @ 2:43PM

I sensed their increasing contempt and loathing when they sent Rove in to get the Tea Party rounded up and working for them, with little effect.

If we want to 'out' the GOP establishment with regard to the Tea Party, we ought to bring Immigration into the middle of debate again.

Clint| 8.4.11 @ 7:24AM

We Are In A Media War.

The Liberal Democrats & Their RINO-CINO Fellow Travelers and their Mainstream Media Agendists serially attempt to smear up & marginalize We Tea Party Patriots & Our Candidates.
We can & will deal with it, as we vet Our 2012 Congressional & Presidential Candidates & place our committee people & delegates.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & Now.

Carpe Diem.

Jack in Wi.| 8.4.11 @ 11:35AM

A good star would be to send Orin Hatch packing in Utah. There are a lot more old bulls that need to be sent to the slaugterhouse.

righthook | 8.4.11 @ 1:59PM

Dick Lugar is one that really needs to go. He's been around much too long and is a completely RINO. Richard Mourdock is running against him, and he's a true conservative. He would be great. http://www.richardmourdock.com/

idalily| 8.4.11 @ 2:58PM

Mitch McConnell comes to mind. KY people, please, get rid of that fossil and elect a true conservative.

John2| 8.4.11 @ 4:12PM

Don't be so sure they are bulls anymore -- RINOs do not seem to be anatomically complete.

irish19| 8.5.11 @ 2:17AM

Steers and capons as opposed to bulls and roosters?

Petronius| 8.4.11 @ 7:50AM

MSNBC has proclaimed Teaparty members insane because "They can't have what they want." Right! The Establishment looks upon us as an entity to be subjugated and reduced to serfdom and We Want OUR FREEDOM back!! These overweening power mad intellectual Snots have made economic and social advancement impossible for the average American. And how dare we not bow down and accept it. Their regime can overtax and insult us all they want on the channels nobody watches except their friends. Nothing they say or do can force us to like it. That goes double for Boehner and his RINO shitheels.

megapotamus| 8.4.11 @ 9:35AM

When they say, like Pelosi, that life on earth as we know it is threatened by TEA Party lunacy, she is honest and correct. What they mean is THEIR lives and THEIR world are imperiled and so they are but, again, the TEA activists are only the vanguard for Reality. Defeat the TEA Party and/or their policy prescriptions and you will take a full, steaming skillet of Reality in the teeth and not in some distant future, either.

CrackerHound| 8.4.11 @ 10:30AM

Petronius:"Their regime can overtax and insult us all they want "

Americans are to blame. The political class saw that we were unengaged and uninterested so they did EXACTLY as one would expect from people in positions of power.

We are engaged now so let's see what happens. Too bad the marxists have the media and schools. The propaganda eminating from the establishment will be hard to overcome but we do have our own outlets.

I think the Tea Party needs to hold mass rallies in 2012 in preparation for the elections. ...good recruiting tool

martin j smith| 8.4.11 @ 7:58AM

We need new leadership. This duet of bozos McC and B should have denounced the VP and confronted Obama about the lack of civility of HIS side. In fact the duet of bozoes should have spoken out about a lot of things. Like GWB they are often too silent. Not good enough. New Leadership.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

megapotamus| 8.4.11 @ 9:31AM

Above all, we lack boldness. Boldness, boldness, boldness. Why do Democrats at the highest level feel free to abhor in the most vile terms, anyone to the right of Mondale? Because, facts, logic and history aside, they believe themselves correct, virtuous and above all, aggrieved. They need that misapprehension crushed out of them. Reality is up to most of that job but the coup de grace has to come from their hated opponents, and that's us. They need their noses rubbed in the mess they have made, to be carried by the scruff to the door and hurled out into the snow. Who would do this? Romney? He's two-thirds on their side. He should primary Obama if he truly wants to serve. There are only two announced candidates that fit that bill and one is Ron Paul. The other one is a granny.

CrackerHound| 8.4.11 @ 12:20PM

Rick Perry/Jim DeMint

I really like Paul and Palin but they cannot win a general election

righthook | 8.4.11 @ 2:00PM

I like Jim DeMint a lot. Mike Pence and Marco Rubio would also be great picks.

RPFAE| 8.4.11 @ 2:16PM

Ron Paul will win the nomination and go on to crush Obama in the debate and in the election if all the people who say "I like him, but he can't win" will vote for him in the primary. He is the only GOP candidate who can deliver for the disenfranchised Democrats, the Independents and the Libertarians who are not enamored of Obama. Remember, the primary is not a horse race. The idea is not to pick a winner but to indicate which candidate most closely represents you and your views. Ron Paul 2012!

irish19| 8.5.11 @ 2:21AM

If Paul were to win the nomination (I will NOT vote for him in a primary), I would vote for him in the general election.
Sorry, OT. He would be better than one of the RINOs the MBM is trying to foist on us.
Besides, think of the fun watching MSM heads explode in prime time. More cheese and biscuits. Gromit! And ale! Lots of ale!

idalily| 8.4.11 @ 3:01PM

With all due respect to Jim DeMint (whom I love with every fiber of my conservative little heart), he would add little to a Perry ticket that Perry doesn't already have on his own. And we need DeMint in the Senate anyway. What Perry needs is someone to bolster foreign policy experience. I say draft John Bolton for VP.

irish19| 8.4.11 @ 3:55PM

While it would be fun to watch lib heads explode should Bolton be nominated for VP, even more heads would explode (more fun) if he were put in charge of State by a conservative POTUS.

gearjammer| 8.4.11 @ 8:08AM

Matthews makes millions and gets lousy ratings. He like many in media are overpaid DNC workers. Conservatives must get it through their heads that our free market is not perfect and overpaid people exest. A report on the economic model of television is needed. Whether the regular networks cable or hollywood something does not add up. The higher and higher cable prices are a tip off. But, we have nobody looking at this. You wanna get votes-try this line " my wife has a harder time writing off her nursing shoes than a millionaire actress does her 100k gown for Oscar night". Her union knee jerk liberal cohorts at a Boston hospital nod in agreement. We can use class warfare too. This entire thing on corporate jets-hell quicker depeciation equals faster turnover and thus more ORDERS for the AMERICANS building them. Then contrast this with the tax breaks hollywood and the STARS get every day. Investigate what write offs this jerk Damon gets and then expose him and do it with a big time campaign. Don't count on Limbaugh help he never met a millionaire or billionare he did not cherish as a national treasure.

Louis Jenkins| 8.4.11 @ 8:09AM

"The recklessness in U.S. politics comes not from the Tea Party but from the establishment as it runs up trillions of dollars in debt."

The Tea Party is the only adult in the room. They are doing their best to limit the growth of government, and get no recognition for the same. Whether or not the crux of the moment is identified by the spenders the Tea Party sees it with all clarity. Regardless of whether or not we identify the loss of freedom at an instance, or through the absorption of many events, we are losing our freedom. If we are to have any hope it comes from the Tea Party, and not from the "old guard." Go ahead Chris Matthews, get a tingly up and down your leg when you see the fool, for those of us with wisdom see the man for what he is.

daddio| 8.4.11 @ 10:04AM

CrackerHound| 8.4.11 @ 12:15PM

Is it just me or do any of you see (from personal observation) many, many reliable Democrat voters turning AGAINST the dems as whole...not just Obama?

In my circle, I see only die hard unionists and eco-nuts willing to support democrats anymore....and this is a recent turn

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 8:36AM

This is extremely sad to me, since a rational reading of George's factual article only reveals the contempt and loathing demonstrated by the DEMOCRATIC PARTY and their politicians for the tea party movement, yet these bloggers here comment/reply to same by once again [as usual] attacking the REPUBLICAN PARTY in return. The target of these Democrats/ smears are the tea party, and the [as is termed here] establishment Republicans are not doing likewise. There are no constant verbal assaults from Boehner, McConnel, McCain, Romney etc upon the tea party. Sure some Republicans have disagreed with the tea party's ideas, but that diagreement has been CIVIL IN TONE AND WORDING. What, it is not allowed to disagree with the tea partiers [it's MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY]? That method will get you nowhere. Maybe these Democrats' critisisms are correct, when they say that the tea party will not listen and are arrogant. Some here have opined that the tea party commenters here are such, and I'm beginning to believe that they are correct in their accessment. Tea partiers have to open their minds to the fact that the Republican Party got them the success they now possess, not the Democratic Party [whose radical liberals hate/loathe moderate Republicans, and their opinions of conservative-tea party ones is beyond reason and civility]. If you tea partiers here think that its BOTH parties, and that there is no difference between them, then try joining their ranks and see where it takes you. If you wish to smosh with Pilosi, Reid, Schumer, Clyburn and the like, have at it and so long. The Republican Party is your only hope for success and with same you will be nothing [the tea party cannot exist on its own as a seperate entity]!!!!!!!!

Mike Hawk| 8.4.11 @ 9:01AM

Tea PArty is a loose affiliation of motivated citizenry, a grassroots movement. It is not a separate entity. We are taking it to the RINO establishment and fending off the ORC as goals. It isn't easy, but we have the will. It took over 40 years for Liberalism to get this far. It will take more than 2 to reverse it.

Clint| 8.4.11 @ 9:21AM

Agree,

Below is for others.

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 10:45AM

http://youtu.be/JJVZpWZzqhk

Clint| 8.4.11 @ 11:17AM

Then Stop Your Own Crybabyin' About The Tea Party RINO-CINO Gas Passer.

Box Of Tissues Crybaby ?

simon templar| 8.4.11 @ 10:40AM

I am afraid you have it backwards. The Tea Party is the only hope for success and is everything. The GOP is the political vehicle, as broken down as it is, that the Tea Party is utilizing at the moment and attempting to influence and reform.
If the GOP continues to undermine its goals and values ( that is conservative values) as it has done in the past, as there is a mountain of evidence to substantaite this claim, then it will have two choices...either get on the bandwagon or dissolve.

Your obsession with the Tea party forming a third party is rather unwarranted. The Tea Party from every indication, at this point, has no wish to be a political party with top down leadership and all the trappings of a political party. How many times does this have to be pointed out? So we do not listen and we are arrogant? Establishment Republicans are not smearing the Tea party? The tone has been civil. Hmmm. Was that a dream then that I had of McCain and the WSJ and several other so-called conservative media outlets calling them Hobitts and deriding them? Oh, yes, civility. If sticking to principle and having realitic expectations about what you think should be done to solve a problem is arrogant, then I am guilty.

Once again, do not take the emotional and defensive reactions of a few bloggers on one web site as evidence of an entire movement of people or imply that they are a representative sample. Just as all Repubilicans are not progressive RINO's but rather many are principled people who identify with The Tea party activists, these bloggers do not represent the vast Tea Party activists.

The fact remains that the concerns of many of these bloggers should not be dismissed either. There has been a mountain of resistance and backsliding in Washington DC that is real and must be faced. People must be pressured and held accountable because they have SHOWN that they are unreliable and will take the path of least resistance and political expediency.
-Sincerely offered from the Land Of the Hobbit.

simon templar| 8.4.11 @ 11:14AM

Let me add. The Tea Party is not the GOP as of yet. It is the actual manifestation of true Republican government and self government. It is not a party. Please listen closely. You said it is the Tea Party's way or the highway. In many RESPECTS YOU ARE CORRECT. The people, the organized citizenry call the shots and are suppose to have the last word not the ruling elite. The deal struck was a damn joke and a shame. Wall street and most of the American public just happen to agree that it was pathetic and much more could have been accomplished. There seems to be an attitude here that the Tea Party should be seen and not heard when it comes to DC negotiations. You treat them like unruly children who may be correct in their greivances but lack the political wisdom that the big establishment DC politicians seem to have. Ridiculous. It was not the Tea Party candidates or the activist telling people to shut up and get their asses in line. Boehener should have been telling that to the Senate and the president. Please, enough of the we only control some "ith' of the government. This never stopped a flame throwing liberal democrat. Yes, we know and agree that 100 percent was not realistic and winning this fight politically was in some ways more important than getting everything. Unfortunately, the jury is still out on both cases and it does not look good for us.

David| 8.4.11 @ 12:43PM

Look, the republicans under Bush acted like Democrats except they did not raise taxes. Is was spend and cut taxes. The republicans under Clinton acted like republicans. Hold the line on spending and tax enough to balance the budget. The current Republican establishment starts negotiating from the middle and moves substantially left. The tea party simply sticks to its principles which I happen to believe are correct.

irish19| 8.4.11 @ 3:57PM

As long as the Rs continue the same go along to get along, who's turn is it now, style of politics, they need to be hammered. They have not yet gotten it.
The debate on the debt ceiling would not have been held at all were it not for Tea Party-supported freshmen/women holding the leadership's feet to the fire.

Clint| 8.4.11 @ 8:42AM

Bullshit !

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 10:33AM

BS? Explain yourself idiot....What's specifically is BS? JFC, Forrest you were entirely correct!!!

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 10:46AM

http://youtu.be/JJVZpWZzqhk

Clint| 8.4.11 @ 11:19AM

Already Asked & Answered Above, RINO-CINO Crybaby.

Bob Grant| 8.4.11 @ 8:54AM

Nice pic of Mr. Bo Tingles.

righthook | 8.4.11 @ 2:01PM

Hahaha...Mr. Bo Tingles. That's funny. I love it!

somnolence| 8.4.11 @ 8:58AM

Let me put it in simple terms. The GOP can't win next year without the support of the Tea Party, and many of the stalwarts continue to believe we will go gladly to the polls to mark a ballot for Romney, Giuliani, Perry, Huntsman or some others. Dream on.

Mike Hawk| 8.4.11 @ 9:02AM

Giuliani isn't running and Huntsman is a dud.

righthook | 8.4.11 @ 2:02PM

I never even hear about Huntsman. Is he still running? RINO...

John2| 8.4.11 @ 4:15PM

He is officially in the hunt, but he ain't much of a huntsman.

Nancy in NC| 8.4.11 @ 9:12AM

Unfortunately I would go to the polls, hold my nose, and mark my ballot for those you listed, except I might stay home if it were Huntsman. We absolutely need to be rid of Obeyme.

The next best scenario would be a majority in the Senate and then we could render Obeyme inpotent.

The GOP surely realizes they need the tea party more than we need them. Does 2010 ring a bell?

daddio| 8.4.11 @ 10:08AM

"The GOP surely realizes they need the tea party more than we need them."

I don't think they do. Read Edward's comment above. If Tea Party ideas are not incorporated into the GOP platform for 2012, then the GOP deserves to lose to Obama, and the whole country will lose big time. Perhaps this will then be the deathknell of the old Republican (RINO) Guard, and the Democrats as well, and we can finally have a viable third (Tea) party in this country.

Skippy| 8.5.11 @ 7:07PM

Ed is a seminar plant.
There was a very well-spoken lady on this site a few months back who wrote the exact same crap.
She was fullovit and a fake as well.

Butch | 8.4.11 @ 3:47PM

Why Perry in that list, somnolence?

megapotamus| 8.4.11 @ 9:19AM

Farte, just how in hell does that square with your assessment of McCain? If he threw the race (and that is suggested by his inactions) and he straight up colluded with not just the Democrat but the worst of them all, what good is he? What good is what he stands for which is get-along-to-go-along? The simple fact is that the "Republican Establishment" in large measure agrees with socialism. Kristol may not be as commie as Al Gore but he is commie en0ugh. Sure, there is a difference between Dems and Reps but on Big Government that difference consists of one side that is in favor of infinite government bloat and another that considers it inevitable. Also you pick a bad week to compare McCain/Boehner in their tolerance for TEA. Boehner's genius addition to to our modern political lexicon, "Get yer a$$es in line!" is a guttural burp Stalin would not dare to utter in public. McCain chose to make his insults vicariously but on the Senate floor so they are enshrined forever in the Congressional Record. Sorry, no sale there. What is truly disgusting is that the Republicans never can make any substantive arguments against TEA backed policies. They claim to agree with them and favor them and work for them, as in the BBA but now is never the time. That's crap. We are talking about shmucks who have been on the job for two or three decades. Off camera these guys play by the same rules and for the same prizes as the Democrats. What is needed is not a third party necessarily, although once the Reps were the third party among the Whigs and Dems, don't forget that! but there needs to be a soft coup where backbenchers who are scheming for committee chairs and campaign contributions are replaced with those who ARE hardheaded and anti-compromise. We are not compromising with Democrats and RINOs merely when we say, hey, go ahead and borrow what you can, sign our name. We are compromising with fiscal reality. In truth, we are spitting in her face. Not a good growth plan and there is only ONE good growth plan out there and that is to treat the government as the enemy of prosperity if not fully the enemy of the people. Republicans who do so will prosper. Those who do otherwise must be eliminated at the first opportunity. Why is Boehner speaker? No good reason except his pliability and he bends in only one direction. Ryan, frankly, is an opportunist but not without value. The only "plans" making any arithmetical sense are coming from the RSC yet where is even rhetorical INTEREST, if not support for Jim Jordan's actions from the est? Out here in the fields we ponder these questions. Where is the plan from the establishment that actually balances the budget even on its own terms? It does not exist. The compromise in raising the debt ceiling or not does not lie in giving up Obama's full request (which will NOT last him through the election as he presumes, not even close). With all this holly-jolly Reaganism going on maybe someone could have said, yes, Reagan got a dozen and a half odd debt ceiling bumps. You know what that means? It means he was only getting a few $b at a time. How about offering quarterly or so increases that would total $1.5t? Now THAT is a compromise that yields, at least in part, to Reality and still subscribes to the alleged principles of the conservative party. Just what is the Republican Party without her conservatives? We have seen what she becomes without conservatism. You have it just reversed, Farte. It is the Republicans who cease to exist without the TEA Party. Whether that cuts both ways remains to be seen. I think not.

George True| 8.4.11 @ 12:38PM

MegaP: I love your comments. A friendly suggestion, though. Please, break it up into paragraphs. One long, unbroken block of print is much harder to read and absorb. I have scrolled past your comments before for that very reason.

You have a lot of good things to say. Please make it easier for us to read and appreciate them.

Hillel| 8.4.11 @ 9:22AM

While I never thought McCain would be a good president,(the unconstitutional McCain Feingold law showed that) Let us honor his service and draw a discrete vail over his later errors.

kerry| 8.4.11 @ 9:32AM

absolutely NOT. We are in a fight for our freedom and the future of this country. McCain is an enemy just like the liberal progressives. We need to expose these creeps for who they are. Why are you apologizing for him? You know there are many democrats that served in the military. I could care less. I care about preserving our freedom and McCain has not upheld the constitution and mocks those that do.

megapotamus| 8.4.11 @ 9:50AM

Are you insane? And it's veil. If we draw a vail over McCain it would be to cover him with a dewy meadow. Not a bad idea, perhaps.

loulou| 8.4.11 @ 10:12AM

McCain isn't the only person to serve in the military. He was stupid enough to get shot down and become a hero but that's yesterday's news. He is despicible. Why doesn't he just switch to the Democrat Party?

Nick| 8.4.11 @ 11:39AM

Hillel,

Yes, honor his service to our nation, especially as a P.O.W. But, this should not give McLame a free pass the rest of his life. If he is wrong, he is wrong.

And, when he attacks conservatives, as he has done in the past (with his good friend Grahmnesty,) he needs to be rebutted vigorously.

Shame on those Arizonans who let McShame have six more years in the Senate.

George True| 8.4.11 @ 12:47PM

George True here in Phoenix, AZ. It was either McCain or the socialist Democrat. As much as McCain repels me in various ways, if we had 60 just like him in the senate, I submit that we would not currently be saddled with Obamacare and with annual $1.5 trillion dollar deficits.

I will not vote for a socialist, no matter what. And to just not vote, is in fact a vote for the socialist.

Once McCain got past the primary (and as I recall he was unopposed) he was the only choice. That's just reality. People like him desperately need to be primaried. But until that happens, if my only choice is a RINO or an avowed socialist, which every Democrat now is, I will vote for the RINO every time.

Nick| 8.4.11 @ 2:02PM

Mr. True,

McLame did have a primary opponent, J.D. Hayworth. That was the best opportunity to get rid of him.

I held my nose, and voted for McShame in '08. But, I would not have voted for him in '10, if I was in your shoes. He's been in D.C. for 30 years. That's 30 years of entrenched power. He needed to go.

A freshman democrat can do far less damage than a RINO with 30 years of entrenched power. RINO stands for Republican In Name Only. That makes them the equivalent of a democrat.

George True| 8.4.11 @ 2:28PM

Wow. I must be getting alzheimer's. I had already forgotten J.D.'s ill-fated run against McCain in the primary. Now I remember it all. (Perhaps I subconsciously blocked it all out.)

Of course I voted enthusiastically for J.D. But I remember thinking at the time that he did not have a prayer against McCain, and I was right. McCain had literally ten times as much campaign cash as Hayworth.and he used it effectively. He also successfully painted Hayworth as a snake oil salesman for having done some infomercial once for somebody.

I felt at the time that Hayworth should have been smart enough to realize he wasn't going to knock off McCain. Every poll showed him losing to McCain by multiple double digits, which he did. I thought JD should have run for re-election to congress, which he probably could have pulled off. We could have used him there.

In any case, I am happy I had the chance to vote for Ben Quayle in my district and that he won. He is one of the new tea party freshmen in congress.

POST American| 8.4.11 @ 9:27AM

------Terminology demoralization op ALERT!-----

The Globalist RED China TREASON op
is consolidating for the FINAL
kill, even as the world depop op --in Fukishima
--is being buried by the EUGENICS friendly' media
(reports of the greatest radiation EVER just in).

In the midst of all this ---a 'Tea Party'? --huh???

Who ever named it a Tea Party'?

While we understand the connection, the
overall image is feeble and insipid.

It conjures up antiques, old ladies
and chipped China. It seems calculated
to emasculate rather than energize and
empower.

How about the 'American Party'? ---the 'Constitution Party'?
---the 'Anti-Usury/ Anti-Masonic Party'? ---the 'Citizen's Party'?
---the 'Liberty Party'?

These are the vital themes and images.

Certainly there's some Murdoch/Tavistock
tampering at work here.

No one genuine and grassroots
would ever have come up with such a
lame, disabling label. There's NO urgency or strength in the name. NONE.

And, anyway, how lame is 'tea' in a nation, and age,
of confirmed coffee drinkers?
Totally irrelevant and inept
and marginalizing.

-------REFUSE the label!

-----------A subversion op. No doubt about it.

k962| 8.4.11 @ 9:39AM

The liberals who refuse to call Major Hassan a terrorist but are willing to describe a principled congressmen as a terrorist, are showing their hate of democratic methods. All with democracy is well and good when it goes the liberal way, when it doesn't then they return to their fascist roots!

Clint| 8.4.11 @ 9:46AM

T.E.A.

Taxed Enough Already.

Apparently, Drugs Have You Addled.

You Still Got Time To Clean Up Your Act Before You Take An Amy Winehouse Dirt Nap.

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 10:46AM

http://youtu.be/JJVZpWZzqhk

Clint| 8.4.11 @ 11:21AM

Then, Maybe You'll Finally Shut Your RINO-CINO Mouth Farting Dude.

Box Of Tissues RINO-CINO Crybaby ?

simon templar| 8.4.11 @ 10:10AM

What do you think all this tells you?

Here it is. YOU are the enemy in their eyes. This desease within the body politic is hell bent on destroying the body it inhabits. Do you think it is time to defend this body with everything we have and rid itself of the disease or just put another bandaid on the cancer.

Anthony| 8.4.11 @ 10:32AM

The entire leftist establishment is headed over the cliff. It's our job to insure they do so before they destroy this great country of ours.
Matthews, Krugman, Friedman, and the rest of the radical lefist "intelligencia" have done their best. Marx and Keynes have once again been exposed for the failures that they are, yet their demented trolls continue to follow blindly.
Since they can't seem to see what is in front of them, falling off the cliff will simply be a matter of time.
As Gov. Palin said recently, "2012 can't come soon enough". Then the serious ass kicking will begin.

Indy| 8.4.11 @ 10:41AM

Terrorism is evil and to hear our VP and the press vilify Ameircans for standing up for fiscal responsibility makes me sick.

http://michellemalkin.com/2006.....revisited/

never forget

http://michellemalkin.com/2010.....r-resolve/

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 10:43AM

Some of the above comments are typically ignorant [or just plain STUPID]. It ain't the Republicans, who are fellow conservatives mostly. ITS THE DEMOCRATS, STUPIDS! You ain't gonna win as a seperate tea PARTY, since same is a fractured movement composed of indipendent, non-linked cells all throughout the country. You don't have the political MONEY needed to finance victorious candidates WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE/ORGANIZATION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ESTABLISHMENT, fools. There are only two parties [and the tea party ain't one of them, okay?] Pick a party, either Democrat or Republican. You can REFORM TOWARD CONSERVATISM FROM WITHIN the Republican Party, but you cannot do so with the Democratic Party [since they're radicals]. Republicans are your friends/allies, not your ENEMIES. Quit critisizing them and start converting/convincing them of your conservative principles, and you can't do so by calling them names, slandering them etc [if you do then you're just as bad and as radical as Democrats]. Also, see the attached video that should explain this in visual terms to you if necessary:

http://youtu.be/JJVZpWZzqhk

simon templar| 8.4.11 @ 11:29AM

Back to the third party stuff. Ok, when you stop slamming the Tea Party and accusing them of wanting a third party, we will stop calling out the backsliders, RINO's and telling the truth about this deal. No, we will not do that! Convincing them of our conservative principles? What are you talking about? Why would I need to do that? I thought they were conservative by nature of being Republicans and members of the GOP? This is what they usually claim to be every election cycle. Guess what? We are winning without the GOP money and infrastructure. We will do it again in 2012. If you want the name calling stopped then direct your concerns over to WSJ, McCain, and a host of others who did not have the political sense in the heat of a fight not to blame, slander, and push aside the very group who not only gave them power but brought the issues to the forefront of the body politic. We have picked the republican party and we will continue to hold them accountable and keep the pressure on. A good house cleaning is in order and I just know who is the best person for the job. We have no intention of doing anything with the DNC but fight them at every turn. Look..please stop with the stupid stuff. You are not stupid, neither are most of the people out here other than the trolls.

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 7:21PM

'Stop with the stupid stuff'? Okay, then stop the f&CKING; STUPIDITY that has allowed this country to get to this point! All I here/read here is the Rpublicans this, that and the other GD thing! If the GD STUPIDS of this nation had not STUPIDILY voted for and elected Barack Hussein Obama [and Reid, Pilosi, and other Democrats], and had instead of voted for a GD war hero and dedicated American [the Republican R-I-N-O ], the economy would be increasing/improving right now [instead of losing 500+ points on the DJA today]. There is 10-15% unemployment, no consumer spending, no corporate investment, a real estate market in the toilet etc and all because of the GD Democrats which somebody voted for and elected. How in hell did BHO get elected if none of these bloggers here didn't vote for him? The truth is that they stupidly bought into his HOPE & CHANGE BS, voted to promote the first African American president to massage their guilt over slavery, and are now imbarrassed to admit that they voted for him. Some of thes tea partiers are these people, and they don't have the guts to admit they screwed up in putting him in office, so now they're joined this tea party movement as a massaging reaction to their guilt over 2008. Maybe you and others here should cut the crap and realize that the Republican Party is your only hope for digging this country out of the toilet bowl of this stagnant economy. Again, the tea party candidates have suffered defeats equal to or more than their successes [remember Sharon Angle and Navada and Reid's defeat of her?]. Tell the GD truth, please [and stop critisizing those of us who do so]!!!!!!!!

Cpm| 8.4.11 @ 8:22PM

You are right, there are people here that profess to be conservatives but would rather see Obama win another term than elect an establishment Republican.

simon templar| 8.4.11 @ 11:38AM

BTW, you are correct, republicans are our friends, just not all of them. We also recognize that poeple like Boehner and others may be sincerely trying to do what they think is right and may be great guys to play golf with and have a beer with, but they also may be wrong and not be handling things as best as can be done. Is that a possibility? Is that in the realm of acceptability and an allowable thought?

George True| 8.4.11 @ 12:57PM

Quite a few RINO's got their asses primaried in 2010, resulting in the new crop of freshmen tea party Republicans in congress. We simply need to repeat the process next year. We may very well reach the tipping point then, where the true conservatives are finally calling the shots as the real power brokers in the GOP.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

idalily| 8.4.11 @ 3:13PM

EXACTLY. The Tea Party must keep the pressure on the GOP, pushing them to conservative fiscal responsibility ALL THE TIME. If the pressure doesn't stay on, the Republican establishment will go back to business as usual because it's easier to get along than it is to fight. Getting qualified Tea Party candidates to primary establishment types will be KEY. Note I said qualified. Please Tea folks, we need better than Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell next time.

irish19| 8.4.11 @ 4:08PM

Given the short lead time between the formation of the Tea Party movement and the 2010 elections, the movement did amazingly well at electing candidates. I think O'Donnell would have won if the RNC had not abandoned her.
Given that we will have had two more years before the next cycle, I'm expecting even better candidates.

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 7:24PM

I know I'm correct and Rs are the tea party's friend, since all tea partiers elected are Republicans [there are no Democrat tea partiers to my knowledge; if so name them]!!!!!!

Ray| 8.4.11 @ 6:45PM

"You don't have the political MONEY needed to finance victorious candidates WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE/ORGANIZATION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ESTABLISHMENT, fools."

So, it's all about he money, and who controls it, eh? Well, that's one of the things the Tea Party supporters are trying to change. We're trying to place the power back into the hands of the common man and not some campaign committee. But, hay, how foolish of us to dare to even try to challenge the status quo. I man, really, we're no better than terrorists, right?

Hay, here's an idea, do what Americans have done in the past CREATE a new party that challenges the status quo, like what happened when the Democratic Republicans split and created the Republican Party itself, s0mething that changed the balance of power, and the Country with it, 150 years ago. But, no, that would be foolish, would it not? I mean, really, history shows us that it's not likely to succeed, right?

Oldefarte| 8.4.11 @ 7:25PM

Yeah Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan really worked ot well right??????

irish19| 8.5.11 @ 2:25AM

"It ain't the Republicans, who are fellow conservatives mostly."
I maintain that establishment Republicans are anything but conservatives.

martin j smith| 8.4.11 @ 11:26AM

In looking for an explanation about our "leadership" and why brings to mind the idea of "if only I were the fly on the wall". etc. However, since I am not I try to make sense by looking at it this way:
It goes back to Clinton NOT BEING IMPEACHED.
Fast forward to our silent GWB--very frustrating depicted as a "gentleman with class" yet you could not even read his lips since often they did not move. Then the intersection of McCaine ,GWB and Obama--and one must ask how come McCaine was "chosen" and of course his wonderful run--more like a sleep--or more like a base ball player being payed off to "throw the
match". Now we have our great leaders McConnell and Boehner cut from the same clothe as GWB . This does not work and it think it goes with many possible theories ranging from an elitist ruling class theory to a denial of reality theory or equally likely and not mutually exclusive a) bribery or b) black mail-- the usual curupt behavior. You name it. The behavior of our sidedly "getting elected", Yet these are the ones that were not exactly welcoming the Tea Party and in fact doing not so different from what the SOCIALISTS ARE DOING NOW. But now all of a sudden the Tea party Won ? Like the Socialists the Elite Republicans think were are STUPID. So I think we do need the Tea Party even more than ever and they should indeed get on the case of our False Conservatives and indeed primary some selected goof balls in the next possible election.

Nick| 8.4.11 @ 11:40AM

The best way to keep the incompetent O'Bama responsible is to hold our own leaders responsible.
Do not forget about Boehner the liar:

John Boehner is a liar and broke his word. He promised in the
2010 Pledge to America (remember that GOP?) to give
Americans THREE DAYS to read legislation
before a vote.

"Americans should have three days to read all bills before
Congress votes on them."
- John Boehner, Oct. 30, 2010

He's only been Speaker of the House for seven months, and he is
already breaking his word. How is this any different than when
SanFran Nan Pelosi did the same thing?

It's not like Boehner is incapable of keeping his word. That is, for
democrats. Remember H.R. 1, earlier this year? He let democrats
offer hundreds of amendments to keep "the Pledge’s commitment to an
'open process that makes it easier – not harder' to cut spending
[...]."

I guess we conservatives can just go pound sand, huh?

By the way, this grand deal has cut $4.5 billion from
national security spending for Fiscal Year 2012. These are
real cuts, $4.5 billion less spending
than FY 2011, not the phony C.B.O cuts from baseline
budgeting, which only reduce the growth of spending.

Thanks to this cry-baby Oompa-Loompa, we no longer have a veto
over that incompetent boob in the White House. Thank
you, sir, may I have another!

"'The American people are in charge of this country, and they deserve a Congress that acts like it,' said Boehner. 'Americans should have three days to read all bills before Congress votes on them--something they didn't get when the "stimulus" was rushed into law. We should put an end to so-called 'comprehensive' bills that make it easy to hide wasteful spending projects and job-killing policies. Bills should be written by legislators in committee in plain public view--not written in the Speaker's office, behind closed doors.'" (All emphasis minne.)
- Penny Starr, CNSNews.com, quoting John Boehner

"'Americans have lost trust with their government, which has too often ignored the will of the people in favor of party loyalty and a desire to pass partisan bills at any cost,' said the introduction to that part of the Pledge to America. 'Backroom deals, phantom amendments, and bills that go unread before being forced through Congress have become business as usual. Never before has the need for a new approach to governing been more apparent than under Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her leadership [ARRRRRRRGH!]. Americans are demanding change in the way Congress works, and we are fighting to bring much-needed sunlight to the process and give the American people a greater voice in their Congress.'" (All emphasis mine.)
- Penny Starr, CNSNews.com, quoting the GOP's Pledge to America

$*@!#%*#! HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!

Cpm| 8.4.11 @ 8:24PM

He said they "should" have 3 days, he didn't PROMISE it.

Nick| 8.4.11 @ 11:00PM

Cpm,

"We will ensure that bills are debated and discussed in the public square by publishing the text online for at least three days before coming up for a vote in the House of Representatives,” said the Pledge to America. “No more hiding legislative language from the minority party, opponents, and the public. Legislation should be understood by all interested parties before it is voted on." (Emphasis mine.)
- Penny Starr, CNSNews.com, quoting the GOP's Pledge to America

Next time, read the links that I provide, before typing.
Boehner is a liar and broke his promise, as I stated.

Cpm| 8.5.11 @ 1:58AM

Well hang him then. You might remember that there was this imposed deadline that they ran right up to, unlike 99.9% of the other bills that are likely posted for 3 days before they are voted on. Feel free to blow a frikking gasket because they weren't 100% compliant with a "pledge".

Nick| 8.5.11 @ 9:11AM

Cpm,

So, now it's blowing a gasket to expect our leaders to keep their word? You may compromised your principles for the sake of power, I will not.

I cannot abide liars.

Cpm| 8.5.11 @ 11:59AM

Reread your post. The level of invective suggests that maybe you care just a trifle too much. You have a very large spleen and it is spilling all over the place about a side issue.

Nick| 8.5.11 @ 1:10PM

Cpm,

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that qualities like honesty and good character were now "side" issues. When did this happen.

They weren't side issues when Bubba 'the pervert' Clinton was president, or when San Fran Nan Pelosi was Speaker of the House, were they?

Have you ever attacked Bubba's or Pelosi's character, Cpm?

Also, I haven't used invective, at all. I have simply quoted, and stated, the facts.
I believe the proper rebuttal phrase for the reaction you are having is: The truth hurts, doesn't it?

You probably think that John Ensign, David Vitter, and Duke Cunningham are fine Republicans, correct?

Cpm| 8.6.11 @ 1:09AM

$*@!#%*#! HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!

I realize that isn't your idea of invective. That's probably pillowtalk where you come from. Equating Boehner's failure to make you happy in this instance with the decades' long demonstration of character failure by Blinky Pelosi and Bill Clinton is misguided. I don't think at all about John Ensign, David Vitter, and Duke Cunningham. I do worry about your blood pressure and that you let a personal disappointment blow up into some kind of a hyperbolic betrayal to the point of apparent apoplexy as demonstrated by your OP.

Nick| 8.6.11 @ 10:11AM

Cpm,

No need to worry about my blood pressure. I'm simply outraged by the GOP's betrayal and will not abide liars. I assure you, I am not writhing in anger and frothing at the mouth.

Using "$*@!#%*#!" is a comic book innovation, as in make-believe. I don't cuss in the comments that I post. Any swear word you saw in those symbols was completely of your own making.

Maybe you're projecting your own invective, which you are trying so hard to suppress? Because, you also feel betrayed? Let it out, Cpm, you'll feel better!

"I don't think at all about John Ensign, David Vitter, and Duke Cunningham."

Perhaps Arlen S-P-E-C-T-O-R is your kind of Republican? Would you have been standing with President Bush and Senator Santorum trying to get Snarlin' Arlen re-elected?

David| 8.4.11 @ 12:27PM

I do agree that the left assumes they are correct, assumes all sane people agree with them, and debates simply by name calling. However, I saw no analysis -- even from the right -- during the standoff. Why can't we get good 10 year projections which allow for adjustment of various variables, e.g. taxes, spending, the economy, etc.

David| 8.4.11 @ 12:39PM

"Hezbollah faction", muggers, carjackers, jihadists, suicide bombers, and hostage takers."...

Is this article about the SEIU?

simon templar| 8.4.11 @ 12:40PM

For all those conservative Tea Partiers:
You have to check this article out, it will put a smile on your face:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45290

Keep doing exactly what we are doing, do not settle for incremental, snail crawling change, keep fighting and pushing forward!

Chef Schnauzer| 8.4.11 @ 12:52PM

Liberals are and governemt is becomming irrelevant. Labels mean nothing, the parties mean nothing. Check the compass, nudge the bow closer to the wind and ignore all but God and those in God's fellowship. • Limited federal government • Individual freedoms • Personal responsibility •
• Free markets • Returning political power to the states and the people •

Chef Schnauzer| 8.4.11 @ 12:52PM

• Limited federal government • Individual freedoms • Personal responsibility •
• Free markets • Returning political power to the states and the people •

Don| 8.4.11 @ 1:27PM

The Old communist Biden's calling the TEA party "Terrorist" knoced me off the fence - I'm joining and making a contribution today. My Grandpa, graduated from a major University, served his country in the military, worked and paid taxes for about 50 years and loves his country and is a TEA party activist. He hates the democrats and the communist in the White House but he is no Terrorist and in fact a huge Patroit and would give his life in service to the USA

fwb| 8.4.11 @ 1:39PM

Is it time?
Tiocfaidh ar la!

..."That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it,"...

Now?

irish19| 8.5.11 @ 2:27AM

"Tiocfaidh ar la!"
Okay, that kind of sounds Gaelic. What's the translation?

CT Bob| 8.4.11 @ 1:48PM

This president is far more enraptured by having expensive, extravagant parties where he can roll up his shirt sleeves to show he is "one of the people". If only he put as much energy into actually being the POTUS, maybe he wouldn't be half bad... wait a minute, he has put a lot of energy into thwarting the will of the people and shredding the Constitution. So he's not half bad, he's all bad... November 2012 needs to be this man's Waterloo. Now all the Repubs need to do is find their Wellington.

Brian| 8.4.11 @ 1:56PM

What I learned from the "Debt debate" is that Republicans could have De funded Planned Parenthood 30 years ago via the debt ceiling . It took me 30 years to figure out that the Repubs are just as bad as Dems. Worse!

Melvin| 8.4.11 @ 3:02PM

People, I just now realized that since members of the Tea Party are therefore declared, "Insane, and Terrorists," we now qualify forall public assistance to include Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, acupuncture, free cell phone with 205 minute a month limit, hot rock therapy,(have to live in California) and a plaque from the DNC Debbie wahtshername Shultz as an official, "Victim."
If I had known I was going to get all this free stuff, I would have become a Tea Party Member sooner.
I knew Joe Biden had to be good for something.

Anthony| 8.4.11 @ 3:11PM

Listening to Rush today, apparently one member of the Washington governing class, to wit, Marco Rubio, whom I find to be the kind of pol we need more of, has said what many of us have been saying for years.
Leftism, especially the virulent form practiced by Obozo, Reid, and Pelosi, is inimicable to our constitutional form of government and our belief in the individual and private sector wealth and job growth.
The left are redistributive Marxists, and Rubio is wrong in saying both concepts are honorable in their desires for America. Perhaps its the pol in him that cannot allow him to speak the real truth, unlike Palin and Bachmann, our real leaders.
We cannot find common ground with these people, there is no happy middle ground, no purple, as the rest of the Washington establish tells us, so they can kick the can down the road until after they've left Washington, when the shit hits the fan.
We are at war with a philosophy that is hell bent on the destruction of America; closing our eyes and wishing otherwise will not make the problem go away.
Already the left is blaming us for potential violence, yet their detructive policies are never questioned as being the very source of this potential violence. Nothing the left do ever has any consequences, have you noticed? How does one deal with such deliberate irrationality?
Either we take this countryback in 2012, or America is finished.

Bill| 8.4.11 @ 4:08PM

There COULD be one lasting racial consequence of the Barack Obama presidency; that consequence being that, after this experience, who will vote for another black candidate for President?

simon templar| 8.4.11 @ 4:22PM

What the hell does that suppose to mean? I would. If he is a true conservative and can think past racial politics, he is in. I can think of half a dozen people who fit the bill and are 1o thousand times more competent than this poser we have now.

Bill| 8.4.11 @ 4:26PM

That's one.

Pat| 8.4.11 @ 4:15PM

Thomas Friedman is mistaken in his statement noted above: Redneck Hezbollah, a large group of independent American voters who support the Dead Constitution, are not in any way affiliated with the GOP. The Tea Party movement, Redneck Hezbollah’s political arm, is seen as a direct threat to the current and continued “Two and a Half Parties” dominance of the American political scene. The stated goal of Redneck Hezbollah is to restore the Dead Constitution as the fundamental cornerstone of American law and government, a prospect which frightens those establishment members who support the Living Constitution, our modern, loosely worded guidelines for responsible government.

Prof. Hiram Kinnedy the IV, of Harvard University, recently wrote an essay revealing the Dead Constitution is actually a myth. The so-called Founding Fathers were no more than a hard drinking group of Masons, Rosicrucians and supporters of the Illuminati who wrote down their drunken debates in a document known today as the Constitution by a few discredited historians. The actual document forming our present government was drafted by a group of colonial scholars, predominantly liberated women, but with a representative sampling of racial and ethnic minorities.

Nor did Americans ever fight a so-called “revolution”, Prof. Kinnedy goes on to say; in fact, colonial Americans didn’t own or know how to use a firearm. The British were overwhelmed and driven back with a long series of reasonably worded pamphlets, Op-Ed features and letters to the editor, eventually leading to their complete withdrawal from the then named American Colonies.

Is there a chance the Dead Constitution will form the basis of our government in the near future? “Not very likely”, says Prof. Kinnedy the IV, “supporters of the Dead Constitution are dreamers who mistakenly believe hard and fast principles are necessary and vital in support of good government. Such idealists are unlikely to prevail”.

simon templar| 8.4.11 @ 4:27PM

If you are trying to be funny you are not. If you are not, some appropriate and well deserved name calling is in order....you are a filthy, traitorous, vile, and evil hater of the United States and all freedom loving people. You should thank God we are not sitting in the same room right now.

Pat| 8.4.11 @ 5:20PM

Simon

As a child, you were anally probed by aliens, right?

George True| 8.4.11 @ 6:06PM

Pat:

I think your tin foil hat isn't working very well anymore. Better get a new one.

Bob Grant| 8.4.11 @ 6:47PM

Pat,

Perhaps Simon was anally raped by aliens ONCE as a child while walking down a deserted road one summer night but that's no excuse for your long-term (and steamy) relationship with said aliens.

Pot calling the Kettle?

Arch| 8.4.11 @ 5:24PM

What truly bothers Matthews & associates is that while they call Tea Party supporters terrorists, Tea baggers, jihadis, etc., they know what they really are, "Likely voters."

steve| 8.7.11 @ 2:29PM

As many of you may not Know Mr Matthews Suffers from a deadly Disease. Yes He suffers from terminal smugness. The main symptom is a tingling up your leg When you hear your masters voice. There is no known cure. However a daily dose of Humble Pie or Heated crow seems to help those so afflicted, However in Mr Matthews case it's hopeles since an IQ of more thn 3 is required .

ONTIME| 8.4.11 @ 5:58PM

The panic is setting in for the libs and commies and all the guns are turned toward the group that has demonstrated commonsense, logic and hope forthis nation, The Tea Party and the Conservatives. The Republican RINO's have again sold the party members, the platform and the nation out again and they are so happy they could compromise everything this nation believes in and lie out right to CYA.. damn the torpedoes, wreck'em all...

I know this coming election is going to determine the fate of this nation, we will either pick up and reform the politics of this nation for freemarket, capitalism and the pursuit of happiness or we will doom ourselves to the socialistic oppression of Europe and move toward the dark ages. One way or the other there is going to be a battle royal and I will be on the side of a Republic as outlined by our Constitution....

Hawker 1| 8.4.11 @ 6:28PM

The more scared the libs get of the rise of conserv.s via the Tea Party the louder they get .
Keep it up libs it only increases the interest in what we are saying. Smaller Gov. less spending of Tax payers dollars on gov. programs that does nothing but support lib. gov. workers .
I look forward to the 2012 elections and see how all this works out.

LegacyAmerica | 8.4.11 @ 6:30PM

Good article.

It's easy for some people to launch into name calling and invective when they are opposed, and in this case when they realize they are losing ground.

"They prefer the good old days when debt could skyrocket without dispute..." and a stock market that nose-dives over 500 pts. 4%. They've got both today.

TheRightIsAnythingBut| 8.4.11 @ 6:33PM

Americans for Prosperity, the conservative advocacy group backed by billionaires Charles and David Koch, has been accused of attempting to suppress Democratic voter turnout in the Wisconsin Senate recall elections.

Patch.com reported that Charles Shultz, a Democrat who lives in the 10th Senate District, received an absentee ballot application form last week from AFP that contained incorrect information on it. The form instructed him to mail it back to the wrong location by Aug. 11 -- two days after the recall election in his district between Sen. Sheila Harsdorf (R) and Shelly Moore (D) is set to take place, on Aug. 9.

Politico obtained a copy of the AFP mailer, which was also distributed to voters in the 2nd District.

The Wisconsin Democratic Party filed a formal complaint Tuesday with the state's Government Accountability Board over the issue, accusing AFP of "falsely representing the time frame" for the upcoming August 9 recall election. Shultz filed his own complaint with the GAB on Saturday.

AFP may also be getting involved in the increasingly heated ad wars that have been leading up to the recall elections. According to One Wisconsin Now, AFP has reportedly purchased over $150,000 in television ad time in the Green Bay, Madison and Milwaukee areas.

Ray| 8.4.11 @ 6:52PM

Humm, accusations, that sounds familiar. Let me know if you find any actual PROOF!

George S| 8.4.11 @ 7:13PM

Politico obtained "a copy"... so that is where Dan Rather is working nowadays?

W| 8.4.11 @ 7:26PM

Right/David, when are you going to admit you lied about Justice Scalia when you deliberately edited his quote?
Don't believe anything posted by this SEIU rep, check it out, and ask for authority

Ray| 8.4.11 @ 6:50PM

It's the Tea Party assults, part duex. This is just the ploy the media, and the entrenched politicians, on both sides of the isle, tried shortly before the 2010 elections. Does anyone remember how well that worked out? The term "shellacking" comes to mind. I wonder if the "establishment" is ready for a second coat of shellack?

Cpm| 8.4.11 @ 8:15PM

I knew Biden was of dubious mental capacity, and he had thousands of hairplugs implanted in his scalp, but TWO "craniotomies"? So democrats think that it is OK for the guy "a heartbeat away from the presidency" to have his skull opened up twice and who knows what done to the contents therein? Since it isn't customary to put stuff in, evidence certainly points to things taken out.

antidote| 8.4.11 @ 8:56PM

Keep up the good work, teabaggers, you will guarantee another 4 years of Obama.

antidote| 8.4.11 @ 8:56PM

Keep up the good work, teabaggers, you will guarantee another 4 years of Obama.

steve| 8.7.11 @ 2:33PM

Dear Mr Imanidiot 4 more years of Obama? Sounds more like jail term than anything else

Bubba| 8.4.11 @ 9:04PM

What we're dealing with are addicts heaping vitriol on those that would deprive them of their fix. We're way beyond reasoned debate here. To them, it's personal.

Son of Liberty| 8.4.11 @ 10:34PM

What people fear the most they lash out at the strongest. Progressives, like Chris Matthews realize that the greatest threat to their survival is the Tea Party. That grassroots movement of intelligent, God-fearing and America loving people is the only thing out there that has the ability to end the Progressives 70 year reign in American politics (and their systematic assault that is intended to destroy the America of the Founding Fathers) and send the Progressives into history and the history books never to return.

So naturally the Progressives are going to do everything in their power to try to destroy the Tea Party. Cheer up Tea Party members. The louder, nastier and more vile the Progressives get, the more we know we are winning.

Son of Liberty| 8.4.11 @ 10:34PM

POST American| 8.4.11 @ 11:25PM

-------------------BOTTOM LINE---------------------

Another round of Murdoch/Tavistock
sourced DIS-traction, no more , no less.

----UPDATES----

A rare report allowed out of the scene of
the perhaps the greatest, pro-active world
de-pop op os ALLL time in Fukishima.
Radiation levels pulsing out are higher, far
higher, than ever before.

----MEANWHILE----

Those MASSIVE tunnel projects from Pigeon
Lake British Columbia to North Asia are NOW confirmed.

Likewise, the FACT that RED China has been
given bases on BOTH coasts, AND the Panama
Canal --which feeds into the NAFTA super highway.

Likewise 50 square miles
for a RED China sovereignty zone south of Boise.
This the first of several.

--AND NOW, reports of a whole series of
holding and interrogation facilities all along
our northern border with Canada.

SO, keep on listening to Bob Grant!

--------Keep ON watching 'FOX 'News'!

------------Keep giving place to the Bush family!

------------------Keep sucking off the Rockefellers!

----------------------JUST KEEP A GOIN'

Cpm| 8.5.11 @ 2:12AM

Freak.

solea | 8.5.11 @ 3:46AM

frakes

POST America| 8.5.11 @ 11:51PM

---FREE -----k

YES, YES ---INDEED.

---Take heart!

You may actually be getting through your
Rockefeller media EUGENICS mind control afterall!

-----------------------Cheers!

steve| 8.7.11 @ 1:49PM

As A Boy I watched my father reach into a tree Stump and grab an opossum by the tail and pull it out. All the while it was twisting and screeching trying to bite anything it could get near. But my father maintained a firm grip holding on and refusing to let go no matter how hard the struggle was.He knew this was our supper and we needed the meat to survive. This is our struggle today . The left wing radicals who control the demorcratic party today are just like that opossum . Screeching and attacking because they know this is a death match.They see that there is an awakening in the american people today. The Lie is exposed. Hidden behind the False talk of compassion is The true agenda "power". Always we have fought The rule of Kings.We crossed an ocean to be rid of them . But still they were there always preaching safety under the rule of the king. Don't worry they say the rule of the King will feed you,protect you,All the king wants is a little of what you produce. Just bend to the will of the king and if you don't then the king will force you to submitt. The ruling ELITE depise you. You the ORDINARY American. Who works hard to provide for your family.How dare you Speak Up. You're too stupid to know how to stand on your own. You need us to tell you each and every step to take After all we love you "you stupid little idiot" These Elitists were there licking the mud off of the English Army's Boot during our begginings. Letting them sleep with their wives so they would be safe.Laughing at the TEA PARTY . So now we come full circle it is ours to choose Safety and rule of the king or to walk upright as free men . I know not what course others may take But as for me give me LIBERTY or give me death.

deng| 8.8.11 @ 9:36PM

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