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Extremism and the Democratic Party
Extremism in the defense of big government is a vice.
Democratic leaders and liberal commentators declaim against the Tea Party members of the Republican House and Grover Norquist for the no-new-taxes pledge to which many Republican Senators and House members have subscribed and have promised their constituents in return for their vote. They are lambasted for their “extremism” in the debt ceiling debate. How convenient for the Democrats to be able to point to specific targets of their wrath. Would that conservatives and Republicans could point to a particular group of Democrats or a particular pledge Democrats take as evidence of their extremism. The reason conservatives and Republicans cannot point to such a group or pledge is because extremism on the Left infects the entire Democratic Party.
• It’s extremism, the Democrats say, to oppose new taxes. It’s not extremism, they say, to support new taxes.
• It’s extremism to oppose “fair” taxes on “the rich.” It’s not extremism to continue allowing 50% of the population to pay no income taxes while “the rich” pay over 70% of individual federal income taxes.
• It’s extremism to cut back on entitlements. It’s not extremism to retain, or enlarge, entitlements until they can no longer be paid for and threaten the economy of the United States and the freedom of all Americans.
• It’s extremism to reduce the size (dollars, employees, footprint) of the Federal government. It’s not extremism to constantly and consistently seek to expand its size, ever increasing the percentage of GDP obtained in taxes and spent. It’s simply never extremism to support more federal spending.
• It’s extremism to plan to debate the budget frequently (with Continuing Resolutions and debt ceilings) so as to interfere with other business of Congress (so said Senate Majority Leader Reid on Friday, July 29). It’s not extremism for the Democratic Senate not to pass a budget or appropriations bills. It’s not extremism for the Democratic President to submit a budget that is rejected by the Senate in a 97-0 vote.
• It’s extremism to work assiduously and seriously to reduce the deficit. It’s not extremism to retain the deficit and borrow 40% of every dollar spent by the Federal government — borrowing much of it from Communist China and the oil cartel.
But this issue of what is extremism does not exist only in the debate on budgets and spending. Consider immigration:
• It’s extremism to install a fence (calling it the American version of the Berlin Wall!) at the southern border to prevent illegal immigration and illegal trafficking in drugs and weapons. And it’s racist to boot. It’s not extremism to let persons cross the southern border illegally on foot to obtain jobs in the United States while persons of other ethnicities and races in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East wait their lawful turn.
• It’s extremism to disrupt families by deporting some members while allowing other members, often American-citizen children, to remain in the United States. It’s not extremism to let family members remain separated for decades from their immediate family members who are citizens and lawful permanent residents.
• It’s extremism for a state (Arizona) to defend its borders (à la Arizona), an extremism which must be attacked by the Federal Government. It’s not extremism for a state (Utah) and cities to provide “sanctuary” to illegal immigrants and let the Federal Government give this violation of the rule of law a pass. It’s not extremism to allow illegal immigrants to build up a kind of equity so that the longer they’re here, the more “right” they have to stay — including reduced tuition at taxpayer-funded universities.
And consider campaign finance:
• It’s extremism to allow corporations to help finance political campaigns. It’s not extremism to violate the clear language of the First Amendment by barring, regulating, and restricting money in political campaigns.
We could continue with issue after issue: same-sex marriage, home ownership and banking, the environment. Tea Party members, Republicans, a host of independents, support the principles of the American Constitution. Their extremism, if such it be called, is like that proclaimed by Senator Goldwater when he accepted the 1964 nomination for president: “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!” It is simply not true that, under this Constitution, every manner of national problem should be considered for some form of a federal solution. To think otherwise, as do the Democrats, is a violation of our American liberties which we are called to defend.
In announcing his candidacy for the Republican nomination for president in 2012, former Governor Jon Huntsman said about President Obama: “[T]he question each of us wants the voters to answer is who will be the better President; not who’s the better American.” Maybe a presidential candidate needs to be gracious to his prospective opponent, particularly one who nominated him as ambassador to China. Standing in the same spot in 1980, Ronald Reagan was not as kind to President Carter.
No, Governor Huntsman, the American people do want as president the candidate who is “the better American,” the one who will better support the U.S. Constitution as it is written, the one who will promote and defend American freedoms over the statism and European style of government of the Democratic Party. American values are found, in the first instance, in the U.S. Constitution; they are not the amorphous, flexible, platitudinous “American values” espoused by President Obama and the Democratic Party. It is not enough to be born in America, to be educated here even by the most elite institutions, or to serve in the Congress, to be an American. Americans adhere to the Constitution.
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Stormzeye| 8.1.11 @ 7:10AM
Excellent article, however I disagree with your point that Statists are looking for a "federal" solution to everything. They are looking for a "national" solution. Romneycare is a "federal" approach and Obamacare, a "national" approach. We all know which one will sink the republic and which one is just a failed experiment. Conservatives understand the beauty of a federal republic as opposed to the concentration of power in the hands of a national government. Progressives must hate federalism.
massmile | 8.2.11 @ 11:46PM
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Timothy L. Pennell| 8.1.11 @ 7:33AM
The fish ROTS, from the head, down.
Remember?
The LEADER of the Democrat Party is ACORN. He's SEIU. He's all the SCUM, that loads up in buses, and heads to people's HOMES, to TERRORIZE their Families, in an effort to SHAKWE THEM DOWN.
The LEADER of the Democrats is the COMMUNIST - Frank Marshall Davis. He's the MARXIST - Jeremiah Wright. He's the TERRORISTS - William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn and Khalid Rashidi. He's Louis Farrakhan, and he's the Black Panthers.
He's his Atheist/Communist Mother, and he's his America Hating, Muslim/Marxist Father.
He's the UNIONS that TOOK OVER and RANSACKED the Capitol Building in Madison Wisconsin, when the Republican Governor implemented his PROMISED Reforms. He's the Politicians who RAN AWAY and HID in another State, to prevent the WILL OF THE PEOPLE from being carried out. He's every ABORTIONIST MONSTER, who makes a living, BUTCHERING little babies, inside their Mother's womb. he's all of the FREAKS in the Gay Pride Parade. All of the FELONS in our Prisons. And he's everyone in America who HATES THIS COUNTRY.
And they love him.
You will NEVER see American Values, from him. He is NOT an American.
I don't care if he WAS born in Hawaii.
He's NOT one of us.
He's the Ultimate FREAK, in a Party full of FREAKS.
GOD help this Country.
chuck| 8.1.11 @ 7:51AM
Well stated, one of your best. An alien in the White House. May God help us, but we have abandoned Him.
Al Adab| 8.1.11 @ 11:16AM
Chuck:
As you and many others here are practicing Christians, allow me to ask for your prayers, on this first day of Ramadan, for the millions of fellow Christians in Muslim lands now more than ever in danger for their faith. Ramadan serves to expose them to those around them and puts their businesses and families in danger. Now, with the continuing rebellions all across the Islamic world, they need the prayers of Christians around the world. Dar-al-Islam can be a dangerous place for believers (non-believers if you prefer) during this time. Think of them and submit them to G*D.
Michael L. Hauschild| 8.1.11 @ 9:09PM
Ask, but you have already received.
W| 8.1.11 @ 10:05PM
Al Adab, well said, we should also include the ordinary muslims forced to live under the autocratic Muslim religous regimes.
I read that "Adab" means courtesey, decorum, and urbanity. Your comments are fine examples of that.
Obummer| 8.2.11 @ 10:46PM
suck up much?
From what I've read of your posts you seem to be pretty nasty yourself.
W| 8.3.11 @ 10:52PM
only to those who deserve it, thanks for reading
irish19| 8.1.11 @ 10:53PM
Bravo, sir!!
Mimi| 8.1.11 @ 7:43AM
It appears on the face of it that their relentless ways will wear us down......BUT, they are on the wrong side of values.and HISTORY . The wise and good among us see this and lately after this particular administration abused their POWER to the point of fiscal collapse and nation destruction to such a degree....all who have eyes see the LIGHT!! The stench will over-take them!
The slick and the sly have overplayed their hand...to such blatent a height...NO honest and true American will stand for it anymore!
A MARKED change is in order and we ll with good sense KNOW IT!
Redstateboy| 8.1.11 @ 8:23AM
This Neeeeds to be read (and into the record) from the floor of both House and Senate.
C. S. P. Schofield| 8.1.11 @ 8:29AM
While I agree with the general thrust of this article, I also think that the Democrat tendency to label every point of view but their own is a symptom of another problem that the Democrats have; they have forgotten how to deal with actual opposition. Having seized control of the terms of debate in the early 1970's, they have forgotten how to have an argument. Blanket accusations of being in league with the devil may energize their loopy-left base, but the don't CONVINCE anybody who isn't already a True Believer.
Louis Jenkins| 8.1.11 @ 8:59AM
If loving America, and putting it first over all insults and injuries is extremism, then I will embrace it. Far better to be an extremist than a milk toast bed wetting liberal; those who would do our country harm are the extremists, but they say they are the norm. America first, foremost.
Anthony| 8.1.11 @ 9:23AM
We are already in a civil war and have been in one, albeit, a cold, incremental one, for decades.
There is no compromise or finding common ground with leftist fanatics, especially with the likes of reprehensible bastards like Reid and Schumer.
Fanaticism coupled with moral and intellectual bankruptcy is a toxic recipe for a complete and total breakdown in our society.
The Washington establishment continues to play musical chairs, hoping the music will not stop until they have left office.
We need to tell them, Ds and Rs alike, the music has stopped, and we will hold all of them accountable, very soon.
Michael Tomlinson| 8.1.11 @ 9:40AM
Politics has been and will always be civil war without the bloodshed.
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 5:15PM
You're right about that, but our side enjoys devouring its own.
darcy| 8.1.11 @ 7:29PM
Where were you when the establishment wing of the party ate its own? the base? by pandering to them during campaign season and treating them, as commenters like Oldefarte do now, like cousins no one wants at the wedding?
Eat its own? This is a bridge too far, Margie. It's quite alright for the Old Guard to make nice with the base while campaigning and then pretend they don't exist -- but when the base takes a stand against their being frozen out of the debate, they're accused of "eating their own."
If you're the voice of the establishment and have decided that the status quo is just fine and we mustn't, absolutely mustn't jeopardize Republican power no matter what, then I'd say you're a mighty fine Republican.
I only hope it's not too late to overwhelm the Old Guard, mighty fine Republicans, with new, conservative blood. Or, the party's finished.
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 8:57PM
Go to Hell, darcy.
Michael L. Hauschild| 8.1.11 @ 9:11PM
Go to Heaven, Darcy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joseph| 8.1.11 @ 10:20PM
I am new here. Why you say Go to Hell to someone you disagree. You say you a Christian. Why would Christina say Go to Hell.
darcy| 8.1.11 @ 10:40PM
Margie:
You can go to Learnliberty.org and click on the video entitled: How Big is the US Debt?
Doctor Right| 8.1.11 @ 9:34AM
Whenever I see Schumer's face, I feel like a resident of Oceania looking at Emmanuel Goldstein during the daily "Two Minute's Hate"...
...Can't help it. The guy makes my stomach turn.
Michael Tomlinson| 8.1.11 @ 9:41AM
Doc there is only one solution a bloodless slaughter of Democrats at the polls next November. He'll still get his ugly mug on the news, but you'll have the joy knowing he is insignificant.
Drunken Sailor| 8.1.11 @ 11:41AM
I get the same reactin to Dick "Turban" Durbin.
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 4:46PM
Harry Reid takes the cake. His appearance is that of a weak old man with spectacles, but the man's as wicked as they come.
Michael Tomlinson| 8.1.11 @ 9:36AM
Hopefully, self-described conservatives like James Antle III and Sarah Palin who have shown a proclivity to support or stated they would support "conservative" Democrats now realize there is no such thing as a conservative Democrat -- they're just degrees of extremism.
TrueBlue| 8.1.11 @ 12:43PM
There are actually still a few old school democrats left, they just stay in hiding most of the time to avoid confrontation with their own party. I give to you Senator Zell Miller.
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 4:49PM
Yeah Michael but Sarah Palin is nothing like Antle.
Sarah.
Sarah's not a non-interventionist, and she is pro Israel and for a strong military defense.
No comparison there.
Clint| 8.1.11 @ 9:50AM
We Tea Party Patriots Are In A Media War.
The Democraps, Their Mainstream Media Agendists & GOP RINO-CINO's & Their Flunkies Attempt To Smear Up & Marginalize The Tea Party.
The Tea Party Can & Will Deal With It.
Improvise, Adapt, Overcome
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & Now.
Stand & Fight.
Al Adab| 8.1.11 @ 11:11AM
The two competing philosophic views of proper government are no longer compatible. One posits an activist, statist, central planned system; the other proposes a limited intervention, free market, representative system. They have become antithetical.
Voters need look to history and examine which system is better suited for the happiness and freedom of the citizenry. If those are in fact our priority, rather than a paternalism which limits expression and opportunity in the name of security and a misunderstood equality, then our course is clear.
Those among us who find their safety in government financing and control may choose one way, but those of us who prefer Liberty will pick another. "Choose you this day whom you will serve..."
darcy| 8.1.11 @ 1:30PM
Well stated, Al Adab. I only hope that those among our populace who have been shorn of the dignity that self-reliance inculcates, who have traded their freedom for supposed and illusory security, will wake up to reality before it's too late and see that central-planned security is first of all slavery to the state and secondly, it is the road to tyranny and all manner of insecurity and bloodshed as the 100 million people murdered in the 20th Century by totalitarians testifies to.
beebop| 8.2.11 @ 5:37AM
If you want to see what we up against, take a walk through a grocery store the first of the month. Since the first three days coincide with the arrival of manna from 'bama, it is pretty safe to say that this system is way to institutionalized to disappear during the term of one good antidote to the present regime. I am sure that the grocers are just as relieved as the institutionalized dependent that the ceiling has been raised. Most of them are so indoctrinated into the "bowl in hand" way of thought -- including free breakfast and lunch at school, government provided cell phones for "emergencies" in the hands of school children -- that they see no motivation to consider capitalism as anything worthy of aspiration. If you spend your formative years sitting on the sidelines and having "stuff" handed to you, you develop no skills to do anything other than take. This is why democrats take advantage of the poor, ignorant and marginalized.
R Brebner| 8.1.11 @ 12:06PM
Great Article. It always amazes me how the Dems that scream for tolerance show none to those with opposing views. That the Dems who call others hateful for views on gay marriage and immigration can in the same breath use words like Rethuglican and Conservitard. To quote Doc Holliday from the movie Tombstone "Their hypocrisy knows no bounds".
Oldefarte| 8.1.11 @ 12:34PM
James' article is extremely OUTSTANDING and GOLDEN TRUTH! It's also 'extremism' for some of these so-called tea partiers here to verbally smear other conservative Republican politicians who are trying to accompolish the conservative goals that most of us want/desire, with their Floydishly hillbilly euphemisms. As this article indicates, IT'S THE DEMOCRATS, STUPIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clint| 8.1.11 @ 1:08PM
It's RINO-CINO's Too.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & Now.
Stand & Fight.
darcy| 8.1.11 @ 1:55PM
One more time, Oldefarte: If the Republicans, these past 80 years, had actually opposed progressivism and fought to preserve our Constitutional liberties, then we could not have descended as far into the abyss of statism as we have.
There's no getting around it: Republicans have either been inept, lacking in passion, bereft of principle, on the take for their own self-interest, or convinced themselves of the inevitability of statism as the replacement for our Constitutional Republic. Regardless, they do not merit our blanket support; it is not the Party we should be fighting for, but our country. And if the Republicans are betraying the country by permitting the Democrat agenda to prevail -- for any of the reasons I cited above -- then they deserve to be replaced by a true party of conservatives that will have as its mission the dismantling of the progressive project. As it is, the Republicans themselves have demonstrated by their repeated failure to halt spending and downsize the federal behemoth that they do not intend ever to do it.
I work at the precinct level of the Republican Party. I can tell you of a certainty that the "Old Guard" is holding on tenaciously to its power. And by Old Guard I do indeed mean that portion of the party that intends to maintain the status-quo in regards to 'spending and crony capitalism' -- the impulse behind their lack of vigor when it comes to staring down socialist measures put forth by the Democrat Party.
darcy| 8.1.11 @ 2:06PM
I give you, Oldefarte, the latest Republican betrayal put forth by Mitch McConnell just today:
"1) Obama gets his full lifeline, long-term debt limit increase that will take him beyond the election ($2.1-2.4 trillion), without making any transformational concession. There is no realistic roadmap to entitlement reform; not a single agency or program, domestic or mandatory, will be eliminated; Obamacare is off limits; there will be no balanced budgets, ever. We will still add trillions more to the debt over the next ten years. Yes, there is a second tranche that will trigger the latter $1.2-1.5 trillion increase, but unlike previous versions of Boehner’s plan, Republicans have no control over that trigger to use it as a precondition."
You can read the whole sorry story over at Redstate.com in the article posted at 12:01pm by Daniel Horowitz.
Anthony| 8.1.11 @ 2:41PM
Darcy's two posts are absolutely spot on. For decades, the leaders of the two parties have been co- stewards of the demise of America's Constitutional Republic, with the Ds as the intense, active destroyers, and the Rs the timid, yet equally destructive participants.
Obama has gotten the $2.5 T he needs to steal the election, and no further debt discussion before the 2012 election. The Rs handed Obozo the 2012 election on a silver platter and accelerated the demise of America at the same time.
Washington is totally and completely corrupt. All this bullcrap was nothing more than a kabuki dance, all staged to fool Americans.
We are in a civil war with the destructive Marxists, in which one side must prevail before America dies. Face reality folks.
Let me amend Clint's final admonition, to hell with "Stand & Fight", I say ATTACK.
Oldefarte| 8.1.11 @ 3:39PM
All of you are repeating the standard Clintisms of this tea party BS. The tea party is NOT a PARTY, it's a MOVEMENT [and a fractured one at that]. I'm not critisizing their ourstanding political contribution BUT THEY ARE NOT A PARTY. If they conservatively take over the Republican Party from within, so be it, but they will need the political monetary support that Republicans [and RINOS also] substantially contribute. These tea partiers do not have substantial political money that is needed to successfully elect their candidates without wealthy Republicans' monetary help. DOUBLEWIDES DON'T EQUAL HUGE BANK ACCOUNTS, to put it bluntly [if untrue Sharon Angle would be in DC instead of Harry Reid]. So the tea partiers had better refrain from their stupid-asinine insulting aganda being put forth here and start appealing, not demeaning. The Clints of this world ain't gonna cut it unless he has more than a couple of nickles in his bludjeaned pockets, so following the Clint lead will take you right off the cliff's edge. Once again, there are only TWO POLITICAL PARTIES AND CHOICES IN MOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR [and I hope all of you make the right one, for the wrong one will result in the destruction of this country; or the total conversion of same from a capitalistic one to a socialsistic one]. THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!
Clint| 8.1.11 @ 6:36PM
Obviously, RINO-CINO Fart Man,You're No Tea Party Patriot.
Otherwise, You Would Know That We Tea Party Patriots Neither Need Nor Want Designated Leaders.
Aaaand, Our Candidates Are Just The Hired Help.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & Now.
Stand & Fight.
Oldefarte| 8.1.11 @ 4:00PM
Darcy, the Rs did not PERMIT THE DEMOCRAT AGENDA TO PREVAIL, the stupid voters of this country did so. After the R's successes of Nixon, Reagan and two Bushes, the STUPIDS of this country elect Bill Clinton and now Barack Obama? How in the hades is that Rs fault? The voters could have voted for Dole or McCain, but NOOOOOO, they had to STUPIDLY vote for HOPE & CHANGE, remember? And where did that take us....to this bottom of the fiscal/financial toilet that we're wading in presently. If McCain would have been elected, WELFARECARE and NON-STIMULUS TO STATE/LOCAL UNIONIZED GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES TO MAINTAIN THEIR UNION JOBS AT THE EXPENSE TO TAXPAYERS would not have been legislated, thereby blowing up the defecit/debt. Obama [and Pilosi,Reid, Schumer, Clyburn, Durbin etc] brought those thing about [not McCain, nor any Republican except yankee Snowe etc] a ''''''DEMOCRAT'''''. Republicans are no saints by any stretch, but at least they're not radical/extremists/socialists/domestic terrorists, like Democrats are!!!!!!!!!
darcy| 8.1.11 @ 4:43PM
That says everything that needs to be said: We could have had Dole or McCain.
I rest my case.
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 5:06PM
So to you, Obama is better?
At least we would have had a Republican administration in the W.H.
But if it's just that you do not even want a Republican party at all~ and want a Toddard or a Clint/Tim* non-interventionist, anti-Israel, blame America First party~ then forget it because that's not going to happen.
Are you one of them?
Are you a third party Paul-bot?
darcy| 8.1.11 @ 6:58PM
Where do you get that I would prefer Obama?
Where?
A "Republican" administration, btw, means NOTHING if that Republican administration is pursuing statist goals.
Open your eyes.
I've told you before, but in case you've forgotten -- the last time was only this past weekend -- Libertarians are more dangerous to our Republic than Republicans have shown themselves to be. The most evil party is the Democrat Party, and I'd rather cut off my hand than vote for any of them.
If you can remember that when you read my comments, it will serve to give you a context for my fury over the failure of the "opposition" party to actually oppose!
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 8:58PM
See my above post.
beebop| 8.2.11 @ 5:41AM
I have to agree with you in this. Who wants to defend the Bush II spending?
Gary B| 8.1.11 @ 7:47PM
Oldefart,
With all due respect, being grateful that establishment Republicans are not Democrats just doesn't work any more. Having only a lesser-of-evils choice at the polls is maddening. And reach-across-the-asile Republicans make me want to kill something. When was the list time you heard of a Democrat reaching across the aisle? Never.
Regardless of the sales pitch, the practical purpose of Republicans has been to offer a fake fight, which has legitimized Democrat policies. "We had a good debate and came to a compromise." In other words, we went into a back room and sold you down the river.
The Tea Party represents decades of anger over this. No more go along to get along. It's the Constitution or the highway.
irish19| 8.1.11 @ 11:01PM
Preach it! The establishment rs are nothing more than dem-lite. They don't really seem to disagree with the direction the country is heading, just the time it takes to get there.
Thank God the Tea Party (movement) is now holding their feet to the fire.
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 4:54PM
"And if the Republicans are betraying the country by permitting the Democrat agenda to prevail -- for any of the reasons I cited above -- then they deserve to be replaced by a true party of conservatives that will have as its mission the dismantling of the progressive project."
Nope. They deserve to be replaced with conservative Republicans!
No third party!
darcy| 8.1.11 @ 7:05PM
No third party? That all depends. I prefer that we not have a third party -- but if history is any guide, you can take this to the bank: the Republican Party establishment will NOT give up their power to the base, to the conservative wing. This means we will have Republican Party statists forever at the helm of the party, forever going-along-to-get-along, forever enjoying the fruits of privilege, status, and power, without ever DOWNSIZING government, because they know that the Oldefartes and the Margies of the party have no other option but to vote for them because there is no alternative except outright Marxism which is what the Democrat Party has morphed into being.
And you think I want/prefer Obama? NONONONONONONONONONONO
I DEMAND OPPOSITION
NOT IDIOT, COMPLICIT COMPROMISERS.
Oldefarte| 8.1.11 @ 3:20PM
No, it's the Democrats FIRST/INITIALLY [due to their ''''''EXTREMISM'''''] and then/thereafter, the RINOS. Understand that you place the HORSE before/in front of the CART!!!!!!!
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 5:13PM
A lot of these people are for a third party and that is why they trash Republicans~ they are not interested in a strong Republican party~ they want it destroyed, so of course this is their modus operandi.
They have to trash anybody who wants to keep the party.
Clint| 8.1.11 @ 6:32PM
The GOP RINO-CINO Ruling Elite & Their RINO-CINO Apologist Flunkies Want To Keep The GOP Away From Real Conservatism.
These Are The Arlen Specter/John McCain RINO-CINO Flunky Traitor Bastards To Real Conservatism.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & Now.
Stand & Fight.
Oldefarte| 8.3.11 @ 4:25PM
Clint, why don't you proclamate some original, rational thoughts, instead of polly-parroting your same old, worn-out VERBAL IDIOTIC CRAP [and maybe just maybe you might stand a chance of a convincing argument]!!!!!
Gary B| 8.1.11 @ 7:51PM
Margie,
Let's see how the primaries shape up. That's where the party is shaped. After seeing the reaction to this blatantly bogus budget deal, I'm sure some RINOs feel like they're on even thinner ice.
Margie| 8.1.11 @ 9:02PM
Gary B.,
You're a nice guy.
The punks and liars make me sick here.
They can go to Hell with their disgdting false accusations that I'm part of the problem and a freaking RINO.
I hope they rot in Hell for their lies.
I'll keep voting for conservatives that run in the party while these STUPID holier than thou PUNKS sit on their rear ends and refuse to vote Republican because it isn't one of "theirs"~ one of their Paul-bot imbeciles.
AmSpec is over-run with a bunch of lowlife scum.
Michael L. Hauschild| 8.1.11 @ 9:14PM
I resemble that remark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 8.3.11 @ 4:33PM
Margie, I'm beginning to understand that. Whenever you attempt to explain to these morons that there are only two/2 political parties, they always come up with some unintelligent babble that makes no common sense [unless their desire is a third party of gun-tottin KILL-OR-BE-KILLED militia-types]. Teh dummies don't seem to get it through their thick craniums that to get elected to political office it TAKES MONEY, and lots of it. The two nickels that these fools probably can rub together will get them nowhere except the backyards of their double-wides. The philosopher Gump expressed it susinctly concerning STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!
solo| 8.1.11 @ 12:53PM
We all know that the democrats are the real root of America's problems. They are the true extremists by any definition of the term.
But....like the Vichey French cooperating with their Nazi occupiers, the GOP establishment (re; Boehner/McConnell and their ilk) are just as bad as they continue to sell us out for their own short-term political gain.
Not one of them can make the argument that they really believe that their feckless capitulation to the democrats is in any way of true benefit to The Republic or her people.
Tell the truth! Stop lending validation to the democrat lie that these are "cuts" because they know full well that these are not "cuts".
Oldefarte| 8.1.11 @ 3:48PM
No, I'll disagree that Rs are JUST AS BAD. In my book, the Great Society, the War on Poverty, Affordable Homes/Fannie/Freddie, Community Action Agencies, Acorn, etc [all Ds legislation/institutions] doesn not equate to Nixon's Watergate or to Reagan's destruction of the USSR. The former are called EXTREMISM-LIBERALISM, while the latter are called political mistakes [Nixon] and PATRIOTIC CAPITALISM. Anyone not knowing the difference is foolish!!!
OllieK| 8.1.11 @ 3:08PM
Barry Goldwater's brilliant statement that "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!" is one of my favorite quotes. We hear much too often in the state-run media about right wing extremism or extremists, and no one, not even the folks at Fox, ever bothers to define extremism in this context and it irritates me to no end. Your article absolutely nailed this, and I echo the sentiments of another reader that your article should be read into the Congressional Record for posterity. This is the kind of thing that needs to be repeated almost daily. And interviewees who are confronted by a Leftist who mentions "right wing extremism" should immediately be called to task to define it or to explain how the belief or activity is in any way "extreme." This will expose most of these Leftists as the extremists that they truly are.
Ore Gone| 8.1.11 @ 4:14PM
If we take the country back it will be in spite of the Huge Bank Rolls that the establishment R's have. If they find a candidate that doesn't play ball they withhold support and give it to someone else so as to keep their power game in play. This Good Ole boy system has nearly destroyed this country. What ever happened to being an American and doing what is good for the country? I see it from the new Rep.'s in the House but the Party is all about the party. Right now you see a Political system so caught up in the power struggle that it is like wolves fighting over a carcass. So busy fighting they let the carcass rot. They should be ashamed to call themselves American.
solo| 8.1.11 @ 5:14PM
I spoke not of Nixon or Reagan, so why the non-sequitur response?
I spoke of Boehner and McConnell "and their ilk".
It's damned hard to fight the good fight if you can't be honest about what you're fighting for.
Boehner and McConnel should just walk to the microphone and explain to the American people the truth:
"We are voting to expand government spending to the tune of another $7 Trillion over the next 10 years with no real cuts and no real promise of even the faux cuts we touted as our success.
Instead...we're going to appoint a commission so we can avoid any culpability for standing for anything substantial thus thwarting our constitutional duties you elected us to perform.
When the commission doesn't agree to a particular plan and the democrats block any other solution (and they will), the Bush Tax cuts will automatically expire on Jan 1 2013 and the military will automatically be gutted to the tune of a Half $Trillion."
It's leftist democrat wet dream and these two morons are out there trying to whip up votes for it!
Yeah....putting those two back in office will be a huge help to the Republic!
Al Adab| 8.1.11 @ 6:11PM
This is a battle the Conservatives have been fighting within the GOP since the 50's. The eastern establishment GOP has opposed the Conservative movement at every turn. Remember Rockefeller and Romney? Listen to what the great man once said, "Let's grow up Conservatives. If we want to take this party back... Let's get to work."
Gary B| 8.1.11 @ 7:55PM
Yup, they torpedoed Goldwater, but Reagan was too much for them. He went over their heads to the people. They really hated that. The RNC got even, though, by forcing Reagan to accept that new-world-order SOB Bush, the elder, who packed Reagan's administration with as many of their people as they could. I believe this is why Reagan was not able to make good progress in trimming the agencies back. But... he sure trimmed the Soviets back, didn't he?
Michael L. Hauschild| 8.1.11 @ 9:15PM
I was going to say something here to stand with Darcy, but that young lady seems to have everything under control.
Brittanicus| 8.1.11 @ 10:47PM
THINK?
Either party, Democrat, Republican are completely ignorant or just intentionally remain unconcerned about the massive expenditures for pandering to the illegal alien invasion. The federal debt ceiling and all 50 States have huge deficits from the illegal immigration occupation. Schools, health care and programs that is reducing America to a pauper nation. You as the American people must start yelling at the politicians in Washington, to demand they recognize that this issue is part of the discretionary spending. Only Rep. Michele Bachmann R-MN) Leader of the Tea Party Caucus, dares to speaks out about this issue, with a conviction that this is part of our national issues. The TEA PARTY membership can now be counted in the tens of million of ordinary citizens, who are black , Hispanic, White and other races. Bombard Congress with you voices, tell them no Amnesty, No Immigration Reform, no Sanctuary cities or States and No Dream Acts.
REMOVE ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THAT WILL CONSERVE TAXPAYER MONEY, AND MOVE US ON TOWARDS A BALANCED US TREASURY BUDGET AND THAT INCLUDES ALL 50 STATES WILL ARE SUFFERING AS WELL.
This needs to be repeated that When (Fair) analyzed the cost of illegal immigration and its nationwide deficit, they came up with a stunning figure of $113 billion dollars annually, while illegal alien revenue to the government coffers was a total amount of $13Billion dollars and change. Not included in these illegal foreign labors is wages leaving the country to foreign nations, estimated to be 46 Billion dollars? Our economy is sinking and the Obama administration is insisting on passage of another Amnesty failure. Heritage Foundation has stated that cost for processing another Amnesty expenditure is another 2.5 Trillion dollars.
Break down of revenue to support illegal migrants and illegal immigrants.
Federal Expenditures on Illegal Aliens
Education Title 1 program $1,332,900,000
Migrant education program $236,900,000
Title 111 program $538,000,000
Education Subtotal $2,107,800,000
Medical Emergency medical care $250,000,000
Fraudulent use of Medicaid $1,235,000,000
Medicaid cost of childbirth $1,238,100,000
Medicaid for children $1,626,800,000
other medical outlays $1,600,000,000
Medical Subtotal $5,949,900,000
Law enforcement Scaap compensation $330,000,000
Federal incarceration $678,400,000
Byrne grants $24,300,000
Detention and removal $2,545,000,000
Project safe neighborhoods $39,500,000
Residual ice functions $2,824,000,000
Exec. Office of immigration review $222,500,000
Southwest border prosecution $33,000,000
National Guard $642,000,000
Coast Guard $500,000,000
Law Enforcement Subtotal $7,838,700,000
Public assistance Free and reduced meal program $2,264,600,000
Temporary assist. Needy families $1,030,000,000
Housing assistance programs $637,000,000
Child care & development fund $633,000,000
Public Assistance Subtotal $4,564,600,000
General expenditures $8,184,400,000
TOTAL EXPENDITURE FOR US GOVERNMENT $28B, 645,400,000
State/Local Expenditures on Illegal Aliens ($ M)
Alabama $298 Illinois $4B,592 Montana $32 Rhode Island $278
Alaska $139 Indiana $608 Nebraska $262 S. Carolina $391
Arizona $2B,569 Iowa $350 Nevada $1B,191 S. Dakota $33
Arkansas $244 Kansas $442 New Hampshire $123 Tennessee $547
California $21B,756 Kentucky $280 New Jersey $3B,478 Texas $8B,878
Colorado $1B,451 Louisiana $224 New Mexico $608 Utah $453
Connecticut $957 Maine $41 New York $9B,479 Vermont $38
Wash D.C. $312 Maryland $1B,724 N. Carolina $2B,063 Virginia $1B,905
Delaware $305 Massachusetts. $1B, 862 N. Dakota $32
Washington State $1B, 510; Florida $5B,463 Michigan $929,
Ohio $563 W. Virginia. $31; Georgia $2B; 399 Minnesota,
$744 Oklahoma $465 Wisconsin $883.Hawaii $155 Mississippi.
$106 Oregon $705 Wyoming $51, Idaho $188 Missouri $338,
Penn. $1B,378
TOTAL STATE AND MUNICIPAL $83B,851
REVENUE INTO FEDERAL AND STATE TREASURIES FROM ILLEGAL ALIENS
Category federal State/local
Income -$2,302,800,000 $244,200,000
Social security $7,000,000,000
Medicare tax $1,637,100,000
Excise and miscellaneous $2,489,700,000
Employer (FUTA & income) $632,600,000
Property tax $1,378,000,000
Sales tax $2,333,000,000
TOTAL FEDERAL,STATE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT FROM ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS $ 13B, 235.000.000
NOW CALCULATE THIS! TAKE $13.235.000.000 FROM $113.296.000.000 = ( $110.061.400.000 )
IN TAXES AMERICANS SUPPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS ANNUALLY $110.061.400.000
If you as a taxpayer wants to keep paying financial support for 20 million illegal aliens outlaws, then you deserve higher taxes and loss of jobs. Read the projections of future years if our borders remain unsecured, or no tracking system for 40 percent of visa over stays, who disappear and all take American workers jobs. Go to the Heritage Foundation website, NumbersUSA or Judicial Watch and read for the dollar figures that will turn your stomach sour. This is a patriotic chance to help your fellow jobless countryman by Calling House and Senate Leadership NOW Call the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121
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Mojo| 8.2.11 @ 12:10AM
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George True| 8.2.11 @ 1:51AM
I just got a sudden, unexplainable urge to shop online for some summer products...........NOT!!!
Jessie| 8.2.11 @ 12:24AM
This needs to be repeated that When (Fair) analyzed the cost of illegal immigration and its nationwide deficit.
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George True| 8.2.11 @ 1:53AM
I don't know why, but I think I will check out some bags and hats online...........NOT!!!
irish19| 8.2.11 @ 2:18AM
Funny! Thinking of joining an on-line dating club to meet mature 28 yr. old successful doctors as well?
skip| 8.2.11 @ 3:17PM
Leave my new fiance out of this.
POST American| 8.2.11 @ 12:41AM
-------------------BOTTOM LINE----------------------
The only 'Extremism' at work is sycophantic
extremism.
The Rockefeller/CFR front 'Right' and 'Left'
now forming a 'Super Congress' with the
Executive. ---------A 'Council of 13'.
America's very first SOVIET!
Of course utterly unmentioned, unremarked
by the rectum worshippers who comprise our
dumbed down public.
--------AGAIN, that BLAST from the PAST.
DECLASSIFIED State Dept. Memo 200
1975
Then US Ambassador to RED China, Bush SR
lays out 'the agenda'.
RED China to be 'brought in and brought up'
at US taxpayer expense, to --the---world industrial center and eventually the very
TOP of the NWO.
The US to be brought down to third world
status via debt, de-industrialization, and
a worthless 'service economy' (ie franchise
slums/ Wal-Mart wampum).
ALL contingent on the RED Chinese regime,
the undisputed leaders in world genocide,
embracing, zealously, aggressive EUGENICS
programs along with selective extermination
of unexpediant elements within their population
( ie the unborn).
-------"Did you just hear me?
------------------THIS IS TREASON."
-ALEX JONES
-------------HUAC meets NUREMBERG--------------
------------------the Second Chapter-------------------
CAN'T WAIT!
DaPicayune| 8.2.11 @ 1:41AM
Remind the Marxist Liberal Dems of the truth that the original American Extreme Right Wing was Our Founding Fathers, and then watch their fireworks, fuming, and vexation!
It's our heritage, and they absolutely hate it. That's why they are so deceptive and dishonest. They abhor this truth as a vampire does the morning sun! So, remind them often, it keeps them distracted, and a distracted enemy is easier to defeat!
Solo| 8.2.11 @ 11:03AM
The other thing that we need to remind them is that conservatives are NOT "right-wingers".
The "right-wing/left-wing" dichotomy is purely a European political phenomenon which represents two sides of the same coin: Authoritarian, centralized control of the socio-economic landscape of a nation. Conservatives believe in neither of these systems but rather in individual liberty and free markets.
The "Left" in this country are actually a peculiar combination of the left-wing/right-wing madness which has plagued Europe for the last 100+ years.
We should not allow ourselves to surrender the narrative to the left. Every time someone mentions "right-wing" when describing conservatives, they should be challenged and informed.
Bud| 8.2.11 @ 7:54PM
Excellent. reflects the thoughts of a lot of the folks!
raoul | 4.30.12 @ 1:37PM
There is definitely way too much money going out to localities in the form of federal grants. These grants are commonly associated with much larger bills, such as the "Recovery Act" which is UN Agenda 21 in disguise.