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MSNBC Protects Obama

By Patrick Howley on 7.27.11 @ 6:09AM

A former anchor tells all.

Cenk Uygur’s hiring at MSNBC in October 2010 felt like a populist event. When he took over the network’s six p.m. MSNBC Live time slot three months later — for a six-month trial run — underpaid media aspirants everywhere were paying attention. To the rabid followers of Uygur’s online talk show The Young Turks, he was a true independent voice infiltrating the mainstream, an indie-media icon made good. College kids have been following him since Obama was running third in Iowa, and his “young-demo” tag is clearly what got him into the six o’clock chair. “If you can grow an audience in independent media, then you don’t need the mainstream media,” he says. It’s that kind of self-reliance that gives him leverage.

So his quasi-firing this month from MSNBC (he’s quick to point out that he technically quit) certainly stifled his little Rocky Balboa story. MSNBC bumped him from six o’clock in favor of Al Sharpton and tried to demote him to “Contributor,” so he severed ties with the network (reminding us that the first Rocky also had a compromised ending). “The general perception I got?” Uygur says of his stint at MSNBC: “They get a little concerned over there if you go after President Obama.”

Born in Turkey and raised in New Brunswick, New Jersey, the son of a fiercely-conservative small business owner, Uygur practiced law in D.C. and New York before gravitating toward independent media — where he could hang his own shingle, and make enough money on his own terms to avoid too much corporate compromise. He set up shop at the pre-Stern Sirius Satellite Radio outfit in 2002. With ingenuity and creative stunts (including occasional all-night filibusters), his brash left-wing talk show The Young Turks built up a solid young audience.

Loud and uncompromisingly liberal, Uygur condemns the mainstream media for its “business model based around access to politicians” and rails against Obama either for shifting right or for offering Republican lawmakers “unnecessary preemptive concessions” on important issues. His Sirius show/webcast often pops up, with all its cable-access production values, on Google News when you don’t particularly want it to.

It makes sense, then, that MSNBC would bump him after a trial run. After all, Sharpton is an old cable-news standby, and Uygur was just some youth-baiting stunt hire doing his thesis on “Big Media Gate-Crashing.” So MSNBC sucked up some of his online audience and then sent him away on his Segway. Right?

“Not at all. By the time they gave me six o’clock, I felt like I was coming from in-house” Uygur responds. MSNBC president Phil Griffin hired him directly, and after he polled well as Dylan Ratigan’s guest host Uygur became MSNBC’s number-one fill-in talent. Griffin gave him a six-month trial run at Live in January with acknowledgment that the permanent job was his to lose, and that ratings would be his primary indicator of success. And he delivered the ratings — improving numbers in his time slot across-the-board and beating CNN by as many as 50,000 viewers in the all-important 18-to-49 demo.

So what did him in?

“Phil Griffin called me into a meeting in April,” Uygur says, “and told me, point blank, ‘People in Washington are not happy with your tone.’”

“The message I was getting was very clear,” Uygur says. “They wanted me to ease up on certain Washington politicians.”

Uygur knew to keep his conversation with Griffin private. So his Live staff went on working, blissfully unaware of the new scrutiny. And Uygur still didn’t ease up on Washington, instead criticizing Obama’s war efforts and failed Democratic troop-withdrawal promises. “I just don’t have that sense of allegiance that Democrats have,” Uygur says. “That party mentality. ‘You have to support the party!’ Well, I don’t think that way.” He would see Griffin around the studio, but they would never mention their private talk.

Meanwhile, Sharpton gave Griffin his “Keepers of the Dream” award at a National Action Network event with Harold Ford Jr. and started appearing on the MSNBC premises more and more, often to sub in for busy anchors. One day in late June, Uygur, on a pre-planned vacation and nearing the end of his six-month trial run, found out that Sharpton would be filling in for him that night on Live. Uygur felt safe. Sharpton wasn’t in the fresh-faced, hyper-competitive cable pundit pool that Uygur was vying with, and the always-busy Reverend Al hardly seemed like a serious contender for a nightly anchor gig. So it came as a surprise when Phil Griffin called Uygur into his office a few days later.

“We’re going in a different direction at six o’clock,” Griffin explained. That was all. When Griffin offered him some kind of “weekend contributor” gig instead (remember Albert Brooks in Broadcast News bristling at his role as “the cost-effective reporter”?) Uygur turned it down and went back to The Young Turks full-time. Only later, in the newspaper, did he learn about Sharpton replacing him at six o’clock.

“Al Sharpton came out on Sixty Minutes and announced that he was not going to criticize Obama anymore, on anything,” Uygur says. “And that’s the person that they’re bringing in to replace me? That’s very interesting to me.”

MSNBC representatives did not return calls for comment.

About the Author

Patrick Howley is a staff writer for the The Daily Caller.

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MarkR| 7.27.11 @ 6:22AM

Wow. How surprising. This is news?

W| 7.27.11 @ 4:55PM

Shocking that they would hire Reverend Al, who
instigated the riot in NYC where Jews (interlopers) were killed, and defamed a DA in the fake rape case, and..., shocking

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.27.11 @ 6:22AM

It's amazing these shows can keep enough of an audience to stay on the air.

sinanju| 7.27.11 @ 6:23AM

So MSNBC is even worse than we thought? Uygur was one of the most obnoxious, snotty, juvenile lefty commentators on a network that is uncompromisingly going after the uber-lefty niche market. But liberalism in and of itself is, in fact, NOT what they're about? Rather, it's actually the all-Obama, all the time network?

So Cenk was canned because he occasionally castigated Obama for not being pure enough and he committed lese majeste once too often.

It makes you think...

Did orders come down from on w-a-a-a-y on high (Jefferey Immelt)? Is MSNBC Obama's official praise-singing network as part of Immelt's deal to keep GE as Obama's favorite evil mega-buck corporation?

PCC| 7.27.11 @ 11:17AM

Well, you can call him snotty, obnoxious, whatever, but he was worth watching and I wish him well.

Tomas| 7.27.11 @ 1:31PM

The snotty and obnoxious are so much more fun to watch. They have an opinion and don't give a rats patootie what anyone else thinks. They don't toe the line; they follow the scent of truth. These are the guys who follow the scent of real news. The guys who do their jobs.

PolishKnight| 7.27.11 @ 3:00PM

It sounds like he's starting to grow up...

TrueBlue| 7.27.11 @ 3:40PM

I may not have agreed with 99% of what he said, but at least he didn't try to pander to any of the politicians. He kept to his beliefs and made sure everyone who broke with what they said for political expediency got railed for doing so. I respect him for that.

PolishKnight| 7.28.11 @ 9:52AM

TrueBlue, his beliefs and dogma are contradictory themselves such as bashing racism via blaming everything on white males, claiming to want to go after millionaires while excusing massive subsidies via big government for leftist cronies, etc.

He's just a useful, selfish, fool who didn't know how to play ball.

POST American| 7.27.11 @ 6:43AM

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Stuart Koehl| 7.27.11 @ 6:50AM

Keep smokin' the good stuff, bro.

David W| 7.27.11 @ 11:13AM

I think he may be off his medication...

The Bruce| 7.27.11 @ 11:57PM

He's switched to Puff the Magic Dragon.

The Bruce| 7.27.11 @ 11:57PM

Pass the album, please.

Josh2005| 7.28.11 @ 9:28AM

Alan Watt? Really? That guy is nothing but a conspiracy theory spouting nutjob. Seriously, Post American, every time you post anything on this site, your comments end up being an incomprehensible stream of consciousness that only makes sense to people with in foil on their heads.

alice moore| 7.27.11 @ 6:51AM

Are they now starting the Stalinist Purges?

The Bruce| 7.27.11 @ 11:58PM

I'm not sure, but if it doesn't wind up on PPV, I'll feel plenty cheated.

Clint| 7.27.11 @ 7:03AM

We Are In A Media War.

Clint| 7.27.11 @ 7:06AM

We'll See Which Media Sources Cover This.

"In a series of phone calls, administration officials have told bankers that the administration will not allow a default to happen even if the debt cap isn't raised by the August 2 date..."

irish19| 7.27.11 @ 7:27PM

They don't have to. As you, yourself, pointed out on another thread; and as has been pointed out numerous times, there is enough dough coming in every month to pay interest on the debt, SS, Medicare/-caid, and military salaries. After that, spending will need to be prioritized. The Rs need to stick to their guns and pass a bill, even with the guarantee that zero will veto it. Then they need to convince enough Ds in the Senate-like those whose seats are up next year-to also vote for it and then send it to zero.

Porcus Quondam| 7.27.11 @ 7:09AM

Racemonger Sharpton will attract dozens of viewers.

Conservative View| 7.27.11 @ 9:59AM

Porcus, let's hope he does. Sharpton given a platform to speak from every night is, sooner or later, going to give into the false self image of "the all powerful man." As soon as he does, he will begin to make more and more radical statements. He is a man who just can't keep his mouth shut. Finally he will make a statement so completely raceist that even the liberal press won't be able to accept it. Too late. They hired him. They know what he is. And the liberal MSM will be branded once again.

So let us hope all kinds of people are listening, let his numbers rise, let him preach to the heavens. Let him finally fall on his own toungue, er sword. I'm loveing it.

TrueBlue| 7.27.11 @ 3:41PM

And the best part, it'll be all over the world for everyone to see and hear with no way to say his comments were editted to support an opinion.

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 12:01AM

Maybe he can have Jesse Jackson on as an "Analyst" to discuss "Hymie-town."

Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 7.27.11 @ 7:12AM

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MSLSD is out of their "Collective" minds, hiring the race baiter, agitator, Al Sharpton. I watched his show the other night, and I didn't make it two minutes. The guy (unlike Obama) can't read a Teleprompter to save his life, and he's boring on TV, just boring. Sharpton's only good at inciting riots, rabble-rousing, defaming, and talking thugs into burning down Jewish owned businesses (and I'm sure many other crimes too, but what do you expect from this thug?). But he can't read, which is kind of important on TV!! He'll be the stake in the heart to MSLSD for sure (if they had one)!!

Louis Jenkins| 7.27.11 @ 10:11AM

So, does Al Sharpton speak into the microphone with a bullhorn? That's how I've seen him.

Teaghan| 7.27.11 @ 8:00AM

LL&L, don't forget the Tawana Brawley race show.
This article is not news . We all know those at emelts station call the White House daily to get their talking points and what to tell the masses. They wouldn't know news if it hit them in their collective faces. And Andrea Mitchell has a face that would knock a dog off a meat wagon.

MacDaddy| 7.27.11 @ 8:26AM

Whaddya talking about? Andrea Mitchell is a smoking hottie....until she opens her yap, that is....

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 12:03AM

"And Andrea Mitchell has a face that would knock a dog off a meat wagon."

That phrase is absolutely priceless.

TennesseeVolunteer| 7.27.11 @ 8:29AM

Hey Cenk!
How does it feel "being thrown under the bus" by Obama?

tsd| 7.27.11 @ 8:54AM

Who the hell watch's MSNBC??? Who cares!

Southern_Comment| 7.27.11 @ 8:56AM

Progressive liberalism is nothing more than an illegal cult.

Margie| 7.27.11 @ 1:17PM

I think you might be right as to the illegal part. After all, it IS the Left that is permitted to break the laws on the books and get away with it.
Take for example the resume enhancements aspect of the perverts that get to stay in office.
Of course, I could go on.

Redstateboy| 7.27.11 @ 8:58AM

what's MSNBC viewership on any given evening between 7PM-9PM? 142?

Tom in Michigan| 7.27.11 @ 9:16AM

"Some people in Washington don't like your tone!?!"

How much more proof do you need MSNBC (All of NBC, for that matter) is merely the propaganda mouthpiece of the Democrat Party? Their evening line up is unwatchable - even with Olbermann gone.

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 12:06AM

I record them and force myself to watch them, as I don't like "hearing" what they said through third parties.

Knowing thy enemy is key (same reason I ghost lefty websites).

Anthony| 7.27.11 @ 9:23AM

I'm waiting for Obozo's favorite corporate whore, Jeff Immelt, to transfer all of MSNBC over to China as well as most of his other divisions at G.E.
Yes, I think a market exists in China for Sharpton, Matthews and the rest of the corrupt lefty loonies who cover for Obozo like cheap suits.
Imagine replacing this kid with Sharpton, the biggest fraud and whore in all of leftyville. And they wonder why their audience is the size of Weiner's weiner.
The Chinese are probably the only folks who understand what the hell Matthews says, anyway. As for Sharpton, the Chinese love stuffed pork, so he'll fit in just right.

simon templar| 7.27.11 @ 9:29AM

This is not news and not a surprise. The Left has always purged its own and stifled dissent within its own ranks. You have about 100 years of history examples proving this as a fact. The soviets would destroy the previous dicatators reputation when the new boss strong man took over. Purges were commonplace and Marx wrote extensively about it as a necessary cleaning and pruning. Tolerance is not a virtue, loyalty and towing the line are virtues, and criticism of current leadership is tantamount to treason and will be dealt with quickly. Do not be fooled by the Turk or shed any tears. This is typical. There is always the FAR Left and the Left and they are never satisfied with the results of the revolution or their efforts. Vermont Bernie does not think the communist-in-chief is radical enough but thinks he is a sellout. Typical.

CopyKatnj| 7.27.11 @ 9:36AM

"To keep you is no benefit; to destroy you is no loss." -- the Khmer Rouge

simon templar| 7.27.11 @ 9:38AM

The article as usual completely misses the REAL story here. The real story here is how did our American media become so blatantly anti-American, anti-capitalist, and Left wing? How is it getting away with blatant sychophant worship of the "leader" and clearly extreme, un-american views and failure to practice true journalism? By focusing on the young turk and their infighting and purging, you give credibilty to the idea that tis whole thing is somehow legitimate and "normal." It is sick and a blatant sign of the lack of true journalism and the length to which socialist anti-american forces have taken over the media.

Anthony| 7.27.11 @ 11:01AM

You are correct Simon, the entire LSM are corrupt to the core and cowtow to their leftist masters in the government.
How it got to this point, I think, has been explained. Sixty years of the relentless march of radical leftism has achieved its goal.
Like an invading army of ants, they now contaminate all the vital entities of our culture and society.
What I find even more appalling then their radical leftism is their total and complete acquiesce to the leftist powers in Washington, that can tell the LSM "people in Washington are not happy with your tone". A total corrupt vertical monopoly.
This kid Uygur has it right, the leftist Washington pols control media content through access. Play the game and you get Obozo to boost your ratings. Refuse to play, and you pay. Remeber all the attacks on FOX by Obozo, his henchmen and the lefty media. Remember O'Reilly's disgusting fawning to get Obozo on his show.
What we've got here.... is total corruption of our society by the left. The good news is most of America is no longer fooled. The backlash is coming!!!

Kurt in S.L.C.| 7.27.11 @ 9:39AM

Are you saying Jeffy Immelt and NBC have they noses up the Zero's butt?What a shock! Who knew?

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 12:19AM

I think the more appropriate question here isn't "who knew, " but "who blew?"

Louis Jenkins| 7.27.11 @ 10:14AM

Tell us something new Mr. Howley. Whether the news politicos fall on their sword, or they have some help, it will always be the same. Toe the line you nay-sayer, or else!

Mimi| 7.27.11 @ 10:15AM

MSNBC....Who cares!...They sure don't deserve any attention !
The "O" is sinking in every respect. Today Ferrara brings up the "I" word at the end of a terrific article. John Hayward, writing at Human Events yesterday did an hilarious piece on the "O" s speech naming the "NEW" enemies list...Just about every-body made it !!!.....POLLS are sinking...but worse everyone is laughing at him. MSNBC....TOTALLY irrevelent!

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 12:25AM

I disagree that MSNBC doesn't deserve any attention. I say let them get all the attention they can.

The more those lefties open their collective mouths on that network, the more the American people get an unfettered whiff of the stink that IS the Left.

There's a reason the country's becoming more conservative/libertarian, and we have the Left and MSNBC to thank for it.

cowgirl| 7.27.11 @ 10:21AM

Sarah Palin - calls it right again - The Lame Stream Media. No wonder they violently hate her.

Paul Hilsenrath| 7.27.11 @ 10:47AM

News Flash: MSNBC ( and the rest of the lame-stream media) is in the Tank for Obama.

So, what else is new?

james wilson| 7.27.11 @ 11:02AM

If Uygur were to actually learn something from his experience it would be to ask what it was about himself that made it a natural to be working in the business end of an outhouse. I don't see any sign of that.

Sheila| 7.27.11 @ 11:41AM

We're told Uygur's immigrant father is "fiercely conservative," yet the son joins MSNBC and criticizes Obama from the left. Perhaps Uygur would care to return to his native Turkey under the resurgent Islamic government there, and attempt to criticize it - from either side.

rendite| 7.27.11 @ 2:39PM

Thank you, Sheila. Finally a cogent comment. This "Turk" ought to be thanking his lucky stars for his good fortune at being on America's (semi) capitalist shores where (at times) freedom of speech is mostly still tolerated.

His schtick would last about 35 seconds on any of Istanbul's three TV networks that focus on "news." (state-run approved "news," that is)

No one should have any tears for Cenk. He's probably already done likewise to some low end employee who has worked for him. And he will throw other "off the reservation thinkers" under future buses as well.

Doctor Right| 7.27.11 @ 12:02PM

MSNBC?

No wonder most Americans never heard of him...myself, included.

And it appears that the Left-wing media has NO problems whatsoever being bullied by politicians into changing their stories.

Fascinating...

Oldefarte| 7.27.11 @ 12:21PM

How refreshing it is to not have to read the asinine harping about RINOS doing this that or whatever from the tea party nutwing element here. IT'S THE DEMOCRATS [INCLUDING MSNBC WACKOS], STUPID!!!!!!

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 12:50AM

Tea Party Nutwing element? Coming from a soft, liberal, non-conservative, so-called Republican, I'll take that as a compliment.

What exactly is so nutty about:

Limited Federal Power bound by the Constitution?

Respect for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

A balanced budget?

Individual liberty and personal freedom and responsibility?

Private property rights?

If you're for these things, welcome to the "nut house." If you're against these things, then I suggest you head down to your local DMV and register yourself as a Democrat, as there's nothing conservative about you. Pull your mask off and speak like the RINO, big-government statist that you are. You know what's best for the rest of us, right, central planner?

Sorry, Oldefarte, but you're about as conservative as neo-cons like Nixon, Bush, W, and McCain. In other words, not.

Margie| 7.28.11 @ 12:04PM

"Neo-cons".
Ah, another holier-than-thou loser.

megapotamus| 7.27.11 @ 1:09PM

Farte, YOU are the Olde asinine harpy. And also stupid. There, see how easy that is you presumptuous, empty fool?
Anyhow, I give Sharpton points for honesty. Haven't half the "anchors" taken a vow of Obama-friendly silence? Yes, but they would never admit it. I think it was Certified Genius Contessa Brewer who was flat out called for carrying Obama's water (which is warm and salty) on a live broadcast. I can't say I've ever heard Uygar, heard of, yes; heard, no. But his pedigree is sufficient; he is outraged by Obama the Conservative in cheap clothing. The tragedy is that Barack has not disbanded Congress and taken the helm as Our Dear Leader. Libya rankles but not as much as just the continuation in Iraq and A-stan. The moral of the story is that outright socialism, even in diverse disguises, is only about a 15% constituency. Barack may have been one of these but even he has learned that the beloved claptrap of his youth, which extends to yesterday, cannot work and threatens to take his precious self down the drain with it. Under the bus, Lefties, and shut up about it. I see no downside to this story.

Margie| 7.27.11 @ 1:25PM

If you think Oldefarte is an assinine harpy then you're the fool.

There, see how easy that was?

Having said that, I am reminded of a man tat used to come to our church who had spent 14 years being tortured for his faith under the Communists regime.

He has written many beautiful books about Communism, and how it works. His most famous is "Tortured for Christ".
Another is "Marx and Satan."

He wrote about how over his years in prison, he used to see many of the Communist comrades themselves thrown into prison with him. Often times the Communist guards themselves. He led many of these to Christ.

Like the Mafia, the Communists thugs eat their own.
No honor among thieves.
Come to think of it, it is sounding familiar to the present day, and in these very pages.

Margie| 7.27.11 @ 1:28PM

Let me amend an above sentence:
I meant to say he has written many beautiful books.. about how his faith upheld him, his testimonials. But they also explained in detail how the Communists operated.

Oldefarte| 7.27.11 @ 2:40PM

Margie, you can't rationally argue with these megapotamuses since they have no intelligence. I simply advise that the best course of action is similar to that when walking in a cow pasture and come upon a pile of cow manure......you simply hold your nose and walk around it as best you can!!!!!!!!

Margie| 7.27.11 @ 4:11PM

But it's a cancer that grows, and if you don't dig it out and dispose of it~ it kills you.

But still, point taken in spirit.

Oldefarte| 7.27.11 @ 2:37PM

Give Sharpton points for honesty....you GD imbecile, that idiot began lying when his head popped out of the your sister's womb? Contessa Brewer, who in hades is she [some reporter for a MSM propaganda machine]? Try Fox, TAS, Newsmax, etc for your information DA! 'Obama the conservative', what a insane joke[he's about as conservative as I am the King of England]! Obama 'learned' his socialism dogma from Harvard, Princton, Ayers and Wright...end of story! Oh before you critisize others, you had better flush that cow manure out from between your ears!!!!!!!!!!

Drunken Sailor| 7.27.11 @ 5:23PM

"I give Al Sharpton points for honesty"

Really? Tell that to Fred Harari, owner of Freddies Fashion Mart

Skippy| 7.27.11 @ 1:51PM

Uyger?
Uighers?
Is this Uigher Wednesday?

Mel Torme| 7.28.11 @ 5:42PM

Actually, Skippy, it is Friday for the Uigars, and it's Thursday for us, unless Bill Gates has been dickin around with the Windows clock again.

Drunken Sailor| 7.27.11 @ 2:28PM

Isn't it interesting to see a article showing a Liberal also claims MSNBC is protecting Obama but none of our Liberal trolls comment. Guess it's to hard for them to argue with another Liberal.

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 1:13AM

It's hard for them to make an argument, period, as the only talking points they've been able to come up with is to drop the race card against conservatives, or blame Bush for the Great Fire of London in 1666.

If Cent were a conservative, it would be a no-brainer for these folks -- they'd just brand him as a racist.

Since he's a liberal, they've been stupefied into a position of silence, as they dare not criticize one of theirs (because they quietly agree with him).

carol| 7.27.11 @ 2:47PM

welcome to Pravda

Flee| 7.27.11 @ 4:04PM

Is Sharpton really a reverend? If so shouldn't MSNBC also include a diverse religious perspective with their hosts? I would think a network would be criticized for giving a host slot to a Catholic priest or a rabbi or an imam. Why is Rev Al given a pass? Is his reverendship derived from the back page of a magazine? I am curious if someone can enlighten me.

Margie| 7.27.11 @ 4:13PM

Like Curtis Sliwa always used to say re: Sharpie Sharpton~ he's "the Rev. 911 of the church of What's Happening Now!"

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 1:19AM

From a liberal perspective, since GE's CEO is a member of Obama's administration, and since his parent company owned MSNBC, wouldn't the employment of a reverend as one of its prime time hosts violate their convoluted idea of a "separation of church and state?"

Nick| 7.27.11 @ 7:49PM

This moron, Uygur, couldn't even read the teleprompter properly!

So, no matter how well he played the role of Useful Idiot, people who know T.V. could see he wasn't going to get any better.

(And if anyone is wondering how I could possibly know so much about Uygur's show, it is because a soldier always wants to know as much as he can about his enemy. I don't watch PMSNBC shows all the way through,. Who could? I just do the equivalent of aerial reconnaissance. Plus, Matth-spews makes my blood pressure rise!)

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 1:31AM

Nick, I watch all of their shows in their entirety. I can handle the hard stuff because I made preparations by forcing myself to watch "The Sound of Music" forty times. It's a unique hell you can't imagine, but it gave me the constitutional fortitude to stomach long hours of MSNBC's version of Pravda.

You can do it too, if you have the stomach. Just remember, if you're engaging in this self-torture and you see a "light" appear in the room, look away. The light is bad, very bad. It's evil in disguise.

"Look away from the light, Carol Anne!!!!!"

Nick| 7.28.11 @ 7:05PM

The Bruce,

You are a better man than I.

I've tried to look at viewing PMSNBC as a form of self-flagellation and repentance, but, the temptation to uncontrolled anger and to curse violently proved to be to strong. I decided it was not worth the risk of eternal damnation!

I will have to live with just clicking on their shows, here and there, and when the urge to swear comes (as it always does) I change the channel, posthaste!

POST American| 7.27.11 @ 11:35PM

------------------BOTTOM LINE-------------------

Get beyond the chicken feed of Globalist
tourist class, T n' A media.

STOP worshippng your rectums.

START following ALAN WATT's coverage.

ESSENTIAL info daily.

REALLY

TRULY

The Bruce| 7.28.11 @ 1:50AM

PA, Reynolds Wrap is reporting a missing tin-foil hat. Please return it, either directly through the USPS or through a sympathetic Alex Jones third-party mediator. Don't forget to redeem your coupon for a solar generator.

Herb| 7.28.11 @ 7:32AM

For what it's worth, I am fascinated by Cenk Uygur's name. "Cenk" I believe means `war' or `warlike'. His surname is the name of the Turkic Muslim minority which inhabits far west China.

I was deployed to Uzbekistan 2003-04. That far from makes me an expert on Central Asian peoples, but I did learn that Uzbeks and Uygurs (sometimes spelled Uighur) regard themselves as the same people and that both have a strong kinship with the Turks of modern Turkiye. I heard many accounts of intermarriage among the three groups. One Uzbek even asserted that the Turkic hordes who headed west conquered Constantinople, and that the Turkic nomads who crossed the Bering landbridge conquered the New World until Europeans came along later. "It may have been an Uzbek who killed Custer!" he joked.

That's no more fantastic than anything Cenk Uygur has ever said on any subject.

POST American| 8.1.11 @ 1:54AM

----------------BOTTOM LINE------------------

----YES!

And everyone from NBC ---to FOX, and even
AS ---protect the deady Rockefeller 'shadow
government' (--which funds them) --and deflects
and buries ALLLLL consciusness of the
Globalist-RED China sellout and TREASON op.

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