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The Current Crisis
The Presidential Race Made Easy
At any other time, Obama would be challenged from within his party.
WASHINGTON — In the weeks ahead I shall be in Europe to speak on American politics. What will I say to old Europe? Well, I shall give them my broad view of American politics and end with the present election cycle in which I believe Barack Obama will be retired to private life, though he cannot really conceive of private life. He will continue his public life as he has for all his adult life. That is how Democrats live. He will be a community organizer to the world, as Bill Clinton has become in the words of MSNBC, “President of the World: The Bill Clinton Phenomenon.”
Both sound ridiculous, but do any Democrats ever retire to private life today? They are always taking on noble causes, which is to say illusory causes. Harry Truman retired to private life and Lyndon Johnson, but not Bill Clinton or Al Gore or for that matter Jimmy Carter. The other day Jimmy wrote an op-ed piece in the New York Times saying we had lost the drug war and he was now smoking while listening to the Grateful Dead unto death. Perhaps he is not listening to the Grateful Dead and possibly he is not smoking marijuana, but I lost interest at about the third sentence. He might well have said almost anything. He has been latching onto fads for thirty years, anything that will keep him in the ink. The reflective life is not for him. It might cause him to become aware of what a miserable president he was.
His miserable presidency is key to any summation I make of current American politics. The standards of leadership have declined abysmally, especially in the Democratic Party. In its upper tiers there is not a person who could match Truman, Adlai Stevenson, John Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey, to say nothing of Roosevelt II. The 1960s generation — the Clintons, Gore, John Kerry, et al. — were a bust. They quite possibly set the stage for an even more inferior generation led by Obama. Think of it! From Carter to Obama the Democrats have led a motley string of trivial figures onto the national stage.
The Republicans have done markedly better. Richard Nixon, though flawed, led the opening to China, a tremendous achievement worth revisiting for those who have forgotten, and they can do it by reading Henry Kissinger’s new book, On China. What is more, Nixon and Kissinger managed affairs with the prickly Soviet Union remarkably well, until along came Ronald Reagan to finish the job without firing a shot. Reagan was a giant (known to Liberals as a bumbling clown), and the two Bushes that followed him did not do badly either. They were in the tradition of Truman and Dwight Eisenhower, prudent stewards of American interests.
That brings us up to this election cycle. At any other time, Obama would be challenged from within his party. Teddy Kennedy challenged Carter, and I anticipated Hillary Clinton doing so this time, but now she cannot. Obama will run and lose to the Republican nominee, but who will the Republican be?
Before the summer is out, Mitt Romney will pull ahead of Obama by 10 points. But that will not give him the Republican nomination. He will have to fight for it. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann will make a terrific race of it, pulling most of the Tea Party vote. If the Tea Partyers are as energetic as they were in 2010, she has a very good chance. Then there is Tim Pawlenty. His policies are sound and even exciting in this time of near bankruptcy, but he has no natural constituency. People forget that Ronald Reagan did not search out his constituency. It had been building for years. He was strong in 1976 and overwhelming in 1980 based on his support from the Tea Party movement of his day, the conservative movement. Pawlenty, Rick Santorum, and Ron Paul are all looking for a movement, and I do not think they will find one.
Then there is Governor Rick Perry. By the end of July we shall know if he is running. I think he will. Can he line himself up with the core of the Republican Party, which is still the conservative movement? It is made up of the religious right, the limited government types, the strong foreign policy advocates, and, for want of a better term, the Reagan Democrats. Well, he was a Democrat as was Reagan. He has governed a state and it possesses the most vibrant economy in the union. It also has enormous talent. It is the new California. This will be an exciting nominating process and a very dirty presidential race. A community organizer with union support vs. a statesman (or stateswoman), but we all know who is going to win.
About the Author
R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator. He is the author of The Death of Liberalism, published by Thomas Nelson Inc. His previous books include the New York Times bestseller Boy Clinton: the Political Biography; The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton; The Liberal Crack-Up; The Conservative Crack-Up; Public Nuisances; The Future that Doesn’t Work: Social Democracy’s Failure in Britain; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; The Clinton Crack-Up; and After the Hangover: The Conservatives’ Road to Recovery.
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The Bishop| 6.23.11 @ 6:16AM
Oh for the day when Obama is nothing more than an asterisk to a presidential trivia question!
lydia | 6.23.11 @ 10:18AM
The Republican coalition, and not the Democratic coalition, is the more volatile. The Republican coalition is the more difficult one to piece together.
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Jim Bromley| 6.24.11 @ 9:58AM
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RichTex| 6.24.11 @ 10:40AM
Eliot Spitzer has already called.
Alan Brooks| 6.23.11 @ 8:36PM
"in which I believe Barack Obama will be retired to private life"
It does appear to be so, as the economy wont improve soon. So the question is, can the GOP do better? no. When you win in November of 2012 you will make the same mistakes over and over-- as you lost your 'vision thing' on Jan. 20th, 1989.
Here is something which can be predicted with absolute certainty: you will say read our lips no new taxes but then when the next emergency arises you will be sure to do just that, to raise taxes. Probably a flat tax will be voted into law if you win. And it appears increasingly likely you will win.
However, Pax Americana is dying, and without that we are back to the pre-1945 way of life.
Jim Bromley| 6.24.11 @ 9:58AM
Herman Cain is a problem solver. Ever wonder why the main stream media is all but ignoring him? Could it be they know he is the best candidate to beat Obama? If you haven't heard this mans solutions to many of todays problems, you are part of the problem. Herman Cain led last weeks Gallup Poll, But the media won't tell you this. Do your own homework and check Herman Cain out. You will be glad you did.
old white guy| 6.24.11 @ 2:36PM
my goodness, who is going to go against the half black half white saviour of the planet? the people are stupid. an uneducated electorate lacks the critical analysis skills to understand what is happening to the u.s.
Red Route 1| 6.24.11 @ 4:49PM
Use this link to see something absolutely chilling. Not saying it's true, just wondering if anyone else has heard of this concerning BHO?
Warning: NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.
http://fellowshipofminds.wordp.....speaks-up/
Gary| 6.23.11 @ 6:31AM
Didn’t Nixon give us the EPA and didn’t Bush give us the Patriot Act with its TSA? Aren’t these two police agencies dominant among those crippling American society and killing the American Dream? Do I trust Republicans? I do not. They are the great betrayers. The only chance for revival of a freedom in America is an outsider, like Bachmann for all the obvious reasons.
The reason that clown, Trump, caused such a stir is that he channeled decades of pent-up anger among limited government types, like the TAS audience. He did this by being a straight talker. He didn’t mince words, nor was he afraid of the leftist press. A serious candidate must do the same. Trump’s great contribution, in my humble opinion, was to provide a test of how to connect with all that anger out there. You don’t do it by taking a knife to a gun fight.
Perry sounds pretty good, but is he a closet RINO?
Larry| 6.23.11 @ 7:59AM
I believe that Perry also favors or at least favored in-state college tuition for illegal alien invader scum.
Gary| 6.23.11 @ 8:37AM
Larry,
I believe Perry is soft on the illegals because he'll be running a national campaign soon and didn't want that thown back in his face. If was going to remain governor, being tough on illegals would be much more acceptable.
Texas did, however, pass a law requiring a photo ID to vote. I'd like to see California try that.
Nunya| 6.23.11 @ 2:51PM
Utah has it, I think it should be required everywhere. But then again I believe in the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Those two things have long been forgotten in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.
Jack fromWi. | 6.23.11 @ 2:50PM
The only guy taking straight right now is Ron Paul. I do have hopes for Michelle Bachman, but fear she isn't up to it intellectually. If it's Romney, Huntsman, or one of the other forget it. He may win but not much will change. The countryclub and the neocons have run the party into the ditch for decades. Another one of them will be it's death nell.
Kishego| 6.23.11 @ 4:16PM
Michelle Bachman not up to it intellectually ?
What a bunch of crap. She is smart, quick on her feet and has an awsome resume. IF she becomes the Republican nominee, I would vote for her enthusiastically. After all, if the choice is her or obumbler, it's a no brainer.
CalvinCool| 6.23.11 @ 9:31PM
Michele Bachmann is a fraud. She pretends to act like an anti-government, anti-spending crusader, but she's just another lying corrupt career politician. Despite speaking against it, she has brought more earmarks to her district over any other rep in Minn AND she took $250,000 worth of farm subsidies. Also, she was just recently caught illegally using tax payer money to fund a event to promote herself. Do you really think she isn't going to be corrupted with special interest once in office? WAKE UP PEOPLE!
Handy| 6.25.11 @ 4:44PM
Enthusiasm in voting is all well and good. The trick is to vote for her as many times as you can. Until you make that commitment, no one will take you seriously. LOL.
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:00PM
Bachmann is a tax attorney with specialized credentials. Unlike Paul, she is also trusted with Confidential data about her nation's security. Your endorsement, Jack, is another reason to work all out to defeat Paul.
Mutch Moore| 6.24.11 @ 1:58AM
The tenets of Occam's Razor would seem to educe a simpler choice of which Bachman is not one.
Margie| 6.23.11 @ 7:24PM
Intellectual vermin shall not be catered to. That means you, Jack.
Michele has more smarts in her earlobe than you do in your entire skull.
Bye now.
Jewish Guy| 6.23.11 @ 7:58PM
Is that you, again, Jack, the rabid anti-semite who, by the way, can't write or spell too good? The giveaway this time is your touting the fellow-traveling anti-semite scum Ron Paul. What happened to you, Jack? Some Jewish woman spurned you when she got too close to your armpit? There's more going on in the world than your difficulty with Jews who are so far superior to you. Get a life, and get over it.
Clint| 6.23.11 @ 9:41PM
You're A Slandering Liar.
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan
"Tea partiers in two camps: Sarah Palin vs. Ron Paul
" POLITICO/TargetPoint poll:
Palin, who topped the list with 15 percent, speaks for the 43 percent of those polled expressing the distinctly conservative view that government does too much, while also saying that it needs to promote traditional values.
Paul’s thinking is reflected by an almost identical 42 percent who said government does too much but should not try to promote any particular set of values — the hallmarks of libertarians. He came in second to Palin with 12 percent.
When asked to choose from a list of candidates for president in 2012, Palin and Paul also finished one-two — with Palin at 15 percent and Paul at 14 percent. "
Jack fromWi. | 6.24.11 @ 10:07PM
Anti-semite to you is anyone who tells the truth about your homeland. Why don't you move there if you love it so much. I care about this country and it's people, not some far away place that has cost us many hundreds of billions. The main thing you have against Ron Paul is that he would cut all foreign aid to everyone including Israel. All that money given to Israel is a totally unconstitutional subsidy of your Jewish religion. Lets give it the Pope. At least he would give it to the poor and not spend it on war and destruction.
Estragon| 6.24.11 @ 7:38AM
Nixon's EPA was a preemptive strike. Had he not created it, the Democratic Congress would have created it as a cabinet-level post.
ken brolin | 6.24.11 @ 9:20AM
Michelle Bachman is an outstanding individual. However, for a true outsider not beholding to any special interest groups, with a proven track record of common sense problem solving, please a good long look at Herman Cain.
Brian Mc| 6.23.11 @ 6:49AM
I'd like to know more about Herman Cain. Outside of saving Godfather's, there must be more to this man than his remark concerning his grandchildren.
Prester John| 6.23.11 @ 7:48AM
Herman Cain: smart, successful in business, inspiring. He wants to: replace the current tax system with the Fair Tax, secure the borders, exploit domestic energy sources, and maintain a strong national defense.
He understands what it takes to create jobs.
He speaks his mind and doesn't worry about being PC.
And he's not a career politician.
SPgordon | 6.23.11 @ 10:22AM
I would like to know why Herman Cain was left entirely out of this detailed commentary.
Prester John| 6.23.11 @ 11:44AM
Indeed.
A variety of polls from the last week or so show him consistently ahead of Pawlenty, Huntsman, Santorum and Newt, being tied for 2d with Romney behind Bachman or being 2d behind Romney, to being at least in the top 5, and yet he is consistently dismissed in a one liner or ignored completely.
Aiken Bob| 6.23.11 @ 6:00PM
I would too. I have heard Herman talk and it a blessing to hear straight talk, sound mind, and a sense of humor. I think it would be great if we had a non- career politician for a change.
CalvinCool| 6.23.11 @ 9:28PM
Herman Cain is left entirely out of the debate because he is not in bed with the Republican or Democrat establishment elite. He is a total outsider and the best choice to end politics as usual and bust up the culture of spending and corruption in DC. Republican, and right wing media elite, would much rather have an insider career politician candidate that is easily controllable and will continue to grow govt after fixing the economy.
TMBruner| 6.27.11 @ 2:47PM
The longer it is before the actual opponent is known, the less prepared the enemy will be when the attack begins.
Appleby| 6.23.11 @ 7:14AM
Anybody but Obama...or Mitt Romney.
Stephanie| 6.23.11 @ 7:26AM
Or RINO Huntsman. move along Mitt and John.
Larry| 6.23.11 @ 8:00AM
Does anyone really think that Huntsman will get more than 5% of the vote? He's John McCain II only worse.
Drunken Sailor| 6.23.11 @ 2:30PM
More ike .5%
Drunken Sailor| 6.23.11 @ 2:31PM
Darn, clumsy fingrs. More like .5%
Al Adab| 6.23.11 @ 2:39PM
How many fingers of Jack?
Nunya| 6.23.11 @ 2:52PM
Three, please. ;-)
Al Adab| 6.23.11 @ 3:14PM
Ahhh!
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:01PM
Beautiful, dude. Beautiful.
Nancy in NC| 6.23.11 @ 9:54AM
Or Rick Perry.
Illegal immigration is such a serious problem in this country that no one seems to want to tackle.
Illegals bring all kinds of wonderful things to this country besides cheap labor. How about leprosy? Dengue? Tuberculosis anyone?
The Hispanic culture takes a different spin on drunk driving. They're the masters of hit and run accidents.
Balkinzation anyone? Hispanics do not assimilate.
Revolutionaries? Many are convinced we stole their country and they want it back. Heck, it was even taught in the Arizona school system.
We are destroying our country from within by not looking into these problems. I know...it's not PC.
Grzmlyk| 6.23.11 @ 1:07PM
Hi Nancy:
Excellent points all, but of course illegal immigration is only a serious problem to people who aren't Democrats.
If Democrats thought Hispanics would end up voting Republican, this problem would never have sprung from Teddy Kennedy's seedy loins.
Democrats in power do not give a damn about ruining this country, whether it's the toll taken by the current invasion, destroying the culture, enslaving the masses or looting the treasury.
All they care about is naked POWER and feathering their nests. The Democrat party is the party of illegal confiscation of wealth at gunpoint.
But because of their cheap, phony platitudes, they suck in masses of credulous fools, vengeance-seeking punks and opportunistic pawns.
What is the victory of a metastasized cancer? It kills off the host organism and then dies itself.
It's the only way we will be rid of these people.
oldfart| 6.23.11 @ 7:23AM
Romney is another McCain - more of the same in-bred leadership that has stiffled creative thinking and leadership in modern American politics.
Sandy| 6.23.11 @ 7:30AM
I do believe that Perry will get in the race, and he will move quickly into the top spot. He will fill the space of that generic republican that is currently beating Obama. By the time of the primaries, he will be unstoppable, as many will see he can beat Obama handily.
BackToBasics| 6.23.11 @ 4:49PM
Since he's soft on illegal immigration, I hope you are wrong. He will not get my primary vote.
Intelligent Design| 6.23.11 @ 7:34AM
Rick Perry is the best choice. He has 10 very successful years as Governor of Texas, prior state government experience, and experience as an Air Force pilot. He acts on principles instead of on the latest political winds (polls), his presentation skills are excellent, he speaks with confidence and authority, and he is definitely a conservative. I recommend his book titled FED UP! - Our Fight to Save America from Washington. He demonstrates how more government has equaled less freedom, and he has concrete ideas on how to cut the federal government down to its intended size. There is also a web site for the book: www.fedupthebook.com
Disclaimer: no, I don't work for or even know Governor Perry. But I am quite sure he's the guy who can slay the dragon.
Romney, on the other hand, would make a good running mate for Obama.
Nancy in NC| 6.23.11 @ 9:55AM
NO, no, no. Perry wants us to marry up with Mexico and Canada and become one big country. Don't fall into this trap.
loulou| 6.23.11 @ 10:58AM
Yes, Perry is a NAU supporter as well as the Trans Texas Corridor. Watch out!
BackToBasics| 6.23.11 @ 4:54PM
Agreed, conservatives we need to coalesce around ONE VERY CONSERVATIVE candidate very early in the primaries, maybe Bachman.
If conservatives split their vote too many ways in the early primaries, it will allow a moderate or RINO to get the nomination; just like 2008.
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:03PM
Living in Minnesota, I can tell you Michelle is the real deal. Drive a car with a Bachmann decal in the Twins and watch the Liberals spin out in the snow!
RCV| 6.24.11 @ 6:52PM
Occam - Fascinating new poll reported yesterday on RealClearPolitics: Obama beats Bachman by 14 points .... in Minnesota, where they know her best.
The Bishop| 6.23.11 @ 7:50AM
Has anyone considered: What will Joe Biden do in retirement? That question keeps me up at night (like an enlarged prostate).
Melvin| 6.23.11 @ 8:01AM
Rumor has it, that Joe Biden is in secret negotiations with Johnny Knoxville, to become part of the cast on the Jackass series.
Larry| 6.23.11 @ 8:02AM
There's an opening for the Ti-D-Bowl man. Biden might do very well at that job. Might.
Michael Tomlinson| 6.23.11 @ 8:19AM
He will become a spokesman on late night infomercials about the joys of hair plugs and gaff hooks as well as a high paid lobbyist for the Taliban government of Afghanistan.
Cpm| 6.23.11 @ 7:16PM
Hair Club for Mehmet?
Curly| 6.23.11 @ 7:26PM
Nyuk, Nyuk.
Nunya| 6.23.11 @ 2:56PM
I think he should get his own late night talk show, a la Letterman. Maybe he'll only be a sidekick, though.
Aiken Bob| 6.23.11 @ 6:06PM
Obama, Clinton, and Carter were/are very liberal and have a base that will always pay them homage. Can anyone remember Carter's VP -- Al Gore did the AWG and made millions - my guess is that Biden will fade away and no one will care.
Melvin| 6.23.11 @ 7:58AM
Come on guys, Harry Reid endorsed Huntsman, that means a little something doesn't it?
Matthew Quigley| 6.23.11 @ 9:23AM
Yeah, it means that Huntsman is a Democrap and that anyone who votes for him is an idiot.
Nunya| 6.23.11 @ 2:57PM
Agreed. Huntsman was the governor here, and he is not a fiscal conservative. I wouldn't vote for him if he was the only one running.
Michael Tomlinson| 6.23.11 @ 8:21AM
Mr. Tyrrell great article thank you. This is more like the TAS I learned to love in college.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.23.11 @ 8:25AM
Emmett,
from your lips to God's ears.
I really do believe a majority of Americans will be frightened enough to get off their duffs and vote Obama out.
People are going to continue to bitch about Perry's "mistakes", but who's perfect?
By the way, I just finished a book by Robert Wickes
"The Hornbrook Prophecy" at the kindle store at amazon.com
You really should read it before you head for Europe.
Al Adab| 6.23.11 @ 11:08AM
Ken,
Here's hoping you are right. This IS the election of a generation. Should these radical, incompetent ideologues be allowed to continue to set policy and direct our nation the future is indeed dark. As noted, except for the facts of Dem party thinking Al Naqis would be challenged within his party. That he will not be simply reinforces the sorry state to which that once proud party has descended.
Bob Grant| 6.23.11 @ 11:11AM
Hmm. I went to Amazon.com and searched for The Hornbrook Prophecy but got a message stating "You've been redirected to texassaidno.com"
Pretty Clever Mr. Tex. Pretty clever indeed :-)
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.23.11 @ 1:09PM
Mr. Grant, That is a deadbeat LIE!
I have not completed negotations with amazon yet.
PS: The title of the book is now "America Alone Said NO".
You can only buy it on line at
www.txbooks.blogspot.com
Bob Grant| 6.23.11 @ 3:59PM
You can thank me for the free advertising of your book.
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:08PM
Yes, but you did it at the expense of Mr. Wickes, Bob.
By the way, Ken has an incredible 2 book series out, in "America Alone Said No!. " It should be subtitled, the Tragedy of Liberalism. It rockets along and does very, very well as a thriller. I have no financial interest in these comments.
Bob Grant| 6.23.11 @ 8:13PM
I read it. No, that was American Alone by Mark Steyn. NM.
t shirts | 6.23.11 @ 8:37AM
A serious candidate must do the same. Trump’s great contribution, in my humble opinion, was to provide a test of how to connect with all that anger out there.
Redstateboy| 6.23.11 @ 8:38AM
I believe ANY of the following combinations would sweep Hussein right out the back door of the White House with the rest of the Trash:
Perry/Pawlenty, Pawlenty/Perry, Perry/Cain, Pawlenty/Cain, Perry/Bachman, Pawlenty/Bachman.
All of the above have the fortitude to challenge Das Messiah on the results of his destructive policies yet also provide sensible Conservative policies that will halt the slide to Greece.
DaveD| 6.23.11 @ 4:49PM
Sorry, Pawlenty/Bachmann or Bachmann.Pawlenty is NOT possible. Pres and Veep have to come from different states.
rendite| 6.23.11 @ 5:59PM
It is custom that the two candidates come from different states, but it is required?
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:09PM
Yes. Electoral college rules prevent both candidates from being from the same state, I believe. RCV, am I correct?
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:28PM
Yes, in a qualified sense - The Twelfth Amendment prohibits electors from voting for a President and Vice President, both of whom are from the same state as the elector voting. So, theoretically, the GOP could nominate Bachmann/Pawlenty or vice-versa, but the Minnesota electors couldn't vote for them both even if they won Minnesota. ("The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves...".)
Margie| 6.23.11 @ 7:29PM
You're quick, RCV. Are you on retainer? :^)~.
RCV| 6.24.11 @ 1:23PM
When Occam says "jump", I say "how high?"
Clint| 6.23.11 @ 6:31PM
" The Constitution doesn't say that they cannot be from the same state. However, the 12th Amendment does say that electors may not vote for a President from their state and a Vice President also from their state. This issue came up in the 2000 presidential campaign when Texas Governor George W. Bush chose fellow Texas resident Richard Cheney to be his running mate. Cheney, who had served in Congress as a Representative from Wyoming, quickly changed his legal residence back to Wyoming to avoid the possible conflict for electors from Texas. Court challenges to Cheney's change of residency were denied. "
If both Bush & Cheney were ruled from Texas,the Texan electors would not have been able to vote for both Bush and Cheney. Presumably they would have voted for Bush for President, and either not cast a vote for Vice-President, or cast votes for some other person. In that case, Bush would have still won the Presidency with 271 electoral votes (to Al Gore's 266*, [ one D.C. Elector abstained]), but there would have been no winner in the Vice-Presidential election, because Dick Cheney would have had only 239 electoral votes (271 minus the 32 from Texas), and Joe Lieberman would have had only 266.
Since neither of the Vice-Presidential candidates would have had a majority of the vote, it would have fallen to the Senate to vote for the VP.
Tomp| 6.23.11 @ 8:46AM
Perry/ Bolton
JC | 6.23.11 @ 8:48AM
Once again the man constantly polling 2nd and 3rd is ignored.
Herman Cain is the only real electable candidate. He is a proven leader and what this country needs now is a leader not more politicians. He has laid out his entire agenda and if you read it you will see it will work! He believes we have enough intelligence that we can see for ourselves that it takes common sense solutions to solve this economic disaster. Check him out for yourself and see what I'm talking about.
Nina| 6.24.11 @ 11:11AM
I agree. Why is there no talk about this man?
As for the has-been dems who just can't seem to go away...eva!, it's nice (class and the fact that they did their jobs and now are done) that we don't hear from the past republican presidents getting involved with greenies and save-the-world kumbya crap! The has-been dems just can't let go of the limelight, need to feel relevent still, but only look pathetic.
hardcard| 6.23.11 @ 8:50AM
I think biden will be the new host of "The Worlds Dumbest" show on Tru-TV.
Prester John| 6.23.11 @ 8:53AM
Re: Perry
Everyone is aware that he was Al Gore's 1988 Texas campaign chairman aren't they?
Not a total disqualification, but still......
Matthew Quigley| 6.23.11 @ 9:34AM
To me it is. Perry's out the door.
Cain/Bachmann or Bachmann/Cain.
Prester John| 6.23.11 @ 10:23AM
I'd vote for that.
Al Adab| 6.23.11 @ 11:10AM
Is there room for Bolton in the mix? Perhaps Sec. of State?
Curly| 6.23.11 @ 7:33PM
Why, certainly!
Todd S| 6.23.11 @ 10:50AM
23 years is a long time ago and really should not be a concern. Like everyone knows, Reagan was once a big FDR supporter but learned the error of his ways. I much rather support a former Democrat who learned the error of his ways than a Rino. Perry may not be perfect for sure but he is strong in many ways and certainly is not afraid to take on Obama. He has a natural advantage in the very strong economic performance in Texas since Obama has taken office while the rest of the country flounders. Perry and Bachmann would be a formidable duo who would pull no punches against the failure that is the Obama/Biden administration. Cain is good I am sure but he doesn't have the following or experience necessary to win the nomination, just a fact.
Whatever Perry's weaknesses, he is clearly superior to Romney and might be the only one who has the ability to beat the Romney machine. I believe Romney would make a fine Treasurer as he is an accomplished technocrat, that is where he belongs.
sablegsd| 6.23.11 @ 11:25PM
Cain/Bachmann or Bachmann/Cain sounds good to me.
Who Knows?| 6.23.11 @ 9:22AM
When one is a new whippersnapper, say just “graduated” from high school with a whole life ahead to be lived in enjoyment and suffering, it is close to insanely intolerable to be around some older people who live in the past.
You know---bring out the photos, and these days, videos or more, and play the “I used to---“ game.
Get a life, you old fart!
Well, as an old fart, myself, these dire days for America, for quite a while NOW, in the pundocracy circles I regularly visit, such as the weekly blast from our dear leader, Mr. Tyrrell, the other side of the “used to” escape from HERE-NOW reality invariably gets played out---
“It will be---“ As that bad ass Martin Heidegger, the Nazi philosopher, reminded all, humans, as Dasein, are continually spending their present tipping point of TIME consumed by---the future.
My point?
Obama is STILL president!
Just as reveling in the “used to” memories of the past is an illusory attempt to escape the HERE-NOW present, so is playing the prediction game of opining about what “will be”.
“Que sera, sera, what will be will be, the future’s not ours to see, que sera, sera.”
Perhaps life as a conventional whole, as we wholly separate individuals try to make sense of painful realities that turn out counter to our desires, the entire dance is nothing but---
BREAD and CIRCUSES.
In the political dimension, why all one has to do is turn the “used to” and “will be” defense mechanisms on themselves by simply pondering the serial “killers” who “make the news”, especially on the left---
There we find the TOP clowns under the big tent of big government spreading the stolen BREAD all around---and that’s the truth!
I “used to” look down on oldsters who spent their retirement tending a garden, when I was young.
For all you present day vital humans who may “pity” such people, while you believe you’re oh so much more productive, and hence not “worthless” like a retiree who fiddles with dirt, consider your own “will be”---“I ARE one”!
Not to put too fine of a religious point on this TIMELY consideration, but maybe the most basic way to understand how each human “moves and has his Being”, is to realize that we EACH want to be the all-powerful dictating GOD, and since we must encounter OTHER similarly disposed humans, no one comes close to achieving this born desire.
Me---I am at once empowered and humbled by playing with gross soil and seeds and water as the sun shines or wind blows. Getting down and dirty---that’s my recommendation!
At least after the natural season built in to the seeds, your effort MAY result in REAL edible results, unlike meditating on “will be” about who the next president might turn out to be.
Finally, allow this old math major to lay a core axiom on you—
The pigeon hole principle.
If there exist ten boxes, say, and ten pigeons, well then, in a “nature abhors a vacuum” way, they will each eventually harbor one pigeon. That’s life!
Or, as my old man used to put it about movies, “It’s in the script”.
Come November 2012, IF you are still alive, there will be chosen a president—oh, wait!
Maybe it “will be” that America, as a self-governing set of humans, disappears.
Oh, where will I be, when used to be is kaput? HERE NOW?
Handy| 6.23.11 @ 2:40PM
You seem to be quite senile. Check into hospices in your area, before it is too late.
Who Knows?| 6.23.11 @ 5:01PM
Hospices?
You mean there's more than one of me?
Killerman| 6.24.11 @ 4:11PM
Too much Jack today, or you are a genius.........
I stand back.... or in awe! Did Charles Manson smuggle in an Ipad ?
Anthony| 6.23.11 @ 9:29AM
Hmmm, no mention of Gov. Palin. In any event, bon voyage.
If we don't elect a solid, articulate, purposeful conservative, with the guts and determination to do a 180 on the Obozo agenda, it will be bon voyage to America as we knew it.
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.23.11 @ 10:29AM
I was just about to say the same thing. But she is on jury duty. Some innicent people are smiling and the guilty of Alaska are fouling their shorts.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 11:25AM
Assuming she completes it without quitting halfway through.
Steve A| 6.23.11 @ 11:32AM
I wish Obama would quit halfway through to completely dismantling the economy.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.23.11 @ 11:34AM
I don't bother with silly realities of the mindboggling stupidity and lack of integrity of I the dithering idiot liar in california on readers betting on the likelihood I the dithering idiot liar in california will actually pay up when the dithering idiot liar in chief is routed in the 2012 election matters.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 1:39PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......skippy.
Steve A| 6.23.11 @ 1:51PM
Is there some sort of wager here?? I like to gamble.
DRed| 6.23.11 @ 3:14PM
Steve, I'll take a piece of that action. Whatever it is.
Steve A| 6.23.11 @ 3:50PM
Here is the bet: 2012; you get Obama, I take the "lame" GOP field for the Presidency. Name the price.
DRed| 6.23.11 @ 4:19PM
You like whisky, Steve? How about a bottle of 15 year old Macallan? I'm amenable to counter offers.
Steve A| 6.24.11 @ 9:43AM
Works for me. It's on!
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.23.11 @ 5:46PM
I don't bother with silly reality the posts of I the dithering idiot liar in california being suitable for 'American Tyrant' 'American Fascist' 'American Communist' or 'American Socialist' on the overwhelming ridicule due to the unsuitability of the posts of I the dithering idiot liar in california receive on 'American Spectator' matters.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:30PM
Occam!!! Your patient is waiting!
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.25.11 @ 4:36PM
I don't bother with silly continual derogatory posts of Palin's integrity while continually posting my support for giants of integrity Pelosi and Boxer and Feinstein and Waters as genius californian commentator on continual posts displaying my pathetic and despicable unintelligence and dishonesty continuously matters.
RCV| 6.25.11 @ 8:55PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.26.11 @ 2:06PM
I don't bother with silly,
when being called out on posts advocating for the party of fifty three million abortions,
while simultaneously, sanctimoniously, boasting of being a devout churchgoing real Christian of love and compassion,
responding to being called out on these posts as immature nauseating drivel,
on the irony of yet again revealing an utter lack of integrity,
while responding yet again patheticly, despicably, unintelligently, and dishonestly, to being called out on posts alleging Palin's lack of integrity,
while ignoring the integrity of Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, and Waters,
yet again sanctimoniously revealing the maturity level, queasiness factor, and meaningfulness of these posts,
all based on sixty four years of reason and experience,
matters.
Killerman| 6.24.11 @ 4:13PM
Yup, it IS charlie!
Redstateboy| 6.23.11 @ 1:46PM
Laugh-out-Loud... How Predictable!!! All it required to tweek a Liber-ul to post a comment was the simple mention of Sarah Palin's name and (Ding!) there's RCV.
Does it not remind you of Pavlov's Dogs?? (Ding!) "Sarah Palin" and a Liber-ul will crawl out of the wood-work and make some utterly inane remark.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:31PM
Kind of like you and Obama, huh Redstateboy?
Tax All Liberals| 6.23.11 @ 2:10PM
Palin resigned her position because the piling on of nuisance suits by Progressive Liberals was interfering with her ability to govern. Instead, she used her intellect and wisdom to earn a large fortune thereby ensuring her family financial comfort for the rest of their lives.
That is called "smart".
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 6.23.11 @ 5:58PM
I don't bother with silly realities like the intelligent and honest reason for the resignation of an individual of self-evident integrity when posting pathetic and despicable comment #3,730 as the morally unprincipled fraudulent deceiver vomiting excrement on 'American Spectator' matters.
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:11PM
OOOHHH, cruel RCV. But you, know, if she quits her VEEP will be better than Obama, too.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:33PM
That wouldn't have been true with McCain, and I doubt it would be true with Palin, unless she was smart enough to pick a Colin Powell.
russel| 6.23.11 @ 9:38AM
Thanks for your vote of confidence E.T.. Way too far out , but some of us think zero will take his ball and go home , before the election . He's already hinted at that . Like any good dictator , no doubt he will have a stash that would set him for life . Heck , look at Bubba , he's got what , a 100 million ?. Well , wishful thinking anyway .
Derek Leaberry| 6.23.11 @ 9:52AM
Obama is helped in that his party of malcontents and freaks are more cohesive than the Republicans. Think about the Democratic coalition- homosexuals, blacks, Hispanics, Jews, feminists, urban cultural liberals, government workers, teachers, lawyers and assorted other losers. They are united in that they hate the historic American nation. They loathe the white men who dominated the nation until recently.
The Republicans are split. Some want to pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq and some do not. Some are globalist and some despise globalism. Some worship at the altar of absolute free trade and some question free trade's benefits. Some support a vigorous use of American troops beyond America's borders and some want to withdraw from many overseas entanglements. Some despise cultural conservatives and want cultural issues off the table and some emphasize social issues. Neo-conservatives and paleo-conservatives passionate hate each other. Big business conservatives look down upon Main Street Republicans and social conservatives who, in turn, are growing in contempt for Big Business.
The Republican coalition, and not the Democratic coalition, is the more volatile. The Republican coalition is the more difficult one to piece together.
Dagny Taggert| 6.23.11 @ 1:57PM
You bring up a good point Derek. Notice the Democratic coalition is made up of labeled groups and the Republican coalition is made up of supporters of different policies? Therein lies the biggest frustration for conservatives: We give thought to ideas and policies analyzing them and testing their effectiveness through history. The liberals just want to win, name-call and make sure each group gets their own little crumbs from the pols they elect.
The thoughtful, policy-analyzing liberal would already be on the DEP's endangered-species list if they were only able to look in the mirror honestly.
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:21PM
Dear Derek,
Where's the White Wimmen at?
Hyman Rickover, Uriah P Levy, Murderous Manny Segal (One of the top Marine Fighter aces of WWII), and the awesome armor commander Maurice Rose come quickly to mind as patriotic Jews and great warriors. But, her's a good list of famous Jewish Americans in the military. Also keep in mind that Hammering hank Greenberg, the greatest Jewish baseball player ever, was the first major leaguer to sign up in WWII, and the one who served longest---otherwise, he would have easily hit well over 500 homers.
Sergeant Sam Dreben, served in the United States Army in the Philippines, Panama Canal Zone, the Pancho Villa Expedition, and World War I, also fought in Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, and the Mexican revolution. Noted for his prowess with machine guns.[1]
Moses Jacob Ezekiel, Confederate Army soldier[2]
Jack H. Jacobs, colonel, Medal of Honor recipient
Leopold Karpeles, (Civil War) Sergeant, Medal of Honor recipient
Uriah P. Levy, (War of 1812) First Jewish Navy admiral; ended the Practice of Flogging; bought, restored, and gave Montecello (Jefferson's home) as a gift to the American people. First Jewish Chapel at the United States Naval Academy named for him.
Joseph Liebgott, served in Easy Company, 506th Battalion, 101st Airborne Division in the Second World War, Technician (T/5)
Robert Magnus, general, Former Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps
David "Mickey" Marcus, (World War II), Army lieutenant colonel, West Point graduate, Divisional Judge Advocate, Division Commander, attended the "Big Five" meetings, volunteered to join D-Day airborne assault without formal training. Distinguished Service Cross, Bronze Star, and British decorations. Volunteered to Israeli Army to defend against Transjordan Arab Legion. Became first Israeli Brigadier General, and served as Commander of Jerusalem front.
John B. Oakes, Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army, World War II; Bronze Star, member of O.S.S. (the Office of Strategic Services); also Croix de Guerre, Medaille de Reconnaissance (France), and Order of the British Empire
Mark Polansky, NASA, USAF (Ret.), Space Shuttle Commander
Arnold Resnicoff, Navy Chaplain, Special Assistant (for Values and Vision) to the Secretary and Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force (Equivalent military rank: Brigadier General)
Hyman Rickover, United States Navy Admiral, Father of the Nuclear Navy
Jeremy Michael Boorda, United States Navy Admiral, 25th Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) and first CNO to have risen from enlisted ranks
Jack L. Rives, Lt. General, USAF, TJAG (The Judge Advocate General of the Air Force)
Maurice Rose, Major General, (World War II) Negotiated the unconditional surrender of the Germans in Tunisia, Commanded 3rd Armored Division: the first division to cross the German border and the first to breach the Siegfried line, killed in combat
Robert Rosenthal, Lieutenant Colonel, USAF in World War II
Jeffrey S. Feinstein, colonel, flying ace of the USAF in the Vietnam War
Tibor Rubin, (Korea) Medal of Honor for actions in battle and in Chinese POW camp
Martin Dannenberg, U.S. Army intelligence officer during World War II
Brigadier General Edward S. Salomon, (Civil War)
Haym Salomon, (American Revolution), Sons of Liberty, Financier
Francis Salvador, (American Revolution), "Paul Revere of the South"
Norton A. Schwartz, general, Chief of Staff of the Air Force
Marvin A. Sibulkin, Sergeant Major, U.S. Army 1958-1983; Legion of Merit, Bronze Star (9th Inf Div, Vietnam), Bronze Star 1st Oak Leaf Cluster (Vietnam), Defense Meritorious Service Medal; 3 Army Commendation Medals, other
Judah Touro, (War of 1812), civilian volunteer in American Army, Philanthropist
Michel Thomas, (World War II), awarded Silver Star for service with 45th Infantry Division in 1944; CIC Agent, 1945-47
Yeah, there are a lot of Jewish Lefties. But even they contributed---Oppie was the head of the design team for the A-bomb that ended WWII bloodlessly for the Americans. 1 million US troops would have died without his genius, and the genius of Feynman, Teller, Szilard, Einstein, etc.
So giveth unto me a break.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:34PM
Well said, as usual, OT!
Margie| 6.23.11 @ 7:36PM
Occam: one of Amspec's best.. are they worthy? :^)
George S| 6.23.11 @ 10:31AM
Kennedy challenged Carter because Kennedy wanted to push the party further left and felt that Carter was pushing it to the center and not doing enough on health care cost containment (i.e., not enough government intervention). In other words, he ideally wanted an Obama. Maybe that explains why no challenge. The Democrats are making their stand and are going to either live or die on Mount Obama.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:36PM
Good observation on Kennedy, George, but the reality is that the part of the Democratic Party that is the least receptive to Obama is the far left wing, who see him as too compromising, too militaristic and too tied to American business interests.
Oldefarte| 6.23.11 @ 10:33AM
Many of us HOPE and pray that Bob's analysis for/of CHANGE proves accurate. My refinement of his point is that Republicans have mostly proved efficient as political leaders, while Democrats are an extension of their snakeoilism of dispensing governmental welfare for their indigents' returned votes [and this is why D's are inept at anything post political office other than community organizing type behaviors]!!!!!!!
SPgordon | 6.23.11 @ 10:39AM
For awhile I have been patient. More than patient. But the medias purposeful ignoring of Mr Herman Cain in this race is becoming quite evident. How can you do detailed examination of the GOP race and not even mention his name?
First - even if people knew nothing about him they would be impressed with the fact that for an "unknown" he continually polls in the top 3-4 of ALL probable candidates and in the top 3 of declared candidates. Second, his oratory alone makes him stand out from this bland (except for Bachmann) field of wannabes. Third, NO ONE is owed the presidency simply because they have held a political office. There are life-time politicians sitting in DC who have no idea how to solve the mess we are in.
Herman Cain is a graduate of Morehouse College in Mathematics, Purdue University in Computer Science, helped develop ballistics while working for the US Navy. Started at the bottom of his industry and WORKED his way to the top of several corporations eventually serving as Chairman of the National Restaurant Association - that's the umbrella organization for ALL those places you like to eat. As he says - he climbed his way up the corporate ladder - how many ladders does he need to climb to be taken seriously?
Add to all this his staunch conservatism and an ACTUAL compelling life story - he came from NOTHING -from parents who walked off of farms with nothing and were descended from slaves - but who refused to play victim or to teach him to do so. He came from nothing - was chosen most likely to succeed - and proceeded to do so.
He's been faithfully married for 43 yrs with two children and three grandchildren. He could have retired to the golf course. But he believes and millions of Americans do also - that his gifts, talents, wisdom and business experience can be brought to bear to turn this economy around and teach Americans to believe again.
http://arealleader.com
http://twitter.com/THEHermanCain
MANY pages on FB
Oldefarte| 6.23.11 @ 1:22PM
You don't have to convince many of us concerning Cain, since simply listening to his common sensical explanations to problems is evidence enough of his viability. Most of the current Republican candidates would make excellent nominees and presidential candidates, and the extensive time until 11/2012 will provide for consideration of each/every one of the R's!!!!!
Clint| 6.23.11 @ 10:43AM
" May6,2011:
Ron Paul cannot get elected” President, declared Donald Trump at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference. Trump, who has never run for office, let alone won an election, may want to reconsider his parroting of this common refrain: A new CNN poll finds that, of all the Republicans being discussed as potential presidential candidates, the longtime Texas congressman has the greatest chance of beating Barack Obama, while The Donald comes in dead last.
In a hypothetical match-up between Paul and Obama, Obama beats Paul by only seven percentage points (52 to 45 percent). Meanwhile, Obama bests former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee by eight points, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney by 11 points, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich by 17 points, former Alaska Governor and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin by 19 points, and Trump by a whopping 22 points."
crookedwren| 6.23.11 @ 10:49AM
Trump will only enter the race to split the vote -- a la the latest New York election with the fake Tea Party guy. Beware the Donald.
Jack fromWi. | 6.23.11 @ 2:56PM
There are 3 polls out there in the last few months that show Ron Paul with the best chance to beat Obama. 2 of them were on the front page of the Drudge Report. Notice how Bob Tyrell did not mention the candidate with the most fervent followers, most fundraising ability, clearest principles, and greatest intellectual heft Ron Paul.
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:24PM
And, of course, Ron Paul also has the greatest Pork money grabbing abilities among his fellow Republican Congressman, as well as the strongest position favoring drug legalization. Plus he would surrender to the Islamic terrorists in a heartbeat. No thanks.
Clint| 6.23.11 @ 9:51PM
You're A Slandering Liar Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Tool Job.
"On October 10, 2001, Congressman Ron Paul led the effort in Congress to give President Bush the tools he needed to capture, dead or alive, Osama bin Laden and the other terrorists responsible for September 11th. Dr. Paul introduced on that day H.R. 3076 - The September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001.
If passed, that legislation would have given President Bush an additional weapon against bin Laden. If Dr. Paul's legislation had passed in 2001, it is likely bin Laden would not have been around until May of 2011."
Clint| 6.23.11 @ 10:11PM
"First, The truth is that if you removed all the earmarks from the budget you would remove 1% of the budget. So there’s not a lot of savings. But, even if you voted against all the earmarks, actually, you don’t even save the 1% because you don’t save any money. What is done is those earmarks are removed and some of them are very wasteful and unnecessary, but that money then goes to the executive branch."
Dr. Ron Paul supports forwarding the requests of his constituents that $400 million of funds that the federal government has already taken from them and designated for spending be returned to their district.
Ron Paul never trades earmarks for "Yes" Votes.
Dr. Ron Paul: "In reality what we need are more earmarks. Just think of the 350 billion dollars that we recently appropriated and gave to the Treasury Department. Now everybody is running around and saying, “We don’t know where the money went, we just gave it to them in a lump sum”. We should have earmarked everything. It should have been designated where the money is going. So instead of too many earmarks we don’t have enough earmarks. Transparency is the only way we can get to the bottom of this and if you make everything earmarked it would be much better."
Aaaand also, "What if, for example, the WSJ gets its way and the president is given the line item veto? Couldn’t the president, as Dr. Paul points out, threaten to cut funding from a recalcitrant congressman’s district if he didn’t support the president’s proposed legislation? "
Clint| 6.23.11 @ 10:23PM
Economic Buffoon Israel Firster Tool Job Is An Argument Against Himself.
Tool Job Doesn't Grasp Dr.Ron Paul's Principled Stand Regarding Earmarks/ Appropriations.
Hint#1: What's An Appropriations Bill?
Hint#2: How many Appropriations Bills has Dr.Ron Paul Voted For ?
"REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS: Well, it might be.
But I think you're missing the whole point. I have never voted for an earmark. I voted against all appropriation bills. So, this whole thing about earmarks is totally misunderstood."
victor| 6.24.11 @ 1:44AM
Ever notice how the word Buffoon is a favorite of Paulbots and Paleocons in replying to "The Neo-Cons"???
Everybody's just so damn stupid to these geniuses.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:39PM
The reason Paul polls best against Obama is that he attracts the very left of the Democratic Party, for whom Obama is too pro-military and too pro-interventionism. If Paul actually was the nominee, however, I seriously doubt the left would stay with him once he began talking domestic issues.
Clint| 6.23.11 @ 9:59PM
"Ron Paul Calls Social Security and Medicare Unconstitutional, Compares Them to ‘Slavery’
WALLACE: You talk a lot about the Constitution. You say Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid are all unconstitutional.
PAUL: Technically, they are. … There’s no authority [in the Constitution]. Article I, Section 8 doesn’t say I can set up an insurance program for people. What part of the Constitution are you getting it from? The liberals are the ones who use this General Welfare Clause. … That is such an extreme liberal viewpoint that has been mistaught in our schools for so long and that’s what we have to reverse—that very notion that you’re presenting."
"On the right-to-life issue, I believe, I’m a real stickler for civil liberties. It’s academic to talk about civil liberties if you don’t talk about the true protection of all life. So if you are going to protect liberty, you have to protect the life of the unborn just as well."
RCV| 6.24.11 @ 1:26PM
My point exactly. In a real general election, he'd lose almost all Democrats and most Republicans and Independents. He'd be lucky to garner 25%.
Jack fromWi. | 6.24.11 @ 10:17PM
Nonsense: Dr. Paul polls best by far among independents. No prowar candidate has a chance to get much of the independent vote. If he gets the nomination he will be the most formidable candidate. His issues like ending the wars, ending foreign aid, bringing home the troops, sound money, return to the Constitution, balanced budgets, are the ideas the country is talking about.
crookedwren| 6.23.11 @ 10:47AM
If you want to be educated and shocked by Ike and JFK, read "None Dare Call It Treason." I haven't finished it yet -- makes me want to throw up at times -- but I'm learning a whole lot of American history that isn't being taught anywhere in the US of A.
Ike sold us out while making grand statements. And as for JFK, his Bay of Pigs and the way he helped destroy the anti-Communists in the Congo -- well, I'm beginning to believe WE'VE been primarily responsible for the establishment and growth and maintenance of Communism/Marxism in the world since the Bolsheviks.
Ike and Jack K. talked the talk, but -- boy -- they did NOT walk the walk. And my dismay has grown deeper.
But, please, folks, read "None Dare Call It Treason" and Whittaker Chambers' book "Witness."
Leon Panetta's close friendship with Communists didn't keep him from his position. Why should it? We've had Communists creating foreign policy for decades -- so what if a guy who has access to our most vital secrets has shared info with a Commie pal? It's happening all the time.
loulou| 6.23.11 @ 11:01AM
What about Anthony Weiner's "wife" Huma Abedin who is Hillary's buttgirl? Her mother and brother are members of the Muslim Brotherhood. Why is she so close to our Sec State? How did she get a security clearance?
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:49PM
Loulou - the stuff about Huma Abedin's mother and brother being members of "the Muslim Brotherhood" are simply unsupported nonsense like the Kenya birth stories. Simply repeating it doesn't make it so.
Handy| 6.23.11 @ 4:14PM
Hey there crookedwren,
Responding to your last couple of thoughtful postings. First, Trump. Others have commented about his ability to create controversy, and they are right. The birth certificate issue and his rantings about tariffs on China are but two examples. However, Trump is a mere chimera.
Trump's father left him $165 million clear of taxes way back in the early 80's. "The Donald" burned through that in less than five years. Since then, he has been totally owned by the bankers. His serial failures have only funneled money to their coffers. They give him an allowance, but he can't make a move without their approval. Why do you think he dropped out of the race? Because he is more valuable to them as a carnival barker than as a candidate who could never win.
As for post WWII presidents: None have been good, but some have been worse than others. Ike missed a great opportunity to roll back all those New Deal programs. Instead, he expanded them, especially Social Security. While yakking about the danger of foreign alliances, ala George Washington, he committed us to NATO and SEATO. Ike also touted the interstate highway system, the largst public works program since the Tennessee Valley Authority. Was he bad? No. He played golf and let the rest slide by.
JFK followed Eisenhower. He was a total failure: from the Bay of Pigs to the Missile Crisis. He and his brother hated blacks, and there is no chance that, had he lived, he would have signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
LBJ, assisted by his SECDEF, McNamara, was simply a traitor to our troops and to our allies. Oh yeah, he also launched the Great Society, which has done more damage to minorities than Hitler's gas chambers.
Then came Nixon. He hugged Chairman Mao and kissed Kruschev. He gave us wage and price controls. He also said "We are all Keynesians now." Watergate was the least of his sins.
Ford? WIN pins, flu shots and prat falls.
Carter? The Misery Index and an inordinate fear of rabbits.
Reagan? He didn't really win the Cold War, but he let the Soviet Union expire. His massive tax cuts led to more federal revenue, but even more massive spending. Hence, our present predicament. Was he a bad guy? No, but he could have done so much more good.
Bush 41? Read his lips. He was lying. Betrayed our friends and left Saddam in power.
Clinton? A slave to his own appetites, but he did save Bosnia. Let Bin Laden off the hook a few times, however. Disbarred for perjury.
Bush 43? Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind. Troubled Asset Relief Program. Did not pursue victory in Afghanistan and Iraq until forced by circumstances. Bad man? No. He rode bicycles while the country burned.
Obama? This cretin is simply the caboose on a long train of presidents who never loved, nor upheld, the Constitution. Unhook him in 2012. He is holding us back.
A final thought about Whittaker Chambers. I read "Witness," and was unable to find any apology from the auhtor for his treason. He remained a commie to the end, and only went to work as a journalist to get some decent dental care. He is, was, and always be a despicable excuse for a human being.
RCV| 6.23.11 @ 6:41PM
The reason what you're learning from "None dare Call it Treason" isn't being taught anywhere in the USofA is that it is unadulterated fiction, from the group of 60s John Birchers who thought that Dwight Eisenhower was a conscious agent of the Communist Party. It made me throw up when I read it in high school, but for different reasons.
Laura R | 6.23.11 @ 10:53AM
I would like to know why the Candidate with serious answers, real solutions, and a wealth of experience pulling bankrupt corporations out of the red and into the black , who is polling a strong third is being IGNORED???? I can only surmise its because he scares the You-Know-What out of you media types.
I'm talking about HERMAN CAIN! The People's Candidate who everyone is afraid to report on!!
Check him out - he is polling AHEAD of Pawlenty, Bachmann, Paul, Santorum, Huntsman, and Gingrich, yet no one wants you to know!
http://hermancain.com
http://arealleader.com
Oldefarte| 6.23.11 @ 1:29PM
Just saw where Cain called out Romney for politically avoiding an upcoming Vegas debate. Cain's a player, and there's plenty of time of the voters to discover him!!!!!
Margie| 6.23.11 @ 7:42PM
I sing the praises of Herman Cain. Everyone ought to go to YouTube and listen in on when he hosted a radio program. I think he filled in for Prager.. he is absolutely Fabulous.
Oldefarte| 6.24.11 @ 3:04PM
Absolutely! The man, as a successful business person, simply has none of the usual political BS about him. He tells it like he sees it and like it usually is [or should be]. I'm keeping a focused eye on him, and his popularity and polling numbers should rise with time!!!!!!!
Larry| 6.23.11 @ 11:00AM
"When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes..."
-Thomas Jefferson, 1776
We fought a war for a lot less than our current situation.
Just sayin'.
Handy| 6.23.11 @ 4:20PM
Amen Larry,
I always cry when I read those words.
Oldefarte| 6.26.11 @ 1:55PM
Correspondingly, Boehner cries WHENEVER A FLY LANDS UPON A WALL!!!!!!!!!
Clint| 6.23.11 @ 11:01AM
"Tea party activists are divided roughly into two camps, according to a POLITICO/TargetPoint poll:
Palin, who topped the list with 15 percent, speaks for the 43 percent of those polled expressing the distinctly conservative view that government does too much, while also saying that it needs to promote traditional values.
Paul’s thinking is reflected by an almost identical 42 percent who said government does too much but should not try to promote any particular set of values — the hallmarks of libertarians. He came in second to Palin with 12 percent.
When asked to choose from a list of candidates for president in 2012, Palin and Paul also finished one-two — with Palin at 15 percent and Paul at 14 percent. "
Tom in Michigan| 6.23.11 @ 11:19AM
The greatest danger to the nation is the Democrats choosing the Republican nominee like they did McCain. If that sounds crazy, just consider the Republicans' idiotic primary system and the Democrats' complete and utter control of the news media. I told my wife, "Yeah. The corrupt, moribund, leftist press loves McCain now but, wait until you see how the rip him a new one - once he's the Republican nominee."
Was I right, or what?
You can already see the effort beginning to convince the Republicans to nominate another "civil" candidate. The only way to defeat the left is to go for their collective throats - call them out on each and every disaster they've visited on this nation - not just under the Obamavik regime but, going all the way back to LBJ and Dhimmi Carter and Mr. Bill.
The end is near! I know that's a cartoonish phrase but, unless we turn away from leftism, in all its putrid forms, the United States will not survive long as a republic, if it can survive the relentless destruction of its economy and the castration of its military policy at the hands of the left - at all.
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.23.11 @ 12:32PM
You were right in spades.
davelnaf| 6.23.11 @ 11:34AM
Many Euros will not take lightly to the idea that Bamster is a one-termer and a failure. Their commentary is still very approving of him, although not as adulatory. Most of what they say about his political prospects is laughable, to the effect that Obama still has a majority of Americans’ support—think RCP polling data and peg on at least an extra ten points above their already exaggerated numbers. His loss next year will come as an even a greater shock to the Euros than Bush’s reelection.
bobmontgomery| 6.23.11 @ 11:43AM
It would be racist for any Democrat to challenge Obama.
Dave Williams| 6.23.11 @ 2:12PM
The two Bushes "didn't do badly"????????
Sorry, Bush Senior, while a very decent man personally, wasn't fit ideologically to tie Reagan's shoes. And all you needed to know about W was that he willingly stood shoulder to shoulder with that piece of human puke Ted Kennedy. Sorry, both Bushes did MISERABLY (although not as badly as the current Pretender, but still....). I want a President who will not only talk like a conservative, but govern like one as well. Mr. Cain, are you up to the challenge?
Gary| 6.23.11 @ 2:43PM
I'm just wondering, how bad does a president have to be to score lower than, say, 30% in the polls?
I mean, does he have to wreck the economy, or turn our foreign policy upside down, or confiscate corporations, or brush aside corporate bond holders, or insult Christians, or steal money from taxpayers and give it to foreign banks, or pull the rug out from under Israel, or give aid and comfort to self-described Muslim enemies, or join with Mexico to sue a state, or ignore judgements from the Supreme Court, or give the finger to Hillary during a live TV debate?
I'm just askin' 'cause I'm really curious. How bad does it have to get before the press stops covering up for such a president? How about 50% unemployment? Do you think the press would notice that?
Steve A| 6.23.11 @ 3:56PM
Gary Gary Gary. Will you never learn. Take all of the above, with a liberal President & Liberal control of Congress & it would STILL be the fault of conservatives in the eyes of the leftist media & about 35% of the idiot public. These people would NEVER admit the error of socailist policies. Never.
Pelligrino| 6.23.11 @ 6:23PM
Gary, I wonder the very same.
I mean, sure the MSM is lame. But don't the 65-105 or so in the MSM who are actually heterosexually married (in church, too, not just a local govt. certificate) and who have children, don't they maybe care a little?
After all, those kiddies go off to that very pricey university and you notice you are still correcting their spelling and basic grammar $115,000 later.
And you know that PriceyLibU didn't help with arithmetic either because the kids continue to overdraw on their checking accounts.
Don't they get tired of them in the basement at 26 years old?
Please add to the list a president that pledges $5 billion? to Brazilian oil while still thwarting oil companies here.
Gary| 6.23.11 @ 8:46PM
Steve A and Pelligrino,
As I've said previously, Republicans have to get an A+ on the final exam to get a C in the class, while Democrats get an A+ in the class even if they flunk the final exam.
The mother of all stacked decks...
absinthe| 6.23.11 @ 3:29PM
There's a lot of talk nowadays (and there always has been) about nominating the most 'electable' candidate. I was reading a Bernard Goldberg column the other day in which he said that we needn't nominate our most conservative candidate, but should instead focus on the most 'electable' candidate. My response is: Well, the democrats nominated their most liberal candidate, why shouldn't we nominate our most conservative candidate?
I think it's a mistake to underestimate the electability of a truly conservative candidate. Just look at the Reagan example. What we need is a candidate with established conservative bona fides. Not someone who has flip-flopped on every issue just to become as 'electable' as possible.
Which brings me to Mitt. I just don't understand the attraction. I just look at the guy and yaaaaawwn. I've never seen anyone quite as "establishment." And there can be no doubt that his many flippity-flips have been opportunistic political maneuvering.
I will go so far as to say this: I think it's a good thing McCain didn't win in 2008. Without the Obama presidency, we wouldn't have the galvanized conservative movement we have today. One step further: If Mitt becomes the nominee, I almost think it would be better to re-elect Obama, and for the same reason. Maybe it will take complete collapse to make Republican voters realize that democrat-lite is not going to get the job done.
As far as I am concerned, this election belongs to Sarah Palin if she wants it. You can keep your Romneys, Huntsmans, and Newts.
But there is only 1 person currently running who has solid conservative bona fides. She has been speaking out on specific critical issues with a conservative viewpoint since long before it was "cool." And she's been doing more than just making speeches: She has been actively introducing legislation to get things done. Michelle Bachmann, of course. Right now, she has my vote.
DRed| 6.23.11 @ 3:33PM
"Well, the democrats nominated their most liberal candidate, why shouldn't we nominate our most conservative candidate?"
Dennis Kucinich is the President?
Doug| 6.23.11 @ 4:09PM
I like Bachmann, but boy-oh-boy I really hope Rick Perry throws his hat into the ring!
Occam's Tool| 6.23.11 @ 6:27PM
No, but as close as one can get to Dennis on the electable Dem side.
On the other hand, if you want Dennis Kucinich's foreign policy to be enacted, vote for Paul. Don't doubt that Dennis would be Paul's Sec of State.
Gary| 6.23.11 @ 9:03PM
Absinthe,You said, "If Mitt becomes the nominee, I almost think it would be better to re-elect Obama, and for the same reason."
If Mitt is the nominee, I think Sarah Palin or Bachmann should immediately form a third party and kill the Republicans' chances. At that point, they would certainly deserve it.
Doug| 6.23.11 @ 4:07PM
I believe congratulations are in order for Jimmy Carter. He is no longer the worst President in American History. Cheers Jimmy!
BackToBasics| 6.23.11 @ 4:57PM
Conservatives need to coalesce around ONE VERY CONSERVATIVE candidate very early in the primaries, maybe Bachman.
If conservatives split their vote too many ways in the early primaries, it will allow a moderate or RINO to get the nomination; just like 2008.
Posted above as well because I think it's important enough to note it twice.
Tom B| 6.23.11 @ 5:32PM
I just wanted to point out for your discussion that on Aug. 10, 2011 Gov. Perry met Obama at the Austin airport for all of 34 seconds. Perry attempted to pass a letter to POTUS complaining about the lack of federal assistance to the states on boarder security. I know Perry has done some conflicting things regarding the illegal problem, I just wanted say that "perhaps" there is some hope for him in regards to this major problem.
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.23.11 @ 7:21PM
Perhaps not.
Pelligrino| 6.23.11 @ 6:59PM
This is a lot of hot air.
No, it is not wrong to plan for the future (assuming you have a future).
But this is the continual swindle of...."Just wait and see...work hard for us, donate to us, rally for us, keep donating to us, elect us....and, just wait and see what we'll do for you 2 years from now!"
This is a distraction keeping us from 1) defunding/derailing Obamacare, 2) eliminating taxation, 3) eliminating government agencies, 4) ending government regulations, etc....the list is very long.
What? We don't have enough conservatives in state houses across the land already? Why can't they shout down the fools in D.C.?
This is fanciful thinking instead of doing the hard work RIGHT NOW.
A bit like, "I'm going downtown window shopping" while the roof is leaking everywhere and the house foundation crumbling.
Sure, someone will be elected in November 2012. But January 2013 is 19 months away.
The good citizens are VERY IMPATIENT.
Nite| 6.23.11 @ 11:12PM
We voted for Rick Perry three times for Governor. He had done an excellent job in Texas. I think that he will be a strong candidate for President and can certainly beat Obama. Obama refused a request for disaster declaration when the millions of acres of land burned and then snubbed Perry when he went for fund raising in Houston. Oh yeah Perry wants to beat Obama and he can.
weddingdresses | 6.24.11 @ 2:04AM
I just wanted to point out for your discussion that on Aug. 10, 2011 Gov. Perry met Obama at the Austin airport for all of 34 seconds. Perry attempted to pass a letter to POTUS complaining about the lack of federal assistance to the states on boarder security. I know Perry has done some conflicting things regarding the illegal problem, I just wanted say that "perhaps" there is some hope for him in regards to this major problem.
Tom B| 6.24.11 @ 6:13PM
Do I hear an echo????
Charles Martel| 6.24.11 @ 2:06AM
Please, for the love of God, will you people quit talking up Rick Perry? He talks conservative only when he has to, which has been a lot lately, but there's no point in believing even half of what he says.
The thing that all these people talking up Perry seem to have in common is that they do NOT live in Texas. Listen to the Texans! And pick someone else. Bachmann would be good: you can actually believe her when she hits the conservative points.
I'm a Texan. I'm telling you, avoid Perry. I told people to avoid Bush in 2000, and no one listened. The result: No Child Left Behind, the drug entitlement, and a border like Swiss cheese while the Justice Department put good men from the Border Patrol in prison.
Seriously, cut it out.
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jackc| 6.24.11 @ 9:08AM
Obama thrives on using cunning strategies to get re-elected to power, and to hoard money, while he pedals welfare, sacrifice, and poverty on America.
jackc| 6.24.11 @ 9:10AM
Obama thrives on using cunning strategies to get re-elected to power, and to hoard money, while he peddles welfare, sacrifice, and poverty on America.
Jim Bromley| 6.24.11 @ 9:47AM
Herman Cain is a problem solver. Ever wonder why the main stream media is all but ignoring him? Could it be they know he is the best candidate to beat Obama? If you haven't heard this mans solutions to many of todays problems, you are part of the problem. Herman Cain led last weeks Gallup Poll, But the media won't tell you this. Do your own homework and check Herman Cain out. You will be glad you did.
Constance| 6.25.11 @ 7:51PM
I was absolutely furious with Laura Ingraham last week when she stated on her show that Cain didn't stand a chance to win. I've heard that same sentiment come out of the mouths of many conservatives lately, and it really ticks me off. I think Herman Cain is fabulous - intelligent, a proven leader, funny, and a true conservative. It isn't just the left ignoring him - it is our own.
michael| 6.24.11 @ 10:13AM
Republicans have a big problem, and it is always the same problem: they have too many divergent groups and agendas to appeal to, and too many different prescriptions for governing the country. Democrats have no such problem, because they all agree with one fundamental: whatever is wrong, the solution is more government interference, and more gravy for everyone at the trough..
Yes, we all know who will win: Barack Obama. Not because he is a good President, but because he is in perfect sync with his base, who believe that the reason for his failure is not his policy but rather that he was not allowed to carry his policy to its full extent. So, let's have even more of the same: maybe the beer is flat, but if we drink enough of it, we will get high anyway.
Arimathean | 6.24.11 @ 12:05PM
I think you were a little too hard on Carter and way too easy on Bush II. Don't forget that Carter initiated the process of deregulation. And Bush laid the groudwork for Obama by ratcheting up federal spending.
Red Route 1| 6.24.11 @ 5:16PM
http://fellowshipofminds.wordp.....speaks-up/
Constance| 6.25.11 @ 7:49PM
I love the uplifting sentiment in the piece, but I am not as hopeful. Never underestimate the inherent stupidity of the American voter. So many will fall for anything. I'll hope for the best, and assume there will be just enough Tea Party and conservatives out there who actually show up at the polls and actually vote with their heads. We will see.
George Collins| 6.26.11 @ 5:48PM
Going back to the article that spawned these comments, Mr. Tyrrell is correct in that Obama will not win. He may not even run, if there's a post out there for him to jump to at the UN, if the polls don't look good by early next year.
However, we must face the reality that some of the hopefuls from the Republican side cannot win, which throws out the first supposition. They are Paul, Huntsman, Pawlenty, Santorum, and Palin if she chooses to jump in.
That leaves Romney, Bachmann, Cain, and Perry, if he chooses to jump in, which I believe he will.
The one that scares me is Romney, not because he is capable of getting the nomination, but because of his baggage, and his inconsistency on important issues.
The remaining three, Bachamnn, Cain, and Perry are exciting and could blow a hole in the Democrat machine for years to come.
Marty| 6.26.11 @ 9:04PM
alas I thought Hillary Milhouse Clinton Rodham would try to unseat King Borat Hussein Obama also.... but it looks like she'll have to wait again.
the latest rumor on Drudge was something about running the World Bank. Maybe she can do for the WB what she did for Madison Guaranty in Arkansas. namely Loot it to the hilt then blame everybody else and hide all subpoenaed documents until the statutory limits have been exhausted............ will she ever go away ?
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weddingdresses | 6.27.11 @ 4:50AM
I love the uplifting sentiment in the piece, but I am not as hopeful. Never underestimate the inherent stupidity of the American voter. So many will fall for anything. I'll hope for the best, and assume there will be just enough Tea Party and conservatives out there who actually show up at the polls and actually vote with their heads. We will see.