Consider if you will what I
wrote last November after the reviews came in for Sarah
Palin’s Alaska:
Let them sneer at reality television and social networking
to their heart’s content. The fact of the matter is these things
mean a great deal to people. Whether we like it or not, who
wins Dancing with the Stars
means more to people than our monetary policy. Whether we
like it or not, people define themselves by their Facebook status.
All Palin has done is to tap into this new reality. She is merely
using the social networking medium the way Ronald Reagan used
television when he hosted General Electric
Theater. While Palin espouses traditional
values she is not taking a traditional path to the presidency. The
question is whether she can carve out her own path to electoral
success.
Assuming Palin decides to take a run at the White House,
she will undoubtedly do so with the knowledge that she will
encounter enormous barriers along that path led by a liberal media
(with a little help from some condescending conservatives)
determined to keep President Obama in office. In fact, she should
expect them to be a thousand times more arduous and vicious than
those she faced in 2008. The difference now is that no one will
stop her from clearing the brush. With her pioneering spirit, this
time she gets to do things her way.
Well, now consider what Chris Cillizza and Aaron Blake of
the Washington Post have to say about Sarah
Palin’s impromptu bus tour which commenced over the Memorial Day
weekend. They
write, “What’s clear from her bus tour, though, is
that if Palin runs for president, she’ll do it one and one way
only: hers.” And why shouldn’t she? Would we expect Mitt Romney,
Tim Pawlenty and Ron Paul to do it any other way? This is her name
and her tour on her terms. In the spirit of Frank Sinatra (and
for that matter Nina Simone), she
is going to sing “My Way” her way.
Come to think of it, Palin’s bus tour evokes another
Sinatra song. When you consider the behavior of the liberal media
in covering her latest journey, Palin is not only resolute in
conducting it her way but in doing so demonstrates that
she has them on a string. How many private citizens are capable of
getting a hundred reporters to
follow their every move on a moment’s notice? Justin Elliott of
Salon
complains, “What would in a just world prompt a round of
self-reflection by the national press corps will instead continue
indefinitely until Palin gets bored.” Alright, but who exactly is
stopping the media from covering Sarah Palin? It’s not like there
aren’t other things happening in the world. After all, Congress is
debating whether to increase the debt ceiling, Egypt’s new
regime is as cruel as the
one that preceded it and, of course, Lady Gaga’s new album has just
gone
platinum.
But the liberal media has a vested interest in covering
Palin. They passionately supported President Obama’s election in
2008 and will vigorously support his re-election bid next year
despite their disappointments (i.e. not closing Gitmo, increasing
troop presence in Afghanistan and compromising with Republicans on
tax cuts). If Obama is to be portrayed as hero and champion for the
downtrodden, then by necessity there must be a villain who is to be
portrayed as a lightning rod of discontent. For the liberal media,
Palin is their straw man to be feared, loathed and ridiculed. She
is simultaneously viewed as a symbol of a value system that
threatens their cherished beliefs while at the same time is viewed
as someone not intelligent enough to be in the same room with
President Obama whether or not she seeks his office. Even if she
doesn’t challenge Obama there will be plenty of Palin to kick
around. But therein lay the contradiction. If Palin is someone who
isn’t worthy of serious attention then why go to all the trouble of
turning her into public enemy number one?
Three and a half years after becoming a national public
figure, the liberal media still haven’t learned how to treat Sarah
Palin as a rational human being with a different set of values from
their own. For three and a half years, Palin has been the target of
their slings and arrows. Over time, Palin has been better able
shield herself and to choose her battles more carefully. During the
course of these battles, Palin has learned how and when to pull
their strings. If Palin can pull the liberal media’s strings, then
imagine what she could do with President Obama’s thin
lines?
dee see| 6.1.11 @ 6:17AM
Palin has NEVER said a word about the
RED China eco-TREASON op, has been far from
even vigorous on matters such as the banker bailout and the ILLEGAL private Federal Reserve
and comes of like the latest Tavistock Institute
engineered and planted novelty front.
IF she and Donald Trump run ---it must be
a '60's Show' Flintsones op for our dumb down
to the point of senile aging demographic.
THIN Pebbles Flintstone and Barney Rubble.
An inside joke for all capstone FREEMASONS
---like, no doubt, Trump himself.
Appleby| 6.1.11 @ 7:31AM
I wish you would stop posting this in every single thread! Can nothing be done about this troll?
Dustoff| 6.1.11 @ 9:46AM
I SO agree.
Alan Brooks| 6.1.11 @ 10:11PM
Dee See makes sure he beats everybody else to the punch by getting up early to be first on the thread.
Barney Rubble and Pebbles? GEEZ LOUISE IN A BOTTLE!
Alan Brooks| 6.1.11 @ 10:15PM
"Palin has NEVER said a word about the
RED China eco-TREASON op"
Why would she want to? why would any relatively sane person want to?
Reagan Loyalist| 6.2.11 @ 5:35PM
Amen!! Please manage this site in a responsible way. Grace is sometimes delivered with the rod!
Reagan Loyalist| 6.2.11 @ 5:48PM
What has happened to this thread? It seems to have gone from a serious discussions of the topics of the day to a smarmy MTV like blog.
Sad! AS, please clean it up. I am in mourning over the loss the civil discourse this thread used to be.
mmercier| 6.6.11 @ 2:37AM
I have recently discovered it is unwise to criticize Sarah, in any manner.
Just got booted as a troll from the Freep after a frigging decade.
Sarah is my new god, all hail her greatness.
Retards, and venal nitwits rule.
jppc| 6.1.11 @ 7:45AM
I will you would learn to spell, geez. Public school graduate no doubt.
Dan Hirsch| 6.1.11 @ 8:54AM
Graduate? Not even...
Bill| 6.1.11 @ 9:10AM
To be a public school graduate would require some minimum ability to focus on something other than rap music.
Sam Vaughn| 6.1.11 @ 8:08AM
Dee, pure obfuscation. I never thought Palin was stupid, even though among supposedly conservative friends they buy into the premise. But, now, I'm impressed. Conservatives have been forced to compete on a playing field with rules not of their making. In fact, the referees are openly favoring the other team. A gutsy person say's, I'm not going to play by their rules anymore and changes the playing field. Smart and gutsy.
T H Huxley| 6.3.11 @ 8:59PM
Palin isn't stupid? Palin just said that Paul Revere was going to warn the British Army about the Revolutionary War. For crying out loud, most eighth graders could refute that. Palin said it in such a tortured way that it took some time to figure out what she was saying. For that matter, most eight graders have better grammar skills than Palin.
The half-governor Palin is just trying to extract another few million out of the tea baggers. Palin sells the tea baggers a book she could never have written, she chargers the tea baggers extra to take a photo with her, and she charges the tea baggers an entrance fee to hear her speak. The only thing all this proves is that the tea baggers are more stupid than Palin.
Dan| 6.4.11 @ 7:27PM
So, this is wrong, too? http://legalinsurrection.blogs.....ogize.html
T H Huxley| 6.4.11 @ 9:58PM
I wish you guys would go down to your public library and check out a book on American history, rather than relying on the nonsense posted at some web sites. These books even have quotes from Paul Revere himself. The British army occupied Boston after the Boston Tea Party, a fact Tea Party members should probably know. On the night of his ride, Revere instructed the sexton of the Old North Church to hang two lanterns as a signal to Charleston that the British were starting a march towards Lexington and Concord by first crossing the Charles River. Revere rowed across the Charles River. On the other side, he started his ride on a borrowed horse. He first rode to Lexington, and along the way, he told other patriots of the British Army’s movements. These patriots rode out and spread the word across Middlesex County. Revere arrived at Lexington around midnight, and rode on towards Concord but was arrested by British troops before reaching Concord. When morning neared, the British heard shots, panicked, took Revere’s horse, and let Revere go. Revere didn’t shoot any guns or ring any bells along the way.
Doug| 6.21.11 @ 4:05PM
Oh, my! I'm feeling faint! THX has besmirched Sarah! Corpseman! Corpseman! There MUST be a Corpseman in these 57 states somewhere!
A.Men| 6.1.11 @ 9:10AM
Troll.
Palin 2012.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:38AM
I agree. Palin is playing the fossil media like the trained chimps they are. Btw, did anyone see the idiot on MSNBC who said that she should stop "illegally" using the American flag in her bus tour? What a pathetic chowderskull; as if we or Sarah Palin need advice on proper respect for the AMERICAN flag from some limey wanker.
PS the troll dee see is always on here because his mommy doesn't know he's stopped taking his meds
Betty Jean Haggers| 6.1.11 @ 9:22AM
I am sorry to inform the readership of The American Spectator of the death of one of our nation's most beloved country singers Loretta Lynn. She died at 9:00 A.M. this morning in her home outside of Nashville.
I know all of you will join me in praying for Loretta's family and her millions of devoted fans.
I'm so choked up I think I'll go lie down for a bit.
Jessie Ray Dowless| 6.1.11 @ 9:24AM
No!
Loretta can't be gone. No, God, no! I just heard her singing on the radio yesterday.
Chiquita Goins-Oxendine| 6.1.11 @ 9:28AM
Maybe Sarah can comment somehow on Loretta's death--make some emotional statement about how Loretta was a National Treasure or something like that.
If Sarah did this--and she's a smart cookie--I believe it would win her lots and lots of supporters. Everbody loved Loretta!
Sadie Suggs| 6.1.11 @ 9:32AM
Chiquita, I believe you're on to something here.
Sarah Palin can connect to millions of country fans by expressing her grief over Loretta's death. And I know all those women on motorcycles that hover around Sarah, pattiner oh the back and such-- I know they are probably all Loretta Lynn Fans.
God bless Loretta, and God bless our rising star Sarah Palin!
Jessie Johnson| 6.1.11 @ 9:35AM
Just as God was on Loretta's side, I believe he stands right ther beside Sarah as she toats the flag of old fashioned Christian values. And I hope she toats it all the way to the White House,
What this country needs is an old timey rivival to knock the socks off every liberal in this holy land.
Octagon Soap| 6.1.11 @ 9:37AM
You're preaching to the choir, Jessie.
But it's tote, not toat. She's toting the flag of old-fashioned Christian values.
Fatback by the Yard| 6.1.11 @ 9:41AM
Sarah was one sexy Harley Hog wearing them wraparound sun glasses and that helmet and that black leather.
Man it really turned me on. She's one hot mama!
But I shouldn't be talking like this with Loretta dead and stuff .
Marva Mullins| 6.1.11 @ 9:44AM
Show some respect pig.
Sarah Palin is far more than a Sexy Harley woman. You're demeaning her and Loretta (God rest hersoul) at the same time.
All you men think about is what's inside a womans panties.
Fatback by the Yard| 6.1.11 @ 9:46AM
Well I know a lot of men who would like to get inside Sarahs panties.
Lawd have mercy Mr. Percy!
Marva Mullins| 6.1.11 @ 9:49AM
Filth! Go wash your mouth out!
Jasper Watson| 6.1.11 @ 9:52AM
I was sittin on the toilet this morning reading about Sarah Palins bus tour when I heard on the radio about Loretta dying. I got up from there and went in the kitchen and I said to my wife Lorettas dead, and I thought she would kill over right there.
She was cooking me some fried eggs and bacon and then she started crying.
Yes its a sad day for our country.
Wanda| 6.1.11 @ 9:54AM
So sorry to hear about Loretta.
But back to the living : Run Sarah Run!
Cpm| 6.1.11 @ 11:23AM
I hope you washed your hands first.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:39AM
You know, even those of us who are NOT Christians would vastly prefer Palin to the race hustling demagogue currently infecting the White House
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:39AM
You know, even those of us who are NOT Christians would vastly prefer Palin to the race hustling demagogue currently infecting the White House
Roy| 6.1.11 @ 9:57AM
Somebody has WAY too much time on their hands.
A: Loretta Lynn(who I had never heard of till just now) is not dead.
B: Every single one of these trolls is the same idiot. Posting one right after the other with a different fake name. For pete's sake, did you graduate from kindergarten?
Roy| 6.1.11 @ 10:14AM
But like Fatback by the Yard, I must admit that Sarah's got sex appeal. Hot mama? Righto!
Robert T.| 6.1.11 @ 10:15AM
Reading this blog is like reading the Titticott Follies.
Edna| 6.1.11 @ 10:19AM
Everybody--every single person--who comments on this blog is a little crazy. Go ahead and read their posts again, and you will see what I mean.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:40AM
including you Edna?
Bill| 6.1.11 @ 10:39AM
Don't drink the bath water!
Bill| 6.1.11 @ 10:40AM
Titicut. Don't drink the bath water!
Frederick Wiseman lives!
Roy| 6.1.11 @ 10:20AM
And the above, once again, is the troll. TAS doesn't have any type of authentication and somebody with far too much time on their hands has clearly figured this out.
From here on out I think I'll leave this troll to something he is obviously very good at, playing with himself.
89| 6.1.11 @ 10:29AM
"playing with himself"
Roy, there is no need for you to stoop to the vulgarity of most of the other posters. Try to retain some dignity when posting.
Jethro Clampitt| 6.1.11 @ 10:18AM
Funny, I just had coffee and bourbon with her not hours ago.
p o p| 6.1.11 @ 10:23AM
With Sarah?
She's so common, so slutty, soooooooo cheap. I'm not surprised about her having coffee and bourbon for breakfast.
Bill| 6.1.11 @ 10:32AM
Yeah, but there's no reporter talking about giving her head for supporting some conservative policy, is there?
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:42AM
wow, Palin really does threaten your pathetic excuse for "masculinity"! You and your kind are going down in flames, you tax-fattened vulture
Teaghan| 6.1.11 @ 11:12AM
And best of all, Sarah will probably mean it.
Walter Cronkite| 6.1.11 @ 10:20AM
Nice troll action. What's next? Are you going to announce that Playboy and Palin agreed on a photoshoot?
Give piece (a piece of action)| 6.1.11 @ 10:25AM
Palin's appeal is too porno for Playboy. Too porno.
Playboy's models are a bit more refined in appearance . . . and decorum.
yuyu| 6.1.11 @ 10:26AM
Porno? You can say that again.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:43AM
wow, Palin really does threaten your pathetic excuse for "masculinity"! You and your kind are going down in flames, you tax-fattened vulture
PS Im using the same post, because you are the same gutless troll over and over again.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:42AM
wow, Palin really does threaten your pathetic excuse for "masculinity"! You and your kind are going down in flames, you tax-fattened vulture
Seek| 6.1.11 @ 5:58PM
This is terrible. I really was a fan of hers, and not just because of the movie, "Coal Miner's Daughter," or the fact that Jack White (i.e., the White Stripes) produced one of her last albums. She was the real thing. Let there be peace in the valley.
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 8:49AM
that's too bad. what a legend.
Bill| 6.1.11 @ 10:26AM
What's the Tavistock Institute? What do they do?
Bill| 6.1.11 @ 10:30AM
What's a "capstone Freemason?" I've heard of Freemasons, and I know something about them, but I don't know what a "capstone Freemason" is. Will you help me out on that?
cowgirl| 6.1.11 @ 10:29AM
Liberalism is a Mental Illness - Read the book.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:45AM
exactly so! If one unwashed nutcase stands on a street corner babbling disconnected nonsense, everyone thinks "hey, lookit the crazy person is his meds". Get together a thousand such filthy unwashed types, and suddenly, they're a "movement"
89| 6.1.11 @ 11:35AM
Filthy unwashed types?
Sounds like the Harley Hogs that surrounded and salivated over their sexy mama Sarah on one of her bus tour tops.
Controse| 6.1.11 @ 12:15PM
Man, are you for real?
Jack von Bauer| 6.1.11 @ 2:21PM
dee pee...
Jamie W.| 6.2.11 @ 1:29PM
That the best you got? We'll win, then.
Kenny| 6.1.11 @ 6:35AM
Sara Palin is a breath of fresh air to the political smog that has settled over American politics since Slick Willy truned the Oval Office into a pig sty with his barnyard behavior.
It's funny, though. Just when you thought you've seen the wrose with the Clintons, along comes B. Hussein Obama and his Third Worldishness.
Vern Crisler | 6.1.11 @ 6:50AM
Run, Sarah, Run! The liberals (and a few loons on the right) have said just about every awful thing one could say about her, so she's possibly been vetted even more than Ronald Reagan was. Sarah brings interest and excitement to the Republican field; none of the other candidates -- who are they? -- comes close.
89| 6.1.11 @ 1:04PM
Sarah should run all right--with her verbal incontinence she need to run to the toilet.
89| 6.1.11 @ 1:06PM
correction: needs
don't care to sound "urban"
Shamika| 6.1.11 @ 1:06PM
Racist scum!
Brian Mc| 6.1.11 @ 6:53AM
Obama/Palin debate. I wonder which one would be a "no show"...? And the excuse, I'm sure, would be smuggly justified.
canuckistani| 6.1.11 @ 4:23PM
Easy answer: Palin. BHO hasn't resigned from anything, yet. Any GOP candidate will hammer her candidacy with that simple fact.
Her only claim to fame is being a sideshow talking head parroting Norquistisms.
The best evidence yet that she brings zero to the country's dialog is the devolution of O'Reilly's gratiousness to her since 2008. He's a classic skirt chaser and even he can no longer be seduced by it.
irish19| 6.1.11 @ 9:02PM
Yes, he did. He resigned from the Senate to run for President two years into a six year term. This after promising the people of Ill. that he would not do so.
canuckistani| 6.1.11 @ 10:25PM
I hate it when you guys make me look stupid, I feel like such a useful idiot everytime it happens.
irish19| 6.2.11 @ 7:51PM
It happens. Surrender to the dark side. Resistance is futile. Come join us. /cue Twilight Zone music.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.1.11 @ 6:54AM
Aaron,
You know, I have always been pretty safe taking Sarah at her word.
I've studied her words pretty carefully, too.
She has made her position perfectly clear.
She will run if there is nobody she can wholeheartedly support...........but with one caveat.
That Person Must Want Her Support!
Obviously she scares the dickens out of the luke warm Repub candidates. Some of the others simply cannot accept being upstaged by a gifted woman.
She was the ONLY breath in the entire McCain campaign, yet his handlers shut her down.
One thing I have learned is that IF she runs, it will be only because she feels she has a reasonable chance...of RESTORING the American dream thereby.
I honestly think she is testing that question in the crucible of the deep blue States in the Northeast.
Stop and think about it a moment. She is presently demonstrating a hugundous "curtsey" to the proud history and significance of those States and their people.
Only Time will tell if those people will respond in kind.
yuyu| 6.1.11 @ 10:20AM
"hugundous" ?
Old Texican, are you off your meds again?
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:46AM
wow, Palin really does threaten your pathetic excuse for "masculinity"! You and your kind are going down in flames, you tax-fattened vulture
PS its the same post because you are the same pathetic troll over and over again.
Seek| 6.1.11 @ 6:02PM
Palin's poll negatives are sky-high. She has her army of True Believers, but beyond that she will attract nobody. She's simply too shrill, lightweight and inexperienced to be taken seriously. And she confuses God and country routinely. I don't think she has a prayer.
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 8:52AM
then why are you commenting?
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.1.11 @ 11:00AM
YUYU,
"hugundous" is my word to be added to the Oxford dictionary this year. (heh), Sarah added the word "refudiate" last year.
Another good adition to the English language.
canuckistani| 6.1.11 @ 4:25PM
If she was so states rights and pro-America why didn't she end all pork coming into her state?
Oh yeah, she quit before she could.....boo hoo.
dee see| 6.1.11 @ 6:57AM
Time for the BOGUS right to join the BOGUS
left by fronting its own girl.
TAVISTOCK Institute fingerprints all over the place.
They call it a 'novelty op' ---all synthetic ---all
POP program derived. Utterly empty.
"On every level, in every way, America has political cancer."
-ALEX JONES
(yesterday)
---Grab your TRUTH wherever you find it.
(Pebbles Flintstone MEETS Barney Rubble = Palin/Trump---------it's TRUE!)
chuck| 6.1.11 @ 7:36AM
Time for your meds and another shock therapy session. Your lobotomy is scheduled for next week.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:47AM
wow, Palin really does threaten your pathetic excuse for "masculinity"! You and your kind are going down in flames, you tax-fattened vulture
PS its the same post because you are the same pathetic troll over and over again.
Drunken Sailor| 6.1.11 @ 11:21AM
I bet your bookmards have nothing but conspiracy theories sites. You my friend are well versed in the bizzare, problem is you believe it.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 1:02PM
I heard there is a chance that there will be a man that has no visiable back gound. No viewable records to his highly touted education. There is no verifiable confirmation as to his place of birth nor nation of origin.
This person claims to be a combination of many diferent races from African to Irish to Caucasion to Black to name only a few.
This person has never made a public stand on any issue even with decades of life in public office.
This person has told so many stories that the latest cancels out the one just three stories ago.
This persons religous background is about as simple as the stories of lost artifacts such as the the Shroud of Turin & as easily verifiable.
It is said that this person could become POTUS - but that is just hear say...or is it?
Appleby| 6.1.11 @ 7:34AM
I think she is having more fun making the media jump up and down than she would ever have running for President!
Redstateboy| 6.1.11 @ 8:31AM
I agree with you Appleby - absolutely.. I think Sarah's enjoying giving the media - as Limbaugh refers to it - as the Liber-ul Media tweek of the Day. It's becoming so obvious - she drives the Liber-uls Nuts - Insane with irrational rage - making them appear utterly ridiculous and small.
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 9:55AM
I agree. She is an expert at tweeking the media which is fun to watch. I'm not sure how this talent translates to being an effective president and commander-in-chief.
Let's just give Sarah a talk radio show and call it a day. Hmm?
rdman| 6.1.11 @ 3:33PM
Someone posted a day or two ago that your comments had left silliness way behind... now your comments are moronic.
Still being moronic, eh Bob??
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 3:43PM
When did truth become moronic?
canuckistani| 6.1.11 @ 4:29PM
Her voice is like nails on the chalkboard. Separating her voice from her bonne visage would be suicidal for her.
My wife had the same impression of Edwards and other attractive candidates with little to offer otherwise.
She has to keep her face out there to be relevant.
A. C. Santore| 6.1.11 @ 8:53AM
I agree. I have great respect for her, but I think it would be a mistake for her to run for the presidency. The numbers are just not there, nor will they be after what would be a very destructive campaign.
I'd hate for her to be responsible for four more years of the dictator-in-waiting.
She should establish residency in Arizona and run for the Senate, where she will do much good.
TennesseeVolunteer| 6.1.11 @ 9:06AM
You actually believe any polls from the MSM?
At some point, a leader leads. they don't check polls, they don't wait until they have overwhelming odds like Colin Powell always said (If he had been in charge of the Three Hundred Spartans, Greece would have been taken by the Persians!)
We are all looking for Republicans who have the fire in the belly to save this country. I want as amany Republican firebrands to run as possible so the purifying fire of the primaries will make it clear to the American public that the direction and leadership of this country is going directly over the cliff.
I don't want, and we don't need, people running who ooze with politcal correctness and proper "political speak" like McCain, Dole etc.
Let her run..if she wins...Great!
If she loses and someone even better wins....Even Better! But let them speak and let The People make up their mind!
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.1.11 @ 10:50AM
Volunteer,
well spoken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 9:58AM
Here, Here... she has a role to play in all of this. Just not running as president. I hate to quote George Will but he is correct when he says that there are not undecideds when it comes to Sarah. Everyone who will vote in 2012 already has made up their minds on Sarah and the numbers are not good. In some polls, they are staggering.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:51AM
the GOP "experts" said the same thing about Reagan back in 78-79. People vote their pocketbooks and because of their daily concerns, not because of what Will, Krauthammer or anyone else has to say at a seminar, or in a position paper, or aboard some cruise ship in the Caribbean. The "matching tie and handkerchief" crowd has backed losers like Bob Dole and John McCain, so if anybody needs to take a good long look in the mirror, it is they, not we the people
Teaghan| 6.1.11 @ 1:13PM
John McLame. What a bad judgement call that was. What a disappointment he was. I often wondered if it was a set up to give barry a clear field to win the presidency.
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 8:54AM
ridiculous comment. Most people don't decide until a few days to a few weeks before they vote. next.
Jeremiah| 6.1.11 @ 10:08AM
Don't know how old you were in 1980, A.C., but you have just repeated the argument that the Republican establishment gave for why we must not, under any circumstances, nominate Ronald Reagan. The Carter campaign said bluntly that they hoped Reagan would be the nominee because they knew they would beat that wing-nut, warmonger. The GOP establishment said Reagan would, at best, destroy Republican hopes for a generation and might just bring the whole party down in flames. Their great hope was John Connally or, failing that, George H.W. Bush. What a bunch of dumbasses.
I didn't listen to their counsel then and I think I will ignore your "wisdom" now.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.1.11 @ 10:52AM
Santore,
STUPID!
She will either be President...or President maker.
...or we will have civil war.
canuckistani| 6.1.11 @ 4:33PM
...or not.
The war of Texas secession will be one of "meh" by everyone in the country. You are a debtor state now, and shooting for majority hispanic within 10-20 years. Buh bye. er Adios.
Mimi| 6.1.11 @ 7:40AM
To all male chauvinist in hiding....To all envious ladies...Lay it down, forget it....JUST take one GOOD look at a GREAT, RARE, ONE OF A KINDER, human being! What do you see? ONE great American...loaded with commen sense, Patriotic, loaded with character and courage. She would make a great candidate....And will tell it as it is!!!
canuckistani| 6.1.11 @ 4:44PM
There have been many irritating men over the years as well. Newtie and Giuliani are similar in their audacity without a complementary poll number to buttress their windiness.
She is a quitter, a sideshow without an original idea - and that has nothing to do with her gender. Her life story is not compelling enough to get her past the visceral animosity people have for her. Until Trump came along, she was on her own, but he is the male embodiment of her.
My wife has a deep seated animosity for her stemming from her shameless attempts to co-opt the values voters and cannot even offer her own family story as evidence these values are defensible at all.
I want a leader and a manager that can conjure up new ideas, sell them and then enact them.
She has not demonstrated any of those criteria to me.
Three years in the public eye with only a downward rating means she is a non-starter.
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 5:16PM
Well put. Conservative or liberal?
canuckistani| 6.2.11 @ 9:29AM
Fiscally conservative, socially conservative in my home, but want government 100% out of those affairs. Possibly libertarian on social policies, and very libertarian on foreign policy.
Firmly believe in the "render unto caesar" dividing line.
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 8:57AM
wow...such utter ignorance. you do realize she was a city council member, mayor, governor, an oil and gas commissioner and VP of the Alaska Governor's Association? You obviously are too ignorant to read anything factual but her resume speaks for itself and it's outstanding.
Obama quit, so did Hillary Clinton and so do millions of other people to pursue higher goals. The world is full of "quitters." Old, tired line, get a new argument.
canuckistani| 6.2.11 @ 9:22AM
She quit and left her state. These other "quitters" you mentioned, put their names on a ballot and asked to be hired for higher office. They took the risk.
Can you imagine if Ryan had not had his divorce explode onto the public we would not be here right now? Think about it.
Palin has risked nothing and has cashed on people's real frustrations and fears. Probably the most cynical examples of hubris in recent memory. Sad.
Alaska has a total population of an Atlanta suburb, and a tri-partite economy split between military, oil/gas and a fishery. The state is almost uniformly white, mostly male and has as much to do with the real economy as Guam.
I do not doubt voters on a national level, and these facts about her are not mitigators but clear signs we need more to consider.
irish19| 6.2.11 @ 7:55PM
I am going to assume the Ryan you meant was the man who ran against zero for Senate. That being the case, you are absolutely right. Had his divorce records not been made public against his (and his ex-wife, 7 of 9) wishes, zero would never have been elected to the Senate. The MSM led the charge to open those records.
jppc| 6.1.11 @ 7:43AM
Isn't it funny how American Jews, mostly very liberal, hate Palin so much yet she is very openly and sincerely supportive of Israel.
Strange, no?
MikeBee| 6.1.11 @ 7:57AM
jppc,
Sarah is overtly Christian. After what the Jews endured in Germany at the hands of an ex-seminarian, they hate Christians so much that they are willing to follow an Obama to the destruction of Israel.
Dan Hirsch| 6.1.11 @ 9:03AM
Mike;
Ever see her gubernatorial office in Alaska? She had an Israeli flag on permanent display on the credenza behind her. Any supporter of Israel who thinks she'd call for the '67 borders like the Hopey Changey one, is out to lunch.
I'm thinking even the most liberal of the coastal Jews in America are starting to wake up to that.
BTW I endured stuff at the hands of a number of seminarians - it turned out to be some of the best education available. Do not smear seminarians and do not project your hatred of one faith for another onto others.
Any true Christian who has read the New Testament knows that Christ came to save EVERYBODY, not just the Jews. Who exactly did the Muslim prophet come to save?
Methinks, that you, MikeBee, need to take a little time and reflect on who it is you are mad at.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 10:50AM
Odd, the Jews endured the same fate in Germany under an ex-artist as well, yet they don't seem to have any objection to the arts.
Could it be, MikeBee, that you're the one filled with hatred for Christians?
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 1:09PM
Not once have I heard of Hitler saying he did anything 'in the name of art' - not even before killing any people.
You lack logic.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 2:14PM
Look it up. Hitler was an aspiring painter in his youth - and I don't mean a house painter. He applied for admission to the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna twice, but was rejected both times. Apparently, they thought he was better suited for a career in architecture. Google "hitler's paintings" and you'll get a good look at his work - as an artist.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:54AM
MikeBee,
Hitler was a pagan occultist, not a Catholic. Equating the likes of him with a conservative Christian is an insult to every CHRISTIAN soldier who helped defeat the Third Reich, including my grandfather.
Read your damned history before spouting off next time. Dumbass
jppc| 6.1.11 @ 11:47AM
Correct, plus Hitler was a socialist, something most school teachers seem to fail to understand. The word "nazi" was an abbreviation in German which meant National Socialist German Worker's Party. "na" came from NAtional, "z" came from the word "socialist" in German, which is spelled with a "z" instead of "s". The "i" comes from the German spelling of the word "party", which is "partei".
The Nazi's were socialists, just not as hardcore as the Soviets but socialsts nonetheless. They believed in collectivism.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 1:10PM
The Nazi party was Fascist. History is amiss in these parts.
jppc| 6.1.11 @ 2:15PM
Fasicism is more a political style than economic model, there is not real economic model "fascism", which basically means a form of favoritism/cronyism. Economically, the Nazi's were a mix of socialist and fascist, hence their name National Socialist German Worker's Party. Socialism played a major role in Nazism.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 2:31PM
The Nazi's were socialists - deal with it. Yes they were Fascists, but guess what, Fascism and Socialism are pretty much the same when get to actual policies. The difference between the two is subtle. In pure socialism, the means of production are owned by the State and run as part of a centralized command economy. In Fascism, the means of production are technically privately owned, but are completely controlled and run by the State as part of a centralized command economy. Fascism added an element of racial or ethnic purity not found in socialism as originally envisioned, but which has been adopted in modified form by many modern socialists.
Incidentally, prior to our alliance with Stalin in WWII, it was a given that the Nazi's were socialists - nobody claimed otherwise. But when allied with Stalin to defeat them, it was deemed necessary to change the way they were portrayed so as to make an easier distinction between our enemy and our ally in the minds of the people being called upon to kill one and die for the other. Since then, lefties have picked up the "Nazism is right-wing extremism" fallacy because they have found that perpetuating it assists them in generating hatred for those who do not share their left-wing point of view.
As with your ignorance of Hitler's talents as an artist above, look it up.
In fact, maybe you should try educating yourself BEFORE you post, and thereby save myself and others the trouble of educating you afterwards.
Seek| 6.1.11 @ 6:07PM
I hate to inform you, but Hitler was a baptized Catholic and though he mixed it in with Wagnerian "Ring Cycle"-paganism he never disavowed Church dogma. The undoctored photos showing him and Vatican prelates during his regime are but the most overt evidence. There is much more.
Joe Schmuckatella| 6.1.11 @ 11:19AM
"After what the Jews endured in Germany at the hands of an ex-seminarian...."
Hitler was never in the seminary. But Stalin was. And I seriously doub that Stalin learned much while in school.
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 11:51AM
MikeBee: No, Jews DO NOT HATE CHRISTIANS. But the detest anti-semites like you.
Sam Levi| 6.1.11 @ 3:59PM
This Jew loves Sarah and would/will vote for her.
Palin/Cain or Cain/Palin!
Dan Hirsch| 6.1.11 @ 7:03PM
Hey Sam! If she saved any 08 posters, all they have to do is balnk out the "Mc". But there may be billing issues...
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 9:23AM
jppc: Why are you singling out Jews? There are plenty of Christians who don't support Palin and support Israel. Your KKK sheet is showing
jppc| 6.1.11 @ 10:03AM
Well I "single out" Jews because Jews are heavily liberal, whereas, Christians (as you call Americans) are much more varied in their political views.
Jews, Blacks, Latinos, Asians and Mooooslims all skew heavily liberal/democrat. Facts are tough things to ignore. One way to return the USA to a more limited form of government is to reduce the percentage of non-white immigrants. Otherwise, under Barry bin Obama, the nation will transform into a 3rd world simple majority rule democracy, instead of a constitutionally limited republic.
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 11:46AM
jppc: Are you a native American? Were your forefathers here when the first explorers came to the Americas? If not you have no right to point your finger at anyone of us whose ancestors came to America as immigrants, as I suppose your ancestors did. You do yourself a great injustice and an injustice to our country, our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution, which is the envy of all people world wide and the reason they emigrate here. They, like your ancestors, have every right to come here, become citizens, vote, work and like you complain. Think about it.
Also, please explain by your comment "whereas Christains (as you call Americans) are much more varied in political views" Are you intimating that citizens of the Jewish faith ARE NOT AMERICANS? Yes, your white sheet is still visable. Thinking about it it's you who is the "alien" not the "Jews, Latinos, Asians and Moooslims (as you prejudically put it) point a finger at not being REAL AMERICANS. I think you better read the Constitution and the Declartion of Independence. Do you know what they are?
jppc| 6.1.11 @ 11:52AM
da monkey, yes I am a native born American. I was born here as were my parents and their parents before them. Were you born here? If not, that would make you an alien - either legal or illegal. If you were legal, you could petition to become a citizen, that is called being a naturalized citizen.
Secondly, we citizens do have every right to allow or deny or increase or decrease the number of aliens permitted in our country because, ah, it's OUR country and not the ALIEN'S, duh. It's called immigration policy, it's not a natural phenomenon; it's man-made policy, which can and does change over time. In fact, if citizen's don't have a right to influence policy (immigration or otherwise), then we are not living in a constitutional republic after all.
Your education for the day is over. I'm exhausted trying to straighten out your public school training.
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 2:35PM
jppc: I didn't ask if you were a native American born here, I asked if you were a Native American i.e. American Indian. Yes my father was born in the U.S. and my mother in Poland and came here when when was 4 in 1914. No one said we don't have the right to limit immigrants. I am complaining about your lumping all Jews, Hispanics, Blacks, Mooooslems as either Liberals or non Americans. I was in the 11th Airborne Division, I have two nephews who graduated the service academys. One was the chief navigator for our Air Force in Europe, the other served in the first Iraq war and his tank was the first tank to enter Iraq. My oldest cousin was a medal winning Marine raider in WW II another was bomber pilot in WW II. I'm Jewish and I'm as red blooded an American as you claim to be.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 1:14PM
The POTUS ignores the Constitution readily, at will. Libya ( going in and later not involving Congress for extended action) just the most recent (that I am aware of) example.
canuckistani| 6.1.11 @ 4:50PM
You may be confusing Jews with Zionists. Last I checked, a majority of Israelis want a deal based on 67 borders. American Jews follow the same poll numbers.
Just because the fringe wants it does not make it right or even practical for US policy.
As far as Palin's delusions about Israel - who cares? She is uninformed and should be keeping her mouth shut about issues she has zero to contribute to - which means she should be mute on everything.
Get elected, keep the job, then we can consider her views on things.
dee see| 6.1.11 @ 7:48AM
TAKE HEED--------------------
the 'Big Boys', the 'Men behind the curtains'
are fond of word ops in names.
As the Banker Bailout, the FED, the RED China
TREASON op, and that 1.4 quadrillion in
FAKE derivatives debt isn't even being mentioned ----as we are being bled dry
Sarah Palin ----'Sera' Paling
Que sera, sera ---pale-ing.
OR is it 'pail in' as in our self respect and sovereignty being lopped off and dropped in?
YOU DECIDE
Mike Hawk| 6.1.11 @ 7:59AM
Have you ever considered running for DNC chair?? You would be a perfect successor to Howard Dean and Next after Debbie Wasserman Ditz.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 1:17PM
Debbie Wassername is still holding a slight advantage over our new found troll.
Bill| 6.1.11 @ 10:36AM
Wow, I never thought of it quite that way! Of course, you're right! I must have been misled by the Tavistock Institute and those capstone Freemasons. But now I see the light.
Nunya| 6.1.11 @ 10:42AM
Dude. Really.
Put your tin foil hat back on, and step away from the keyboard. It really isn't necessary to type out every moronic thought that comes to your mind. If you have something intelligent to contribute, please do so; otherwise, let the adults do it.
Charles Easterly| 6.1.11 @ 7:51AM
Mr. Goldstein,
You wrote "Whether we like it or not, who wins Dancing with the Stars means more to people than our monetary policy. Whether we like it or not, people define themselves by their Facebook status. All Palin has done is to tap into this new reality."
I think that you have helped explain Governor Palin's popularity among those of our fellow citizens whom you might call the "common denominator" of our society.
How would you try to explain her popularity among those of our fellow citizens who eschew pabulum and concern themselves with critical national issues, such as monetary policy?
Regards,
Charles
Sam Vaughn| 6.1.11 @ 8:07AM
I never thought Palin was stupid, even though among supposedly conservative friends they buy into the premise. But, now, I'm impressed. Conservatives have been forced to compete on a playing field with rules not of their making. In fact, the referees are openly favoring the other team. A gutsy person say's, I'm not going to play by their rules anymore and changes the playing field. Smart and gutsy.
roadmaster| 6.1.11 @ 8:12AM
Palin isn't catnip to these people: more like loco weed....
I think her negatives are too high - probably jiggered by her enemies, but still up there near insurmountable territory. BUT, I love the woman! She's doing to the snotty elites what the rest of us only wish we could; feed them their own crap sandwich and they sure don't like it...
Sarah Palin - TWEAKING, not tweeting, since '08.
Dan Hirsch| 6.1.11 @ 9:26AM
roadmaster,
Maybe you don't recall the criticism of Reagan of the mid - to late seventies. There has not been one slam thrown at Sarah that was not thrown at Reagan, except for the paternity insults of her children. Reagan responded just like Sarah did; he smiled, waved and kept talking to the American people.
Like Reagan, when Sarah talks real, red-blooded Americans understand her. She doesn't need interpreters or brand managers walking back what she said or telling the electorate what she really means.
A true leader does not do the usual things, does not follow the pre-set path. A true leader sees a problem and figures out the best way to solve it-whether it is a proven method or not.
What we are seeing in Mrs. Palin is God-given talent combined with an intense desire to help her beloved country.
Some run for office because of what it can do for them, some run because of what they can do for it. Mrs. Palin, to my eye, is one of the latter - as was Ronald Wilson Reagan.
C'mon Sarah - keep keeping your powder dry, until the moment is right, then let 'er fly!!!
Don't tread on me!!!!
PS
Oh, yeah, and another thing. Remember how eventually all that Rose law firm stuff, the futures trading stuff, the Vince Foster, and all that other Clintonian smut finally just slid offa Bill and Hil'? Well, in Sarah's case, everybody knows that NONE of the dirt thrown at her is true and it has already slid off. They cannot really think that they can throw those old chestnuts 'she spent a lot of campaign money on clothes' or 'her daughter got pregnant' or 'she didn't abort the little Down's Syndrome baby, when she had a chance' at her and expect them to overcome her plain spoken common sense. (Remember Tom Paine?)
And if she is so dumb, how come they hang on her every word and follow her like the two-bit papparazzi they have become, bitching endlessly because she won't give them her itinerary? Looks like a leader to me, boys!
And one more thing, in my book, any pol or talking head who says that she can't run, or won't run, or can't win, is at heart an elitist or an elitist wannabe. Bill O'Reilly, Brit Hume, Chuck Krauthammer....I'm talking to you! (Chuck is Trump in or out, anyway?)
TrueBlue| 6.1.11 @ 5:21PM
It still sickens me that they actually tried to say the fact that she didn't abort her Down Syndrome baby is/was a negative thing.
Blaming her for her daughter getting pregnant is silly at best too. Can try to teach your kids right from wrong, how to act, etc. but in the end they are their own people, and you can't watch them every second of the day. How many liberal idiots have had their kids get pregnant? Do they feel superior because they got an abortion instead of taking the more difficult road of having and raising the child?
Dan Hirsch| 6.1.11 @ 7:06PM
Remember the Hopey Changey One saying that if one of his daughters made a "mistake" he didn't think that "she should be punished with a baby.."
That is very, very inhumane and non-Christian thinking in my book...
Louis Jenkins| 6.1.11 @ 8:22AM
And the news media complains that Palin is creating a dangerous traffic jam, possibly even a wreck, because she's not forthcoming with her next stop. Monday she stopped in Gettysburg, yesterday she went to Philadelphia, and on to NY city. Keep chasing her you bunch of packrat mudslingers! You'll be a lot more tired that she will. Palin is a decent person and draws huge crowds. Yes, step outside the box that the newsmedia has drawn and you can find room to grow a decent constitutency. Good work Palin.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 8:33AM
Here is the big question about Sarah Palin. If she runs for President, will the campaign be about her, or about Obama?
I think if the 2012 campaign is about Obama, we win. Period. If the electorate have nothing to talk about but Obama's policies, then they will vote for the Republican, even a boring, luke-warm Republican (and we've got plenty of those). In that regard, a boring candidate might actually be the best (though he or she might then not be able to effectively govern).
But if Sarah Palin runs, will Obama be able to use the media circus surrounding her to hide from his own policies? In other words, if she runs, does she give Obama the cover he needs to hide from himself? Does she give him something to run against, as opposed to forcing him to run ON something?
I don't claim to know the answer to that question, but if her running is going to give Obama cover, then she shouldn't run. If, on the other hand, she can effectively focus the campaign on his myriad failures, then she should (and would win). This is what she has to figure out, and if she runs, what we ALL have to figure out.
One thing is for sure. If Sarah Palin runs, the Republican primary becomes a referendum on her. She is the 800 pound gorilla in the Republican room. So far she's done about the best job of anyone I've ever seen of campaigning for President without actually running.
Dan Hirsch| 6.1.11 @ 9:35AM
They'll throw the same old crap at her and she'll say 'America, do you want jobs, a strong defense, and a strong dollar or more Teleprompter.'
They'll have to pass a slaughter rule for Obama - Palin debates. Because up to now, there has been not too much crying in politics...(Sen Eagleton...)
But I don't see Sarah crying, I see the littlest President trying to stare holes in Sarah's head with his little petulant chin jutting petulantly out as she stands and delivers "America, had enough yet?" I CAN'T WAIT!!! Remember the Netanyahu photo op? It'll be that times a million...
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 9:53AM
Dan Hirsch,
I can see that chin just as you describe it.
I just wish Palin could see the wisdom of a little voice coaching. No change of message, just a more pleasing delivery. She lets her voice get too high and sounds like she is pleading. Wouldn't a little "Thatcher" sound better?
Dan Hirsch| 6.1.11 @ 10:09AM
John,
I saw her speak live last year. It was at a Right-to Life event so she wasn't using the well practiced campaign stump speech. She'd written the speech specifically for the event, so she wasn't real practiced. She came accross as REAL, nothing less.
Yeah, she does work a slightly higher register than I'd like. But, do you think it's really broke? I say, she's a girl, she should be herself. A lot of her appearances force her to get loud ( like in Madison Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago.) that also raises the screech factor a little. I can't think of too many women, except many Lauren Bacall at 20 who don't have a little screech in their voices.
And to all those yahoos out there saying, are you going to trust Sarah with the nuclear 'football' I say this: the Israeli military after a lot of testing in the 1970's figured out that women make great fighter pilots because they take a whole second LESS time to push the launch button to take out an adversary than men do....
And another thing - what would a female President do to a sharia driven country, Iran, if she gave them the, "Hell, if I'm gonna cover MY hair, for you" response...
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 10:42AM
Dan Hirsch,
There's a difference between preachin' and preachin' to the saved. She could scratch her message on the chalkboard with her finger nails and I'd still read it.
She is compared favourably to Reagan (an opinion I share) who DID have the smooth delivery. I'm just saying I think it would help.
Controse| 6.1.11 @ 12:30PM
I agree. I bet if she runs she will get some coaching and once it becomes known the LSM will report it non-stop for three days.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 1:24PM
Better to know what they will be spweing ahead of time. :)
Tenn Slim| 6.1.11 @ 9:56AM
ABSOLUTELY!!!
Semper FI
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 9:47AM
Big E,
My perspective may be so far to the right that I just cannot see any of the current candidates losing to Obama, including Palin.
You make a valid point that Obama would make the issue Palin (or any other candidate for that matter), instead of his record, but what is there to make an issue of? She resigned the governorship? She lost with McCain? She's just a reality show actor?
Is there a single candidate for whom the "middle" voter would waffle between that candidate and Obama? Is there any voter who is likely to be persuaded to vote for one or the other by a little campaign rhetoric? Perhaps I am wrong, but I think this election will be even more polarized than the last.
This is not to say that the middle won't swing according to the candidates messages which is why, regardless of the nominee, the message needs to stay on Obama. It won't be pretty. Your hypothetical question as to whether Palin will give him the cover he needs is valid, and valid for every candidate. The MSM did a fine job of "Quayl-ing" Palin. It seems she is out to undo the damage. If she is successful - and look at the buzz, today - she will be formidable. If not, her support will still be extremely valuable to another candidate.
I wish her the best in her battles with the MSM.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 11:25AM
". . . but what is there to make an issue of? She resigned the governorship? She lost with McCain? She's just a reality show actor?"
The mere fact that she exists becomes his issue. Remember, in 2008, 53% of the voters voted for someone with absolutely no credentials, and absolutely no substance. That's a majority of the electorate who were utterly clueless about what the issues were. They don't NEED a reason to not like/not vote for someone, they're simply doing what they think is "cool." People who base their votes on what looks "cool" to their friends are not going to vote for someone so many of their friends so passionately hate, and that brings up another issue with Sarah Palin, which is . . .
Right now, Obama's left wing kook base is pretty down and demoralized. Obama hasn't done for them what they wanted him to do - close Gitmo, end enhanced inerrogation, sign on to cap-and-trade, repeal the Patriot Act, repeal the Bush tax cuts, etc. They're disappointed in him. They're not going to go to the polls to vote Republican, but they're not highly motivated to go for Obama either - i.e. - a lot them will stay home. I can think of nothing that would be more effective in motivating them to crawl over broken glass on their hands and knees to get to a polling place than a Sarah Palin candidacy.
Now obviously, her candidacy would energize the conservative base, but the ugly reality is that there are a lot of so-called Republicans who would rather see four more years of Obama (who has pretty much kept GWB's policies in place in a lot of areas) than see a fire-breathing conservative replace him. Like it or not, that's the way it is. The Ruling Class tends to protect itself regardless of party. Sarah Palin is not of the Ruling Class, so the Ruling Class Republicans will NOT support her. They may not vote for Obama, but they may stay home rather than vote for someone who's not like them.
So here's a second set of questions she (and us if she runs) needs to be asking: can she take enough votes away from Obama in the middle to make up for the ones she's going to generate for him on the left? And, can she make up enough votes from her conservative base to make up for the ones she's going to lose from the Ruling Class Republicans?
Don't misunderstand me, I LOVE Sarah Palin, and like so many others on this site, I see a lot of Reagan in her, and that's a good thing (though there are not as many parallels between 2012 and 1980 as some want to claim). I'm not saying Sarah Palin shouldn't run. I'm saying that before she gets in, she needs to make sure that she can overcome certain disadvantages that she has which other candidates do not have; and we voters need make sure of those same things.
My suspicion is that part of the motivation for her current bus tour is to answer these very questions (which if true, speaks VERY well of her as potential future President, by the way).
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 12:22PM
Big E,
I can't really disagree with anything you say. Framing the question as you do, your math is spot on. I take some issue when you say:
"the ugly reality is that there are a lot of so-called Republicans who would rather see four more years of Obama (who has pretty much kept GWB's policies in place in a lot of areas) than see a fire-breathing conservative replace him"
God, I hope you are wrong. I have two reasons to think you are (1) 93 freshman congressmen (34 newbies to politics) (2) the Dems are on the run and even the most craven RINO wants the White House.
But lets put the shoe on the other foot. Suppose Olympia Snowe got the nomination. Would the Dems vote for her over Obama? Would the middle? Would the right be excited? I think we would lose with the leftmost Rino. This is what the conservatives have been saying for years. I think it true.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 1:34PM
A less than solid thrid candidate splitting the vote is a dangerous win situation favoring Obummer.
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 4:27PM
SpiralArchitect,
On the other hand, Ralph Nader is thinking of running. Perhaps we can pass the hat for him.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 1:35PM
I'm not advocating that we run a RINO - dear God haven't we had enough of them? But the reality is that Sarah Palin is an EXTREMELY polarizing figure. A substantial sector of the "electorate" has already made up their mind about her in the negative, and not because of anything she's said or done.
Think about what I wrote above about people voting based what they think is "cool." Those people are wholly and completely ignorant of policy, and are that way by choice. So many people in this country, both liberals and conservatives, have become so jaded by politics and politicians and the web of lies so many of them spin that have chosen to tune out politics. They have consciously chosen ignorance as their political philosophy, and CANNOT be educated. Those people are not necessarily certain to vote Obama - they're unemployed and paying $4.00 a gallon for gas, too - his "coolness" factor is waning with them. But they're NOT going to vote for Sarah Palin, and because they're not even listening, there is nothing she can do to change their minds.
As for my comment about Ruling Class Republicans staying home, I hope I'm wrong about that, too. But I have been shocked at the number of people I know who are generally well informed, and who claim to be life-long Republicans, who hint that they'll stay at home rather than vote for Sara Palin or any other candidate they associate with the "Tea Party." Those people, I'm sure, CAN be persuaded to change their minds because they DO pay attention, but it shows the sort of up-hill climb Gov. Palin faces.
Again, I'm not saying she shouldn't run, but she's either going to have to reach those who have their fingers stuck in their ears so they can't her anything, are she's going to have to jazz up enough folks who are paying attention to overcome the weight of those who aren't. And she's going to have to do it in the face of a left-wing base which will be seriously energized by their hatred of her and everything she stands for the moment she announces her candidacy.
And make no mistake about it, it is pure, raw, unvarnished, hatred. These people hate her, they hate you, they hate me, they hate everyone who stands up for what is good and right about this country and its people. Just take a look at some of the troll comments to this article above and compare them to the other articles today - or any other day for that matter. To those people, Sarah Palin symbolizes everything and everyone they hate and long to destroy.
Seek| 6.1.11 @ 6:15PM
Most liberals don't hate Palin. They just find her another example of the dumbing down of America -- a waste of time.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 6:56PM
From my experience, most modern-day liberals hate anyone who does not share their point of view. In fact, hated and anger appears to be their primary emotion. One or the other is their response to everything. Disagree with their position? They immediately start labeling you with the most dreadful, dehumanizing, insults imaginable. So, based upon their actions, yes, I would say they hate Sarah Palin, just as I would say that based upon their actions, they hate anyone who is not like them. Make no mistake about it, modern-day liberals are the most closed-minded, bigoted, angry, and hate-filled people in the country today.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:59AM
It doesn't matter WHO gets the GOP nod, that person will suddenly become the very symbol of evil to the fossil media and the kool aid swilling ObamaNazis. Remember what happened to "reach across the aisle" McCain?
We need to stop worrying about what the uber-libs and the lamestream media will say: just assume they act like complete assholes no matter what, and plan accordingly
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 12:29PM
SonOfSam,
No doubt!
The good think is that, while everyone has a favourite and good reasons for it, anyone with a real shot at the nomination is broadly acceptable. It puts the MSM in a quandry. They did everything but pick "mavericky" McCain. They don't have anyone to pick this time.
Redstateboy| 6.1.11 @ 8:36AM
in my opinion.. Liber-uls hate her because she is genuinely loved and admired by common American people and Liber-uls? Particularly the effete condescending elite Liber-uls; loath the common masses.
Melvin| 6.1.11 @ 8:46AM
Also remember people, Country Club Blue Blood Progressive Republicans, and the Socialist Democrat controlled media also scathed Ronald Reagan every chance they got.
This is why Reagan is still reviled by Progressive Republicans.
The RNC and Republican Blue Blood Elites are groveling at the Gov. of NJ feet, begging him to become a candidate for the 2012 Elections.
The more I see and hear Sarah Palin, the more I see, she is the colon cleanser that the political process in Washington D.C. needs.
But my common sense still yearns for Herman Cain.
Tenn Slim| 6.1.11 @ 9:54AM
A cooperation of Sarah, Herman and the Tea Party grass roots folks = success.
end
Semper Fi
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 10:59AM
hell YES!!!!!!
dammit, why didn't I think of that?
Slim, you the man!
2Anglico| 6.1.11 @ 9:15AM
Let's see, Obamacare, Romneycare or Sarahcare, which would you choose to live under? And Sarah does not need a teleprompter, her beliefs are in her cells!
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 9:21AM
Palin has no organization whatsoever. She has not layed the organizational groundwork necessary to run an effective campaign. Her "bus tour" is basically a testing ground for her family to see if they are up for a run.
All this does not take away from the fact that she doesn't have the chop to become president. I say go ahead announce Sarah. Two weeks on the campaign trail with daily soundbites will be the final nail on her aspirations to run.
I've changed my mind on Rick Perry. I believe he should run because he has the cutthroat instinct to go after obama in addition to already having the organization in place. And a good one at that.
jppc| 6.1.11 @ 9:29AM
Perry has some interesting aspects to him, I don't dislike him but you underestimate Palin, which is something she has continually used to her advantage and will no doubt continue to do so.
One of the best strategies in war or politics (same thing?) is to have your enemy underestimate you and to mis-direct them. Palin is quite good at this.
Steve A| 6.1.11 @ 9:32AM
Gee, I don't know Bob. Seems to me that the Tea Party support would go a long way towards solving the orginaziational groundwork problem.
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 9:51AM
Steve, being a tea-party supporter, I believe you overestimate the tea party's support of Sarah.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 11:02AM
Bob, the average tea party member would lay down in front of a truck to get a real patriot conservative elected. We're DONE with Cream o' Wheat moderates whose only role seems to be as punching bags for the uber-libs
Steve A| 6.1.11 @ 11:53AM
Bob, Perhaps you need to brush up on current events. Tea Party would be just fine with Sara.
Just a FYI. I think Hillary had the best "organization" known to man in 08' & how did that work out for her?
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 2:03PM
Obummer had to have somehting on her. She dropped out - here today gone overnight.
That was always a puzzeling Houdini she pulled.
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 2:57PM
With all due respect, I'll rely on the dozen of stories I've read that back up my assertion.
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 11:04AM
yes, she's not doing things the way the typical GOP candidate would do it. So Bob, have you never heard about innovation being the thing that changes the course of history? Victorious commanders win battles and wars because they try things that others don't even dream of, because THEY are still fighting battles from 20 years ago.
Back to yer rocking chair, grampapa
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 3:02PM
Heh, Heh. Well, I'm just a few years away from the rocking chair but will take that as a compliment on my apparent beyond-my-years wisdom...
...there's nothing innovative about Sarah , err, the conquer. Man, so this is what a cult-of-personality looks like in it's infant stage.
Nessus| 6.1.11 @ 9:22AM
Sad to say but I'm afraid the 2012 election basically comes down to this: race/ethnicity/culture.
Hussein bin Obama (aka, the Magic Moooslim) has a low approval rating among white, registered voters (around 34%). He needs non-white voters.
Pertinent point: White, registered voters make up about 75% of the electorate.
The key to GOP victory is to motivate the vast white majority of the country (and to stop/reduce mass immigration, which will make native born white Americans the minority before long) to come out and vote.
The GOP must nominate someone who will excite the white majority otherwise, the Dems and Barry will win. Palin has the potential but it still remains to be seem if she can do it. What she does have more than 99% of other political figures is.........guts, courage, fortitude. Do you think a gal who can shoot, hunt, fish, who worked her way up from PTA president to mayor to governor to VP candidate lacks fortitude?
She puts most male politicians to shame, plus she does it in high heels too!
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 9:26AM
BIG QUESTION: IF NOMINATED, IF SHE WINS THE ELECTION WILL SHE STAY IN OFFICE MORE THAN TWO YEARS?
jppc| 6.1.11 @ 9:31AM
Boy that's clever. Sort of like Barry stayed in his Senate seat and showed up for work everyday, eh? Barry was a junior Senator for two years before devoting full time to doing what he does best - the campaign hustle.
Dan Hirsch| 6.1.11 @ 9:37AM
Barry worked real hard, he voted "Present" a lot to show how hardworking and decisive he really is...
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.1.11 @ 10:38AM
Dan,
he was simply hiding.
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 3:34PM
And he served 3 terms,18 years, not two and out
Drunken Sailor| 6.1.11 @ 4:08PM
Served 18 years? Doing what? Even if you count is terms in the Illinois senate to the beginning his presidency you only come up with 12.
Is this that new math, like 57 states?
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 4:58PM
Had some trouble with math in elementary school? Or are you just an idiot?
He served three terms in the ILLINOIS senate - from 1997 to 2004. In 2004, he was elected to the US Senate for the first, and thus far, only time.
So, considering that either, (a) you lack the intelligence do basic math, or (b) you lack a basic understanding of Federalism, or (c) you're a bold faced liar, then why should I lend any credence whatsoever to anything you say?
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 9:49AM
da monk,
Your CapsLock key is stuck (except for your name).
SonOfSam| 6.1.11 @ 11:06AM
that's because da monk was perusing the "goats gone wild" video section of his favorite website, and now he's got a bit of the "sticky keyboard" disease
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 3:38PM
SonOfSam: From your comment above I see you take after your name sake the 1960's sex pervert/murderer known as Son of Sam; your mind is attached to your crotch
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 3:35PM
I HAVE A LOUD VOICE AND LIKE TO BE HEARD. satisfied?
Mama Monk| 6.1.11 @ 4:00PM
You'll have to excuse my little MonkeyMan. He passes wind from both ends.
He's inflicted with "Breath of Ass".
da monk| 6.1.11 @ 11:19PM
Mama Monk: You are no lady!
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 7:55PM
You know, people will strain their ears and shush their friends to hear what someone else is whispering across the room. But they'll happily tune out the bozo blathering on loudly at the bar.
George S| 6.1.11 @ 12:00PM
Even bigger question: does she have best friends that attempted to kill a nine-year old boy with explosives planted with the intention of killing a federal judge?
Tenn Slim| 6.1.11 @ 9:51AM
While Palin espouses traditional values she is not taking a traditional path to the presidency. The question is whether she can carve out her own path to electoral success.
My opine = YES a resounding YES.
Semper Fi
davelnaf| 6.1.11 @ 9:52AM
I agree with most of the posts that Palin is dealing pay-back to the MSM for the way it treated her in ’08…and since. And I have to admit I’m enjoying it, too.
Dustoff| 6.1.11 @ 9:52AM
Well everyone said over & over how "smart" O-dumber was.
Take a look around you and tell me that again.
I'll take lady governor please.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 2:09PM
I'll take FogHornLegHorn over Obummer.
apnep| 6.1.11 @ 10:23AM
I think Sarah IS going to run and I hope she does. She has more balls than any other candidate out there. She hasn't gone off to hide in a corner after everything that's been thrown her way and she's the ONLY one besides Bibi who has stuck it to Obama. She's going to take him and all the old time GOPers for a ride. Palin has more support than people are willing to admit and if she runs, she'll have my vote. Common sense beats ivy league everytime.
LMajito| 6.1.11 @ 11:06AM
i like Sarah and have been a fan of hers from way back on the Alaska and pre-McCain days...the fact that she draws a crowd whenever she goes (without first announcing it for weeks) tells me she's more popular that many think...i don't listen to talking heads specially when the 'she's not that smart' comments come out...what have the political insiders given us for the last half a decade? slow death of the us...this lady represents a step towards restoring the all the virtues that made america the envy of the world (and i don't mean the greed merchants that just want to such the wealth to send it someplace else)...if she's on the ballot, she's got my wife, two brothers, their wifes, their inlaws votes...and we're hispanic and war veterans...why should she announce it now? still over 12 months away...only political lightweights need ca$H so they can buy the elections...she don't need money all those hundred of millions for ads...she's got her stuff already in place...i say wait until the late summer of 12 and let the folks know...not enough time for her enemies to gear up...we the supporters will be there at the polls and all of your imbeciles the believe she can't win, will have to revisit your opinions while she's sworn in in the chill morning of January 2013...
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.1.11 @ 5:14PM
Majito,
well spoken.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 7:58PM
If she wins you'll have to change your name to ProphetMajito.
You may well have hit on EXACTLY what she's doing.
Naturalborn Texican| 6.1.11 @ 11:11AM
Sarah is real. What you see is authentic. She doesn't put on airs, or talk down to people.
She's sharp and smart and her "savvy" quotient grows every minute. Yeah, she has a squeaky voice when she has to talk loudly. Big deal, so what. Her voice is not what's gonna get this great country back on track as a republic.
And I love the way she's jerking around the media by not giving them an agenda for her bus tour! Hilarious!!!!! Their childish whining is entertaining to say the least
Sarah is genuine. What you see is what she is. And that's so very much more than I can say about 98% of most of the politicians out there at this point.
JP| 6.1.11 @ 11:21AM
But can she find Russia on a map?
Drunken Sailor| 6.1.11 @ 11:31AM
Can you find your ass with both hands?
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 12:26PM
And can she find all 57 States?
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 12:34PM
The Big E,
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 12:34PM
<big grin>
Teaghan| 6.1.11 @ 1:19PM
I do wish she had gotten or will get some speech and voice lessons. I sometimes cringe when she gets going during a speech and her voice gets shrill. If she runs, she will be up against the smooth talkin' teleprompter in chief and hate him or love him, he is smooth when spewing his BS
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 2:11PM
Amazingly he has spwewed BS for a few years as POTUS. It will not be a benefit for Obummer.
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 3:16PM
Part of what she is is a partial-term governor. One who quit.
Patriots who quit? ...by the way, she has a history of quitting. Let's not forget these facts when discussing the greatness of Sarah.
John Navratil| 6.1.11 @ 4:21PM
Bob Grant,
I'll take Palin at here word when she says that the lawsuits were costing her real money (the state wouldn't defend against the suits alleging abuse of office) and was occupying all her time and depriving the state of a governor. Do you have a more truthful explanation?
Perhaps you can fill us in on her history of quitting, as well. I am unaware.
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 4:31PM
She quit her position on the oil and gas commission.
Brian72| 6.1.11 @ 5:22PM
Yes she did. She blew the whistle on a fellow commissioner who just also happened to be the Chairman of the AK GOP. She went to the State's Attorney General with the problem, he did nothing.
She went to the Governor, he did nothing.
So she decided to go public with it herself and resigned her appointed position.
Everyone at the time was saying "what a promising career she had in state politics, but now it's all over for her. She did the right thing, but paid a heavy price for it, throwing away any chance for a future in the AK GOP. Too bad, so sad."
Then she knocked off said Governor in the primary, and beat a former Governor Democrat in the general.
Given this context to her resignation from the commission, do you still think it was a bad move?
I do not. She did the right thing, took a huge chance to what she knew was right for the State, and the people rewarded her with the Governorship.
I would say her "history of quitting" is actually something she can be proud of, because she did the hard thing for the right reasons. She put service over self. Principle over pride.
Think about that for a minute.
We need this kind of character in DC.
As President, she would not have to resign, she would have the resources at her disposal to fight, and fight she would.
TrueBlue| 6.1.11 @ 5:39PM
"I'm forced to withhold information from Alaskans, and that goes against what I believe in as a public servant."
Read more: http://www.adn.com/2004/01/16/.....z1O3x5GWYs
Kind of answers that question doesn't it? Gotta love the half stories people bring up.
LiveFreeOrDie| 6.1.11 @ 5:49PM
Oh good answer. The commission was not a lifetime post, genius. I notice you didn't try to defend you position that Palin "quit" as Governor. When scumbags filed 100 frivolous lawsuits, taking advantage of a loophole in Alaska law she was forced to resign, same as anyone in her shoes. Criticizing Palin's resignation, if to be taken seriously, is plain ignorance. Usually that criticism is just repeating propaganda talking points from the left which is willfully ignorant. Take your pick.
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 6:39PM
I will continue to defend my "Sarah quit Alaska AND the oil commission". I proudly stand by it. You make it sound like these issues are unique to Sarah, and Sarah only. I say they've happened to other politicians who were able to overcome them without the fanfare of Sarah.
Brian72| 6.1.11 @ 10:28PM
You are deliberately ignoring all context, so that you don't have to think about it.
What she did was the right thing, even at great cost and risk to her own future.
That is character.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 8:11PM
Bob Grant,
In fairness, whether somebody quitting a position is a flaw that should be held against them or something which should be overlooked - or for that matter - something which should be viewed as a credit to their character, depends on two things:
1. Why did they quit when they did?
2. What were their alternatives?
Unless the answers to those questions are known, it simply is not fair to tar someone for having quit a position. Quitting may be EXACTLY what they should have done. In the case of Sarah Palin, from I've read about her reasons for quitting her position on the oil commission, it sounds like she did the right thing. I'm not so sure about her resignation from the governorship. I don't doubt she resigned for the exact reasons she says she resigned. I'm just not sure she didn't have better alternatives, but honestly, I don't know that I have sufficient facts to make that judgment. If she runs, it's a question she'll have to answer. If she answers it to the voters' satisfaction, it won't be a problem for her. If she doesn't, then maybe she shouldn't be President anyway.
Louis Tully| 6.1.11 @ 11:25AM
Luck be a Lady, Tonight!
Anthony| 6.1.11 @ 11:49AM
Sister Sarah is the left's worst nightmare because she is a tour de force, the likes of which have not been seen in decades.
She's not only smart, despite the LSM's Orwellian attempt to say otherwise, that has some RINOs with wobbley legs, she has enormous courage and personal strength.
She has taken on the left and has won each and every battle. The more they pile on with their absurd viciousness and foaming at the mouth vitriol, the more she ends up with her foot on their throats. She indeed plays with the left like the wily fox that she is, in so many way.
This woman is MAGNIFICENT. We need to stop being timid and controlled by the LSM and get behind this woman. Stop with all the reasons why she can't win, and start believing all the reasons why she can!!!
She will lead, as no other R will or can. She will obliterate Obozo, I promise !!!!
Teaghan| 6.1.11 @ 1:21PM
I watched some of MSNBC this morning with the turncoat Joe Scarborough. They are OBSESSESED with her. They can't quit talking about her and they are t he tame ones! Just turn on the evening shows! Good Lord! The folks are about to come unglued~
Seek| 6.1.11 @ 6:19PM
What battles has she won lately? I can't think of one.
The Big E| 6.1.11 @ 7:02PM
Well, let's see here, for the last three years the MSM have going full out to utterly and completely destroy her political career, to remove her entirely from the national scene and (in their view) drive her back to worthless shithole in Alaska she slunk out of. And yet her influence over the national debate has only grown, and now, she's touring the country on a bus and people all over are talking about her either running for President herself, or being the kingmaker who will make the next President.
Yep. I'd call that a battle won.
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.1.11 @ 11:57AM
Tony Bennett did very well with this, so did Frank.
(Prenthesis must be sung in my baritone.)
I've got the world on a string, sittin' on a rainbow.
Got the string around my finger.
What a world, what a life - I'm in love. (with Sarah’s Candidacy)
I got a song that I sing, I can make the rain go
Anytime I move my finger.
Lucky me, can't you see I'm in love. (with Sarah’s Candidacy)
Life is a beautiful thing as long as I hold the string.
I'd be a silly so-and-so if I should ever let it go.
I've got the world on a string, sitting on a rainbow
Got the string around my finger.
What a world, what a life - I'm in love. (with Sarah’s Candidacy)
Life is a beautiful thing as long as I hold the string
I'd be a silly so-and-so if I should ever let it go.
I've got the world on a string, sitting on a rainbow.
Got the string around my finger.
What a world! Man, this is the life.
Hey, now! I'm so in love. (with Sarah’s Candidacy)
Randy Shackleford| 6.1.11 @ 12:15PM
It is beyond me how anyone could support such a self centered, narcissistic, egomaniacal media whore such as Palin. She has not a shred of integrity and is an international embarrassment for the US. I find it appalling that the political culture in this country has taken such a serious nosedive that a person that lacks even the most basic, rudimentary understanding of our constitution could present herself as a champion and defender of democracy when it is so blatantly obvious that she is simply in this game to enrich herself and feed her enormous ego. How transparent does she have to be? Palin will never hold elected political office again, of that you can be sure. And she certainly is not going to run for president, she is far too much of a coward to take on that kind of responsibility. Why, she would actually have to answer questions from real journalists, or heaven forbid, actual Americans who just may disagree with her! Horrors!
Drunken Sailor| 6.1.11 @ 12:30PM
"It is beyond me how anyone could support such a self centered, narcissistic, egomaniacal media whore"
Sounds like a perfect description of Obama to me just change it to "egomaniacal world media whore"
Troll
simon templar| 6.1.11 @ 2:07PM
DS, great post! It really is strange how much his paragraph sounded exactly like his messiah. You could have swapped out the word Palin for Obama and it would have not skipped a beat. Actually, I was reading the posts quickly, scrolling down, and thought at first, it was a conservative railing about Bam Bam. I am really beginning to think that liberalism as a mental disorder contains the mental illness of projection. It is really wierd how often you come across this.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 2:18PM
Ditto
Butch | 6.1.11 @ 4:13PM
Amen. If you apologize for America, you pick up approval of the "international community." As to the ego . . . "I, me, my, I gave the order, . . . etc. And while I don't believe she doesn't understand the constitution, I would rather have somebody who doesn't than someone who does, and yet blatantly violates it. Also, if Palin has been publicly diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder by a credentialed psychiatrist, as has our dear leader, I am not aware of it. As for the nosedive in political culture: "Maybe they want a moat! Maybe they want alligators in the moat!" Thanks a lot, Mr. President of all the people.
Take a look at yourself, Mr. Shackleford.
Teaghan| 6.1.11 @ 1:22PM
Hey Randy, you best get your napkin and fork because you will undoubtedly eat your big fat words.
simon templar| 6.1.11 @ 1:59PM
Projecting again?
Randy Shackleford| 6.1.11 @ 12:22PM
And, she actually believes in witches! WITCHES! For christs sake! And that is who you want to give nuclear weapons to? Jesus christ, can you imagine what she would do with something like that?
btims| 6.1.11 @ 12:42PM
We don't believe in you or more accurately, we don't believe anyone ADULT could be so wrong-headed as you. :-)
Steve A| 6.1.11 @ 1:13PM
Randy, Let's take a look at your criticisms of Sara & contrast vs. your hero Barak, shall we?
1. self centered: " We are the ones that we have been waiting for."
2: narcissistic: Has written 2 books, both about himself.
3: egomaniac: see above
4: integrity: If Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, Ayres are your pals, um, you have a problem.
5: international embarrassment: Has any President apologized more or bowed to more thugs & dictators than this guy?
6: lacks a fundamental understanding of the constitution: He calls it a "charter of negative rights."
Oh, as an added bonus, he did campaign in "all 57 states" so I guess that makes up for alot.....
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 2:20PM
Don't be naive, Obummer carried 5 of those 7 states. How else you think he won?
DRed| 6.1.11 @ 5:39PM
Hi Steve,
1) What's the deal with conservatives and 'we are the ones we've been waiting for'? How is that self centered? Self centered would be 'I am the one you've been waiting for', no?
2) Sarah Palin has written two books. Both of them were about herself.
Ore Gone| 6.1.11 @ 1:31PM
Make me laugh! You are just being sarcastic towards the MSM. You are right? The other option is that you are a complete loon.
Steve A| 6.1.11 @ 1:38PM
Not knowing any of the facts, it is my opinion that Randy Shackleford, non believer in witches, has acted stupidly, much like the Cambridge police.
Sincerely, Barak
simon templar| 6.1.11 @ 1:53PM
Randy..you should talk! When you stop believing in unicorns, rainbow magic, and keynesian economics, she will stop believing in witches. I think you are getting your lib talking propaganda mixed up. The 'witch' thing was the other conservative woman running in the last election. Don't use the name of Jesus of Nazareth as a explicative and swear word.
Michael L. Hauschild| 6.1.11 @ 8:01PM
Witches exist; I have firsthand experience with this. One in particular was summoned into this plane of existence by the words “I Do.”
rdman| 6.1.11 @ 3:55PM
Randy is a hysterical, neurotic EUNUCH!
Ore Gone| 6.1.11 @ 1:17PM
LOL! Look at the troll action you get just mentioning her name. The DNC Soros funded internet warriors are working their fingers today. She is a definite lightning rod and could easily turn this country around because she is a doer and not a talker like the incumbent. She bases her decisions on what is good for the country not whether it is going to keep her Party in power. It is all about the Party with the Political machines in power and screw the country and its citizens.
simon templar| 6.1.11 @ 1:57PM
Great observation, OG! Just put her name in a headline and they come running, crawling, and struting like Obama zombies in the hundreds. Pathetic. Predictable.
SpiralArchitect| 6.1.11 @ 2:21PM
That's Ozombos BTW.
btims| 6.1.11 @ 2:23PM
Personalities aside, 2012 will come down to the economic condition of the country. As it stands today, Barry Soetoro will have a hard time getting re-elected because he took a recession and make it worse. Compare the unemployment rate, the inflation rate, the price of a gallon of gasoline today to when Moooslim Boy was elected. They have all worsened. Unless the economy improves significantly (which is possible but not probable), any competent republican will defeat Ol' Big Ears.
e cowan| 6.1.11 @ 2:43PM
"Assuming Palin decides to take a run at the White House, she will undoubtedly do so with the knowledge that she will encounter enormous barriers along that path led by a liberal media (with a little help from some condescending conservatives)"
According to John Harwood, pundit for NBC (Evening News Sunday 5-29-11) Palin as ZERO chance of being elected.
George Will ( an influential RINO) said:
‘Should we give this person nuclear weapons?’ And the answer [in Palin's case], answers itself.”
Boy, enormous barriers is right!
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 3:09PM
Look it. I have a problem with "conservative" pundits cutting the legs out from under potential candidates, even with those with whom I disagree. This is doubly specious because I rarely, if ever, hear Mr. Will doing the same to democratic candidates.
I whole heartily agree with his statement that there ARE NO UNDECIDEDS regarding Sarah Palin. Everyone has an opinion of her and this will not change in a year and a half. Her numbers are simply not good. Don't hate the messenger.
Brian72| 6.1.11 @ 5:26PM
January 20, 2009 everyone had an opinion of Barack Obama. His approval rating was 68 percent.
But hey, public opinion never changes, does it?
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 6:52PM
And what has she done - of substance - to turn those numbers around? ...uh, no, riding the back of a Harley will not cut it.
Brian72| 6.1.11 @ 10:31PM
An innovative, inspiring campaign for the nomination that brings her a victory in the Iowa Caucuses would be a good way to start doing that.
Steve A| 6.2.11 @ 9:16AM
Gee Bob, what deep thinking. Just take a poll today & skip the election as nothing ever changes. Seriously, this is your deep thought of the day?
simon templar| 6.1.11 @ 5:56PM
Bob, have you ever thought that maybe she does not want the job? One thing you can be sure of we will still be hearing the vitrol, the rants, and the attacks on her and YOUR values long after she has indicated she is not interested in office and goes about with her life and other interests. Is it ok if she has other interest or should we ask the liberals if it is ok?
Kingofthenet| 6.1.11 @ 3:09PM
As a Democrat I fear Sarah the MOST, if she teams up with Michelle Bachman, I will CRY like I never have before. I might even pee a little.
simon templar| 6.1.11 @ 5:51PM
Me thinks you are more afraid of her if she does not run for another political office. That is when you are really going to piss your pants. You will never get rid of her and you will continue to keep her relevant with your Palin Derangement rants.
Kingofthenet| 6.1.11 @ 6:17PM
I would be 'shakin in my boots' if that Dynamic Duo got together, Can you imagine the Brain-trust, it would be BIGGER than when Beavis met Butthead!
simon templar| 6.1.11 @ 8:36PM
Yeah, I know you can not say with certitude whether you actually fear her or not....but you will continue with the lame, deranged, and very old snarky remarks...troll.
somnolence| 6.1.11 @ 5:21PM
I'll support Sarah Palin tirelessly if she is the nominee. I will, however, not support JUST ANYONE she endorses if she isn't the nominee. Those in that category would be Romney, Gingrich, Christie, Giuliani, Pawlenty, Trump, Huntsman.
somnolence| 6.1.11 @ 5:26PM
My list should also have included Ron Paul, for those "special" followers who were wondering.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.1.11 @ 5:28PM
Well,
I've read all the comments. Good points, guys.
heh...whacky points too from the Soros trolls.
Sarah makes me smile.
Sarah's kids make me smile....and Todd makes me smile.
I pray earnestly that she runs.
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 6:44PM
Sarah makes me smile.
Sarah's kids make me smile....and Todd makes me smile.
I pray earnestly that she runs.....I completely agree.
God bless the Palins, however, I pray earnestly that she does not run.
somnolence| 6.1.11 @ 7:25PM
BTW has anyone ever inquired about Barack Obama's e-mails? In other words why the focus on Palin and not Obama? Or others? Her detractors really aren't even fooling themselves.
voted against carter| 6.1.11 @ 8:18PM
Sarah Palin is the MOST FEARED conservative out there as far as the left is concerned.
JUST LOOK at how much the LIBRATARDS are going out of there way to trash her.
IF she was NOT a THREAT would They be saying anything??????
They KNOW Sarah Palin IS electable,…
AND IF she runs against barry in 2012,…
She WILL CRUSH him with indisputable numbers.
Rush is RIGHT about the establishment Republicans ALSO FEARING SARAH
All the "serious" (sarc) pundits feel this way too. WHY else would they go OUT of their way to trash her.
THEY ARE TERRIFIED OF SARAH.
they are all peeing in their pants at the thought of her running.
Remember,.. the MORE they say how easy she will be to beat or how stupid she is etc,..
one word.
TERRIFIED.
PCPSmoker| 6.1.11 @ 8:29PM
It is not just the LIberal Media. Washington DC conservatives (Will, Brooks, Frump, et al) are always trashing her and Michelle Bachmann.
Go Sarah, Go!
Bob Grant| 6.1.11 @ 8:36PM
Suggestion: Go to National Review and watch the O'reilly interview with Krauthammer. He correctly states Sarah hasn't schooled herself properly, especially on foreign policy, to be a qualified candidate.
Regardless of whether he's part of the elite, he speaks the truth on this issue. Facts are sometimes difficult to swallow.
Brian72| 6.1.11 @ 10:33PM
Krauthammer nor you know what she has been doing when she is not public.
You have no idea.
Bob Grant| 6.2.11 @ 9:18AM
Yes Brian. A brilliant strategy. Keeping knowledge close to your vest. Don't demonstrate to potential voters your depth of knowledge of issues.
somnolence| 6.1.11 @ 10:02PM
"SURE" she hasn't. She's only been to India and Israel among other countries in the last year, meeting with leaders and having discussions. I could say the same thing about Pawlenty or Romney, about needing more experience in foreign policy, or candidate Obama in 2008. Krauthammer's argument, as usual, is foolish and disingenuous, and should be cast into the oblivion from which it was generated. Krauthammer worked for Walter Mondale, for goodness sakes. Sorry if I don't readily accept him as a reliable counsel or forecaster for anything.
dee see| 6.1.11 @ 10:11PM
Perhaps we can keep Palin, but the
Rockefeller biz-nihilist and EUGENICS
capstone creations (Trump) really should
be put out.
Let them start their own party.
We are REPUBLIC-CANS! ----not franchise
slum sellouts.
Replica Handabags&wallet; | 6.1.11 @ 11:25PM
Thanks for taking this opportunity to discuss this, I feel fervently about this and I like learning about this subject.
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da monk| 6.1.11 @ 11:33PM
Palin Pals: Can any of you cite any speech, talk, twitter, e-mail, Face book item when Ms. Palin presents her proposed solutions in detail to the: Economy, domestic and international, un-employment, energy, medi-care and medi-aid, international civic unrest, education, transportation, etc. In short, what is her platform if she chooses to run? No short answers allowed.
Bob Grant| 6.2.11 @ 9:30AM
A rhetorical answer as you know because they can't. Just watch various interviews she's given, namely in India where she struggles to find answers to basic policy questions.
I'll give her credit, you can tell she's read the requisite "must read" books for conservatives: Liberty and Tyranny; Thomas Sowell primers; Wealth and Poverty; maybe Smith; maybe Friedman; maybe Hayak; etc., but watch her struggle to expand on policy questions. No, she doesn't necessarily have to sound "wonkish" but she at least should not sound like she's answering on they fly; like she just learned the material the week before.
Suggestion to Sarah: cheerlead for conservative candidates in 2012 and run in 2016 as a more serious, better prepared candidate.
NWBill| 6.2.11 @ 1:32AM
... and her supporters are all laughing uproariously! It's like watching Barney Fife try to actually do his job by loading the gun he carries with the one bullet he keeps in his pocket! Wile-E-Coyote isn't this funny!!!!
I bet Sarah and Todd share lots of snickers before drifting off to sleep each night these days.
dee see| 6.2.11 @ 6:22AM
To the above response to dee see's first:
Their comment says it all---
'No mention of the R C TREASON op'?
----WHY would she? --WHY would ANY sane
person"
---Expose the sellouts with their own words.
Works every time.
REMEMBERING all the good soldiers and
innocent civilians ---and MILLIONS of KOREANS
who died in the KOREAN WAR, and are suffering
and dying even now in the RC 'EUGENICS very friendly' DRK (NK).
HUAC meets NUREMBERG 2012 ---as ever.
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 8:59AM
255+ comments on a Human Event thread and counting-unheard of. Only if it's about Gov. Palin. So tell me again why if she is so insignificant, why so many here to denigrate her?
wodiej| 6.2.11 @ 9:01AM
My last comment meant to say American Spectator.
somnolence| 6.2.11 @ 11:27AM
Obviously Bob Grant, you and I didn't see the same interviews on policy she gave in India. Get real or come up with something more substantial. If she runs she will get immediate attention, justifiably so, because she may make Romney or Gingrich look like fools. Those 2 had better hope she doesn't run.
dee see| 6.2.11 @ 11:56PM
"Nothing of substance is debated in front
of, let alone with, the public any longer..
NOTHING"
-ALAN WATT
Further, no one of substance is put before
them either.
"This is PURE mafia evil out in the open."
-ALEX JONES
SO it is.
HUAC meets NUREMBERG 2012
it is the ONLY way left__________
Credit Man| 6.3.11 @ 4:08PM
My favorite comment about Sarah is:
"She lives rent free in every liberal's brain."