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Smearing Mitch
The Center for Public Integrity displays all the integrity of the Huffington Post.
The Center for Public Integrity (CPI) recently issued a report accusing Governor Mitch Daniels, who once was President of North American operations for Eli Lilly, of illegally marketing medicines that caused thousands of people to get sick and die.
It’s a riveting story but it’s not true. Instead, the report, written by Joanne Kenen and Rochelle Sharpe, is full of misstatements, inaccuracies, and outright falsehoods. If the Center for Public Integrity had any integrity it would yank the piece, apologize to Governor Daniels, and start asking who pushed to release such a sleazy ad hominem assault.
Here’s the gist of the allegations:
In the decade that Daniels climbed the corporate ladder at Eli Lilly, the company was illegally marketing its leading osteoporosis drug, Evista, as well as its blockbuster antipsychotic, Zyprexa, putting tens of thousands of patients in harm’s way. Lilly pleaded guilty to two criminal misdemeanors, paid more than $2.7 billion in fines and damages, settled more than 32,000 personal injury claims — and copped to one of the largest state consumer protection cases involving a drug company in U.S. history, a review by iWatch News shows.
Eli Lilly engaged in illegal activity. But here’s the gist of its unlawful actions: Eli Lilly was accused of providing doctors with medical information that Zyprexa could be used to treat agitation in people diagnosed with dementia and sleep disorders in people with schizophrenia. The government calls the distribution of such material without FDA approval a “false claim.” A “false claim” is not a false statement. Rather, it’s clinical data or published studies that confirm the effectiveness of new uses for existing medicines.
In other words, if Eli Lilly shared medical studies demonstrating that using a drug prevents cancer, it would be breaking the law.
In fact, that’s what Lilly was fined $36 million for in 2005. The government had gone after it for telling doctors that Evista — originally approved to reduce bone loss — was also effective in preventing cancer in postmenopausal women. In 2007 the FDA approved Evista as a cancer preventive. During this time Medicare and Medicaid were paying for the off-label use of both Zyprexa and Evista.
Kenen and Sharpe also allege that under Daniels Lilly downplayed Zyprexa’s side effects of significant weight gain and increases in blood sugar that could cause diabetes. In fact, the federal judge presiding over Zyprexa litigation noted “the original 1996 Zyprexa label listed the relevant adverse events; in 2003 the FDA… required a hyperglycemia and diabetes warning; the American Diabetes Association and other groups in 2003… issued a consensus statement on antipsychotic and weight gain and diabetes… a Dear Doctor Letter went out in March 2004. “
Further, since 1999 the company has published hundreds of articles examining the association between Zyprexa, glucose levels, and obesity and including research intended to help predict weight gain. That’s in addition to scores of other papers written by others.
Still Kenen and Sharpe want to link Daniels to thousands of Zyprexa-caused injuries and deaths. To dramatize their case, the authors introduce us to Ellen Liversidge, who states: “Eli Lilly killed my only son.” Her son Rob, 39, died in 2002 after taking Zyprexa. “I think they are terrible. They hid the side effects of so many drugs.”
In fact, as Liversidge notes in another interview, her son died because “the intensive care unit team did not have his blood-sugar level checked for signs of hyperglycemia.”
Liversidge is a member and founder of two organizations with ties to Ann Blake Tracy, an advisor to the Scientology-backed Citizens Commission on Human Rights, and Dr. Peter Breggin, who over the years has claimed that treating mental illness with medicine is a form of abuse.
Breggin has been an “expert witness” in many of the lawsuits against Zyprexa.
And Breggin is also a featured blogger on the Huffington Post, whose founder, Arianna Huffington, is a CPI board member.
Huffington and Breggin share a particular animus against Eli Lilly and Daniels in particular.
Since 1998, Huffington has waged a war of words against Eli Lilly for promoting Prozac and Zyprexa. She alleged in 2002 that Daniels was behind an effort to protect vaccine makers from lawsuits from parents who claimed shots made by Lilly and others caused their children’s autism because they contained thimerosal. In 2005 she launched the Huffington Post and featured several anti-vaccine and pseudoscience fearmongers as bloggers, including Andrew Wakefield, Jenny McCarthy, and of course, Peter Breggin.
Did either Breggin or Huffington suggest or contribute to CPI’s report? The link between CPI and Huffington’s campaign against Mitch Daniels bears more scrutiny than the baseless claims that the Indiana governor presided over an orgy of criminal behavior.
About the Author
Robert M. Goldberg is vice president of the Center for Medicine in the Public Interest and founder of Hands Off My H ealth, a grass roots health care empowerment network. His is new book, Tabloid Medicine: How the Internet is Being Used To Hijack Medical Science For Fear and Profit, was published last month by Kaplan.
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jduvall2816| 5.18.11 @ 7:29AM
Well, thank you American Spectator for pointing this out.
Most of us who are fans of Mitch Daniels don't mind him being criticized, so long as those who criticize understand the issue they are taking up against the Governor.
Unfortunately I have found that many seem to base thier opinions on 'snap judgements' of policy decision they are not educated on nor have researched the Governors position on the issue or decision.
Daniel Haszard | 5.18.11 @ 7:51AM
I HATE Scientology got nothing to do with them cultist, I am instead a real victim of Eli Lilly greed.Got nothing personal against Mich either might even vote for him.
My Issue that is not going away until resolved with a proper compensation:
Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, a potential Republican presidential candidate credits his success in government to the business skills he learned as Eli Lilly Senior Vice President for Corporate Strategy and Policy.
The Eli Lilly *Viva Zyprexa" scam occurred 1996-2003 so Mitch Daniels was 4 years into the thick of it,reaped $21 million from Lilly stocks.
Eli Lilly's #1 cash cow Zyprexa drug sale $40 billion dollars so far,has a ten times greater risk of causing type 2 diabetes over the non-user of Zyprexa. So,here we have a conflict of interest that this same company also is a big profiteer of diabetes treatment.
FIVE at FIVE
The Zyprexa antipsychotic drug,whose side effects can include weight gain and diabetes, was sold for "children in foster care, people who have trouble sleeping, elderly in nursing homes."
Five at Five was the Zyprexa sales rep slogan, meaning 5mg dispensed at 5pm would keep patients quiet.
It's as addictive as tobacco,because withdrawal is accompanied by severe insomnia for 6 weeks.
-- Daniel Haszard Zyprexa Whistle-blower
Daniel Haszard | 5.18.11 @ 7:53AM
I was prescribed Zyprexa from 1996 until 2000.
In early 2000 I was shocked to have an A1C test result of 13.9 (normal is 4-6) I have no history of Diabetes in my family. In Dec 2005 I made first discovery of the Zyprexa Diabetes link
margee| 5.18.11 @ 8:11AM
Regardless of this issue, my biggest takeaway from this article--American Spectator is ALL IN for Mitch Daniels. As well as they're continued defense of the ever weak-spined John Boehner. For me, AS is now gone the way of the Weekly Standard. Both are trying to convince readers of the opinion of the magazine; as such, the articles become very biased and one-sided in nature. Sad...
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 8:39AM
You just determined this now?
The AmSpec cabal of contributers are so desperate to find a clean candidate lacking the clown qualitites the MSM loves to exploit, we are left with the Mitch Daniels of the world.
The creepy vanity comb-over and his work with Lilly will be his undoing. There is ZERO foundation for him to speak objectively about healthcare without throwing big pharma under the bus. He won;t, and his coffers are beholden to them.
His willingness to tell righty social zealots to zip it was refreshing, but not nearly enough to create a foundation for a real play for the mushy indy vote nationwide.
Next!
(Santorum calling McCain misinformed about torture is also an unforced error. What a week.)
Doctor Right| 5.18.11 @ 10:32AM
The fact that McCain was actually tortured by the Vietnamese does NOT mean he's right about water-boarding, or the value of the information gained from this procedure, which ISN'T torture.
McCain is a preening, posturing fool.
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 11:44AM
And Santorum is not?
His consideration that the G has a role in the bedrooms of consenting adults should be an immediate disqualifier, and now he is calling out an ex-POW and GOP nominee on a subject he has zero experience with?
His instincts are pretty bad, and loads him onto the clown pile with Newtie et al.
Just dumb, and his candidacy is DOA and a #2 would be a drag with him sacrificing purple states not gaining them.
Anybody who supports waterboarding needs to be put through it to determine if it's effective. This country is better than that, and seeing a purported devout Catholic even dabbling on the subject is unseemly at best and disturbing that he has an audience at all.
Dai Alanye | 5.18.11 @ 11:51AM
Canuckstani seems to be without a clue. Plenty of American interrogators have been subjected to waterboarding while training, and can testify as to its effectiveness.
McCain's claim that torture yields bad information is correct, of course, but it also yields good information. The key is to determine which is which. There's no doubt torture "works," as McCain's own experience should testify. It's no disparagement of his bravery to state that he broke under it, as did most Americans held prisoner, and as would any human of whatever stripe.
McCain is a victim of his own wishful thinking, and Santorum is absolutely correct.
Drunken Sailor| 5.18.11 @ 12:32PM
Then I guess thousands of military men and women that have gone through SERE training are wrong huh? Many of us have gone through it. And as this article says, if you believe in the Geneva convention, just remembe who doesn't follow it.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23220
Doctor Right| 5.18.11 @ 1:15PM
"Anybody who supports waterboarding needs to be put through it to determine if it's effective."
Sheer idiocy.
We know it's affective because we now know it helped us get Bin Laden.
Duh.
And Rick Santorum has NEVER said that consenting adults should be monitored in their bedrooms. That type of hysterical ranting is typical of the left.
McCain's status as a war hero does NOT make him immune to criticism. That's not how society works. And frankly, if John McCain had been water-boarded instead of beaten savagely and repeatedly, maybe he'd be able to lift his arms over his head today?
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 2:48PM
That's not the point.
We've had the detainees at Gitmo going on 10 years. The intel was obtained in August from OTHER sources and was acted on.
The situation in Afghan is getting worse, not better, so why has all of this valuable information gleaned from torturees not gone further? Simple: it doesn't exist.
The most intel we have had is likely from Pakistani ISI settling scores with contacts that were deemed non-critical and pandering to the governments need to stay relevant to the US.
That intel was bought with dollars, not water-soaked gags.
By paying lipservice to the Geneva conventions we only reinforce our reputation as dishonest brokers in the region. That's not my view, but the view of the natives on the ground. Not exactly high-road or hearts and minds stuff the writers here blather on about American righteousness etc.
The problem I have with Santorum is that he is usually wrong on pretty much everything and he chose to target another GOPer with real life experience on a subject that even the most ardent proponents agree is a minimal benefit to the intel game.
His choice of targets is ill-advised, panders to the whacko fringe and continues the narrative that the real GOP is a cabal of hacks and closed-minded freaks like Santorum et al.
Doctor Right| 5.18.11 @ 3:36PM
"The problem I have with Santorum is that he is usually wrong on pretty much everything"
Such as..???
"By paying lipservice to the Geneva conventions we only reinforce our reputation as dishonest brokers in the region. That's not my view, but the view of the natives on the ground."
We're not in Afghanistan or Pakistan to make friends; we're there to teach the natives a serious lesson. And if we have a serious President after 2012, they'll start listening.
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 6:35PM
You don't really believe that, do you?
I pity you.
Do you stand for anything that supports the American traditon of freedom from tyranny?
It appears not as you are willing to sacrifice principle for security. I believe we can have both.
Dai Alanye | 5.18.11 @ 11:44AM
Correct. We can admire McCain for his admirable qualities without considering him the wisest man in the world.
john dubose| 5.18.11 @ 8:16AM
OK. While Mitch Daniels was its CEO, Lilly made a technical mistake and had to pay a bunch of money to the people who were hurt. Would he still make a good president. Heck yes. And he still has the MOST important asset for getting elected. He carries himself like a president.
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 2:50PM
What does that mean?
Speedypete| 5.18.11 @ 8:39AM
He must be someone that is feared for this article to come out when there are so many political millionaires like Reid, Schumer, Biden and Obama that have never made a single private sector in decision in their lives. I would include Pelosi but her husband is the bread winner, she just brings home her personal Boeing 757 for 2 years, thank the voters it was only 2 years, and all the exemptions to businesses in her district so that don't have to pay for Obamacare. But let's focus on a balanced budget governor instead?
Joe| 5.18.11 @ 10:00AM
While Daniels was employed as W's budget director, a provision was added to page 474 of the Homeland Security Bill (at 2 in the morning) which said Eli Lilly could not be held liable for their wondeful vaccine preservative ethylmercury (arguably the most toxic form of mercury that exists). Mitch had nothing to do with this. So what that it was administered to newborns to protect them from a sexually transmitted disease.
Dai Alanye | 5.18.11 @ 11:55AM
Joe's technical ignorance is unparalleled. It has been proven beyond almost any doubt that the mercury-in-vaccine scare was false, and was in fact a scam by the researcher who first brought forth the claim of danger.
Joe| 5.18.11 @ 3:28PM
I assume the researcher you are refering to is Andrew Wakefield. He studied the MMR vaccine. The MMR never contained thimerosal since it was composed of 3 live weakened viruses. The thimerosal would instantly kill these viruses making the vaccine worthless. Who's technical ignorance is unparalleled?
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 5:50PM
Lancet withdrew the article, and Dr Wakefield lost his license.
Tom| 5.18.11 @ 7:53PM
Oh there is so much more to this story. Read the books "Callous Disregard" and "Silenced Witnesses" if you are interested in anything more than what you are spoonfed. You real are a tool if you put much faith in the mainstream media stories.
martin j smith| 5.18.11 @ 10:24AM
First: Is this the ONLY concern about MITCH DANIELS ? Or, are there other even more pressing issues ?
Second: Some one who posts as a "whistle blower" may or may not be who they really are.
I am more negative about Daniels than positive --but I do not take at face value posts of the kind who identify themselves as this or that. Anyone can do that. I could. My concern about Daniels is a sence of RINONESS-someone who cannot be trusted.
Doctor Right| 5.18.11 @ 10:33AM
I'm not jumping on the Mitch Daniels bandwagon; he's a RINO in Elephant-clothing.
We don't need a "Mr. Mild", or a technocrat as our nominee. We need someone with the cajones to take this fight literally to Obama and the Libs and shove it right into their smug, fat faces.
That's not l'il Mitch.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 5:45PM
Dr R,
I like your assessment of Presidential candidates. Please give us your reasoning as it develops over the season; it is greatly appreciated, as are you.
Bob Grant| 5.18.11 @ 10:46AM
This is the first of many attacks on Mitch Daniels. We'll see how he handles it. It's part of the vetting system.
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 6:37PM
Exactly.
The pres job is not for the faint of heart and sacrificing privacy is part of it.
chris haynes| 5.18.11 @ 10:50AM
Youre right. Let's look at the real issues>
Daniels leadership strategy: Surrender your agenda, so you can convince your foe to advance his. "We accept abortion fellas, so please let us help save your welfare state. "
Daniel's point: "Hey what's abortion? Only 55 million in the US alone, the greatest holcaust in all history. But saving entitlements, the EPA, pensions, that's what counts. "
Imagine a liberal saying "We need to repeal Roe vs Wade, so we can convince the republicans to cut taxes." Give the liberals this: Theyre not goofs.
Bob| 5.18.11 @ 10:57AM
What about Cheri? His lovely cheating wife will cause him no end of trouble.
Wayne | 5.18.11 @ 11:18AM
What I am concerned about is if Eli Lily charges more for the same drugs in the US than in other countries.
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 11:45AM
They do, and on Daniels' watch.
Careful what you wish for.
Doctor Right| 5.18.11 @ 1:17PM
Of course they charge different prices in different locations!!!
That's called "economics"!!! And basic knowledge of economics is sorely lacking in this country.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 5:52PM
Actually, it's not that simple, Dr. R:
Most overseas countries buy their drugs in a cartel like format, pushing profits down. Our charges reflect the fact that we are essentially billed to do Europe/Canada/Australasia's drug research for THEM. We are owed money by those worthless countries.
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 6:47PM
Not quite.
Novartis, Astra, Sanofi, Bayer, Roche, Glaxo are all foreign based and they spend their money at an equal or greater rate than domestic players.
The key difference is in generics where countries like Canada have the most advanced system of approvals once the drug comes off patent.
Get your facts straight before you attempt to defend a bad big pharma practice here.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 7:12PM
The majority of their research is done in the US, Canuckistani. The majority of ALL world wide medical research is done in the US.
I have been a speaker for Lilly, Pfizer, Astra-Zeneca, Cephalon, Janssen, Forest, etc.
I'm not saying that there aren't foreign based drug companies. I'm stating where the research is done. Compared to me, you know squat.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 7:18PM
Article follows, Canuckistani: arguing with a man who has unlimited access to his own academic research medical library is unwise:
"Pharmacoeconomics. 2010;28(8):615-28. doi: 10.2165/11535580-000000000-00000.
Financial effects of pharmaceutical price regulation on R&D spending by EU versus US firms.
Golec J, Vernon JA.
SourceFinance Department, School of Business, University of Connecticut, Storrs, CT 06269-1041, USA. jgolec@business.uconn.edu
Abstract
EU countries closely regulate pharmaceutical prices, whereas the US does not. This paper shows how price constraints affect the profitability, stock returns and R&D spending of EU and US firms. Compared with EU firms, US firms are more profitable, earn higher stock returns and spend more on R&D. We tested the relationship between price regulation and R&D spending, and estimated the costs of tight EU price regulation. Although results show that EU consumers enjoyed much lower pharmaceutical price inflation, we estimated that price controls cost EU firms 46 fewer new medicines and 1680 fewer research jobs during our 19-year sample period. Had the US used controls similar to those used in the EU, we estimate it would have led to 117 fewer new medicines and 4368 fewer research jobs in the US."
Like I said, on certain things I am not giving just an opinion---I am actually an expert. Psych medications are the largest expenditure of State Medicaid Pharmacy costs. I am a Psychopharmacologist MD. I know this stuff cold.
Thank you for playing.
Drunken Sailor| 5.19.11 @ 11:00AM
LOL, and it's a home run for OT.
Dai Alanye | 5.18.11 @ 12:01PM
Price breaks given by Lily and others to foreign nations are in response to those nations enforcing price controls. The US should simply pass a law stating that drug firms may not sell cheaper outside than inside the US. Should have been done years ago.
Doctor Right| 5.18.11 @ 1:18PM
No, the Federal Government should get the HELL OUT of a private corporation's decisions on how to sell their drugs, and what prices to attach to them.
canuckistani| 5.18.11 @ 2:52PM
And also get the HELL out of offering Medicare programs to seniors.
Try it, see if that is a winning strategy in 2012.
Doctor Right| 5.18.11 @ 3:39PM
Once again, you prove your over-arching idiocy.
NO ONE, Republican or Democrat, has proposed a one-time, one-size-fit-all destruction of Medicare. Ryan's plan is a well thought-out, well-designed plan to allow future generations to:
a) Be relieved of the crushing debt of Medicare entitlements, and
b) Plan for their own retirements.
If that's a losing proposition in an election, than the people have truly become TOO STUPID to govern.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 5:53PM
And so should foreign countries, Dr. R. They need to let free market take over, too. Socialist vermin that they are.
RCV| 5.18.11 @ 3:33PM
Absent an anti-competitive illegal price-fixing conspiracy (and there cetainly are those sometimes), producers can't arbitrarily charge whatever price they want if the market is working freely. Cost of production and sales, weighed against demand and competitive forces (alternative sellers or products), will set the price in any given location. And it will be different, here and elsewhere. An iced cold coke is going to go for more in New Orleans in August than in Ann Arbor in February.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 5:46PM
Yes, they do. They are negotiated down in other countries. YOU pay for European country drug research.
NATO scum owe us much payment for MANY things. They are thieves and worthless allies.
RCV| 5.18.11 @ 7:24PM
Bargaining is part of the market.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 7:58PM
Not if you are bargaining with a Cartel, RCV. We in the US are subsidizing the world's medical research. We also are defending Europe. All without a payback.
Seriously, look at drug research in New Zealand (hint: there is none) if you want to see an example of leeching.
St. Thor| 5.18.11 @ 3:14PM
Mitch Daniels has proven himself unable to handle the powers of the Presidency already. Not by any conspiracy laden bull about what he did in private life, but by his actions as Governor of Indiana. He appointed to the Indiana Supreme Court the judge who wrote the majority opinion (3-2), in Barnes v. State, that there is no right of a citizen to resist an ILLEGAL entry into their home by cops. The 4th Amendment doesn't exist in Indiana thanks to Mitch Daniels appointment of a judge incompetent to handle constitutional issues. We don't need another President like George H. W. Bush (who appointed momma's boy David Souter to the US Supreme Court) appointing anyone to the federal courts.
Doctor Right| 5.18.11 @ 3:40PM
Good point.
Margie| 5.18.11 @ 4:47PM
Thanks for the info. I will never consider moving to that state.
Nor will I consider Mitch Daniels seriously.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 5:43PM
Folks: Full disclosure---I was a lecturer for Eli Lilly Company in the early 2000s, specifically on Zyprexa.
So, a few comments: 1) Zyprexa can help old folks with agitation secondary to dementia sleep and reduce their agitation---it also comes with a risk of stroke that it shares with other antipsychotics. Risks must be balanced. It is not FDA approved for this indication, but it is used. It also can cause appetite gain in cachectic dementia patients.
2) It can help with sleep in schizophrenics, because sleep disturbance is a symptom of psychosis. It is not the best antispychotic for this purpose.
The FDA is probably overreacting on this, as it does.
3) Lilly deliberately minimized research findings on weight gain and diabetes in patients with schizophrenia on Zyprexa. I was a speaker for the company ON THIS DRUG and I know how the speakers were trained. I have never seen a greater case of foot dragging. They should have been more aggressive in getting the adverse information out sooner. However, there are atypical antipsychotics with a much lower risk (Geodon and Abilify), and Lilly was afraid of losing competitive advantage.
I am not surmising or suggesting, I know. The evenhandedness of my overall comments (Zyprexa's efficacy is second only to Clozaril in treating this horrible illness) should speak in favor of my conclusions. Breggin is a known anti-medication advocate. Clinically, he is considered to be a nincompoop by his colleagues.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 5:49PM
By the way, I am not suggesting that Drug Companies should be spanked for their profits. It is now around 2 BILLION dollars to bring a drug to market which has a life expectancy for profit of less than 15 years---after that, or even before, they go generic and profit drops. Within 15 years EVERY major drug company's ENTIRE inventory must be replaced if profits are not to crater.
That being said, we still pay for Canada's drug research, the UK's, France, Germany, etc. The research is done here because we are the most lucrative market.
Margie| 5.18.11 @ 7:32PM
O.T.~
If you knew someone that you think might be Schizophrenic, and no one in the family is doing anything about it~ how on earth do you get the person to see they have a problem?
If you are willing to answer my question, please e mail me @ wehavetoomuchstuff@gmail.com.
Many thanks.
PCP Smoker| 5.18.11 @ 9:27PM
Just to expand on that tidbit about "after that, or even before". The FDA, as a matter of law, urges generic drug manufacturers to aggressively challenge the drug patent, even to the point of marketing the generic product.
In fact, Teva is renown for generating generics of drugs still under patent protection and using the court system to reach some negotiated settlement with the pharma that owns the drug.
Thanks for bringing that up.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 8:13PM
Margie,
I'm going to give you a general open answer, because the question you ask is a good one, and other people might want to know.
Generally, treatment cannot be forced in any of the 50 states unless you meet some form of what in CA is called a "5150"---that is that the patient is either currently or imminently forseeable (in CA that second does not apply, in other states, such as AL or MN or NM, it does) as a danger to self/others/or is unable to care for self due to mental illness.
But, getting the schizophrenic to see that he is ill can be a terrible problem. Usually, what I like to do is focus on a symptom that is bothering the patient---for example, voices, or insomnia, or paranoia ("my goodness, that must hurt"), and stress that these are things a good MD can help with. Always identify and seek to reduce a patient's pain, and that is helpful. This disease HURTS.
The best programs on the East Coast (north) are Harvard, Yale, U of Pittsburgh. Tufts also has a superb guy in Nassir Ghaemi. NIMH is in Bethesda. New York has Columbia and NYU. NYU writes the definitive textbook of Psychiatry.
South, you're looking at Duke and Emory U.
Southwest, go to Texas---and the best are Baylor (Menninger Clinic) and UT Dallas (Trisha Suppes and John Rush).
Midwest, I recommend U of Wisconsin (Jefferson and Griest). In Chicago, go with U of I, although Rush Medical College is also quite good. Mayo Clinic's program is in the top 8 nationwide, and they have THE BEST Neurology program in the country. Washington U is also very good, as is University of Cincinnati and Cleveland Clinic (although Cinci is probably better)
West Coast, U of Washington has good people, but the standouts are Stanford in the North and UCLA in the South. At UCLA, the go to guy is Marder.
A good place to get some help with other sources in to go to the NAMI website or look up Fuller Torrey's Treatment Advocacy Center website.
I hope this has been helpful. G-d Bless, Margie.
Margie| 5.18.11 @ 9:17PM
Excellent info., thanks.
Occam's Tool| 5.18.11 @ 10:42PM
You are a dream rabbit, Margie. Best of luck.
PCP Smoker| 5.18.11 @ 9:21PM
I'm for whatever opprobrium we can heap on Mitch Daniels and his WHORE of a wife . This creep needs to be taken out. No one needs McClame/Grahmensty II running against Obama. I don't want to lose this election.
Xanthippus| 5.18.11 @ 10:30PM
David Kahane was right: Mitch is a weird little homunculus!
Dee See| 5.18.11 @ 11:21PM
Worrying about the controlled antics
of the capstone set-up fronts, be they
Media Matters or Human Events
---will get un nowhere.
IN FACT worse than nowhere as it keeps
us in the ditch that's being rapidly filled
in.
HUAC meets NUREMBERG 2012
---AS we sit through the deadly fallout of the
greatest world nuclear disaster and cover up
of ALLLL time.
PCP Smoker| 5.19.11 @ 9:13PM
I think it's HUAAC, the other A for activities
somnolence| 5.19.11 @ 12:28AM
I'm sure that Santorum was thinking about circumstances where these "consenting" adults might be involving children within their perverse den. If so, there is good intention there, a situation I much prefer over Mitch Daniels's pot arrest at Princeton with 2 shoeboxes full of hemp he was in possession of, and arrested for. Santorum's heart is in the right place, Daniels wasn't and isn't now in Indiana, where he appointed a judge that approves of cops knocking the door down on your home without a warrant. Daniels is a non-starter for me, really a cruel joke.
simon templar| 5.19.11 @ 1:04AM
To canukastanni and all the other trolls: Get off your asses and walk down to your university library....ask the librarian to direct you to the yearly annual financial statements and reports for the 3 largest drug companies. Look at them. Notice the profit margins relative to the expenses and operations cost listed on the report sheet particularly the R and D cost. Now, take this dime and call your mother and apologize for being a useful idiot.
Drunken Sailor| 5.19.11 @ 11:08AM
I work for a major Pharmaceutical Wholesaler. First glances can be deceiving. We always hear how anyone in the drug market is making obscene profits and they point to our overall profits reported to stockholders. What they don't see is we make just under .01 cents for every $100 dollars of product we sell. Many of our customers get our products at cost or even up to 10% below cost. The pharmaceutical world is much more complicated than selling a car.