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How Should Conservatives View the Osama Killing?

By Lisa Fabrizio on 5.11.11 @ 6:08AM

What's behind the queasiness many seem to feel?

Now that the world's most infamous killer has been taken out of circulation, how should conservatives feel? I mean, apart from the pride in our military and intelligence personnel and the satisfaction that there is one less thug to direct the forces of evil against Western civilization.

It's true that some questions remain, particularly with the White House's abominable handling of the facts in the case. One can't blame those who have doubts about many of the details surrounding the killing and disposal of bin Laden. Indeed, recent reports indicating that a deal may have been made between then-presidents Bush and Musharraf permitting U.S. missions to capture the Al Qaeda chief within Pakistani borders, would explain a lot.

But aside from these considerations, why are some conservatives feeling a bit queasy about the whole thing? Has our inveterate dislike for the policies of our president so hardened our hearts that we are no longer capable of giving credit where credit is due?

I don't think so. It has more to do with Obama's take on the killing and the reaction of his supporters to it.

Maybe it was the swooning and drooling that rolled across the print and airwaves of America like a tsunami in the aftermath of the killing. Chris Matthews summed up the dizzying exuberance of the media when he pronounced it "best week ever" for the country. This unrestrained glee over the death of bin Laden after ten years of pursuit was, shall we say, in sharp contrast to the left's reaction when George W. Bush issued his famous "dead or alive" ultimatum while the rubble at Ground Zero was still smoking, which was dismissed as "wild west rhetoric."

But it is now Barack Obama and the powers behind his teleprompter that are dishing out the gunslinger talk. In an interview Sunday on 60 Minutes, the president said, "[O]ne thing I didn't lose sleep over was the possibility of taking bin Laden out. Justice was done." Added to this new portrayal of himself as a cool dispenser of vigilante justice was the role of courageous wartime leader. How do we know this? Because he was not too humble to deign to explain it all to his subjects. As he elaborated in his most Churchillian fashion for the CBS cameras:

You know, every time I make a decision -- about launching a missile, every time I make a decision about sending troops into battle -- you know I understand that this will result in people being killed. And that is a sobering fact. But it is one that comes with the job.

Yet Obama does deserve credit for courage; especially in the face of his own base. This should answer any questions about the absolute certainty of his re-election chances. Now I'm not suggesting that the president acted on any other motive than a sincere desire to rid the world of our sworn enemy. No, it's the pose that he's chosen to employ in its wake that seems to imply that he needs to fire up the independents, or as they used to be known, Reagan Democrats.

The thing is, Obama's action against Osama -- and the manner in which the intelligence for the mission was gleaned -- doesn't square with the stated foreign policy objectives on which he campaigned. His past record can't help but make his opponents feel that the whole business carries with it a decided whiff of opportunism.

And maybe this is at the core of what disturbs conservatives about last week's events. George Bush fought two wars that he felt served the same end; defending an American way of life he strongly believed in, while asserting our right to act unilaterally in pursuit of same. There just isn't the same sense of conviction with Obama.

Maybe I'm wrong; I hope that I am. I want to believe that being in close proximity to the intelligence to which he is now privy has changed Obama into the sort of leader of which all Americans can be proud; one who has been transformed by witnessing the actions of those who are ready to give their lives for our country and its Constitution. If the rest of America can ever be convinced of that -- and not just that he was the right man in the right place at the right time -- he might indeed be a candidate to be reckoned with. But don't bet on it.

About the Author

Lisa Fabrizio is a columnist who hails from Connecticut (mailbox@lisafab.com).

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Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 5.11.11 @ 6:16AM

Just one note: Osama was not an infamous killer. He was an infamous terrorist. Charles Manson was an infamous killer. They are not the same.

oldfart| 5.11.11 @ 6:42AM

Actually Charles Manson never actually killed anyone - like Osama - he insited others to do the job. Now the Boston Strangler and Jack the Ripper are different stories.

Albert| 5.11.11 @ 10:01AM

Just a note: Manson was not convicted in theTate-LaBianca murders of actually killing any of the victims himself, but he readily admitted even then to personally killing many other people unrelated to the Tate-LaBianca crimes, murders for which he was never prosecuted. (He was sentenced to death after all, so why prosecute further?)

Pat Spooner| 5.11.11 @ 7:00AM

Let's be honest, Obama has been strutting his stuff like a proud peacock since the Seals killed OBL - our president is the type of person who will continue to milk this for all he can politically - tying to demonstrate what a courageous leader and tough guy he is. The MSM will continue to coddle him and place him upon a pedestal. But ultimately real Americans know what a fool his is and we will not forget come November 2012.

Wayne | 5.11.11 @ 7:27AM

He is also a killer who enjoys the killing.

Teaghan| 5.11.11 @ 8:02AM

Exactly Wayne. He is a cold blooded killer, whether he does it himself or orders other to do it. His stance on abortion shows he's as cold as ice and is not a Christian. I am sickened by this asassination and media hoopla. We are no better than the Palestinians after 9/11, chorttaling in the streets, passing out candy. He makes me sick every time I see and/or him. Our president is a coldblooded killer.

simon templar| 5.11.11 @ 9:30AM

I think you need to seperate and define the term, We. The media and a few million sycophants of their master is not, We. The majority of Americans were not "dancing in the street like Palestinians." Furthermore, anyone with half a brain knows that many of his supporters were not celebrating the capture and killing of an international terrorist but rather the idea that their master scored big in politics and that he was assured of reelection. That was one of the first things out of their mouths. Yes, that is not appropriate. You go too far in comparing these Americans to palestinians. The passing out of candy reference was a celebration of killing an innocent family in their home. You compare this to the capture 'dead or alive' operation of a known international terrorist responsible for 3000 deaths to the killing of an innocent family by another group of terrorist? As much as I can not even stand the sight of this poser as President, I do not call him an assassin nor a coldblooded killer in this situation. He was not the only person involved in this operation...our intelligence agency and military are not robots without will and their own sense of what needs to be done.

Teaghan| 5.11.11 @ 10:56AM

He gave the order. Where does it stop? And as for the dancing in the streets, it was all over the news and perception is everything, especially in politices. He cares not for human life.

Dai Alanye| 5.11.11 @ 1:32PM

"…killing's the only cure for him"

This quote from The Virginian is exactly how we should view bin Laden's death. There is no loss to the world, and the devil is surely dancing in hell. I chose not to overtly celebrate but also choose not to condemn those who did.

Warrior| 5.11.11 @ 2:11PM

This President is attempting to put CIA agents on trial for enhanced interrogation (waterboarding) techniques that never physically injured or killed anyone. Yet, without a trial the liberals continue to insist that justice was served. You can't have this both ways. These same liberal operatives have no problem putting our military heroes such as those at Haditha and Col Chisano (sp?) on trial for possibly making a mistake in a combat theater. Yet, we now glow about an execution order from a President against a potentially unarmed, with a wife and children present (allbeit total scumbag) without benefit of a trial.

Liberals can't have this both ways, yet all the Conservatives seem to be comfortable with this. Boehner should immediately insist that all these investigations into our military and inteligence people stop or begin impeachment proceedings on the President. Not only was an execution order given, he has used our military offensively without any congressional approval or declaration of war. These same liberals wanted to try Bush and Cheney for war crimes which do not even amount to half of what this jackass in office is doing.

Occam's Tool| 5.11.11 @ 2:50PM

Please, whoever is comparing the Americans to Palestinians is an idiot. Palestinians dance when three month old children get their heads cut off. We cheer when a vicious mass murdering scumbag bites the dust. Massive difference.

Sam Vaughn| 5.11.11 @ 9:10AM

Cynically speaking I think it went more like this -
Conversation between Seals at Abbottabad-
Seal 1- "... you mean we're supposed to cuff him, read him his Miranda rights and ship him to NYC for a taxpayer funded trial?..."

Seal 2 -".....that's right, instructions from the CIC...!"

Seal 1- "......well Son of a Beatch,,,,, my trigger finger slipped,,,,twice...."

Seal 2-"......oh well he put up resistance, that bed slipper he threw at you looked deadly...."

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 5.11.11 @ 7:04AM

Actually the Boston Strangler suspect, Albert DeSalvo, was never convicted for murder but was convicted for rape. There never was any evidence that Albert DeSalvo murdered anyone.

As far as Charles Manson, he may not have murdered anyone but that's immaterial. Unlike Osama, Manson was present at the crime scene and was the ring leader and under the law he's an infamous and convicted killer.

Osama Bin Laden was never tried or found guilty of anything.

In the meantime, Eric Holder just yesterday insisted that GITMO will still be shut down, and the Justice Department is still after the people who engaged in enhanced interrogation techniques during the Bush years.

Appleby| 5.11.11 @ 7:04AM

Obama is a kid with his back to the Rocky Mountains throwing handsful of sand together and yelling *Look at the mountain I made!*

MoeBlotz| 5.11.11 @ 7:16AM

Why do you hope you are wrong,Mz.Fabrizio? Most of us who read your articles think your assessment is spot on. You exhibit the linguine spine mentality of the beltway republicans with such a disclaimer.

Wayne | 5.11.11 @ 7:26AM

Conservatives should not stoop themselves to the morality of the Liberals in which the ends justifies the means.

Richard Baker| 5.11.11 @ 7:42AM

Dead. Done.

Michael Tomlinson| 5.11.11 @ 7:44AM

We're quezy, because we know if re-elected Obama may put the SEALS on trial for murdering an unarmed Muslim to placate the UN and Arab League (just like he's persecuting the CIA interrogators who got the intel to get Osama bin Laden).

Teaghan| 5.11.11 @ 8:05AM

With information like your post, I feel I have awoken in a parallel universe.
And yesterday the Presbyterians have okayed gays and lesbians to be ministers and single ministers no longer have to be celebit. Is that becasue they know gays cannot be celebit? I am anxious to know where my church proper, stands on this.

Michael Tomlinson| 5.11.11 @ 10:08AM

I hadn't heard this tragic news. Where is a John Knox when you need him?

Hey, I never put anything against Obama/Holder. The Black Panthers intimidating voters is OK, but protecting America is a "crime against humanity" in their Democrat minds.

martin j smith| 5.11.11 @ 7:59AM

The killing of OBL for a conservative should be as follows: Lets assume he (OBL ) is actually dead--unless he get on the air waves and smiles and says--I'm still here!!!!!!!!!!!!" --the next thing we should ask ourselves is: GREAT, NOW WHAT ?
THIS IS THE KEY QUESTION. ONE HAS TO GIVE TIME TO SEE OBAMA'S TRUE INTENTIONS IN THE WAR ON TERROR. If he reverts to his old "appeasement self" then I will suspect this whole thing is theater from start to finish. And so will most Americans. Do I actually think OBL is a major issue now--NO--just a footnote that HAD TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. Its a lot more than him

Melvin| 5.11.11 @ 8:04AM

Like it or not, digestible or not the United States just went out and publicly assassinated an individual.
No that the euphoria of killing Bin Laden has settled enough for many of us to realize it.
Like it or not Americans due have a conscience, and now it is started to surface.
Assassinating individuals is nothing new in the political realm, but it is usually done with more gravitas and finesses. Unlike the Presidents drive by shooting of Bin Laden, to where he as gotten himself all wee wee'd up telling the world, "Thats right, I'm the man, no body messes with Barrack."
I as anyone else wanted that SOB Bin Laden stone cold dead, but we needn't have conducted it, like a cheap Chicago gang land style drive by shooting.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 5.11.11 @ 8:40AM

It wasn't done like that. At least the assassination part. It was a military operation. Osama was a terrorist and got what all terrorists should get. A bullet good bye.

Melvin| 5.11.11 @ 9:30AM

Bill I completely agree. Operationally it was a tactile success, and if given the chance I would have pulled the trigger my damn self.
Obama handled it very sloppily. As I had noted earlier that assassinations have been done by Countries in the past, but with much more finesse, and gravitas. Sometimes silence is the best method with the enemy. Instead of jumping up and down, "Hey, look it what I did, that's right I'm the man, who's ur daddy, who's ur daddy."
All that should have been said is. "As of 0445, 11 May 2011, Osama Bin Laden was killed in a military operation."
The government needn't have entered into the soap opera of how.

Warrior| 5.11.11 @ 3:41PM

OBL should have been killed a lot slower and in a much more painful way. However, military operation or not, Holder is on record months ago stating that OBL would be killed and never stand trial and Obama ordered the execution of potentially an unarmed man. This matters because these same two people will have no problem charging CIA agents and giving them jail time for interrogations that neither injured or killed these same kinds of terrorists. They will also not hesitate to prosecute military members for purported crimes that lack any credible witnesses for accidentally shooting an unarmed terrorist.

Teaghan| 5.11.11 @ 11:03AM

And right on time for campaign season!!! How convenient~

Petronius| 5.11.11 @ 8:26AM

With slight regard.
Chicago style hits meld so well with the Democrat Party ethos, even when justified.

Patrick| 5.11.11 @ 8:39AM

Does this make Obama eligible for another Nobel Peace Prize?

JP| 5.11.11 @ 8:40AM

I think Field Marshall Obama derserves all the accolades. And in keeping with the ancient European tradition, Field Marshal Obama should be given a large cash award, estates of his choosing, and we should re-introduce the European Class System. FM Obama will now the title of Lord Barrack Field Marshal Obama from the House of Hope and Change.

Paul| 5.11.11 @ 9:05AM

I love when the socilaist metro-sexual talks tough! If confronted by a terrorist, he would take out his man-purse and give them a sound thrashing!
On a serious note, Mike Tomlinson is correct as usual, this is the same guy that wanted to prosecute the professionals at the CIA that developed the info that led to Bib-Laden's just reward, remember that next time you see him talking tough.

LarryK| 5.11.11 @ 9:10AM

There are just some people that need to kick the oxygen habit!

John G.| 5.11.11 @ 9:11AM

"How should conservatives feel about the Osama killing?" I don't know; "Better him than us?" The team member that took him out didn't have the luxury of giving him the "Harry Callahan" routine (do you feel lucky? Well do ya, punk?) Seems to me that Osama at one time claimed he wouldn't be taken alive. He could have been been wired to go "boom" under those garments; the slightest move sealed his fate.

Louis Jenkins| 5.11.11 @ 9:11AM

That's funny JP, Obama has went from the House of Hope and Change to DRT (Dead Right There). There's a killer in the White House who now has blood on his mouth. And the adoring crowd swooned!

PJ| 5.11.11 @ 9:26AM

I can't believe people here are hinting at questioning the morality of killing OBL.

This man was evil, from a religious sense, secular sense, & every other sense of the word. He freely chose to be to side with evil. He was a terrorist out to destroy a free way of life even if it meant destroying innocent lives here in this country & around the world. He even said it!

You all, should stop thinking like relativists.

OBL had 10+ yrs to repent by turning himself in to the proper authorities. Again he freely chose not to. There's indication that he opted not to turn himself in to the Navy Seals.

God, working through the Navy Seals definitely & maybe Obama, mercifully saved untold numbers of innocent Muslims, Jews, & Christians from being slaughtered.

To Lisa Fabrizio & others like you---Don't go wobbly! Qualifications for the Just War Doctrine were fulfilled.

BTW, I give Obama credit for his decision like I give a broken clock credit for showing the correct time twice/day.

simon templar| 5.11.11 @ 9:49AM

Thank you PJ for your insight, common sense, and clarity. May I add that this WAS NOT AN ASSASINATION! What exactly do these posters not get? First this is a WAR! Second this is not a soldier...this is a unlawful enemy combatant who is also a known international terrorist who WAS and admitted he was responsible for the killing of 3000 America citizens. He does not deserve or have US citizen rights to a trial nor should he be treated as if he was a leader of a nation that we were at war with. No laws were broken here in his capture and killing either domestically or internationally. So, let us knock off the hand wringing, whining, moral relativism, disinformation, political side swipes, smarmy remarks, and inaccurate moral equivelencies.

PJ| 5.11.11 @ 10:30AM

The problem with the "wobblies" is that they are over analyzing the situation to the point of second-guessing their intuitive sense of what evil is. If they were in leadership positions during WWII, Hitler would have won.

Teaghan| 5.11.11 @ 11:08AM

And obama does NOT deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. I agree with you Simon that UBL needed killing, the Christian part of me said it wasn't right. I do thank God though, that he wasn't "brought to justice", an overused term, in NYC for a show trial that would have outdone all show trials, and given him a public platform to spew his evil hatred. I"m sure the DOJ is saddened.

Louis Jenkins| 5.11.11 @ 11:50AM

PJ:

No love lost on Osama's death. He's better dead than alive, in many ways. Obama has opened up his re-election campaign, first releasing the birth certificate, and now by killing Osama. Maybe masses have been saved from being killed, but we'll never be sure. I just find it a bit self conceited on Obama's part to have promised so much, and failed to deliver on almost every issue that matters, and yet he's promised other items, and delivers in wholesale bonuses like the cost of gasoline, the cost of doing business, the costliness of health care, the price of immigration, etc. There's even some people that believe Osama was not killed and taken to Gitmo. Astounding. May we live in interesting times.

PJ| 5.11.11 @ 1:48PM

As I mentioned before Obama made a no-brainer decision from any angle. He can have his few temporary approval points.

Younger Soldier| 5.17.11 @ 9:53AM

President Obama deserves credit. He's the Commander In Chief. He made the call. He got it done. Had this occurred under George Bush's watch (it didn't) it wouldn't even be an issue. You people would be giving him all the credit.

Doctor Right| 5.11.11 @ 9:36AM

"I want to believe that being in close proximity to the intelligence to which he is now privy has changed Obama into the sort of leader of which all Americans can be proud"

WHAT are you smoking?!?!?

The killing of Osama Bin Laden was done for one reason and one reason only:

To improve Obama's chances of re-election in 2012.

Obama did NOT want to do this; he sat on this intel for 9 months. When it was clear that an opportunity availed itself, he decided to "sleep on it", and dithered for 16 hours while CIA operatives and Navy SEALS waited for him to act. His first priority after this animal was put-down was to appease Muslim sensibilities and make sure that Bin Laden was given a "proper Muslim burial", instead of being buried in a pit with pig guts and offal. Then, to ad insult to injury, he took ALL the credit for a "gutsy" act, knowing full well that he had no choice; if it ever got out that he knew where Bin Laden was and refused, he'd be removed from office!

There was NOTHING heroic about Obama's decision; he did what a President is supposed to do, nothing more. Where I come from, we don't give KUDOs for fulfilling your job description; that's for going above and beyond.

BTW...This conservative has NO qualms or uneasiness about Bin Laden's killing.

simon templar| 5.11.11 @ 9:53AM

Doc Right, right again.

Albert| 5.11.11 @ 10:08AM

I couldn't have said it better myself. Doctor Right, you are dead on target. President Bozo acted for POLITICAL reasons, not moral reasons, not legal reasons, not national security reasons. And politics to a Socialist means power, prestige, and wealth, nothing more. This is why President Bozo is braying about himself. "Himself" is all Bozo cares about.

Occam's Tool| 5.11.11 @ 2:53PM

You see why I think you're awesome, Dr Right...

Warrior| 5.11.11 @ 3:45PM

Doctor Right, depending on what sources you read, President jackass may have actually sat on the order for 16 days and not 16 hours.

Younger Soldier| 5.17.11 @ 9:54AM

Dr. Wrong!

Ken (Old Texican)| 5.11.11 @ 9:40AM

My queasy is that for Obama, it was all a pure political calculation.

simon templar| 5.11.11 @ 9:50AM

Exactly. Thankfully it was done nevertheless by our military.

Anthony| 5.11.11 @ 9:45AM

You have got to be kidding Lisa, if you think the Muslim Marxist president has a new found respect for the American military and our intelligence community.
The dithering president took 16 hours to make the call. Sacrificing one Muslim for the political gain of another is not a tough call. Osama was expendible in order to save Obama.
Still, as we speak, A.G. Hack Holder is persuing criminal charges against CIA interrogators who waterboardered 3 terrorists in order to gain this vital information.
As we speak, Obozo has failed to call off criminal investigations of Pentagon and Justice Department lawyers who issued learnered and scholarly treatises on the history of "enhanced interrogation" and made accurate legal conclusions based upon Stare Decisis of previous Supreme Court case law.
There was ZERO courage here Lisa, as I said, one Muslim sacrificed another Muslim for his own political future, something Muslims have been doing to each other since the 7th century.
Courage is Obozo thanking Bush/Cheney for doing all the right things, especially in the face of insane leftist opposition, led by the Muslim Marxist himself.
Courage is telling his base that they are as loony as he is, and that America is safe because of these policies.
Courage is admitting he is a fraud, who stood on the shoulders of better men than he, in order to demonstrate his prowess as a "leader".
No way in Hell is this pathetic loser capable of such admissions. He is a leftist loser, hellbent on the destruction of America.

simon templar| 5.11.11 @ 9:52AM

Once again, Anthony, you nailed it!

Warrior| 5.11.11 @ 3:47PM

I glad to see I'm not alone in my feelings.

DRed| 5.11.11 @ 9:58AM

You couldn't be more wrong when you say that killing Osama "doesn't square with the stated foreign policy objectives on which he campaigned." Getting Osama was one of the objectives on which the President campaigned. Obama did what he said he was going to do-I'm not so sure what you are all so upset about. Some of the comments here are deranged.

Albert| 5.11.11 @ 10:16AM

Some of the comments to which you refer are not reflective of regret that Mr. bin Laden has assumed room temperature. They merely question the motives of our esteemed President Bozo, and the questioning is entirely justified based on Bozo's own self aggrandizement over the incident. Mr. Bozo should bray less and congratulate more. Not likely to happen.

DRed| 5.11.11 @ 10:25AM

It's considerably more likely than Obama being a muslim marxist hellbent on the destruction of America. Setting that nonsense aside, if Osama was killed for purely political reasons, wouldn't Obama have waited until it was closer to the election?

simon templar| 5.11.11 @ 10:52AM

That is a wee bit illogical. Answer, no! He most likely could not wait another year..his best chance was now. The issue we have here is with your liberal media and his supporters unashamedly using it as a political event and exploiting it. Yes, he apparently did set this as one of his objectives. The issue here is not that he pulled the trigger on this but the fact that he waited so long and dithered. But that is a minor issue. What we are having a problem with is the huge inconsistency in all of this. His administration is prosecuting the very same people who are largely responsible for obtaining the intelligence that allowed his success in this effort. His additional objectives of closing GITMO, giving US citizen rights to unlawful enemy combatants, his attempts to try them in civilian courts, and his restraints on interrogation all fly in the face of reason let alone are in direct conflict with what made this effort a success and what provided him with the intell that allowed that success. I am not sure why I am explaining this to you as it will go in one ear and right out the other without a second of thought or consideration. You will most likely attempt to obfuscate the issue, misdirect, and throw in a few false premises just for good measure as you usually do. There is no reason to attempt to reason with a Red Liberal. By the way, yes, some of these post have been a bit off the wall particularly the hand wringing and incorrect moral equivelency arguments. See, you should try stepping out of your sycophant zone and put the bamster kool aid down for a moment.

Jeremiah| 5.11.11 @ 11:24AM

Shoot, Simon, I don't see how Obama has been inconsistent in using the hard work of CIA operatives and pentagon lawyers to accomplish his goal (a bump in the polls) while simultaneously prosecuting and persecuting those very same people that did all the heavy lifting to allow him to strut and crow. The left's mantra has long been that they will let no good deed go unpunished - so they are just doing what comes natural to them.

Lord, I am so glad I left the Democratic Party almost four decades ago while still a teenager.

simon templar| 5.11.11 @ 1:51PM

Yes, Jeremiah, inconsistency, hypocricy, and projection come naturally to them.

DRed| 5.11.11 @ 7:07PM

Well, considering that Osama had been in the same house for 5 years, I think it's fair to assume Obama could have waited a while longer before sending in the SEALs. Even after Obama gave the order for them to go in, they waited 2 or 3 days before assaulting Osama's compound. So I think it's pretty clear that this wasn't a situation where a decision needed to be made in an instant.

As far as I know, the majority of the information used to get Osama was obtained without the use of torture. Am I wrong on that?

And you're really surprised that politicians are exploiting this for political gain? That's what politicians do. That's not a partisan issue.

Nick| 5.12.11 @ 12:01AM

DRed,

Pouring water over the head of an unlawful enemy combatant, i.e. waterboarding terrorists, is not torture. Neither, is depriving them of sleep or putting them in hot/cold rooms.

I suggest you read some history to find out what the Japs and Gestapo did to P.O.W.s during World War II. They tortured their prisoners.

Anthony| 5.11.11 @ 10:31AM

DRed, Drinking too much koolaide is not good for one's health. I don't recall Obozo campaigning on getting Osama. I do recall him campaigning on closing GITMO, which his very first action as president was to sign the Executive Order closing GITMO.
Suprise, suprise, it's still open. Political hacks always keep their options open, especially with a base as stupid and pliant as his, (which includes you).
While you and other lefties get tingly feelings down your legs when Obozo says things he does not mean, you and your ilk fail to take measure of this loser by examining his actions, as I cited in my previous post, and my comments about GITMO.
He's also lied about boarder security and actions taken ( or lack thereof) to secure our southern border.
Actions, actions, actions. Forget Obozo's glib words, concentrate on what your two eyes are telling you. Or better yet, open your damn eyes!!

DRed| 5.11.11 @ 10:43AM

"And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden. "

That's Obama in 2008, during his second debate with McCain. Mission accomplished, I would say.

You're right, he broke his promise to close GITMO.

Anthony| 5.11.11 @ 11:11AM

One calculated throw away line during a debate does not a policy make. Chief double tongue made many comments to the contray, or you'd be in high dungeon.
Mission Accomplished, eh? You mean like the "Arab Street" being mollified over Osama's death because Obozo has disclaimed the enhanced interrogation techniques that led to Osama?
Mission Accomplished, because Obozo authorized the double tap on Osama's head, but assures the world that interrogation techniques are illegal?
This is classic lefty logic that calls a fetus an unviable tissue mass, on the one hand, but allows for the prosecution for a double murder of a pregnant woman.
You lefties must keep your brains in the same lock box that contains all our Social Security trust money.

DRed| 5.11.11 @ 7:10PM

Obama mentioned that he was going to have Osama killed more than once before he was elected. You claim he made 'many comments to the contrary'. Can you point some of those out to me? Seems like the proof is in the pudding-Obama said he was going to have Osama killed if he got the chance, and now he's dead. Q.E.D.

Michael Tomlinson| 5.11.11 @ 10:16AM

Killing Muslim terrorists armed or unarmed is ALWAYS a good thing – the more the better.

Breaking news out of DC is that Obama is going to begin outreach to the Muslim world in the wake of the justified killing of a Muslim fundamentalist. How many times will he bow to a Muslim despot and how many male Muslim a***s will he kiss? Man love Thursday must be his favorite day of the week.

PJ| 5.11.11 @ 10:31AM

"Tell me, it ain't so!"

PJ| 5.11.11 @ 10:33AM

That is "Breaking news out of DC is that Obama is going to begin outreach to the Muslim world in the wake of the justified killing of a Muslim fundamentalist. "

Insight| 5.11.11 @ 11:11AM

Some of you republicans are sick in the head. The president, CIA and our military did a great job. More importantly the president did in fact campaign on pulling troops out of Iraq and focusing more on Afghanistan so Bin Laden can be captured or KILLED. Mission accomplished!

The more vile nonsense you guys spill the more ignorant you look.

W| 5.11.11 @ 11:53AM

The military and CIA did a great job. obama just gave the order. he had no choice but to give the order once he had the intel about osama's location, and the plan to kill him. had he not given the order, his failure (like clinton) would have been leaked, especially by HILLARY, and his chance for re-election and possibly re-nomination would have been diminished.
as for obama concentrating on the war, give us some specific acts he took to concentrate on osama. read Woodward's book, Obama Wars. when obama took office he requested a review of the wars. his reviewer was give ONE hour to brief obama on a plane ride to los angeles for obama to do the jay leno show. after leno, obama went to a couple of hollywood parties. on the flight back obama spent FIVE hours watching basketball games.
there is absolutely not discussion in the book about obama doing anything about osama.if you have info that woodward does not have, please share it.

Dan Hirsch| 5.11.11 @ 11:43AM

We should view this the like those climbing Mt. Everest. Other people lay out the easiest path. Guides take you step by step. Local people carry most of the stuff you're going to need-and carry out your trash. You camp in camps others have set up and maintain. Blind guys have done it.

Or maybe we should look at it like sinking a 6" putt on a flat, level, slow green. You just got to hit it hard enough. It's not like making a hole in one on a windy, gusty day.

Or maybe it's like making a free throw in basketball practice. It's not like making a three-pointer double-teamed with the clock at 0:00.1.

Okay, so Obama gave the right answer. Bill Clinton is still explaining why he gave the wrong answer, TWICE.

Obama needed 16 hours to sleep on the final decision. What could he possibly need to consider for 16 hrs. Bin Laden MURDERED 3,000 innocent civilians because they were Americans. Bin Laden had been working on it for a decade and he was working on doing it again for another decade. So Obama needs 16 hours to 'sleep on it?' What in God's name would take 16 hrs of thought. A week later he says he didn't lose any sleep over it. Boy, he must have been really tired! What a maroon this guy Obama is.

I could imagine President Reagan responding to the news, "Mr. President, we found bin Laden." with "Well, isn't he dead yet?"

We should look at this as Obama finally showing up for work and making the easiest of decisions and then running around spiking every football in sight - sending the a manager to the equipment room to get more footballs to spike.

Do we really need to compliment him for taking out the trash? Good grief.

We ought to be demanding his time cards showing when he has actually been working.

Richard Baker| 5.11.11 @ 12:41PM

Remember what Dirty Harry said, "Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot." In bin Laden's case, I'm with Dirty Harry.

gary siebel| 5.11.11 @ 1:44PM

More than likely, deep in your conservative hearts, you are upset by the killing of a conservative religious figure.

That would also explain why objections to the 9/11 mosque have all but disappeared from conservative commentators -- you just like conservatives, whoever and wherever they are found.

Or perhaps it is just because you are wimps... LOL

Doctor Right| 5.11.11 @ 1:54PM

And the winner of this year's most inane, idiotic TASOnline post goes to....

(Drumroll........)

GARY SIEBEL!!

Anthony| 5.11.11 @ 2:52PM

Whoa, Dr. Right, you are soooo right. This guy is insane!!
Being learned in the medical arts, could you cxplain to us laypersons how the death of the "conservative" Osama has quieted us on the Ground Zero Mosque?
What drugs do you currently proscribe for this condition that plagues Mr. Siebel? Or more to the point, what drugs did Mr. Siebel take that has caused this brain disorder?

Occam's Tool| 5.11.11 @ 2:56PM

By the way, the Ground Zero Mosque is a CRAPPY idea. I've had a few things on my mind, Gary.

By the way, Anthony, as a Board certified psychiatrist, let me just say---we can improve memory (Aricept) and Concentration (Strattera), but nothing fixes stupid.

simon templar| 5.11.11 @ 1:58PM

Yeah, bin Laden was a conservative. My god, once again you have proven beyond a doubt that liberalism is a mental disorder...or at least your kool aid useful idiot version of it. So, now we are wimps..hmmm...I thought we were warmongers..can not make up your mind..what am I saying you do not have one?

Occam's Tool| 5.11.11 @ 2:56PM

WTF?

LoboRasa| 5.11.11 @ 4:13PM

Actually, Gary, I'm upset about that nasty oxygen habit you have there.

Thom| 5.11.11 @ 6:02PM

It is somewhat a natural reaction for people without strong convictions on the matter of “war” to feel an unease about what appears to be an event that far too many people don’t have the facts on and have never walked in the shoes of those they now wish to second guess….

Admiral Yamamoto accomplished the same results on Dec 7th, 1941 as OBL but unlike OBL he wore a uniform and operated under an honor code that would be alien to the likes of OBLs and his followers. Yamamoto was unarmed when he was killed too in effect. His Betty bomber while armed and escorted by armed fighters had no chance at all against the flight of P-38s sent to shoot it down.

Had OBL been taken out by an expert sniper from say 2500 yards who then lived to tell the truth would we be having this conversation? Same deal for a Reaper strike? If OBLs compound had been heavily booby trapped or defended inside the houses and our Seal Team took heavy causalities would we even be concerned about OBLs fate at this point? Like many of the infamous gangsters from the 30s who swore to not be taken alive OBL was already on record as saying he would not be taken alive and like Bonnie and Clyde to just mention two he got the same wish they got.

Ultimately this question boils down to what orders the Seal Team was given and what discretion they had on the ground with said orders. The overwhelming bulk of the US population will never know what the details of those orders were with any certainty but I will eventually know with some certainty. The truth won’t change my convictions on “war”.

We should all be grateful OBL wasn’t living within sight of the White House these last 5-6 years…..

Onceasoldier| 5.11.11 @ 9:58PM

Obama is an opportunist not a person to be trusted. For saying this I am a racist.

Dee See| 5.12.11 @ 1:43AM

Decades stale sideshow concerns.

Meanwhile, as the country's been hijacked
and about to be dismantled at the behest of
off-shore banks ---AND as the greatest 'EUGENICS friendly' world
nuclear disaster in human history is unmentioned
---immediate RETRO-active IMPEACHMENT
of our past 4 globalist front/CFR/RIIA set-up administrations.

------And for the 'atheists' among you

"Ye old, ye ugly ---put on the mantel of
the sublime."
-Nietzche

---------------WAKE UP!!!!!!

DonW| 5.12.11 @ 9:39AM

Conservatives would be proud if Obama killed OBL for our Constitutional Republic and our freedoms. But with ObamaCare, FinReg, defiance of three Federal Judge rulings, attempts to cripple private sector oil drilling and unsustainable spending; we know in our hearts that he is not looking out for the American people. He is looking out for I, me, my and mine and his statist power.

C Smith| 5.12.11 @ 11:36AM

For a almost a decade the world has been asking: "Where is Osama"? Now the world is asking every other question but "Where is Osama now"?

Under our feet this very moment is a subterranean world. The Hebrew Scriptures refer to it as the pit, the abyss, the nether parts of the earth, Abaddon.... No, it is not Hell. Hell is not yet. The Judgment must come first. The name of this present shadow land is called Sheol. And within it a place reserved for those who "caused terror in the land of the living."

"Asshur is there and all her company... all of them slain, fallen by the sword... which caused terror in the land of the living" (Ezekiel 32:22-23).

"There is Elam and all her multitude... fallen by the sword, which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living" (Ezekiel 32:24).

There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude... they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen... which are gone down to Sheol with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living" (Ezekiel 32:26-27).

There is Edom, her kings, and all her princes, which with their might are laid by them that were slain by the sword: they shall lie with the uncircumcised, and with them that go down to the pit" (Ezekiel 32:29).

"There be the princes of the north... with their terror they are ashamed of their might; and they lie uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword...." (Ezekiel 32:30).

"Sheol from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? Thy pomp is brought down to Sheol, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee" (Isaiah 14:9-11).

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