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The Nation's Pulse
Herman Cain and the Outsiders
South Carolina debate highlights divide between GOP Greasers and Socials.
“They’re not scared of you, they’re scared of what you represent….freedom.” — Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider
Did you ever notice how much Herman Cain looks like Peter Fonda?
That would be Fonda in his role as Easy Rider’s “Captain America.” Roaring off into the horizon on his red, white and blue custom built motorcycle — an American flag on the back of his jacket, a matching helmet strapped to the bike? While Born to Be Wild thunders in the background?
Doesn’t the Godfather’s Pizza CEO look just like the late actor Patrick Swayze getting ready to lead the Greasers in a rumble with the Socials in The Outsiders?
Surely you can see Herman Cain as separated at birth from George C. Scott as Patton?
No? Take another look. A good look. Because what you are seeing with Mr. Cain is an American classic.
The Outsider.
Powerful in concept — and even more potent as reality.
And more to the point: The Outsider is totally, utterly an American phenomenon.
To understand why a Frank Luntz focus group was wowed by Herman Cain (as seen in this clip from Sean Hannity’s TV show) and Rick Santorum during the recent South Carolina GOP/Fox debate, why the surging poll numbers for Donald Trump or the now enduring popularity of Sarah Palin, the potential for upset that lies in Iowa with a Michele Bachmann, the fanatic applause for Ron Paul and ongoing fascination with Newt Gingrich is to understand one very important fact about America. A fact that lies at the heart of American politics, culture, heroes, and an entire way of life — indeed a fact about the heart of America itself.
America is a nation of Outsiders.
You could be talking Georges — Washington or W or Patton. Movies or magazine editors, whether Fonda and pals Jack Nicholson and Dennis Hopper
in Easy Rider or Sylvester Stallone as Rocky or National Review’s William F. Buckley Jr. (here squaring off with the wonderfully illustrative liberal elitism of Gore Vidal who loftily proclaims — doubtless correctly — that his views on Vietnam are shared by Western Europe even if they happen “to be a novelty in Chicago.” Oh yes, Buckley also shoots back at a poisonous Vidal that “I will sock you in the goddamn face.” Outsider versus Insider doesn’t get better than this exchange).
Sports? From boxing’s Muhammad Ali (here reading his poem “I am the Greatest” while still Cassius Clay) to baseball’s George Steinbrenner, Outsiders have always been — and are right now — found everywhere in America. Real estate? Here’s you-know-who firing away. The business of pizza? This Cain takedown of Bill Clinton has become a classic all by itself.
The point is made fresh yet again by the success of the crew from the current hit Disney movie Lemonade Mouth, taken from a novel of the same name by Mark Peter Hughes. The plot? A group of — yes, Outsiders — meet in high school detention and form a rock band to signal their displeasure with the school power structure and its “Establishment” kids. The film has rocketed its stars and their music and message (“Be Heard! Be Strong! Be Proud!”) into the spotlight with America’s tweens predictably going nuts over the whole thing.
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Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.
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SP Gordon | 5.10.11 @ 6:46AM
Fabulous piece! I am an outsider's outsider - A single female conservative public school teacher who is an ardent Herman Cain supporter. My question is - why do the outsider Fox News and the outsider Sean Hannity and the outsider Bill O'reilly and the insiders Chris Wallace, Brit Hume, Karl Rove, Dick Morris Juan Williams - you get my drift - why do they fail to even mention Herman Cain when discussing Presidential hopefuls. From what I understand Sean Hannity skipped him AGAIN last night, even though Mr Cain subs for him sometimes on his radio show. The answer - they have all become insiders who are just doing "Outsider speak". That's why Glenn Beck was so refreshing and will be missed. I can almost predict the dialogue on the Fox shows now and am near to stopping watching TV news at all.
SP Gordon | 5.10.11 @ 6:47AM
PS- when they do mention him - they seem surprised at his success (as in Wallace's after the show show on Sunday. We are not surprised. I believe that Herman Cain was born "for such a time as this".
Kishego| 5.10.11 @ 4:32PM
Indeed, he is a man from Issacar. Herman "Understands the times and knows what to do"
crooked wren| 5.10.11 @ 9:22AM
SP Gordon -- I am so happy to hear that you are in the public school system. Thank Heaven for you.
As to the article, I just watched the clip of Cain taking on Clinton. Marvelous!
SonOfSam| 5.10.11 @ 1:00PM
Amen to that Crooked Wren: as a public school computer science teacher, I am often appalled at the level of ObamaNazi ignorance being peddled by people who ought to know better. Perhaps that's why I like computers so much: they're truly allergic to bullshit
btw, I was planning on backing Sarah Palin, but if she doesn't get a move on, I will be jumping on board with Herman Cain
mames| 5.10.11 @ 2:49PM
And from a racial perspective would it not have been much sweeter to have a Cain as first black president rather than a traitor like Obama?
Mr Cain is in the most maligned group in America a Black conservative constitutionalist.
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 3:56PM
Cain would be a fantastic President. So would Allen West.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:58PM
Another Turncoat RINO-CINO.
"Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), who had emerged as an outspoken conservative voice among GOP freshmen, cast a surprising vote last week against a bill to scrap part of the 2010 healthcare overhaul. The legislation would repeal $100 million in funding for the construction of school-based health centers. West was one of just four Republicans to vote against the measure, which passed 235-191."
Warrior | 5.10.11 @ 5:32PM
West is the real deal. You are taking the vote out of context.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 5:39PM
Explain West's Vote Against Scrapping Part of The 2010 Health Scam, if you would Warrior.
victor| 5.10.11 @ 9:24PM
Why don't you do it for us?
You are ever so much more clever than we, eh?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 11:26PM
Do Your Own Homework Fat Lazy Ass Apocalyptic Crank Dude-Dudess Israel Firster Fanatic Victor-Margie-Margie-Victor-VicMar-Marvic-Margie .
Warrior | 5.10.11 @ 11:13PM
It's not all that difficult to read his explanation. He questions the strategy at chipping away at the law after he's already voted for the laws repeal. He stated there are bigger issues to tackle than to continue presenting these bills that are DOA in the Senate. Disagreeing with his tactics or his stance on this issue is fine, but to simply dismiss him because of one vote is ridiculous.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 11:24PM
Warrior, read about Cain's Positions: For The Bailout Scam, Against Auditing The FED, For Propping Up Big Banking With The "Too Big To Fail" Scam.
If You Want To Support Cain, Support Him.
As A Tea Party Patriot, I won't Be Supporting Cain.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Warrior | 5.11.11 @ 10:40AM
We are talking about West not Cain. Keep your candidates straight.
victor| 5.13.11 @ 1:23AM
Remember, folks such as Allan West and Herman Cain all look alike to the likes of Clint and his tribe.
Jackie Smoot| 5.20.11 @ 12:22AM
Oh geez another Ron Paul lunatic. We all know who the only person you could ever support is.
I wish somebody would show up at RP events and hand out economics textbooks.
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 11:39PM
Don't you get it, Warrior? Clinty-poo cannot stomach real conservatives. Because real conservatives aren't anti-war and anti-semites.
It's honest truth. It doesn't go along with his perverted mindset.
Clint| 5.11.11 @ 12:13AM
The RINO- CINO Israel Firster Fanatic Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie wants You to Support This Guy:
"Herman Cain is a past President of the Kansas City Federal Reserve but he is also a member of the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), a Security and Properity Partnership (SPP) steering group which none other then Glenn Beck revealed in 2007 with his big selling An Inconvenient Book (which was sadly skeptical at the time, but now he gets it) working towards making North America the most powerful continent in the world: the North American Union."
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Warrior | 5.11.11 @ 10:52AM
Clint or Tim is a broken record. I for one would like open discussion. I like Ron Paul if for no other reason than he stands by his beliefs and convictions. Margie, I know you do not like Ron Paul, and that needs to be respected. I disagree with much of what is written about these candidates because many people only regurgitate what the read on blogs or what Rush or Levin said on the radio.
The problem with Conservatives today is that we/they are becoming as closed minded as liberals. Instead of reading and learning about Allen West, Michelle Bachmann or Ron Paul, they find a snippet or talking point and attack the person. Santorum is a big government "R"epublican. Just look at his voting record over many years and read what he supports. Yet this site would have you believe that he is closer to Reagan when in actuality he is ruling class closer to McCain/Graham.
Margie| 5.11.11 @ 9:41PM
Clint/Tim* is worse than just a broken record. So far he is on his way to Hell.
He is a despicable liar, who does as the Bible warns about: He calls good evil and evil good.
He would not know a decent man if he were to trip over one.
"For there is no truth in their mouth; their heart is destruction, their throat is an open sepulchre, they flatter with their tongue.
Make them bear their guilt, O God; let them fall by their own counsels; because of their many transgressions cast them out, for they have rebelled against Thee." Ps. 5:9 & 10.
Warrior,
I truly think that you give the American people less credit than they deserve when you say that they simply regurgitate what they hear from Rush and Levin.
The listeners to those men are the ones who DO use their own brains. We just happen to be in agreement.
The ones who don't use their brains, or are blinded by such hatred for their fellow men (and women) are the Paulbots who are mostly anti-war and and anti-Israel.
It's a cult mentality, much like Catholicism~ and they will kill you with hatred if you speak out in truth against the lies of both.
Margie| 5.11.11 @ 9:44PM
Explain why you're such a miserable anti-semite and sleazebag.
wodiej| 5.11.11 @ 6:04AM
How can you take a vote out of context-it's yes or no.
Warrior | 5.11.11 @ 10:46AM
If you do not want to understand the facts that surround a subject, then I guess you have the right to remain ignorant. Give me your choice for a candidate and I will find a yes or no vote that can be politicized.
C.K. Amos| 5.10.11 @ 10:13PM
Cain will be the first black president, in the tradition of African-American lineage that Obama does not possess.
Obama is a first generation bi-racial of American and Kenyan heritage.
What's interesting, actually, in my opinion, disgusting, is that the black community now parades the one-drop theory regarding any person of mixed lineage--and that was started by the slave owners in pre-Civil-War America so they could claim more slaves, as slaves.
Also, what the Progressive Party conveniently forgets that it, as the Democrat Party, was the slave party. And after the Civil War, it instigated the creation of the domestic terrorist KKK, which killed black and white Americans who allied themselves with the fledgling Republican Party.
That same Democrat Party opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, with the late Robert C. Byrd filibustering for more than 20 hours. But for the Republicans, Democrat Lyndon Johnson would not have been able to get the bill passed.
Not to forget, either, is that the DixieCrats were the southern Democrats who split over the issue of civil rights.
Yes, indeed, something of which Obama and those blacks who blindly vote for Democrats should be proud.
As for Cain's misalignment, the Progressive (Democrat) Party and the liberals and leftists attached to it--and that includes the puppet media--do not and cannot allow any conservative black person to exist.
Already, the malice has started in the blogosphere calling Cain "the pizza salesman."
We must not just push back at this loathesomeness, but must crush these morally ambiguous, emotionally immature and intellectually bankrupt Progressives.
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 11:35PM
Thank you, sir. Excellently stated!!
Clint| 5.11.11 @ 12:23AM
Watch Out !
The RINO-CINO's are Trying To Sell Ya A Lemon.
Herman Cain also wrote an article about how it wouldn't be all bad, in fact beneficial for the government to nationalize the banking system.
Margie| 5.11.11 @ 9:29PM
The only thing the above punk ever sells is Ron Paul lunacy, anti-semitism and vile human excrement.
And the sickest thing about it?
Many here agree with IT.
wodiej| 5.11.11 @ 6:04AM
After the havoc Obama has caused I don't see another black president for some time.
Minuteman| 5.12.11 @ 6:22PM
It is ironic that Cain could claim to be the first native born African American President since Obama could be considered one of the British born Presidents.
W| 5.10.11 @ 4:36PM
o'reilly is an insider.
Dai Alanye | 5.10.11 @ 5:10PM
Cain is an excellent motivational speaker. Does that remind us of anyone else? Dare I mention… B Hussein Obama?
The problem with Herman lies in the area of policy, in that once outside the economic area he seems not to have any, depending instead upon some kind of decision-making "process."
I'm hesitant to turn over this nation to someone whose main accomplishment has been keeping afloat one mediocre company. Heck, Romney has done that many times, and we sure don't want him.
No, let Herman serve in government somewhere. Perhaps he can start as a city councilman, then move on up to mayor. Later he can get himself appointed to a regulatory board, and perhaps run for governor of a small state. If he does well enough he can be considered for Vice President, and finally have a hope of higher office.
Yeah, someone like that--that's who we need.
Warrior | 5.10.11 @ 5:38PM
Finally, a voice of reason.
C.K. Amos| 5.10.11 @ 11:18PM
Cain is qualified now.
A mathematician who worked six years with the Department of the Navy, a successful businessman and wildly popular radio-talk-show host and public speaker, he's got the intelligence, integrity, work ethic, love of America and foundation in its culture, real-world experience, understanding of capitalism, charisma and drive to unite rather than divide people, and inspirational leadership skills missing from the current White House occupant.
Cain's also got the sense to use advisers where he lacks the experience or knowledge.
He had a successful career at Coca-Cola Company, then moved to the Pillsbury Company, where he became a vice president.
He resigned that position to pursue a career in the restaurant industry. He flipped hamburgers at Pillsbury’s Burger King division to get experience. Then, as a regional manager in a low-performing regions having 450 Burger King outlets, within three years, he turned that region into the best-performing region in the America.
He then became CEO and President of Godfather’s Pizza, when bankruptcy could have occurred. Fourteen months later, he and his team led the company out of red ink to black ink.
Then, with his leadership, he and his team bought Godfather’s Pizza. The company never went bankrupt. It's still operating today with hundreds of locations.
His Godfather's Pizza success later led to Cain being chosen to the Board of Directors of the National Restaurant Association, then to the CEO post. That gave him even more experience with small businesses and entrepreneurs.
Next, he served on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, later being elected as its chairman.
This guy's the real deal, something that makes him a threat to the ruling class of both the Republican Party and the Progressive Party, as well as the puppet media.
I suggest he's a prime candidate to be the Republican candidate. However, I believe his heart is conservative and Tea Party.
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 11:36PM
And again, thank you.
And a hearty Amen.
wodiej| 5.11.11 @ 6:09AM
I agree. He's a great speaker but running a pizza place does not make someone presidential. The Nicholson quote more describes Gov. Sarah Palin than anyone else. She is the one constantly attacked, insulted, threatened. She is the one who traveled the country helping elect real conservatives in the 2010 mid terms. She is the one who has been taking all the slings and arrows and still stands strong for the American people. She's the one who showed real servant leadership by traveling to Alabama and helping w storm clean up and praying with victims while others thought standing on a stage in a suit was more important.
Americans better wake up.
RKJ| 5.11.11 @ 1:14AM
Herman Cain is an ex-Chief of the Federal Reserve branch of Kansas City and an enthusiastic cheerleader for TARP. Why would anyone not in banking or on Wall Street support him if they knew his background?
D| 5.10.11 @ 7:13AM
Herman Cain understands and has had success in both business and government, he is a proven leader, he is likeable and charismatic, and he is a good communicator. I'm sure he is not perfect, but he has all of the qualities that the chattering class says a president must have. And yet, they dismiss him as a fringe candidate and call the poor populace who was inspired by his performance a bunch of dimwits. The Establishment is working itself toward becoming the Fringe and I hope they learn it the hard way.
Mimi| 5.10.11 @ 7:17AM
Wow Jeff...You knocked this one out of the park!!!
You really chalked one up for the "little guy". More than one of those guys on that stage at that first debate will rise to the top tier...because they brought to the fore whats on the MIND of the people...they were not a timid bunch....refreshing !
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 7:27AM
Herman Cain was the former chief of the Kansas City Reserve Bank.
Inquiring Conservatives need to ask Cain's positions on The Federal Bailout And Auditing The FED, for starters.
simon templar| 5.10.11 @ 9:33AM
Inguiring left wing trolls need to look into their masters associations and connections with domestic terrorists, anti-American ministers, corrupt publicly funded community organizations, communist mentors, and radical left wing teachers. For starters.
Dan Hirsch| 5.10.11 @ 9:44AM
Simon!
Clint just said 'take a look at Cain.' He didn't even use an exclamation mark. The activities of the Federal Reserve system are clearly of some serious concern - they are leading the attack on the US dollar. Mr. Cain should be considered based on his activities at the Fed - his not being indicted or forced out (which I don't think he was...) do not constitute sufficient knowledge about Mr. Cain's performance there.
Your response to Clint with cries of "Troll!" smacks of emotional, irrational troll-like behavior.
If you know something about Mr. Cain's performance at the Fed tell us - otherwise don't spit at your fellows. It does not help anybody!
Sheesh. Manners, people, manners!
simon templar| 5.10.11 @ 10:19AM
I have been reading Clint's posting for quite some time now and this is just one of many smarmy, non-conservative remarks he has made. He is not a fellow..fellow traveler perhaps. Sure, check it out..but has Clint? No, he shoots his mouth off like most trolls lobbing these verbal molotov cocktails. This site is ripe with them..half of the time pretending to be conservatives and the other half just making ignorant, childish, smarmy liberal talking points. Manners? Sure for those that respect them, for the others a sock in the mouth as Buckley put it so well.
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 3:58PM
Simon, once again you refresh my faith in humanity, sir.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:02PM
Let's see Ya try to give me a sock in the mouth Simon.
Obviously, You don't know me, Squirrel.
You won't hear the man count ten Pussy Mouth.
I'm a Registered Republican and an active Tea Party Patriot,with The Valley Forger Patriots.
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 4:06PM
I always like the way you resort to violence, Clint.
It doesn't change the fact that you are a terrorist catamite.
Dan, I think you see Simon's point, now. Manners, my tush with Clint.
And Clint, it wouldn't be me punching you. You I would leave to my seven year old.
Dan Hirsch| 5.10.11 @ 4:48PM
Roger that, simon, occam.
I still see a need for info on Mr. Caine's tenure at the Fed. Don't you agree?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 5:13PM
We attempt to counter-punch smear attacks on Our Tea Party candidates.
These RINO-CINO Agendists attempt to smear many of We,Tea Party Patriots, Our Tea Party Co-Favorite Dr. Ron Paul & Our Tea Party Senator from Kentucky Dr. Rand Paul because We won't Asskiss Their Israel Firster Agenda.
We Will Not Allow These Agendists to carry out their Smear Campaign on One Of Our Tea Party Presidential Candidates.
"Ron Paul hauled more than $1 million just on Thursday via a debate-day money bomb.
Paul’s presidential exploratory committee alerted his supporters to the 24-hour online fundraising via email and social networks and were able to sit back and watch $1,028,436.56 roll in.
The successful money bomb capped off a big day for Paul’s camp, as he attended a tea party rally ahead of the presidential debate and was shown to run stronger against Barack Obama than any other candidate in an new CNN/Opinion Research poll.
Thursday’s money bomb is already Paul’s second major one-day fundraiser of the 2012 campaign. Paul brought in more than $700,000 for his PAC in February, helping jack his fundraising stats for the first quarter in which he hauled $3 million for his various political organizations…"
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
RCV| 5.10.11 @ 5:28PM
Your "tea-party King-maker" Senator DeMint lashed out at your "tea party favorite" Ron Paul after the debate. Which side are you choosing, Clint?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 5:44PM
ObamaBoy RCV,
"After the debate, Sen. Jim DeMint, whose endorsement is the most eagerly sought-after of any in South Carolina, refused to comment on any individual candidate’s performance. DeMint said he would have preferred to hear more from the candidates about the deficit and the current debt ceiling argument. But everyone knows that DeMint’s endorsement, if he chooses to make one, will be extremely important in the race, and this debate did not move him to say anything good about any particular candidate."
RCV| 5.10.11 @ 6:48PM
He was quoted after the debate as sharply disagreeing with Ron Paul's comments on heroin legalization and gay marriage.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 7:10PM
Ron Paul was talking about States Rights, & States deciding such matters. I have No Problem with States Rights.
Our Tea Party Co-Favorite Dr.Ron Paul is running against Obama, Our Tea Party Senator from South Carolina Chose Not to run against Obama.
"Ron Paul hauled more than $1 million just on Thursday via a debate-day money bomb.
Paul’s presidential exploratory committee alerted his supporters to the 24-hour online fundraising via email and social networks and were able to sit back and watch $1,028,436.56 roll in.
The successful money bomb capped off a big day for Paul’s camp, as he attended a tea party rally ahead of the presidential debate and was shown to run stronger against Barack Obama than any other candidate in an new CNN/Opinion Research poll.
Thursday’s money bomb is already Paul’s second major one-day fundraiser of the 2012 campaign. Paul brought in more than $700,000 for his PAC in February, helping jack his fundraising stats for the first quarter in which he hauled $3 million for his various political organizations…"
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 8:26PM
Clint Paul:
"I have No Problem with States Rights on heroin legalization and gay marriage and medical marijuana and euthanasia and prostitution and inter generational same sex relationships and prostitution or anything along those lines."
victor| 5.10.11 @ 8:27PM
This is my post to clint:
Clint Paul:
"I have No Problem with States Rights on heroin legalization and gay marriage and medical marijuana and euthanasia and prostitution and inter generational same sex relationships and prostitution or anything along those lines."
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 8:41PM
There Ya Go !
Apparently. Israel Firster Fanatic Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie Is Victor-Margie.
What Part of States Rights Don't Ya Grasp RINO-CINO Victor-Margie ?
victor| 5.10.11 @ 8:37PM
Inside the GOP debate: Pawlenty underwhelms, Cain struggles, Santorum scores
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent Follow Him @ByronYork
"After the debate, Sen. Jim DeMint, whose endorsement is the most eagerly sought-after of any in South Carolina, refused to comment on any individual candidate’s performance. DeMint said he would have preferred to hear more from the candidates about the deficit and the current debt ceiling argument. But everyone knows that DeMint’s endorsement, if he chooses to make one, will be extremely important in the race, and this debate did not move him to say anything good about any particular candidate."
Stealing again, eh Clint?
Without citation?
Making us think that you are wise?
Shame, shame, shame.
http://nhpoliticaltrough.com/2.....ay-7-2011/
That will be
5 Hail Mary's
10 Our Fathers and
1 Glory be.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 8:45PM
Let's see Ya Dispute what was stated , Israel Firster Fanatic Apocalyptic Crank Man Victor-Margie.
We always notice You attempt to divert attention to punctuation & spelling when You got nothin'.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 8:50PM
Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie Got an Ax To Grind With Catholics & A Fanatic Israel Firster Agenda.
Now, tell all The American Spectator Readers where You say Practicing Jews & Muslims Go, when they die, Joisey Fat Ass Nazi Broad.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 5:17PM
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan
victor| 5.10.11 @ 9:19PM
Ron Paul ain't nuthin'.
Anyone who believes that the Terrorists are Terrorists because of us is nuthin' but Looney Tunes.
Ben STEIN: Well, that's -- I have never heard anything quite like that in my whole life. What he's saying, basically, is we are doing something wrong by defending ourselves. Look, if these terrorists are trying to kill the government of Yemen, we've got to help defend them. They're our friends. We can't just let al Qaeda run wild. If we try to stop them --
Ron PAUL: Why?
Ben STEIN: Why should we stop them? Because they are terrorists and murderers and they're very anti-American.
Ron PAUL: Why are they terrorists?
Ben STEIN: Surely congressman --
Ron PAUL: Why are they terrorists?
Ben STEIN: They're terrorists and murders because they are psychos.
Ron PAUL: They're terrorists because we're occupiers.
Ben STEIN: No, we're not occupiers. That's the same anti-Semitic argument we've heard.
Ron PAUL: Now that is a vicious attack. You --
Ben STEIN: It's not a vicious attack.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 9:52PM
"Michael Scheuer, the former head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, has weighed in on the controversy surrounding the Republican Presidential debate held Tuesday May 15, when Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) stated that American foreign policy was a “contributing factor” in the 9/11 attacks.
“They attack us because we’ve been over there; we’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years.” Paul said. He was then denounced by former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani who said it was “absurd” and that he’d “never” heard such a thing before demanding a retraction.
In an interview with Antiwar.com’s Antiwar Radio on May 18, Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World – because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”
Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."
simon templar| 5.10.11 @ 9:02PM
Yes, check everyone out to be sure about them and put any doubts to rest.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 9:47PM
Yeah Pussy, We Tea Party Patriots Are Checking Out RINO-CINO Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Pussies, Who's Mouths Write Checks, Their Body's Can't Cash.
Other Real Tea Party Candidates,Like Jim DeMint Ain't Running.
I'll match my Conservative Republican Credentials against Yours Anytime Punk Ass.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:53PM
It doesn't change the fact that you're a fixated Israel Firster Fanatic & A Goat Humper, Tool Job.
You got more than manners up your "tush", Israel Firster Fanatic Tool Job.
You got a bad habit of sending others, like Our American Warriors to fight for Your Fanatic Israel Firster Agenda. & Your Boy to do your Fighting For You.
If Your Pussy Son makes me defend myself. I'll give him an attitude adjustment.
mames| 5.10.11 @ 2:52PM
The Fed connection is a serious problem that deserves clarification. If Cain supports this inst. I could never vote for him as much as I like him now. The Fed is the greatest internal enemy of this country. not federal and not a reserve
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 3:58PM
Dan, have you ever reviewed the majority of Clint's posts?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:04PM
You're also a Pavlovian Slobbering Anti-Catholic Worldclass Asshat ,who never misses a chance to start bashing Our Catholic Church.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:05PM
The above was for Dr. Reich.
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 4:07PM
Not true, and not me, scumbag.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:39PM
Already addressed & answered above Israel Firster Assface, Tool Job.
Get Bent, You Sorry-assed, self help Walking Neurotic, pill pushing Government Excuse for a Shrink.
Doctor Right| 5.10.11 @ 8:00PM
LOL!
Whenever Clint REALLY wants to try and insult someone, he usually uses sexual innuendo, most of it involving the word "ass" (especially when he gets frosty with other men).
Clint, were you kicked out of Seminary for frotting?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 8:24PM
Laughing Louder !
They Call Dr.Reich "Pecker Breath" at The Hermann Goering Chapter Of Nazi's Are Us.
Dr. Reich Bobs Stoops For Low Hanging Fruit .
victor| 5.10.11 @ 9:21PM
rumours are that "Clint" is a defrocked priest.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 9:58PM
Rumors are that RINO-CINO Victor-Margie-Margie-Victor-is a Neo-Chickenhawk Coward, Who Wants American Warriors To do His/Her/It's Israel Firster Agenda Fighting For He/She/It.
victor| 5.13.11 @ 1:25AM
Notice that Clint will never explain why he is so sympathetic to child molesting priests and other perverts.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:09PM
I respond to Israel Firster Tool Job's posts, mostly, Tool Job has a fixation onWe.Tea party Patriots,who with Tea Party Co-Favorite Dr. Ron Paul & Tea Party Senator Dr. Rand Paul don't asskiss these Israel Firsters agenda.
America First.
Americans will again vote their wallets in the 2012 Elections.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Dai Alanye | 5.10.11 @ 5:16PM
Clint seems to be bringing out the worst in plenty of posters. I think we should demand to see his birth certificate, and some documentation to prove he didn't vote for Obama in 2008.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 6:07PM
I bring out the worst in RINO-CINO's Israel Firster's, Who got a Fixation against Our Tea Party Co-Favorite Candidate Dr. Ron Paul.
I wrote in a protest vote for my Brother-in Law.
Obama is an Affirmative Action Peter Principle Alinskyite & John McCain is a Serial Traitor to Conservatism, McCain-Feingold, Lieberman, Kennedy, Gang of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts of 2001 & 2003 ,Tarp.
Now, let's see your birth certificate & proof you didn't vote for Obama in 2008.
victor| 5.10.11 @ 9:11PM
clintywinty:
"I wrote in a protest vote for my Brother-in Law."
I also encouraged as many others to do the same, thereby ensuring the election of
Barack Hussein Obama!
MMM-mmm-mmm!
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 9:37PM
RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agenda Fanatic Victor-Margie-Margie-Victor-Victor-Margie:
" I Voted in The GOP Joisey Super Tuesday GOP Primary & The General Election for The Serial Traitor to Conservatism John McCain of McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy. Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003, Tarp & I encouraged Others to Vote For This Serial Traitor To Conservatism,because I'm An Israel Firster Traitor Bitch."
victor| 5.13.11 @ 1:27AM
Clint pretends to be dumber than a box of rocks, but he probably helped plan the liberals swamp the open primaries in the winter spring of 2008, eh Clinty?
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 4:08PM
Dear Simon,
you mean, like, Ron Paul and StormFront?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:27PM
Fixated Israel Firster Fanatic Toll Job attempts another smear job on Our tea Party Co-Favorite Dr.Ron Paul.
Do Your Homework Israel Firster Agendist, Tool Job.
Back in 2007, a guy named Don Black gave a $ 500 Dollar Unsolicited Campaign Donation to Ron Paul's Campaign in which Donations of $ Millions by Thousands of People flooded into Campaign Headquarters.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
victor| 5.10.11 @ 9:13PM
Clint/Timmy*:
"a guy named Don Black"
Some guy named Don Black?
Which guy named Don Black?
One of these guys named Don Black?
Don Black (white nationalist), racist campaigner
Don Black (lyricist), English lyricist
Don Black (baseball), baseball player for the Cleveland Indians and Philadelphia Athletics
One of these Guys named Don Black is not like the other guys named Don Black, is he?
Donald Black (born July 28, 1953) is an American white nationalist. He is the founder, and current webmaster, of the Stormfront internet forum. He was a Grand Wizard in the Ku Klux Klan and a member of the American Nazi Party in the 1970s. He was convicted in 1981 for attempted armed overthrow of the Dominican government in violation of the U.S. Neutrality Act.
That Donald Black?
Gave money to RON PAUL?!?
Yeah, that Donald Black!
Now a more important question:
Did RON PAUL ever give the money back?
Amos 3:3
"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"
Did Bill Clinton give back money from the Russian Mafia?
Did Barack Obama give money back from palestinian terrorists?
Did Ron Paul give back money from White Nationalists?
The answer is not blowin' in the wind, but plain as the nose on your face:
NO!
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 10:02PM
Asked & Answered Traitor Bitch/Bastard Victor-Margie-Margie-Victor-Victor- MargieNeo-Chickenhawk Coward And White Trash Piece of Joisey Broad/ Wimp Nazi Garbage.
victor| 5.13.11 @ 1:21AM
Robert| 4.16.11 @ 4:11AM
So you'd rather the white nationalist have the money than Ron Paul? Has Ron Paul ever proposed, supported or voted for a law to institutionalize racism? In case you aren't familiar with the relevant history, the Nazis and their progeny have never been fond of libertarianism or laissez-faire economics.
Giving back campaign donations is just silly, anyway, unless you're going to screen every donor for potentially offensive views. Where do you draw the line? It's nothing but theatrics, like most of politics. Ron Paul is too honest to play that game."
Robert, Clint's friend and ally, agrees with Clint that a white nationalist's money is just as good as a regular American's money.
Yeah Right, why give it back?
Doctor Right| 5.10.11 @ 12:52PM
He's also a Bilderberg, Clinton, and a member of the notorious, tip-top-secret "Opus Dei".
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 4:11PM
Dr R,
thank you for all the kind and useful comments.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:28PM
Israel Firster Tool Job's buddy is The Anti-Catholic Screwball Dr.Reich.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 4:35PM
Who are You Dr.Reich, claiming is a member of The Bilderberg Society & Catholic Opus Dei.
Doctor Right| 5.10.11 @ 8:07PM
Are you asking a question, genius?
Because if you are, it's customary to use one of these: ?
In between strangling cats, tipping cows, and creepin' out da' ladies, ya' might wanna' learn some punctuation...Know whut ah'm say'n?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 8:26PM
Obviously, You're Stalling to Answer.
Sooo, Get Bent Hermann Goering Wannabe.
Jackie Smoot| 5.20.11 @ 12:33AM
Why don't YOU explain to us why you think serving on the federal reserve board is a bad thing. While you're at it, could you also explain what would have happened in this country if millions of people suddenly discovered that their life's savings were completely GONE?
Bob K.| 5.10.11 @ 7:35AM
You need a vacation, Mr Lord.
After the rest you should come up with better analogies.
figusja| 5.10.11 @ 7:36AM
Great article. I just have one warning. Remember that, once your Outsiders have a large following then you become Insiders by fiat! Look at all the actors from the Outsiders! Beware of the establishment to use us against ourselves!!! Be independent. DO NOT wait for someone to acknowledge you or to approve OF you! Be yourself and find those of like mind. Hold on to the belief of America and its founders and you will have won the fight!
Dan Hirsch| 5.10.11 @ 9:50AM
Ronald Wilson Reagan always maintained his distance. Even his Cabinet and his own children (the grown-up ones) seemed to think that they didn't really know his mind.
I remember the complaints about his seeming uninterested or disengaged at Cabinet meetings, which ended up with his completely ignoring the advice given therein and then following his own council. You have to have a very clear understanding of what your job is to do that in the White House. You also have to really understand history, and you have to be humble. All things that RWR was.
If that's what an Outsider is, then I say,
"Sir, may I have another?"
Don't tread on me!
Appleby| 5.10.11 @ 7:39AM
And the Democrats cannot play the Race Card against him except to call him *a Oreo* which you can bet they will.
I think America is tired of Outsiders and Fresh Faces -- all they want is Grownups.
P.S. It is perfectly obvious that The Outsiders was written by a girl. Boys dont really act like that.
RustyG| 5.10.11 @ 7:39AM
Newt Gingrich......... Outsider??????
Charles Easterly| 5.10.11 @ 10:45AM
RustyG,
You wrote "Newt Gingrich......... Outsider??????"
In addition to Representative Gingrich, Mr. Lord listed a series of other individuals who, despite their rhetoric, are status quo politicians. Although Mr. Lord attempted to paint these individuals as "outsiders," in actuality what they seem to have in common are the political views of Mr. Lord (and sadly a growing number of commentators here at The American Spectator) - and the Republican Party leadership. The latter are of course "Beltway Insiders" of the deepest dye.
This article heavily reminds me of the 2008 Presidential campaign, where pundits and status quo/Republican Party proponents attempted to re-brand Senator McCain as an "Outsider" and "Maverick."
Regards,
Charles
P.S. Did not Mr. Cain support the Wall Street Bailouts, which redistributed wealth from taxpayers/earners to the well-connected ("Insiders")?
-C
bluecollarbytes| 5.10.11 @ 8:32AM
Obama is also an outsider, to 'the American spirit, a rebellious spirit that respects authority-in its proper place' but rebels as govt oversteps the bounds.
Fighting the govt in order to retain control over our lives is an American trait. The country was founded on it. We fought a civil war over it, on both sides. There once was a 60s movement which pretended to want the same thing, but intended to control everyone and everything. We currently live under these new insiders' political demands.
JimW9| 5.10.11 @ 8:38AM
The core reason for Herman Cain's rising popularity is very simple: he speaks powerfully from a strong set of core beliefs and he connects personally. He is by definition an outsider but to pin his rising star on his position outside the gates is to miss the point.
The Herminator is the complete package: he has proven success as a leader at a high level, his physical presence is Alpha, his intellect is first-rate, he is quick-witted and his speaking ability is unparalleled.
Yet these attributes miss his main appeal: Herman Cain is both charismatic and empathetic. It is this combination that speaks so loudly to so many. Barack Obama is charismatic but is devoid of empathy. In fact, he comes across as one very cold dude.
As did Ronald Reagan before him, Herman Cain connects to people by his very nature. You like Herman as soon as you see and hear him.
If he can garner enough financial support to make a go of it, our country will have its best opportunity to right our fast sinking ship.
Go, Herman!
richard ryan| 5.10.11 @ 10:10AM
I really like Pawlenty's positions on most issues. He speaks well, tries very hard to look presidential. But I can barely stomach watching him talk. Cain is the "anti-Pawlenty". Cain engages, talks honestly, and has a magnetic presense all the while being himself. That is the Reagan quality that America really embraced. Americans can recognize someone who is desperately trying to be something that does not come naturally. Well, most of the time (Obama is the ultimate pretender).
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 4:00PM
Pawlenty is NOT popular among Minnesota Republicans, folks.
post*tenebras*lux| 5.10.11 @ 9:02AM
I would beg to ask the question, Who is Herman Cain? Background? Core beliefs? Just being an "against" ain't gonna get it with the Tea Party.
Pecos Pete| 5.10.11 @ 10:25AM
You really ought to do some easy and basic research. Herman Cain is against big government and FOR the Constitution. That alone is gonna get it with the Tea Pary.
Kelly Staples| 5.10.11 @ 9:10AM
Let's get ready to rumble! It's Capt. Crybaby and his limp-wristed Beltway myrmidons, vs. Herman and his merry band of Tea Partying Cainiacs. Game on!
blackwatch| 5.11.11 @ 2:08PM
"Barry Dithers & The Teleprompter" is going to get his clock cleaned by a real man with real accomplishments on his record. No more "Barack is so smart and he was a community organizer Hope and Change crap. That is not going to fly this time.
But Cain is not perfect either. There is no perfect candidate for conservatives this season. So pick a candidate that hits 85% of your core beliefs and support him. I for one am encouraged that we have someone who is not an attorney and someone who knows what it is like to sign the front of a paycheck.
Anthony| 5.10.11 @ 9:10AM
"They're not scared of you, they're scared of what you represent....freedom". So where and when exactly did the "Woodstock Generation" make the wrong turn?
What pathetic & dangerous hypocrites they became!!!
P.S. Mr. Cain deserves a serious look, this man has potential. I almost developed Matthews-like tingly leg syndrome.
Dan Hirsch| 5.10.11 @ 9:55AM
When they came to believe that it was all about the sex, drugs, and rock and roll. While the real Americans were supporting and fighting Communism in Viet Nam and around the world. Note that the icons of the sixties are now laboring mightily foist progressivism on us-progressivism is just inchoate communism!
Woodstock was NOT a high point in our history or civilization. It was fun, but stupid.
Nolite me conculcare!
simon templar| 5.10.11 @ 10:09AM
The freedom they were advocating was not the freedom of which you may be thinking. It was the freedom to copulate with anything or anyone they chose, the freedom of no responsibilities, the freedom to loaf, find oneself, and not work, the freedom to use drugs and do whatever feels good rather than right, and the freedom to reject traditional values, family, and community. The squares were not afraid of this freedom but were repulsed by it. Lefties have always played the outsider from the bohemian to the hippies to the politicos and attempted to sell the false ideas that they represented a higher truth, that squares secretly wanted this kind of freedom, and that they were so brave and desiring to help people. What they actually brought was 58 million murdered babies, a fifty percent divorce rate, sexually transmitted disease at incredible rates, a welfare state of incredible size, the destruction of the black community and family, and a anti-american corruption of our educational institutions, our entertainment industry, and our news media...all of which reflect these old and tired "freedoms" that they have advocated.
Pecos Pete| 5.10.11 @ 10:27AM
And, they didn't serve in the military ... nor did they honor those who did serve.
Anthony| 5.10.11 @ 10:41AM
Well said Dan and simon. Even in my developing, albeit, somewhat squishy mindset of the '60s, I was sufficiently suspicious that if one scratched a campus radical, underneath was a budding toltalitarian.
The first Earth Day was my first clue.
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 4:01PM
Dear Simon,
it is good particularly that you mention the destruction of the Black family. Democrats have always been racists.
Warrior | 5.10.11 @ 5:43PM
We are agreeing again. You must be having a radical moment.
mames| 5.10.11 @ 3:01PM
The quote was made against "the man", the "establishment" so it is a little out of context because we conservatives would be considered "the man" to the young character in the cheezy Easy Rider. Today the ironic thing is that those who cling to and support a Constitutionally Limited Republic are in the minority; on the outside trying to get the mindless collectivist to wake up. We now frighten them because we believe in freedom, the very attribute that will unravel their socialist utopian dreams like Jamaican espadrille. IF you doubt our minority status just look at how many CEOs and elected officials tow the standard collectivist line. The man has become Peter and Jack.
TURK| 5.10.11 @ 9:18AM
When Herman Cain ran for Senate in Georgia the insiders(Bush,Rove, etc)had a cow and came running to the aid of the insider. The republicans (whose establishment I left in '63-64--then again over a year ago) could have had this magnificent Black American in the United States Senate. Instead he now runs from the 'outsider position and I agree with his answer on the no officeholder attempted smear---"hows THAT workin for ya?"
Yesterday or better---in the last few days --we found out who the republican country clubbers and government media are gonna try to shove down our throats, ala McCain in '08: It's Mitch Daniels! kinder gentler----compassionate conservative---Rockefelleresque. And yesterday who do we find blowing Daniels horn but the Washington Post and a host of liberals. I'm sure Colin Powell just loves him(tho he'll vote Obama when it's nut cutting time).
I have a bet with my son that the Repub nominee will come from the 3 guys in the middle on that stage(I prefer Herman Cain of the book "They think you're stupid" They do! We aint anymore!
Dan Hirsch| 5.10.11 @ 10:06AM
Yesterday, Mr. Limbaugh was all over the Obama-led attempted elevation of Mr. Daniels, another compassionate conservative with whom we are all hoping to get along.
Actually I think that Obama's endorsement should be taken by conservative thinkers as a disqualification of Mr. Daniels, as well as his exhortation that we change our thinking to make us more attractive to the other side.
What really needs to be done, if it isn't already too late: CLOSE THE PRIMARY VOTING TO NON-REPUBLICANS.
Since Obama will not have a serious challenger, Democrats accross the country can cross over to vote in Republican primaries, pushing weak candidates to the forefront, and giving the RNC an overly-optimistic view of their chances because of seemingly high primary vote turnouts. These are the big dangers for Tea Party Americans in 2012 - along with Democratic vote stealing!!
Mimi| 5.10.11 @ 2:19PM
The Tea Party people better be sure to enroll Republican...so they can have a voice inthe Primaries. Yes, by all means our primary should be only for enrolled GOP members. How many of conservatives stayed home in the 2008 Election... Ill bet there were a lot R/T McCain being the candidate. I pray we get a Conservative this time . !!!
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 10:14PM
Dear Mimi,
Please don't change the way you have always written your posts just because the creepy Suey Keohl insulted you.
I love your posts, and you do not need to change a single thing!
God bless you.
Nunya| 5.10.11 @ 2:44PM
Planet Utah did that some time ago, after the Democraps all voted for McCain instead of W the first go-around (because he was a "Maverick" don't you know*). Naturally they were excoriated in the press and told that they were childish, etc., but frankly, one has no business voting in a primary if they don't belong to the party--ANY party.
*In reality, as I believe we all recognize, Mr. McCain is a lib in R's clothing. In review of his voting record, he was very conservative when he first got in, and has steadily slid down to the left as he's gotten older. He's not a conservative by a long shot, and that's the worst thing you can say about anybody. ;-)
Pecos Pete| 5.10.11 @ 10:32AM
I'd vote for Herman Cain without a doubt that we would have a real American as President.
It would be a very interesting campaign with Cain vs Obama. And, how about Allen West as the VP candidate? Wouldn't the debates be interesting ... and exciting?
simon templar| 5.10.11 @ 10:40AM
It would be the political super bowl of the century! I would pay a thousand dollars a ticket for a front row seat!
post*tenebras*lux| 5.10.11 @ 11:10AM
What debates? The so called debates these days are setups to steer the public's opinions.
Wayne | 5.10.11 @ 11:17AM
Not one question in 2008 on individual freedom. Not one!
Wayne | 5.10.11 @ 11:17AM
I bet they could pull in a majority of the black vote.
Warrior | 5.10.11 @ 5:50PM
On what planet are you looking at race relations? They will be branded as Uncle Tom's and sellouts to their race, and that is the mild reactions. Just multiply what the left did and continues to do to Clarence Thomas ten fold.
pat| 5.10.11 @ 3:24PM
Yes! agree wholeheartedly, Cain for President' West for VP...what a ticket! Can you just hear the racists yell foul????
Louis Jenkins| 5.10.11 @ 10:46AM
Herman Cain is a breath of straight talk. It is about time we had one of those running for President. He doesn't mince words, he speaks to the common man, and his thoughts are clearly brought to the public forefront. If he keeps up his straight talk I'll be won over hands down. America is begging for someone who doesn't need the teleprompter, and Herman may be the man.
Wayne | 5.10.11 @ 11:14AM
Who can forget Bachmann on her election night asking Matthews if he still had a tingle running up his leg. It is now all personal with him.
You will find a lot less racism and sexism on the right than you find on the left. They use race and sex to pidgeonhole and stereotype people. We just saw it with Reid scolding Rubio. In there world male whites need to compensate for all evils of previous generations and blacks, hispanics and women need to be victims of the generations of oppression. Liberals live in the 19th century and continually try to push us back 150 years.
Cain does not talk like a politician, he talks like a businessman. The pendulum is swinging because of Obama's hatred towards businessmen. They are the new OUTSIDERS. So on 3 counts Cain is an outsider: Not a victim of race, Not a politician and A Successful Business Man. Maybe having his own talk show is the 4th.
He is also loaded with self-confidence. What he needs to do is to start making firmer stands on foreign policy. He defers right now, saying that he will rely on the experts.
But who can we relate to as outsiders ourselves? It seems to be Cain, West, Palin, Bachmann and Rubio. It is no mere coincidence why?
I am hoping to see one of them as our next president.
Petronius| 5.10.11 @ 11:18AM
We outsiders will always be in that position. To get on the inside of any organization or institution one must be willing to jump through the hoops held by the gate keepers. Should Mr. Cain or anybody possessing the character traits and integrity of Thomas More attempt running, he will end up with nothing to show for it but spent shoe leather.
Is there any outsider who ever prevailed over the establishment on his own terms to become genuinely accepted by his adversaries? I can't recall any in my life time and only one in our era of existence as a nation who was drafted into public service and political life. And he was not American or a politician. Verdi was a true outsider who insiders worshiped, because his stature was above theirs.
If the Donald believes he can masquerade as an outsider, we learned that trick from Ross for boss.
Fuggetaboutit!
JimH| 5.10.11 @ 11:26AM
I was not familiar with Mr. Cain so I did a bit of checking. I don’t know enough about his positions yet but he does have an impressive resume. Besides having been an executive and entrepreneur, he was if not a rocket scientist, a rocket mathematician. I would prefer a flat income tax to his sales tax though I can see his point. If he became the Republican nominee I would be happy to support him even if he was not my first choice. Besides with him as a candidate we can go from the Tea Party to the Pizza Party.
jah| 5.13.11 @ 4:47AM
you are not a member of the Tea Party, trust me. Not with that opinion.
Jackie Smoot| 5.20.11 @ 12:45AM
You don't get to decide who is in the tea party and who is not.
fmm| 5.10.11 @ 12:35PM
This statement "Everybody got chicken." could read "Everybody got a chicken." with equal , or more truth.
J.C.Eaton| 5.10.11 @ 12:53PM
From the bit of information I've picked up on Mr. Cain and his rising notoriety, I judge his popularity comes from a willingness to fight! That is precisely what a warrior comes to do, what a true outsider has to do,and what Conservatives metaphorically hunger for. Presented with a choice to succumb meekly,painlessly, and addled with government "largesse", I'd prefer to go out with a bang and political guns blazing. If that is the truth of Herman Cain,he might just pull it off.And win!
Doctor Right| 5.10.11 @ 12:54PM
...And John McCain is a "Maverick"...
Insider, outsider...whatever. Just get someone in there who will do the job, and do it right.
Who Knows?| 5.10.11 @ 1:30PM
Ah, the good old “outsiders” theme.
We’d be remiss not to also mention, at least, “The Outsider”, by Colin Wilson, published in 1956.
In my own 20’s, when existentialism caught my intellectual eye, soon enough I had to read and come to terms with this book----probably in the late 1960’s.
Well, of course, HERE it’s all about politics, so it’s understandable that Mr. Lord would focus on the popular and well know “outsider” factoids, in order to make his case for Mr. Cain---who I’d vote for president in a second.
“In, out, let’s get cracking!”
Who said that, from a popular movie?
Answer---
“When you're a Jet,
You're a Jet all the way
From your first cigarette
To your last dying day.
When you're a Jet,
If the spit hits the fan,
You got brothers around,
You're a family man!
You're never alone,
You're never disconnected!
You're home with your own:
When company's expected,
You're well protected!
Then you are set
With a capital J,
Which you'll never forget
Till they cart you away.
When you're a Jet,
You stay a Jet!
(spoken) I know Tony like I know me.
I guarantee you can count him in.
ACTION: In, out, let's get cracking”
So, the Jets, the penultimate OUTSIDERS, along with their enemies, in West Side Story, sing away, with the obvious conclusive words---
GET CRACKING!
By the BORN way, we each emerge from the womb, or from the INSIDE, to the OUTSIDE, so every human is never other than an OUTSIDER.
Maybe we could truthfully say that America is the most evolved place for humans, in that the openly affirmed base of her “creed” is awakened understanding of this truth.
In short, Lady Liberty in New York harbor is essentially telling the unvarnished truth, recognizing that we are ALL outsiders, born on the coming-forth of NOW, and simply offering those who get this the best chance to play out their outsider condition.
Anyway, and ALL WAYS, “in, out, let’s get cracking”, has long been, for me, a plucky and often plucked memory, ever ready to access from the many folds of “my” brain, for application in many arising, and even surging, situations.
Literally, “crack”, the word, itself screams for pondering---another seminal book, “The Crack in the Cosmic Egg”, by Joseph Chilton Pearce, 1971, deserves wide readership.
I’m always cracking a smile, at least metaphorically, with practically EVERYTHING that occurs, these wild and crazy days---hey, Obama is president!
Besides, bodily, from birth until death, how many vital CRACKS are there IN or OUT of it?
The major ones are well known, and mostly unmentioned, because it’s too gross, in “polite” company to say much about the anus and vagina and penis, etc. Let alone the myriad FOUL mouths! Hello, Chris Matthews!
Why not go all the OUTSIDER & INSIDER way, and recall that the epidermis of “our” individual bodies is ALWAYS doing its in, out, let’s get cracking, thing.
Pores sweat, skin falls away, nails get trimmed, hair falls out, while we eat to fill the INSIDE, and onand on the wheel spins.
Karma rules---as Mark Twain essentially put it, everybody knows so much that simply isn’t true!
Is realizing THIS not true, fellow outsiders?
D| 5.10.11 @ 2:26PM
Put down the CRACK pipe.
Who Knows?| 5.10.11 @ 2:28PM
LOL
Andrew Keirns| 5.10.11 @ 1:32PM
In 2008, Herman Cain wrote things that the (Left) Media will tie him up in knots on. I like Herman Cain, but if he waits much longer before clarifying (in outsider terms so a lay person can get it), he'll run out of gas, spinning his wheels in the mud instead of gaining more traction with voters.
"There is plenty of blame to go around for the crisis on Wall Street, starting with the CEOs and directors of the wounded businesses, followed by failed congressional oversight that they have and did not use properly. Admittedly, these Wall Street bailouts and “special loan arrangements” by the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve seem inappropriate and excessive to the typical citizen, but if the Bush Administration had done nothing, Mike and Mary Mainstreet would have been outraged once the ripple effect knocked on their door."
cicero| 5.10.11 @ 2:39PM
Well, it seems like , for the first time in a long time, the conservatives have a whole lot of conservative candidates to look at. The trick will be to really look at them, and insist that they state their intentions and plans clearly. They have to conduct a primary season without tearing one another apart with silly sound bites, and be in a position to support whoever comes out on top. This cannot be another "its my turn" election. We don't need a maverick (too cute), or hoary old veteran. We need a smart (not necessarily genius), experienced (in business, finance, and principals), candidate who can get through a debate or interview on his/her own intelligence, principals, and experience instead of teleprompters, talking points repeated no matter what the question, or idiot cards. You don't need those things if you know what you talking about, and believe in it.
The collective wisdom of the American people can be relied upon, if they are given a clear, reasonable choice.
justice tony| 5.10.11 @ 3:00PM
I have a question for Herman Cain. Could you please address your position on the Federal Reserve Bank?
I believe we should not only have a full audit of its books, but in the immediate future, it should be eliminated as it is a private bank owned by the power hungry money grabbing elitists.
mames| 5.10.11 @ 3:08PM
This inst. is as evil as it gets, founded by international bankers to keep their hides protected from the winds of the open market. Using the lying name Fed Res although it is neither And if the Fed is there to protect us, buffer us from ups and downs of the free market, why since its inception has it not protected us from the great depression and every various recession and depression since thin? AH, but the members are always made whole.
Nunya| 5.10.11 @ 4:51PM
The Fed is a private bank, not to protect the bankers "from the winds of the open market", but solely to enrich themselves at our expense. If you look at the history of the Fed and how it operates, they generate "money" out of thin air, paper and ink, then loan that "money" to the US with interest no less. Print a billion dollars from nothing, then get a billion BACK WITH INTEREST. How is this not theft?
They have essentially createed an Owner--Servant relationship with the American people, and the masses don't get it. (That's not by accident, it's by design.) They debase the currency, thereby enriching themselves at our expense. That's why Andrew Jackson killed the 2nd Bank of the US--he KNEW how money works. It's also the reason the founders stated money was to be of gold and silver coinage--they KNEW how money works. Today people are not taught the truth about money, so they see nothing wrong with the Fed, and when the Fed says they can't be audited the reason is because they are STEALING our money and they don't want the masses to figure it out.
Negro X| 5.10.11 @ 10:48PM
Nunya,
Excellent post. The FED needs to be dismantled completely.
Jackie Smoot| 5.20.11 @ 12:52AM
Please god anti-banking system people pick up a freaking economics textbook it's just not that difficult.
If you are a conservative, I suggest any of Dr. Sowell's books. ty in advance
pat| 5.10.11 @ 3:13PM
Say no more, Herman is it!
Jack in Wi.| 5.10.11 @ 3:57PM
Herman is just a distraction to divide the conservative vote. He is the new Alan Keyes. Keyes ran to divide Pat Buchanan's vote. Cain is the bankers candidate to divide the Ron Paul and other conservatives vote. Old Herman had a chance to either defend the FED or Attack it. He did neither. I wouldn't trust anyone that was put on the FED. Herm just doesn't ring true. It's all talk and no action.
Dai Alanye | 5.10.11 @ 5:26PM
Do we really want to trust a wimp like Ron Paul with our foreign policy? I think not.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 5:50PM
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 7:13PM
And Reagan said that in the 1970's.
Hmm.
Reagan was a staunch supporter of Israel. I wonder what he would have to say to Mr. Paul today?
Especially in light of this:
"During the 2009 Gaza War, Paul addressed Congress to voice his staunch opposition to the House's proposed resolution supporting Israel's actions. He stated: "Madame Speaker, I strongly oppose H. Res. 34, which was rushed to the floor with almost no prior notice and without consideration by the House Foreign Affairs Committee. The resolution clearly takes one side in a conflict that has nothing to do with the United States or US interests. I am concerned that the weapons currently being used by Israel against the Palestinians in Gaza are made in America and paid for by American taxpayers."
Reagan's history on Israel:
http://archive.newsmax.com/arc.....2342.shtml
Anyone who isn't a friend of our ally Israel is no friend of America, and I believe Ronald Reagan would whole heartedly agree.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 8:04PM
Do Your Homework Israel Firster Fanatic Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
Ronald Reagan:
“The United States has thus far sought to play the role of mediator. We have avoided public comment on the key issues. We have always recognized and continue to recognize that only the voluntary agreement of those parties most directly involved in the conflict can provide an enduring solution. But it’s become evident to me that some clearer sense of America’s position on the key issues is necessary to encourage wider support for the peace process. . . . the immediate adoption of a settlement freeze by Israel, more than any other action, could create the confidence needed for wider participation in these talks. Further settlement activity is in no way necessary for the security of Israel.”
victor| 5.10.11 @ 9:08PM
From the book, " Reagan: A life in Letters: a letter to a Ms. Shirley I. Leviton dated October 25, 1982 on page 454 assering his commitment to Israel:
Dear Ms Leviton,
I'm sorry to be so late in answering your wire. It takes a while before things make their way through the system to my desk.
I just want you to assure you we do intend that negotiations should be within the framework of Camp David, and U.N. Resolutions 242 and 338.
This of course requires acceptance of Israel's RIGHT to EXIST as a nation. I have so informed a meeting of Arab leaders in a White House meeting.
We have NEVER and will NEVER retreat from that position.
Sincerely
Ronald Reagan,
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 10:58PM
"There is, however, another way to peace. The final status of these lands must, of course, be reached through the give-and-take of negotiations; but it is the firm view of the United States that self-government by the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza in association with Jordan offers the best chance for a durable, just and lasting peace."
Ronald Reagan
RCV| 5.12.11 @ 1:26PM
Jordan wants nothing to do with that idea any more. They've had their fill of the Palestinians.
victor| 5.13.11 @ 1:34AM
The Reagan Plan was finally rejected by Jordan and the PLO in April 1983 -- a development that discouraged Washington about prospects for settlement of the Arab-Israeli conflict and the reliability of Arab "moderates".
Consequently, the US-Israel alliance was strengthened, recovering from the blows it had suffered during Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon, and Syria was again identified as the prime obstacle to regional stability.
jah| 5.13.11 @ 4:54AM
military families contributed more to Ron Paul than any other candidate. Care to take a gander as to why?
You're just another Lazy boy imperialist. Getcha troll on.
Occam's Tool| 5.10.11 @ 4:03PM
No, people who support Cain would not be supporting Paul, Jack.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 5:52PM
The Fixated Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Coward Tool Job's attempts to Smear Air Force Veteran Officer Dr.Ron Paul.
You're A Traitor Bastard Piece Of Israel Firster Garbage,Tool Job.
C Bowen| 5.10.11 @ 6:26PM
That true. Paul's people are against any concept of Herman Cain' project for a North American Union.
Google "an inconvenient book herman cain". Glenn Beck nailed this phony 4 years ago.
qwilly| 5.10.11 @ 4:44PM
Two Chances, Americas first chance was Booker T Washington. He left a university in his wake. The politico's didnt hear him. Now we have Herman Cain. America gets another chance at the truth.
C Bowen| 5.10.11 @ 6:23PM
An outsider? You have to be joking. He was an adviser to Dole-Kemp and represented GE to discus the creation of a North American Union. He may be an Insider's "Outsider" wink-wink but in the age of the Internet, these phonies will be revealed.
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 6:31PM
Let Herman Cain speak for himself w/regard the Fed Reserve.
The Paul-bots despise real conservatives. Why? Because they are HAWKS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk
Jack in Wi.| 5.10.11 @ 7:03PM
Margie that U tube just proved our point. Cain is an absolute shill for the FED Banksters. Let any Constitutionalist listen to that and deny Cain is a phoney. Cain didn't bring up the FED in the debate because Ron Paul would destroy him. Cain is nothing but an unelectabe shill sent in to divide the right, just like Alan Keyes has been doing for years. Ron Paul has been right on the economy and right on the wars. He is the only one who can get the votes to beat Obama. No pro-war, pro-bankster Republican can do that. After All Obama has those votes locked up. By the way in the last campaign Ron got by far the most money from military families.
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 7:32PM
"To the pure all things are pure, but to the corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are corrupted." Tts. 1:15.
victor| 5.10.11 @ 8:39PM
Jack in Cheeze Whiz:
"Cain didn't bring up the FED in the debate because Ron Paul would destroy him."
What was stopping RonPaul from bringing it up, eh?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 8:57PM
http://dailypaul.com/153575/he.....al-reserve
"He backed the Wall Street bailout, or according to Cain, the “recovery plan,” as he called it on his radio show. Cain wrote that nationalizing banks “is not a bad thing.” He even went as far as criticizing opponents of the bailout, calling them “free market purists” and absurdly claiming that no valid criticism had been brought forward."
victor| 5.10.11 @ 9:04PM
clintypoo:
"He... forward."
Submitted by Fortunateson on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:32
in Daily Paul Liberty Forum
This was back in January.
What did RonPaul say during the debate, eh?
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 10:15PM
Do Your own Homework Fat Lazy Ass Joisey Nazi Anti-Catholic Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie-Margie-Victor-Victor-Margie.
Hint: ................ http://ron-paul-south-carolina-gop-debate.html
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 10:22PM
Real Conservatives will learn, soon enough about Cain's Positions: For The Bailout Scam, Against Auditing The FED, For Propping Up Big Banking With The "Too Big To Fail" Scam.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
David Shoup| 5.10.11 @ 8:06PM
A debate between Herman Cain, true blue Conservative, and B. H. Obama, true blue whatever! I would love to see it . Someone who believes something will always overwhelm someone who believes nothing.
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Margie| 5.10.11 @ 10:04PM
So, just which author/editor is Clint/Tim* here at AmSpec?
I have always wondered this. Because just how is it that he is permitted to use such vile language on a daily basis and still be here?
Interesting that if I "respond in kind", that is say, call him what he is for doing this~ I get banned, or "warned".
Say I called him a PUNK for example, or how about a SCUMBAG?
Now that would be cause for "dismissal" would it not?
Guess all that "warning" stuff was just a farce.
Bob Grant| 5.10.11 @ 10:43PM
Stay golden Margie.
Bob Grant| 5.10.11 @ 10:45PM
That would be stay "gold" Marge. It's been a while since I've seen the movie.
Clint| 5.10.11 @ 10:29PM
I'm Emmett Tyrrell's & Ann Coulter's Love Child, Paranoid Zany Crazed Psychotic Joisey White Trash Nazi Piece Of Garbage, Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Victor- Margie- Margie- Vicmar- Marvic- Margie.
Jack in Wi.| 5.10.11 @ 10:31PM
You arer a nasty anti Catholic bigot Margie. So why should you complain about Clint? I believe all the hundreds of billions that we have sent to Israel is a completely unconstitutional subsidy to the Jewish religion. Israel is a racist state that treats the Palistinians under it's control far worse then we treated our black people under segregation. It is even worse then Hitler treated the Jews up until 1938. We all know how it went down form 1938. Pray that sane Jews put a stop to the insanity toward which Israel is headed.
Bob Grant| 5.10.11 @ 10:42PM
Heh, heh, we got ourselves a real p*ss**g contest going on.
Margie| 5.10.11 @ 11:13PM
I'm anti phony men and false prophets darlin'.
Now, get a brain and try thinking for yourself instead of following two cult leaders.
RCV| 5.11.11 @ 5:07PM
"Palestinians" (i.e. Arabs who happen to live in Israel) in the state of Israel are treated far better than they ever have been treated by the Arab countries in which they sought refuge: Jordan and Lebanon kept them confined in squalid refugee camps to use as political pawns, then expelled and/or slaughtered them. Egypt refused to take Gaza back with the rest of its returned territory, and like Jordan, had denied the Palestinians statehood or any independent political rights during the 25 years they controlled Gaza and the West Bank. And finally, Arabs in Israel have more political rights than Arabs in any of the countries surrounding Israel.
Dee See| 5.11.11 @ 12:07AM
'80's Show' sideshow distractions at a moment
like this?
MEANWHILE, as the police state grid is all
but complete
as the RED China TREASON op finishes off
as Obama's set to 'officially' blow the border
dike
as currency and pensions are evaporating
as David Rockefeller walks free while
calling publicly for MASSIVE and RAPID
'depopulation' (ie world genocide)
as the greatest 'EUGENICS friendly' 'RED
China fortuitous' world nuclear disaster of
all time is buried by the Rockefeller et al
media
as, almost certainly, our entire political and cultural
establishment, such as it is, is being cy blackmailed and surveilled and NOT a PEEP is uttered about any of this.
HUAC meets NUREMBERG 2012 ---
THERE IS NO OTHER WAY!
RKJ| 5.11.11 @ 1:12AM
Herman Cain is an ex Chief of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank who stridently supported TARP.
Hardly an outsider.
John | 5.11.11 @ 1:13AM
What is bailout Herman Cain’s position on the World Trade Organization (the U. N.of trade), NAFTA and selling out our vital industry to Communist China? Herman Cain, I suspect, is another economic globalist like most of his America-last talk-radio allies. I hope I am wrong.
chaussures mbt rafiki | 5.11.11 @ 3:12AM
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wodiej| 5.11.11 @ 6:28AM
I would be deeply concerned about supporting someone who has never served in a government role such as Senator, Governor or something else where they have a record of what they voted for and/or legislation they passed. Cain has none of this.
We don't need another great messenger. We need servant leadership. Running a business serves the bottom line for profits. Hardly a foundation for serving We the People.
BA Cyclone| 5.13.11 @ 12:04PM
Those are some nice marxist talking points you showcase there. With those views, I don't see how you could ever vote for a conservative candidate.
"Profits" don't serve the people? How dunce could any person be? The only "business" that employs people without making profits is the government...and where does the government get the funds to employ these people?
Successful business IS We the People. There is no America without it. And without We the People, we get no successful business.
Herman Cain is a living example of a servant leader. His biography is a plain example of that.
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....int/267029
Bob| 5.12.11 @ 3:46PM
I've already ordered my Cain bumper stickers. He is the read deal.
jah| 5.13.11 @ 4:27AM
Koch backs Cain. Is Koch an Outsider? Nope. And neither is Cain. Puppet strings are made of money, right, Jeffrey Lord?
As someone who worked for Reagan, Jeffrey Lord has discredited himself with this shameless promotion of Cain. I know that Jeffrey Lord knows who the real outsider is, a former co-worker of his in the Reagan White House, perhaps: Ron Paul.
Try and discredit him all you want (i.e., "fanatical"). We are in-the-know partly because we have a good memory, and we won't forget this article.
BA Cyclone| 5.13.11 @ 12:05PM
Ron Paul, the "outsider" who has never seen an earmark he didn't like.
Hawker | 5.13.11 @ 11:16AM
The political season is early , we shall see who comes out on the top and gets the nom. I will listen and make up my mind when the primires are held in my district. Reading a lot of the post here is some help and raises some questions that I hope will be answered with more debates and statements from the wannabes . Until then all childist name calling should be stoped. If you have some good news or facts about anyone you support please post otherwise stop with the stupid stuff.
BA Cyclone| 5.13.11 @ 12:07PM
This profile is long, but comprehensive. Mr. Cain doesn't shy from his record in any way.
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....int/267029
Casey| 5.13.11 @ 5:48PM
Let's hope so!
Anne Marie Erskine| 5.14.11 @ 4:03PM
Cain, Christie, West, Ryan, Rubio, Giuliani - a combination of any two on this list and America wins! The old guard Republicans better wake up and give us exactly that - because Bush, the "compassionate conservative - nee, liberal" likes Daniels, Daniels is OUT for me - he's a "compromise" Rhino as far as I am concerned - and would someone direct McCain to a nursing home, please - geeeze louiseeze - WAKE UP REPUBLICANS and let's take Obysmal, the Marxist, down -
Hollywood4Cain | 6.6.11 @ 2:28AM
Check out this short video compilation highlighting some of the differences in worldview between Mr. Cain and President Obama and his administration. Clearly Mr. Cain advocates for an empowerment society and Mr. Obama advocates for victimhood and entitlements, in exchange for votes. When Herman Cain debates Obama on race, my sense is that Mr. Cain will take the president to the woodshed.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Ho.....H1F5n7S5x4
weddingdress | 6.29.11 @ 5:44AM
Cain, Christie, West, Ryan, Rubio, Giuliani - a combination of any two on this list and America wins! The old guard Republicans better wake up and give us exactly that - because Bush, the "compassionate conservative - nee, liberal" likes Daniels, Daniels is OUT for me - he's a "compromise" Rhino as far as I am concerned - and would someone direct McCain to a nursing home, please - geeeze louiseeze - WAKE UP REPUBLICANS and let's take Obysmal, the Marxist, down -