The killing of Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, a hill resort near
the capital of Islamabad and headquarters of the elite Pakistan
Military Academy for young cadets, supports charges that the
Pakistan Army and ISI, the intelligence service, have been
colluding and double dealing against the United States for
years.
Now we are beginning to see the wrath of Congress directed
at a country that has received $20 billion of U.S. aid since 9/11.
It requires a massive suspension of disbelief to think that at
least some Pakistani authorities were not aiding and abetting Bin
Laden and providing a support process for his covert lifestyle in
an outsized, secure compound near the Karakoram Highway — the old
Silk Route — in a legendary and splendid garrison town. Like other
events where there is global outrage, there is the risk that when
the shouting dies, nothing substantive will change. But in the case
of Pakistan, it must.
Besides being the second most populous Muslim nation in
the world, with some democratic institutions and a vaguely secular
nature, Pakistan’s strategic value to America relates to our
complicated relations with the Peoples Republic of China. While
America should have individual strategies for principals of the
region, including Pakistan, they should realistically be seen in
the context of offsetting the rise of China, America’s principal
strategic objective in Asia.
China is Pakistan’s number one import partner, and a
leading export partner. It has consistently supported Pakistan for
decades, whether the government was military or civilian. The U.S.
is viewed as an inconstant ally that cut and ran after the
mujahedin expelled the Soviets from Afghanistan, and also applied
trade sanctions in view of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons technology
and proliferation effort. China is Pakistan’s leading military
sponsor, and its design and joint venture prowess has led to the
evolution of the Al-Khalid battle tank of the Pakistan Army. China
is supportive of improved infrastructure in Pakistan and is
assisting further construction of the Karakoram Highway. Having
assisted in the development of a port at Gwadar, there is the
possibility of its use as a naval base, giving it strategic access
to the oil lanes of the Persian Gulf, Arabian Sea, and Indian
Ocean.
America’s relationship with China is not well defined:
that country is a trade partner, vast creditor, global competitor,
cyberwarfare threat, and potential adversary in other ways. A
direct Chinese naval presence, facilitated by Pakistan, is a
challenge to both the U.S. and India.
Pakistan’s strategic importance is not only its
relationship with China and its borders with that country, India,
Afghanistan and Iran: It is the essential guardian and steward of a
tribal region of ethnic commonality that straddles both Pakistan
and Afghanistan after the U.S. and NATO withdraw from Afghanistan.
With over 40 million Pashtuns (also known as Pathans) on both sides
of the arbitrary Durand Line delineating the frontier, Pakistan can
ill afford to antagonize an ethnic group of that size, sometimes
known for ferocious nationalism.
For the foreseeable future, already poor relations with
Pakistan will deteriorate further, as the U.S. demands to know
whether it was deception or incompetence, or both, that gave
sanctuary to Bin Laden after years of denials by Pakistan that he
was hiding on their soil. However, it is not just the U.S. that is
demanding answers from the Government of Pakistan: the people of
Pakistan are doing so as well.
Pakistan was originally founded in 1947 by Muhammad Ali
Jinnah as a secular country, and today it is a weak and evolving
democracy with a relatively vibrant and free press. While charges
of corruption, election fraud, and abuse of American civilian and
military aid are legendary, the country has recently made recent
strides to strengthen the status of the judiciary and investigate
charges of election malfeasance. (About 45 percent of the voters in
the 2007 voter list were deemed dubious by the Election
Commission.)
Long term, the way for Pakistan to strengthen its
democratic institutions is for the Pakistani public to demand that
the Pakistan Army and affiliated ISI moderate their controlling
influence and franchise, which even includes extensive business
ventures and holdings. Now they are both badly discredited, as the
world’s most wanted man was living at ease in an idyllic hill
station under elegant chinar trees.
At this moment, the Pakistani public is ashamed and
outraged — Bin Laden was discovered and killed near the capital,
and American aircraft and Navy SEAL forces penetrated deep into
Pakistan without the knowledge of Islamabad. Pakistan has
long viewed itself as a victim of jihadist terror, abandoned by the
U.S. But whatever moral authority Pakistan could claim as a partner
in the war on terror is now much diminished.
It will take the Pakistani people themselves to wrest
control of their nation state and build credible democratic
institutions. With unprecedented public outrage aimed at the elite
Pakistan Army and ISI, who have at least for the moment lost some
of their leverage, the people have their chance, and the time for
reform is now.
America’s policies toward Pakistan will not be tidy and
unambiguous, since the Pakistan Army is ultimately a stabilizing
force should evolution toward democracy fail. But we now have the
opportunity to demand more from Pakistan and to support the
legitimate aspirations of its people.
Mimi| 5.9.11 @ 7:00AM
After the OBL capture....Pakistans remarks to the USA were condeming and a WARNING was given along with THREATS!
If the country was for us... not against us, their reaction would be one of GRATITUDE and thankfulness for the work done by the Navy Seals .
Relief , like the rest of the world wasn't exhibited
You'd think they would have been gracious as a partner in the WAR ON TERROR. Something is ROTTEN here, a major re-think is in order. where we spread our DOLLORS
Jameela| 5.9.11 @ 7:14AM
We are ALL Arabs, Except the Jews
(“I convey to you the Messages of my Lord and give sincere advice to you. And I know from Allah what you know not.”)
Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an the entire earth’s population are descendants of Adam, with the exception of the Jews, as they are the Children of Iblis aka Israel.
(O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa] (Eve)], and from them oth He created many men and women; and fear Allah through Whom you demand (your mutual rights), and (do not cut the relations of) the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allah is Ever an All-Watcher over you.)
It is revealed in the following Hadith, that Adam spoke Arabic, which means Adam was an Arab, and ALL the Children of Adam are of Arab descent. And this is the reason Allah sent the Children of Adam an Arab Prophet aka Prophet Muhammad [phuh].
Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said, “Allah created Adam in His Image, sixty cubits (about 30 metres) in height. When He created him, He said (to him), “Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring.” Adam (went and) said, “As-Salamu Alaikum [peace be upon you].” They replied, “As-Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah {Peace and Allah’s mercy be on you).” So they increased Wa Rahmatullah.” The Prophet added, “So, whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and picture of Adam. Since then the creation of Adam’s {offspring} {i.e. stature of human beings} is being diminished up to the present time.
The dirty-white race is the race furthest removed from the racial purity of our Arab father Adam, and by default, this makes the dirty-white race the morally and melanin depleted garbage race and not the master race, only master fools. Allah will dispose of the dirty-white garbage race in the manner in which Allah Disposes of the garbage that He has created. Allah Will burn the dirty-white garbage race in the bowels of the Hell-fire for worshipping a murdered Jew as god, along with their evil Jew masters. Allah reveals the Jew’s father in the following Verse of the Qur’an:
(I (Allah) made them (Iblis and his offspring) not to witness (nor took their help in) the creation of the heavens and the earth and not (even) their own creation, nor was I (Allah) to take the misleaders as helpers.)
([This is the] Revelation sent down from the Lord of the Alamin [mankind, jinn and all that exists].)
([He is Allah] Owner of High Ranks and Degrees, the Owner of the Throne. He sends the revelation by His Command to any of His slaves He wills, that he (the person who receives revelation) may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting [i.e. the Day of Resurrection].
(And to warn those [Jews, Christians, and pagans] who say, “Allah has begotten a son [or offspring or children].”)
(No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. Mighty is the word that comes out of their mouths [i.e. He begot sons and daughters]. They utter nothing but a lie.)
(Your Ilah [God] is One Ilah [God-Allah, none has the right to be worshipped but He])
(“And indeed, We created man from dried [sounding] clay of altered mud. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire.”).
(And I have created the jinn and men only to worship Me).
(And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.”)
Jameela
Messenger of Allah
& Defender of Islam
18 April 2011
chuck| 5.9.11 @ 7:41AM
Thank you for the wonderful insight into this gutter religion.
Flipper, SEAL Team 6 & 3/4| 5.9.11 @ 11:35AM
Now Jameela, don't make us have to come to your house too.
Stammon| 5.9.11 @ 8:04AM
Wow, you just can't make this stuff up.
John Navratil| 5.9.11 @ 10:23AM
Booger,
Zat you?
Stormzeye| 5.9.11 @ 10:28AM
Come on Jameela, 'fess up. You're really an ignorant white supremecist posing as a Jew-hating Moslem. Your "quotes" from the koran are hilarious.
Mimi| 5.9.11 @ 10:57AM
Sir... no offense, but my recollection is that the first story in the Jewish Bible known as the Old Testament tells us the story of Adm & EVE and springing from "THAT" of course the New Testament The Christian Bible both Old and NEW word from God to us. We are now and forever will be a Jewish/Christian Nation here in America. Our charity gives to all religious LIBERTY in this country . AKA,....FREEDOM TO WORSHIP AS ONE WISHES.
Matthew Quigley| 5.9.11 @ 6:08PM
I'm Irish, not Arab. And allah is a pagan moon god...not the Savior that Patrick gave to my ancestors. Take your Arab supremacy, Jew hatred and other hateful blitherings where they belong: To a cesspit. And then throw yourself in.
Moncef Gridda| 5.12.11 @ 9:14AM
This is obviously a non-muslim pretending to be a Muslim named "Jameela," saying ridiculous things (which would never glorify the religion this poster is purporting to be a member of, but would only cause it to be viewed with disdain: certainly counter-intuitive) perhaps in the attempt to incite hatred towards Muslims, or maybe because it's just a very effective (by the looks of all the comments below) trolling tactic. Trolling is when a fisherman throws a piece of bait on a hook connected to a line over his boat and moves over a body of water hoping a fish will fall hook line and sinker for the bait.
It appears to have worked here.
Jameela| 5.9.11 @ 7:14AM
(…Kill Them Wherever You Find Them…)
(A Revelation from [Allah], the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.)
(The Jews say: “Allah’s Hand is tied up [i.e. He does not give and spend of His Bounty].” Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for what they uttered. Nay, both His Hands are widely outstretched. He spends [of His Bounty] as He wills. Verily, the Revelation that has come to you from your Lord (Allah) increases in most of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. We have put enmity and hatred amongst them till the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war, Allah extinguished it; and they ever strive to make mischief on the earth. And Allah does not like the Mufsidun [mischief-makers].)
(And you see many of them [Jews] hurrying towards sin and transgression, and eating illegal things [as bribes and Riba (usury). Evil indeed is that which they have been doing.)
(And they have invented a kinship between Him and the jinn, but the jinn know well that they have indeed to appear [before Him] [i.e. they will be called to account].)
(He [Isa-Jesus] was not more than a slave. We granted Our Favour to him, and We made him an example for the Children of Israel [i.e. his creation without a father].)
(And (remember) when We sent towards you (Muhammad [PBUH]) a group of (three to ten persons) of the jinn, (quietly) listening to the Qur’an. When they stood in the presence thereof, they said: “Listen in silence!” And when it was finished, they returned to their people, as warners.)
(They said: “O our people! Verily, we have heard a Book (this Qur’an) sent down after Musa (Moses), confirming what came before it: it guides to the truth and to a Straight Path (i.e. Islam).)
(And indeed Musa [Moses] came to you with clear proofs, yet you worshipped the calf after he left, and you were Zalimun [polytheists and wrong-doers.]
(Verily, We took the covenant of the Children of Israel and sent Messengers to them. Whenever there came to them a Messenger with what they themselves desired not, a group of them they called liars and others among them they killed.)
(And they set up rivals to Allah, to mislead men from His Path! Say: “Enjoy your brief life! But certainly, your destination is the [Hell] Fire!”)
(They are like their immediate predecessors [the Jews of Banu Qainuqa, who suffered); they tasted the evil result of their conduct, and [in the Hereafter, there is] for them a painful torment.)
(And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-Al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.)
(Jihad ((holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.)
(O Prophet [Muhammad {pbuh}]! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will
overcome two hundreds, and if there be a hundred steadfast persons, they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they [the disbelievers] are a people who to do not understand.)
(And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allah, and for those weak, ill-treated, and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: “Our Lord!” Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors, and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help.)
(If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment and will replace you by another people; and you cannot harm Him at all, and Allah is Able to do all things.)
(Oh you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you; and know that Allah is with those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious].)
(And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e. worshipping others besides Allah). And the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone (in the whole of the world). But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly Allah is All-Seer of what they do).
(And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war [tanks, planes, missiles, artillery] to threaten thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them whom you may not know, [but] whom Allah does know. And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allah shall be repaid to you, and you shall not be treated unjustly.)
(So be not weak and ask for peace (from the enemies of Islam while you are having the upper hand. Allah is with you, and He will never decrease the reward of your good deeds).
(So do not become weak [against your enemy], nor be sad, and you will be superior [in victory] if you are indeed [true] believers.)
(And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass [of worldly wealth].)
(Think not of those who are killed in the Way of Allah as dead. Nay, they are alive, with their Lord, and they have Provision.)
(Verily, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties for [the price] that theirs shall be Paradise. They fight in Allah’s Cause, so they kill [others] and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurat [Torah] and the Injeel [Gospel] and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success.)
(Indeed, We have sent Our Messengers with clear proofs, and revealed them the Scripture and the Balance [justice] that mankind may keep up justice. And We brought forth iron wherein is mighty power [in the matters of war], as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help Him [His religion] and His Messengers in the unseen. Verily, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty.)
(Verily, We will indeed make victorious Our Messengers and those who believe [in the Oneness of Allah—Islamic Monotheism] in this world’s life and on the Day when the witnesses will stand forth, [i.e. Day of Resurrection]--)
(And those who believe in Allah and His Messengers and make no distinction between any of them [Messengers], We shall give them their rewards; and Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)
(Verily, those who disbelieve in Allah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allah and His Messengers [by believing in Allah and disbelieving in His Messengers] saying, “We believe in some but reject others,” and wish to adopt a way in between.)
(They are in truth disbelievers. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment.)
(It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed into a plain error.)
(The Messenger [Muhammad [pbuh]) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and [so do] the believers. Each one believes in Allah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. [They say]. “We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers” and they say, “We hear, and obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all”).
([This is the] Revelation sent down from the Lord of the Alamin [mankind, jinn and all that exists].)
([He is Allah] Owner of High Ranks and Degrees, the Owner of the Throne. He sends the revelation by His Command to any of His slaves He wills, that he (the person who receives revelation) may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting [i.e. the Day of Resurrection].
(And to warn those [Jews, Christians, and pagans] who say, “Allah has begotten a son [or offspring or children].”)
(No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. Mighty is the word that comes out of their mouths [i.e. He begot sons and daughters]. They utter nothing but a lie.)
(“He [Isa {Jesus}] said: “Verily, I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;)
(And when I (Allah) revealed to Al-Hawariyyun [the disciples of Isa [Jesus] to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: “We believe. And bear witness that we are Muslims.)
(Such is Isa [Jesus], son of Maryam [Mary]. [It is] a statement of truth, about which they doubt [or dispute].)
(This is the truth from your Lord, so be not of those who doubt.)
(Look, how they invent a lie against Allah, and enough is that as a manifest sin.)
(And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied against Allah [i.e. attributed to Him sons, partners] their faces will be black. Is there not in Hell an abode for the arrogant?)
(Will they not turn with repentance to Allah and ask His Forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)
(And what think those who invent a lie against Allah, on the Day of Resurrection? [i.e. Do they think that they will be forgiven and excused! Nay, they will have an eternal punishment in the Fire of Hell.] Truly, Allah is full of Bounty to mankind, but most of them are ungrateful.)
(Your Ilah [God] is One Ilah [God-Allah, none has the right to be worshipped but He])
(“And indeed, We created man from dried [sounding] clay of altered mud. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire.”).
(And I have created the jinn and men only to worship Me).
(And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.”)
Verses of the Qur’an compiled by:
Jameela
Messenger of Allah
& Defender of Islam
2 April 2011
Carnifex| 5.9.11 @ 9:16AM
What do you expect from a bandit cult?
Moncef Gridda| 5.12.11 @ 9:11AM
I'm afraid you've been caught in a trolling attempt. I don't know if you've ever thrown bait on a hook, thrown it off a boat and paraded around a body of water: but this act is called trolling and that's precisely what went on above in "Jameela's" post. It appears "Jameela" is trying to incite hatred towards Muslims. I doubt "Jameela" is actually named "Jameela" or is a muslim.
Dai Alanye | 5.9.11 @ 10:03AM
Considering that Mohammed, an illiterate, assembled many aspects of Islam from his recollections of Kabbalistic Judaism, Jameela (whoever or whatever he or she might be) is remarkably disrespectful toward Jews.
Moncef Gridda| 5.12.11 @ 9:10AM
I'm afraid you've been caught in a trolling attempt. I don't know if you've ever thrown bait on a hook, thrown it off a boat and paraded around a body of water: but this act is called trolling and that's precisely what went on above in "Jameela's" post. It appears "Jameela" is trying to incite hatred towards Muslims. I doubt "Jameela" is actually named "Jameela" or is a muslim.
Matthew Quigley| 5.9.11 @ 6:10PM
What's this cretin been smoking? It sure sounds like it has him tripping.
J.C.Eaton| 5.10.11 @ 12:04AM
I get it, you're gonna talk us to death.
Quartermaster| 5.10.11 @ 5:36PM
Allah is the Babylonian Moon God and as such, Muslims are just so many pagans.
Jehovah, on the other hand, has revealed himself first to Abraham and his descendants, then though his Son, Jesus Christ.
Christ lifts up a people and inspires to greatness. Islam degrades people. Just look at the Muslim world for the proof.
Frekki| 5.9.11 @ 8:06AM
How about this. How about we nuke Mecca and Medina into glass, then ask you what your Allah can do about it.
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.9.11 @ 8:20AM
Jameela,
thank you.
You have reminded us again why we are at war with Islam.
www.americaalonesaidno.com
Babu| 5.9.11 @ 8:35AM
"Jameela Seinfeld is a bad man. A very, very bad man. "
Travis Bickle| 5.9.11 @ 9:05AM
You talkin' to me Jameela ?......... You talkin' to me Jameela? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell else are you talking... you talking to me Jameela?
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.9.11 @ 9:21AM
Mr. Schell
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. The Pakistanis have no chance.
Sharia law has locked them into self-imposed slavery for hundreds of years and into the foreseeable future.
Islam makes the PERFECT totalitarian dictatorship under the cynical rule of the dictators themselves, because the people shackle themselves.
John Allen Williams| 5.9.11 @ 9:27AM
This is another outstanding article by Mr. Schell. It is thoughtful, informative, and wise. I am not sure how some of the comments survived the vetting process, which suggest they "will be deleted if profane, bigoted, or grossly impolite." Editors?
Dai Alanye | 5.9.11 @ 10:11AM
Oh, please! It's far more likely that we've known about bin Laden's hideout for some time, only waiting to act until Pakistan decided he was more valuable to them dead than in deep freeze. Schell's article strikes me as rather simplistic.
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.9.11 @ 10:12AM
John Allen,
perhaps you should take your delicate sensibilities back over the huffington or daily kos. Heh.
Free speech still stands here at TAS. In all kindness, we will excuse you.... and the horse you rode in on.
Mimi| 5.9.11 @ 11:09AM
FREEDOM OF SPEECH...FREEDOM OF RELIGION.... FINE! But how did this guy get into the country and pass through immigration?
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.9.11 @ 12:18PM
Mimi...
it is a world wide web! (www)
jameelska could be submitting from Iran or whereever.
John Navratil| 5.9.11 @ 10:59AM
This article is too Pollyanna-ish for me. Pakistan is factionalized along family lines to the point the Benazir Bhutto (London educated and by all accounts a spoiled light-weight) left a dynastic succession she inherited from her father.
Her father was deposed by Zia al-Huq and executed for having instigated the murder of a political opponent and Al-Huq died in a mysterious plane crash along with the U.S. ambassador. Both embraced the islamicization of Pakistan.
This country, I'm afraid, will fall apart before anyone has the sense to bring it together. After all, the military (as in Egypt, illustratively) has been to only institution with a sufficiently broad appeal to the population to keep it together.
And now, the question of military (or at least, ISI) support for bin Laden begs the question of whether the people are unified against America.
If it weren't for the nukes, would be care?
Mimi| 5.9.11 @ 11:20AM
Man if we could only get ourselves out of the Middle East....we lost the skills to deal with these folks....over a thousand years ago.... now they are standing in line with us at WALMARTS ! They will need to pick up info on us before they decide to come here.....Oh well...WE HAVE done it before....you know with our GREAT/GREAT and GREAT grand-parents came long ago! God...only in AMERICA!!!!
Louis Jenkins| 5.9.11 @ 11:19AM
Pakistan is an Islamic nation. A pig is a pig, a horse is a horse, a fish is still a fish. To expect anything else is plain foolishness.
Ken (Old Texican)| 5.9.11 @ 12:22PM
Louis,
sadly, here is how it may likely play out.
www.americaalonesaidno.com
Dixie Pixie| 5.9.11 @ 1:08PM
Gentlemen....Have you considered the reason the Pakistan government was covertly supporting OBL was because Osama was a multi-billion dollar cash cow for the Pakistan.
As long as Al Qaeda was active the USA needed allies to fight them.
The way the USA tries to build international relationships is on a mountain of cash.
By keeping Al Qaeda and OBL on a short leash the Pakistan government could maximize cash flow
by having Osama make a video or let Al Qaeda go through with a easily foiled plot.
The Pakistan could take credit for foiling the plot thus earning the favor of the USA as an ally on the War on Terror.
By covertly supporting Al Qaeda and giving OBL sanctuary the Pakistan government gains the favor and donations of the Islamic world in general and the Saudi Wahhabi in particular.
In short the Pakistan government was collecting support and cash from all sides.
Keeping Osama in a golden cage in the middle of an Army controlled city was a small price to pay but with a multi-billion dollar payback .
Dave Williams| 5.9.11 @ 1:37PM
There's nothing wrong with Pakistan that a few well-placed nuclear warheads can't cure. As our muslim (deliberately uncapitalized) troll has ably demonstrated, there is no reasoning with these people.
cicero| 5.9.11 @ 1:46PM
Let me see if I understand this - the U.S. is in competition with China to see who gets to adopt the rabid dog, and make sure it stays in his back yard? China builds a highway to the sea; we give them $100 billion. China shows them how to build a tank (that cannot float, so we needn't worry).; we give them $100 billion.
Let China have Pakistan. They live right next door, and are in a better position to donate their economic blood to them when it becomes necessary. The last time I looked, I don't think Pakistan exports enything to us that we consider essential. We can buy and sell, and China can buy and sell. That is called free trade. China is not going to attacck the United States. If they did, we would abrogate our debt to them, and they would be formally (instead of informally) bankrupt. China's presence in the Asian waters might even be helpful - see the pirate problem.
Once we get over this notion that we are the nursemaid of the entire would, we will be better off. If we want to be the policeman of the world, we have to punish the wrongdoers, and stop trying to make model citizens out of them. If a Kabul or an Islamabad err, destroy their capabilities to function for while. They will think twice before erring again. We think we have to adopt them, and show them the error of their ways by showering them with our treasure, and trying to pull them into the modern world.
I again recommend we all read Kipling's "White Man's Burden". It was true then, and remains true today.
Doctor Right| 5.9.11 @ 3:48PM
"...supports charges that the Pakistan Army and ISI, the intelligence service, have been colluding and double dealing against the United States for years."
WHAT?!?!?
Muslims lie???
You, Sir, are a despicable bigot!
Sam Levi| 5.9.11 @ 6:36PM
Let the Chinese have them, the communist are noted for their leniency on religion and viewpoints contrary to their own....
Dee See| 5.10.11 @ 12:49AM
"We are using MASSIVE third world immigration
to destroy British culture once and for all
---forever."
-TONY BLAIR
(Daily Mail interview cited by Alan Watt
'Annihilation of Britain' on youtube)
-----Likewise Europe and America.
AS our borders are wide open, as the EUGENIST
Rockefellers have infiltrated, subverted and
sterillized our own genuine religious culture
(think 'Council of Churches', Billy Graham,
Oprah et al --destroyers and heretics one and
all) ---as 'profiling' is forbidden even as one and
all must submit to slave training TSA gropes,
as the greatest world nuclear disaster of all
time (Fukishima) is buried in the yuppie globalist media ----as off the charts radiation has now
been picked up in backyard gardens ---in Kent
England -----
WHAT ARE WE NOT GETTING?
-------------------GET with the DEE-program!