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The Right Prescription
Supreme Court Allows Obamacare to Metastasize
With 11 words, the Court may have assured PPACA’s future as the driver of U.S. health care.
The Supreme Court’s decision to deny Virginia’s request for expedited review of its Obamacare lawsuit was disappointing but not surprising. Even the Old Dominion’s Attorney General, Kenneth Cuccinelli, has admitted all along that his chances of convincing the high court to grant his “petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment” were quite low. Nonetheless, the White House and its accomplices in the “news” media have greeted the decision with thinly disguised glee. And it is indeed a significant victory for the supporters of Obamacare. Despite the virtual certainty that the Supreme Court will eventually hear one of the myriad constitutional challenges to the unpopular “reform” law, yesterday’s decision dooms these cases to another year of wandering aimlessly in the appellate wilderness.
This protracted journey will allow Obamacare to embed itself in our health care system so deeply that, by the time the Court deigns to hear one of the challenges, it may be impossible to safely extract the tumor. As Sam Stein gloats in the Huffington Post, “The rejection of Cuccinelli’s effort to short-circuit the process represents a small but welcomed victory for the law’s defenders. There will be more time for the laws to be implemented before it comes before the court.” This extra time is obviously what the Department of Justice (DOJ) hoped to gain when it opposed Virginia’s petition. Considering its professed confidence in Obamacare’s constitutionality, it’s difficult to imagine any other reason for the DOJ’s strenuous efforts to prevent the Court from “short-circuiting the normal course of appellate review.”
What, you ask, happened to that expedited appeals process we’ve read so much about? Well, the word “expedite” has a different meaning for lawyers and judges than it does for the rest of us. While it is true that Virginia v. Sebelius and several other Obamacare challenges will be heard in various appeals courts during the next couple of months, the resultant rulings won’t materialize until the end of the summer. Then, as legal scholar Brad Joondeph explains, “The losing side has 90 days to file a petition for a writ of certiorari, and the winner 30 days to respond, at which point the petition will be calendared at the Supreme Court.” After all that, assuming the Court agrees to hear one of the cases, the justices will “hear argument in the spring of 2012, and issue a decision by the end of June 2012.”
Meanwhile, the infection spreads. While the lawyers argue over hopelessly arcane points of law and the judges issue dueling opinions, Obama administration apparatchiks will be working furiously behind the scenes to implement Obamacare. They have already introduced a voracious tape worm of regulations that will wind itself so thoroughly around the entrails of the health care system that removal will be a virtual impossibility in a year or so. The latest example can be found in the rules promulgated by CMS administrator Donald Berwick concerning Accountable Care Organizations (ACO), the government’s latest rebranding of the old HMO gambit. Although the section of the law calling for the creation of ACOs is a mere six pages long, Berwick’s bureaucrats transmuted them into no fewer than 429 pages of regulations.
And the number of rule-generating agencies is also growing. In addition to cozy little boutiques like the Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight (CCIIO), whose primary function seems to involve providing waivers for labor unions and other sources of Democrat campaign funds, Obamacare provides for more than 100 new bureaucracies. How many will be up-and-running by the time the Supreme Court stoops to consider the individual mandate? No one knows exactly. In fact, according to the Congressional Research Service, “The precise number of new entities” that will eventually be created by the Byzantine health law is “currently unknowable.” We do not, however, need to consult the Delphic Oracle to know that more than a few will sprout up while we await the pleasure of the Court.
Also coming on line while we wait is the Community Living Assistance Services and Supports (CLASS) Act, Obamacare’s federally subsidized entitlement for long-term care. This program was shown to be fiscally unsustainable a year before the law was passed and is now the target of repeal legislation introduced by South Dakota Senator John Thune. The Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, admits the program is unsustainable as written but plans to move forward with implementation nonetheless. She has told Congress that she will fix the CLASS Act by making a variety of changes to the program. The HHS Secretary is not, it turns out, authorized under the law to make such changes. But, as Sebelius has demonstrated before, mere legal authority is not a particularly important consideration.
Fiscally unsustainable new entitlements, proliferating bureaucracies, and over-regulation are by no means the only ways Obamacare will metastasize while Virginia v. Sebelius wanders through the appellate wilderness. There will be new taxes on businesses, downward adjustments in Medicare rates, the gutting of the Medicare Advantage program, restrictions on the right of physicians to own certain types of health care facilities, ad infinitum. Ilya Shapiro of the Cato Institute advises: “That the Supreme Court declined to take up the Obamacare litigation before even a single appellate court had ruled on it is neither surprising nor game-changing.” Strictly from the perspective of constitutional law, he is presumably right. However, in terms of the health of our medical delivery system, the decision is definitely a “game-changer.”
If Obamacare has another year to metastasize, it may well be impossible to eradicate the disease without killing or at least badly maiming the patient. In fact, it is conceivable that the DOJ will make that very argument when the case finally arrives before the Court, betting that the justices will be loath to strike down Obamacare — or even the individual mandate — knowing that such a ruling would create chaos in the midst of an election year. And it is by no means obvious that such a ruling would work against Obama’s bid for reelection. It isn’t hard to imagine the President including the Court in “the enemies of change” against whom he will inevitably run in 2012. The eleven words, “The petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment is denied,” represent worse news than most people realize.
About the Author
David Catron is a health care revenue cycle expert who has spent more than twenty years working for and consulting with hospitals and medical practices. He has an MBA from the University of Georgia and blogs at Health Care BS.
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l5j6| 4.26.11 @ 6:13AM
Woo-hoo, you go GOP and dismantle that Big Brother Obambicare. Yeah, right.
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 6:32AM
You must be another ignorant union hack.
You jack-offs are among the stupidest people this nation ever spawned. Your greed, sloth, and envy have already killed the Golden Goose in the steel industry, and are about to kill the auto industry, too. Manufacturers, tired of playing games with your moronic, corrupt union bosses are wisely relocating their business overseas where they don't need to pay you morons $50/hour to turn screws.
Thanks to your brain-dead stupidity, China, India, and Brazil are becoming world manufacturing hubs; meanwhile, you t-shirted, beer-bellied losers are sitting in rust-belt towns with no hope of employment, whining about "evil rich people".
I, and millions like me, have no sympathy for you or your fat, McDonalds-fed progeny. You parasites have sucked-off of the productive class for far too long, and when your greed collapses the welfare state, and your over-generous pensions disappear, we'll be laughing our asses off.
You love "ObamaCare" because you think it means more freebies for you; as usual, you were too lazy and stupid to read the fine print. When the Government denies your Granny care, or when you have to wait 2 years for a simple operation, you won't be so happy, will you, a-hole??
This country is on a slow boil, and it may soon explode. Understand this: When it's all said and done, America will prevail. That leaves you idiots on the outside looking in.
Hope you like the view. Now wake your 250+ pound wife and tell her to find your smokes and make your dang breakfast, Bubba.
JP| 4.26.11 @ 7:48AM
And if anyone doubts the damage the unions and its allies have wrought, just make a visite to Michigan. Last night I visited a small town that was once (a decade or so ago) a vibrant place of industry and commerce. Today it is a ghost town; its streets are litteraly crumbling away; most of its storefronts are closed up; its small factories and machine shops closed thier doors many moons ago. Vacant lots, litter and despair filled the town.
Whether we are speaking of Three Oaks Michigan on the western side of Michigan or Constatine in the center, the story is the same. Destruction. And from Michigan it has moved into Northern Indiana, Illinois, and Ohio.
jd| 4.26.11 @ 7:57AM
I live in Michigan and you are so correct. Liberal progressives have destroyed cities like Detroit and Flint. The union mentality is alive and well here, sad to say. What is shocking to me is the total lack of news coverage of what happened in Dearborn last week. Denying the pastor his constitutional rights to free speech to a backseat to Sharia Law. All because there was fear of how the Muslims would react. So deny the pastor his rights to placate the radical Muslims of Dearborn. I fear for this country like never before.
Chris Martel| 4.27.11 @ 2:31AM
It is called FEAR! These cowards will abrogate our rights so we don't upset those who HATE US!
The American sheeple need to turn off the idiot box and start looking around, we have cameras everywhere, we have communists and marxists in all the main branches of government, and now have muslims looking to overthrow our country, all with the blessings of the annointed one and his minions!
For the love of GOD, wake up America!!!
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:07PM
Me too and from all I have read the Main Stream Media is mostly owned by George Soros as is the Democratic Party. God Bless America!
USSAlabama| 4.26.11 @ 10:25AM
These people are simply mentally and emotionally retarded, not ignorant.
They loved being cared for by parents and emotionally they cannot give this up . Forever searching for someone else to fight their battles,
nurture and support them.
That is why we hate you.
vtwin| 4.26.11 @ 3:31PM
The decay of Michigan, like the decay of American in general is the result of foreign competition or more specifically our response to it. Because for Michigan the foreign competition is primarily in the automotive industry Michigan just happens to be further down the road. But make no mistake it is happening in nearly every sector, unionized and nonunionized, of the American economy.
SpiralArchitect| 4.26.11 @ 3:49PM
Yes, MI is merely a view to the near future.
idalily| 4.26.11 @ 4:06PM
But of course in Liberal-La-La Land, the defection of industries from the US to other shores has NOTHING to do with escalating union demands, escalating minimum wage requirements, escalating regulations and government interference, and the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. Oh, no. It's just those eeeevil capitalists who actually dare hope to earn profits on their hard work. If they'd only share more of their the goodies, we'd all be happy campers. Right, vtwin?
vtwin| 4.26.11 @ 4:32PM
Pop Quiz:
Intel closed a semiconductor manufacturing plant in California, putting thousand onto the unemployment line, after opening a new plant in China. Intel’s decision was because of:
1) Fewer unions
2) Lower corporate tax rates
3) Lower labor costs
4) Less governmental regulation
5) Obama is a Marxist without a birth certificate (this choice is for Donald Trump)
6) All of the above
vtwin| 4.26.11 @ 5:10PM
Yes, I know Donald Trump hasn’t called Obama a Marxist. But, he will, because you see , first comes the brither speech, this is followed by the Wright-Aries-ACORN speech, then the communist-Marxist speech, and finally the fascist speech whereupon Sean Hannity will issue Mr. Trump his official Tea Party Sharpie so Donald can draw tiny mustaches on pictures of the President.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:09PM
From what I have heard the Union is going to try to get into Texas, I hope we fight back against it. I can't stand the Unions, they are nothing, but thieves and thugs!
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:00PM
Just the protests in Wisconsin made me furious! I would have fired every teacher who was there and I definitely wouldn't want those teacher's teaching my grandchildren!
richard ryan| 4.26.11 @ 8:37AM
Doctor Right,
It sounds like you have treated some Medicaid patients. Generally speaking, they are the most unappreciative, foul, vulgar, obese, smoke-ridden group of patients in any given Emergency Dept. You see, they get most of their care from the ER because they can't find a doctor to care for them. Drs LOSE money every time they see one of these losers- so many of them said f--- it. By the way, the government pays 3-4 times as much to treat these folks in the ER for any given complaint. Now Obamacare is basically a huge expansion of Medicaid (and a tens of thousands of pages of government rules and regulations. Nice.
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 9:53AM
And it's going to get even worse...
loulou| 4.26.11 @ 1:10PM
Most quality physicians do not accept Medicaid. Some will not take Medicare patients. More will follow.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:05PM
A friend of mine in West Texas tell her that most of the doctors in her area are getting out of private practice and going to the ER because of Obamacare, I can't blame them. As for me, I will pay the fine as I am a Senior and I am not going to have some jerk tell me to go home and die so I am Not going to take Obamacare. Just another government scam!
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 4.26.11 @ 9:56AM
NICE!!! Tell us how you REALLY feel! lol
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 4.26.11 @ 9:57AM
Who is John Galt?
Patrick| 4.27.11 @ 7:13AM
John Galt is fiction.
cowgirl| 4.26.11 @ 11:27AM
Amen brother!
Nancy G Murdoch| 4.26.11 @ 12:14PM
I couldn't have said it better!
WL| 4.26.11 @ 10:17PM
Dear Doctor Right...
While I am grieved to watch this spectacle play out...every now and then someone really makes me understand that I am not alone in recognition of the horror the country is enduring.
Your post said everything I think EVERY DAY.
Thanks for the indignation, and we will win this fight...
Even if we have to fight it once their foolishness brings it all down...
I always find hope in the truths that:
1. They really are the sloths
2. Their policies are the path to destruction
3. WE REALLY ARE THE PRODUCERS...and THEREBY MORE PRODUCTIVE
That truth can be clouded and hidden for a time, but in the end...when we get our fellow producers on line....
WE are the the ones who have won the wars...WE are the ones who built this place...WE are the reason we all have what we have....AND WE WILL LAST IN THE LONG RUN...
We just have to have patience, because there are a great deal of mental blocks our folks have to shed before our power can be directed at the virus...and the Virus is bringing about that awakening quicker than they realize.
HillbillieNurse| 4.27.11 @ 10:21AM
ROFLMAOPIMP!!! You not only NAILED it sir, you are personally responsible for my possibly having to purchase another keyboard, as I spewed my coffee on this one, whilst having the best laugh I have had in ages! Good on ya! :-)
Dave | 4.26.11 @ 1:50PM
This is yet another judicial example as to why "lifetime" appointments to ANYTHING, ultimately, is like having no cure for a fatal disease. Once the patient is infected, there's no other course of action (or choice) for removing a growing lesion or terminal cancer. After the final prognosis is delivered, the doctor will be out playing golf and not return to the office until sometime Wednesday afternoon. Or later.
Sidebar: Anyone actually think Obama getting his designated waterboy, (or should I say person of alternative sexual orientation), Elena Kagen planted on that bench as strictly a judicial method of planting her fat b-side in the path of extracting this national health scam?
"Recuse myself? I don't got to do no stinkin' recuse.
I guess in the end, ALL of these privileged, black robbs will vote with the left if voting the other way meant having to give up an exclusive D.C. party invitation. I mean, in the end, who on that bench really cares. See, when the dealin's done and that tornado finally rolls over downtown Mayberry, they'll all be safely inside a D.C. clubhouse, suckin' down a few frosty Margaritas at the ol' 19th hole.
Ain't being an elite ... grand?
SoCon| 4.26.11 @ 2:25PM
We can't depend on the Courts!! If we want to destroy ObamaCare we are going to have to keep the House, retake the Senate in a super majority and nominate and elect a true Conservative for POTUS.
WE have to do it.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:16PM
We need to get all the RINO's out of the Republican and those Repubs with no backbone. Term Limits and how about voting the average Joe into office instead of all the low life lawyers?
old white guy| 4.30.11 @ 10:56AM
it is bloody amazing. the u.s. is going bankrupt and the pigs are still at the trough.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.26.11 @ 6:44AM
The Republicans are wasting their time going after Obamacare, which the courts are handling, and trying to defend the Defense of Marriage Act. Both big time wasters in a time of economic instability.
What they should focus on is jobs. People really don't care right now about the other two in deference to jobs.
It's a mistake to waste political capital on anything other then the economy.
Southern_Comment| 4.26.11 @ 7:00AM
Obamacare is a major jobs killer - as was the moratorium in the Gulf, as is any of his 'I will destroy America' policies. If they don't go after these policies any work towards policies that are 'job creators' will be null and void by policies such as Obamacare. He's create so many fires that putting them all out to begin to move forward is another biproduct of this disasterous presidency. . . just a huge waste of time with no ability to move forward - just watch the left hand forget what the right hand is doing.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.26.11 @ 7:11AM
I'm sure that the political maxim that Obamacare is a jobs killer will be a great comfort to someone who doesn't have a job.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.26.11 @ 7:11AM
I'm sure that the political maxim that Obamacare is a jobs killer will be a great comfort to someone who doesn't have a job.
Drunken Sailor| 4.26.11 @ 11:33AM
About as much comfort to someone who loses a job because of it. You treat the symptom without treating a life threating cancer, you still end up with a dead patient.
vtwin| 4.26.11 @ 4:02PM
Before Obama took office, before anyone ever hear of “Obamacare,” job were being “killed” at a rate of 750,000/month, the national debt was over $10 trillion and projected to climb at a $1.2 trillion annual rate, over 45,000,000 WORKING Americans had no healthcare, and the middle class economically had been in free fall since the Reagan years.
But, don’t let the facts get in the way.
John Navratil| 4.26.11 @ 4:51PM
vtwin,
According to the AFL-CIO, that's 47 million AMERICANS, not working Americans. According to the CEPR (another lefty bunch) that's 17% of workers (up from 7%, 30 years ago), or 20 million workers.
But, don’t let the facts get in the way.
vtwin| 4.26.11 @ 5:31PM
Touché (aka "Ya got me!").
Connor| 4.26.11 @ 7:50PM
Nice lie, nice try, troll.
investorcs| 4.27.11 @ 12:09AM
Yes, Obama is simply the latest horror in a decades-long line of progressive insanity, including, I might add, that miserable right-wing liberal neocon Bush.
btims| 4.26.11 @ 8:13AM
How does government create jobs? That is nonsense. The only thing government can do is make the business "climate" more hospitable to starting and growing businessess. But today, far too many people have been raised in school and through the media to resent and despise making profit and accumulating wealth. The more wealth one accumulates, the less one needs govt/politicians.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.26.11 @ 9:39AM
This is why the Republicans are doomed. That's right. The government can't create jobs.
But they better realize that perception is far more valuable than reality. They need to forget the impossible and jump on the pubic angst about the economy.
Otherwise they will find themselves in the minority once again. Perhaps they like it there.
They can steal the small crumbs in the billions and let the Democrats steal the trillions.
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 10:33AM
I agree the "climate" is important.
But let's understand why businesses outsourced jobs in the first place: cost and favorable conditions on the ground.
The Canadian auto sector is as robust as it has ever been, the wages are high, but so is productivity. The other difference, costs of healthcare for businesses in Canada are a mere fraction of the costs for a business in the US. GM estimated their healthcare costs at over $4B annually for US workers several years ago, that's minimum $1500 per car. Canada is approximately $300 -500 per car with similar wages costs and higher productivity and a better infrastructure for plants and their supporting parts suppliers expanding this disparity further.
China Brazil and Canada have INVESTED heavily in infrastructure in both people and materiel over the years and they deserve credit if jobs and businesses come their way.
We here in the US stopped investing for growth right around the first house burning in Detroit in 1968. Shame on us a promoters of business for not seeing we are being beat at our own game.
Cut health costs, invest in infrastructure and develop a skilled workforce. The jobs will return.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.26.11 @ 12:29PM
Quoting statistics is absolutely meaningless to the unemployed. Public sentiment is changing. It's not that they are for Obamacare. They want to see improvements in the economy. Complaining about Obamacare won't feed a hungry child, etc.
carnot| 4.26.11 @ 5:08PM
You're not following the full dynamic then. the people on the spending end are fed up with initiatives like Obominablecare and are reducing consumption to ensure unemployment doesn't abate - the regime's policies are doing the rest of the destructive work.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.26.11 @ 6:43PM
The full dynamic is that it's a waste of time. The Senate will block anything so essentially you're beating you're head against the wall while the public sees that maybe you're not too bright for worrying about that while the economy continues to founder.
The longest and strongest suit now is the economy and the Republicans better get there first or it won't make much difference.
The economy is running out of steam again and they should jump all over it.
vtwin| 4.26.11 @ 4:08PM
Canuckistani, I have to agree, at present the incentive is for outsourcing.
carnot| 4.26.11 @ 5:09PM
well...then...Obamacare is surely not the route to one of those "cures"
Southern_Comment| 4.26.11 @ 7:02AM
Not to mention that Obamacare keeps all of our politician's rockstar images alive and kickin'.
Dee See| 4.26.11 @ 7:04AM
OF course the first step to dealing with health
costs is ---to root out and prosecute the third
generation EUGENISTS at the top who are
not only demanding we take their 'tainted'
shots ----but are calling them generally.
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 7:18AM
Boehner and his cronies are AOL on their pledge to defund this monstrosity. The fact that Obama will veto it is irrelevant; force him to do so each and every week until the election!
Michael Tomlinson| 4.26.11 @ 8:31AM
The Republican House voted to repeal it as they promised. Defunding it is impossible as long as the Democrats control the Senate.
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 10:37AM
No, they promised to repeal and REPLACE....where's the bill?
Costs for businesses continue to rise, where is the GOP solution for businesses?
Oh yeah, it doesn't exist and the electorate knows it.
Connor| 4.26.11 @ 7:54PM
You're not even an American, ahole. What do you know qbout the "electorate?" Clown.
buckeyeman| 4.26.11 @ 9:02AM
I thought AOL was a global internet services and media company.
Carol| 4.26.11 @ 7:19AM
I cannot believe how Obama gets away with EVERYTHING.
We have no Justice Dept. unless you aren't white.
We have a bunch of spineless Republicans that have given funding towards Obamacare - although Steve King of Iowa found a way to go around the rules to prevent that from happening - but Boehner and David Dryer of CA didn't want to appear to break any rules EVEN THOUGH IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME! It's time like these you don't give a crap about appearing to be different from the left. You can only fight the left by being like the left!
I thought we had a lop-sided court. I guess not. I'm not keen on the Supreme Court but whoever was allowed to make the decision it was purposeful in my opinion because anybody with commonsense wouldn't want to see America destroyed by Obamacare. Stupid ME!
I've had it.
I hope all wealthy people leave our shores.
I hope all producers say screw it - I'm going John Galt.
We have turned in a nation of wimps at a time we can't least afford it.
We are all on our own.
White people: Look forward to having a New Black Panther decide if you are worthy of a surgery that could save your life.
buckeyeman| 4.26.11 @ 9:04AM
Where would you go??
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 10:38AM
....back into his momma's basement.
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 11:48AM
Or maybe to some Central Asian shit-hole that ends with "-stan"? Someplace ruled by medieval Muslim savages?
Negro X| 4.26.11 @ 6:44PM
Back to momma's basement whrer he could observe you sitting in the corenr licking and sniffing your fingers after you pulled them from you anus.
Carol| 4.26.11 @ 12:49PM
I hope you aren't a libtard like other 2 below your post.
I'm not a wealthy person.
I'm one of the people who works for a producer.
I'm not going anywhere.
I will bear the burden like the rest of morons in this country but at this point I wish only bad things happen to the bad people - like Barack "Insane" Obama and George Soros.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:36PM
Absolutely right Carol! Yet it is Obama's Comrades throwing out the Race Card to those of us who disagree with Obama and his policies. Obama gets away with the garbage that he has passed by Executive Order which by the way the Congress can override, but most of them are so gutless that they don't even challenge Obama. We can only pray that 2012 comes quickly and that we vote this Marxist anti-American jerk out of office.
Have you considered| 4.26.11 @ 7:28AM
US Constitution Art 3, Sec 2 states " In all cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Counsels, and those in which a State shall be a Party, the supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction"
I really thought that the case should go directly to the SCOTUS as obviously a State is a Party.
This is a travesty IMHO....I started to write..a travesty of justice.. but there is no justice in our legal system.
Lastly, as the GOP campaigned on repeal (which they have done at the House level) but that they continue to allow funds to flow to implementation of, at this moment, an Unconstitutional law is also a travesty.
Thanx GOP!
Mimi| 4.26.11 @ 7:31AM
The BLACK-ROBES have put us on HOLD! The un-certainty will continue......These are dark days for AMERICA....Have we been abandoned?? To what good will become this delay..? My GOD... MY GOD .... why have you abandoned us...THY WILL BE DONE..? HEH JUDGES..."Do your JOB" !!! Your country is calling !
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 11:04AM
Are you certain they are not doing God's work?
I didn't know you were that wise to presume God's intentions.....
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 11:49AM
Well, we know FOR SURE that he's not a Muslim.
Therefore, His intentions would be against Obama.
Connor| 4.26.11 @ 7:55PM
What would a godless freak like you know about God?
Ken (Old Texican)| 4.26.11 @ 7:40AM
Texas may just demand a waiver.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 4.26.11 @ 9:54AM
Perry 2012. Just sayin'.
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 11:49AM
I'm ALL OVER THAT ONE!!!!
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 10:41AM
Oh I certainly hope so....secession next which would free us from ever considering a Texan for president ever again.
Watching the state become majority Hispanic within 30 years will also be my selfish reward.
Texas is good for one thing: infantry, and maybe cheerleaders.
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 11:51AM
And what, besides wife-beating, chattel slavery, pig-ignorance, and idolatry is the crap-hole that spawned you good for?
And if it's so great over there, WHY are you and so many of your savage, heathen, Muslim brethren flocking to the west?
Hmmmmmmmmm?????
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 4:49PM
huh?
I'm probably more Christian than you and a lover of my country, America, probably more than you.
Disagree? Prove it.
carnot| 4.26.11 @ 5:13PM
hollow words. you wear a target on both sides and don't even know it yet....speaking of self-awareness.
darcy| 4.26.11 @ 5:40PM
That's a nice sense of humor you've got there, Canuckistani: "cheerleaders." Looking on the bright side, I see.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:40PM
I hope we do, but I would rather see Texas Secede.
Melvin| 4.26.11 @ 8:08AM
Many of you thought I had lost my senses, when I uttered the word, "Secession."
I am not putting this in the same context as the War Between the States, or remotely comparing it to that time in history.
I am talking about a Socialist Liberal, and Progressive ideology that is and has been crammed down our throats since the end of World War Two.
Socialized Health Care is just the beginning. They'll be other Obama's elected President and there will be other Nancy Pelosi's making back-room deals to pass oppressive legislation.
People.....As a Conservative I cannot live under a oppressive ideology like that.
I knew the Republicans were only going to put a half hearted attempt into fighting Socialized Health Care. As one Progressive Republican put it, "We don't want to repeal the entire law, we just want to tweak it."
That confirmed my suspicions of Progressive Republican elitists supporting Obama Care albeit publicly scorning it.
The Republican Party Leadership in it's current form hasn't the heart or desire to fight this scourge that is spreading like a dark evil cloud upon this Country.
The only hope that we Conservatives have is to band together in Conservative States and Secede from the Socialist Democrat, and Progressive Republican Elitist Union.
As I had said before the only way we can drive a stake through the heart of Socialism and European Progressivism is to deny it tax payer funding. Let the Democrats and the Progressive Republicans fund their own hellish big government ideology.
I do not want or want for my grandchildren to die a death of a thousand Socialists and Progressive cuts.
I do not want to wait for the lawyers to take their course with this Obama Care, besides the lawyers are the ones who got us into this stinking morass to begin with.
I'm tired of being mocked, called stupid, because I believe in a smaller less intrusive government. I'm tired of working, and working, paying taxes after taxes, fee after fee and I still am told that I must sacrifice even more.
Hell no!!!! I'm not sacrificing anymore, I'm going to join with like minded thinkers are we are going to form the Union of Conservative States of America, that will be founded upon the principles that our founding fathers put forth into the Constitution.
As of April 26, 2011 in the year of our Lord, I hereby revoke my consent to be governed by all US government bodies, agencies, and Czars.
You might think the above is crazy. But it is no more crazier than the thirst for freedom that the future American citizens thought in 1776.
VBMax| 4.26.11 @ 8:24AM
Totally agree....we can't co-exist with the opressors.
Louis Jenkins| 4.26.11 @ 8:51AM
Melvin:
How do we go about withdrawing from the Union without firing a shot? A. Lincoln, bless his short sighted heart, made the nation as one, and saved the Union. Obviously voting is our only choice, and it is a poor one. It is all we have and we keep butting our head against a stone wall. I said that this passed election would be critical, but the next one will be even more so. A revolution takes time, and we are short of it.
Melvin| 4.26.11 @ 9:03AM
Louis I have read your posts for a good many years now. "We always have a choice."
Remember not that long ago, if someone said the word, "Secession," they were immediately and publicly branded a crazy heretic. Nowadays more and more people are starting to mouth that very word, maybe not in public, but they are thinking about it, and they are not so quick to dissuade it, like they used to.
Secession doesn't necessarily mean an armed conflict. A revolution can take many forms, we are in the beginnings of that now, and Americans are at least thinking about it, they're thinking about their and their children's future, and they don't currently like what they see.
The winds of revolution are here my good Louis, but the catalyst to turn those winds into a tornado, has not yet arrived.
There is one thing that is in stone, that no one can change. We cannot co-exist with the Social Democrats and European Progressive Republican Elites any more.
Shermans riding again!| 4.26.11 @ 4:51PM
I am glad to hear from a fellow mind American. Their are many of us out there.
darcy| 4.26.11 @ 5:49PM
I'm with you, Melvin, and have been for a long time. The system is rigged against us. We are cornered and have no hope of reversal, what with the Republican Party languishing in the Progressive ether.
Secession or emigration. But I'm not putting up with this sh*t for much longer before I bolt. My ancestors left Europe in the 1600s to find a better life, and the devil himself has now polluted the well. We cannot live amongst the left who daily sabotage our freedoms and purposefully and gleefully destroy our country. We cannot. I will not.
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 11:00AM
You can secede without firing a shot by just proposing it: "we want to leave" answer: buh-bye.
Remember: Texas would be a net importer of energy and water. The Feds own the oil in the gulf and the electical corridors from OK and other parts are under federal law as well.
The Texas farming incomes are depressed and climate change will have a detrimental effect on the "nation's" ability to sustain it without impinging on US and Mexican interests.
The Mexican border would be as porous as ever, and adopting a radical anti-immigrant stance will only drive Texas' fate as a geriatric bastion more quickly - thus eroding growth even further.
Texas financial power has been underpinned by federal pork for generations and the flight to Dubai and other tax havens would only accelerate.
Texas is home to aerospace and other high tech that see the US government as their #1 customer. Would Texans allow their industry to suddenly see China and other dubious states as happy partners? I doubt it.
Until Perry, Texans were typically net payers to the federal government, since then they are net debtors.
Let me see the plan to replace this revenue before we get all misty over the Lonestar flag flying again.
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 11:09AM
...oh and take your share of national debt with you, that's about $1.1T.
Good luck supporting your bond rating.
Melvin| 4.26.11 @ 11:18AM
You mean the 1.1 Trillion debt that you and your fellow like thinkers created? No thanks junior, you created this mess, you pay for it.
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 4:53PM
If by Junior you mean Dubya? Then yes, you are correct. Hopefully the last Texan EVER to succeed in bamboozling for national office.
He inherited a surplus - or do you forget that in your boozy fog of nostalgia, and quickly p!ssed it away. His watch, his albatross, our bane.
Hamilton Lucas| 4.27.11 @ 9:46PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F....._Trend.svg
When I look at the chart above I see a lot of debt generated by republicans.
carnot| 4.26.11 @ 5:15PM
so....then...let's get to CA. ooops...it seems there is more to the dynamic than your truncated checklist has time to address.
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 11:53AM
Hey, dim-wit...If Texas were to secede, it would take a large portion of the Gulf Coast with it...And since Texas supplies MORE personnel to the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines than all other states, I don't think the gutless Feds in Washington would have the stones to intervene.
Oh, and one other thing...They don't like Muslims down in Texas, so you wouldn't be welcome.
canuckistani| 4.26.11 @ 5:06PM
Like I said, good infantry and cheerleaders, that's all. I suggest we offer cash money for a Texas foreign legion. They're always messin' for a fight, so the cash army would be an interesting option for us to continue our projection of power. They just might be dumb enough to do it for chow and no benefits.
As for the coast, their rights would extend to the 5-mile marine exclusion zone, doc - just like other banana republics like Guyana or Panama.
Ain't no more Texas Tea in those areas....and you also reminded me that the rest of country would no longer have to deal with Juarez or the FEMA sucking sound every time the wind blows on South Padre. You can bet that the brother hicks in bama, Nola and Pensacola would gladly take federal dollars to replace the dilapidated infrastructure on the Texas coast.
Also, would any aerospace company remain in Texas without a dupe buyer, and would the NFL/MLB/NCAA allow foreign clubs into the league? That would be the dealbreaker for any real Umerican still residing in Texas, in my stunted exotic view.
As for Muslims, it is just the sycophantic masses that have an issue with Muslims. Watching Taliban shaking hands with Conoco execs in Houston, Junior holding hands with fast bastard Saud and Cheney moving Halliburton to Dubai is all the evidence I need that the people are stupid down there and the smart ones have already sold out.
carnot| 4.26.11 @ 5:16PM
sounds like a plan! to whom in TX do we pass your home address ?
Ken (Old Texican)| 4.26.11 @ 9:39AM
Melvin,
I just finished reading a fascinating novel (copyrighted this year)
"State Of Rebellion" by Gordon Ryan.
I encourage everyone to read it. You can download it to your computers from amazon.com
PS: has everyone gotten their complimentary part two of "America Alone Said No" ?
If not, contact me at sales@texassaidno.com
Al Adab| 4.26.11 @ 11:44AM
Our Canuck doesn't understand that exports from Texas to the US would raise enough revenue to actually cover that debt. Build a couple nuclear plants out past pecos or Lamesa and power up the grid. Open those West Texas wells and oh yeah, build a refinery or two to process the imports the US needs that port of Houston can handle the load. Gotta love this stuff.
Ken (Old Texican)| 4.26.11 @ 12:38PM
Al Adab
I always get a chuckle out of canukistanis' ignorant talking points and wrong numbers.
Texas is a huge net exporter of energy. We are totally self-sufficient in crops and a huge exporter of beef.
We (uniquely) own our offshore oil fields as well.
I don't quite see us actually secceding, unless the communists, (pardon the shorthand), force us to... but I can easily see Texas taking our rightful and lawful steps to divide into FIVE States and sending TEN Senators to Washington.
OOPS!
Al Adab| 4.26.11 @ 3:28PM
I can see the eight new senators but be careful of those Uvalde types. We need Conservatives n0t LBJ's Man that would shake up the Senate.
carnot| 4.26.11 @ 5:19PM
more than that...don't doubt for a moment that a lot of high level talent wouldn't make the move to TX once the opportunity to escape the Fed shackles presented itself. free, empowered people can move mountains.
Impeach Don't Wait| 4.26.11 @ 3:49PM
It just occurred to me that the main objection I have to Obamacare is that, with the government having so much control over healthcare decisions, I feel no less than "trapped." Which is to say the overall effect is that of being less than FREE! That alone is the most "American" argument against such a system. No American should be forced into such a situation in his land--the land of the free (well, except war, I guess, which is a matter of national survival).
That alone should make it obvious that this is against our founding principles--and is unconstitutional (IMHO).
Melvin: You said: "Union of Conservative States of America, that will be founded upon the principles that our Founders put forth into the Constitution."
Just an idea: I think we should remain "The United States Of America" as the Founders ordained, and we should make the socialists choose a different name for THEIR country. Then we can finally close our borders!
Ore Gone| 4.26.11 @ 6:52PM
I agree wholeheartedly! They are the ones that want to transform the USA into some sort of Socialist crap heap. They can be the USSA.
investorcs| 4.27.11 @ 12:19AM
Melvin, thank God someone else understands... I've reluctantly come to the same conclusions for a while now.
The Founders did not foresee our government being progressively hijacked by a vicious political minority that would redefine contempt for the law as a "living Constitution". Consequently, the Founders gave us no in-place mechanism to cut back the ever-encroaching bloated monstrosity called the federal government. It is very late in the day to try to save our Republic. At its core, the left consists of lawlessness and immorality. There is no way to reason with their pursuit of raw power, and any attempt to compromise simply means that the rest of us lose again, only at a slower pace. We have very few options open. Therefore (and as a superset of Melvin's reasoning), I propose the following plan of action:
1) Organized civil disobedience, e.g., at a community local level, withhold payment into an escrow account of taxes going to schools, but ensure that you have conservative legal counsel in place (preferably pro bono) before you start.
2) Nullification at any and all governmental levels up to and including the state; e.g., ignore any court order from any judge who interprets a “living Constitution”. Note that progressives have already successfully done this, e.g., open immigration or sanctuary cities.
3) Secession, perhaps at the county level, but especially at the state level. The end result?.. consider proposals already being made at such blogs as View from the Right: An expanded proposal to divide America into two countries.
These three actions are inherently tied together; they support each other such that where one leaves off another begins. These are also the kind of things that could be discussed at a convention called to draft a new Declaration of Independence. The time has come for the Tea Party to draft that declaration, and then draft some type of supporting federalist papers, after which they must put together a new Constitutional convention.
No more playing defense. We need a vast organized right-wing conspiracy, a strategy and tactics of offense and a new beginning, and we need it now.
Hamilton Lucas| 4.27.11 @ 9:49PM
I call it treason.
Vic| 4.27.11 @ 10:42PM
And what do you call the subversion of the constitution by a gang of Marxist?
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:47PM
Melvin, I am with you and I couldn't have said it any better. I am sick and tired of putting elected officials in office and have them work for the other side. I don't owe the Obama's, Reid's or Pelosi's everything that I worked hard for all my working life!
Michael Tomlinson| 4.26.11 @ 8:29AM
Thanks to Obama's on failed economic policies he's laid the groundwork for a repeal in the 2013 Republican Congress and White House.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:49PM
Hopefully you are wrong. I am waiting for Obama to declare Martial Law and then there will be no election and I believe that he will do this if he is losing in the polls.
somnolence| 4.26.11 @ 8:50AM
My two favorite states, Indiana and Texas will never enact a blanket enforcement of it. That is about the same as a waiver. The IRS Commissioner has already said they won't go out of the way enforcing the fines, so the penalty issue is bogus, especially in light of all the said waivers. We may not need a SCOTUS ruling after all.
somnolence| 4.26.11 @ 8:50AM
My two favorite states, Indiana and Texas will never enact a blanket enforcement of it. That is about the same as a waiver. The IRS Commissioner has already said they won't go out of the way enforcing the fines, so the penalty issue is bogus, especially in light of all the said waivers. We may not need a SCOTUS ruling after all.
buckeyeman| 4.26.11 @ 10:26AM
"My two favorite states, Indiana and Texas will never enact a blanket enforcement of it. That is about the same as a waiver"
Maybe, but what a bassackwards way of dealing with it. "...about the same as a waiver." Wow! Now there's a statement. But not exactly "Don't Tread on Me". Is there not a single state willing to simply and openly declare DEFIANCE to the federal juggernaut? Would Obama send federal troops to quell a peaceful act of civil disobedience by an entire state? Ah, but does anyone have the cojones to bring "states rights" back into the conversation? I fear the answer is "no", but at this point, I believe the only hope for salvation is on a state-level basis. Mobilize forces (state militias, if need be) and stand up to the usurpers of state power. Otherwise, we are cooked and there's no place to run to.
Al Adab| 4.26.11 @ 11:47AM
What are we up to now, about 33 states suing over this plan? All they need to do is adopt the no play statute that Texas, Ariz. and some others have passed. By refusing (politly) to accomodate this federal takeover of private business, we can end this madness.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:52PM
Gov. Perry has said that secession for Texas is not off the table. Obama can send troops, but he is not over our Texas National Guard and there are Militias popping up all over. Texas will fight!
Anthony| 4.26.11 @ 9:11AM
Doctor Right and others are correct. It is long past time that Boehner steps up and acts like a leader, and not a visored accounting fraud. The Rs in congress are merely watching the Titanic head for the icegberg with tepid complaints.
Step up Messrs. Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy or we'll step in for you. You will not like the results, I assure you.
squalis| 4.26.11 @ 9:35AM
The House Repubs should have shut down the gov't, and left it closed until dramatic concessions obtained from the Dem's, or until new management arrives in 2013, whichever came first. Still an option with the debt ceiling. We'll see whay the House Repubs really are.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 4.26.11 @ 9:41AM
You're right.
Al Adab| 4.26.11 @ 11:49AM
The GOP won't do it, they don't have the huevos. It will take the Conservatives to make a stand and end this. Once there are enough of them Liberty may yet be reborn. Pray for it, if He still hears the cry of this idolotrous nation.
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 11:55AM
2012 may be the END of the GOP as a political force in American politics. If they try to screw the Tea Party and Conservatives again, they will bleed membership...
...And maybe that's a good thing. Before we can destroy Liberals and Socialism, we need to purify our own ranks, first.
darcy| 4.26.11 @ 5:55PM
Well said, Doctor Right. And every time the nay-sayers start blathering about a purity test, we say, Hell Yes!
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 4:54PM
The Repubs said they didn't close down the government because Obama said he would cut off funds to our troops, no suprise there. Let him cut off funds to our Military one time and he has just slit his own throat.
A. C. Santore| 4.26.11 @ 9:47AM
Hamlet again. How many on his list of "unbearables" apply directly to this government?
"For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th' oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despis'd love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th' unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would these fardels bear. . . ."
Spooky. You could almost think Shakespeare was a time-traveler.
Bill| 4.26.11 @ 11:19AM
Yes, I particularly hate those pesky fardels.
J.C.Eaton| 4.26.11 @ 9:51AM
Perhaps Secession is the all-wrong term, if not utter pipe dream[how many high-octane politicians would go near the idea with a 10-foot pole?]. Somehow, the idea of massive "civil disobedience" has both a better resonance and end-runs the politicians.
darcy| 4.26.11 @ 5:57PM
What do you have in mind for "massive civil disobedience"?
Connor| 4.26.11 @ 7:58PM
Glenn Beck's got something brewing--just wait and see.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 4.26.11 @ 9:52AM
Very good analysis by Mr. Catron.
The "CLASS" act is a sign of things to come. It's all moving towards completely socialized "healthcare" from the cradle to the grave. Or at least mandated, if not ran by the State.
Something MUST happen.
Brian Mc| 4.26.11 @ 9:59AM
I just watched "Gangs of New York" again, last night. I believe that it might be time for me to finally admit the fact that I need to invest in an AR-15. The rats are in the grain stores as the termites feast on the putrefying foundation of this great house. My heart cries out for the Republic of my youth; where we still had a fighting chance. Alas, the incrementalism of the left has defeated responsibility, conscientiousness, self-determination, common sense and right-thinking. Good has become evil and Christianity has become vile...let the circuses begin.
We are so screwed
Pete| 4.26.11 @ 10:10AM
Find some good gun and ammo stocks and keep your finger on the buy button if Osama wins in 2012.
Frisbee| 4.27.11 @ 9:28PM
did you notice that you wrote "Osama"?
Wayne | 4.26.11 @ 12:37PM
As we know, The Gangs, just went into politics.
carnot| 4.26.11 @ 5:23PM
too late...Obama and Holder sold all the armaments to Mexican cartels.
Ted| 4.26.11 @ 10:45AM
It always was a longshot to get the court to take the case now. This is a process which will be decided partly by the courts, partly by the Congress, and partly by the Executive.
If conservatives do well in 2012 in the legislative and executive branches, many of the regulations will be rescinded. It happens all the time with a new administration. The way the political winds seem to be staying (and continuing to shift) in that direction.
To paraphrase Churchill, this isn't the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning.
Ned| 4.26.11 @ 11:06AM
My youngest son graduates from college in June - and managed to make it through without having his mind totally fouled by the brain-dead left on campus... now guess who the commencement speaker is going to be....
Kathleen Sebelius.
I *have to go* for him, but I think I may just puke.
Pete| 4.26.11 @ 11:40AM
That's horrifying. What sort of inspirational message could she possibly give? "Join the elite in the federal government so you can spend other people's money your whole life and not really produce anything."
Doctor Right| 4.26.11 @ 11:56AM
I'd get tossed for heckling...I couldn't resist.
The Clintidote| 4.26.11 @ 9:29PM
You and your son need to stand up and turn your backs on that bitch for her entire presence on stage.
He's graduated; they can't hurt him, or you, now. Stand up to the cow!
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 5:00PM
I feel your pain Ned, I am so sorry.
Bill| 4.26.11 @ 11:17AM
The unwillingness of us to deal with reforming Social Security and Medicare should tell us what's going to happen to us if Obamacare goes into full effect and gets its talons fully into us.
Son of Liberty| 4.26.11 @ 11:49AM
This will go down as the legacy of George Bush and the RINO's. Their abandonment of conservative principles, their profligate spending and their nomination of John McCain lost the conservatives the 2008 election, gaves us Obama who gave us health reform on the one hand and Sotomayor and Kagan to protect it on the other. They lost the country and the Court in one fell swoop. May we oust most of the remaining RINOs in 2012 and may a Bush never get near the presidency again.
Kent Lyon| 4.26.11 @ 12:19PM
Article 3 Section 2 of the US Constitution specifies that the Supreme Court has primary jurisidiction over lawsuits to which a State is a party, particularly when the State has a dispute with the Federal Government. Rarely in the history of the nation has such a specific dispute as the individual mandate to purchase health insurance been present between the federal government and a State (the State of Virginia here, whose law bars such a mandate). The Supreme Court has primary or original jurisdiction in this case (which it has abrogated). That it would refuse expedited review is an egregious dereliction of duty and a violation of the US Constitution. The Supreme Court is acting unconstitutionally. Is anyone concerned about this? The Court's refusal of expedited review is not justice delayed and hence justice denied: It is injustice perpetrated by the highest court in the land. This Constitutional Court is acting Unconstitutionally and in so doing harming the nation irrevocably. Why would anyone respect any court ruling in a nation so completely inurred to its own Constitutional requirements? The nation of Honduras admirably stood for the rule of law and it's Constitution recently in the ouster of a president who vitiated their Constitution. What will America do about it's ruling class that completely dismisses America's Constitution?
George S| 4.26.11 @ 12:37PM
The states are not the parties harmed; this is about individual freedom being attacked by the insurance mandate. The fact that VA initiated the suit does not make this a state issue. In fact, that could be the thread SCOTUS hangs their ruling on should they lean towards upholding -- VA has no standing to bring suit.
Almost every federal law impacts state government in one form or another. An individual seeking redress against a federal law may find himself turned away at the District court citing primary jurisprudence if we take the phrase "in which a State is a party" literally.
Vic| 4.27.11 @ 10:52PM
I understand the mandate conflicts with a law of the commonwealth. If this is the case, then yes, Virginia does have standing in this case.
Wayne | 4.26.11 @ 12:35PM
Doesn't matter. We don't have the money. And by 2014 we will be bankrupt. The Supreme Court is a joke. We are a presidential dictatorship.
Ken (Old Texican)| 4.26.11 @ 12:51PM
Wayne,
I certainly hear you. One thing you have overlooked. One cannot be a "dictator" with an armed populace that has lived in liberty. That would-be dictator cannot survive.
As Robert Heinlein once said, "You cannot enslave a free man. You can only kill him."
You need to buy my new e-book.
www.americaalonesaidno.com
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 5:17PM
Ken, I understand the next thing that Obama will be going after is our guns and I only have two words for him, "Bend Over."
RAMIII| 4.26.11 @ 12:43PM
"fas·cism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ Show Spelled[fash-iz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, media, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism."
In order for fascism to be implemented it requires economic AND social chaos/disorder so the elites can enforce the rules that they make up.
This. is. the. aim. and. goal. in. this. administration.
Big Business/Banks/Labor/Media are in full support of this because they also will attain more power.
Start looking for Wesley Mouch!
SpiralArchitect| 4.26.11 @ 4:13PM
Indeed.
Oldefarte| 4.26.11 @ 1:40PM
With a 60%+ DISAPPROVAL rating among the public, this delayed decision [by June/2012] will result in a Republican victory in November of 2012!!!!!
Anommynous| 4.26.11 @ 2:46PM
Nah, I don't agree. One more year won't be too long to kill Obamacare. One year isn't long enough for people to become inured to it, much less like it. People and businesses will still hate Obamacare in a year, so Obamacare will be, must be killed in 2012-2013, either by the courts or by the newly elected Republican POTUS and majorities in Congress. This will be our one chance to kill it for good before it's too late, and we need to give it everything we've got. I'm not going to give in without a fight.
e cowan| 4.26.11 @ 2:56PM
Obviously the Republicans can no longer hide behind the hope that the Supreme Court will do the job for them. They MUST step up to the plate and - stop once and for all - by defunding - or by whatever means that will work - ObamaCare.
Before it's too late!
Oldefarte| 4.26.11 @ 4:39PM
IMO, anyone/everyone dependent upon the legal system, the courts, lawyers. the SCOTUS for anything is in serious need of a cranium replacement!!!!!!!!!!!
Jack London| 4.26.11 @ 3:11PM
The only thing that's metastastizing here is the virulent hate-filled cancer of the extreme right, which doesn't even realize that most of Obama's policies are Republican in origin. If you had any pride you'd forget the GOP and set up your party - or join your friends in the Aryan Brotherhood.
George S| 4.26.11 @ 3:29PM
And the law being ruled unconstitutional is but a minor inconvenience.
Oldefarte| 4.26.11 @ 4:40PM
Why don't you go join your friends in....ACORN????????
RAMIII| 4.26.11 @ 6:09PM
Jack L. -- Brilliant reply!! "Name Calling" always wins the argument.
Actually ObamaCare is OWNED by President Barack Obama -- he pushed it through with his stooges in a DEMOCRAT controlled congress without a single republican vote -- then we had November where the democrats had their a**es handed to them.
We are just asking the republicans to look past winning the elections and provide consistent leadership on these matters.
Connor| 4.26.11 @ 8:04PM
LOL! Yes, we saw the peace-loving Leftist Union thugs and goons screaming their filthy epithets and death threats in Wisconsin. Their violent tactics are Marxist in origin. Stinkin' troll.
darcy| 4.26.11 @ 5:20PM
Count me out. I'll emigrate before I let ANYONE tell me what to do as regards my healthcare, and steal my money to prop up favored constituencies and Communize the country.
Commie America can go to hell for all I care if this is what it's come to.
This is a very dark day for our beloved country, the final nail in the coffin of EVERYTHING that America ever was -- if it is not reversed.
I just love the way the Marxist a**holes have taken off the gloves and shown themselves for the wicked pieces of offal they are. Makes it easier to go after them. Blowback is a bitch.
Connor| 4.26.11 @ 8:04PM
Yep and it's coming.
Nite| 4.26.11 @ 9:19PM
The Republican controlled House can defund Obamacare, but the Democrat controlled Senate and of course Obama will block it. Consequently, the only way to block Obama, EPA, and radical Czars, is to give control of the Senate and President to Republicans. Believe me, they are much better than what the Democrats and Obama is doing to us right now. It is a disgrace that Obama has given a recess appointment to Dr. Donald Berwick twice. I thought that was only allowed for one time. This dangerous man could not even be confirmed by the Democratic controlled Senate last year. What does that tell you?
The Clintidote| 4.26.11 @ 9:26PM
If The Weeper of the House, Mr. Boner, had any balls this monstrosity would already be dead and buried, starved of money.
The GOPussies need to go away and die before our country does.
bluecollarbytes| 4.26.11 @ 9:41PM
If Republican careerists are lucky, they won't have to oppose obamascare because it will be a fait accompli. Then they can work on 'improving its efficiency', cutting out the ole wastefraudnabuse. In the future, Republicans running for office will deny PopMedia's and Democratic's accusations that they want to kill obamascare thereby killing off all the po folk.
Leveut| 4.26.11 @ 10:17PM
"After all that, assuming the Court agrees to hear one of the cases, the justices will "hear argument in the spring of 2012, and issue a decision by the end of June 2012.""
No. The court will wait until after the 2012 elections to render a decision so that the decision will not "affect the political process."
WL| 4.26.11 @ 10:46PM
Folks...this is a longshot BUT....
There is a SMALL EENCY WEENCY Chance that it is a good thing....
REMEMBER:
Virginia's lower court ruling only struck down the Individual Mandate...
Florida's case STRUCK DOWN THE WHOLE THING.
This is basically the same makeup as those that took Bush Vs. Gore and Citizens United....
They could be letting this halfway ruling go by...
TO TAKE THE HOME RUN EARLY.
Just a thought.
investorcs| 4.27.11 @ 12:27AM
The left wants to scare grandma into thinking that only government can take care of her, but government is not some sympathetic person, it is a mindless bureaucratic juggernaut that doles out limited largess to one set of faceless statistics forcibly stolen from another set of faceless statistics. Whenever it decides there's not enough to go around, it relies on a handy death panel (the IPAB) to relieve grandma of her suffering.
In the final analysis progressives don't really give a damn whether grandma lives or dies... all they care about is whether government makes the decision. If I were grandma, I'd be very afraid of government taking care of me. Government will take care of grandma alright, as they serve her up on the state sacrificial altar of 'fairness'.
Equality is theft... fairness is death.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 5:33PM
Amen!
Osamas Pajamas| 4.27.11 @ 1:56AM
Time for the victims of OhBummerCare to come out shooting.
Osamas Pajamas| 4.27.11 @ 2:00AM
Only one thing can forestall and probably prevent a Trump third-party vote split --- and that's for the Republicans to trump Trump --- with someone who has bigger balls and no fear of slamming head-on into the Democrat-captured media and knocking them out of their frkn chairs.
WeMustResist| 4.27.11 @ 5:37AM
The main argument against Obamacare is compelling. It is either Obamacare or the USA. You cannot have both. When the US Federal Government budget is patiently and clearly explained to the people they will see that the Republic is in danger. The Democrats will deny reality but enough of the people will admit reality. This political argument can be won. The Republicans have to educate the people about the financial position and that there is no one outside the USA who can solve the financial problems of the USA. There is no lottery for the US Government to win. The Republic can only be saved by the sacrifices of the citizens. If the citizens want entitlements above anything else then the Republic will be destroyed. There are many foreigners who are waiting for the USA to weaken. The hyenas wait for the lion to fall sick, and then they attack. The USA is still a democracy and the will of the people will determine Obamacare, no matter what legal technicalities are done or not done.
shipley130| 4.27.11 @ 3:39PM
And it will be the US Supreme Court's fault when the health care rationing begins. I want to ensure that Sotomayor gets the same rationing as I will.
Texas Granny| 4.28.11 @ 5:37PM
shipley130, I agree. Going forward I want a bill passed that if they pass a bill, they will have to live by it just like the rest of us, they are certainly no better than the rest of us!
Danny| 5.1.11 @ 9:54PM
"by the time the Court deigns to hear one of the challenges, it may be impossible to safely extract the tumor. "
I'd say not. We can safely extract it. Whether we have the will to do so is another matter.
Creative Recreation | 8.10.11 @ 9:47PM
is good