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A Wonk in Sheep’s Clothing
For Mississippi governor Haley Barbour, the road to beating President Obama runs through public policy. Our April 2011 cover story. Read it now!
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His performance at the hearings earned him a begrudging respect in some unlikely places. “Point by point, with color charts for the senators and glossy handouts for reporters, Haley Barbour today rebutted Democratic assertions that the Republican Party accepted illegal foreign contributions when he was the party’s chairman,” the New York Times’s lead read. The article marveled at his “star quality,” and noted that “Mr. Barbour’s preparation for his performance — every word carefully considered, every inflection clearly rehearsed — would have made an accomplished musician proud.” Another New York Times article described how he worked the Democratic side of the committee “nimbly as a dealer cracks the cellophane from a fresh deck of cards…”
In the end, the Republican-led committee found that Barbour’s actions were “neither illegal nor improper,” while the Democratic minority dissented. By this time, the NPF’s nonprofit status had already been revoked by the Internal Revenue Service.
Though the organization is long since defunct, it did produce a 1996 book, authored by Barbour, called Agenda for America, laying out a detailed set of policy proposals for Republicans.
IN 1991, BARBOUR had formed a lobbying firm, BGR Group, which he could devote his full energies to after his term as chairman of the RNC expired in 1997. In 1999, Barbour sold the firm to Interpublic Group for $20 million, while remaining on, and in 2001 Fortune magazine named it the most powerful lobbying firm in Washington. The roster of big-name clients — including large oil, tobacco, and pharmaceutical companies, as well as foreign governments — proved very lucrative, but his lobbying career will also be the biggest obstacle he faces running for president, as his work will provide a treasure trove of opposition research material for his rivals.
While Barbour may have a sympathetic ear among Republican primary voters when it comes to attempts to portray him as a racist, they could be a lot less forgiving when it comes to lobbying. There was a time when Republican voters were inclined to defend large corporations, but ever since the 2008 Wall Street bailout, there’s been a growing recognition that big business is perfectly willing to set aside free market principles and cozy up to government when it sees it as in its interest to do so. Indeed, this recognition was one of the driving forces behind the emergence of the Tea Parties. In February of this year, presidential hopeful Tim Pawlenty opened his speech to a Tea Party Patriots summit in Phoenix by lumping “big bailed out business” together with “big unions” and “big government” as part of “a royal triangle of greed.” If there’s one criticism that Barbour is most vulnerable to when it comes to his conservative credentials, it’s that when business interests have clashed with limited government principles, he has often sided with business.
In 2009, he vetoed an eminent domain reform bill that would have made it harder for the state to take private property for private uses. Barbour argued that, if enacted, the legislation would have been “catastrophic” for the economy of his state, as it would discourage large corporations such as Toyota, Nissan and PACCAR from building there. In 2010, he pushed for subsidies for Kior, a biofuels company, to build three plants in Mississippi. And in February of this year, he defended farm subsidies in an interview with the Daily Caller. The Washington Examiner’s Tim Carney, who has written extensively about the intersection between big business and big government, wrote: “If the Tea Party still has some wind, it’s hard to see how Barbour gets anywhere near the GOP nomination.”
When I asked him to respond to charges that he’s a big business Republican, Barbour recalled a speech he gave to the Business Roundtable in the 1990s in which he “told them that the Republican Party was the party of small business, not big business, because big business doesn’t have a party.” He recalled a headline in the financial press after the speech: “GOP to Big Business: Drop Dead.”
“I am a small business Republican,” Barbour insisted. “I am free market capitalist and if it gets down to being one Republican politician in the United States who is a free market capitalist, it’d be me. Fortunately, there are lots of others like me. But I am very very aware that sometimes big business’s agenda and even more often their political support is not aligned with conservatism or small government, or lower taxes even much less, less spending. But those are the things that I’ve always supported.”
During the 2010 election cycle, Barbour was smart enough to recognize the importance of the Tea Parties, and, unlike other national Republican leaders, did not get in scuffles over their influence. He argued that party leaders should butt out of primaries and allow voters to decide, and played down any talk of an intraparty rift.
In a January 2009 interview with the Wall Street Journal’s Steve Moore, Barbour himself seemed to acknowledge the difficulty of running for president as a onetime lobbyist. “[T]he American people aren’t likely to ever elect a former Washington lobbyist as president,” he was quoted as saying.
When I asked him if anything had changed in the past two years, he told me, “If I said that, it was as a joke.” He continued, “When I ran for governor, everybody in Washington and New York said, ‘Oh, a lobbyist can’t get elected governor.’ Well, I was elected, and I defeated a sitting Democratic governor by seven points who spent millions of dollars attacking me for being a lobbyist of all the clients I represented.”
Barbour notes that while he represented some of the nation’s largest pharmaceutical companies as a lobbyist, as governor of Mississippi, he implemented a Medicaid reform that emphasized purchases of generic drugs to save the program money.
“Once I got elected governor of Mississippi, my only client was the people of Mississippi,” he said. “If I’m elected president, or if anybody else is elected president, the day afterward, they’re gonna be lobbying. They’re going to be lobbying Congress, they’re going to be lobbying business, they’re going to be lobbying labor, they’re going to lobbying our foreign allies and adversaries. Because that’s what presidents do, they advocate. And lobbying is just a form of advocacy.”
BARBOUR’S CONNECTIONS IN WASHINGTON came in especially handy during Katrina. When the storm slammed the Gulf Coast in August 2005, Barbour’s calm and steady leadership — and reluctance to criticize the federal response — stood in stark contrast to the performance of elected officials in the neighboring state of Louisiana. At the same time, he was able to use his muscle in Washington to secure $24 billion in federal funds for Mississippi.
Six days after Katrina, newspaper publisher Ricky Mathews convened a meeting with Barbour and key officials to discuss the response. “I’ve often described Gov. Barbour after that meeting as being a man on a mission,” Mathews said.
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Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 3.25.11 @ 6:37AM
The door is open from someone, anyone from the Republican Party to step right into the loose shoes.
The funniest comment in this article is that David Broder claimed Haley Barbour was a long shot. I'll tell you what's a real long shot. The real long shot is a liberal like David Broder making any more predictions of Republican long shots.
The reason is that the real long shot here is Obama.
Rising unemployment, high gas prices and the failure by Obama to provide any real leadership has already doomed him.
Any Republican, in fact, anyone who can elucidate a clear positive vision of what needs to be done, is practically a shoe in. That leaves most Republicans out.
mames| 3.25.11 @ 9:58AM
I am convinced that long term GOP wonk/weenies like Barbour, Romney, and many other retreads are not only a disaster for the Party but for the country as well. We need some bulls in the china shop. Why is it only women seem to have the equipment to get this done? The GOP men should start acting like men and stop leaving the heavy lifting to our wonderful women. BUT as the men have abdicated my vote goes to Michelle. IF GOP offers up another RINO like McCain, Romney etc we are in serious trouble and only blood on the floor of congress will be able to effect the return to the constitution that Jefferson saw as necessary, "from time to time."
Bob Grant| 3.25.11 @ 12:04PM
I'm not sure why you would associate wonk with weenies. Personally, I want a wonk who knows where the levers are.
What I don't want are blowhards who talk a big game but wouldn't know how to get things done if their life or country depended on it. There's more to leadership than giving rhetoric-filled speeches to the faithful.
How effective would these "bulls in china shops" be once they take office?
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 1:19PM
Obama proves BS wins election, but governing and leading are a different matter.
mames| 3.26.11 @ 1:42PM
Time to break some levers. What have these wonks ever done, huh, what? Am I taking more of my income home every week? Has our budget ever shrunk? To many weenie wonks. They analyse us to death and talk, talk, talk, talk....
Chalkdust| 3.26.11 @ 2:29PM
Here, Here on needing a wonk that acts like John Wayne to be POTUS. An ignoramus can be president (see current occupant) Pilgrim, but it's pretty hard to get anything meaningful done while on vacation or out to lunch.
HAWK | 3.25.11 @ 12:25PM
LOL! And Barbour's not a "Bull?"
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 11:25AM
"The door is open from someone, anyone from the Republican Party to step right into the loose shoes."
You probably don't get it how poignant your truism is. Or, since you are so dummy, you probably do. Eight years of wobbliness on the part of George Mush and the shoes are there for Forrest Gump to step into. Or Chauncey Gardner.
And remember: Gump did well for himself, a fishing boat. Gardner might have become governor of NY if the film had gone on longer-- in America you can go as high up as you want.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 3.25.11 @ 1:20PM
And Obama Gump has done well for himself, NCAA bracket picks. That's the difference between Forrest the capitalist, and Obama, the community disorganizer.
Oldefarte| 3.25.11 @ 2:26PM
Are you wearing your T-shirt? Anyone using the word 'dummy' while being critical of Bush is truly a moron [and possibly a reverse-racist to boot]. Yeah, Gump had a fishing boat, but he also dropped his britches for Johnson to prove his SHOT IN THE BUTTOX authenticity. Additionally Alabama's THE BEAR supposedly proclaimed even with Gump's footspeed, he still was STUPID [which proves accurate when attached to your preferred political candidate, who hopefully will duplicate Gump's jumping from /abondoning a cruising tug boat into the water in November of 2012]!!!!!!!!!
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 3:00PM
"who hopefully will duplicate Gump's jumping "
But you are so confident, with your GOP springing into action next year, that he can be defeated? why if the GOP is so competent, would you have any doubts the GOP will win? if they pick the wrong guy (or Gal) doesn't that mean the flaw is within the GOP-- not outside the GOP?
Oldefarte| 3.26.11 @ 12:28PM
I have the utmost confidence that the GOP will win, since our candidate will have have El Chosen One as the opposing Democrat/Jackars candidate to run against. As long as the election doesn't come down to a BOWLING MATCH or perhaps A BASEBALL THROWING CONTEST, a GOP victory is a sure bet [except perhaps for those say of the REVERSE-RACIST-MORON catagory]!!!!!
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 11:47PM
I seldom, if ever, post anything intelligent or original. My previous post confirms that, I'm only here for the attention.
Alan Brooks| 3.26.11 @ 12:01AM
Stealing an ID is much worse, it is a CRIME; did you know that? your IPO can be traced.
Oldefarte| 3.26.11 @ 12:29PM
Be careful everyone, THE REVERSE-RACIST-MORON POLICE are watching!!!!!!!!!!
Allah Brooks| 3.26.11 @ 1:02PM
Stealing an Ud ..is that like a law ot are you just ,well,ah, we all know...
As-Salāmu `Alaykum
Alan Brooks| 3.27.11 @ 11:54PM
As I said, I seldom, if ever post anything intelligent, and this is a reconfirmation of that. I bring nothing to the table as longtime AS readers can attest to. I have been keep tabs on all posters who have disagreed the my posts or called me out on my lack of intelligence. Their names have been forwarded to Eric Holder.
Justice| 3.28.11 @ 12:29AM
LOL~ now THAT is funny.
mames| 3.26.11 @ 1:47PM
Gump had gumption, integrity and honesty. He may have been stupid but he knew what honesty was! W, McCain, Romney ( and yes I do disrespect him because of his Mormonism, what right thinking man could believe in the whacked out Joseph Smith - read their bizarre escatology) , they all talk, talk, talk,.....and accomplish nothing.
Alan Brooks| 3.27.11 @ 2:42AM
"Gump had gumption, integrity and honesty."
So does Jimmuh Cawtah. You can possess integrity and honesty and still be incompetent. Carter is as smart as any president ever was. But he is a smarmy incompetent who enabled Brezhnev to invade Afghanistan- where we are now, 32 years later.
Dave | 3.26.11 @ 8:59AM
Just a side observation here and having nothing pro or con to say about Mr Barbour personally or politically, but in looking over the photo at the top of this column, it occurred to me that if he were wearing a pair of white gloves and a vintage top hat, ol' Haley kind of looks like a poster I once had of W.C Fields.
'Ya think?
Now that "I" think about it, W.C. might have been a pretty good candidate for the Republican nod in 2012. If nothing else, the entertainment value would be huge. Matter of fact, I can just hear him debating Obama now: "Ahhh, go away, boy. 'Ya bother meee" ...
And after all ... isn't that the point?
mames| 3.26.11 @ 1:49PM
Fat people have no discipline. What a ya bet he tries to loose a few before the election?
vladdy| 3.26.11 @ 2:50PM
I'm sure Churchill is laughing in heaven
mames| 3.26.11 @ 6:00PM
Churchill of all people lacked discipline. He was right for a few years of his life and spent the rest sucking cigars like pacifiers, drinking to excess and living off the backs of anyone who let him live at their house for a while. Yes very undisciplined.
JKennedy| 3.27.11 @ 4:45PM
When Barbour was on campus at The University of Mississippi for the 08' Presidential Debate. I remember him talking with a reporter about addressing obesity he said something along the lines of, "We should be addressing childhood nutrition. Its important for kids to learn good heath early...unlike folks' like me who its clearly too late for" (Thats pretty close to the quote)
Needless to say, He knows his image....I doubt he'll worry much about it.
voted against carter| 3.26.11 @ 5:14PM
This friggin IDIOT Barbour thinks "Global-What ever you call it this week" IS REAL.
GLOBAL-WARMING is a SCAM.
WE DO NOT need an other retard in office who buy's Al Gore's flim-flam Power Point presentation.
Oh, and this friggin Idjut IS ALSO a RINO.
So there is that.
Alan Brooks| 3.27.11 @ 2:34AM
CARTER ALERT
"AP: Jimmy Carter to meet with Castro and Cuban religious leaders"
I'm not worried about Castro, it's that other guy...
Alan Brooks| 3.27.11 @ 2:37AM
...doesn't the scripture say the Antichrist will be an "angel of light"? Maybe he is Carter.
The name Carter contains six letters.
Justice| 3.28.11 @ 12:27AM
It says that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 1 Cor. 11:14.
The Anti-Christ will imitate Christ by performing PRETENDED signs and wonders, leading astray those who refused to love the truth. (2 Thess. 2:19).
It says "refused to love the truth."
It matters, big time Alan.
Since Jesus says He IS the Truth, Jn. 14:6 it means unless we love Him we deserve Hell and will be lead astray by the Anti-Christ.
Not MY words~ God's words.
And if one doesn't agree with His words He says you can't love Him:
"Jesus answered him, "If a man loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him." Jn. 14:23.
It says keep HIS word, not the Pope's, not Buddha's, not Allah's and not any other man's that isn't according to the Bible.
jo anne white | 3.28.11 @ 9:56PM
The "antichrist is anyone who is against the Christ The 666 spoken of is just the number 18 which added comes to the number 9 which in numerology is the number for man. The number 1 is for high mental and spititual achievement , or is the number for God.
So, simply put, it will be a man who will be the biggest moron and trouble maker the world has ever seen or ever will see again.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 6:56AM
American Voters & Business Interests will vote their wallets in 2012.
Obama Is Beatable.
Time to do the vetting & sorting of potential Obama Beaters from GOP Ruling Elite Loser Candidates.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 8:28AM
Tea Party types like Sharron Angle or Christine O'Donnell? No thanks, I don't want a second Obama term.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 8:52AM
No Sport, Tea Party Winner Types like Tea Party Senators, Rand Paul from Kentucky, Pat Toomey from Pennsylvania, Mike Lee from Utah, Marco Rubio from Florida, Ron Johnson from Wisconsin.....
We Don't Want Another Serial Traitor to Conservatism like John McCain.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 9:22AM
Rand Paul wouldn't stand a chance on the national stage (too much of his dad in him). I'm afraid he'd have a hard time keeping the flake in him supressed. Johnson first must succeed as Governor in WI and that looks like a nail biter. As for Toomey and Rubio despite the Tea Party jumping on their bandwagons or them masterfully coopting the Tea Party they're establishment Republicans (like the other WINNERS in 2010).
The politicians that came to epitomize the Tea Party last election (aside from Paul and Scot Brown) were major disasters that handed sure Senate seats to the Democrats. They'd do it again with the White House.
I'm amazed at how the Tea Party folks run away from their most notable candidates -- Angle and O'Donnell. Without the Tea Party they'd have lost the nominations and Republicans would now have the seats in NV and DE (CO too).
Find a flake on the fringes of political reality and the Tea Party will pick'em to "prove" their "power."
Yeah, yeah the rebellion escalates where was the Tea Party when Johnson and Republicans needed them in WI?
The Tea Party is far too impressed with itself and shares some traits with Obama -- arrogance, self-aggrandizing, my way or the highway and magical thinking.
It's more like Carpe Nux with the Tea Party.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 10:03AM
"Carpe Nux" makes no sense. It would be Carpe Noctem pseudo-intellect bloviator.
You were runnin' your yap about Tea Party Senate Candidates, Not Dr.Rand Paul , as A Presidential Candidate. Sport. Don't try to move the goal posts.
From opposing provisions of The Patriot Act, to Co-Sponsoring Repeal of FCC Net Neutrality Regs, to introducing A "Read The Bills" Resolution, to Voting "No" on The Continuing Budget Resolution, to His Five Year Budget Plan Tea Party Senator Dr.Rand Paul has Hit The Deck Runnin' & Walked His Talk.
You Wanna War with The Tea Party, Bring It.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
more later......
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 12:24PM
Nux is Latin for nut. You should have looked it up. Carpe Noctem is seize the night. That's the weakness of populists you think you speak for everyone -- you don't. Especially conservatives.
The Tea Party got it "wrong" about Scott Brown so who knows about Rand Paul. He's a cypher not unlike Obama and we know where that's got us.
Has Rand Paul succeeded in any of his legislative "triumphs?" What we need are people who can actually get things done and reverse the Obama/Democrat agenda (made harder by Tea Party failures in the last Senatorial elections).
Rand Paul as a Presidential candidate with his foot and mouth disease, hiding from the press and refusing to answer questions about his take on Civil Rights and other important national issues will lose. Claiming to be for limited government, but appearing to oppose civil rights (which enforced the Constitution on a racist Democrat controlled South) is anything, but supportive of the Constitution or Bill of Rights.
Nor will Obama be stupid enough to attack his faith in the waning days of the campaign assuring him a platform to win the sympathy vote. Obama is a failure as President, but as a campaigner he is not to be taken lightly (the fact that he is still personally popular despite his arrogant and condescending demeanor speaks volumes about his ongoing and successful campaign to be loved).
The Tea Party where it was successful focused on Congress (despised and blamed by the public for Obama's horrendous policies), but that won't work with Obama. Treat Obama like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (who is still in the Senate thanks to the Tea Party) and Obama will win as the "victim" of the nasty Republicans (a myth helped along by some Tea Party types).
The Republicans have candidates with solid and sound records to run against Obama. Barbour for all his perceived weaknesses is one, Tim Pawlenty is another. Mitch Daniels despite his foolish call for a "truce" on social issuse is a successful Governor. Chris Christie and Paul Ryan while not "running" would be solid candidates who have accomplished things and prove they can win Democrat votes. Herman Cain and Mitt Romney are successful businessmen and the latter has a proven record of saving failed projects. Sarah Palin though thin skinned and unpopular has at least half a Governor's record that showed some real potential. Newt Gingrich despite the baggae has a brilliant mind unlike the cerebrally challenged Obama. Michelle Bachmann despite needing a lesson in history would be a fiesty candidate. Marco Rubio though new to the Senate is a solid establishment Repubilcan with a state record of achievements. Even Mike "Huckster" Huckabee despite being a tax and spend Governor with the ethics of Bill Clinton has a modicum of substance behind him.
While I have consistently prefered candidates with proven records in the primaries (like President Reagan, President Bush 43 and Jack Kemp) the field is wide open and if a cypher like Rand Paul, whose views are murky on many issues, wants to run he should. That might keep his father out of the race and that would be good for the GOP. What we don't need is a defender of pork spending, Muslim terrorists/despots and the liberalterian affinity for lax drug laws and the homosexual agenda making voters think we're just a whiter version of Obama.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 1:17PM
Yeah Professor, I know what Carpe Noctem means . People tend to write Carpe Nox,which isn't correct.
You Seize Your Nuts GOP RINO-CINO Fop.
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan
Our Tea Party Senator Dr.Rand Paul opposed provisions of The Patriot Act, Co-Sponsored the Repeal of FCC Net Neutrality Regs, introduced A "Read The Bills" Resolution, Voted "No" on The Continuing Budget Resolution, and Presented His Five Year Budget Plan.
What has Haley Barbour Done in 2011 to Walk His Talk ?
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Noctem.
Occam's Tool| 3.25.11 @ 1:27PM
Michael, it's hard to argue with Clint. Perhaps it is the fact that he is a halfbreed of man and leprous armadillo that makes him so difficult, or perhaps it was the syphilis passed from his father to his mother and thence to him in the womb, coupled with his parents locking him in the bottom of a Donkey Kong machine for years that makes him so heinous. Hard to untangle this web.
But that he is a Terrorist Catamite, there is no question.
Best to confine your argumentation to more intelligent and refined hominids, such as brain damaged Lemurs.
Occam's Tool| 3.25.11 @ 1:30PM
By the way, Michael, thanks for your intelligent and well reasoned posts.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 2:27PM
Uh Oh !
There He Is.
Ad nauseam, Israel Firster Fanatic Troll Tool Job is All Cranky & Upset because many of We Tea Party Patriots don't crawl to His Personal Israel Firster Agenda.
Box Of Tissues Crybaby ?
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 3:04PM
Clint is inbred; his father married his sister in 1995. Or maybe his father married Clint's sister- you have seen the ending of the film Chinatown?
John Huston, wasn't it?
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 3:45PM
You, Chickenhawk Coward ObamaEunuch Brooks & Your Little Chickenshit Chickenhawk Coward Israel Firster Troll Girlfriend Tool Job got a bad habit of runnin' your mouths to write checks your Puddin' Bodies can't cash.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 4:17PM
"You, Chickenhawk Coward ObamaEunuch Brooks & Your Little Chickenshit Chickenhawk Coward Israel Firster Troll Girlfriend Tool Job got a bad habit of runnin' your mouths to write checks your Puddin' Bodies can't cash."
I don't dislike you- you are funny. You are actually a pretty good colloquial writer, the above is as good as Jean Shepherd, Twain, Thurber; all of 'em.
And carpe doom to you.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 5:14PM
That's nice.
I'm sorry that the squirrels in the park ate your nuts, Brooks.
Allah Brooks| 3.26.11 @ 1:04PM
As-Salāmu `Alaykum
Occam's Tool| 3.25.11 @ 6:03PM
Is this supposed to be a threat? Please clarify, as it is too illiterate to fully understand. I was betting that you would mention the check cashing bit.
You understand, I don't usually agree with Alan, and he is far too charitable towards you. But I do enjoy the physical threats coming from a half breed Leprous Texas roadkill. I'm sorry your dad had zoophilia, Clint.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 6:07AM
What's It Matter Tool Job ?
Ya Ain't Gonna Do Anything About It Anyhow, Chickenhawk Cowardly Twerp.
You Can Ask Your Wife about all the rest Ya Sorry-Assed Self Help Excuse For A Psychiatrist.
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 11:51PM
Being unable to debate the facts I always turn to the tried and true method of personal attacks on my opponent. I have to be going, I must get the the bathroom before my master barack flushes, I haven't eaten all day.
Oldefarte| 3.26.11 @ 12:31PM
OMG, a comment from the REVERSE-RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Occam's Tool| 3.25.11 @ 1:36PM
Dear Michael: the problem with Ron is that, while his opinions on finances are often sound, his opinions on drugs are spurious (not his specialty), and his opinions on foreign policy (as the Godfather of Terrorist Catamites) are worthless since the Soviets fell in 1989, which is why Clint has no more recent quotes than those of over a quarter century ago.
Again, those years of Clint's sensory deprivation in a Donkey Kong Machine during his formative years resulted in his political madness, which, as Riff-Raff once so elegantly sang, "takes its toll."
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 2:18PM
Fixated Israel Firster Troll Tool Job is all angst ridden & PMS'y because many of We Tea Party Patriots & Our Tea Party Senator Dr.Rand Paul & Our Tea Party Co-Favorite Dr.Ron Paul don't Asskiss Tool Job's Personal Israel Firster Agenda.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 2:34PM
Screwball Fanatic Israel Firster Tool Job got a problem because Ronald Reagan appreciated Dr.Ron Paul.
Dr.Rand Paul was one of only four Republicans who endorsed Ronald Reagan in 1976 against fellow republican Ford & Ronald Reagan endorsed Dr.Ron Paul.
We Tea Party Patriots appreciate Our New House Financial Services Monetary Sub-Committee Chairman Dr.Ron Paul.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.26.11 @ 2:13PM
Clint(on):
"Dr.Rand Paul was one of only four Republicans who endorsed Ronald Reagan in 1976"
Typo Alert!
Or are you factually challenged?
Or just in the first stages of Dementia?
RAND Paul would have been 13 years old in 1976.
In what capacity was that endorsement?
Was he a delegate or a contributor?
Get your scorecard here!
Can't tell the Pauls without a scorecard!
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 10:22PM
Fac ut vivas.Quando podeces te regi eorum fecerunt?
Ronald Reagan:
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.26.11 @ 11:29PM
Clint:
'Ronald Reagan:
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
When did Reagan say this?
No one seems to know, but it is cited without a time frame or occasion.
Either put up or shut-up.
Can't believe it is easy for you to see the keyboard with your head so far up Paul's butt.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 9:26AM
Gee Anti-Catholic Israel Firster Asslicker,Can't believe it is easy for you to see the keyboard with your head so far up Bibi Netanyahu's Ass.
You Israel Firsters always want America Firsters To Do Your Work for Ya Here & in The Middle East.
Look it Up. There's Video of it.
Hint:The collection included a vintage early '80s videotaped commercial ("The Ron Paul Story") that featured a glowing endorsement from Reagan. As Mark Elam explained, Paul had been locked in a tough primary battle and his isolationist foreign policy had come under attack from Republican rivals trying to paint him as weak. Paul had been an early Reagan supporter and led the Texas delegation for Reagan at the 1976 Republican convention. So when he needed some help, Reagan was happy to reciprocate. As I describe in the piece, videotapes of the subsequent ad were sent to every Republican in Paul's district and featured this endorsement from The Gipper:
Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.
Paul won the primary and returned to Congress. And, happily for political junkies, "The Ron Paul Story" has been preserved for future generations"
You're Up Anti-Catholic Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie
mames| 3.25.11 @ 10:03AM
So you apparently are not a believer in a Constitutionally Limited Republic. It appears you prefer a County club GOP. Among those elected to the house and senate on the strength of the The Party are a larger number of possible REAL leaders than anything the GOP has given us in 50 years. I believe in playing the odds in life, I do not look for perfection but greater odds.
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 11:28AM
Carpe Doom at the ballot box.
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 12:39PM
... for you that is; didn't vote for him in '08, but I'm voting for a winner next year: Barack Obama.
Nothing suceeds like success. Some of you revealed your jealousy of him when you dissed his lifestyle; you want the president of the United States to live like Jow Blow in a trailer park?? you want Obama and his family to eat hot dogs and Beefaroni off paper plates?
But I thank God Philip Klein is more honest than most of you. And now you have to be, too.
The jig is up.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 12:55PM
Poor Obama born with his head up his ass. Like all good Democrats.
Alan your Democrat arrogance and bigotry is showing.
Oldefarte| 3.25.11 @ 2:36PM
You RACIST YOU! Shame! Success? OMG, what are you smoking? Maybe success at bouncing a basketball, but not at governmental administration, at public speaking without a teleprompter, about TELLING THE TRUTH. Hades no! Jealousy? Are you insane? Jealousy of his associations with Wright, Aires, etc? What BS! When the truth is impossible, just make up excrement, right? He won't even become an asterik to Carter's ineptness when history is written!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 11:53PM
Voting is easy for me, I vote for who I am told to vote for.
Oldefarte| 3.26.11 @ 12:33PM
Then you must be no doubt a REVERSE-RACIST, LABOR UNION/DEMOCRAT LACKEY, huh????
Allah Brooks| 3.26.11 @ 1:05PM
As-Salāmu `Alaykum
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 1:22PM
Speakin' of Carpe Nux, ObamaEunuch Brooks is in the building.
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 4:22PM
It is true I'm no better than you, Clint. We two are at the bottom of the AS totem pole. I blog here because rightists blog 24/7 at commie poofter vegetarian sites.
Tit for tat.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 5:22PM
I don't wanna hear about your Man Boobs,Brooks.
Like I said, I'm sorry that the squirrels in the park ate your nuts.
Occam's Tool| 3.25.11 @ 6:05PM
It must be tough to have neurosyphilis AND leprosy, Clint. I do hope you reveal that before relations with terrorists.
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 7:51PM
Why does Clint diss Israel at AS? similar to if Ben Stein were to diss Germany at the Stormfront site.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:59AM
As has been said of ObamaEunuch Brooks “Insulsissimus Est Homo”
Oldefarte| 3.26.11 @ 12:37PM
Or possibly if I were to 'diss' the CSA/Jeffersaon Davis, under whom my ancestors served, huh??????
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:57AM
Gee Tool Job Why Don't Ya Ask Your Wife?
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.26.11 @ 2:18PM
Alan Brooks Brother:
"It is true I'm no better than you, Clint. We two are at the bottom of the AS totem pole."
Actually, Clint is lower than the gum on the bottom of the totem pole.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 10:26PM
Caput tuum in ano est
That Trumps You Israel Firster,Seein' How Your Poop at The Bottom of A Well
Frisbee| 3.25.11 @ 9:08PM
MT wrote: "Without the Tea Party they'd have lost the nominations and Republicans would now have the seats in NV and DE (CO too)."
Thank God the Tea Party ran in NV andDE. At least we had some real Americans on the ballot. What is the point of running RINOs against DEMs? In Alaska, the Tea Party guy lost against a total RINO, Murkowski.
More power to the Tea Party!
Carpe Res Publica!
Alan Brooks| 3.26.11 @ 12:06AM
"People tend to write Carpe Nox,which isn't correct.
You Seize Your Nuts GOP RINO-CINO Fop."
This is gut busting comedy- you should have your own TV show.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 9:31AM
Uh Oh !
ObamaEunuch Brooks is craving some more negative attention.
Oldefarte| 3.26.11 @ 12:39PM
TV show, you mean like Oprah Winfrey or Bill Maher [which are really entertaining to you folks, no doubt]!!!!!!!!
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.26.11 @ 2:27PM
Alan Brooks:
( To Clint) "you should have your own TV show."
Capital idea!
Then we could turn him off and he'd be playing to empty seats.
If Clint were a movie, he'd go straight to the cut-out bin.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 10:31PM
De gustibus non est disputandum
If Israel Firster here were a Movie. You'd be "Meet The Fockers".
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:03AM
Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell are self-serving narcissists who are the real RINOs. Had the Tea Party actually vetted the candidates they'd have discovered were loons.
I think Miller and Buck were OK candidates, but they should have been more upfront about past political or personal problems.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:03AM
Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell are self-serving narcissists who are the real RINOs. Had the Tea Party actually vetted the candidates they'd have discovered were loons.
I think Miller and Buck were OK candidates, but they should have been more upfront about past political or personal problems.
Chalkdust| 3.26.11 @ 2:36PM
Marco Rubio?? Be careful what you wish for. I don't think he backs a closed border.
vladdy| 3.26.11 @ 2:52PM
Links to objective evidence of problems with either of these two? I know the left has set out a meme about conservative women, but that doesn't mean we must accept it.
Robbins Mitchell| 3.25.11 @ 7:15AM
Well,this is nothing new...I was in Young Republicans at Ole Miss with Haley back in the day...he was a 'policy wonk' even then..in spite of being a member of the partyingest fraternity on campus...Sigma Alpha Epsilon...some of us YR's found him to be a bit pedantic,but nobody could ever say he was uninformed on any relevant issues....he usually knew more then the rest of us put together
Mutt the Hoople| 3.27.11 @ 9:56AM
Not too hard to be smarter than an Ole Miss frat boy.
Dee See| 3.25.11 @ 7:24AM
False paradigm, controlled opposition capstone
dynamics decree ---OBAMA will be re-elected.
MEANWHILE, the debt slave economy, the RED China sellout, and the ongoing, POST American
mutiny from above -----go unmentioned, undiscussed, unreckoned with ------unprosecuted.
--------------KEEP A GOIN' FOLKS!
------Fox News and Oprah are watchin' out
for ya'!
-------------JUST KEEP A GOIN'
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 12:56PM
Jimmy Carter was going to be Reagan too.
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 5:14PM
and people here say I do the nonsequitors?
Frisbee| 3.25.11 @ 9:11PM
Not all of them Alan. (Actually, is that a non sequitor or a Non Post Hoc ergo Non Propter Hoc?)
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 9:29PM
"Man Boobs Brooks... Coward Israel Firster Troll Girlfriend Tool Job got a bad habit of runnin' your mouths to write checks your Puddin' Bodies can't cash."
I've been called many things, every day from Monday to Sunday, but never this-- and it is funny, it's as good as a dialect from Huck Finn.
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 9:35PM
"Alan. (Actually, is that a non sequitor or a Non Post Hoc ergo Non Propter Hoc)"
Dunno, I was never more than a C+ student. I don't pretend to be a wizard, Frisbee, but even I can see that Clint's backhand putdowns of Israel belong at a more rightwing site than American Spectator: more like a Pat Buchanan-oriented blog, or, yes, even Stormfront or David Duke's own blog-- none of those sort of sites would mind posts concerning "Israeli Firsters"
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:50AM
Uh Oh !
ObammaEunuch Brooks Attempts to Play The Nazi Card on Tea Party Clint
Oldefarte| 3.26.11 @ 12:41PM
There you go again, you REVERSE-RACIST thing you.......oh and SHAZAM!!!!!!!
wodiej| 3.25.11 @ 8:02AM
Gov. Palin has been said to remember details and facts quickly as well. That's not enough to be a leader. I didn't see Barbour at Tea Parties or running from state to state supporting candidates to help the ungrateful GOP win back the House in Congress. No, that was Gov. Palin.
For some reason the establishment GOP is determined to keep nominating old white guys when conservatives have said no.
I would never support someone for President who doesn't have the willpower to control their eating habits anyway.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 12:39PM
Actually he raised the money and did the groundwork that won back Governor's offices. Far more important than last minute grandstanding endoresments of winning primary candidates or abysmal candidates who helped Democrats retain the Senate.
If getting the nomination is about endorsing candidates and working to help them win then Mitt Romney did as much or more than Sarah Palin -- he raised money for them too.
He also completed his term of office and didn't quit in mid-stream, because it was more profitable or saved him from scrutiny. As for Romneycare if the people of MA want it more power to them -- it is state's right issue. They can vote to raise their state taxes too. It is their business.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 1:47PM
Our Tea Party Kingmaker & Senate Point Man Senator Jim DeMint did more to endorse & fund Our Tea Party Candidates than Romney did & now, JimDeMint has outraised Romney.
"Sen. DeMint’s PAC Ranked #1, Raising More Money than the PACs of Romney, Palin, and Huckabee!
February 3, 2011 by Angela Toft Leave a Comment
It takes a lot of money to run for President and Sen. Jim DeMint has proven that he’s up to the challenge!
From today’s OpenSecrets.org: “Two Republicans vied for title of top cash generator, each pulling in more than $9 million in 2009 and 2010 to their respective leadership PACs: Senate Tea Party Caucus co-founder Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and Mitt Romney, the former Republican governor of Massachusetts and 2008 presidential hopeful.
“At the end of 2010, DeMint held a slight financial advantage over Romney — and both towered over the rest.”
http://draftjimdemint.com/
Many of,We Tea Party Patriots are urging Our Tea Party Kingmaker Jim DeMint to Run & Beat Obama in The 2012 Presidential Election.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Butch | 3.25.11 @ 3:24PM
How can I join in the urging, Clint? I also think DeMint could beat Obama.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 7:43PM
Hi Butch.
Go To This Link:
http://draftjimdemint.com/
Thanks Butch.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:07AM
DeMint would be a solid candidate if he decided to throw his hat in the ring. Unlike the usual Tea Party suspects he has a proven track record and a list of serious accomplishments that would make him a formidable candidate.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.26.11 @ 11:45PM
Clint:
"Go To This Link:
http://xxxxxxxxxxx.com/"
This is a fake website with fake news about Jim DeMint's non-existent run for the presidency in 2012.
There is not ONE quote by DeMint to show that he is running for anything, but Senator from South Carolina.
This website is registered to a company in Scottsdale AZ.
Why are you flogging this dead horse Clint?
What do you have to gain by pushing someone who has said repeatedly that he is not interested.
Why don't you go back to shilling for Ron Paul instead.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 5:09PM
This is why Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
If You were a Real Tea Party Member,You would know. Liar.
The 2012 Tea Party Presidential Poll:
With 2 Million Votes & Counting:
1. Rep. Paul Ryan 79 %
2. Gov. Chris Christie 77 %
3. Sen. Jim DeMint 73 %
4. Rep. Michelle Bachmann 70 %
5. Rep. Allen West 69 %
6. Gov. Tim Pawlenty 66 %
7. Gov. Bobby Jindal 65 %
8. Gov. Sarah Palin 64 %
9. Gov. Rick Perry 64 %
10. Newt Gingrich 60 %
11. Gov. Bob McDonnell 59 %
12. Herman Cain 58 %
13. Gov. Mitch Daniels 56 %
14. Sen. Rick Santorum 55 %
15. Gov. Mike Huckabee 54 %
16. Amb. John Bolton 53 %
17. Gov. Haley Barbour 51 %
18. Gen. David Petraeus 48 %
19. Rep. Ron Paul 47 %
20. Gov. Gary Johnson 47 %
21. Gov. Jeb Bush 46 %
22. Gov. Mitt Romney 44 %
We Real Tea Party Patriots are urging Our Tea Party Kingmaker Jim DeMint to Run & Beat Obama, despite his reluctance to run & recent statement. He's wavered back & forth about going in against Romney & Our Second Tea Party Senate Tsunami Wave in The 2012 GOP Primaries.
Watch & Learn RINO-CINO Troll
Jim DeMint's PAC has outcollected all GOP Candidates, including Romney.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 11:24PM
Clint:
"If You were a Real Tea Party Member,You would know. Liar."
If You were Real. You would know, you're not. you're a Liar.
Out of the top ten, how many are actually running?
Ryan, Christie and DeMint are not.
Your boy Ronnie is at the bottom.
He has the same chance that Obama has giving a speech without a teleprompter:
Zip, Zero, Nada!
WM| 3.25.11 @ 3:54PM
You are a RINO with the usual moral relativism that motivates RINOs. What Romney did was not okay. There is no excuse for it. End of story. If you think otherwise, then the Republican Party and conservatism are not for you.
And despite your superficial and unverifiable claim to have applauded the Tea Party, you are seething with obvious resentment of the Tea Party because it actually means what it says about free markets and Constitutionally limited government, and it calls out and rejects members of Republican political/social circles as the dirtbags they are for betraying those principles. No doubt, that is horror to your refined sensibilities. The occasional O'Donnell incident is merely a pretext for you to express those resentments publicly.
Tea Party forever!
Frisbee| 3.25.11 @ 9:14PM
WM: If you're talking about M Tomlinson, then I am inclined to agree with you. He comes down as a know-it-all Denethor conservative-lite asking conservative Americans to give up hope.
Micahel Tomlinson, what's up? Are you a true conservative in despair, or a lib trying to sow despair? If the former, cheer up. If the latter, grab a brain.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:14AM
Unlike Tea Party populists I'm a real conservative who believes in supply economics, low taxes, a strong dollar, the pro-life agenda, traditional American values, religious liberty, a robust foreign policy, strong military and preserving the Constitution not using it as a door mat (Democrats) or cover (some Tea Party types) to push agendas that are as activist as the liberals.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:31AM
Yeah Sure RINO-CINO Badmouther of Our Tea Party.
"Senator Rand Paul has taken the media by storm, gracefully and wisely responding to liberal attacks and uninformed objections against his constitutionalist ideology. Upon the release of his book, The Tea Party Goes to Washington, Paul's media opportunities have increased immensely, opening up more opportunities to advocate for the all-too-neglected principles of true fiscal conservatism and constitutionalism."
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 12:19AM
Clint:
""Senator Rand Paul has taken the media by storm, gracefully and wisely responding to liberal attacks and uninformed objections against his constitutionalist ideology. Upon the release of his book, The Tea Party Goes to Washington, Paul's media opportunities have increased immensely, opening up more opportunities to advocate for the all-too-neglected principles of true fiscal conservatism and constitutionalism."
Any reason you won't admit that this quote comes from the John Birch Society?
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 9:50AM
Same Reason I didn't need to mention that the author Daniel Sayani has written :Senator Rand Paul Defends Israel, in the same publication.
Now, tell all the practicing Jews & practicing Muslims where You say they go when they die, Apocalyptic Crank Bigot Victor-Margie from Joisey.
Hmmmm Bigot.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 10:09AM
Why don't you tell us what God says, eh?
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 11:20AM
Why don't You Apocalyptic Crank Lady Religious Bigot Tell Us what You Say,God says about Practicing Jews & Practicing Muslims.?
Hmmmmm Religious Bigot & Bible Interpreting "Truth Teller" Coward Hypocrite ?
You're a Devious Bigot,Who Just "Uses" Jews & Muslims to attempt to carry out Your Apocalyptic Agenda.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 2:54PM
Still won't you tell us what God says, eh?
Maybe you don't know what God says, eh?
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 5:17PM
Better Yet Religious Bigot & Self-Appointed "Truth Teller" Apocalyptic Victor-Margie why don't you tell us what God says, eh?
I say practicing Jews & Muslims go to heaven
Hateful Religious Bigot Apocalyptic Israel Firster Victor-Margie.
You Deviously "Use" Jews & Muslims for Your Apocalyptic Agenda.
Put Up or Shut Up. Bigot.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:01PM
You're a Bigot against God.
You falsely call me a liar yet you do nothing but lie.
You falsely call me a slanderer yet you do nothing but slander me (and anyone else).
You falsely accuse me of having an agenda, yet you are all about an anti-Israel agenda.
You care nothing for the Truth, and especially God's Truth.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:06PM
God's Truth is marching on.
It always will.
Those who love Him will go to be with Him.
Those who hate His words hate Him.
Those who hate His children hate Him.
Liars go to Hell.
You are delusional~ hurling insults is all that you have. You are of your father the Devil who is a liar from the beginning because there is no truth in him.
"The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thess. 2:9-12.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:59AM
Clearly you don't understand federalism and oppose state's rights. Like liberals you Tea Party extremists want to force your views down the throats of all Americans. Not any different from the liberal fascists.
You should actually read the Constitution, The Federalist Papers and the VA and KY Resolutions then you might grasp why what MA decides to do in MA is their right as citizens in a soveriegn state. One size does not fit all.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:41AM
Oh Really, Pseudo Intellectual Bloviatin' BadMouther Of Our Tea Party & Lecturing School Marm Tomlinson.
"The liberal media eschew and even mock concepts such as the unconstitutionality of Social Security, as well as the notion that there are conservatives opposed to an interventionist foreign policy, and the idea that many of the reforms of the civil rights era are unconstitutional incursions into the realm of property rights and states’ rights. Because of this liberal media bias, individuals such as Senator Paul have at times been forced by circumstances to use their media appearances as an opportunity to educate journalists and the public on the principles of constitutionalism and libertarianism"
Deborah D | 3.28.11 @ 8:49AM
"you Tea Party extremists..." Please, Michael, stop alienating all Tea Partiers. We're like everybody else. I don't agree with everything Clint writes and I don't agree with everything you write. Neither makes me an extremist and Clint does not represent all Tea Partiers.
Fact is -- the GOP wouldn't have won anything back without the robust Tea Party. It is a young and fledgling group of "the silent majority." They are a combination of conservatives, libertarians and a mishmash of lots of other folks who came out immediately after the passing of TARP and around the time of the passing of the non-Stimulus bill. Please get out of the weeds both of you.
It's obvious that all of us on the GOP side are concerned about the direction of the country. We should make sure that job one is to defeat Obama. That's the main thing. Quit yelling at each other.
vladdy| 3.26.11 @ 2:55PM
Well, that takes care of Churchill, Eisenhower, and FDR, just to cover the spectrum of the 20th century.
Intelligent Design| 3.25.11 @ 8:18AM
Obama and his fellow Demo Socialists, including 90% of academia, assume that any Republican governor of Mississippi must be a good ole boy dolt. They prefer their politicians to be just like Charles Rangel, Barney Frank, or Ted Kennedy .... all role models for American youth.
Barbour's IQ is probably much higher than Obama's, but there is zero chance that Barbour would be elected president. Voters want someone who looks good on TV.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 12:41PM
Don't count out the anti-Obama appeal of Barbour, Daniels or even Gingrich. America may actually want an intelligent President and not just a media construct that claims to be intelligent, but is obviously little more than jumped gopher for ACORN.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 8:58AM
Haley would wipe the floor w/ the arrogant Know Nothing in Chief, Mr. Present -- America's first vaginal President during the debates. Never underestimate a Good Ole Boys abilities.
While I think Intelligent Degisn has a point about many of the easily led MSM zombies (right, center and left) I'm not sure the anti-Obama won't just catch on in a nation weary with high gas prices, high unemployment, high deficits, high spending, high arrogance, and high incompetence.
I've got the perfect ticket for 2012 Barbour/Cain!
Theresa| 3.25.11 @ 12:42PM
Barbour/Cain 2012~ excellent!
Prester John| 3.25.11 @ 1:24PM
Or Cain/Barbour--talk about watching the MSM and Dems' heads explode.......
Oldefarte| 3.25.11 @ 2:44PM
'Wipe the floor' might not begin to accurately describe the mess Barbour would create in a debate with El Chosen One. I'd give my right youknowwhat to watch that one, if and when it would occur!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alan Brooks| 3.25.11 @ 5:17PM
"describe the mess Barbour would create in a debate"
Barbour would be the mess on the floor.
Frisbee| 3.25.11 @ 9:18PM
He seems to be able to hold his own pretty well, or did you not read the article? But anyway, I don't like his "sell out to big business and then talk about how I'm so small business" schtick. He sold out his own state on eminent domain for Toyota... and he admits it!
Oldefarte| 3.26.11 @ 12:44PM
Better that than being the EXCREMENT that he would have to debate with. To win, Barbour would only have to HIDE HIS OPPONENT'S TELEPROMPTER to get responses of uh, uh, uh!!!!!!!!!
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:57PM
He should tell Obama he wants a level playing field~ no teleprompter during debates. The poor girly-man Obama would go crying to his wifey.
I have to say~ seeing a debate between the two of them would make my ever-loving YEAR!!!!
Bye bye, Oldefarte~ nice knowin' ya.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:16AM
I like that ticket too. Any Republican would be better than Obama. The key is to pick one who can win.
Jack| 3.25.11 @ 2:43PM
Wow, that is a thought! I could get behind that.
Deborah D | 3.28.11 @ 8:53AM
Wow! Perfect!
Mark James| 3.25.11 @ 9:35AM
John Hunstman Jr. Brilliant, articulate, with a history of leadership and ability. The Dems would only have his color and religion to run against.
Harry the Horrible| 3.25.11 @ 9:39AM
I hate to be negative, but he can't win.
He's not "pretty" enough.
Its sad, but true: Between TV and the women's vote, an ugly old man has little or no chance of winning, no matter how wise and/or competent he is.
Yes. Americans voters are that shallow, especially in the mushy middle.
Brian Mc| 3.25.11 @ 9:50AM
If you want to gain insight into the results for 2012, watch the last half hour of "Media Malpractice". Until idiots with a vote are taught that empowerment and entitlements are NOT the same thing, and the media stops wetting itself and slapping itself on the back for electing our first black president, Pawlenty will never get a fair shake and his chances are akin to those of the Rebels during the Civil War.
David T| 3.25.11 @ 10:57AM
Had Lee not sent Pickett straight into the heart of the Union defense, the Rebels might have pulled off a big upset. The lesson: Don't do anything stupid. The GOP would be stupid to think that Haley Barbour is somehow "unelectable."
Harry the Horrible| 3.25.11 @ 11:03AM
Well, I'd have no hesitation about voting for him for President, but I still think he fails the "TV Test."
Brian Mc| 3.25.11 @ 11:11AM
And then, factor in the media relentlessly and viciously attacking him while the alien receives a 'free ride' and the exit polls as in the video aforementioned will be the same, only the characters will have changed in four years. What occurred to Palin was a travesty of the first amendment. The media openly rooted for the one and gleefully smeared and besmirched the other. Hence, "I can see Russia from my house."
David T| 3.25.11 @ 11:59AM
Maybe the country's ready for a fat old man to be president...and I'm not talking about Newt Gingrich.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 12:44PM
What about a guy with a bad comb over? You've got to appreciate Trump attacking Obama on his birth certificate. If Trump keeps it up he may just need to show it and his college records that may be his undoing.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 1:50PM
Opportunist Scammer Trump gave $50,000 to Rahm Emanuel's Chicago Mayoral Campaign.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:19AM
Didn't know that, but not surprised. That's a weakness of big business -- playing the political field.
I don't think he's got a chance, but he's able to get away with asking the embarassing questions of Obama without paying a political price. I hope he keeps needling Obama.
Andrew P| 3.26.11 @ 2:33AM
Trump has the resources to run as an independent, just like Ross Perot. He is a very dangerous man.
Andrew P| 3.26.11 @ 2:36AM
Trump is just angling to get the nomination with his birther statements. It won't work. He will run as an independent, and in a general election, he will be competing for the same anti-Obama voters as the Republican nominee is - which means he will be bashing the Republican nominee night and day.
Rick V.| 3.25.11 @ 10:44AM
I dunno ... the Guv sounds like the perfect anti-Obama to me. The perfect candidate? Perhaps not. Preferrable to the current resident-in-chief? Absolutely. Electable? As a son of the South myself, I'd say yes.
Brian Mc| 3.25.11 @ 11:17AM
I wonder. Until the leftist stranglehold is removed from the indoctrination labs (public schools) and the media, we are fighting a battle whose resulting demise of the Republic can only be slowed, at best. We will never halt, nor reverse the juggernaut unless these two occurrences metamorphis.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 12:45PM
Don't undercut the power of parents raising their children right and having to pay the first real tax bill of making Republicans out of young Americans.
Brian Mc| 3.25.11 @ 3:07PM
I would never 'undercut' said power since I did it for three daughters, Michael. I might underestimate the results you hint at. Socialism started with passage of the sixteenth. After that, "Yours is Mine" couldn't be that far behind and we are reaping the whirlwind.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:23AM
Brian good on you for being a great Dad! I'm sure your daughters will do the same for their children and that's why I still have hope our country, but fully understand and share your concern.
Rick V.| 3.25.11 @ 11:12AM
And, as for lobbying, that's all Obama's done since he moved into the big white house. That, and golf.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 11:55AM
Mr. Tomlinson,
Believe mr, the above poster, Clint does NOT represent the TEA party. Most of us actually love our fellow men (and women), love the U.S.A. and have reasonable minds.
The lunatic Paul fringe is what he represents, and it is still going nowhere.
Thank God.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.25.11 @ 12:53PM
Justice, while I'm not a Tea Party supporter, I greatly appreciate it, because it was a wake up call to America. Any movement that tackles the issues and confronts the usurptation of power carried out by Obama and the Democrats is to be applauded. I just shudder at how they back candidates willy nilly without considering their records or listening to the Republicans in the states who know them or even worked for them. If the Tea Party must endorse candidate a little research would go a long way in avoiding unnecessary disasters (NV and DE being the most obvious).
While I'm not a Paul supporter I'm willing to give him a chance in the Senate. If he isn't his father and really is what he claims to be who knows in 8 yrs. I might support him to replace the next Republican President. I just want some substance and not merely rhetoric.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 1:02PM
Rand Paul has so far voted along with Dennis Kusinich~ check out his voting records. He's cut from the same cloth as his Daddy. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
The Clints of the country with their anti-Israel agendas wouldn't be backing him otherwise.
Theirs is a dangerous faction of the TEA party. They think they speak for most of us, but they don't.
The voting record~ always go by the voting record.
Keep up the good work, Michael~God bless you.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 2:09PM
You're A Slandering Liar.
Check the differences of Tea Party Senator Rand Paul's Record Against Democrat Congressman Kucinich.
You RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agendists are all atwitter because many of We Tea Party Patriots & Our Tea Party Senator Dr. Rand Paul & Tea Party Co-Favorite Dr.Ron Paul don't Asskiss your Personal Israel Firster Agenda.
Say hi to Israel Firster Victor, Justice.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 3:10PM
http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-09.....ainst-war/
Rand Paul:
"Ron Paul: Well, one at a time, a small number of Republicans are coming around, but I think the Republican leadership actually, is pretty pro-war. If you look at us, when they criticize Obama and say that he’s doing a terrible job, it isn’t because they would like to back-off from some of this activity, it’s because they’re not doing enough. When they proposed spending cuts they said “except for this militarism,” for the military-industrial complex, so, I would say, the people and a lot of conservative independents in the Tea Party movement, it’s a lot of people there saying, “Enough is enough.” But, unfortunately, we have a little bit of work to do to get more Republicans because when we have votes, when Dennis and I will get to work to bring a vote to the floor, even though the majority of the Democrats won’t be with us, he gets more Democrats, a significant number more of Democrats being opposed to the war than Republicans. So, we’re still down in less than a dozen members of the Congress that are Republicans that will support an anti-war position."
Say hello to Tim*.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 5:34PM
Duuuuhhhhhh !
Tea Party Senator Dr. Rand Paul ain't Tea Party Congressman & The New Republican Chairman of The House Financial Services Monetary Sub-Committee Dr."Ron" Paul.
Aaaand to quote Ronald Reagan:
Ronald Reagan On Defense Waste:
" During my 1980 campaign, I called federal waste and fraud a national scandal. We knew we could never rebuild America's strength without first controlling the exploding cost of defense programs, and we're doing it. When we took office in 1981, costs had been escalating at an annual rate of 14 percent. Then we began our reforms. And in the last two years, cost increases have fallen to less than 1 percent. We've made huge savings. Each F-18 fighter costs nearly $4 million less today than in 1981. One of our air-to-air missiles costs barely half as much.
Getting control of the defense bureaucracy is no small task. Each year the Defense Department signs hundreds of thousands of contracts. So yes, a horror story will sometimes turn up despite our best efforts. That's why we appointed the first Inspector General in the history of the Defense Department. And virtually every case of fraud or abuse has been uncovered by our Defense Department, our Inspector General. Secretary Weinberger should be praised, not pilloried, for cleaning the skeletons out of the closet. As for those few who have cheated taxpayers or have swindled our Armed Forces with faulty equipment, they are thieves stealing from the arsenal of democracy, and they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
Say Hi to Apocalyptic Israel Firster Crank Lady Victor- Margie.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 6:48PM
Father Paul's in love and marriage with Chuck Hagel who spoke of impeaching Dick Cheney,
He also thinks Dennis Kusinich would make a good President.
This is the type of mind he has.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJcnoDfFWhM
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 7:12PM
Randy Paul's just like his Daddy. Ya know, we have to try and "understand" the perspective of the terrorists~ poor babies.
"Iran feels threatened because we have troops in Iraq and troops in Afghanistan... we have to understand their perspective, that they feel threatened."
Rand Paul, 2008
Yeah, just what we need, right?
Oh! They say~ Oh! But he's good on the financial!
Ha! The sneaky Libertarian Pauls try and make it about the financial, and do not question them about their lawless desires for the legalization of drugs, the "Morning After Pill" and other thing. And especially don't question them about their Alex Jones and Anti-War.com mindsets. Not to mention Rand Paul's friendship with Adam Kokesh~ a rabid anti-war nut who protested along with code Pink at McCain/Palin rallies!
Oh No! We musn't do that!
You will have insults hurled upon you with the utmost of vileness and called a liar and a slanderer.
Well, the REAL TEA Partiers are us, and NOT the Paul faction. We are the Sarah Palins and the Michelle Bachmans. We know a good conservative when we see them.
And Haley Barbour is one of them, too.
There are plenty!
Herman Cain is another.
But NOT the anti-war, Blame America Firsters!
They can rot in Hell.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 9:08PM
Again, Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady From Joisey Victor-Margie is all PMS"y because many of We Real Tea Party Patriots & Our Tea Party Senator from The Commonwealth of Kentucky, Dr.Rand Paul & Our Tea Party Co-Favorite With Sarah Palin Dr.Ron Paul don't AssKiss Her Fanatic Israel Firster Agenda.
Our Tea Party Co-Favorites Sarah Palin & Dr.Ron Paul & Our Tea Party Kingmaker & Senate Point Man Senator Jim DeMint all Endorsed Dr.Rand Paul.
Dr. Rand Paul opposes abortion in cases of rape and incest, but hasn't opposed the use of the morning-after pill in cases of rape & incest.
Rand Paul Cosponsors Life at Conception Act
Published on 24 January 2011:
WASHINGTON, D.C. – This week, Senator Rand Paul will join Senator Roger Wicker as an original sponsor of the Life at Conception Act. This legislation declares that the unborn are persons, as prescribed in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
In a statement today, Sen. Paul shared his thoughts on today’s March for Life and on co-sponsoring this important piece of legislation.
“The right to life is prescribed to all Americans in the Declaration of Independence. Ensuring this is upheld is the Constitutional duty of all Members of Congress. I am doing my part by joining my fellow pro-life colleagues in sponsoring the Life at Conception Act, which will protect the sanctity of human life.
Protecting Americans – whether it’s balancing the budget or ensuring no child will be denied the right to life – is my priority now – as it has always been. As a medical student, I was one of a small group of students who opted out of learning abortion procedures. My regard for the sanctity of life has carried me throughout my career as a physician and I am proud to join my new colleagues to continue this fight for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all Americans, born and unborn.”
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 5:56PM
He opposes abortion in the cases of rape & incest yet approves the "Morning After Pill?"
The Murder pill stills kills a human life, therefore he's a hypocrite.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 8:05PM
Gee Apocalyptic Crank Lady Israel Firster Victor-Margie, Ann Coulter Endorses Dr.Ron Paul for 2012.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPygNYXXQGk
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 8:24PM
LOL! You really took her seriously?
Then why did she Tweet this a few days ago:
"Watching Herman Cain on CSPAN. He is clearly the only choice for president if Christie doesn't run."
6:15 PM Mar 20th via web
Retweeted by 100+ people
AnnCoulter
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 8:56PM
Smoke this Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
In answer to an audience question at a YAF meeting, Ann Coulter said: "Ron Paul is very smart. So I don't want to talk to him too long for fear that he will convince me."
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 9:02PM
Convince her to what? Become a Blame America Firster? LOL~ Annie, git yer guns, gal!
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 9:22PM
Convince Her like Dr.Ron Paul has convinced many Tea Party Patriots Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
Our Tea Party Patriots Mission Statement Trumps Your Israel Firster Agenda Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 10:09PM
The only Troll here that has an agenda is you, punk.
Your filthy hate towards Christians and Jews is what God's going to judge you for.
Your perverted psych games~ you have no idea how much God hates them. Your a liar and a despicable animal.
Party on liar. Jesus is coming back soon with His recompense.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 9:56AM
Apparently, Anti-Catholic Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie Didn't Get The Memo.
We Catholics Are Christians Too, You Fanatic Bigot From Joisey.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 5:50PM
A Christian is one born of God's Spirit, according to the Bible~ that book you reject.
Catholicism is not Christianity because it is not Bible based. It is perverted doctrines, using the Bible, which God hates.
Individuals who do not know God (born of His Spirit) are being led astray, such as yourself.
If you reject His words~ you reject Him.
His words are found in the Bible.
"Jesus answered him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born anew, he cannot see the Kingdom of God." Nicode'mus said to him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?" Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." John 3:3-6.
Rome doesn't teach this.
Do you care about what God teaches?
Do you know about this, and do you want to be able to enter His Kingdom?
john| 3.27.11 @ 8:16PM
"Catholicism is not Christianity.."
"God of Rome"
Are you a member of the KKK? Do you read what you write?
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 9:23PM
Do you actually read the Bible?
Or do you bow to the god of Rome who pretends to be Jesus, and kiss his ring along with the rest of the poor saps?
Get right with God, john.
Your Religion is a huge fraud.
john| 3.28.11 @ 8:00AM
Is this the famous mullah margie?
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 5:53PM
I'm an America Firster, therefore I back our allies~ and Israel is one of them.
Why do you have so much hatred towards them?
What is wrong with you?
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 12:26AM
Clint:"Bzzzzt"
"Ann Coulter re Ron Paul at CPAC YAF speech
Submitted by eaglewings on Sun, 02/10/2008 - 21:27
in Daily Paul Liberty Forum
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Via Lew Rockwell: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blo.....19323.html
In answer to an audience question at a YAF meeting, Ann Coulter said: "Ron Paul is very smart. So I don't want to talk to him too long for fear that he will convince me."
This was in FEB 2008!
Let's see if she'll say this today.
Oooops,
she said the follwing 6 days ago:
"Watching Herman Cain on CSPAN. He is clearly the only choice for president if Christie doesn't run."
6:15 PM Mar 20th via web
Retweeted by 100+ people
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 10:03AM
Uh Oh !
Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie Is all bent out of shape because Ann Coulter said,""Ron Paul is very smart. So I don't want to talk to him too long for fear that he will convince me."
Ya Callin' Ann Coulter A Liar , Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie ?
You're Up .
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 10:07AM
Ann Coulter:
"Watching Herman Cain on CSPAN. He is clearly the only choice for president if Christie doesn't run."
6:15 PM Mar 20th via web
Retweeted by 100+ people
One WEEK ago!
Yours is three YEARS ago!
She clearly changed her mind.
Why don't you ask her?
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 12:19PM
Since it has You all PMS'y & Angst Ridden Apocalyptic Israel Firster Fanatic Crank Lady Victor-Margie, Why Don't You Ask Ann Coulter why she said,"Ron Paul is very smart. So I don't want to talk to him too long for fear that he will convince me." ?
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 10:44AM
Ann Coulter:
""Watching Herman Cain on CSPAN. He is clearly the only choice for president if Christie doesn't run."
6:15 PM Mar 20th via web
Retweeted by 100+ people
That was one WEEK ago.
Yours is 3 YEARS ago!
She changed her mind on account of she came to her senses.
Why don't you go and ask her if she still endorses Paul, eh?
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 12:04PM
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 12:11PM
Ann Coulter said,""Ron Paul is very smart. So I don't want to talk to him too long for fear that he will convince me."
Like Me & Unlike You, Ann Coulter likes "Both" of these American Military Veterans , Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 1:08PM
Oh ! That's Right, I confused Herman Cain with Allen West, Who was a Military Officer, as was Dr.Ron Paul.
Cain never served in Our Military as a Serviceman.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 7:00PM
The apple doesn't fall far from Father Paul's tree:
Randy Paul says:
"Is rolling back the empire not the first order of business for shoring up the economy?"
"Yes I think they're interrelated, and they've become the politicial coalition you need to win a race basically. Because here are people on the left who acknowledge the vast expenditures of the military industrial complex, and there are people on the right who are beginning to understand that. There's a sort of left-right paradigm that you bring these groups together in order to try to win an election. I think it's coming."
AntiWar Radio interview may 17, 2009
Oooh yeah, that "Empire" America. Baad, Baad America!
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 8:11PM
Actually, Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie The Apple Doesn't Fall Far From Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan On Defense Waste:
"Much of the waste in defense is directly attributable to the appropriations process. The vote delays on the MX missile and the suspension of the B-1 bomber cost this country billions of dollars--dollars that were lost forever as those systems that were set back had to be reprogrammed at higher cost.
"The report also calls for less micromanagement," he said. "Instead of scrutinizing every paper clip, bolt and bullet, Congress should give more thought to our overall defense needs and strategy."
The President particularly praised the commission's recommendation for five-year spending projections and two-year budget cycles for the Pentagon. "We are the only major country in the world that rewrites its defense budget every year," Reagan said.
"The waste that results is immense," he said. "No company in the private sector could survive if it couldn't plan for the future. The effect of funding programs this way is less defense and more cost."
Reagan appointed the commission, headed by former Deputy Defense Secretary David Packard, last June and asked it to propose reforms that would end "horror stories" about $600 toilet seat covers, $400 hammers and fierce interservice rivalries."
Occam's Tool| 3.25.11 @ 6:13PM
Well, if you are Victor, say hi to Margie---both you guys are aces in my book.
Note how Clint types in a neurosyphilitic way.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 9:15PM
"O LORD, how long shall the wicked, how long shall the wicked exult?" Ps. 94:3.
Not too much longer, OT. Not too much longer.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 9:28PM
Uh Oh !
Now, Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie of The Church Of Victor-Margie can tell all the practicing Jews & Muslims where She thinks they go when they die.
You're up Hypocrite Bigot.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 10:00PM
Slime Bag Extraordinaire.
As always.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:21AM
Apocalyptic Crank Lady Nutbag Religious Bigot From Joisey Extraordinaire.
As Always.
Justice| 3.26.11 @ 12:14PM
Your god is the god of Rome.
My God is the God of the Bible.
One is True~ the other is a fraud.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 5:25PM
You're God Comes from Your Personal Psychotic Interpretation of A Bible written by men translating from Ancient Hebrew & Aramaic,into Greek,etc.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 5:42PM
"First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." 2 Pe. 1:20 & 21.
Occam's Tool| 3.25.11 @ 6:08PM
Ron Paul votes with Kucinich, Clint. Rand doesn't have a decades long voting record. The neurosyphilis is getting to you.
And I know Clint doesn't represent Tea Partiers; I'm one myself.
And, by the way, Clint--G-d never breaks his contracts, blasphemous worm.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 7:54PM
You're A Chickenhawk Israel Firster Agenda Girl,who attempts to use Amrican Military as Cannon Fodder for Your Israel Firster Agenda.
Now,tell us how many IDF troops were KIA & WIA in Afghanistan & Iraq,Chickenhawk Israel Firster Troll Tool Job.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 12:37AM
Occam's Tool:
"Ron Paul votes with Kucinich,"
Not only Kucinich, but Barney Frank, Bernie Sanders and 53 other loonie kazoonies.
If Ron Paul is in bed with these malodorous malefactors, that means Clint is in there as well.
http://www.house.gov/frank/doc.....letter.pdf
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 12:27PM
Apparently, You didn't get the memo, Silly Israel Firster Fanatic Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie, Your Girlfriend, Israel Firster Tool Job just agreed multiple times with Kucinich , Ron Paul & many of We Real Tea Party American Conservatives about staying out of Libya.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:31AM
Justice, you can only feel pity for anti-Semites since their real heroes lost WW II and today live in backwards places in the world.
What is amazing is how much they're like the Michael Moores and Daily Kos readers all the while claiming they're conservatives. I'm guessing they weren't fans of that RINO, Israel firster Ronald Reagan either.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 6:26AM
Uh Oh !
Now GOP Ruling Elite RINO-CINO Apologist Fop Tomlinson tries to Play both The Anti-Semite Card & The Nazi Card.
That's Strike Three For You, RINO-CINO Ruling Elite Acolyte Fop Tomlinson.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Justice| 3.26.11 @ 10:50AM
Michael,
I quit posting here because of scum like him. It seems to me this place is taken over by his ilk. It disgusts me.
I actually got banned by some editor or other but (Quin reallowed me back under a "conditional" something or other~ because I "name called."
But do you see the VILENESS of this punk? Clint?Tim*?
Yet I called him what he is ~ a punk, and scum~ and the moderators drop in on me to warm me! I think I was the only one here to ever get that.
Just stopped by to post my thoughts on Barbour and got entangled with the creep again. What's really sad is that everyone else here allows it~ they actually like the creep.
This place is for the Lefty Libertarians. And a few real conservatives. Notice how the creep uses Ronald Reagan? It disgusts me.
I hope he rots in Hell.
vladdy| 3.26.11 @ 3:08PM
Best way to deal with attention-seekers is not to give it to them. He honestly thinks he's witty...and profound. Leave him to his hallucinations.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 10:35PM
Get Bent Russkie Twerp?
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 1:21AM
Chort tebya vozmi
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 10:12AM
Za-ebees Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:50PM
Bye bye, vladdy. The crowd here actually likes the scumbag.
I'm outta here.
Excelsior!
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 12:33PM
Apocalyptic Israel Firster Fanatic Nut Bag Victor-Margie says,
"I quit posting here because of scum like him. It seems to me this place is taken over by his ilk. It disgusts me.
I actually got banned by some editor or other but (Quin reallowed me back under a "conditional" something or other~ because I "name called."
After all your Drama Queen Hissy Fit Rant Departure, You Come Crawlin' Back because No other Web Site Will Have Ya.
Welcome Home Screwball Fanatic Israel Firster Victor-Margie From Joisey.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 1:21PM
Now, on the other hand to be fair, other web sites may have Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie as their Daily Ranter or Troll & She just missed Us over here, at American Spectator.
Welcome Back Apocalyptic Israel Firster Angry Zany Joisey Broad Victor-Margie.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:49PM
Your disgusting posts are always filled with lies such as these.
Don't worry~ I'm not back. Sorry to disturb your party. I'm glad I'm not one of you and your ilk. The American Spectator has gone to the dogs such as yourself.
Party on, animal.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 2:13PM
Yeah GOP Ruling Elite Fop, like Tea Party Targets RINO-CINO's Arlen Specter & Mike Castle.
Jack| 3.25.11 @ 2:52PM
Angle in NV shows what can happen when you take a well meaning person and throw them into the arena with a Media and a ruthless opponent that is capable of doing anything to further their agenda. It will always remind me why a typical American with good intentions can't run in todays vicious climate. Take a look at what is happening to Art Robinson's children in Oregon because he dared to run against Defazio.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 2:01PM
I have never voted for or donated to Dr.Ron Paul .
However, We Real Tea Party Patriots recognize Dr.Ron Paul, as a Tea Party Co-Favorite, pulling equal Tea Party support, at around 41 to 42 Percent.
Tell it to Ronald Reagan.
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan
Occam's Tool| 3.25.11 @ 6:11PM
Reagan didn't write loveletters about Paul after the Berlin Wall fellAfter 1988 as Paul became the treasonous scumbag Clint worships.
He has never donated to Paul because living in his parents' basement in a hole cut in his childhood Donkey-Kong game doesn't give him much time to earn a living.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 7:24PM
Yeah, Reagan said that in guess what year? 1976!
The disingenuous hack fails to mention that.
Gotta make his man look good.
More on Rand Paul:
http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.....-anti.html
Note to the Clint/Tim*s of the country:
It Ain't Just About The Money, Dudes!
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 8:27PM
Ronald Reagan:
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 9:07PM
Another quote from decades ago. Keep it up though, people who read here will do their own research and will also throw up in their mouths when making the comparison to Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul.
Ronald Reagan loved Israel~ anyone can do a Google search to read his comments and strong stance.
You anti-semitic freaks try and claim him but your making a fool out of yourself.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 9:47PM
Uh Oh !
Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie attempts to Play The Anti-Semite Card on Tea Party Patriot Clint & Our Tea Party Co-Favorite with Sarah Palin, Dr.Ron Paul.
Quote Ronald Reagan ever Badmouthing Dr.Ron Paul , Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
They Both endorsed each other.
Ronald Reagan:
“The United States has thus far sought to play the role of mediator. We have avoided public comment on the key issues. We have always recognized and continue to recognize that only the voluntary agreement of those parties most directly involved in the conflict can provide an enduring solution. But it’s become evident to me that some clearer sense of America’s position on the key issues is necessary to encourage wider support for the peace process. . . . the immediate adoption of a settlement freeze by Israel, more than any other action, could create the confidence needed for wider participation in these talks. Further settlement activity is in no way necessary for the security of Israel.”
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 1:02AM
I'll see your quote with no citation and raise you one real one with an actual date:
Address to the Nation on United States Policy for Peace in the Middle East
September 1, 1982
"I call on the Palestinian people to recognize that their own political aspirations are inextricably bound to recognition of Israel's right to a secure future.
And I call on the Arab States to accept the reality of Israel—and the reality that peace and justice are to be gained only through hard, fair, direct negotiation."
Your up Buckwheat.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 10:34AM
Ronald Reagan, September 1st, 1982:
"First, as outlined in the Camp David accords, there must be a period of time during which the Palestinian inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza will have full autonomy over their own affairs. Due consideration must be given to the principle of self-government by the inhabitants of the territories and to the legitimate security concerns of the parties involved.
The purpose of the five-year period of transition which would begin after free elections for a self-governing Palestinian authority is to prove to the Palestinians that they can run their own affairs, and that such Palestinian autonomy poses no threat to Israel's security.
The United States will not support the use of any additional land for the purpose of settlements during the transition period. Indeed, the immediate adoption of a settlement freeze by Israel, more than any other action, could create the confidence needed for wider participation in these talks. Further settlement activity is in no way necessary for the security of Israel and only diminishes the confidence of the Arabs and a final outcome can be freely and fairly negotiated."
You're Up Golda.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 11:32AM
"The purpose of the five-year period of transition which would begin after free elections for a self-governing Palestinian authority is to prove to the Palestinians that they can run their own affairs, and that such Palestinian autonomy poses no threat to Israel's security."
This all depends on your Palestinian Pals behaving themselves and acting responsibly and stopping launching missiles into Israel.
That will never happen.
Reagan knew that , that's why he said it.
That's why he supported Israel.
From the book, " Reagan: A life in Letters: a letter to a Ms. Shirley I. Leviton dated October 25, 1982 on page 454 assering his commitment to Israel:
Dear Ms Leviton,
I'm sorry to be so late in answering your wire. It takes a while before things make their way through the system to my desk.
I just want you to assure you we do intend that negotiations should be within the framework of Camp David, and U.N. Resolutions 242 and 338.
This of course requires acceptance of Israel's RIGHT to EXIST as a nation. I have so informed a meeting of Arab leaders in a White House meeting.
We have NEVER and will NEVER retreat from that position.
Sincerely
Ronald Reagan,
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 11:55AM
As an American & Not An Israel Firster Fanatic Agenda Freak, like You Apocalyptic Crank Lady victor-Margie, I don't place any of those Sand Monkey Tribes,Israeli or Palestinian ahead of Our United States National Interests.
Ronald Reagan, September 1st,1982:
"First, as outlined in the Camp David accords, there must be a period of time during which the Palestinian inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza will have full autonomy over their own affairs. Due consideration must be given to the principle of self-government by the inhabitants of the territories and to the legitimate security concerns of the parties involved.
The purpose of the five-year period of transition which would begin after free elections for a self-governing Palestinian authority is to prove to the Palestinians that they can run their own affairs, and that such Palestinian autonomy poses no threat to Israel's security.
The United States will not support the use of any additional land for the purpose of settlements during the transition period. Indeed, the immediate adoption of a settlement freeze by Israel, more than any other action, could create the confidence needed for wider participation in these talks. Further settlement activity is in no way necessary for the security of Israel and only diminishes the confidence of the Arabs and a final outcome can be freely and fairly negotiated."
That's Why Ronald Reagan supported Palestinian Autonomy too.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 8:21PM
The Chickenhawk Fixated Israel Firster Troll Tool Job is all upset & atwitter because Ronald Reagan Endorsed Dr.Ron Paul & Dr.Ron Paul endorsed Ronald Reagan.
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan
You're A Slandering Liar,Israel Firster Chickenhawk Troll Tool Job.
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:32AM
You mean Ronald Reagan the RINO, Israel Firster?
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:18AM
Asked & Answered RINO-CINO GOP Ruling Elite Fop Tomlinson.
I mean This Ronald Reagan:
“The United States has thus far sought to play the role of mediator. We have avoided public comment on the key issues. We have always recognized and continue to recognize that only the voluntary agreement of those parties most directly involved in the conflict can provide an enduring solution. But it’s become evident to me that some clearer sense of America’s position on the key issues is necessary to encourage wider support for the peace process. . . . the immediate adoption of a settlement freeze by Israel, more than any other action, could create the confidence needed for wider participation in these talks. Further settlement activity is in no way necessary for the security of Israel.”
Ya Wanna Mess With Ronald Reagan Now, RINO-CINO GOP Ruling Elite Apologist &Arlen; Specter Type Acolyte Fop Tomlinaon?
Amjean| 3.25.11 @ 1:46PM
Research Palin's record - not what friends and enemies or the lamestream media says about her - read her record.
She leaves the rest in the dust.
Brian Mc| 3.25.11 @ 3:13PM
The mealy-mouthed middle people are too lazy, Amjean. They would rather wait for the soundbite on CNN and the joke to follow on SNL. That way they sound like they are on top of things around the water cooler. You are preaching to the choir; we do our research-wherever and whenever we can-that's why we are here.
Oldefarte| 3.25.11 @ 2:54PM
Barbour is one of many truly qualified Republican potential candidates, any/all of whom can IMO fairly easily defeat the current non-president, who was elected ignorantly by voters wary of the former administration's war policies. CHOSEN is now completely out of his closet and thoroughly exposed for what/who he is [and there's no going back; he can't disguise his ineptness now]. HOWDY-DOODY has come to life, or possibly HUMPTY-DUMPTY [who will TAKE A GREAT FALL in 2012 for sure]!!!!!!!!!
voted against carter| 3.26.11 @ 5:10PM
This friggin IDIOT Barbour thinks "Global-What ever you call it this week" IS REAL.
GLOBAL-WARMING is a SCAM.
WE DO NOT need an other retard in office who buy's Al Gore's flim-flam Power Point presentation.
Oh, and this friggin Idjut IS ALSO a RINO.
So there is that.
MyGirlFriday| 3.25.11 @ 3:16PM
Thank you Mr. Klein for your informative article covering Mr. Barbour. I will certainly view the C-SPAN videos and have also noted your other sources regarding his record. I am disappointed to read some of the posts here which lead to the narrative: "fat"/"old"/"southern"/"white"/"men"/ (take your pick) need not apply. I would hope that we all do our due diligence as citizens, research each candidates record prior to writing a candidate off. Conservatives should know better than anyone that no matter who we put up as our candidate in 2012 that man or woman will be unfairly attacked and besmirched by much of the Democratic base.
WM| 3.25.11 @ 3:58PM
One thing that comes through loud and clear in this interview: This man does not have the vision, principles, or fire to lead a rollback. He is too busy defending government interference in the market.
Ali Brooks| 3.26.11 @ 1:22PM
very guod
PattyMor| 3.25.11 @ 5:17PM
Yes to Palin, Bachmann, DeMint, Cain, or Barbour, in that order. No to Romneycare Romney, Gingrich with his global warming commercial with Miss Nancy, Huckabee with his loads of pardons, or TPAW who also flirted with
Global Warming. The Donald may be interesting, but with his bankruptcies and divorces, we don't need the headaches. But, kudos for taking on the Bamster for his non-disclosure of his birth certificate.
We need a solid conservative who can tackle the big issues of social security, medicare and medicaid. Guts to get drilling for oil and gas done, plus kill subsidies for windmills, solar panels, and ethanol. Kill farm subsidies. Make welfare temporary. Rebuild our foreign policy and repair relationships. Kill the START Treaty. Rebuilt our military and get the heck out of Muslim countries.
voted against carter| 3.26.11 @ 5:09PM
This friggin IDIOT Barbour thinks "Global-What ever you call it this week" IS REAL.
GLOBAL-WARMING is a SCAM.
WE DO NOT need an other retard in office who buy's Al Gore's flim-flam Power Point presentation.
Oh, and this friggin Idjut IS ALSO a RINO.
So there is that.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 8:17PM
Here the REAL reason Clint/Tim* and the Paul ilks can't stand Haley Barbour:
"Barbour said he supports strong ties between the U.S. and Israel. "It is a critical relationship for a variety of reasons," he said. "Israel is our genuine unfledgling [sic] ally. They don't flinch as being our ally. They are also a very potent ally militarily but also in terms of technology, economically, morally....[W]e've got to be committed to a secure, prosperous, Jewish, democratic Israel."
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 8:40PM
You're A Slandering Liar Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
I haven't badmouthed Haley Barbour.
When that other Tea Party Serial Basher, Michael Badmouthed Our Tea Party Senator from The Commonwealth of Kentucky, Dr.Rand Paul, I asked,"What has Haley Barbour Done in 2011 to Walk His Talk "?, where Our Tea Party Senator Dr.Rand Paul opposed provisions of The Patriot Act, Co-Sponsored the Repeal of FCC Net Neutrality Regs, introduced A "Read The Bills" Resolution, Voted "No" on The Continuing Budget Resolution, and Presented His Five Year Budget Plan.
Ya Wanna make somethin' of it Apocalyptic Crank Lady Israel Firster AgendaBroad Victor-Margie ?
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 8:58PM
Who said you badmouthed him, Tim*?
What I said was you can't stand him.
Psych games as always.
Twisted as always.
Right, Israel hating little man?
You can't stand the Truth~ as always.
You're the Major Slanderer, punky boy.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 9:34PM
You're A Slandering Liar Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
I like Haley Barbour much more than Your Mancrush Serial Traitor to Conservatism John McCain.
Tell Us About McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Kennedy, The Gang of 14, Opposing The 2001 & 2003 Bush Tax Cuts & Voting For TARP.
You're Up Israel Firster Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie From Joisey.
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 9:52PM
Tell us which cesspool of slime you came forth out of~since you believe in Evolution.
Clint| 3.25.11 @ 10:11PM
Well, Bigot Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie, Our Catholic Church allows for the possibility that man’s body developed from previous biological forms, under God’s guidance, but it insists on the special creation of his soul. Pope Pius XII declared that "the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—[but] the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God" (Pius XII, Humani Generis 36). So whether the human body was specially created or developed, we are required to hold as a matter of Catholic faith that the human soul is specially created; it did not evolve, and it is not inherited from our parents, as our bodies are. "
Wanna make somethin' Of It Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie ?
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:46AM
The Father Coughlin/Ante Pavelić/Pat Buchanan school of "humanities." Now it all makes sense.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:07AM
Let's See RINO-CINO Smart Ass Tomlinson, First Ya Try Badmouthing Our Tea Party Candidates & now Ya make A Smart Ass Comment when I address An Anti-Catholic Israel Firster Nut Bag Agendist about The Catholic Church's stand on Evolution.
That's Strike Two for You, RINO-CINO GOP Ruling Elite Apologist Fop & Arlen Specter Acolyte Tomlinson.
The Tea Party Escalates.
Carpe Diem.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 12:58AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin
Justice| 3.26.11 @ 11:07AM
Your Catholic church lies to you.
The God of the Bible says He CREATED MAN from the DUST of the earth.
"..then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." Gen. 2:7.
Who do they think they are, calling God a liar?
His Judgment will be SWIFT.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 10:38PM
Tell It To Your Catholic Mommy & Daddy Lapsed Catholic with an Ax To Grind Anti-Catholic Whack Job Crank Lady Victor-Margie from Joisey.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 5:36PM
Tell it to the liars who are representing your Religion, scumbag.
Call God a liar about what HE says~ and call it His truth?
It's an abomination. You want to defend it? That's your "choice".
Lotsa luck!
Justice| 3.25.11 @ 10:34PM
Hey punk~
I could care less what your Religion says.
Christians go by the words of God Himself.
Make something of it with Him.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 5:12AM
Apocalyptic Anti-Everybody Else's Religion Crank Lady Victor-Margie Got problems with Practicing Catholics, Practicing Jews, Practicing Mormons, Practicing Muslims & Practicing Protestants,Etc ,who don't follow Her Church Of The One Victor-Margie.
Shove Off Religious Bigot Nutbag Victor-Margie.
Justice| 3.26.11 @ 10:53AM
I am anti-SCUM.
Clint| 3.26.11 @ 10:42PM
You Are The Anti-Catholic Scum Bag, Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
Now, tell all the practicing Jews & Muslims where You think they go when they die Bigot Victor-Margie.
You're Up Bigot.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 12:57AM
Tell us where unrepentant predatory pedophile pervert priests go when THEY die.
Your up.
Hebrews 9:27
"And just as it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment,"
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 10:44AM
I imagine, they go to the same place where the unrepentant ongoing predatory pedophile Public School Teachers & Orthodox Jews of The ongoing Brooklyn Sex Scandel go when THEY die, Anti-Catholic Joisey Bigot Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie.
You're Down.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 11:29AM
In other words, they go straight to hell.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 11:43AM
In other words You're an Anti-Catholic Bigot.
Now, Apocalyptic Anti-Catholic Bigot Victor-Margie, tell us all about The Ongoing Sex Abuse in Other Religious Groups & The Public School System,which Dwarfs The Catholic Sex Abusers.
Interesting, how You & The Mainstream Media Agendists Ignore & Minimize all The Ongoing Sex Abuse Elsewhere ,While You Selectly Focus "JUST ON " The Catholic Church Sex Perverts.
You're A Hypocrite Fraud Self-Appointed "Truth Teller "Religious Bigot Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 12:06PM
I've never excused ANY child molesters, no matter who they are.
You seem to be MINIMIZING the priests and absolving them of ANY responsibility and punishment.
Jesus' own words
Mar 9:42
"And whosoever shall offend one of [these] little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea."
They should ALL be millstoned.
Right Clint?
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 12:51PM
You're The Serial Chronic Anti-Catholic Bigot,with an ax to grind against The Catholic Church,who brought Father Coughlin, The Catholic Church's views on Evolution & The Catholic Church Sex Abuse Scandle into this Conversation.
Now, tell all The American Spectator Readers where You say Practicing Jews & Parcricing Muslims go when they die,Apocalyptic Religious Bigot Victor-Margie from Joisey.
Ex Mea Sententia| 3.27.11 @ 3:45PM
So you don't agree with Jesus?
Mark 9:42
"And whosoever shall offend one of [these] little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea."
Is that what you will Jesus when you see Him?
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 6:08PM
I say practicing Jews & Muslims can go to heaven.
You, Rekigious Bigot Victor Margie deviously "Use" Jews & Muslims to carry out your Apocalyptic Agenda regarding Israel & then refuse to quote Jesus & make vague references about practicing Jews & Muslims not going to heaven.
I see Jesus in the proper way,when I converse with him in thought.
You're a flagrant hypocrite, "Using " Religion & Jews & Muslims etc. as weapons, to attempt to carry out your Nasty Ass Agenda.
Jesus Has Your Number Faux Religion "User".
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:16PM
The only one using Muslims and Jews is you, Mr. Denial.
You need some serious help.
I hope you get it~ from the God of the Bible.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 6:42PM
You, Sociopathic Joisey White Trash Apocalyptic Bigot Victor-Margie are way past needin' serious help.
You're A Certifiable Head Case.
You "Use" Jews & Muslims,as "Useful Dupes" to carry Out Your Apocalyptic Agenda,while you believe Practicing Jews & Muslims Go To Hell.
You're A Hypocrite Phoney Religion Self-Appointed "Truth Teller,
Aaaand God has helped Me Plenty.
That's why I easily Deal with Your Crap Agenda.
He Likes Me.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 7:09PM
You're nothing but a delusional lying creep in need of repentance.
I hope you do so before you croak~ because God doesn't like liars~ He actually throws them into Hell.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:29PM
Actually~ that was all your doing, as always, Tim*.
You always and without fail bring the Catholic Religion into any thread where I post.
It's in order to try and discredit me.
I have always said~ and still say that it is with the DOCTRINES of the Religion that unbiblical, and have never taken issue with individuals~ unless they begin attacking me~ which they always do~ and make it personal.
That's because rather than deal with whether or not what I say is the truth, as proven from the Bible itself~ you and some others do not want to deal with it~ so you personally attack.
That's your problem, but it makes you a slanderer~ the very thing you accuse me of~ falsely.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 6:47PM
I just allow You Apocalyptic Anti-Catholic,Anti-Everybody's Religion Bigot Apocalyptic Victor-Margie to Expose Your Fanatic Screwball Agenda.
And You Never Fail To Expose Your Nasty Fanatic Agenda.
A Fool, Such As You Victor-Margie,Bests Yourself.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 7:07PM
God's words speak for themselves~ and they are a witness against you.
You do not "allow" me anything but God allows me, in fact commands me to preach the Gospel~ and I do.
It isn't the Gospel of Rome though, it's the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
The fool is you.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:24PM
In other words, sick man~
The Bible tells us where you go when you die.
But you don't read it or believe it. I will quote God's own words and you can curse on to where ever your destiny might be:
Rome lies to you. God doesn't. What will Rome have to say to this. What does it say to it now? What do you say to it:
""Behold, I am coming soon, bringing My recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End." Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of Life and that they may enter the City by the gates. Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and every one who loves and practices falsehood. "I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright Morning Star." The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let him who hears say, "Come." And let him who is thirsty come, let him who desires take the water of Life without price. I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. He who testifies to these things says, "Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints. Amen." Rev. 22:12-21.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 6:57PM
I know that Your Interpretation of The Bible is the work of mere men taking ancient Hebrew & Aramaic text & translating it into Greek,etc.as they thought it should be interpreted.
Ya wanna Play "Dueling Bibles" Hypocrite Bigot Apocalyptic Crank Lady Victor-Margie?
LK 6:41 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 42 How can you say to your brother, `Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 7:04PM
No interpreting necessary contrary to your above statement.
God gave us His words and makes Himself perfectly clear.
He says that liars go to Hell. Those are His words, not mine.
He gave us those languages precisely so that we could know His words.
Have you ever read for yourself from the original Hebrew and Greek?
Have you ever picked up an Interlinear Bible?
Or do you trust what Rome says? THEY are the ones who have added to His words~ and teach wrongly.
As to the speck in the eye thing~ you're so blind it isn't even funny. Not in the slightest.
You're a filthy mouthed liar yet that is all that you do~ accuse me of it.
Just exactly where have I lied?
You seem to not have much of a conscience at all.
Clint| 3.27.11 @ 11:00PM
You're A Scriptural Buffoon Apocalyptic Anti-Catholic Bigot Victor-Margie.
Exegesis is the correct method of interpretation. This method allows scripture to define the proper interpretation. We want to draw out the meaning of the author. What is the author saying? What is the message to the target audience? How would someone speaking from a particular culture address his audience? Ancient culture differs from our modern culture. Ancient Jewish culture differs from our modern western culture. We think different than Jews of Jesus’ time.
Justice| 3.28.11 @ 12:06AM
Your insults are as disgusting and filthy as befits an anti-Christian and ungodly man.
You really should apply them to yourself. God does~ for you are exactly what you accuse me of being!
Having said that you filthy animal~
I guess the answer to my above questions are~ no?
While you (as usual) accuse me of not knowing the Scriptures, you do not study them at all, do you?
LOL~ you cut & paste a definition probably from the Catholic library but do not even abide by it yourself. What a fraud!
I never see you come from the Bible in any real way, and whenever I do~ you puke all over it.
You are VILE.
I know my Bible, been studying it for 35 years, and most of it daily. What it tells me is all I need to know, and I know a vile snake when I see one.
"But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Let every one who names the Name of the Lord depart from iniquity." 1 Tim. 2:19.
Depart from iniquity, snake!
kay b| 3.25.11 @ 10:53PM
Michelle Bachmann for Prez; Allen West for VP
Michael Tomlinson| 3.26.11 @ 2:39AM
Allen West in time will be a real force in American politics. I think Michelle hurt herself with the Tea Party response to the President and her not so informed understanding of US history in NH. She's a long shot and if Palin enters the race then I think she's doomed since they draw from much of the same constituency.
Andrew P| 3.26.11 @ 2:29AM
Barbour is a good guy, and one of the best presidental contenders we have. However, defeating Obama will be very hard. Especially, since it may not be a 2-man race, either. It looks like Trump will run with a billion of his own money (if the GOP refuses to give him the nomination), and this will split the anti-Obama vote and guarantee Obama's reelection.
voted against carter| 3.26.11 @ 5:07PM
This friggin IDIOT thinks "Global-What ever you call it this week" IS REAL.
GLOBAL-WARMING is a SCAM.
WE DO NOT need an other retard in office who buy's Al Gore's flim-flam Power Point presentation.
Oh, and this friggin Idjut IS ALSO a RINO.
So there is that.
Dee See| 3.26.11 @ 3:59AM
Thanks to a skilfull co-opting op. by Glenn Beck,
Murdoch Globalist FOX News and the Sarah Palin
set-up --to say nothing of the ongoing cultural dumb-down, porno, drugged water, 'tainted'
multiple injections and over 10 years of cadmium CHEM-trailing--Obama WILL be re-elected in 2012.
It's called 'controlled oppostion' and is now at the
service of NAU franchise slum amalgamation,
more RED China sellout ---and EUENICS.
TRUTH HURTS
black leather couch | 3.31.11 @ 2:43AM
Real good. 1000% agree.
Habu| 3.26.11 @ 12:45PM
Youtube slam on obama..too awesome
http://tinyurl.com/4zsewl7
Allah Brooks| 3.26.11 @ 1:06PM
As-Salāmu `Alaykum
Habu| 3.26.11 @ 2:16PM
No doubt this will be argued again: WMD what the DEMs said at the time.
"The intelligence agencies of Britain, Germany, Russia, China, Israel, and France all agreed with this judgment. Even Hans Blix—who headed the UN team of inspectors trying to determine whether Saddam had complied with the demands of the Security Council that he dispose of the WMD he was known to have had in the past—lent further credibility to the case in a report he issued only a few months before the invasion:
"The discovery of a number of ... chemical rocket warheads in a bunker at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This was a relatively new bunker, and therefore the rockets must have been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such munitions.... They could also be the tip of a submerged iceberg. The discovery … points to the issue of several thousands of chemical rockets that are unaccounted for."
The consensus on which President Bush relied was first fully formed in the Clinton administration, as these statements indicate:
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s [WMD] program." – Bill Clinton, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [America], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." – Secretary of State Madeline Albright, 1998
"[Saddam] will use those [WMD] again, as he has ten times since 1983." – Sandy Berger, Clinton’s National Security Adviser, 1998
more Dem quotes on WMDs being in Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/4sckl6y
shipley130| 3.26.11 @ 2:51PM
I think many Americans are thru playing race card games and want to get America back on track. Just like the unions have abused their power, so have the race card players. We have to encourage media to look under the hood at all the republican candidates and pry the RINOs out.
Jack in Wi.| 3.26.11 @ 4:51PM
Ron Paul for President, Rand Paul for Vice President. Drudge had a poll up a few months ago showing Dr. Paul tied with Obama. He is the only one who can get the independent vote. the vast majority of people want all foreign aid cut. Why should most our foreign aid go to kleptocracies like Israel, Egypt, and Jordan? If the Israeli's can't support themselves after 62 years they should just quit.
voted against carter| 3.26.11 @ 5:05PM
This friggin IDIOT thinks "Global-What ever you call it this week" IS REAL.
GLOBAL-WARMING is a SCAM.
WE DO NOT need an other retard in office who buy's Al Gore's flim-flam Power Point presentation.
Oh, and this friggin Idjut IS ALSO a RINO.
So there is that.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:14PM
This "friggin' idiot" has more brains in his pinky fingernail than you have in your whole brain.
Do you even know what day it is?
Fredo| 3.26.11 @ 5:33PM
"I think many Americans are thru playing race card games".......
well some Americans are with you but can you get the blacks on board? Almost their entire leadership will whip it when they need it ...Shrapton, a two bit punk who conned on Tawanna Brawley and then went on to be a black leader..actually that typeof list is almost endless.
So in reality the race card is alive and in the deck, next to the joker.
A conservative voter| 3.26.11 @ 10:00PM
I couldn't support Barbour for President. I think former Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota might be a good choice on the Republican Party ticket. Pawlenty is both fiscal and social conservative like former the late Pres. Ronald Reagan. It is at www.timpawlenty.com
Lawrence Cannon| 3.27.11 @ 9:48AM
Despite the image, Mississippi politicians tend to be very shrewd and pragmatic. Most Miss. voters want their politicians to be well-trained and experienced before taking office (Ole Miss law school, House and Senate staffer, State Legislator, Congressman, and so on. That makes for very effective Congressmen who can work the inside game behind closed doors and bring home the bacon for their constituents.
Unfortunately, while Mississippi politicians make very good Representatives and Senators it makes for terrible Executives. The only President from Mississippi was Jefferson Davis (who was experienced and well-trained, but had no vision and was small-minded).
Haley Barbour did excellent work in the wake of Katrina, but I don't know how that'll translate into leading America during these dangerous times. I don't think our nation is ready to elect a jowly, good 'ol boy White Mississippi as its Chief Executive.
Habu| 3.27.11 @ 11:07AM
Iremember as a kid the TV show "The Millionaire"...and a mighty inpression a millions dollars made.Even today ti still talks to the man on the street. But soon there were billions ,now trillions which begins to loose comprehension.
So for those who can't comprehend our 15 trillion dollar deficit, think of it this way.
15 trillion is 15 THOUSAND BILLION DOLLARS...makes ya think doesn't it?
Oh yeah that's our money the spending like so many grains of sand and it ain't for potholes in the road or defense ....trillions have gone into the pockets of the already super rich on Wall Street so they in turn can buy a president.
Richard Baker| 3.27.11 @ 11:35AM
This is March of 2011. Barbour has many good ideas and thoughts. Instead of beating him up because he's been politically involved, why not sift through him and the other possibile candidates without sounding like crazed leftists? Is that too much to ask? I suggest one and all read Michael Reagan's book,"The New Reagan Revolution" as a source of ideas on how to restore America. Just read it myself and found much with which to agree. As a Catholic here in the US, I find the Demon Romanism frenzy hilarious. I'll let the Lord Himself tell me if I've erred and not Man. Pax.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 6:12PM
The Bible already tells us that Rome is wrong. Do you read it?
Do you care?
Or are you mocking your way to Hell?
Richard Baker| 3.27.11 @ 11:36AM
possible, not possibile.
Richard Baker| 3.27.11 @ 9:23PM
Justice:
It's so funny to watch you become exercised. We'll see now won't we? Ta.
Justice| 3.27.11 @ 11:50PM
Freaks like you thrive on it, I know.
However, you're the poor sap living a lie, not me.
Lotsa luck.
Richard Baker| 3.28.11 @ 7:49AM
Justice:
What a misnomer. I hear the Westboro Baptist Church is looking for new members. Apply.
Christian Louboutin | 6.23.11 @ 4:14AM
In news accounts assessing the likely 2012 Republican presidential field, there are a number of descriptions typically associated with Mississippi governor Haley Barbour. White Southerner. Thick accent. Gifted fundraiser. Connected. Former lobbyist. But when you ask those who know him, another characterization comes to mind.
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