What is democracy for if you cannot have big public debates?
In a breath-taking, yet characteristic, statement, President
Obama said the other day that "it is in the interests of the United
States, and more importantly in the interests of the Libyan people,
that Mr. Gaddafi leave…" Who elected him, the American people or
the Libyan people? And yet, is this not the typically perverse
liberal formulation of why we do anything?
The anti-Gaddafi revolt began in Cyrenea in the Libyan
east, which figures. Gaddafi's tribal roots are in Tripolitania,
and his 1969 coup, which overthrew the pro-American King Idris I,
represented an assault upon the latter's base and its religious
networks. Like many other post-colonial states (including Iraq),
Libya as a unitary state is a recent invention. It may or may not
last, and the anti-Gaddafi rebels, for their part, assert their
ambition to liberate the whole country from the aging tyrant and
his regime of predators. In doing this they express the old
anti-colonial reflex of "national liberation." Its practical
consequence has been to provide a justification for the arbitrary
and brutal rule of authoritarian elites that are almost invariably
based on narrow tribal affinities but that claim to hold power in
the name of a "state" that serves the "nation." A central purpose
of this kind of post-colonial state is to inhibit the development,
or more precisely re-development, of the consultative assemblies at
the local, tribal, or regional levels that, as Bernard Lewis has
stressed repeatedly, were the pre-modern, proto-democratic
institutions commonly found in Arab-Islamic lands.
In Libya and elsewhere these institutions and the
surviving religious networks are now, in a sense, taking their
revenge after forty years of oppression. It is no more sure they
can be revived than it is to expect a revitalized Russian
duma. In Algeria, an attempt along these lines took place
in Kabylie 10 years ago when village organizations called
arch's, traditional local assemblies among the Berbers of
this region, demanded respect for local grievances from the central
government. The latter dealt with the challenge through a mix of
concessions and repression. The recent demonstrations, though
sparked by the revolts in Tunisia and Egypt, come out of the
arch's movement; thus far the government has kept them
from gaining any traction.
It is not entirely zany of Gaddafi -- nothing he does and
says is as zany as at first appears -- to assert he is fighting el
Qaeda. As a kind of Arab fascist -- Libya was under Italian Fascist
rule until 1943 -- Gaddafi always saw the mosque as a challenge to
his power, particularly the traditionalist mosque led by the
Senoussi, whose influence was mainly in Cyrenea. Theologically,
these share traditionalist and reactionary ideas with the Muslim
Brothers and the Salafists (including Bin Laden's el Qaeda),
without being quite so intoxicated with anti-Western venom.
However, no one has heard them repudiate Gaddafi's
anti-Semitism.
In this regard, it cannot be underscored too often that
the upheavals across North Africa and the Middle East are occurring
with practically no reference to the Arab-Israel dispute. Poisoned
by the anti-Semitism of their leaders, the litmus test of
liberalization in these countries will be the attitudes adopted
toward Israel when things quiet down and new people take charge --
and toward the U.S.
Neither we nor the Israelis need to be loved by Muslims,
but it must be made clear to them that their scorn and hostility
come at a price. The statement by President Obama last week
expresses a debilitating ambivalence about whom we really want to
please, and it is not unique to American leaders. President Nicolas
Sarkozy took a bold, some might even say reckless, position when he
recognized the Benghazi-based Libyan National Council and suggested
air strikes were on the way. One almost expected to see Foreign
Legionnaires, backed by British S.A.S. teams, jumping on Tripoli.
This is in fact, one can safely bet, what many Libyans and others
in the region expected, even wanted. But they are used to hearing
bold Gallic talk followed by explanations that the European
Council, or the NATO council, or some other council, must be
consulted. Consultation in multilateral councils is precisely what
the dictators count on; it is a major reason why they are such
great fans of the U.N., although they do not pay its
bills.
The French, the British, and the others are, it is true,
to some degree hostage to 30, 40 years of immigration policies that
have resulted in large Muslim populations in their midst, or more
exactly on the margins of their large cities. France has the
largest Muslim population in Europe (census laws do not permit
counting by race or religion, but typical estimates put Muslims at
10 percent of a French population of 62 million), and French
foreign policy, explicitly or not, takes this into
account.
France's Arab policy in fact pre-dates the immigration
issue. From de Gaulle on, the axiom has been that you do not seek
dust-ups with the Arabs, which is why regime change was viewed with
so much distaste at the Elysée as well as at the Quai d'Orsay. De
Gaulle did not want massive immigration from Muslim countries. It
happened anyway, under rationales not that far removed from the
ones we invented to encourage free trade and free movements of
labor and undermine our manufacturing base.
Sarkozy knows that putting the Legion in Tripoli or
getting control of the air is controversial, and he is going into a
difficult election year. He also knows Libya is easier to handle
than a huge political blowup in Tunisia or Egypt, not to mention
Algeria. Why not make his move now, against a widely reviled
zaim? Is he afraid Obama will pull an Eisenhower-at-Suez
on him? Perhaps it is in anticipation of such a fiasco among
putative allies that both Richard Haass and Henry Kissinger have in
recent days warned that Libya must not distract us from a
potentially far more dangerous blow up in the Gulf.
Even as he weighs risky foreign moves, Sarkozy must hold
France's political center while competing for right-wing votes with
a resurgent National Front. His recent critiques of
multiculturalism, while well within the French integrationist
tradition ("with the Republic, everything; outside the Republic,
nothing"), can be heard with this background in mind, as can his
adamant non to Turkey's application to enter the European
Union, though it too is a traditional French response. Sarkozy, who
has the most "diverse" government in French history, knows he will
not have the Muslim vote anyway, but that does not mean he can beat
the Front for the anti-Muslim vote. His very public firing of his
Muslim advisor on Muslim affairs similarly appears to be not
without political calculation. On substance the two men are very
close -- Abderahmane Dahmany opposes the "communitarian"
organizations that run counter to the ideal of "Republican
integration" -- but he scolds Sarkozy for playing what we would
call a race card by demanding a big public debate on the whole
issue.
It is true the timing is suspect, but then again what is
democracy for if you cannot have big public debates. This one
follows upon last year's on "immigration and integration," which
fell rather flat but which at least broke some verbal
taboos.
Nicolas Sarkozy may be cheesy and politically inept and a
short-attention-span man, but he at least he has the merit of
remembering French national interests. The words of caution on
Libya expressed by such eminent observers as Richard Haass and
Henry Kissinger, echoed by high administration officials as the
Secretary of Defense, are a reminder that too often our own
tendency is to leap before looking and assume the interests, the
aspirations, or whatever, as the kids say, of faraway
peoples are the same as our own. Nothing could be less certain and
it certainly does not help us to make such assumptions and to
transmit the resulting hesitation to our European friends,
especially during the rare moments when they are seized by an
impulse to be bold. #
And in a twist of fate and irony Gaddafi could have said the
same thing of Obama, ""it is in the interests of the United States,
and more importantly in the interests of the American people, that
Mr. Obama leave…"
Tim the Enchanter| 3.15.11 @ 12:20PM
I wish Someone, Somewhere would say that!
Alan Brooks| 3.15.11 @ 10:44PM
So you can elect another Bush?
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 3.16.11 @ 5:47AM
We won't be electing another Obama.
Pelligrino| 3.15.11 @ 8:34AM
I will recount here what is making its rounds in the webosphere
as a workable solution to the Libyan Colonel (the guy who never
could manage that next promotion)
The scheme:
The US really bungles and manages to let one of its armed (with
precision bombs and other munitions) US Air Force fighter-bombers
get stolen by some rebel Libyan fighter jet jockey.
Inside the aircraft just happens to be up-to-the-minute
intelligence on the colonel's wherebouts.
Knowing what to do, this Libyan pilot makes the successful
bombing run and lands the aircraft. Shortly thereafter the US
military seize the fighter-bomber AND this renegade pilot.
With much fanfare, the Libyan pilot is spirited away to the US
for a fake trial in which the judge finds the man medically
incapable to stand trial or face any imprisonment.
In a truly humanitarian gesture (and due to doctors certifying
that this pilot only has months left to live in his life), the US
flies the Libyan renegade home to be reunited with family and
friends for his "final days."
Poetic justice indeed.
Louis Jenkins| 3.15.11 @ 8:47AM
"One almost expected to see Foreign Legionnaires, backed by
British S.A.S. teams, jumping on Tripoli."
I doubt that. France is willing to pass a "no fly" zone,
provided the USA backs it up with their hardware. SAS and Foreign
Legion? Forget it. Screamin' Eagles, some SF groups, or some other
assault group is more likely to be the case. The US is putting on a
brave face, but underneath its forces are hallowed out from 10
years of war.
Tim the Enchanter| 3.15.11 @ 12:22PM
Louis... I saw this in one of your other posts as well- do you
really mean "hallowed", as something praiseworthy, or "hollow", as
in something empty on the inside?
Norman Conquest| 3.15.11 @ 2:29PM
The Middle East is afire with rebellion, Japan is imploding from
an earthquake, and the battle of the budget is on in the United
States, but none of this seems to be deterring President Obama from
a heavy schedule of childish distractions.
The newly installed tandem of White House Chief of Staff William
Daley and Senior Adviser David Plouffe were supposed to impart a
new sense of discipline and purpose to the White House. Instead,
they are permitting him to showcase himself as a poorly focused
leader who has his priorities backward.
This morning, as Japan’s nuclear crisis enters a potentially
catastrophic phase, we are told that Obama is videotaping his NCAA
tournament picks and that we’ll be able to tune into ESPN Wednesday
to find out who he likes.
Saturday, he made his 61st outing to the golf course as president,
and got back to the White House with just enough time for a quick
shower before heading out to party with Washington’s elite
journalists at the annual Gridiron Dinner.
With various urgencies swirling about him, Saturday’s weekly
videotaped presidential address focusing on “Women’s History Month”
seemed bizarrely out of touch.
Obama Friday took time out to honor the 2009-10 Stanley Cup
Champion Chicago Blackhawks. Thursday was a White House conference
on bullying – not a bad idea perhaps, but not quite Leader of the
Free World stuff either.
Obama appeared a little sleepy as he weighed in against the
bullies, perhaps because he’d spent the night before partying with
lawmakers as they took in a Chicago Bulls vs. Charlotte Bobcats
game.
Meanwhile, the president has been studying for weeks whether to
establish a No Fly Zone over Libya, delaying action while the point
becomes increasingly moot as Qaddafi begins to defeat and slaughter
his opponents. And lawmakers from both Parties are wondering why he
seems to be AWOL in the deficit reduction debate.
The Libya indecision follows an inconsistent response to the
protests that ousted former Egyptian President Mubarak and seemed
to catch the White House off guard. The perfunctory response from
the White House Monday to Saudi Arabia’s dispatch of troops to
Bahrain suggested the administration wasn’t prepared for that one
either.
But the fun stuff won’t end anytime soon. On Thursday, the
Taoiseach of Ireland will be in town to help the president
celebrate St. Patrick’s Day. And then Friday it’s off to Brazil for
the start of a three-country Latin American tour.
Oddly, he’ll be missing Carnival, which went down last week.
Pelligrino| 3.15.11 @ 7:29PM
Mr. N. Conquest, thank you for keeping us abreast of the
president's activities and whereabouts.
And for keeping track of his golf outtings. That stat alone is
beyond shameful.
I remember as a young teen reading deeply into a large, very
well put together poly sci/US government text on the daily
schedules and life of a president. It featured a 72-hour White
House schedule during Gerald Ford's occupancy.
Boy scouts, photos with a sports team that had won some
collegiate championship, some meeting with bird activists, and an
award for some culinary competition champion. Oh, such fun!! Those
things seemed to fill about 70% of the work day.
It all seemed so light and esoteric.
Granted, it does seem that the current POTUS is taking it to
another level. This is sick.
Wouldn't a real president be deep in hours of real reading on
the heavy, heavy issues of the day, making sure to speak with the
top experts, discussing, debating, AND preparing meticulously for
the next conference, visit, or G-__ (fill in whatever number you
choose) summit?
No wonder the military men who come to the White House think him
"detached." (I wish we could hear what they really think.)
Where's an integrity individual working now in the White House
ready to 'out' a POTUS who cannot be bothered with the tough duties
of the job?
And why doesn't a good US congressman use his time at the podium
to read to the nation exactly what and how POTUS spends his
time?
Meanwhile real Americans go without any job prospects and face
declining job prospects, while natural energy sources go untapped,
while municipalities everywhere are broke, and while the black
American father becomes non existant.
In this regard, it cannot be underscored too often that the
upheavals across North Africa and the Middle East are occurring
with practically no reference to the Arab-Israel dispute. Poisoned
by the anti-Semitism of their leaders, the litmus test of
liberalization in these countries will be the attitudes adopted
toward http://www.watch07.com Israel when things quiet down
and new people take charge -- and toward the U.S.
Paige Smith| 3.23.11 @ 1:24AM
I have to admit that I was pleased with the French air strikes
on Saturday morning, which came just in time to rescue the
rebellion against Khadafi. Now I'm not so sure - romantic notions
aside, this is too much like our interventions in Iraq and
Afghanistan, which I opposed for different reasons. http://gripperclippers.org/
I doubt that. France is willing to pass a "no fly" zone,
provided the USA backs it up with their hardware. SAS and Foreign
Legion? Forget it. Screamin' Eagles, some SF groups, or some other
assault group is more likely to be the case. The US is putting on a
brave face, but underneath its forces are hallowed out from 10
years of war.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 3.15.11 @ 6:44AM
And in a twist of fate and irony Gaddafi could have said the same thing of Obama, ""it is in the interests of the United States, and more importantly in the interests of the American people, that Mr. Obama leave…"
Tim the Enchanter| 3.15.11 @ 12:20PM
I wish Someone, Somewhere would say that!
Alan Brooks| 3.15.11 @ 10:44PM
So you can elect another Bush?
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 3.16.11 @ 5:47AM
We won't be electing another Obama.
Pelligrino| 3.15.11 @ 8:34AM
I will recount here what is making its rounds in the webosphere as a workable solution to the Libyan Colonel (the guy who never could manage that next promotion)
The scheme:
The US really bungles and manages to let one of its armed (with precision bombs and other munitions) US Air Force fighter-bombers get stolen by some rebel Libyan fighter jet jockey.
Inside the aircraft just happens to be up-to-the-minute intelligence on the colonel's wherebouts.
Knowing what to do, this Libyan pilot makes the successful bombing run and lands the aircraft. Shortly thereafter the US military seize the fighter-bomber AND this renegade pilot.
With much fanfare, the Libyan pilot is spirited away to the US for a fake trial in which the judge finds the man medically incapable to stand trial or face any imprisonment.
In a truly humanitarian gesture (and due to doctors certifying that this pilot only has months left to live in his life), the US flies the Libyan renegade home to be reunited with family and friends for his "final days."
Poetic justice indeed.
Louis Jenkins| 3.15.11 @ 8:47AM
"One almost expected to see Foreign Legionnaires, backed by British S.A.S. teams, jumping on Tripoli."
I doubt that. France is willing to pass a "no fly" zone, provided the USA backs it up with their hardware. SAS and Foreign Legion? Forget it. Screamin' Eagles, some SF groups, or some other assault group is more likely to be the case. The US is putting on a brave face, but underneath its forces are hallowed out from 10 years of war.
Tim the Enchanter| 3.15.11 @ 12:22PM
Louis... I saw this in one of your other posts as well- do you really mean "hallowed", as something praiseworthy, or "hollow", as in something empty on the inside?
Norman Conquest| 3.15.11 @ 2:29PM
The Middle East is afire with rebellion, Japan is imploding from an earthquake, and the battle of the budget is on in the United States, but none of this seems to be deterring President Obama from a heavy schedule of childish distractions.
The newly installed tandem of White House Chief of Staff William Daley and Senior Adviser David Plouffe were supposed to impart a new sense of discipline and purpose to the White House. Instead, they are permitting him to showcase himself as a poorly focused leader who has his priorities backward.
This morning, as Japan’s nuclear crisis enters a potentially catastrophic phase, we are told that Obama is videotaping his NCAA tournament picks and that we’ll be able to tune into ESPN Wednesday to find out who he likes.
Saturday, he made his 61st outing to the golf course as president, and got back to the White House with just enough time for a quick shower before heading out to party with Washington’s elite journalists at the annual Gridiron Dinner.
With various urgencies swirling about him, Saturday’s weekly videotaped presidential address focusing on “Women’s History Month” seemed bizarrely out of touch.
Obama Friday took time out to honor the 2009-10 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks. Thursday was a White House conference on bullying – not a bad idea perhaps, but not quite Leader of the Free World stuff either.
Obama appeared a little sleepy as he weighed in against the bullies, perhaps because he’d spent the night before partying with lawmakers as they took in a Chicago Bulls vs. Charlotte Bobcats game.
Meanwhile, the president has been studying for weeks whether to establish a No Fly Zone over Libya, delaying action while the point becomes increasingly moot as Qaddafi begins to defeat and slaughter his opponents. And lawmakers from both Parties are wondering why he seems to be AWOL in the deficit reduction debate.
The Libya indecision follows an inconsistent response to the protests that ousted former Egyptian President Mubarak and seemed to catch the White House off guard. The perfunctory response from the White House Monday to Saudi Arabia’s dispatch of troops to Bahrain suggested the administration wasn’t prepared for that one either.
But the fun stuff won’t end anytime soon. On Thursday, the Taoiseach of Ireland will be in town to help the president celebrate St. Patrick’s Day. And then Friday it’s off to Brazil for the start of a three-country Latin American tour.
Oddly, he’ll be missing Carnival, which went down last week.
Pelligrino| 3.15.11 @ 7:29PM
Mr. N. Conquest, thank you for keeping us abreast of the president's activities and whereabouts.
And for keeping track of his golf outtings. That stat alone is beyond shameful.
I remember as a young teen reading deeply into a large, very well put together poly sci/US government text on the daily schedules and life of a president. It featured a 72-hour White House schedule during Gerald Ford's occupancy.
Boy scouts, photos with a sports team that had won some collegiate championship, some meeting with bird activists, and an award for some culinary competition champion. Oh, such fun!! Those things seemed to fill about 70% of the work day.
It all seemed so light and esoteric.
Granted, it does seem that the current POTUS is taking it to another level. This is sick.
Wouldn't a real president be deep in hours of real reading on the heavy, heavy issues of the day, making sure to speak with the top experts, discussing, debating, AND preparing meticulously for the next conference, visit, or G-__ (fill in whatever number you choose) summit?
No wonder the military men who come to the White House think him "detached." (I wish we could hear what they really think.)
Where's an integrity individual working now in the White House ready to 'out' a POTUS who cannot be bothered with the tough duties of the job?
And why doesn't a good US congressman use his time at the podium to read to the nation exactly what and how POTUS spends his time?
Meanwhile real Americans go without any job prospects and face declining job prospects, while natural energy sources go untapped, while municipalities everywhere are broke, and while the black American father becomes non existant.
watches| 3.16.11 @ 4:46AM
In this regard, it cannot be underscored too often that the upheavals across North Africa and the Middle East are occurring with practically no reference to the Arab-Israel dispute. Poisoned by the anti-Semitism of their leaders, the litmus test of liberalization in these countries will be the attitudes adopted toward http://www.watch07.com Israel when things quiet down and new people take charge -- and toward the U.S.
Paige Smith| 3.23.11 @ 1:24AM
I have to admit that I was pleased with the French air strikes on Saturday morning, which came just in time to rescue the rebellion against Khadafi. Now I'm not so sure - romantic notions aside, this is too much like our interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan, which I opposed for different reasons.
http://gripperclippers.org/
weddingdress| 7.5.11 @ 4:34AM
I doubt that. France is willing to pass a "no fly" zone, provided the USA backs it up with their hardware. SAS and Foreign Legion? Forget it. Screamin' Eagles, some SF groups, or some other assault group is more likely to be the case. The US is putting on a brave face, but underneath its forces are hallowed out from 10 years of war.
Creative Recreation| 8.11.11 @ 12:23AM
is good