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Halfway to Hell

In Itamar, a bloody act of random cruelty, during the happiest season of the Jewish calendar.

This column about the murdered Fogel family was written a few times on other surfaces before I put it to paper. First I etched it into my heart with a scalpel, then I inscribed it on the sacred parchment of Jewish history with a quill; finally, I spray painted it onto the bulletin board of the human race in a jagged graffito. After all this, I thought that maybe, just maybe, I could be lucid enough to share it with my friends through the printed page.

There are two small communities in Israel, Elazar and Itamar, named after the two surviving sons of Aaron. Their two brothers died shockingly to disturb a happy period for the Israelites, not long after the Exodus. The tradition teaches that there was a divine decree for all the children of Aaron to die, but Moses prayed and succeeded in saving half of them. Now, 3300 years later, the tableau is repeated in the town of Itamar.

Six children live at home in the same family, brutal killers invaded their home, yet half the children survived. One kid was sleeping on a couch instead of a bed, the two-year-old was curled in a small ball on his bed, and probably escaped notice. The 12-year-old sister stayed out late in a Sabbath youth group; parents in Israel are astoundingly tolerant of these wholesome gatherings and suspend their usual curfews.

So a heartless, soulless, gutless murder of a sleeping family only got the parents and half the children, including a three-month-old baby. That is the good news. All the rest is hellish tragedy, atrocity, inhumanity. Hamas announced that although they did not send the killer, they applauded his handiwork. Those peace-loving Palestinians strike again!

THIS IS THE HAPPIEST SEASON of the Jewish calendar. The holiday of Purim, celebrating the heroism of Queen Esther saving her people from the Persians 2300 years ago, will be observed next week. It is a day of goofy costumes and comedy, eating and drinking, a giddy time of hope. School plays are being performed in advance of the holiday, so little glittery crown-wearing boys and girls are skipping up the steps of school buses all over Israel.

Against this backdrop comes a bloody act of random cruelty. Climbing into a peaceful suburban home to slash the throats of its sleeping inhabitants; now there's a political statement. What does that tell the world about the culture of the people who can perpetrate such acts -- not as isolated instances of twisted menace but as publicly celebrated expressions of a national spirit?

Yes, you heard that right. Gaza residents hit the streets to express their jubilance, handing out candy and sweets in honor of the occasion. We have our murderers, too, but we chase them into their dark dens and confine them in cages.

Can someone reasonably argue that a peace treaty negotiated by some people in suits is going to pacify a culture that throws a party to honor the murder of a three-month-old child?

Well, perhaps I have not becalmed myself into lucidity after all. I am enraged, offended, provoked into a state of war. I reject the notion of statehood for the bloodthirsty, legitimacy for the ruthless. Ruthless is an appropriate word here; the woman they killed with three of her offspring was Ruth Fogel. Fogel is a bird, so Ruth Fogel means Bird-of-Peace. It does not take a genius to get the message of slashing the bird of peace.

You and I love the image of the bird soaring high and free; we love peace so much we are willing to overlook all sorts of slights and affronts and irritations and provocations. We want so much to impute good will and good faith to all of mankind, to men and woman of every race and religion. But we cannot close our eyes to evil, to raw predatory evil, to naked evil wielding its scythe of destruction against all that is gentle and kindly and innocent.

I want so much to join my children and grandchildren in their Purim playlets, to get into the mood of the time. One more time the brutes have stolen the light right out of my eyes. Thank God they could not get it all; prayer has saved half of our goodness from the blade. Let us treasure what remains.

About the Author

Jay D. Homnick, commentator and humorist, is a frequent contributor to The American Spectator. He also writes for Human EventsHere he performs his original composition, "Buy You (Bayou) a Drink".

Letter to the Editor View all comments (84) | Leave a comment

Darin| 3.15.11 @ 6:40AM

The religion of peace - killing babies in their sleep.
No stretch of logic can define this as anything but evil.

Tomas| 3.15.11 @ 3:26PM

I want to see the Muslim-American people publicly repudiate this behavior. I want to see them write letters to newspapers, go on the radio, on TV, on the internet.... tell us how horrible this is and how you do not support it in any way.

Until you do this, I will never believe you abhor this violence.

Speak up.

This is not a request.....

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sablegsd| 3.16.11 @ 1:04AM

The silence says it all.
Not that we didn't already know. There is no such thing as a moderate muslim. They are the spawn of the devil and anyone that supports them is doing satans work.

Oldgoat1940| 3.17.11 @ 11:11AM

As a theologian and historian, I am totally convinced that Allah is really the Devil himself who impersonated Gabriel when he appeared to Muhammed in the cave--after all, his followers do what Jesus said about the thief coming only to kill, steal and destroy. That's what true Muslim believers do best!

Herb| 3.15.11 @ 6:59AM

The delegitimation of Israel's right to exist, abetted by so-called civilized societies, has taken on a new and abominable form: Palestinians celebrating the murder of innocents (oh - pardonnez-moi - only Muslims are innocent) no longer astonishes nor horrifies nor brings down condemnation from the `civilized societies'. But... if the world now hates Israel totally, let them retaliate totally. Taking out several thousand candy-eaters in Gaza might be a good start; they behave like moral savages and no longer merit civilized treatment.

Teaghan| 3.15.11 @ 10:12AM

....abetted by obama and his henchmen.
The word "evil" doesn't cover this. Has the abetter in chief said anything publicly about this or is he playing golf again. This bastard is clueless.

ImaMommy| 3.15.11 @ 11:30AM

They danced in the streets in Paterson, NJ after 9/11, passing out candy and burning the American Flag. Never made the news and this was on American soil. Wake up U.S. of A... stop them or we're next.

Appleby| 3.15.11 @ 7:07AM

The more they get away with, the more they will do.

Stop them.

mommy2two| 3.15.11 @ 11:25AM

Give an inch, they take a mile. It applies to every, single thing in life; personal, professional and political. Stop them.

JP| 3.15.11 @ 7:34AM

This is the modus operandi of the Islamo-fascists. Terror is all they know. And I'm sure our State Department sent a few very quiet communications to Tel Aviv warning Isreal to not seek vengence. The MSM remains quiet, and the President plays golf. And Isrealis continue to suffer.

This much is true. The Mossad will conduct a very quiet thourough investigation; it will compile a list of the names and organizations of the people who committed this act, and the Mossad will take them out.

And then it will start all over again.

FTM| 3.16.11 @ 12:09AM

I wouldn't worry about revenge too much. The Mossad makes people have car wrecks and fall down the basement steps and slip in the bath tub all the time. They'll be working overtime on this little episode. This collection of savages has earned the full treatment too.

Richard Baker| 3.15.11 @ 8:09AM

Religion of Peace? Really? Islam is a murder cult not unlike the 1830s Thuggees in India and the Koran is the guidebook to depravity.

Pelligrino| 3.15.11 @ 8:14AM

While we are at the discussion of $350 million in the FY2011 budget for Planned Parenthood, would someone please illuminate the dollar figure being sent by US taxpayers to Palestinians this FY?

No more.

All my life I have read of these scenarios. Yes, they are but stories in newsclippings for me. But they are real. And real lives snuffed out by evildoers.

Time to end the farce of supporting Palestinians. Time to shout them down and call them evil, undeserving of the many blessings repeatedly bestowed upon them.

Sara Burke| 3.15.11 @ 8:29AM

Jay...thanks for this beautiful essay on a sweet family that I can't get out of my mind since last week's Sabbath. I was visiting Israel two years ago during Purim and have many pictures of the festively costumed children, parents and even dogs. Many were carrying baskets of goodies to friends and neighbors. It breaks my heart to see innocence shattered in cold blood. Yet as you point out we see a glimpse of God peek through the brutality as a remnant remains. The escalation of evil gives me hope that Light will shine even brighter.

TennesseeVolunteer| 3.15.11 @ 8:36AM

I made myself look at the pictures of the murdered family in order to cement in my soul the true evil of a supposed religion that wishes harm on good people of all other faiths, particularly the Israelis.
We will never forsake Israel.

Sara Burke| 3.15.11 @ 8:54AM

Everyone should look at those pictures. It will change you forever.

cuban pete| 3.15.11 @ 9:09AM

Israel and the Jewish people are always on my prayer list.
I will pray especially for the Fogel family during this Lenten season.

Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 10:01AM

Thank you so much, Pete. What a kind and sweet thought.

RCV| 3.15.11 @ 2:35PM

Amen.

Sandra| 3.15.11 @ 9:26AM

Are we REALLY sure that we all worship the same G-d of the Book? Really?

It really does seem (to me) that the G-d of Abraham, Jacob, and Issac; the G-d of John the Baptist, and Jesus, may not be one and the same with theirs

Pelligrino| 3.15.11 @ 9:47AM

Sandra, I am sure that you are just pondering aloud (in written words), but there is just one God Almighty.

Whatever Islam claims and Muslims say, it is not a religion, a faith. Islam = evil. It is Satan's handiwork every day. They belong to him.

There is nothing that stands equal to the God of the Bible. Just look again at what God gives Moses (gives all of us) in the Ten Commandments.

John Navratil| 3.15.11 @ 11:03AM

Pelligrino,

I agree with you. Perhaps Sandra's question should have been "Do Muslims worship God or something else?" We know what they claim, but was it really Gabriel who had Mohammed's ear?

Bill Croke| 3.15.11 @ 9:35AM

Great one, Jay.

Brian Mc| 3.15.11 @ 9:46AM

I stand by my post of yesterday. A database listing of mosques with the top positions held by the most militant. A bombing here, a stabbing there-a mosque is vaporized from the face of the earth...oops, sorry!

VBMax| 3.15.11 @ 10:42AM

I haven't felt this sad about an event and its aftermath in quite a long time. I'm not suprised at the viciousness and cruelty of the Palestinians. A while back one of them intentionally blew himself up standing next to a baby carriage. And they celebrated that event as well.
What truly saddens me is the response of what passes for western "civilization" in the 21st century. It continues on its path to oblivion undeterred by the evil that is pushing it there. And it will arrive if not enough of us do something effective to stop it. I'm talking about our lives, our families and friends, our country and our civilization. I'm afraid that commenting on blogs and voting will not be enough although unloading the current government would be a good start.
These murders are a microcosm of what threatens all of us if we don't stop this evil in its tracks. I'm the son of a holocaust survivor (Auschwitz) so I got the lesson straight from the horse's mouth. And I'm preparing myself for this battle, whatever it takes.

glenny| 3.15.11 @ 10:53AM

I sometimes imagine what it would be like to lend-lease to Israel, a 4 pack of B-52s, fully loaded bomb racks, topped off fuel loads (1st load is included), etc etc etc. Say, $1/day/B-52. Destination = Gaza, maybe Damascus. Yeeeaaahhh ! glenny

Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 1:27PM

Actually, just have their backs. That's all that is required.

David W| 3.15.11 @ 11:32AM

I posted a quick rememberance to my facebook page (as well as a longer note concerning the cult of death that the Palestinians under Islam have become). If I were in Congress I would introduce a bill that would cut off all humanitarian aid to the PLA and the Palestinian people. After all, humanitarian aid should go to humans. And the Palestinians are not human. Sure, there may be some who were shocked and saddened, but they are few and far between. The rest have been bred to hate and to destroy and to kill - what little civilization they have will be gone soon.

The Palestinians use "occupation" as their excuse to target Jews/Israelis. Cannot Israel use "murder" and "self-defense" as their excuse to remove the thorn in their side?

Claudia Monteverdi| 3.15.11 @ 11:44AM

Dear Jay,
Your worrds should be writ intaglio on a block of cold granite and placed ontothe peazzas of the great cities of our civilistion. utterly magnificent expression of fact and feeling, which, I trust,we all share.
Pity the New York Times Front Page siezed upon it for another one of their infamous "we hate Israel, we love our arabs" fabrications.."illegal settlers attacked, casualties reported"--Hillary? "both sides should show restraint" O'bama? who's he? Oh yeah, another round of golf, a niice weekend in the country and "my prayers for the people of Japan and the loved ones of those attacked" (in occupied trans-Jordan?)..
Thanks Jay,
Claudia

Conservative Bob| 3.15.11 @ 12:24PM

What kind of person can with their bare hands do this to an 3 month old baby, let alone the other children.

To give another dime to a people who would celebrate such monstrosity is to stain us with the blood of these innocents.

Over and again we are told that this is just a small extremist faction of the ‘religion of peace’ I will believe that these horrendous acts are not emblematic of the entire religion when I read that outraged Muslims stoned to death the both the killer/killers and those that celebrated this unspeakable act because of the shame it brings to Islam.

John| 3.15.11 @ 12:32PM

Zionism is based on a racist ideology . They have murdered and ethnically Palestinian each day for the sixty plus years . The crimes of the Zionist settlers has no end. This criminality extends to all there supports. I condem the murder of the innocent. But it should not blind us to the crimes of zionists. the days for the apartheid entity are numbered. If they had any sense they should make peace with the palestianians and reabsorb six million plus Palestinian refugees. They can do it willingly to day . For tomorrow they may not get a chance. May God bless the palestians. There is no greater people on the earth. The crimes of the zionists is this crime times 10 million plus.

Conservative Bob| 3.15.11 @ 1:01PM

Condemnation with a 'but' is all we ever hear from apologists for the murderous Palestinians.

“No greater people on earth…“, that celebrate the slaughter of innocent children and babies?

No one, no people anywhere that celebrate the death and slaughter of innocents deserves the any consideration from the civilized world.

They deserve our scorn and condemnation, and the complete withdrawal of all material support. Let them eat sand!

John Navratil| 3.15.11 @ 1:04PM

Conservative Bob,

Standby for more evasions, dogma, non sequitors and other B.S from the gift of God. Please do not feed the troll.

Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 1:28PM

John.
You. Are. A. Supporter. Of. Chil. Rape. And. Murder. Maggot.

Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 1:32PM

John,

this is in response to the murder of a 3 month old. Only you could congratulate their killers. You are a piece of dog excrement, a filthy supporter of child rape and murder, a moral maggot. No further comments from you regarding this child are required, you excrement eating maggot.

John Navratil| 3.15.11 @ 1:59PM

Occam's Tool,

"Never try and teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig."

-- Robert Heinlein

This pig is best ignored.

Dave Williams| 3.15.11 @ 2:00PM

You, sir, are a completely disgusting walking moral obscenity, and the sooner you emulate your evident heroes by blowing yourself up, the better the world would be.

RCV| 3.15.11 @ 2:57PM

John: You need to learn some history as well as some humanity. Zionism is simply based on the yearning of the Jewish people to live in peace in their historic home. This could have been possible, as King Abdullah of Jordan and others recognized. Let's review the historical record for just one moment: Jews had lived in the Holy Land for millenia. By 1875, they were a majority of Jerusalem's population and had sizeable population centers elsewhere in Palestine. After the break-up of the Ottoman Empire and the aftermath of World War I, Britain was given trusteeship over the territory of Palestine by the League of Nations for the express purpose of "creating a national homeland for the Jewish people" there. This could have been done in consonance with respect for the existing rights of both the Arabs who lived in the area AND the tens of thousands of Arabs who flooded into the region to take advantage of the growing economic activity resulting from Jewish immigration. The British even took 2/3 of the Palestine Mandate given them, and set up a Palestinian Arab state they called "TransJordan", placing the sone of the former Sharif of Mecca on its throne. Then the British abandoned their commitment to set up a Jewish homeland in the remaining one-third. The United Nations carefully proposed carving what remained of the little left of Palestine into yet another Palestinian Arab state and a much smaller Jewish state. But the Arabs rejected this proposal, attacked the new Jewish state, and when the dust settled after the Arab defeat, two Arab countries -- Egypt and Jordan -- seized what should have been the new Arab Palestine and annexed it to their countries. What did the Palestinian Arabs do then? The Palestinian National Assembly voted overwhelmingly to be incorporated into Jordan, which they correctly proclaimed to be Arab Palestine. That state destroyed the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, banned Jews from their holy sites, and desecrated the synagogues and Jewish holy sites in their control. When the Jews recaptured the Old City after the 1967 war, what did they do? They immediately returned control over Al Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock to the Islamic Waqf.

It's not a pretty history from the Islamic side. Incorporation of the Arabs into Israel proper would mean the death of the Jewish state, not to mention the physical annihilation of hundreds of thousands of Jewish families just like the Fogels. That is just not going to happen. Never. The Palestinian Arabs may be a great people, but they have been ill-served by their leaders and the leaders of their fellow Arab states. They have, as Churchill famously said, "never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity" for peace and reconcilliation.

W| 3.15.11 @ 4:05PM

We are wasting time attempting to reason with johnny. He pretends to be a foreign muslim with his bad english and grammar. He is here only to provoke,insult, and stir hate, much like his friends murdering babies. johny and his friends do not have the courage to fight because they get beat every time they attack Israel. So they attack babies and a civilian in a wheelchair on a cruise ship. Johny doesn't even have the courage to write without pretending to be a muslim.
one question johnny, why is it that all the arab muslim countries refuse to allow the palestinians in their countries, for example, Jordan kicked them out of Jordan years ago. You don't really care for the palestinians, you like them only as a symbol to attack Israel.

Doctor Right| 3.15.11 @ 4:43PM

"I condemn the murder of the innocent. But..."

We all knew there was a "but" coming, didn't we?

Genesis 16:12: "He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

That's God describing the sons of Ishmael.

Sounds like the Palestinians to me.

Tim the Enchanter| 3.15.11 @ 5:38PM

Sounds like ALL Arab nations!

Lawrence Cannon| 3.15.11 @ 11:38PM

"Palestine" was created by the Romans after they ethnically cleansed the Holy Land of Jews after the revolt of Bar Kochba in 135 A.D. "Palestine" was the latin version of the term "Philistines", in order to humiliate the Hebrew people. Until the early 20th Century, the land now called Israel was a sparsely populated craphole, a backwater of the Ottoman Empire. When the Jewish people started coming back, they performed miracles on the land.

No, the "Palestinians" aren't a people. They're Egyptians or Jordanians who rooted for the wrong armies during the Israeli war of Independence of 1948.

Jeremiah| 3.16.11 @ 6:00PM

John, I used to believe Islam to be one of the three great monotheistic religions. I now understand it for the satanic death cult it is. If I were in charge, I would recognize Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Palestinians for the rabid dogs they are - and encourage Israel to rid the world of rabid dogs. Fortunately, your brutality has not made me quite as savage as you. I would spare the children.

Doctor Right| 3.15.11 @ 12:40PM

I wish we had a President who would boldly say to the Israelis:

"Do whatever you need to do to secure your borders. You have the full, open support of my administration."

Within a week, the Arab/Muslim governments would be begging for peace.

Occam's Tool| 3.15.11 @ 1:29PM

I wish you were President, Doctor.

Sara Burke| 3.15.11 @ 2:17PM

He won't even allow us to secure our own borders.

Tim the Enchanter| 3.15.11 @ 12:54PM

Jay: IIRC that Purim ("Lots" or "chance") came into being when the Israelites were living in Persia after the fall of the Babylonian Empire. I also remember it was Haman (or however he spelt his name), an Amelekite, who tricked the Persians into attempting to destroy Israel. Considering that the present-day Iranians are descendants of the Persians, isn't it nice that things have changed so much since then (not)?

OLD RAY| 3.15.11 @ 1:00PM

A fine article. The Palestinians behave like monsters (not animals. Animals behave far better,) So they behaved when they tried to take over Jordan and were kicked out. So they behaved in South Lebanon and were saved and transported to Tunisia ,then moved into the "West Bank" of Israel by "Oslo". So they behaved when the USA was attacked on 9-11.. Israel would be insane to allow a Palestinian State in Judea and Samaria (Yes that is the historic proper name ffor the area - check ANY encyclopedia published before 1967 in your library.) The anti-semitic US State department is responsible for much of the trouble in "The Holy Land".

John| 3.15.11 @ 1:52PM

It's the palestionos who are murdered and killed in very large numbers each day. Their crime is being Arab , Christian. Or Muslim . This is the only truth that the zionist trolls on this website don't want you to know. Instead they want to misdirect people with their racism against arab and muslim people . they show crocodile tears to hide their hate. The palestinions are an entire nation imprisioned by zionists. this is an apartheid ideology whose days are numbered. I support a single state for all Jews Muslims Christions with equall rights . The comments here are not suprising since many descend from slave owners in the recent past. Racism comes easly from such people. The American people are learning the truth . The palestinions are angles on the earth. God bless them.

David V| 3.15.11 @ 4:32PM

Learn to spell you moron.

Doctor Right| 3.15.11 @ 4:45PM

Angles, eh?

Makes sense to me; Palestinian logic is obtuse, and they're an acute pain-in-the-ass.

Richard Baker| 3.15.11 @ 2:06PM

John:
Palestinian=fiction. The present day bearers of that phony name are Jordanian. They were thrown out when they tried to kill King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah's Father, and he and the Jordanian Army killed approximately 30K of them in so doing. Look up Black September, bozo.

Sam Levi| 3.15.11 @ 2:32PM

John,
Your ignorance, stupidity, blatant racism, and revisionism know no bounds. You throw out accusations with no proof. You allegedly decry violence yet celebrate it with the other half of every statement. Let me explain it so that even a totally intellectualy deficient such as yourself can understand. There is no actual race of Palestinian. Palestinians as they are called today are illegal immigrants, fanatics, and terrorists. In short, they are criminals. Israel belongs to the Jewish people, get over it. You and your kind have been trying to steal it for over 60 years. The Jews took a barren wasteland suitable only for an outdoor toilet and turned it into a beautiful and productive country. The "palestinians" can't stand that so want to steal and destroy what the cannot or will not do for yourselves. You are just like the other pieces of dog excrement that says anytime we don't like something an Islamist has done we are racist. Guess what, we hear that same crap when we decry your boy in our oval office. The only way to make peace with Islam is to erradicate your disgusting religion.

John| 3.15.11 @ 2:52PM

Wow! The truth really rattles you. Good. Palestinians are recognised by virtually all states including USA . Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. if you want to support apartheid based on fairy tales from two thousand years ago- good for you. Isreal still has a chance to save itself by supporting the right of return of palestinian refugees. many Jews in isreal have also come to this conclusion. Your Muslim hatred will get you nowhere. your lies and fairy tales will get you nowhere.

Dc| 3.15.11 @ 3:11PM

John (aka, pig-shit), dog's feet, or whatever other unpleasant things civilized folk can rightfully call you sandsucking worshippers of a 7th century brigand and child-molester:
Name one time that an Israeli soldier has knowingly murdered a "Palestinian" (see above, I don't need to elaborate on that fraud) toddler in his/her sleep?
Name one time that the Jewish people have bounced around in the streets shrieking like hyenas, celebrating the murder of innocent babies?
Name one time that I as an American, non-Jew, will ever look on anyone of your "faith" again without utter contempt, secure in the knowledge that you will either kill my children, or I'll kill yours, and there's no middle ground anymore (if there ever was--which I doubt).
Keep apologizing for the scum your "people" (vermin, actually) consider their heroes for murdering children, see how far that gets you outside of the treasonous sympathizers temporarily occupying the White House.
Someday soon, real God-willing, an Israeli or U.S. leader is going to get serious, turn entire regions of the world into a radioactive sea of glass, and purge insects like you from both nations.

Doctor Right| 3.15.11 @ 5:32PM

Hey "John" (or Mustafa, or Maliq, or whatever your name is)...I have a question for you:

How does it feel to be a pawn of the radical Muslims?

These people have been using and abusing the "noble" Palestinians since 1948. They don't care about the Palestinians; they simply want the leverage to use against the Israelis.

Did you ever ask yourself WHY they won't take your "people" in, and let you settle in their countries? I mean, you are fellow Arabs, right?

I laugh whenever I hear the term "Palestinian refugees"! What kind of people are STILL "refugees" after 60 years???

The Palestinians are a cowardly bunch. They have reaped what they have sown.

You will NEVER get back Israel. "Return" is a fantasy.

Lawrence Cannon| 3.15.11 @ 11:47PM

I agree that the Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs living in Israel have the right to return to their native lands....Saudi Arabia, where they can live under the benevolent protection of their Muslim brothers.

wolf t.| 3.15.11 @ 3:01PM

The only true response is for the IDF to ignore arab civilians casualties in any future response to kassams and such.

Should the world complain then ask: where was your condemnation for the past murders of Jewish children? Begone: you have no moral standing here!

wolf t.| 3.15.11 @ 3:04PM

To John who can't wait to see Israel destroyed:

It won't happen in your lifetime. May you live to bury your children and grandchildren.

Seek| 3.15.11 @ 3:18PM

If a Jew had murdered an Arab family, you can be sure the incident would be roundly denounced by "world opinion" (i.e., anti-Semites). But since Jews are the victims here, the murderers, as members of an ostensibly oppressed people, somehow have "understandable" grievances.

By the way, the killing of an entire family on grounds of Jewish (and, falsely, Communist) already has happened in this country, yes, America. Research the mid-1980s murder of the Goldmark family in Seattle by an unemployed drifter.

John| 3.15.11 @ 3:47PM

Isreal has the most powerful army in the ME courtesy of uncle Sam. The Palestinians have nothing. No army, navy....but they have truth on their side an indefatigable belief that they will overcome. bullies at some point overextend themselves. Isreal has reached that point. The continued settlements in the west bank by setller Zino Nazis is a sign of this. the palestinons will prevail. Don't underestimate their patience. and also keep your insults to yourself. Peace.

Ken (Old Texican)| 3.15.11 @ 4:05PM

NO JOHN!
WAR!
War to the knife!
War to the 'Day Of The Lord'!

...when you evil bastards are erased from the earth.

John| 3.15.11 @ 6:09PM

Calm down ken. Take a deep breath and relax. It is not evil to ask for equal rights . It is not evil to ask for an end to apartheid and ethnic cleansing. It is not evil to ask that christain, Muslim, Jews to live together as brothers in the holy land. But then again zionists have an odd warped view of evil.

Doctor Right| 3.15.11 @ 7:03PM

You have equal rights.

There are Palestinians who are MPs in Israel's Knesset.

When a Palestinian says "equal rights", he means the destruction of Israel, and the slaughter of the Jews.

You're a liar.

RCV| 3.15.11 @ 11:38PM

There is no Arab country in which Jews have anything close to equal rights, or are treated even half as well as Arabs are in Israel. The only time that all three religions - Islam, Christianity, and Judaism - have been able to worship freely at their holy places in Jerusalem has been under Israeli rule.

Dc| 3.15.11 @ 4:33PM

Swine-crotch, the more you yammer nonsensically in support of Islamofascist babykillers (and demonstrate your illiteracy), the more you condemn dog-copulators like yourself and your filthy "religion" to mass death and ultimate defeat. Keep it up. And don't expect anyone (Israeli or American, Jew or otherwise) to keep his insults to himself. You and the vast, festering, despicable majority of your wretched, pig-sired kind should--in a sane world--be exterminated as vermin. If there are any decent adherents of the "religion of peace," maybe they'd survive, but they'd have to make a pretty strong case that I don't think is possible anymore. Go ahead, "John," come after us; keep counting on the insane patience of the Israelis with your murdering and celebrations of toddler-beheadings. Your luck will run out, and when it does, what's left of you and your filthy culture and "religion" will be buried, encased in pig fat, in unmarked graves underneath a sea of radioactive glass. God willing. Say hi to your toddler-stabbing buddies in hell.

John| 3.15.11 @ 6:20PM

The rights of the palestinions is enshrined in international law. America supports a two state solution. About 10% of Palestinians are christain. For Palestinians this is a struggle for national rights . palestnian are supported by millions of non Muslims. Why you keep dragging the Islamic faith into this is not clear. Is it because you believe in the false ideology of christain Zionism. A philosophy particularly racist towards Jews. the Muslims are a beautiful people. Discover for your self. Peace.

Seek| 3.15.11 @ 6:41PM

A sizable number of Israelis are Christian, too. And they enjoy full rights, far more so, in fact, than under Arab Muslim rule. So what? The point is that Israelis do not go about slitting the throats of innocent unarmed families. Nor do they celebrate such acts.

Arab Muslims, however, do both. And they have a long history of it. (Check out what happened that hot day in the streets of Hebron in 1929 or that day at an elementary school in Ma' alot in 1974). The lack of condemnation by Arabs over the Fogel murders is damning. But then, it could have been predicted.

JP| 3.15.11 @ 7:15PM

John,
The Palestinians have thier state; Isreal provides them with free electricity, free water, and the UN pours in more than $20 billion a year in aide. Yet, the average Palestinian wants out of thier own murderous corrupt society. The others, high off the blood of Jews and filled with hate want nothing more than slaughter. The Palestinians are a internationally subsidized group of killers.

BTW, the Palestinians are not in fact from Palestine. The majority of them are from Jordan and Egpyt.

glenny| 3.15.11 @ 5:49PM

John,
If the Palestinians give up their weapons, there will be peace.
If the Israelis give up their weapons, there will be genocide.
glenny

RCV| 3.15.11 @ 7:22PM

Exactly right!!

GENE HAUBER| 3.15.11 @ 5:00PM

Our political leaders, to a man or woman, are so deceived by the rhetoric of islam that it leads to mindless, animalistic atrocities like this perpetrated by whole societies of like-minded-less animals I.E. THE CELEBRATION IN GAZA.

I will NEVER believe that an adherent of islam is capable of any other kind of existence....AND , therefore should be treated in the same manner.
Their religion teaches them to kill all others.......we should use then, their religion, to defend against that by killing them whenever and wherever.....as a measure of survival.
NO REGRETS!!!

John| 3.15.11 @ 7:04PM

The west perfected the art of genocide murdering six million Jews. I see the genociders are still busy on this site. you're a disgrace .

JP| 3.15.11 @ 7:17PM

And you forget the 30 million Ukrainians murdered by Stalin, the 55 million murdered by Mau, and the 2 million murdered by Pol Pot. Oh yes, 3 million Armenians murdered by Turks, and 20,000 Palestinians murdered by Jordan....

GENE HAUBER| 3.15.11 @ 9:33PM

hey john..........i knew my post would upset muslims........so be it....NO REGRETS.
YOUR PEOPLE ARE A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY

Seek| 3.16.11 @ 11:21AM

Well, John, now that you've brought up the subject of Nazi atrocities...Are you aware that Hitler and the Islamic spiritual leader of Palestine Jerusalem -- i.e., "the Grand Mufti" -- were in fact close allies? Are you aware that in the early Forties they made a deal by which Muslims would kill any Jews trying to escape Europe by settling in the Palestine territory? Your love of the "Palestinians" is little more than a cover for resentment of victorious Jews (as opposed to dead ones).

GENE HAUBER| 3.15.11 @ 5:02PM

EVERY CITIZEN IN THE WORLD THAT HAS A BRAIN SHOULD CRY OUT FOR RETRIBUTION AGAINST THESE RABID PALESTINIANS AND THEIR CULTURE......WHATEVER THAT IS.

Nite| 3.15.11 @ 10:40PM

The Palestinians do have a homeland and that is Jordan (previously Palestine). However Jordan does not want them because they are trouble makers. Please don't tell me that Islam is a religion of peace. What real he men slip in through a window and kills parents and small children including a three year old and 3 months old baby. Then celebrates those murders in the streets just like they did the 3000 deaths in the US on 9/11. Please tell me why Obama is trying to force Israel to give up land for these butchers. Why is the US supporting these people. Israel is our friend in the region, not the Palestinians.

sablegsd| 3.16.11 @ 1:01AM

Every time I read this story I cry.
I am enraged these barbaric butchers are still breathing. I am furious that my tax money is given to these demons. I believe most Americans are horrified at this revelation of funding for muslim butchers.

Bulldoze their "town" and drive them over the river. Give them 1 hour to pack their knives and bombs or suffer the consequences.

When I think of that poor girl finding her family slaughtered, how hard it is going to be for her and her remaining siblings, words fail.

God bless her and all of Israel.

Charles Dennison| 3.16.11 @ 4:51AM

"but" but, but, but, but, but NOTHING!
There is no BUT! This EVIL is what it is! EVIL!!!
There is no excuse, there is no denial, there is NO ABSOLUTION!!!
Own up to it - and deal with the consequences!
Enough with all the crap! I don't want to hear another word from islam - not another word!!! The entire operation is EVIL! People, call it what it is - EVIL! ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wodiej| 3.16.11 @ 6:31AM

This is disgusting and evil. The American people need to be more aware of the responsibility we have as a God based country. These types of regimes we must always be fighting against. We need to quit electing these lightweight people to high office and get serious about our leaders who will have some courage. I haven't seen any for quite some time.

figusja| 3.16.11 @ 6:49AM

Then these animals complain when the Israeli's have high security check points. You can not argue with children. For they act like spoiled children. These animals should be treated in kind. God forgive me for saying it. When they fear reprisals they would not do half of the stupid things they do. When I say They I mean "MUSLIMS"! God bless the remaining family members of this travesty!

marilyn| 3.16.11 @ 1:40PM

Well said, Jay.

Creative Recreation| 8.11.11 @ 12:27AM

is good

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