In Gaddafi's view, violent rebellions are for faraway places.
But Sarkozy knows better.
You can view the Arab revolt globally or locally, with the
understanding that all politics is local and that you can act
locally while thinking globally. However, these days the one thing
we know about the United States government is that it can express
high minded global thoughts and locally it has no thoughts at
all.
According to the latest reports, both the rebels based in
Libya's major eastern city, Benghazi, and the regime of Col.
Moammar Gaddafi, trying to break out of its Tripoli bunkers and
seize the initiative, have sought, by diplomacy and attacks on oil
flows, to internationalize what very quickly became a civil war, or
perhaps more accurately -- we cannot be sure -- a war by the regime
against its own people. Gaddafi, who claims he is fighting al Qaeda
and who has placed a monetary reward on the head of the leader of
the Libyan National Council of Transition, may have been encouraged
by the tough stances taken by governments in Algeria and Yemen and
Bahrain; he may have real support among his own tribesmen and
others who benefited from the largesse made possible by Libya's
huge oil revenues; in any case, intifadas are for faraway
places.
In American political journalism the word intifada usually
is taken to refer to violent rebellions against Israel launched by
Palestinians, in 1987-1993 and 2001-2005. Depending on the
observer, these were repressed with too much, or insufficient,
force by Israel's army. Again depending on the observer, they were
eruptions of widespread frustration by Palestinians in the occupied
territories, or they were strategically organized by the
Palestinian leadership under Yassir Arafat to torpedo progress
toward a "two-state solution" to the Israel-Palestine
dispute.
What is not in dispute is that there have been no
Palestinian intifadas since Israel in fact if not by formal treaty
encouraged the Palestinians to work toward a state of their own.
Israel resists the idea of proclaiming an independent state under
the Palestinian Authority, successor to the PLO and governing
authority in the Palestinian areas of the West Bank, because it
wants in exchange an unambiguous proclamation by the Palestinians
of its own rights, beginning with its right to exist.
However, intifada, which means revolt, or uprising, and
the connotation of which is a sloughing off or discharging of an
oppressive burden, is not specific to the Palestinians. The Iraqi
charismatic Shiite anti-American leader, Moktar el-Sadr, referred
to his violent attacks on our troops, following the defeat of
Saddam Hussein, as an intifada; many observer agree that his
militias worked at the behest of Iran. Denouncing us as unwanted
occupiers, he exploited the widespread sentiment, also, that we
would not adequately promote Shiite security and interests against
the Sunni minority on which the Saddam regime was based (even as it
too, along with Shiites and Kurds, suffered under his tyrannical
rule).
Intifada had been used, as well, to describe movements in
Mesopotamia in the difficult transition period between the end of
British colonial control and the security-terrorist regimes that
befell the downtrodden peoples of Iraq and Syria, following weak
attempts at constitutional monarchy and comparatively benign
military-led systems.
The Sahrawis, who have been engaged in a long dispute with
the Moroccans over control of the ex-Spanish colony of Western
Sahara, described demonstrations in 2005 as an intifada; the term,
however, did not resurface when demonstrations, calling for civil
rights and brutally repressed, took place in November of last year
in La'ayoune, their principal city. Demonstrators in Kabylie, a
region in Algeria known for its recalcitrant, autonomist
tendencies, used the term democracy intifada during demonstrations
in 2000-01. The Cedar Revolution in Lebanon in 2005 was at first
called the independence intifada, a reference to the de-facto
control of Lebanon by Syria (blamed for the assassination of
President Rafi Hariri), as well as the insidious influence exerted
by Iran by way of its Hezbollah subsidiary.
The term democracy intifada, has been heard across North
Africa and the Middle East lately, though perhaps not as often as
words like change and democracy. What political principles, what
goals, are subsumed under these terms surely varies; whether they
represent appeals to Western governments or to modernizing elites
as well as ordinary people interested in jobs and dignity and the
end of arbitrary government, or both, is not known. However, a
delegation representing the Benghazi-based Libyan National Council
of Transition traveled to Paris this week to meet with President
Nicolas Sarkozy, who promptly recognized the LNC as the legitimate
Libyan government. Sarkozy has expressed support for enforcing a
no-fly zone to counter Gaddafi's air-power, which has been used
quite ruthlessly against the insurgents, as has been his superior
artillery. British P.M. David Cameron expressed support for a
no-fly zone as well; the European Union and the U.S. have been more
circumspect, while announcing that all options are "on the table."
The New York-based Council on Foreign Relations, widely believed to
represent the thinking on foreign policy of America's top bankers
and businessmen, said through its president Richard Haass that
Libya is not a good choice for American intervention.
Of the Arab countries in political upheaval, Libya might
be the first to see an intervention of foreign troops; the
ambivalence shown on all sides toward such a development is shown
by the contradictory statements flying in every direction. It goes
beyond the nervousness on the insurgent side, which came out when
it mistook a British political-military team sent to inquire about
what, if any, help was desired for a hostile spying
mission.
Gaddafi himself has not been passive on the diplomatic
front, sending emissaries to several European capitals. The
fighting continues, meanwhile, with pro- and anti-Gaddafi forces
trying to gain as much territory in advance of what both sides hint
will be a negotiated end-game.
In reality, no one knows what the end-game will be, here
or in any other country. This year's intifadas are far from over in
Tunisia and Egypt, where they began, and it is by no means clear
what kind of democracy, if any, will be attained. Violence or the
threat of violence appear to be behind the governments' offers, in
such widely different places as Yemen and Morocco, to work toward
substantial constitutional reforms. Saudi Arabia's government hints
at small incremental changes while using guns against
demonstrators.
In the view of Bernard Lewis, the most distinguished
historian of Islam in the English-speaking world, there are reasons
to believe in happy outcomes. These, he says, depend on keeping the
Muslim Brotherhoods out of power (notably in Egypt where they are
well-organized) and giving people time to develop habits of
democratic governance through the kinds of consultative assemblies,
starting at the local level, that in various forms were common in
the Arabo-Islamic world before the colonial period and the
tyrannical regimes that ensued.
In the short term, the battle for Libya will shape ideas
of what directions the upheavals in the Arab world may take, not
least among the Arabs themselves. The Libyan insurgents against the
dictator are adamant that they will not seek to divide the country.
But they were also adamant only a few days ago that they wanted no
outside interference, at most some humanitarian aid. Reportedly,
they asked for air support and weapons when they met with the
French president; it is not inconceivable that they should
eventually opt for a federal union of the country's three major
provinces of Tripolitania, Cyrenea, and Fezza, somewhat on the
model of the federal monarchy of Idris I that Gaddafi overthrew in
1969.
Federalism would, in fact, be closer to the consultative
governance of Arab tradition, evoked by Professor Lewis, than
anything the Arabs have known since before the colonial era.
Vigorous local government may be the way for people to learn, or
re-learn, habits of self-government which in turn lead to
constitutional regimes that are respected. It may be worth
recalling that before the French took over Tunisia in the 1880s,
the beys of Tunis (nominally under Ottoman authority but largely
independent) had developed a constitutional system that formally
separated mosque and state, which is one reason why the post-French
independent Tunisia of Habib Bourguiba was able to pursue reforms
in a liberal and modernizing direction (one that promoted women's
educational and professional, as well as political,
advancement).
However, Bourguiba did not go fast enough, or his reforms
only touched the Tunis elites, or there were other impediments. The
same sort of broad-brush generalization could be made of Libya, a
far more primitive country where the anti-Italian resistance was
fierce, courageous, and largely pro-liberal. And yet, the inheritor
of this resistance, Idris, who supported the Anglo-Americans during
World War II and kept their friendship in the years following,
could not prevent the regression represented by Gaddafi any more
than the ailing (and reportedly senile) Bourguiba could prevent the
regression represented by Zine Ben Ali.
Caught flat-footed in Tunisia, Nicolas Sarkozy may be
eager to show the Arabs that France stands behind the "intifada of
democracy"; he may also have the notion that if France averts its
eyes from a Libyan bloodbath, there will be hell to pay somewhere
down the road. He also knows that if France, or a Western coalition
of the willing, intervenes, there also will be hell to pay
somewhere down the road, if only in the form of a bill for the Arab
resentments which, in their twisted ways, have motivated so much in
Arab politics and political thinking.
Gadhafi will be dead before the year is up, perhaps killed by
one of his guards who will be bribed to do so.
Then it is off to that Great Camel Bazaar in the Sky.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.11.11 @ 9:45AM
I don't think it will take a bribe. Just sayin'. Maybe a guy who
believes in what is right, and is willing to die for it.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.11.11 @ 9:50AM
I would say a man close to him is more likely to NOT kill him
because of financial gain. I'm sure he pays them well.
But either way, it only takes one man of principle to get the
job done.
loulou| 3.11.11 @ 10:10AM
Really, do we need to insert ourselves into this Libyan problem?
We have enough on our plates. Let the French do it.
Alan Brooks| 3.11.11 @ 12:37PM
Oui oui.
But of course.
IMKessel| 3.11.11 @ 1:46PM
We would not need to depend on the less than dependable French
(military) if we had kept our military strength (i.e., if the U.S.
military were kept at Reagan era levels, the current challenges the
United States faces on the two war fronts would not be nearly as
problematic and we would not have to look to France to answer this
call of duty. Yes, and if a frog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his
ass.)
As for Libya itself, President Obama has been, as is his wont on
supporting the people’s uprising in the Middle East, been near
silent. He is abrogating his presidential and moral leadership
responsibilities. While the moral responsibility for the Libyan
people lies with the people of the region (e.g., The Arab League)
and those who have long established commercial interests in the
area, as you suggested, France (and Britain). But along with
France's air support, America can offer moral support. (President
Obama offering words of comfort, encouragement and solidarity cost
Americans nothing. Are we not a shining city on the hill? )
The U.S. through the U.N. (a corrupt and near useless
organization,) can take the political heat off France (or Britian)
policing Libya's air space. (The chance of Russia or China allowing
a U.N. intervention into Libya is extremely improbable, but if
President Obama called for such a vote, the region would pay
attention.) This call might even provide the necessary political
cover for another country, or preferably coalition, to take Gadaffi
out of the equation (and hopefully out of this world).
France may be part of the answer, but America has a vital
interest in the region. The least we can do is a little
cheerleading.
John| 3.11.11 @ 10:22AM
Gadhafi and his family are finished what ever happens to the
rebellion. it is always difficult to tell but these revolutions do
appear to represent a tectonic shift in Arab civilisation. They are
awakening. It may take a few more years or so . I suspect that
these countries will be more like turkey in a few decades. I woud
be surprised that once they have defeated theocracies such Saudi
that we choose another tyrannical regime of any other Colour.
America could help by removing support from the tyrannies, seizing
all arab assets invested in the west ( :every trillion dollar is
stolen) and returning it to the Arab people.
Alan Brooks| 3.11.11 @ 11:25AM
At any rate, whomever it will be pulling the trigger-- or
planting the bomb-- his life isn't worth anything, he has killed
and maimed too many ALREADY, with more to come. memories are long
in the Mideast.
cicero| 3.11.11 @ 11:45AM
Don't be too surprised when the lovers of liberty and democracy
now taking to the Arab streets use their victrories to vote in
systems and regimes based on sharia law, and 7th century ideas.
Steve A| 3.11.11 @ 12:22PM
You can say what you want about Gadhafi but the guy does have
some pretty cool shirts.
Alan Brooks| 3.11.11 @ 12:40PM
So did Stalin and Pol Pot.
"StalinBra, for the look of rapid industrialization."
Occam's Tool| 3.13.11 @ 9:53PM
Indeed, he does. Anything to take the gaze of what passes for a
face.
Steve A| 3.11.11 @ 1:34PM
Stalin had the cool fuzzy tall hats & the stache rockin. Way
too many buttons on the long coat though.
IMKessel| 3.11.11 @ 10:33PM
Feel free to refrain from stealing my words to advertise your
crap.
Occam's Tool| 3.13.11 @ 9:54PM
Nothing you can do about vermin and scum, unfortunately, IM.
Good article, though.
Occam's Tool| 3.13.11 @ 9:56PM
Actually, we could do best by taking that money and applying it
to our deficit. Screw the scumbags.
Whether the term intifada was correct or not, it does not
matter.
It is a precisely big problem is Ghadafi, the people and the
world is fed up. He's mentally ill is not deserved to become a
leader.
OncealwaysaMarine| 3.14.11 @ 3:53PM
What's ironic about the whole thing is that everybody is
referring to about 200 or 300 insurrectionists out of a total
Libyan population of 6,300,000 people as if this is some kind of
"popular revolt." It's a revolt...but the jury is still out as to
whether it is popular, or just part of some other grand scheme
being financed by the same people who financed Google and Code
Pink's meddling in the Egyptian "revolt."
Personally, I'm not buying any of it...something stinks to high
heaven.
When I look at the video coming out of there, one shot shows 35
or 40 men with 5 trucks with guns mounted on them; the next shot
shows hundreds (if not thousands) of Libyans demonstrating their
support for Gadafhi.
How do we know this “revolution” is not just a fraud set up by
the same Muslim Brotherhood + Soros-sponsored Bill Ayers type
community organizers who helped put together the “revolution” in
Egypt?
Sure, Gadafhi isn't the greatest guy in the world, but after we
overthrew Saddam he did kill his nuke program and has been
cooperating with Western interests. Now, all-of-a-sudden, all of
the Arab states that are the friendliest to the US are having
uprisings and throwing out their leaders?
Why now? And why just Egypt, Libya, Jordan, and Dubai?
Why is no one trying to overthrow the evil dictators who are NOT
America and Western Europe friendly? Don’t expect the stupid
American sheep herd to ask any of those questions. Just like that
mob of idiots up in Wisconsin, they go whichever the liberal PC
wind is blown up their behinds by the MSM and the “highly-educated
liberal intellectuals” currently trying to “socialize” the
world.
And who is really going to replace Mubarak and Gadafhi? What is
the big picture here? I'm not buying the script we're being
presented with.
Why are there no "revolts" in Lebanon, Syria, and Iran?
Why is nobody calling for those dictators who most hate us to
step down?
Something is rotten in Denmark.
I'm amazed at the level of gullibility of the American people to
just believe whatever spin the MSM puts on what is happening here
as if what they are telling you is the gospel. Conservatives ought
to know better by now....
Whatever the Obama/Soros/Socialist International crowd is
pushing... watch out...it might not be what you think it is...and,
most likely, is not in America's best interest.
When I look at the video coming out of there, one shot shows 35
or 40 men with 5 trucks with guns mounted on them; the next shot
shows hundreds (if not thousands) of Libyans demonstrating their
support for Gadafhi.
Alan Brooks| 3.11.11 @ 8:27AM
Gadhafi will be dead before the year is up, perhaps killed by one of his guards who will be bribed to do so.
Then it is off to that Great Camel Bazaar in the Sky.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.11.11 @ 9:45AM
I don't think it will take a bribe. Just sayin'. Maybe a guy who believes in what is right, and is willing to die for it.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.11.11 @ 9:50AM
I would say a man close to him is more likely to NOT kill him because of financial gain. I'm sure he pays them well.
But either way, it only takes one man of principle to get the job done.
loulou| 3.11.11 @ 10:10AM
Really, do we need to insert ourselves into this Libyan problem? We have enough on our plates. Let the French do it.
Alan Brooks| 3.11.11 @ 12:37PM
Oui oui.
But of course.
IMKessel| 3.11.11 @ 1:46PM
We would not need to depend on the less than dependable French (military) if we had kept our military strength (i.e., if the U.S. military were kept at Reagan era levels, the current challenges the United States faces on the two war fronts would not be nearly as problematic and we would not have to look to France to answer this call of duty. Yes, and if a frog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his ass.)
As for Libya itself, President Obama has been, as is his wont on supporting the people’s uprising in the Middle East, been near silent. He is abrogating his presidential and moral leadership responsibilities. While the moral responsibility for the Libyan people lies with the people of the region (e.g., The Arab League) and those who have long established commercial interests in the area, as you suggested, France (and Britain). But along with France's air support, America can offer moral support. (President Obama offering words of comfort, encouragement and solidarity cost Americans nothing. Are we not a shining city on the hill? )
The U.S. through the U.N. (a corrupt and near useless organization,) can take the political heat off France (or Britian) policing Libya's air space. (The chance of Russia or China allowing a U.N. intervention into Libya is extremely improbable, but if President Obama called for such a vote, the region would pay attention.) This call might even provide the necessary political cover for another country, or preferably coalition, to take Gadaffi out of the equation (and hopefully out of this world).
France may be part of the answer, but America has a vital interest in the region. The least we can do is a little cheerleading.
John| 3.11.11 @ 10:22AM
Gadhafi and his family are finished what ever happens to the rebellion. it is always difficult to tell but these revolutions do appear to represent a tectonic shift in Arab civilisation. They are awakening. It may take a few more years or so . I suspect that these countries will be more like turkey in a few decades. I woud be surprised that once they have defeated theocracies such Saudi that we choose another tyrannical regime of any other Colour. America could help by removing support from the tyrannies, seizing all arab assets invested in the west ( :every trillion dollar is stolen) and returning it to the Arab people.
Alan Brooks| 3.11.11 @ 11:25AM
At any rate, whomever it will be pulling the trigger-- or planting the bomb-- his life isn't worth anything, he has killed and maimed too many ALREADY, with more to come. memories are long in the Mideast.
cicero| 3.11.11 @ 11:45AM
Don't be too surprised when the lovers of liberty and democracy now taking to the Arab streets use their victrories to vote in systems and regimes based on sharia law, and 7th century ideas.
Steve A| 3.11.11 @ 12:22PM
You can say what you want about Gadhafi but the guy does have some pretty cool shirts.
Alan Brooks| 3.11.11 @ 12:40PM
So did Stalin and Pol Pot.
"StalinBra, for the look of rapid industrialization."
Occam's Tool| 3.13.11 @ 9:53PM
Indeed, he does. Anything to take the gaze of what passes for a face.
Steve A| 3.11.11 @ 1:34PM
Stalin had the cool fuzzy tall hats & the stache rockin. Way too many buttons on the long coat though.
IMKessel| 3.11.11 @ 10:33PM
Feel free to refrain from stealing my words to advertise your crap.
Occam's Tool| 3.13.11 @ 9:54PM
Nothing you can do about vermin and scum, unfortunately, IM. Good article, though.
Occam's Tool| 3.13.11 @ 9:56PM
Actually, we could do best by taking that money and applying it to our deficit. Screw the scumbags.
putra| 3.14.11 @ 1:32PM
Whether the term intifada was correct or not, it does not matter.
It is a precisely big problem is Ghadafi, the people and the world is fed up. He's mentally ill is not deserved to become a leader.
OncealwaysaMarine| 3.14.11 @ 3:53PM
What's ironic about the whole thing is that everybody is referring to about 200 or 300 insurrectionists out of a total Libyan population of 6,300,000 people as if this is some kind of "popular revolt." It's a revolt...but the jury is still out as to whether it is popular, or just part of some other grand scheme being financed by the same people who financed Google and Code Pink's meddling in the Egyptian "revolt."
Personally, I'm not buying any of it...something stinks to high heaven.
When I look at the video coming out of there, one shot shows 35 or 40 men with 5 trucks with guns mounted on them; the next shot shows hundreds (if not thousands) of Libyans demonstrating their support for Gadafhi.
How do we know this “revolution” is not just a fraud set up by the same Muslim Brotherhood + Soros-sponsored Bill Ayers type community organizers who helped put together the “revolution” in Egypt?
Sure, Gadafhi isn't the greatest guy in the world, but after we overthrew Saddam he did kill his nuke program and has been cooperating with Western interests. Now, all-of-a-sudden, all of the Arab states that are the friendliest to the US are having uprisings and throwing out their leaders?
Why now? And why just Egypt, Libya, Jordan, and Dubai?
Why is no one trying to overthrow the evil dictators who are NOT America and Western Europe friendly? Don’t expect the stupid American sheep herd to ask any of those questions. Just like that mob of idiots up in Wisconsin, they go whichever the liberal PC wind is blown up their behinds by the MSM and the “highly-educated liberal intellectuals” currently trying to “socialize” the world.
And who is really going to replace Mubarak and Gadafhi? What is the big picture here? I'm not buying the script we're being presented with.
Why are there no "revolts" in Lebanon, Syria, and Iran?
Why is nobody calling for those dictators who most hate us to step down?
Something is rotten in Denmark.
I'm amazed at the level of gullibility of the American people to just believe whatever spin the MSM puts on what is happening here as if what they are telling you is the gospel. Conservatives ought to know better by now....
Whatever the Obama/Soros/Socialist International crowd is pushing... watch out...it might not be what you think it is...and, most likely, is not in America's best interest.
~oam
weddingdress| 7.5.11 @ 4:36AM
When I look at the video coming out of there, one shot shows 35 or 40 men with 5 trucks with guns mounted on them; the next shot shows hundreds (if not thousands) of Libyans demonstrating their support for Gadafhi.
Creative Recreation| 8.11.11 @ 1:42AM
is good