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The Shame of Russell Simmons
Hip Hop mogul attacks Peter King hearings: Islamic radicals and the Ku Klux Klan
Here we go.
The effort to demonize New York’s Congressman Peter King for his upcoming hearings on the problem of Islamic radicalization in this country has begun. Over the weekend there was a demonstration in Times Square filled with Muslims and others protesting King. Among the leaders, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, until recently the front man for the proposed Ground Zero Mosque. And, to his everlasting shame: hip hop mogul Russell Simmons.
The charge: “Muslims are under attack” because of Congressman King, claims Imam Rauf. And, worse, from Simmons, not a declared Muslim or apparently anything else but the chairman of the “Foundation for Ethnic Understanding,” comes the disgraceful nonsense that “the whole premise of the hearings is absolutely discriminatory” and “would only foster fear.”
Really?
Let’s stop for a moment and explore an event in American history that took place when Russell Simmons was just six years old, a tragic event that in the end — precisely because there were Americans like Peter King — has helped Russell Simmons become the success that he is. And understand why it was exactly important not to respond to this now long-ago event in the way Russell Simmons is responding to the King hearings.
September 15, 1963. A Sunday morning.
A bomb explodes at the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama. Four young girls, readying for Sunday school, are killed. They had names and families who loved them, too. Those names were: Addie Mae Collins, Carole Robertson, Cynthia Wesley and Denise McNair. Addie, Carole and Cynthia were 14. Denise was 11.
They were also black. In fact, the church is a black church — and not just any black church. By September of 1963 it has been used by Dr. Martin Luther King himself as a place to rally the blacks of Birmingham, a central locale in the struggle for equal rights. Birmingham, Alabama in 1963 is at the dead center of the then-controversial Civil Rights movement, and the Sixteenth Baptist Church is at the center of the movement in Birmingham.
What does not happen next?
There was no statement from the Attorney General of the United States — a white man named Robert F. Kennedy — that to suspect “my people” — white men — in an investigation of this bombing is somehow demeaning. Unlike later and current Attorney General Eric Holder, who says he regards allegations that the Black Panthers had engaged in voter discrimination as demeaning to his “people.”
There was no speculation from the then-Mayor of New York, Democrat Robert F. Wagner Jr. — that the bombing might have been related to President Kennedy’s then-controversial push for tax cuts. As a later New York Mayor Bloomberg would speculate that a caught-just-in-time Islamic radical bomb attempt in Times Square was instead the result of a mentally unstable person upset about ObamaCare.
There was, however, in fact someone in 1963 who took a variation of the theme that Russell Simmons is taking today with the Peter King hearings that begin this week.
It was a suggestion from a prominent white Democrat — Birmingham’s ex-police commissioner, a member of the Democratic National Committee. It was a suggestion that maybe there was in fact someone else to blame for this violence that took the lives of four little girls — someone other than a white person in Birmingham. A suggestion that to focus exclusively on white people was, as Simmons is saying today of those who hold that Islamic radicals are alone responsible for Islamic radicalism, “absolutely discriminatory.”
Said Eugene “Bull” Connor, already famous as the Birmingham police commissioner who unleashed police dogs and fire hoses on civil rights supporters in the streets of Birmingham earlier that year:
“I hope they catch those people who threw the dynamite. But I will say this. I wouldn’t say it was above King’s Crowd.”
About the Author
Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.
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Ken (Old Texican)| 3.8.11 @ 7:16AM
Mr. Lord,
Well spoken, sir.
Alan Brooks| 3.8.11 @ 9:54AM
Many of AS subscribers in 1967 were admirers of the unknown 16th street Baptist bomber. Such is not fashionable 4 1/2 decades later, so today AS is using the race card-- a turnaround.
Deborah D | 3.8.11 @ 10:24AM
Huh?
Sarah| 3.8.11 @ 10:51AM
So let me get this straight. AS subscribers are DEMOCRATS? Oh, you're a funny, funny guy.
Next!
Alan Brooks| 3.8.11 @ 11:10AM
As soon as the GOP realized it could get black votes, it started turning around.
Doctor Right| 3.8.11 @ 12:22PM
As usual, you have it EXACTLY backwards.
When the DEMOCRAT segregationists realized that their political futures were unsustainable, they became born-again champions of blacks and minorities.
Liberals are funny, but none too bright.
Mark Shepler| 3.8.11 @ 12:58PM
Actually, it's a little more complex than that, Dr.
Slaveholding Democrats were always adept at pitting the house servants and overseers against the field hands. House service and associated perks were the carrot for compliance and collusion, sticks mostly were the field hand's lot.
After it became apparent the Jim Crow jig was up they simply realized it was carrots for all that was wanted now to keep blacks on their plantation.
SpiralArchitect | 3.8.11 @ 1:05PM
Why Alan Brooks, are you grouping all people of color into one group, seperating and segragating them.
I thought you, above all others, so wise and open to so many points of view were beyond such bias - and racial profiling.
You are saying that blacks do not currently vote Rep. no?
Is voting really a ethnic based process, not based on values and opinions shared by man & woman, not simply the color of someones skin.
Perhaps the spotlight should turn back unto you, perhaps then you can take a solid look at yourself and your ignorance.
Seek| 3.8.11 @ 1:33PM
Wrong. The Northern Democrats were integrationsists from the start. During the 1960s there was a civil war within the party -- the Northern faction won and Southern faction lost.
Mark Shepler| 3.8.11 @ 1:53PM
Really, you mean like the Copperheads? You mean like the McClellan Democrats who would've ended the Civil War and let the CSA go its way? Wouldn't that have meant a willingness to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act if they would have diplomatic relations? Given their stated hostility to fighting for the Negro one could safely assume so. Or the NYC Draft Riots? Or Woodrow Wilson who clamped down a harsher segregation in Fed employment than almost any before him? And, as Walter Williams tirelessly points out, how one of the main motives of union protectionism, a vastly more Northern enterprise, was really thinly veiled or open discrimination against black worker competition?
And why is it that almost any of the daily stories of racial outrage emanate from northern or other liberal urban bastions? How is it exactly that Chicago is such a hotbed of racial animosity and resentment if its liberal whites are so enlightened, tolerant and accepting? Where are the stories from Montgomery, Charleston or Selma of the festering injustice and oppression of racial division?
You're the one that used the term "always" in flattering yourself. Well, I was born in S. Fla at a time of lingering de facto Jim Crow and dimly remembered expressly segregated beaches. You haven't a clue what you're talking about and fast forwarding 50 years I think it's a safe assumption Northern Liberals always meant true integration for recalcitrant districts...for others. But 50 years on quite obviously prefer their own burgs decidedly otherwise.
Doctor Right| 3.8.11 @ 4:28PM
Rubbish.
Northern Democrats were often as supportive of slavery as were Southern Democrats. PLEASE read some history.
Clint| 3.8.11 @ 12:38PM
That would be mostly Democrat Dixiecrats.
tj| 3.8.11 @ 1:31PM
Your a NUT!! KKK was comprised of DEMOCRAPS
W| 3.8.11 @ 11:29AM
as usual, another idiotic rant from brooks. was AS in business in 1967? who were these subscribers, you and your friends? post your evidence to prove it.
Alan Brooks| 3.8.11 @ 11:44AM
Look it up:
AS "was founded by Emmett Tyrrell in 1967..."
At the time it was not a pro-black magazine.
W| 3.8.11 @ 11:46AM
who were the subscribers that supported the bombers? submit your evidence.
Alan Brooks| 3.8.11 @ 1:13PM
I'm just razzing you- you guys are more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
W| 3.8.11 @ 1:19PM
your idea of fun and razzing is to call people racists? no wonder nobody here takes you serious.
cl| 3.8.11 @ 3:00PM
The bombing was in 1963, AS started in 1967. Is it your intent to divert discussion of Muslim terrorists?
Oldefarte| 3.8.11 @ 12:39PM
As a AS subscriber, I highly RESENT your asinine statement. Also, YOU'RE FULL OF EXCREMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clint| 3.8.11 @ 1:02PM
Brooks craves the negative attention, since he can't seem to get positive attention.
Conservative Bob| 3.8.11 @ 1:39PM
I wish that I could address you face to face as there is only one way to properly respond to such a vile despicable and baseless charge.
Were I able to look you in the eye I would give the opportunity to retract you statement and apologize or receive the ass kicking you richly deserve.
What a sorry excuse for a human you must be you piece of dog excrement.
Alan Brooks| 3.8.11 @ 4:24PM
I'm just doing the same as you are doing to Obama; the nerve of you, calling him a Muslim; all of you ought to be asskecked. The GOP merely wants to garner votes like everyone else.
Doctor Right| 3.8.11 @ 4:29PM
He is a Muslim.
Is that an insult? Calling someone a Muslim?
Alan Brooks| 3.8.11 @ 4:36PM
Obama does not pray to Mecca, nor listen to the Muezzin. And he must be re-elected next year, otherwise you will elect another pale Reagan-imitation.
cl| 3.8.11 @ 5:40PM
Brooks believes it is an insult to call someone a Muslim.
Alan Brooks| 3.8.11 @ 5:45PM
Look, I 'm not even sure who this obama guy is. I post what I am told to post by the people who pay me. I only worry about me and what the government owes me. I have no problem converting and groveling on the floor as a muslim as long as I don't have to get an actual job.
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irish19| 3.9.11 @ 2:05AM
Whatever it is, obviously it doesn't help with spelling, grammar, or sentence construction.
All American American| 3.8.11 @ 7:46AM
Uhh, what's the difference between islam and "radical" islam?
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 10:02AM
One might well ask. I ask what's in it for the moderate to raise his head and speak. It just as it was for Kennedy's investigation. You raise your head and you get a fatwa.
This is a religion where you cannot even get out of the game. The penalty for apostasy is death. To be a Muslim when jihadis are around is to be, or at least appear to be, a GOOD Muslim. When a man has no compunction against killing his own daughter for honor, would you want to be the one to tell him he his god is false? It's a risky proposition.
All American American| 3.8.11 @ 12:24PM
John N,
I think what would be in it for the "moderate" muslim would be the recognition that these "moderate" muslims that Western pols (both left and right) tell us exist, actually DO exist.
I mean we're constantly being told that its only a "small percentage" or "extremist" muslims who commit the terrorism. OK. If its 10% and there are a billion muslims on Earth, why aren't the 900,000,000 "moderate" muslims standing tall against an enemy they outnumber 9-1???
The answer is simple: there is no "extreme" or "moderate" islam--there is only islam. So said Turkey's PM just a year ago or so. There are no "moderate" muslims. The muslims commiting the terrorism and waging jihad are actually doing what allah/mohammed commanded. The problem is too many in the West don't or won't read a (pre 9/11) koran and educate themselves.
Today I was listening to Beck's replacement on the radio, and he starts off all lamenting political correctness and how it is evil and how it distorts truth. Then when talking about the islamists who flew the planes into the WTC, do you know how he referred to them? As "middle eastern extremists." Not even "muslim extremists," middle eastern extremists. I mean are we truly, really even serious about this problem that we can't call guys who flew airliners into the WTC while screaming "allahu akbar" islamists? Really?
Further, when a caller pointed out the passages in the koran calling for waging jihad against infidels, he cut him off and brought up the old testament "eye for an eye," COMPLETELY IGNORING the fact that Jesus Himself addressed THIS VERY PASSAGE in the Gospel. He said "You have heard it said an eye for an eye, but I am here to tell you, if your enemy strikes you on your right cheek, offer him your left." Yet I bet he calls himself a Christian.
We can't, we simply CAN'T keep ignoring or PC-ing down islam. If this country and Europe are to survive we need to make a stand. The sooner the better.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 1:19PM
All American American,
I basically agree with all you have said with the exception that there are modern, secular Muslims (a perjorative for the fundamentalists in Islam as in Christianity). I have known a few personally. Your reference to Erdogan's comment that there is only Islam reflects the political view of Islam which, at least from the Islamist view, is inseparable from the religious. However, Muslims have been living without Sharia all over the world from quite some time. That's the way it should stay if you ask the "moderates" I know.
No one thought twice before the Shah fell to identify as a Muslim. Once people I knew were from Iran, or Tehran; Now they are from Persia. I recently went to an interfaith wedding with a Quran called a "Persian wedding" and not a word was mentioned of Islam. The world has changed.
There are many problems I have with this religion which are out of the scope of this reply, but one is that there is no orthodoxy. Indeed, why does one need an orthodoxy when the words of the Quran are the inalterable, inviolable words of God? This gives rise to imams regarding themselves are legal scholars and issuing fatwas. Poor fourteen year-old Hena was beaten to death for having been raped by a cousin on the basis of a fatwah. In this environment when can the real moderate safely speak? We might ask Ayaan Hirsi Ali who is a refugee from the Netherlands as well as under a death threat from Islamists.
This is the problem that Peter King has observed and that he wishes to probe. It think it is necessary.
All American American| 3.8.11 @ 2:01PM
John N,
I respectfully disagree. The only places muslims "live without shariah" is where they are in the minority. And to be honest it doesn't stop them from practicing it and getting it legitimized through the host country's courts, as is happening in England and even here in America.
Islam is incompatable with the West. While in the minority muslims may seem "moderate," in actuality it is the practice of taquiyaa. Once in the majority it would be interesting to see how those "moderates" act. (But in all honesty I pray to God that never happens).
Putting the qualifier "radical" on islam excuses it of any blame when muslims strap bomb-laden jackets on and walk into coffee shops in Israel, or fly jetliners into skyscrapers.
As for comparing "radical" muslims to "fundamental" Christians, I always ask the person to comapre Jesus to mohammed without assigning any divinity to Jesus, just compare them and their messages in a strictly historical sense. One would come away with a great deal of respect for Jesus. How does mohammed appear though?
You did hit on something that truly needs to be done--stop viewing islam as a "religion" when it is simply a political ideology bent on world domination through terror and warfare, suffering and death. "Allah" is no more "god" than the pencil on my desk is. IMHO any Christian that believes "allah" and Yahweh (God the Father) are one and the same is insane. To believe that would be to believe Jesus was a fraud, and Yahweh needed to reveal a new message a mere 600 years after the death of His Son(?) (You would have to question the legitimacy of Jesus' claim to be God's Son if you believe "allah" = Yahweh, for "allah" says Jesus was a mere islamic prophet. So who's lying???) Not only that, He would choose an illiterate, pagan, pedophile pirate to reveal it to.
I reject islam wholesale as a religion, I would not trust a practitioner of it as far as I could throw him, and I pray for all muslims that their eyes may be opened to the One True God, accept Jesus as their Savior and reject allah/mohammed/Satan.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 2:48PM
All American American,
I suggest the state of Turkey was majority Muslim without Sharia for the last century. Erdogan is doing his best to change that and it is not good.
As a Christian, I share your view of salvation. I have Jewish friends who, by my doctrine, do not practice the one true religion. Same with my Hindi friends and also the Muslim ones (whom I do trust). In thinking about this, I wonder if my Muslim friends are like the Christmas and Easter Christians -- form without substance, as it were but it is hardly my place to ask. The contemplation requires the separation of Islam as law from Islam as religion - a post-enlightenment concept - which does get to the core of the problem.
Having lived in Saudi Arabia thirty years ago, the concept of taquiyaa is quite a familiar one. The problem for Western thought which is based on truth is how does one discuss anything at all with someone known to be a liar? It simply cannot be done and to propose that all Muslims cannot be trusted to tell the truth does not inform the dialog very well. I conclude that the only way to determine that someone is a liar is to detect them in a lie, not to resolve that all Muslims are liars. A Muslim could (taquiya) lie and tell you he is not a Muslim - not a liar. In logic anything is provable from a falsehood.
As a Christian, I have no trouble with your comparison of Jesus and Mohammed and agree with you. As a Muslim, I might have difficulty with that. Your argument, with which I absolutely agree, does rely on the belief that Jesus is the son of God. If that is not your belief, the argument fails.
So does Peter King continue his investigation or do we just throw all the Muslims out of the country?
All American American| 3.8.11 @ 3:32PM
John N,
I don't see the point of King's investigation. To what end is my question? Here's what I mean, and let's us a fictional "Abdullah the Cab Driver" as an example. Say for instance Abdullah one day walked into a Starbucks, shouted "allahu akbar," and shot up the joint. King asks, "How did he get 'radicalized?'"
The answer always seems to be the same. He was just a normal "moderate" muslim until he started going to this "radical" mosque.
OK, how did the mosque get "radicalized?"
Well, they got a new imam and he spouts some very "radical" anti-American ideas.
OK, how did the imam get "radicalized?"
Do you see what I mean when I ask "to what end?" Just how far back is King gonna go? 2001? 1993? 1983? 620? At some point the "investigation" will stop when some "islamic expert" testifies that these are just isolated incidents and blah blah blah islam is a religion of peace and tolerance blah blah blah. If he isn't goint to get to the root of the problem (mohammed/allah) then why bother?
Throw all the muslims out? I guess for me I don't know why this would be out of the question. During WWII would we have allowed Nazi training centers all over the country? Would we have allowed a town in NY to be called "Naziburg" (there's an islamburg) where no non-Nazis were allowed to go? When muslims march in DC to make shariah the law of the land, why aren't they rounded up and deported as subversives to the Constitution?
At the very least muslim immigration should have HALTED on 9/12/01. Instead, from nearly ever islamic country on Earth, it DOUBLED! Look it up. I did and I was shocked when I saw it.
I guess my biggest fear is if flying 2 planes into the WTC and knocking them to the ground, flying one into the Pentagon, and one into a field in PA didn't wake this country up, WTFlip will?
Why are we so scared of islam??? How come nobody is asking hey, didn't we fight an air war (without a UN resolution, btw) in the 90s to free Kosovo? And didn't GWB support carving Kosovo out of Serbia and making it a "free" country? Then why did a Kosovar just shoot two USAF personnel while shouting "allahu akbar" in Germany? Do we really, REALLY need to "investigate" why? Hell Janet Incompitano won't even call THAT terrorism! (But those same Airmen who were shot, had they finished their tours and gotten out and owned guns or voted "republican," or attended a Tea Party rally, well ol' Janet would have no problem calling them potential homegrown terrorists).
WTF are we doing?!?!?
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 4:13PM
All American American,
I've said for a while that there will be no peace until a lot of Muslims are dead. In that sense, we agree. But it's the jihadis I like to get rid of rather than the Egyptian computer programmer over here keeping his head down (unless he is waiting for his 72 virgins). The Anwar al-Awlaki's present a special problem because you can't just throw them out.
What King wants to do isn't to ask how they get radicalized, but who gets radicalized; and he wants help.
Keep the powder dry and aim. A scattershot won't do. I believe we both share the same goals.
Cheers!
All American American| 3.8.11 @ 5:28PM
John N,
Who? Again, what purpose does this serve?
An Army Major did. A TX cabbie did (and "honor killed" his 2 daughters). A guy in Connecticut did (attempted Times Sq bombing). A former black felon did (killed the recruiter in Arkansas, I believe). An upper-class white convert did (John Walker Lindh). The aforementioned English college students did (07/07/07 bombers). The TV producer in NY--oddly enough here to promote the idea of "moderate" muslims--did, ya know the one who "honor killed" his wife? And on and on and on.
This is a congressional goat rope, or dog and pony show, or whatever you want to call it. RINO/Lib republican trying to "look tough," who knows.
We know "who." Muslims. There, Rep King, I just saved the taxpayers however many millions of dollars you were planning on spending on your nonsense.
Now, DO something about it.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 7:20PM
All American American,
And there we part!
As I have said, my experience is that there are Muslims who do not seek jihad. Your statement is reminiscent of Cathar Crusade - kill them all, the Lord will know his own.
I can't buy it. Sorry!
All American American| 3.8.11 @ 8:02PM
John N,
In my post from 2:01 pm today I said I pray for all muslims that they reject the darkness that is islam and accept the light of Christ into their life. Certainly did not say "kill them all."
Until they do, I just don't want them living in my country, working to overthrow it and fundamentally transform my way of life, all the while playing like some sort of "moderate."
As for the Crusades, let's keep in mind islam ran rampant over Eastern Europe, Spain, Italy, France, etc etc for 400 years before the first Crusade was launched.
Leslie| 3.9.11 @ 6:12PM
I agree. We all know that not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims so far. But far be it from me to know the difference. After all, I'm a god fearing, heterosexual, drug free, gun toting, working tax paying American, considered a racist and hate monger because I have a healthy fear of someone I might consider a muslim? Just trying to live my life with the least government interference not wanting to be told who to worship or else!
Negro X| 3.8.11 @ 5:50PM
Throwing them out of the country is the best solution. There are no moderate muslims because the islamic cult of hate doesn't allow it.
roninfla| 3.15.11 @ 2:17PM
Turkey is an example of a moderate Islamic society, even though it is certainly trending towards Sharia and intolerance. I have travelled there many times over the last 20 years; the vast majority of people are tolerant and even friendly towards foreigners based on my personal experience. As an example, I wandered into a convenience store in Instanbul one evening looking to buy some beer; the owner very politely explained to me in his broken English (much better than my broken Turkish) that he didn't sell alcohol because he was an observant Muslim, but there were other shopkeepers down the street that would be happy to sell me some beer. He even walked most of the way down the street with me to make sure I found the right place. He was warm and friendly the whole time, even though I was obviously not a Muslim. Most of my other experiences in Turkey have been similar, and although I admit I have been influence by a biased sample of Turks, there certainly are tolerant Muslims, as I have personally met many of them.
I am deeply saddened by the success of the AKP party, who is looking to impose Sharia on Turkey. The party is actually supported by a minority of the citizens, but the opposition is fragmented into so many different parties (there's at least 100 of them on the ballots), that a small plurality runs the country. While Turkey is certainly moving in the direction of Sharia, it is not there yet, and is proof that it is possible for a secular Muslim society to exist, and in fact has existed since Ataturk ruled.
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 2:13PM
I don't understand how a book dictated by a murderer can be considered the word of God.
Is that Islamophobia?
All American American| 3.8.11 @ 2:23PM
I think it depends to whom you say that. To me that's common sense.
To a muslim? Yes, prolly deserving of a fatwa and maybe a few church burnings and nun-rapings as punishment.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 3:01PM
tatosian,
Without any intention to defend the Quran, it was to have been dictated by the angel Gabriel to Mohammed. That is why is is considered the unalterable word of God. In the Christian and Jewish, to only things written by God were the stone tablets containing the commandments. All other books were the divinely inspired writing of man.
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 6:54PM
Why would the angel Gabriel choose such a one as his mouthpiece?
Mohammed's (or any Muslim) claim that his words were divinely inspired doesn't change the fact that the book is filled with words spoken by a murdering barbarian.
Jesus reattaches a centurions ear that one of his excitable disciples lops off; Mohammed orders the death of a mother of five for insulting him. Jesus chases the money changers from the temple; Mohammed starts a fire on an old Jews chest in order to find where the old Jew has hid the money.
In diligently recording the actions and words of Mohammed, the quintessential and perfect Muslim male, Islam has given us the proof that it is not a religion at all. It is, in fact, little more than a glorified and bloodied criminal enterprise.
If that's a religion then so is the Sinaloa cartel.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 7:14PM
tatosian,
Why Gabriel would choose such a mouthpiece is an ontological question. I don't buy it either. However, the Muslims do not claim the words are divinely inspired. They claim they are divine
I come to the same conclusion as you do. I merely try to explain their thinking. With some experience with them, I take great frustration that those in the West with whom I speak on the topic cannot understand that they simply do not think as we do.
Adherents to a religion which is as profoundly fatalistic as this one is (all is the will of Allah) will come to a conclusion that is in conflict with any notion of free will. More profoundly, when what everything one does is the will of Allah, attempting to interfere is an assault against Allah. Not good!
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 7:55PM
Unbelief is an assault on Allah.
Yeah. The Muslim concept of Defensive war. Which has been enormously successful in the west.
I hope the people at that hearing tomorrow know what questions to ask.
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 8:37PM
CAIR: Rep. King Asked to Clarify Support from Anti-Islam Hate Group
PR Newswire
WASHINGTON, March 8, 2011
WASHINGTON, March 8, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A prominent national Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization today called on Rep. Peter King (R-NY) to clarify the extent of support and advice he has received from a notorious anti-Islam hate group.
The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) issued that call after Brigitte Gabriel, national leader of the hate group ACT! for America, told a reporter with Think Progress that "we are working with Congressman Peter King."
SEE: Radical Islamophobe Advising Rep. King
http://tinyurl.com/4szympz
"Over the past year, we have seen a very disturbing rise in the level of anti-Muslim sentiment nationwide, which we believe is fueled to a large degree by hate groups such as ACT! for America," said CAIR National Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper. "Given the fact that he is about to begin hearings on alleged Muslim 'radicalization,' Representative King should clarify the level of advice and support he has received from ACT! for America, Brigitte Gabriel or other Islamophobes."
Hooper noted that King was forced to drop Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Walid Phares from his witness list after their extremist views and past associations were revealed. (Ali once suggested that the U.S. Constitution should be amended to allow for discrimination against Muslims. Phares is a former official with a Christian militia implicated in the 1982 massacre at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon.)
According to an expose of Gabriel and her group published today in the New York Times:
"Through her books, media appearances and speeches, and her organization, ACT! for America, Ms. Gabriel has become one of the most visible personalities on a circuit of self-appointed terrorism detectors who warn that Muslims pose an enormous danger within United States borders. . .[Rep. Peter] King was the first guest last month on a new cable television show that Ms. Gabriel co-hosts."
The New York Times also stated: "[Gabriel] presents a portrait of Islam so thoroughly bent on destruction and domination that it is unrecognizable to those who study or practice the religion."
SEE: Brigitte Gabriel Draws Crowds in U.S. With Anti-Islam Message (NY Times)
Another expose of Gabriel's hate group published today on Politico.com quoted an Arab-American activist who said: "The idea that congressional staffers would agree to meet an organization led by a woman whose agenda is pure unadulterated hatred and whose purported life story is a laughable fiction -- it's sad."
Funny. CAIR, an unindicted coconspirator with ties to terrorist organizations, manages to control Kings witness list. Creepshow.
http://media.prnewswire.com/en.....id=4548675
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tj| 3.8.11 @ 1:36PM
Here! Here! Stand now
Old Soldier | 3.8.11 @ 12:34PM
Easy question: The "Radicals" are more devout and take the Koran more literally.
As Wilders said: "There is no such thing as moderate Islam"
All American American| 3.8.11 @ 2:07PM
Old Soldier,
You can't take the koran "more literally." To muslims it is the actual, infallable word of allah their (moon) god.
In mohammed's time he lambasted muslims who refused to wage jihad for allah as "hypocrites."
I reject "radical" with respect to islam. Wilders' quote is 100% accurate. Was Major Hassan "radical?" Here was a guy in the AMERICAN ARMY who provided mental health care to US Soldiers. Were the London bombers "radical?" They were born and raised in England, spoke English, and were schooled in English schools. I could go on and on, but for the folks who still believe there is a "radical" element to islam tell me, how do they get "radicalized?" What is it about islam that seems to breed these "radicals" whereas Christianity and Judaism and Hinduism and Buddism and etc etc etc just don't???
davelnaf| 3.8.11 @ 8:29AM
It’s understandable why these people don’t like Congressman King shining a light on Islamic radicalism within their ‘communities.’ Sooner or later this light is bound to illuminate the bloody minded extremism contained within the Koran—no one likes to see their core beliefs dragged through the mud, even if it’s deserved. Throw in also the stink of racism that King has no ‘right’ to investigate Muslim activities in this country because he is a white person and an unbeliever and the protestors come off as looking very foolish. These people do not deserve this country and we certainly do not deserve them.
JimH| 3.8.11 @ 8:41AM
Of course for King, there are terrorists and then there are terrorists, excuse me, freedom fighters. I remember his support of Gerry Adams and the IRA.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 10:11AM
JimH,
You do see the difference, don't you? I'm no supporter of the IRA as the majority of those living in Northern Ireland swore their allegiance to Whitehall. It was a rebellion, the tactics were horrible and no good came of it, but with the exception of the London bombings, it was confined to the local conflict between two people of different views.
Peter King was wrong, in my mind, to support the rebellion.
What he is doing here is investigating criminal behaviour occurring on American soil by a group which has declared war on America. Quite a distinction, I think.
JimH| 3.8.11 @ 10:33AM
While one might make a case to differentiate Jihadists from the the IRA, my point was that King does not have the moral stature to be credible.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 10:53AM
Because he supported the IRA? It isn't necessarily immoral to be wrong.
JimH| 3.8.11 @ 11:30AM
King compared Gerry Adams to George Washington and spoke of the IRA as legitimate freedom fighters against British occupation when it was pretty clear to everyone that they were nothing but communist thugs masquerading as liberators. By expressing this view he revealed either a profound ignorance or an unprecedented level of pandering to the main ethnic group in his district at the time. As a former Queens resident of Irish descent, I know whereof I speak.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 12:26PM
Having lived in London during part of the "troubles" I also have some experience in the matter.
The Sinn Fein (IRA) view was, of course, that the Brits should be expelled and the country reunified. Had those in Northern Ireland felt the same way the issue would have been settled long ago. It was settled, in part, by force during the Irish War of Independence in 1919 with Britain retaining sovereignty over the Ulster provinces.
Sinn Fein began their work a century ago but the roots of Irish Republicanism go back at least a century earlier. Long before Karl Marx existed. That Gerry Adams may be a communist fellow traveller was not known, at least to me, at the time but it is irrelevant. The view was that Ireland was to be unified, that the Brits had been partially driven out and the rest of the job needed to be done. It's hard to damn the "freedom fighter" appelation even if you disagree with the goal. Royalists in the American Revolutionary war obviously disagreed with Washington. The problem was that the majority of those living in Northern Ireland desired to remain part of Britain.
You initial comment suggested that "freedom fighter" and "terrorist" are two words for the same person, only the point of view changes. That is the problem with Orwellian speak. A "freedom fighter" appelation might well apply to William Travis, George Washington, Dutch Moluccans and Tamil Tigers. Some freedom fighters might adopt terrorism (Adams, arguable) while others do not. The British though it terribly unsporting that the rebels would hide behind trees taking pot shot at red coats instead of coming out to the field of battle and everyone knew was right, for example.
If Peter King is not morally capable of investigating terrorism in the U.S. for supporting Irish Republicanism, there are many "Irish" (think Kennedy) would are similarly morally impaired.
TKP| 3.8.11 @ 8:50AM
Perfect analogy - passive approval by folks who would never "pull the trigger" themselves but would not speak up though they work and play with the victims families everyday.
Another analogy - approval of IRA terror activities in the 60/70's by American Irish Catholic community. My family falls into that category, only after Mountbatten was murdered and the far left leanings of the core IRA leadership wer made clear did I hear outspoken disapproval.
Agian - another gem from TAS - I will commit to my arsenal of anti-lunatic liberal WTF? retorts
TJ| 3.8.11 @ 9:01AM
Russell Simmons has been pimpin' blacks for years with his trash. A 50-year old man wearing sneakers, a jogging suit, and a backward cap, telling the black youth to "keep it real." Meanwhile, he's out driving a Rolls Royce and living in a mansion in the Jersey suburbs laughing at all the money he's making off these fools.
Anthony| 3.8.11 @ 9:33AM
All they needed at this gathering of morons was the rotund hypocrite, Michael Moore, to join them in protest.
Why don't they show real solidarity with the Muslim extremists and chain themselves to Bin Ladens cave to prevent an Israeli smart bomb? (It sure as Hell ain't gonna come from the Muslim-In -Chief)
I can't wait for the revolution, payback is going to be fun!!!
loulou| 3.8.11 @ 11:04AM
I guarantee Simmons is going to convert to Islam any day now if he hasn't already.
Doctor Right| 3.8.11 @ 9:30AM
As a general rule, whenever you see or hear the phrase "Hip Hop mogul", think "Total moron".
"Hip Hop" is the lowest form of entertainment, and its practitioners (I can't call them musicians or even artists) generally possess 3rd-grade IQ's to complement their copious bling and tats.
Go, Peter King!
John| 3.8.11 @ 9:34AM
These hearings are a witch hunt against a minority community. Mr king should be investigated for hate Crimes. The best way to reduce terrorism is to drain the swamps of occupation, foreign bases and the support of tyranies & apartheid in ME. the Muslim community in America is fully coperating with the required authorities as all responsible citizens should do to protect their fellow citizens. The Muslim communty is paying taxes used for funding the law enforcement agencies. King is a disgrace. A man looking to throw petrol on a fire. I hope he falls flat on his face. Islam rejects terrorism. The use of terrorism to change culture of nations is a western concept rejected by Islam. King is a terrorist.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.8.11 @ 9:48AM
Bull Conner above
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.8.11 @ 9:48AM
"Islam rejects terrorism"
Wow.... just.. wow...
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 9:58AM
Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan can certainly be considered apartheid states in that they all oppress and murder members of their respective Christian minorities.
"Islam rejects terrorism"...Bukhari:V4B52N220
"Allah's Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.'" Qur'an:8:12
"I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."
Mohammed died in 632. By 732 Charles Martel played his part in turning back a Muslim invasion that absolutely used terrorism to change the culture of nations.
What world do you live in?
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 10:21AM
John,
Right! If only Israeli would withdraw from Gaza there would be peace (in Gaza, at least).
You're in a dream-world and I'm feeding a troll.
Stephanie| 3.8.11 @ 11:18AM
Another America Hater. You, sir, encourage terrorism with your ignorance.
W| 3.8.11 @ 11:35AM
hey johnny, i assume the foreign bases are the USA, and the apartheid tyrrany is Israel? why don't you say so in clear English, and stop pretending to be a muslim. I know that before Israel was established in 1948 all the muslim countries were peaceloving, democratic, representative republics, with freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and, of course, no stoning of women. somehow the presence of Israel changed all this.
John| 3.8.11 @ 12:37PM
Why would I pretend to be a Muslim. There is no greater truth on the earth than Islam. Societies evolve. Americans until recently were kidnapping Africans to turn them into slaves. any constitution that permits that is not worth the paper its written on. The ME is going through a revolution led by young secular people. the future is hard to predict but in my view the democratic genie is out of the bottle in ME. Im an optimist. I hope isreal will now evolve and allow Palestinian refuges to return home as mandated by international law. Law makers should bring people together- be healers. That's why king and those who support him are a disgrace. I hope this ends in humiliation for him and his freinds.
Mark Shepler| 3.8.11 @ 1:05PM
"Americans until recently were kidnapping Africans to turn them into slaves." Too funny that! Hey Johnnie boy, America is the only nation on earth that went to war with itself over the issue resulting in ending the practice. Meanwhile, muslims are "kidnapping Africans to turn them into slaves"....why...as we speak!
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 1:17PM
Bukhari 9:89:256; Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."
Muslims, (whose African slave trade began during the life of Mohammed) until recently were kidnapping Africans and turning them into slaves in Saudi Arabia. Until 1961 that is when the west finally convinced the Saudis to abolish slavery.
The (Muslim) Mauritanians still haven't gotten the message though. ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4091579.stm )
Any religion that promotes slavery isn't worth...anything.
W| 3.8.11 @ 1:26PM
johnny, if you read some history that is not doctored by the mullahs, you will learn that the arbab muslims enslaved more black africans than were sold (not kidnapped) into slavery for the americas. you will also learn that the arab muslim countries all refused to allow the palestinians into their countries, specifically jordan expelled them. you guys love the palestinians but not in your country, you love them only as a symbol against israel.
you forgot to tell us how many free, independent, democratic muslim nations existed before 1948 when israel was established. or how many exist today. or how many ever existed. save you the time to respond. answer is ZERO.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.8.11 @ 1:59PM
It was fellow africans that "kidnapped" the slaves and sold them to americans. At least get your facts straight, dummy.
Anthony| 3.8.11 @ 3:10PM
Hey Maroon, the slave trade is alive and well in Africa, the Middle East, and the Far East. Maybe we can get you recruited, you belong in some 7th century Muslim hell hole, living the life of a present day Muslim woman, then maybe you'll pine for the good ole USA.
Oh by the way, your Muslim hero president has just resumed the GITMO trials. You do remember being one of the useful idiots who screamed that GITMO was a blight on the values of Western civilization, don't you?
You do remember claiming that each day GITMO was open, thousands of Muslim fanatics would swarm to the cause, don't you?
Your Muslim president has made a complete ass out of you.
So do something useful with your life, become a human shield.
Doctor Right| 3.8.11 @ 12:24PM
MAINE is occupied with foreign bases that are supported by tyranny!?!?
Man the battle stations, folks! New England is under assault!
Oldefarte| 3.8.11 @ 12:43PM
John, you're STUPID! Learn how to write correct, grammatical ENGLISH!!!!!!!
Mark Shepler| 3.8.11 @ 1:10PM
You know what the problem with that hoary old McCarthyite withhunt trope is, John?
There really were witches. There really were subservient communists who were aiding and abetting a hostile foreign power. It was not illegal to be a communist witch but simply to be one in sensitive positions, as we defined sensitive as is any nation's right. Their main complaint then and now is they wanted the right to lie about it.
So, yes, were looking for witches 'cause they're there. Small numbers among many good, loyal law-abiding ones to be sure, but there none the less.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.8.11 @ 2:00PM
Amen, Brother.
Tim the Enchanter| 3.8.11 @ 2:28PM
"We have found a witch; may we burn her?"
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 7:40PM
She's a duck! :)
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 3.8.11 @ 9:45AM
Now that's some good perspective. Didn't think of it that way, bc the libs are trying to make him out to be McCarthy.
hunter| 3.8.11 @ 10:02AM
Just the idea of having a light shined on them causes great distress and knashing of teeth foaming at the mouth and great lies spewing forth. Words cannot hide truth, they will be found out and they know it. Why else would they protest? It should be welcomed if they were not guilty and had nothing to hide.
John| 3.8.11 @ 5:02PM
Islam from the very beginning encouraged the freeing of slaves. The prophet peace be upon him said that if anyone inslaves a free man hell fire becomes compulsory for such people. but the slavery in ancient times can not be compared with industrial levels of slavery practice by Europe and America. Half of the Africans were drowned in the ocean. A genocide that took 15 million lives. if you Want to deny that good for you. Mr king's witch hunt of the Muslim community is the continuation of the very worst strand in American culture. I know America is better than that. And by the way the concept of ashura is very close to democracy. Secondly no civilisation has a monopoly on good ideas. I'm sure Muslim nation can learn a great deal from others including America .
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 5:30PM
'splain slavery in the Caliphate, will you. While you are at it, explain how the Catholic church began writing against slavery in the 14th century and it remained in Arabia until the 20th. Finally explain how this enlightened religion converted capture slaves to Islam...
... if you can!
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 5:38PM
By the way, the correct numbers are:
15 million enslaved and transported to the "new world".
20% died during the trip. That's 3 million dead, not 15. There was no benefit in drowning a valuable cargo.
Of the 12 million who made the trip, the number to make it to the colonies was 500,000. Most went to Brazil and the islands.
John| 3.8.11 @ 6:00PM
Only 3 million dead. is that meant to make us feel any better?
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 6:54PM
No! Just to point out that you are making this up as you go along.
John| 3.8.11 @ 7:13PM
You admit that the west killed three million innocent Africans. And then accuse me of not getting the numbers right. I'm so sorry. Really I am. Islamic civilisation is not perfect but when it comes to mass murder you guys are real pros.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 7:22PM
We guys? Arab slavers sold the guys to Portugese slavers. It was the English and the West who abolished this trade. Piss off!
John| 3.8.11 @ 8:33PM
In denial. just admit the undeniable fact of history -that America inslaved Africans and was built on slave labour. We can then all move on. Go on its not difficult.
Dave Williams| 3.8.11 @ 5:44PM
John, you moronic apologist for a bloodthirsty, hateful, humorless, life-hating religion -- I'd just LOVE to hear you list 10 things that you admire about America that Muslims could learn...
John| 3.8.11 @ 6:03PM
I could mention a hundred things. Idiot. Only an idiot would believe that know everything.
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 7:00PM
You could start with answering the questions posed to you. But then again, you'd probably be making it up or repeating, without basis in fact, the talking points you have read.
John| 3.8.11 @ 7:21PM
I was wrong to say a hundred things. If I was honest its probably an infinite number of things that Muslims can learn from America . That doesn't mean I can't be critical with some of the things America does especially in foreign policy .
John Navratil| 3.8.11 @ 7:23PM
And the answer to the first question of an infinite number escapes you?
Piss off!
John| 3.8.11 @ 8:12PM
piss off! Not very nice. its about the level of some of the people on this board. Peace to all.
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 7:21PM
ibn Khaldun Muslim Philosopher 1332-1406 - "Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated."
The Muslims enslaved two African women for every one African male.
The males were castrated "to the belly" right there on the trails. Estimates are that 7 of 10 males died as a result.
The koran allows the taking of slaves and their property.
Stop your lying.
John| 3.8.11 @ 8:26PM
you really had to scratch around for those quotes . Funny coming from a civilisation built on mass murder , holocausts , slavery. You are in no position to lecture anybody. Some of the greatest Muslims and companions of the prophet were Africans . The majority of Africans are Muslims. Read the last sermon of the prophet peace be upon him- he said that black and White people are equall. And the only thing that distinguishes people is piety.
tatosian| 3.9.11 @ 12:01AM
The various Muslim sources literally bristle with the hatred and violence spread by Mohammed. Give a look... http://www.usc.edu/schools/col.....ces/texts/
Free your mind bro...your dragging knuckles will follow. Till then, lick some shoes or something and leave decent folks alone.
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 8:05PM
Ashura; Muslims walking through the streets beating themselves in the head with swords and flogging themselves bloody is similar to democracy?
You know what? This guy's a waste of time.
John| 3.8.11 @ 8:17PM
Sorry typo . Its shura.
tatosian| 3.8.11 @ 10:07AM
This is a good piece.
But I wonder at the absence of Robert Spencer in his list of those who are "tracking and exposing the activities" of Islamic fundamentalists. Credit where credit is deserved.
Radioman777| 3.8.11 @ 10:17AM
Why would anyone bother listening to Russell Simmons?
Deborah D | 3.8.11 @ 10:32AM
It's just like Obama hiding the fact that he was a socialist (at least!) during the 2008 campaign, the Left couldn't stand having the truth told about them because they knew Americans would reject them. It's the same for those such as CAIR who want the facade of being a civil rights organization when in reality they are the front group for various radicals.
King just might also expose the ties between the American left and radical Islamic extremists. Boy, they really don't want that out. Be careful, Congressman King, while you shine the light in a nest of vipers.
loulou| 3.8.11 @ 11:05AM
I just hope Peter King has the cojones.
Occam's Tool| 3.8.11 @ 12:42PM
Dear John,
awww, what's the use of feeding a Terrorist Catamite.
Oldefarte| 3.8.11 @ 1:02PM
ALL populations have tended to protect their own [ie the Irish, African-Americans, Muslims, Italians, Jews, Israelies, etc]. Any/every cop will tell you horror stories of their attmepting to investigate murders/crime within black neighborhoods, and NO ONE apparently knows, saw, withnessed, heard, etc ANYTHING that occurred right in front of their eyes. Duh, give up a BROTHER or SISTER, you've got to be kidding? The Germans apparently were totally ignorant of Hitler's/Nazi's carting off Jews in the middle of the night from their neighborhoods [see JUDGEMENT AT NURENBERG's famous conversation between Marlene Deitrich and Spencer Tracy]. In all such cases/populations USUALLY there is SOME kind-hearted individuals that value human life and do the righteous/moral thing. That is precisely why the Bobby Kennedys of law enforcement are usually able to investigate successfully their criminal targets within populations. The FBI, Kennedy, or THE ALMIGHTY would never have been able to uncover these perpetrators WITHOUT THE MASQUERADED ASSISTANCE/I.D'ING from these moral citizens. Sure, there's family/neighborhood/community/employment etc pressure on them to keep quiet and to not volunteer their know information, but they do so anyway because of their sense of fairness, morality and religious faith. They simply DO THE RIGHT THING, as Dr. Laura would say. Is King right.....you damned right he is. This terrorist problem could be solved/removed in a nano-second if MUSLIMS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES WOULD COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY THE RADICALS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES, but they do not. Is any one here insane enough to try and convince us that these Muslim community leaders/inhabitants DO NOT KNOW who among them in their mosques etc are radicalized? BULL EXCREMENT!!!!!!!
Mark Shepler| 3.8.11 @ 1:02PM
You know, when I see 300,000, 30,000, 3,000, Saturday's 300 or even 30 American muslims at a "Not in Our Name" rally after the latest islmaic outrage, due any minute now, I might, just maybe take their wailing and gnashing of teeth a little more seriously.
And when I see free and open churches in Mecca, or any muslim city and all of the attacks against all of the "others" by muslims along the bloody borders of islam, maybe, just maybe I'll suffer lectures from them on tolerance.
CalMark| 3.8.11 @ 1:52PM
An article with a compelling theme, but it's looooong and hard to read. I quit before finishing page 2.
In other words, it needs editing. Lots. Mr. Lord (and R. Emmett), if you're reading this, take note.
Skippy| 3.8.11 @ 4:23PM
Don't shorten the articles; extend your attention span.
This ain't USA Today, bub.
We think around here.
Jeffrey Lord| 3.8.11 @ 5:14PM
Skippy...
Bingo. My mail indicates people read...and think. Which is why the research and writing....
Thanks.
Wayne| 3.8.11 @ 5:26PM
Why should anyone listen to a guy who has poisoned the music well, wares a suit with a baseball cap and sneakers an was stupid enough to marry Kimora Lee ?
Kenneth Allen| 3.8.11 @ 5:38PM
I have changed your ending to provide a bit of background on Saint Peter King.
And just who is the Jerry Adams of yesterday when it came to zeroing in on inflaming and supporting NORAID the IRA equivalents of the network that supported the terrorist men in the 1960s through the 1990s.
That man is Congressman Peter King.
Negro X| 3.8.11 @ 5:54PM
The point of King's investigations is to actually expose the continual lies about islam that are constant spouted by the liberal media in America.
Its' always the " lone gunman", " alleged muslim", " fear of backlash" garbage from the media.
GENE HAUBER| 3.8.11 @ 6:41PM
hey guys,
never argue with a fool, aka, alan brooks.
Dee See| 3.8.11 @ 10:59PM
"Understand, you're culture has never been yours. It's been designed by professionals,
funded by the Globalists, EUGENISTS, the
Milner Group, the Rockefellers, the Tavistock
Institute, Stanford Research. Why, you haven't
had anything that can be called genuine culture
since before WW1! ---truly folks. Believe you me."
-ALAN WATT
(essential online listening)
Having destroyed our culture so effectively
these past 6 decades ----time to branch out.
It's part of the plan...
Creative Recreation | 8.11.11 @ 2:16AM
is good