Back in the good old days, if you weren't a union supporter, you
were un-American. Those of a certain age remember movies like
Norma Rae, where poor, impoverished Southern women were
crushed under the heels of evil, white slave-drivers before being
rescued by altruistic union organizers. Or the made-for-TV weeper,
The Triangle Factory Fire Scandal, where poor,
impoverished Northern women leapt to their deaths because of evil,
white slave-drivers who were later punished by altruistic union
organizers.
Thanks to tremendous amounts of propaganda over the years,
an inordinate affection for unions has, over time, wormed itself
into our national psyche. Name one Hollywood movie made in the past
30 years that fails to portray them in a good light. The last was
probably Elia Kazan's On the Waterfront, which actually
only bashed the crooked leaders, while continuing to sanctify the
rank and file; a practice which has continued unabated in the media
up to this very day.
But it had to happen sooner or late in this age of 24/7
media coverage: the lid has finally been lifted from the boiling
cauldron of government union corruption; friendly fire from class
warfare has finally caught up with the liberal machine. In
Wisconsin and across the nation, the ugly stew of union thuggery
and liberal skullduggery has come to the national forefront and is
widely available for sniffing. And, try as they might to
euphemize away the struggle -- calling groups of
hyper-organized, bused-in union members, "citizen uprisings" -- the
American people are finally seeing through the rhetoric and getting
a glimpse of a truth once obvious only to us right-wing
extremists.
Gone are the days when Hollywood screenwriters and their
fellow storytellers in the media can sing sad songs and paint
pathetic pictures of downtrodden, peons laboring under the brutal
yoke of big business. Some of the largest salaries and benefit
packages in the nation now belong to those sucking the lifeblood
out of U.S. taxpayers. Although the dirty dealings between public
section unions and the Democratic Party have been well-chronicled
in certain
circles, the public has been mostly unaware of the
self-perpetuating aspects of this unholy marriage; until now, that
is.
Inevitably, after private sector unions have almost
vanished in this country by bankrupting nearly every industry
associated with them, they have now demonstrated their smothering
effect on our city, state and federal governments. But how did this
happen?
Decades ago, people became civil servants because they
either truly wanted to serve the community or just couldn't get
jobs elsewhere. The pay was not too hot but the benefits were
usually good. Then came the big labor organizers and with them, the
attendant brain-washing. Just try and talk to a civil servant; or
worse, an uncivil postal employee on the subject. Otherwise
clear-thinking men and women turn into raging monsters at a hint of
questioning the justice of collective bargaining or the mere
mention of Ronald Reagan's name. Their union membership all but
made them the worst caricature of one-issue voters as well as a
breeding ground for generations of dependable Democrats.
But you know the tide is turning when even New York's
Governor Cuomo, son of liberal demigod Mario, has seen the light
and taken the
pledge. It's getting so bad that even my ultra-liberal hometown
paper had a front-page piece
exposing the outrageous pay and practices of our police
department, where one officer made a total of $274,988 on the city
payroll and another made $95,962 in overtime alone. No, it's
getting harder and harder for liberals to claim that the salaries
of corporate America are obscene, when the true obscenity is as
close as your local police station or the schoolhouse
door.
We were lectured ad nauseam by our president for two years
-- until the 2010 midterms -- that "elections have consequences,"
and so they do. More and more Americans are finally getting the
connection between more taxes and less freedom; between socialism
and labor unions and most importantly, between government employees
and the heretofore unwitting dupes who pay them.
They are looking around at their fellow citizens who are
members of government unions and seeing, not dozens of poor, noble
Norma Raes who desire only enough to feed their struggling
families, but six-figure earners who will retire at 55 with
lifelong pensions and benefits; all on their dime.
Big Government Union Parasite Leeches are sucking up confiscated
American Taxpayers' Money .
Rise Up In Rebellion.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
vtwin| 2.24.11 @ 2:30PM
"I'm not taking a side on this, I'm just telling you what's
going on...to pretend this is about a fiscal crisis in the state of
Wisconsin is malarkey" --Shepard Smith of FOX "NEWS"
The Teachers Union is doing for American Education what The
Autoworkers Union did for The American Auto Industry & The
Steelworkers Union did for The American Steel Industry.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Rise Up.
Redstateboy| 2.24.11 @ 4:35PM
BooYaa!! Brilliant Piece!! It dawned on me that Lisa Fabrizio is
absolutely correct in that Hooeywood has been giving us 60+ years
of Unions Good - Business Eeeville BS. I'm a witness to what Unions
did to Buffalo, NY. in just 50 years turning that City from an
Industrial Giant to a Welfarite/Slave Party enclave of Poverty,
Crime, Corruption and ignorance.
Redstateboy| 2.24.11 @ 4:39PM
those 15 year twits protesting with their (cough, cough)
"Teachers" and parents in Madison, 15 years from now, when they're
bust'n it to put gas in their Cars, food on their tables and pay
their bills AND having 50 cents on every dollar they earn
confiscated by the Government can recall back when their own
Teachers and Parents used them as Pawns.
Alan Brooks| 2.25.11 @ 12:22AM
You want to set a right-wing welfare state, no one is fooled
anymore.
But do what you have to do, this is your country.
CRM| 2.24.11 @ 9:59PM
Shep Smith is an expert on the state of economics in Wisconsin
apparently. I have lived in WI all my life and we are broke. Broke.
No money. The average teacher salary + benefits at Milwaukee Public
Schools just went over $100,000. Its about the money.
Turnditch| 2.24.11 @ 6:40AM
The Hollywood comparison angle is one I hadn't thought of Ms.
Fabrazio.
I have to admit that every time I've seen a
pro-government-employee-union person being interviewed by the media
in Madison, poor ole downtrodden Norma Rae never enters my
mind.
Great read ma'am...
Ryatto| 2.24.11 @ 6:52AM
Miss Lisa, Yankee fan, hit this one so far it would have cleared
the facade in the old Stadium. Love her on sports, religion, but
her political columns are primo. If she wasn't such a baseball fan
I'd try to talk her into moving down to Tennessee.
MikeD| 2.24.11 @ 7:40AM
Apparently elections only have consequences when Republicans
lose them. Even though I get more furious by the day as the
travesty of thuggery and democratic arrogance escalates in
Wisconsis, Indiana and Ohio, with every passing day the possiblity
that the criminal tactics will actually work gets more likely.
Every day that passes gives the media wing of the socialist
party more time to spin and lie; until it could finally become so
untenable for the party that actually won the election that they
will give up. Frankly, signs of weakened resolve are appearing
every day; as symbolized by Mitch Daniels surrender.
It has also proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the
democratic party and their two allies, the media and the crooked
unions, is no more than an arm of organized crime. The time is past
for the Republicans to start waging real political war. They should
use every weapon in their arsenal. Paychecks for fleeing
representatives should be witheld; and the remaining
representatives should pass every legally possible law to crush the
democrats by party and the fugitives individually. If it hasn't
dawned on the GOP, the democrats have declared total war on the
Republicans and the American people; and are brazenly attempting to
negate the results of the most important election since
Reconstruction. We'd better fight back with the same tactics or
it's all over.
Thunderbottom| 2.24.11 @ 9:36AM
For one sector of government workers, namely, the military,
penalties are imposed if members go AWOL (or UA - "Unexcused
absence" - for sailors and Marines). I remember hearing squeals of
outrage from feckless sailors who, upon receiving their paychecks
after being UA for a few days, discovered that their pay had been
docked for the time they had been absent from their duty stations.
This was in addition to any punitive penalties imposed by their
commanding officers at "Captain's Mast" - non-judicial punishment
(they could forfeit up to a half-month's pay for two months). If
such measures are good enough for our servicepeople, then they
should be good enough for our civil service workers and
legislators.
MikeD| 2.24.11 @ 10:25AM
Excellent Comment. Besides, our men and women in uniform are so
far above the crybabies and thugs that compose our public employee
unios they're not even in the same universe.
Bob Knutson| 2.25.11 @ 5:48AM
Amen, Brother. My pay was always held down because of the future
benefits I would recieve.
Now, in retirement, if I didn't have another source of income, I
would literally starve, or be on welfare.
tatosian| 2.24.11 @ 7:43PM
You're right.
The Democrats and the unions have gone all in in Wisconsin and
we're seeing, once again, the Republicans (excepting Gov. Scott
Walker) getting ready to fold.
It seems that everyone, including the citizens of Wisconsin, are
just waiting around for an outcome.
Isn't there something the citizens of Wisconsin can do to show
their support for either Walker or the unions and so end this
sideshow?
I mean, their legislature has been shut down by union
demonstrators, their schools have been shut down and some of their
legislators have skipped town. This is serious stuff.
Where are the citizens?
Handy| 2.24.11 @ 8:04AM
Lisa, you have encapsulated the essence of Unionism. It was bad
enough when it was limited to the private sector, but when it
metasticized and invaded the public sector, it became well-nigh
incurable.
It is good to remember that most violence against the owners of
mines, wells, factories and transporation companies was initiated
by unionists of the past. That's what happens when ignorance is set
ablaze by demogoguery. Expect to see violence against public
facilities in the near future as the goons of the public sector
rise up. For the children, of course.
This brings up another point. Unionists are cowards. We abhor it
when terrorists and other "nogoodniks" use human shields, but
unionists get a free pass when they play the sympathy/victim card.
They make a big deal out of "Solidarity," but they are really just
hiding behind their skirts and those of others. On a personal
level, they are just plain afraid of hard work. Cowards.
I sincerely hope that recent events are the beginning of the end
of public sector unionism. Specifically, I hope that they are the
death knell of all public education, which has failed so miserably
everywhere it has been tried. Socialism, anyone?
The cancer that is uni0nism has had 80-90 years to sweep our
nation. It has left a lot of private corpses in its wake. We can
only wish that it will kill off public education and bloated
bureaucracies as effectively as it did big steel and
automobiles.
Without radical surgery, the body politic is doomed to a
tragically painful death. Thanks unions.
Louis Jenkins| 2.24.11 @ 8:46AM
There is a big difference now adays between what was unions and
now what is unions. I can still remember the old folks talking
about union movements being busted by gun fire. Now the shoe
appears to be on the other foot. Only this time it is the taxpayers
who are footing the bill. Maybe the taxpayers should note the old
fashion way of dealing with the unions.
MikeD| 2.24.11 @ 9:10AM
Louis,
Your point is well taken. There was a time that the unions were a
necessity, and not just because of the terrible tactics of the
owners and managers, but for economic reasons too.
One of the reasons the Great Depression (Although I can never
understand how a depression or a war could EVER be called "Great")
happened was because the laborers were so poorly paid that they
couldn't even buy the products they were making in the factories
where they worked. Along with the plethora of protective tariffs
that arose to protect each country's markets, the lack of hard
currency circulating advanced the conditions that caused the
collapse of the economy. Of course, these are just a few of the
many things that caused the depression, but they were certainly
factors.
The situation is almost the exact reverse today. The out of
control public employee unions, and the cycle of using union dues
to fund democratic party causes is the most dangerous development
in our times because it effectively perpetuates the conrol of the
democrats who have clearly demonstrated their basic philosophy of
doing ANYTHING to gain, and hold, power. The cycle has to be broken
or our Country is dead. It is quite clear that obama and his fellow
thugs don't give one damn about the damage or the impression they
are making in the minds of voters. They can do this because they
know that, if they get their way on this, ELECTIONS WILL NOT
MATTER. As our 'Thug in Chief, barry the muslim famously, and
arrogantly sneered, "ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. Unless, of
course, you happen to be a Republican. Then, it's screw you! We'll
do what we damn well please because we know you don't have the
stones to stop us. Oh, also, because, the longer we hold out, the
more time our media wing will have to mold public opinion". At
least now all America can clearly see the distain the democrats
have for the electoral process.
The Bishop| 2.24.11 @ 8:51AM
I am a recently retired federal employee. I was part of the
management structure for about 15 years of my career and a member
of a public sector union for a good part of my non-management
career (National Treasury Employees Union - NTEU).
I left the union in the latter stages of my career because I
witnessed first-hand the corrupting power given to it by agency
management and the way in which the union used it. When I was a
manager and attempted to deal with unproductive and incompetent
employees, the union was there every step of the way working to
keep the unproductiveness and incompetence in its place. And every
political season, it was no secret which national party was favored
by the union and which it supported. And one fact that I've seen no
where is that some federal union employees in each state are
allowed to devote 100% of their workday to union activities but
paid their regular federal salaries. So the taxpayer is unwittingly
funding the functionaries of these unions.
Public employee unions are corrupt, bloated, and (dare I say?)
evil. I hope that Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio and the other state
leaders serve their constituency and their budgets by eliminating
the corrupting influence of collective bargaining. Great article,
Lisa.
Brian Mc| 2.24.11 @ 8:55AM
"Hoffa" was a pretty scary look into the corruption and greed
associated with the mindset unionists hold when they feel their
fight is right and it's those 'others' who are evil.
The bitterness, spite, malice, vindictiveness and outrage that
the left feels is justified as they fight the 'good' fight [because
if they see fit to fight 'it' it must be good] is at times, fun to
watch, scary and yet quite sad as it proves the narrow-mindedness
inherent to their causes. They're always willing to get along, just
so long as it's their boot on the throats of conservatives. Once
the order is reversed, the screeching and howling is comical and we
can only hope that swing voters are paying attention at this
detestable show of self-centeredness. "Screw the country, just so
long as I get mine" attitudes will hopefully wake up those who have
yet to see the light of what is really occurring-what is truly at
stake up in Madison...and they will finally, and willfully and
permanently start voting for the revival of this Republic.
Seek| 2.24.11 @ 11:17AM
About the movie, "Hoffa" (1992): Danny DeVito directed; David
Mamet wrote the script. The movie depicted the Teamsters titan in a
sympathetic, but not sugarcoated light. Jack Nicholson/Jimmy Hoffa
was a crook and a nasty guy, but he did stand up for his
people.
There aren't all that many movies about labor unions, but Ms.
Fabrizio, given her ignorant and taunting style, could have been
expected to overlook "Hoffa." Naturally, in her denunciation of the
film about the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, she conveniently overlooks
the fact that this wasn't just about women "leaping" to their
deaths. This was a terrible fire that killed more than 100 persons,
an event by the way which happened exactly one century ago, in
1911. Lisa Fabrizio is a disgrace to TAS.
CalMark| 2.24.11 @ 4:20PM
Seek: only an unreconstructed, brainwashed Leftist could call
Lisa Fabrizio's writing "ignorant and taunting." It's pretty mild,
compared to the rants and nastiness of liberals like--say, for
instance--you.
Anyone who even remotely understands literary devices (you
obviously don't, probably a result of being taught by public school
Union teachers) sees the passages you condemn as exagerration in
the service of a larger point.
And anyway, Seek, it takes a lot of nerve to say what you do.
The Left mantras "let's not pass judgment" and "let's get both
sides of the story" are notably absent from your intolerant,
strident post.
Seek| 2.24.11 @ 4:47PM
In the minds of people like you, an insult or a threat is
usually what passes for an idea. Has it occurred to you that a
conservative who takes issue with another conservative isn't
necessarily a "Leftist?" There is nothing intolerant about pointing
out that Ms. Fabrizio's post was long on aggression and short on
facts.
So I've got "nerve?" Good. I'm hoping I can preserve as much it
as I can.
Le Cracquere| 2.24.11 @ 11:54PM
Ms. Fabrizio overlooked nothing relevant about the Triangle
fire. She simply pointed out the truth: the Left battened onto a
terrible disaster in which many innocent lives were lost. The
sequel was mass unionization. One of history's ironies: the
undeserved deaths of honest workers resulted in a tsunami of
dishonest quasi-workers, newly protected against disasters now
abundantly deserved.
Stomry| 2.24.11 @ 9:09AM
Jack Nicholson's movie "Hoffa" did not exactly show the unions
in a good light. Interestingly, it also showed Robert Kennedy as a
bit of a showboating jerk.
Anthony| 2.24.11 @ 4:25PM
Hoffa knew lowlifes when he saw them. To his credit, he was
right about the Kennedys, they were bigger dirtballs than he
was.
Since Hoffa was a bluecollar stiff, and not a lace-curtain shanty
Irish with a Harvard degree, I'll put Hoffa above the Kennedys
anyday.
xRedcoat| 2.24.11 @ 9:34AM
While most of the media are reflecting on Pres. Ronald Reagan's
stand against the air traffic controllers, they should also
acknowledge his accomplishments as president of Hollywood's Screen
Actors Guild. He headed the initial negotiations that ultimately
resulted in the first pension and health plan for SAG members.
That demonstrates both benefits and risks associated with union
representation. When it comes to public sector unions, it’s a
two-edged sleep-fest - - less about benefits and more about greed
and power.
As documented on ballotpedia.org, the NEA, SEIU, AFSCME, AFL-CIO
and numerous subsidiaries, promote candidates, legislation and
regulations that are detrimental to a robust economy and good
education.
When they have a community organizer in the White House that
they visit two and three days a week, its down right dangerous.
These are lessons learned when the Trade Union Complex is
allowed to proliferate and dictate not only who gets to work where
and for how much, but also who represents them at the bargaining
table and ballot box.
Let’s applaud British PM Margaret Thatcher's resolve to stand up
against the Trade Unions when they unleashed a full economic
assault on the British economy and brought the country to its
knees. The people rallied behind Thatcher and the unions had to
back down.
Scott Walker has taken a page from her book. We finally have a
political executive with the backbone to stand fast for the
Wisconsin populous, it couldn’t have started in a better place.
This economic cancer caused by the Trade Union Complex has to be
surgically removed and their ability to spend hard earned member
dollars on political ambition curtailed once and for all.
It starts in Wisconsin. Hopefully it will end with Democratic
stronghold California.
RacerJim| 2.24.11 @ 11:47AM
"Elections have consequences."
"We won."
"They can come along for the ride but they'll have to sit in the
back (of the bus)."
Amazing the Democrat's hypocrisy.
David T| 2.24.11 @ 9:42AM
Excellent piece, Ms. Fabrizio. Public sector unions should be
outlawed.
Thunderbottom| 2.24.11 @ 9:49AM
"Although the dirty dealings between pubic section unions..." I
also noticed the same typo in the title on the home page. While
unintentional, it's apropos: the "pubic sector" unions are like a
bad case of blood-sucking crab lice, causing extreme discomfort in
both the local and national economies.
Kris Lepine| 2.24.11 @ 9:57AM
I married into a union family. My father in law lost his hearing
due to unsafe working conditions in Canada in the 1930's. He found
work, opportunity and safety when he can to the USA in the 1940's
and joined a union. That has been totally corrupted in the last 60
years in all unions. The Detroit Carpenters District Council union
rep is in federal prison for stealing millions of hard working men
and womens dues money for his own gain. I listened to speech after
speech in the years my husband was involved as a union rep and they
never deviated from the topic (and probably still say).......vote
Democrat because the Republicans will break the unions. America,
the unions have "broken" themselves. Thank God my husband got out
in the mid 1990's as the corruption is rampant everywhere you
look.
Here's what's pitiful about the liberals. They can show and
preach hatred of their fellow countrymen and by force, if
necessary, demand "their rights", while at the same time they
"coddle" militant jihidists who are out to kill us. We are told to
be tolerent, understanding, turn the other cheek and they will love
us. Hmmmmm, doesn't seem to be working.
The only way to limit the unions powerful strangle hold over
this country is to vote Republican.
David| 2.24.11 @ 10:08AM
Im pretty sure there a couple of biopics of Hoffa that pretty
well slam the Teamsters for being fairly corrupt.
Where is the union for the taxpayer, and why wasn't he at the
table when the contract was negotiated? Oh, that's right, our union
is called Government, and the Dems were in charge at the time.
Al Adab| 2.24.11 @ 10:57AM
Hence the TEA Party. Somehow voters much defend their own
dollars. Perhaps we could call the TEA Party our union, set it up
that way, pay dues and see how The Left reacts. Interesting
idea.
People want Walker to come clean, and well he should. Walker is
union-busting, and it's for the long-term good of his budget. I
wish he'd just say it.
Meanwhile, the union organizers could admit something of their
own - without unions, Democrats will no longer be elected in most
of the country. And that's what this is really all about.
Part of the reason for the "unions are all-American" meme is
that it is part of the Jewish-American fable. The victims of the
Triangle fire were predominantly Jewish; many of the early, radical
union leaders were Jewish as well. Norma Rae? Her union rep
"savior" happened to be a northeast Jew as well. Of course, all
those pro-union movies have been made by Jewish-run Hollywood. This
is intricately intertwined with this country's leftist recasting of
history. Many may think of Jimmy Hoffa when they think of unions,
but a great deal of the money and muscle behind today's unions
(SEIU/Andy Stern, anyone?) is Jewish. Spare me the usual "you
hateful anti-Semite" garbage, folks; these are facts, and FWIW,
while I am a Christian, I am of Jewish heritage. However, I am a
conservative, not a right-liberal movement Republican, and I deal
with facts and reason, not emotion and PC restrictions.
Franco| 2.24.11 @ 12:58PM
I am a card-carrying member of the International Jewish
Conspiracy (Pornographers/Bankers/Lawyers/Moneylenders Local
666).
You are plainly onto us.
We will break you.
Actually, the connection between unionism and Jewishness is plain.
The 19th-centry influx of Eastern European Jews was of a people
highly persecuted, economically and politically, in their former
countries. Thus impoverished, sticking together in numbers was
second nature. Other than that, I can't even imagine what your
point is.
Sam Levi| 2.24.11 @ 1:37PM
Why is it that whenever a Jew is successful, so called
"Christians" and the Muslims start pointing fingers at us and
blaming us for everything? Remember, your Christ was a Jew.
Sheila| 2.24.11 @ 2:27PM
Find those boulders on your shoulders heavy, much, Sam? Read a
bit more carefully, and you might note that I did not "blame"
anything specifically on Jews, but rather noted that their heavy
involvement with unions and Hollywood is behind the romanticizing
of unions in America, which is what Fabrizio's column is about. I'm
well aware "my" Christ and Saviour was of Jewish heritage; as I
note in my comment, I am as well. You might consider trying to live
outside of a psychological ghetto and without a persecution
complex; it would do wonders for your worldview, not to mention the
logic and reasoning (or lack thereof) in your comments.
VBMax| 2.24.11 @ 8:17PM
Some wise man a while back, don't recall who it was, had it
right: "There are only 2 types of people, the decent and the
indecent".
All other distinctions are unnecessary and frankly just a
distraction from the task at hand. We're all in this together.
Brian Mc| 2.24.11 @ 2:38PM
Not a single individual speaks for everyone on this site, Sam.
With that said, your point is well taken, but for the last one.
He's your "Christ" too, whether you care to believe it, or not. I'm
a Christian and disdain the thought of anyone being impuned for
being successful. "Thou shalt not covet thy neigbor's goods" comes
to mind each and every time.
gearjammer| 2.24.11 @ 5:10PM
These Christians are the only hope Israel has against the
Muslims.
wake up fella!
Al Adab| 2.24.11 @ 10:55AM
In my simplistic world, although I once joined the UAW (had to
in order to work, go figure) it never made sense that The UNION
spoke for workers. Is there not an implied contract between worker
and owner? I give 40 hours a week, he writes me a check. Beyond
that why should I expect anything? All that the union mentality
seems to foster is dissention and discontent. It pits people
against one another based on a artificial class distinction and
makes work, which should be rewarding and fulfiling, seem more an
example of subjugation.
That being said what purpose do public emplyee unions serve?
There is no right to strike by public employees. They are well
compensated for their time and knowledge. They should see
themselves as servants not enforcers of mandates and rules. No one
is indispensible even if the functionalists think differently.
JayPitsby| 2.24.11 @ 10:59AM
I gotta get me a gummint job!
Richard| 2.24.11 @ 11:57AM
Call the years of 2008 to 2012 "The Era When the Left Was
Exposed" for they are there for all to see just like cockroaches
when you turn on the light. Let's hope the Republicans, the "stupid
party" are able to take advantage.
Pat| 2.24.11 @ 12:26PM
For government workers, the chances of actually calling a strike
is on the order of catastrophic global warming occurring within the
next five minutes – the politicians are usually impatient to give
in and meet their union’s demands – primarily so they can discuss
how the union will support them come next election. And real
strikes can sometimes resemble our Civil War campaigns – ugly,
drawn out, painful affairs. Take Detroit and their periodic UAW
strikes as an example. A strike might last for weeks, the strike
fund would rapidly deplete, the auto workers forced to sell their
prized possessions in order to make ends meet and their wives would
become thoroughly sick of seeing them laying around the house.
Sadly, all those toys purchased with the auto workers’ overtime,
double overtime and triple overtime, cost of living pay for working
an extra half shift on bowling nights will be put on the auction
block by the strikers - the brand new Ski-Doo, the bass boat, the
Harley motorcycle, the RV, the 2 room ice fishing shanty – and
these items will be sold for a fraction of their value because all
the other UAW members are selling similar toys – talk about a
buyers market. Sometimes it took years for the UAW members to
recover financially, even with their new contract’s higher pay and
bennies. But ask a UAW guy to do the math and the response will be
we went on strike for the principle of solidarity, not the money –
some of those numbskulls actually believed that.
So maybe we should require govt. workers to go on strike for a
period of 8 to 10 weeks when new contracts become due, just like
those UAW guys. Of course there will be few tangible benefits for
their employers, the taxpayers, but there will be a few. Think of a
picket line, waving signs and envision the potential
advantages.
You can finally get some one on one time with your kid’s teacher
by offering to carry her picket sign.
Stop signs – we don’t need no stinking stop signs.
My neighbor’s dog used to bark for hours whenever they went away
– and then during the police strike he suddenly stopped –
permanently.
Our state senator joined his fellow legislators on the picket
line – my daughter is a government intern this semester – I finally
feel like she’s safe from molestation.
That ugly shed and those rusty cars my neighbor keeps in his
back yard, they somehow caught fire, the fire dept. was called but
they were on strike, everything burned to a crisp – what a
shame.
I decided the due date for my state income tax return would be
moved to June 30th – any objections from you picketers?
Anthony| 2.24.11 @ 12:29PM
It was good to see James Hoffa Jr. last night on MSNBC or CNN, I
forget which, because I didn't hang around long enough, doing his
thing in Wisconsin for his public sectors brothers and
sisters.
At least we know this Hoffa isn't buried at the new Giant's stadium
in N.J., unlike that paragon of union virtue, Jimmy Hoffa Sr.
VinnieCCT| 2.24.11 @ 1:28PM
(has anyone else thought of this?)
What will happen when the union protesters start to riot and the
union police and union firefighters refuse to work? I'm thinking
National Guard action.
Anthony| 2.24.11 @ 5:04PM
I'm thinking, buy more ammo.
PolishKnight| 2.24.11 @ 1:44PM
I just had an interesting insight about the connection between
unions and the government.
Unions and socialism work in similar ways: They promise to help
their workers get better pay and conditions but ultimately, the
union bosses wind up scuttling the whole thing. It's simply a
matter of the corrupting nature of power.
Just as unions destroyed manufacturing sectors and ultimately
the jobs of their workers like a bubonic plague, they are now
threatening the very security of the government and the nation. In
the case of the USSR, the whole thing just collapsed.
But now... with the close marriage between public sector unions
and socialism, is it possible that we might have a more peaceful
transition of socialist collapse?
History reveals that socialists don't go after the "rich" as
they claim but ultimately scapegoat other groups: In Germany, it
was Jews and in the USSR it was a series of political and ethnic
based purges. Here in the states, the left has neatly cut ties to
working class whites and men. Now... they're going to target
non-union, non-public workers which comprise a LOT of people and
voters.
Looks like Al Franken's team is going to be stuffing a lot of
ballot boxes...
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 2.24.11 @ 6:58PM
That's interesting. I like goldwater's thoughts on unions.
Before public unions existed he talked about how private unions are
the only monopoly that is allowed america. No other entity is
allowed to control and monopolize an entire market segment. Think
about it. The UAW goes across ford, gm, chrysler. That's the big
3.
I cant support any union in america. I think they are
unnecessary. Unsafe working conditions are counterproductive at its
most basic level. Any operations manager worth a lick recognizes
that it. Its common sense you want your employees healthy and ready
to work.
And when it comes to wages and benefits, the simpletons don't
understand that labor is a market with shortages and surpluses just
like any other. Anyone who has taken a couple entry level econ
classes should know this. When wages are set artificially high, it
usually creates a labor surplus (work deficit) bc ppl lose jobs
when companies aren't profitable. If wages are set too low, the
company will have a labor deficit, bc the labor can go elsewhere
for a better wage. Any company with a future is competing for the
best employees. Period.
Brian B| 2.24.11 @ 1:44PM
Why is it when discussing Norma Rae it is seldom discussed that
the unionization of textile workers, like the unionization of most
industries, did little in the the long run to improve the lives of
its workers because the industries effected were soon driven
overseas?
Sheila| 2.24.11 @ 2:30PM
Excellent point, but certain to be ignored by others bemoaning
the "evil rich" manufacturers.
MacDaddy| 2.24.11 @ 1:57PM
Fix the title block...public unions not pubic unions, unless the
slip was freudian?
Willy| 2.24.11 @ 2:33PM
Despite the impression given in the media, public sector unions
are a fairly recent burden on the body politic. Most government
union locals didn't exist before the 1960s. They still shouldn't
exist. The logic of collective bargaining is based upon an
assumption that both parties will negotiate in good faith AND that
labor and management will pursue their own self interest. In the
private sector this makes sense. In government, there is little or
no incentive for government managers to protect the interests of
their employer(us). So it should come as no surprise that
outlandish labor agreements have been agreed to by them and their
political bosses. The relationship between these two parties is
fatally flawed, just like the whole concept of government
unions.
Joe D.| 2.24.11 @ 3:54PM
Well said Lisa. However, maybe we are being to simplic that it
was all unions that cause these manufacting industries to collaspe.
I sure they were greatly responsible, but not all.
Again thanks for your insight.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 2.24.11 @ 6:40PM
Simplistic? In what respect?
Sometimes things are very simple if you take a "view from 30,000
ft". Take a look at the american auto manufacturer. They are going
bankrupt because of benefit plans that were sealed following wwII
in the largest automobile boom in history. The unions went around
to all of the major auto manufacturers in the states and threatened
to have their factories striking while the other guys (who they
were also threatening the same) were cashing in. This is how they
secured the benefits packages that cause an american vehicle to
have a higher cost than any car in the world before the first screw
is turned.
In the meantime, name a foriegn car manufacturer that is NOT
building a factory in the states or already making them here. I beg
you. Bmw, kia, toyota, etc. THEY ARE MAKING MORE MONEY BY MOVING
OPERATIONS HERE. PERIOD. OR THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING IT.
So I repeat my question from above, in what respect is her
argument simplistic?
It sounds to me you're projecting your own knowledge, which is
simplistic.
Pat| 2.24.11 @ 4:47PM
In addition to Chrysler’s claim they are now exporting cars to
us from that new nation called “Detroit”, the Detroit Free Press is
crowing about GM’s latest huge profit – see you skeptics, GM fought
its way back from the grave all on its own – thank-you very much.
And did you hear that GM’s hourly workers will receive a $4,300
profit sharing bonus – see you skeptics, unions do help the working
man after all. And before you puff up like a toad claiming it was
us taxpayers who made GM magically profitable - settle down – yes,
technically Obama did take our money without first asking and he
did give it to the UAW via a GM bailout - and all so the
autoworkers could have jobs and get profit sharing. But, legally,
you and I had absolutely nothing to do with it. Kinda humiliating
for us it’s true, the autoworkers buy new snowmobiles and big
screen televisions and we don’t even receive a half dozen roses
after this one night stand.
But that’s the way it is with private sector unions. When the
going gets tough, the rules are changed and the going gets smooth
again. Sure, we could have let GM stagger off to take its place in
history, GM’s workers could have tried for new jobs at Ford, life
would have gone on. But that meant less votes and money for the
Dems courtesy of the UAW, so a rule change was needed, a legal
bailout was quickly devised. And the public sector unions don’t
even bother with the pretense of adversarial bargaining along with
the risk they might not get their next contract increase. So, will
the public sector unions get broken up, will us taxpayers triumph?
Nah, that’s a sweet dream, but it’s against the rules.
gearjammer| 2.24.11 @ 5:25PM
In Rhode Island we have quite a violent union history. The
potential is there for more of the same. I have tended bar in
places were union types-bosses and leaders hang. Also, along with
their political pals they yakked pretty freely and I heard it all.
A white crowd of course and not so Jewish, either. The racism and
Antisemitism was overwhelming. And sexist attitudes towards women ?
Off the charts. Mostly I was dismayed by their grim, dark, ugly
view of life and people. They lacked humanity-save for their own
little clique. I am convinced most union leaders are troubled,
angry, twisted men and women. They are a basic negative personality
type that any sane person who wishes for success in any endeavor
should avoid at all costs. I also tended bar at swank country
clubs.
the upper crust types are not saints, but clearly had more
integrity and decency and humanity.
Handy| 2.25.11 @ 12:10PM
The union goons talk the same way when they are sober. They
slobber a little bit less, but they remain just as stupid, and
brutal.
Kingofthenet| 2.24.11 @ 9:25PM
If you Neocons get your way, there WILL be Blood, Yours, We have
HAD IT. You destroy the last refuge for an average Joe, to make a
good living, it's going to be the 'New American' Revolution.
tdiinva| 2.25.11 @ 8:22AM
err...we have the guns. You don't. Not only can't you count the
gold, you can't count the bullets either.
Handy| 2.25.11 @ 12:16PM
Dear Queenie,
Go give Trumka a BJ, you union fairy.
Dee SEE| 2.24.11 @ 11:27PM
----The TOTAL spectrum dominance by the
'Big Boys' of World Government and Eugenics
Central really moot this entire 70's Show take.
Stop pitching such off moment, off reality,
sterile agenda set-ups!
----IT's the RED China sellout, EUEGNICS and
TREASON thing dummies!
-------TREEEEEEEEE----ZUN
----TREEEE--SON
----TREASON---
GOT IT?
Marc Jeric| 2.25.11 @ 1:22AM
History has shown that, invariably, given time every union will
fall into the hands of either the Mafia or the communists - this
latter case more durable and more deadly. Every industry in which
the union "works" will eventually die - see steel, automobile,
textile, electronics, apparel...Such private industries can save
themselves by oursourcing. But what about government employees
unions? These should be prosecuted under RICO laws as being
criminal enterprises conspiring against the people.
Tom in Michigan| 2.25.11 @ 8:40AM
We conservatives need to handle this gingerly. The majority of
public employees are good, decent, hard-working Americans. Over the
years, I knew all my childrens' teachers, some quite well as I also
volunteered and studied with some of them. The cops and firemen in
my town here in Michigan with whom I've interacted have all been
true professionals - even when I was stopped by an officer. That
there are some bad apples is an inescapable fact. I think it's a
serious mistake to attack the rank-and-file. Remember, the majority
of teachers did not go to the Capital in Madison to demonstrate,
regardless of the what the corrupt, leftist media tell you.
At the same time, we cannot let the public sector unions
bankrupt our government entities the way the private sector
brethren bankrupted so many private industries. In the same sense
though that the average private sector worker is an American, just
like you and me; we need to reach an accomodation where all
Americans prosper once again which means we need to reign in the
corrupt leadership of the unions while protecting our fellow
citizens' livelihood. After all, this is America.
Apparently you don't follow your own comment:
"N.B. We encourage readers to share and discuss their thoughtful
and relevant comments about this Spectator article. Comments are
routinely monitored and will be deleted if profane, bigoted, or
grossly impolite. Please be respectful. (And don't feed the
trolls!) Thank you."
Thought I was reading Faux News
This is just as fair and balanced... hope this isn't too "grossly
impolite" for your censors.
"Sheila| 2.24.11 @ 10:53AM
Part of the reason for the "unions are all-American" meme is that
it is part of the Jewish-American fable. The victims of the
Triangle fire were predominantly Jewish; many of the early, radical
union leaders were Jewish as well. Norma Rae? Her union rep
"savior" happened to be a northeast Jew as well. Of course, all
those pro-union movies have been made by Jewish-run Hollywood. This
is intricately intertwined with this country's leftist recasting of
history. Many may think of Jimmy Hoffa when they think of unions,
but a great deal of the money and muscle behind today's unions
(SEIU/Andy Stern, anyone?) is Jewish. Spare me the usual "you
hateful anti-Semite" garbage, folks; these are facts, and FWIW,
while I am a Christian, I am of Jewish heritage. However, I am a
conservative, not a right-liberal movement Republican, and I deal
with facts and reason, not emotion and PC restrictions."
I'd hate to see such "deep thinking" go un acknowledged...got a
lot of hate going on this page, and I'm not going to try to scratch
the surface of Fabrizio's commentary. Have a nice life and try to
get along...good grief.
That being said what purpose do public emplyee unions serve?
There is no right to strike by public employees. They are well
compensated for their time and knowledge. They should see
themselves as servants not enforcers of mandates and rules. No one
is indispensible even if the functionalists think differently.
Clint| 2.24.11 @ 6:27AM
Big Government Union Parasite Leeches are sucking up confiscated American Taxpayers' Money .
Rise Up In Rebellion.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
vtwin| 2.24.11 @ 2:30PM
"I'm not taking a side on this, I'm just telling you what's going on...to pretend this is about a fiscal crisis in the state of Wisconsin is malarkey" --Shepard Smith of FOX "NEWS"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....27547.html
Damn, you go girl!
Clint| 2.24.11 @ 3:10PM
The Teachers Union is doing for American Education what The Autoworkers Union did for The American Auto Industry & The Steelworkers Union did for The American Steel Industry.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Rise Up.
Redstateboy| 2.24.11 @ 4:35PM
BooYaa!! Brilliant Piece!! It dawned on me that Lisa Fabrizio is absolutely correct in that Hooeywood has been giving us 60+ years of Unions Good - Business Eeeville BS. I'm a witness to what Unions did to Buffalo, NY. in just 50 years turning that City from an Industrial Giant to a Welfarite/Slave Party enclave of Poverty, Crime, Corruption and ignorance.
Redstateboy| 2.24.11 @ 4:39PM
those 15 year twits protesting with their (cough, cough) "Teachers" and parents in Madison, 15 years from now, when they're bust'n it to put gas in their Cars, food on their tables and pay their bills AND having 50 cents on every dollar they earn confiscated by the Government can recall back when their own Teachers and Parents used them as Pawns.
Alan Brooks| 2.25.11 @ 12:22AM
You want to set a right-wing welfare state, no one is fooled anymore.
But do what you have to do, this is your country.
CRM| 2.24.11 @ 9:59PM
Shep Smith is an expert on the state of economics in Wisconsin apparently. I have lived in WI all my life and we are broke. Broke. No money. The average teacher salary + benefits at Milwaukee Public Schools just went over $100,000. Its about the money.
Turnditch| 2.24.11 @ 6:40AM
The Hollywood comparison angle is one I hadn't thought of Ms. Fabrazio.
I have to admit that every time I've seen a pro-government-employee-union person being interviewed by the media in Madison, poor ole downtrodden Norma Rae never enters my mind.
Great read ma'am...
Ryatto| 2.24.11 @ 6:52AM
Miss Lisa, Yankee fan, hit this one so far it would have cleared the facade in the old Stadium. Love her on sports, religion, but her political columns are primo. If she wasn't such a baseball fan I'd try to talk her into moving down to Tennessee.
MikeD| 2.24.11 @ 7:40AM
Apparently elections only have consequences when Republicans lose them. Even though I get more furious by the day as the travesty of thuggery and democratic arrogance escalates in Wisconsis, Indiana and Ohio, with every passing day the possiblity that the criminal tactics will actually work gets more likely.
Every day that passes gives the media wing of the socialist party more time to spin and lie; until it could finally become so untenable for the party that actually won the election that they will give up. Frankly, signs of weakened resolve are appearing every day; as symbolized by Mitch Daniels surrender.
It has also proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the democratic party and their two allies, the media and the crooked unions, is no more than an arm of organized crime. The time is past for the Republicans to start waging real political war. They should use every weapon in their arsenal. Paychecks for fleeing representatives should be witheld; and the remaining representatives should pass every legally possible law to crush the democrats by party and the fugitives individually. If it hasn't dawned on the GOP, the democrats have declared total war on the Republicans and the American people; and are brazenly attempting to negate the results of the most important election since Reconstruction. We'd better fight back with the same tactics or it's all over.
Thunderbottom| 2.24.11 @ 9:36AM
For one sector of government workers, namely, the military, penalties are imposed if members go AWOL (or UA - "Unexcused absence" - for sailors and Marines). I remember hearing squeals of outrage from feckless sailors who, upon receiving their paychecks after being UA for a few days, discovered that their pay had been docked for the time they had been absent from their duty stations. This was in addition to any punitive penalties imposed by their commanding officers at "Captain's Mast" - non-judicial punishment (they could forfeit up to a half-month's pay for two months). If such measures are good enough for our servicepeople, then they should be good enough for our civil service workers and legislators.
MikeD| 2.24.11 @ 10:25AM
Excellent Comment. Besides, our men and women in uniform are so far above the crybabies and thugs that compose our public employee unios they're not even in the same universe.
Bob Knutson| 2.25.11 @ 5:48AM
Amen, Brother. My pay was always held down because of the future benefits I would recieve.
Now, in retirement, if I didn't have another source of income, I would literally starve, or be on welfare.
tatosian| 2.24.11 @ 7:43PM
You're right.
The Democrats and the unions have gone all in in Wisconsin and we're seeing, once again, the Republicans (excepting Gov. Scott Walker) getting ready to fold.
It seems that everyone, including the citizens of Wisconsin, are just waiting around for an outcome.
Isn't there something the citizens of Wisconsin can do to show their support for either Walker or the unions and so end this sideshow?
I mean, their legislature has been shut down by union demonstrators, their schools have been shut down and some of their legislators have skipped town. This is serious stuff.
Where are the citizens?
Handy| 2.24.11 @ 8:04AM
Lisa, you have encapsulated the essence of Unionism. It was bad enough when it was limited to the private sector, but when it metasticized and invaded the public sector, it became well-nigh incurable.
It is good to remember that most violence against the owners of mines, wells, factories and transporation companies was initiated by unionists of the past. That's what happens when ignorance is set ablaze by demogoguery. Expect to see violence against public facilities in the near future as the goons of the public sector rise up. For the children, of course.
This brings up another point. Unionists are cowards. We abhor it when terrorists and other "nogoodniks" use human shields, but unionists get a free pass when they play the sympathy/victim card. They make a big deal out of "Solidarity," but they are really just hiding behind their skirts and those of others. On a personal level, they are just plain afraid of hard work. Cowards.
I sincerely hope that recent events are the beginning of the end of public sector unionism. Specifically, I hope that they are the death knell of all public education, which has failed so miserably everywhere it has been tried. Socialism, anyone?
The cancer that is uni0nism has had 80-90 years to sweep our nation. It has left a lot of private corpses in its wake. We can only wish that it will kill off public education and bloated bureaucracies as effectively as it did big steel and automobiles.
Without radical surgery, the body politic is doomed to a tragically painful death. Thanks unions.
Louis Jenkins| 2.24.11 @ 8:46AM
There is a big difference now adays between what was unions and now what is unions. I can still remember the old folks talking about union movements being busted by gun fire. Now the shoe appears to be on the other foot. Only this time it is the taxpayers who are footing the bill. Maybe the taxpayers should note the old fashion way of dealing with the unions.
MikeD| 2.24.11 @ 9:10AM
Louis,
Your point is well taken. There was a time that the unions were a necessity, and not just because of the terrible tactics of the owners and managers, but for economic reasons too.
One of the reasons the Great Depression (Although I can never understand how a depression or a war could EVER be called "Great") happened was because the laborers were so poorly paid that they couldn't even buy the products they were making in the factories where they worked. Along with the plethora of protective tariffs that arose to protect each country's markets, the lack of hard currency circulating advanced the conditions that caused the collapse of the economy. Of course, these are just a few of the many things that caused the depression, but they were certainly factors.
The situation is almost the exact reverse today. The out of control public employee unions, and the cycle of using union dues to fund democratic party causes is the most dangerous development in our times because it effectively perpetuates the conrol of the democrats who have clearly demonstrated their basic philosophy of doing ANYTHING to gain, and hold, power. The cycle has to be broken or our Country is dead. It is quite clear that obama and his fellow thugs don't give one damn about the damage or the impression they are making in the minds of voters. They can do this because they know that, if they get their way on this, ELECTIONS WILL NOT MATTER. As our 'Thug in Chief, barry the muslim famously, and arrogantly sneered, "ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. Unless, of course, you happen to be a Republican. Then, it's screw you! We'll do what we damn well please because we know you don't have the stones to stop us. Oh, also, because, the longer we hold out, the more time our media wing will have to mold public opinion". At least now all America can clearly see the distain the democrats have for the electoral process.
The Bishop| 2.24.11 @ 8:51AM
I am a recently retired federal employee. I was part of the management structure for about 15 years of my career and a member of a public sector union for a good part of my non-management career (National Treasury Employees Union - NTEU).
I left the union in the latter stages of my career because I witnessed first-hand the corrupting power given to it by agency management and the way in which the union used it. When I was a manager and attempted to deal with unproductive and incompetent employees, the union was there every step of the way working to keep the unproductiveness and incompetence in its place. And every political season, it was no secret which national party was favored by the union and which it supported. And one fact that I've seen no where is that some federal union employees in each state are allowed to devote 100% of their workday to union activities but paid their regular federal salaries. So the taxpayer is unwittingly funding the functionaries of these unions.
Public employee unions are corrupt, bloated, and (dare I say?) evil. I hope that Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio and the other state leaders serve their constituency and their budgets by eliminating the corrupting influence of collective bargaining. Great article, Lisa.
Brian Mc| 2.24.11 @ 8:55AM
"Hoffa" was a pretty scary look into the corruption and greed associated with the mindset unionists hold when they feel their fight is right and it's those 'others' who are evil.
The bitterness, spite, malice, vindictiveness and outrage that the left feels is justified as they fight the 'good' fight [because if they see fit to fight 'it' it must be good] is at times, fun to watch, scary and yet quite sad as it proves the narrow-mindedness inherent to their causes. They're always willing to get along, just so long as it's their boot on the throats of conservatives. Once the order is reversed, the screeching and howling is comical and we can only hope that swing voters are paying attention at this detestable show of self-centeredness. "Screw the country, just so long as I get mine" attitudes will hopefully wake up those who have yet to see the light of what is really occurring-what is truly at stake up in Madison...and they will finally, and willfully and permanently start voting for the revival of this Republic.
Seek| 2.24.11 @ 11:17AM
About the movie, "Hoffa" (1992): Danny DeVito directed; David Mamet wrote the script. The movie depicted the Teamsters titan in a sympathetic, but not sugarcoated light. Jack Nicholson/Jimmy Hoffa was a crook and a nasty guy, but he did stand up for his people.
There aren't all that many movies about labor unions, but Ms. Fabrizio, given her ignorant and taunting style, could have been expected to overlook "Hoffa." Naturally, in her denunciation of the film about the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, she conveniently overlooks the fact that this wasn't just about women "leaping" to their deaths. This was a terrible fire that killed more than 100 persons, an event by the way which happened exactly one century ago, in 1911. Lisa Fabrizio is a disgrace to TAS.
CalMark| 2.24.11 @ 4:20PM
Seek: only an unreconstructed, brainwashed Leftist could call Lisa Fabrizio's writing "ignorant and taunting." It's pretty mild, compared to the rants and nastiness of liberals like--say, for instance--you.
Anyone who even remotely understands literary devices (you obviously don't, probably a result of being taught by public school Union teachers) sees the passages you condemn as exagerration in the service of a larger point.
And anyway, Seek, it takes a lot of nerve to say what you do. The Left mantras "let's not pass judgment" and "let's get both sides of the story" are notably absent from your intolerant, strident post.
Seek| 2.24.11 @ 4:47PM
In the minds of people like you, an insult or a threat is usually what passes for an idea. Has it occurred to you that a conservative who takes issue with another conservative isn't necessarily a "Leftist?" There is nothing intolerant about pointing out that Ms. Fabrizio's post was long on aggression and short on facts.
So I've got "nerve?" Good. I'm hoping I can preserve as much it as I can.
Le Cracquere| 2.24.11 @ 11:54PM
Ms. Fabrizio overlooked nothing relevant about the Triangle fire. She simply pointed out the truth: the Left battened onto a terrible disaster in which many innocent lives were lost. The sequel was mass unionization. One of history's ironies: the undeserved deaths of honest workers resulted in a tsunami of dishonest quasi-workers, newly protected against disasters now abundantly deserved.
Stomry| 2.24.11 @ 9:09AM
Jack Nicholson's movie "Hoffa" did not exactly show the unions in a good light. Interestingly, it also showed Robert Kennedy as a bit of a showboating jerk.
Anthony| 2.24.11 @ 4:25PM
Hoffa knew lowlifes when he saw them. To his credit, he was right about the Kennedys, they were bigger dirtballs than he was.
Since Hoffa was a bluecollar stiff, and not a lace-curtain shanty Irish with a Harvard degree, I'll put Hoffa above the Kennedys anyday.
xRedcoat| 2.24.11 @ 9:34AM
While most of the media are reflecting on Pres. Ronald Reagan's stand against the air traffic controllers, they should also acknowledge his accomplishments as president of Hollywood's Screen Actors Guild. He headed the initial negotiations that ultimately resulted in the first pension and health plan for SAG members.
That demonstrates both benefits and risks associated with union representation. When it comes to public sector unions, it’s a two-edged sleep-fest - - less about benefits and more about greed and power.
As documented on ballotpedia.org, the NEA, SEIU, AFSCME, AFL-CIO and numerous subsidiaries, promote candidates, legislation and regulations that are detrimental to a robust economy and good education.
When they have a community organizer in the White House that they visit two and three days a week, its down right dangerous.
These are lessons learned when the Trade Union Complex is allowed to proliferate and dictate not only who gets to work where and for how much, but also who represents them at the bargaining table and ballot box.
Let’s applaud British PM Margaret Thatcher's resolve to stand up against the Trade Unions when they unleashed a full economic assault on the British economy and brought the country to its knees. The people rallied behind Thatcher and the unions had to back down.
Scott Walker has taken a page from her book. We finally have a political executive with the backbone to stand fast for the Wisconsin populous, it couldn’t have started in a better place.
This economic cancer caused by the Trade Union Complex has to be surgically removed and their ability to spend hard earned member dollars on political ambition curtailed once and for all.
It starts in Wisconsin. Hopefully it will end with Democratic stronghold California.
RacerJim| 2.24.11 @ 11:47AM
"Elections have consequences."
"We won."
"They can come along for the ride but they'll have to sit in the back (of the bus)."
Amazing the Democrat's hypocrisy.
David T| 2.24.11 @ 9:42AM
Excellent piece, Ms. Fabrizio. Public sector unions should be outlawed.
Thunderbottom| 2.24.11 @ 9:49AM
"Although the dirty dealings between pubic section unions..." I also noticed the same typo in the title on the home page. While unintentional, it's apropos: the "pubic sector" unions are like a bad case of blood-sucking crab lice, causing extreme discomfort in both the local and national economies.
Kris Lepine| 2.24.11 @ 9:57AM
I married into a union family. My father in law lost his hearing due to unsafe working conditions in Canada in the 1930's. He found work, opportunity and safety when he can to the USA in the 1940's and joined a union. That has been totally corrupted in the last 60 years in all unions. The Detroit Carpenters District Council union rep is in federal prison for stealing millions of hard working men and womens dues money for his own gain. I listened to speech after speech in the years my husband was involved as a union rep and they never deviated from the topic (and probably still say).......vote Democrat because the Republicans will break the unions. America, the unions have "broken" themselves. Thank God my husband got out in the mid 1990's as the corruption is rampant everywhere you look.
Here's what's pitiful about the liberals. They can show and preach hatred of their fellow countrymen and by force, if necessary, demand "their rights", while at the same time they "coddle" militant jihidists who are out to kill us. We are told to be tolerent, understanding, turn the other cheek and they will love us. Hmmmmm, doesn't seem to be working.
The only way to limit the unions powerful strangle hold over this country is to vote Republican.
David| 2.24.11 @ 10:08AM
Im pretty sure there a couple of biopics of Hoffa that pretty well slam the Teamsters for being fairly corrupt.
WillyP| 2.24.11 @ 10:34AM
Where is the union for the taxpayer, and why wasn't he at the table when the contract was negotiated? Oh, that's right, our union is called Government, and the Dems were in charge at the time.
Al Adab| 2.24.11 @ 10:57AM
Hence the TEA Party. Somehow voters much defend their own dollars. Perhaps we could call the TEA Party our union, set it up that way, pay dues and see how The Left reacts. Interesting idea.
jon| 2.24.11 @ 10:50AM
People want Walker to come clean, and well he should. Walker is union-busting, and it's for the long-term good of his budget. I wish he'd just say it.
Meanwhile, the union organizers could admit something of their own - without unions, Democrats will no longer be elected in most of the country. And that's what this is really all about.
Jon
www.gutfeelingbook.com
Sheila| 2.24.11 @ 10:53AM
Part of the reason for the "unions are all-American" meme is that it is part of the Jewish-American fable. The victims of the Triangle fire were predominantly Jewish; many of the early, radical union leaders were Jewish as well. Norma Rae? Her union rep "savior" happened to be a northeast Jew as well. Of course, all those pro-union movies have been made by Jewish-run Hollywood. This is intricately intertwined with this country's leftist recasting of history. Many may think of Jimmy Hoffa when they think of unions, but a great deal of the money and muscle behind today's unions (SEIU/Andy Stern, anyone?) is Jewish. Spare me the usual "you hateful anti-Semite" garbage, folks; these are facts, and FWIW, while I am a Christian, I am of Jewish heritage. However, I am a conservative, not a right-liberal movement Republican, and I deal with facts and reason, not emotion and PC restrictions.
Franco| 2.24.11 @ 12:58PM
I am a card-carrying member of the International Jewish Conspiracy (Pornographers/Bankers/Lawyers/Moneylenders Local 666).
You are plainly onto us.
We will break you.
Actually, the connection between unionism and Jewishness is plain. The 19th-centry influx of Eastern European Jews was of a people highly persecuted, economically and politically, in their former countries. Thus impoverished, sticking together in numbers was second nature. Other than that, I can't even imagine what your point is.
Sam Levi| 2.24.11 @ 1:37PM
Why is it that whenever a Jew is successful, so called "Christians" and the Muslims start pointing fingers at us and blaming us for everything? Remember, your Christ was a Jew.
Sheila| 2.24.11 @ 2:27PM
Find those boulders on your shoulders heavy, much, Sam? Read a bit more carefully, and you might note that I did not "blame" anything specifically on Jews, but rather noted that their heavy involvement with unions and Hollywood is behind the romanticizing of unions in America, which is what Fabrizio's column is about. I'm well aware "my" Christ and Saviour was of Jewish heritage; as I note in my comment, I am as well. You might consider trying to live outside of a psychological ghetto and without a persecution complex; it would do wonders for your worldview, not to mention the logic and reasoning (or lack thereof) in your comments.
VBMax| 2.24.11 @ 8:17PM
Some wise man a while back, don't recall who it was, had it right: "There are only 2 types of people, the decent and the indecent".
All other distinctions are unnecessary and frankly just a distraction from the task at hand. We're all in this together.
Brian Mc| 2.24.11 @ 2:38PM
Not a single individual speaks for everyone on this site, Sam. With that said, your point is well taken, but for the last one. He's your "Christ" too, whether you care to believe it, or not. I'm a Christian and disdain the thought of anyone being impuned for being successful. "Thou shalt not covet thy neigbor's goods" comes to mind each and every time.
gearjammer| 2.24.11 @ 5:10PM
These Christians are the only hope Israel has against the Muslims.
wake up fella!
Al Adab| 2.24.11 @ 10:55AM
In my simplistic world, although I once joined the UAW (had to in order to work, go figure) it never made sense that The UNION spoke for workers. Is there not an implied contract between worker and owner? I give 40 hours a week, he writes me a check. Beyond that why should I expect anything? All that the union mentality seems to foster is dissention and discontent. It pits people against one another based on a artificial class distinction and makes work, which should be rewarding and fulfiling, seem more an example of subjugation.
That being said what purpose do public emplyee unions serve? There is no right to strike by public employees. They are well compensated for their time and knowledge. They should see themselves as servants not enforcers of mandates and rules. No one is indispensible even if the functionalists think differently.
JayPitsby| 2.24.11 @ 10:59AM
I gotta get me a gummint job!
Richard| 2.24.11 @ 11:57AM
Call the years of 2008 to 2012 "The Era When the Left Was Exposed" for they are there for all to see just like cockroaches when you turn on the light. Let's hope the Republicans, the "stupid party" are able to take advantage.
Pat| 2.24.11 @ 12:26PM
For government workers, the chances of actually calling a strike is on the order of catastrophic global warming occurring within the next five minutes – the politicians are usually impatient to give in and meet their union’s demands – primarily so they can discuss how the union will support them come next election. And real strikes can sometimes resemble our Civil War campaigns – ugly, drawn out, painful affairs. Take Detroit and their periodic UAW strikes as an example. A strike might last for weeks, the strike fund would rapidly deplete, the auto workers forced to sell their prized possessions in order to make ends meet and their wives would become thoroughly sick of seeing them laying around the house.
Sadly, all those toys purchased with the auto workers’ overtime, double overtime and triple overtime, cost of living pay for working an extra half shift on bowling nights will be put on the auction block by the strikers - the brand new Ski-Doo, the bass boat, the Harley motorcycle, the RV, the 2 room ice fishing shanty – and these items will be sold for a fraction of their value because all the other UAW members are selling similar toys – talk about a buyers market. Sometimes it took years for the UAW members to recover financially, even with their new contract’s higher pay and bennies. But ask a UAW guy to do the math and the response will be we went on strike for the principle of solidarity, not the money – some of those numbskulls actually believed that.
So maybe we should require govt. workers to go on strike for a period of 8 to 10 weeks when new contracts become due, just like those UAW guys. Of course there will be few tangible benefits for their employers, the taxpayers, but there will be a few. Think of a picket line, waving signs and envision the potential advantages.
You can finally get some one on one time with your kid’s teacher by offering to carry her picket sign.
Stop signs – we don’t need no stinking stop signs.
My neighbor’s dog used to bark for hours whenever they went away – and then during the police strike he suddenly stopped – permanently.
Our state senator joined his fellow legislators on the picket line – my daughter is a government intern this semester – I finally feel like she’s safe from molestation.
That ugly shed and those rusty cars my neighbor keeps in his back yard, they somehow caught fire, the fire dept. was called but they were on strike, everything burned to a crisp – what a shame.
I decided the due date for my state income tax return would be moved to June 30th – any objections from you picketers?
Anthony| 2.24.11 @ 12:29PM
It was good to see James Hoffa Jr. last night on MSNBC or CNN, I forget which, because I didn't hang around long enough, doing his thing in Wisconsin for his public sectors brothers and sisters.
At least we know this Hoffa isn't buried at the new Giant's stadium in N.J., unlike that paragon of union virtue, Jimmy Hoffa Sr.
VinnieCCT| 2.24.11 @ 1:28PM
(has anyone else thought of this?)
What will happen when the union protesters start to riot and the union police and union firefighters refuse to work? I'm thinking National Guard action.
Anthony| 2.24.11 @ 5:04PM
I'm thinking, buy more ammo.
PolishKnight| 2.24.11 @ 1:44PM
I just had an interesting insight about the connection between unions and the government.
Unions and socialism work in similar ways: They promise to help their workers get better pay and conditions but ultimately, the union bosses wind up scuttling the whole thing. It's simply a matter of the corrupting nature of power.
Just as unions destroyed manufacturing sectors and ultimately the jobs of their workers like a bubonic plague, they are now threatening the very security of the government and the nation. In the case of the USSR, the whole thing just collapsed.
But now... with the close marriage between public sector unions and socialism, is it possible that we might have a more peaceful transition of socialist collapse?
History reveals that socialists don't go after the "rich" as they claim but ultimately scapegoat other groups: In Germany, it was Jews and in the USSR it was a series of political and ethnic based purges. Here in the states, the left has neatly cut ties to working class whites and men. Now... they're going to target non-union, non-public workers which comprise a LOT of people and voters.
Looks like Al Franken's team is going to be stuffing a lot of ballot boxes...
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 2.24.11 @ 6:58PM
That's interesting. I like goldwater's thoughts on unions. Before public unions existed he talked about how private unions are the only monopoly that is allowed america. No other entity is allowed to control and monopolize an entire market segment. Think about it. The UAW goes across ford, gm, chrysler. That's the big 3.
I cant support any union in america. I think they are unnecessary. Unsafe working conditions are counterproductive at its most basic level. Any operations manager worth a lick recognizes that it. Its common sense you want your employees healthy and ready to work.
And when it comes to wages and benefits, the simpletons don't understand that labor is a market with shortages and surpluses just like any other. Anyone who has taken a couple entry level econ classes should know this. When wages are set artificially high, it usually creates a labor surplus (work deficit) bc ppl lose jobs when companies aren't profitable. If wages are set too low, the company will have a labor deficit, bc the labor can go elsewhere for a better wage. Any company with a future is competing for the best employees. Period.
Brian B| 2.24.11 @ 1:44PM
Why is it when discussing Norma Rae it is seldom discussed that the unionization of textile workers, like the unionization of most industries, did little in the the long run to improve the lives of its workers because the industries effected were soon driven overseas?
Sheila| 2.24.11 @ 2:30PM
Excellent point, but certain to be ignored by others bemoaning the "evil rich" manufacturers.
MacDaddy| 2.24.11 @ 1:57PM
Fix the title block...public unions not pubic unions, unless the slip was freudian?
Willy| 2.24.11 @ 2:33PM
Despite the impression given in the media, public sector unions are a fairly recent burden on the body politic. Most government union locals didn't exist before the 1960s. They still shouldn't exist. The logic of collective bargaining is based upon an assumption that both parties will negotiate in good faith AND that labor and management will pursue their own self interest. In the private sector this makes sense. In government, there is little or no incentive for government managers to protect the interests of their employer(us). So it should come as no surprise that outlandish labor agreements have been agreed to by them and their political bosses. The relationship between these two parties is fatally flawed, just like the whole concept of government unions.
Joe D.| 2.24.11 @ 3:54PM
Well said Lisa. However, maybe we are being to simplic that it was all unions that cause these manufacting industries to collaspe. I sure they were greatly responsible, but not all.
Again thanks for your insight.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 2.24.11 @ 6:40PM
Simplistic? In what respect?
Sometimes things are very simple if you take a "view from 30,000 ft". Take a look at the american auto manufacturer. They are going bankrupt because of benefit plans that were sealed following wwII in the largest automobile boom in history. The unions went around to all of the major auto manufacturers in the states and threatened to have their factories striking while the other guys (who they were also threatening the same) were cashing in. This is how they secured the benefits packages that cause an american vehicle to have a higher cost than any car in the world before the first screw is turned.
In the meantime, name a foriegn car manufacturer that is NOT building a factory in the states or already making them here. I beg you. Bmw, kia, toyota, etc. THEY ARE MAKING MORE MONEY BY MOVING OPERATIONS HERE. PERIOD. OR THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING IT.
So I repeat my question from above, in what respect is her argument simplistic?
It sounds to me you're projecting your own knowledge, which is simplistic.
Pat| 2.24.11 @ 4:47PM
In addition to Chrysler’s claim they are now exporting cars to us from that new nation called “Detroit”, the Detroit Free Press is crowing about GM’s latest huge profit – see you skeptics, GM fought its way back from the grave all on its own – thank-you very much. And did you hear that GM’s hourly workers will receive a $4,300 profit sharing bonus – see you skeptics, unions do help the working man after all. And before you puff up like a toad claiming it was us taxpayers who made GM magically profitable - settle down – yes, technically Obama did take our money without first asking and he did give it to the UAW via a GM bailout - and all so the autoworkers could have jobs and get profit sharing. But, legally, you and I had absolutely nothing to do with it. Kinda humiliating for us it’s true, the autoworkers buy new snowmobiles and big screen televisions and we don’t even receive a half dozen roses after this one night stand.
But that’s the way it is with private sector unions. When the going gets tough, the rules are changed and the going gets smooth again. Sure, we could have let GM stagger off to take its place in history, GM’s workers could have tried for new jobs at Ford, life would have gone on. But that meant less votes and money for the Dems courtesy of the UAW, so a rule change was needed, a legal bailout was quickly devised. And the public sector unions don’t even bother with the pretense of adversarial bargaining along with the risk they might not get their next contract increase. So, will the public sector unions get broken up, will us taxpayers triumph? Nah, that’s a sweet dream, but it’s against the rules.
gearjammer| 2.24.11 @ 5:25PM
In Rhode Island we have quite a violent union history. The potential is there for more of the same. I have tended bar in places were union types-bosses and leaders hang. Also, along with their political pals they yakked pretty freely and I heard it all. A white crowd of course and not so Jewish, either. The racism and Antisemitism was overwhelming. And sexist attitudes towards women ? Off the charts. Mostly I was dismayed by their grim, dark, ugly view of life and people. They lacked humanity-save for their own little clique. I am convinced most union leaders are troubled, angry, twisted men and women. They are a basic negative personality type that any sane person who wishes for success in any endeavor should avoid at all costs. I also tended bar at swank country clubs.
the upper crust types are not saints, but clearly had more integrity and decency and humanity.
Handy| 2.25.11 @ 12:10PM
The union goons talk the same way when they are sober. They slobber a little bit less, but they remain just as stupid, and brutal.
Kingofthenet| 2.24.11 @ 9:25PM
If you Neocons get your way, there WILL be Blood, Yours, We have HAD IT. You destroy the last refuge for an average Joe, to make a good living, it's going to be the 'New American' Revolution.
tdiinva| 2.25.11 @ 8:22AM
err...we have the guns. You don't. Not only can't you count the gold, you can't count the bullets either.
Handy| 2.25.11 @ 12:16PM
Dear Queenie,
Go give Trumka a BJ, you union fairy.
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Marc Jeric| 2.25.11 @ 1:22AM
History has shown that, invariably, given time every union will fall into the hands of either the Mafia or the communists - this latter case more durable and more deadly. Every industry in which the union "works" will eventually die - see steel, automobile, textile, electronics, apparel...Such private industries can save themselves by oursourcing. But what about government employees unions? These should be prosecuted under RICO laws as being criminal enterprises conspiring against the people.
Tom in Michigan| 2.25.11 @ 8:40AM
We conservatives need to handle this gingerly. The majority of public employees are good, decent, hard-working Americans. Over the years, I knew all my childrens' teachers, some quite well as I also volunteered and studied with some of them. The cops and firemen in my town here in Michigan with whom I've interacted have all been true professionals - even when I was stopped by an officer. That there are some bad apples is an inescapable fact. I think it's a serious mistake to attack the rank-and-file. Remember, the majority of teachers did not go to the Capital in Madison to demonstrate, regardless of the what the corrupt, leftist media tell you.
At the same time, we cannot let the public sector unions bankrupt our government entities the way the private sector brethren bankrupted so many private industries. In the same sense though that the average private sector worker is an American, just like you and me; we need to reach an accomodation where all Americans prosper once again which means we need to reign in the corrupt leadership of the unions while protecting our fellow citizens' livelihood. After all, this is America.
Reebok| 8.11.11 @ 2:48AM
is good
Robert the Vet| 11.10.11 @ 2:32AM
Apparently you don't follow your own comment:
"N.B. We encourage readers to share and discuss their thoughtful and relevant comments about this Spectator article. Comments are routinely monitored and will be deleted if profane, bigoted, or grossly impolite. Please be respectful. (And don't feed the trolls!) Thank you."
Thought I was reading Faux News
This is just as fair and balanced... hope this isn't too "grossly impolite" for your censors.
"Sheila| 2.24.11 @ 10:53AM
Part of the reason for the "unions are all-American" meme is that it is part of the Jewish-American fable. The victims of the Triangle fire were predominantly Jewish; many of the early, radical union leaders were Jewish as well. Norma Rae? Her union rep "savior" happened to be a northeast Jew as well. Of course, all those pro-union movies have been made by Jewish-run Hollywood. This is intricately intertwined with this country's leftist recasting of history. Many may think of Jimmy Hoffa when they think of unions, but a great deal of the money and muscle behind today's unions (SEIU/Andy Stern, anyone?) is Jewish. Spare me the usual "you hateful anti-Semite" garbage, folks; these are facts, and FWIW, while I am a Christian, I am of Jewish heritage. However, I am a conservative, not a right-liberal movement Republican, and I deal with facts and reason, not emotion and PC restrictions."
I'd hate to see such "deep thinking" go un acknowledged...got a lot of hate going on this page, and I'm not going to try to scratch the surface of Fabrizio's commentary. Have a nice life and try to get along...good grief.
العاب| 4.11.12 @ 5:23PM
That being said what purpose do public emplyee unions serve? There is no right to strike by public employees. They are well compensated for their time and knowledge. They should see themselves as servants not enforcers of mandates and rules. No one is indispensible even if the functionalists think differently.