There will be only one way to turn the Mideast turmoil to
America's advantage.
Egypt's government has fallen, and no one can tell what will
rise in its place. Those of Yemen, Libya, Bahrain, and even Iran
are threatened by anti-government protest movements of various
strengths. Iraq still teeters on the precipice it has homesteaded
since Saddam's fall. Oh, happy day.
Yes, there are many American interests that may be
affected severely by the protests. If the Bahraini government falls
and its successor is as anti-American as is the fashion among
Islamic states, the Fifth Fleet will have to find a new base from
which to operate in the Middle East, a prospect that is grim to
contemplate. Our ability to project military force in the region
could be severely disrupted.
Some of the protest movements -- especially that in
Bahrain -- which have so far survived murderous suppression, bear
Iran's fingerprints. But the protests in Iran are at least a small
counterweight.
Overall, the protests and the destabilization of these
governments is a boon to American interests, if only we were to
recognize just how that is so and take full advantage of the
opportunity they create.
From Iran in the east to Venezuela in the west, it has
been the fate of peoples who live on oil-rich ground to be governed
by corrupt dictators, despots, rogues and terrorists. With the
exception of Venezuela, all of these despotisms are based on the
same failed Islamic ideology. (Chavez's Venezuela is so closely
tied to Iran in word and deed that its neo-fascist ideology can be
argued to be crypto-Islamic. Chavez's support of Hizballah's
efforts to spread its network in this hemisphere is de
facto support of the Islamic terrorist organization's ideology
as well as its works.)
The protest movements are a rejection of governments
founded on the Islamic ideology that denies freedom on the basis of
religion. It is very much like pre-1789 France and pre-1917 Russia,
which based their despotisms on the divine right of kings. Islamic
ideology carries that idea one step farther, justifying despotism
as a requirement of religion.
But though the Islamic ideology has failed, the protest
movements against its governments have not taken on the burden of
rejecting the religious tenets upon which they are based. For that
reason alone, it is an arrogant assumption that if the protest
movements succeed they will produce a form of government that is
materially different from the ones they overthrow. Which presents
an historic opportunity for us, of which we will certainly fail to
take advantage.
We do not have the ability to control the outcome of the
protests in Islamic states, but if we had the wisdom to confront
the Islamic ideology we could, over time, bring about the
self-examination of Islam that is essential to defeating its
ideology.
It is impossible to engage Muslims in conversation about
their religion without encountering their absolutism. There is only
one Islam, we are told, and there cannot be different
interpretations of its dictates. Even the most moderate of Muslims
insist that the Koran requires an absolute belief that its words
are the words of god, and not subject to debate or difference. By
that demand, Islam prohibits a debate that is fundamental to
freedom of thought and expression.
Why, then, are the protesters massing in Libya and Bahrain
only to be murdered by the governments which proclaim themselves
religiously pure? Why should any religion bar any discussion of the
kind of government it dictates? If people are not free to decide
the social contract that binds them as a nation, shouldn't they be
able to debate why that is so?
It is those questions that we should be asking publicly to
sow doubt among despot and protester alike. Those doubts will not
bear fruit immediately. But if we continue to raise them, and to
reach out to those who are unable or even unwilling now to discuss
them openly, these doubts will result in the self-examination of
the ideology that Islam compels and, inevitably, bring about its
collapse.
Too many will say that to raise these questions, we would
cause the protesters to turn their anger away from the despots that
rule them and toward us. But it is a risk we must take if we are to
ever rid ourselves of the threat of Islamic terrorism.
Since 9/11, we have followed the counsel of those who lack
the courage to face the source of that threat. We have been
unwilling to undertake the ideological war against its root cause.
Ronald Reagan was willing -- indeed eager -- to condemn communism
as evil. But George W. Bush lacked the courage to confront the
Islamic ideology and Barack Obama has banned the terms "jihad" and
"Islamic extremism" (the latter a euphemism for terrorism) from our
statement of national security strategy. Obama will do nothing to
engage in the ideological war the enemy wages against
us.
Every despotism is fragile because it exists at the
sufferance of those it governs. The Islamic despotisms continue
only because they have conflated that sufferance with religious
duty and thereby gained a false consent of the governed. That
consent can be broken by one elementary thought: if the god that
Muslims worship, as their imams preach, is the most generous and
beneficent god, how can Allah be believed to deny the natural right
to free thought and expression that is enjoyed by those who believe
in the god worshipped by Christians and Jews, Hindus and Buddhists?
Or is it the imams and the despots they serve who deny those rights
so that they can cling to power?
It was, at one time, the public policy of the American
people that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable rights, one of which is
liberty. Liberty inherently includes the freedom to question
anyone's interpretation of their religion, to debate it, and to
disagree with it.
In Islam, that is as revolutionary a thought as were
Martin Luther's ideas in his time. Luther inspired the Christian
Reformation. We must inspire one in Islam by reaching out to the
protest movements in the Middle East. Tell them that it is their
right to reject oppression because oppression is an act of man, not
of God. Many will say that statement is blasphemy. But many more
will listen. And whether their protests succeed or fail, the
Islamic ideology will begin to crumble.
About the Author
Jed Babbin served as a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush. He is the author of several bestselling books including Inside the Asylum and In the Words of Our Enemies.
There is one way to get our of that oily Middle East quagmire.
Start drilling in our own yard.
Memyself| 2.21.11 @ 1:40PM
Drilling in our own yard? Where? The only available oil is so
hard to get that it is too expensive and also carries environmental
threats which could destroy regional economies for decades. The
real answer is to begin to develop alternative energy technologies.
There is a market for such technologies, although many are not cost
effective at present. But time and R&D will take care of the
cost. China already is moving to control the alternative energy
market. In 10-20 years, we will certainly notice the cost of our
short sighted oil policies.
Quartermaster| 2.21.11 @ 7:34PM
And in 5 years you will regret your shortsightedness on Oil.
The Chinese are not moving to control "alternative" energy. They
have already pretty much cornered the market on the equipment for
wind and solar electricity. As we know, those are boondoggles that
don't stand a chance of producing anything close to what we need.
Only Oil, Coal, and Nuclear can do that.
Intelligent Design| 2.21.11 @ 8:04PM
We should be building 100 nuclear power plants instead of
spending hundreds of billions to keep troops on the ground in
Afghanistan and Iraq, instead of spending billions on the hoax
called global warming, and instead of giving a dime to the UN
(etc). We could have started construction right after 9/11/01, or
we could have started it 30 years ago. How about tomorrow
morning?
Alan Brooks| 2.21.11 @ 9:52PM
"Jed Babbin served as a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense under
George H.W. Bush."
This is bad news as far as I'm concerned.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.21.11 @ 7:53AM
Jed, I'm very sorry to inform you that Islam cannot
"reform".
Think about this carefully for a moment now. (Islam has tapped
into one of humanity's most powerful urges. Call it
"irresponsibility", call it "the slave mentality", call it "I know
it all and it is all settled." call it, "not my fault". call it "I
have Allah's permission to kill you".)
These are just a few phrases that can perhaps get your writing
juices going. They are informing my current novel.
JP| 2.21.11 @ 8:13AM
Islam offers something to the world that the West cannot match.
Perhaps there is something deep in our pysche that desires to be
dominated. But, this Master-Slave religion is much better at
evangelizing than Christianity. From Niger to Thailand; from Canada
to the Phillipines, Islam continues to outpace Christianity in
growth.
Perhaps the trend began with the diluting of classical Christian
theology. Both Protestant and Catholic theology and practice in
recent decades has resembled therapy sessions and political pep
rallies. Christianity no longer speaks to a person's soul. Islam
for all of its problems cannot be accused of this dilution. In
Christianity, preachers talk about "values"; in Islam, they talk
about Good and Evil. In Europe today, the young are now more likely
to convert to Islam than re-convert to Christianity. Something to
ponder.
PJ| 2.21.11 @ 11:01AM
You post as if it is hopeless. Quite frankly it isn't.
The Catholic Church has started a new evangelization
"department" specifically to re-convert Europe. The leaders of
France, Great Britain, & Germany have stated that
multiculturalism is wrong.
Our Evangelical brethren & also the Catholic & Orthodox
churches are making inroads in Islamic countries. For example, a
Catholic university & hospital are in the planning stages to be
built in northern IRAQ!!? (see http://www.catholicherald.co.u.....y-in-iraq/),
Unfortunately news like this will never be covered by the msm nor
are there accurate statistics on the conversion rate from Islam to
Christianity which I believe is huge.
JP| 2.21.11 @ 3:04PM
Hope you are right. I seriously doubt Christianity will spread
in Iraq. The Chaldean Catholics lived in Iraq since the time of St
Thomas (almost 2000 years); in 1940 Egypt's population was 40%
Coptic. And in Lebanon, the Marionite Catholics lived there since
the time of Pentacost. In all of these nations, Christians now make
up barely 5% of the population, and thier numbers dwindle
daily.
In Europe, the good news is that the Muslim population is taking
up the contraceptive habits of thier hosts. Within a generation,
the fertility rates of Muslim expatriates is not much better than
the natives. And in Turkey, the birthrates have falled from about 4
children per female in 1980l to less than 2.5 today. In Iran, it
isn't much better. The bad news is that new immigrants from North
Africa and Pakistan average 4 to 6 children per female. Spain will
cease being Spain in less than 40 years. Ditto for Italy, and ditto
for Greece. The UK isn't far behind. And niether is France or
Belgium.
Judaism was once as intolerant as Islam, slaughtering its
enemies right and left. After all, David received the anointment of
Samuel because Saul failed to kill the cattle---in addition to the
people---of a conquered tribe.
In turn, Christianity once had its despotic stage until
reforming from within. The idea that Islam is unable to reform
flies in the face of history's examples. But it is difficult seeing
it happen until we clearly recognize and name it as an enemy of
civilization, just as was done with Communism and Nazism.
We seem to have been handed an opportunity stemming from the
freeing of Iraq, without which it’s doubtful today’s rebellions
would be happening. Will Obama be wise and bold enough to take
advantage of the chance to be seen as the liberator of the Middle
East as Reagan was the liberator of Eastern Europe---or will he
mimic Reagan in words only, for domestic political gain?
Bob Miller| 2.21.11 @ 11:08AM
When God tells you how to take and defend your country, you
listen. This is a whole other thing than maniacal human efforts at
world domination via Nazism or jihad or whatever. Anyone who
remembers WW2 also remembers what extreme actions were needed to
win it for the Allies.
JP| 2.21.11 @ 2:56PM
Islam had its reformation - in 1979. The Muslims Martin Luther
or Saint John of the Cross was the Ayatollah.
Paul Kotik| 2.21.11 @ 9:37AM
Mr. Babbin has almost, almost said it. I can say it, because I
represent only myself.
The one and only way for the West (broadly defined) to survive
this 14 centuries' siege by Islamic expansionism is to defeat it
once and for all. And the only way to do that is to falsify Islam
and, thereby, the ideology that ineluctably devolves from it.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.21.11 @ 10:49AM
Paul,
I think the word you might be looking for is "de-bunk" rather than
"falsify".
In either case, I agree with you.
Paul Kotik| 2.21.11 @ 10:56AM
Ken, what I mean by "falsify" is "to prove to be false". Not
sure if that's the dictionary meaning, but that's what I mean. I
could put what I mean in even stronger, clearer terms - but that
sort of talk frightens young children and the pooches!
Michael L. Hauschild| 2.21.11 @ 11:16AM
You are no more likely to “educate” a Muslim than you are
convincing a social conservative that abortion is subject to
choice. Attrition is the mechanism, individual liberation is the
incremental impetus, and the enlightenment democracy provides
through the burgeoning electronic media will provide the leverage.
Our founding fathers understood the tenants of Religion and
incorporated it into the basis of constitutional morality, that
being the simple premise of the “golden rule.” They also understood
the dangers of a state based on denominational religion. The
“westernization” everyone touts as the wedge to create the
democracy in the Mideast will occur; the dark ages of printing
presses cranking out the only distributable literacy as the Koran
has ended. Reformations are inevitable, as evidenced by our own
emergence from the dark ages and the protestant alternatives. What
they are not is an instantaneous as the despot’s demise. We are
living in historic times.
Leo W| 2.21.11 @ 1:09PM
I'm a social conservative, and choice is OK with me if it means
not epanding the size and power of government by having armed goons
interfere with reproduction choices. If that's all it takes, be
very encouraged by what you see in the middle east.
Paul Kotik| 2.21.11 @ 11:17AM
A question never asked in public, but which events beg and beg,
is whether Islam meets the criteria for treatment as a qualified
religion under United States law. If, for example, it is the case
that a a seditious political ideology is consistent with and
demanded by Islam, then the protections afforded a qualified
religion under the US Constitution are in effect a suicide pact.
Does the US Constitution protect a social order which is
relentlessly bent on nullifying the US Constitution? I think
not.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.21.11 @ 11:44AM
Paul,
I have personally asked...and answered the question in public. See
the web-site
and read chapter one and the foreword. www.texassaidno.com
This is a fight to the death, and it was not the idea of
rational people. It is a fundemental belief in Islam that there is
no legitimate religion BUT Islam. Two houses on earth - one of
Islam, one of everyone else, and to be listed in the latter
category means (according to Islam) you either are killed,
converted, or relegated to a lower status - and live enslaved in
one way or another. I believe that well over 75% of muslims believe
this and always will. In order to reform Islam, there will have to
be a very bloody civil war within Islam, which will be carried out
in every country where Muslims find eachother. And who do you think
will win - those who profess to love death and hate life? Bingo.
Moderate muslims will never win. No one will ever win. You can only
win against fundemental Islam by utterly destroying it and everyone
who believes in it. This is a fight to the death, and it was not
the idea of rational people. YOU CANNOT REASON A MAN OUT OF WHAT HE
WAS NO REASONED INTO.
John M| 2.21.11 @ 12:11PM
Please stop the practice of equating Allah with Yahweh. When the
word God is used please specify whose. Also, Muslims will not
change from their beliefs anymore than I will ever disavow the
primacy of Jesus. The world will only have peace when Jesus returns
and your time and treasures are better spent spreading the
Word.
Memyself| 2.21.11 @ 1:49PM
You do realize that the word "Yahweh" is a mistransliteration of
the Hebrew, don't you?
Quartermaster| 2.21.11 @ 7:41PM
Actually it isn't. It comes from the tetragrammaton YHWH. Hebrew
had no vowels in it's written language (vowel points have been
added since about AD 1000). The "a" and "e" were added later from
teh vowel points, iirc. Now, the German pronunciation yielded what
use in English as "Jehovah." But, that is not a
transliteration.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.21.11 @ 12:28PM
John M.
Well spoken....but pass the ammunition.
bobmontgomery| 2.21.11 @ 12:55PM
Jed,
Instructive was your bringing in Martin Luther.
Kingofthenet| 2.21.11 @ 1:14PM
The problem with Islam isn't that sooner or later it will
moderate,(It Will) but that it will be 'later' than the West can
wait. My plan is somewhat Nefarious but I feel it would work, we
need to 'remove' Imam's who preach violence, and replace them with
our 'puppet's' who although 'Seem' to be just as Anti -West as the
replaced ones, but quickly change their tune to Peace. This would
require a Grand Conspiracy, so I am not sure it's possible. Any way
you do it, you have to 'break' the chain of learning than acting on
violence towards the West.
gary siebel| 2.21.11 @ 1:28PM
What's clear is that you have no clue, as does most of the RW,
apparently, or the liberals, of how to deal with Islam. You
represent that point rather well when you write:
It is impossible to engage Muslims in conversation about their
religion without encountering their absolutism. There is only one
Islam, we are told, and there cannot be different interpretations
of its dictates. Even the most moderate of Muslims insist that the
Koran requires an absolute belief that its words are the words of
god, and not subject to debate or difference. By that demand, Islam
prohibits a debate that is fundamental to freedom of thought and
expression.
Change that to the Bible and Baptist/Evenagelicals (the core of
the Repub Party) and you have exactly the same situation,
precisely, exactly the same to the nth degree.
(Also, trychecking out Don Quixote, the little speech about
Mambrino's Helmet, and about converting Muslims/)
It seems doubtful whether you have even read the Q'uran, Hadith,
or any of the other mountain of philosophy Islam has put out, just
like Christianity, in defense of it's beliefs, which means you have
broken Patton's Rule : know your enemy.
I can drive Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindu's, and Buddhists to
distraction just by using a basic Socratic method of questioning
them, but ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO READ THE SOURCE
MATERIAL, and I get tired of nitwits who haven't but are eager to
provide advise.
Here's a simple question that can be used to rattle any Muslim,
and the answer can be used to drive a wedge into Islam, but only if
you know how; and this is but one example: How does a Muslim
determine prayer times in Alaska in winter?
Now, the answer is that you cannot (because the sun does not
rise above the horizon) yet the imams fudge the position to declare
prayer times should be in accordance with the nearest city that
sees the sun, which is obviously doctrine fabricated out of thin
air. But what it demonstrates is that Islam is a latitude based
religion, an idea that rankles Muslims who wish to conquer the
world. It is but one of many flaws in their doctrine, same as flaws
in Christian doctrine, that adherents gloss over or ignore, unless
you rub their noses in it.
I could go on and on attacking the flaws in religions -- they
are so many and they make such easy targets -- but a key difference
between Islam and Judeo-Christianity, and even Hinduism and
Buddhism, is that Islam remains the only large religion that has
yet to be brought under the heel of civil government, which makes
it the only religion that is my enemy.
The modern Islamic Crusade against US and Europe has a long ways
to go yet because it's cannon fodder is provided by the madrassa's.
Until that cycle is broken the Islamic Crusade will continue (it
should be called that, the Islamic Crusade, but media lacks the
nerve, the same as it lacked the nerve to publish the Muhammad
cartoon).
So far I have yet to hear anyone in politics or media able to
truly aggravate Muslims just by asking them simple questions.
Another example: was Muhammad a man or not? Try that one with a
zealous Muslim and watch the change in their body language as they
consider the ramifications to the fact he was just a man. If they
insist on adding, "may the blessings of peace and prosperity be
upon him" immediately after they say his name, ask if they are able
to say his name, that of a man, without that add-on? Try to pin
them down on why they do that and they will slither and slide the
same as any Christian who tries to explain that Jesus is God. In
fact, to really piss them off, point out that the add-on is no
different than the Christians adding "Christ" after the name of
Jesus. But, of course, a Christian wouldn't think of that point to
use against a Muslim.
And what about that blasted 9/11 mosque?
Quartermaster| 2.21.11 @ 7:52PM
Your ravings are so full of holes it would require a longer
essay than should be posted here to refute it.
I will respond to one bit of stupidity, the adding of Christ
after the name Jesus.
There is nothing untoward about "adding" Christ to Jesus. The
two words "Jesus Christ" (ιησου χριστου in Greek) appears in that
form 550 times in the new Testament. So a Christian wouldn't think
of such a criticism based on your thinking such things are true
because it isn't true. It's been such since the beginning of
Christianity and its scriptures.
It would be better for skeptics as yourself to keep their mouths
shut and not display your utter ignorance on subjects like
religion. You may have "read the source documents," but on just one
point your ignorance has been shown. So, what else have you raved
about that is a fact that just isn't so?
Frankly, I have no desire to embarrass your further, so suffice
it to say, there is far more ignorance in your post. Your lack of
knowledge on Islam alone is also breathtaking.
gary siebel| 2.22.11 @ 3:30PM
By all means refute if you can. Your brief bit of fluff refuted
nothing. Your claim actually proves my point -- there is no
evidence any of the so-called New Testament was written while Jesus
was alive, ergo, "Christ" was added after his death. Spare me your
dogma; stick to historical facts.
Since you claim such a refutation would be too long for here,
then just email it to me -- gary_siebel@yahoo.com -- unless,
of course, you are afraid to shed your anonymity. I would be truly
interested.
Bet you cant.
Kingofthenet| 2.21.11 @ 1:31PM
How old is Christianity? Judaism? say around 2,000yrs for
Christianity and 4,000 for Judaism, and how old is Islam? 1,400 or
so? What happened 1,400yrs into Christianity? Pretty much towards
the end of the 'Dark Ages' and it took some serious destruction for
the relatively small Jewish population to get out of the War
Business. Islam is still young with room to grow and mature.
Memyself| 2.21.11 @ 1:45PM
Beware of some of these democratic freedom movements in the
Muslim Mid-East. Do we really know who is leading them? In Iran, it
is Mir Hussein Mousavi, who as Prime Minister in the 1980's had
ties to Hezbollah and a role in several terrorist attacts directed
against the US - including the 1983 attack in Lebanon which killed
241 American Marines. Yet I see many conservatives blindly jumping
on the bandwagon and calling for support of the Green Movement.
Wake up, people. This is the Middle East. The enemy of your
enemy is not necessarily your friend. Have we not learned this by
now?
Kingofthenet| 2.21.11 @ 1:52PM
Someone needs to 'Step Up' and be the Islamic 'Henry the VIII'
and bend Islam to him and the state, rather than the other way
around.Unfortunately that person may have been Saddam Hussein.
Death Be Proud| 2.21.11 @ 2:58PM
I SLAM will never change.
The people who are true believers in 2011 resemble the people in
Christianity who ran the Inquisition and conquered the New
World.
It will take many decades for enough brainwashed religious
people to wake up.
Intelligent Design| 2.21.11 @ 6:24PM
I keep reading about "radical Islam" as if it were different
from just plain "Islam". This is a false dichotomy. Islam is about
the merger of "church" and state to form a totalitarian regime
under which there is no religious freedom, and under which
non-Muslims are second-class citizens, if they are lucky. Nothing
could be more hostile to our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and
freedom everywhere. Muslims have been attacking and killing Jews
and other "Infidels" for 1,400 years, since Islam was invented in
the 7th century. Muslims claim that Israel has no right to exist,
yet Jews lived in Jerusalem 1,000 years before Islam was founded.
True religions oppose evil, but Islam embodies evil. 99% of all
terrorist attacks over the past several decades have been committed
by Muslims. The long bloody record is available here: www.thereligionofpeace.com , including daily
updates. Congress should identify Islam as a political ideology and
organization which is subversive to our Constitution, in the same
manner as Nazism or Soviet Communism.
Edward Schrems| 2.21.11 @ 11:57PM
The secret to changing the middle east is to crank up what has
for more than 50 years been our most dependable export: dugs, sex,
rock & roll. No culture has been able to withstand them.
Skippy| 2.22.11 @ 5:03PM
Including our own, sadly.
roadmaster| 2.22.11 @ 12:35PM
Islam will never reform - it is totally inflexible as an
ideology and it's cult members are far to ignorant. Not only that,
they believe their salvation comes by their own hand, through
murderous Jihad, not by the grace of God. There is no moderation in
Islam - you are either devout and a warrior for Allah, or an
apostate, subject to death.
Islam is the Beast of Revelation - the armies of Satan, opposing
the Lord of Heaven's armies and seeking control of this world.
Motivated by a seething hatred for God and His people, the only
person who can change them is Jesus Christ.
Increasingly, many Moozlims are converting to Christianisty, at a
rate that is unprecedented in History. This is the greatest threat
to the ironclad control of the Imams and Mullahs, and why they are
so hostile towards us.
This isn't just a serious disagreement between political
philosophies - this is a struggle to the death between God and
Satan.
I know how the story ends because I read the end of the Book, but
it's going to be ugly.
Terry Mitchell| 3.1.11 @ 12:18AM
I also wish there was peace in the middle east.Yet again
religion
is the main cause there is so many different versions.In my opinion
while we have religion there will never be peace. http://ezinearticles.com/?Best.....id=5871930
Melvin| 2.21.11 @ 7:33AM
There is one way to get our of that oily Middle East quagmire. Start drilling in our own yard.
Memyself| 2.21.11 @ 1:40PM
Drilling in our own yard? Where? The only available oil is so hard to get that it is too expensive and also carries environmental threats which could destroy regional economies for decades. The real answer is to begin to develop alternative energy technologies. There is a market for such technologies, although many are not cost effective at present. But time and R&D will take care of the cost. China already is moving to control the alternative energy market. In 10-20 years, we will certainly notice the cost of our short sighted oil policies.
Quartermaster| 2.21.11 @ 7:34PM
And in 5 years you will regret your shortsightedness on Oil.
The Chinese are not moving to control "alternative" energy. They have already pretty much cornered the market on the equipment for wind and solar electricity. As we know, those are boondoggles that don't stand a chance of producing anything close to what we need. Only Oil, Coal, and Nuclear can do that.
Intelligent Design| 2.21.11 @ 8:04PM
We should be building 100 nuclear power plants instead of spending hundreds of billions to keep troops on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq, instead of spending billions on the hoax called global warming, and instead of giving a dime to the UN (etc). We could have started construction right after 9/11/01, or we could have started it 30 years ago. How about tomorrow morning?
Alan Brooks| 2.21.11 @ 9:52PM
"Jed Babbin served as a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush."
This is bad news as far as I'm concerned.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.21.11 @ 7:53AM
Jed, I'm very sorry to inform you that Islam cannot "reform".
Think about this carefully for a moment now. (Islam has tapped into one of humanity's most powerful urges. Call it "irresponsibility", call it "the slave mentality", call it "I know it all and it is all settled." call it, "not my fault". call it "I have Allah's permission to kill you".)
These are just a few phrases that can perhaps get your writing juices going. They are informing my current novel.
JP| 2.21.11 @ 8:13AM
Islam offers something to the world that the West cannot match. Perhaps there is something deep in our pysche that desires to be dominated. But, this Master-Slave religion is much better at evangelizing than Christianity. From Niger to Thailand; from Canada to the Phillipines, Islam continues to outpace Christianity in growth.
Perhaps the trend began with the diluting of classical Christian theology. Both Protestant and Catholic theology and practice in recent decades has resembled therapy sessions and political pep rallies. Christianity no longer speaks to a person's soul. Islam for all of its problems cannot be accused of this dilution. In Christianity, preachers talk about "values"; in Islam, they talk about Good and Evil. In Europe today, the young are now more likely to convert to Islam than re-convert to Christianity. Something to ponder.
PJ| 2.21.11 @ 11:01AM
You post as if it is hopeless. Quite frankly it isn't.
The Catholic Church has started a new evangelization "department" specifically to re-convert Europe. The leaders of France, Great Britain, & Germany have stated that multiculturalism is wrong.
Our Evangelical brethren & also the Catholic & Orthodox churches are making inroads in Islamic countries. For example, a Catholic university & hospital are in the planning stages to be built in northern IRAQ!!? (see http://www.catholicherald.co.u.....y-in-iraq/), Unfortunately news like this will never be covered by the msm nor are there accurate statistics on the conversion rate from Islam to Christianity which I believe is huge.
JP| 2.21.11 @ 3:04PM
Hope you are right. I seriously doubt Christianity will spread in Iraq. The Chaldean Catholics lived in Iraq since the time of St Thomas (almost 2000 years); in 1940 Egypt's population was 40% Coptic. And in Lebanon, the Marionite Catholics lived there since the time of Pentacost. In all of these nations, Christians now make up barely 5% of the population, and thier numbers dwindle daily.
In Europe, the good news is that the Muslim population is taking up the contraceptive habits of thier hosts. Within a generation, the fertility rates of Muslim expatriates is not much better than the natives. And in Turkey, the birthrates have falled from about 4 children per female in 1980l to less than 2.5 today. In Iran, it isn't much better. The bad news is that new immigrants from North Africa and Pakistan average 4 to 6 children per female. Spain will cease being Spain in less than 40 years. Ditto for Italy, and ditto for Greece. The UK isn't far behind. And niether is France or Belgium.
The future belongs to those who show up.
Dai Alanye| 2.21.11 @ 8:34AM
Judaism was once as intolerant as Islam, slaughtering its enemies right and left. After all, David received the anointment of Samuel because Saul failed to kill the cattle---in addition to the people---of a conquered tribe.
In turn, Christianity once had its despotic stage until reforming from within. The idea that Islam is unable to reform flies in the face of history's examples. But it is difficult seeing it happen until we clearly recognize and name it as an enemy of civilization, just as was done with Communism and Nazism.
We seem to have been handed an opportunity stemming from the freeing of Iraq, without which it’s doubtful today’s rebellions would be happening. Will Obama be wise and bold enough to take advantage of the chance to be seen as the liberator of the Middle East as Reagan was the liberator of Eastern Europe---or will he mimic Reagan in words only, for domestic political gain?
Bob Miller| 2.21.11 @ 11:08AM
When God tells you how to take and defend your country, you listen. This is a whole other thing than maniacal human efforts at world domination via Nazism or jihad or whatever. Anyone who remembers WW2 also remembers what extreme actions were needed to win it for the Allies.
JP| 2.21.11 @ 2:56PM
Islam had its reformation - in 1979. The Muslims Martin Luther or Saint John of the Cross was the Ayatollah.
Paul Kotik| 2.21.11 @ 9:37AM
Mr. Babbin has almost, almost said it. I can say it, because I represent only myself.
The one and only way for the West (broadly defined) to survive this 14 centuries' siege by Islamic expansionism is to defeat it once and for all. And the only way to do that is to falsify Islam and, thereby, the ideology that ineluctably devolves from it.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.21.11 @ 10:49AM
Paul,
I think the word you might be looking for is "de-bunk" rather than "falsify".
In either case, I agree with you.
Paul Kotik| 2.21.11 @ 10:56AM
Ken, what I mean by "falsify" is "to prove to be false". Not sure if that's the dictionary meaning, but that's what I mean. I could put what I mean in even stronger, clearer terms - but that sort of talk frightens young children and the pooches!
Michael L. Hauschild| 2.21.11 @ 11:16AM
You are no more likely to “educate” a Muslim than you are convincing a social conservative that abortion is subject to choice. Attrition is the mechanism, individual liberation is the incremental impetus, and the enlightenment democracy provides through the burgeoning electronic media will provide the leverage. Our founding fathers understood the tenants of Religion and incorporated it into the basis of constitutional morality, that being the simple premise of the “golden rule.” They also understood the dangers of a state based on denominational religion. The “westernization” everyone touts as the wedge to create the democracy in the Mideast will occur; the dark ages of printing presses cranking out the only distributable literacy as the Koran has ended. Reformations are inevitable, as evidenced by our own emergence from the dark ages and the protestant alternatives. What they are not is an instantaneous as the despot’s demise. We are living in historic times.
Leo W| 2.21.11 @ 1:09PM
I'm a social conservative, and choice is OK with me if it means not epanding the size and power of government by having armed goons interfere with reproduction choices. If that's all it takes, be very encouraged by what you see in the middle east.
Paul Kotik| 2.21.11 @ 11:17AM
A question never asked in public, but which events beg and beg, is whether Islam meets the criteria for treatment as a qualified religion under United States law. If, for example, it is the case that a a seditious political ideology is consistent with and demanded by Islam, then the protections afforded a qualified religion under the US Constitution are in effect a suicide pact. Does the US Constitution protect a social order which is relentlessly bent on nullifying the US Constitution? I think not.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.21.11 @ 11:44AM
Paul,
I have personally asked...and answered the question in public. See the web-site
and read chapter one and the foreword.
www.texassaidno.com
jillosophy| 2.21.11 @ 12:03PM
This is a fight to the death, and it was not the idea of rational people. It is a fundemental belief in Islam that there is no legitimate religion BUT Islam. Two houses on earth - one of Islam, one of everyone else, and to be listed in the latter category means (according to Islam) you either are killed, converted, or relegated to a lower status - and live enslaved in one way or another. I believe that well over 75% of muslims believe this and always will. In order to reform Islam, there will have to be a very bloody civil war within Islam, which will be carried out in every country where Muslims find eachother. And who do you think will win - those who profess to love death and hate life? Bingo. Moderate muslims will never win. No one will ever win. You can only win against fundemental Islam by utterly destroying it and everyone who believes in it. This is a fight to the death, and it was not the idea of rational people. YOU CANNOT REASON A MAN OUT OF WHAT HE WAS NO REASONED INTO.
John M| 2.21.11 @ 12:11PM
Please stop the practice of equating Allah with Yahweh. When the word God is used please specify whose. Also, Muslims will not change from their beliefs anymore than I will ever disavow the primacy of Jesus. The world will only have peace when Jesus returns and your time and treasures are better spent spreading the Word.
Memyself| 2.21.11 @ 1:49PM
You do realize that the word "Yahweh" is a mistransliteration of the Hebrew, don't you?
Quartermaster| 2.21.11 @ 7:41PM
Actually it isn't. It comes from the tetragrammaton YHWH. Hebrew had no vowels in it's written language (vowel points have been added since about AD 1000). The "a" and "e" were added later from teh vowel points, iirc. Now, the German pronunciation yielded what use in English as "Jehovah." But, that is not a transliteration.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.21.11 @ 12:28PM
John M.
Well spoken....but pass the ammunition.
bobmontgomery| 2.21.11 @ 12:55PM
Jed,
Instructive was your bringing in Martin Luther.
Kingofthenet| 2.21.11 @ 1:14PM
The problem with Islam isn't that sooner or later it will moderate,(It Will) but that it will be 'later' than the West can wait. My plan is somewhat Nefarious but I feel it would work, we need to 'remove' Imam's who preach violence, and replace them with our 'puppet's' who although 'Seem' to be just as Anti -West as the replaced ones, but quickly change their tune to Peace. This would require a Grand Conspiracy, so I am not sure it's possible. Any way you do it, you have to 'break' the chain of learning than acting on violence towards the West.
gary siebel| 2.21.11 @ 1:28PM
What's clear is that you have no clue, as does most of the RW, apparently, or the liberals, of how to deal with Islam. You represent that point rather well when you write:
It is impossible to engage Muslims in conversation about their religion without encountering their absolutism. There is only one Islam, we are told, and there cannot be different interpretations of its dictates. Even the most moderate of Muslims insist that the Koran requires an absolute belief that its words are the words of god, and not subject to debate or difference. By that demand, Islam prohibits a debate that is fundamental to freedom of thought and expression.
Change that to the Bible and Baptist/Evenagelicals (the core of the Repub Party) and you have exactly the same situation, precisely, exactly the same to the nth degree.
(Also, trychecking out Don Quixote, the little speech about Mambrino's Helmet, and about converting Muslims/)
It seems doubtful whether you have even read the Q'uran, Hadith, or any of the other mountain of philosophy Islam has put out, just like Christianity, in defense of it's beliefs, which means you have broken Patton's Rule : know your enemy.
I can drive Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindu's, and Buddhists to distraction just by using a basic Socratic method of questioning them, but ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO READ THE SOURCE MATERIAL, and I get tired of nitwits who haven't but are eager to provide advise.
Here's a simple question that can be used to rattle any Muslim, and the answer can be used to drive a wedge into Islam, but only if you know how; and this is but one example: How does a Muslim determine prayer times in Alaska in winter?
Now, the answer is that you cannot (because the sun does not rise above the horizon) yet the imams fudge the position to declare prayer times should be in accordance with the nearest city that sees the sun, which is obviously doctrine fabricated out of thin air. But what it demonstrates is that Islam is a latitude based religion, an idea that rankles Muslims who wish to conquer the world. It is but one of many flaws in their doctrine, same as flaws in Christian doctrine, that adherents gloss over or ignore, unless you rub their noses in it.
I could go on and on attacking the flaws in religions -- they are so many and they make such easy targets -- but a key difference between Islam and Judeo-Christianity, and even Hinduism and Buddhism, is that Islam remains the only large religion that has yet to be brought under the heel of civil government, which makes it the only religion that is my enemy.
The modern Islamic Crusade against US and Europe has a long ways to go yet because it's cannon fodder is provided by the madrassa's. Until that cycle is broken the Islamic Crusade will continue (it should be called that, the Islamic Crusade, but media lacks the nerve, the same as it lacked the nerve to publish the Muhammad cartoon).
So far I have yet to hear anyone in politics or media able to truly aggravate Muslims just by asking them simple questions. Another example: was Muhammad a man or not? Try that one with a zealous Muslim and watch the change in their body language as they consider the ramifications to the fact he was just a man. If they insist on adding, "may the blessings of peace and prosperity be upon him" immediately after they say his name, ask if they are able to say his name, that of a man, without that add-on? Try to pin them down on why they do that and they will slither and slide the same as any Christian who tries to explain that Jesus is God. In fact, to really piss them off, point out that the add-on is no different than the Christians adding "Christ" after the name of Jesus. But, of course, a Christian wouldn't think of that point to use against a Muslim.
And what about that blasted 9/11 mosque?
Quartermaster| 2.21.11 @ 7:52PM
Your ravings are so full of holes it would require a longer essay than should be posted here to refute it.
I will respond to one bit of stupidity, the adding of Christ after the name Jesus.
There is nothing untoward about "adding" Christ to Jesus. The two words "Jesus Christ" (ιησου χριστου in Greek) appears in that form 550 times in the new Testament. So a Christian wouldn't think of such a criticism based on your thinking such things are true because it isn't true. It's been such since the beginning of Christianity and its scriptures.
It would be better for skeptics as yourself to keep their mouths shut and not display your utter ignorance on subjects like religion. You may have "read the source documents," but on just one point your ignorance has been shown. So, what else have you raved about that is a fact that just isn't so?
Frankly, I have no desire to embarrass your further, so suffice it to say, there is far more ignorance in your post. Your lack of knowledge on Islam alone is also breathtaking.
gary siebel| 2.22.11 @ 3:30PM
By all means refute if you can. Your brief bit of fluff refuted nothing. Your claim actually proves my point -- there is no evidence any of the so-called New Testament was written while Jesus was alive, ergo, "Christ" was added after his death. Spare me your dogma; stick to historical facts.
Since you claim such a refutation would be too long for here, then just email it to me -- gary_siebel@yahoo.com -- unless, of course, you are afraid to shed your anonymity. I would be truly interested.
Bet you cant.
Kingofthenet| 2.21.11 @ 1:31PM
How old is Christianity? Judaism? say around 2,000yrs for Christianity and 4,000 for Judaism, and how old is Islam? 1,400 or so? What happened 1,400yrs into Christianity? Pretty much towards the end of the 'Dark Ages' and it took some serious destruction for the relatively small Jewish population to get out of the War Business. Islam is still young with room to grow and mature.
Memyself| 2.21.11 @ 1:45PM
Beware of some of these democratic freedom movements in the Muslim Mid-East. Do we really know who is leading them? In Iran, it is Mir Hussein Mousavi, who as Prime Minister in the 1980's had ties to Hezbollah and a role in several terrorist attacts directed against the US - including the 1983 attack in Lebanon which killed 241 American Marines. Yet I see many conservatives blindly jumping on the bandwagon and calling for support of the Green Movement.
Wake up, people. This is the Middle East. The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Have we not learned this by now?
Kingofthenet| 2.21.11 @ 1:52PM
Someone needs to 'Step Up' and be the Islamic 'Henry the VIII' and bend Islam to him and the state, rather than the other way around.Unfortunately that person may have been Saddam Hussein.
Death Be Proud| 2.21.11 @ 2:58PM
I SLAM will never change.
The people who are true believers in 2011 resemble the people in Christianity who ran the Inquisition and conquered the New World.
It will take many decades for enough brainwashed religious people to wake up.
Intelligent Design| 2.21.11 @ 6:24PM
I keep reading about "radical Islam" as if it were different from just plain "Islam". This is a false dichotomy. Islam is about the merger of "church" and state to form a totalitarian regime under which there is no religious freedom, and under which non-Muslims are second-class citizens, if they are lucky. Nothing could be more hostile to our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and freedom everywhere. Muslims have been attacking and killing Jews and other "Infidels" for 1,400 years, since Islam was invented in the 7th century. Muslims claim that Israel has no right to exist, yet Jews lived in Jerusalem 1,000 years before Islam was founded. True religions oppose evil, but Islam embodies evil. 99% of all terrorist attacks over the past several decades have been committed by Muslims. The long bloody record is available here: www.thereligionofpeace.com , including daily updates. Congress should identify Islam as a political ideology and organization which is subversive to our Constitution, in the same manner as Nazism or Soviet Communism.
Edward Schrems| 2.21.11 @ 11:57PM
The secret to changing the middle east is to crank up what has for more than 50 years been our most dependable export: dugs, sex, rock & roll. No culture has been able to withstand them.
Skippy| 2.22.11 @ 5:03PM
Including our own, sadly.
roadmaster| 2.22.11 @ 12:35PM
Islam will never reform - it is totally inflexible as an ideology and it's cult members are far to ignorant. Not only that, they believe their salvation comes by their own hand, through murderous Jihad, not by the grace of God. There is no moderation in Islam - you are either devout and a warrior for Allah, or an apostate, subject to death.
Islam is the Beast of Revelation - the armies of Satan, opposing the Lord of Heaven's armies and seeking control of this world. Motivated by a seething hatred for God and His people, the only person who can change them is Jesus Christ.
Increasingly, many Moozlims are converting to Christianisty, at a rate that is unprecedented in History. This is the greatest threat to the ironclad control of the Imams and Mullahs, and why they are so hostile towards us.
This isn't just a serious disagreement between political philosophies - this is a struggle to the death between God and Satan.
I know how the story ends because I read the end of the Book, but it's going to be ugly.
Terry Mitchell| 3.1.11 @ 12:18AM
I also wish there was peace in the middle east.Yet again religion
is the main cause there is so many different versions.In my opinion while we have religion there will never be peace.
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