There used to be only two kinds of political office in the
United States, elective and appointive. The Republicans have
invented the third kind: disappointive.
Less than a month into the tenure of the new Republican
majority in the House of Representatives one of their rank-and-file
was caught in rank behavior and filed his resignation. This despite
the elaborate evasive action he took in trying to pick up women on
the Internet by sending out a shirtless picture of himself. How
could he have anticipated that people would still be able to
identify him as a stuffed shirt?
The genius in question is a fellow named Chris Lee from
upstate New York. He answered a want ad on Craig's List from a
woman who sought -- get this -- a mature guy. Naturally, if you
look for a mate wanting, your mate will be found wanting. But the
broader question for the nation is whether the Republicans leave
something to be desired -- leave something valuable, such as our
trust, just to be desired in shallow ways.
Now I confess to
having writtenthis article once already,
but it begs for a revisit. This is a critical moment in the
evolution of our politics, and we can only survive with the
fittest. This new bunch came to town with great promise of acuity
and their moment should not be squandered on promiscuity. Keep the
promise you made to the cutie you married and serve the people
humbly, that's the advice they need to follow.
Ronald Reagan wrote his son, Michael, on his wedding day:
"If you truly love a girl, you shouldn't ever want her to feel,
when she sees you greet a secretary or a girl you both know, that
humiliation of wondering if she was someone who caused you to be
late coming home, nor should you want any other woman to be able to
meet your wife and know she was smiling behind her eyes as she
looked at her, the woman you love, remembering this was the woman
you rejected even momentarily for her favors." There is nothing
that needs to be added to that in terms of morality, personal
loyalty, and even practicality.
After fifty-two years of living and observing life, I can
tell you that the average of other women lags behind the average of
wives in every area: looks, intelligence, social skills,
personality, demeanor, not to mention achievement and dignity. As
James Thurber wrote in the New York Times almost a century
ago, the non-wife has two key virtues. She builds you up without
challenging you and she can be unloaded with less consequence. All
the things that voters used to do for Congressmen, in
fact.
We are living in too important a time and our
representatives in high office have been entrusted with too
important a task. At this point, they cannot cheat on their wives
without cheating on us, cheating on the country, cheating on the
future. Somehow they have to find the strength to put aside the
whims and the women. Park those fantasies off for future reference
when you are cashing retirement checks and your sun visor is not
reflecting back on the voters.
Look, this is a lot less easy than it sounds, I know.
There is plenty of temptation anywhere, and it is only heightened
by the junction of ambition and power that is Washington, the
junction of ambition and money that is New York, the junction of
ambition and beauty that is Hollywood. I am not judging Christopher
Lee, not by a long shot. I am not trying to portray myself as a
better person by one iota. My plea -- my hope -- is that the higher
calling substitute for the lower urges. As Maimonides declared:
"Sexual fantasy can only occupy a mind diverted from
wisdom."
We are all human beings with a full complement of
frailties. Still, it is possible, though not without great
commitment, to devote ourselves to noble causes. This is more true
at a time of national emergency. Guys, we are looking for mature
people, fit and cheerful and goal-oriented, not given to deceiving
themselves and others, people who take responsibility
and address themselves to the long term. But we have been
burnt too many times before.
About the Author
Jay D. Homnick, commentator and humorist, is a frequent contributor to The American Spectator. He also writes for Human Events. Here he performs his original composition, "Buy You (Bayou) a Drink".
You are expecting a man to keep his clothes on and think of
something besides sex, when everything he sees and hears tells him
that sex should be the total focus of life?
When every second commercial is for a product to disguise his
gray hair and prop up his droopy wee-wee -- even commercials
starring his two little daughters urging him to GettaGirlNow by
using these products -- obviously the whole idea that there is more
to life than sex has gone right down the memory hole.
Its all there in Aldous Huxleys *Brave New World* -- keep the
folks boys and girls, focus them on sex, drugs, and entertainment
(and tell them they NEED these things every day or they will DIE)
and never give them any time or inclination to be alone with a good
book and their thoughts -- and this is what you will get: an army
of teenaged brats -- forever.
You wanted it: You got it.
canuckistani| 2.11.11 @ 7:42AM
When are we going to grow up and realize what happens in a man's
bedroom, or mind, for that matter, with regards to sex is
completely detached from his political and practical contributions
to the state.
People are afraid to admit men can actually compartmentalize these
acts.
My issue with Lee and others like him, is that they were elected on
the false premise of social conservatism - like giving a lollipop
to a baby, they use their faux morality to a) extort the GOP
nomination and b) bamboozle the electorate that they are somehow
fitter than they are in the quiet of their minds.
His ACU rating was second only to King in the NY caucus, he was
doing his part. But the continued pandering to the pollyannas in
the party leave the scortched earth we have now and Boehner and his
cabal of idiots left with a hole in a yankee state.
Ryan| 2.11.11 @ 8:39AM
If a man is incapable of making good, simple, moral choices in
his personal life - like NOT CHEATING ON YOUR WIFE, then he cannot
be trusted to make good moral choices in government.
Morality cannot be compartmentalized.
PCC| 2.11.11 @ 9:01AM
So you say. Personally, I think your view is the kind of
hypocritical moralising that led to the Salem witch trials, or
their modern equivalent of preachers found in motel rooms with
underage boys and girls.
PaulyD| 2.11.11 @ 9:14AM
Standard lame liberal straw-man argument. Lump it in with the
conservatives don't believe in global warming so they must by Nazis
trope.
So tiresome.
PaulyD| 2.11.11 @ 9:16AM
Correction: that would be "be Nazis"...
Ryan| 2.11.11 @ 2:10PM
Everyone is a hypocrite to their own ideals. The issue here is
not being a complete idiot about it and stupidly acting on
impulses.
Men should stay faithful to their wives. Period. Public office
or not, that's the standard.
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 6:48PM
I wouldn't want a pedophile as my Congressman, either. One Gerry
Stubbs was quite enough, thank you.
The greatest Roman emperors kept things fastened well there, as
did our greatest Presidents and Generals, other than FDR.
(Lincoln---Mary; Wahington---Martha, Reagan---mommy. Grant was also
uxorious, as was Marshall ---and our greatest generals. I don't
recall Marcus Aurelius fooling around, and Livia ran Augustus'
life.)
Of course, Churchill was also quite faithful.
Pelligrino| 2.11.11 @ 12:44PM
Very well and succinctly presented. Thank you, Ryan.
Real men adhere to fundamental tenets like those expressed
during the Promise Keepers rallies.
skip| 2.11.11 @ 2:01PM
That always bugged me about the Clinton Lewinsky affair.
Liberals argued his sex life had nothing to do with running the
country.
I thought if the guy would lie and cheat to his spouse, who he
vowed to be faithful to before friends, family, and God almighty,
how in the world can you trust him to even grocery shop or take out
the trash much less lead the nation. He has proven he is
untrustworthy to his spouse but rest assured all us strangers can
trust him?
Liberals are so unintelligent and dishonest it defies simple
common sense.
Purpleguy| 2.12.11 @ 2:06AM
and yet, more Republicans are diminished by their own sexual
proclivities. they don't practice what they preach and that's the
difference.
axbucxdu| 2.12.11 @ 11:39AM
Yup, it's funny how the MSM prioritizes the use of their ink and
air-time, ain't it? OTOH, the libs' principles are based on
immorality, so their "foibles" are excused by default.
skip| 2.12.11 @ 2:53PM
and yet, one more post screaming of unintelligence and
dishonesty from the poster whose moniker screams of sexual
proclivities involving homosexual one way sewer pipe
abominations.
and yet, all Republicans and all Democrats and all Libertarians
and all Independents and all of the any other political
affiliations have never practised what they preached without fail,
yet more of those of the conservative bent have at least
acknowledged this hypocrisy, while more of those of the liberal
bent have pretended this hypocrisy doesn't even exist, and that's a
monumental difference.
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:19PM
This is so true... Public morality is private morality writ
large.
Honesty, integrity, and loyalty can not be only in one sphere of
one's life. They are either throughout the whole, or they are
absent.
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:20PM
This is so true... Public morality is private morality writ
large.
Honesty, integrity, and loyalty can not be only in one sphere of
one's life. They are either throughout the whole, or they are
absent.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 10:04AM
Canuckistani,
AS thinks only the wealthy can have a good time, it is hopeless for
America. "As long as you don't get caught" is their slogan.
Everyone from Spiro Agnew to this mental midget Lee got caught;
their mistake was getting caught. There are guys at AS who never
got caught, and that is what counts, making sure their wives didn't
know they were 'doing it' on business trips.
Publius2011| 2.13.11 @ 1:01PM
Alan is even more incoherent than usual. Thanks for playing,
Alan.
Clint| 2.11.11 @ 10:14AM
The New Morality Is The Old Immorality Condoned.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 10:50AM
The Services are a great place to 'do it'--
especially the Navy.
Why, you can get anything you want in the Navy-
anyONE.
Clint| 2.11.11 @ 1:47PM
Uh Oh !
Brooks Is Auditioning For The Village People.
You Go Girl!
skip| 2.11.11 @ 2:04PM
Bet his favorite was the cop.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 2:23PM
Clint,
your impersonating bloggers at AS (Margie, me, perhaps others) was
worse than what Lee did.
Clint| 2.11.11 @ 2:48PM
I got $1000.00 that says it wasn't me Brooks.
Someone is Punking You & laughing about You focusing on
Me.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 3:28PM
Then I apologize. Marge said she heard that it was you, but she
doesn't blog here anymore so there's no way to know.
Anyway, my view of sex, any sex, is that is no big deal either
way. And this imbecile Lee didn't even get to take his pants off in
front of the camera-- he is a failure even just as an
exhibitionist. Lee isn't a bad guy, he is merely a clown.
Clint| 2.11.11 @ 5:01PM
Thank You.
Carry On.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 6:11PM
Lee-gate is 'harmless', like watching a bad TV show; think of
it, Lee takes his shirt off (with a sh*t-eating look on his face)
and now he'll end up writing a book about it:
"Baring My Soul, Layer By Layer"; then he will appear on Oprah to
plug it. Hugh Hefner writes the preface. And Lee lives happily ever
after.
Hypocracy| 2.14.11 @ 4:17PM
What really gets me is think what would happen if this guy was a
liberal. He would lie, lie and the Demoncraps and media would
circle the wagons and defend him until he gets Charlie Wrangel's
post in the powerful "ways and means committee". How much of what
Republicans have to go through that Demoncraps never see. Do you
see a double-standard anywhere here?
Melvin| 2.11.11 @ 7:15AM
The Mrs. and I were musing the other day, and after many years
of marriage, I have come to the conclusion that a person either has
infidelity in them or they do not.
Many men and women seem unable to help themselves in straying,
while many others can stay with each other till death do them
part.
If I was to take a picture of myself the way that fool Congressman
did, I would probably need an IMAX panoramic camera, and then it
still would be dicey.
No greater sin to a marriage is infidelity. Most marriages can
recover from money problems, family problems, and the other things
that pull the fabric of marriage apart.
It all boils down to trust. If a person's wife or husband can trust
them, then the constituents can trust em.
The 212 Congress just convened and the Republicans already have
their middle aged Rico Suave's falling by the way side.
This fool Putz has lost the respect of his children, family on both
sides, constituents, and his wife.
canuckistani| 2.11.11 @ 7:47AM
RR is the ONLY divorced president in history.
He split over work with a union, then he flip-flopped and became a
middle-of-the-road conservative. Careful who we quote.
Lee was a top quartile conservative on what matters - policy.
He's gone, and a strong district could now be 23rd -ed by the
Baggers.
Thank the ladies of temperance league for forcing good
candidates to drink the pollyanna Kool-aid to get elected.
jothepro| 2.11.11 @ 8:35AM
Hey canuckistani,
BC was the only president to get a blo_ job in the oval office.And
he flip-flopped over welfare. Big deal. What's your point? Middle
of the road my ass. Is there smoke in the air where you are at?
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 10:55AM
Canukistani doesn't know that the wealthy OWN America and always
will. But instead of wealthy whites owning it, the wealthy of all
races will;
we have a black president now-- and that's a start.
Appleby| 2.13.11 @ 7:27AM
The heirarchy in Canada are like the old Soviet -- the
apparatchiks run things and steal and lie and play around and
sometimes get caught and booted; the nomenklatura steal and lie and
play around openly, and are constantly re-elected, and in fact kids
long to grow up and BE them --and everyone else is a resentful
prole fighting over the scraps left behind.
How can he opine on American standards when he has never
experienced life in a republic?
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:23PM
Jane Wyman had two marriages and two divorces under her belt
before she married Reagan.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 2:49PM
The way you all write, it's as if Lee had actual sex by way of
Craigslist.
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 6:50PM
RR divorced, but he was uber faithful to Nancy.
Louis Jenkins| 2.11.11 @ 8:27AM
Another Republican done gone! One should be careful sending out
text messages with your picture attached. In fact, one shouldn't do
it at all. Chances are he's done it before, only this one brought
attention. When one is elected to an office he should walk the
straight and narrow. In fact, he should have never done that. I
have to agree with the writer, it takes a certain kind of man to
hold office. Chris Lee has proven he is not that man.
Appleby| 2.11.11 @ 11:35AM
That's the mistake the GenYners keep on making over and over and
over. Our local Chairman of the TTC was making a run for Mayor when
one of his mistresses published his emails to her -- the moron was
sending her TEXT MESSAGES that said the woman he was living with
was only a prop to make him look good in front of the press! These
stupid brats cannot get their limited attention around the fact
that things you broadcast go EVERYWHERE and last FOREVER.
(We also had a hockey player who took nekkid photos of himself
and TEXTED them to people and then was shocked when he became a
laughingstock and was shuffled out of town.)
Kids, If you have to make a whore of yourself, don't put it in
writing and send copies to the entire planet.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 2:50PM
But Lee only took his shirt off-- not his pants!
Appleby| 2.13.11 @ 7:28AM
He got caught before he could go farther.
Consertive View| 2.11.11 @ 8:34AM
Some TV star (I forget who) once said, "Fame brings you to the
point where you start to believe that the law no longer applies to
you." So too power. We take an average man, put him in a position
of power, and before long he begins to think, such laws, such moral
edicts, no longer apply. I don't condem the man, I don't even pity
him. We expect as citizens of this country that our political
leaders, and our military personel all behave like saints, but
politics like war are not places where saints long survive.
Did he have to go? Yes. He had to go because the crossed the
line in public. His tarnished soul was shown. All of us have
tarnished souls in one way or another. All of us have weaknesses of
one sort or another. So let's not stone the man, but perhaps give
him a ticket out of town. His sin was human. Our forgivness should
be freely given. We can forgive but not condone
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 4:35PM
This is the 'funniest' (depending how lowdown one's sense of
humor is) scandal:
"Ohio Gym Teacher Had Sex With Football Players, Say Court
Docs"
All of them? at one time??
On the field? or in the locker room? Did they remove their
uniforms, or only pull their trousers down? The big question:
Were they all wearing their shoulder pads?
MikeD| 2.11.11 @ 8:36AM
Although Mr. Lee has made a fool of himself, why is it that
suddenly, as a Republican, he is now reviled and excoriated? If he
were a democrat nobody would know or care because the media would
bury it. Good old prez. 'Bubba: told a whole generation that doing
what he did with Monica was "NOT SEX WITH THAT WOMAN!". If a
Republican had lied like that he'd have been ridden out of town on
a rail; yet the media and their accomplists tell us that it was
"...just sex. Why get our panties in a wad over it; it's not like
he did anything wrong."
But let a Republican show his sagging chest in a mirror and the
Republic is shaken to the core.
Rep. Lee was really stupid and certainly made himself look like a
fool while disgracing himself and messing up his marriage. But why
is it so different from what is regarded as normal behavior in
D.C.? The double standard is just another tactic used by the REAL
morally bankrupt; ie, liberals and their fellow liars who have been
proven to do ANYTHING to get and maintain power.
Conservative Bob| 2.11.11 @ 10:54AM
Mike the difference is we claim to stand for something while the
dems do not. The left uses the hypocrisy hammer on us with glee. We
dare to speak out for a value system that recognizes definable
right and wrong so anytime anyone on our side falls short they use
it to tarnish us all.
Those on the left twist our belief in a moral code into a claim of
perfection, rather than a pursuit of perfection so to them anytime
one on our side falls short they can gleefully point to our
hypocrisy.
I do not know the broad circumstances of this particular situation
but when he disgraced himself and his family he had no alternative
but to resign.
The difference between us and them is that we recognize that having
a strong moral standard guiding people’s behavior society is
improved even though we recognize that the standard is unattainable
for every person at all of the times. The limit it places on the
general behavior is a net positive for our social order. The Left
on the other hand seeks to remove any standard and to justify and
accept any behavior as an individual decision. It explains why
choice is their mantra in all things moral. Choice or the
elimination of all moral standards is their holy grail. It is this
drive to tear down any and all moral codes that has brought our
society to its present place.
In the end it is not a double standard but the battle between good
and evil. It is how a man who, at best, left his campaign aid to
drown in a car can be memorialized as the Lion of the Senate, how
the other half of the waitress sandwich can with a straight face
pontificate on the immorality of greed in our economic system and
how a man from whose home a male prostitution ring was run can
claim to be the defender of the poor and down trodden.
While Lee’s behavior is disappointing, he will not be the last
others will be tempted and will fall. Our victory will not be found
in loosening the standards and principles we strive for, but in
find others who share them to take the place of those who fail. Our
founders rightly knew that our system required men of principle and
character in order to work as designed. We have only to look at the
democrats and progressive left to see what comes of the
alternative.
The fact that republicans resign when their human failings are
exposed and dems mostly do not is not evidence that there is a
double standard but rather confirmation that we have standards.
ncatty| 2.11.11 @ 12:11PM
Good post.
jolizoom| 2.11.11 @ 6:11PM
Bob, excellent.
TS| 2.12.11 @ 11:25AM
Excellent! Best post I have read in months (and that is among
some lofty company).
My biggest beef with folks such as Lee is -- if you're stupid
enough to post a picture of yourself online in an attempt to "get a
date" -- the sheer stupidity of that act should (and did) get you
fired. If you make those kinds of stupid decisions in your private
life then what kind of stupid decisions are you making in your
public life?
stmichrick| 2.11.11 @ 9:12AM
What is most revealing about this tale is how stupid the guy
was. Imagine him giving that kind of forethought on policy matters.
Such a moron.
Moral blindness crosses party lines but is treated differently.
The Party of Standards' sin is branded hypocritical. The Party of
No Standards' mistake is branded compartmentalized.
Bob K.| 2.11.11 @ 9:50AM
Our democracy has been dumbed down.
Smart politicians understand celebrity and use it in ways to
enhance their power not destroy it. A competent politician keeps
things simple and in focus. He or she does not do things that lets
the electorates collective mind wander off focus unless there are
political reasons to do so. Lee forgot this, or never learned it or
was unable to control it. In any case he could not be an effective
leader for his district which is in Western NY and probably is in
the economic dregs. Upstate NY is a disaster area not unlike the
state of Michigan.
Bob Miller| 2.11.11 @ 9:59AM
There is also a lot of "political adultery" going around, in
which politicians fool and betray the steady supporters who put
them in office and keep them there.
da monk| 2.11.11 @ 11:20AM
Have any of you conservative condemmers of politicans on left
who have strayed considered that your idols on the Right have: 1)
Newt asked his wife for a divorce when she was in the hospital
recovering from her third surgery. 2) Henry Hyde confessed to an
affair while condeming Clinton 3)
John McCain dumped his 1st wife after she was disabled in a car
accident. Where were their morals which you justly accuse those
malifactors lack? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the
gander.
Appleby| 2.11.11 @ 11:36AM
My Mama always told me that "everyone else does it!" was not a
defence. "YOU," she would say, "are not EVERYONE ELSE!"
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:26PM
Yes, Henry Hyde did... However, Clinton's impeachment was not
because he had an affair, but because he lied under oath, among
other things. You are drawing a false equivalence between the two
cases, as so many did in 1997-1998 to obfuscate the charges against
Mr. Clinton.
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:27PM
Newt has issues; no doubt about that. But have you noticed that
he's not got a huge groundswell of conservative or GOP support for
a potential Presidential run? There's a reason for it, and his
behavior in the past has something to do with that.
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:28PM
And you will recall also that McCain took sole responsibility
for the failure of his first marriage and he did so publicly.
Ryan| 2.11.11 @ 2:12PM
It doesn't make those decisions right or defensible.
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 6:51PM
I didn't want any of those three for President, but all of them
would be better than Obama.
Old Joe| 2.11.11 @ 11:32AM
Da Monk is correct but the difference is that we conservatives
hold our politicians to a high standard while the Democrats hold
their politicians to no standard and winning is all that
matters.
USAttorney| 2.11.11 @ 11:35AM
As conservatives I think we need to be more open to flaws within
so we can fix them or understand why they don't need to be
fixed/are subjective flaws. When we provide an umbrella of defense
for all actions of a person, it makes the party look weak and
partisan to a fault. DHS was not begun under Obama. Deficit
spending did not magically expand under Clinton. In our own house
we need to evaluate and speak with more unity on core, prioritized
ideals. Since the SCOTUS wades into debates on abortion, and since
the Senate has some clout with the budget, maybe our first focus is
not on semantics or history lessons, but on a unified theme of
budget cuts and fiscal restraint. Scaled layoffs, property sales to
private enterprise, and initial reversion of powers back to the
states and citizens.
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 11:57AM
Christopher Lee---what a horror show.
Pelligrino| 2.11.11 @ 12:25PM
Mr. Homnick, thank you. Good article and good admonition for ALL
of us. All of us should be in some positions of responsibilities
due to our work, our roles in our neighborhoods, our age, and just
due to the fact that we are supposed to be role models.
Yes, that comes with aging. No excuses.
And certainly no excuses for those whose entire lives are funded
by taxpayers.
What I want to know: Where would a Congressman, Senator, senior
appointee, cabinet member, GS-14 or 15.....where would any of these
people have the TIME for anything other than maybe a nap?
I expect them to life -- in the information age -- very dull,
wonky lives. Sleeping takes 8 hours of your day. Personal hygene
about an hour. Eating 1.5 - 2 hours (those power lunches, you see).
Commuting to work: 1 hour.
So....let's see that just leaves....12 hours in the day -- at
most -- in a perfectly flawless day.
Well, golly. Guess what, to those in leadership and senior
management (in our Armed Forces too), we, the American Public do
expect you to be working that solid 12-hour day. Week in, week
out.
Sound just too dull for you? Good. Don't apply or position
yourself for these vital jobs. Stay away.
If you have some time on Saturday, well, be reading. Yes, no
fiction allowed. Be reading all those briefs, memos,
recommendations, studies, pieces of legistlation, pieces of
proposed regulation, maybe the Constitution....
Thus, there's no time in the day EVER for texting, updating your
Facebook page, viewing potential hookups on Match.com, a little
private chat with your college intern, seeing your surreptitioius
Yahoo email account with your Ashley Madison date's response....now
is there?
Shouldn't the 'Cyber Sergeant at Arms' at the Capitol be
blocking IPs from certain web locations? (I guess we have to
because these morons cannot control themselves.)
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 3:36PM
Taking one's shirt off (for a male that is), is NOTHING. At the
beach guys do so every day. Right now, in FL. & CA., millions
of guys are shirtless.
Conservative Bob| 2.11.11 @ 4:00PM
I think the point is not that he took his shirt off but that as
a married man he took it off in an effort to facilitate a liaison
with someone other than his wife. I could be wrong.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 4:43PM
I was joking, Bob; it's silly, this particular scandal.
It isn't tragic, as the Joey Buttafuoco- Amy Fischer scandal was (a
woman was shot);
Lee is a comic figure.
Conservative Bob| 2.11.11 @ 7:03PM
Lee unfortunately is a fool.
If hhe is remebered at all it will be as a punch line...
firebrand| 2.11.11 @ 5:39PM
What I noticed about the "studly" Chris Lee's picture was, he
was "sucking in his gut". Lied about his age, lied about his
marital status and even tried to lie about his solar plexus! Notice
the unfortunate resemblance to Jim Bakker - Tammy Faye's wayward
husband?
It is always the nerdy, Bible-thumping anti-abortion guys who
are looking for lust in all the wrong places. (Read Mark Souder,
who is currently back resuming his walk with the Lord).
Just another Christian choirboy gone wrong.
At least, Wilbur Mills was not claiming to be anything but a
hircine, old Arkie, when he was splashing in the Tide Pool with
Fanne Fox.
And I am not a lib/troll invading TAS space. I am an 83 year old
conservative observer of Republican bumbling, screwing up our shaky
majority in a time when we need it.
Republicans just don't know how to get away with it and they
should quit trying.
stmichrick| 2.13.11 @ 11:19AM
Hey firebrand; a couple of questions.
Why is it that hypocrisy is the worst sin in all of these sordid
episodes?
You are saying that professing no standards of behavior is
superior morally than professing some and failing?
I'll give you that Lee looks foolish and nerdy but was he, in
fact, a Bible thumping anti-abortion guy, or you assume that
because of his party?
Why is believing that killing humans before birth to be wrong
worse than trying to cheat on your spouse?
Just wondering.
firebrand| 2.11.11 @ 5:59PM
for "da monk" - -
You left out that Newt dumped the dour Marianne for the aide he was
fooling around with. I believe the aide was Calista, the current
wife (correct me if I'm wrong) -who appears regularly with New,t
hawking the books they churn out, one after the other.
Diogenes only had to look for an honest man. If we are looking
for one who can keep his pants zipped, we better get a long-burning
lantern!
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 7:13PM
Here are some excellent Western Leaders, both politicians and
generals, who could keep their pants zipped: Churchill. Lincoln.
Grant. John Adams. John Quincy Adams. Truman. Sherman. Teddy
Roosevelt. Marshall. Coolidge. Reagan (after marrying Nancy).
LeMay. Antoninus Pius. Marcus Aurelius.
I could go with quite a few others, if I worked at it. It's not
impossible. For example, John Bolton (my 1st 10 choices for
President) seems to have a responsible private life, proving that
massive size and fidelity CAN go together.
firebrand| 2.12.11 @ 12:19AM
OK, Occam's Tool - is there any length to which you would not go
to prove someone speaking in general terms, wrong? You know very
well, I was speaking of the the current crop. What scalpel do you
use for splitting hairs?
It was a far reach back into history for you to find a little
fidelity! You don't even know if the ones you cite were opposed to
dalliance or merely more discreet.
John Bolton happens to be my choice, too. And do you know why he
would probably not get elected? Because we are such a superficial
electorate - pushovers for the cosmetic. The white mustache would
go against him. When have we had a president with a mustache in
recent times? When have we ever had one with a white mustache and
darker hair?
I don't know if you happened to see Bolton one night on Greta
Van Susteren's show when he was a guest along with a liberal
know-nothing blow-hard . At he end of the set-to, Greta said to
Bolton, "I'll give you the last word to respond to what he thinks."
Bolton said, "Nah, I don't care what he thinks." And that was the
end of the interview. The put-down of the millennium! I about
strangled on my coffee, laughing. I could just see him as
President, blowing off a stupid question by a White House
journalist.
A lunatic country that voted for "Tiger Woods in a GQ suit"
would miss the boat with Bolton over his mustache.
MikeN| 2.12.11 @ 1:51AM
What did Reagan know about his son that he felt such advice was
needed? Like Kerry's mom telling him 'integrity integrity
integrity"
firebrand| 2.12.11 @ 3:54AM
If just once, one of these Congressional wives would call a
press conference, sweetly ask her husband to be by her side; turn
and kick him in the shins, saying,"There, amend that!" and walk
away. They never do.
335blues| 2.12.11 @ 11:18AM
It is no longer surprising that there are shallow, fake poseurs
in politics, even in the republican party. There are lots of
pretenders out there- remember arlen spector? He was a liberal
pretending to be republican. Remember the myth of the moderate
democrat? The last two years have exposed that myth quite clearly
to be a lie (think claire mccaskill). How about the two john
mccains? There is the fake john mccain that appears every six years
pretending to be a conservative, then there is the real john mccain
which shows up after the election and says marxist obama is really
a "centrist". Of course that is another lie, there are no
"centrists". One only need look at a politicians voting record to
discern if they are a conservative or a marxist. There is no in
between. And all of the shallow, fake poseurs will be discovered
and weeded out.
martin j smith| 2.12.11 @ 1:49PM
Anyone who goes into public life who does not realize that they
will be scrutinized closer that a million power microscope should
re-consider. And those who ignore this reality are fools, and we
are fools for having trusted them. There is a need to vet
candidates very thoroughly so that if there baggage is too heavy
they are not hired for the job.
firebrand| 2.12.11 @ 2:29PM
Possibly that is what Chris Lee was looking for - - to get
screwtinized. The disgusting aspect of this is when Republicans are
caught, the go on TV - all reading from the same mea culpa script.
" I have let down my family, my constituents and my God." Well, my
God! Did this not occur to you day before yesterday?
Ted Kennedy and Chris Dobbs never had to own up to anything at
all. Barney Frank gives some insane explanation that he was
mentoring a drug addicted person he felt - - sorry for.. Gerry
Studds defied Congress and got away with it.
And pore old Henry Hyde crippled with old age, finds himself
apologizing for a fling in 1940.
Occam's Tool - if you are in a crouch, waiting to correct me on
1940 or some other detail, I am generalizing again.
I am merely saying experience does not teach Republicans that
they cannot get away with it. The reason being, you cannot claim
the high road and walk in the gutter. If the gutter is your natural
habitat, your constituents must approve.
bee free| 2.13.11 @ 12:32AM
---AT this, the 11th hour of Globalist-doomed
POST America, the Republicans, at best, worship
not even things as they are, but things as they appear to be (i.e.
playing the false paradigms
of Left/Right while one and all are bankster
Globalist fronts).
Turning to franchise slum icons such as Trump
ain't gonna' stench the flow of blood.
A MAJOR HURL of all Globalist and EUGENICS
frontmen from Republican, and ideally ALLLL
American political ranks, is urgently called
for (--that would include McCain, Gingrich,
certainly the Bushes et al).
"REMEMBER, 'Free Trade', Globalism and
EUGENICS are always intertwined. ALWAYS.
ALWAYS. ALWAYS..."
-ALan Watt
Cutting Through the Matrix
(online)
-------ALWAYS
Who Cares!| 2.14.11 @ 4:13AM
Maybe his wife was a prude, maybe she would not swallow. Who
cares? Women should be a girlfriend to their husband or they will
find someone who will. Or maybe he was a hopeless philanderer.
But who cares. It does not reflect on his character or political
knowledge and abilities one iota.
And that guy who claims all thoese politicians never got a
little action on the side--I call bullshit. How do you know if the
old drunk US Grant and the others (many of whom are of no
consequence (LeMay?)) never got any?
Claudia Monteverdi| 2.14.11 @ 3:56PM
My Dear Jay,
I just stumbled upon this splendid article. Splendid in it's
wrenching analysis of mankind and man's eternal predeliction, his
lust for the unknown..splendid in every respect but thin
immemorable (that can NOT be a word) quote...."the average of other
women lags behind the average of wives in every area: looks,
intelligence, social skills, personality, demeanor, not to mention
achievement and dignity....." Just when I was begining to look
forward to being that "other woman", I discover that her career and
moral rewards are shoddy and not worth having...Dammit Jay, another
dream shattered....As to that Congressman what's his face...Frankly
Jay, who gives a rat's ass?
Love,
Claudia
Mad Hatter| 2.17.11 @ 4:54PM
To halt Democrats' spending with impunity,
Repubs voted with Tea Partiers in unity.
"Don't raid," our behest,
"The Community Chest!"
So Lee showed his chest to the community!
Mad Hatter| 2.17.11 @ 5:00PM
There was a Congressman from Upstate,
Who felt that as a mature guy, he'd rate.
Did a Craigslist check,
Now his life's a wreck.
It wasn't just a check, but check-mate!
We also had a hockey player who took nekkid photos of himself
and TEXTED them to people and then was shocked when he became a
laughingstock and was shuffled out of town.
Appleby| 2.11.11 @ 6:42AM
You are expecting a man to keep his clothes on and think of something besides sex, when everything he sees and hears tells him that sex should be the total focus of life?
When every second commercial is for a product to disguise his gray hair and prop up his droopy wee-wee -- even commercials starring his two little daughters urging him to GettaGirlNow by using these products -- obviously the whole idea that there is more to life than sex has gone right down the memory hole.
Its all there in Aldous Huxleys *Brave New World* -- keep the folks boys and girls, focus them on sex, drugs, and entertainment (and tell them they NEED these things every day or they will DIE) and never give them any time or inclination to be alone with a good book and their thoughts -- and this is what you will get: an army of teenaged brats -- forever.
You wanted it: You got it.
canuckistani| 2.11.11 @ 7:42AM
When are we going to grow up and realize what happens in a man's bedroom, or mind, for that matter, with regards to sex is completely detached from his political and practical contributions to the state.
People are afraid to admit men can actually compartmentalize these acts.
My issue with Lee and others like him, is that they were elected on the false premise of social conservatism - like giving a lollipop to a baby, they use their faux morality to a) extort the GOP nomination and b) bamboozle the electorate that they are somehow fitter than they are in the quiet of their minds.
His ACU rating was second only to King in the NY caucus, he was doing his part. But the continued pandering to the pollyannas in the party leave the scortched earth we have now and Boehner and his cabal of idiots left with a hole in a yankee state.
Ryan| 2.11.11 @ 8:39AM
If a man is incapable of making good, simple, moral choices in his personal life - like NOT CHEATING ON YOUR WIFE, then he cannot be trusted to make good moral choices in government.
Morality cannot be compartmentalized.
PCC| 2.11.11 @ 9:01AM
So you say. Personally, I think your view is the kind of hypocritical moralising that led to the Salem witch trials, or their modern equivalent of preachers found in motel rooms with underage boys and girls.
PaulyD| 2.11.11 @ 9:14AM
Standard lame liberal straw-man argument. Lump it in with the conservatives don't believe in global warming so they must by Nazis trope.
So tiresome.
PaulyD| 2.11.11 @ 9:16AM
Correction: that would be "be Nazis"...
Ryan| 2.11.11 @ 2:10PM
Everyone is a hypocrite to their own ideals. The issue here is not being a complete idiot about it and stupidly acting on impulses.
Men should stay faithful to their wives. Period. Public office or not, that's the standard.
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 6:48PM
I wouldn't want a pedophile as my Congressman, either. One Gerry Stubbs was quite enough, thank you.
The greatest Roman emperors kept things fastened well there, as did our greatest Presidents and Generals, other than FDR. (Lincoln---Mary; Wahington---Martha, Reagan---mommy. Grant was also uxorious, as was Marshall ---and our greatest generals. I don't recall Marcus Aurelius fooling around, and Livia ran Augustus' life.)
Of course, Churchill was also quite faithful.
Pelligrino| 2.11.11 @ 12:44PM
Very well and succinctly presented. Thank you, Ryan.
Real men adhere to fundamental tenets like those expressed during the Promise Keepers rallies.
skip| 2.11.11 @ 2:01PM
That always bugged me about the Clinton Lewinsky affair.
Liberals argued his sex life had nothing to do with running the country.
I thought if the guy would lie and cheat to his spouse, who he vowed to be faithful to before friends, family, and God almighty, how in the world can you trust him to even grocery shop or take out the trash much less lead the nation. He has proven he is untrustworthy to his spouse but rest assured all us strangers can trust him?
Liberals are so unintelligent and dishonest it defies simple common sense.
Purpleguy| 2.12.11 @ 2:06AM
and yet, more Republicans are diminished by their own sexual proclivities. they don't practice what they preach and that's the difference.
axbucxdu| 2.12.11 @ 11:39AM
Yup, it's funny how the MSM prioritizes the use of their ink and air-time, ain't it? OTOH, the libs' principles are based on immorality, so their "foibles" are excused by default.
skip| 2.12.11 @ 2:53PM
and yet, one more post screaming of unintelligence and dishonesty from the poster whose moniker screams of sexual proclivities involving homosexual one way sewer pipe abominations.
and yet, all Republicans and all Democrats and all Libertarians and all Independents and all of the any other political affiliations have never practised what they preached without fail, yet more of those of the conservative bent have at least acknowledged this hypocrisy, while more of those of the liberal bent have pretended this hypocrisy doesn't even exist, and that's a monumental difference.
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:19PM
This is so true... Public morality is private morality writ large.
Honesty, integrity, and loyalty can not be only in one sphere of one's life. They are either throughout the whole, or they are absent.
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:20PM
This is so true... Public morality is private morality writ large.
Honesty, integrity, and loyalty can not be only in one sphere of one's life. They are either throughout the whole, or they are absent.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 10:04AM
Canuckistani,
AS thinks only the wealthy can have a good time, it is hopeless for America. "As long as you don't get caught" is their slogan.
Everyone from Spiro Agnew to this mental midget Lee got caught; their mistake was getting caught. There are guys at AS who never got caught, and that is what counts, making sure their wives didn't know they were 'doing it' on business trips.
Publius2011| 2.13.11 @ 1:01PM
Alan is even more incoherent than usual. Thanks for playing, Alan.
Clint| 2.11.11 @ 10:14AM
The New Morality Is The Old Immorality Condoned.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 10:50AM
The Services are a great place to 'do it'--
especially the Navy.
Why, you can get anything you want in the Navy-
anyONE.
Clint| 2.11.11 @ 1:47PM
Uh Oh !
Brooks Is Auditioning For The Village People.
You Go Girl!
skip| 2.11.11 @ 2:04PM
Bet his favorite was the cop.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 2:23PM
Clint,
your impersonating bloggers at AS (Margie, me, perhaps others) was worse than what Lee did.
Clint| 2.11.11 @ 2:48PM
I got $1000.00 that says it wasn't me Brooks.
Someone is Punking You & laughing about You focusing on Me.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 3:28PM
Then I apologize. Marge said she heard that it was you, but she doesn't blog here anymore so there's no way to know.
Anyway, my view of sex, any sex, is that is no big deal either way. And this imbecile Lee didn't even get to take his pants off in front of the camera-- he is a failure even just as an exhibitionist. Lee isn't a bad guy, he is merely a clown.
Clint| 2.11.11 @ 5:01PM
Thank You.
Carry On.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 6:11PM
Lee-gate is 'harmless', like watching a bad TV show; think of it, Lee takes his shirt off (with a sh*t-eating look on his face) and now he'll end up writing a book about it:
"Baring My Soul, Layer By Layer"; then he will appear on Oprah to plug it. Hugh Hefner writes the preface. And Lee lives happily ever after.
Hypocracy| 2.14.11 @ 4:17PM
What really gets me is think what would happen if this guy was a liberal. He would lie, lie and the Demoncraps and media would circle the wagons and defend him until he gets Charlie Wrangel's post in the powerful "ways and means committee". How much of what Republicans have to go through that Demoncraps never see. Do you see a double-standard anywhere here?
Melvin| 2.11.11 @ 7:15AM
The Mrs. and I were musing the other day, and after many years of marriage, I have come to the conclusion that a person either has infidelity in them or they do not.
Many men and women seem unable to help themselves in straying, while many others can stay with each other till death do them part.
If I was to take a picture of myself the way that fool Congressman did, I would probably need an IMAX panoramic camera, and then it still would be dicey.
No greater sin to a marriage is infidelity. Most marriages can recover from money problems, family problems, and the other things that pull the fabric of marriage apart.
It all boils down to trust. If a person's wife or husband can trust them, then the constituents can trust em.
The 212 Congress just convened and the Republicans already have their middle aged Rico Suave's falling by the way side.
This fool Putz has lost the respect of his children, family on both sides, constituents, and his wife.
canuckistani| 2.11.11 @ 7:47AM
RR is the ONLY divorced president in history.
He split over work with a union, then he flip-flopped and became a middle-of-the-road conservative. Careful who we quote.
Lee was a top quartile conservative on what matters - policy. He's gone, and a strong district could now be 23rd -ed by the Baggers.
Thank the ladies of temperance league for forcing good candidates to drink the pollyanna Kool-aid to get elected.
jothepro| 2.11.11 @ 8:35AM
Hey canuckistani,
BC was the only president to get a blo_ job in the oval office.And he flip-flopped over welfare. Big deal. What's your point? Middle of the road my ass. Is there smoke in the air where you are at?
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 10:55AM
Canukistani doesn't know that the wealthy OWN America and always will. But instead of wealthy whites owning it, the wealthy of all races will;
we have a black president now-- and that's a start.
Appleby| 2.13.11 @ 7:27AM
The heirarchy in Canada are like the old Soviet -- the apparatchiks run things and steal and lie and play around and sometimes get caught and booted; the nomenklatura steal and lie and play around openly, and are constantly re-elected, and in fact kids long to grow up and BE them --and everyone else is a resentful prole fighting over the scraps left behind.
How can he opine on American standards when he has never experienced life in a republic?
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:23PM
Jane Wyman had two marriages and two divorces under her belt before she married Reagan.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 2:49PM
The way you all write, it's as if Lee had actual sex by way of Craigslist.
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 6:50PM
RR divorced, but he was uber faithful to Nancy.
Louis Jenkins| 2.11.11 @ 8:27AM
Another Republican done gone! One should be careful sending out text messages with your picture attached. In fact, one shouldn't do it at all. Chances are he's done it before, only this one brought attention. When one is elected to an office he should walk the straight and narrow. In fact, he should have never done that. I have to agree with the writer, it takes a certain kind of man to hold office. Chris Lee has proven he is not that man.
Appleby| 2.11.11 @ 11:35AM
That's the mistake the GenYners keep on making over and over and over. Our local Chairman of the TTC was making a run for Mayor when one of his mistresses published his emails to her -- the moron was sending her TEXT MESSAGES that said the woman he was living with was only a prop to make him look good in front of the press! These stupid brats cannot get their limited attention around the fact that things you broadcast go EVERYWHERE and last FOREVER.
(We also had a hockey player who took nekkid photos of himself and TEXTED them to people and then was shocked when he became a laughingstock and was shuffled out of town.)
Kids, If you have to make a whore of yourself, don't put it in writing and send copies to the entire planet.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 2:50PM
But Lee only took his shirt off-- not his pants!
Appleby| 2.13.11 @ 7:28AM
He got caught before he could go farther.
Consertive View| 2.11.11 @ 8:34AM
Some TV star (I forget who) once said, "Fame brings you to the point where you start to believe that the law no longer applies to you." So too power. We take an average man, put him in a position of power, and before long he begins to think, such laws, such moral edicts, no longer apply. I don't condem the man, I don't even pity him. We expect as citizens of this country that our political leaders, and our military personel all behave like saints, but politics like war are not places where saints long survive.
Did he have to go? Yes. He had to go because the crossed the line in public. His tarnished soul was shown. All of us have tarnished souls in one way or another. All of us have weaknesses of one sort or another. So let's not stone the man, but perhaps give him a ticket out of town. His sin was human. Our forgivness should be freely given. We can forgive but not condone
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 4:35PM
This is the 'funniest' (depending how lowdown one's sense of humor is) scandal:
"Ohio Gym Teacher Had Sex With Football Players, Say Court Docs"
All of them? at one time??
On the field? or in the locker room? Did they remove their uniforms, or only pull their trousers down? The big question:
Were they all wearing their shoulder pads?
MikeD| 2.11.11 @ 8:36AM
Although Mr. Lee has made a fool of himself, why is it that suddenly, as a Republican, he is now reviled and excoriated? If he were a democrat nobody would know or care because the media would bury it. Good old prez. 'Bubba: told a whole generation that doing what he did with Monica was "NOT SEX WITH THAT WOMAN!". If a Republican had lied like that he'd have been ridden out of town on a rail; yet the media and their accomplists tell us that it was "...just sex. Why get our panties in a wad over it; it's not like he did anything wrong."
But let a Republican show his sagging chest in a mirror and the Republic is shaken to the core.
Rep. Lee was really stupid and certainly made himself look like a fool while disgracing himself and messing up his marriage. But why is it so different from what is regarded as normal behavior in D.C.? The double standard is just another tactic used by the REAL morally bankrupt; ie, liberals and their fellow liars who have been proven to do ANYTHING to get and maintain power.
Conservative Bob| 2.11.11 @ 10:54AM
Mike the difference is we claim to stand for something while the dems do not. The left uses the hypocrisy hammer on us with glee. We dare to speak out for a value system that recognizes definable right and wrong so anytime anyone on our side falls short they use it to tarnish us all.
Those on the left twist our belief in a moral code into a claim of perfection, rather than a pursuit of perfection so to them anytime one on our side falls short they can gleefully point to our hypocrisy.
I do not know the broad circumstances of this particular situation but when he disgraced himself and his family he had no alternative but to resign.
The difference between us and them is that we recognize that having a strong moral standard guiding people’s behavior society is improved even though we recognize that the standard is unattainable for every person at all of the times. The limit it places on the general behavior is a net positive for our social order. The Left on the other hand seeks to remove any standard and to justify and accept any behavior as an individual decision. It explains why choice is their mantra in all things moral. Choice or the elimination of all moral standards is their holy grail. It is this drive to tear down any and all moral codes that has brought our society to its present place.
In the end it is not a double standard but the battle between good and evil. It is how a man who, at best, left his campaign aid to drown in a car can be memorialized as the Lion of the Senate, how the other half of the waitress sandwich can with a straight face pontificate on the immorality of greed in our economic system and how a man from whose home a male prostitution ring was run can claim to be the defender of the poor and down trodden.
While Lee’s behavior is disappointing, he will not be the last others will be tempted and will fall. Our victory will not be found in loosening the standards and principles we strive for, but in find others who share them to take the place of those who fail. Our founders rightly knew that our system required men of principle and character in order to work as designed. We have only to look at the democrats and progressive left to see what comes of the alternative.
The fact that republicans resign when their human failings are exposed and dems mostly do not is not evidence that there is a double standard but rather confirmation that we have standards.
ncatty| 2.11.11 @ 12:11PM
Good post.
jolizoom| 2.11.11 @ 6:11PM
Bob, excellent.
TS| 2.12.11 @ 11:25AM
Excellent! Best post I have read in months (and that is among some lofty company).
cuban pete| 2.12.11 @ 11:56AM
Well done.
Thank You.
Deborah D| 2.11.11 @ 9:07AM
My biggest beef with folks such as Lee is -- if you're stupid enough to post a picture of yourself online in an attempt to "get a date" -- the sheer stupidity of that act should (and did) get you fired. If you make those kinds of stupid decisions in your private life then what kind of stupid decisions are you making in your public life?
stmichrick| 2.11.11 @ 9:12AM
What is most revealing about this tale is how stupid the guy was. Imagine him giving that kind of forethought on policy matters. Such a moron.
Moral blindness crosses party lines but is treated differently. The Party of Standards' sin is branded hypocritical. The Party of No Standards' mistake is branded compartmentalized.
Bob K.| 2.11.11 @ 9:50AM
Our democracy has been dumbed down.
Smart politicians understand celebrity and use it in ways to enhance their power not destroy it. A competent politician keeps things simple and in focus. He or she does not do things that lets the electorates collective mind wander off focus unless there are political reasons to do so. Lee forgot this, or never learned it or was unable to control it. In any case he could not be an effective leader for his district which is in Western NY and probably is in the economic dregs. Upstate NY is a disaster area not unlike the state of Michigan.
Bob Miller| 2.11.11 @ 9:59AM
There is also a lot of "political adultery" going around, in which politicians fool and betray the steady supporters who put them in office and keep them there.
da monk| 2.11.11 @ 11:20AM
Have any of you conservative condemmers of politicans on left who have strayed considered that your idols on the Right have: 1) Newt asked his wife for a divorce when she was in the hospital recovering from her third surgery. 2) Henry Hyde confessed to an affair while condeming Clinton 3)
John McCain dumped his 1st wife after she was disabled in a car accident. Where were their morals which you justly accuse those malifactors lack? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
Appleby| 2.11.11 @ 11:36AM
My Mama always told me that "everyone else does it!" was not a defence. "YOU," she would say, "are not EVERYONE ELSE!"
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:26PM
Yes, Henry Hyde did... However, Clinton's impeachment was not because he had an affair, but because he lied under oath, among other things. You are drawing a false equivalence between the two cases, as so many did in 1997-1998 to obfuscate the charges against Mr. Clinton.
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:27PM
Newt has issues; no doubt about that. But have you noticed that he's not got a huge groundswell of conservative or GOP support for a potential Presidential run? There's a reason for it, and his behavior in the past has something to do with that.
Ted| 2.11.11 @ 1:28PM
And you will recall also that McCain took sole responsibility for the failure of his first marriage and he did so publicly.
Ryan| 2.11.11 @ 2:12PM
It doesn't make those decisions right or defensible.
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 6:51PM
I didn't want any of those three for President, but all of them would be better than Obama.
Old Joe| 2.11.11 @ 11:32AM
Da Monk is correct but the difference is that we conservatives hold our politicians to a high standard while the Democrats hold their politicians to no standard and winning is all that matters.
USAttorney| 2.11.11 @ 11:35AM
As conservatives I think we need to be more open to flaws within so we can fix them or understand why they don't need to be fixed/are subjective flaws. When we provide an umbrella of defense for all actions of a person, it makes the party look weak and partisan to a fault. DHS was not begun under Obama. Deficit spending did not magically expand under Clinton. In our own house we need to evaluate and speak with more unity on core, prioritized ideals. Since the SCOTUS wades into debates on abortion, and since the Senate has some clout with the budget, maybe our first focus is not on semantics or history lessons, but on a unified theme of budget cuts and fiscal restraint. Scaled layoffs, property sales to private enterprise, and initial reversion of powers back to the states and citizens.
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 11:57AM
Christopher Lee---what a horror show.
Pelligrino| 2.11.11 @ 12:25PM
Mr. Homnick, thank you. Good article and good admonition for ALL of us. All of us should be in some positions of responsibilities due to our work, our roles in our neighborhoods, our age, and just due to the fact that we are supposed to be role models.
Yes, that comes with aging. No excuses.
And certainly no excuses for those whose entire lives are funded by taxpayers.
What I want to know: Where would a Congressman, Senator, senior appointee, cabinet member, GS-14 or 15.....where would any of these people have the TIME for anything other than maybe a nap?
I expect them to life -- in the information age -- very dull, wonky lives. Sleeping takes 8 hours of your day. Personal hygene about an hour. Eating 1.5 - 2 hours (those power lunches, you see). Commuting to work: 1 hour.
So....let's see that just leaves....12 hours in the day -- at most -- in a perfectly flawless day.
Well, golly. Guess what, to those in leadership and senior management (in our Armed Forces too), we, the American Public do expect you to be working that solid 12-hour day. Week in, week out.
Sound just too dull for you? Good. Don't apply or position yourself for these vital jobs. Stay away.
If you have some time on Saturday, well, be reading. Yes, no fiction allowed. Be reading all those briefs, memos, recommendations, studies, pieces of legistlation, pieces of proposed regulation, maybe the Constitution....
Thus, there's no time in the day EVER for texting, updating your Facebook page, viewing potential hookups on Match.com, a little private chat with your college intern, seeing your surreptitioius Yahoo email account with your Ashley Madison date's response....now is there?
Shouldn't the 'Cyber Sergeant at Arms' at the Capitol be blocking IPs from certain web locations? (I guess we have to because these morons cannot control themselves.)
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 3:36PM
Taking one's shirt off (for a male that is), is NOTHING. At the beach guys do so every day. Right now, in FL. & CA., millions of guys are shirtless.
Conservative Bob| 2.11.11 @ 4:00PM
I think the point is not that he took his shirt off but that as a married man he took it off in an effort to facilitate a liaison with someone other than his wife. I could be wrong.
Alan Brooks| 2.11.11 @ 4:43PM
I was joking, Bob; it's silly, this particular scandal.
It isn't tragic, as the Joey Buttafuoco- Amy Fischer scandal was (a woman was shot);
Lee is a comic figure.
Conservative Bob| 2.11.11 @ 7:03PM
Lee unfortunately is a fool.
If hhe is remebered at all it will be as a punch line...
firebrand| 2.11.11 @ 5:39PM
What I noticed about the "studly" Chris Lee's picture was, he was "sucking in his gut". Lied about his age, lied about his marital status and even tried to lie about his solar plexus! Notice the unfortunate resemblance to Jim Bakker - Tammy Faye's wayward husband?
It is always the nerdy, Bible-thumping anti-abortion guys who are looking for lust in all the wrong places. (Read Mark Souder, who is currently back resuming his walk with the Lord).
Just another Christian choirboy gone wrong.
At least, Wilbur Mills was not claiming to be anything but a hircine, old Arkie, when he was splashing in the Tide Pool with Fanne Fox.
And I am not a lib/troll invading TAS space. I am an 83 year old conservative observer of Republican bumbling, screwing up our shaky majority in a time when we need it.
Republicans just don't know how to get away with it and they should quit trying.
stmichrick| 2.13.11 @ 11:19AM
Hey firebrand; a couple of questions.
Why is it that hypocrisy is the worst sin in all of these sordid episodes?
You are saying that professing no standards of behavior is superior morally than professing some and failing?
I'll give you that Lee looks foolish and nerdy but was he, in fact, a Bible thumping anti-abortion guy, or you assume that because of his party?
Why is believing that killing humans before birth to be wrong worse than trying to cheat on your spouse?
Just wondering.
firebrand| 2.11.11 @ 5:59PM
for "da monk" - -
You left out that Newt dumped the dour Marianne for the aide he was fooling around with. I believe the aide was Calista, the current wife (correct me if I'm wrong) -who appears regularly with New,t hawking the books they churn out, one after the other.
Diogenes only had to look for an honest man. If we are looking for one who can keep his pants zipped, we better get a long-burning lantern!
Occam's Tool| 2.11.11 @ 7:13PM
Here are some excellent Western Leaders, both politicians and generals, who could keep their pants zipped: Churchill. Lincoln. Grant. John Adams. John Quincy Adams. Truman. Sherman. Teddy Roosevelt. Marshall. Coolidge. Reagan (after marrying Nancy). LeMay. Antoninus Pius. Marcus Aurelius.
I could go with quite a few others, if I worked at it. It's not impossible. For example, John Bolton (my 1st 10 choices for President) seems to have a responsible private life, proving that massive size and fidelity CAN go together.
firebrand| 2.12.11 @ 12:19AM
OK, Occam's Tool - is there any length to which you would not go to prove someone speaking in general terms, wrong? You know very well, I was speaking of the the current crop. What scalpel do you use for splitting hairs?
It was a far reach back into history for you to find a little fidelity! You don't even know if the ones you cite were opposed to dalliance or merely more discreet.
John Bolton happens to be my choice, too. And do you know why he would probably not get elected? Because we are such a superficial electorate - pushovers for the cosmetic. The white mustache would go against him. When have we had a president with a mustache in recent times? When have we ever had one with a white mustache and darker hair?
I don't know if you happened to see Bolton one night on Greta Van Susteren's show when he was a guest along with a liberal know-nothing blow-hard . At he end of the set-to, Greta said to Bolton, "I'll give you the last word to respond to what he thinks." Bolton said, "Nah, I don't care what he thinks." And that was the end of the interview. The put-down of the millennium! I about strangled on my coffee, laughing. I could just see him as President, blowing off a stupid question by a White House journalist.
A lunatic country that voted for "Tiger Woods in a GQ suit" would miss the boat with Bolton over his mustache.
MikeN| 2.12.11 @ 1:51AM
What did Reagan know about his son that he felt such advice was needed? Like Kerry's mom telling him 'integrity integrity integrity"
firebrand| 2.12.11 @ 3:54AM
If just once, one of these Congressional wives would call a press conference, sweetly ask her husband to be by her side; turn and kick him in the shins, saying,"There, amend that!" and walk away. They never do.
335blues| 2.12.11 @ 11:18AM
It is no longer surprising that there are shallow, fake poseurs in politics, even in the republican party. There are lots of pretenders out there- remember arlen spector? He was a liberal pretending to be republican. Remember the myth of the moderate democrat? The last two years have exposed that myth quite clearly to be a lie (think claire mccaskill). How about the two john mccains? There is the fake john mccain that appears every six years pretending to be a conservative, then there is the real john mccain which shows up after the election and says marxist obama is really a "centrist". Of course that is another lie, there are no "centrists". One only need look at a politicians voting record to discern if they are a conservative or a marxist. There is no in between. And all of the shallow, fake poseurs will be discovered and weeded out.
martin j smith| 2.12.11 @ 1:49PM
Anyone who goes into public life who does not realize that they will be scrutinized closer that a million power microscope should re-consider. And those who ignore this reality are fools, and we are fools for having trusted them. There is a need to vet candidates very thoroughly so that if there baggage is too heavy they are not hired for the job.
firebrand| 2.12.11 @ 2:29PM
Possibly that is what Chris Lee was looking for - - to get screwtinized. The disgusting aspect of this is when Republicans are caught, the go on TV - all reading from the same mea culpa script. " I have let down my family, my constituents and my God." Well, my God! Did this not occur to you day before yesterday?
Ted Kennedy and Chris Dobbs never had to own up to anything at all. Barney Frank gives some insane explanation that he was mentoring a drug addicted person he felt - - sorry for.. Gerry Studds defied Congress and got away with it.
And pore old Henry Hyde crippled with old age, finds himself apologizing for a fling in 1940.
Occam's Tool - if you are in a crouch, waiting to correct me on 1940 or some other detail, I am generalizing again.
I am merely saying experience does not teach Republicans that they cannot get away with it. The reason being, you cannot claim the high road and walk in the gutter. If the gutter is your natural habitat, your constituents must approve.
bee free| 2.13.11 @ 12:32AM
---AT this, the 11th hour of Globalist-doomed
POST America, the Republicans, at best, worship
not even things as they are, but things as they appear to be (i.e. playing the false paradigms
of Left/Right while one and all are bankster
Globalist fronts).
Turning to franchise slum icons such as Trump
ain't gonna' stench the flow of blood.
A MAJOR HURL of all Globalist and EUGENICS
frontmen from Republican, and ideally ALLLL
American political ranks, is urgently called
for (--that would include McCain, Gingrich,
certainly the Bushes et al).
"REMEMBER, 'Free Trade', Globalism and
EUGENICS are always intertwined. ALWAYS.
ALWAYS. ALWAYS..."
-ALan Watt
Cutting Through the Matrix
(online)
-------ALWAYS
Who Cares!| 2.14.11 @ 4:13AM
Maybe his wife was a prude, maybe she would not swallow. Who cares? Women should be a girlfriend to their husband or they will find someone who will. Or maybe he was a hopeless philanderer.
But who cares. It does not reflect on his character or political knowledge and abilities one iota.
And that guy who claims all thoese politicians never got a little action on the side--I call bullshit. How do you know if the old drunk US Grant and the others (many of whom are of no consequence (LeMay?)) never got any?
Claudia Monteverdi| 2.14.11 @ 3:56PM
My Dear Jay,
I just stumbled upon this splendid article. Splendid in it's wrenching analysis of mankind and man's eternal predeliction, his lust for the unknown..splendid in every respect but thin immemorable (that can NOT be a word) quote...."the average of other women lags behind the average of wives in every area: looks, intelligence, social skills, personality, demeanor, not to mention achievement and dignity....." Just when I was begining to look forward to being that "other woman", I discover that her career and moral rewards are shoddy and not worth having...Dammit Jay, another dream shattered....As to that Congressman what's his face...Frankly Jay, who gives a rat's ass?
Love,
Claudia
Mad Hatter| 2.17.11 @ 4:54PM
To halt Democrats' spending with impunity,
Repubs voted with Tea Partiers in unity.
"Don't raid," our behest,
"The Community Chest!"
So Lee showed his chest to the community!
Mad Hatter| 2.17.11 @ 5:00PM
There was a Congressman from Upstate,
Who felt that as a mature guy, he'd rate.
Did a Craigslist check,
Now his life's a wreck.
It wasn't just a check, but check-mate!
Reebok| 8.11.11 @ 3:51AM
is good
العاب| 4.11.12 @ 4:30PM
We also had a hockey player who took nekkid photos of himself and TEXTED them to people and then was shocked when he became a laughingstock and was shuffled out of town.