The first rule of political pandering: Know what you're talking
about.
The first rule of political pandering: Know what you're talking
about.
The classic example: In 2004, Sen. John Kerry, trying to
bolster his regular guy image, spoke of Green Bay's hallowed
";Lambert Field." It's Lambeau Field. Ten dork points for
Kerry.
This week, Michelle Obama walked into a culinary version
of the Lambert gaffe.
In an e-mail congratulating Charlotte, N.C., on being
named host city for the 2012 Democratic National Convention, Obama
mentioned that Charlotte has "great barbecue." As someone who grew
up an hour from Charlotte, I can tell you that few natives would
say that. Nobody travels to Charlotte for the barbecue. It might
have a good barbecue restaurant or two, but the really good stuff
is outside of the city.
Obama's been mocked for the obvious pander, as she should
have been. But to me the offense wasn't her ignorance of North
Carolina's barbecue geography. It was her blatant violation of the
second rule of political pandering: Don't pretend to like something
you don't.
Michelle Obama is America's No. 1 Food Nanny. Her top
priority as First Lady is to end "the epidemic of childhood obesity
in America." When she launched that initiative a year ago this
month, she announced the creation of letsmove.gov, which provides
tips to parents and community leaders on making kids healthier. One
recommendation to municipal officials is: "Create a healthy food
promotional campaign, and offer a 'healthy eating' designation to
restaurants who offer healthier food and beverages and
reasonably-sized portions."
There isn't a self-respecting barbecue joint in the South
that could win that designation. North Carolina barbecue joints
sell hush puppies (fried cornmeal) and sweet tea that's close to
equal parts tea and sugar. And you don't want to think about the
calorie count in a single slice of pie or dollop of banana
pudding.
Michelle Obama praising Carolina barbecue? That's like
Gandhi praising mixed martial arts fighting.
Despite the hypocrisy, Michelle Obama means well. She
really, earnestly wants to save America's children from lives spent
savoring the joys of Twinkies, but missing out on the joys of
scoring the winning goal or leaping, à la Rudolph the Red-Nosed
Reindeer, and exclaiming, "She said I'm cuuuuute!"
And to Obama's credit, she has said that it's OK to
indulge now and then in a sweet or some high-fat food. But that
implies that it's not OK -- as an absolute rule, not a matter of
choice -- to have a burger, ice cream or barbecue sandwich often,
or at least more often than a government nutritionist -- even a
self-appointed one -- would recommend.
As even-handed as she has tried to sound, Obama has pulled
the government further in the direction of dictating our eating
choices. She already recommends that government officials tilt the
playing field in favor of restaurants that offer state-approved
"healthier" options. She has pressured Walmart into offering more
healthy foods. It is one small step to the government actively
limiting what we eat.
Also last week, a group of self-designated food police
launched a national campaign to "retire Ronald" McDonald because,
they say, he's making kids obese. And this comes shortly after San
Francisco passed an ordinance banning the inclusion of toys in
fast-food kids' meals on the theory that kids wouldn't like chicken
nuggets or French fries if they didn't come with a cheap, plastic
toy.
In her speeches, Obama makes a greater concession to free
will than the activists and San Francisco supervisors do. But she
doesn't fully endorse the idea that families ought to be free to
make their own decisions about what to eat. She thinks the
government should tell us what kinds of foods to eat, when, and in
what quantities.
She doesn't say the government should force those
decisions on us, but wittingly or not she is laying the groundwork
for that. And given that her husband just forced all of us to buy
health insurance, there is nothing legally or intellectually
standing in the way of this administration proposing federally
mandated healthy diets. The only obstacles are political: the
president wants to appear moderate, and Republicans control the
House. But should Democrats win big in 2012, what is to stop them
from banning Happy Meals and forcing barbecue joints to sell only
unsweetened tea and soy-becue? Certainly not their
ideology.
I would believe Michelle Obama's compliment to my home
state's unofficial state food if she actually stood up and defended
my right to eat it with whatever quantity, frequency and sauce I
wanted. Until then, I'll take mine with slaw, no sauce, and hold
the First Lady's opinions, please.
About the Author
Andrew Cline is editorial page editor of the New Hampshire Union Leader. His Twitter ID is Drewhampshire.
Serving hush puppies with BBQ?...culinary heresy....they should
only be served with fried catfish
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 8:25AM
Youse guys really hate the Obamas, don't you? In the '90s you
didn't even hate Hillary this much.
Jack Daniels| 2.4.11 @ 9:08AM
That's about right Alan. I'd take Hill over these two
sanctamonious hypocritical grifters any day.
But when you get down to it, there ain't much difference in the
two.
USSAlabama| 2.4.11 @ 1:35PM
Michelle Obama is fat and she knows it. Half of the Congress is
FAT and I see those fat ones walking through the halls with diet
cokes in hand. I'm going to stop being PC about FAT and come right
out and tell 'em.
Paul| 2.4.11 @ 2:49PM
While not particularly interested in Mrs. Obama, and certainly
not her fan or supporter, I have to ask: fat? really? Not even
chunky, or chubby, or plump, etc., but fat? I have to ask
about the semantic and aesthetic standards being used in this case.
Or are we just being mean?
beebop| 2.4.11 @ 6:45PM
I think the bigger issue is this: hubby was a fat, miserable kid
who was probably a fish out of water while living with mommy and
step pop and so was packed up and summarily sent to the bigoted
g'ma in Hawaii. He is painfully thin now and I believe it is over
compensation. Why don't they just work this out with their
spiritual advisor in Chicago?
USSAlabama| 2.5.11 @ 4:06PM
Hmmm. People who drink a lot of alchie are usually very
thin.
Paul, wish I could get you into a spot to see her in person.
Legs are logs. Huge.
Banana Puddin Head Wilson | 2.4.11 @ 9:37AM
You really hate George W. Bush, don't you? In the 80's you
didn't even hate Reagan this much.
Dustoff| 2.4.11 @ 9:37AM
No Alen...
Just proving how out of touch these two really are.
Sorry if the truth bothers you that much.
Remember what we heard from you jerks for 8 long years. Bush is
stupid.
Welcome to the party.
Finbarr Moran| 2.4.11 @ 11:16AM
Yeah, Alan, we all remember how Laura was always telling
Americans how to live.
She was always closing down DC streets to go to the grocery
store.
Rumor had it she was never proud of her country until George
became President.
She was nothing like the soft-spoken, unassuming Michelle.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 2:56PM
It's not that we hate the obamas, it's that we hate anybody
presuming they know what's best for us...and then trying to make it
into LAW! Look at the butt on michelle obama. If she's concerned
about obesity, she can start by looking right 'behind' her!
Libs are always trying to ban things they don't approve of
instead of just letting people alone. But, that's the 'lib' way. If
they don't like guns, they won't be content with not owning one,
they want to stop ANYBODY from owning one. It's the same way on
almost everything they get into their little pin heads. It's not
enough that they approve of homosexual's life choices; they have to
label us with nasty names and force us to accept them.
It's bad enough that they have this superiority complex; but
they must think they are wrong deep down because they scream and
cry and yell at anybody who disagrees with them.
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:22PM
garbage.
she just wants people to be healthy and live longer. unlike the
republican healthcare strategy: don't get sick but if you do, die
quickly. why? b/c that helps the bottom line of the insurance
companies.
aren't you glad that you now have a better shot at knowing how
many calories you are taking in when you go to a franchise
restaurant? you probably are so annoyed with that...
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:08PM
Try to remember one of my posts. I do not eat at fast food
joints. I have enough trouble eating anything at all. Try living on
a diet that mostly enters your body via tubes. I miss taste the
most. IVs and 'J' Tubes don't pass food near taste buds.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:18PM
Yes, Mike, but your posts are still Red Meat. Delicious and
Nutritious.
Actually, Gilbert, it is the Obamacare guys that want you to die
quickly. One of us was a senior consultant in an NHS in New
Zealand, and one of us wasn't. NHS sucks.
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 9:34AM
HEY EVERYONE!!! Alan Grayson stopped by to say 'hello.' How cool
is that.
I would like to know who the republican is that said "if you get
sick, die quickly" so I can send them a campaign contribution.
Obama said "just take the pill" but I don't think he's a
republican.
della street| 2.5.11 @ 1:31PM
Mrs. O's food initiative is a glaring payback to the SEIU. In
the first group of schools to recieve benefits, the plan is to
serve breakfast, lunch AND dinner. There will also be a summer
feeding program. This will require a full additional shift of food
service workers in each of the schools. To fund this program,
millions were 'taken' from the Food Stamp program.
I fail to see any actual goodwill in this, just politics as usual,
cloaked in 'it's for the children,' which is supposed to shut up
all disagreement.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:19PM
Mrs. O's major contribution to Healthcare in the city of Chicago
was depriving poor people of access to the University of Chicago's
clinics.
Kathy| 2.7.11 @ 4:27PM
Doesn't being obese have more to do with lack of activity -- as
well as life style -- families who've stopped preparing home cooked
meals and monitoring good nutrition in the home? This is not a
"political" problem, but more likely one that reflects a lack of
self-control and personal responsibility. When did the "government"
take the place of parents? Eating out occasionally doesn't create
obesity. Fast food restaurants or high fat/high calorie foods can
only affect you if you make the choice to use them a regular basis.
You really can't be serious to think that Michelle cares about any
of us living longer and healthier. What her message should be is
"everything in moderation"! Seems like she could be exercising some
self control of her own. Enough with the comments about "the
republican strategy" ... all corporations are in the business to
make money -- just ask Al Gore.
Jaded| 2.10.11 @ 6:35PM
Call me the ever pessimist but I'm more likely to believe that
they want us to live longer so we'll be around longer to pay
taxes!
Yosemeti Sam| 2.5.11 @ 12:14AM
" ... butt on michelle ...."
Could it be she is vying for title of Hottentot Venus West?
What kind of slim-fast chef they's got at the Peoples' White
House preparing food anyway?
LOL.
Nancy in NC| 2.4.11 @ 3:51PM
Not them specifically...just anyone that think they are
qualified to tell the rest of how to live. If I want to have
barbeque pork every night, I should have the freedom to do just
that. If it kills me, it's called thinning the herd.
True freedom means the liberty to make MY choices about MY life.
It also means buying MY insurance and paying bigger premiums if I'm
a big fat hog with high blood pressure. That's allowing me the
freedom to suffer the consequences of MY choices.
And after all, no matter what, all of us are going to
die...regardless. If some choose sooner than later, that's their
choice as well.
But I don't expect too many liberals will be able to get their
small minds around the concept of true freedom. They just love to
tell everyone else what to do too much.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:13PM
Real libs are TERRIFIED to die. They have convinced themselves
that this is all there is. That's why they don't want anybody
telling them that what they do might be bad or sinful or anything
with a negative connotation. Because, if there is no afterlife,
then we'd better do everything here, no matter what the Bible, or
the Koran, or the Torah, or mom and dad, or teachers (back when
teachers made sense and actually taught right from wrong) or
anybody else told us.
Since this life is all there is, nobody had better tell us we
can't do ANYTHING we want to. Well, I am not the least bit afraid
of dying, we're all going to do it at some time. There's an old
folk song with a line in it that goes like this: "I can swear there
ain't no Heaven, but I'll pray there ain't no hell." 'Nuff
said.
DaveS| 2.5.11 @ 10:47AM
It's deserved, Alan. But, I agree with you on the relative
merits: for being the smartest woman in the world, she did not
defeat the Kenyan - thanks in part to Operation Chaos!
Cincinnatius| 2.6.11 @ 1:06PM
I never miss a chance to opine on a poll on the Obamas as stated
by Alan: I don't hate the Obamas, I DESPISE them and everything
they stand for! Hope I wasn't too late with my response. The poll
is still open....right?
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 6:36PM
I'm Allan Brooks and I demand you pay attention to me and
validate my relevance. My mom says I'm the smartest most important
person in the world.
I bet your mom didn't knit you pajamas with feet in them or let you
stay in her basement rent free.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:39PM
'Hate', as in RACISM, DISENFRANCHISEMENT, GENTRIFICATION,
DISCRIMINATION, etc??????
vladdy| 3.12.11 @ 10:26PM
Your immaturity is showing. This is politics, not a scout
meeting where we all sing "Kumbayah." And it's not the person,
although he does come off as a jerk, it's the policies we're
fighting.
In other words, BO has every right to be a pompous, arrogant
jerk but we'r rather he not do it in the White House while he's in
the process of destroying the country piece-by-piece and handing it
out to the unions, his cronies on Wall St., and various third world
leaders.
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 9:01AM
While hush puppies and catfish do make a fine combination, I
assure you they are equally comfortable on a plate beside a heaping
helping of NC's finest porcine delicacy.
Stephanie| 2.4.11 @ 9:09AM
How right you are Big E, how right you are.
Pass the butter please?
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 9:15AM
Perhaps there is one thing we have in common, Big E:
N. Carolina is the one state in the South I like 100 percent. The
Outer Banks, Asheville, Junaluska (a Methodist retreat), Charlotte,
Chapel Hill, Wilmington.
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:00AM
You forgot Cary (containment area for relocated yankees). Please
stop visiting.
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 12:04PM
You forgot Cary (containment area for relocated yankees). Please
stop visiting."
Well... if you say so, ncatty, okay. Not even to Junaluska for a
Methodist retreat;
Methodists are too lib'ral for you, right?
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 12:23PM
It has nothing do with liberals. Just you.
Claypoole| 2.4.11 @ 5:00PM
Mr. Brooks: Next time you are in the Banks, try to get down to
Wanchese, a commercial fishing town, to Fisherman's Wharf
restaurant. It is owned and operated by a fishing family and
located just above the family's fish prep and packing facility. All
fresh fish, cooked to perfection, and the best hush puppies you
will ever eat. And, best of all, they are happy to serve
liberals.
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 6:37PM
My mom cooks for me and beside I has to stay in the basement
till she gets home so I don't hurt myself.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:41PM
Naturally, since N.C. [along with Va.] are the MOST
LIBERAL/PPRGRESSIVE of the southern states!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 2:57PM
I love Carolina Barbeque but I can't figure out where the cole
slaw came from.
Nancy in NC| 2.4.11 @ 3:53PM
The cole slaw is to cut the grease. Tastes good too.
Consertive View| 2.4.11 @ 10:08AM
Once while in the Navy I sailed my craft down the ICW in NC. The
cook was sick, so I pulled the Swamp Fox, (the name of my vessel)
against the most run down, ratty, wooden pier I ever did see.
Accross from the pier a run down shack of a resturant. I went to
have a look. Every face in the place was black, and a woman who if
three inches taller you would call round stood behind the
counter.
"You'all Navy boys come in and have some dinner, you hear
darlin?"
I went back aboard and told my crew, dinner ashore, uniform
tropical white long. They objected but changed anyway. Then the
whole crew went ashore.
Now what does this have to do with BBQ? Everything in the world.
I don't care about arguments over West and East, or Willimgton or
Charlotte or outerbanks. The best BBQ in the whole wide world was
in that run down shack of a resturant on the ICW. To say my crew
"pigged out" is an understatement.
As for Southern hospitality, why it wasn't long before the local
population heard "Navy Boys" were there, and the young ladies came,
and a scratch Black Blues Band, and my crew danced all night. I
didn't get back underway until the next morning at ten.
I can't tell you where that place is. I have tried finding it
now that I am retired. No such luck. But I can tell you, local BBQ
in the back waters of NC is the best BBQ you will ever find
anywheres.
Texas beef is good, I love a good steak. Chicken has its' place.
But the good Lord done smiled on North Carolinia and I know, deep
in my heart, that on ocasion he done come down and has himself a
heapin' of Southern BBQ in little back water resturants.
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:13AM
Was your craft a carrier? Just kidding. The ICW is pretty
shallow these days.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 2:58PM
Are you telling me you made your men eat BARBECUE in WHITES???
They must be lots neater "Q" eaters than I was back then!
Consertive View| 2.4.11 @ 3:26PM
Had I known dinner was BBQ I wouldn't have done it, but once I
found out it was too late to change the order. It did turn out for
the best in the end. The young ladies who came to dance all had
ways of getting the stains out of the jumpers, and were more than
happy to remove same to show us sailor boys how. But then, that's a
story a little off topic. LOL
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:15PM
I can only imagine...and smile. great story. Makes me feel human
again!
porko| 2.4.11 @ 1:17PM
Right you are about the hush puppies. If you go to Heavy's
Barbeque near Crawfordville, Georgia, they put loaves of white
bread on the table. Shreaded pork, Brunswick stew and white bread
is the Heavy way!
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 2.4.11 @ 6:25AM
You claim Michelle Obama means well. Does she?
Your article does a semi-good job of making her out to be a food
dictator which is what she is attempting, so in fact Michelle Obama
does not mean well.
Take it one step further. What are her credentials? Like Al
Gore, she has none. Al Gore is no scientist. If it weren't for
gullible idiots who believe in climate change Al Gore would
probably be making moonshine back in Tennessee.
It's the same with Michelle Obama. She comes out of nowhere,
hating her country, and suddenly she's an expert nutritionist
without credentials.
In that sense she's not even an elitist because an elitist
usually has some manufactured degree.
Michelle is probably setting herself up for the afterlife of
politics. Making herself look like an expert at something she has
no training for and no expertise. In Michelle's case it's about
slogans and syllogisms, i.e., if you ingest this that will
happen.
It's questionable to state that she isn't saying the government
should force us to eat something. Her husband is the government,
and if it weren't for that, she would be considered a meddlesome
busybody, as opposed to the voice of authority.
ENOUGH ROPE| 2.4.11 @ 8:33AM
The Dragon Lady could have claimed that Charlotte had the best
barbecued mastodon, and her arrogance would preclude any
embarrassment.
Mr. & Mrs. Smiling Cobra can say anything they want, because
Mr. Smiling Cobra believes that he can smile at us without our
noticing his sinking his lethal fangs into our rule of law, consent
of the governed, Judeo-Christian values, free market economy,
middle class, private property, national security, and our
traditional allies.
But gee by golly, he has such a flashy smile! He must be a good
guy!
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 9:21AM
"best barbecued mastodon,"
Which one? Bob Dole or John McCain?
W| 2.4.11 @ 9:33AM
Again, trying to deflect criticism of your favorite politicians
by making stupid, inane remarks about Dole and McCain, two men who
served our country in war, and are war heroes. Doesnt mean much to
a lefty like you. Ignore Brooks.
Finbarr Moran| 2.4.11 @ 11:20AM
Is this your assigned day to throw barbs, Alan.
Go back under your bridge, troll.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 3:00PM
Neither; grilled algore with a side of kerrypoo. Then covered
with a light coat of carter grease sauce over a bed of bubba
ooze.
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:29PM
Sounds like a bad, really bad case of heartburn waiting to
happen.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:17PM
Look at the case of heartburn it gave our country...and still
is! And we can't even barf it out! Maybe the analogy of waiting
till tomorrow and helping it come out the other end is oh so
appropriate!
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:44PM
What, no BBQ'd JACKASSES??????????
tag| 2.7.11 @ 9:48AM
Remember: ALL 'first' ladies MUST be involved in something -
food was the only thing michelle could think of so, even without
any qualifications an doing a little bit of fact gathering she
became an advocate for chillin' and their eating habits!
Ridiculous! Think about it - all presidents wives have to have a
hobby - this was hers! I had to laugh when I read that obama
'doesn't take it personally when people hate him - it's only
because they don't "know" him. Hey, prez, we hate you because we DO
know who and what you are - incompetent! Michell's rear end looks
like the broad side of a barn!
margie cutaia| 2.7.11 @ 11:08AM
you are correct except that michelle is the presidents wife she
hasn't any credentials to know
what she's talking about and by what authority
should she be giving advice - look at her butt?
Appleby| 2.4.11 @ 6:36AM
Poor Michelle is trying to find some way to elbow herself into
the midst of a culture she neither likes nor understands --
lurching from manhandling Royalty to slapping Goodies out of the
hands of babies, in an untutored and embarrassing attempt to
pretend not only that she is like us, but that she likes us.
I have no doubt we will see King Zero wearing a NA$CAR jacket at
some point, and that he will have picked a driver to photo-op with
that will make NA$CAR people say *Do WHUUUUT Now?* and snicker
behind their hands. (Somebody tell him that not only is Danicant
NOT a legitimate race car driver, having *won* only one race) but
her main sponsor, GoDaddy.com, is a well known host for
pornographers).
There is nothing sadder than watching ignoranti slumming.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 3:01PM
Howzabout a picture of mike dukakis in a tank?
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:29PM
garbage. nascar rocks though! dont pick on the only woman in
nascar!
i'm a kyle busch fan #18!!!
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:18PM
Finally something to agree on. See, there's hope!
gilbert| 2.6.11 @ 12:57AM
this does make me happy mike d. i love that the off season is
only a couple of months. feburary and we are back in business!
Frisbee| 2.4.11 @ 9:42PM
"slapping Goodies out of the hands of babies"
LOL Appleby!
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 2:50AM
He'll probably come to Lowe's country in a home depot jacket.
And just so you know, we don't snicker behind our hands. That's
rude. We laugh out loud, sometimes pointing.
FREE bee| 2.4.11 @ 6:39AM
----PLEASE, enough with the non-relevance
blizzards.
------------REALLY, PLEASE.
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 6:58AM
I despise Michelle Obama, but the premise of this article is
pretty dumb.
When most people say "Charlotte", they probably don't mean the
geographical and political entity known as "the City of Charlotte".
More likely, they mean that AND the surrounding areas to the north,
west, east, and south.
In fact, many people who don't technically live in the city
boundaries will still reply, when asked where they live:
"Charlotte".
In addition, there is a well-known style of barbecue known as
"Carolina-style". Are you actually implying that it's real hard to
find that somewhere in Charlotte?
There are MANY reasons to criticize the Obamas, but frankly,
this is weak.
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 8:34AM
As a lifelong, 325 pound resident of The Old North State, I feel
eminently qualified to "weigh in" here.
First of all, outside of the city of Charlotte, many of us here
refer to the Charlotte/Mecklenburg County area as the "Great State
of Mecklenburg," for reasons that are less than complimentary to
the general attitude of the City's leaders and leading
citizens.
Secondly, Doctor Right, while I generally admire your posts, I
feel you may have fallen into the same "pit" as the first lady, for
you see, there is not, "a well-known style of barbecue known as
'Carolina-style.'" There are TWO very distinct styles of barbecue
in North Carolina, eastern style - which is whole hog with a
vinegar based sauce, and western, or Lexington style, which is
shoulder only with a sauce that is sweeter and more tomato-y. And I
assure you, the difference DOES matter.
Personally, I grew up with - and still prefer - the Lexington
style, but over my many years of indulgence in all things pig, I
have developed a keen appreciation for both. In pursuit of that
appreciation, I have consumed the hallowed swine in all parts of
the state, and have found that wherever I go, I can always find a
good place to eat 'cue.
Except for one.
In all my years of gastronomic overindulgence, I have never had
a good plate of barbecue in Charlotte. Not once. At every so called
barbecue joint I've eaten in Charlotte, it was like I was eating
something designed primarily to not offend the palates of
out-of-state businessmen. Charlotte is, as far as I'm concerned, a
porcine wasteland, and its lack of good 'cue is probably the single
factor which, more than any other, shows how unlike the rest of the
state it is.
So, if you're down this way, and want the real McCoy, you've got
to get well outside of Charlotte - Shelby, Hickory, Lenoir, even
Winston-Salem. And of course (at this point everyone should remove
their hats and bow their heads in homage) - Lexington. Until you
have experienced what Lexington has to offer, you haven't fully
experienced the true splendor of God's creation.
I say this to you, not as a criticism of the First Lady (though,
I must ask, why in the world would anyone think a girl from Chicago
would know anything about where to find barbecue in North
Carolina?), but for the purposes of edifying your spirit, and
hopefully, expanding your horizons, and your waistline. Indeed,
this is not a political issue at all. I can honestly say that I
have never asked the pig its stance on healthcare, or the pitmaster
his feelings on the budget. Many a fight has begun and many a
family split over the issue of barbecue in North Carolina. But I
seriously doubt if either has occurred as a result of anyone taking
offense to comments made about their favorite barbecue joint
Charlotte, because frankly, from my experience, there is no
barbecue in Charlotte worth fighting for.
So you see, it's not a political issue at all. Really. It's far
more serious than that.
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:03AM
As a resident of Davidson County, of which Lexington is the
county seat, I heartily endorse your comments.
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 10:24AM
Well, it's kind of how I feel when I see "Maryland Crab Soup" on
a menu in Illinois...
...Regardless, for those of us who live in the 49 states that
AREN'T North Carolina, when someone says "Carolina Barbecue", it's
generally known to mean the "eastern" style you describe in your
post.
And it's still a weak issue to criticize Moo-chelle with, when
there's so many other more noteworthy issues out there...
Stoddard| 2.4.11 @ 1:32PM
Lexington barbecue rules. Especially the "red slaw."
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:33PM
I trust that wasn't a knock on BBQ from the Windy City and its
environs.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:22PM
I, myself, can't stand the vinegar based BBQ. We didn't have
that in 'Bama, but it was all we had in Kentucky. I appreciate the
fact that there are different tastes, but I have a soft spot for
'Bama BBQ. (and 'Bama.)
da monk| 2.4.11 @ 9:41AM
Dr Right (aka Dr No) You say, "I despise Michelle Obama". Why?
Do you know her personally? Did she do something to you personally
to give you reason to "despise" her. If not, maybe it be better you
say "I despise Michelle Obama food suggestions
because..." Keep the personal afronts out of the conversation and
be a legitimate Dr. Right and a gentleman.
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 9:51AM
Sorta like you Democrats never said anything personal about the
Bushs???
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 10:20AM
"da monk":
I'm sure you were no fan of GW Bush; why? Did he do something
personal to you??
I despise her because she is a sanctimonious poseur and a
hypocrite who has grown fat off of a country she hates, and who
criticizes the very people who have bent over backwards to help her
solely because her skin is brown. She proudly admitted that she'd
NEVER been proud of her country until her Party was dumb enough to
nominate her husband (an equally vapid and empty suit) to lead
them.
She's a foolish, spiteful, chip-on-the-shoulder leftist. In
short, she's an idiot.
Don't like my opinion, "monk"? Too bad. Deal with it.
Jack Daniels| 2.4.11 @ 2:14PM
Now Dr. Right, tell us how you really feel!
Damn, that was good and you echo my sentiments spot on.
Frisbee| 2.4.11 @ 9:45PM
Thanks for saying what we are feeling Dr R.
da monk| 2.5.11 @ 8:42AM
No, I am not a GW Bush fan, but I DO NOT DESPISE HIM! In fact if
I met him personally I bet you I would enjoy his company. He seems
to be a a very personable man. I just don't agree with his personal
political philosophy. I have no complaint that he's a Born Again
Christian. Even though I disagree with his religious philosophy.
Why should you have complaint about her skin color? What does that
have to do with her opinions? From your comments I can only surmise
you're a White Supremist and a chip the shoulder Rightest
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:24PM
I hate her because of her rank hypocrisy and evil. Making
$300,00 plus yearly to deny medical care to poor people and then
boasting about your concern for the poor is despicable. And
perfectly defines Michelle the scumbag. As a native of Chi-town,
yeah, I do take that personally.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:25PM
$300,000. Sorry. And, to answer the "Gilbert" below, I hate
Hitler, Goering, and Arafat, too---and have never met them.
Sometimes one can tell about someone from the STENCHHHHH!
vladdy| 3.12.11 @ 10:37PM
Do some research. From her paranoid Princeton paper
(alliteration intended) to her "proud of America" comment to
grabbing the Queen to her frequent jaunts with 30 or so friends,
there's a lot more to despise about Michelle than just her food
policies.
Why? Are you her official caretaker? This is politics; it's okay
to get personal. Remember the Bush days? Or if not, how 'bout
Palin?
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:30PM
how can you despise someone you don't know? you probably love
god too but have never met him.
weirdo.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:21PM
God never lied his way through an election. and, we ALL know
exactly where he was born. We're still not sure about barry. I'm
very confident that God loves me and is waiting for me. Barry and
his death panels want the authority to kill me and hurry me along
to my final reward. Who gave them that kind of power? Not us..
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 9:51AM
By that logic one can't despise Hitler or Pol Pot because we
don't know them. Can we admire people we haven't met? MOs actions
have defined what kind of person she is and to many she is worthy
of contempt by her actions, statements, and lack of class.
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 2:55AM
Bubba's Barbeque right off 77 on 21. Awesome food.
Ret. Marine| 2.4.11 @ 6:59AM
If she were not the impostors wife, I'd bet she would only raise
the hairs of a nobody with a penchant for being somebody. If only
horseshit was horsehairs. And lets not forget this little sweet
talk to the idiots out there a couple of years back, "barack is not
going to let you". you know the rest.
I can't make up my mind on of the two obamas Bin Lyn I despise the
most, the won who is constantly wrong every time he opens his pie
hole, or the one trying to convince me I should listen to the lies
he tries to sell to intelligent people, some thing they just don't
have a clue as to who they are. Anyway I'm with you on this one,
leave me the hell alone, I neither want or desire to hear from a
couple of nobody's who say nothing every time they think they say
something intelligent. In this life I'd rather talk to a story
teller, at least they have a line that can be followed and keep my
interest.
alice moore| 2.4.11 @ 9:36AM
Your quote of "Barack is not going to let you...." probably was
uttered by Pol Pot's wife; substituting Pol Pot for Barack, of
course.
Let's hope and pray that the American people do not suffer a
version of the Khmer Rouge. To paraphrase Edmund Burke, this is how
evil flourishes when good people do nothing.
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:35PM
Alice, 'fraid not. The First Klingon actually did utter those
words during the campaign.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:22PM
Didn't I tell you about that "Retired" stuff? All Marines are
ready and willing to serve, regardless of age or anything else.
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 2:57AM
Thank you
Chalkdust| 2.4.11 @ 7:11AM
So Mr. Cline, a slow news day is it? I mean a whole article on
....whats-her-name obama and BBQ? Golly, she's so far down on my my
list of ignorant/mean people that need a good hickory switchin', I
can't even get past those tacky garmets she wears to be bothered to
look for one.
vladdy| 3.12.11 @ 10:40PM
Yes, but it's March and she's hired a stylist now. (Why do I get
the feeling I'm paying for it? And what does that make...her 26th
or 27th personal staff member? She must be having a competition
with Obama and his czars.
Purple Lips| 2.4.11 @ 7:12AM
The First Lady only commented on a subject dear to her heart:
Chow. She loves food, and it tells.
"I like Big Butts...."
MoeBlotz| 2.4.11 @ 7:31AM
Perhaps Michelle My Butt should have added "..and great corn
likker".
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 2:58AM
She couldn't handle good moonshine.
Brian Mc| 2.4.11 @ 7:34AM
This incrementalism reminds me of the game we played as
children, "Red Light, Green Light". They attempt small steps while
we aren't looking but unfortunately for us, they don't go back to
the start when caught.
I am guessing that in Charlotte and its surrounding area that
one can indeed obtain "great barbecue." I recommend Ro's in
Gastonia.
This is rightwing cultural politics at its most asinine. and
that's saying alot.
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 9:26AM
Clark,
Sorry you aren't bright enough to appreciate satire. You must be
a Democrat. I suggest you take a pill and go back to sucking your
thumb.
Melvin| 2.4.11 @ 7:57AM
Many Black Americans are remigrating back to the South. Many of
these Americans are as nice as can be, because they despise the
Northern States. But Southern society can't have everything, there
are those few mostly from the urban environs of Detroit, Columbus
and the like that want to set up their thug shops and continue like
de was back in da hood.
We just had two idiots from Detroit get into a shootout and guess
what they are headed back to Detroit in Pine Boxes.
But this is just a side note, what Lady Michelle is doing is trying
to relive or re-inject herself and her husband as being with the
Civil Rights cause of the Martin Luther King days.
She wants to come down here in North Carolina and get all share
cropper on us, so she and her husband can give the illusion to the
Black Americans down here in North Carolina (The South) that they
stand in solidarity with them just like it was still 1960.
But there is one small problem with that premise. I live in NC and
it is a great place to live in-spite of the Democrats taxing us to
oblivion.
For the most part Blacks and Whites get along working, raising
families, having the same issues with teenagers ect.
We're starting to have allot of that single mother crap, but I
guess society really never gets away from that.
Personally I think that if the Barrack and Michelle show are trying
to fire up the Civil Rights struggle, it may fall upon deaf ears
for the most part.
Beside the fact that real honest to goodness NC barbecue is
fattening as hell, but I wouldn't trade it for all the rabbit food
in Michelle's garden.
When I came to the South, to make it my home, I quickly realized
that attending a Pig Pickin is the glue that draws North
Carolinians together. It is at social functions, family gatherings,
or just friends getting together to sit a spell and gossip.
North Carolinians are the salt of the earth in my book, not that
I'm partial mind you, but we're friendly, hospitable, and just
plain enjoy the simple things in life without all the hubbub of
technology, cell phones and IPads.
I have extreme reserverations of how much the DNC is going to stick
North Carolinians with the bill for their convention. The DNC has a
terrible track record of paying it's bills to the cities that host
it's conventions.
North Carolina is not Chicago, nor do we strive to be Yankees. I
hope that Michelle and Barrack come down here and embrace the
Southern hospitality and charm. Because the South did rise again,
it rose again as a better and stronger society but still keeping
it's Southern charm and roots.
The single most uttered comment is when Yankees come back down here
to live is, "Boy it's crazy up there, life down here is
slower."
For all my Yankee friends that I have here in American Spectator.
"Ya all come down here and sit a spell, I'll go in the house and
get some ice tea."
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:06AM
Are you trying to encourage migration here? Shhhh...
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 12:00AM
"Are you trying to encourage migration here? Shhhh..."
The West is best. Why do you think Palin loves Alaska? She is no
fool as far as her own livings go. That's why i think she might v.
well be POTUS someday. She is smarter than she seems.
Timothy L. Pennell| 2.4.11 @ 10:38AM
I hear you, my brother. We all get along, just fine, if we're
left to our own devices. It's the CIVIL LIBERTARIANS who's JOB it
is, to divide us. We play sports together. We WATCH sports
together. And we LEARN on our own, that we are the same.
DIVIDE and CONQUER. Rich vs. Poor. Black vs. White. Old vs.
Young.
Leave us alone and we'll be fine.
But they never will.
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 12:06AM
"Are you trying to encourage migration here? Shhhh..."
Only thing wrong w/ the South is its justice. If all those
convicted were guilty, then no problem- but the rate of innocent
convictions is far too high. Please: trial first, then sentence,
always. Every time an innocent is DNA-freed, that is millions in
comp.
And who pays for it?: look in the mirror.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:28PM
Must agree with you on this one, Alan. Attorneys are a verminous
breed in general (I'll except you, RCV), but Southern ones are a
certain brand of slime. America's two slimiest attorneys, Clinton
and Edwards, are Southern boys.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:48PM
Ah, yeah, they're all 'innocent', or haven't you heard the ACLU
[or SPLC] WORD yet [and the cow jumped over the moon, while the
dish ran away with the spoon]!!!!!!!!!!!
Nancy in NC| 2.4.11 @ 4:14PM
But they don't have to stay.
I was born and raised in NC, and have lived here most of my
life. I even married one of those GD yankees. However, they don't
make many points when constantly telling us "hicks" how they did it
up North and run up property values so they can have all the
amentities they paid dearly in taxes for up North.
MoeBlotz| 2.4.11 @ 9:12PM
In Texas circa 1985,my friends around the Texas metroplex
referred to northerners who visited the area and then left as
yankees. Northerners who visited Dallas,liked the area and chose to
stay were labelled as damn yankees. In my long haul trucking
career,I would deliver a load in Texas and drink cold beer with my
buddies in Dallas. We always had a good time. They told me I was a
G*d d**n yankee Mother F*****r.
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 3:04AM
Oh yeah, I know what you mean. I don't know about you but that
usually gets my back up and I'm likely to tell them if they don't
like the way we do things here they're welcome to go back up
north.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:24PM
Remember the difference between 'Yankees" and "Damned
Yankees"!
Bob Knutson| 2.7.11 @ 4:15AM
As I was raised in rural Tennessee, I would have to put our
brand of BBQ up against that of NC. Not disparaging yours, of
course. Sure it is delicious. Otherwise, fully agree with your
comments.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.4.11 @ 8:02AM
North Carolina my butt....heh.
I'll take Texas Bar-B-Q any old day.
Especially our beef !
What civilized person could even imagine smearing mustard all over
good Bar-B-Q Yuck!
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 8:40AM
You have the wrong Carolina. It's SOUTH Carolina where they
smear mustard on their 'cue. And with all due respect to the Texas
beef industry, until you've had pig, you haven't had barbecue.
Melvin| 2.4.11 @ 8:47AM
No, no, no Ken. No mustard just plain old barbecued porker with
a side of vinager based sauce. I season my pig but not to heavily,
because it covers up the taste and many people can't eat pork
really spicy, so I more or less leave it up to them. People enjoy
more that way.
Granted I'll give Texas the title of barbecued beef. I hope one of
these years I can go through Texas again and partake in some
barbecued brisket.
One of our project superintendents is from Texas and Ken, this guy
makes a brisket that I would kill for. Damn it's good.
Now that you mention it, at least where I live we don't put mustard
on Pork, in fact I never even had it that way. Doing it that way
would be way would overpower the flavor of the oinker.
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 9:04AM
I've always found that when the pig smoked properly, the need
for sauce is minimal.
Dustoff| 2.4.11 @ 9:42AM
HEY YOU TWO.... stop it, your making me dang hungry. (-:
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:07AM
In Davidson County its called "dip", not sauce.
loulou| 2.4.11 @ 11:45AM
AMEN. In fact, sauce is unnecessary.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:27PM
At the end of the day, how many of you can REALLY say you've
EVER had really bad barbecue? That's like bad sex or a boring
Harley. "Ain't never happened".
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:30PM
Dear Mike,
I must respectfully disagree with you. Moonlite BBQ, Owensboro,
KY. Very. Bad. BBQ.
Stephanie| 2.4.11 @ 9:20AM
Ken, nobody here in VA smears mustard on their BBQ! I'v never
heard of that. We have vinegar style and red sweet sauce BBQ with
FF's or hushpuppies. Yummy!!!!!!!!! And again, pass the butter! PS
I love beef BBQ too :-)
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 9:45AM
Ken, it is South Carolina that has mustard based sauce and then
that is primarily around the Columbia area. That mustard based
sauce is sort of sour and sweet and it marries with pig in a
wonderful way. Take that from an old South Carolina boy who has
cooked many a hog and pleased many a friend with his pork BBQ and a
big plate of Carolina Hash and Rice.
I will acknowledge that Texas has the best beef BBQ in the country.
Your tomato based sauces are perfect for the meat. Be glad to have
that there because here in south Louisiana we are in a BBQ waste
land. There is no decent BBQ to be had, only great gumbo.
This article and all the responses has started my mouth watering so
I think this spring, I will go out to my white trash zone, clean my
pit, and cook up a pit of South Carolina Redneck BBQ. Now where did
I set that beer down?
Consertive View| 2.4.11 @ 3:42PM
Old Joe:
Some modest observations having lived in Charleston SC for a great
many years. First, SC BBQ is good. Not great mind you, but
certainly good. BBQ is not the claim to fame for South
Carolina.
Having said this let me say all is not lost. There is nothing in
the world to compare with a South Carolina oyster roast and she
crab soup. South Carolina, and Charleston South Carolina, make the
best she crab soup there ever was, or is likely to be. I have
attended many an oyster roast in Charleston, eaten many a bowl of
she crab soup, and there in lies the food heart of South
Carolina.
So, give North Carolina its' due. If you want a pig pickin head
north a state. If you want oysters and crab done right stay right
there where you is at.
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 5:57PM
CV,
I too lived in Charleston and a times miss it dearly but living
in Chaleston doesn't get you to the heart of SC BBQ.
I have eaten BBQ al over the south including both ends of NC.
Still the best pork BBQ for me is in Lexington, SC and in my
backyard here is Covington, LA. If we all had the same taste, we
would all be eating the same thing.
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:32PM
yes, texas bbq is the best! mesquite!!!
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:28PM
New Braunfels Smokehouse...
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 10:00AM
Do they have good arugula salad in Texas? I hope not, then the
Obamas would know where Texas is and turn your BBQ joints in to
tofu and humus joints. For those of you who don't know Texas is up
there by Canada.......
jd| 2.4.11 @ 8:05AM
Call me petty but I don't know who I hate looking at more --
Odumbo with is his big ears and empty head or his Rupaul lookalike
of a wife.
loulou| 2.4.11 @ 11:44AM
Except that RuPaul is actually good looking. Michelle is a
tranny wannabe, tatoo-ed eyebrows and all.
Martine| 2.4.11 @ 11:57AM
RuPaul dresses better.
WilliamInWien| 2.4.11 @ 8:13AM
Add it to the "expert" testimony of Meryl Streep on the danger
of Alar to Apples. But then again she rooms with the ChiSOX fan who
could not name a single player, past or present.
Louis Jenkins| 2.4.11 @ 8:33AM
Old Texican:
The mustard based bbq comes from South Carolina. Not NC. It
ain't bad. In NC you have three different varieties, all of them
tomato based. Of course there's the chopped and pulled types, but
best of all is the pig picking style. Now I too prefer the Texas
style over the Kansas City or the NC types. Can't get enough of it,
but that's seldom.
Michelle is trying to appear to be wholesome, but that's about
impossible. Obama keeps losing weight because of Michelle's eating
program, and some of us may be happy over that. Heck, if he hangs
around long enough he may have to take sick leave.
PaulD| 2.4.11 @ 8:43AM
"Slice of pie or dollop of banana pudding." What you talkin'
'bout, Willis? In real NC bar-b-q country, it's peach cobbler or
nothing!
Melvin| 2.4.11 @ 8:49AM
Oooooo, especially when peaches are in season, and allowed to
ripen and sweeten on the tree. Dagum Paul makes when want to go out
and fire up the cooker.
Melvin| 2.4.11 @ 8:50AM
Jeez, the fingers and the brain don't seem connected today. I
meant was Dangum makes me want to go out and fire up the
cooker.
loulou| 2.4.11 @ 11:43AM
SC BBQ is better.
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 5:59PM
Amen
cuban pete| 2.4.11 @ 9:44AM
Every time the president, his wife or any other Democrat( most
often the veep) misspeaks or reveals their ignorance of a given
topic I think of Dan Quayle. He advised a youngster to use an
antiquated spelling of potato and was declared a dunce by everyone
in the MSM. The MSM rode that horse forever.
I know that Mr. Obama is a Brobdingnagian intellectual as verified
by his academic record and legal publications so I suppose he and
the First Lady are entitled to the slack afforded them by the
press.
Also, the next time the subject of the president's favorite
team,the Chicago White Sox, comes up he should lobby to get Billy
Pierce into the Hall of Fame. I'm sure he could make a great
argument and Billy's behalf.
Claypoole| 2.4.11 @ 5:16PM
What academic record? What legal publications? If anyone has
seen transcripts or writing, please let me know.
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:42PM
I think Pete forgot the /sarc tag.
Now let's get back to BBQ talk. And please, please, please, no more
about RuPaul.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:32PM
Claypoole,
Remember that the Dean of HLS had fewer than 10 publications
when she made the Supreme Court. Obama is a poseur.
Jeff| 2.4.11 @ 10:05AM
all I know is that her husband seems to be losing weight while
she seems to be gaining weight ...
maybe we should be taking diet advice from him ?
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:08AM
He is smoking more. I just hope they are Camels.
TnT| 2.4.11 @ 10:06AM
For all my friends here allow me to make one point on the
discussion of Q ....
You must remember that barbecue is a NOUN ... not a VERB .... is
is always cooked 'low' and 'slow' and ALWAYS begins with an 'Oink'
....
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 11:30AM
Amen!
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:33PM
nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ned the Red| 2.4.11 @ 10:16AM
To avoid confusion when referring to Mrs. Obama, rather than
call her Obama, she should be called Oba-Ma.
alice moore| 2.4.11 @ 10:41AM
This is just my .02 on Barbecue. I was born in Idaho and
transplanted in Virginia. I have visited other Southern States. ALL
of these states have wonderful types of Barbecue. It is The 100
Flowers in Bloom; literally come to life. I never thought that I
could only love one and eschew the other versions. We can like them
all.
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 2:11PM
Please don't misunderstand me, I do not just love one and eschew
the others. They all have their own special virtues, and as I said
in my earlier post, I have come to appreciate them all.
After all, in the immortal words of Anthonmy Bourdain, "It's
just not a party till someone kills a pig."
Dagny Taggert| 2.4.11 @ 11:02AM
Damn you guys are making me hungry!
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.4.11 @ 11:25AM
All kidding aside,
At my favoritest BBQ joint, ((County Line)) in Texas, I ALWAYS GET
THE SAUCE ON THE SIDE!
When one gets truly well cooked, (slow smoked) Q whether beef,
chicken, or oink, it is pretty wonderful straight up.
I may dip a little sauce on the last bite or two just for
fun....then I take the remainder of the sauce home for left-overs
like roast or something.
yum yum again.
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:44PM
Sauce on the side is always a good idea.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:31PM
Do any of you know about the little cement block joint outside
Oxford Miss. on the way to the interstate? You're bringing up
memories that I can still taste!
loulou| 2.4.11 @ 11:41AM
"Despite the hypocrisy, Michelle Obama means well."
Says who? Thunderthighs loves her ribs, kobe beef, caviar, lobster,
foie gras, ice cream but only for her. Not for the tax paying
little people who are too fat.
Martine| 2.4.11 @ 11:58AM
It's all about controlling the rest of us. Everything they do is
about control. Everything.
Tom in Michigan| 2.4.11 @ 12:44PM
Even I (nobody would ever accuse me of being an Obama supporter)
think this is a bit thin as a criticism of Michelle Obama. There
are so many other things about her and her husband more worthy of
criticism than what appears to me to be a slight exaggeration of
geography. I'm sure she meant the Charlotte "area" has great
barbecue just as there's great barbecue not only in Memphis but in
the surrounding environs.
I strive to eat a healthy diet myself but, whenever my wife
makes ribs-buddy, I'm there but just not over-indulging. Let's
concentrate on the real issues and leave this kind of knit-picking
to the leftists.
Jack Daniels| 2.4.11 @ 2:22PM
No, let's not. This has given us a good outlet for a start to a
great weekend.
The two occupying our White House make me gag and she is a
know-it-all who wants all of us who pay her way everyday, to do as
SHE says, NOT as she does. No, no, no. She knows better and she has
more money. I cringe everytime I see the two of them.
MacDaddy| 2.4.11 @ 1:26PM
Michelle is a fascist oportunist narcissist who is trying to
impose her will and values over the rest of America. And to show
that she has a 'human' side, she condescendingly communicates her
ignorance by trying to descend from her throne occasionally and
show she is a "woman of the people." If Barrack wanted to be a
two-term president, he should have divorced Michelle and married
Oprah. For now, though, we have an Oprah Wannabe in the White
House....
Real American| 2.4.11 @ 3:27PM
what's hilarious is that during the Obamacare/individual mandate
arguments, the left scoffs at the notion that govt wound EVER
require us to eat broccoli or green leafy veggies (or other healthy
govt approved food) under their interpretation of the commerce
clause. That'd be absurd! Of course, then we see Michelle Obama
running around the country telling people what to eat, how much,
when and where (and likewise telling restaurants and stores what
they ought to sell) and laying the groundwork for the govt fulling
mandating our diets to us (infantilizing us even more, in the
process). These leftards have no credibility.
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:35PM
you dork. she's no telling you what to eat - they're suggestions
and healthy ones too.
it's diet leadership b/c odds are, you're a
self-indulger...that's the math, dude!
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 10:03AM
None of there business!
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 10:04AM
oops... Their!
gilbert| 2.6.11 @ 12:59AM
prosperity should be the business of our government: health.
Juju| 2.4.11 @ 3:42PM
Mrs. Obama would better serve the country if she would practice
what she preaches. First off she needs to let kids SEE her
exercising which is a big part of a healthy lifestyle. If she
doesn't do something herself, pretty soon, she and Oprah are going
to have the same size behind.
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:24PM
anyone that is not open to hearing about healthy and
well-balanced diet is probably obese or overweight.
who's lean, healthy and physically fit here for their age? if
you are then you can't be mad at her for trying to make you
healthy. geez, she just cares about your health.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 8:31PM
I'll bet Michelle My Belle could beat [and elbow him into the
bushes] Billy Clinton through the door of any BBQ joint [or at
least a Mc D's] in Carolina... what you bet???????
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:47PM
Tough call! Although I think I'd give Algore the edge over
M'chelle in the same contest.
Oldefarte| 2.5.11 @ 10:23AM
You're probably right, but I'll bet you that she wears the pants
in her household.....and rather large ones at that!!!!!!!!!
Dewey Brockman| 2.4.11 @ 8:59PM
Andrew Cline - You're a fucking moron.
Oliver| 2.4.11 @ 9:05PM
You petie little bastard. Anything to promote your stupid right
wing ideology. I hope your readers are not as stupid as you but
then again I may be not
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:33PM
"Petty," Oliver. Petie is the name of a parakeet.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:52PM
Never knew the Constitution was 'right wing ideology' until
now!!!!!!
candymatthews| 2.4.11 @ 9:08PM
So ... YOU have a really, really strong history of understanding
weight control, do you Mr. Cline. Because from where I sit, it
looks like you are pointing at someone who IS doing something while
you ... do nothing. Personally, I am an expert at weight loss, and
I have not one iota of a problem with Mrs. Obama's statements and
efforts in her attempt to help the youth of America. YOU, on the
other hand, might have a body mass issue. I'd suggest getting your
head checked before you pass judgement on something about which you
clearly have neither understand nor authority.
Rick| 2.5.11 @ 1:00AM
Your a rasist!
David Shanahan| 2.5.11 @ 1:10AM
Andrew,
Have you ever seen the "food pyramid"? Some version of it has been
around for about 100 years now. Ever heard of farm subsidies? Sure
you have. They've been around for a while, too. Government has been
involved in our diet for a long, long time, and they have not done
the best job of it. It's a fact: we are a fat bunch, and our
fatness costs us all in health, wealth, happiness and productivity.
But you already knew all that, didn't you Andy. I suppose you have
to write something to tickle your base, eh?
JiveBomber| 2.5.11 @ 2:03AM
Either Michelle Obama is ignorant, or is just a silly woman. I
lived in the Tarheel State for six years, and during that time, I
never used the words "great", "BBQ", and "Charlotte" in the same
month much less the same sentence.
Here's the words she needed to know: Wilber's, Great Barbeque,
Goldsboro, North Carolina.
DaveS| 2.5.11 @ 10:44AM
Why are we so obsessed with the marginal? So, she eats shoe
leather (excuse me, sneaker sole), now and then. But it's not like
a spoken gaffe: she wrote it. Nobody outside of the residential
quarters of the WH wakes to see if Michelle has said anything.
Don't worry: you didn't miss anything. After the WH garden
photo-op, and this, can we just please leave the poor girl
alone?
DaveS| 2.5.11 @ 10:46AM
Oh yes, Alan Brooks, what sympathy did you have for Quayle when
he spelled exactly what was on the public school teacher-provided
flash card (the famous 'potatoe' debacle)?
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 12:18AM
I liked Quayle. If he had headed the ticket in '92 I would (did
not vote that year; in '96 voted for Gunderson, a 3rd party nut-
didn't know he was a conspiracy-nut at that time) have voted for
him. But this world was not created to make us happy. All the GOP
we have had since '89 is Bushes.
I MIGHT vote Palin as a bone to throw to rightwing feminism. And
she is pretty.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:57PM
What's your BONE with the 'Bushes' [maybe their wealth or their
Yankee Carpetbagism]?????????
Tom| 2.5.11 @ 7:58PM
No surpise, like all Fascists, their motivation is power, their
hearts are but full of EVIL. The Demonrats spawn them, or attract
them like maggots.
WAKE UP| 2.5.11 @ 10:31PM
Some of us have been saying all along that MICHELLE is the
problem.
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 12:11AM
"Oh yes, Alan Brooks, what sympathy did you have for Quayle when
he spelled exactly what was on the public school teacher-provided
flash card (the famous 'potatoe' debacle)?"
DEAD WRONG.
I liked Quayle. If he had headed the ticket in '92 I would have
voted for him; I almost voted for Bush, but on election eve I
decided not to vote. I never voted for Clinton, only Gore and
Kerry-- as a protest against RINO #2.
A vote is second only to God in importance, if She exists..
DaveS| 2.6.11 @ 11:42AM
That a non-starter. The 'She' is a non-starter also.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 1:01PM
Oh, 'She', He or It exists, alright; as you [and everyone] will
discover upon the AND UNTO DUST THY SHALT RETURN moment!!!!
St. Thor| 2.6.11 @ 11:21AM
I'll pay attention to Michelle Obama's advice on food when Carl
Levin drops 200 pounds.
philfl63| 2.6.11 @ 6:18PM
Yes, we live in a free country and she can tout what she wishes.
However, I am free to tell that disgusting she-rilla to shut her
pie-hole and mind her own business.
zinka milanov| 2.7.11 @ 1:53AM
Let us hope that the Ist Lady never goes to Utube and finds that
great documentary Werner Herzog Eats his Shoe. (He boils the shoe
with some garlic and onions and does eat it.). And maybe Michelle's
campaign will bring back an interest in Mrs. Nesbitt, the FDR
family cook, who served food to the potus from the NY State
extension service cookbook, on Eleanor's orders. (
sweetbreads and scrambled eggs for weeks at a time).
NickP| 2.7.11 @ 9:40AM
And you get bet all the crap for the White House Super Bowl
party was not bought at her favorite walmart.
tag| 2.7.11 @ 10:04AM
I'll always judge the Silverback by what I saw when they were
campaigning! Her, giving HIM a thumbsup, and hand clasp after he
made this acceptance speech with her face CLEARLY showing "you did
it, you fooled them all, they all fell for it"! That will stay with
me for a very long time. This whole thing, prez, is a joke for
them. It's a trial run because this jerk doesn't have a clue about
what he is doing just like he knew nothing in the senate without
Ted Kennedy who held his hand the entire time! He was worthless
there, and he isn't doing any better now. That whole family is a
blight on American history - he has no right to that office and he
knows it. He pulled off one of the greatest hoax's ever perpetrated
on the American people! Blacks came out of the woodwork, registered
and voted for the first time in their entire life ONLY BECAUSE THIS
GUY IS BLACK! No other reason, and this what we got! They need to
go BACK into the woodwork and stay there!
wbheff| 2.7.11 @ 10:35AM
I have read through the U. S. Constitution many times, and
cannot find a single reference to the "First Lady." There is no
authority whatsoever for spending one penny of money confiscated
from the taxpayers to fund any activities by the President's wife.
She is a private citizen, who happens to be married to the
President. She has no authority, nor responsibilities under the
Constitution, and spending money on her whims constitutes Fraud,
Waste and Abuse (which sounds like the name of a "liberal" law
firm), and should be ended forthwith.
Gerald Treffinger| 2.7.11 @ 10:56AM
Did anyone notice the menu at the White House Super Bowl Party ?
GHT
GotFreedom| 2.7.11 @ 11:15AM
This woman lives in a "do as I say, not as I do" world! Who died
and made her "queen"; giving her the right to tell us what to eat
when she herself does not live by her own "rules"? Just look at
what was served at the WH for Superbowl Sunday--bratwurst,
kielbasa, cheeseburgers, deep-dish pizza and Buffalo wings with
sides of German potato salad, twice-baked potatoes and assorted
chips and dips. Stop dictating what we should/should not eat--lead
by example and then maybe we'll consider what you have to say Mrs.
Obama!
Vicki| 2.7.11 @ 5:13PM
You said it! The pathetic thing about it is, they say these
things, but we all see what they do as far as eating at McDonalds,
having ice cream, etc... everything these people do is
hypocracy.
Larry| 2.7.11 @ 12:08PM
I disagree that she has anyone's good intentions at heart. Do
you really think that she gives a rat's ass about the "little"
people?
It's about control. Witness the food at the White House Super
Bowl party.
Vicki| 2.7.11 @ 5:15PM
I agree. They don't care about anyone except their own little
circle, and who pull their strings - all without the USA health in
mind.
She should start with Monsato, GMOing and ring the FDA
Evie| 2.7.11 @ 12:33PM
I don't care for Obama & his wife, but I believe articles
like this is petty, and more like a gossip column--not worthy of a
serious organization. I want to be kept informed of issues of
importance, not those that just tear down.
Oh, I'm surprised Madame Michelle "Antoinette" Obama doesn't
want us "little people" to just eat cake.
Kai| 2.7.11 @ 1:42PM
You want to eat all the barbecue and drink all the sugar-laced
sweet tea you want? ok then, go ahead. but when your health
insurance premiums go up because you take a bigger piece of the
healthcare pie, don't complain and expect healthier individuals
like myself to pay your costs. Yes, the government should NOT be
mandating dietary guidelines to people. That is not their business.
However, if Americans cannot show the responsibility necessary when
it comes to things like health and finances, then I and other
people who HAVE been responsible and made sacrifices should not be
expected to cover your gluttony by paying higher insurance premiums
or pay for Socialist programs to support your poor choices through
higher taxes. Go ahead....eat what you want and how much of it you
want. Just be prepared to pay out of pocket for your diabetes
medications, Bariatric surgery, Cholesterol meds, or health bypass
surgery and don't expect the government to send you a check each
month when you get to fat and sick to work. Obesity and diabetes
are NOT diseases; they are lifestyle choices. You eat a bigger
piece of the pie (healthcare), you should pay a bigger chunk.
mp| 2.7.11 @ 1:44PM
this might be the dumbest thing I've ever read. will the next
one call out rock bands for saying "*insert your city* has the best
fans!"?
Seriously. Grow up.
T| 2.7.11 @ 2:25PM
Michelle Obama has done nothing to ban your Twinkie and corn
syrup supply, you stupid rednecks. She's trying to put salad bars
in schools so that your kids have the option to walk to class
instead of roll.
Pettiness is the refuge of the weak, Andy.
Vicki| 2.7.11 @ 5:17PM
Give me a break. What these kids eat in school is one small
meal, 5x a week. That will not do anything about their weight or
health. ITS THE PARENTS who are to put healthy food on the table
and bring their children up where they know the healthy choices.
NOT THE GOVERNMENT!
Jim in Virginia| 2.7.11 @ 2:58PM
Mr. Cline: it must have been a VERY slow news day when you came
up with the idea for this article. Your fear of government
eventually dictating your food choices reminds some of William F.
Buckley's resistance to laws requiring motorcyclists to wear
helmets. Yes, those clamoring to ride helmet-less often claimed
helmet laws infringed on their liberties and rights. Fortunately,
the cost to society of head injuries to helmetless motorcyclists
convinced the majority of citizens and their legislators that it
was in society's overall best interest to force riders to wear
helmets (or, for that matter, seat belts in their cars). If one
wants to be a member of a society, one should strive to do what is
acceptable to or best for society and not go off in 308 million
directions doing what his or her mind has concluded is best for him
or her as an individual. By that I do not suggest no place exists
for individual rights. It is just that individual rights have a
limit (try yelling “fire” in a crowded cinema when no fire
exists!).
Layne in Virginia| 4.28.11 @ 9:11PM
You Sir,are a plain and simple IDIOT.The reason seat belt and
helmet laws were enacted was INSURANCE companys wanted them
enacted.The same people that had the national speed limit dropped
in the 70s.Was proven it didnt stop highway deaths.Cops used to say
I have never unstrapped a dead man,nother lie.Only a hardcore
liberal that wouldnt know how to find his own food would try to
tell others how to live.
L. Bakon| 2.7.11 @ 3:17PM
There isn't one thing the Obama family could do to my
satisfaction either Mr. Cline. Ever.
Some would say that you and your fellow journalists are souless
partisan twits who walk down the boulevard trying to determine the
political affiliation of everything in view.
Is that fire hydrant a Republican or Democrat. probably a
socialist it was provided by the government. Is the sun a
Republican? How about the clouds.
Never stray from your team.
Excellent journalism. Well played sir.
David| 2.7.11 @ 5:24PM
Occam's Tool, you hit it on the head with the reminder that when
Michelle had that cush $300,000 per year job, only getting it after
Bam Bam became a U. S Senator, that she sent poor people to other
facilities.
If that were a repub who did that, the media would never let us
forget it. Where is conservative media to remind us when the dems
really, really do something outrageous???
FedUp| 2.8.11 @ 1:52AM
I was in a McDonalds a while ago, sitting in front of the play
area watching the kids play...... yes playing at a McDonalds!!!....
after eating their lunch. There were about 12 kids there and none
of them seemed to have a problem with their weight!
The classic example: In 2004, Sen. John Kerry, trying to bolster
his regular guy image, spoke of Green Bay's hallowed ";Lambert
Field." It's Lambeau Field. Ten dork points for Kerry.
I was in a McDonalds a while ago, sitting in front of the play
area watching the kids play...... yes playing at a McDonalds!!!....
after eating their lunch. There were about 12 kids there and none
of them seemed to have a problem with their weight!
I have eaten BBQ al over the south including both ends of NC.
Still the best pork BBQ for me is in Lexington, SC and in my
backyard here is Covington, LA. If we all had the same taste, we
would all be eating the same thing.
Robbins Mitchell| 2.4.11 @ 6:20AM
Serving hush puppies with BBQ?...culinary heresy....they should only be served with fried catfish
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 8:25AM
Youse guys really hate the Obamas, don't you? In the '90s you didn't even hate Hillary this much.
Jack Daniels| 2.4.11 @ 9:08AM
That's about right Alan. I'd take Hill over these two sanctamonious hypocritical grifters any day.
But when you get down to it, there ain't much difference in the two.
USSAlabama| 2.4.11 @ 1:35PM
Michelle Obama is fat and she knows it. Half of the Congress is FAT and I see those fat ones walking through the halls with diet cokes in hand. I'm going to stop being PC about FAT and come right out and tell 'em.
Paul| 2.4.11 @ 2:49PM
While not particularly interested in Mrs. Obama, and certainly not her fan or supporter, I have to ask: fat? really? Not even chunky, or chubby, or plump, etc., but fat? I have to ask about the semantic and aesthetic standards being used in this case. Or are we just being mean?
beebop| 2.4.11 @ 6:45PM
I think the bigger issue is this: hubby was a fat, miserable kid who was probably a fish out of water while living with mommy and step pop and so was packed up and summarily sent to the bigoted g'ma in Hawaii. He is painfully thin now and I believe it is over compensation. Why don't they just work this out with their spiritual advisor in Chicago?
USSAlabama| 2.5.11 @ 4:06PM
Hmmm. People who drink a lot of alchie are usually very thin.
Paul, wish I could get you into a spot to see her in person. Legs are logs. Huge.
Banana Puddin Head Wilson | 2.4.11 @ 9:37AM
You really hate George W. Bush, don't you? In the 80's you didn't even hate Reagan this much.
Dustoff| 2.4.11 @ 9:37AM
No Alen...
Just proving how out of touch these two really are.
Sorry if the truth bothers you that much.
Remember what we heard from you jerks for 8 long years. Bush is stupid.
Welcome to the party.
Finbarr Moran| 2.4.11 @ 11:16AM
Yeah, Alan, we all remember how Laura was always telling Americans how to live.
She was always closing down DC streets to go to the grocery store.
Rumor had it she was never proud of her country until George became President.
She was nothing like the soft-spoken, unassuming Michelle.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 2:56PM
It's not that we hate the obamas, it's that we hate anybody presuming they know what's best for us...and then trying to make it into LAW! Look at the butt on michelle obama. If she's concerned about obesity, she can start by looking right 'behind' her!
Libs are always trying to ban things they don't approve of instead of just letting people alone. But, that's the 'lib' way. If they don't like guns, they won't be content with not owning one, they want to stop ANYBODY from owning one. It's the same way on almost everything they get into their little pin heads. It's not enough that they approve of homosexual's life choices; they have to label us with nasty names and force us to accept them.
It's bad enough that they have this superiority complex; but they must think they are wrong deep down because they scream and cry and yell at anybody who disagrees with them.
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:22PM
garbage.
she just wants people to be healthy and live longer. unlike the republican healthcare strategy: don't get sick but if you do, die quickly. why? b/c that helps the bottom line of the insurance companies.
aren't you glad that you now have a better shot at knowing how many calories you are taking in when you go to a franchise restaurant? you probably are so annoyed with that...
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:08PM
Try to remember one of my posts. I do not eat at fast food joints. I have enough trouble eating anything at all. Try living on a diet that mostly enters your body via tubes. I miss taste the most. IVs and 'J' Tubes don't pass food near taste buds.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:18PM
Yes, Mike, but your posts are still Red Meat. Delicious and Nutritious.
Actually, Gilbert, it is the Obamacare guys that want you to die quickly. One of us was a senior consultant in an NHS in New Zealand, and one of us wasn't. NHS sucks.
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 9:34AM
HEY EVERYONE!!! Alan Grayson stopped by to say 'hello.' How cool is that.
I would like to know who the republican is that said "if you get sick, die quickly" so I can send them a campaign contribution. Obama said "just take the pill" but I don't think he's a republican.
della street| 2.5.11 @ 1:31PM
Mrs. O's food initiative is a glaring payback to the SEIU. In the first group of schools to recieve benefits, the plan is to serve breakfast, lunch AND dinner. There will also be a summer feeding program. This will require a full additional shift of food service workers in each of the schools. To fund this program, millions were 'taken' from the Food Stamp program.
I fail to see any actual goodwill in this, just politics as usual, cloaked in 'it's for the children,' which is supposed to shut up all disagreement.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:19PM
Mrs. O's major contribution to Healthcare in the city of Chicago was depriving poor people of access to the University of Chicago's clinics.
Kathy| 2.7.11 @ 4:27PM
Doesn't being obese have more to do with lack of activity -- as well as life style -- families who've stopped preparing home cooked meals and monitoring good nutrition in the home? This is not a "political" problem, but more likely one that reflects a lack of self-control and personal responsibility. When did the "government" take the place of parents? Eating out occasionally doesn't create obesity. Fast food restaurants or high fat/high calorie foods can only affect you if you make the choice to use them a regular basis. You really can't be serious to think that Michelle cares about any of us living longer and healthier. What her message should be is "everything in moderation"! Seems like she could be exercising some self control of her own. Enough with the comments about "the republican strategy" ... all corporations are in the business to make money -- just ask Al Gore.
Jaded| 2.10.11 @ 6:35PM
Call me the ever pessimist but I'm more likely to believe that they want us to live longer so we'll be around longer to pay taxes!
Yosemeti Sam| 2.5.11 @ 12:14AM
" ... butt on michelle ...."
Could it be she is vying for title of Hottentot Venus West?
What kind of slim-fast chef they's got at the Peoples' White House preparing food anyway?
LOL.
Nancy in NC| 2.4.11 @ 3:51PM
Not them specifically...just anyone that think they are qualified to tell the rest of how to live. If I want to have barbeque pork every night, I should have the freedom to do just that. If it kills me, it's called thinning the herd.
True freedom means the liberty to make MY choices about MY life. It also means buying MY insurance and paying bigger premiums if I'm a big fat hog with high blood pressure. That's allowing me the freedom to suffer the consequences of MY choices.
And after all, no matter what, all of us are going to die...regardless. If some choose sooner than later, that's their choice as well.
But I don't expect too many liberals will be able to get their small minds around the concept of true freedom. They just love to tell everyone else what to do too much.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:13PM
Real libs are TERRIFIED to die. They have convinced themselves that this is all there is. That's why they don't want anybody telling them that what they do might be bad or sinful or anything with a negative connotation. Because, if there is no afterlife, then we'd better do everything here, no matter what the Bible, or the Koran, or the Torah, or mom and dad, or teachers (back when teachers made sense and actually taught right from wrong) or anybody else told us.
Since this life is all there is, nobody had better tell us we can't do ANYTHING we want to. Well, I am not the least bit afraid of dying, we're all going to do it at some time. There's an old folk song with a line in it that goes like this: "I can swear there ain't no Heaven, but I'll pray there ain't no hell." 'Nuff said.
DaveS| 2.5.11 @ 10:47AM
It's deserved, Alan. But, I agree with you on the relative merits: for being the smartest woman in the world, she did not defeat the Kenyan - thanks in part to Operation Chaos!
Cincinnatius| 2.6.11 @ 1:06PM
I never miss a chance to opine on a poll on the Obamas as stated by Alan: I don't hate the Obamas, I DESPISE them and everything they stand for! Hope I wasn't too late with my response. The poll is still open....right?
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 6:36PM
I'm Allan Brooks and I demand you pay attention to me and validate my relevance. My mom says I'm the smartest most important person in the world.
I bet your mom didn't knit you pajamas with feet in them or let you stay in her basement rent free.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:39PM
'Hate', as in RACISM, DISENFRANCHISEMENT, GENTRIFICATION, DISCRIMINATION, etc??????
vladdy| 3.12.11 @ 10:26PM
Your immaturity is showing. This is politics, not a scout meeting where we all sing "Kumbayah." And it's not the person, although he does come off as a jerk, it's the policies we're fighting.
In other words, BO has every right to be a pompous, arrogant jerk but we'r rather he not do it in the White House while he's in the process of destroying the country piece-by-piece and handing it out to the unions, his cronies on Wall St., and various third world leaders.
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 9:01AM
While hush puppies and catfish do make a fine combination, I assure you they are equally comfortable on a plate beside a heaping helping of NC's finest porcine delicacy.
Stephanie| 2.4.11 @ 9:09AM
How right you are Big E, how right you are.
Pass the butter please?
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 9:15AM
Perhaps there is one thing we have in common, Big E:
N. Carolina is the one state in the South I like 100 percent. The Outer Banks, Asheville, Junaluska (a Methodist retreat), Charlotte, Chapel Hill, Wilmington.
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:00AM
You forgot Cary (containment area for relocated yankees). Please stop visiting.
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 12:04PM
You forgot Cary (containment area for relocated yankees). Please stop visiting."
Well... if you say so, ncatty, okay. Not even to Junaluska for a Methodist retreat;
Methodists are too lib'ral for you, right?
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 12:23PM
It has nothing do with liberals. Just you.
Claypoole| 2.4.11 @ 5:00PM
Mr. Brooks: Next time you are in the Banks, try to get down to Wanchese, a commercial fishing town, to Fisherman's Wharf restaurant. It is owned and operated by a fishing family and located just above the family's fish prep and packing facility. All fresh fish, cooked to perfection, and the best hush puppies you will ever eat. And, best of all, they are happy to serve liberals.
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 6:37PM
My mom cooks for me and beside I has to stay in the basement till she gets home so I don't hurt myself.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:41PM
Naturally, since N.C. [along with Va.] are the MOST LIBERAL/PPRGRESSIVE of the southern states!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 2:57PM
I love Carolina Barbeque but I can't figure out where the cole slaw came from.
Nancy in NC| 2.4.11 @ 3:53PM
The cole slaw is to cut the grease. Tastes good too.
Consertive View| 2.4.11 @ 10:08AM
Once while in the Navy I sailed my craft down the ICW in NC. The cook was sick, so I pulled the Swamp Fox, (the name of my vessel) against the most run down, ratty, wooden pier I ever did see. Accross from the pier a run down shack of a resturant. I went to have a look. Every face in the place was black, and a woman who if three inches taller you would call round stood behind the counter.
"You'all Navy boys come in and have some dinner, you hear darlin?"
I went back aboard and told my crew, dinner ashore, uniform tropical white long. They objected but changed anyway. Then the whole crew went ashore.
Now what does this have to do with BBQ? Everything in the world. I don't care about arguments over West and East, or Willimgton or Charlotte or outerbanks. The best BBQ in the whole wide world was in that run down shack of a resturant on the ICW. To say my crew "pigged out" is an understatement.
As for Southern hospitality, why it wasn't long before the local population heard "Navy Boys" were there, and the young ladies came, and a scratch Black Blues Band, and my crew danced all night. I didn't get back underway until the next morning at ten.
I can't tell you where that place is. I have tried finding it now that I am retired. No such luck. But I can tell you, local BBQ in the back waters of NC is the best BBQ you will ever find anywheres.
Texas beef is good, I love a good steak. Chicken has its' place. But the good Lord done smiled on North Carolinia and I know, deep in my heart, that on ocasion he done come down and has himself a heapin' of Southern BBQ in little back water resturants.
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:13AM
Was your craft a carrier? Just kidding. The ICW is pretty shallow these days.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 2:58PM
Are you telling me you made your men eat BARBECUE in WHITES??? They must be lots neater "Q" eaters than I was back then!
Consertive View| 2.4.11 @ 3:26PM
Had I known dinner was BBQ I wouldn't have done it, but once I found out it was too late to change the order. It did turn out for the best in the end. The young ladies who came to dance all had ways of getting the stains out of the jumpers, and were more than happy to remove same to show us sailor boys how. But then, that's a story a little off topic. LOL
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:15PM
I can only imagine...and smile. great story. Makes me feel human again!
porko| 2.4.11 @ 1:17PM
Right you are about the hush puppies. If you go to Heavy's Barbeque near Crawfordville, Georgia, they put loaves of white bread on the table. Shreaded pork, Brunswick stew and white bread is the Heavy way!
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 2.4.11 @ 6:25AM
You claim Michelle Obama means well. Does she?
Your article does a semi-good job of making her out to be a food dictator which is what she is attempting, so in fact Michelle Obama does not mean well.
Take it one step further. What are her credentials? Like Al Gore, she has none. Al Gore is no scientist. If it weren't for gullible idiots who believe in climate change Al Gore would probably be making moonshine back in Tennessee.
It's the same with Michelle Obama. She comes out of nowhere, hating her country, and suddenly she's an expert nutritionist without credentials.
In that sense she's not even an elitist because an elitist usually has some manufactured degree.
Michelle is probably setting herself up for the afterlife of politics. Making herself look like an expert at something she has no training for and no expertise. In Michelle's case it's about slogans and syllogisms, i.e., if you ingest this that will happen.
It's questionable to state that she isn't saying the government should force us to eat something. Her husband is the government, and if it weren't for that, she would be considered a meddlesome busybody, as opposed to the voice of authority.
ENOUGH ROPE| 2.4.11 @ 8:33AM
The Dragon Lady could have claimed that Charlotte had the best barbecued mastodon, and her arrogance would preclude any embarrassment.
Mr. & Mrs. Smiling Cobra can say anything they want, because Mr. Smiling Cobra believes that he can smile at us without our noticing his sinking his lethal fangs into our rule of law, consent of the governed, Judeo-Christian values, free market economy, middle class, private property, national security, and our traditional allies.
But gee by golly, he has such a flashy smile! He must be a good guy!
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 9:21AM
"best barbecued mastodon,"
Which one? Bob Dole or John McCain?
W| 2.4.11 @ 9:33AM
Again, trying to deflect criticism of your favorite politicians by making stupid, inane remarks about Dole and McCain, two men who served our country in war, and are war heroes. Doesnt mean much to a lefty like you. Ignore Brooks.
Finbarr Moran| 2.4.11 @ 11:20AM
Is this your assigned day to throw barbs, Alan.
Go back under your bridge, troll.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 3:00PM
Neither; grilled algore with a side of kerrypoo. Then covered with a light coat of carter grease sauce over a bed of bubba ooze.
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:29PM
Sounds like a bad, really bad case of heartburn waiting to happen.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:17PM
Look at the case of heartburn it gave our country...and still is! And we can't even barf it out! Maybe the analogy of waiting till tomorrow and helping it come out the other end is oh so appropriate!
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:44PM
What, no BBQ'd JACKASSES??????????
tag| 2.7.11 @ 9:48AM
Remember: ALL 'first' ladies MUST be involved in something - food was the only thing michelle could think of so, even without any qualifications an doing a little bit of fact gathering she became an advocate for chillin' and their eating habits! Ridiculous! Think about it - all presidents wives have to have a hobby - this was hers! I had to laugh when I read that obama 'doesn't take it personally when people hate him - it's only because they don't "know" him. Hey, prez, we hate you because we DO know who and what you are - incompetent! Michell's rear end looks like the broad side of a barn!
margie cutaia| 2.7.11 @ 11:08AM
you are correct except that michelle is the presidents wife she hasn't any credentials to know
what she's talking about and by what authority
should she be giving advice - look at her butt?
Appleby| 2.4.11 @ 6:36AM
Poor Michelle is trying to find some way to elbow herself into the midst of a culture she neither likes nor understands -- lurching from manhandling Royalty to slapping Goodies out of the hands of babies, in an untutored and embarrassing attempt to pretend not only that she is like us, but that she likes us.
I have no doubt we will see King Zero wearing a NA$CAR jacket at some point, and that he will have picked a driver to photo-op with that will make NA$CAR people say *Do WHUUUUT Now?* and snicker behind their hands. (Somebody tell him that not only is Danicant NOT a legitimate race car driver, having *won* only one race) but her main sponsor, GoDaddy.com, is a well known host for pornographers).
There is nothing sadder than watching ignoranti slumming.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 3:01PM
Howzabout a picture of mike dukakis in a tank?
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:29PM
garbage. nascar rocks though! dont pick on the only woman in nascar!
i'm a kyle busch fan #18!!!
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:18PM
Finally something to agree on. See, there's hope!
gilbert| 2.6.11 @ 12:57AM
this does make me happy mike d. i love that the off season is only a couple of months. feburary and we are back in business!
Frisbee| 2.4.11 @ 9:42PM
"slapping Goodies out of the hands of babies"
LOL Appleby!
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 2:50AM
He'll probably come to Lowe's country in a home depot jacket. And just so you know, we don't snicker behind our hands. That's rude. We laugh out loud, sometimes pointing.
FREE bee| 2.4.11 @ 6:39AM
----PLEASE, enough with the non-relevance
blizzards.
------------REALLY, PLEASE.
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 6:58AM
I despise Michelle Obama, but the premise of this article is pretty dumb.
When most people say "Charlotte", they probably don't mean the geographical and political entity known as "the City of Charlotte". More likely, they mean that AND the surrounding areas to the north, west, east, and south.
In fact, many people who don't technically live in the city boundaries will still reply, when asked where they live: "Charlotte".
In addition, there is a well-known style of barbecue known as "Carolina-style". Are you actually implying that it's real hard to find that somewhere in Charlotte?
There are MANY reasons to criticize the Obamas, but frankly, this is weak.
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 8:34AM
As a lifelong, 325 pound resident of The Old North State, I feel eminently qualified to "weigh in" here.
First of all, outside of the city of Charlotte, many of us here refer to the Charlotte/Mecklenburg County area as the "Great State of Mecklenburg," for reasons that are less than complimentary to the general attitude of the City's leaders and leading citizens.
Secondly, Doctor Right, while I generally admire your posts, I feel you may have fallen into the same "pit" as the first lady, for you see, there is not, "a well-known style of barbecue known as 'Carolina-style.'" There are TWO very distinct styles of barbecue in North Carolina, eastern style - which is whole hog with a vinegar based sauce, and western, or Lexington style, which is shoulder only with a sauce that is sweeter and more tomato-y. And I assure you, the difference DOES matter.
Personally, I grew up with - and still prefer - the Lexington style, but over my many years of indulgence in all things pig, I have developed a keen appreciation for both. In pursuit of that appreciation, I have consumed the hallowed swine in all parts of the state, and have found that wherever I go, I can always find a good place to eat 'cue.
Except for one.
In all my years of gastronomic overindulgence, I have never had a good plate of barbecue in Charlotte. Not once. At every so called barbecue joint I've eaten in Charlotte, it was like I was eating something designed primarily to not offend the palates of out-of-state businessmen. Charlotte is, as far as I'm concerned, a porcine wasteland, and its lack of good 'cue is probably the single factor which, more than any other, shows how unlike the rest of the state it is.
So, if you're down this way, and want the real McCoy, you've got to get well outside of Charlotte - Shelby, Hickory, Lenoir, even Winston-Salem. And of course (at this point everyone should remove their hats and bow their heads in homage) - Lexington. Until you have experienced what Lexington has to offer, you haven't fully experienced the true splendor of God's creation.
I say this to you, not as a criticism of the First Lady (though, I must ask, why in the world would anyone think a girl from Chicago would know anything about where to find barbecue in North Carolina?), but for the purposes of edifying your spirit, and hopefully, expanding your horizons, and your waistline. Indeed, this is not a political issue at all. I can honestly say that I have never asked the pig its stance on healthcare, or the pitmaster his feelings on the budget. Many a fight has begun and many a family split over the issue of barbecue in North Carolina. But I seriously doubt if either has occurred as a result of anyone taking offense to comments made about their favorite barbecue joint Charlotte, because frankly, from my experience, there is no barbecue in Charlotte worth fighting for.
So you see, it's not a political issue at all. Really. It's far more serious than that.
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:03AM
As a resident of Davidson County, of which Lexington is the county seat, I heartily endorse your comments.
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 10:24AM
Well, it's kind of how I feel when I see "Maryland Crab Soup" on a menu in Illinois...
...Regardless, for those of us who live in the 49 states that AREN'T North Carolina, when someone says "Carolina Barbecue", it's generally known to mean the "eastern" style you describe in your post.
And it's still a weak issue to criticize Moo-chelle with, when there's so many other more noteworthy issues out there...
Stoddard| 2.4.11 @ 1:32PM
Lexington barbecue rules. Especially the "red slaw."
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:33PM
I trust that wasn't a knock on BBQ from the Windy City and its environs.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:22PM
I, myself, can't stand the vinegar based BBQ. We didn't have that in 'Bama, but it was all we had in Kentucky. I appreciate the fact that there are different tastes, but I have a soft spot for 'Bama BBQ. (and 'Bama.)
da monk| 2.4.11 @ 9:41AM
Dr Right (aka Dr No) You say, "I despise Michelle Obama". Why? Do you know her personally? Did she do something to you personally to give you reason to "despise" her. If not, maybe it be better you say "I despise Michelle Obama food suggestions
because..." Keep the personal afronts out of the conversation and be a legitimate Dr. Right and a gentleman.
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 9:51AM
Sorta like you Democrats never said anything personal about the Bushs???
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 10:20AM
"da monk":
I'm sure you were no fan of GW Bush; why? Did he do something personal to you??
I despise her because she is a sanctimonious poseur and a hypocrite who has grown fat off of a country she hates, and who criticizes the very people who have bent over backwards to help her solely because her skin is brown. She proudly admitted that she'd NEVER been proud of her country until her Party was dumb enough to nominate her husband (an equally vapid and empty suit) to lead them.
She's a foolish, spiteful, chip-on-the-shoulder leftist. In short, she's an idiot.
Don't like my opinion, "monk"? Too bad. Deal with it.
Jack Daniels| 2.4.11 @ 2:14PM
Now Dr. Right, tell us how you really feel!
Damn, that was good and you echo my sentiments spot on.
Frisbee| 2.4.11 @ 9:45PM
Thanks for saying what we are feeling Dr R.
da monk| 2.5.11 @ 8:42AM
No, I am not a GW Bush fan, but I DO NOT DESPISE HIM! In fact if I met him personally I bet you I would enjoy his company. He seems to be a a very personable man. I just don't agree with his personal political philosophy. I have no complaint that he's a Born Again Christian. Even though I disagree with his religious philosophy. Why should you have complaint about her skin color? What does that have to do with her opinions? From your comments I can only surmise you're a White Supremist and a chip the shoulder Rightest
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:24PM
I hate her because of her rank hypocrisy and evil. Making $300,00 plus yearly to deny medical care to poor people and then boasting about your concern for the poor is despicable. And perfectly defines Michelle the scumbag. As a native of Chi-town, yeah, I do take that personally.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:25PM
$300,000. Sorry. And, to answer the "Gilbert" below, I hate Hitler, Goering, and Arafat, too---and have never met them. Sometimes one can tell about someone from the STENCHHHHH!
vladdy| 3.12.11 @ 10:37PM
Do some research. From her paranoid Princeton paper (alliteration intended) to her "proud of America" comment to grabbing the Queen to her frequent jaunts with 30 or so friends, there's a lot more to despise about Michelle than just her food policies.
Why? Are you her official caretaker? This is politics; it's okay to get personal. Remember the Bush days? Or if not, how 'bout Palin?
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:30PM
how can you despise someone you don't know? you probably love god too but have never met him.
weirdo.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:21PM
God never lied his way through an election. and, we ALL know exactly where he was born. We're still not sure about barry. I'm very confident that God loves me and is waiting for me. Barry and his death panels want the authority to kill me and hurry me along to my final reward. Who gave them that kind of power? Not us..
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 9:51AM
By that logic one can't despise Hitler or Pol Pot because we don't know them. Can we admire people we haven't met? MOs actions have defined what kind of person she is and to many she is worthy of contempt by her actions, statements, and lack of class.
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 2:55AM
Bubba's Barbeque right off 77 on 21. Awesome food.
Ret. Marine| 2.4.11 @ 6:59AM
If she were not the impostors wife, I'd bet she would only raise the hairs of a nobody with a penchant for being somebody. If only horseshit was horsehairs. And lets not forget this little sweet talk to the idiots out there a couple of years back, "barack is not going to let you". you know the rest.
I can't make up my mind on of the two obamas Bin Lyn I despise the most, the won who is constantly wrong every time he opens his pie hole, or the one trying to convince me I should listen to the lies he tries to sell to intelligent people, some thing they just don't have a clue as to who they are. Anyway I'm with you on this one, leave me the hell alone, I neither want or desire to hear from a couple of nobody's who say nothing every time they think they say something intelligent. In this life I'd rather talk to a story teller, at least they have a line that can be followed and keep my interest.
alice moore| 2.4.11 @ 9:36AM
Your quote of "Barack is not going to let you...." probably was uttered by Pol Pot's wife; substituting Pol Pot for Barack, of course.
Let's hope and pray that the American people do not suffer a version of the Khmer Rouge. To paraphrase Edmund Burke, this is how evil flourishes when good people do nothing.
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:35PM
Alice, 'fraid not. The First Klingon actually did utter those words during the campaign.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:22PM
Didn't I tell you about that "Retired" stuff? All Marines are ready and willing to serve, regardless of age or anything else.
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 2:57AM
Thank you
Chalkdust| 2.4.11 @ 7:11AM
So Mr. Cline, a slow news day is it? I mean a whole article on ....whats-her-name obama and BBQ? Golly, she's so far down on my my list of ignorant/mean people that need a good hickory switchin', I can't even get past those tacky garmets she wears to be bothered to look for one.
vladdy| 3.12.11 @ 10:40PM
Yes, but it's March and she's hired a stylist now. (Why do I get the feeling I'm paying for it? And what does that make...her 26th or 27th personal staff member? She must be having a competition with Obama and his czars.
Purple Lips| 2.4.11 @ 7:12AM
The First Lady only commented on a subject dear to her heart: Chow. She loves food, and it tells.
"I like Big Butts...."
MoeBlotz| 2.4.11 @ 7:31AM
Perhaps Michelle My Butt should have added "..and great corn likker".
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 2:58AM
She couldn't handle good moonshine.
Brian Mc| 2.4.11 @ 7:34AM
This incrementalism reminds me of the game we played as children, "Red Light, Green Light". They attempt small steps while we aren't looking but unfortunately for us, they don't go back to the start when caught.
clark| 2.4.11 @ 7:53AM
I am guessing that in Charlotte and its surrounding area that one can indeed obtain "great barbecue." I recommend Ro's in Gastonia.
This is rightwing cultural politics at its most asinine. and that's saying alot.
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 9:26AM
Clark,
Sorry you aren't bright enough to appreciate satire. You must be a Democrat. I suggest you take a pill and go back to sucking your thumb.
Melvin| 2.4.11 @ 7:57AM
Many Black Americans are remigrating back to the South. Many of these Americans are as nice as can be, because they despise the Northern States. But Southern society can't have everything, there are those few mostly from the urban environs of Detroit, Columbus and the like that want to set up their thug shops and continue like de was back in da hood.
We just had two idiots from Detroit get into a shootout and guess what they are headed back to Detroit in Pine Boxes.
But this is just a side note, what Lady Michelle is doing is trying to relive or re-inject herself and her husband as being with the Civil Rights cause of the Martin Luther King days.
She wants to come down here in North Carolina and get all share cropper on us, so she and her husband can give the illusion to the Black Americans down here in North Carolina (The South) that they stand in solidarity with them just like it was still 1960.
But there is one small problem with that premise. I live in NC and it is a great place to live in-spite of the Democrats taxing us to oblivion.
For the most part Blacks and Whites get along working, raising families, having the same issues with teenagers ect.
We're starting to have allot of that single mother crap, but I guess society really never gets away from that.
Personally I think that if the Barrack and Michelle show are trying to fire up the Civil Rights struggle, it may fall upon deaf ears for the most part.
Beside the fact that real honest to goodness NC barbecue is fattening as hell, but I wouldn't trade it for all the rabbit food in Michelle's garden.
When I came to the South, to make it my home, I quickly realized that attending a Pig Pickin is the glue that draws North Carolinians together. It is at social functions, family gatherings, or just friends getting together to sit a spell and gossip.
North Carolinians are the salt of the earth in my book, not that I'm partial mind you, but we're friendly, hospitable, and just plain enjoy the simple things in life without all the hubbub of technology, cell phones and IPads.
I have extreme reserverations of how much the DNC is going to stick North Carolinians with the bill for their convention. The DNC has a terrible track record of paying it's bills to the cities that host it's conventions.
North Carolina is not Chicago, nor do we strive to be Yankees. I hope that Michelle and Barrack come down here and embrace the Southern hospitality and charm. Because the South did rise again, it rose again as a better and stronger society but still keeping it's Southern charm and roots.
The single most uttered comment is when Yankees come back down here to live is, "Boy it's crazy up there, life down here is slower."
For all my Yankee friends that I have here in American Spectator. "Ya all come down here and sit a spell, I'll go in the house and get some ice tea."
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:06AM
Are you trying to encourage migration here? Shhhh...
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 12:00AM
"Are you trying to encourage migration here? Shhhh..."
The West is best. Why do you think Palin loves Alaska? She is no fool as far as her own livings go. That's why i think she might v. well be POTUS someday. She is smarter than she seems.
Timothy L. Pennell| 2.4.11 @ 10:38AM
I hear you, my brother. We all get along, just fine, if we're left to our own devices. It's the CIVIL LIBERTARIANS who's JOB it is, to divide us. We play sports together. We WATCH sports together. And we LEARN on our own, that we are the same.
DIVIDE and CONQUER. Rich vs. Poor. Black vs. White. Old vs. Young.
Leave us alone and we'll be fine.
But they never will.
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 12:06AM
"Are you trying to encourage migration here? Shhhh..."
Only thing wrong w/ the South is its justice. If all those convicted were guilty, then no problem- but the rate of innocent convictions is far too high. Please: trial first, then sentence, always. Every time an innocent is DNA-freed, that is millions in comp.
And who pays for it?: look in the mirror.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:28PM
Must agree with you on this one, Alan. Attorneys are a verminous breed in general (I'll except you, RCV), but Southern ones are a certain brand of slime. America's two slimiest attorneys, Clinton and Edwards, are Southern boys.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:48PM
Ah, yeah, they're all 'innocent', or haven't you heard the ACLU [or SPLC] WORD yet [and the cow jumped over the moon, while the dish ran away with the spoon]!!!!!!!!!!!
Nancy in NC| 2.4.11 @ 4:14PM
But they don't have to stay.
I was born and raised in NC, and have lived here most of my life. I even married one of those GD yankees. However, they don't make many points when constantly telling us "hicks" how they did it up North and run up property values so they can have all the amentities they paid dearly in taxes for up North.
MoeBlotz| 2.4.11 @ 9:12PM
In Texas circa 1985,my friends around the Texas metroplex referred to northerners who visited the area and then left as yankees. Northerners who visited Dallas,liked the area and chose to stay were labelled as damn yankees. In my long haul trucking career,I would deliver a load in Texas and drink cold beer with my buddies in Dallas. We always had a good time. They told me I was a G*d d**n yankee Mother F*****r.
confedgal| 2.5.11 @ 3:04AM
Oh yeah, I know what you mean. I don't know about you but that usually gets my back up and I'm likely to tell them if they don't like the way we do things here they're welcome to go back up north.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:24PM
Remember the difference between 'Yankees" and "Damned Yankees"!
Bob Knutson| 2.7.11 @ 4:15AM
As I was raised in rural Tennessee, I would have to put our brand of BBQ up against that of NC. Not disparaging yours, of course. Sure it is delicious. Otherwise, fully agree with your comments.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.4.11 @ 8:02AM
North Carolina my butt....heh.
I'll take Texas Bar-B-Q any old day.
Especially our beef !
What civilized person could even imagine smearing mustard all over good Bar-B-Q Yuck!
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 8:40AM
You have the wrong Carolina. It's SOUTH Carolina where they smear mustard on their 'cue. And with all due respect to the Texas beef industry, until you've had pig, you haven't had barbecue.
Melvin| 2.4.11 @ 8:47AM
No, no, no Ken. No mustard just plain old barbecued porker with a side of vinager based sauce. I season my pig but not to heavily, because it covers up the taste and many people can't eat pork really spicy, so I more or less leave it up to them. People enjoy more that way.
Granted I'll give Texas the title of barbecued beef. I hope one of these years I can go through Texas again and partake in some barbecued brisket.
One of our project superintendents is from Texas and Ken, this guy makes a brisket that I would kill for. Damn it's good.
Now that you mention it, at least where I live we don't put mustard on Pork, in fact I never even had it that way. Doing it that way would be way would overpower the flavor of the oinker.
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 9:04AM
I've always found that when the pig smoked properly, the need for sauce is minimal.
Dustoff| 2.4.11 @ 9:42AM
HEY YOU TWO.... stop it, your making me dang hungry. (-:
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:07AM
In Davidson County its called "dip", not sauce.
loulou| 2.4.11 @ 11:45AM
AMEN. In fact, sauce is unnecessary.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:27PM
At the end of the day, how many of you can REALLY say you've EVER had really bad barbecue? That's like bad sex or a boring Harley. "Ain't never happened".
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:30PM
Dear Mike,
I must respectfully disagree with you. Moonlite BBQ, Owensboro, KY. Very. Bad. BBQ.
Stephanie| 2.4.11 @ 9:20AM
Ken, nobody here in VA smears mustard on their BBQ! I'v never heard of that. We have vinegar style and red sweet sauce BBQ with FF's or hushpuppies. Yummy!!!!!!!!! And again, pass the butter! PS I love beef BBQ too :-)
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 9:45AM
Ken, it is South Carolina that has mustard based sauce and then that is primarily around the Columbia area. That mustard based sauce is sort of sour and sweet and it marries with pig in a wonderful way. Take that from an old South Carolina boy who has cooked many a hog and pleased many a friend with his pork BBQ and a big plate of Carolina Hash and Rice.
I will acknowledge that Texas has the best beef BBQ in the country. Your tomato based sauces are perfect for the meat. Be glad to have that there because here in south Louisiana we are in a BBQ waste land. There is no decent BBQ to be had, only great gumbo.
This article and all the responses has started my mouth watering so I think this spring, I will go out to my white trash zone, clean my pit, and cook up a pit of South Carolina Redneck BBQ. Now where did I set that beer down?
Consertive View| 2.4.11 @ 3:42PM
Old Joe:
Some modest observations having lived in Charleston SC for a great many years. First, SC BBQ is good. Not great mind you, but certainly good. BBQ is not the claim to fame for South Carolina.
Having said this let me say all is not lost. There is nothing in the world to compare with a South Carolina oyster roast and she crab soup. South Carolina, and Charleston South Carolina, make the best she crab soup there ever was, or is likely to be. I have attended many an oyster roast in Charleston, eaten many a bowl of she crab soup, and there in lies the food heart of South Carolina.
So, give North Carolina its' due. If you want a pig pickin head north a state. If you want oysters and crab done right stay right there where you is at.
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 5:57PM
CV,
I too lived in Charleston and a times miss it dearly but living in Chaleston doesn't get you to the heart of SC BBQ.
I have eaten BBQ al over the south including both ends of NC. Still the best pork BBQ for me is in Lexington, SC and in my backyard here is Covington, LA. If we all had the same taste, we would all be eating the same thing.
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:32PM
yes, texas bbq is the best! mesquite!!!
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:28PM
New Braunfels Smokehouse...
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 10:00AM
Do they have good arugula salad in Texas? I hope not, then the Obamas would know where Texas is and turn your BBQ joints in to tofu and humus joints. For those of you who don't know Texas is up there by Canada.......
jd| 2.4.11 @ 8:05AM
Call me petty but I don't know who I hate looking at more -- Odumbo with is his big ears and empty head or his Rupaul lookalike of a wife.
loulou| 2.4.11 @ 11:44AM
Except that RuPaul is actually good looking. Michelle is a tranny wannabe, tatoo-ed eyebrows and all.
Martine| 2.4.11 @ 11:57AM
RuPaul dresses better.
WilliamInWien| 2.4.11 @ 8:13AM
Add it to the "expert" testimony of Meryl Streep on the danger of Alar to Apples. But then again she rooms with the ChiSOX fan who could not name a single player, past or present.
Louis Jenkins| 2.4.11 @ 8:33AM
Old Texican:
The mustard based bbq comes from South Carolina. Not NC. It ain't bad. In NC you have three different varieties, all of them tomato based. Of course there's the chopped and pulled types, but best of all is the pig picking style. Now I too prefer the Texas style over the Kansas City or the NC types. Can't get enough of it, but that's seldom.
Michelle is trying to appear to be wholesome, but that's about impossible. Obama keeps losing weight because of Michelle's eating program, and some of us may be happy over that. Heck, if he hangs around long enough he may have to take sick leave.
PaulD| 2.4.11 @ 8:43AM
"Slice of pie or dollop of banana pudding." What you talkin' 'bout, Willis? In real NC bar-b-q country, it's peach cobbler or nothing!
Melvin| 2.4.11 @ 8:49AM
Oooooo, especially when peaches are in season, and allowed to ripen and sweeten on the tree. Dagum Paul makes when want to go out and fire up the cooker.
Melvin| 2.4.11 @ 8:50AM
Jeez, the fingers and the brain don't seem connected today. I meant was Dangum makes me want to go out and fire up the cooker.
loulou| 2.4.11 @ 11:43AM
SC BBQ is better.
Old Joe| 2.4.11 @ 5:59PM
Amen
cuban pete| 2.4.11 @ 9:44AM
Every time the president, his wife or any other Democrat( most often the veep) misspeaks or reveals their ignorance of a given topic I think of Dan Quayle. He advised a youngster to use an antiquated spelling of potato and was declared a dunce by everyone in the MSM. The MSM rode that horse forever.
I know that Mr. Obama is a Brobdingnagian intellectual as verified by his academic record and legal publications so I suppose he and the First Lady are entitled to the slack afforded them by the press.
Also, the next time the subject of the president's favorite team,the Chicago White Sox, comes up he should lobby to get Billy Pierce into the Hall of Fame. I'm sure he could make a great argument and Billy's behalf.
Claypoole| 2.4.11 @ 5:16PM
What academic record? What legal publications? If anyone has seen transcripts or writing, please let me know.
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:42PM
I think Pete forgot the /sarc tag.
Now let's get back to BBQ talk. And please, please, please, no more about RuPaul.
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:32PM
Claypoole,
Remember that the Dean of HLS had fewer than 10 publications when she made the Supreme Court. Obama is a poseur.
Jeff| 2.4.11 @ 10:05AM
all I know is that her husband seems to be losing weight while she seems to be gaining weight ...
maybe we should be taking diet advice from him ?
ncatty| 2.4.11 @ 10:08AM
He is smoking more. I just hope they are Camels.
TnT| 2.4.11 @ 10:06AM
For all my friends here allow me to make one point on the discussion of Q ....
You must remember that barbecue is a NOUN ... not a VERB .... is is always cooked 'low' and 'slow' and ALWAYS begins with an 'Oink' ....
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 11:30AM
Amen!
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:33PM
nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ned the Red| 2.4.11 @ 10:16AM
To avoid confusion when referring to Mrs. Obama, rather than call her Obama, she should be called Oba-Ma.
alice moore| 2.4.11 @ 10:41AM
This is just my .02 on Barbecue. I was born in Idaho and transplanted in Virginia. I have visited other Southern States. ALL of these states have wonderful types of Barbecue. It is The 100 Flowers in Bloom; literally come to life. I never thought that I could only love one and eschew the other versions. We can like them all.
The Big E| 2.4.11 @ 2:11PM
Please don't misunderstand me, I do not just love one and eschew the others. They all have their own special virtues, and as I said in my earlier post, I have come to appreciate them all.
After all, in the immortal words of Anthonmy Bourdain, "It's just not a party till someone kills a pig."
Dagny Taggert| 2.4.11 @ 11:02AM
Damn you guys are making me hungry!
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.4.11 @ 11:25AM
All kidding aside,
At my favoritest BBQ joint, ((County Line)) in Texas, I ALWAYS GET THE SAUCE ON THE SIDE!
When one gets truly well cooked, (slow smoked) Q whether beef, chicken, or oink, it is pretty wonderful straight up.
I may dip a little sauce on the last bite or two just for fun....then I take the remainder of the sauce home for left-overs like roast or something.
yum yum again.
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:44PM
Sauce on the side is always a good idea.
MikeD| 2.4.11 @ 9:31PM
Do any of you know about the little cement block joint outside Oxford Miss. on the way to the interstate? You're bringing up memories that I can still taste!
loulou| 2.4.11 @ 11:41AM
"Despite the hypocrisy, Michelle Obama means well."
Says who? Thunderthighs loves her ribs, kobe beef, caviar, lobster, foie gras, ice cream but only for her. Not for the tax paying little people who are too fat.
Martine| 2.4.11 @ 11:58AM
It's all about controlling the rest of us. Everything they do is about control. Everything.
Tom in Michigan| 2.4.11 @ 12:44PM
Even I (nobody would ever accuse me of being an Obama supporter) think this is a bit thin as a criticism of Michelle Obama. There are so many other things about her and her husband more worthy of criticism than what appears to me to be a slight exaggeration of geography. I'm sure she meant the Charlotte "area" has great barbecue just as there's great barbecue not only in Memphis but in the surrounding environs.
I strive to eat a healthy diet myself but, whenever my wife makes ribs-buddy, I'm there but just not over-indulging. Let's concentrate on the real issues and leave this kind of knit-picking to the leftists.
Jack Daniels| 2.4.11 @ 2:22PM
No, let's not. This has given us a good outlet for a start to a great weekend.
The two occupying our White House make me gag and she is a know-it-all who wants all of us who pay her way everyday, to do as SHE says, NOT as she does. No, no, no. She knows better and she has more money. I cringe everytime I see the two of them.
MacDaddy| 2.4.11 @ 1:26PM
Michelle is a fascist oportunist narcissist who is trying to impose her will and values over the rest of America. And to show that she has a 'human' side, she condescendingly communicates her ignorance by trying to descend from her throne occasionally and show she is a "woman of the people." If Barrack wanted to be a two-term president, he should have divorced Michelle and married Oprah. For now, though, we have an Oprah Wannabe in the White House....
Real American| 2.4.11 @ 3:27PM
what's hilarious is that during the Obamacare/individual mandate arguments, the left scoffs at the notion that govt wound EVER require us to eat broccoli or green leafy veggies (or other healthy govt approved food) under their interpretation of the commerce clause. That'd be absurd! Of course, then we see Michelle Obama running around the country telling people what to eat, how much, when and where (and likewise telling restaurants and stores what they ought to sell) and laying the groundwork for the govt fulling mandating our diets to us (infantilizing us even more, in the process). These leftards have no credibility.
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:35PM
you dork. she's no telling you what to eat - they're suggestions and healthy ones too.
it's diet leadership b/c odds are, you're a self-indulger...that's the math, dude!
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 10:03AM
None of there business!
Stan Redmond| 2.5.11 @ 10:04AM
oops... Their!
gilbert| 2.6.11 @ 12:59AM
prosperity should be the business of our government: health.
Juju| 2.4.11 @ 3:42PM
Mrs. Obama would better serve the country if she would practice what she preaches. First off she needs to let kids SEE her exercising which is a big part of a healthy lifestyle. If she doesn't do something herself, pretty soon, she and Oprah are going to have the same size behind.
gilbert| 2.4.11 @ 6:24PM
anyone that is not open to hearing about healthy and well-balanced diet is probably obese or overweight.
who's lean, healthy and physically fit here for their age? if you are then you can't be mad at her for trying to make you healthy. geez, she just cares about your health.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 8:31PM
I'll bet Michelle My Belle could beat [and elbow him into the bushes] Billy Clinton through the door of any BBQ joint [or at least a Mc D's] in Carolina... what you bet???????
irish19| 2.4.11 @ 8:47PM
Tough call! Although I think I'd give Algore the edge over M'chelle in the same contest.
Oldefarte| 2.5.11 @ 10:23AM
You're probably right, but I'll bet you that she wears the pants in her household.....and rather large ones at that!!!!!!!!!
Dewey Brockman| 2.4.11 @ 8:59PM
Andrew Cline - You're a fucking moron.
Oliver| 2.4.11 @ 9:05PM
You petie little bastard. Anything to promote your stupid right wing ideology. I hope your readers are not as stupid as you but then again I may be not
Occam's Tool| 2.6.11 @ 11:33PM
"Petty," Oliver. Petie is the name of a parakeet.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:52PM
Never knew the Constitution was 'right wing ideology' until now!!!!!!
candymatthews| 2.4.11 @ 9:08PM
So ... YOU have a really, really strong history of understanding weight control, do you Mr. Cline. Because from where I sit, it looks like you are pointing at someone who IS doing something while you ... do nothing. Personally, I am an expert at weight loss, and I have not one iota of a problem with Mrs. Obama's statements and efforts in her attempt to help the youth of America. YOU, on the other hand, might have a body mass issue. I'd suggest getting your head checked before you pass judgement on something about which you clearly have neither understand nor authority.
Rick| 2.5.11 @ 1:00AM
Your a rasist!
David Shanahan| 2.5.11 @ 1:10AM
Andrew,
Have you ever seen the "food pyramid"? Some version of it has been around for about 100 years now. Ever heard of farm subsidies? Sure you have. They've been around for a while, too. Government has been involved in our diet for a long, long time, and they have not done the best job of it. It's a fact: we are a fat bunch, and our fatness costs us all in health, wealth, happiness and productivity. But you already knew all that, didn't you Andy. I suppose you have to write something to tickle your base, eh?
JiveBomber| 2.5.11 @ 2:03AM
Either Michelle Obama is ignorant, or is just a silly woman. I lived in the Tarheel State for six years, and during that time, I never used the words "great", "BBQ", and "Charlotte" in the same month much less the same sentence.
Here's the words she needed to know: Wilber's, Great Barbeque, Goldsboro, North Carolina.
DaveS| 2.5.11 @ 10:44AM
Why are we so obsessed with the marginal? So, she eats shoe leather (excuse me, sneaker sole), now and then. But it's not like a spoken gaffe: she wrote it. Nobody outside of the residential quarters of the WH wakes to see if Michelle has said anything. Don't worry: you didn't miss anything. After the WH garden photo-op, and this, can we just please leave the poor girl alone?
DaveS| 2.5.11 @ 10:46AM
Oh yes, Alan Brooks, what sympathy did you have for Quayle when he spelled exactly what was on the public school teacher-provided flash card (the famous 'potatoe' debacle)?
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 12:18AM
I liked Quayle. If he had headed the ticket in '92 I would (did not vote that year; in '96 voted for Gunderson, a 3rd party nut- didn't know he was a conspiracy-nut at that time) have voted for him. But this world was not created to make us happy. All the GOP we have had since '89 is Bushes.
I MIGHT vote Palin as a bone to throw to rightwing feminism. And she is pretty.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 12:57PM
What's your BONE with the 'Bushes' [maybe their wealth or their Yankee Carpetbagism]?????????
Tom| 2.5.11 @ 7:58PM
No surpise, like all Fascists, their motivation is power, their hearts are but full of EVIL. The Demonrats spawn them, or attract them like maggots.
WAKE UP| 2.5.11 @ 10:31PM
Some of us have been saying all along that MICHELLE is the problem.
Alan Brooks| 2.6.11 @ 12:11AM
"Oh yes, Alan Brooks, what sympathy did you have for Quayle when he spelled exactly what was on the public school teacher-provided flash card (the famous 'potatoe' debacle)?"
DEAD WRONG.
I liked Quayle. If he had headed the ticket in '92 I would have voted for him; I almost voted for Bush, but on election eve I decided not to vote. I never voted for Clinton, only Gore and Kerry-- as a protest against RINO #2.
A vote is second only to God in importance, if She exists..
DaveS| 2.6.11 @ 11:42AM
That a non-starter. The 'She' is a non-starter also.
Oldefarte| 2.7.11 @ 1:01PM
Oh, 'She', He or It exists, alright; as you [and everyone] will discover upon the AND UNTO DUST THY SHALT RETURN moment!!!!
St. Thor| 2.6.11 @ 11:21AM
I'll pay attention to Michelle Obama's advice on food when Carl Levin drops 200 pounds.
philfl63| 2.6.11 @ 6:18PM
Yes, we live in a free country and she can tout what she wishes. However, I am free to tell that disgusting she-rilla to shut her pie-hole and mind her own business.
zinka milanov| 2.7.11 @ 1:53AM
Let us hope that the Ist Lady never goes to Utube and finds that great documentary Werner Herzog Eats his Shoe. (He boils the shoe with some garlic and onions and does eat it.). And maybe Michelle's campaign will bring back an interest in Mrs. Nesbitt, the FDR family cook, who served food to the potus from the NY State extension service cookbook, on Eleanor's orders. (
sweetbreads and scrambled eggs for weeks at a time).
NickP| 2.7.11 @ 9:40AM
And you get bet all the crap for the White House Super Bowl party was not bought at her favorite walmart.
tag| 2.7.11 @ 10:04AM
I'll always judge the Silverback by what I saw when they were campaigning! Her, giving HIM a thumbsup, and hand clasp after he made this acceptance speech with her face CLEARLY showing "you did it, you fooled them all, they all fell for it"! That will stay with me for a very long time. This whole thing, prez, is a joke for them. It's a trial run because this jerk doesn't have a clue about what he is doing just like he knew nothing in the senate without Ted Kennedy who held his hand the entire time! He was worthless there, and he isn't doing any better now. That whole family is a blight on American history - he has no right to that office and he knows it. He pulled off one of the greatest hoax's ever perpetrated on the American people! Blacks came out of the woodwork, registered and voted for the first time in their entire life ONLY BECAUSE THIS GUY IS BLACK! No other reason, and this what we got! They need to go BACK into the woodwork and stay there!
wbheff| 2.7.11 @ 10:35AM
I have read through the U. S. Constitution many times, and cannot find a single reference to the "First Lady." There is no authority whatsoever for spending one penny of money confiscated from the taxpayers to fund any activities by the President's wife. She is a private citizen, who happens to be married to the President. She has no authority, nor responsibilities under the Constitution, and spending money on her whims constitutes Fraud, Waste and Abuse (which sounds like the name of a "liberal" law firm), and should be ended forthwith.
Gerald Treffinger| 2.7.11 @ 10:56AM
Did anyone notice the menu at the White House Super Bowl Party ? GHT
GotFreedom| 2.7.11 @ 11:15AM
This woman lives in a "do as I say, not as I do" world! Who died and made her "queen"; giving her the right to tell us what to eat when she herself does not live by her own "rules"? Just look at what was served at the WH for Superbowl Sunday--bratwurst, kielbasa, cheeseburgers, deep-dish pizza and Buffalo wings with sides of German potato salad, twice-baked potatoes and assorted chips and dips. Stop dictating what we should/should not eat--lead by example and then maybe we'll consider what you have to say Mrs. Obama!
Vicki| 2.7.11 @ 5:13PM
You said it! The pathetic thing about it is, they say these things, but we all see what they do as far as eating at McDonalds, having ice cream, etc... everything these people do is hypocracy.
Larry| 2.7.11 @ 12:08PM
I disagree that she has anyone's good intentions at heart. Do you really think that she gives a rat's ass about the "little" people?
It's about control. Witness the food at the White House Super Bowl party.
Vicki| 2.7.11 @ 5:15PM
I agree. They don't care about anyone except their own little circle, and who pull their strings - all without the USA health in mind.
Betty-Jane Osborne| 2.7.11 @ 1:01PM
She should start with Monsato, GMOing and ring the FDA
Evie| 2.7.11 @ 12:33PM
I don't care for Obama & his wife, but I believe articles like this is petty, and more like a gossip column--not worthy of a serious organization. I want to be kept informed of issues of importance, not those that just tear down.
RME KRNL| 2.7.11 @ 1:09PM
Oh, I'm surprised Madame Michelle "Antoinette" Obama doesn't want us "little people" to just eat cake.
Kai| 2.7.11 @ 1:42PM
You want to eat all the barbecue and drink all the sugar-laced sweet tea you want? ok then, go ahead. but when your health insurance premiums go up because you take a bigger piece of the healthcare pie, don't complain and expect healthier individuals like myself to pay your costs. Yes, the government should NOT be mandating dietary guidelines to people. That is not their business. However, if Americans cannot show the responsibility necessary when it comes to things like health and finances, then I and other people who HAVE been responsible and made sacrifices should not be expected to cover your gluttony by paying higher insurance premiums or pay for Socialist programs to support your poor choices through higher taxes. Go ahead....eat what you want and how much of it you want. Just be prepared to pay out of pocket for your diabetes medications, Bariatric surgery, Cholesterol meds, or health bypass surgery and don't expect the government to send you a check each month when you get to fat and sick to work. Obesity and diabetes are NOT diseases; they are lifestyle choices. You eat a bigger piece of the pie (healthcare), you should pay a bigger chunk.
mp| 2.7.11 @ 1:44PM
this might be the dumbest thing I've ever read. will the next one call out rock bands for saying "*insert your city* has the best fans!"?
Seriously. Grow up.
T| 2.7.11 @ 2:25PM
Michelle Obama has done nothing to ban your Twinkie and corn syrup supply, you stupid rednecks. She's trying to put salad bars in schools so that your kids have the option to walk to class instead of roll.
Pettiness is the refuge of the weak, Andy.
Vicki| 2.7.11 @ 5:17PM
Give me a break. What these kids eat in school is one small meal, 5x a week. That will not do anything about their weight or health. ITS THE PARENTS who are to put healthy food on the table and bring their children up where they know the healthy choices. NOT THE GOVERNMENT!
Jim in Virginia| 2.7.11 @ 2:58PM
Mr. Cline: it must have been a VERY slow news day when you came up with the idea for this article. Your fear of government eventually dictating your food choices reminds some of William F. Buckley's resistance to laws requiring motorcyclists to wear helmets. Yes, those clamoring to ride helmet-less often claimed helmet laws infringed on their liberties and rights. Fortunately, the cost to society of head injuries to helmetless motorcyclists convinced the majority of citizens and their legislators that it was in society's overall best interest to force riders to wear helmets (or, for that matter, seat belts in their cars). If one wants to be a member of a society, one should strive to do what is acceptable to or best for society and not go off in 308 million directions doing what his or her mind has concluded is best for him or her as an individual. By that I do not suggest no place exists for individual rights. It is just that individual rights have a limit (try yelling “fire” in a crowded cinema when no fire exists!).
Layne in Virginia| 4.28.11 @ 9:11PM
You Sir,are a plain and simple IDIOT.The reason seat belt and helmet laws were enacted was INSURANCE companys wanted them enacted.The same people that had the national speed limit dropped in the 70s.Was proven it didnt stop highway deaths.Cops used to say I have never unstrapped a dead man,nother lie.Only a hardcore liberal that wouldnt know how to find his own food would try to tell others how to live.
L. Bakon| 2.7.11 @ 3:17PM
There isn't one thing the Obama family could do to my satisfaction either Mr. Cline. Ever.
Some would say that you and your fellow journalists are souless partisan twits who walk down the boulevard trying to determine the political affiliation of everything in view.
Is that fire hydrant a Republican or Democrat. probably a socialist it was provided by the government. Is the sun a Republican? How about the clouds.
Never stray from your team.
Excellent journalism. Well played sir.
David| 2.7.11 @ 5:24PM
Occam's Tool, you hit it on the head with the reminder that when Michelle had that cush $300,000 per year job, only getting it after Bam Bam became a U. S Senator, that she sent poor people to other facilities.
If that were a repub who did that, the media would never let us forget it. Where is conservative media to remind us when the dems really, really do something outrageous???
FedUp| 2.8.11 @ 1:52AM
I was in a McDonalds a while ago, sitting in front of the play area watching the kids play...... yes playing at a McDonalds!!!.... after eating their lunch. There were about 12 kids there and none of them seemed to have a problem with their weight!
J Shirley Cowan| 3.10.11 @ 2:25PM
Lead me to the BBQ (with slaw), tea and a side of fries on the side!!!!
jacky| 3.20.11 @ 5:59AM
I was in a McDonalds a while ago
jacky| 3.20.11 @ 6:00AM
I was in a McDonalds a while ago
jacky| 3.20.11 @ 6:00AM
I was in a McDonalds a while ago
Christian Louboutin| 6.23.11 @ 6:06AM
The classic example: In 2004, Sen. John Kerry, trying to bolster his regular guy image, spoke of Green Bay's hallowed ";Lambert Field." It's Lambeau Field. Ten dork points for Kerry.
weddingdress| 7.1.11 @ 12:46AM
I was in a McDonalds a while ago, sitting in front of the play area watching the kids play...... yes playing at a McDonalds!!!.... after eating their lunch. There were about 12 kids there and none of them seemed to have a problem with their weight!
العاب بنات| 4.11.12 @ 3:51PM
I have eaten BBQ al over the south including both ends of NC. Still the best pork BBQ for me is in Lexington, SC and in my backyard here is Covington, LA. If we all had the same taste, we would all be eating the same thing.