Holder team tramples civil rights -- by enforcing left-wing view
that civil rights law exists only to protect certain minorities,
the heck with everyone else.
Attorney General Eric Holder and his minions, along with some of
their slavish apologists in the media, are deliberately trafficking
in lies of great note. They prevaricate with great enthusiasm, and
they excuse lawlessness with fierce disdain. They -- both the
Department of Justice (DOJ) officials and their leftist amanuenses
pretending to be journalists -- brazenly ignore the public's right
to information, and intentionally distract attention from relevant
facts and from their own deep beliefs.
These conclusions arise from the accumulated weight of
evidence in what should be a broadening scandal emanating from the
infamous New Black Panther Party voter-intimidation case. Not that
one would know it from the main pages or airtime of
establishment-media outlets, but the Panther-related issue of
race-based decision-making at DOJ reached crests last week on
multiple fronts.
Deserving of howls of media outrage, but instead
attracting barely a peep of protest, was the highly disturbing
evidence of a major cover-up at DOJ, as discussed by both the
Washington Times and the Heritage Foundation's
Hans von Spakovsky. (Please do read both links for more
information on those aspects of the scandal.) Von Spakovsky makes
an excellent argument that both internal investigative arms at DOJ
are "protecting Obama's political appointees and disregarding their
ethical and professional violations in the New Black Panther Party
case."
In any other circumstance, if an administration 1) claimed
utterly bogus privileges never before recognized by law, 2) dragged
its feet for 16 months on a rather simple internal investigation,
3) put partisan officials in place to oversee or skew the
investigations, and 4) stiffed Congress and the media and an
independent agency on formal, legally weighty information requests,
then the axis of CBS/New York Times/AP/White House press
corps would be in full-on Watergate mode with breathless updates
about the latest nefarious occurrences.
Yet that's just the cover-up. In this case, the "crime"
(metaphorically speaking) really is worse. For well over a year
now, the biggest normative violation has not involved the actual
Panther intimidation, or even anything focusing on the Panthers at
all. Instead, the more important focus has been on the convincing
evidence that both the DOJ Civil Rights Division and the Obama
political team at the Department, up to and including Holder,
exhibit a pervasive hostility against the idea of race-neutral
enforcement of laws related to civil rights, and have both spoken
and acted accordingly. Most concretely, did Deputy Assistant
Attorney General Julie Fernandes adopt a policy of not enforcing,
or not enforcing in an equal manner, two separate laws relating to
voting rights and procedures? Two sworn testimonies say that she
said as much at specific, widely attended Civil Rights Division
meetings in the fall of 2009, and further sworn testimony says she
and the Obama team directly ignored a key lawyer's recommendation
to enforce one of those laws against eight states in obvious
violation thereof.
These incidents get to the very heart of the entire
investigation by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. From the very
adoption of this topic for its statutorily mandated annual report,
the Commission's investigation was deliberately broader than just
the Panther case alone, but instead was to discover if DOJ had
adopted "a change in policy or practice" that remained "consistent
with proper enforcement" of civil rights laws. Contemporaneous
media accounts made abundantly clear that the overriding issue
was this (quoting the excellent Jennifer Rubin): "And therein lies
the most likely answer to the mystery as to why the Obama team
would want to undo a victory in a high-profile civil rights case.
The notion that civil rights laws apply to all citizens,
and are not on the books merely to protect minority groups or to
pursue white racists, is an anathema to the liberal civil rights
establishment and their sympathetic partners in the Justice
Department."
All along, therefore, the question was if the Obama-Holder
Justice Department was giving support to the internal Civil Rights
Division belief that civil rights laws should not be enforced
against black perpetrators who abused the rights of white victims.
This is explosive stuff. It cuts to the very heart of equal rights
under the law. It's also straight out of Orwell's Animal
Farm, where some animals were "more equal than
others."
In December the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights adopted
the main text of its draft major report into all these matters, and
last Friday the entire report officially was released -- after
inclusion, for the first time on the record, of the comments
dissenting from the report, and other comments rebutting those
dissents, penned by individual members of the
Commission.
Here is the absolutely key thing to note about the
individual statement of the two liberal commissioners, Arlan
Melendez and Michael Yaki: Nowhere in the main text of their
23-page comment did they even mention the name of Julie Fernandes.
The entirety of their discussion of this most explosive of the
commission's findings was relegated to a single footnote that never
even addressed the substance of Fernandes' alleged statements or
actions, but only highlighted an alleged, almost infinitesimal,
discrepancy between the two whistleblowers that told of the
Fernandes meetings. There is good reason for the liberal
commissioners' failure to address this issue: Fernandes' statements
and actions can neither be denied nor justified. Too many people
were at the meetings in question for it to be plausibly refuted.
The Holder team repeatedly has ignored the same questions; it
repeatedly refused to allow Fernandes to be deposed on the matter;
most importantly, it has not explained why -- if the department's
policy is not as Fernandes (according to the
whistleblowers) described it -- the administration never did
enforce the law against the eight states in violation even after
whistleblower Christ Coates, in his official capacity, brought the
violations to the Holder team's attention and recommended action on
it.
If the Fernandes issue is not addressed, then
everything else by Messrs. Melendez and Yaki is pure
misdirection and obfuscation. After all, in Commissioner Gail
Heriot's formal comments released last Friday, Heriot noted
"Commissioner Yaki's earlier declaration that if Deputy Assistant
Attorney General Julie Fernandes made the statement she is alleged
by Christian Adams to have made, she 'should be fired.' As he so
colorfully put it, 'That person should be tossed out on their ear
in two seconds flat.'"
Abigail Thernstrom, vice chairman of the Commission, was
even more colorful during hearings: "It is simply impossible to
believe that [Fernandes] said anything remotely like]" what was
reported. "…. She surely didn't announce that. I mean, unless she
is some sort of moron." Yet Thernstrom herself wrote a dissent to
the official report saying as follows: "The majority charges that
racial double standards govern the enforcement of the Voting Rights
Act in the Holder Justice Department. If that can be convincingly
demonstrated, it will be a grave indictment of this administration.
But that evidentiary showing awaits further investigation by the
Department of Justice and Congress."
Thernstrom ignores the fact that sworn testimony, by law,
is evidence, unless directly disputed and refuted. And the
only reason it "awaits further investigation" is because of the
lawless stonewalling by Holder's team -- made easier by
Thernstrom's repeated refusal to support a single Commission effort
(once the topic was chosen as its official report) to garner
further evidence on its own about whether Fernandes was indeed the
sort of "moron" who would say what seemed inconceivable to
Thernstrom.
The failure to enforce the law against the eight scofflaw
states, and the unrefuted charges that Fernandes announced a policy
of refusing to enforce that law, are themselves strong evidence of
partisan and probably racialist attitudes ruling the roost at DOJ.
As Commissioner Gail Heriot noted in her own formal comments
released last Friday, the allegations about Fernandes are made all
the more believable because Fernandes also was quoted by a liberal
news service expressing just those abhorrent views -- the views
that civil rights laws aren't intended to protect whites also -- on
an occasion before she joined DOJ. "The law was written to protect
black people," Fernandes said back then.
The truth is that this viewpoint enjoys overwhelming
support in lefty legal circles. Sickeningly wrongheaded as it is,
it is not unusual, but an ideological touchstone. That truth was
made abundantly clear especially in the pointed rebuttal by
Commissioner Heriot, and also in the other interlocking statements
by her and Commissioners Todd Gaziano and Peter Kirsanow. Together,
their statements are brilliant expositions of the entire, sprawling
matter. (They are included in the report that is the first entry at
this site, which
also provides every other document of note in this case.) As
Gaziano noted, even the former chairman of the Commission itself,
Mary Frances Berry, wrote in an official Commission report --
blatantly ignoring the text of the civil rights laws themselves --
that "Civil rights laws were not passed to give civil rights
protections to all Americans." Read that again: The civil
rights of whites should not be protected, according to a liberal
former chair of the Commission, pushing the same noxious view (in
dissent from the majority) attributed to Ms. Fernandes and the bulk
of her compatriots at DOJ. The
Washington Post and the Christian Science Monitor, among
others, have found and published ample evidence (cited by Heriot)
of other current and former DOJ attorneys saying much the same
thing.
Again, this is at the center of the entire Commission
investigation springing from the Black Panther affair, and at the
root of questions pushed by a number of Republican congressmen led
by Frank Wolf of Virginia and Lamar Smith of Texas -- questions
stonewalled by DOJ in the same way DOJ stonewalled the Commission.
Holder knows this is the case. Every one of his minions knows this
is the case. Their toadies in lefty (and even some in the
"mainstream") media know this is true. And why should they not: It
is only a step away, different in degree but not entirely different
in kind, from their advocacy of the more aggressive forms of
affirmative action. In affirmative action, the government provides
extra benefits to minorities; in these civil rights disputes, the
left would have government protect minorities against illegal
actions that whites are unprotected from. The logic is the same,
except that in affirmative action they can pretend they are merely
offering benefits but with no "victims"; whereas with a failure to
protect the civil rights of white Americans, the lefties would be
forced to assert that the victims just aren't really worth
protecting.
What a sleazy, troll-like obfuscation of the issue at hand.
Since Obama's cronies exhibit blatant racist views and practices,
we must ignore them because the Iraq War was all about the oil!
Sorry troll, America doesn't believe the lie anymore. Stick to
the issue and facts at hand, and take something to help with your
Bush Derangement Syndrome.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 4:47PM
all i'm saying is that politicians are corrupt like this. both
GOP and democrats. what else would you expect?
Horace| 2.3.11 @ 8:26PM
That some politicians of both parties are corrupt doesn't
invalidate the writer's argument. Other than expressing an
irrelevant argument, what is your motive in writing? This scandal
has far more implications than Watergate. This has to do with
corruption in the very law enforcement agency that enforces our
Constitution. Without confidence in the justice system we are lost
as a nation of laws.
Halliburton???? Give me a Fvcken Break? Go back to the Sand
Niger's you work for!
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:03PM
I hope your mama's proud of you.
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 12:17AM
I think these bubbas are secretly saying "whites are prettier,
and our kin will rule the world"
But not forever! I guarantee you will lose someday. The world
will not be yours.
Gunner Asch| 2.4.11 @ 4:15AM
Mr Brooks, That comment is just plain ol' silly. I don't really
know what's sadder, the possibility that you might not know it or
the possibility that you do and just don't care.
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:40PM
i wonder where the hell the fbi is on this.
Brian Mc| 2.3.11 @ 6:37AM
I wonder what would happen if I went to the polls and was
confronted and intimidated by another who happened to have the same
skin tone as myself. I suppose this would be no big deal since it
was not a question of race...
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 12:19AM
"This scandal has far more implications than Watergate."
What?? the most untrue statement at AS today. Horace the
congenital LIAR.
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 12:21AM
"This scandal has far more implications than Watergate."
You think ANYONE here (or anywhere else)would fall for
this??
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:41PM
after the ahole was taken away by ambulance nothing would
happen.
Melvin| 2.3.11 @ 7:36AM
Robbins Mitchell that pretty much sums it up. A person would
have thought that we as a society kind of advance a little bit
since reconstruction. But Oh no every single day, every single
hour, every single minute, and every single second we are
constantly brow beat on how Black Amerians are still held down by
the, "Man" The man being angry white homophobic, racist, bigoted
males.
Every suck ass group out there blames white males for their
miserable pathetic lives that they live. Do these groups look in
the mirror and ask themselves. "Am I responsible for me, should I
hold my myself more accountable for my lot in life?" No, they take
the easy way out and blame the white guy.
And the last thing I would expect is the DOJ and the Nation's AG
falling into that same old B.S."We must correct all the injustices
that have befallen the Black man, and if that means persecuting
another group of Americans so be it, the ends justify the means,
What ever it takes.
I would like to ask Eric Holder. "How long are you going to blame
me for everything in Black Americans Lives? Is it opened ended to
where I will never have relief from your wrath or is there an
expiration date that will be legislated by the Black Caucus's on
Capitol Hill?"
Every time a member of the Black Congressional Caucus gets in-front
of a microphone they always utter this phrase. "We still have a
long way to go." Whaddaya mean we have still have a long way to go?
Has there not been any progress made between Blacks and Whites.
Have we not advanced to the betterment of our American
Culture?
This is not just regulated to the Black Americans, now it seems
that every group wants their turn on chewing on the White guys ass.
Womens groups, Hispanics, Homosexuals, and even those groups that
have recently immigrated to this Country are jumping on the
bandwagon. "Whaddaya mean it's my fault you just got here."
Me I treat others exactly like I want to be treated. I Have been
married to a woman who is not of my color for darn near 28 years,
so that age old argument won't wash with me.
We are a Nation that has prided itself on being governed by the
rule of law. Eric Holder knows full well that justice needs to be
color blind for us to thrive as a society. But then again leave it
to the Liberals, and Progressives to even screw that up, and they
call themselves educated.
A more fitting description should be. Liberals, and Progressives
don't know their own ass from a hole in the ground.
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 8:02AM
MELVIN;
You said it perfectly. We're all the same color under the skin:
pink! I think it's time for the formation of a WHITE CONGRESSIONAL
CAUCUS. Actually, I think it's time for whites to establish mirror
organizations to EVERY discriminatory thing the Blacks and their
lib buddies have started. How about the "AMERICAN WHITE COLLEGE
FUND? How about "WHITE PRIDE MONTH"?
Then we'll get to watch the sputtering, foaming at the mouth,
screaming and wailing by the dems, libs, and media morons. How long
will it take these people to realize that we've had enough and
won't take it any more?
Stephanie| 2.3.11 @ 9:05AM
They, the progressives, don't care if we don't like their
governing by racebaiting. They keep us divided so they can control
us.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 1:03PM
Uh, Stephanie, I'm looking at the article and the comments and
it really doesn't look like the progressives are the ones
racebaiting. Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh took up the racebaiting
mantle sometime around 2008 and the rest of the far-right fringe
has followed their lead.
Poppakap| 2.3.11 @ 1:36PM
Oh really J-boy? How about some evidence? Can you provide any
that isn't produced by Keith Olbermann? Huffington Post? Instead of
hurling brainless soundbites, try engaging in honest debate about
the issue at hand. Since you can't defend the racist actions of the
Obama DOJ or refute the facts presented in the article you have to
deflect and obfuscate.
Congrats on the $5 you just earned from your Soros-backed
masters for posting on a conservative site. Job well done. You're
doing a bang-up job of changing hearts and minds.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:47PM
Wow, crazy person on hand. I know about the racebaiting drivel
of beck and limbaugh by...wait for it....listening to beck and
limbaugh! I never listen to Olbermann, rarely read the huffington
post, and if Soros is paying $5/comment for this then I'll do it
all day.
Why would I need to provide any proof of racebaiting from random
liberal sites when all the proof I need is on the very article and
comments that I'm commenting on?
Melvin| 2.3.11 @ 2:20PM
Mindless Liberal, Progressive drivel. Go home son your out of
your league.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:48PM
So I'm the one just posting soundbites? lol
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 9:44PM
Jon,
You're obviously a mindless troll who has never listened to
either Beck or Limbaugh. NEVER once have I heard them say anything
even MILDLY racist, or I would have shut them off in a
heartbeat.
Either produce some proof, or go away. Idiot.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:50PM
If you can't tell it's racist, that says a lot about your own
mindset.
Tim the Enchanter| 2.4.11 @ 3:55PM
What color is Bo Snerdley, Rush's call screener?
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:09PM
Let me guess....Rush hired a Black guy, has him make most of the
mocking comments on the show about black people, and uses that as
cover if someone accuses him of racism. Really, do you seriously
fall for this stuff?
The mother of several of Thomas Jefferson's children was black,
and that didn't stop him from enslaving a few dozen black people.
Strom Thurmond's first lover was Black, and that didn't stop him
from running for president on a segregation platform. But you think
that Rush hiring a Black guy somehow means that he's never made a
racist statement?
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:06PM
If you see racism where there is none, that says something about
your character.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:16PM
Hmmmm....so when Rush Limbaugh says that "Obama is the greatest
living example of a reverse racist, and now he's appointed one,"
does that say something about Rush's character? Or how about when
he speaks of "A white, racist leadership of the Democrat party
trying to ace out Clyburn." Or how about when Glenn Beck called
Obama a racist?
Oh, it's only a character defect when people on the other side
make accusations of racism, right?
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:43PM
you seem to lack critical analysis skills jonathan.
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:05PM
Hmmm...strange. I keep hearing that and then I turn on the
shows, and I don't hear anything that remotely suggests it. I've
noticed that many leftists go with stereotypes, the most famous
being the ignorant, redneck, racist, Christian conservative. Now it
seems they pass stereypes of Beck, Fox News, etc. around and go by
them rather than simply listening to hear the truth.
I often hear the accusation of "intellectual laziness" aimed
toward conservatives. To believe what Daily Kos says about Beck
instead of listening to the show is a pure example of this.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:30PM
Besides the fact that both of them automatically assumed that
Barack Obama was a racist without any supporting evidence, how
about these statements:
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
"You ever notice how all composite pictures of wanted criminals
look like Jesse Jackson?"
"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often
looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any
weapons. There, I said it."
Then there's referring to Obama as an "angry black guy", calling
Obama's economic program "reparations", accusing Obama of
deliberating destroying the economy because he's black and wants
payback, claiming that if Obama weren't black he'd just be a tour
guide in Hawaii, saying that "In Obama's America, the white kids
get beat up while the black kids cheer", calling Obama a "little
black man-child", claiming that Colin Powell only supported Obama
because he's black....you get the picture?
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:22PM
yeah, mike. please spearhead that effort. go right ahead. i'd
like to see how far you get dr. laura. i mean, seriously. go ahead.
i'd love to see you try. you won't even try - you know it'll fail
miserably.
but you won't. you're just going to call me names and talk about
the 1700 or 1800's again. we are in the 21st century. hello?!?! you
want to set us back to the stone ages - it's 2011, sir.
god as my witness, i am going make sure i put your archaic,
violent, unrealistic and outdated rhetoric in check.
Poppakap| 2.3.11 @ 1:43PM
With God as your witness? Really Gil? Do you know what that
phrase means? Do you regularly consult with the Divine? Do you
actually ask for His guidance in ensuring your life is holy? Do you
have enough spiritual maturity to understand that invoking His name
in an attempt to give gravity to your ugliness is not only ironic
but blasphemous? Didn't think so.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:38PM
Poppakap: Which God? Thor? Zeuss?Aphrodite?, Tiki? Vishna? Old
Testament God? New Testament God? Allah? (Heaven forbid!) Elohim?
Tenrikyo? etc. My point? Not all people pray to "your" God and they
have faith too.
Joe| 2.3.11 @ 2:57PM
Umm....I truly wouldn't want to strain your reasoning capacities
overmuch, Mr. Monk, but...logically, wouldn't it be the "God" that
gilbert called on to witness? Shouldn't you be asking *him* which
God he meant? Not overly complicated, I'd have thought.
Mark| 2.3.11 @ 4:12PM
Aw, geez, da monk! Not again with the "Which God? Thor? Zeuss?
blah, blah, blah..." I have a great idea. How 'bout sharing
something original with us.
God, is God! Make's no difference in the Name of the "Holy"
one!
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:07PM
Now THIS is a stereotypical answer.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 4:54PM
whether i believe in god or not does not matter. what is
supposed to be true is that he sees ALL. no matter if i believe or
not.
he'll be my witness no matter what.
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:45PM
gil, too bad that wasn't satire.
Jon| 2.3.11 @ 12:38PM
Hear! Hear! Well put!
Jon| 2.3.11 @ 12:40PM
my above statement is in favor of Melvin.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 1:06PM
Melvin, you are aware that the KKK torpedo'd Reconstruction
quite effectively, right? That's why for a brief moment we had a
couple black senators and a governor in the 1870s, and then it
didn't happen again for 80+ years. State-sponsored segregation and
discrimination makes it fairly difficult to advance. The ticking
clock on advancement started in the 1960s, not the 1860s....and
there are still a lot of issues.
Poppakap| 2.3.11 @ 2:07PM
Johnny,
You'd better quit talking about history when you don't know it
any better than the soundbites tossed out by your pinko buddies at
the local community college.
First of all, the black representatives that were elected during
reconstruction were Republicans. Every single one of them. Why?
Because Democrats have always been about identity politics. They
were during reconstruction, and they are today. That's why all the
early (read: reconstruction thru gilded age era) black politicians
were Republicans. Plus, there were absolutely zero black US
senators until after the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act which
was carried by...Republicans. The most ardent opposition to this
landmark legislation came from Democrats including Al Gore's father
and KKK Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd (Byrd led a filibuster against
the legislation, such was his animus towards blacks, Catholics,
gays, etc.). So when you spout wise about civil rights beginning in
the 1960's as though it was a time of great lefty leadership, you
couldn't be more wrong.
In addition, blacks began surging in their importance and
acceptance as members of U.S. society during the Roaring 20's when
the Harlem Renaissance was taking place. The number of wealthy
blacks exploded at that time as whites bought countless books,
records, and paintings produced by talented people of African
heritage. Of course, racism and discrimination was still a large
part of American society, unfortunately. But the changes that
ultimately have produced the most integrated society in world
history didn't come as a result of pinko politics. It came as a
result of good people of all races, nationalities, and creeds
putting their differences aside and doing their best to live
together peacefully as part of the American dream.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:41PM
Poppakap: You are correct with your history, but why the name
calling? Is everybody you disagree with a "Pinko" Can I call you a
"Brown Shirt"? No, that would be discourtious
Horace| 2.3.11 @ 8:42PM
Pinkos (communists), Nazis (national socialists), Fascists
(Mussolini's) bunch and progressives, they all have one thing in
common; the militant imposition of political power, all with the
high-minded idea that they represent the little guy and out to give
him a better life. They've all come to power in the wake of crisis,
manufactured or otherwise. Note what got Obama to power; the war
and the economy. He had absolutely no qualifications to become
president, yet here he is, in all his glory. Only a crisis would
give such a person a chance.
The Obama regime is comprised of old left-wing radicals,
progressives and communists, all who thought that the presidency of
Obama was the one Christamas that Santa Claus left them more than
just a lump of coal. Pinkos, name calling? Yes, but it is but
calling a spade a spade. It's just an inconvenient truth that the
new left would rather keep quiet.
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 9:48PM
Horace, thank you. Well spoken.
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:47PM
commie works best for me it covers all the socilaist morons with
one word.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:58PM
"Plus, there were absolutely zero black US senators until after
the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act which was carried
by...Republicans. "
You're just proving your ignorance of history. Hiram Rhodes
Revels. Blanche Bruce. Two Black senators a good 90 years before
the Civil Rights Act.
"First of all, the black representatives that were elected
during reconstruction were Republicans. Every single one of them.
Why? Because Democrats have always been about identity
politics."
- LOL. So when Republicans elect Black reps, it's because the
Democrats practice identity politics. But when the Democrats elect
Black reps, it's because the Democrats practice identity politics.
You see the beautiful logic you've put together there?
If you don't understand anything about the evolution of
political parties and the flip of Southern Democrats to become
Southern Republicans after the Civil Rights movement, then what use
is explaining history to you?
"The most ardent opposition to this landmark legislation came from
Democrats"
The most ardent opposition came from Southerners. Northern
Democrats supported the Civil Rights Act, Northern Republicans
somewhat supported the Civil Rights Act, and Southerners were
against it no matter what they're political ideology. When the
Democratic presidents pushed the movement and signed the bills,
White Southern politicians switched en masse from the Democratic
Party to the Republican party, while Black voters switched en masse
to the Democrats.
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 2:17PM
And you are aware, Melvin, that the KKK was an organization
filled with Democrats, right? You are aware that the infamous
segregationists of the 1960's, from Bull Connor to George Wallace
were Democrats, right?
Melvin| 2.3.11 @ 2:23PM
Are you aware the the KKK was Southern Democrats, most noted was
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd former Grand Klegal.
Also the main opposition to the Civil Rights law was Democrats.
Mike| 2.5.11 @ 1:24PM
Melvin, not sure of the numbers, but the Klan's membership was
very high in most of the Northern states. Like the South this
membership was Democrats.
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:10PM
What are the issues??
Mike| 2.5.11 @ 1:10PM
Jonathan, I hope you are aware slavery, the KKK, and
segregation, were institutions of the Democratic party until the
1960s. Divide and conquer has been added.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:33PM
Mike, what do you think happened to all those racist Southern
Democrats? 95% of them became racist Southern Republicans. When the
South switched from faithfully Democratic to faithfully Republican,
what did you think happened?
Lawrence Boccardi| 2.3.11 @ 7:37AM
As annoying as it is, this is insignificant. It is only racism.
Of greater threat is their collective inability to attack the
radical Muslim situation, or even to call it by name. Just the
difference in the way they handled the Iranian uprising in the
summer of 2009, and the way they will install the Muslim
brotherhood in Egypt, is all one needs to know. These "leaders" are
going to get us bombed.
Darin| 2.3.11 @ 8:28AM
Actually, it's a symptom of a bigger problem. And it's the
reason why this administration refuses to deal with the real,
documented threat of Islam. The underlying problem is the viewpoint
that everything done by white Christians is evil and thus
everything done to oppose them is by definition good. Racism in any
form is evil as it degrades a targeted segment of the population.
And all political correctness aside, Islam is a religion/cultural
based on the belief that certain groups (e.g., Muslim men) are
superior to all other groups (including white Christians as well as
Muslim women) and thus should be ground into dust.
Stephanie| 2.3.11 @ 9:07AM
I don't see it as collective inability to call Islam what it is.
It is their unwillingness to call it terrorism, a theocracy, a
blight.
I do agree with you though, this administrations action or lack
therof will cost us handsomely.
AustinDave| 2.3.11 @ 2:56PM
Be careful, If you keep disagreeing with our government they
will label you a terorist. I am still not really sure why folks
that fight against our invading and occupying their country because
the citizens don't like the oppressive dictator that we have chosen
for them are to considerred so radical. What a bunch of brainwashed
sheep we have in this country. When in doubt, always blame the
banks. Social division is the tool banksters use to bleed the world
dry. Why do you think the Rothschilds have more wealth than the
rest of the world combined? They cause, then finance conflict. End
the Rothschild's stranglehold on this country. End The Fed!
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 9:50PM
Couldn't agree more. End the Fed!
AustinDave| 2.3.11 @ 3:12PM
By the way, does anyone really think that it is a coincidence
that all the top administration appointees are banksters?
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 12:09PM
There's a good article over at the American Thinker website
today about calling Islam what it is, and it makes the very salient
point that the radical Muslims are not the ones carrying out Jihad
- those are the orthodox Muslims - the radicals are the ones who
are NOT trying to carry out Jihad.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 1:01PM
Except that the course of Muslim history shows short periods of
violent jihad separated by centuries where nothing of the sort was
seen. Add that to the fact that a tiny % of the Muslim population
has participated in violent jihad at any one time, and it's hard to
see how it can be considered "orthodox". I mean, come on, Wahabi
Islam didn't even come around until the 18th century and has always
been strongly opposed by Sunni traditionalists.
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 2:27PM
I would advise you not to quote history, since you obviously
know nothing of it. Since the founding of Islam, it has been a
religion of war. It spread at the point of a sword across North
Africa and into Spain and eventually France before its advance was
halted, and in the east spread throughout Persia and into India,
and through Turkey into Eastern Europe, all at the point of a
sword. The Koran repeatedly admonishes believers to fight and kill
"Infidels," and even promises holy retribution against Muslims who
do not fight and kill "Infidels."
I will say it again - Islam has been at war with civilization
since its founding, and will be at war with civilization till its
eradication.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:45PM
And what do you call the Crusades? Or the Holacaust? Or the
Inquisition?
Joe| 2.3.11 @ 3:05PM
The Crusades? A perfectly legitimate defensive counter-attack
against violent Moslem invasion of (primarily Byzantine) Christian
territories, with concommitant oppression of Christian inhabitants.
The Inquisition? Most Inquisitorial courts were more fairly run and
more lenient than their secular counterparts. None of that matters,
though, because, you see, we (the Christian West) have outgrown
those sorts of things, while the ROPOs have not...and *cannot*,
because, while there is NOTHING in the New Testament enjoining
Christians to undertake violence (and so, when it happens, it is
the fault of imperfect Christian humans, not of Christianity per
se), for the ROPOs, their basic scripture actively calls for
violence and conquest. The religions simply cannot be analogized,
for that reason. Again, Mr. Monk, fairly simple...though not
simplistic.
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 10:08PM
Joe,
I agree, but you did not discuss the Holocaust that was
mentioned as well, by "da" Idiot. I shall attempt to do so
here:
The Holocaust was caused by mercilessly evil men, who desired to
eliminate the scapegoat they created to explain why their race had
not achieved as much as others, or could have possibly achieved
(kind of like some Democraps of today), and why they had been
forced to repay enormous debts. They blamed their poverty,
hardships, etc., on the Jews (not on the Globalist ambitions of
WWI), and made retribution their main goal. NONE of this is
Christian in its nature, yet many today claim that these evil
bastards were "christian" and attack Christianity with their
nonsense. It is easily disproved if one wants to really check the
history, but the rumor persists nonetheless. What the evil bastards
REALLY wanted was power. Pure, unadulterated power--AND, they
thought the Bible and Biblical history could potentially lead them
to that power, even though they had no clue as to the nature of the
true power of the Word. It is my sincerest hope and belief that
they are paying for their blasphemies and misdeeds as we write
this, but regardless, they were not Christian and showed none of
the characteristics of a Christian as defined in the Bible.
Hopefully "da" Idiot will learn of these characteristics.
Soon.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 11:10PM
Big E - you're quoting short periods and that's it. The events
you describe took place in a very limited time frame compared to
the 1300 years of Muslim history.
And if you take those periods, then how about Constantine
conquering by the name of the sword? How about the conquering of
Europe by Christian kings? The priests and soldiers going
hand-in-hand to colonize both American continents, Africa, and most
of Asia in the "name of Christianity"?
I am actually a deeply devout Christian, and my life revolves
around my faith. But I know that true Christian faith does not grow
at the point of the sword, nor at the expense of lying about world
history in order to make those who claimed to practice my faith
look better.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 11:12PM
And, yeah, I somehow forgot to mention the Crusades,
Inquisition, Native American genocide, WWI, Mussolini, or
Hitler.
Do I really think Christianity was behind all those things? Not
really - Christianity was just a cover. In the same way that I
don't believe every single action of war by a Muslim country is due
to Islam.
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:49PM
lawrence, you are right.
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 7:56AM
This just illustrates the depths to which our Country has sunk,
most recently, and certainly most seriously, under barry and his
thugs, especially the racist eric holder. It also clearly
illustrates the double standard that pervades our society due
mainly to the efforts of the racist media and democratic party.
If you're Black you can essentially get away with anything in
today's legal climate. Same thing with homosexuals. This is
continually reinforced by the democrats and their willing lackies
in the media. They are the REAL racists. I'm sick and tired of them
trotting out 'slavery' whenever White libs waver in their self
destruction. African Blacks were enslaved by their OWN PEOPLE, by
members of other tribes who engaged in constant inter-tribal
warfare. The losers were either killed or enslaved. Blacks
enslaving Blacks.
Then, muslim arab slavers bought the Black slaves and re-sold
them to European slavers who were instrumental in establishing the
trans-Atlantic slave trade. Hmmm; Blacks enslaving other Blacks who
then sold their 'racial' brethren to Arab/Muslim slavers who then
sent them to the New World. Where are us evil "Racist White
Americans" in all this? Wait! We had nothing to do with it.
So, we have two 'protected classes' (ie., loved and cherished by
libs and dems) collaborating to bring slavery to North America.
Then, thousands of AMERICAN WHITES died in our Civil War to free
the slaves. Yet, We're the evil ones. Rewriting history is so much
fun.
What would the media have done if the leading Republican Senator
was an unapologetic life-long member of the KKK? But not a peep was
made over robert byrd's long history in the Klan. How about that?
Why didn't the Blacks ever wonder about that? Or about how the
dem's philosophies destroyed Black families for 50 years and
encouraged a dependency on the government that reduced them to
plantation slaves. Where is the outrage?
Answer; there is none because collectively Blacks in America
have meekly handed over their pride, abilities, and initiative to
the dems in return for being taken care of. However, what has
'being taken care of' actually meant? How about total cultural
annihilation?
So, American libs and generally ignorant voters decided it was a
Black's turn in the White House. How many Americans ever thought
that, not only were they electing a 'wannabe dictator'; but they
were essentially handing over OUR rights in a supposedly 'color
blind" society. It is NOT color blind, it is the most racist regime
in history. How many more White Americans will have to be blocked
by "White's Need Not Apply" signals when jobs are desperately
needed to keep food on the table? How many American government
workers will stay "in their place" while discovering that Whites
are the new victimized minority? (The first time the majority is
being discriminated against by the minority being driven by the
government. Hmmm...)
Discrimination is discrimination. I wonder how history will tell
the story of the death of the democratic party; the death of
freedom in America, and the rise of protected classes like Blacks,
homosexuals and muslims. One more time: Discrimination is
discrimination. Racism is racism. Both are abhorrant, but barry and
his pet AG holder are determined to rip America apart any way they
can. How much time do we have? And just how much will our citizens
put up with at the hands of a racist regime propped up by a lying
media?
The absolutely worst aspect of the whole thing is the aggressive
perpetuation of the whole "racism" guilt trip by libs and dems. It
has nothing to do with race at all. There are no such things as
human 'races'. There is one race here, it's called THE HUMAN RACE.
We're all members. Division of humans into "races" is as
scientifically bankrupt as falsifying data to 'prove' glo-bull
warming. Follow the money...and power. Aye; THAT'S the rub!
winterhawk| 2.3.11 @ 8:33AM
Very good post Mike. I could not agree with you more. The regime
currently in power has brought "racism" to the forefront again. It
has been done in criminal fashion to further their communist
agenda. The only recouse we have is at the voting booth. If we
cannot get it done there, we have a serious problem. DC could then
see what is happening in Egypt today.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:27PM
again, lies. if you're black, you can get away with anything in
today's legal climate? um, no!
isn't the prison population mostly made up of black and other
minorities? yes, it is. so tell them they got away with it....
i should call my buddies in the "lamestream" media to cite your
statements. mine too, heck. you would get chopped up in all the
fact checking. it would help the democratic base - you would be
painted as a crazy liar. you got some good points but you embellish
in places you shouldn't.
Joe| 2.3.11 @ 3:11PM
Your argument fails, logically, gilbert. Consider this
hypothetical: If blacks committed, say, 90% of the crime in the US
(and, lest you mistake me, I am NOT saying they do), and, say, 51%
of the prison population were black, it would be legitimate to say
blacks were treated less harshly (in terms of incarceration) than
whites, no? So....The mere fact that blacks constitute a majority
of the prison population (if, in fact, they do), proves nothing,
necessarily, about the relative ability of blacks and whites to
"get away" with something.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 4:50PM
scroll up. the guy said that blacks get away with anything in
this legal climate. it's not true - they get incarcerated. like
every other race.
irish19| 2.3.11 @ 12:54PM
"If you're Black you can essentially get away with anything in
today's legal climate."
The main exception to that is if you happen to be black and
conservative.
Gilbert does raise the point below that a large majority of today's
prison population is black. I suspect we can chalk at least part of
that up to liberal social programs that have destroyed the black
family over the course of nearly a half century.
irish19| 2.3.11 @ 12:55PM
Actually, Gilbert appears to have raised his point above rather
than below this post.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 12:55PM
"If you're Black you can essentially get away with anything in
today's legal climate."
Um, that statement is pretty easy to prove incorrect, you
know...
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:48PM
Mike: Is your middle name Bigot?
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 5:29PM
Monk;
Evidently you forgot to read the last paragraph of my post. Try
again...
Mimi| 2.3.11 @ 4:58PM
Mike...great post!! I would add...Holder and Co. do Black
Americans a diservice to treat them as lesser citizens, needing a
leg-up.....They are full fledged just like every-body enjoying the
Blessings of Liberty in this country. They behave as the worst of
the worst RACISTS. WE NEED to CLOSE UP SHOP at the JUSTICE DEPT.
CIVIL RIGHTS DEPT. Fire them all....We elected a !st Black
President....It's a NEW DAY!!!
VBMax| 2.3.11 @ 8:20AM
This can be neatly summed up in one sentence: The DOJ is a
criminal organization operating within a criminal organization (the
Obama administration). The question is, what can be done about
it?
Stephanie| 2.3.11 @ 9:11AM
Finding a damn good candidate for next years election would be a
good place to start.
The Republicans will not impeach obama because he is half colored,
so the ballot box is the only recourse we have.
AustinDave| 2.3.11 @ 3:15PM
End The Fed!
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 8:40AM
What I want to know is, when do the Congressional hearings on
the handling of the Black Panther case begin? Are there none
scheduled? Why not?
The reason the Congress has oversight authority is to oversee
the Executive branch's enforcement of the laws the Congress has
passed. To insure their being enforced in an honest and proper
fashion. My suspicion is that if the truth were known, that many
officials in this administration, including the AG himself, has
committed serious violations of the criminal law in this case,
including conspiracy to violate civil rights, obstruction of
justice, and even perjury. And of course, what we all want to know
- to paraphrase someone from history whose name is currently
escaping my grasp - is what did the president know, and when did he
know it. If these people have broken the law, then they should be
removed from office, prosecuted, and if convicted, punished, as any
other criminal. The start of that process though, is a
Congressional hearing.
VBMax| 2.3.11 @ 9:09AM
How does the Dept of Justice prosecute itself?
John Navratil| 2.3.11 @ 9:52AM
It doesn't, Congress does. Ask Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
when Bush dismissed sitting U.S. attorneys and was accused of using
the offices for political advantage. The howling from the left was
everywhere.
Fast-forward four years and it's "move along, nothing to see
here."
John Navratil| 2.3.11 @ 9:54AM
"What did the President know and when did he know it?" - Sen.
Howard Baker
Clint| 2.3.11 @ 9:10AM
Where's Sheriff Dupnik?
WB| 2.3.11 @ 9:22AM
He's too busy prepping himself as the 2012 Democratic National
Convention keynote speaker...
Stephanie| 2.3.11 @ 9:12AM
Isn't it Darrell Issa's job to have hearings on this mess? Damn,
that man has his hands full!
hunter| 2.3.11 @ 9:18AM
Going, going, gone the way of Zimbabwe under Robert Mugabe and
South Africa. The tail is wagging the dog, the tail can't remove
the dog,but the dog can remove the tail.
Will| 2.3.11 @ 9:20AM
Yes, when will Congressional hearings convene? Civil rights has
been such an issue for so long, that this outrage can no longer be
ignored. Whether Holder and Obama like it or not, this needs to be
addressed in a forum in which questions must be answered.
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 9:51AM
When is enough enough?
The land mark case of Brown vs. The Board of Education happened
some 57 years ago. Since then huge strides have been made is race
relations within this country. Dispite all these strides the race
card is played almost on a daily basis by liberals. The race issue
is continually at the heart of liberal commentary. The Tea Party is
rasist, Glen Beck is a rasist, don't even talk to me about Sarah
Palin. When is enough enough?
The answere is, it is never enough. Only by laying down the
smoke screen of racism can actual racism be maintained by the
liberal elite. Look for a moment at an old Southern Plantation. The
slaves worked in the fields, and the results of their labor went to
the Master. The slaves were provided with housing. The slaves were
even allowed to have a doctor come visit, if the doctor wasn't too
busy with other cases. Now apply the same to the political
realities of today. We work, and the results of our labor are taken
from us in ever increasing taxsation. We were given low income
housing loans. There came the bubble bust of of our economy. And
now we get Obamma Care, the doctor will come visit when he isn't
too busy.
When consertives object to these actions, who is labled a
rasist? Why, the consertives of course. How dare we not let a man
have a house, or a baby a doctor? But what then is the true measure
of freedom? I submit that it is gain through your own efforts,
responsibility for your own actions.
How did freedom get so turned around? It got turned around when
our society decided that race was an excuse. It got turned around
when liberals decided "fairness" trumped freedom. Freedom has never
been fair, just free.
For the DOJ, enough is never enough. The sins of the past must
be remembered and used as an excuse forever. For the liberal mind
set, freedom is the obstruction of "fairness" and fairness is the
pathway to control. How sick it is that today the educated elites
(substitute Plantation Master) are so bent on keeping the American
Public on the Plantation. For them, enough is never enough, control
is never complete.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 12:53PM
Funny you mention Brown v. Board of Education....are you aware
that in most urban areas, schools are MORE segregated than they
were 57 years ago? In Detroit, for example, 90% of the students are
black, yet the average white student goes to a school that is 2%
black. So exactly how much progress have we made again?
Truth to Power| 2.3.11 @ 2:19PM
Detroit is the progressive nirvana. It is a shell of itself and
its citizens are those that can't leave. This is the ultimate path
of progressivism. Phony promises, corruption, followed by collapse.
Never fear they can still gin up a good protest against WalMart.
This is where Obama will lead us. He and his kind (mostly white
progressives) are not sustainable.
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 2:33PM
And oddly enough, Detroit has been run by Democrats, and
frankly, by black Democrats, for how long now?
Of course, it was Democrats who OPPOSED school desegregation, so
I guess the current state of the Detroit school system is perfectly
in line with what has been the Democrat party's position on the
issue for the better part of the last century and a half.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:59PM
So you're saying that Detroit politicians should force schools
to desegregate?
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:52PM
Are you claiming thatGlen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, the
Tea Party have not uttered racist comments? Take the cotton out of
your ears.
Steve A| 2.3.11 @ 3:26PM
Go ahead & list those comments for us if you would care
to.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:35PM
Besides the fact that both of them automatically assumed that
Barack Obama was a racist without any supporting evidence, how
about these statements:
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
"You ever notice how all composite pictures of wanted criminals
look like Jesse Jackson?"
"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often
looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any
weapons. There, I said it."
Then there's referring to Obama as an "angry black guy", calling
Obama's economic program "reparations", accusing Obama of
deliberating destroying the economy because he's black and wants
payback, claiming that if Obama weren't black he'd just be a tour
guide in Hawaii, saying that "In Obama's America, the white kids
get beat up while the black kids cheer", calling Obama a "little
black man-child", claiming that Colin Powell only supported Obama
because he's black....you get the picture?
Albert| 2.3.11 @ 9:58AM
Did anyone expect actual justice and equality from Eric Holder?
Really? President Bozo and his minions were known quantities before
the election, but the American People witlessly elected these
criminals anyway. As long as the majority of voters still get their
"information" from CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC, this will continue.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:30PM
yeah, as long as the voters get their information from all the
major news networks. good one. what you don't undertsand is that
liberals look at all the news sources. whereas tea partiers and
republicans only get it from one source. don't you think that's
odd?
Albert| 2.3.11 @ 3:14PM
You comment is a little odd. It is conservatives who have given
rise to alternative media. To lump all the various sources of
information on radio and the internet as "one source" is absurd and
laughable. And in case you haven't noticed (or are unable to
notice) the major TV networks are all propaganda services for the
Democrat Party and have been for decades. This is no longer an
assertion but a proven fact. The people on these networks make
little or no effort to hide it any more. And the notion that
liberals "look at all the news sources" is ridiculous. I know too
many liberals personally, and they watch and hear only what
reinforces their narrow beliefs.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:38PM
Alternative media is rarely another source. The fast majority of
blogs and talk radio shows do no independent investigating of their
own - they just other people's stories and state their own opinion
on them. Adding more voices doesn't add any more sources if those
people are just regurgitating the same stories.
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 3:50PM
gilbert, I suspect that you and da monk both sit on the same
sofa. Not once, not once has Glen Beck or Sarah Palin uttered a
public racist remark. You may sit before the tube, and even hear
what has been said, but judging from your comments I doubt you have
listened to a single thing falling outside your own personal agenda
that has been said.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 4:52PM
i'm on this blog aren't i? i like having a broad base of
political insight and input. you should too. but you don't - too
scared to diversify or entertain ideas outside of a fear
bunker.
Albert| 2.3.11 @ 5:55PM
Horse manure. Every time we tune to the alphabet networks we get
your side. In fact we don't just "get" it we are inundated by it.
The Amspec doesn't need equal time, it IS equal time. Personally,
I've been listening to leftist horse manure for over 40 years. I
USED to tune in to the aforementioned networks for news and
information. The more I watched and listened, the more I grew to
understand that what was being sold as news was garbage. Leftist
propaganda. And it was the TRUTH that was being suppressed. Lastly,
can we dispense with the "fear bunker" nonsense?
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 7:44PM
so the majority of the american news networks are leftish
propaganda...so 90% of the american news networks are "left." why
do you think that is? weird, really. somehow the left controls the
majority of what americans watch. why is that?
don't worry, in 20 years you'll be dead and i'll be the new
conservative wondering why all these crazy young people want to
take my money to say, i dont know, something crazy that will make
me want to get my laser gun as a 2nd amendment remedy. no, i won't.
that's archaic, barbaric 20th century stuff.
welcome to the 21st century.
ok, no more fear bunker =]
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 10:40PM
What? Dude, really. Stop smoking crack and get yourself a job.
Really. It'll give you a little self esteem and maybe get you out
of your Mom's basement, I promise. You stated:
"don't worry, in 20 years you'll be dead and i'll be the new
conservative wondering why all these crazy young people want to
take my money to say, i dont know, something crazy that will make
me want to get my laser gun as a 2nd amendment remedy"
WTF??? Do you even review your posts before you put them on the
screen? Also, did you ever take English punctuation in school?
(Just sayin')... :-)
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.3.11 @ 10:30AM
I'm biased.
See, I'm an older white male.
May I mention a HUGE unintended consequence of all of the
race-baiting?
Most companies' leadership, made up of the majority, (whites), is
as it should be in the normal manner of things.
Companies used to advertise for recruits in the newspapers and
internet in more recent times.
Most of them don't any longer.
They would rather pay large fees to "recruiting firms" or
"personnel firms" who in turn, discreetly screen said job aspirants
according to attitudes.
Sullen people don't get by. Angry people don't get by. Aggrieved
people don't get by. Job-hoppers don't get by. People who have
spent a lot of time unemployed don't get by. People who demonstrate
irresponsibility in their credit history don't get by. Multiple
convictions for felonies also has a dimming effect.
See, the prospective employing company just doesn't want to face
discrimination lawsuits out their ears.
The consequence is that some fine people of color never get a
shot.
The risks are just too darned high!
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:54PM
Baloney! You're also a bigot
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 3:53PM
And another liberal tosses the race card.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:39PM
So I guess that when the article writer and most of the
commenters on this article threw out the race card, they were all
liberals too?
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 6:18PM
da monk:
You'd really better expand your vocabulary, your limits are
showing. Having actually managed a Fortune 500 Company, as has "Old
Texican", we all watch for the one fundamental thing that is always
fatal to anybody's career: The inability to get along with others;
regardless of whether they agree or not. It doesn't matter how
smart, experienced, skilled, whatever. If they can't get along,
they will not last...or advance. Now, quick; turn that into a
racist comment!
VBMax| 2.3.11 @ 10:30AM
The history of African-Americans in this country is one of the
greatest success stories in the history of the world. Descendants
of slaves become pillars of society, leaders in government,
executives of business and industry, celebrities in the arts and
entertainment, superstars in athletics etc. But the progressives
want to still paint them as victims for their own self
interest.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:31PM
legit.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:55PM
Not all Liberals. Just like not all Conservatives are closed
minded
Louis Jenkins| 2.3.11 @ 11:04AM
I guess some farm animals are more equal than others. Obama is
protecting his sublets. And will continue to do so until he is
turned out. MikeD, you've pretty much summed it up, there is no
justice in the black man's court, unless you happen to be black. If
you're white, well, your bones will be picked clean.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:58PM
And a Black person can get justice in a White court? You're
complaining about the same thing you claim Blacks do. Is it because
you have the right to complain and Blacks don't. You're
illogical
Louis Jenkins| 2.3.11 @ 5:00PM
Unfortuantely, Mr. Da Monk, the tides have turned and we're on
the stove now, and I understand Mr. Obama likes us well done. We've
got so many black action groups, so many college funds, so many
affirmative societies for blacks, and there are none for whites.
Allow a white person to do something specific, and the blacks call
them a racist. If you started one white action group, just one, how
long would it be before they would be called racist? About a split
second if I may answer. No, am not asking about a black person in a
white person's court, but the tables have turned sir.
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 5:41PM
Just play the "TURNABOUT GAME". Look at what happens in
politics, justice, the media, academia, pick it. Then, reverse it
and assume a Republican or Conservative did it. What would happen?
How would the media and the libs react if G.W. Bush hid all HIS
personal information frfom the whole Country? What would happen if
Bush had dismissed an "open & shut" case of racial harassment
in a polling place where whites threatened the blacks? It's a
simple game and not hard to play.
How about if it had been uncovered that George Bush had been in
the KKK? What would the media have done? How about if Bush were
caught in some of the lies algore has been with the whole 'global
warming' joke? Finally, what would the media have said if Bush had
been caught doing an illegal fundraiser and explained it away by
admitting it was wrong, but that it was OK because "...there was no
controlling legal authority." And; just for chuckles and grins, do
a little research and see if you can find the Democratic Party's
official campaign song for the 1868 election. (Hint: You won't
believe it.)
This editorial as usual is PURE GOLD! This issue at DOJ is IMO
only part of the much larger one that has progressively increased
throughout my lifetime regarding race. Laws were enacted to protect
African-Americans after the civil rights abuses of the 1960's and
rightfully so. Additionally, liberal Democrats [ie the Kennedys
etc] proactively used politics and their governmental positions of
power to aggressively administer same. The whole basis for same was
[or should have been] to establish EQUALITY in access and treatment
of individuals, BUT these looney liberals wouldn't [or can't stop
there]. Their preferred outcome is not equality but rather
SUPERIORITY of their preferred class. The 1954 Brown vs. Bd. of Ed.
legal case eliminated SEPERATE BUT EQUAL school seperation between
those of blacks vs. white ones. Additionally, the federal
government initiated a takeover of the public education system
[from states] and aggressively established it affirmative action
school policies, again to supposedly establish equality treatment.
What has been the eventual result of all of this? African Americans
are not only given special treatment in schools, but in life in
general. In schools, every child is provided with the SAME
teachers, classrooms, computers, books, school assignments, etc. To
repeat, THE SAME! Correspondingly, the test scores proceeding from
1954's law have produced larger and larger disparities between
blacks and whites in both reading and mathmatics. In employment,
civil rights laws have forced more and more hiring of blacks [by
any corporation holding federal contracts, which is most of them],
and the result has been the gradual degradation of business
effeciency from same. Since it is impossible for the government to
FORCE INTELLIGENCE, the eventual outcomes desired by liberals is
and forever will be impossible to obtain [absent the desire of
individual African-Americans to truly educate themselves and to
achieve success in life based upon that education]. Their success
in sports is well documented and applauded, but they traditionally
discount and discredit the education of their children as somehow
being too WHITEY, HONKIE, OR OREO like. If black children perform
well in school and learn, they are discriminated and intimidated by
other black children; consequently the traditional of black
poverty, unintelligence and dependency upon governmental welfare
continues from one generation to the next. When these black
nationalists politicians desiring and promoting black superiority
through governmental policies and laws get it through their thick
sculls that the only true achievement in life is possible by means
of and educated and self-motivated populus, then finally their
racial class of people will succeed, not be discriminated against,
and free!!!!!!!!!
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:33PM
good points!
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 5:53PM
I also find it interesting that the only Blacks acceptable to
the democrats and the media are LIBERAL Blacks. They went after
Justice Thomas and Condie Rice with blood in their eyes! These are
brilliant people who just happen to be Conservative.
Any Black leader who condemns Conservative Blacks is a hypocrite
who is condemning American Blacks to a life of inferiority because
they are reinforcing behaviors that are destructive in ANY society.
Single mothers have been glorified, and when something is praised,
we get more of it. The single biggest handicap for Black kids is to
be raised without a father. And the libs aren't just doing it to
the Blacks, they are glorifying the "Fatherless" family by praising
the single mother and excusing bad behavior by men regardless of
"race". How many feminists love to denegrate men and scream that we
are unnecessary 'sperm doners.'? Being a good father is a very
tough job.
(Remember my comment about "race". It is a 'null' concept
because there is only ONE race, the human race. All the differences
are merely subtle specialties caused by accomodating to climatic
factors over time. But I guess 'monk' didn't read that far before
he/she/it decided to throw another 'race bomb'.)
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 7:46PM
only one race, the human race. i like that way of
thinking...
i just wish you could feel the same about your fellow uninsured
americans. instead of saying "you" versus them...we're supposed to
be a family taking care of each other...
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:27PM
Mike D, you're absolutely correct in that the condemnation of
conservative blacks by liberals [who falsely proclaim the RIGHTS
agenda] exposes their LIBERAL POLITICAL AGENDA. They are FOR
something as long as it is THEIR SOMETHING. To them and their
agenda, it's correct only if it's THEIR AGENDA. It's all about
RADICAL-EXTREMIST LIBERALSIM, period!!!!
Tim the Enchanter| 2.4.11 @ 4:16PM
Mike D: "It" is correct.
irish19| 2.3.11 @ 1:04PM
"but they traditionally discount and discredit the education of
their children as somehow being too WHITEY, HONKIE, OR OREO like.
If black children perform well in school and learn, they are
discriminated and intimidated by other black children"
This is the crux of the matter. Academic performance needs to be as
lauded as athletic.
A problem is a lack of male role models and nuclear families.
Following the passage of fair housing legislation, many middle
class black families fled the inner city. What was left were the
dregs. The role models were gone, and welfare legislation provided
a disincentive for the traditional two-parent household. Small
wonder that things have gone downhill.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 3:02PM
And there are no white dregs of society in the inner city? Look
back on you Irish heritage and discover how the Irish were
discriminated. Ask your grand father about signs in store windows
looking for help with the declaration "Irish need not apply"
How quick you forget
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 5:58PM
My grandfather made sure I knew what NINA meant before my 10th
birthday. And we lived in a racially mixed area but nobody thought
a thing about it. My best friend growing up never noticed that one
of us was white and one of us was black until he got to college and
learned how bad 'whitey' was. He didn't talk to me for 25 years
until he made a tearful apology at his daughter's wedding. That's
just one of the reason that people like 'monk' and 'gilbert' who
don't know a thing about anybody here are so irritating. They'll
play the race card at the drop of a hat and have NO IDEA of the
hate behind it. I've seen more racial hypocricy in my 63 years that
both of them put together.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 7:48PM
it's b/c your rhetoric is inconsistent. one moment you want a
revolution and in another, you sort of hand in an olive branch.
love your fellow americans and let's get them insured
healthcare!
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 9:22PM
Read my posts, don't just 'skim' them looking for something to
react to. I consistently bring out the unfortunate fact that obama
and his regime have divided Americans faster and more deeply than
ANY other administration since before the Civil War. He, pelosi,
and reid are going out of their way to raise the level of rhetoric
to incitement levels.
I am pointing out that, as happened here in 1776 and 1789 in
France, and other places around the globe, the "People" do not have
an infinite patience to put up with lies, vote fraud, sneaking
votes through in the middle of the night, passing monumental laws
that weren't even read...and then laughing about it in public.
Every time obama, reid, and especially pelosi open their mouths
their arrogance pops out. Their distain for the 'little people'
drips from their lips with every word. Remember what Marie
Antoinette said: (Paraphrased because it does not directly
translate) "Let them eat cake!" That meant "Screw 'em; give them
bread and water!"
That's the attitude of obama and his party; and the media that
supports them. They're elitists and they think they're better than
the poor dumb masses. But, never in the history of the world have
the "poor dumb masses held nearly 100 million guns in their
possession. Carlos Castaneda wrote: He who forgets the mistakes of
the past are doomed to repeat them". What obama is trying to cram
down American's collective throats is not working anywhere in the
world. I have lived in England; France, Australia, Japan,
Singapore, The Netherlands, and Switzerland. I've worked in 78
countries and still have close friends in every one. I even have a
post graduate degree from Cal Berkeley, of all places. What obama
and the dems are trying to jam through has not worked anywhere it
has been tried! That is the truth. And, remember the definition of
insanity: Doing the same thing over and over even though it didn't
work; expecting a different outcome.
I'm tired of arguing. At least you haven't gotten foul and
filthy like the others below who decided to hijack the site and
demonstrate their abject stupidity for all to see. They forget that
every time a computer is used on line it leaves a trail. I wonder
if they know that? Good night.
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 10:52PM
Mike, excellent post. Thank you.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:34PM
Irish19, you're absolutely correct! Public education could be
remedied in a relative short period of time IF it was returned back
to the states [and taken from the federal government and the
teachers' unions], if attendance/support by parents/relatives was
economically tied to the governmental welfare assistance of same,
if qualified/professional/dedicated teachers' salaries were
doubled/tripled and correspondingly incompetitent teachers were
fired, and if progression of children from grade to grade were
dependent upon their testing. If these things were accompolished,
there would be very little/no disparity between black and whites,
and children would become truly educated enough to go forth into
the world and financially support themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
big bob| 2.3.11 @ 11:19AM
This case is exactly why I am flying into TX to attend the "True
to Vote" summit in March that will teach citizens how to secure the
election process on the day of elections. It is being run by J.
Christian Adams and will focus on powers allotted to citizens by
the constitution when the government refuses to do its job. This is
especially prescient given the recent dismissal of the Black
Panther case by the DOJ. I live in East Pa and I intend to gather
as much information as I can. I will not sit through another
ridiculous election without doing everything I can to halt this
undermining of our country.
Jared| 2.3.11 @ 11:26AM
Crackers don't deserve no protection.My man Obama is just giving
the brothers justice long overdue, which is what the justice
departmint is supposed to so, right? it's about time!
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 7:49PM
that kind of talk is not cool. stop it.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:36PM
As Forrest said, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES [SAYS]!!!!!!!!!
Tim the Enchanter| 2.4.11 @ 4:19PM
Are you the guy in the Subway commercials?
David W| 2.3.11 @ 11:52AM
Subpoena first. If failure to comply, them cite for contempt. If
failure to act, then defund the department. Then begin impeachment
procedings against the officials, including Holder.
scythe| 2.3.11 @ 11:56AM
"The notion that civil rights laws apply to all citizens, and
are not on the books merely to protect minority groups or to pursue
white racists, is an anathema to the liberal civil rights
establishment and their sympathetic partners in the Justice
Department." Like no one saw this coming, right? In this
administration, it just became too obvious to ignore. But over the
last few decades, since these laws were enacted, it was obvious to
many that their application was tendentious. The same goes for any
other "protected minority" which includes everyone but straight
white men. Eric Holder actually did us a favor. He let the cat
(panther) out of the bag and the rest of us who have asserted the
perversion of these laws have now been vindicated. Along the same
lines as many of us who have asserted that America has been under
the malignant influence of cultural Marxism since the 1960's. In
fact the perversion of the Civil Right Laws IS a Marxist strategy.
They are inextricably intertwined.
Doctor Right| 2.3.11 @ 12:06PM
Mr. Holder would be wise to understand that if whites are not
protected by the law, then neither are we bound by it.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 12:50PM
"if whites are not protected by the law, then neither are we
bound by it".....
Wow....just wow.
scythe| 2.3.11 @ 1:47PM
A "law" for some and not for all is not longer a "law". It is
tyranny.
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 10:08AM
People who say "Wow...just wow" have no idea how contrived and
cliched they see, do they?
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:41PM
Doctor, analyze your first statement with that mindset and then
get back to me.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 3:03PM
I think you made a mistake: Your'e name is Dr. Wrong. And I ask
you Dr. Wrong are you preaching for a race war?.
scythe| 2.3.11 @ 6:22PM
To comment on the overtly racist actions of those in government
by a private citizen will not be the gasoline on the flames. When a
government blatantly treats its citizens in such a flagrantly
bigoted manner, then it is THEY who light the match. Why are YOU
trying to deflect attention and blame from those at fault? Why did
YOU mention it at all? Playing the RACE CARD? Or are you just
congenitally illogical or nefarious of purpose? The commentator
simply comments. He is NOT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. Or hadn't you
noticed?
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 10:55PM
I vote for "congenitally illogical". Or stupid.
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 10:11AM
Not at all. What a stupid assertion.
Those in government who are overtly treating one group (race)
differently than others are the ones fanning the flames of racial
discontent.
But you probably like those folks, don't you, "da monk"?
REAL Americans have had enough of the left's bullcrap. The Left
doesn't seem to understand the first law of physics: What goes
around comes around.
It's comin' round.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:38PM
The solution is not what you suggest, but rather through what's
known as POLITICAL ELECTIONS!!!!!!!!!
bobmontgomery| 2.3.11 @ 12:23PM
Thanks again, Quin, to you and a small 'band of brothers' doing
te work that needs to be done, for a pittance, compared to the $10
and $20 million dollar " self-absorbed 'wonder babies' in the
MSM.
Would Quin Hillyer please explain why he makes no mention of the
fact that the decision to not pursue criminal charges was made by
the previous administration?
The decision was made on Jan. 7, 2009, which means it was the
GWBush administration that made the decision.
Four months later the Obama administration (actually a career
DoJ lawyer) decided to drop the civil complaint because there was
no one who said they were intimidated.
Can Mr. Hillyer name anyone who says they were intimidated? It
would be impossible to pursue a cilil case if there are no
complainants. So are there any or is there any evidence people made
and then withdrew complaints?
If there are such witnesses that would be an important story. So
are there any people who say they were intimidated, Mr.
Hillyer?
big bob| 2.3.11 @ 12:36PM
Mr. Johnston
Your version is quite contradictory to sworn testimony before the
Civil Rights Commission. I'd like to see how you arrive at your
facts and the timetable for those "facts"....
wrong sworn testimony. Perez is a White House lapdog, along with
Holder, et al. I am talking about Adams and Coates. They both
directly contradicted Perez's testimony. Coates especially was
untethered in his description of Holder's and Obama's intention to
ignore equal prosecution under DOJ's directives. Nice try. I'm sure
you can find the transcript of those meetings...right?
big bob| 2.5.11 @ 11:23AM
No response? Cat got your tongue? Or do you only cherry pick the
stuff that supports your leftist posturing, all the while trying to
maintain this erudite pseudo intellectual image? Give me a
break.
bobmontgomery| 2.3.11 @ 1:34PM
First of all, we are not trying the Bush administration's
handling of the criminal case. We are trying the Obama
administration's handling of the civil case. That is why Hillyer
didn't mention it. Do you understand that? Secondly, there were
people who were intimidated, whether they filed formal complaints
or not, because credible witnesses saw people approach the polls
and leave. But it is irrelevant whether they filed complaints and
it is not impossible to pursue a case if there are no complainants.
You want to know why? BECAUSE THE CASE WAS PURSUED AND IT WAS WON
IN COURT, YOU DUNDERHEAD. We are discussing the political decision
to drop the case after it had already been won and to not pursue
sanctions beyond keeping King Samir Shabazz's billy club (not King
himself) away from only one polling place for one election cycle,
you dingbat.
Following that, and preceeding mightily from that, we are
discussing the subsequent revelations about internal handling and
political interference with civil rights cases, specifically voting
rights cases, in the Voting Rights Section of the Civil Rights
Division at DOJ and the expert testimony of people who were there.
Do you understand THAT, you ignoramus?
@bobmontgomery, I asked questions and you resort to juvenile ad
hominem attacks,. How about sticking to the issues.
If there was intimidation that is a serious matter. But the
transcript of the May hearing leaves significant doubt about the
evidence -- note that doubt is a conditional, not a conclusional,
word.
I have looked for a record with the names of witnesses and their
testimony and frankly have not found it. Perhaps I erred in the
search design.
So I would appreciate a link that shows what th witnesses
said.
BTW, nothing in the transcript suggests anything was won in
court after an adversarial proceeding -- you will see that the
defendants did not respond, suggesting a default order.
So, if you have any hard facts, please identify the witnesses
who actually saw the asserted intimidation; a URL would be a
sufficient.
bobmontgomery| 2.3.11 @ 2:08PM
Bartle Bull. Shut up.
bobmontgomery| 2.3.11 @ 2:20PM
And don't come here blathering about the Bush administration and
tell me to stick to the issues. You can find another use for your
'URL's. Here are your references:Peter Kirsanow, Hans von
Spakovsky, J Christian Adams, Christopher Coates. There are many
more. you can find them at US Commission on Civil Rights, you
left-wing lackey.
@bobmongomery, yeah people who write in favor of competitive
markets, and against socialist redistribution systems, are lefty
lackies. You are rich with anger, poor on knowledge.
I have read some of the sources you cite and do not see ANY
names of witnesses or of people who say they were intimidated. None
are named in the transcript of the Civil Rights commission
hearing.
Empirical evidence is what I asked for, but you obviously have
none, just second hand accounts that also lack hard facts and
specifics.
If and when you, or Mr. Hillyer, can produce hard facts -- names
and statements by those intimidated or witnesses to the events -- I
remain interested in reading what they said because I am interested
in learning the facts of what transpired.
VBMax| 2.3.11 @ 3:03PM
From: House Judiciary Committee Rejects Voter Intimidation
Inquiry by Connie Hair 1/15/2010
"Bartle Bull submitted an affidavit in U.S. v. New Black Panther
Party for Self-Defense, et al submitted into the record at the
Judiciary Committee markup. Bull was an attorney poll observer in
Philadelphia on November 4, 2008. In the mid-1960s, Bull
participated in civil rights lawsuits against municipalities in
Mississippi and worked closely with Charles Evers to help defend
the voting rights of African-Americans in Mississippi. He served as
campaign manager in New York for both the Robert F. Kennedy and
Jimmy Carter presidential campaigns. He is man well versed in
proper voting procedures and hardly a right-wing partisan.
In the affidavit, Bull stated, “Their clear purpose and intent
was to intimidate voters with whom they did not agree. Their views
were, in part, made apparent by the uniform of the organization the
two men wore and the racially-charged statements they made. For
example, I heard the shorter man make a statement directed toward
white poll observers that, ‘you are about to be ruled by a black
man, cracker.’ To me, the presence and behavior of the two
uniformed men was an outrageous affront to American democracy and
the rights of voters to participate in elections without fear. It
would qualify as the most blatant form of voter intimidation I have
encountered in my life in political campaigns in many states, even
going back to the work I did in Mississippi in the 1960s.”
@VBMax, Thanks, I have no located and read the entire affidavit,
which makes a clear case, leaving unanswered only the question of
whether Mr. Bull called the police.
DoJ, during the previous administration, obtained an order barring
such activities in the future.
Tim the Enchanter| 2.4.11 @ 4:24PM
DCJ: those were not juvenile ad hominem attacks. They were
MATURE ad hominem attacks. Please show more discretion and
understanding.
big bob| 2.15.11 @ 7:20AM
Hey genius, you never responded to my directive to read Coates
and/or Adams. Your boy Perez is going to lie through his teeth
today in congressional testimony, (under oath!!). And your homeboys
have disbanded the Civil Rights sub-committee investigating the New
Black Panther case. One of the hirelings voting to disband is
Roberta Achtenberg...one of the main players behind the scenes of
the FannieMae and Freddie Mac fiasco in the 90s. Yeah, you can pick
'em.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:43PM
Any MORON should be [but obviously not] able to view the
numerous videos and audios of these incidents in Philadelphia, etc
and with a fair degree of COMMON SENSE realize the fact that
intimidation and discrimination occurred. Furthermore, any IMBICILE
unable to do so can also read the tons of written material
available that factually describes the blatant and obvious
discrimination existing within the DOJ [but if one cannot read,
then no doubt this is impossible]!!!!!
Ralph Novy| 2.3.11 @ 12:32PM
This verbose, hysterical, factually challenged article
demonstrates perfectly why the "Black Panther Case" does NOT matter
-- except to race-baiters.
Disgraceful.
big bob| 2.3.11 @ 12:37PM
And you "know" this how, again?
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 12:49PM
Wow, you put a black man in the presidency and suddenly no one
can pull the race card like a conservative. Do we really need to
listen to six more years of this stuff?
scythe| 2.3.11 @ 1:45PM
Like the lefties always say... we are simply REACTING. To what
they started. Should we do nothing? Be stomped upon? Would that
satisfy you? Noticed you circular logic. Go back to the drawing
board and learn how to THINK. Because the rest of those who do,
know you even YOU are playing the race card. By accusing others of
doing so.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 11:04PM
"YOU are playing the race card. By accusing others of doing
so."
Wait, did you just accuse me of playing the race card? That
means that YOU are playing the race card. By accusing others of
doing so.
And isn't the whole article accusing the Obama administration of
playing the race card? So by your logic aren't they the ones
playing the race card in the first place? Which is....exactly what
I claimed they were doing.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:48PM
PLAYING THE RACE CARD [and labeling others as RACISTS] is
STUPID, which no doubt you've been called before!!!!!!!!!
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:44PM
So the original article writer and all the commenters who "play
the race card" or "label others as racist" are stupid too?
Since Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh both called the president
racist, are they stupid too?
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:46PM
Don't fret Jonathan, it'll all end in November of 2012, which is
less than two years from now [if you can count]!!!!!!!!
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:47PM
Unlikely....his approval rating is 10% points higher than Reagan
or Clinton at this stage in their presidencies, half of those who
disapprove can't wrap their heads around the fact that he's a
Christian or that he was born in Hawaii, and the candidates the
opposition is putting up so far are reasonably hilarious. Six more
years is looking pretty likely.
Janice Fortin | 2.3.11 @ 12:59PM
Are you sure obama and holder are not members of the New Black
Panther Party? Odd that suddenly criminals are A-OK in USA.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 3:11PM
Janice: Are you a member of the White Citizens Council?
Xeranar| 2.3.11 @ 1:56PM
This is a pathetic joke played on gullible racists. I love
reading this dribble because it lets me remember why I am firmly in
support of the leftist movement. Right-wing hatemongers and the
lies are a necessary part of keeping up the corporatist charade
just long enough to milk this country dry.
There is no "new black panther party" it was two guys paid to
stand there by republicans to be filmed. Now it is an extended
story floating around your media circle to stir up racist feelings.
The KKK is very real though and the "tea party patriots" who
intimidated black and Hispanic people in Texas actually were
arrested. So shouldn't you be worrying about them first?
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 11:04PM
Really? "it was two guys paid to stand there by republicans to
be filmed." Really? BS!!!
Well X, sorry to tell you....but there is NO evidence NOR proof
of ANY tea party intimidation of "black and Hispanic" people
anywhere. Please SHOW PROOF of such intimidation and I might listen
to your blather. Otherwise, I call you a liar. If you prove me
wrong, I will apologize to you in a public square.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:54PM
Really, DUMBARS? Check out the following from an authoritive
source:
New Black Panther Party
Chairperson Malik Zulu Shabazz
Founded 1989, Dallas, Texas, by Aaron Michaels
Headquarters Dallas, Texas
Ideology Black nationalism, Pan-Africanism, Black supremacy, Racial
antisemitism,[1] Anti-capitalism, Anti-Zionism,
Anti-imperialism
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 6:06PM
I hope you all realize that every posting can be traced and
those who posted the foul mouthed incitements above will be
identified and banned from the site. That will be the least of
their worries. It has become quite evident that the imposters come
out from under their rocks when the words get too long and the
discussion too involved for pin heads to follow.
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 4:04PM
Reading through most of these comments it is easy to come to a
conclusion. When rational thought and argument displace liberal
ideas, the blog sinks into a morass of name calling and profanity.
Reading carefully I discover that the consertive view point is
expressed (mostly) with reasoned argument. The rebutal from the
left (not all but enough) sinks to "mandingo meat that will put my
loser piece of - - - " If anything proves to me that liberals can
not accept rational argument, and actually fear it, it is this
blog.
Willy| 2.3.11 @ 4:34PM
What a well reasoned, cogent analysis of the issue. I don't want
to breath the same air as you.
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 4:38PM
I rest my case.
Marc Jeric| 2.3.11 @ 4:55PM
Holder is communist racist - I can predict every future action
by him on that basis. There is talk about the whites turning racist
in their critique of Obama (as I call him - it's Abu Hussein
al-Mombassa); but when I read how the blacks voted for him 95%+ my
conclusion is that it is the blacks who are racists.
Jonathan| 2.10.11 @ 2:03PM
Here's an easy disproof of your theory:
Nearly all of the Black people who voted for Obama had voted for
White candidates before. It was only this time around that they
voted for a Black candidate - in many previous elections those same
Black voters are pulling the lever for White candidates.
Many of the White people who didn't vote for Obama have NEVER
voted for a Black candidate before. Year after year, election after
election, a large percentage of White voters have pulled the lever
for a fellow White... every. single. time.
So if you're going by pure percentages, who's racist now? Those
Black voters who vote for White candidates all the time or those
White voters who have never voted for a Black candidate in their
life?
DANSHANTEAL| 2.3.11 @ 5:12PM
ERIC HOLDER CALLED US ALL COWARDS. HE HAS A BEEF TO PICK WITH
WHITE AMERICA.
WELL, SO BE IT. BUT THE WHITE GOD IN HEAVEN HAS A BONE TO PICK WITH
HIM.
martin j smith| 2.3.11 @ 6:24PM
This case relating to the Black Panther Party and election Fraud
via intimidation is one of many elements that characterize the
Obama Regime. It is essentially lawless,authoritarian, and based on
Marxist ideology and Leninist Methodology. He i9gnores our courts
if their decisions if the decisions go against him look at the4
recent rulings on Obama Care and the EPA. He lines up with radical
Islamic Movements and leaders--Muslim BrotherHood in Egypt for
example. He trashes democratic Countries and destroys our
alliances. Come on.... There should no surprise that Obama is
behind the actions of our DOunJ.
Finally when will I see writers stop being shocked or surprised a
that the MSM overlooks what we believe are really bad behaviors by
Obama and his fine feathered friends. Obama =the MSM and vis
versa.
rascalofearth| 2.3.11 @ 7:43PM
why do all the comments reflect a hatred of American laws? and
oh by the way i am saddened to hear you believe is fox news, the
number one news network, is not part of the mainstream of
America
Dan| 2.3.11 @ 6:55PM
All talk and no action. Enough time has passed that some actual
action should have taken place against Holder and others in his
Justice department. Must we wait until 2012 and hope that Obama is
defeated so Holder goes ?
A.C.Guard| 2.3.11 @ 7:07PM
One look at this case and it is easy to recognize our
contitutional rights have been abridged by a communist dictator and
his minions. All the while the legislative branch of our government
is splintered with each party looking for power and neither careing
abour the country, the constitution or it's people and the Justice
department has become an arm of the oppressor. Must we take to the
streets as is being done in Egypt? Waiting for 2012 in hope of
defeating this illegal regime seems too long a time
rascalofearth| 2.3.11 @ 7:40PM
yes a dictator....elected by more votes than any other person in
US history. reality calling....please come back to us... or is
massive bloodshed and anarchy really your preference to our laws
and elections. btw, i believe the last gop President repealed the
great writ from the 13th century...a far more moderate approach
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 8:07PM
that is what i have been trying to point out! the people here
want to take up arms and start a revolution with a 21st century
power. ridiculous!
rascalofearth| 2.3.11 @ 7:37PM
of course the focus must be on the doj because as the
commentator says the underlying event is trivial. allow me to add
insignificant and not worth the investigative efforts of the doj.
but oh as a political scare tactic...priceless
joe| 2.3.11 @ 8:14PM
no justice, no peace
somnolence| 2.3.11 @ 9:00PM
All of this might have been avoided had the GOP hired some
moonlighting mob enforcers for the right amount of money or some
WWF combatants to dislocate shoulders and knees for dramatic
effect. They might keep this tactic in reserve in case there are
similar methods employed by the Obama legions the next time around.
I'm sure there might be a lot of fury left over for Holder in said
circles since his media spotlight of rounding up mob bosses fairly
recently.
somnolence| 2.3.11 @ 9:00PM
All of this might have been avoided had the GOP hired some
moonlighting mob enforcers for the right amount of money or some
WWF combatants to dislocate shoulders and knees for dramatic
effect. They might keep this tactic in reserve in case there are
similar methods employed by the Obama legions the next time around.
I'm sure there might be a lot of fury left over for Holder in said
circles since his media spotlight of rounding up mob bosses fairly
recently.
Horace| 2.3.11 @ 9:11PM
One of the greatest victories of the past 80 years is left's
ability to completely turn the political table on the right. As
Jonah Goldberg describes in his book, "Progressive Fascism",
virtually every revolutionary movement of the past century, be it
the communist revolution of 1917, the Nazi's in the thirties or the
Fascists in the twenties, was conducted by leftists of a different
flavor. All of them advocated change for the betterment of the
peoples they ostensibly represented. Goldberg shows us that it is
only in the latter part in the 20th century that communism became a
pejorative in the modern lexicon. Nazism was actually popular with
progressives from all parts of the world, as was Fascism. It was
only when they became openly tyrannical and promoted expansionism
through war that they were vilified. The left has successfully put
the mark of cain on the right in their characterization of Nazism
and Fascism as rightest. Jonah Goldberg proves this false. And
progressives, in the form of Democrats have successfully smeared
the Republicans in the same way, with respect to the politics of
race. Once the champions of segregation, the sea change of the late
fifties and sixties with respect to racial equality once again
caused the chameleon to change his colors. Just as Harry Reid
proved the opportunist in his sudden change of hear from complete
opposition to illegal immigration to one of a champion for amnesty,
after recognizing the demographics of an expanding Hispanic
population, the Democrats have proven wonderfully adaptive to their
political environments.
MattZ| 2.3.11 @ 9:20PM
"Attorney General Eric Holder and his minions, along with some
of their slavish apologists in the media, are deliberately
trafficking in lies of great note. They prevaricate with great
enthusiasm, and they excuse lawlessness with fierce disdain. They
-- both the Department of Justice (DOJ) officials and their leftist
amanuenses pretending to be journalists -- brazenly ignore the
public's right to information, and intentionally distract attention
from relevant facts and from their own deep beliefs."
Sorry, this first paragraph reads like a self-parody on bad and
biased polemics. There is meat to the New Black Panther Party
"story," and disproportionate rage against a rather moderate
president will not make it so. Sorry, this verges on paranoia and
madness.
MZ
somnolence| 2.3.11 @ 9:50PM
I hope that Mr. Holder and the entire DOJ realize that the
federal judge in Florida has the authority to levy fines and impose
jail time if his ruling on the health care imposition is blatantly
disregarded. Dennis Durbin should also realize that the judge
doesn't have to apply an injunction in order to enforce the ruling.
I'm so glad that I have Judge Robert Bork's The Tempting Of America
in my library as a reference to go back to time and time again.
ironhorzmn| 2.4.11 @ 2:44AM
The problem is worse than mere nonfeasance in the cases of white
victims.
Holder or his political hacks proactively intervened to REVERSE
the final judgment in the Black Panther voter intimidation
case.
When leftist hacks go out of their way to protect and defend
black racist intimidation by members of a black racist organization
they're no better than the low-rent punks they're running
interference for.
JC| 2.4.11 @ 10:25AM
Lets just spread a little sunshine and take a look at the
allocations and be done with it or not depending on what is found.
No, we want to call each other names and stay divided; makes no
sense to me. Upon looking at these allocations it appears rational
citizens want and explanation of why persons could stand in front
of a voting station with "clubs" and go unchallenged; they are on
the record/tape/camera AND so are several of the same party
challenging them. Politicians WORK FOR US and we choose to let them
think they are our boss by in fighting just because we have
different point s of view. Why?
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:25PM
False comparision. Christian theology does not call for
worldwide world with the subjagation or death of others. islam
does.
WAKE UP| 2.5.11 @ 10:33PM
One day Holder will be the one in the dock.
NoNotAgain| 2.8.11 @ 1:45AM
Please B HONEST. I have a problem with your 2) dragged its feet
for 16 months on a rather simple internal investigation-LOL your
joking rite? Bush Jr outed a CIA operative, lied us into war yet
Scooter is the only one to get pardoned jail time. BTW what role
did Bush Jr play didnt he drop the charges however someone was
charged in that case. But why didnt the ppl frightened file a civil
lawsuit? Imagine how ppl felt getting biten by dogs hit by
billyclubs and you complain about a person standing in front of a
building. Reverse intimidation wo the terror and violence still
doesnt look pretty huh? Silly whiney fake Christian Americans. Get
over yourself. Look at this mess your folks have caused thinking
only of self and your false superiority complex.
Abu Nudnik| 2.8.11 @ 2:03PM
Crimes are the work of police and criminal courts, not civil
courts. A rape victim doesn't have to file a civil suit to furnish
proof of a rape nor would such a filing constitute evidence; police
may not decide whether or not they will investigate and bring that
victim's rapist to justice. The DOJ similarly has no legal
authority to decide whether or not to charge criminals: it's their
job.
Abu Nudnik| 2.8.11 @ 1:44PM
Absolutely correct! If blacks have only 20% of the population,
that's not fair. They should be given 5 votes for every white
person for there to be true equality. That's where affirmative
action thinking leads. And it's where the DOJ is headed in its
policies.
Affirmative action in government has a similar effect to
affirmative action in city-county-state-and federal positions that
require specific qualifications. When the jobs are filled based on
skin color, the integrity of the job suffers. Like the attorney
general ignoring the thousands of election fraud compliant
surfacing in the 2008 presidential elections, has led us into the
most negative political climate for more than 70 years.
While pages of abnormal legislation could be listed---just the
one---committing sodomy on the US Military exposes a government no
longer fit to serve our nation, and the sooner it is removed the
better chances we have of survival
These conclusions arise from the accumulated weight of evidence
in what should be a broadening scandal emanating from the infamous
New Black Panther Party voter-intimidation case
Mike, what do you think happened to all those racist Southern
Democrats? 95% of them became racist Southern Republicans. When the
South switched from faithfully Democratic to faithfully Republican,
what did you think happened?
Robbins Mitchell| 2.3.11 @ 6:36AM
Sounds like a ghetto circle jerk to me
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:13PM
halliburton. oil. iraq. contracts.
all in power get the "hook up."
Poppakap| 2.3.11 @ 1:27PM
What a sleazy, troll-like obfuscation of the issue at hand. Since Obama's cronies exhibit blatant racist views and practices, we must ignore them because the Iraq War was all about the oil!
Sorry troll, America doesn't believe the lie anymore. Stick to the issue and facts at hand, and take something to help with your Bush Derangement Syndrome.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 4:47PM
all i'm saying is that politicians are corrupt like this. both GOP and democrats. what else would you expect?
Horace| 2.3.11 @ 8:26PM
That some politicians of both parties are corrupt doesn't invalidate the writer's argument. Other than expressing an irrelevant argument, what is your motive in writing? This scandal has far more implications than Watergate. This has to do with corruption in the very law enforcement agency that enforces our Constitution. Without confidence in the justice system we are lost as a nation of laws.
upsidedown| 2.4.11 @ 1:50PM
Halliburton???? Give me a Fvcken Break? Go back to the Sand Niger's you work for!
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:03PM
I hope your mama's proud of you.
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 12:17AM
I think these bubbas are secretly saying "whites are prettier, and our kin will rule the world"
But not forever! I guarantee you will lose someday. The world will not be yours.
Gunner Asch| 2.4.11 @ 4:15AM
Mr Brooks, That comment is just plain ol' silly. I don't really know what's sadder, the possibility that you might not know it or the possibility that you do and just don't care.
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:40PM
i wonder where the hell the fbi is on this.
Brian Mc| 2.3.11 @ 6:37AM
I wonder what would happen if I went to the polls and was confronted and intimidated by another who happened to have the same skin tone as myself. I suppose this would be no big deal since it was not a question of race...
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 12:19AM
"This scandal has far more implications than Watergate."
What?? the most untrue statement at AS today. Horace the congenital LIAR.
Alan Brooks| 2.4.11 @ 12:21AM
"This scandal has far more implications than Watergate."
You think ANYONE here (or anywhere else)would fall for this??
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:41PM
after the ahole was taken away by ambulance nothing would happen.
Melvin| 2.3.11 @ 7:36AM
Robbins Mitchell that pretty much sums it up. A person would have thought that we as a society kind of advance a little bit since reconstruction. But Oh no every single day, every single hour, every single minute, and every single second we are constantly brow beat on how Black Amerians are still held down by the, "Man" The man being angry white homophobic, racist, bigoted males.
Every suck ass group out there blames white males for their miserable pathetic lives that they live. Do these groups look in the mirror and ask themselves. "Am I responsible for me, should I hold my myself more accountable for my lot in life?" No, they take the easy way out and blame the white guy.
And the last thing I would expect is the DOJ and the Nation's AG falling into that same old B.S."We must correct all the injustices that have befallen the Black man, and if that means persecuting another group of Americans so be it, the ends justify the means, What ever it takes.
I would like to ask Eric Holder. "How long are you going to blame me for everything in Black Americans Lives? Is it opened ended to where I will never have relief from your wrath or is there an expiration date that will be legislated by the Black Caucus's on Capitol Hill?"
Every time a member of the Black Congressional Caucus gets in-front of a microphone they always utter this phrase. "We still have a long way to go." Whaddaya mean we have still have a long way to go? Has there not been any progress made between Blacks and Whites. Have we not advanced to the betterment of our American Culture?
This is not just regulated to the Black Americans, now it seems that every group wants their turn on chewing on the White guys ass. Womens groups, Hispanics, Homosexuals, and even those groups that have recently immigrated to this Country are jumping on the bandwagon. "Whaddaya mean it's my fault you just got here."
Me I treat others exactly like I want to be treated. I Have been married to a woman who is not of my color for darn near 28 years, so that age old argument won't wash with me.
We are a Nation that has prided itself on being governed by the rule of law. Eric Holder knows full well that justice needs to be color blind for us to thrive as a society. But then again leave it to the Liberals, and Progressives to even screw that up, and they call themselves educated.
A more fitting description should be. Liberals, and Progressives don't know their own ass from a hole in the ground.
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 8:02AM
MELVIN;
You said it perfectly. We're all the same color under the skin: pink! I think it's time for the formation of a WHITE CONGRESSIONAL CAUCUS. Actually, I think it's time for whites to establish mirror organizations to EVERY discriminatory thing the Blacks and their lib buddies have started. How about the "AMERICAN WHITE COLLEGE FUND? How about "WHITE PRIDE MONTH"?
Then we'll get to watch the sputtering, foaming at the mouth, screaming and wailing by the dems, libs, and media morons. How long will it take these people to realize that we've had enough and won't take it any more?
Stephanie| 2.3.11 @ 9:05AM
They, the progressives, don't care if we don't like their governing by racebaiting. They keep us divided so they can control us.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 1:03PM
Uh, Stephanie, I'm looking at the article and the comments and it really doesn't look like the progressives are the ones racebaiting. Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh took up the racebaiting mantle sometime around 2008 and the rest of the far-right fringe has followed their lead.
Poppakap| 2.3.11 @ 1:36PM
Oh really J-boy? How about some evidence? Can you provide any that isn't produced by Keith Olbermann? Huffington Post? Instead of hurling brainless soundbites, try engaging in honest debate about the issue at hand. Since you can't defend the racist actions of the Obama DOJ or refute the facts presented in the article you have to deflect and obfuscate.
Congrats on the $5 you just earned from your Soros-backed masters for posting on a conservative site. Job well done. You're doing a bang-up job of changing hearts and minds.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:47PM
Wow, crazy person on hand. I know about the racebaiting drivel of beck and limbaugh by...wait for it....listening to beck and limbaugh! I never listen to Olbermann, rarely read the huffington post, and if Soros is paying $5/comment for this then I'll do it all day.
Why would I need to provide any proof of racebaiting from random liberal sites when all the proof I need is on the very article and comments that I'm commenting on?
Melvin| 2.3.11 @ 2:20PM
Mindless Liberal, Progressive drivel. Go home son your out of your league.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:48PM
So I'm the one just posting soundbites? lol
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 9:44PM
Jon,
You're obviously a mindless troll who has never listened to either Beck or Limbaugh. NEVER once have I heard them say anything even MILDLY racist, or I would have shut them off in a heartbeat.
Either produce some proof, or go away. Idiot.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:50PM
If you can't tell it's racist, that says a lot about your own mindset.
Tim the Enchanter| 2.4.11 @ 3:55PM
What color is Bo Snerdley, Rush's call screener?
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:09PM
Let me guess....Rush hired a Black guy, has him make most of the mocking comments on the show about black people, and uses that as cover if someone accuses him of racism. Really, do you seriously fall for this stuff?
The mother of several of Thomas Jefferson's children was black, and that didn't stop him from enslaving a few dozen black people. Strom Thurmond's first lover was Black, and that didn't stop him from running for president on a segregation platform. But you think that Rush hiring a Black guy somehow means that he's never made a racist statement?
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:06PM
If you see racism where there is none, that says something about your character.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:16PM
Hmmmm....so when Rush Limbaugh says that "Obama is the greatest living example of a reverse racist, and now he's appointed one," does that say something about Rush's character? Or how about when he speaks of "A white, racist leadership of the Democrat party trying to ace out Clyburn." Or how about when Glenn Beck called Obama a racist?
Oh, it's only a character defect when people on the other side make accusations of racism, right?
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:43PM
you seem to lack critical analysis skills jonathan.
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:05PM
Hmmm...strange. I keep hearing that and then I turn on the shows, and I don't hear anything that remotely suggests it. I've noticed that many leftists go with stereotypes, the most famous being the ignorant, redneck, racist, Christian conservative. Now it seems they pass stereypes of Beck, Fox News, etc. around and go by them rather than simply listening to hear the truth.
I often hear the accusation of "intellectual laziness" aimed toward conservatives. To believe what Daily Kos says about Beck instead of listening to the show is a pure example of this.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:30PM
Besides the fact that both of them automatically assumed that Barack Obama was a racist without any supporting evidence, how about these statements:
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
"You ever notice how all composite pictures of wanted criminals look like Jesse Jackson?"
"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."
Then there's referring to Obama as an "angry black guy", calling Obama's economic program "reparations", accusing Obama of deliberating destroying the economy because he's black and wants payback, claiming that if Obama weren't black he'd just be a tour guide in Hawaii, saying that "In Obama's America, the white kids get beat up while the black kids cheer", calling Obama a "little black man-child", claiming that Colin Powell only supported Obama because he's black....you get the picture?
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:22PM
yeah, mike. please spearhead that effort. go right ahead. i'd like to see how far you get dr. laura. i mean, seriously. go ahead. i'd love to see you try. you won't even try - you know it'll fail miserably.
but you won't. you're just going to call me names and talk about the 1700 or 1800's again. we are in the 21st century. hello?!?! you want to set us back to the stone ages - it's 2011, sir.
god as my witness, i am going make sure i put your archaic, violent, unrealistic and outdated rhetoric in check.
Poppakap| 2.3.11 @ 1:43PM
With God as your witness? Really Gil? Do you know what that phrase means? Do you regularly consult with the Divine? Do you actually ask for His guidance in ensuring your life is holy? Do you have enough spiritual maturity to understand that invoking His name in an attempt to give gravity to your ugliness is not only ironic but blasphemous? Didn't think so.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:38PM
Poppakap: Which God? Thor? Zeuss?Aphrodite?, Tiki? Vishna? Old Testament God? New Testament God? Allah? (Heaven forbid!) Elohim? Tenrikyo? etc. My point? Not all people pray to "your" God and they have faith too.
Joe| 2.3.11 @ 2:57PM
Umm....I truly wouldn't want to strain your reasoning capacities overmuch, Mr. Monk, but...logically, wouldn't it be the "God" that gilbert called on to witness? Shouldn't you be asking *him* which God he meant? Not overly complicated, I'd have thought.
Mark| 2.3.11 @ 4:12PM
Aw, geez, da monk! Not again with the "Which God? Thor? Zeuss? blah, blah, blah..." I have a great idea. How 'bout sharing something original with us.
upsidedown| 2.4.11 @ 1:55PM
God, is God! Make's no difference in the Name of the "Holy" one!
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:07PM
Now THIS is a stereotypical answer.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 4:54PM
whether i believe in god or not does not matter. what is supposed to be true is that he sees ALL. no matter if i believe or not.
he'll be my witness no matter what.
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:45PM
gil, too bad that wasn't satire.
Jon| 2.3.11 @ 12:38PM
Hear! Hear! Well put!
Jon| 2.3.11 @ 12:40PM
my above statement is in favor of Melvin.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 1:06PM
Melvin, you are aware that the KKK torpedo'd Reconstruction quite effectively, right? That's why for a brief moment we had a couple black senators and a governor in the 1870s, and then it didn't happen again for 80+ years. State-sponsored segregation and discrimination makes it fairly difficult to advance. The ticking clock on advancement started in the 1960s, not the 1860s....and there are still a lot of issues.
Poppakap| 2.3.11 @ 2:07PM
Johnny,
You'd better quit talking about history when you don't know it any better than the soundbites tossed out by your pinko buddies at the local community college.
First of all, the black representatives that were elected during reconstruction were Republicans. Every single one of them. Why? Because Democrats have always been about identity politics. They were during reconstruction, and they are today. That's why all the early (read: reconstruction thru gilded age era) black politicians were Republicans. Plus, there were absolutely zero black US senators until after the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act which was carried by...Republicans. The most ardent opposition to this landmark legislation came from Democrats including Al Gore's father and KKK Grand Kleagle Robert Byrd (Byrd led a filibuster against the legislation, such was his animus towards blacks, Catholics, gays, etc.). So when you spout wise about civil rights beginning in the 1960's as though it was a time of great lefty leadership, you couldn't be more wrong.
In addition, blacks began surging in their importance and acceptance as members of U.S. society during the Roaring 20's when the Harlem Renaissance was taking place. The number of wealthy blacks exploded at that time as whites bought countless books, records, and paintings produced by talented people of African heritage. Of course, racism and discrimination was still a large part of American society, unfortunately. But the changes that ultimately have produced the most integrated society in world history didn't come as a result of pinko politics. It came as a result of good people of all races, nationalities, and creeds putting their differences aside and doing their best to live together peacefully as part of the American dream.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:41PM
Poppakap: You are correct with your history, but why the name calling? Is everybody you disagree with a "Pinko" Can I call you a "Brown Shirt"? No, that would be discourtious
Horace| 2.3.11 @ 8:42PM
Pinkos (communists), Nazis (national socialists), Fascists (Mussolini's) bunch and progressives, they all have one thing in common; the militant imposition of political power, all with the high-minded idea that they represent the little guy and out to give him a better life. They've all come to power in the wake of crisis, manufactured or otherwise. Note what got Obama to power; the war and the economy. He had absolutely no qualifications to become president, yet here he is, in all his glory. Only a crisis would give such a person a chance.
The Obama regime is comprised of old left-wing radicals, progressives and communists, all who thought that the presidency of Obama was the one Christamas that Santa Claus left them more than just a lump of coal. Pinkos, name calling? Yes, but it is but calling a spade a spade. It's just an inconvenient truth that the new left would rather keep quiet.
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 9:48PM
Horace, thank you. Well spoken.
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:47PM
commie works best for me it covers all the socilaist morons with one word.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:58PM
"Plus, there were absolutely zero black US senators until after the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act which was carried by...Republicans. "
You're just proving your ignorance of history. Hiram Rhodes Revels. Blanche Bruce. Two Black senators a good 90 years before the Civil Rights Act.
"First of all, the black representatives that were elected during reconstruction were Republicans. Every single one of them. Why? Because Democrats have always been about identity politics."
- LOL. So when Republicans elect Black reps, it's because the Democrats practice identity politics. But when the Democrats elect Black reps, it's because the Democrats practice identity politics. You see the beautiful logic you've put together there?
If you don't understand anything about the evolution of political parties and the flip of Southern Democrats to become Southern Republicans after the Civil Rights movement, then what use is explaining history to you?
"The most ardent opposition to this landmark legislation came from Democrats"
The most ardent opposition came from Southerners. Northern Democrats supported the Civil Rights Act, Northern Republicans somewhat supported the Civil Rights Act, and Southerners were against it no matter what they're political ideology. When the Democratic presidents pushed the movement and signed the bills, White Southern politicians switched en masse from the Democratic Party to the Republican party, while Black voters switched en masse to the Democrats.
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 2:17PM
And you are aware, Melvin, that the KKK was an organization filled with Democrats, right? You are aware that the infamous segregationists of the 1960's, from Bull Connor to George Wallace were Democrats, right?
Melvin| 2.3.11 @ 2:23PM
Are you aware the the KKK was Southern Democrats, most noted was Democrat Senator Robert Byrd former Grand Klegal.
Also the main opposition to the Civil Rights law was Democrats.
Mike| 2.5.11 @ 1:24PM
Melvin, not sure of the numbers, but the Klan's membership was very high in most of the Northern states. Like the South this membership was Democrats.
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:10PM
What are the issues??
Mike| 2.5.11 @ 1:10PM
Jonathan, I hope you are aware slavery, the KKK, and segregation, were institutions of the Democratic party until the 1960s. Divide and conquer has been added.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:33PM
Mike, what do you think happened to all those racist Southern Democrats? 95% of them became racist Southern Republicans. When the South switched from faithfully Democratic to faithfully Republican, what did you think happened?
Lawrence Boccardi| 2.3.11 @ 7:37AM
As annoying as it is, this is insignificant. It is only racism. Of greater threat is their collective inability to attack the radical Muslim situation, or even to call it by name. Just the difference in the way they handled the Iranian uprising in the summer of 2009, and the way they will install the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt, is all one needs to know. These "leaders" are going to get us bombed.
Darin| 2.3.11 @ 8:28AM
Actually, it's a symptom of a bigger problem. And it's the reason why this administration refuses to deal with the real, documented threat of Islam. The underlying problem is the viewpoint that everything done by white Christians is evil and thus everything done to oppose them is by definition good. Racism in any form is evil as it degrades a targeted segment of the population. And all political correctness aside, Islam is a religion/cultural based on the belief that certain groups (e.g., Muslim men) are superior to all other groups (including white Christians as well as Muslim women) and thus should be ground into dust.
Stephanie| 2.3.11 @ 9:07AM
I don't see it as collective inability to call Islam what it is. It is their unwillingness to call it terrorism, a theocracy, a blight.
I do agree with you though, this administrations action or lack therof will cost us handsomely.
AustinDave| 2.3.11 @ 2:56PM
Be careful, If you keep disagreeing with our government they will label you a terorist. I am still not really sure why folks that fight against our invading and occupying their country because the citizens don't like the oppressive dictator that we have chosen for them are to considerred so radical. What a bunch of brainwashed sheep we have in this country. When in doubt, always blame the banks. Social division is the tool banksters use to bleed the world dry. Why do you think the Rothschilds have more wealth than the rest of the world combined? They cause, then finance conflict. End the Rothschild's stranglehold on this country. End The Fed!
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 9:50PM
Couldn't agree more. End the Fed!
AustinDave| 2.3.11 @ 3:12PM
By the way, does anyone really think that it is a coincidence that all the top administration appointees are banksters?
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 12:09PM
There's a good article over at the American Thinker website today about calling Islam what it is, and it makes the very salient point that the radical Muslims are not the ones carrying out Jihad - those are the orthodox Muslims - the radicals are the ones who are NOT trying to carry out Jihad.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 1:01PM
Except that the course of Muslim history shows short periods of violent jihad separated by centuries where nothing of the sort was seen. Add that to the fact that a tiny % of the Muslim population has participated in violent jihad at any one time, and it's hard to see how it can be considered "orthodox". I mean, come on, Wahabi Islam didn't even come around until the 18th century and has always been strongly opposed by Sunni traditionalists.
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 2:27PM
I would advise you not to quote history, since you obviously know nothing of it. Since the founding of Islam, it has been a religion of war. It spread at the point of a sword across North Africa and into Spain and eventually France before its advance was halted, and in the east spread throughout Persia and into India, and through Turkey into Eastern Europe, all at the point of a sword. The Koran repeatedly admonishes believers to fight and kill "Infidels," and even promises holy retribution against Muslims who do not fight and kill "Infidels."
I will say it again - Islam has been at war with civilization since its founding, and will be at war with civilization till its eradication.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:45PM
And what do you call the Crusades? Or the Holacaust? Or the Inquisition?
Joe| 2.3.11 @ 3:05PM
The Crusades? A perfectly legitimate defensive counter-attack against violent Moslem invasion of (primarily Byzantine) Christian territories, with concommitant oppression of Christian inhabitants. The Inquisition? Most Inquisitorial courts were more fairly run and more lenient than their secular counterparts. None of that matters, though, because, you see, we (the Christian West) have outgrown those sorts of things, while the ROPOs have not...and *cannot*, because, while there is NOTHING in the New Testament enjoining Christians to undertake violence (and so, when it happens, it is the fault of imperfect Christian humans, not of Christianity per se), for the ROPOs, their basic scripture actively calls for violence and conquest. The religions simply cannot be analogized, for that reason. Again, Mr. Monk, fairly simple...though not simplistic.
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 10:08PM
Joe,
I agree, but you did not discuss the Holocaust that was mentioned as well, by "da" Idiot. I shall attempt to do so here:
The Holocaust was caused by mercilessly evil men, who desired to eliminate the scapegoat they created to explain why their race had not achieved as much as others, or could have possibly achieved (kind of like some Democraps of today), and why they had been forced to repay enormous debts. They blamed their poverty, hardships, etc., on the Jews (not on the Globalist ambitions of WWI), and made retribution their main goal. NONE of this is Christian in its nature, yet many today claim that these evil bastards were "christian" and attack Christianity with their nonsense. It is easily disproved if one wants to really check the history, but the rumor persists nonetheless. What the evil bastards REALLY wanted was power. Pure, unadulterated power--AND, they thought the Bible and Biblical history could potentially lead them to that power, even though they had no clue as to the nature of the true power of the Word. It is my sincerest hope and belief that they are paying for their blasphemies and misdeeds as we write this, but regardless, they were not Christian and showed none of the characteristics of a Christian as defined in the Bible.
Hopefully "da" Idiot will learn of these characteristics. Soon.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 11:10PM
Big E - you're quoting short periods and that's it. The events you describe took place in a very limited time frame compared to the 1300 years of Muslim history.
And if you take those periods, then how about Constantine conquering by the name of the sword? How about the conquering of Europe by Christian kings? The priests and soldiers going hand-in-hand to colonize both American continents, Africa, and most of Asia in the "name of Christianity"?
I am actually a deeply devout Christian, and my life revolves around my faith. But I know that true Christian faith does not grow at the point of the sword, nor at the expense of lying about world history in order to make those who claimed to practice my faith look better.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 11:12PM
And, yeah, I somehow forgot to mention the Crusades, Inquisition, Native American genocide, WWI, Mussolini, or Hitler.
Do I really think Christianity was behind all those things? Not really - Christianity was just a cover. In the same way that I don't believe every single action of war by a Muslim country is due to Islam.
old white guy| 2.4.11 @ 2:49PM
lawrence, you are right.
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 7:56AM
This just illustrates the depths to which our Country has sunk, most recently, and certainly most seriously, under barry and his thugs, especially the racist eric holder. It also clearly illustrates the double standard that pervades our society due mainly to the efforts of the racist media and democratic party.
If you're Black you can essentially get away with anything in today's legal climate. Same thing with homosexuals. This is continually reinforced by the democrats and their willing lackies in the media. They are the REAL racists. I'm sick and tired of them trotting out 'slavery' whenever White libs waver in their self destruction. African Blacks were enslaved by their OWN PEOPLE, by members of other tribes who engaged in constant inter-tribal warfare. The losers were either killed or enslaved. Blacks enslaving Blacks.
Then, muslim arab slavers bought the Black slaves and re-sold them to European slavers who were instrumental in establishing the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Hmmm; Blacks enslaving other Blacks who then sold their 'racial' brethren to Arab/Muslim slavers who then sent them to the New World. Where are us evil "Racist White Americans" in all this? Wait! We had nothing to do with it.
So, we have two 'protected classes' (ie., loved and cherished by libs and dems) collaborating to bring slavery to North America. Then, thousands of AMERICAN WHITES died in our Civil War to free the slaves. Yet, We're the evil ones. Rewriting history is so much fun.
What would the media have done if the leading Republican Senator was an unapologetic life-long member of the KKK? But not a peep was made over robert byrd's long history in the Klan. How about that? Why didn't the Blacks ever wonder about that? Or about how the dem's philosophies destroyed Black families for 50 years and encouraged a dependency on the government that reduced them to plantation slaves. Where is the outrage?
Answer; there is none because collectively Blacks in America have meekly handed over their pride, abilities, and initiative to the dems in return for being taken care of. However, what has 'being taken care of' actually meant? How about total cultural annihilation?
So, American libs and generally ignorant voters decided it was a Black's turn in the White House. How many Americans ever thought that, not only were they electing a 'wannabe dictator'; but they were essentially handing over OUR rights in a supposedly 'color blind" society. It is NOT color blind, it is the most racist regime in history. How many more White Americans will have to be blocked by "White's Need Not Apply" signals when jobs are desperately needed to keep food on the table? How many American government workers will stay "in their place" while discovering that Whites are the new victimized minority? (The first time the majority is being discriminated against by the minority being driven by the government. Hmmm...)
Discrimination is discrimination. I wonder how history will tell the story of the death of the democratic party; the death of freedom in America, and the rise of protected classes like Blacks, homosexuals and muslims. One more time: Discrimination is discrimination. Racism is racism. Both are abhorrant, but barry and his pet AG holder are determined to rip America apart any way they can. How much time do we have? And just how much will our citizens put up with at the hands of a racist regime propped up by a lying media?
The absolutely worst aspect of the whole thing is the aggressive perpetuation of the whole "racism" guilt trip by libs and dems. It has nothing to do with race at all. There are no such things as human 'races'. There is one race here, it's called THE HUMAN RACE. We're all members. Division of humans into "races" is as scientifically bankrupt as falsifying data to 'prove' glo-bull warming. Follow the money...and power. Aye; THAT'S the rub!
winterhawk| 2.3.11 @ 8:33AM
Very good post Mike. I could not agree with you more. The regime currently in power has brought "racism" to the forefront again. It has been done in criminal fashion to further their communist agenda. The only recouse we have is at the voting booth. If we cannot get it done there, we have a serious problem. DC could then see what is happening in Egypt today.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:27PM
again, lies. if you're black, you can get away with anything in today's legal climate? um, no!
isn't the prison population mostly made up of black and other minorities? yes, it is. so tell them they got away with it....
i should call my buddies in the "lamestream" media to cite your statements. mine too, heck. you would get chopped up in all the fact checking. it would help the democratic base - you would be painted as a crazy liar. you got some good points but you embellish in places you shouldn't.
Joe| 2.3.11 @ 3:11PM
Your argument fails, logically, gilbert. Consider this hypothetical: If blacks committed, say, 90% of the crime in the US (and, lest you mistake me, I am NOT saying they do), and, say, 51% of the prison population were black, it would be legitimate to say blacks were treated less harshly (in terms of incarceration) than whites, no? So....The mere fact that blacks constitute a majority of the prison population (if, in fact, they do), proves nothing, necessarily, about the relative ability of blacks and whites to "get away" with something.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 4:50PM
scroll up. the guy said that blacks get away with anything in this legal climate. it's not true - they get incarcerated. like every other race.
irish19| 2.3.11 @ 12:54PM
"If you're Black you can essentially get away with anything in today's legal climate."
The main exception to that is if you happen to be black and conservative.
Gilbert does raise the point below that a large majority of today's prison population is black. I suspect we can chalk at least part of that up to liberal social programs that have destroyed the black family over the course of nearly a half century.
irish19| 2.3.11 @ 12:55PM
Actually, Gilbert appears to have raised his point above rather than below this post.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 12:55PM
"If you're Black you can essentially get away with anything in today's legal climate."
Um, that statement is pretty easy to prove incorrect, you know...
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:48PM
Mike: Is your middle name Bigot?
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 5:29PM
Monk;
Evidently you forgot to read the last paragraph of my post. Try again...
Mimi| 2.3.11 @ 4:58PM
Mike...great post!! I would add...Holder and Co. do Black Americans a diservice to treat them as lesser citizens, needing a leg-up.....They are full fledged just like every-body enjoying the Blessings of Liberty in this country. They behave as the worst of the worst RACISTS. WE NEED to CLOSE UP SHOP at the JUSTICE DEPT. CIVIL RIGHTS DEPT. Fire them all....We elected a !st Black President....It's a NEW DAY!!!
VBMax| 2.3.11 @ 8:20AM
This can be neatly summed up in one sentence: The DOJ is a criminal organization operating within a criminal organization (the Obama administration). The question is, what can be done about it?
Stephanie| 2.3.11 @ 9:11AM
Finding a damn good candidate for next years election would be a good place to start.
The Republicans will not impeach obama because he is half colored, so the ballot box is the only recourse we have.
AustinDave| 2.3.11 @ 3:15PM
End The Fed!
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 8:40AM
What I want to know is, when do the Congressional hearings on the handling of the Black Panther case begin? Are there none scheduled? Why not?
The reason the Congress has oversight authority is to oversee the Executive branch's enforcement of the laws the Congress has passed. To insure their being enforced in an honest and proper fashion. My suspicion is that if the truth were known, that many officials in this administration, including the AG himself, has committed serious violations of the criminal law in this case, including conspiracy to violate civil rights, obstruction of justice, and even perjury. And of course, what we all want to know - to paraphrase someone from history whose name is currently escaping my grasp - is what did the president know, and when did he know it. If these people have broken the law, then they should be removed from office, prosecuted, and if convicted, punished, as any other criminal. The start of that process though, is a Congressional hearing.
VBMax| 2.3.11 @ 9:09AM
How does the Dept of Justice prosecute itself?
John Navratil| 2.3.11 @ 9:52AM
It doesn't, Congress does. Ask Attorney General Alberto Gonzales when Bush dismissed sitting U.S. attorneys and was accused of using the offices for political advantage. The howling from the left was everywhere.
Fast-forward four years and it's "move along, nothing to see here."
John Navratil| 2.3.11 @ 9:54AM
"What did the President know and when did he know it?" - Sen. Howard Baker
Clint| 2.3.11 @ 9:10AM
Where's Sheriff Dupnik?
WB| 2.3.11 @ 9:22AM
He's too busy prepping himself as the 2012 Democratic National Convention keynote speaker...
Stephanie| 2.3.11 @ 9:12AM
Isn't it Darrell Issa's job to have hearings on this mess? Damn, that man has his hands full!
hunter| 2.3.11 @ 9:18AM
Going, going, gone the way of Zimbabwe under Robert Mugabe and South Africa. The tail is wagging the dog, the tail can't remove the dog,but the dog can remove the tail.
Will| 2.3.11 @ 9:20AM
Yes, when will Congressional hearings convene? Civil rights has been such an issue for so long, that this outrage can no longer be ignored. Whether Holder and Obama like it or not, this needs to be addressed in a forum in which questions must be answered.
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 9:51AM
When is enough enough?
The land mark case of Brown vs. The Board of Education happened some 57 years ago. Since then huge strides have been made is race relations within this country. Dispite all these strides the race card is played almost on a daily basis by liberals. The race issue is continually at the heart of liberal commentary. The Tea Party is rasist, Glen Beck is a rasist, don't even talk to me about Sarah Palin. When is enough enough?
The answere is, it is never enough. Only by laying down the smoke screen of racism can actual racism be maintained by the liberal elite. Look for a moment at an old Southern Plantation. The slaves worked in the fields, and the results of their labor went to the Master. The slaves were provided with housing. The slaves were even allowed to have a doctor come visit, if the doctor wasn't too busy with other cases. Now apply the same to the political realities of today. We work, and the results of our labor are taken from us in ever increasing taxsation. We were given low income housing loans. There came the bubble bust of of our economy. And now we get Obamma Care, the doctor will come visit when he isn't too busy.
When consertives object to these actions, who is labled a rasist? Why, the consertives of course. How dare we not let a man have a house, or a baby a doctor? But what then is the true measure of freedom? I submit that it is gain through your own efforts, responsibility for your own actions.
How did freedom get so turned around? It got turned around when our society decided that race was an excuse. It got turned around when liberals decided "fairness" trumped freedom. Freedom has never been fair, just free.
For the DOJ, enough is never enough. The sins of the past must be remembered and used as an excuse forever. For the liberal mind set, freedom is the obstruction of "fairness" and fairness is the pathway to control. How sick it is that today the educated elites (substitute Plantation Master) are so bent on keeping the American Public on the Plantation. For them, enough is never enough, control is never complete.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 12:53PM
Funny you mention Brown v. Board of Education....are you aware that in most urban areas, schools are MORE segregated than they were 57 years ago? In Detroit, for example, 90% of the students are black, yet the average white student goes to a school that is 2% black. So exactly how much progress have we made again?
Truth to Power| 2.3.11 @ 2:19PM
Detroit is the progressive nirvana. It is a shell of itself and its citizens are those that can't leave. This is the ultimate path of progressivism. Phony promises, corruption, followed by collapse. Never fear they can still gin up a good protest against WalMart. This is where Obama will lead us. He and his kind (mostly white progressives) are not sustainable.
The Big E| 2.3.11 @ 2:33PM
And oddly enough, Detroit has been run by Democrats, and frankly, by black Democrats, for how long now?
Of course, it was Democrats who OPPOSED school desegregation, so I guess the current state of the Detroit school system is perfectly in line with what has been the Democrat party's position on the issue for the better part of the last century and a half.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 10:59PM
So you're saying that Detroit politicians should force schools to desegregate?
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:52PM
Are you claiming thatGlen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, the Tea Party have not uttered racist comments? Take the cotton out of your ears.
Steve A| 2.3.11 @ 3:26PM
Go ahead & list those comments for us if you would care to.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:35PM
Besides the fact that both of them automatically assumed that Barack Obama was a racist without any supporting evidence, how about these statements:
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
"You ever notice how all composite pictures of wanted criminals look like Jesse Jackson?"
"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."
Then there's referring to Obama as an "angry black guy", calling Obama's economic program "reparations", accusing Obama of deliberating destroying the economy because he's black and wants payback, claiming that if Obama weren't black he'd just be a tour guide in Hawaii, saying that "In Obama's America, the white kids get beat up while the black kids cheer", calling Obama a "little black man-child", claiming that Colin Powell only supported Obama because he's black....you get the picture?
Albert| 2.3.11 @ 9:58AM
Did anyone expect actual justice and equality from Eric Holder? Really? President Bozo and his minions were known quantities before the election, but the American People witlessly elected these criminals anyway. As long as the majority of voters still get their "information" from CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC, this will continue.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:30PM
yeah, as long as the voters get their information from all the major news networks. good one. what you don't undertsand is that liberals look at all the news sources. whereas tea partiers and republicans only get it from one source. don't you think that's odd?
Albert| 2.3.11 @ 3:14PM
You comment is a little odd. It is conservatives who have given rise to alternative media. To lump all the various sources of information on radio and the internet as "one source" is absurd and laughable. And in case you haven't noticed (or are unable to notice) the major TV networks are all propaganda services for the Democrat Party and have been for decades. This is no longer an assertion but a proven fact. The people on these networks make little or no effort to hide it any more. And the notion that liberals "look at all the news sources" is ridiculous. I know too many liberals personally, and they watch and hear only what reinforces their narrow beliefs.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:38PM
Alternative media is rarely another source. The fast majority of blogs and talk radio shows do no independent investigating of their own - they just other people's stories and state their own opinion on them. Adding more voices doesn't add any more sources if those people are just regurgitating the same stories.
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 3:50PM
gilbert, I suspect that you and da monk both sit on the same sofa. Not once, not once has Glen Beck or Sarah Palin uttered a public racist remark. You may sit before the tube, and even hear what has been said, but judging from your comments I doubt you have listened to a single thing falling outside your own personal agenda that has been said.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 4:52PM
i'm on this blog aren't i? i like having a broad base of political insight and input. you should too. but you don't - too scared to diversify or entertain ideas outside of a fear bunker.
Albert| 2.3.11 @ 5:55PM
Horse manure. Every time we tune to the alphabet networks we get your side. In fact we don't just "get" it we are inundated by it. The Amspec doesn't need equal time, it IS equal time. Personally, I've been listening to leftist horse manure for over 40 years. I USED to tune in to the aforementioned networks for news and information. The more I watched and listened, the more I grew to understand that what was being sold as news was garbage. Leftist propaganda. And it was the TRUTH that was being suppressed. Lastly, can we dispense with the "fear bunker" nonsense?
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 7:44PM
so the majority of the american news networks are leftish propaganda...so 90% of the american news networks are "left." why do you think that is? weird, really. somehow the left controls the majority of what americans watch. why is that?
don't worry, in 20 years you'll be dead and i'll be the new conservative wondering why all these crazy young people want to take my money to say, i dont know, something crazy that will make me want to get my laser gun as a 2nd amendment remedy. no, i won't. that's archaic, barbaric 20th century stuff.
welcome to the 21st century.
ok, no more fear bunker =]
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 10:40PM
What? Dude, really. Stop smoking crack and get yourself a job. Really. It'll give you a little self esteem and maybe get you out of your Mom's basement, I promise. You stated:
"don't worry, in 20 years you'll be dead and i'll be the new conservative wondering why all these crazy young people want to take my money to say, i dont know, something crazy that will make me want to get my laser gun as a 2nd amendment remedy"
WTF??? Do you even review your posts before you put them on the screen? Also, did you ever take English punctuation in school? (Just sayin')... :-)
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.3.11 @ 10:30AM
I'm biased.
See, I'm an older white male.
May I mention a HUGE unintended consequence of all of the race-baiting?
Most companies' leadership, made up of the majority, (whites), is as it should be in the normal manner of things.
Companies used to advertise for recruits in the newspapers and internet in more recent times.
Most of them don't any longer.
They would rather pay large fees to "recruiting firms" or "personnel firms" who in turn, discreetly screen said job aspirants according to attitudes.
Sullen people don't get by. Angry people don't get by. Aggrieved people don't get by. Job-hoppers don't get by. People who have spent a lot of time unemployed don't get by. People who demonstrate irresponsibility in their credit history don't get by. Multiple convictions for felonies also has a dimming effect.
See, the prospective employing company just doesn't want to face discrimination lawsuits out their ears.
The consequence is that some fine people of color never get a shot.
The risks are just too darned high!
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:54PM
Baloney! You're also a bigot
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 3:53PM
And another liberal tosses the race card.
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:39PM
So I guess that when the article writer and most of the commenters on this article threw out the race card, they were all liberals too?
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 6:18PM
da monk:
You'd really better expand your vocabulary, your limits are showing. Having actually managed a Fortune 500 Company, as has "Old Texican", we all watch for the one fundamental thing that is always fatal to anybody's career: The inability to get along with others; regardless of whether they agree or not. It doesn't matter how smart, experienced, skilled, whatever. If they can't get along, they will not last...or advance. Now, quick; turn that into a racist comment!
VBMax| 2.3.11 @ 10:30AM
The history of African-Americans in this country is one of the greatest success stories in the history of the world. Descendants of slaves become pillars of society, leaders in government, executives of business and industry, celebrities in the arts and entertainment, superstars in athletics etc. But the progressives want to still paint them as victims for their own self interest.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:31PM
legit.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:55PM
Not all Liberals. Just like not all Conservatives are closed minded
Louis Jenkins| 2.3.11 @ 11:04AM
I guess some farm animals are more equal than others. Obama is protecting his sublets. And will continue to do so until he is turned out. MikeD, you've pretty much summed it up, there is no justice in the black man's court, unless you happen to be black. If you're white, well, your bones will be picked clean.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 2:58PM
And a Black person can get justice in a White court? You're complaining about the same thing you claim Blacks do. Is it because you have the right to complain and Blacks don't. You're illogical
Louis Jenkins| 2.3.11 @ 5:00PM
Unfortuantely, Mr. Da Monk, the tides have turned and we're on the stove now, and I understand Mr. Obama likes us well done. We've got so many black action groups, so many college funds, so many affirmative societies for blacks, and there are none for whites. Allow a white person to do something specific, and the blacks call them a racist. If you started one white action group, just one, how long would it be before they would be called racist? About a split second if I may answer. No, am not asking about a black person in a white person's court, but the tables have turned sir.
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 5:41PM
Just play the "TURNABOUT GAME". Look at what happens in politics, justice, the media, academia, pick it. Then, reverse it and assume a Republican or Conservative did it. What would happen? How would the media and the libs react if G.W. Bush hid all HIS personal information frfom the whole Country? What would happen if Bush had dismissed an "open & shut" case of racial harassment in a polling place where whites threatened the blacks? It's a simple game and not hard to play.
How about if it had been uncovered that George Bush had been in the KKK? What would the media have done? How about if Bush were caught in some of the lies algore has been with the whole 'global warming' joke? Finally, what would the media have said if Bush had been caught doing an illegal fundraiser and explained it away by admitting it was wrong, but that it was OK because "...there was no controlling legal authority." And; just for chuckles and grins, do a little research and see if you can find the Democratic Party's official campaign song for the 1868 election. (Hint: You won't believe it.)
Humphry Dumfries | 2.4.11 @ 11:10AM
Whew! That took some digging!
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=84287
Oldefarte| 2.3.11 @ 11:05AM
This editorial as usual is PURE GOLD! This issue at DOJ is IMO only part of the much larger one that has progressively increased throughout my lifetime regarding race. Laws were enacted to protect African-Americans after the civil rights abuses of the 1960's and rightfully so. Additionally, liberal Democrats [ie the Kennedys etc] proactively used politics and their governmental positions of power to aggressively administer same. The whole basis for same was [or should have been] to establish EQUALITY in access and treatment of individuals, BUT these looney liberals wouldn't [or can't stop there]. Their preferred outcome is not equality but rather SUPERIORITY of their preferred class. The 1954 Brown vs. Bd. of Ed. legal case eliminated SEPERATE BUT EQUAL school seperation between those of blacks vs. white ones. Additionally, the federal government initiated a takeover of the public education system [from states] and aggressively established it affirmative action school policies, again to supposedly establish equality treatment. What has been the eventual result of all of this? African Americans are not only given special treatment in schools, but in life in general. In schools, every child is provided with the SAME teachers, classrooms, computers, books, school assignments, etc. To repeat, THE SAME! Correspondingly, the test scores proceeding from 1954's law have produced larger and larger disparities between blacks and whites in both reading and mathmatics. In employment, civil rights laws have forced more and more hiring of blacks [by any corporation holding federal contracts, which is most of them], and the result has been the gradual degradation of business effeciency from same. Since it is impossible for the government to FORCE INTELLIGENCE, the eventual outcomes desired by liberals is and forever will be impossible to obtain [absent the desire of individual African-Americans to truly educate themselves and to achieve success in life based upon that education]. Their success in sports is well documented and applauded, but they traditionally discount and discredit the education of their children as somehow being too WHITEY, HONKIE, OR OREO like. If black children perform well in school and learn, they are discriminated and intimidated by other black children; consequently the traditional of black poverty, unintelligence and dependency upon governmental welfare continues from one generation to the next. When these black nationalists politicians desiring and promoting black superiority through governmental policies and laws get it through their thick sculls that the only true achievement in life is possible by means of and educated and self-motivated populus, then finally their racial class of people will succeed, not be discriminated against, and free!!!!!!!!!
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 12:33PM
good points!
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 5:53PM
I also find it interesting that the only Blacks acceptable to the democrats and the media are LIBERAL Blacks. They went after Justice Thomas and Condie Rice with blood in their eyes! These are brilliant people who just happen to be Conservative.
Any Black leader who condemns Conservative Blacks is a hypocrite who is condemning American Blacks to a life of inferiority because they are reinforcing behaviors that are destructive in ANY society. Single mothers have been glorified, and when something is praised, we get more of it. The single biggest handicap for Black kids is to be raised without a father. And the libs aren't just doing it to the Blacks, they are glorifying the "Fatherless" family by praising the single mother and excusing bad behavior by men regardless of "race". How many feminists love to denegrate men and scream that we are unnecessary 'sperm doners.'? Being a good father is a very tough job.
(Remember my comment about "race". It is a 'null' concept because there is only ONE race, the human race. All the differences are merely subtle specialties caused by accomodating to climatic factors over time. But I guess 'monk' didn't read that far before he/she/it decided to throw another 'race bomb'.)
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 7:46PM
only one race, the human race. i like that way of thinking...
i just wish you could feel the same about your fellow uninsured americans. instead of saying "you" versus them...we're supposed to be a family taking care of each other...
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:27PM
Mike D, you're absolutely correct in that the condemnation of conservative blacks by liberals [who falsely proclaim the RIGHTS agenda] exposes their LIBERAL POLITICAL AGENDA. They are FOR something as long as it is THEIR SOMETHING. To them and their agenda, it's correct only if it's THEIR AGENDA. It's all about RADICAL-EXTREMIST LIBERALSIM, period!!!!
Tim the Enchanter| 2.4.11 @ 4:16PM
Mike D: "It" is correct.
irish19| 2.3.11 @ 1:04PM
"but they traditionally discount and discredit the education of their children as somehow being too WHITEY, HONKIE, OR OREO like. If black children perform well in school and learn, they are discriminated and intimidated by other black children"
This is the crux of the matter. Academic performance needs to be as lauded as athletic.
A problem is a lack of male role models and nuclear families. Following the passage of fair housing legislation, many middle class black families fled the inner city. What was left were the dregs. The role models were gone, and welfare legislation provided a disincentive for the traditional two-parent household. Small wonder that things have gone downhill.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 3:02PM
And there are no white dregs of society in the inner city? Look back on you Irish heritage and discover how the Irish were discriminated. Ask your grand father about signs in store windows looking for help with the declaration "Irish need not apply"
How quick you forget
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 5:58PM
My grandfather made sure I knew what NINA meant before my 10th birthday. And we lived in a racially mixed area but nobody thought a thing about it. My best friend growing up never noticed that one of us was white and one of us was black until he got to college and learned how bad 'whitey' was. He didn't talk to me for 25 years until he made a tearful apology at his daughter's wedding. That's just one of the reason that people like 'monk' and 'gilbert' who don't know a thing about anybody here are so irritating. They'll play the race card at the drop of a hat and have NO IDEA of the hate behind it. I've seen more racial hypocricy in my 63 years that both of them put together.
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 7:48PM
it's b/c your rhetoric is inconsistent. one moment you want a revolution and in another, you sort of hand in an olive branch. love your fellow americans and let's get them insured healthcare!
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 9:22PM
Read my posts, don't just 'skim' them looking for something to react to. I consistently bring out the unfortunate fact that obama and his regime have divided Americans faster and more deeply than ANY other administration since before the Civil War. He, pelosi, and reid are going out of their way to raise the level of rhetoric to incitement levels.
I am pointing out that, as happened here in 1776 and 1789 in France, and other places around the globe, the "People" do not have an infinite patience to put up with lies, vote fraud, sneaking votes through in the middle of the night, passing monumental laws that weren't even read...and then laughing about it in public.
Every time obama, reid, and especially pelosi open their mouths their arrogance pops out. Their distain for the 'little people' drips from their lips with every word. Remember what Marie Antoinette said: (Paraphrased because it does not directly translate) "Let them eat cake!" That meant "Screw 'em; give them bread and water!"
That's the attitude of obama and his party; and the media that supports them. They're elitists and they think they're better than the poor dumb masses. But, never in the history of the world have the "poor dumb masses held nearly 100 million guns in their possession. Carlos Castaneda wrote: He who forgets the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them". What obama is trying to cram down American's collective throats is not working anywhere in the world. I have lived in England; France, Australia, Japan, Singapore, The Netherlands, and Switzerland. I've worked in 78 countries and still have close friends in every one. I even have a post graduate degree from Cal Berkeley, of all places. What obama and the dems are trying to jam through has not worked anywhere it has been tried! That is the truth. And, remember the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over even though it didn't work; expecting a different outcome.
I'm tired of arguing. At least you haven't gotten foul and filthy like the others below who decided to hijack the site and demonstrate their abject stupidity for all to see. They forget that every time a computer is used on line it leaves a trail. I wonder if they know that? Good night.
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 10:52PM
Mike, excellent post. Thank you.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:34PM
Irish19, you're absolutely correct! Public education could be remedied in a relative short period of time IF it was returned back to the states [and taken from the federal government and the teachers' unions], if attendance/support by parents/relatives was economically tied to the governmental welfare assistance of same, if qualified/professional/dedicated teachers' salaries were doubled/tripled and correspondingly incompetitent teachers were fired, and if progression of children from grade to grade were dependent upon their testing. If these things were accompolished, there would be very little/no disparity between black and whites, and children would become truly educated enough to go forth into the world and financially support themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
big bob| 2.3.11 @ 11:19AM
This case is exactly why I am flying into TX to attend the "True to Vote" summit in March that will teach citizens how to secure the election process on the day of elections. It is being run by J. Christian Adams and will focus on powers allotted to citizens by the constitution when the government refuses to do its job. This is especially prescient given the recent dismissal of the Black Panther case by the DOJ. I live in East Pa and I intend to gather as much information as I can. I will not sit through another ridiculous election without doing everything I can to halt this undermining of our country.
Jared| 2.3.11 @ 11:26AM
Crackers don't deserve no protection.My man Obama is just giving the brothers justice long overdue, which is what the justice departmint is supposed to so, right? it's about time!
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 7:49PM
that kind of talk is not cool. stop it.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:36PM
As Forrest said, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES [SAYS]!!!!!!!!!
Tim the Enchanter| 2.4.11 @ 4:19PM
Are you the guy in the Subway commercials?
David W| 2.3.11 @ 11:52AM
Subpoena first. If failure to comply, them cite for contempt. If failure to act, then defund the department. Then begin impeachment procedings against the officials, including Holder.
scythe| 2.3.11 @ 11:56AM
"The notion that civil rights laws apply to all citizens, and are not on the books merely to protect minority groups or to pursue white racists, is an anathema to the liberal civil rights establishment and their sympathetic partners in the Justice Department." Like no one saw this coming, right? In this administration, it just became too obvious to ignore. But over the last few decades, since these laws were enacted, it was obvious to many that their application was tendentious. The same goes for any other "protected minority" which includes everyone but straight white men. Eric Holder actually did us a favor. He let the cat (panther) out of the bag and the rest of us who have asserted the perversion of these laws have now been vindicated. Along the same lines as many of us who have asserted that America has been under the malignant influence of cultural Marxism since the 1960's. In fact the perversion of the Civil Right Laws IS a Marxist strategy. They are inextricably intertwined.
Doctor Right| 2.3.11 @ 12:06PM
Mr. Holder would be wise to understand that if whites are not protected by the law, then neither are we bound by it.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 12:50PM
"if whites are not protected by the law, then neither are we bound by it".....
Wow....just wow.
scythe| 2.3.11 @ 1:47PM
A "law" for some and not for all is not longer a "law". It is tyranny.
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 10:08AM
People who say "Wow...just wow" have no idea how contrived and cliched they see, do they?
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:41PM
Doctor, analyze your first statement with that mindset and then get back to me.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 3:03PM
I think you made a mistake: Your'e name is Dr. Wrong. And I ask you Dr. Wrong are you preaching for a race war?.
scythe| 2.3.11 @ 6:22PM
To comment on the overtly racist actions of those in government by a private citizen will not be the gasoline on the flames. When a government blatantly treats its citizens in such a flagrantly bigoted manner, then it is THEY who light the match. Why are YOU trying to deflect attention and blame from those at fault? Why did YOU mention it at all? Playing the RACE CARD? Or are you just congenitally illogical or nefarious of purpose? The commentator simply comments. He is NOT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. Or hadn't you noticed?
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 10:55PM
I vote for "congenitally illogical". Or stupid.
Doctor Right| 2.4.11 @ 10:11AM
Not at all. What a stupid assertion.
Those in government who are overtly treating one group (race) differently than others are the ones fanning the flames of racial discontent.
But you probably like those folks, don't you, "da monk"?
REAL Americans have had enough of the left's bullcrap. The Left doesn't seem to understand the first law of physics: What goes around comes around.
It's comin' round.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:38PM
The solution is not what you suggest, but rather through what's known as POLITICAL ELECTIONS!!!!!!!!!
bobmontgomery| 2.3.11 @ 12:23PM
Thanks again, Quin, to you and a small 'band of brothers' doing te work that needs to be done, for a pittance, compared to the $10 and $20 million dollar " self-absorbed 'wonder babies' in the MSM.
David Cay Johnston| 2.3.11 @ 12:24PM
Would Quin Hillyer please explain why he makes no mention of the fact that the decision to not pursue criminal charges was made by the previous administration?
The decision was made on Jan. 7, 2009, which means it was the GWBush administration that made the decision.
Four months later the Obama administration (actually a career DoJ lawyer) decided to drop the civil complaint because there was no one who said they were intimidated.
Can Mr. Hillyer name anyone who says they were intimidated? It would be impossible to pursue a cilil case if there are no complainants. So are there any or is there any evidence people made and then withdrew complaints?
If there are such witnesses that would be an important story. So are there any people who say they were intimidated, Mr. Hillyer?
big bob| 2.3.11 @ 12:36PM
Mr. Johnston
Your version is quite contradictory to sworn testimony before the Civil Rights Commission. I'd like to see how you arrive at your facts and the timetable for those "facts"....
David Cay Johnston| 2.3.11 @ 1:11PM
@ big bob
see the transcript lines 21-24 at Page 19
http://www.usccr.gov/NBPH/05-1.....df#page=19
David Cay Johnston| 2.3.11 @ 1:13PM
sorry, bottom of page 18
big bob| 2.3.11 @ 4:24PM
wrong sworn testimony. Perez is a White House lapdog, along with Holder, et al. I am talking about Adams and Coates. They both directly contradicted Perez's testimony. Coates especially was untethered in his description of Holder's and Obama's intention to ignore equal prosecution under DOJ's directives. Nice try. I'm sure you can find the transcript of those meetings...right?
big bob| 2.5.11 @ 11:23AM
No response? Cat got your tongue? Or do you only cherry pick the stuff that supports your leftist posturing, all the while trying to maintain this erudite pseudo intellectual image? Give me a break.
bobmontgomery| 2.3.11 @ 1:34PM
First of all, we are not trying the Bush administration's handling of the criminal case. We are trying the Obama administration's handling of the civil case. That is why Hillyer didn't mention it. Do you understand that? Secondly, there were people who were intimidated, whether they filed formal complaints or not, because credible witnesses saw people approach the polls and leave. But it is irrelevant whether they filed complaints and it is not impossible to pursue a case if there are no complainants. You want to know why? BECAUSE THE CASE WAS PURSUED AND IT WAS WON IN COURT, YOU DUNDERHEAD. We are discussing the political decision to drop the case after it had already been won and to not pursue sanctions beyond keeping King Samir Shabazz's billy club (not King himself) away from only one polling place for one election cycle, you dingbat.
Following that, and preceeding mightily from that, we are discussing the subsequent revelations about internal handling and political interference with civil rights cases, specifically voting rights cases, in the Voting Rights Section of the Civil Rights Division at DOJ and the expert testimony of people who were there. Do you understand THAT, you ignoramus?
David Cay Johnston| 2.3.11 @ 1:51PM
@bobmontgomery, I asked questions and you resort to juvenile ad hominem attacks,. How about sticking to the issues.
If there was intimidation that is a serious matter. But the transcript of the May hearing leaves significant doubt about the evidence -- note that doubt is a conditional, not a conclusional, word.
I have looked for a record with the names of witnesses and their testimony and frankly have not found it. Perhaps I erred in the search design.
So I would appreciate a link that shows what th witnesses said.
BTW, nothing in the transcript suggests anything was won in court after an adversarial proceeding -- you will see that the defendants did not respond, suggesting a default order.
So, if you have any hard facts, please identify the witnesses who actually saw the asserted intimidation; a URL would be a sufficient.
bobmontgomery| 2.3.11 @ 2:08PM
Bartle Bull. Shut up.
bobmontgomery| 2.3.11 @ 2:20PM
And don't come here blathering about the Bush administration and tell me to stick to the issues. You can find another use for your 'URL's. Here are your references:Peter Kirsanow, Hans von Spakovsky, J Christian Adams, Christopher Coates. There are many more. you can find them at US Commission on Civil Rights, you left-wing lackey.
David Cay Johnston| 2.3.11 @ 2:44PM
@bobmongomery, yeah people who write in favor of competitive markets, and against socialist redistribution systems, are lefty lackies. You are rich with anger, poor on knowledge.
I have read some of the sources you cite and do not see ANY names of witnesses or of people who say they were intimidated. None are named in the transcript of the Civil Rights commission hearing.
Empirical evidence is what I asked for, but you obviously have none, just second hand accounts that also lack hard facts and specifics.
If and when you, or Mr. Hillyer, can produce hard facts -- names and statements by those intimidated or witnesses to the events -- I remain interested in reading what they said because I am interested in learning the facts of what transpired.
VBMax| 2.3.11 @ 3:03PM
From: House Judiciary Committee Rejects Voter Intimidation Inquiry by Connie Hair 1/15/2010
"Bartle Bull submitted an affidavit in U.S. v. New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, et al submitted into the record at the Judiciary Committee markup. Bull was an attorney poll observer in Philadelphia on November 4, 2008. In the mid-1960s, Bull participated in civil rights lawsuits against municipalities in Mississippi and worked closely with Charles Evers to help defend the voting rights of African-Americans in Mississippi. He served as campaign manager in New York for both the Robert F. Kennedy and Jimmy Carter presidential campaigns. He is man well versed in proper voting procedures and hardly a right-wing partisan.
In the affidavit, Bull stated, “Their clear purpose and intent was to intimidate voters with whom they did not agree. Their views were, in part, made apparent by the uniform of the organization the two men wore and the racially-charged statements they made. For example, I heard the shorter man make a statement directed toward white poll observers that, ‘you are about to be ruled by a black man, cracker.’ To me, the presence and behavior of the two uniformed men was an outrageous affront to American democracy and the rights of voters to participate in elections without fear. It would qualify as the most blatant form of voter intimidation I have encountered in my life in political campaigns in many states, even going back to the work I did in Mississippi in the 1960s.”
David Cay Johnston| 2.3.11 @ 4:18PM
@VBMax, Thanks, I have no located and read the entire affidavit, which makes a clear case, leaving unanswered only the question of whether Mr. Bull called the police.
DoJ, during the previous administration, obtained an order barring such activities in the future.
Tim the Enchanter| 2.4.11 @ 4:24PM
DCJ: those were not juvenile ad hominem attacks. They were MATURE ad hominem attacks. Please show more discretion and understanding.
big bob| 2.15.11 @ 7:20AM
Hey genius, you never responded to my directive to read Coates and/or Adams. Your boy Perez is going to lie through his teeth today in congressional testimony, (under oath!!). And your homeboys have disbanded the Civil Rights sub-committee investigating the New Black Panther case. One of the hirelings voting to disband is Roberta Achtenberg...one of the main players behind the scenes of the FannieMae and Freddie Mac fiasco in the 90s. Yeah, you can pick 'em.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:43PM
Any MORON should be [but obviously not] able to view the numerous videos and audios of these incidents in Philadelphia, etc and with a fair degree of COMMON SENSE realize the fact that intimidation and discrimination occurred. Furthermore, any IMBICILE unable to do so can also read the tons of written material available that factually describes the blatant and obvious discrimination existing within the DOJ [but if one cannot read, then no doubt this is impossible]!!!!!
Ralph Novy| 2.3.11 @ 12:32PM
This verbose, hysterical, factually challenged article demonstrates perfectly why the "Black Panther Case" does NOT matter -- except to race-baiters.
Disgraceful.
big bob| 2.3.11 @ 12:37PM
And you "know" this how, again?
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 12:49PM
Wow, you put a black man in the presidency and suddenly no one can pull the race card like a conservative. Do we really need to listen to six more years of this stuff?
scythe| 2.3.11 @ 1:45PM
Like the lefties always say... we are simply REACTING. To what they started. Should we do nothing? Be stomped upon? Would that satisfy you? Noticed you circular logic. Go back to the drawing board and learn how to THINK. Because the rest of those who do, know you even YOU are playing the race card. By accusing others of doing so.
Jonathan| 2.3.11 @ 11:04PM
"YOU are playing the race card. By accusing others of doing so."
Wait, did you just accuse me of playing the race card? That means that YOU are playing the race card. By accusing others of doing so.
And isn't the whole article accusing the Obama administration of playing the race card? So by your logic aren't they the ones playing the race card in the first place? Which is....exactly what I claimed they were doing.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:48PM
PLAYING THE RACE CARD [and labeling others as RACISTS] is STUPID, which no doubt you've been called before!!!!!!!!!
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:44PM
So the original article writer and all the commenters who "play the race card" or "label others as racist" are stupid too?
Since Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh both called the president racist, are they stupid too?
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:46PM
Don't fret Jonathan, it'll all end in November of 2012, which is less than two years from now [if you can count]!!!!!!!!
Jonathan| 2.9.11 @ 2:47PM
Unlikely....his approval rating is 10% points higher than Reagan or Clinton at this stage in their presidencies, half of those who disapprove can't wrap their heads around the fact that he's a Christian or that he was born in Hawaii, and the candidates the opposition is putting up so far are reasonably hilarious. Six more years is looking pretty likely.
Janice Fortin | 2.3.11 @ 12:59PM
Are you sure obama and holder are not members of the New Black Panther Party? Odd that suddenly criminals are A-OK in USA.
da monk| 2.3.11 @ 3:11PM
Janice: Are you a member of the White Citizens Council?
Xeranar| 2.3.11 @ 1:56PM
This is a pathetic joke played on gullible racists. I love reading this dribble because it lets me remember why I am firmly in support of the leftist movement. Right-wing hatemongers and the lies are a necessary part of keeping up the corporatist charade just long enough to milk this country dry.
There is no "new black panther party" it was two guys paid to stand there by republicans to be filmed. Now it is an extended story floating around your media circle to stir up racist feelings. The KKK is very real though and the "tea party patriots" who intimidated black and Hispanic people in Texas actually were arrested. So shouldn't you be worrying about them first?
Nunya| 2.3.11 @ 11:04PM
Really? "it was two guys paid to stand there by republicans to be filmed." Really? BS!!!
Well X, sorry to tell you....but there is NO evidence NOR proof of ANY tea party intimidation of "black and Hispanic" people anywhere. Please SHOW PROOF of such intimidation and I might listen to your blather. Otherwise, I call you a liar. If you prove me wrong, I will apologize to you in a public square.
Oldefarte| 2.4.11 @ 12:54PM
Really, DUMBARS? Check out the following from an authoritive source:
New Black Panther Party
Chairperson Malik Zulu Shabazz
Founded 1989, Dallas, Texas, by Aaron Michaels
Headquarters Dallas, Texas
Ideology Black nationalism, Pan-Africanism, Black supremacy, Racial antisemitism,[1] Anti-capitalism, Anti-Zionism, Anti-imperialism
MikeD| 2.3.11 @ 6:06PM
I hope you all realize that every posting can be traced and those who posted the foul mouthed incitements above will be identified and banned from the site. That will be the least of their worries. It has become quite evident that the imposters come out from under their rocks when the words get too long and the discussion too involved for pin heads to follow.
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 4:04PM
Reading through most of these comments it is easy to come to a conclusion. When rational thought and argument displace liberal ideas, the blog sinks into a morass of name calling and profanity. Reading carefully I discover that the consertive view point is expressed (mostly) with reasoned argument. The rebutal from the left (not all but enough) sinks to "mandingo meat that will put my loser piece of - - - " If anything proves to me that liberals can not accept rational argument, and actually fear it, it is this blog.
Willy| 2.3.11 @ 4:34PM
What a well reasoned, cogent analysis of the issue. I don't want to breath the same air as you.
Consertive View| 2.3.11 @ 4:38PM
I rest my case.
Marc Jeric| 2.3.11 @ 4:55PM
Holder is communist racist - I can predict every future action by him on that basis. There is talk about the whites turning racist in their critique of Obama (as I call him - it's Abu Hussein al-Mombassa); but when I read how the blacks voted for him 95%+ my conclusion is that it is the blacks who are racists.
Jonathan| 2.10.11 @ 2:03PM
Here's an easy disproof of your theory:
Nearly all of the Black people who voted for Obama had voted for White candidates before. It was only this time around that they voted for a Black candidate - in many previous elections those same Black voters are pulling the lever for White candidates.
Many of the White people who didn't vote for Obama have NEVER voted for a Black candidate before. Year after year, election after election, a large percentage of White voters have pulled the lever for a fellow White... every. single. time.
So if you're going by pure percentages, who's racist now? Those Black voters who vote for White candidates all the time or those White voters who have never voted for a Black candidate in their life?
DANSHANTEAL| 2.3.11 @ 5:12PM
ERIC HOLDER CALLED US ALL COWARDS. HE HAS A BEEF TO PICK WITH WHITE AMERICA.
WELL, SO BE IT. BUT THE WHITE GOD IN HEAVEN HAS A BONE TO PICK WITH HIM.
martin j smith| 2.3.11 @ 6:24PM
This case relating to the Black Panther Party and election Fraud via intimidation is one of many elements that characterize the Obama Regime. It is essentially lawless,authoritarian, and based on Marxist ideology and Leninist Methodology. He i9gnores our courts if their decisions if the decisions go against him look at the4 recent rulings on Obama Care and the EPA. He lines up with radical Islamic Movements and leaders--Muslim BrotherHood in Egypt for example. He trashes democratic Countries and destroys our alliances. Come on.... There should no surprise that Obama is behind the actions of our DOunJ.
Finally when will I see writers stop being shocked or surprised a that the MSM overlooks what we believe are really bad behaviors by Obama and his fine feathered friends. Obama =the MSM and vis versa.
rascalofearth| 2.3.11 @ 7:43PM
why do all the comments reflect a hatred of American laws? and oh by the way i am saddened to hear you believe is fox news, the number one news network, is not part of the mainstream of America
Dan| 2.3.11 @ 6:55PM
All talk and no action. Enough time has passed that some actual action should have taken place against Holder and others in his Justice department. Must we wait until 2012 and hope that Obama is defeated so Holder goes ?
A.C.Guard| 2.3.11 @ 7:07PM
One look at this case and it is easy to recognize our contitutional rights have been abridged by a communist dictator and his minions. All the while the legislative branch of our government is splintered with each party looking for power and neither careing abour the country, the constitution or it's people and the Justice department has become an arm of the oppressor. Must we take to the streets as is being done in Egypt? Waiting for 2012 in hope of defeating this illegal regime seems too long a time
rascalofearth| 2.3.11 @ 7:40PM
yes a dictator....elected by more votes than any other person in US history. reality calling....please come back to us... or is massive bloodshed and anarchy really your preference to our laws and elections. btw, i believe the last gop President repealed the great writ from the 13th century...a far more moderate approach
gilbert| 2.3.11 @ 8:07PM
that is what i have been trying to point out! the people here want to take up arms and start a revolution with a 21st century power. ridiculous!
rascalofearth| 2.3.11 @ 7:37PM
of course the focus must be on the doj because as the commentator says the underlying event is trivial. allow me to add insignificant and not worth the investigative efforts of the doj. but oh as a political scare tactic...priceless
joe| 2.3.11 @ 8:14PM
no justice, no peace
somnolence| 2.3.11 @ 9:00PM
All of this might have been avoided had the GOP hired some moonlighting mob enforcers for the right amount of money or some WWF combatants to dislocate shoulders and knees for dramatic effect. They might keep this tactic in reserve in case there are similar methods employed by the Obama legions the next time around. I'm sure there might be a lot of fury left over for Holder in said circles since his media spotlight of rounding up mob bosses fairly recently.
somnolence| 2.3.11 @ 9:00PM
All of this might have been avoided had the GOP hired some moonlighting mob enforcers for the right amount of money or some WWF combatants to dislocate shoulders and knees for dramatic effect. They might keep this tactic in reserve in case there are similar methods employed by the Obama legions the next time around. I'm sure there might be a lot of fury left over for Holder in said circles since his media spotlight of rounding up mob bosses fairly recently.
Horace| 2.3.11 @ 9:11PM
One of the greatest victories of the past 80 years is left's ability to completely turn the political table on the right. As Jonah Goldberg describes in his book, "Progressive Fascism", virtually every revolutionary movement of the past century, be it the communist revolution of 1917, the Nazi's in the thirties or the Fascists in the twenties, was conducted by leftists of a different flavor. All of them advocated change for the betterment of the peoples they ostensibly represented. Goldberg shows us that it is only in the latter part in the 20th century that communism became a pejorative in the modern lexicon. Nazism was actually popular with progressives from all parts of the world, as was Fascism. It was only when they became openly tyrannical and promoted expansionism through war that they were vilified. The left has successfully put the mark of cain on the right in their characterization of Nazism and Fascism as rightest. Jonah Goldberg proves this false. And progressives, in the form of Democrats have successfully smeared the Republicans in the same way, with respect to the politics of race. Once the champions of segregation, the sea change of the late fifties and sixties with respect to racial equality once again caused the chameleon to change his colors. Just as Harry Reid proved the opportunist in his sudden change of hear from complete opposition to illegal immigration to one of a champion for amnesty, after recognizing the demographics of an expanding Hispanic population, the Democrats have proven wonderfully adaptive to their political environments.
MattZ| 2.3.11 @ 9:20PM
"Attorney General Eric Holder and his minions, along with some of their slavish apologists in the media, are deliberately trafficking in lies of great note. They prevaricate with great enthusiasm, and they excuse lawlessness with fierce disdain. They -- both the Department of Justice (DOJ) officials and their leftist amanuenses pretending to be journalists -- brazenly ignore the public's right to information, and intentionally distract attention from relevant facts and from their own deep beliefs."
Sorry, this first paragraph reads like a self-parody on bad and biased polemics. There is meat to the New Black Panther Party "story," and disproportionate rage against a rather moderate president will not make it so. Sorry, this verges on paranoia and madness.
MZ
somnolence| 2.3.11 @ 9:50PM
I hope that Mr. Holder and the entire DOJ realize that the federal judge in Florida has the authority to levy fines and impose jail time if his ruling on the health care imposition is blatantly disregarded. Dennis Durbin should also realize that the judge doesn't have to apply an injunction in order to enforce the ruling. I'm so glad that I have Judge Robert Bork's The Tempting Of America in my library as a reference to go back to time and time again.
ironhorzmn| 2.4.11 @ 2:44AM
The problem is worse than mere nonfeasance in the cases of white victims.
Holder or his political hacks proactively intervened to REVERSE the final judgment in the Black Panther voter intimidation case.
When leftist hacks go out of their way to protect and defend black racist intimidation by members of a black racist organization they're no better than the low-rent punks they're running interference for.
JC| 2.4.11 @ 10:25AM
Lets just spread a little sunshine and take a look at the allocations and be done with it or not depending on what is found. No, we want to call each other names and stay divided; makes no sense to me. Upon looking at these allocations it appears rational citizens want and explanation of why persons could stand in front of a voting station with "clubs" and go unchallenged; they are on the record/tape/camera AND so are several of the same party challenging them. Politicians WORK FOR US and we choose to let them think they are our boss by in fighting just because we have different point s of view. Why?
vladdy| 2.4.11 @ 6:25PM
False comparision. Christian theology does not call for worldwide world with the subjagation or death of others. islam does.
WAKE UP| 2.5.11 @ 10:33PM
One day Holder will be the one in the dock.
NoNotAgain| 2.8.11 @ 1:45AM
Please B HONEST. I have a problem with your 2) dragged its feet for 16 months on a rather simple internal investigation-LOL your joking rite? Bush Jr outed a CIA operative, lied us into war yet Scooter is the only one to get pardoned jail time. BTW what role did Bush Jr play didnt he drop the charges however someone was charged in that case. But why didnt the ppl frightened file a civil lawsuit? Imagine how ppl felt getting biten by dogs hit by billyclubs and you complain about a person standing in front of a building. Reverse intimidation wo the terror and violence still doesnt look pretty huh? Silly whiney fake Christian Americans. Get over yourself. Look at this mess your folks have caused thinking only of self and your false superiority complex.
Abu Nudnik| 2.8.11 @ 2:03PM
Crimes are the work of police and criminal courts, not civil courts. A rape victim doesn't have to file a civil suit to furnish proof of a rape nor would such a filing constitute evidence; police may not decide whether or not they will investigate and bring that victim's rapist to justice. The DOJ similarly has no legal authority to decide whether or not to charge criminals: it's their job.
Abu Nudnik| 2.8.11 @ 1:44PM
Absolutely correct! If blacks have only 20% of the population, that's not fair. They should be given 5 votes for every white person for there to be true equality. That's where affirmative action thinking leads. And it's where the DOJ is headed in its policies.
jackie cox| 2.20.11 @ 1:44AM
Affirmative action in government has a similar effect to affirmative action in city-county-state-and federal positions that require specific qualifications. When the jobs are filled based on skin color, the integrity of the job suffers. Like the attorney general ignoring the thousands of election fraud compliant surfacing in the 2008 presidential elections, has led us into the most negative political climate for more than 70 years.
While pages of abnormal legislation could be listed---just the one---committing sodomy on the US Military exposes a government no longer fit to serve our nation, and the sooner it is removed the better chances we have of survival
Christian Louboutin| 6.23.11 @ 5:10AM
These conclusions arise from the accumulated weight of evidence in what should be a broadening scandal emanating from the infamous New Black Panther Party voter-intimidation case
العاب بنات| 4.11.12 @ 4:04PM
Mike, what do you think happened to all those racist Southern Democrats? 95% of them became racist Southern Republicans. When the South switched from faithfully Democratic to faithfully Republican, what did you think happened?