The American Spectator

The Bishop| 1.20.11 @ 6:27AM

Our external enemies must watch the de-masculination of our public culture and think, "What a nation of wusses! Nothing to fear here."

Deborah D| 1.20.11 @ 11:06AM

As a woman, I'm sickened and saddened by what liberalism has done to men. I should qualify that by saying "some men." Most women I know don't want their men to be feminized versions of men. Men and women, stand against this ridiculousness. Cultural Marxism keeps winning the day when political correctness (also known as insanity) trumps common sense and masculinity.

loulou| 1.20.11 @ 11:25AM

Poor John King has been castrated. How embarassing for him. Since he stays at CNN, he must like it.

A.M. Mallett| 1.20.11 @ 1:08PM

He never had balls to begin with.

vanzorge| 1.20.11 @ 11:50AM

deb - i absolutely agree with you!!

Lynn| 1.20.11 @ 12:05PM

I, too, agree. I have watched my brother turn into a wuss as he moved from a conservative to a liberal philosophy. Then I started thinking about it and realized I can't think of one liberal man who isn't a wuss. Scary.

LArry| 1.20.11 @ 2:27PM

So right Lynn. Liberal men are ball-less, spineless wastes who would like nothing more than to be able to wear a dress, nightgown, pumps and not be ridiculed for crying in public all the time in attempts to show how sennnnnnnsitive they are.

They probably spend all of their time watching Lifetime TV too. :-)

Larry Linn| 1.20.11 @ 7:27PM

I was shot while three other members of my squad and I went to assist a helicopter that was shot down in the rice paddies below Nui Ba Dihn on January 4, 197o. Members of my platoon were conservatives, moderates, and liberals. We were a team, and when the bullets and mortars were striking us, the political opinions did not matter!

JF| 1.20.11 @ 7:19PM

Not only are liberal men wussified, they are also mysogynists. Look at the way these "men" joke about raping, punching or otherwise harming Sarah Palin. I really believe that liberal men see women in general as a castrating enemy and will do whatever it takes to keep one (Hillary Clinton included) from ever reaching a position of power, even when that woman is the best man for the job. A liberal man will never stand up to an Islamic terrorist or an intrusive government that seeks to steal what is left of his individuality and freedom, but he will be happy to beat down a woman.

Alan Brooks| 1.20.11 @ 9:05PM

"Not only are liberal men wussified, they are also mysogynists. Look at the way these "men" joke about raping, punching or otherwise harming Sarah Palin."

So maybe they are real men after all.

Nicholas Wind| 1.20.11 @ 12:20PM

You are bang on which is why
I wanted to add to what you said...
very accurately I must say.
You are correct about the feminization of men for the last 40 years or so.
I'm in Toronto Canada (San Francisco lite)
and we just kicked out our marxist major and his crewout for a conservative business man.
This is driving the PC and feminists crazy.
I love it and want to see more of this.
The truth is the majority of us in N.A. are
conservative and Christian.
But as you say Cultural Marxism is promoted very strongly by the elitists and main stream media who are run by the same type of folks.

Appleby| 1.20.11 @ 4:57PM

Yo, bro! Greetings from High Park. We kicked out our NDP (socialist) council member -- Sondercook -- and the idiots elected ANOTHER NDP socialist -- Doucette, who has vowed to fight Rob Ford tooth and nail. I tried to engage her in a discussion but she could not understand words.

Robert | 1.20.11 @ 3:07PM

I could not agree more. I do not watch much TV or DVDS but last week under the weather and bored to tears I watched two DVDs the only ones available. I am a bit ashamed to say that I watched Iron Man II and Robin Hood.

In Iron Man the hero tycoon and creator of the suit that saved the world is effeminate, speaks glibly, skipping from one subject to another, is having emotional problems and is basically led by the nose by a beautiful, extremely intelligent female red head who obviously is a lot smarter than our male hero. It seems the hero was always trying to get in touch with his inner child.

The second female, perhaps 21, sexy and intelligent, she has a law degree, has probably devoted her life from age three to the practice of an arcane martial art. In a fight scene while a man fights it out for five minutes with a single opponent, and for the most part getting the worst of it, our young lady beats, knocks out or ties up in a cord suspended from the ceiling, about 10 men this, with incredibly swift and camera assisted moves-- and without so much as messing up her mascara or raising a bit of honest sweat. She is like the female CEO, far superior to these pathetically effeminate men.

Crowe plays Robin Hood and of course he does his share of killing in a sort of passive way. He is so softly spoken and passive one can hardly hear what he has to say. Lady Marion, however, in an excellent character presentation I must say, exhibited courage, defiance, and even such great swords play that had the performance been given by a man he would be hailed for his masculinity. While one may argue that Crowe was masculine too, still, he seemed more troubled, sensitive and emotional. He did not project the honest masculinity that he did in Gladiator. He was,what California's former governor might refer to as a "girlie boy."

BackToBasics| 1.21.11 @ 12:04AM

And look how often it is portrayed in movies that a woman can knock out white males with a single punch. Or if its not that then they can outshoot a white male or are better at swordfighting, etc.

One way or another, someday this "experiment" in trashing white men will come to an end. I just hope it does not have to come to an end through the fall of the country to war, civil war, foreign power occupation etc.

Sierra| 1.20.11 @ 12:14PM

Wusses carry handguns.

Fred | 1.20.11 @ 12:45PM

Only a liberal nitwit would say that.

Fred | 1.20.11 @ 12:46PM

Only a liberal nitwit would say that.

Ray Burke| 1.20.11 @ 12:58PM

Wusses NEED handguns!

A.M. Mallett| 1.20.11 @ 1:09PM

For you folks, we just carry bats.

robert Williams| 1.20.11 @ 2:17PM

sierra your so right that especially goes for the croked cops some chicken dropping,s Sheriffs that dont uphold the Constatutional rights of the American people as well as the F B I and the Cia U S Marshels and Obamas Fbi Or Fags In Action

Serge Baruch| 1.20.11 @ 5:24PM

Rep. Glifford owns a Glock too. She'd just forgot it that unfortunate day at her grand piano.

Alan Brooks| 1.20.11 @ 3:55PM

Them lib'rals have ruined this great country of ours. It started with the fluoridation of our precious bodily fluids in 1946.
1946! how is that for a postwar Communist conspiracy?
Second, they took prayer out from the schools, now they are trying force our children to smoke mary-jew-wanna.
It's that Hanoi Jane Fonda, who went to Vietnam and took off all her clothes.
Then Ho Chi Minh danced the loop de loop
Point is, the Beatles have destroyed the world forever with their faggoty haircuts (that is, hair that is not cut) and now the Auntie-Christ is coming to take us away, to force us to eat granola (which is laced with heroin) and listen to Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band, a drug-album produced by that faggoty Brian Epstein.

The solution is to round up these longhaired musicians and their ilk, remove them to concentrations camps, and torture then with cattle prods.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 5:48PM

Pssst. Alan. Hate to interrupt your very, very clever inverted humor, but your slip is showing.

Perhaps a quick trip to the powder room is in order.

Say hi to the rest of the gals for me, won't you?

Alan Books| 1.20.11 @ 5:54PM

"Say hi to the rest of the gals for me, won't you?"

Well, alrighty. So you'd rather me talk to the gals? you prefer the company of men?

MarkR| 1.20.11 @ 8:40PM

Wow! This thread is freaky weird. This guy Brooks is caught and resorts to inverted humor which is as flat as can be. The liberals NEVER admit when they are beat. Logic plays no part when one's ideology trumps common sense. The left has become a buffoonish GaryLarson cartoon- which reveals that all facts will be disposed of until I (we) find the ones that fit our template. I remember arguing with liberals 30 years ago and staying in the realm of sanity and now even that hallowed virtue has been abandoned for purposes of power and intimidation. When Bush was president you could encourage his assasination and say he should die and say you hate him and you were considered only a participant in 1st amendment expression. Now as the conservatives ascend using military terminology is tantamount to murder. Reason and logic RIP.

Alan Brooks| 1.20.11 @ 9:16PM

"MarkR| 1.20.11 @ 8:40PM
Wow! This thread is freaky weird. This guy Brooks is caught and resorts to inverted humor which is as flat as can be. The liberals NEVER admit when they are beat. Logic plays no part' dem librals, dem librals, dem commie faggot librals who are freaky weird;
when Bush was president they disposed of all the facts like Gary Trudeau abandoning the hallowed virtue of sanity, denying us the joys of military terminology to crush the homo erectus of faggotry,
who deceived even the Elect: Rock Hudson.

Sanity RIP in the buffoonish age of that community disorganizer Evil Marxist-Negro, the Obama Po-jama who would reject our 1st Amendment rights.

MarkR| 1.21.11 @ 2:00AM

There is help out there.

Serge Baruch| 1.20.11 @ 5:54PM

Fine parody, Alan. And very true to the genre's tenets, the most important of which is to use some grains of reality in a sarcastic way.

In your case, these are the concentration camps for any dissenters, not only for longhaired musicians.

The left had them in Vietnam (another grain of truth - Hanoi Jane visited them, and couldn't see anything wrong), in Soviet Union (socialist Bernard Shaw had visited them long before Hanoi Jane went to Nam, and haven't seen any prisoners, too); the disciple of the left "philosopher" Jean-Paul Sartre who chose his idol's name for his well known nom de guerre, Pol Pot, upgraded camps to killing fields in Cambodia; the lefts' favourite underwear brand, to wit, T-shirt image Compañero Guevara, had his mini-fields in Havana Central Prison when he became its Comandante. You surely know this Spanish word - one of the Hollywood champagne r-r-r-revolutionaries Oliver Stone chose it as title for his... er... documentary about Fidel Castro. Shall I tell that he, too, didn't notice any violence against dissenters in Cuba?

So yes, a lot of truth in your parody. The only lie and brazen lie to that - is when you try to pin the torture, death, and slave labour camps on the right. But it doesn't come as surprise, so go ahead. No village without a village idiot, no discussion board without its buffoon.

Alan Brooks| 1.20.11 @ 8:05PM

"Hollywood champagne r-r-r-revolutionaries Oliver Stone"

But didn't Stone redeem himself by doing a sympathetic film on Hitler? a film to demonstrate that, like Che (a physician), Hitler (an artist) had his positive qualities-- as Pat Buchanan to this day realizes.
We try to see the views of others.

Sergew Baruch| 1.21.11 @ 2:20AM

Going positive on Hitler, a national SOCIALIST, Stone just confirmed his own Left-wing credentials.

"Che", BTW, was as much a physician as D-r Mengele of Auschwitz-Birkenau fame, Papa Doc and Baby Doc Duvalier, or Dr Armand Hammer, Lenin's personal friend and NKVD's bag-man for the American Communist party.

No doubt you and Oliver Stone could find positive qualities in all of them.

Melvin| 1.20.11 @ 6:31AM

Hmm, the only thing that seems to come to mind is George Carlin's 11 dirty words. For us old guys, George's eleven dirty words is a, "you have to have been there moment" to appreciate the humor of it.
!!Jesus!! we have some of the most asinine individuals calling themselves journalists, nowadays.

jothepro| 1.20.11 @ 8:35AM

Melvin,
I must predate you. The original routine was " THE SEVEN WORDS YOU CAN'T SAY ON TV"

Louis Jenkins| 1.20.11 @ 5:10PM

As I read your e-mail I was just thinking of that.

LTW| 1.20.11 @ 6:32AM

Doesn't CNN have a program called "Crossfire"? OMG, they'll have to shelve it or retitle it .Any suggestions, John?

LTC Ray Burke| 1.20.11 @ 1:10PM

How about Misfire?

Anthony| 1.20.11 @ 1:24PM

Or maybe, Shooting Blanks.

Larry| 1.20.11 @ 2:30PM

How about CNN presents "Two Lines That Form A "T" When Crossed".

They might have a problem with that though as mentioning "cross" could be construed as endorsing that most evil of religions and they'd lose whatever remaining small audience they have.

dw| 1.20.11 @ 2:42PM

or "Impotent Analysis"

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 1.20.11 @ 6:37AM

You make some good points. The only thing in the crosshairs (OOOPS!) since this incident occurred is the truth.

Contrast this incident where six citizens were murdered to the incident at Ft. Hood, Texas where a member of the military shot and killed 13 fellow soldiers.

Talk about taking out our first line of defense. And what became of Major Hasan? You don't see the press writing about him because in fact he's one of their heroes.

Major Hasan did what each and every member of the state run press and many Democrats would like to do and that's slap the military down or destroy it.

Ironically Major Hasan attended Virginia Tech, another little fact the press doesn't like to refer or discuss. Virginia Tech was the scene of another killing spree by another minority.

By the way Major Hasan's education was paid for entirely by the taxpayer and at each level.
His way of saying thanks was to murder 13 soldiers.

As a result of the shooting there has been a debate as to whether Major Hasan is a terrorist or not. Eric Holder refuses to say of course because Eric Holder and many other top officials at the Justice Department used to represent those types. What follows is from several credible sources.

Prior to Hasan's murder spree Hasan had come to the attention of federal authorities at least six months before the attacks, because of internet postings he appeared to have made discussing suicide bombings and other threats, though authorities did not at the time definitively tie the postings to him. The postings, made in the name "NidalHasan," likened a suicide bomber to a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to save his colleagues, and sacrifices his life for a "more noble cause." No official investigation was opened.

Hasan was investigated by the FBI after intelligence agencies intercepted at least 18 e-mails between him and al-Awlaki between December 2008 and June 2009. Even before the contents of the e-mails were revealed, terrorism expert Jarret Brachman said that Hasan's contacts with al-Awlaki should have raised "huge red flags". According to Brachman, al-Awlaki is a major influence on radical English-speaking jihadis internationally.

In one of the e-mails, Hasan wrote al-Awlaki: "I can't wait to join you" in the afterlife. Hasan also asked al-Awlaki when jihad is appropriate, and whether it is permissible if innocents are killed in a suicide attack. In the months before the shooting, Hasan increased his contacts with al-Awlaki to discuss how to transfer funds abroad without coming to the attention of law authorities.

A DC-based Joint Terrorism Task Force operating under the FBI was notified of the e-mails, and the information was reviewed by one of its Defense Criminal Investigative Service personnel. Army employees were informed of the e-mails, but did not perceive any terrorist threat in Hasan's questions. Instead, they viewed them as general questions about spiritual guidance with regard to conflicts between Islam and military service, and judged them to be consistent with legitimate mental health research about Muslims in the armed services

ABC News reported that officials were aware that Hasan had attempted to contact Al Qaeda,[56] and that Hasan had "more unexplained connections to people being tracked by the FBI" than just Anwar al-Awlaki.

The real question here is why after 9/11 was the government so incompetent in following up on these threats and probable cause?

You could look at Dupnik (Appropriate named unless you want to call him Dopenik) and see why. He failed to follow up on numerous death threats made by Laughner and then went on to blame the incident in Tucson on everyone else.

After the Ft. Hood shootings, al-Awlaki praised Hasan's actions:

Nidal Hassan is a hero. He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people.... Any decent Muslim cannot live, understanding properly his duties towards his Creator and his fellow Muslims, and yet serve as a US soldier. The U.S. is leading the war against terrorism which in reality is a war against Islam....

And that may explain why the press is roundly condemning Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, et al. It's because they consider Laughner a sort of anti-hero in the Catcher in the Rye sense and that's precisely why they can't focus on him.

Instead of focusing on Dupnik's incompetency and Laughner's mental illness, they would rather side track the issue because in fact the state run media loves the Laughners and Hasans of the world.

In both cases the government could have easily prevented the incidents. But because the truth is always in the crosshairs due to political correctness or other political motivations the nation viewed two tragedies from two nuts who had given plenty of forewarning.

vanzorge| 1.20.11 @ 11:54AM

bill - excellent comparison and contrasting of the two events.

tibby| 1.20.11 @ 12:48PM

Bingo! This travesty has got to stop.

Clint| 1.20.11 @ 6:52AM

This is a plastic, bogus & pathetic attempt by The Liberal Democrats & The Liberal Mainstream Media to obstruct & marginalize The Tea Party Rebellion One of Our Kingmakers & Our Media Allies.

Our Tea Party Response: " NUTS! "

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.

Rise Up In Rebellion.

Carpe Diem.

richard ryan| 1.20.11 @ 8:59AM

Nice Bastogne reference! McAuliffe would be proud.

JimH| 1.20.11 @ 9:23AM

If I recall correctly the generals actual word was not 'nuts'. Kinda ironic actually.

Clint| 1.20.11 @ 1:26PM

When McAuliffe heard that he laughed and said: "Us surrender? Aw, nuts!"

Clint| 1.20.11 @ 1:28PM

To Follow up,the written formal response was then shortened to " Nuts ".

Occam's Tool| 1.20.11 @ 2:21PM

And then it was explained for the Germans as "Go to Hell."

jimH| 1.20.11 @ 4:22PM

Following the replies to my comment I did a bit of research. Seems the general did say 'nuts' or something close. I had earlier been given to understand that this was the cleaned up reply to be used for public consumption.

skip| 1.20.11 @ 1:27PM

The enemy of the United States that is liberalism must be destroyed.

The abuse of the constitutional rights of Americans must be vanquished.

The corruption of Christianity in society must be defeated.

The complete lack of intelligence of anything relating to liberalism must be demolished.

The utter lack of honesty of anything relating to liberalism must be eradicated.

The bipartisanship that allowed the current state of the nation to exist must be killed.

The theft of private property must be conquered.

The opposition to free speech must be ruined.

The murder of the unborn must be exterminated.

Liberalism must be attacked, targeted, assailed, shot down, stormed, bombarded, and razed until its very existence is a thing of the past.

The words of the author of the Declaration of Independence must be kept in mind: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants from time to time; it is its natural fertilizer."

This assault on liberalism does not reflect the opinions of CNN; CNN further disclaims any relation to common sense whatsoever; CNN reserves the right to avoid any common sense, intelligence, and/or honesty, in perpetuity.

Appleby| 1.20.11 @ 6:57AM

From what I have observed, virtually all those words are being easily replaced by some variation of f**k or s**t. Take those two words away from the average liberal and he or she would not be able to speak at all.

Gary| 1.20.11 @ 7:39AM

I recall a cartoon that had a voice making the following announcement to a television audience following a sitcom: “The previous performance was filmed before a live audience of trained seals.” Now, that was funny. “A cadre of trained seals” seems to be a perfect description of today’s so-called journalists.

Curly Smith| 1.20.11 @ 8:09AM

What the shooting really showed is that the best way to garner a lot of attention is to shoot a CongressCritter. The narrative should have been "whack job", "demented loser", "pathetic pot-head", "despicable anti-social behavior", and any other descriptions that would marginalize the shooter. Instead, he's a victim/hero. Any attack on a Republican or Tea Partier is now fully justifiable. Why it's as if the media wants more shootings... how much more blood will the Democrats have on their hands? Oh well, eggs/omelets and all that.

Brian Mc| 1.20.11 @ 9:16AM

"...biggest bag of salt..." Not quite the metaphor I have in mind. I'm sure that the ignoramusses who are given two votes at election time don't perceive it that way.

Richard Baker| 1.20.11 @ 9:28AM

What could be expected from folks who are graduates (hopefully) of Schools of Journalism? Seems that their cognition is on par with graduates (!?!) of Schools of Education.

JP| 1.20.11 @ 10:24AM

I much prefer the days when members of Congress use to beat each other silly in the well. Can't imagine any of our effette metrosexuals who server there (outside of the few former military) doing anything so entertaining and important.

Anthony| 1.20.11 @ 10:32AM

Can we finally stop pretending we can have any rational conversations with the left? The insanity that flows daily out of their mouths is breathtaking to behold; a psychiatrist's dream come true.
From the MSM blaming Sarah Palin and talk radio, to Debbie Wasserman Shultz, the moronic leftist congresswoman from Florida, who insists that no action be taken on repeal of Obamacare until Rep. Giffords is fully recovered, to Rep. Cohen (D) of Tenn. who compares any of us who call Obamacare national health care, Nazi's, there is no REASONING with these people.
The MSM head up the morally and intellectually bankrupt component of the loony left, let's just stop pretending we can out shout them or demand any degree of professionalism from them.
There is nothing more to be said, it's like talking to a brick wall, let's just get the job done, if they don't like it, T.S.

DL| 1.20.11 @ 12:13PM

I see, it's your way or the highway.

Anthony| 1.20.11 @ 1:26PM

Nope, it's sanity v. insanity.

DL| 1.20.11 @ 5:22PM

And your credentials for making such a judgement are?

Srge Baruch| 1.20.11 @ 6:07PM

Will a certificate given by Major Hasan in his better days do?

DL| 1.21.11 @ 5:30PM

Can't imagine why you would suggest him. Oh, that's right, he's a religious conservative.

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 4:44PM

Yup. Slash and burn the federal government. Deplete them of financial resources. Put the fair tax in. Get rid of any public funding for public unions, eliminate the EPA, FCC, NEA (both of them), the IRS, SS, all of it. Turn back the clock on the nanny state to pre-FDR days and watch collectivism die. Oops! Sorry! I mean retire.

The Big E| 1.20.11 @ 11:30AM

Just a couple of thoughts:

1. If CNN is going to eliminate "war" references from their coverage, how exactly do they intend to cover war?

2. If they just want to eliminate all "violent" metaphors, will they be eliminating football or boxing metaphors as well?

Tim| 1.20.11 @ 11:45AM

Politics in a welfare state is merely the waging of lowgrade civil war. The bitterness and anger many feel towards "their" government is appropriate. The American System is an oligarchy ruled by governmental and financial elites. This much has been made clear since the economic collapse of 2008 and the bailouts that soon followed. People get really pissed off when you rip them off. I'm not suggesting the gunman in Tucson had any identifiabel political motivations nor that his actions were in anyway justified. But if want to know why someone might resort to violence, you should ask yourself who is the biggest purveyor of violence on the planet.

Marco| 1.20.11 @ 11:49AM

A short while ago, Senator Carl Levin (Far Left-MI) had his mug washed with a cream pie. In his case, a definite improvement in his looks, and certainly child-friendly. All power to pie-toting devotees of the Food Channel!

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 11:52AM

A mentally ill man without affordable health care watches Sarah Palin put a rifle scope crosshair on a government official, declare "Reload, don't retreat!", and when the guy shoots - there is no correlation.

Right, that sums them well.

vanzorge| 1.20.11 @ 11:59AM

kelly - i'm a bit confused by your post....... do you know the shooter personally? otherwise, how do you know what healthcare he had, and whether or not he ever watched sarah palin?

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 12:40PM

vanzorge, your first question seems to assume the shooter's US health care served him well.

Concerning Palin, most would agree it's just very unlikely that a shooter hasn't watched her.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 1:02PM

"Most" would agree? Gee, Kelly, what facts do you have to back this up? Let me guess: Lawrence O'Donnell asserted it with great smugness. Or was it Ed Schultz?

Sweetheart, a presumption is not a fact. A blind assertion is not an argument.

For example, I happen to know for a fact that most would agree that Kelly is incorrigibly promiscuous and has had several embarrassing STDs.

Most would agree that kelly has a nasty Oxycodone habit, too.

Truth be told, most would also agree that that Kelly is a serial shoplifter and has embezzled thousands of dollars from the charity she volunteers for.

And I think we know that most would agree that Kelly herself has been a blood-sucking parasite on the government dole since 2002.

Kelly, what do you have to say for yourself, you promiscuous, drug-addled, thieving welfare mother?

Ugh. your kind disgusts me.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 1:12PM

I'm a Republic.

Fact remains, in the real world of cause and effect, America would rather go Afro-American than risk a 'rouge' chance of Bush's 2008 in 2009, 2010, 2011..

Steve A| 1.20.11 @ 1:18PM

kelly, The truth is that the Obama experiment is already over. Hope you have enjoyed. The Republic did a 180 in November on your idol. The Rebublicans could roll out a tin can in 2012 & take it down. Just watch.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 1:31PM

Wow, you're a Republic?

I'm a monarchy, myself.

Can you help me out and tell me what a "rouge" is? I don't speak moron.

Occam's Tool| 1.20.11 @ 2:22PM

I speak psychotic, Mr. G---I believe that she was trying to say "rogue."

Anthony| 1.20.11 @ 2:58PM

Grzmlyk, You're a planet buddy!!!
Grzmlyk is Earth and kelly is Uranus.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 3:14PM

Sadly, Kelly is not the object of my ire.

Its the educated liberals that drive me nuts - you'd think they'd know better. But it just goes to show that vanity is a far more seductive mistress than logic.

Anthony| 1.20.11 @ 3:00PM

Occam's, I just love bilingual conservatives.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 3:12PM

Hi, Occam.

I thought of that, but unless I'm missing something, a "rogue chance of Bush's 2008" doesn't mean anything either.

I fear we are hopelessly lost in the miasma of Kelly's mind.

If nature abhors a vacuum, how does one explain Kelly?

It would be sad if it weren't so malignant.

Larry| 1.20.11 @ 2:32PM

I'm a dictatorship. If I could only get into power here for a year, I'd have the USA back to number 1.

skip| 1.20.11 @ 3:09PM

Larry is on to something.

Democracy's inherent flaw is there is no guarantee the majority will hold the correct solution. Witness the United States of America circa 2008-2010, or circa 1933-2011 for that matter.

The ideal form of government may very well be a benevolent dictatorship. Think King Solomon of the Bible. Or, The Lord God Almighty.

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 4:55PM

We need an interpreter. Where the hell is Alan? At least he's entertaining in his irrelevant rants.

Jacobite| 1.20.11 @ 1:31PM

Gotta admit BHO turned out a lot better than most black leaders. How'd you like to be White House chef under Idi Amin Dada?

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 1:50PM

"A mentally ill man without affordable health care watches Sarah Palin put a rifle scope crosshair on a government official, declare "Reload, don't retreat!", and when the guy shoots - there is no correlation."

Clearly, it states there was NO correlation. YOUR logic and and conscience rightly found offense.

Larry| 1.20.11 @ 3:50PM

Comrade Golfer is only half black (I think his other half is red). Thus, he's only half as bad as Idi, I think.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 4:59PM

Again:
Rep. Gifford's medical coverage is exhausted - what do you do?

Name calling(congrads - lock'n load) solves nothing. America's health care costs 17% GDP and 120 uninsured Americans die unnecessarily daily. Universal health care nations average 11% GDP costs, yet have longer lifespans.

One can get to work in a used car, 1/10th the new car price. Where's 1/10th price medical care? A healthy nation is a better defense(and cheaper) than occupying other nations.

The reloader's own college wouldn't let him attend. As more Americans are neglected, do you really think this was the last reload?

Again, if Rep. Gifford's medical coverage is exhausted - what do you do?

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 4:53PM

Loughner is white you idiot. Is that all you morons on the left have? The race card?! In a situation that involves not ONE black person? Didn't they close that coolaid stand yet?

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 4:51PM

Dude. Seriously. That went so far over her head she didn't even see it.

Dai Alanye| 1.20.11 @ 1:50PM

kelly is operating in ignorance. Schizophrenia is not a curable disease, nor are most treatments for it very effective. The issue of health care, affordable or not, is entirely off the point.

As far as Loughner's watching Palin, kelly seems to be claiming the ability to read minds, since the testimony of Loughner's acquaintances indicates a disinterest in partisan political matters. He has a general tilt to the left, but even that seems to have had no effect on his choice of targets.

So what I'm suggesting for kelly is, that he/she/it acquire a few facts before commenting.

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 4:48PM

Mom and dad payed for it all. He was still at home, and his parents covered most, if not all of his expenses. Try putting your leftist health care spin on that. I know, I know. Don't allow me to confuse you with the facts.

Charie| 1.23.11 @ 8:52PM

Wow, Kelly, you must get all your exercise leaping to conclusions.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 12:45PM

Kelly, sweetie, you are cukoo for Coco-Puffs.

Of course, it's ok for the left to have blatantly called for Bush's assassination. Or for lefties to routinely call for Rush Limbaugh or Dick Cheney to die violent, ugly deaths. That's free speech.

But put the image of a crosshair on an election map? For shame. That is tantamount to murder.

Unless, of course, you're a Democrat. Then it's just a campaign tactic.

After all, it was the Clinton adminstration's reelection team that named their meeting place "The War Room." Thank GOD it wasn't a Republican who did that.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Kelly: A pristine example of the modern leftist, a species that has turned in on itself to the extent that it can no longer survive in the real world of cause and effect.

And does not deserve to.

That's not a threat. That's evolution.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 1:04PM

..Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Grzmlyk: A pristine example of the modern rightist, a species that cheers the 8 year Bush summary - 2008: unending debt, war, and "Global Financial Meltdown".

In the real world of cause and effect, America would rather go Afro-American than risk a 'rouge' chance of Bush's 2008 in 2009, 2010, 2011..

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 1:27PM

"Afro American?" It's 2011, Kelly.

Thank you for reading my mind and telling me what I think of Bush's eight years. Really, there is no end to your perspicacity, is there?

Of course that's only because there's no beginning, either, but let's not quibble.

BTW, why doesn't your messiah stop the war in Afghanistan - or Iraq? Why hasn't the great one closed Gitmo? What's that? Silence?

In the REAL world, I don't care that he's black - and he IS half white, is he not? I care that he's a Marxist - which I know you find sexy and terribly cool. But in the real world, Marxism is destructive.

And its manifestation in practice happens to be socialism - which can ONLY survive off of the profits made by evil capitalists. See how that works? That means it's self-destructive. Because once it wrings out all the profits of all the companies, there's no more blood to suck.

Which is why there was no bread to eat in the Soviet Union even though it had the largest tract of farmland on the planet.

And you know who you can blame for the financial meltdown? Your heroes on the left who wanted to put people into homes they couldn't afford - at any cost. For political gain. So they could keep people like you intoxicated on government goodies so you'll keep voting Democrat and keep them in power.

In any case, your last sentence shows that you don't understand what cause and effect are. You see, "America would rather go Afro-American" is an OPINION. It has nothing to do with "cause and effect."

Although, come to think of it, you may have a point - Obama was elected because he's black, wasn't he? It sure wasn't his qualifications.

Just so you understand, I'll help you out with an illustration. Cause and effect is this: Putting millions of people into homes with artificially low teaser rates for mortgages CAUSED them to default once the rates were reset to reflect the real world - not the phony world of political demagoguery, which is where you obviously occupy all of your time.

Effect: Financial Meltdown

Cause: Putting people into homes they couldn't afford.

See how that works?

Reality: Acquaint yourself with it.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 1:40PM

"You see, "America would rather go Afro-American" is an OPINION. It has nothing to do with "cause and effect.""

I was referring to a presidential election. Those are the things without chads.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 1:51PM

Actually, presidential elections DO have chads.

Hence the blowhard Al Gore's bogus claim to have won the 2000 election.

As for our piece of shit in chief's election, I don't know what your ballot said, but mine didn't offer a choice between "the black guy" and "the white guy."

But you're a liberal, so it's ok to see people only in terms of race.

But that's STILL not cause and effect. You really don't know anything, do you?

Psssst: Bush didn't run for president in 2008.

Lexa| 1.20.11 @ 1:53PM

Kelly, do you mean "rogue?" If not, what does "rouge" chance mean? Is that some new liberalspeak?

Actually, wasn't Mrs. Palin's symbol a surveyor's symbol, not a target or cross hair?

Steve A| 1.20.11 @ 12:49PM

kelly, A mentally ill person without any facts posts on TAS under the name "kelly" suggesting that conservative opposition to Obamacare & Sara Palin are to blame for the Arizona shooter & when the rest of us laugh at the idiocy - there is direct correlation.

Right, that sums up the Left well.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 1:34PM

Steve, you know nothing of me or my Honorable Discharge from the US Army.

To sum it up, America would rather go Afro-American than risk a 'rouge' chance of Bush's 2008 in 2009, 2010, 2011..

Hopefully, with your logic and Palin Blood Libel, our Nobel laureate President will be able to further govern.

Steve A| 1.20.11 @ 1:40PM

kelly, Thanks for your service, sincerely. You know nothing about the mindset of the shooter yet you assign blame to Palin & lack of "affordable healthcare." I am embarrased for you. You are making an ass of yourself in public.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 1:46PM

What are you, a broken record? Is your inane comment about America rather going Afro-American than risk a "rough" change of Bush the extent of your political discourse?

And you saySteve knows nothing of you or your honorable discharge - but your own ignorance doesn't prevent YOU from making sweeping generalizations and conclusions.

But that's the left all over: A double standard.

Kelly, I have to say this in all seriousness: After reading your posts, I believe you are too stupid to continue a conversation with. Or operate a heavy vehicle. Or type. Or hold down a job.

In fact, you're too damned stupid to do anything on this planet.

Except vote Democrat.

Steve A| 1.20.11 @ 1:58PM

Grzmlyk, Frustrating, I know. I swear, there are times when you feel like you have a shot at a rational conversation with a liberal & there are these. I firmly believe that Obama could come out tomorrow, make a speech & reveal himself as the Anti-Christ & get a standing O from kelly & company. Probably 30% would still vote for him. The facts are irrelevant to these people.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 2:34PM

Thanks, Steve A - I agree with you completely. In Obama's case - since he's a member of the very hightest victim group you can be in in America - he could say anything and be praised to the skies.

I have learned that there are three kinds of liberals, and only three:

Fools, crooks and pawns.

The fools are the college students, the ignorant and the vanity-intoxicated "Good," "evolved" people - academicians, celebrities, artitsts and "journalists" - who honestly believe that if we all hold hands and wish hard enough - or just apply enough coercion to the problem people - we can change human nature (or at least the human nature of OTHERS; they always somehow exempt themselves) such that we will all live in eternal bliss for the "common good" - i.e., the State.

The crooks are the politicians, businessmen and assorted knaves who exploit the vanity of the Good for their own power. That would be people like Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Al Gore, lobbyists, party apparatchiks, faceless bureaucrats and entire companies like Viacom, Goldman Sachs and GE. And, sadly, now Wal-Mart, who finally has gotten its "mind right" and has learned that it's more profitable to go along with the false consciousness of liberalism than to stand up for the truth. These are the people who stir up the class envy and manufacture - and then balkanize - various victim groups and pretend that "social justice" is the highest form of human expression when what they are really doing is either solidifying their hold on power or lining their own pockets - or both.

The pawns are people like Kelly - insensate, inchoate, stupid and ignorant, they just see the goodies that are being handed out by Big Government and they want to be in the receiving line. They're happy to vote Democrat as long as they get theirs. They're too dumb to realize they're being kept dumb in order to make others rich.

There is no other kind of liberal.

Deborah D| 1.20.11 @ 4:18PM

Most excellent, as usual, Grzmlyk. I hope you're saving all of these brilliant observations for your book. And, if you haven't thought of a book, you should, or at least a blog. Thanks for your always enlightening essays.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 5:56PM

Deborah, the feeling is mututal! I always enjoy your posts.

Thank you.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 2:11PM

.."A mentally ill man without affordable health care watches Sarah Palin[don't forget her TV show] put a rifle scope crosshair on a government official, declare "Reload, don't retreat!", and when the guy shoots - there is no correlation."

"..walks like,..talks like", but don't like the word 'correlation'? Some say, "Methinks thou dost protest too much."

Occam's Tool| 1.20.11 @ 2:25PM

That is correct---there is no correlation. He wanted to kill people for psychotic reasons; there is no indication that he read about Palin's crosshairs map since he was apolitical. Chance of your supposition holding up in court---zero.

Steve A| 1.20.11 @ 2:36PM

kelly, Yawn, you still here?? Even the media wackos on the Hard Left have quit beating this drum as they realized how small the argument makes them look, yet you persist. You are persuading none. You are merely talking to yourself.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 3:23PM

Steve-ish, Rep. Gifford's medical coverage is exhausted - what do you do?

Your name calling solves nothing. America's health care costs 17% GDP and 120 uninsured Americans die unnecessarily daily. Universal health care nations average 11% GDP costs, yet have longer lifespans.

One can get to work in a used car, 1/10th the new car price. Where's 1/10th price medical care? A healthy nation is better defense(and cheaper) than occupying other nation.

The reloader's own college wouldn't let him attend. As we neglect more of our own, do you really think this was the last reload?

Again, if Rep. Gifford's medical coverage is exhausted - what do you do?

JeffW| 1.20.11 @ 2:48PM

Kelly, That wouldn't be a medical discharge for mental insability would it? Those are also honorable discharge. See, unless your kicked out for doing something wrong, you get a honorable discharge. Otherwise its a OTH (other than honorable) or BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge). Thanks for your service but you can't pull that crap around here. Some of us have served as well and are well educated in the smell of BS.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 3:32PM

JeffW, it costs a $million a year to supply a US soldier overseas and your education in the smell of BS certainty seems worth it - whatever discharge.

JeffW| 1.20.11 @ 4:47PM

LOL, your a tool. Yes it cost money to supply a soldier overseas, just as it cost money to supply them in the us. By your math it cost the goverment $20 million to keep me supplied before I retired. I honestly do thank you if you have served but I had many like you serve under me and they only came in to get college and then got out. Nothing wrong with that but it isn't long enough to really open your eyes. I think yours are closed and you will lash out sophmorically against anyone who disagrees with your idol. Fine, that's your right, but you are not proving any points are winning any converts here.

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 3:43PM

I am going to depart from conservative orthodoxy here. I do NOT think we should reflexively thank verterans for their service.

After all, people join the army for a host of reasons, some of which are purely self-serving - a discounted education, get out of trouble, no direction in life, can't get into college, etc.

Most in the military don't even see combat, and many remain in the US or get cushy posts in peaceful areas. They do their minimum stint and get out with a lot more than they went in with.

If somebody joins the army because they genuinely want to serve their country, they deserve our gratitude. But if they join specifically for their own purposes and intend on doing the bare minimum to get out, is that ipso facto an act of nobility worthy of my thanks? I do not think so.

As for Kelly, he/she is starting to sound like somebody who used to post here - Marcell, is that you?

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 4:06PM

..sounds like Jodie..

Vernon | 1.20.11 @ 4:09PM

"our Nobel laureate President will be able to further govern"...
I wasn't going to lower myself to comment about your tripe, kelly, but that is just beyond the pale. He can't "further govern" because he has yet to begin. His agenda, just in case you had not yet noticed, is not to govern but to tear down this country's military, legal system, and morals. 2012 is not that far away, thank goodness. That he will be defeated is certain. I just hope people with common sense will landslide the phony in chief out the door and give.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 5:15PM

Mainly, Republicans and Bush war, imagined WMDs, no-bid contracts, and his 8 of the past 9 budgets lead to the present "peace dividend." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.....tial_terms

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 5:29PM

Confirmed WMDs by former military and intelligence personel that worked directly for Saddam. They also confirmed that those WMDs left the country via air and ground transport prior to the start of our invasion of Iraq. Wow. You were in the military?

Oh, and by the way, the DemocRats in Congress voted to authorize the war too. Only a very small handful voted against. Hypocrites that they are, they then worked to undermine the entire effort after the fact. Just like the did in Vietnam, Korea, Gulf I. Traitors. All of them.

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 5:34PM

Also, I guess the entire Clinton administration "imagined" the WMDs as well, since they not only identified them as a legitimate threat in the '90's, they were in fact making a case for going to war against Saddam to finish what we started under Bush Senior. I like inconvenient details like that are ignored by those of you on the left trying to take cheap shots at those of us on the right. But, of course Clinton is a Democrat, and is to be left alone. Right?

Grzmlyk| 1.20.11 @ 6:00PM

Marcell, what happened to you? You dropped off the map for, what, a year? Were you incarcerated?

And why did you change your name?

Well, the moniker is new, but the logic and the extent of miseducation - well, it's vintage Marcell.

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 5:22PM

You are sort of like John Kerry (who served in Vietnam) in that you think that mentioning your military service will shield you from criticism. The problem being that your non-sensical attempts at linking those of us on the right with the Arizona shootings ignores the painfully obvious fact that the lunatic in question had far more in common with the collectivist hive on the left.

Nick| 1.20.11 @ 2:47PM

Steve A,

Why'd you bug out of the gun debate, from the other day?

You left several of us hanging. Not very polite.

Anthony| 1.20.11 @ 2:38PM

If kelly yells "Sarah Palin" in a crowded theatre, is what Harry Reid says," this war is lost", a true statement?

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 3:38PM

Sorta like "Mission Accomplished" on a carrier deck.

Anthony| 1.20.11 @ 4:18PM

Proof positive my dear that you are indeed a Republic, with a bit too much rouge.
But red does seem to be your color.

The Big E| 1.20.11 @ 3:10PM

Sorry, I was assuming that he was taking the President's advice. You know, the advice about bringing a gun?

Get real.

Brian B| 1.20.11 @ 11:54AM

Six people are murdered by a lone lunatic with no coherent motive save the one provided by the voices in his head and it's a tragedy [it was] that dominates the airwaves and political discourse because it supposedly had vast national import [it didn't].
Meanwhile an abortionist monster murders at least 7 innocent, fully born babies [not to mention thousands of unborn ones] and at least one woman while maiming many more AND it comes to light that the Pennsylvania Dept of Health was fully aware of what he was doing and for political and ideological purposes intentionally ignoring and protecting this evil man and the mayhem he was causing and no one wants to talk about it.

joe| 1.20.11 @ 2:03PM

That is how the Left works. Distractions are the name of the game, the truth is MIA.

Banjo| 1.20.11 @ 12:02PM

John King and the rest of the limp-wristed pussyfooters at CNN are involved, probably unknowingly, in one of the great campaigns of the left. That is to denature the language, rob it of its vividness and power. George Orwell was on to them. He knew that when concrete imagery is replaced by fuzzy vagueness the ability to think clearly is impaired. When that happens, government can get away with all sorts of things. Enhanced revenue is really higher taxes. Man-caused disasters used to be called terrorism. Islam is the religion of peace and tolerance and those who object to its strictures are haters. Let CNN blaze new paths into blandness and inoffensiveness. Nobody is watching anyhow.
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David Thomas| 1.20.11 @ 12:03PM

My scalp felt perturbed, so I had my barber check for cross hairs. I would want a coiffure that excited violence.

Richard Baker| 1.20.11 @ 12:15PM

kelly:
Either your satire is too subtle or you need professional help. Which is it?

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 12:45PM

Dick, as for all Americans, satire is affordable.

Occam's Tool| 1.20.11 @ 2:28PM

Yes, Kelly, but "Comedy is Hard." My Cuz (Sir Jonathan Miller) is a world famous comedian and my dad's best friend's cuz was Shecky Greene. So, let me tell you, you don't have it. Don't give up the day job.

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 3:40PM

Tool, it's agreed that jokes run in your family.

Tom B| 1.20.11 @ 12:44PM

Let's see, if you are in Fla. you go after the liberal politicians with a Key Lime pie. If you are in Mass. then a Boston Cream pie would make a good hit piece. In Cal. a Creme de mint pie with a Toca shell (soft mind you) seems appropriate. Sounds like we are giving them their just deserts.Then again are we allowed to use whipped cream or is that to violent sounding???

doolittle| 1.20.11 @ 12:45PM

the comment "wusses carry hand guns" is the dumbest thing I've heard in years...wusses don't know one end of a gun from the other. And BTW, 31,000 WOMEN got concealed carry licenses in Texas last year...don't call them/us wusses!

Al Adab| 1.20.11 @ 12:48PM

Has anyone contacted the NFL about this issue? Football does afterall have: the blitz, the bomb, war in the trenches, the run and shoot and so on.

Ray| 1.20.11 @ 2:44PM

Don't forget basketball. What will become of "He shoots, he scores!"

Pat Hickey| 1.20.11 @ 12:51PM

John King - He'll never be half the man his mother was!

Stourley Kracklite| 1.20.11 @ 1:07PM

Andrew Cline has provided the fertilizer and, indeed, a hundred turd blossoms did rear their ugly heads.

Nick| 1.20.11 @ 2:21PM

I posted this, yesterday, in another thread:

I love it when liberals get all hot and bothered over language. What's a liberal to do?

It reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry was self-censoring himself because he was dating an American Indian. He stopped himself from using phrases like "Indian giver."

Or, the one where Kramer wouldn't wear the stupid AIDS ribbon, and a bunch of homos beat him up for it.

Those episodes nicely reflect the mentality of the left.

Larry| 1.20.11 @ 2:34PM

John King- Ruler of all bathrooms?

Indy| 1.20.11 @ 2:36PM

Hmm, wonder how CNN will cover he 2012 elections in the "battleground states"

Steve A| 1.20.11 @ 2:45PM

Indy, " Welcome to Crossfire 2012 special election coverage. First up, a Democrat plan of attack targeting battleground states for the 2012 Presidential Election. Obama plans to blitz the Central States region with rapid fire appearances to target vulnerable districts. After emerging from an all day war room meeting with top strategists, Obama is prepared for an all out assault in the last days.... Oh, hold on for breaking news, I have just been fired (sorry, I can't say fored) relieved of duty for misuse of campaign terminology. My apologies." Signing off, Wolf Spritzer (can't say Blitzer)

Dan| 1.20.11 @ 2:48PM

"the left decided that the appropriate response was to rip the nation apart by blaming the tragedy on the right in general and Sarah Palin in particular."

Andrew, really? Reread that sentence one more time. Did that really happen? Or are you just spinning right-wing propaganda?

Can you name for me one liberal MOC or Administration member that "blamed the tragedy on the right in general and Sarah Palin in particular"?

Deborah D| 1.20.11 @ 4:43PM

"the left" = Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, all the media from CNN to MSNBC to the MSM ... to Paul Krugman of the NY Times. I'm sure there are many, many more. Perhaps you should google.

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 5:43PM

I don't think he was hoping for an actual answer. Good job pointing out what he was apparently too lazy to find out for himself.

PulSamsara| 1.20.11 @ 2:55PM

Sarah Palin is a REAL AMERICAN standing up for REAL AMERICANS !

Run Sarah Run ! Sarah for GOP nominee !

your biggest fan-
Mac Hiavellian

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 3:59PM

Run Sarah Run.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMyNk8J1c8g

martin j smith| 1.20.11 @ 4:06PM

There is only one way to deal with the LEFT media's effort to strangle free speech: Stand up to them and NEVER BACK DOWN. DOUBLE DOWN ON YOUR COUNTER ATTACK. Those writers who are cowards should be shunned.

BackToBasics| 1.20.11 @ 11:50PM

I am glad to see it mentioned more often here that leftists will back down when resolutely confronted on their ideas. And when the public sees strong and balanced resolve on the part of conservatives a good % will get behind them; enough so that conservatives will gain a majority in governance in at least the national and state level. Conservatives can also win elections on a local level but in many Democrat cities this still remains elusive.

I hope the Repubs in the House will believe this and act on it accordingly and not worry if they are loved by the media or leftists.

BackToBasics| 1.21.11 @ 12:19AM

To clarify, liberals will back down when resolutely confronted in person or in a venue such as a legislative body. Fighting ideas in writing is different than when facing your opponents. Any online forum attests to that. I was alluding more to the legislative political aspect of the ideological confrontation.

martin j smith| 1.20.11 @ 4:06PM

There is only one way to deal with the LEFT media's effort to strangle free speech: Stand up to them and NEVER BACK DOWN. DOUBLE DOWN ON YOUR COUNTER ATTACK. Those writers who are cowards should be shunned.

oldguy| 1.20.11 @ 4:49PM

They have made themselves look so silly that I bet Sarah will be the next President.

jstwndring| 1.20.11 @ 5:47PM

The Dims have totally and completely lost their control over political discourse in this country, so, it's becoming quite amusing to watch them tell on themselves over and over again. I'd tell 'em to pick up that rake and put it in the shed, but, it's just too damn funny watching them get hit in the face over and over again.

BackToBasics| 1.20.11 @ 6:20PM

The term Tea Party sounds rather non-violent.

Maybe America will cotton to the notion of a majority of elected Tea Party people in the House, Senate and president in 2012.

Marc Jeric| 1.20.11 @ 6:31PM

Who controls the language controls the mind. In America the political correctness brought us to this point: we treat Muslim terrorists as Americans (in civil courts) and Americans as terrorists (at airports). Other examples abound - feel free to contribute.

VBMax| 1.20.11 @ 7:27PM

Well sure, remember that report by DHS on "right wing extremism" concerning the potential danger of "groups that reject federal authority" , "returning veterans", "people that oppose abortion or immigration" etc. In other words, people like us.

zinka milanov| 1.20.11 @ 7:07PM

In the just finished K. Couric CBS news this evening I caught in the segment on the healthcare bill "The White House War Room is up and running" and "The Republicans are trying to kill this bill." Did anyone at CBS notice that these 2 phrases might inspire someone in the US to go out and commit horrible violence? And shouldn't someone at CNN look up some of Mr. Blitzer's old Jerusalem Post articles to see if he mentioned war, shooting, and violence in covering Middle East events?

MarkR| 1.21.11 @ 2:24AM

I'll tell ya all this military jargon could make one unhinged! The media is so irresponsible- no telling what someone might do in response to such hateful rhetoric!

kelly| 1.20.11 @ 10:22PM

As long as the logic against Obama consists of:

"For example, I happen to know for a fact that most would agree that Kelly is incorrigibly promiscuous and has had several embarrassing STDs.

Most would agree that kelly has a nasty Oxycodone habit, too.

Truth be told, most would also agree that that Kelly is a serial shoplifter and has embezzled thousands of dollars from the charity she volunteers for.

And I think we know that most would agree that Kelly herself has been a blood-sucking parasite on the government dole since 2002.

Kelly, what do you have to say for yourself, you promiscuous, drug-addled, thieving welfare mother?

Ugh. your kind disgusts me. "

Quite a revealing comment, your typical opinion of those you've never met? Those not in accord with your libel? With your depth, Obama is a shoe-in again.

The American people saw through Palin before and will again. Let's hope she doesn't do something like quit a governorship(tossed out?) or think Africa is a country.

Todd S| 1.20.11 @ 11:00PM

Are you one of those "99's" Kelly? Did you get hired by one of George Soros's groups to be a paid troll when your unemployment expired because no one else would hire a mentally deficient moron like you? Or if you did actually get an honorable discharge like you claim, would you care to inform us on why? I would guess because you are too damn stupid or lazy to do even the most menial task required.

kelly| 1.21.11 @ 12:38AM

Todd, links were provided Republican waste and Palin insights.

Fact remains, "The American people saw through Palin before and stupid/irresponsible is quiting a governorship(tossed out?) or thinking Africa is a country." , which you don't deny.

For those outside your family, ease up on the "I would guess because you are too damn stupid or lazy to do even the most menial task required."

Todd S| 1.21.11 @ 2:29PM

Every post you make just provides more evidence for your mental deficiencies. Look at that first sentence, it is illiterate and pure nonsense. Classic troll fail kelly, go back to the Kos where they appreciate morons like yourself.

Daniel| 1.21.11 @ 1:57AM

I finally realized why liberals are so quick to blame Sarah Palin for everything under the sun that they do not like.
i thought it first was projection. What people blurt out is usually what is on their own minds. So they tend to accuse others of thinking what they themselves think.
But it this case it is more complicated. Leftists are bitterly disappointed in our President who, aside from silly attempts at appeasing evil, has continued the hated Bush foreign policies and screwed up domestic policy leading to the November debacle for Democrats.
But they are afraid to criticize him. What they say about Palin is really all the things they want to say about Obama but can't. They say she is dumb, that she is not ready to be president, that she is a menace to the country. These are the things they mean to say about Obama but do not dare to!
If you listen to them, think how well every one of their comments about Palin really reflect their views about Obama!

MarkR| 1.21.11 @ 2:18AM

I dont quite agree. I think they are upset with the Messiah sure enough. However what they see in Palin is what they really despise. She is beautiful and yet free of being intimidated. She states her case and doesnt back away. She is the antithesis of liberal women who tend to be ponderous or anemic looking, emotional and gossipy. Think about it- when you think of Barbara Walters (now) or Joy Behar or Maureen Dowd or Whoppi or even Oprah does this make a man sit up and take notice? Uh, probably not. They hate that Palin brought a Downs kid into the world or that she is outdoorsy or a hunter- that really pisses em off. What it really comes down to is they hate that they cant change her in any way- they cant get her to moderate. --Saying all this- Palin has a long way to go on the road to a White House bid I think- but I believe if she turned left tomorrow the left would embrace her as one of their own in a heartbeat and her "stupidity" and particular characteristics they lambast would be not an issue. You see the left is not about thought but emotion. Thought involves evaluating policies on there effectiveness where emotion is "intent" even if the result is non existent. So Palin really represents what lefty women hate- traditional and strong. Whereas leftist women come on strong but melt into victims at a moments notice. They could never stand the heat Palin has had to endure for over two years and she thrives in the midst of that heat- they really hate that.

Charles Stevens| 1.21.11 @ 2:32AM

The verbiage itself is irrelevant. The heart of the matter involves a cultural consensus on personal responsibility or lack thereof.

Progressive influence and control have undermined the foundations of personal responsibility throughout this society. The moral imperative asserting that the internal feelings of someone are the sole responsibility of that person, has been deliberately trashed. By undermining that ethos, it precludes individual responsibility for any subsequent personal decision as to what to do about such feelings, including how or how not to react. This morality between God and the individual is anathema to progressives; it directly interferes with their ability to control each member of society, and to assign blame based on whoever is their enemy-du-jour. Personal responsibility has been diabolically weakened over the decades by the progressive agenda in communications, entertainment, journalism, and education.

Each time a so-called conservative argues about what is or is not “hate speech”, he has already succumbed to leftist assumptions. A true conservative does not believe in the concept of hate speech in the first place. Instead he believes in free speech. The give and take of unfettered speech in a free society is assumed to allow the populace to hear all sides, separate the good from the bad, and then make an informed choice. A society of mature individuals is also assumed to take on the burden of personal responsibility for both individual feelings and any subsequent actions. A limited government founded on liberty resists any attempt to pre-judge speech, as if its citizens otherwise lack such basic decision-making skills that they need outside authority to insulate precious feelings and thoughts. The only way the latter could be accomplished is to have such authority dictate what feelings and thoughts are permissible, i.e., the thought control of a tyranny.

These traditionalist principles have been destroyed by the left. Add to that the tactics and strategies of cultural Marxism. Progressives immediately trot out their premeditated hypocrisy, designed as a power play for the next quasi-legal attempt to gain control of their opponents. In short, the left is deliberately inciting hatred of the right, based not on facts but on fantasies and meta-narratives. We are now at the point where any attempt to pose alternative viewpoints to the left is labeled hate speech. When are Conservatives going to wake up and realize that those whom they still suppose to be mere political opponents are instead vicious enemies, who have already battered down the door?

MarkR| 1.21.11 @ 5:16PM

"Each time a so-called conservative argues about what is or is not “hate speech”, he has already succumbed to leftist assumptions. A true conservative does not believe in the concept of hate speech in the first place. Instead he believes in free speech."-----I think this is very nice "talk" but we are living in a world of discourse and when someone accuses you of having blood on your hands a response is in order. I dont think the fact the left is ridiculous in and of itself means we dont respond. The public is watching and when they see Palin respond the way she did they understand and are aware of the facts surrounding it. An example is Mark Levin who put out a challenge when his own name was brought into the discussion. The war for truth is ongoing and if one stands by the truth ultimately he/she will be victorious.---------------'When are Conservatives going to wake up and realize that those whom they still suppose to be mere political opponents are instead vicious enemies, who have already battered down the door?'---The fact is this is irrelevant. The only matter to be decided is who is correct. 'Vicious enemy' is a term which could potentially lead to violence- and if someone is not advocating that- we still must deal in the real world with these people. I essence I think the argument to be silent if challenged is a poor idea- we are required to defend ourselves.For Palin to defend herself has come under attack from conservatives- usually inside the beltway types who see only the downside of appearances sake- when she in essence is doing what every normal person would do. Reagan in 1980 defended himself repeatedly in the microphone issue with GHWB and other instances. He was vicously attacked in similar manner to what is taking place now. For those around at the time and with good memories the idea that it is worse today is fallacious.

MarkR| 1.21.11 @ 5:17PM

"Each time a so-called conservative argues about what is or is not “hate speech”, he has already succumbed to leftist assumptions. A true conservative does not believe in the concept of hate speech in the first place. Instead he believes in free speech."-----I think this is very nice "talk" but we are living in a world of discourse and when someone accuses you of having blood on your hands a response is in order. I dont think the fact the left is ridiculous in and of itself means we dont respond. The public is watching and when they see Palin respond the way she did they understand and are aware of the facts surrounding it. An example is Mark Levin who put out a challenge when his own name was brought into the discussion. The war for truth is ongoing and if one stands by the truth ultimately he/she will be victorious.---------------'When are Conservatives going to wake up and realize that those whom they still suppose to be mere political opponents are instead vicious enemies, who have already battered down the door?'---The fact is this is irrelevant. The only matter to be decided is who is correct. 'Vicious enemy' is a term which could potentially lead to violence- and if someone is not advocating that- we still must deal in the real world with these people. I essence I think the argument to be silent if challenged is a poor idea- we are required to defend ourselves.For Palin to defend herself has come under attack from conservatives- usually inside the beltway types who see only the downside of appearances sake- when she in essence is doing what every normal person would do. Reagan in 1980 defended himself repeatedly in the microphone issue with GHWB and other instances. He was vicously attacked in similar manner to what is taking place now. For those around at the time and with good memories the idea that it is worse today is fallacious.

Charles Stevens| 1.21.11 @ 11:38PM

Amazing... you completely misconstrue my comments, either unwittingly or deliberately. Then even more unbelievably... someone actively seeks to eliminate you from the realm of politics, and is increasingly able to do so as he gains more power. Meanwhile, you sit there amongst the growing destruction and tell us that “we must deal in the real world with these people” using further attempts at dialogue over “who is correct”. If you don't understand what you are doing (i.e., unwitting), then you are a useful idiot to your enemy; if you do understand (i.e., deliberate), then you are yet another progressive troll dropped into our midst like a land mine. In either case you are not a Conservative, so please get out of the way.

Christina Acker| 1.21.11 @ 5:57AM

It should be. "Why is female circumcision banned but male circumcision not?"

The answer is that male infant or child genital mutilation gained acceptance because of a religious legend. Then it was spread by the primitive "doctors" of the 18th and 19th centuries to prevent masturbation, which was regarded as "unclean".

Parental Control

Pat| 1.21.11 @ 4:40PM

The news reports a hateful Arizona election campaign, with outsider Sarha Palin putting one candidate in crosshairs while taunting, "Reload, don't retreat" on her TV show. Afterwards, an unstable man then shoots the crosshair candidate and murders six others.

There aren't many dots to connect. Sane people find at least a degree of correlation, even before Palin declares her blood libel. But then there's comments on this site..

MarkR| 1.21.11 @ 5:29PM

Knowing the facts surrounding Mr. Loughner and his interactions with Ms. Giffords would be instructive. Mr. Loughner had contact with Ms. Giffords in 2007 and was upset with the Congresswomans response to him and carried a grudge for three years! He was out to get the congresswoman and the idea that Palin was involved in the least is ridiculous and without merit. The crosshairs issue is a non issue as it is a graphic used by all sides - both right and left and could be utilized by either side to foist a straw man into the argument which the far left chose to do. The fact is no one on the left was willing to INVESTIGATE the circumstances surrounding the shooter and instead jumped to supposed politically advantageous conclusions. The syllogism used to connect Palin to the crime is illogical-
point a) Loughner used a gun to kill and maim
Point b) Palin used crosshairs on a map
Point c) Loughner shot up the place due to point b.

Illogic involved: substitute anyones crosshairs into the equation to get the same outcome with the name of the individual drawing up the crosshairs placed into the syllogism. Its a straw man which is easily blown down .

Pat| 1.21.11 @ 7:47PM

.."The syllogism used to connect Palin to the crime is illogical"

MarkR, tell that to one of those shot:

"Eric Fuller, a 63-year-old Navy veteran who was shot in the knee and received fragments in the back last Saturday, said the rhetoric of Sarah Palin and others can impact "demented" people like suspect Jared Loughner."

"Fuller went on to criticize national media outlets that allow violent rhetoric on the air: "I would put Sarah Palin in first place there. I think, really, she should be incarcerated for treason for advocating assassinating public officials. That map I saw that she published on the Internet had crosshairs on it and one of them was meant for Gabrielle Giffords."

Seems like victims connect Palin to their gunshot wounds quite logically.

This site seems to dislike facts or references, but : http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101140044

MarkR| 1.21.11 @ 8:12PM

Fuller is in or was in a mental institution for making threats himself. Enough said. Using illogical emotion laden comments with NO facts behind them is illogical in itself.

Pat| 1.21.11 @ 8:58PM

Right, now the victims don't know who harmed them.

Wonder what Rep. Giffords may say, or has Sarah incited a reload for that possibility..

Richard Baker| 1.22.11 @ 8:44AM

Always find it amazing that the mere mention of her name can drive the lefties stark, raving MAD! If for nothing else, I'm for Sarah!

Marc Jeric| 1.22.11 @ 2:17PM

Marxism started some 160 years ago with the Communist Manifesto. It was implemented in dozens of countries since 1917. Invvariably it has resulted in terror, utter poverty, and mass murder. Why? It is contrary to human nature - like trying to make fish fly or birds crawl. Then how come that, in the face of overwhelming deadly evidence, our professors and intellectuals by vast majorities propagate the "science" of marxism? This former refugee from a communist hell cannot explain it - except perhaps it is just another form of lunacy.

kelly| 1.22.11 @ 2:46PM

Is this part of the Fox Entertainment Group?

The remaining living victims know the atmosphere leading to their wounds. Seems a wounded veteran, unafraid of reloads, spoke out against Palin and you don't like it.

JeffT| 1.23.11 @ 11:26AM

King represents the feminization of America, in general, and the "news", specifically. Look at who delivers most of the news in this country, both locally and nationally. Whether it's Headline News, the networks or Fox News, or your local stations, there is a template in place. Watch the teasers for your 11:00 news. Fashion. Foot ware. Relationships. Sex. The latest health scare. I'm supposed to stay up late for this? I stopped watching national and local news about 30 years ago. I believe I'm a happier person for it.

weddingdress| 7.1.11 @ 12:47AM

Confirmed WMDs by former military and intelligence personel that worked directly for Saddam. They also confirmed that those WMDs left the country via air and ground transport prior to the start of our invasion of Iraq. Wow. You were in the military?

Oh, and by the way, the DemocRats in Congress voted to authorize the war too. Only a very small handful voted against. Hypocrites that they are, they then worked to undermine the entire effort after the fact. Just like the did in Vietnam, Korea, Gulf I. Traitors. All of them.

Adidas| 8.11.11 @ 5:03AM

is good

العاب بنات| 4.11.12 @ 2:21PM

sierra your so right that especially goes for the croked cops some chicken dropping,s Sheriffs that dont uphold the Constatutional rights of the American people as well as the F B I and the Cia U S Marshels and Obamas Fbi Or Fags In Action