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Truth or Consequences

By on 1.5.11 @ 6:07AM

There is so little left of American truth in America.

Two thousand years ago, one man said to another, “For this I was born and for this I came into the world; to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.” The second man responded: “What is truth?”

Though forgiven for his perfidy by the man he condemned to death, Pontius Pilate’s question retains its earth-shaking relevance through the long centuries, because it marks the difference between those who would hear the truth and act on it, and those who close their ears to its message of pure peace and justice. And for those millions who have lived for the truth — and died for it — down through the ages, adherence to it in all walks of life has been paramount to the pursuit of human happiness.

There is moral truth, which most in this country used to believe arose out of the Ten Commandments; given by God to his chosen people and brought to perfection by his Son. These unambiguous laws, were they lived to the fullest by any society, could not help but produce peace and harmony among men. It has been the blessed lot of the United States for most of her history, to conform her code of justice to their dictates, thus ensuring domestic tranquility.

There are political truths, the worst abuses of which, under the current administration, are all too apparent and painful to witness. There is, of course, the old saying about power corrupting, but I prefer this quote from John Adams, which could serve as an accurate description of the liberal exercise of same: “Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God’s service, when it is violating all His laws.”

There are even scientific truths, which in the past referred to those obtained using the scientific method, which Webster defines as “mathematical and experimental techniques employed in the natural sciences; more specifically, techniques used in the construction and testing of scientific hypotheses.” In other words, those which have been proven via Q.E.D., and are not just theories. Of course, there are those of us who believe that science is merely God’s way of explaining himself to us, but that notion is deemed as entirely unscientific by our lettered betters.

And there are also American truths, those which made this a great nation and a beacon of freedom for the world. Primary among these was an imperative faith in and allegiance to our Constitution, the oldest operating governing document on the Earth, and a model for countries across the globe to emulate. Also once accepted as a unique American truth was the notion that our country was blessed by Providence; call it Manifest Destiny, American Exceptionalism or the Shining City on a Hill, Americans once believed in the goodness of America.

Those days, however, seem long past. We have so abrogated moral truth in favor of a relativism where everyone is in possession of their own set of truths, that one shudders to think what weight oaths in court testimony will bear in the coming years. The rule of law cannot survive without truth.

We have let scientific truth become so muddled, that mere and basically unsupported theories are taught as gospel to our children in public schools. The notion of real science is so far gone that, oddly enough, it has virtually been replaced by an almost worshipful belief in Earth itself as a deity; a return to paganism. Science cannot be championed or used for the benefit of mankind without truth.

There is so little left of American truth in America, that one can hardly recognizer her sometimes. The will of the people has been ignored in favor of an out of control court system and unelected czars. While reverence for our Constitution is considered so out of the mainstream, that its mere reading on the floor of the House of Representatives has engendered controversy and disdain.

A great nation, despite the virtuous underpinning of its founding, cannot withstand the perversion of truth at any level. A house once built on truth, divided against itself, cannot stand. But don’t take my word for it; listen to the Father of our Country:

No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America. Wondrously strange, then, and much to be regretted indeed would it be, were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly; I cannot believe it will ever come to pass.

About the Author

Lisa Fabrizio is a columnist who hails from Connecticut (mailbox@lisafab.com).

Letter to the Editor View all comments (131) |

Melvin| 1.5.11 @ 8:03AM

The truth is out here in America if people would just take the time to seek it out.
This is why I throughly enjoy the American Spectator Community. Here we are not bound by the constraints of class, race, or position in life, or education.
In this community we share the free exchange of ideas, philosophies, and we seek the truth. I have learned more in this open forum than any university.
I like to think I have developed friendships with many of those who post here with regularity. One day when I win the NC lottery it would be a quest for me to meet in person, many of the fine minds that reside here.
The truth of America is not dead and gone, buried a little bit but as long as there is one American who seeks it, then that is half the battle.

Sonny| 1.8.11 @ 10:31PM

I couldn't agree with you more.!!
Unfortunately, there are evil and insidious forces in America, ie; Secular Progressive Liberalism, aka, Socialism and Marxism, aka, Obamaism, and those who propagate, advocate, represent, and advance all of that, and they do not want the Truth Revered, let alone Revealed.. There will, desire, and goal, is to Stifle, Silence, Suppress, and to Extinguish the light of Truth, because it is the Truth that keeps Men and Women Free, and the actions of those men, upon that Enlightened Truth, that will make them Free, and destroy the evil that wishes to enslave ALL Free Man and Women.
As best said in the United States Declaration of Independence, "When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. " !!!
If the Secular Progressive Liberals, aka, Socialist Marxists, aka, Obamacrats, can prevent and suppress Communication and Information of the Truth, from reaching the People, and then they Silence and Prevent the people from exercising and thus acting on, their Rights and Freedoms, and allow Democracy, Freedom, Liberty, and Equal justice, in a a Free and Open Democratic Republic to prevail, and thus they will not be allowed and afforded their Control over the nation and the people of that nation..!!
Their main goal is of Control, which is what Obamacare is all about, a catch all, massive Govt. Bureaucratic Bureaucracy, to Control the People and their lives, and thus the Nation's Direction, Philosophy, Policy, Politics, and thus the Nation's Money, Power and Control, and allow them to further their Agenda, via their massive and intrusive Govt. Bureaucratic Institutions, which forever will it, and they, the Internal Domestic Enemies of Freedom, Liberty, and Truth, dominate "the American People", and our Nation's Destiny.

Henry| 1.11.11 @ 3:46AM

I agree. Now, what do we do? I am looking for another site where we who agree, can form up even more powerfully than any tea party. I am sick to death, every day reading about more of our rights being taken away. Now it is the talk of ID on the Internet. I believe that we need to get back to the idea of being a Republic.

I just copied this for you all to read!

Just after the completion and signing of the Constitution, in reply to a woman's inquiry as to the type of government the Founders had created, Benjamin Franklin said, "A Republic, if you can keep it."
Not only have we failed to keep it, most don't even know what it is.

A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule). A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public good).
Lawmaking is a slow, deliberate process in our Constitutional Republic requiring approval from the House, Senate, Executive (President or Governor), The Supreme Court, and individual jurors (jury-nullification). Lawmaking in our unlawful democracy occurs rapidly requiring approval from the whim of the majority as determined by polls and/or voter referendums. Voter referendums allow legislators to blame bad law on the people. A good example of democracy in action is a lynch mob.

Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.

There was more of this article but I cut it short to finish. This is how we are going, higher taxes, less freedoms and rushing toward what his friend in Venezuela has accomplished.

Best to you all!

logmank| 1.5.11 @ 8:27AM

What Lisa has stated here is true. Unfortunately, the rot goes deeper than this. The reason why this country was so profoundly blessed at its founding and throughout its ascendency was that we were followers of the Giver of all Truth. John Adams stated that our form of government was intended for a religious and moral people. It is wholly unfit for any other.
Several decades ago, we stopped being followers of the truth and moved into open rebellion against Him who was the source of our blessings.
If you doubt this and you are one of the two dozen or so in this country who still believe in the truth of Scripture, look at the descriptions of end time events contained there. One player is notably absent from those descriptions: the United States of America. It isn't there. It has passed from the world scene as a major player when those events take place.

Ken (Old Texican)| 1.5.11 @ 8:32AM

Lisa,
As I sit quietly here in my office of a morning, reading reflections like yours here simply supercharges my day.
Thank you.

Melvin,
you have created life-long friendships here.
Heh, you always manage to put a little mustard in the conversations as well.

I always look forward to your posts. As you know I also like to drop in later in the day to see what thoughts were provoked in our fellows' minds.

When an article like Lisa's comes along, it doesn't even bear comment, but simply a deep nodd and perhaps a prayer.

Louis Jenkins| 1.5.11 @ 8:34AM

You are correct Fabrizio, there is little truth left in America. Many people will tell you that reading the Constitution in Congress is a waste in time, and because it was written 100 year ago (their time line not mine) it is too wordy, and too white washed with high falutin language. I'll go them one better, while they're at it they should read the 10 Commandments out loud. Now that would make many of our DC crowd cower in fear. Oh, I forgot, Obama probably said the 10 Commandments were too filled with negative rights, just like the Constitution.

Melvin| 1.5.11 @ 8:46AM

Unfortunately the 80% in this Country let 2% bully them around. For the life of me I am confounded to a certain degree of why.
It has been obvious for a very very long time that we are going to have to develop a battle plan for the deteriorating knowledge in our government run schools of the basic, basic tenets of the US Constitution.
Why is it that we cannot develop a reverse fairness doctrine if you will for our system of education. The Communists have had a monopoly on it long enough don't you think?

Deborah D | 1.5.11 @ 8:46AM

Thank you for this, Lisa, as Ken said above, it inspires a prayer. It's actually almost like reading a prayer. I do pray for our divinely-inspired country and hope, for my child's sake, that the good Lord will help us find our way back to him and that He will guide our path to save the country from those who would destroy it. God bless you and the TAS community.

crookedwren| 1.5.11 @ 8:52AM

Once upon a time, I knew these Truths. Then, like so many late-boomers gone mad (remember the late 60s and early 70s?), I lost my way. My sons and I are still suffering from my waywardness -- and the suffering is hard.

It's good to know that the Truth exists, a bedrock, a foundation that no ideologue, no Marxist, no anarchist can alter. Ultimately, those who live denying those truths suffer.

Unfortunately, that resistance to Truth also creates suffering for others, a deep, dark suffering that can last for generations upon generations.

How to communicate that to those -- even those whom one loves -- who are blind to them?

lisafab| 1.5.11 @ 9:13AM

Turn to the Author of Truth Himself!

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 5:08PM

crookedwren,

Remember how He looks at our past sins:

"Lo, it was for my welfare that I had great bitterness; but Thou hast held back my life from the pit of destruction, for Thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back." Is. 38:17.

p.s. By your lovely post I do believe that you are already communicating to others.. by example. It is already shining brightly.
God bless!

Burton Wallace| 1.10.11 @ 11:45AM

God is the Lord of the harvest, He said let the wheat and the tares grow up together, we have a great crop of tares in the Usa, and only God can open their ears and eyes and as we as a nation are being shaken and all we have relied on for security is being swallowed before us, many are looking and searching and the fields are turning white again. Pray for the Lord of the harvest to send forth laborers and For God to open the hearts of those who are seeking.

D. Sevakis| 1.5.11 @ 10:08AM

Perhaps of interest. . .
New Criterion
December 1992
The treason of the intellectuals & “The Undoing of Thought”
by Roger Kimball
http://www.newcriterion.com/ar.....dquo--4648

Anthony| 1.5.11 @ 10:29AM

Lisa, We indeed live in perilous times. The progress of humanity does not follow a steady upward line of progression. Unfortunately, there are periods of human history that are setbacks, only to be followed by a wonderful period of
renaissance.
We are, as you have pointed out, in one of those dark periods, in which science has been corrupted and politicized. That Orwellian wordsmiths infect various segments of our society, be it higher education, government or the media.
If we remain resolute and stand strong, these dark days shall pass and the light of truth will once again shine.

Citizen Jerry| 1.5.11 @ 10:29AM

When Pilate asked "What is truth?" the obvious answer is "You're looking at Him."

big brush| 1.5.11 @ 11:05AM

Liza, what commandments inspired the vicious treatment of the Native Americans by Christian people ? Certainly not 'Thou shall not kill' . Apparently Truth is selective some who would choose what to remember. Do unto others ? Human nature trumps organized religion all to often.

Ned| 1.5.11 @ 12:40PM

BB:

Yes, "bad things" happened in the past, and "bad things" happen today. That those "bad things" occur is not endorsement of them, however.

People are capable of misguided actions ("misguided" from the lofty perch of our oh-so-exquisite modern sensibilities), but that's what redemption is all about, is it not?

simon templar| 1.5.11 @ 1:59PM

SO, WHATS YOUR POINT? TYPICAL LIBERAL IRRATIONAL AND ILLOGICAL THINKING!
Do you know what truth is? Its not selective, relative, or tied to human nature or a particular group of people. It exist and stands alone despite the actions, hypocricy, and manipulations of institutions or individuals. Remember that line from that fetish document, "we hold these truths to be self evident"? Interesting you should make the argument that the author's truths are not relevant or objective....funny, when we examine the so-called truths and realities of liberalism and left wing ideology we find nothing but a century of lies and failure. Where in the communist manifesto does it inspire murdering 5 million Ukranians?

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 2:26PM

No one is to blame more for the ill treatment of Native Americans than the Democrat hero Andrew Jackson, look it up in history to see his evil deeds. Or that is was FDR who interned innocent Japanese during WW11. And of course there is Progressive hero Woodrow Wilson who desegregated the military and was an outright racist.

To say Christianity is to blame for such acts and others is a lie, only corrupt men who don't follow its precepts. Are you one of those arrogant atheist who rails against religion for all of humanities problems? Well they rejected religion and Christianity in revolutionary France and the Soviet Union and we saw where that led to, death and inhumanity.

You have a point about human nature or what you can also call the natural man who rejects God's guidance and commandments. What Lisa is saying is that our society is moving further away from seeking unambiguous truths that are necessary for a well ordered prosperous society into one where it is everyone for themselves, truth be damned. The Founding Fathers understood that this would lead to the destruction of this great country for without morals and virtue, there can be nothing good. This is the road the progressives and their followers are taking us if we do not take a stand for truth and righteousness.

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 4:24PM

Great post, and to build on what you said I wish to add a quote of John Adams:

"Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure than they have it now, They may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting Liberty. They will only exchange Tyrants and Tyrannies."

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 7:07PM

John Adams, despite some of his failings, had more wisdom in his big toe than all of the socialist Democrats put together. I can't stand the pukes like RCV who pretend to revere our Founding Fathers while justifying every attempt by the Democratic Socialist to subvert the Constitution to shove their radical agenda down our throats. When the mask slips like it did with Ezra Klein and EJ Dionne, it is clear they do not give a damn about the Constitution and blather on about a "living Constitution" to justify their totalitarian actions.

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 9:04PM

The RCVs of this country are truly despicable.
The smooth talking liars are the worst.
Them along with the anti-semites who post here as well.
For talking back to them and naming what they are, liars or anti-semites, I get my posts removed. So watch out.
They removed my post to Ben Stein today because it included a call out to the disgusting anti-semites who always fill up his threads. At the same time they left one of their favorite posters, Tim*/Cint's post calling Ben's wife a dog.

That is what you get for calling an ace an ace.
You've been warned. Stick to your guns too much and you too will be either banned or your posts removed.

Sad that this has infected AmSpec as well.. but I refuse to bow to anyone. The RCVs and other various and sundries liars need to be called out constantly, with each and every lie they tell. Every single time.
What are we here, a bunch of lily-livered wimps?
It disgusts me.
Has AmSpec become just another haven for Leftists now?
Removing posts of conservatives and allowing anti-semitic and other numerous vile posts and individuals to stand?
Has the P.C. Police infected this site just like the others out there?

Clint| 1.6.11 @ 1:05AM

RINO-CINO Israel Firster Crank Lady Margie wants Tea Party Clint arrested because We Tea Party Rebels don't have Her Israel Firster Litmus Test in Our Mission Statement & Core Values.

Margie| 1.6.11 @ 11:26AM

I want you arrested now? Wow Timmy*/Clint, your lying just get worse and worse.
Question: Do you think your Pope would approve of such a despicable liar?
Your disgusting hate filled posts are allowed to stand here at AmSpec, ie. your calling Ben Stein's wife a dog yesterday in his thread.
Yet they removed my post paying homage to him.
Question: WHY IS THAT?

irish19| 1.8.11 @ 1:20PM

Meds, Timmy. Remember?

Conservadiva| 1.11.11 @ 10:26AM

Israel is the only bastion of democracy left in the middle east. I do not need any other reason to support Israel than that fact alone. We are being weighed down by references to past injustice and former ways of thinking. Look at today! The Muslim threat is overwhelming. And Israel is one state where they have been resisted. This is no longer true of Europe...thankfully, a scholar like David Horowitz is trying to save western civilization by exposing the Islamic threat. We need to encourage him and like minded Jews everywhere to stand for freedom, and in mutual opposition to Islam.

Appleby| 1.5.11 @ 3:34PM

Have you read anything about the French and Indian Wars? Do you know that several Indian tribes bought, sold and kept slaves?

Do you know that the Noble Savage never existed except on the covers of sheeet music?

Paul D| 1.5.11 @ 3:53PM

Deborah D,

And the myth of the Noble Savage was created by the French Philosopher Jean Jacques Rousseau - the intellectual father of the French Revolution, and arguably the father of all subsequent Leftism.

Imagine that.

Paul D| 1.5.11 @ 3:55PM

Pardon me, I meant - Appleby, not Deborah D.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 4:07PM

Nothing like having some jerk atheist bash Christianity for all of mans problems and using examples where man obviously is not living it or inventing history as he sees fit? That us an interesting point about Rousseau, the worshipper of man's "reason". When you take God and natural law out of the equation for a society, man becomes a savage with no regard for others and can only be ruled by brute force. History shows this very clearly whatever the so-called "enlightened" atheist would have us believe.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 4:08PM

No need for the question mark

Brian Mc| 1.5.11 @ 5:24PM

Anyone who envisions the 'noble' native Americans as ones in tune with nature, chasing butterflies while worshipping Moneto have ignored history. Pick up a copy of "The Frontiersmen" by Allan W. Eckert. Then, get back to me: human nature is not more nor less dependant upon skin tone, but based on the color of one's soul. Masses of humanity have migrated about the face of the planet since the dawn of time and assimilation to assassination has occurred all along the way, on both sides-the unstoppable force meeting the immovable object-and beauty and ugly have always been in its wake.

irish19| 1.8.11 @ 1:24PM

I've read most of Eckert's stuff as I do living history for most of that era. The William Johnson stuff is of most interest as that is where I concentrate my efforts. When reading it, however, remember that he does take some license, especially with dialogue.
The events, however, seem well referenced.
Several members of my re-enactment group were particularly taken by the charming end experienced by Mr. Greathouse.

wildrev| 1.5.11 @ 11:09AM

Read Robin of Berkeley's corollary comments in American Thinker today. She explains some of the how as well.

Petronius| 1.5.11 @ 11:28AM

Delightful article Lisa. Just do not expect to last long stating publicly what the wretched mob surrounding us does not want said, as their only belief is in getting their way by any means necessary.
And whatever for? They want to play in the mud like the Hollywood and Washington D.C. lowlife. And they managed to elect a Pound foolish like- minded government which failed to confiscate our assets to then give to them so that they might indulge themselves. One of them even told me to my face, "all the money is Ours." He voted for Obama with the Hope of receiving plunder. But then he never subscribed to nor was he taught the Ten Commandments. He begins with, "nobody can tell Me what to do." Then he wails and squeals like the overgrown 3 year old he is because circumstances limit his ability to consume and behave as he wants. Instead of examining his deficiencies, he blames me. He blames you too Lisa. The decadence of old Rome is exactly what this mob desires, and would throw me and thee to the lions in a New York minute. But who would they tax to sustain themselves after? So they will assault the truth and all who speak it for the pain it brings them. And just as in Athens and Paris, they will not stop even though there's nothing left to take from their neighbors.
I can't remember what pundit said this, but, "the culture war is over, and the assholes won!" What they now face is the line we drew in the sand and crossed. Unlike the RINO's who cried for their acceptance, we will fight them. Carry on in very Truth.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 1.5.11 @ 12:48PM

And how did the truth get so perverted?

Independent of man there is no way to pervert the truth.

In most colleges the students are taught about the wonder of the two party system in America.

But the two party system became infested with too much money, and Washington became infested with too much power, and the two party system became a one party system where sleazy words like bipartisanship are batted around. Complete flip flopping morons like John McCain are held out as mavericks, when they would be more properly referred to as political linguine.

At that point the truth became buried beneath a cacophony of half baked talking points which were filtered through the state run media.

Oddly enough, the truth died slowly, and without much of a fight. Those who tried to bring out the facts are often ridiculed or fired or otherwise considered bizarre.

Seek| 1.5.11 @ 12:53PM

This is some of them most frightening, and poorly-defended, theocratic garbage I have ever read in my life. My jaw is still dropping at how something like this could be published by TAS.

simon templar| 1.5.11 @ 2:09PM

That theocratic garbage your so frightened of is the conceptual and moral basis for our constitution, laws, and form of government. That theocratic garbage is what allowed you to sit there in your basement and spout off your left wing rants without being arrested and executed by a government that finds you a threat. That theocratic garbage allows you to make your own choice as to what you want to be believe and gives you inalienable rights that no state or entity can take away.

Seek| 1.5.11 @ 2:45PM

The Ten Commandments have only the most tenuous connection to human liberty, which evolved far later. I happen to be on the Right, but to people like you, I suppose, defending liberty is a "Leftist" pursuit.

Something else. What our friend Lisa Fabrizio didn't mention in her piece was that the penalty among the ancient Hebrews for violating any of the Ten Commandments was death. Ah, those were the days!

simon templar| 1.5.11 @ 3:07PM

LIE NUMBER ONE: The Ten Commandments have only the most tenuous connection to human liberty, which evolved far later.
The TRUTH: Not only do the ten commandments form the basis of western law but the very idea of self government, inalienable rights, and human rights finds its origins in judeo-christain literature and belief. Apparently you know nothing of western history or ancient history. Try reading the 5000 leters written by our founding fathers who make thousands of references not only to anglo-saxon law but foremost to the Bible when discussing among themselves what this Republic should be based on. You are not defending liberty...and you are not on the right! Your last paragraph was classic liberal illogic..the ten commandments have no value because the death penalty was imposed on all of them... which is actually incorrect. Your implication that we want to return to the grand old days of an eye for eye is also typical liberal ploy.

simon templar| 1.5.11 @ 3:34PM

Lisa writes, "There is moral truth..."
This is the crux of your protest, eh? IS it not? You give yourself away..troll....

Dewey E. Du Bose| 1.10.11 @ 6:16PM

"TROLL" Whatever happen to free speech? Why do we have to lower ourselves to name calling? Just because someone has a different idea or opinion is not a cause to demean someone.

Buck up and let freedom ring.

If you are allowed to express your thoughts and ideas on this forum, then surely everyone else should be allowed to do the same, whether you agree with them or not. If you disagree, fine express the reason for your disagreement, but don't stoop to petty name calling, it only makes you look small in a cheap suit.

Take Care and God Bless!

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 2:17PM

It's also a sad commentary on where the Right in America has descended to. Ronald Reagan was a bold optimist, proud of America and proud of its culture and people. The current group of people who pretend to be his heirs are fond of disparagina our country, its leaders, its institutions and its culture. Very sad.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 2:52PM

Obligatory RCV post of half baked sophistry. Disparagina? Something wrong with your spell check RCV? No doubt you agree with the likes of that putz Ezra Klein and the dope EJ Dionne that the Constitution is hopelessly outdated (you know it is over 100 years old, how quaint!) and that progressives should be allowed to do whatever they want for the "good of the people" without having to deal with that outdated irrelevant Constitution written by a bunch of dead slave owning white guys. Who the hell cares what John Adams said right RCV? Lawyers like you disgust me, vultures of society.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 3:26PM

I do apologize for the failure to proofread.

No I do not agree that our Constitution is "hopelessly outdated" -- it's the most brilliant document for political organization ever conceived, and one I revere. I've spent my professional career as a constitutional litigator. And among those "slave owning white guys" are my greatest heroes: Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 3:51PM

So explain to me exactly what your problem is with this article RCV? Ronald Reagan could not have agreed more with what Liza said because I actually have studied his life and beliefs unlike you. So if that is what you believe about the Constitution, why don't you call out liberals like Ezra Klein and EJ Dionne for disrespecting the Constitution instead of your nonsense you posted? And what about what John Adams said that Liza quoted and how it applies to what is going on today?

From the many posts I have seen from you here, I think I know exactly what kind of "constitutional litigator" you are, the one that looks up to the socialist supporting justices Bryer and Ginsburg along with the recent additions of the "wise Latina" and the Obama worshipping Kagan. Do I have that right?

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 5:05PM

"There is so little of American truth left in America today" is not a sentiment Ronald Reagan would in his lifetime have ever uttered or entertained. He was an eternal optimist and a believer in and booster of our culture. And I have actually studied his life and beliefs as well, which is why I voted for him twice for President and once for Governor. (I confess to not having voted for him the first time he ran for Governor, because I didn't fully appreciate his strengths.)

As for my judicial heroes, there are more than a few: Holmes and Brandeis, the vigorous defenders of the First Amendment; the first John Marshall Harlan, who saw clearly the hypocrisy and racism behind the emasculation of the 14th Amendment in Plessy; John Marshall, who understood the great vision for our nation that the Founders had; Judge Frank Johnson in Alabama who upheld the principles of the Constitution throughout the Civil Rights battles of the past.

Justice Breyer is a pretty smart guy, probably the best of the current court, though not quite in league with the above. I'm not aware of any opinion of his addressing, let alone supporting, socialism, but maybe I missed a case or two. The jury is still out on Sotomayor and Kagan -- they wouldn't have been my first choices, but we'll see. Alito is probably the most unfit of all the justices, an intellectually dishonest and blatantly partisan political guy. Antonin Scalia is smart, writes well and has a sharp analytic legal mind. Anything else you're interested in?

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 5:49PM

Breyer is as left as they come which is why you hold him in such high regard. If you want proof, see every opinion he has written in his career. If there is a left side to be had on any case in question, he is on it. See anything to do with the 2nd amendment, he would ban all guns if he had his way. Of course you don't like Alito because he called out Obama on his bullshit in his State of the Union. His experience and reputation far exceeded anything that the two most recent appointees that is for damn sure. The Dean of Law at Harvard even told Obama Sotomayor was not fit for The Supreme Court and that she was very arrogant. Obama didn't care because he wanted his mouthpiece on the Court to push is liberal agenda anytime possible. Kagan might be more intelligent than Sotomayor (not too difficult) but is nothing but a political operative with no Judical experience at all. There is video of her from a few years back at a conference saying how Obama is the greatest politician and man on the planet. That tells me all I need to know about her.

Every good progressive lawyer loves Brandeis of course, the first Justice to be an open crusader for "social justice" and all things progressive. The man who hated free markets and sought to give government the power to control all business as he saw fit and destroy the "Robber Barons". I will give him credit for one thing and that is his opposition to FDR's attempt to stack the court. Called the "Robin Hood of the law" which the left would see as a compliment of the highest order but the Founding Fathers would be appalled at, including John Marshall.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 6:15PM

So you are a supposed "Regan Democrat" yet you promote every action of the Obama administration (the polar opposite of Reagan) that I have seen. If you actually studied Reagan and agreed with his philosophy, you would recoil at what Obama has done and would despise the Pelosi-Reid Congress, without a doubt the most irresponsible Congress in history. So excuse me if I don't buy what you are selling.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 6:34PM

Well that is a first for me, should have been Todd S and not RCV. I called you out for the misspelling so you can call me out for it. Trying to get some work done still so a brainfart on my part.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 6:55PM

Not trying to sell you anything. But I'd be happy to tell you what it is I admired about Ronald Reagan: He was first and foremost, a genuine American leader. He understood that one of the most important roles of a President is to appeal to Americans' love of their country and appeal to their best instincts in trying to build consensus to address the issues that face us. (In Reagan's case, the greatest of those problems was the loss of national confidence and will in our country in the post-Vietnam era.) Most all of our greatest Presidents have shared this quality of leadership -- Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR (which is why RR admired him so) and even Jack Kennedy. They inspired us, and moved us to work together to better our nation.

Reagan also had a clear-eyed focus on the evil that Soviet expansionism represented. Together with another of my contemporary heros, John Paul II, he gave similar inspiration to those resisting communist tyranny in the occupied east of Europe, and his determination was enough to convince a reasonable clear-sighted Russian dictator, Gorbachev, that the Bolsheviks could no longer afford to keep their hold on that country.

I didn't agree with Reagan on many particular issues of legislation or appointments, but he was an admirable leader and a great President, at a time when we needed him most.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 7:26PM

Do you realize how contradictory what you say is? It is all well and good that you can appreciate Reagan being a great President that saved us from the awfulness that was Jimmy Carter and having the strength of convictions to call the Soviets what they were. But in the here and now, you tell us that Republicans must "compromise" with Obama when you know damn well that will be to his advantage and the Republicans disadvantage. Reagan always sold his policies to the American people first instead of dirty back room deals that Reid and Pelosi specialized in and using the media to sell their propaganda but America has had enough of this crap. 2,000+ page bills that no one knows what the hell is really in it or even who the hell wrote it?

I asked you exactly how the Republicans should compromise with Obama that will improve this country? Now there was a so-called compromise with the "Bush" tax cuts which magically all of the sudden will be a stimulus for the economy when we have been told for a decade they are the cause of all of our problems. But that actually changed nothing and had garbage like extending unemployment another 52 weeks (to 3 years!) and continues the ongoing travesty that is ethanol. So what other "compromises" are the Republicans to make for Obama? Should they decide to not touch the health-care abomination because that would lead to "partisanship"? Obama and the Democrats refused to play nice and compromise in any way when they held the reins of power and now they expect us to play nice? The hell with the bastards, this is no time for politics as usual because we are on the road to ruin as it stands now.

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 3:04PM

RCV says to us.. but is one of the ones on the Left who is taking part in this country's ruin.
Obama loving, Leftist lawyer, defender of and maker of lies.
Sad, indeed.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 3:29PM

Another disparager of America. This country and its glorious Republic will be around and prospering long after the tea baggers have gotten tired of their current hobby and go back to scrapbooking and gossiping about the neighbors.
And the Peace of the Lord be with you, Margie.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 3:58PM

Have you taken a look at the budget deficit lately and how we are headed very fast towards insolvency with Obama and the Democrats foots firmly on the accelerator? Nothing to worry about though right RCV? The golden goose can always be choked further to fund your glorious welfare state right moron? Screw you you ahole and your teabagging faggot friends RCV. What kind of jerk calls people teabaggers and then says the Peace of the Lord be with you? A damn dark hearted hypocrite that is who

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 4:54PM

People who attend rallies with tea bags on their head are "tea baggers" to me. I wasn't even aware of the other use of the term til I heard it on this site where those of you who seem obsessed with the details of homosexual acts discuss them on a daily basis.

The budget deficit is a real and serious and growing problem, stemming largely from the collapse of the American financial markets in the fall of 2008 (remember that, or do you have short-term memory problems like many of the others who frequent this site). I hope its one that can be addressed soon, and one that the Congress will address with seriousness and a constructive attitude in working with the President.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 5:07PM

Listen you ahole, you knew damn well what is was so don't play innocent. The ones who are obsessed with it are the jerks on the left, showing themselves to be the classless jerks they are. We refer to ourselves as Tea Partiers you prick. It was real "teabaggers" like Anderson Cooper who wanted to use the term to slander the good people of this country concerned with the outrageous spending from Congress and being pushed by Obama that is threatening America with bankruptcy.

Do you really want to get into what caused the collapsed of the financial markets in 2008 and the shenanigans of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pushed by the leftists? How about out of control public sector unions that are threatening to bankrupt many states such as California, New York, New Jersey , Illinois etc? Mainly those states run by leftists beholden to the unions and irresponsible government spending. Tell me exactly how Obama is going to deal with this issue and how the Republicans should work "constructively" with him? The only way to deal with him constructively is to block his socialist agenda at every turn and throw his sorry ass out of office in 2012.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 5:23PM

Todd, when you can discuss issues like an adult and stop calling names and dropping profanities, we can talk.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 5:53PM

That is funny coming from someone calling us teabaggers you hypocrite. You know exactly what that means you liar.

da monk| 1.5.11 @ 7:53PM

BRAVO RCV. Why is it when one loses their argument they stoop to name calling. Reminds me of the cartoon where a man says: Why am I talking so loud? Because I'm wrong

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 8:51PM

Tell me exactly where I lost the argument? And I will remind you that he was the one that thinks he can refer to us as "teabaggers". You have an argument you want to make or you too lame-brained to do it yourself?

margie| 1.5.11 @ 5:36PM

Ted S.,

RCV is the perfect example of what Rush Limbaugh said recently:

"If you want to make a conservative angry, tell him a lie. If you want to make a liberal angry, tell him the truth. Works every time."

He purposely lies in order to anger conservatives and then revels the anger he produces. In the sick mind of the Leftist, the very act of you becoming angry at their lies equals your defeat. They live by fantasy of course. Ya know, just because they say something over and over.. and over, must mean it's true.

Anyhow, keep nailing his butt.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 5:45PM

It's Todd not Ted, Margie. And I have no desire to make you or anyone else angry. I'd just like you to be able to discuss an issue on its merits and not call people names. Not sure what the root of your anger is, but it certainly isn't Christian and it certainly isn't becoming.

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 6:01PM

RCV does not ever discuss anything on its merits.
You obfuscate for a living, and only your Leftist pals believe that's becoming.

That you hate the Truth and those who speak it isn't pleasing to Him, nor the way you psychologically intimidate His children.
The root of your deceit is Sin. And you are hardened by it.
I hope you repent.

"But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called "today," that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin." Heb. 3:13.

Jack| 1.5.11 @ 8:33PM

The huge deficit run-up started in 2007 with the Dem controled budget. In 4 years they added 5.3 trillion. Where do you get this 2008 crap?

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 4:12PM

RCV,

There is no peace without war, and there is NO compromising with liars.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 4:49PM

Gee, Margie, I missed those points in the Sermon on the Mount.

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 5:29PM

As good 'ol Johnny Cochran the Leftist lawyer used to say, "Let me refresh your recollection".

As it is written:

"Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man's foes will be those of his own household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who does not take his cross and follow Me is not worthy of Me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it. "He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me." Mt. 10:34-40.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 5:42PM

Not the Sermon on the Mount, but the one portion of Jesus's words I knew would come from you, and one whose point in my view you miss entirely. Jesus did want to change society, did insist that people give up the old ways of slavish adherence to ritual and talmudic focus on the letter of the law, while missing entirely the mercy and justice and love that is its essence. He knew that message would cause dissension in society, and it did. People left their mothers and fathers and sons and daughters to follow Him and his exhortation to love even your enemies. I hope someday you will find that real message of Christ and your attitude towards others wouldn't be quite so venomous.

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 6:08PM

Thus saith the one who says homosexuality is not sin. The one who tells others that we shouldn't listen to the Apostle Paul, and that the Bible doesn't have to be taken seriously because "infallible" men wrote it!

And you say it all with such calm.. like a smooth talking snake.

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!" Is. 5:20.

Burt| 1.10.11 @ 12:06PM

Ha ha, yes and as someone who grew up eating crap sandwiches ,my first T bone steak was quite a shocker also.

james wilson| 1.5.11 @ 12:57PM

Most of the change we think we see in life
Is due to truths being in and out of favor--
Robert Frost

The eternal questions return in various guises generation after generation not because we can never resolve them, but because we resolve ourselves in them--
Richard Fernandez

To be surprised, to wonder, is to begin to understand--
Jose Ortega

JShizzle| 1.5.11 @ 12:58PM

I never thought I would see the day when the Media mocked the regard we Americans have for the Constitution. This is the greatest document ever written (well, right behind the 10 Commandments of course)...it LIMITS what a government can do to its citizens. It is a work of art...and yet these people, who enjoy the freedoms it provides, mock the very thing that keeps them safe. I wonder how long these liberals, that hate our capitalistic free ways, would live under a dictator like Stalin.

Perusha| 1.5.11 @ 1:05PM

"These unambiguous laws, were they lived to the fullest by any society, could not help to produce peace and harmony among men."

Doesn’t anyone carefully read anymore?

The above quote from this article surely lacks a BUT between “help” and “to”.

However, I prefer the “Freudian slip” exactly the way it came out.

No doubt but that, conventionally, what Liza so eloquently writes is correct. And, amidst all the lies we have to deal with constantly erupting from post-modern types, even maintaining a law and order stable society is reaching near to anarchy.

Also, in this Christian country of America, it is no surprise to find most people proudly proclaiming THEIR programmed BELIEF concerning truth, resting it on THEIR understanding of Jesus.

Let’s face it---over half of us have an IQ of 100 or LESS!

So, to give any credence to mere BELIEVERS, who by and large haven’t really inspected or pondered “What is truth?”, just provides evidence of the superficial “thinking” that the masses logically would engage in.

In order to even question “truth”, or any other thing, “it” has to---BE!

What IS X? pivots on, and is permeated by BEING.

To be or not to be, that IS the question.

Heidegger delved deeply into this with an essay, “On the Essence of Truth”, which is quite a head spinner, let me tell you!

He excavates the word back to “aletheia”, a Greek word that definitely predates Jesus.

For you Beatle fans, “Let it be” is quite essential here, also.

“Ordinarily, we speak of letting be whenever, for example, we forgo some enterprise that has been planned. ‘We let something be’ means we do not touch it again, we have nothing more to do with it. To let something be here has the negative sense of letting it alone, of renouncing it, of indifference and even neglect.

However, the phrase required now---to let beings be---does not refer to neglect and indifference but rather the opposite. To let be is to engage oneself with beings. On the other hand, to be sure, this is not to be understood only as the mere management, preservation, tending, and planning of the beings in each case encountered or sought out. To let be---that is, to let beings be as the beings that they are---means to engage oneself with the open region and its openness into which every being comes to stand, bringing that openness, as it were, along with itself.

Western thinking in its beginning conceived this open region as “ta alethea”, the unconcealed. If we translate “aletheia” as ‘unconcealment’, rather than ‘truth’, this translation is not merely more literal; it contains the directive to rethink the ordinary concept of truth in the sense of the correctness of statements and to think it back to that still uncomprehended disclosedness and disclosure of beings.

To engage oneself with the disclosedness of beings is not to lose oneself in them; rather, such engagement withdraws in the face of beings in order that they might reveal themselves with respect to what and how they are and in order that presentative correspondence might take its standard from them.

As this letting-be it exposes itself to beings as such and transposes all comportment into the open region. Letting be, i.e. freedom, is intrinsically exposing, ek-sistent (This variant of the word “existence” indicates the ecstatic character of freedom, its standing outside itself).

Considered in regard to the essence of truth, the essence of freedom manifests itself as exposure to the disclosedness of beings.

Disclosedness itself is conserved in ek-sistent engagement, through which the openness of the open region, i.e., the ‘there’ [‘Da’], is what is.” From Basic Writings, pages 127-128

What it IS, man and woman!

I disclose THIS---and, that’s the truth.

Finally, Liza bemoans the loss of “truth” in modern science.

I wonder if she realizes that science proved, QED, that no objects actually exist.

All things and beings, including YOU, are simply stepped down frequencies of light, over against other stable seeming frequencies of light.

What we perceive to be objects are plucked apparitions of light.

This world of apparent objects that is subjectively taken to be so solidly TRUE is a dream play of LIGHT.

Just as you awaken from a dream and realize what the dream was, the TRUE “reason” one is born in the graceful human condition is to---transcend this condition.

That requires waking up from THIS dream, the one we take as so hard and so out there in all its solidity, just as you do in the morning.

What a grand paradox!

In AND out buggers.

just sayin'| 1.5.11 @ 1:17PM

Ha ha, and you don't exist either...

Perusha| 1.5.11 @ 2:21PM

Exactly!

Or, is that inexactly?

Hmmm?

What time is it?

Time to get wild and loose.

Perusha| 1.5.11 @ 2:31PM

Actually, anybody out there ever heard of the rock group called “The Time”?

Sort of a lower level Prince type.

They made a fantastic album, “What Time Is It?”, in 1982. Led by Morris Day.

Most famous song, 777-9311.

Pretty raunchy, but catchy tunes!

Margie| 1.5.11 @ 4:33PM

"So, to give any credence to mere BELIEVERS, who by and large haven’t really inspected or pondered “What is truth?”"

Mere believers.. hmm. I like that.
I'd much rather be a mere believer than an empty headed nut.

Perusha| 1.5.11 @ 6:07PM

Let it be.

Peppermint Tea | 1.5.11 @ 1:14PM

Lisa, How did we discard truth? Let me count the ways:
1. Faith in fiat money, lying that it was real money.
2. Didn't honor parents (provide for them) but turned it over to government.
3. Adultery, fornication, and 40% illegitimacy rate today.
4. Abortion that changed the demographics so that providing for elderly is more difficult.
5. Coveting property (class warfare)
6. Stealing property (redistribution of wealth)
7. Bearing false witness (everything from Climategate scandal to Pelosi saying every bill must now be scrutinized for job creativity--a year ago they didn't even read the bills!)
8. Not honoring the sabbath.
9. And of course the big one, not recognizing the hand of God in our blessings. Or the roadmap to a just and stable society (the 10 "suggestions")

Perusha| 1.5.11 @ 2:44PM

Let there BE truth---

Pulling (and Pushing) STRING Theories.

John Derbyshire relayed the story of an English soldier serving in Northern Ireland. A reporter asked him how he'd ended up in such a dangerous place, and he replied, "I pulled a few strings." What a pristine dichotomous KEY! On one side you have the type of person, epitomized by the reporter, who does almost anything to AVOID the killing fields, and on the other side exist people like that soldier, who avidly DESIRES being at the FRONT, in the action.

This triggered thinking about one of the books that had a profound effect on my own sadhana, "Pulling Your Own Strings", by Wayne Dyer from 1977. The cover offers these words to entice one to buy the book---"Dynamic techniques for dealing with OTHER people and mastering your OWN life." Yes, it's all about being totally responsible for every outcome, even the bleakest ones. That's some OWNERSHIP! No victims exist. Of course, this is a paradoxical REALIZATION, because conventionally, there's a whole lot of STRING-PULLING going on----APPARENTLY.

It occurred to me that, in our OWNED CW human dimensions, in some primeval way, almost too transparent to be visible, STRINGS can be used to tie the whole ball of TRIPPING, or is that DRIPPING, wax together, all the way from STRING THEORY, in physics, through every wave length in the electromagnetic field of our DREAMS, all the way to as close to INFINITY as you want to go. What just came to mind is the sheer most-basic idea of SPACE-TIME, as itself. The three dimensions of SPACE which we seem to inhabit, and the one dimension of TIME, through which we seem to move, are each the ONE, and only ONE, which can be understood AS a STRING.

Who's in the LINE-UP?

It's always a case of "BATTER UP!" and/or a police LINE UP. Using GEOMETRY we must come from FIRST BASE, the VOID = NOTHINGNESS of a ZERO dimensioned POINT---that's the ONE POINT of, and AS, IT-ALL! We all soon find out that any LINE is simply a POINT that's stretched out. The humorous paradox of such a wild invention is that it only SEEMS like any particular LINE is "MADE UP OF" a series of POINTS. If each POINT has NO DISTANCE, how can a line segment measure up to a POSITIVE DISTANCE? What an illusion!

Consider FRACTALS. When we further complicate matters by crossing TWO lines = STRINGS, perpendicularly, and CREATE AREA, we have really muddied the ZERO waters. However, as has been proved, it is possible to cover a closed area with a SINGLE LINE, that doesn't even cross over itself! A little zig here, a little zag there, and---VOILA! I don't know if anyone has been able to fill a THREE-dimensioned closed solid with a LINE, but it seems deductively obvious to me that it is true. I imagine using PLANES with myriad ripples the same kind of FILL 'ER UP is so.

TIME LINES

As for the ever-moving TIME STRING, here you have the expression of an infinite MAGICIAN---it's ALL a matter of "Now you see it, and now you don't." What better 'proof' is needed that NOTHING is playing the IT-ALL? At the human level, at any specific TIME, with a certain number of well-defined humans alive, the mind boggles as it tries to expand from simple four-dimensional SPACE-TIME to many billions of dimensions---AT LEAST! Consider the useful time lines plastered on walls in schools, and BIG BANG them in a thought experiment for every single human. We EACH have a particular HISTORY, which is our own, and OWNED, STRING. Imagine this LINE going as far backwards in TIME as possible. From WHERE and WHEN did it arise? From NO THING, that's for sure. Now, at this very instant, this single POINT of SPACE-TIME, picture the six BILLION or more human STRINGS meeting at a SINGLE POINT. This is our OWNED here and NOW! And HOW!

LINING TIME

In consonance with one of Heidegger's most basic points----POINTS!---, to wit that Dasein, or human beings, attend to the FUTURE end of the TIME spectrum, the infinite possibilities for each single one of us are ever being THERE, needing decisions. That is, the IMAGINED STRINGS any ONE can 'pluck' rival the total number of STRINGS already 'plucked' by all of mankind, from the 'beginning'! It's no wonder we are living in WONDER! What's called the 'FUTURE' is simply a word for INFINITY, or in terms of STRING, a boundless BALL of fun, awaiting someone to PLAY with it, AS IT-ALL.

PUPPETRY with no STRING Pullers

All the preceding just "SHOWS TO GO YOU" that STRINGS ARE all of reality, despite being invisible, by and---TINY! In short, as weird as it seems, it might be best to go ahead and accept that ALL-THAT-IS does dance to the tune of a Puppeteer, so that just like a single unbroken LINE that never crosses itself can FILL a space, for every SINGLE one of the extant humans, at any given TIME, the incredible matrix of STRINGS keeps each one of us STRINGING ALONG in our karmic path.

Now, when you think about all the troubles between all the rigidly self-defined religious tribes, it seems possible to gather a bundle of STRINGS and make a strong ROPE, a TIMELY THREAD that reaches back in TIME to certain Dead "Gods". Thus, for example, a Mohammed continues to PULL THE STRINGS of Muslims, despite the fact he's been DEAD for many hundreds of years. In truth, though, he ain't really there! There are no PUPPETEERS! There is just the continuation, like a spinning pottery wheel, of PULLED STRINGS, when all along any STRING long ago was PULLED from its first hand, the hand that initially jerked it. So, today, too many people are living as JERKS, in as much as they don't realize all this.

Fate and predestination

We must mention the tendency of humans to accept their 'fate', in a rigid form. Those people who used to believe in a fixed future epitomize determined puppets, in essence as lifeless as any rag doll, because being human is truly all about CHOICE. They just didn't get it.

Getting back to our soldier in Belfast, as well as Wayne Dyer's book, now we can see how all that relates. In order to fulfill his 'destiny', the military man with a past, which was replete with STRINGS to war, chooses, HIMSELF, to play puppeteer, by dealing with the various other HUMANS and essentially PULLING THEIR STRINGS. Now, of course, quid pro quo is also part of reality, so maybe you could say the STRING PULLING went both ways. Yes, STRING PULLING is the way the world works.

"THAT" just GOES to SHOW you!

What else can a STRING be? All that appears is a "THAT" which is GOING ON (stage) so it can "SHOW" all the "YOU'S" who are connected to it. Life is ALL about waking up, so each STRING resembles lightning, as much coming OUT of you as going INTO you. Thus, with Carlos Castaneda's books in mind, especially Don Juan and his LINES emanating FROM the body, we can come FULL CIRCLE, and understand the way STRINGS can indeed transcend their only apparently split-up SHOW.

Maybe just like there's simply the FIELD of SPACE-TIME, and no ether, and gravity is a devious illusion, in that straight LINES we think we see are truly CIRCLES (or is that vice versa, or is that both at once, or is that neither), EVER, all the TIES that BIND are no different than a STRING with a catnip scented fake mouse on its end, with which to entice a cat into PLAY. A win-win game that both human AND cat enjoy, AS they do it, and which can bring each one to utter Divine Radiance, in total laughter.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 4:46PM

Spare us your cut and pasting about something that does not have anything to do with the subject at hand. Enjoy your lower level Prince type music, pretty sure there is a good reason nobody knows who the hell you are talking about.

Ken (Old Texican)| 1.5.11 @ 6:31PM

Todd S,
Welcome to the conversations here in case I have not already told you.
I must warn you. RCV is a paid lier, (lawyer). He uses the law as a tool to hurt people, and he uses his posts to provoke people.
Heh, I sometimes suspect that he is a provocateur for Homeland Security.
If you back him into a logical corner, he threatens you with government sanctions.
He essentially uses the law to make war on people, then mocks them as if they were on a witness stand.
He cracked me up a couple of days ago. He thinks California is doing just fine, thankyouverymuch.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 7:03PM

Ken: Please cite me one instance -- one -- where I have ever "use[d] the law as a tool to hurt people." That's just an outright falsehood and you know it. As for "threatening government sanctions" you know well what that was about -- you made an explicit threat to shoot my children. Think about it. And as for your paranoia with Homeland Security, I don't know anyone in that agency and have had no contact with them except when they ocassionally grope me at the airport.
Any problems you might have with those folks probably stems from your habit of threatening to shoot government officials and your boasts about stockpiling weapons. All of us at TAS know its bluster on your part, but the government does take seriously all such boasts as well they should.

HAHA| 1.5.11 @ 7:46PM

RCV,
Old Tex is a silly bean, he'd not know which end of the gun to point. But he is a two time world wide best selling author. Don't you know...

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 7:41PM

Ken,
I am well aware of what RCV does being the faithful American Spectator reader I am who likes to peruse the comments and make a few of my own from time to time. He will claim to have the moral high ground and try to provoke others with his sophistry. He refers to us as "teabaggers" and claims ignorance on what it means and only knows it because of "our fixation on homosexual acts". And after using this outrageous dirty slander, he then feigns Godly kindness (may the peace of God be upon you) at which point I have had enough of his act. Nothing but an ahole lefty lawyer. Reminds me of a good joke. What do you call a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the sea? A good start

Tom| 1.5.11 @ 7:50PM

Todd,
I disagree with almost everything RCV says but I have seen leftists come in and politely post disagreements with comments and articles. And for the most part they are torn to shreds. There is no real dialogue just shouting and name calling.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 8:59PM

Tom,
He referred to us as "teabaggers" so he deserves to be torn apart. If a leftist wants to come here and politely post disagreements, I will be polite in return if I choose to reply. If they want to come here and insult us vulgarly, I will tell him he is an ahole because that is what he is. And you will also note that I asked him real questions to explain exactly what he means and refuse to let him off the hook for making statements with no facts or reason to back it up. You will note he will just ignore whatever he finds inconvenient and move on to the next thing.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 9:54PM

Please, Todd, tell me what question you asked that I failed to respond to. I tried to address every one of the posts you made, and if I missed one I'll be happy to do so this time.

Tom| 1.6.11 @ 7:55AM

Todd,
I am not talking specifically of RCV. The whole tea-bagger thing is juvenile. His excuse that he did not know what it means hold little water since he does now.

However, watch what happens when a liberal posts. It gets real ugly no matter how respectful said liberal might be. They are, to be figurative, in our house and as long as they are respectful so should we. We certainly should point out when they are wrong but what is the point of being nasty? It is one thing I do not understand about the internet, what purpose does a flame war serve?

Todd S| 1.6.11 @ 9:45AM

I get where you are coming from Tom, respectful debate should the standard we try to uphold but it is rare for liberals posting here to actually want a respectful honest debate. At its root, modern liberalism is dishonest so it is almost impossible to have honest debates with them because they hide behind a cloak of lies and deceit. RCV wants to give the appearance of wanting rational debate but that is all it is. He has the gall to tell me to not resort to name calling after he calls us tea-baggers, he doesn't deserve respect in my opinion.

RCV| 1.6.11 @ 6:07PM

Tom: BTW, I very much appreciate the thoughtfulness and civility of all your posts. You're not only a smart guy, but your mother raised you right.

Todd S| 1.6.11 @ 9:53AM

I asked you several times how exactly are the Republicans to "compromise" with Obama and the Democrats to improve the country's terrible fiscal situation? What exactly has Obama and the Democrats done to improve it? By increasing federal spending by 25% his first year in office and with an almost $1 trillion "stimulus" that failed to produce any private jobs of note? I am fully aware it stimulated government jobs and bailing out public sector unions but please explain to me how that is helping the economy? Do you think extending unemployment indefinitely is good policy? I call it welfare under a different name and making more people reliant on the government.

RCV| 1.6.11 @ 11:46AM

I used the term "cooperate" but compromise will work if you want. We have serious economic problems including jobs creation and stimulus. We need to put people to work so they can feed their families. Yes, I did support extending unemployment benefits because people need the assistance to feed their families, and spending on food, allowing people to pay their rent, does have a stimulative effect short term. I don't want people reliant on the government but I don't see an alternative short term. What do you think needs to be done SPECIFICALLY to improve the economy short term?

Todd| 1.6.11 @ 12:52PM

How about cutting the corporate tax rate to start? Japan is planning to reduce their tax rate and the US will then have the highest corporate tax rate in the industrial world, it is outrageous. How about telling the EPA to go F themselves with their planned carbon regulations, which will further increase the cost of manufacturing and putting us at a further disadvantage to the rest of the world and cause more unemployment. How about doing something about the irresponsibility of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and quit subsidizing their failed business model that is costing us hundreds of billions of dollars and threatens even larger exorbitant losses?

Do you think extending unemployment to 3 years is a short-term solution? I think it is causing long-term problems, what company will want to hire someone that was fine with living on unemployment for 3 years? Like Reagan said, if you subsidize something, you will get more of it and that is what has happened with unemployment. Do you remember how fast the economy recovered from the severe recession under Reagan? Why do you think that was and why is our present situation so different? Let me give you a clue, Obama thinks big government is the solution to everything whereas Reagan knew it was the problem.

RCV| 1.6.11 @ 1:42PM

1. I think reducing the corporate tax rate is not only smart, but necessary to remain competitive in the global economy. The proposed carbon reductions are a good idea, but should be put on hold indefinitely given the current state of the economy. I personally don't know enough at this point to make a judgment on what to do to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

2. I don't think the argument that the unemplyment assistance reduces employment has any basis in reality. It is, however, mildly stimulative. But more importantly, it was simply necessary given the lack of jobs available. I have great respect for Paul Krugman and his judgment on most economic questions.

Reagan's tax cuts were not enacted until the 6th year of his term, and went into effect in the 7th. In the first 6 years of his presidency, marginal rates topped out at 50% and the economy improved. There is simply no correlation between the top marginal rate on individuals and economic growth.

Todd S| 1.6.11 @ 2:22PM

It is not true what you said about Reagan's tax cuts or at least the complete truth. It took until then to reduce the top rate from 70% to 28% but it had been reduced from 70% to 50% by 1982. Still much too high but Reagan kept working at it until he got it where he wanted it after his second term. Here is a table for you.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/p.....w/151.html

As far as your statement as there being no correlation between top marginal rate on individuals and economic growth, that is really quite foolish. So you could just raise the rate back up to 70% and it would not have a negative economic effect? Ask New York State about whether their high taxes have helped the budget instead of chasing people out of the state. I remember Patterson foolishly gloating about chasing Limbaugh out of the state due to taxes when that was the canary in the coal mine. Rich people can be extremely mobile and can even leave the country and refuse to invest if their money here if it will be unfairly confiscated by the government. In fact, history shows when tax rates get exorbitant, people with money spend alot more time and money making sure the government doesn't get their greedy hands on it and does nothing really to increase revenues. Not to mention it is grossly unfair and unjust and very much against what the Founding Fathers believed in when they formed the Constitution.

The fact you have great respect for a demagogue and liar like Paul Krugman tells me alot about you and how you think and why this article bugged you. Krugman is an evil totalitarian little troll, he would have loved being Stalin's economic guru.

We can at least agree on the necessity of reducing corporate tax rates, there is no justification for them being so high and I have a problem with the Republicans not making this a bigger issue. The easiest way to reduce unemployment is with a tax cut and free up more cash for business to invest and hire. Obama will never stand for that though as it goes against everything he believes in.

If you are going to bring up the 2008 financial crisis, you should at least understand the role Fannie Mae and Freddic Mac played which was huge. Though it is quite an inconvenient truth for the left and much easier to blame greedy bankers and not greedy corrupt government. Here is a name for you, Franklin Raines. A corrupt greedy bastard that was allowed to get away scott free because of his powerful connections in DC. He was worse than Kenneth Lay ever was and caused far more damage.

RCV| 1.6.11 @ 2:46PM

I think you may be surprised at Obama's willingness in the next few months to consider a reduction in the corporate tax rate. Despite the constant attempts to paint him otherwise, he is more of a pragmatist tan a left ideologue, which is why the far leftists in the Democratic party (please don't bother with a "that's an oxymoron" response) are often so frustrated with him.

These are the sort of areas where a constructive approach on both sides may produce results. But I'm afraid the temptation to score points for the 2012 battle may squash any inclination to do so on the GOP side.

RCV| 1.6.11 @ 2:51PM

Paul Krugman is surely not an "evil totalitarian troll" and calling him a Stalinist is pretty silly. But if you want to be silly, I can't stop you. It's hard to discuss issues rationally though when you load an otherwise sensible discussion of issues with such nonsense.

Todd S| 1.6.11 @ 3:24PM

I have watched the little troll many times on the Sunday morning shows spewing his socialist propaganda without any regard for truth at all. I could take any NYT's article he writes and point out the blatant lies and misrepresentations that form his columns. That is not just my opinion but it can be proved by anyone who cares about what is true and logical. This is a man whose lust for power is insatiable and the John Adams quote from the article applies to precisely. This fool says the stimulus should have been much larger and that there is no fear or consequence from massively increasing our debt to fund his totalitarian dream. What is scary about him is that he actually has alot of influence in the Obama administration. To put it simply, he is a Stalinist communist at heart (the kind that wouldn't get his hands dirty personally but would love to order 5 year plans) and Karl Marx is his God. Nothing silly about it at all

Tom| 1.6.11 @ 2:45PM

RCV,
There is empirical evidence that increases in UI duration increases the duration of unemployment. You might want to read Robert Moffitt's work on interplay between UI and employment.

What complicates the matter in the current situation is the repeated extension of UI benefits. If UI benefits tend to increase unemployment, and I think most research shows it does, then the expectation of continous extensions probably does also. I am aware of no research saying so, the sample would be so small, but it is commonsensical. If the mechanism keeping people from vigorously searching for work is the cushion UI benefits give then the expectation that they may never end would lessen the incentive to find work.

RCV| 1.6.11 @ 2:49PM

At this pooint, there is little expectation on the part of anyone for future extensions given the current makeup of Congress, so the point is a moot one.

Todd S| 1.6.11 @ 3:32PM

Too much logic and facts for RCV to deal with Tom and besides as Keith Olbermann would tell you, Republicans want unemployed people to starve to death on the streets. Just wait until the extension expires next year and the media says how mean the Republicans are for not extending unemployment. Well I am sure once their 3 years run out, they can be put on the ever expanding welfare rolls because no reputable business will hire anyone who sits on their asses for 3 years collecting unemployment. Of course they will be voting for the Dems to keep the government cheese coming their way.

Todd S| 1.6.11 @ 1:15PM

So do you accept Nancy Pelosi's argument that spending money on unemployment reduces unemployment and returns 2 dollars in the economy for every dollar spent? That is the dumbest, most fallacious statement I have ever heard in my life but that is what passes for economics for liberals these days. Also do you believe as Paul Krugman does that the "stimulus" was much too small? Just spend as crazy as you want and let the magical government multiplier kick in? This line of reasoning from liberals leads to me to conclude that they are either completely ignorant from all reality or will tell any lie to expand the reach and power of government. I am not sure which one Christina Rommer fell under, it seems she actually believed that rubbish but being an academic from Berkeley she had never seen real world affects for nonsense Keynesian theories that Keynes himself wouldn't believe in.

Alessandra | 1.6.11 @ 5:27PM

Todd,
I disagree with almost everything RCV says but I have seen leftists come in and politely post disagreements with comments and articles. And for the most part they are torn to shreds. There is no real dialogue just shouting and name calling.
=============
I've just had the same experience at change.org. Not only that, I was banned and my comments were censored.
You can try any liberal site and the result is the same. If you are not quickly banned, there is a slew of hate and name calling targetting any conservative viewpoint.

Go on Daily Kos and post a conservative viewpoint. I will bet you at least 10 name-calling replies. If the subject revolves around homosexuality, make it 50 liberals slinging their slurs.

Liberals hate debate and freedom of speech.

Todd S| 1.6.11 @ 10:53PM

It is a waste of time to try to debate them when they are on their turf because they will behave like you said. RCV gets much more respect and tolerance here than any of us would ever get on the Daily Kos and RCV knows it is true. I will debate a liberal on the issues any time and keep it civil but when they think they can make vulgar insults here like RCV did, he should be torn to shreds for it. That goes for any other liberal putz that wants to post here, this isn't a place for the faint of heart and those afraid of confrontation.

Bob| 1.5.11 @ 6:50PM

NJ Governor Crisco is a fat pig...that's the truth. Next time Jersey has a blizzard make Governor Fat Head shovel the snow, he needs the exercise.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 7:20PM

What are you, a Seventh Grader?

Ken (Old Texican)| 1.5.11 @ 8:28PM

Todd S,
I have NEVER threatened RCVs children. That is simply another communist, (pardon the shorthand), LIE.
I write my posts on word and then post them here as pastes. I have every serious thought I have ever posted here on file...especially the thoughts directed at communists, (again, pardon the shorthand).
Mr. RCV thinks California is doing just fine. He needs smelts to bait his fishing line I suppose. Heh.
No matter that the California bread-basket is now a desert.
Tom,
I'm sorry you feel that way. See, Leftists like being "polite" with soft words...until they impoverish you in corrupt courts. It is called "law-fare warfare".
I have hired and retained LOTS of lawyers for forty years plus.
I have had to fire some of them while actually on a witness stand. I don't LIKE lawyers lying ...even on my behalf.
I have tried my best to enlighten the RCVs of the world...to no avail.
Evidently, they are "locked" into their SIN. (Definition: over against God.)

I'm of two minds. On the one hand, I want to enjoin them to let the joy of God into their lives. On the other hand, I realize that they are SOLD to evil....soft words notwithstanding.

Finally, I am not writing only to the RCVs of the world, but to the tens of thousands of "lurkers" here.
Each one of them can make the call.
Actually, I appreciate the RCVs here. There does need to be a line drawn in the sand. (The Alamo), and good and evil need to be defined.
Make the call.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 9:18PM

Ken,
I think I remember when RCV accused you of threatening to kill him and his family by taking an innocuous comment out of context and laughing at his phony outrage. What a putz. Not sure what he is trying to accomplish with his constant posting here other than trying to be a pain in the ass. What else are lawyers good for? Always appreciate your posts Ken and setting the jerks straight.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 9:51PM

Just I thought - unable to back up the blatant falsehood you just made up, Ken. You've shown yourself to be the liar that you are. And your threat to shoot my children was explicit and graphic, and undoubtedly made in one of your drunken late night states. You are a sad commentary for a man and I want nothing more to do with the sorry likes of you.

Todd S| 1.5.11 @ 10:43PM

RCV,
Aren't lawyers suppose to know that the proof of evidence is required on the part of the accuser and not the accused? Feel free to go elsewhere if you don't want to have anything to do with him, no one will miss you.

RCV| 1.5.11 @ 11:09PM

Yes. Ken stated above that I was a person who " used the law to hurt people" and I asked him to provide one fact to back up that blatant slander. He can't.

Tom| 1.6.11 @ 8:00AM

Ken,
No liberal or lawyer can impoverish me with words because what I believe is both true and just. When they lie I point it out, and it is ever so easy to now Google is a conservatives best friend, and hope they learn. There are people who are liberal simply because they live in an echo chamber of liberal speech. The liberal media has done a good job of brainwashing people. The Spectator, and hopefully those who comment on its pages, should serve as an antidote to that brainwashing.

I know intelligent dialogue can convert a liberal because I have seen it happen. Personally. Realizing one's cherished assumptions are wrong is a difficult and actually emotionally draining. Who likes knowing they were so very wrong?

RRF| 1.6.11 @ 2:24PM

Excellent speech on same theme:

http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/.....p;month=01

Michael| 1.8.11 @ 3:44PM

Fatuous nonsense. Lady, you should be mortified that, as a human adult, you believe in an imaginary magical buddy. And I am disgusted that you use the word "truth" - it drips off your page, an unclean and corrupt mockery of truth.

Your thesis is that America cannot stand any perversion of truth at any level. The truth is that America has withstood a mangling of truth for her entire history and is now enduring the waning of a virulent religion swindle. A scam you are perpetuating as a victim/perpetrator.

1) The latest Gallup poll (December 17, 2010) on the matter reports that 40% of Americans believe the Universe was created les than 10,000 years ago by God, just like their iron-age holy text tells them. That's 120 million people who are so disconnected from any serious understanding of themselves or the world around them, that they will believe any fool thing. That 40% is actually less than it has been in a long time, and so represents an "improvement". Hey Fabrizio, I bet you run with that crowd. That's not the worst of it, though. The National Science Foundation polls scientific literacy yearly and reports that about 20% of Americans, yep, about 50 million American adults, believe the Sun revolves around the Earth. It's like Galileo was burned at the stake by the Church before he could get the word out in their world.

2) About 60% of Americans think the Noachian Deluge actually happened as described in Genesis. A 2004 ABC News poll found that 60% of Americans believe that it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, covering the entire Earth above the highest mountains and killing all terrestrial life not on Noah's Ark about 5,500 years ago. That's right, about 180 million idiot Americans who understand so little science and whose critical thinking ability is such trash that they believe that nonsense. Taking bets that Fabrizio is all-in on this bundle of crazy too.

3) Come on... let's interrogate "truth" as you see it. Which of these bits of the Big Lie do you believe?
a) Jesus was born of a virgin. (Where did his y-chromosome come from and whose y-chromosome was it?)
b) Jesus replicated a few fishes and loaves of bread and fed 5,000 and later 4,000. (Might have been nice to share that technology and save billions who have died of starvation since, not to mention the environmental benefits)
c) Jesus cured blindness, muteness, epilepsy, and leprosy by casting out the demons that cause those ailments (Modern medecine, with its germ theories and blather about bacteria, viruses, and genes has it all wrong - its DEMONS all the way down!)
d) Jesus came back from the dead. (Xombies! brains... brains... BRAINS!)

4) Lastly, let's talk about "moral truth". It's obvious to me you don't think about morality. But I could be wrong. Which of the following "moral truths" straight out of God's mouth-like appurtenance do YOU adhere to?

a) Kill the infidels even your kids
Deuteronomy 13: 6-11
"6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
11And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you."

b) kill those who work on Sunday (or Saturday ?)
Exodus 35:2
" Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

c) and of course everyone's favorite... kill the homosexual
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."

I am betting that you come up with some silly song-adn-dance about how those plain words don't really mean what they say or they don't apply any more or some such nonsense.

Just stop. You and truth are not friends, you have never been confidants, and truth just wants you to stop using her name.

Martin Michaels| 1.10.11 @ 6:20PM

Michael - The devil quotes verses to suit his needs. I feel sorry for people who do not believe in God, because you will never understand what true truth is, until it is too late. You mock the Old Testament in whose verses are the condemnation of homosexuality. You mock Jesus and His miracles in the New Testament. In fact, the New Testament (in other words, Jesus. the Christ) DO, in fact, overrule some of what the Old Testament states. That was the purpose of Jesus' birth...The Old Testament was strongly rooted in rules and honestly, the vengeance of God. But even God learns - so He sent His son to make a better way - one rooted in love and forgiveness, and which did not single out the Jews for reward/redemption, but allowed a path even for the worst of Gentiles, perhaps even homosexuals...Now THAT is truth...

mixplix| 1.9.11 @ 6:04AM

This site is an education within its self. Very enjoyable, I'll be back to read some more.

Fairfis| 1.9.11 @ 9:17AM

The truth is, a lot of this article isn't very true. For starters: "our Constitution, the oldest operating governing document on the Earth". Obviously the author didn't really read this document. It refers to the "Bill of Rights", enacted 1689, which is still "in operation" and governs the relation between parlament, government and Monarch in the United. Kingdom. Then there is the constitution of San Marino, still in effect today, written 1600, hell there is even an american constitution (the one of Massachusetts, in effect since 1780) which is older then the US-Constitution. You may argue, that the US-Constitution is the oldest Constitution of a Nation still in effect, but the term "oldest operating governing document" is just not describing reality.

Jimmy| 1.10.11 @ 12:24PM

Truth is a Person:
the Person of Truth, the Holy Spirit!

Michael R Martin| 1.10.11 @ 12:33PM

WOW! I really enjoyed the article and the comments. I have been reading comments to articles on so many websites over the years but I have never come across so much inteligence in one place as here. I have found a new home. Thank you all.

Martin Michaels| 1.10.11 @ 3:19PM

Personally, I think it should be a tradition to read the Constitution at the beginning of every session of Congress. It is ridiculous to me that lawmakers will pass a bill, let alone vote on one that they have not READ (Does anyone remember Pelosi's comment "you have to pass it to find out what is in it"?)... I think they should also read the Ten Commandments out loud, and not just at the beginning of a session - how about once a month or even once a week! There is no such thing as "separation of church and state". If more people bothered to read, these idiots trying to undermine our traditional* values would have no voice. *The same values that once made our nation great, and could again... Judeo-Christian values. This country was not formed as a "melting pot" but by commonality...the commonality of these self-same values.

Jim Agans| 1.11.11 @ 2:35PM

I am really tired of the bad rap that Pontius Pilate has gotten over the ages. As a student of history, I am constantly amazed at how history is twisted. Pontius Pilate was a Roman officer put in charge of a small town in complete upheaval where Religious Zealots were trying to have an innocent man executed because he did not concur with their beliefs. Roman law allowed one sentenced man to be released . Pilate very cleverly put up Barabas, a known thief and murderer thinking that surely the masses would free Jesus and mark Barabas for execution, instead of the innocent man . The zealots chose to free Barabas, thereby sentencing the innocent man to death, yet Pontius Pilate has been blamed for the death of Jesus of Nazareth for all these years. Jesus was a Jew, and though the sentence was carried out by Romans, it was issued by Jews. This is not a condemnation of Jews, because if Jesus came back today, he would probably be put to death again by whichever society in which he decided to appear. If you want truth, you have to be big enough to handle it. Then you can correct your mistakes.

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