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The race hounds at the New York Times out Haley Barbour as a racist.

The race hounds at the New York Times, who don’t miss a thing, have nabbed Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour trying cross the border into Presidential territory posing as an ordinary citizen.

Barbour is the subject of a cover story by Andy Ferguson in this week’s Weekly Standard. The story was not on the newsstands one day before, according to Times reporter Michael D. Shear, “Media Matters, a liberal organization, sent e-mail messages to reporters Monday urging coverage of the comments.” So naturally, the Times had to comply. “Derrick Johnson, president of the Mississippi N.A.A.C.P. told Huffington Post, ‘It’s beyond disturbing — it’s offensive that he would take that approach to the history of the state,’” he reports.

Here’s what Barbour did. Talking about his boyhood in Yazoo City during the Civil Rights Era, Barbour recalled that the White Citizens Council — a feared source of violence in other parts of the state — played an entirely different role in his hometown. 

“In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan” would be “run out of town,” Mr. Barbour said. “If you had a job, you’d lose it. If you had a store, they’d see nobody shopped there. We didn’t have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City.”

“I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” Barbour remarks, obviously referring to his hometown experience, not the general condition of African-Americans across the state. He recalls that race relations were so relaxed that when Martin Luther King came to give a speech in 1962, both whites and blacks turned out to hear him. Here is Ferguson’s report:

Did you go? I asked.

“Sure, I was there with some of my friends.”

I asked him why he went out.

“We wanted to hear him speak.”

I asked what King had said that day.

“I don’t really remember. The truth is, we couldn’t hear very well. We were sort of out there on the periphery. We just sat on our cars, watching the girls, talking, doing what boys do. We paid more attention to the girls than to King.”

Well, it’s obvious what’s going on here, right? Barbour is a racist! (He was 15 at the time.) After all, there are no innocent bystanders in politics, right? If you weren’t standing on the front lines, arms crossed, singing “We Shall Overcome,” then you are as guilty as anyone.

I was in Mississippi as a volunteer during the “Freedom Summer” of 1964. (A play I’ve written about that summer was produced this fall in Nyack, N.Y.) At the orientation, Bob Moses, the great civil right pioneer, told us there were three types of towns in the state: 1) places where there was very little violence, 2) places where the authorities could “turn the violence on and off,” and 3) places where no one could control the violence. Yazoo City was obviously a place where the establishment could not only turn the violence on and off but run it out of town as well. As Ferguson reports, Yazoo City’s school integration in 1970 was probably the smoothest in the state. “The national reporters presented the city to the world as a model of how integration at its best could work,” says Ferguson. Willie Morris, the revered editor of Harper’s and another son of Yazoo City, reported at the time, “By the middle of the day, it was quite apparent that Yazoo City had indeed integrated its schools calmly and deliberately.”

All this is no reflection on Barbour, who was off at college when it all happened. But it does show that there were good people and bad people in Mississippi and for the most part the good people eventually prevailed. Only liberals intent on keeping the nation perpetually divided over race would conclude any different.

About the Author

William Tucker is news editor for RealClearEnergy.org.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (388) |

Intelligent Design| 12.22.10 @ 6:25AM

The Demo-Socialists, media, and assorted "civil rights" (extortionist) groups are spreading propaganda. They want voters to think that simply by talking about race, a conservative proves that he's a racist. Liberals are the true racists when they promote affirmative action, quotas, and federally-funded abortion-on-demand.

Shamus| 12.22.10 @ 7:23AM

Racemongers are still hard at work.

Eric Cartman| 12.22.10 @ 9:12AM

What would they do otherwise?

Mistah Kaptili$m| 12.22.10 @ 2:03PM

Man, that Haley Barbour is a hog. Take a look at those jowls. Scroll back and look at the roll of fat beneath his chin.

He may not be a racist, but he's a glutton--that's for sure.

And Happy Kwanzaa and Happy Holidays from Mistah Kaptili$m.

Eric Cartman| 12.22.10 @ 2:49PM

Those jowels sacre ya, eh? See them shake as they say "Tax cuts" and "Repeal all this Socialism" Oooooo. Boo!

And Happy Eric Cartman Day! I have my own made up holiday, too! Weeeeeeeeee!

joli| 12.22.10 @ 3:07PM

Cartman, you crack me up!

Skippy| 12.22.10 @ 3:21PM

Ron "Karenga" Elliot's bogus racist holiday is an affront to legitimate blacks and their admirable efforts to rise above the past.
You stay classy, Mistah Gangstah scum!

A.M. Mallett| 12.22.10 @ 4:46PM

All black people are tall with skinny butts and they all eat arugula ... oh no, wait, those are the half white people.

Negro X| 12.22.10 @ 5:16PM

He isn't a racist but you are a moron, insert kwanzaa into your anus.

Bruce Michael Anderson | 12.22.10 @ 3:56PM

I do So write , if he is a racist, then what is Obama, doing fallowing in the foot prints of those that created World War Two as with his acts of treason sending Aid to the foes of the United States throu the foes of our allies as we are at war with Islam What is he doing sending Aid to help Islam in Gaza.
Obama & Clinton Should not be seeking to send Aid to our Enemies through the Enemies of our Allies through Gaza. Where is the cry of treason as we are at War With Islam
Treason Article 3 Section 3 US Constitution Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them,
or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort
http://www.tellchildrenthetruth.com/arafat_en.html

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:47AM

So, you took this article's misinformation, hook, line and sinker? Of course, Barbour didn't think it was that bad - he was white, and probably oblivious at the time. But ...
Isn't it telling that the name of the organization is the "White Citizens Council" ? And, that full name had the "White" omitted by Barbour. Purposely? Who knows? But ....

In a 1956 article in Commentary David Halberstam describes the White Citizens Council as an organization determined to "not just oppose integration in the public schools but to stop or at least postpone it. In most of the the Deep South, where hostility to integration is nearly universal, it is this militancy and dedication that make the Council member stand out. Despite occasional efforts by supporters to build the Councils up into a movement of broad conservatism, their only serious purpose is to fight the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Not only do they contest the NAACP's desegregation suits, but they seek to cancel much else that the Negro has gained over the last half-century by keeping him out of the voting booth."

This may very well be his "Maccaca moment" and we won't be hearing from Barbour in the future.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 9:58AM

Hey PurplePuke, maybe you missed the part of the article where it said that not all parts of MS were like Philadelphia (MS). Only race baiting simpletons like you would think that "all Southern white folks are the same. Its guilt by association" That makes you the bigot that you claim to hate so badly. Way to go, putz.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:19AM

I never said the words in your quotation marks. Why do you feel compelled to lie? So what you are trying to stir up? You agree with Barbour?

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 11:43AM

You know as much about formal writing as you do the Constitution. Which is to say, not much at all. Quotation marks can be used to show sarcasm too, simpleton. Go back to 8th grade English class & learn something before opening your claptrap.

David Thompson| 12.22.10 @ 12:47PM

We don't need this, NavyBrat. Go home.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 2:18PM

What don't you need? I don't recall seeing your name on this site with any frequency. I'll stay here as long as I like punking out people like PurplePuke when they write their insipid & inane comments. Don't like it? Too bad. Maybe you're the one that needs to go home, Junior.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:12PM

Oh, NavyBrat:

I love your stuff. It's nice to run into other Jewish Conservatives. Happy Belated Hannukah and New Year's, and G-d Bless you and thanks for your wonderful writing.

Eric Cartman| 12.22.10 @ 1:50PM

PS: Happy Belated Hannukah from me, too. Did you see chef Ramsey's Christmas vittles? The Salmon salad niçoise with coddled eggs! Oof! To die for. I found his recipe online. Check it out: http://www.goodtoknow.co.uk/re.....ddled-eggs

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 2:20PM

Right back at you, my friend. Hope your Hannukah was a good one & I wish you all the best in the New Year!

Eric Cartman| 12.22.10 @ 1:31PM

Hee hee. Go Navy. Purpledupe is in the throws of Post-Obama Post-traumatic Stress Disorder. He lashes out at any conservative who could challenge his god, Obama. He would run into a big rock and kill himself if an old, white, southern gentleman who slightly resembles Deputy Dog and has a Mississippi drawl beat his Lefty Hipster Dufus.

Fort Benning Soldier| 12.22.10 @ 2:12PM

At last!

Declaring that members of the military will no longer be asked to LIE, President Barack Obama fulfilled a campaign promise Wednesday and signed a landmark law repealing the ban on gay men and women serving OPENLY in the armed services.

Me, and a bunch of my buddies down here in Georgia are celebrating the news! Just wanted to rub it in to your homophobic noses here at AmSpec. When the gays sign up in droves, the nation's military forces' IQ will shoot up a few points.
Good news all the way round.

Eric Cartman| 12.22.10 @ 2:32PM

Well you just sashay right up to your Sgt and tell him how gay you are right now. And if Gays are so smart, how come they keep confusing their rear orifice "Out Door" with an "In Door"? And how come they keep gerbils in there? Seems pretty stupid to me.

A.M. Mallett| 12.22.10 @ 4:50PM

Cool ... all the homosexuals all in one place and in harms way. Great strategy!

Cpm| 12.22.10 @ 5:41PM

DADT was created so we wouldn't have to know when you and your "buddies" are "rubbing it in".

beebop| 12.23.10 @ 4:06AM

One of the least intelligent people I ever knew was gay.

Saying all gays and lesbians are smart is akin to telling me that all women are great cooks, men drive cars with skill and all school children like to read.

I pity your narrow view of any one group, but that is your perogative.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 2:22PM

Cartman, I just checked out that nicoise recipe & printed it out. I'm gonna try it sometime this weekend. Thanks for the link!

Eric Cartman| 12.22.10 @ 2:36PM

You're welcome, NB. We are too - maybe for New Years (we're all loaded up for Christmas dinner. Wife hijacked the menu this time lol) Have a wonderful season and be careful out there. Global warming is falling all over ;-)

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 2:51PM

Yeah, its gonna be a fun death defying trip from here in Da Burgh up to Erie to see the in-laws. There's MORE than enough "glo-bull" warming to go around up there!

:-)

joli| 12.22.10 @ 3:10PM

Deputy Dog! Waaaaahahahahaha!

Boomerbabe| 12.24.10 @ 2:42AM

Deputy Dawg, Eric.

Charles Martel| 12.22.10 @ 1:36PM

Yes, you simpleton, we agree with Barbour: a lot of Southerners were more tolerant than their Northern contemporaries, and in many places, integration proceeded smoothly and with barely a hiccup.

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W| 12.22.10 @ 4:42PM

Ignore Purple, he previously posted as TedR. Just another lefty liberal with nothing to say, same old lefty rant. Probably a seminar lefty posting on conservative sites. Ignore him, and he will go back to watching MSNBC

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 7:44PM

Never heard the name, but others remember me .. I'm no coward to hind behind false or other names. I say what I mean and mean what I say. Too bad y'all can't be more tolerant of others, like the Good Book and Jesus plead with you.

Tom near Boston| 12.22.10 @ 10:00PM

Hi Purpleguy,
I agree people shouldn't call names or hide behind fake IDs. But your comments still bug me.

I suppose Jesus does ask us to be more tolerant when he commands us to love one another, and to pray for our enemies. But that's if you accept the old understanding of "tolerant" meaning hearing somebody out respectfully.
But nowadays peop lefties have bent "tolerant" to mean never being allowed to discern the truth or falsehood in what your fellow man is saying. Think that's what Jesus commanded and demonstrated? Any of these sound familiar?
"You think that I have come to bring peace? No, I bring not peace but a sword, for I have come to set a man against his father, a mother against her daughter . . . "
"You hypocrites! You brood of vipers! How can you escape being condemned to hell?"
Jesus did not "tolerate" error. I only pray that he has mercy on me, a great sinner. May he have mercy on you, too, Purpleguy. And even Alan Brooks (shudder).
Oh, and since I presume "Purpleguy" refers to you being neither "red" nor "blue:"
"Because you are neither hot nor cold, because you are lukewarm -- I spit you out!"
Merry Christmas.

W| 12.22.10 @ 10:13PM

Does your Good Book instruct you to insult all persons who disagree with you left wing politics, and adopt a smug attitude? I will believe you actually read a Good Book when i see some evidence of it. Before you preach and mention the name Jesus and the Good Book, you should lead by example.
Merry Christmas

pockets64| 12.22.10 @ 10:03AM

For those of us familiar with the "Maccaca moment," it is rather fitting you clump the plastering of Barbour with the other. The Maccaca thing was trumped-up BS. It looks as though this is the same.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:06AM

Only a insensitive bigot would not see the comparison ... nor realize what the Maccaca moment actually meant.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 11:31AM

Were Reid's or Biden's comments about about Barry being a black man suitable (paraphrasing) to run for president a Maccaca moment. They were racist to the core?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:41PM

They are not President are they? 'Nuf said.

beebop| 12.23.10 @ 4:11AM

Biden is one breath away from the presidency. Halley is no comparison. Does the left want to vilify everyone in the center and center/right? Perhaps they would be better served doing some basic reporting on those who are in power?

But that's just one woman's opinion. Enough said.

LarryK| 12.22.10 @ 11:39AM

First, it's clear Barbour was making a very different claim than what the MSM is reporting. He is saying only that the Klan was not a problem in Yazoo City, MS, largely because the (White) Citizens' Council kept the Klan out of power. That is a positive thing, but it does not exonerate the Council from other actions it took to delay or deprive blacks from obtaining Civil Rights. It is clear Barbour was making a very limited claim, and in fact has now said that he never supported the Council's broader policies.

Second, the 'macaca' moment was an absolute crock. It was a throwaway line, using a non-existent slur (in fact, a non-existent word). If any Democratic politician said it, it would have never even been reported, and it doesn't begin to compare to the racial slurs that current Democratic leaders have made about Obama (e.g. Bill Clinton -'a couple decades ago this guy would be bringing us coffee,' Biden 'the first clean, articulate negro,' Reid etc. etc.) . It was a media-manufactured pseudo-event, pure and simple.

LarryK| 12.22.10 @ 11:56AM

Hey, That's my name!

chester arthur| 12.22.10 @ 7:50PM

'Maccaca moment'? You must mean like saying that white people are like that,or that some people cling to their guns and religion?How about rev. Sharpton,who calls it 'macoacoa' in between Tawana Brawley type moments of real live racism?Moments like rev. Wright provided over 20 years.I guess those don't count in the world of the free-thinkers-in-lockstep.Maccaca moments must just be in the eye of the loon that invents them.

Lisa| 12.23.10 @ 5:35PM

Oh, you mean when Barry called his dying grandmother "a typical white person", then promptly tossed her under the bus for his BFF Racist Rev. Wrong?

Steve A| 12.22.10 @ 10:32AM

Wow. Purple strikes again. 1956 is just sooooooo relevant to the discussion.

Anthony| 12.22.10 @ 10:35AM

Ah yes, "Maccaca" still lives in the minds and hearts of all good lefties. Never let a good orchestrated MSM slander go to waste.
So says the "good book" of Saint Alinsky.
Now that the White Citizens Council is a long dead anarchism of the past, and America has elected its first post racial, post partisan president, we can expect to see Purpleguy demand the disbanding of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Right Purpleguy, or is your maccaca stuck down your throat?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:11AM

Your insensitivity is showing ... typical conservative response - you don't care, so it's a non-issue. Just like Trent Lott harking back to the racist Dixiecrat party and Strom Thurmond blew up in his face, when will you Cons realize that what you say about the past can still hurt and therefore haunt you in the present?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 11:23AM

And YOUR racism is showing. Yes, that's right. YOU are the racist here. He who pulls the race card IS the racist.

Anthony| 12.22.10 @ 11:29AM

Ah yes, Trent's innocuous comments made at Thurmond's 100th birthday party, as the man was dying. You are indeed a piece of work, Purpleguy.
How is it that Clinton's recent comments, upon the death of Robert (KKK sheets) Byrd, that he had to join the Klan in order to get elected, don't bother you? you fraud.
The only things that still haunts us Cs are fools like you. Hopefully, that nightmare will soon end.
P.S. You haven't a clue what the word "maccaca" means. You just ran with it, along with the hacks at the WaPo.
You are a pathetic useful idiot, who will be scraped off the soon to be discarded shoes of leftism.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:12PM

Who said it didn't bother me? Why do you all think that when you can point out hypocrisy or racism on the left, it makes it okay on the right? Didn't your Mommy teach you that you don't jump off the bridge, just because Johnny did?

Macaca is a pejorative epithet used by francophone colonialists in Central Africa's Belgian Congo for the native African population. It may be derived from the name of the genus comprising macaque monkeys. The word macaque has also been used as a racial slur. The macaque's genus name, Macaca, is a latinization of the Bantu (Kongo) ma-kako, meaning "monkey". A subtle reference in this country, but since George Allen's mother was Tunisian, hardly not a racial slur....

Anthony| 12.22.10 @ 2:55PM

Oh Purpleguy,what a transparent dope you are. So it took you over 2 1/2 hours to Google "Maccaca" in a pathetic attempt to show how clever you are. Wow, I'm impressed.
No doubt, George Allen was thinking about francophone colonists of the the Belgian Congo and ma-kakos when he uttered his off the cuff comment. Proof positive the man's a racist, you've nailed it big guy.
Besides, who knew our elected officials were that smart? I bet 1/2 of all congress could not tell us what continent the congo is in. Well, except Shirley Jackson Lee, who once asked if the Martian rover would show where the astronauts planted the flag.
I think Allen also said you can see Russia from the Belgian Congo, but I may be wrong on this. And if I'm not mistaken, didn't Arlen Spector in his last speech in the Senate called Justices Alito and Roberts colonialists?
By the way, if George Allen's mother was Tunisian, doesn't that give Allen a "get out of racial jail free card" to make this comment? We need to check with the Justice Bros on this, that being the Rev's Sharpton and Jackson.
And if it's not a racial slurr, why do you and other lefties still refer to it as one?
O.K. enough of you, I'm off to Christmas shop.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 7:52PM

Well, I leave y'all enuf time to concoct your remarkably witty answers to refute. It is true you can google macaca, but did you forget what the racist George Allen had hanging in his office - yep, that's it, the Confederate flag ... combined with what IS considered a racial slur in N. Africa, his political career ended. Why y'all take it so lightly when you've actually seen powerful politicians' careers end over racist remarks or actions. George Allen's presidential aspirations went up in smoke as did Trent Lott's career.
Now, when Vitter is caught prostituting around, and Ensign is caught screwing around with a mistress and pulling strings to get her family jobs, the country forgives and moves on.

Not so on the race front. When y'all wake up and realize the hurt is deep, the wound heals slowly, and some words are unforgivable. It is quite similar regarding the gay issue - where's" teen boy" loving Foley, "wide-stance "Larry Craig now?
On the left racism is not easily forgiven... while on the right closet homosexuality is not easily forgiven or forgotten.

Anthony| 12.22.10 @ 9:02PM

Goodness, I'm back from Christmas shopping, fed the family, checking in at TAS, and Purpleguy's still at it. Who needs time to refute a moron like you? You're bush league kid; responding to you, as they say in the hood, "Ain't no thing".
First, spare us your condescending y'alls. You couldn't hold a candle to a real Southern Man; Oh, I forgot, I think you said in post # 15 that you lived in the south. Given your nasty mouth, and hatred for all things American, I bet those good ole boys made you the queen of the prom, or is it belle of the ball?
Second, I'm from the Bronx, so I don't speak southern. Got it fool?
Third, did I read in your post # 140 that you are a retired Air Force Captain? Who the hell are you kidding?? Only D whores seeking political fame use their military bona fides to writes or speak about America and the south the way you do.
If you're former military, then I'm the Queen of England, or Prince Charles. Actually, make that Princess Di.
Well, take that back, you could be related to the Army puke private who leaked all to Assange.
Birds of a feather.
Y'all have a good night, yahear.

D1| 12.27.10 @ 4:22AM

You're a genius. Allen's mother is from Tunisia, therefore she would know the racial slurs of the Belgian Congo. And of course, would have taught them to George Allen.

Twit, the distance between Tunisia and the Congo is about the width of the US---and then, they're different countries with many countries between them. You say that the word is a racial slur in north Africa--claiming that it is a racial slur in a central African country among a part of a past population.

So these African countries---do they all look alike to you, PurpleGuy? You're geographically, culturally, and linguistically challenged. "Macaca" is not a racial slur anywhere near Tunisia, but hey, you think that if Africa has one name, everyone in it is next door and linguistic neighbors. Brilliant.

Brubaker| 12.22.10 @ 11:47AM

At what point will you and your fellow travelers stop crying racism at every turn? The very clear reality is that real racism in this country is long dead. We are left now with racial ambulance-chasers like you who see, or claim to see, racism behind every tree.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 7:56PM

Assuming you are white, I find you have no credibility on determining when/how racism is dead. If I am wrong, explain to me why you are in a position to judge what you say.
And, I, and others like me will stop when you and others like you stop racism when you see it, in yourself and others, and stop downplaying racism like it's a non-issue. When you start caring to look behind every tree to expunge it, then maybe we'll be there.

beebop| 12.23.10 @ 4:20AM

"And, I, and others like me will stop when you and others like you stop racism when you see it"

This is such a hoot.

Please tell me that you raise your hand to intolerance where ever you see it?

It is not my responsibility to mitigate against the disturbing thoughts or practices of anyone other than myself. Whether that be racism, sexism (which dems practiced in abundance during the clinton/obama primary), homophobia, religious bigotry, etc.

Your argument has dropped to the lowest possible argument of "it's not fair." Welcome to life.

Merry Christmas

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 12:06PM

Dear Purpleguy:

I lived in a place where there was a sign warning Blacks to be out of town by dark in the 1960s. They treated this Jewish guy quite well.

Simply living in a place that has a racist past, and saying that you had a nice childhood, does not make you a racist. Both my kids are Native Americans adopted from Guatemala. Humans are complex, not simple.

Obama, incidentally, is an antisemitic jerk.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 12:08PM

Oh, and my relatives in the place with the racist past have treated my kids better than my Liberal Jewish parents. Get over it, Purpleguy.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 7:59PM

That was not the issue, dude. I'm sure many Germans could feel the same way prior to WWII. Everything was fine for THEM. But after the holocaust became well known, documented, videos, and tried - can you imagine them saying similar things downplaying the holocaust, because they were oblivious to it.

What matters is once they knew, what did they do. And, Haley Barbour agrees he made a mistake and is back tracking as fast as he can .. or didn't Fixed News tell you about that?

beebop| 12.23.10 @ 4:26AM

"or didn't Fixed News tell you about that?"

Let he who demands tolerance be the first to practice it.

You must have missed Jesse Jackson's quote:

"There is nothing more painful to me than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and to start thinking about robbery than to look around and see somebody who is white and feel relieved."

idalily| 12.23.10 @ 2:25PM

If you think things were "fine" for the Germans prior to and during WWII, you know absolutely nothing about 20th century history. And the Germans DID downplay what happened afterward; for a long time, Hitler was a passing mention in German school history books. In comparison, Barbour's comments are trivial, at most. Please do your research before you post drivel like this.

Simon Templar| 12.22.10 @ 12:59PM

I am going to make an historical proclamation today like the one that citizens made at the McCarthy hearings.
On this day, 12.22.10 day of our Lord, you Purple Guy and all the Left Wing of Politics will no longer hold the special and absolute position of harbinger and definer of politically correct values, policies, history, attitudes, sexual practices, and reality in general. Nor shall you have the power to determine without question who is racist, who is not, who is sexist, who is not and all other "ist" that you have defined. You will on this day forward be seen for what you are....an arrogant, manipulative, self deluded, self appointed blow hard that seeks power by any means necessary.
Or put simply, no one died and made you God, and by the way you do not believe in God anyway!

Charles Martel| 12.22.10 @ 1:38PM

Purple, you have it backwards: it's a non-issue, therefore I don't care. Get it right.

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Eric Cartman| 12.22.10 @ 1:53PM

Look! Purplegump is getting the vapors. "Oh, my! A made up word! The tragedy! Oh, Brett! Fetch my salts!" What a weak-knead putz.

Danny| 12.22.10 @ 2:27PM

You mean, the past can still hurt like Kleagle Byrd's past hurst him. That's the point -- for you liberals, hurt only goes in one direction, towards conservatives. Your icons demonstrably could do (and have done) much worse than you claim conservative have done with nary a peep from you.

Golly it's fun demolishing liberal stupidity!

Cpm| 12.22.10 @ 5:44PM

I can't wait until you tear into the Congressional (Black) Caucus.

Eric| 12.22.10 @ 6:37PM

oh geez, does anyone have a memory longer than last week? It was the Bush White House that leaked the Strom Thurmond comment that Trent Lott made -- they knew the press would eat it up, because they wanted to get rid of Trent. They knew he was a liability. Liberals didn't go after him....that was a set up.

And if you do think about it, the senator was only trying to make a man who was almost 100 years old feel good. No matter the horrible things you have done in your life, people do deserve the occasional act of respect -- especially if you're close to the end.

BTW - Trent Lott was eight years old when Thurmond ran for President. You think Trent remembers anything about that era? I highly doubt it.

Just another liberal race-baiting (even though republicans threw him to the wolves) episode. If this was such a horrible issue, why wasn't Reid forced out for his comments....or worse yet, why was Robert Byrd allowed to continue in the Senate even after being a member of the KKK - from 1940 to 1947 (at the very least)...and not only that, he was trying to prop up the Klan as a statewide organization in West Virginia....

Liberal hypocrisy is amazing -- how do you sleep at night?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:06PM

What a bunch of Rush Loudmouth rhetoric. He gives you license to be as stupid as you want, doesn't he?
How a problem comes to light matters less the problem that was highlighted with Trent Lott. His remarks were insensitive to those who don't have fond memories of the Dixiecrat party or the Jim Crow South, etc. And, altho he was only 8 at the time, he sure knew better as an adult, and so had paid the price.
Why the others were not thrown out, you have to ask why the African-American population was not outraged at them, I don't know. I suspect it's no different than when you say "Hey, you can't call my friend stupid - only I can do that! " But when a non-friend does it, well, now that's another thing isn't ...?

Why do I feel like I'm talking to 14 yr olds that should know these things? Did you not learn it the first time through your teen years? What makes you regress to the "Oh, yeah, well, take that " attitude instead of a cogent, lucid debate on the topic?

NotPJORourke| 12.22.10 @ 11:24AM

You forgot a key component of the "Macaca Moment" it was ON TAPE. Barbour's comments aren't even in the same class as Allen's, but the most important thing is that this, or the far more damning paraphrase (NOT a Quote) from the NYTimes piece in '82 that had Barbour making a terrible comment about Blacks & watermelons is that neither are on tape, Allen was vulnerable to being cast as a racist based on vague comments told third hand, but all those rumor were around for a long time without anyone taking notice because until people could SEE and HEAR Allen say "Macaca" there was no anchor to the story.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:16PM

Wrong - it was a radio program and by definition it has been taped. What you mean is that it hasn't hit Youtube...
But to your argument that long held racist views are not a problem, until proven by video - you are correct in that video cements the memory - but you are still a racist nonetheless if you said it off tape.

Redstateboy| 12.22.10 @ 1:41PM

ja'ever think you're a blithering idiot? The latest Census data proves it. Millions of your fellow Liber-uls are (as your idol - Lenin said: "voting with their feet") by leaving their Liber-ul utopia's and heading where?? Free Conservative Republican Red States. Does that even register with you?? Your entire lifes political philosophy is being utterly refuted and here you are still sputtering this silly Liber-ul BS of yours. Do us all a favor and grow up - ya Bananahead.

Big Leo| 12.22.10 @ 2:13PM

You quote a left wing magazine as a fair source on the question? The tragedy is, you're serious. No wonder nobody takes progressives seriously any more.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:18PM

Do your own research, you lazy dittohead

Kris Lepine| 12.22.10 @ 3:09PM

Let's see....do you object to the name of the Black Caucus or the NAAof ColoredPeople? No, I didn't think so. Typical hypocrite reaction and it took place how many years ago?

Skippy| 12.22.10 @ 3:24PM

Halberstam was the darling of the literate left for decades because he never found anything about America he couldn't denigrate and disrespect.
America sucked for him, as it does for all leftists.
They cannot abide liberty. Ever.

Haley's Comet| 12.22.10 @ 4:04PM

Hey PurpleGuy....Aren't you that same stupid 6 foot purple dinosaur that my kids used to watch back in the 90's. He was a big lib, too. Always saying he loved us and "we're a happy family". If you are not him, then you sound just like him and it's just as ANNOYING!! I think everyone from now on should call you" Barney the PurpleGuy"!

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:08PM

How cute, and juvenile...

Douglas| 12.22.10 @ 4:10PM

What the hell is wrong with a white man's council? Don't we have every color and multiples within for all the other groups even one exclusive and residing in congress now. Jeez, holding up something that happened in history and not seeing the blatant racism that now exists is arrogant or stupid.

Negro X| 12.22.10 @ 5:19PM

Purpletard,
You continue to be a total idiot but we don't expect anything less out of a utopian marxist like yourself.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:09PM

If you are really African-American, you make me speechless, if you are that out of touch. But I'm sure there are others just like you .. one is sitting on the Supreme Court ..

beebop| 12.23.10 @ 4:31AM

wow. all I can say is "wow."

Please.

Wherever you live, stay there and don't procreate with your unspeakably intolerant outlook.

So.

You are the arbiter of all that is "good" and "black?" Or is it that liberals are the deciders?

So who's the 14 year old?

But thanks to this line of thinking, I can safely pass over any and all of your comments with the knowledge that you add nothing to a discussion.

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:38AM

Purpleguy, I've read all of your claptrap here and I've come to the conclusion that you're just an arrogant little twit with no allegiance to facts, truth, logic, reason, or evidence, and that you have nothing about which to be arrogant.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 1:29PM

But most of you wouldn't want to live in Mississippi, with or without a porcine governor such as Barbour.
He is no racist, he is merely a big mouth in the spotlight: "look at me, oink oink oink; I am the governor, oink oink oink."

Redstateboy| 12.22.10 @ 1:43PM

and as for you... I read your drivel and may be one day.. you'll amaze us with an original thought of your own.

Charles Martel| 12.22.10 @ 1:44PM

Pretty low, even for you, Brooks.

Was Barbour a good governor? Clearly, especially when you compare his reaction to Katrina to the nervous breakdown evinced by his Democrat counterpart in Louisiana. I'd take Barbour and Mississippi any day over that.

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Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 2:19PM

Then why don't you move to Mississippi?
it isn't hard to surmise just why.

skip| 12.22.10 @ 3:35PM

"Then Why don't you move to Mississippi?"

Why don't you become intelligent and honest?

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 5:29PM

I can't move to Mississippi, my mother is too old to find another job and she also said the houses there have no basements. I'm entitled a place to live just like everyone else.
I also don't think the rednecks there would understand that I exclusively wear star trek attire because I am on a plane high than thsoe right wing hicks.

cl| 12.22.10 @ 4:47PM

Brooks, are you also Purpleguy?

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 5:52PM

Tim* wrote the above, he has been drinking too much Manischewitz wine again.

chester arthur| 12.22.10 @ 7:57PM

To 'surmise' why someone might or might not move to Mississippi or anywhere else means you must prejudge quite a bit about that person.And what is the act,free-thinkers-in-lockstep of the left,of prejudging your fellow man?Why it's your old friend and political fallback weapon,prejudice.It's pretty much all the left has,well,left.

Bruce Michael Anderson | 12.22.10 @ 3:48PM

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Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:11PM

How quaint -what has this to do with racism?

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:38AM

Purpleguy, I've read all of your claptrap here and I've come to the conclusion that you're just an arrogant little twit with no allegiance to facts, truth, logic, reason, or evidence, and that you have nothing about which to be arrogant.

Appleby| 12.22.10 @ 6:42AM

Mama is from the South and Daddy from the North, so we grew up with both perspectives, and were always brought up to judge everyone by their character and nothing else. That was well before any Civil Rights Marches or Dr. King. It was what decent people did. Things got much LESS peaceful when the hippie scum and their hangers on started shoving it down our throats.

I think the Race Card is about played out, especially after Exhibit A in the White House has shown us what happens when you judge a person solely by the colour of his skin.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:49AM

If you are really that decent, Hooray! Unfortunately, there are way too many whites out here that aren't as enlightened as you... it isn't over.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 9:59AM

Yep. Its time to get even with whitey. What tripe.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:12AM

Who said that? You did, not me... But , the days of "whitey" are over. Get used to it.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 11:37AM

The days of you dictating what constitutes racism are over my friend.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 11:48AM

Only a perpetual child/liberal would say what you did in response to me & then add, "the days of whitey are over" & expect people to believe that by this statement, they aren't racists.

Go peddle your King Samir Shatbag propaganda somewhere else, malcontent. No one here's buying it. Don't you have some crackah babies to kill?

David Thompson| 12.22.10 @ 12:55PM

This would have been a nice exchange of opinions, except for NavyGuy and PurpleBrat.
Would you two please compare your posts to everyone elses? If you have something to say that you think's important, nobody's going to pay any attention to anything but your rhetorical style.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 2:30PM

Who are you? The moderator? You're crying about me, yet you haven't written anything on this thread about the subject at hand. Why is that? Did you just show up to police the comment section?

pockets64| 12.22.10 @ 10:07AM

The overwhelming majority of whites are not only not racist, but are anti-racist. There are a few racist idiots out there, but those folks have all skin colors.

It is actually quite racist to say that a person is likely to be racist, simply because of his skin color.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:15AM

Who said that? I didn't ... but I sure don't want a racist to be President, do you? When a powerful politician who is not naive makes statements that ignore the sensitivity of an entire group's history and suffering, it is troubling to have that person in any position of power. Who knows what else he is prejudiced about - homosexuality? Women's rights? Jews? in his case, Northerners?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 11:25AM

Well, if you don't want a racist for president, then why did you vote for Obama?

idalily| 12.22.10 @ 5:49PM

Um, Purpleguy, a racist IS our President. Obama is a racist. He sat in Rev. Wright's church for two decades listening to racist trash spew from that man's mouth and STAYED. He must have liked what he heard. You profess to condemn racism, yet you voted for it. What does that make you?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:20PM

Oh, my, how could I have missed all the degradation white people have felt over the years from black racism? Don't be ridiculous.
When you are in a position of authority or power over someone, you are the one who could become the abuser, you can't be the abused. And, white people, straight people, men all have been in a position of power over other groups of people - black, gay, women respectively.
While it is possible for a white man to feel abused by a black man, a straight man feel abused by a straight man or a man feel abused by a woman, it is hardly the same as the other way around.
Sooo, when you're equating black racism with white racism it is just a red herring you use to take the heat off of yourself and make yourself feel superior again, instead of the racist in your heart you really are. You can't hide it or absolve yourself of your own bias by blaming someone else for theirs.

idalily| 12.23.10 @ 2:40PM

You really are dense. The President IS in the power position; he is the President. Therefore, by YOUR argument, he is the abuser and, by YOUR argument, cannot be abused. So when he takes racist action, such as not having the Black Panthers prosecuted, he is proving his RACISM, by YOUR criteria.

By MY criteria, a racist is a racist is a racist. And racism is racism, regardless of who is perpetuating it against whom. That is because, not being a racist myself, I refuse to regard skin color as relevant to ANY discussion of rights or any judgment of behaviors. I look at how INDIVIDUALS behave. Just as I conclude from Obama's BEHAVIOR in Rev. Wright's church that he agreed with that odious man's RACIST remarks. If he didn't, he would have left. Ergo, he is a racist.

I also refuse (unlike you) to make sweeping assumptions about groups of people based on their skin color, gender, sexual orientation, university degree or lack of, or (in Barbour's case), their hometown. It is lefties, by their constant mantra of "group rights" (whatever that is) that fosters this splintering of Americans into factions and generates class warfare. IMO, we are not African-Americans or Jewish Americans or white Americans or gay Americans. We are ALL Americans, and we ALL have the right to live and work in an environment where these classifications are irrelevant.

And I do not have to "hide" from or "absolve" myself of anything. Unless you are accusing me of being a racist, in which case I say FU.
We are all individual citizens; all of us share the same protections, rights and privileges. You have the right to be an idiot and you are exercising it daily here at Am Spec.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 10:26AM

He who pulls the race card IS the racist. Always.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:16AM

Exactly - so why did he say what he said with such non-chalance, as if the entire civil rights struggle was so what? He raised the spectre and is reaping the fire.

JeffW| 12.22.10 @ 11:22AM

So then you agree Rev Jackson and Sharpton are racist as well? Afterall, Rev Sharpton referred to New York as "Hymie town" and Rev Jackson called Presidient Obama a N**ger. Or do you also believe the tripe that only blacks can use that word with each other?

JeffW| 12.22.10 @ 11:26AM

Sorry, it was Rev Jackson using the Hymie town reference.

Charles Martel| 12.22.10 @ 1:48PM

Right. It was Sharpton who derided New York Jews as "diamond merchants" and white businessmen in black neighborhoods as "interlopers" and instigated the deadly riot at Freddie's Fashion Mart. And who can forget his inaugural national event, the Tawana Brawley fraud?

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Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:20PM

They are just as racist as anyone - so? what's your point, it's okay because black men are racist?

idalily| 12.22.10 @ 5:46PM

Jackson and Sharpton's blatant racism (far worse than anything Barbour said) doesn't make the New York Times. Their racist remarks doesn't cause you to come running to AmSpec screaming about racism's evils. You don't even raise an eyebrow. The racism of Obama, or Senator Byrd, or the Black Panthers, or any of the many other racist liberals goes unchecked and unreported, and is NEVER CONDEMNED by the left. Ditto for sexism and antisemitism. I could go on ALL DAY with the bigotry that comes from your side, so please spare us your righteous indignation. Until you can criticize your side of aisle with the same zeal you do ours (or any zeal at all) you remain nothing but a hypocrite.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:16PM

I seem to recall that Obama sat quietly in the pews, listening to a Preacher who was a VIRULENT antisemite, for 20 years. I'm sorry, Purpleguy,but I don't think you have much to go on with the racism card, given the guy you support, who is the most racist US President since Woodrow Wilosn (the grandpappy of all Progressive Presidents---you want to review Wilson's race recorf? No, you DO NOT want to go there.).

That being said, you are fun to argue with, and happy holidays. Having guys like you and Alan Brooks and RCV add to the fun.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 1:47PM

So why did your lord and savior Obama say what he said about the "typical white person"? Why does he get a pass on that? Because the double standard embodies everything about the left, that's why.

Your leftist propagandist media is attempting to manufacture a controversy where none actually exists. As recently as ten years ago, they might have gotten away with it. But now in the age of the internet, their lies can be exposed almost immediately. So this non-controversial non-event will blow over and quickly.

It must really chap your hide that these kinds of smear jobs orchestrated by the left just don't work very well anymore.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:22PM

As evidenced by Haley Barbour's attempt at a COMPLETE walkback of his words, I'd say you're a bit out of touch, wouldn't you?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 3:33PM

No, not really.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:22PM

Wow, well lets just say Haley Barbour agrees he went too far, and you don't... who's the racist now?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 12:09PM

Who gave you or any of your leftist ilk the right to decide who is or is not 'enlightened'? You self-righteous prigs of the left wouldn't know truth or enlightenment if it hit you in the face.

Ray| 12.22.10 @ 12:45PM

There are also far to many Blacks, I mean African Americans, who are so raciest that they make the Klan look like Mother Teresa.

Face reality, Pupleguy. Racism exists in every racial demographic. It''s not limited to just one race.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:23PM

Okay, but racism in one place, does not excuse it in another does it? It all must be expunged.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 3:38PM

Well then, if all racism must be expunged, I would suggest you start with your own leftist fellow travelers. After all, you guys are the ones who keep obsessing over what race someone is. You are the ones who divide people according to race, and you are the ones who assume that blacks simply cannot make it on their own without your help.

Before you complain about the splinter in someone else's eye, do something about the log in your own eye.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:24PM

Yeah, we're on to your verbal slight of hand. It doesn't work anymore. You use the vehicle to downplay and make it all go away - it doesn't, unless and until you really are not racist.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 1:34PM

Purpleguy, GOP bungling will bring them crashing down-- just look at what Dubya's botching did!
Fortunately, they are their own worst enemies.

Douglas| 12.22.10 @ 4:14PM

Hey big mouth. Come live in the south and see what it's like living under the thumb of the negro.

Name me one damn prosperous black city, town, village anything. Come see what Selma looks like under black rule. You just don't realize we all live in Black Run America (BRA). Everything we do is done to appease one group.

Visit StuffBlackPeopleDontLike.com for the real America, not the rose colored one you live in.

Negro X| 12.22.10 @ 5:30PM

Yes and most of them are liberal.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 5:57PM

Black cities are like that because you treated blacks badly at one time (up until the '70s). Remember always: it is YOUR culpability, not mine. And, BTW, what the GOP House does next year is YOUR responsibility, not mine.
Though your conscience might be bad, mine is not.

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:39AM

Purpleguy, I've read all of your claptrap here and I've come to the conclusion that you're just an arrogant little twit with no allegiance to facts, truth, logic, reason, or evidence, and that you have nothing about which to be arrogant.

Deborah D | 12.22.10 @ 6:53AM

My daughter got an advanced degree at Ole Miss (The University of Mississippi) in Oxford. While she was there about a year or two ago -- the Klan staged a march on campus. They were overwhelmed by the students -- white and black -- who showed them what for, and they left, looking like the throwbacks that they are. Mississippi is a different state. One of my daughter's grad school friends is a black girl from Chicago whose parents don't understand why she wants to stay in Mississippi instead of coming home to the (violence) city she grew up in. I'd say they should go visit their daughter. Liberals can't handle the truth -- they want and need to live in the past (which is obvious by the New Deal policies that Obama and company insist on cramming down our throats.)

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:55AM

Kudos to young people. Race, sexual orientation both have been put into their proper place by the young people of this country.
It's the Boomers and before that still cling to many old ideas ... For example - just exactly why would anyone celebrate the Day of Secession, when South Carolina seceded from the Union and initiated the Civil War, a war that killed 2% of the population and was fought over slavery? Why is the Confederate flag hailed in the South in some quarters? Can you imagine the Swastika taking prominence in some quarters in Germany?

Racial tension is hardly a thing of the past - but there are signs that the youth of today will bury racial inequality along with their parents some day.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 10:06AM

Because to many people in the South, that flag represents where they come from. Nothing more. But since you've been indoctrinated into thinking that the Stars & Bars=slavery loving bigots, there's probably no hope for you. I don't think there ever has been. You're a perpetual, professional victim. You trade on your supposed victimization at the hands of whitey. Were you a slave? No. Are there any white folks alive today who owned slaves? No. If you want to piss & moan about segregationists, let's talk about Al Gore Sr. Let's talk about Slick Willie's political mentor, Fullbright. Let's talk about Robert Byrd, Kleagle for the WV Klan.

Oh, & the swastika is illegal in Germany. Its not here. And people can still fly it. That doesn't mean that I don't want to burn the damned thing, but that's what freedom of speech is all about. Its about the freedom to offend people. Get over yourself, PurplePuke.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:31AM

First of all, I'm probably whiter than you are ... so I don't speak from a black man's point of view, but I do have a heart, and I have lived in the South and can tell you there are some that still are fighting the Civil War. That's why the Confederate flag stirs so much emotion. It means a lot of different things to different people. But those that are hurt by it's presence far outweighs the pride of those who admire it? How can anyone admire something that caused so much harm, pain and suffering?

While it may mean heritage to you, can you imagine how those raised during the time of the Third Reich feel about that heritage? Might they not feel proud of what their country was able to do - minus the Holocaust? The problem is that you can't selectively pick what you want to be proud of when using the Swastika symbol.
That history was nothing to be proud of, and that is exactly how a lot of people see the Confederate flag that represents the illegal act of Southern States secession against our country. Surely you don't condone treason? Because that is EXACTLY what secession is. Breaking the law ... criminals.

The main point is that the symbol of the Confederacy cannot be divorced from the shameful past it also represents for those who want to have pride in what they choose to admire of the Confederacy. You can't be selective - you get the whole package, not just what you like.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 11:51AM

"The problem is that you can't selectively pick what you want to be proud of when using the Swastika symbol."

The problem is you can't selectively (arbitrarily) pick what offends you.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 11:53AM

Being a Jew who grew up in the South, I can tell you that there are TONS of Jewish families that are native to the South who fly that flag. It represents WHO THEY ARE & WHERE THEY'RE FROM. Go look at the Confederate Jewish Cemetary in Richmond if you doubt me.

The mainstream of people in the South who fly that flag fly it for the same reasons that I do. Just because thin skinned pukes like you are offended by it doesn't mean that someone can't fly it. Again, the freedom of speech means the freedom to offend. Deal with it.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:27PM

Who cares if Jews fly a Confederate Flag?

Now, if you can show me that Jews will fly the Swastika or Blacks will fly the Confederate Flag, then maybe that says something.

And, you are free to offend, just stop being surprised and outraged when those you offend call you out and take you to task.

Brubaker| 12.22.10 @ 12:04PM

There was nothing "illegal" or treasonous about southern states seceding from the union. Perhaps you could cite the legal basis for your assertion.

In fact, secession was "illegal" only because Abraham Lincoln said it was, and he was willing to use military power to make it so. There is nothing in the Constitution that even suggests that a state, having voluntarily entered the union, could not also voluntarily leave it.

"You can't be selective - you get the whole package, not just what you like."

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:33PM

Revisionist History again?
The concept of a Union of the American States originated gradually during the 1770s as the independence struggle unfolded. In his First Inaugural Address on Monday March 4, 1861, Abraham Lincoln stated:
"The Union is much older than the Constitution. It was formed, in fact, by the Articles of Association in 1774. It was matured and continued by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. It was further matured, and the faith of all the then thirteen States expressly plighted and engaged that it should be perpetual, by the Articles of Confederation in 1778. And finally, in 1787, one of the declared objects for ordaining and establishing the Constitution was to form a more perfect Union."

Moreover, there is no provision for "unratifying" the Constitution by any less than 3/4 of the States in total. There is no provision in the Constitution for secession and hence is Unconstitutional.

It really shouldn't be this easy...

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 1:36PM

Purpleguy,
they think whites don't go to the bathroom or something.

Negro X| 12.22.10 @ 5:32PM

"Whiter than you" PG what a nice condensending racist remark. You are the racebaiter.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:30PM

And, aren't you offended that with my defense of the African-American population that was subjected horrors of slavery and still today, the impact of racism, these people thought I was black? "You're a perpetual, professional victim. You trade on your supposed victimization at the hands of whitey."
A victim? I was asked if I was a Black Panther? Is that not the height of racism that they could not believe that a white man would so vociferously come to the defense of those victimized by racism?

And, yet, all you pick out is one phrase by me, pointing out their misconception that I was black. Instead of criticizing ME for defending your race, you should simply thank me or say nothing.

W| 12.22.10 @ 10:19PM

Purp, what makes you think that blacks need you to defend them? Typical condescending liberal attitude, you know what is best for blacks?

Negro X| 12.22.10 @ 11:54PM

PG, I'm not a victim and I don't need you or your white liberal friends to "save". You are a condesending little liberal racist and you are too stupid to realize it. Victims are only victims because they choose to be.
"Thanking you", for what? You weren't the one who carried me to the dust off chopper in 69, it was white kid from from North Carolina. You deserve nothing but scorn.

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:40AM

Purpleguy, I've read all of your claptrap here and I've come to the conclusion that you're just an arrogant little twit with no allegiance to facts, truth, logic, reason, or evidence, and that you have nothing about which to be arrogant.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:19PM

Oh, and Purpleguy, don't go down that road either. NavyBrat is Jewish, so am I. And I have relatives in Skokie.

The last White People's March that I read about in B'ham involved Yankee racists and Southern anti-racist protestors.

People are COMPLEX, not simple, Purpleguy. 21 years of practicing psychiatry has taught me that.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:34PM

Agreed, racism is horrid in all it's forms. But we weren't discussing all racism, but I take your point.

cowgirl| 12.22.10 @ 10:27AM

You obviously were educated in the public school system. The Civil War was not fought over slavery. Please - first read the Emancipation Proclomation. Then we can have a discussion on why South Carolina seceded from the Union and why Lincoln was one of the worst presidents that we ever had in office. You hve no idea what you are talking about.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:54AM

You obviously listen to Glenn Beck. You have no idea what your talking about. Did you ever hear of the Abolitionist movement? The Dred Scot decision? The Missouri Compromise?
Our country dealt with the shameful issue of slavery from the writing of the Constitution itself. It was the South that started the Civil War and South Carolina that fired the first shot.
In the presidential election of 1860, the Republican Party, led by Abraham Lincoln, had campaigned against the expansion of slavery beyond the states in which it already existed. That was intolerable to the Southern expansionist dreams in the new West. In response to the Republican victory in that election, seven states declared their secession from the Union before Lincoln took office on March 4, 1861. Both the outgoing administration of President James Buchanan and Lincoln's incoming administration rejected the legality of secession, considering it rebellion. Several other slave states rejected calls for secession at this point.

While freeing the slaves was not the initial goal of the Civil War, it became a war goal in the Lincoln Administration.

Sam Vaughn| 12.22.10 @ 11:59AM

wow, you tripped over your rhetoric, actually admitting that is was the Republican party that opposed slavery and the Democrats that supported it....

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 1:44PM

"While freeing the slaves was not the initial goal of the Civil War, it became a war goal in the Lincoln Administration."

Southerners were punished for their extreme disigenuousness in saying they wanted to be "left alone", when they really wanted to grab the Western territories. Sure, they were like everyone else in wanting power-- but they LOST.
So on both counts the South was wrong:
a) they lied
b) they lost
Get used to it, you lost almost 146 years ago, and nothing will change it.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 1:45PM

...not you, Purplelips, I mean the Confederates lost
-- and there is no 'Do-Over' 146 years later..

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:41AM

Purpleguy, I've read all of your claptrap here and I've come to the conclusion that you're just an arrogant little twit with no allegiance to facts, truth, logic, reason, or evidence, and that you have nothing about which to be arrogant.

cowgirl| 12.23.10 @ 9:55AM

Obviously I don't listen to Glen Beck because I knew Civil War History before Glen Beck was on T.V. - your ignorance is showing. Oh gosh - you admit that Republicans freed the slaves. ROTFLOL. In Lincoln's debates with Stephens he repeated said that if keeping the Union together meant keeping slavery he was all for it. Lincoln spoke degradingly of slaves in many of his speeches. He did not "Free the Slaves" he freed only the slaves that were located in the terrorities not occupied (in the SOuth) by the Union armies. Please read the Emancipation Proclomation and understand it. There were 3,000 freed slaves in the South that owned and sold slaves. The South fired on Sumtner because they seceded from the Union and Lincoln would not retreat. Two weeks before the firing on Sumtner, Lincoln's union army fired on Southern boats in the area near North Carolina. Our country had slaves because slavery had been going on since the time of man. The Africian slave trade (which continues today) was started by none other than Africans. They traded slaves to the Mulisms in North Africa who traded them for rum and cotton and goods from the Spanish and Portguese Slave Traders which in turn traded them to the North/South American Continents with the bulk over 90% going to Cuba and SOuth AMerica to the coffee and tea planatations. Cuba imported more slaves than North America - but hey Cuba is Malcom X, Jesse Jacksons and Sharpton's favorite country. You obviously were educated in the public schools system as you know nothing about slavery in Africa and how your own people sold your relatives into slavery.

Steve A| 12.22.10 @ 10:35AM

Hey Purple, Perhaps you should glance at a history book. The Civil War was certainly not initiated or fought over slavery. It certainly was the backdrop, but not the main event. I suggest Shelby Foote.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 11:55AM

Yeah, and the Japanese never attacked Pearl Harbor for any but defensive reasons ...

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 1:53PM

It's no use, Purpleguy (sorry to call you Purplelips, there's someoine else who has been posting in that name), they wont give up.
however nothing can hide that they are rightwingers, not conservatives-- they no longer conserve anything. They have wasted our time and theirs' for almost two decades now.
Let them elect another Bush-type and f*ck it up royally, to the extent they can never rise again.

Negro X| 12.22.10 @ 5:35PM

AB replying PG, you spent alot of time talking to yourself?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 10:37AM

Oh, changing our story again are we, Purp? It was only a couple of years ago that all you leftists were saying that Lincoln and the Republicans did not deserve any credit for freeing the slaves because slavery was not their motivation for prosecuting the civil war. Yeah, you remember. All you leftists said that Lincoln's only motivation was to preserve the Union, so he gets no credit for ending slavery. Now that it's convenient for you, you are saying the exact opposite. Changing your story to fit the circumstances. How very leftist of you. How very Obama-like.

But to answer your question, I would imagine that what a lot of Southerners pine for is not a return to racism, but a return to the days before there was an all-powerful federal government that would work its will (not the people's will) upon you and crush you if you resisted. Doesn't have a damn thing to do with racism. But the way you see racism in everything tells me that YOU are the racist.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 1:58PM

You romanticize the South. The good old days were based on state tyranny, not Federal tyranny; six of one, half a dozen of another.
Point is: you were no better, and you lost.
Confederates are sore losers.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 2:30PM

My family is all from the north. Two of my great-grandfathers fought for the Grand Army of the Republic (the Union army). Both were in for the duration of the war.

My mother's grandfather was from upper New York state. He was with General Sherman's forces as they cut a swath through the South. At the end of the war, they were mustered out in Georgia. He had to walk all the way home (the railroads were all destroyed). He weight 98 pounds when he got home.

My father's grandfather was first generation American. He emigrated from Germany in 1840 with his parents when he was a small boy. He was in the Wisconsin cavalry. After four years of endless war, his health was shot due to dysentary and malaria. He never really recovered his health, and died at a relatively early age.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 2:35PM

So your folks fought for what many here at AS consider the cause of that "war criminal" Abe Lincoln, who drove old Dixie down and was our "worst" president (worse than LBJ, Nixon and Carter?)

George True| 12.22.10 @ 2:56PM

I was merely correcting your assumption that "my" side lost, and that I am a Confederate sore loser.

And as far as that "war criminal" Lincoln is concerned, as I recollect it was just two years ago that many on the left were saying that Obama was the new Lincoln. Not that you are on the left. In fact, I'm still not able to figure out where you are on the continuum.

In any case, Merry Christmas, Alan.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 6:04PM

"Not that you are on the left. In fact, I'm still not able to figure out where you are on the continuum."

"Left-right" is a construct. However, I have to go along with the maddening crowd. What, am I going to say to a hundred million people "your politics are outmoded"? Did people in the 16th and 17th centuries say "the Catholic-Protestant war (and it was a war) is a construct based on your memes and passions?

Deborah D | 12.22.10 @ 3:35PM

I'm a Boomer. I know a lot of Boomers -- there is an 18-year span of Boomers. I watched a lot of the Civil Rights marches and some of the violence against blacks on television as a child. I believe many Boomers were affected by watching all of that as it transpired on television. It was awful to see. I was affected by MLK's quiet strength. I don't know what age group you're from, but you shouldn't paint Boomers with any kind of a broad brush. We weren't all hippies; we didn't all serve in Vietnam. Whatever you mean by "old ideas" -- conservatives (whether Boomers or not) want to cling to the "old idea" of the republic. We also want to cling to the old idea of giving a man the benefit of the doubt. It's truly difficult to prove you're not racist now, isn't it -- unless you're a Democrat named Byrd -- especially once the leftist media decides to ruin your reputation. That's another thing we cling to around here -- we know the media lies. We know the left lies. We know Democrats lie. We know because they lie about us all the time.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:36PM

Personally, I'm ashamed of my race - if that makes me racist, so be it... but y'all are not tolerant or loving of your fellow man - also not very Christian of you. One day, whites will be in the minority - predictions are 30-50 years hence, but it might come sooner. Let's hope we won't suffer at the hands of the majority as we have visited suffering on those we are majority over. Pray to God to forgive your racist sins, repent, and perhaps ye shall be saved.

Deborah D | 12.23.10 @ 6:46AM

Well, I think it's very sad that you're ashamed of your race. "Your race" has done some great things. Your race decided to end slavery -- it still exists in other societies to this day, but not in Western (say white) society. Africans sold their own people into slavery, so they too were part of the slave trade. Women still are considered chattel in middle eastern societies -- are you ashamed of your gender too? You shouldn't be because men have also done great things in this world. I'm sick of people like you trying to make me feel guilty for things I have not done and would not do. Unearned guilt is the way liberals try to control. We're done with that. You're going to have to find another way to rule the world. You truly are a sad case.

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:39AM

Purpleguy, I've read all of your claptrap here and I've come to the conclusion that you're just an arrogant little twit with no allegiance to facts, truth, logic, reason, or evidence, and that you have nothing about which to be arrogant.

Deborah D | 12.22.10 @ 6:58AM

By the way, go, Haley! You did a magnificent job with the aftermath of Katrina -- no wonder they hate you!

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 2:23PM

BTW, I don't say the Confederacy was, overall, worse morally. But they lied, they lost, theirs' was not the very best cause in the world, and after almost 146 years it is a hopeless-- not merely lost
-- cause.

Qwilly| 12.22.10 @ 7:04AM

For years the Waltons were on TV. Their life experience had nothing to do with my inner city urban reality. Even though their life style wasn't real in my life, I could understand that was their
reality. So much the same for Mr Barbour.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 1:54PM

Oh how fricking noble of you.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 2:29PM

Um, by the way the Waltons, as you know, were not real, they were well-off Hollywood actors pretending to be po' in doing the series.
It might be that the actor who played John Boy was a rich city slicker who was allergic to cows, horses, hay, chicken feathers and everything else on a farm.

Negro X| 12.22.10 @ 5:37PM

Pretending, much like your utopian islamic fantasies. I wouldn't let you around a farm anaimal.

Alan Brooks| 12.22.10 @ 6:08PM

Islamic?? first Deborah thought I might be a rightwing Jew, and now you think I might be an Islamic bestiaphile.
Negro F, you are throwing mud, hoping some will stick..

Deborah D | 12.23.10 @ 6:51AM

You're out of your mind, Alan. I've never thought anything about you except that you leave bizarre and irrelevant comments here all of the time.

Loadmaster| 12.22.10 @ 7:43AM

I can relate to what Haley witnessed during that time frame. As a young teenager in Alabama, I personally didn't witnesses any of the stuff the NYT or the TV likes to show or write about. I know it happen but I never saw it. I was there with Gov Wallace and Bull Connor. I remember watching the bus loads of Freedom Riders traveling down Hwy 31 heading to Selma but I paid no attention to what was really going on. Like Haley, I was watching girls..girls...girls and the NEW music that was hitting the airwaves. Oh yea, we heard about the riots when we rode the bus into Birmingham to watch a movie. The 16th Street Church bombing did upset allot of us. We knew there were bad white guys who did it. We didn't go out of our way to get involved. My local school was not segregated until the year after I left High School (67). We took it as - "oh well"!. The 60's in the south was a turning point for us because it was all new. We knew our folks didn't like the way things were going but for "us" it was a great time but nothing about race or black vs white caused any of us to sit around and talk about it. If you weren't there and experienced what we did then you can't relate to what we witnessed. And NO, not everyone from MS or AL belonged to the Klan or participated in rally's to out blacks. It just wasn't something we thought about. It was all about the girls and the music.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:03AM

You missed the whole point. It's not that you were oblivious then that is the issue - you are not oblivious now, so it makes a difference what you say NOW. And, if you weren't sensitive to the plight of blacks in the South then, that's excusable. But if you aren't sensitive enough about it now, you tread on thin ice, just as when you aren't sensitive to someone's mother's passing. You weren't there, you don't feel it, but you feel it for the person who experienced the loss. It's called sensitivity to others.
Since you aren't black, you can only imagine the life they had with white only bathrooms and colored only bathrooms and much, much more degradatory practices from that time.

It's a simple as that - it wasn't a big deal for you then, but it should be a big deal now that you are all grown up and smart enough to know the difference. Get it?

And, then Barbour has Presidential aspirations? With sensitivity like that? I don't think so...

pockets64| 12.22.10 @ 10:17AM

Actually, I think _you_ are missing the point.

A man tells a story with his personal historical point of view, relating his contemporaneous feelings and thoughts. If he were to change the story to reflect 2010 sensibilities, he would be a liar.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:03PM

Oh, you mean like telling your wife she looks good in a new dress, when she clearly looks fat? Didn't you see the movie Liar, Liar where Jim Carrey could not tell a lie?
Now, you and I both know you are going to lie to your wife, so you don't hurt her feelings - but an entire group of people doesn't deserve the same sensitivity? Why is that?

If Barbour had said he was unaware of the racial tensions in his city, well enough. But he continued to go further, praising the White Conservative Councils, basically saying they weren't the KKK, so therefore they weren't that bad. He started it with his own mouth, and if someone doesn't stand up and call him out, the next time he may say racism didn't really exist in the South. What's next - blacks never had any issues in the South.
You can't whitewash the tragedies of the past with nostalgic views of your own selective memories - especially someone as smart and capable as Barbour is. It was just plain stupid he did this.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 12:17PM

Anyone who intelligently read the article knew exactly what the context of his remarks were; which was relative to other parts of the state, his hometown's racial problem was minor in comparison.

He was PROUDLY stating that fact.

Don't be such a robot.

Negro X| 12.22.10 @ 5:41PM

Bob, PG can't do anything but be a robot, remember in his mind there are only white christian terrorists, not muslim. He didn't live through Vietnam or the civil rights era so his opinion is bogus.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:38PM

There you go - first im black and now I'm under 30 or something? Where do you get this stuff? Are you sure Im not an Islamic Black Jewish Indian? Good grief, you better go say a thousand Hail Mary's and a Million Our Fathers or you are lost...

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 10:53PM

That's tax payer education for you.

As Mike Meyers inspired character Dieter would say:

"Purple Guy, your story has become tiresome...touch my monkey"

cowgirl| 12.22.10 @ 10:31AM

Since you are black then why do you support overwhelming the Democrats who have done nothing but enslave you from 1865. It was democrats who started the Klan, segragation, turned fire hoses and dogs on you in the south. Why do you continue to support democrats who through you a few bones here in there in form of entitlements, but would throw in a river if you ever stood up against their thinking and made in it on your own - Clarence Thomas comes to mind.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:12PM

Honey, I'm whiter than you are, blond hair, blue eyed red-blooded American white man ... and I am ashamed of my race when they act like they are completely blameless and say "Waaaa?" about past atrocities. And I'll tell you, having 3/4 German background, I was ashamed of being German heritage after viewing Schindler's List. I wasn't there, but I sure wouldn't glorify the Third Reich, I wouldn't admire Adolf Hitler, I sure wouldn't post the Swastika on my walls, just as I wouldn't whitewash the sins of the white race toward blacks, nor glorify the Confederacy or the sins of the South. That is not to say the North is blameless, however.
I'd also say I'm not too pleased how my sex treats your sex. There are still way too many men who just think of women as sex objects, housekeepers and baby makers. And, you guys know what I mean, so don't argue.
It's comfortable and understandable to stay with your own kind, black, white, male, female, etc. and band together for mutual experience - but it is no excuse to downgrade those not like "us" to make ourselves feel superior. But we do it all the time - but it has to be fought because it is not right.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:24PM

The nice decent Germans moved to the US in the 1840s, Purpleguy. Nothing to be ashamed of. They fought for the North. One of my best friends here is of German heritage (and Conservative and in the Mental Helath profession), and my best college roommate was from Cologne. People are Complex, not simple.

All this being said, I don't think Mr. Barbour is a racist, and I don't think he would win the nomination, either. That one is going to Pence or Jindal.

NegRo X| 12.22.10 @ 5:43PM

Why do you keep on telling us how white you are?
You are a liberal hypocrite who probably has never spoken to a black man.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:41PM

Did you miss the post where I was asked about my being black? It's funny that they think only a black man would be so incensed over the racism on display here.

cowgirl| 12.23.10 @ 9:58AM

Honey, I'm whiter than you are, blond hair, blue eyed red-blooded American white man

Yeah and I am Princess Diana.

idalily| 12.24.10 @ 2:23PM

Please point to the Barbour quote that shows he was "downgrading those not like us" to make himself "feel superior." And where he has the equivalent of "swastika on the wall" or where Barbour in any way "admires" the Klan. Otherwise all the crap you just posted is irrelevant. And I'm sorry you feel so ashamed of being German just because at one point in history Germans who had nothing to do with you committed heinous acts. Why do liberals always insist on this sort of guilt by association sort of crap? Can't you people look at the behavior of individuals and stop making sweeping generalizations?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 10:48AM

Oh, so you now admit that Haley Barbour is actually NOT a racist. But he apparently is just not "sensitive" enough in how he relates his memories of growing up in those times. What a complete and total crock of s**t.

Give it up, Purp, it ain't gonna work anymore. People are on to the Alinsky tactics of selecting the target of the day and freezing and polarizing it. People with half a brain can see right through it. Here's a man who never in 60+ years exhibited the slightest sign of racism, and suddenly because of one or two allegedly "insensitive" remarks he is now branded a closet racist? Get real! Go get you two minute hate-on somewhere else. That dog won't hunt no more.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:20PM

Unfortunately, you are wrong. Have you ever spoken to teenagers and 20 somethings about gays? They are a case in point of what happens when prejudice truly melts away. Being gay is no big deal to that age group at all - they don't even see it any different than one guy's a jock and another is a geek. No big deal.
I have never read anything by, about or for Alinsky - and have no idea what he espouses. But I will tell you, I've only learned of him from y'all and Conservative commentators. You obviously had a strawman picked for you to blame everything on when you confront a problem - it's not a real problem - it's Alinsky again. How convenient. You don't have to think, you don't have to feel, you just have to bring up Alinsky and BLAM - issue gone.
Sorry, it doesn't wash - y'all may be fine with being misinformed by Beck, Rush Loudmouth, Sean Insanity and Fixed News, but it won't last.

Beware of bumper sticker propaganda - Hitler explains in Mein Kampf how to turn the population to your point of view. If you read that section, you'd know what your conservative commentators are up to. Remember, they are paid by Corporations, and who supports corporatism?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 2:07PM

Now that is really rich, lecturing all of us about the way Hitler got a foothold. It is your side that embodies everything about the would-be Hitlers of the world. Yes, Hitler was a socialist, his party was called the National Socialists. And the Democrat party today embraces all of the planks in the CPUSA platform.

And don't try to play dumb about Alinsky. You know very well the tactic I am talking about, and it is your fellow travelers' modus operandi. And bumper sticker propaganda? You guys wrote the book on it. Hope and Change, anyone?

All of you leftists, whether you call yourselves socialists, communists, fascists, statists, collectivists, liberals, progressives, whatever. It's all about the same thing. Take what is not yours. Impose your will on everyone. Crush any dissenting voices. It's all about control, control, control. And to get and maintain that control, your side will lie about anything and everything, because its all for a good cause, dontcha know. And racism is a very, very convenient lie to promulgate about someone (anyone) who looks like they might get in your way.

You guys don't care and have never cared about anybody except yourselves. You claim to "care" about minorities, The Poor, etc, but what you really care about is your own hide, your own fat bank account and dacha in the countryside. And you just can't stand it that most people don't want what you are selling, so you will just gain control and force them to so what you want. For their own good, of course. That about sums up the left.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:50PM

I do not consider myself leftist, but compared you y'all Im probably considered by you far to the left. A real leftist would explode your head. Why do you think I'm "Purpleguy"? Not Red not Blue, Purple. Miss that, did ya?
Now for your diatribe. Hitler was fascist, not socialist, but you didn't know that did you?
I really have no idea what Alinsky does or says .. I speak for myself, I don't parrot commentators or journalists. I can think for myself - can't you?
"It's all about the same thing. Take what is not yours. Impose your will on everyone. " - and what do you call the Terry Schiavo incident - a mild intervention? The entire Federal Government stopped everything to interfere in a private family matter ..

I often wonder why when Republicans always say Government is the problem why they are so all-fired up to be in control of the Government? They don't have any clue or inclination to govern and form a more perfect union - so why do they run? And, you think the Democrats want Power? Really? Really? If you believe that, you're an idiot and completely out of touch.

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:42AM

Purpleguy, I've read all of your claptrap here and I've come to the conclusion that you're just an arrogant little twit with no allegiance to facts, truth, logic, reason, or evidence, and that you have nothing about which to be arrogant.

Old Soldier| 12.22.10 @ 4:00PM

You missed the whole point.

Republicans are evil and racist - even if there is no proof.

Democrats are good - even old Klansmen like Robert Byrd - regardless of their racial views.

Wordmonger| 12.22.10 @ 7:50AM

Only liberals ............. would conclude differently.

Publius| 12.22.10 @ 8:02AM

My God, what is wrong with you people? Don't you realize that the left claims the civil rights era as its own, reserving the right to recast that time as the left sees fit? Bill Clinton remembers churches burning in his hometown except that it didn't happen. BO's parents met at the march on Selma (didn't happen). Al Gore, Sr strongly supported civil rights (didn't happen). Whatever fantasy the left cares to concoct must be treated as the Gospel. And you don't agree, you are a racist.

My advice is to ignore this and move on. The right has done more for civil rights than all the clownish pretenders put together.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:06AM

What? "The right has done more for civil rights than all the clownish pretenders put together." You aren't serious ... really? What planet have you been living on in the last 70 years?

Care to list what "the right has done ..." for civil rights?

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 10:07AM

Hey dipshit. El BJ wouldn't have passed the Voting Rights Act without Republicans.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 11:32AM

What "the right" has done for civil rights is to not care what anybody's race is. Unlike the left, which has always treated blacks like handicapped children who are not able to fend for themselves. And to castigate any blacks who go off the leftist plantation.

You guys have done more to keep racism alive in this country than the antebellum South ever did.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:25PM

Freed the Slaves. Passed the Civil Rights Bill of 1964. The Republican Party. Deal with it, Purple Guy.

Christopher| 12.22.10 @ 4:57PM

The Cvil Rights Act of 1957 was passed by Republicans. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed by Republicans and northern state Democrats, it was filibustered by Democrats such as Al Gore,Sr.
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. The Reconstruction Act laws, such as the civil rights statutes ( sections 1981,1983) were passed by Republicans.
Jim Crow was instituted througout the South by Democrats.
Dem/Liberals still catergorize everything in terms of race, and pretend they are morally superior, Maybe it is their guilty conscience.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:53PM

They weren't morally superior then, but they are now... they changed and Republicans have replaced them as the morally inferior - just look at who votes for whom.... and Hispanics are joining the Democrats in droves, since the Republicans and Conservatives are oh so welcoming .. ain't they?

Old Soldier | 12.22.10 @ 4:19PM

And Republicans segregated the federal civil service - oh wait, that was Woodrow Wilson and his DEMOCRAT Jim Crow friends.

martin j smith| 12.22.10 @ 8:04AM

It is really time for American voters to be educated about the role of Media Matters and other such groups --and in coordination with MSM together making a State Controlled Meida in other words-liars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, it is time to re-take the narrative from the Left !!!!!!!!!!!

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:07AM

Try switching off Fixed Noise and Rush Loudmouth - listen to your heart and use common sense. They are propagandizing you and you don't even know it.

pockets64| 12.22.10 @ 10:19AM

Wow.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 10:52AM

It is YOU who have been propagandized. You have bought into every talking point of the loony left hook, line and sinker. You have not a clue what you are talking about.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 11:46AM

Purple quick. Tell me (us) who are some of your favorite authors?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:23PM

E.O Wilson, Agatha Christie, Richard L Evans

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:28PM

Dear Purpleguy:

Agatha Christie? Not Rex Stout? Ewwww.

Evans work on the 3rd Reich is good, but if you really want to read a good overview of WWII, there is no substitute for Sir Martin Gilbert.

Finally, Dr. Wilson is a FINE PRODUCT OF ALABAMA.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:54PM

I know, I worked with him...

Joey| 12.22.10 @ 2:39PM

Richard L Evans? Who's he?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:56PM

He arguable wrote one of the best detailed analysis of the Third Reich in a 3-volume set, which I own and have read thoroughly.

davelnaf| 12.22.10 @ 8:11AM

What any normal person, i.e. a conservative, knows about what the NY Times is editorially thinking on any given day is usually because another conservative thinks its good fodder for the day’s writing chore. The only reason why the Times and Media Matters takes up any issue about conservatives is out of sheer obtuseness or a desire to cause harm.

Let the Times die the peaceful and unnoticed death it deserves. Giving it any kind of attention serves to keep it pacemaker charged.

Louis Jenkins| 12.22.10 @ 8:19AM

The state controlled media are like a bunch of minks- if one screams they all scream. A mountain out of a mole-hill. Barbour is trying to run a state government, and doing a pretty good job, but the media has to make sure all potential presidential candidates (Republicans) have egg on their face. Look at Palin. Insurance for 2012. We got a lot of work to do.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:09AM

State controlled? Where do you live, Nazi Germany?

As for Palin, the media need do nothing - she's quite good at opening mouth and sticking in both feet... she needs little help there. Moose Chili anyone?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 11:00AM

As usual, you throw around a lot of feces, but nothing you are saying has any basis in fact or in truth. Yes, the media IS currently 'state-controlled' in a way, and quite obviously so, when you factor in that most of the mainstream media has willingly allowed themselves to be the de facto propaganda arm of the Democrat party.

The left has been having a collective stroke over the fact that they don't control all sources of information anymore like they used to.

Louis Jenkins| 12.22.10 @ 12:13PM

See what I mean? Opening her mouth and sticking in both feet...Moose Chili? Purpleguy, go get a life. If I had meant that the state media was controlled by the state I would have put it in capitals, which they are by the way. You're worse than Sheets Bird, flapping and sqawking, and then receiving a stand ovation from the Liberals for being such a "Good Man." You should go back to the liberal blogs where your BS is appreciated.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:25PM

Well, maybe you should be a little clearer .. wonder who "controls" the conservative media? Do you know?

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:30PM

Let's see---MSNBC is owned by GE, whose financial services sector was bailed out by the Obama administration after the airings of the "Leg Tingler." HMMM.....

yup, state controlled.

MikeD| 12.22.10 @ 8:20AM

You people just don't get it! We are supposed to just accept the crap the left wing haters spew because they said it; not that much of it has anything to do with reality. The libs are more than racists, they are deadly dangerous. These a$$holes really think that the crap they've been fed by malcontents from the 60's is real. Get a clue idiots, it's not. It's a fabrication so the lefties can try to maintain their self professed moral superiority. The hypocricy of the libs is so well documented that, if they had brains, even they would finally understand the truth. It'll never happen.

Lefties like barry the muslim have so blindly swallowed the big lies they will never get it. They are the anacronisms; the throwbacks to the 60's. It wasn't all that great. Our colleges have been destroyed by the misfits and incompetents in that group who were neither smart enough, or brave enough to get out of the smothering arms of academia and actually DO something. They confirm their total lack of intelligence every time they open their mouths.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:10AM

Another Fixed Noise contributor speaks ...

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 10:12AM

He certainly has more enlightening things to talk about than you do, Mr. Professional Victim.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:31PM

I am no victim, so not sure where you come up with that crapola. And, enlightening? Bigoted, narrow-minded, mean, nasty jargon downgrading everyone with a different opinion is enlightening? Really?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 11:04AM

You hard-left types just can't stand it that there is even ONE network that doesn't parrot the leftist party line. It's truly pathetic. You guys have CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and most of the major metropolitan newspapers spouting the Democrat party line. But just because there is one network that doesn't, why you guys just continually soil yourselves over it.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:28PM

Why - because Rush tells you so? I will agree MSNBC is sure slanted left, just as Fixed News is slanted right. However, MSNBC doesn't promote misinformation as Fixed News does. I know, I know, you don't believe it, but that's okay, the day you figure it out you will be so po'd, i'd love to see it.
But neither engage in just plain news. CNN seems to be in the middle, and ABC, CBS and NBC have so little air time, I can't believe you even worry about them.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 1:22PM

The alphabet media are ALL on the left. It's just that you are so far left that anything that is not as far left as you seems to be "in the middle" from your perspective. And MSNBC is virulently anti-anything that is other than far-left. Most of what they put out would have to be categorized as either far left propaganda or else outright disinformation (but I repeat myself).

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 8:58PM

Then you don't watch enough of MSNBC...

hardcard| 12.22.10 @ 8:30AM

media matters, ny times, huffington post= soros

donserge| 12.22.10 @ 8:31AM

You ain't seen nothin' yet!! During the next two years the left will go insane with all sorts of rantings. The crimes against JFK, RFK, Ford, Reagan, King Jr., and others were all committed by leftists. Don't forget people like the unibomber.

Petronius| 12.22.10 @ 8:35AM

MSM is conducting their own primaries again. Haley Barbour is a "racist" because he doesn't run Mississippi like the New York Times runs Manhattan. Who elected them to anything?

PJ| 12.22.10 @ 8:38AM

I like Haley Barbour alot! He is a gentleman w/solid principles & he's realistic (He was GOP chairman; he knows about the political crap that goes on.) He did & continues to do much good for Mississippi. If he was running for president; I believe I would vote for him over Jim DeMint & I like Jim DeMint.

This CT gal thinks the South is ready to give this country a truly great president!

MoeBlotz| 12.22.10 @ 9:06AM

How can Haley Barbour be labelled a racist before those slimy "reporters" prove that he used the despicable "N"-word?

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 9:20AM

I didn't grow up in the South during that time, but I grew up there for 18 years. My Dad retired in Memphis after his tour there. And I can say that the South, even in this day, is NOTHING like the lefties in the NYT or any other lefties, would have you believe. Sure, there are people with the same old hangups. And these people are whites & blacks.

But for the most part, its THE SOUTH. People are polite, people help out their neighbors, people say "sir" & "ma'am" & "please" & "thank you." There aren't many places in this country where you'll hear a child address someone as "sir" or "ma'am." You'll hear A LOT of it down there. And the kids saying it say it to adults. PERIOD. Related or not. Black or white. When people help out their neighbors they do it regardless of that neighbor's race. They watch each other's houses when one goes out of town. The make food to bring over when a family member is ill. Your neighbors, regardless of their race, become like an extended family.

And if liberals REALLY want to see how far the South has come, I can think of about 3 soul food restaurants in Memphis that're owned by black families. And their clientele is mostly white folks who work in offices. Ditto the Neeley's BBQ restaurants (Neeley's & Interstate BBQ). And vice versa. You'll see just as many black folks as white folks sitting in Corky's or the Rendezvous, both places owned by white families.

Food has briged many gaps in the South. I'd challenge any liberal with preconcieved notions about the South to come down over a nice muggy June weekend & just observe the scenes I've just described. If they were honest (not holding my breat for that) they'd have to change their previously held ideas about what that part of the country is like.

And Haley Barbour is one of those people who made the South into what I've just described. Most people of his generation didn't CARE about race. PERIOD. Of course, he's a Republican, so he's already a racist in the eyes of the left. The fact that he's a Repub. from MS? Well, I think we all know that's TOO big a target for them to ignore. Mark my words, if Barbour gains ANY traction or looks like a frontrunner, he'll be portrayed as George Wallace, Bull Connor, & Al Gore Sr, all rolled into one.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:15AM

I lived in the South in the '70's and I can tell you, they were still fighting the Civil War then, but I don't know now. However, when I see a celebration of the Day of Secession by South Carolina being promoted, talk of secession by Gov Perry in Texas and Nullification of Federal Law in Virginia and glorification of the Confederacy, it makes me wonder if some in the South are still fighting the Civil War.
It's sad, very sad some people have such small minds and bitter hatreds.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 10:50AM

Spare us your highschool hyperbole. South Carolina is one of the OLDEST states in the Union. They celebrate ALL the aspects of their history. I'm sure that like St. Paddy's day, its nothing more than an excuse for people to drink beer & eat BBQ. Perry was talking of secession by Texas because that's actually written into their constitution. "Nullification of Federal law" in Virginia is how our system works, my little facist. The government doesn't just get to pass laws & then that's the end of it. Must not be too up on your civics courses. Oh, & when that law states that the Fed. gov't. has the right to make you buy something, that law is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!

There really is no limit to the depths of your idiocy.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:36PM

Perhaps you should refer to the Supremacy clause of the United States Constitution - ya know, that document ratified by and supreme over ALL states?
The Supremacy Clause is a clause in the United States Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2. This clause asserts and establishes the Constitution, the federal laws made in pursuance of the Constitution, and treaties made by the United States with foreign nations as "the Supreme Law of the Land" (using modern capitalization). The text of Article VI, Clause 2, establishes these as the highest form of law in the American legal system, both in the Federal courts and in all of the State courts, mandating that all state judges shall uphold them, even if there are state laws or state constitutions that conflict with the powers of the Federal government. (Note that the word "shall" is used here and in the language of the law, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.)
"The government doesn't just get to pass laws & then that's the end of it. " - yes it is, subject to Supreme Court review of course.
Please go learn something before displaying your confidence in your knowledge when it clearly shows your ignorance.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:34PM

I'd have to agree with you, NavyBrat. As a Yankee, it shocked me to see kids as polite as I saw in Alabama when I moved there. I imagine Memphis is that way, too. But Kentucky is definitely Yankee.

That being said, there are pockets of civility in the North. Rural Minnesoata and the Dakotas.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:36PM

Sorry, Minnesota.

Getting back to the South--B'ham was a mirror image of Pittsburgh when I lived near there in the 90s---former blue collar steel town now with an University with a first rate medical school as the major employer.

I can't handle the summer heat anymore. But I love the South. My in-laws are increadibly nice people and my mother in law (RIP) was the finest human being I have ever met.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 9:30AM

How predictable.

Haley has a white-cracker accent who looks like a typical good ole boy. He MUST be racist.

This is liberal playbook 101: be the first to write the narrative of someone who is perceived as a threat. I refer you to Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, G.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan circa 1979, Barry Goldwater circa 1963, etc.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:17AM

Barbour opened his mouth and proved his worthiness ... best to keep your mouth shut because when there's blood in the water, the sharks will come - not the other way around, bud.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 10:54AM

Maybe you should learn to read. What did he say that was SOOOOOO bad? What's got you thong in such a knot, little girl? You're just mad because he's a Republican with a Southern accent, & your masters on LSDNBC & at the NYT have told you "he's bad." Your selective reading of what the man said will not stand up to scrutiny. Hell, YOU don't stand up to any kind of scrutiny, Mr. Professional Victim. Go cry to Al Sharpton. See if you can arrange a boycott of MS.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 11:41AM

Purple, you sound like a good soldier. Was that you in military garb guarding the polling station outside Philadelphia?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:39PM

I find it quite amazing that y'all think I'm a black man because I defend their case. That in itself is racist. You really don't think one of YOU could stand up for the blacks? Really? The real question is why don't you? In 30 -50 years we will be in the minority folks - and you want to be treated as you treat minorities today? Out of self preservation you should be more tolerant and accepting today, so you will be tomorrow.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 1:25PM

Why should I stand up for blacks? Are they not capable of standing up for themselves? Apparently you must think that blacks are inferior. Otherwise why would you or anyone else have to "stand up' for them? Your racism is showing.

Palehorse| 12.22.10 @ 1:26PM

George you beat me by a nanosecond!!!

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:00PM

The real issue is why you are not standing up too? No big deal to you, right?

Palehorse| 12.22.10 @ 1:25PM

Why does anyone have to stand up for "them"? Are you insinuating that they may be inferior to us so they need help? Who's the racist now? And so what if you are white, what is with the guilty conciseness? Did you personally perpetrate any of the offenses? Do us all a favor and get over your holier than thou self.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:41PM

YOU...DEFEND...THEIR....CASE.

Purpleguy, Liberal policies are responsible for the destruction of the Black family, for the high illegitimacy rate of Black Children that dooms them to poverty and crime, and for the mass murder of Black fetuses (which is what Planned parenthood, an eugenically-based organization, planned from the beginning. I've got reams of data on that Purple Guy, and I was a debater. Don't make me data dump on you.).

I fail to see how Liberals have done anything but grotesquely harm Black People.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:02PM

I never said Liberals were perfect or right - but they do try, you do not. the real question is why not?

JeffW| 12.22.10 @ 5:05PM

YES, I want to be treated exactly as I treat minorities everyday!!! I see and judge them by the content of their character, not their skin or heritage. The same way my Irish-American Indian grandfather taught me to be. How do you know none of us has stood up for minorities? How do we know you have? Simply because you say so. How come you don't live by the rules you want others to live by?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:03PM

Good for you .. a real American. There are 2 of you out here .. and there is hope. Thank You!

Sam Vaughn| 12.22.10 @ 9:30AM

There is an incredible amount of ignorance towards the south especially from those bastions of "enlightenment" in the North and West. When my parents moved us south to find work we were horrified as kids. We grew up with movies that highlighted, poverty, racism, violence, you know what I'm talking about. It took me over a year to realize that the neighbors in the rural suburb of Atlanta were friendly and warm. Trained as I was in the North to be suspicious of overt friendliness "what do you want.." It took me a while to see the reality of living in the south. In fact most of the southerners I met were accepting and a lot less racist than those paragons of virtue up North who only put on an act. I'll never go back North.

I know what Haley was talking about.

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 10:11AM

I'm right there with you on the "overt friendliness." I've witnessed it happen to my wife, who's from Philly, the first time I brought her home to Memphis. She couldn't believe that any group of people could be so nice to a total stranger. She's used to it now. And we REGULARLY look into moving down there as soon as we're able.

Steve A| 12.22.10 @ 10:44AM

Navy, I grew up in New England until I married in my 20s. I remember the first time I drove South & stopped in a convenience store late one night in South Carolina. The gal at the counter asked me how I was doing, commented on the weather, asked me where I was headed, all with a polite & sincere smile. I finally asked her what she wanted from me, as virtually NOBODY north of the Virginia line would EVER contemplate such an approach to a complete stranger. It had literally, never happened to me prior to this in ANY setting.

I have lived all over the country. All areas have their own unique positive & negative qualities but I can tell you, without a doubt, that Central VA is where it's at for me. Would not consider, in a million years, moving back North.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:19AM

Ha! Living in the suburbs of cosmopolitan Atlanta is NOT the real South. Go 30 miles in either direction, and you'd know what I mean. I lived EXACTLY there, and I and I can tell y'all that it is not the peaceful, friendly place you recall outside of Atlanta environs.

George True| 12.22.10 @ 11:35AM

So what?

Sam Vaughn| 12.22.10 @ 11:44AM

obviously you've never lived here. I live over 45 miles away. When I moved here everything outside the perimeter was in the boonies. Once again ignorance on display....

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:42PM

Oh, yes I have ... quibble about distance, but outside of Atlanta, redneckery abounds.

Ray| 12.22.10 @ 12:50PM

What a racist statement you have made! You should be ashamed of yourself! Or is shame only reserved for "rednecks?"

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:04PM

Bigot is not the same as racist .. look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:44PM

Purpleguy:

I lived in a small town of 13,000 people 1 hr from any larger city. I treated their psychiatric problems. Off Mile Marker 304, Interstate Highway 65, Alabama.

I'm sure you are a nice person, so please take what I am about to say purely as a comment on your knowledge base---YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT THE RURAL SOUTH.

Frank Drackman | 12.22.10 @ 2:48PM

hate to admit this, spending 4 yrs of med school in Mobile, but can't remember the mile markers...
Just that it was 210 miles from Auburn...
So did you practice in LA or NA?

Frank

Brian Mc| 12.22.10 @ 9:41AM

Whenever I watch the hordes of malcontents uncontrollably lashing out at our ordered troops attempting to make their way through the ravaged landscape of Mogadishu, in "Blackhawk Down" I similarly envision the likes of leftist groups groping at every opportunity to disparage conservatism, decency and truth. I wonder why that is?

Ret. Marine| 12.22.10 @ 9:52AM

My take on this and after having read all of the comments thus far is Mr. Baily is a Conservative, with true conservative values and by God the libtards are not going to have anyone realize he represents the right ways of doing things. It all about perception and lies. They perceive it to be their way or the highway, and they have proven time after time they are willing to lie about it to cover their perception of what is labeled as a racist.
Some one needs to hand these sons and daughters of satan a Bible and a dictionary, yah think?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:20AM

Maybe you should be handed the US Constitution. Which takes precedence for you - Bible or Constitution?

NavyBrat | 12.22.10 @ 11:01AM

Oh, this is rich. You're lecturing someone about the Constitution while pissing & moaning about VA "nullifying federal law?" Apparently you didn't know that lawsuits can be brought by people or states against the Federal gov't. And those cases go up through the court system. Some judges will uphold, some will not. In this case. the gov't. was unable to prove its case that NOT buying insurance constituted "inerstate commerce" (good luck polishing THAT turd in front of ANY judge). So now it will be appealed to the next court.

Maybe you oughtta know a little what you're speaking about before engaging in fits of sophomoric hyperbole & telling others to read something that you clearly haven't. Or if you have, you have no understanding of it.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 12:59PM

It is illegal for a person to sue the US Government. With one exception:
The Federal Tort Claims Act ("FTCA")
Historically, under the doctrine of "sovereign immunity," you were not permitted to sue the king. Sovereign immunity has carried over to modern times in the form of a general rule that you cannot sue the government -- unless the government says you can. Fortunately, the Federal Tort Claims Act ("FTCA") allows certain kinds of lawsuits against federal employees who are acting within the scope of their employment.

If you believe you may have a claim for negligence (careless conduct, or other wrongful or "tortious" conduct) against a federal agency or employee, you must first determine whether you can sue the federal government under the FTCA. Unless your claim is allowed by the FTCA, there is a good chance it will be barred by sovereign immunity.
Only States can bring suit to the United States. Those are the lawsuits you will hear about. Nullifying Federal law is illegal.

As far as the healthcare law is concerned, the individual mandate legality is not settled yet, but I'm certain there will be changes made to implement it widely, since the Insurance Industry and Pharmaceutical Industry will lobby for it and the Republican beholden to them for cash will cave and agree... Supreme Court notwithstanding.

Any thing else your oh so extreme knowledge base wants to discuss?

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:37AM

Purpleguy, I've read all of your claptrap here and I've come to the conclusion that you're just an arrogant little twit with no allegiance to facts, truth, logic, reason, or evidence, and that you have nothing about which to be arrogant.

Palehorse| 12.22.10 @ 11:56AM

Wow Purpleguy, just wow. Now when it is convenient to your your weak argument you demand we read the constitution, that cute. However I have read all of your comments in this thread and have come to a conclusion. You are a victim. A victim of your own making.

All of your replies appear to have been penned by Al Sharpton himself, how is it that you can continue to follow the word of a man whose own survival is based upon the continuation of "racism"? How about you pull up your boots straps and join the 21st century? Instead of wallowing in the self pity of 50 years past.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:45PM

Review the Contradictions with me, Purpleguy.

Ret. Marine| 12.22.10 @ 7:37PM

They are equal in my book, thank you very much.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:05PM

Wow - not much thought on that one, huh?

PattyMor| 12.22.10 @ 9:58AM

Well the faux outrage tells me one thing. They must think Haley has a chance to win the White House, so they are out to savage him early and sully up his image.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 10:21AM

Hes' doing fine all by himself ...

George True| 12.22.10 @ 11:19AM

"He's doing fine all by himself."

I think not. You guys are doing the sullying. And none of it based in truth. This little manufactured "gaffe" that you leftists have whipped up is already taking its last gasps. It doesn't work anymore. People see right through it.

You see, it used to be the case that a lie would make it halfway around the world before the truth even had its shoes on. But now, with the internet, the lie du jour coming12 from the left can be debunked within hours or even minutes.

Is it any wonderthat your master Obama has directed his commie head of the FCC to (illegally)take over the internet.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:00PM

So, what's the lie?

George True| 12.22.10 @ 1:32PM

Everything the left says, that's what. You guys live in some kind of bizarro world where everything is the exact opposite of what it is in this world.

But specifically, the idea that now, all of a sudden, Haley Barbour is somehow a racist, that is the current lie of the day that your ilk are promulgating.

And people are supposed to believe it just because you guys say so. Hmmm. Nope, don't think so.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:06PM

No, he may be or may not be .. but what he said was ... it's that simple .. words matter.

Anthony| 12.22.10 @ 10:18AM

This lefty slur is an easy one to swat away, and doesn't require a high priced K street PR firm to rehabilitate ole Haley.
All Haley has to do is say that he was with Bill Clinton when the church bombings took place in Little Rock, and that both he and Clinton cried together as they watched.
If that fails, just say that sheets Robert K.K.K. Byrd (RIP) was at the King rally, and he wasn't there scoping out chicks.

martin j smith| 12.22.10 @ 10:25AM

Purple guy is non only NOT on my page but Not in the smae Book. He is not only NOT on the same bOOK but in the SAME Library. He is not only not in the SAME LIBRARY but in the same country. He is not only not in the same COUNTRY but not in the same PLANET. He is not only NOT IN THE SAME PLANET but he is NOT in the same GALAXY, and not only is purpleguy not in the same GALAXY he is not in the SAME SOLAR SYSTEM. He is out in space !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leave him in peace to float where s/he is.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:01PM

Well you made me chuckle .. thanks for that ...

martin j smith| 12.22.10 @ 10:26AM

Purple guy is non only NOT on my page but Not in the smae Book. He is not only NOT on the same bOOK but in the SAME Library. He is not only not in the SAME LIBRARY but in the same country. He is not only not in the same COUNTRY but not in the same PLANET. He is not only NOT IN THE SAME PLANET but he is NOT in the same GALAXY, and not only is purpleguy not in the same GALAXY he is not in the SAME SOLAR SYSTEM. He is out in space !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leave him in peace to float where s/he is.

Steve A| 12.22.10 @ 10:53AM

Martin, I feel like I just watched the intro to Star Trek.

Speedbump| 12.22.10 @ 11:03AM

Hey, Purpleguy...before you call me a rascist, know this: I dislike Obama's white half, too.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 11:42AM

So does he.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:02PM

why?

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:47PM

I'm going to assume the 'Why" is about Obama disliking his white side---review his racist comments about his grandmother.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:02PM

you said it, I didn't

Richard Baker| 12.22.10 @ 11:08AM

Purplething is of the mind that if you were conscious during the '60s civil rights struggle in the South and white then you're guilty of SOMETHING.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:06PM

Noooo, but you ARE guilty of being in denial if today you act like nothing happened and it wasn't all that bad.
Just because Germans today didn't live in the time of the WWII, does that mean they should ignore the Holocaust, as if it didn't happen?
It is the same problem. I'm sure you understand the horror of the Holocaust and why softening it's impact is horrific. But, I hope I'm wrong, but y'all seem to think it's okay to soften the impact of Jim Crow Laws, segregation and treatment of blacks in the South. Do you?

Eric Damon| 12.22.10 @ 11:10AM

Purpleguy wants to reference the "real South" as being 30 miles from Atlanta, so there must be some rural ghetto there that he can say is representative of the South, since all he cares to see is a racist behind every tree and under every stone. But I have lived in the "real South" my entire life in North Carolina, in a small rural town, and I have loved every minute of it.

I have cousins who were in school when our public schools integrated, yet by the time I got there no one thought twice about it. The problems at our schools were usually not about race, but about the rivalries between the two small towns that fed our schools system. That doesn't mean that I haven't faced some real racists in my day, but they have been few and far between. Hell, my oldest friend is a white guy that I met when we were in 3rd grade..but he's not my white friend, just my friend. And I would much rather deal with an overt racist any day of the week than the undercover bigots who smile in my face, while treating me as an inferior person.

The South is many things, but it is not the lone stronghold of racism in this country as many have been led to believe. Just like anywhere else, there are both good and bad people, but the bad do not define us all.

Sam Vaughn| 12.22.10 @ 11:52AM

Eric, I'm hear you. I spend a lot of time explaining to my Northern cousins that marrying your cousin doesn't happen in the South, talk about tired worn out tasteless demeaning of anybody who lives below the Mason-Dixon line, the jokes and sterotyping never ends. But that's how holier than thou elite Northerners treat everybody in fly-over country. It's their way of feeling better about themselves.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:07PM

I agree with you. Bad apples don't spoil the bunch .. no one is talking about the entire South, but you know as well as I do that there are some ...

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:48PM

The headquarters of The National White People's Party in the 1970s was Cicero, IL. Outside Chicago. Hardly Southern.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:08PM

Oh, that old racist northerners ... you found that all by yourself? hahaha

Bo| 12.22.10 @ 11:20AM

Purpleguy doesn't know sh!! about the South. I guarantee you that you have a more probable chance of of being shot or knifed in Atlanta than you do 30 miles outside of Atlanta Suburbs.
North criticises the South for its discrimination but ask the Black guy what he thought/thinks about the Projects where White Northerners "kept" the Blacks. Likewise, the Northerner was not concerned about busing in the 60-70's until courts ruled they had to do it because they were segregated as much as the Southern schools. They screamed like stuffed pigs. I could go on and on with examples showing the North was just as bad as the South if not worse in their race relations in the 50's-60's. I daresay that today the Blacks and Liberals are now the racists.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:09PM

Sorry, that doesn't absolve the South from facing it's horrific treatment of blacks. " Johnny did it too, Mommy" didn't work with her, and you're argument doesn't work now.

martin j smith| 12.22.10 @ 11:38AM

Steve A. From my perspective reading purpleguy and his/her ilk is like watching Star Drek--Only the Cartoon Version. Translation: S/he is eith so stupid to believe I take his dribble seriously or s/he doesn't care, just rattling off talkingpoints. Purple guy and his/her ilk should be aware that the point of view s/he puts out is garbage and we know what is happening including the BS of the NYT

Steve A| 12.22.10 @ 2:23PM

Martin, I understand completely & agree. It was not a knock at your comment. It just reminded me of The Enterprise zooming by.

Yodergrrr| 12.22.10 @ 11:47AM

Here are things Republicans did for Civil Rights: Emancipation Proclamation; 13th Amendment; 14th Amendment; 15th Amendment; Civil Rights Act of 1875; Booker T. Washington invited to White House; Civil Rights Act of 1957; Civil Rights Act of 1964; Ending raced based policies state by state through Ward Connerly; Jackie Robinson breaking the color line (he was Republican) etc.
What have Democrats done - The party of slavery; the party of Jime Crow segregation; the party of lynching; the party of the KKK- it was used as an arm of the party to stop black and white Republicans from voting; the party of Bull Connor; the party of abortion which kills a much higher percentage of blacks than any other group; the war on poverty which has destroyed the Black family; the party of racial preferences. I could never be a Democrat because of their disgraceful history.

Occam's Tool| 12.22.10 @ 1:49PM

You forgot Lincoln's "there goes my friend Douglass" at his inauguration reception.

carol| 12.22.10 @ 11:49AM

ok here we go... get one potential candidate at a time
"They " are going to hit one at a time on the list.
so when it comes to racisim, the Klan, shall we talk good ol' boy Bob Bird,,," he had to do it." Can't these guy s get it right and the one that does will win the day. I liked Barbour.....

martin j smith| 12.22.10 @ 11:58AM

You can bet the MSM will ,throw dirt at Any candidate not their own. So the best bet is to thow in so many candidates that they get confused and have to work hard on so many. It would be good idea to actually have a select few or really good ones but in the mix a large number of others who are plausable candidates, Give as little info as possible to the opposition . Let them guess all they want want the real candidate(s ) is ( are ). Just know that they are liars congenitally speaking.

Richard Baker| 12.22.10 @ 12:03PM

Bo:
Your comments remind me of the craziness regarding busing in South Boston, Massachusetts (referred to as Southie there) where, for example, a black attorney was speared with an American flag pole by a white kid during the '70s. Of course, this sort of thing only happened South of the Mason-Dixon Line, right?

Margie| 12.22.10 @ 12:07PM

Purple Perpetraitor is a figment of his own imagination.
He is a legend in his own mind.
Just like the usual Leftist.
They have nothing of value to contribute.
None of their policies are helpful, but to their own voting base.
They are the Kings of Racism with their numerous Race based policies, all the while accusing us of doing same.
They form their Racist and other activist group policies based not upon what is beast for the country, but upon what will get the most votes.
They LIE to the people and make them think that they really CARE about them, but then only to find out how duped they were for believing them because policies that are race or other group based never work anyway, and end up punishing them as well.
The ONLY way the Leftist Democrat party continues to win in this country is by continuing to LIE to the people.
They lie about conservatives both personally and about their policies. And they see Hayley Barbour as a threat because he represents conservative values and they can smell that scent a million miles away so they must work quickly to snuff him out.
The Left has the values of the same master that they serve, the Father of lies and ruler of this world. (See John 8:44).
It's the only way they get anywhere, by lying. Like the PurplePerpetraitorguy.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 12:29PM

Nicely stated :-)

Margie| 12.22.10 @ 12:47PM

Thanks. I saw your comment above as to the Liberal Playbook 101. We were thinking along the same lines.
Now, are you going to tell me if you are theee Mr. Bob Grant of decades and decades of conservative radio fame?
My inquiring mind wants to know.
Now get off my phone! Heh.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 9:48PM

Marge, I'm going to keep you guessing 'cause it's so much fun.

Simon Templar| 12.22.10 @ 1:06PM

I am going to make an historical proclamation today like the one that citizens made at the McCarthy hearings.
On this day, 12.22.10 day of our Lord, you Purple Guy and all the Left Wing of Politics will no longer hold the special and absolute position of harbinger and definer of politically correct values, policies, history, attitudes, sexual practices, and reality in general. Nor shall you have the power to determine without question who is racist, who is not, who is sexist, who is not and all other "ist" that you have defined. You will on this day forward be seen for what you are....an arrogant, manipulative, self deluded, self appointed blow hard that seeks power by any means necessary.
Or put simply, no one died and made you God, and by the way you do not believe in God anyway!

Tom| 12.22.10 @ 1:08PM

I do not visit the sins of the father upon the son and thus hold Governor Barbour blameless of any racist acts by the White Citizens Council of Yazoo City. But anyone, including him, who thinks it was some sort of benign group who sort dialogue and peace between the races is misinformed. It was a blatantly racist organization dedicated to keeping the races apart.

Barbour should be judged by his actions not by his recollections of his teenage years. I have seen nothing written about him that indicates he is even remotely a racist.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 1:14PM

I agree with you completely with one exception - words do matter. They hurt as much as any knife and sometimes more. Words represent an idea and we all know the pen is mightier than the sword. An idea can topple nations. Those who wield words on the public stage, in a position of public trust must be held to a higher standard.

Thank you for your insightful and reasonable commentary... I found one person out here... there is hope.

Simon Templar| 12.22.10 @ 1:35PM

Yeah, words do matter..so stop calling people racist when you have no evidence to the fact, stop your class warfare rhetoric, stop telling people that their money is not their own, stop insulting christians, the family structure, traditional values, stop insulting our allies, stop the lies and insults to our founding fathers, our economic system, our constitutional rights, yes words to topple nations, your father, Karl, knows this very well.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:09PM

love America or leave it...

Simon Templar| 12.22.10 @ 11:41PM

No...apply the same standards you so sanctimoniously and hypocritically expound on and support to yourself and your fellow communist.
As far as loving America, you do not. So, in the interest of your happiness and ours perhaps you should consider emigrating to such socialist utopias as China, Cuba, Venezuela....

Steve A| 12.22.10 @ 2:55PM

Let's talk about words on the public stage, shall we.

"typical white person;" "clinging to guns & religion;" "holding the American people hostage;" "I'm ready for hand to hand combat;" "the Cambridge police acted stupidly;" "when you spread the wealth, everyone benefits;" Harry Reid "negro dialect;" comment. Biden; "clean, articulate" comment. Shall I continue ?? I will await your moral outrage.......

Simon Templar| 12.22.10 @ 3:24PM

Thank you Steve! Excellent...you could have gone on with about two dozen more examples just covering the last two years! I especially liked the one where Idiot-in-chief tells the public not to go to Las Vegas and the city has a third of its convention business cancelled!

Steve A| 12.22.10 @ 3:48PM

Simon, It's like fish in a barrel with these guys. Too easy. They just vanish when they get smoked in a debate & / or resort to trying to ignore the point & insult.

As for the Vegas comment(s), the best part is he did it 2 X to compound the moron factor. Another personal favorite of mine, although not insulting, is the pledge to campaign in "all 57 states." ANY Republican candidate says that & it is fed on a continuous loop 24/7 for 10 years. This guy (Obama) is simply overmatched & not mentally equipped for the job. This would actually be fine if he had competent advisors, an appreciation of economic common sense & lacked a distain for the foundation of the country.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:11PM

Nice change of topic .. typical conservative ploy .. can't defend your position, so let's attack... no workie guys.

somnolence| 12.22.10 @ 1:20PM

Reckless charges of racism, more often than not, are the last refuge of a scoundrel. I'm not a great Barbour fan, but these charges are just as bad as backstabbing and evil gossip. Perhaps the worst racism imaginable is same ethnicity racism, and some African chief tribesmen were the original slaveholders, as well as Romans, Russians, Anglo-Saxons, etc. When we live in a society where the "N" word is not singled out enough in contempt and derision for being used frequently in the black community, I tend to think most charges of racism are the charges of hypocrites.

sestamibi| 12.22.10 @ 1:29PM

Haley Barbour: "The sky is a beautiful blue today."

Liberal Media: "What'd you say about my mother?"

BobL| 12.22.10 @ 1:50PM

Before questioning Haley Barbers credentials, answer this: "Is being a Exalted Cyclops in the KKK a disqualification from being a US Senator?"

Steve A| 12.22.10 @ 2:25PM

BobL, Not if you vote Progressive. You are a hero & champion of justice. These guys are a total joke box.

Margie| 12.22.10 @ 4:19PM

I believe it is considered a resume' enhancer for the Democrat party, is it not?

I know infidelity certainly is. Especially if it's with a 21 yr. old White House intern.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:11PM

Yes.

Bill| 12.22.10 @ 1:42PM

Three of the Left's greatest bugaboos appeared in this story: (1) it took place in the South; (2) it took place in Mississippi; and (3) Haley Barbour is white and is talking about race relations between black people and white people.

Oldefarte| 12.22.10 @ 1:54PM

HEY, PURPLE MORON, LISTEN TO THIS: I was born, raised and educated in Y-A-Z-O-O C-I-T-Y, M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-I. I knew the people-citizens, the business people, the school officials, the government officials, the lawyers, the doctors, and anything/everything about that town. Shut your fat, ignorant, moronic mouth when you don't know squat about what you're talking about. Author Willie Morris also grew up and lived in Yazoo, and wrote a famous book [NORTH TOWARDS HOME] about Yazoo's integration experience [partly]. There was never, in my childhood experiences, a dispicable, racial occurance between it's balck and white population, similar to those experienced elsewhere; so don't allow your mouth to excrement about things you know absolutely nothing about. The citizens of that town were decent, hard working, honorable individuals that handled the difficult integration situation with honor and class on both sides [both black and white]. So PURPLE IDIOT, shut your ignorant mouth when commenting upon things of which you have no knowledge. Oh, and for the record, the Barbour family for generations [including Haley] have been outstanding and honorable individuals, lawyers, citizens, and public servents. Haley Barbour has dedicated himself to Yaxoo City, the state of Mississippi and to the the entire nation as a chairman of the Republican Party etc; so if and until you have the professional credentials to match or exceed his, I'd simply shut my mouth and try not to somehow conpletely demonstrate my total ignorance, okay??????????????

Bill| 12.22.10 @ 2:11PM

With one exception, I agree with everything you say. The one area where I disagree with you is: it's M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

Oldefarte| 12.22.10 @ 3:44PM

Sorry, MY COMPUTER-CUP RUNNETH OVER, I suppose!!!!!!!!

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:15PM

Why so hostile? If racism is truly dead in Yazoo City, congrats. But Barbours statements were racist. Why he said it is the debate. If he's not racist, great, than much ado about nothing. But it sure doesn't look like it - even he doesn't stand by his words - you did know that he backtracked, didn't you?

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 9:57PM

If you truly are white, your sick. Your inferiority complex dictates your need to have victims (blacks) and villians (certain whites). Liberals always need victims so they can "come to their rescue" but thinking people know this for what is is:

The need to exert power.

Don't you realize many blacks find your need to come to their rescue extremely offensive?

As always, many people of your ilk don't think things through.

Old Joe| 12.22.10 @ 2:12PM

Purpleguy,

I am 65 now, was born in the north but moved to South Carolina shortly after birth. I spent most of my summers in New Jersey until my grandparents on that side passed. I found as a child that people were friendly in both states and that the societies were also segregated in both states. Whites distrusted blacks in New Jersey as they did in South Carolina and my father’s northern family was much less race tolerant than my mother’s southern family. Racism existed in the north and in the south then and still does now. It is human nature to want to be with your own kind.
One final note Purpleguy, I have been reading your ranting and noticing your use of words and phrases whixh presents a question I hope you will answer. Are you really a female or just a girly man?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 3:22PM

As a former Air Force Captain, why don't you meet me in the alley - and i'll show you tough guy.

Oldefarte| 12.22.10 @ 3:38PM

Many Air Force guys wanting to meet someone in an alley was for their SEXUAL GRATIFICATION purposes!!!!!!

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:16PM

Oldefarte? I dont think so - you're not my type ... hehe

Old Soldier| 12.22.10 @ 4:17PM

Damn! That's the funniest thing you wrote yet!

Old Soldier| 12.22.10 @ 4:22PM

Everybody watch out! A tough-guy former Air Force REMF troll is going to kick our butts!

Tim*| 12.22.10 @ 4:58PM

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha !

The Wingwiper's In The Rear,With The Beer.

Troll Watch| 12.22.10 @ 4:37PM

Very amusing purplegay. This reminds me of Obama's first pitch. He can't throw so he tries to mimic of the style of a pitch. He works on a leg kick to go along with his sissy throw. It looks ridiculous but apparently Obama thought it made himself look like a ball player. Purplegay is doing the same thing with tough guy talk. Air Force Captains aren't known to be tough guys. Officers in general aren't known to be tough guys. Tough guys don't give you a resume. Why in the alley instead of in an alley? "I'll show you". Really? That is what you say? This looks like the survival strategy of a Blowfish (aptly named for purplegay). They blow themselves up to appear larger and scare off prey. They are also very toxic which seems like it has the race obsessed purplegay pegged. I am pretty certain that purplegay is a girly man by the way. He doesn't swear enough for a left wing gal.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:17PM

You seriously think Im meeting a 65 year old in the alley? Really? Are you that stupid?

Tim*| 12.22.10 @ 9:39PM

Wingwipers meet little boys in playgrounds.

Big Leo| 12.22.10 @ 2:17PM

The reality that purple and his cohorts aren't getting is that their race card doesn't work any more except with the fanatical and stupid. Very few people care one way or the other about race, and even less would change our current laws. Most of the people of the South dealt with the problem of integration with more grace, compassion, and imagination than the race card bigots could ever muster themselves. The ones that didn't do so made the headlines. The rest of them just settled down to a difficult task and did the best they could, which is seriously all we should expect of anybody.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 3:24PM

Commentary here to the contrary, my friend

Amor de Cosmos| 12.22.10 @ 6:14PM

Does what went on around you as a child become your political burden? Barbour was a kid when all of this was happening. Oh well, he had "skin" privilege so what he did as an adult is not relevant. Clinton grew up in a similar milieu. What's the difference?

I remember now: be a modern Democrat and all is forgiven. (Except, do not mention which party was the party of white supremecy and which was started as the abolitionist party because it spoils the narrative of Democrat moral supremecy). The fact Barbour is a Republican from south of the Ohio River means he must be racist, right? Just a cleverer George Wallace, right?

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:44PM

I throw around inane locutions such as "pejorative epithet used by francophone..." jut to hide the fact that, not only am I an insecure little twit, but I'm not very bright either. But you knew that.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 3:24PM

What's the matter, can't use your own handle? Stop using mine

Oldefarte| 12.22.10 @ 3:40PM

What, you're gonna start crying and run to yo momma, Nancy Pilosi????????

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:18PM

Got you riled up, eh Olde?

David| 12.22.10 @ 2:49PM

Mista Kapitalism: Haley Barbour may LOOK like a HOG, but you moron, are a PIG AT HEART. Not a decent bone in your boday. I guess you are God's gift to women - huh? You are probably about a homely as Janet Reno.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 2:58PM

Please don't hate me just because I wrote pretentious twaddle such as:

...- words do matter. They hurt as much as any knife and sometimes more. Words represent an idea and we all know the pen is mightier than the sword. An idea can topple nations. Those who wield words on the public stage, in a position of public trust must be held to a higher standard....
Thank you for your insightful and reasonable commentary... I found one person out here... there is hope.

Truth be told, this tripe even makes me bilious and I wrote it!

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 3:25PM

What's the matter, can't use your own handle? Stop using mine - Coward.

Oldefarte| 12.22.10 @ 3:42PM

Ever heard that old saying, STICK AND STONES WILL BREAK YOUR BONES, BUT WORDS WILL NEVER HURT YOU?????????

Tim*| 12.22.10 @ 9:58PM

Words do matter.
"The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied."
Jeremiah Wright

Black Racist Jeremiah Wright married Barack Obama and his wife Michelle. He baptizes Barack Obama's two daughters and has been Obama’s pastor for more than twenty years. He is even credited in Obama's book, The Audacity of Hope, and the title actually came from one of Wright’s sermons.

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 10:39PM

Read Dreams from My Father if you want to get in the head of our dear president. He clearly has unresolved issues with the white side of his lineage, not to mention his utter disdain for Britain - the Brits better think twice about the continual ass kissing on their part.

Oh yea, he also hates business or capitalism of any sort.

He's a piece of work indeed.

Oldefarte| 12.22.10 @ 3:56PM

Let me add the hypocracy of most liberal Democrat politicians who have extreme wealth which enables them to isolate themselves from racial integration while demeaning those others who have dealt with and determined solutions to such human problems. Investigate the personal lives and residences of any/all of these hypocrites and you'll find that they live in gated/excluded residential communities [completely segrated by income from minorities not possessing necessary funding to enter/reside in same]; their children attend exclusive/expensive private schools that income prevent integration; all the while using racism politics as a brainwashing weapon to effective masquerade their true personae and to garner the political votes of vernable minorities believing that these lying Democratic politicians have their best interests at heart. Does THE LION OF THE SENATE and others possibly come to mind???????????

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 4:15PM

Oh dear! Someone is using my handle without my expressed, written consent and I am so livid that I'm just about to stamp my little feet in anger! Even worse, the malefactor is a better writer than I am! Oh heaven forfend! Oh dear me!

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:20PM

As if ...

Bob Grant| 12.22.10 @ 10:41PM

That retort is so girly. You are so outed.

Tim*| 12.22.10 @ 4:15PM

Playing The Race Card is subject to the same rules, as Cryin' Wolf.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:20PM

Why?

Tim*| 12.22.10 @ 9:42PM

Why Not Race Baitin' AgendaBoy ?

GBinPA| 12.22.10 @ 4:28PM

If you want to find the real racists, start at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and work you way outward. I wonder what Obama was doing when he was 15?

GBinPA| 12.22.10 @ 4:30PM

The NY Times is best hung in the outhouse where it can be put to good use.

Hamco| 12.22.10 @ 4:42PM

Barbour is guilty of one thing and the NYT hates him for it - he is a white conservative man from the South. I believe if they had their way all of us that fit that description would be rounded up and gassed, just like the SS did it.

And some people think we should give up our guns. Are they nuts?

W| 12.22.10 @ 5:05PM

It seems Purple is the designated lefty for this week to annoy and distract. Previously he posted as TedR, and i suspect currently as Alan Brooks. Ignore him, He is a rude, ill informed, and a complete waste of time. It is like watching Keith Oberman, ok for a few laughs, But after a while you start feeling sorry for him, like watching a car wreck. Listening to and reading these lefties is like watching a car wreck. These lefties are predictable and rude. They must have some bible called POSTING FOR LEFT WING DUMMIES. The same old stuff.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:23PM

I have yet to have my arguments countered with facts. All I hear is what you believe, and you can't argue against facts with beliefs. With one exception of someone who lived in Yazoo City, MS - facts have not abounded in your Conservative Circle here.

Why is that?

Tim*| 12.22.10 @ 9:46PM

Barack Obama spent 20 years in The Black Racist, Jeremiah Wright's Church.
That's a fact.
Do your homework.

W| 12.22.10 @ 10:28PM

Purp, in reviewing this article, you have spent the entire day ranting your left wing opinions. Your "facts" are what you believe, you have your own set of facts. There is no point in arguing with an idealogue. A waste of time. Get a job and get a life, above you mentioned Jesus and the Good Book. Go read it and live it. Your" name" surfaced within the last week? Where were you before? just a simple answer will suffice, skip the rambling and go read the Good Book.

W| 12.22.10 @ 10:30PM

forgot, good night, TedR.

Oldefarte| 12.23.10 @ 11:46AM

I am the 'someone who lived in Yazoo City, Ms'. Again, if you wish to argue/debate this Barbour/Yazoo situation/editorials, bring it on! I know the town, the people, the situations, etc and YOU DO NOT [since you have never lived there and don't know anything about any of this situation, and therefore have absolutely no basis for your speculative arguments]. If you ignorantly still wish to debate same, I'm here!!!!!!!!

Nite| 12.22.10 @ 8:13PM

The liberal blacks and the NAACP have forgotten, that it was the Democrats in the South who tried to keep them from voting, and prevented them from having rights. It was the Republicans that welcomed them with open arms. Haley Barbour is certainly NOT a racist. Dems seem to be terrified that he will run for President and bounce the radical Obama.

Purpleguy| 12.22.10 @ 9:24PM

Wow - they forgot, really? ditz.

Heywood| 12.23.10 @ 1:02AM

*yawn* Yet another NYT hit piece full of trash, half-truths and taken out of context quotes. *NEXT!...

Osamas Pajamas| 12.23.10 @ 1:32AM

The Democrats have this "enemies list" --- denominated in epithets aimed at the people whose wallets they wish to hijack and take up residence inside. You can be a “Racist!” and you can be a “Homophobe!” and you can be a “Teabagger!” --- a homosexual man taking his partner’s scrotum into his mouth. You can be “Selfish!” and you can be a “Wacko!” and you can be a “Hick!” and you can be a “Rube!” You can be a “Right-wing-nut!” and you can be “Mentally Ill” and you can be a “Warmonger!” and you can be "Unenlightened!" and you can be a “FatCat!” and you can be a “Fascist!” --- although no one more closely approaches the precise description of “Fascist!” than the usual Demo propagandist --- either official, or self-appointed.

So all you have to do to occupy multiple epithets on the Demos’ enemies list is to insist that they take their hands off yourself, off your wallet, off your property, off your kids, off your diet, off your healthcare, off your household appliances, off your car, off your bank account, off your weapons of self-defense, off your liberty, and off your freedom of speech. Insist on all these good things - and that qualifies you to be spat upon by nasty, mean-spirited scum --- by The Friends of All Mankind --- by a gang of lying, thieving, dope-smoking, pill-popping, coke-snorting, sticky-fingered, bloodsxcking, tax-eating, gun-stealing, predatory humanitarian thugs --- by the Democrat party, in other words. No political party in the history of America more profoundly deserves absolute and outright destruction.

Pelligrino| 12.27.10 @ 1:00PM

I am sorry I did not catch this Osamas PJs post prior to Christmas Eve. Fantastic! The best post of the last week! More! More! More!

Thanks OPJ (to shorten your moniker)! Good stuff.

I'm gonna remember that long sentence listing all those things they need to take their hands off.

(It is so true.)

Gracias!

Whitey O'Carr Kennedy Dukakis| 12.23.10 @ 3:26AM

Helllo Purpleguy while I do not have all the time in the world to expound on race relations like you do, I can give my two cents. As a proud Caucasian, my mother divorced my natural father when I was fifteen. She remarried later and when she died, my stepfather managed to abscond with my share of her estate. And for the record, my stepfather is Black! I guess that means he already got his race reparations! So do not try the race shit with me or I will kick your ass to Timbuktu!

Richard Baker| 12.23.10 @ 9:24AM

By the way, in the 1920s, the heyday of the Klan in America, the largest and most active Klan organization was in....Indiana. Jim Crow and the rest were a blot on the body politic but it wasn't just South of the Mason-Dixon Line.

Richard Baker| 12.24.10 @ 12:39PM

huanli11lou:
If it's so Evil then why do you read this site? Aren't you afraid of corrupting yourself?

danshanteal| 12.24.10 @ 3:01PM

Brown v. Board came down in '54. What happened between then and '70? White citizens councils sprang up to avoid school integration, however 'nice' they turned out. Haley calls himself a fat redneck; that should say it all. Two other thoughts: Jimmy Carter didn't lift a finger and the democrats elected him president. Judge Pickering did lift a finger and the Democrats called him a bigot when Bushie #43 wanted to give him a seat on the 5th Circuit. My hat is off only to the judge.

Bill Sundling| 12.25.10 @ 9:50AM

The New York Times deliberately withheld news that the Soviet Union was starving people to death in the Ukraine in the 1930s. I'm sure they didn't mention that Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK at one time. Racism is a weapon only against Republicans or conservatives.

Clay Boggess | 12.27.10 @ 2:53PM

Leave it to the liberal hounds who can't seem to help themselves with the chronic spreading of racial tension even when there is no blood.

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