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Pelosi-Like Republicans
Playing hardball against critics of the “Compromised Tax Bill.”
Before its passage late last night, Republican leadership in the House of Representatives grew nervous Thursday about mounting opposition to what some conservatives were calling the “Compromised Tax Bill.” So nervous in fact that they were considering what one member of the Republican Steering Committee called “Pelosi-like” tactics to force GOP lawmakers into supporting the tax bill.
During a Steering Committee meeting yesterday, according to sources present in the room, Rep. Dave Camp, who was recently selected by the steering committee to be chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, suggested that he would support revoking appointments to his committee of any Republican member who did not vote for the tax plan, which was larded down with earmarks and sweeteners to gain the support of the White House and Democrats in the Senate and House.
Camp’s suggestion, according to sources, was supported by incoming House majority leader Eric Cantor, who also lent support to the notion that appointments to other committees beyond Ways and Means might also be pulled from Republicans who did not support the bill.
“This was not just about Ways and Means,” said a House staffer with knowledge of the meeting. “House Republican leadership is willing to arm-twist just about any member it could on this vote, whether it’s Judiciary or Energy and Commerce.”
Presumed Speaker of the House Rep. John Boehner was less supportive of the idea, simply telling the gathering that Camp’s proposal was something that might have to be considered.
For months, Republicans chastised House Democrat leadership for its lack of transparency and demands that its majority vote lock step with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and the Obama Administration.
“Now that those votes have doomed the Democrats to minority status in the House, and those policies have doomed the Obama presidency, we have the Republican leadership trying to bail both out with a deeply flawed bill,” said a House member. “And worse, they are willing to attack their own membership to help the other side get a win. We haven’t actually led one single day and already we’re managing to screw it up.”
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NVA Patriot| 12.17.10 @ 7:03AM
The key is the Ryan Roadmap. Getting started on that ASAP seems to be the goal.
Either they are going to implement it or the Republicans can be referred to as the WHIGS 2.0.
Getting the tax rates extended for 2 years, sets up a choice in 2012. We re-play Reagan's bold colors game.
Between now and then we have work to do to primary Senate RINOs, re-enforce the new state and local legislators, and start identifying judges to retire and replace.
With state and local legislators in conservative control, we start clipping the wings of public sector union’s pensions - they need 401ks like the rest of us. We end University tenure at public universities, which has turned into a mechanism to ice out conservatives and brainwash our children.
Other readers have more, I'm sure. The goal is to pick 1 or 2 big issues you can fight locally and then 1 or 2 national ones where you are the goto person in your community for opinion and undermine and defeat the illogical left.
Examples: In Loudoun County Virginia it is the Chesapeake Bay Ordinance - environmental wacko seizure of property through restrictive land use laws. At the state level its tax credits for the private school use. Nationally it’s taxes and deficit spending.
We have to continue to step up and fight this monster at every level, strategically targeting the progressive structure enabling them to gain and hold power. Two huge pillars of the structure are Public sector unions (vampires) and the education system (progressive history hiding the devastation of leftist policy). Later we can go after the big ones the 16th and 17th amendments. No more income tax and state legislature selection of Senators so the federal government always has to have state interests in mind, where now they do not.
carnot| 12.17.10 @ 10:46AM
you have to go after the court system! that's where most of the damage has been done the last 60 yrs or so.
kachonka| 12.17.10 @ 11:15AM
The judges won't retire. They need term limits. Some states require them to be voted in. States like Oregon, most of them seat themselves. It is like a musical chair game when a seat opens up. The prosecuters all get in line and run for the chair. First one in it gets the seat. Another issue, why are all the judges ex-prosecuters? Let's see some defense attornies take up some seats.
Richard Bendur| 12.19.10 @ 10:35PM
Wow! Right on! I couldn't have written anything better.
aware| 12.17.10 @ 7:03AM
Worse is yet to come. I can't wait to see some posting here "hold their feet to the fire". That'll be the day.
Politics in 2010 America is just a simple choice of being stabbed in the front by your enemies or stabbed in the back by your "friends", as the nation tumbles down the hill. Cynical? Yes, but anyone not cynical doesn't know what's going on.
I recently got a "survey" from my (Republican) congress-creep wanting me to indicate what "issues" were important to me. After reviewing the usual 10 items I had to write in that ritual suicide for politicians was more important to the nation's survival. It's always encouraging to hear "leaders" ask what to do AFTER they become leaders. Pliable as swamp mud.
Besides, after throwing a largely symbolic "tax cut" bone to the half informed "base" to keep them semi-quiet, the whole bunch will get back to the business of rape and pillage. The only way to escape is to become one of the pillagers.
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 3:15PM
"The only way to escape is to become one of the pillagers."
There is no escaping in your suggestion to join them.
For as it is written:
"..there is no discharge from war, nor will wickedness deliver those who are given to it." Ecc. 8:8.
aware| 12.17.10 @ 4:23PM
I have no desire to become a politician(lack the drive to control) and I make no suggestions other than prepare as an individual and stop putting your confidence in a political machine to fix your problems.
This article is one of those distant early warnings telling you that you are going to be sold out. Insiders still run the show even when Republicans win.
Neh 5:7
7 I pondered them in my mind and then accused the nobles and officials. I told them, "You are exacting usury from your own countrymen!"
Same thing now only different tribe. Power is in the aggrandizement of the holder. I'm just accusing too.
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 5:17PM
aware,
I said nothing about becoming a politician, and I didn't realize that's what you meant when you said to become one of the pillagers.. I took it to mean to become an Anarchist, as you claim that you are, sort of.. or are you still on the fence about it?
The verse still applies though in that you can either give up and say that our government is so corrupt I won't partake any longer.. in voting to elect the best we can, or you stay in and fight the best you can. I see no other choice but to stay in and fight.
aware| 12.17.10 @ 7:38PM
You really ought to get a bead on who's pillaging you. I can tell you know you are being robbed somehow. Don't get upset if I try to point out the perpetrators.
Let me bring you up to speed, the tag has been made and Team Red is about to take over the rape and pillage from Team Blue. Each team's particular targets may be somewhat different, but their general targets are the same.
Whether they are "giving" "tax cuts" or "extending" unemployment "compensation" or just plain handing huge piles of fresh cash to the banking/investment class to play Big Casino in the markets, you and I will be paying not only the principle but the interest for the whole party for the rest of our lives and beyond.
Richard Bendure| 12.19.10 @ 10:47PM
Exquisite! McConell is my Senator. He will hear your words through me.
darcy| 12.20.10 @ 2:31AM
I agree with you, aware. Team Blue and Team Red want the same things, with only slight variations.
This article revealing the threats related to committee slots makes my blood boil. So I'm making a list. Today's entry has Eric Cantor and John Boehner on it -- and I'm citing the infraction: coercion; and the event: the pork-laden tax deal; and the details of the pork.
Next time I see Boehner or Cantor on TV and I hear them yapping some nonsense about how we've heard the voters, I'm going to get my list and remember who they REALLY are.
Richard Baker| 12.17.10 @ 8:06AM
Throw the whole lot out and pass a Constitutional Amendment barring lawyers and professional politicians (that may be redundant) from holding Federal office.
Kris Lepine| 12.17.10 @ 8:42AM
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
owyheewine| 12.17.10 @ 9:45AM
What greater conflict of interest could there be than allowing lawyers to continue to write laws that benefit themselves and their legal brethern?
Thom Burke| 12.17.10 @ 10:52AM
Richard Baker, an amendment to a term limit bill could also include a revocation of their license to practice law for ten years after leaving office. That might have the same effect as barring lawyers from without having that pesky "prior restraint" getting in the way.
Nunya| 12.17.10 @ 12:02PM
We also need an amendment to bar former politicians from becoming lobbyists.
Cris Worth| 12.17.10 @ 8:46AM
This should be no surprise to those who have followed GOP politics for the last 45 years. Since the Goldwater debacle in '64 and briefly under Reagan the Republican Party hierarchy is liberal in the mode of Nelson Rockefeller. Conservatives including Tea Party members have been used as dupes over and over again by the likes of Nixon, Bush I and Bush II before and Cantor, Boehner and McConnell today. Take note from the past election few Republican party heavyweights campaigned for Tea Party candidates and those who did were vilified by the GOP leadership (Palin and DeMint) for instance. It's the same old story a conservative surge puts the Republicans back in power at most levels but the leadership stays the same. Therefore history will repeat itself the GOP politicians will vote like Democrats and the GOP politicians will be voted out of office. Kudos to the Tea Party for trying...they have the right idea-reintroducing Constitutional principles but it wasn't enough.
oldguy| 12.17.10 @ 8:56AM
Rush Limbaugh said it best when he implied the next step would be a third party. Before, third party candidates could only run themselves but the Tea Party showed they can elect congressmen.
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 2:40PM
Actually, Rush is NOT want to go third party:
"My greatest concern about this is that there are -- I don't want to impugn anybody here -- but there's a possibility that this is going to lead to a third-party movement, and that's death. Third-party candidates succeed in one thing, and that is electing their alternatives. John Anderson, 1980, you had Perot in 1992. The temptation here is to go third party 'cause the Republican Party is not responsive. The real question, in my humble opinion, is that this effort and energy needs to be used, as Ronald Reagan did, to take over the Republican Party, to repopulate it and that's exactly what Reagan did, he took it away from the Rockefeller blue-blood country club types starting in 1976, took him 'til 1980 to do it. Goldwater did the same thing. Both Reagan and Goldwater could have gone third party, and there's a temptation here to go third-party, and a lot of people advocating third-party are the personalities that are trying to make this all about them, and that troubles me 'cause this is not about personalities, it's not about any politician, and it isn't about any media person that organized all of this.
Ron Paul is out there trying to take credit for it, by the way. He issued a big press release, but this is grassroots, this is why this kind of energy from the grassroots needs to be harnessed into the existing political apparatus that can actually win if it is built and structured right. That's the Republican Party. Third party can't win. Third party is not going to have any congressional candidates. I just think that the effort here to make this third party -- which is bubbling under the surface, it's not something you hear outright, but it's something I sense that is taking place."
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 2:43PM
Forgot to post that these remarks were said concerning the TEA party and resisting a Third Party.
Tim*| 12.17.10 @ 3:53PM
" Rush Limbaugh Says He and Republicans “Not on the Same Side”
2010 September 15
by Stacy Webber
Today began like any other ordinary day. It was laundry day, and I was making some progress on what my husband calls “Mt. Laundry.” I was listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio and I heard him say something that made my eyes bug out like Buckwheat’s from “The Little Rascals.” He said that the fight over the candidacy of Christine O’Donnell has made him realize that he and the Republican Party “are not on the same side.” He went on to make the even MORE shocking statement that the Republican Party could be replaced by the Tea Party and become the minority party. Oh yes Mama, it is on like Donkey Kong!
Rush Limbaugh- off of the Republican reservation? Hubba-hubba.
Limbaugh went on to explain that the country is on the verge of collapse and socialism, and can not afford another RINO like Olympia Snow. This is potentially devastating to the Republican political machine who has already suffered several defeats by the Tea Party this year.
Say what you will about Rush, and people certainly do, but his political instincts are akin to spidey senses. Rush has never been the Republican water boy as the Left has claimed, but this statement reveals a canyon sized gap that has grown between Republicans and Conservatives.
The days of choosing the lesser of two evils all the way to the gates of hell may be over. No more John McCain or Bob Dole for President…imagine the possibilities. I’m going to have to say “Ditto” Rush."
Where can I buy a Tea Party button?"
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 4:13PM
Rush has always been a CONSERVATIVE Republican, as everyone knows, duh.
The Leftists have ALWAYS tried to peg him as being a "water carrier for the Repub. party." Nothing new, there, bub.
However, Rush's own comments still stand. And you can try and claim him, as you do Ronald Reagan~ to your Ron Paul faction of the TEA party, but to no avail.
Did you see what he said, about R, Paul above, or are you still too busy trying to deny reality, Timmy*?
aware| 12.17.10 @ 4:38PM
If you think Paul has not played a part then it is you who is denying reality. Can hardly wait to see The Bernack explaining himself in front of the Monetary Policy Subcommittee with Paul as chairman. The only promising development from the election.
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 5:11PM
The same Ron Paul who blames America for the terrorists being terrorists?
Feh!
Tim*| 12.17.10 @ 6:53PM
Rush Limbaugh:
"They say Rand Paul is a kook and a creep and all this, so you buy it. Too many people are still prisoners to what I call the media masters or the Drive-By State-Controlled Media, the partisan political operatives disguised in media, Fake Media, whatever you want to call 'em. I admire the Tea Party in many ways. We for the longest time have been denouncing Republicans-in-name-only. We have been saying that you're not doing us any good. Just because you're Republican doesn't mean that you're any better than the average Democrat.
This has inspired people to run for office who are not professional candidates, they're not professional political people, but they love the country, and they're willing to risk the loss of privacy and all of the media anal exams they get to put into action the things they believe. They come along and they run for office and people start running them down, particularly on the Republican side and the media. I think a lot of it is simply due to the fact that they'll tell us who they fear. It's just as simple as that. Their attitude is, what good is electing a Republican who is gonna end up being a McCain? What good is it? It doesn't make any difference, in fact, it's harmful, and we don't need any more of that. This is a crossroads moment in time for the country as far as the Tea Party people are concerned. This is it. It's not Romper Room, it's not playground, it's not politics as usual. And that's how I would answer your question. "
Tim*| 12.17.10 @ 7:06PM
RUSH LIMBAUGH: "Well, folks, I'm starting to feel a little sorry for these Republicans. They're accepting these invitations to go on butt boy news shows, and the latest example is poor old Ron Paul. You know, I love Ron Paul. I didn't think he was presidential material, but Ron Paul is a guy that stands for freedom. Ron Paul just got through being harassed by David Shuster."
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 7:23PM
The same Ron Paul who blames America for the terrorists being terrorists?
Feh!
Clint| 12.17.10 @ 7:10PM
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 7:23PM
The same Ron Paul who blames America for the terrorists being terrorists?
Feh!
Clint's Brother Spike| 12.17.10 @ 7:41PM
We've around this ad nauseum Israel Firster propagandist Victor-Margie.
" Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World – because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”
Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 9:00PM
Well now, Timmy*, that says it all.
Feh!
darcy| 12.20.10 @ 2:45AM
Sorry Margie. Your quote from Rush is dated.
He says now that he is no longer carrying water for the Republicans as he once did. He's on to them.
I quit listening to him earlier this year when he said one day that we have to support Republicans because that's all we've got. I was totally disgusted and turned it off, for months, I was so angry. And the reason is because AS LONG AS THE REPUBS KNOW WE HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO THEY WILL ALWAYS BE RINOS.
Then about ten weeks ago I started listening to him again and he had changed his tune. He is unreservedly now a conservative, and while he doesn't promote a third party, he sure as heck knows something stinks in the land of Republican-ville. I can listen to him again now because he FINALLY gets it. But if he goes wobbly on me again, I might not give him another chance.
The Tea Party delivered a magnificently fought victory to RINOs who will use it to their own ends and to hell with the Tea Party, for all they care.
But you just wait. We're not done with the RINOs -- they're going to be run out of town. You mark my words.
Clint| 12.17.10 @ 9:03AM
We Tea Party Patriots are in Open Rebellion.
If The GOP Ruling Elite Fops want War, let it be here & now.
This is more " Lesser Evil ", TARP, Too Big To Fail, Status Quo GOP RINO-CINO Ruling Class Crap.
"The big print giveth, and the fine print taketh away."
Fulton J. Sheen
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 4:15PM
Moderator alert! Psst, authors: Why are you allowing Tim* to post under many screen names when you require some of us to "behave" under threat of banishment?
Double standard!
Hypocrisy!
Tim*| 12.17.10 @ 7:02PM
Uh Oh ! Israel Firster Neocon Agendist Victor-Margie wants AS to be Her Fascist Censor and Silence Tea Party Rebels.
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 7:16PM
I believe you were warned about the name calling, Tim*.
Double standard!
Hypocrisy!
Tim*| 12.17.10 @ 7:32PM
Talk to James, Israel Firster Agendist Victor-Margie.
Nick| 12.17.10 @ 7:48PM
How long before mutiple personality disorder afflicted CINO Tim* starts posting praises of himself, under the names of Ken (Old Texican) and Occam's Tool?
My guess? Not long.
Tim*| 12.17.10 @ 8:10PM
How long have You Odd Nicky , been A Smacked Rump ?
I told ya before Moronic Creepy CINO Dude, have the stones to ask Ken and Tool Job yourself ,who posted those posts.
Now Shove Off Israel Firster AgendaBoy.
Tim*| 12.17.10 @ 8:26PM
I see skip already straightened you out back in yesterday's Antsy Liberalism Thread.
Give Me My $1000.00 Deadbeat.
"skip| 12.17.10 @ 5:12AM
My 5:06am post was before I read any further down the page. Tim* / skip
Reply to this
skip| 12.17.10 @ 5:15AM
are one and the same? Cool! Who the (one more retard) is Nick? And what just happened computerwise to post on the page in mid-type?"
Some of You Israel Firsters Agendists are very obsessed & spooky.
Nick| 12.17.10 @ 11:47PM
You are deranged, CINO Tim*.
Margie| 12.19.10 @ 12:01PM
Forget it, Nick~ it's like water off a duck's back. This scumbag doesn't care. He's got one agenda, his own, and that's it. While he goes around accusing everyone else of having one.
He's a psycho.
Margie| 12.17.10 @ 9:07PM
Nick,
He's already posted in my name and for months. His pals here, I guess Antle if what Tim* is telling us is true, allows his fellow Paul-bot anti-semites here. They banned me but another friendly editor "allowed" me back, "conditionally" of course. Why? Because I "name-called" Timmy*!
Yes, the foul mouthed, hate filled Tim* gets to prowl around spewing his vile mouth (and under many names), but if I call him what he is, I will be banned.
Hypocrisy!
Double standard!
Tim*| 12.17.10 @ 10:06PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz !
Margie| 12.18.10 @ 11:27AM
Right, zzzzz.. because you know you're protected, eh?
But you're a coward and a liar, whom God sees.
Lotsa luck!
Tim*| 12.19.10 @ 10:32AM
Zzzzzzzzzzz !
Nick| 12.17.10 @ 11:42PM
Margie,
I'm sorry I missed that.
I would have stuck up for you.
I thought AmSpec was a free speech zone, because of all the profanity. The only posts I've seen them remove were the anti-Semitic tomes of Daphne Kenward, the kook. Although, one of CINO Tim*'s posts did disappear the other day when I confronted him.
Name calling and insults go hand in hand here, like Fred and Ginger, and Lester and Earl.
CINO Tim*, you truly are a little, little man. Are you going to tell on me, too, tattle-tail?
Quick, go tell your mommy!
Tim*| 12.18.10 @ 7:35AM
I didn't tell anybody on anyone Israel Firster Liar CINO Nicky.
You got a bad of bein' a Slandering Liar,Twerp.
Get Lost Creepy Dude.
Nick| 12.18.10 @ 4:48PM
I'm not going anywhere, CINO Tim*.
Tim*| 12.19.10 @ 10:36AM
You're Goin' Nuts.
Margie| 12.18.10 @ 11:25AM
Nick,
I've had posts removed in the past, but this was the banning of my IP. By editors and "moderators". It all happened in one day so you wouldn't have noticed anyway. I didn't say Tim* "told on me" just to set that straight.
And I do not want anyone banned, as he tries to accuse me of when he says I'm a Fascist, blah, blah, blah.
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy on who ever's part it is to ban me, yet let this vile creature (and that IS what he is) continue to post his filth. He lies, accuses, and posts using my name and other's names in order to try and ruin reputations.
If my posts calling him what he is in truth should be banned, why is it that he's still around?
If the so-called moderators have a problem with supposed name calling...?
Tim*| 12.19.10 @ 10:37AM
Zzzzzzzzz !
Margie| 12.19.10 @ 11:58AM
The political ideology of you and your sick pals trumps the Truth.
You have a Paul-bot editor and some others here backing you here.
Interesting that the freedom of speech is promoted for some, but not others who may disagree.
It isn't about the name calling with me that he banned me. If that were the case, YOU would be permitted to continue here. My supposed name calling is telling you your a blatant liar, deceiver and slanderer. It is the truth.
No, it's not about my name calling~ it's about my disagreeing with your political ideology.
Haven't you said you're an Anarcho-Capitalist? Hmm? And you are anti-Israel. You are also anti-Christian and anti-God. You puke all over His words anytime they are presented.
Jesus is coming back soon. You won't go unpunished. He says liars go to Hell.
I happen to believe Him.
Till then, zzzzzz on!
Tim*| 12.19.10 @ 12:33PM
You're A Slandering Liar Israel Firster Victor-Margie.
America First Trumps Sand Monkey Saudis, Palestinians, Israelis, Iraqis, etc. and Foreign Nation Agendists like You, RINO-CINO Israel Firster .Victor-Margie
Zzzzzzzzzz !
Margie| 12.19.10 @ 1:01PM
I'm an America-Firster, loser.
That means I back Israel, our ally, along with all other true conservatives.
zzzzzzzz!
Tim*| 12.19.10 @ 1:14PM
"Ben-ami Kadish was employed as a mechanical engineer by the United States Army Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center at the Picatinny Arsenal in Dover, New Jersey from October 1963 to January 1990. Kadish conspired to disclose national defense-related documents to Israel and worked as agent of the Israeli government from 1979 to 1985. Kadish took classified documents to his handler's home in Riverdale, Bronx several times (including information about nuclear weapons, a modified F-15 fighter, and the Patriot missiles) and let an unnamed Israeli government worker take photographs of them.
Yosef Yagur, Kadish's Israeli handler,along with his Israeli Embassy counterpart Ilan Ravid, were recalled by Israel in November 1985. Neither returned to the United States. Civilian intelligence analyst Jonathan Pollard was also charged and convicted on espionage charges associated with Yagur.
Kadish was charged with four counts: one count of conspiring to disclose documents related to the national defense of the United States to the Government of Israel; one count of conspiring to act as an agent of the Government of Israel; one count of conspiring to hinder a communication to a law enforcement officer; and one count of conspiring to make a materially false statement to a law enforcement officer."
Margie| 12.19.10 @ 1:24PM
As a matter of fact, Tim* I will no longer address you here.
I realize I have been a fool in insinuating that Mr. Antle (James) had anything to do with banning me temporarily that day.
Why?
Because YOU insinuated it yourself when you kept saying, "Talk to James."
But you are a known liar. I shouldn't have fell for it.
The truth is that I have no idea who did it, and it was remedied almost instantaneously.
So, I hereby retract any and ALL insinuations of Mr. Antle having anything to do with it.
Toodleoo, bubs.
Tim*| 12.19.10 @ 1:35PM
You're A Chronic Serial Slandering Liar.
I insinuated nothin'. James is The AS Online Editor.
You're an obsessed buffoon.
Now, shove off Israel Firster RINO-CINO Victor-Margie.
xRedCoat| 12.17.10 @ 9:10AM
It sounds like the old Republican guard are at it again. Lest they forget, we made a statement on Nov 2nd!
Many "Reborn Conservatives" flooded the phones yesterday to encourage the Lame Brains to kill the porkstimulus and handed King Reid a major blow.
This is a new era in politics and the establishment politicians on both sides are starting to get the message. If you don't tow the line and WILL OF THE PEOPLE (read: their constituency) they'll follow Castle and the rest of the RINO's in 2012. Tea Party Patriots are making it their mission to purge Capitol Hill of the establishment cronies. It may take a few election cycles, but we will succeed. We'll knock off one Republican "Golden Boy" in the early 2012 primaries and our message will be loud and clear. It will be worth the sacrifice.
Eric Cartman| 12.17.10 @ 9:42AM
The problem with the analogy is that Pelosi has the balls and Mafia slyness to pull it off. Republicans are the Wiley E. Coyotes of politics. They never realize that the tunnel is PAINTED on the side of the mountain until it's to late or that their Acme Batman Costume is on fire. They are pathetic when they try this and unlike the Rats, we care. Putzes.
carnot| 12.17.10 @ 10:10AM
the best part? Congressman Cantor's home page describes himself as a "conservative". Luckily...he lives in VA. If the FATWA against deficit hawks proves true...I personally (as a Virginian) plan to contribute resources and volunteer time to support whatever candidate runs against him in his next election.
gazinya| 12.17.10 @ 10:24AM
What is disturbing to me is that there are those who called tea party candidates 'stupid, insiped, uninformed and unelectable'. People like Krauthammer, Rove, O'Reilly, et. al.. These are the one now crying fowl when the RINOs are at it again. We must keep the faith and not give in to cynicism. That will be our test. Live Free or Die!
Petronius| 12.17.10 @ 10:27AM
Same old same old:
Republicans can be as gutsy as the street trash Democrats when carving up their own but never against Our adversaries on the other side of the aisle.
We are aware that they don't know how to fight. They refuse to believe that their positions are the only thing to fight for. Ask any RINO. He'll tell you. Unless Boehner and Co. want to experience a night of the long knives on their watch, they'd better get Us back Our Freedom.
Jim| 12.17.10 @ 10:44AM
I have no love for either of these two corrupt parties.. The rumor is that the Republicans have already sold out on the Dream Act.
ripped conservative| 12.17.10 @ 11:19AM
It is not a rumor. It is the main reason obama went along with the tax bill. Tit for tat. The Dream Act will pass on Christmas Eve. The republicans sold out Americans for tax cuts to the wealthy and heir/estate taxes to the middle class. Now the democrats will have a bigger voting base in 2012 to screw the T.E.A. Party candidates.
RCV| 12.19.10 @ 10:37PM
So much for the rumor.
Al Adab| 12.17.10 @ 10:49AM
Here once again we see the problem with the Republican Party. After the GOP failed in 1994 and again in 2000 to stop the bleeding we had hope they would understand the voters. They did not. It is only when the Conservative Movement is ascendant that the GOP enjoys success. This time the stakes are too high. Our messsage must be clear, DO NOT FAIL US AGAIN.
doozey| 12.17.10 @ 11:21AM
We have 2 years nationwide to plan for and fund a 3rd party. Get with it in your district. Start taking up local seats, start informing people. A percentage of the conservative voting base do not have internet in my area so we have to go word of mouth and use lots of printer ink to get the word out to dispute the liberal media. Get going.
Bostonian| 12.17.10 @ 11:24AM
Conservatives WANTED the Bush tax cuts to be extended, and with a few bones thrown to the Democrats they have been. With Obama president, conservatives are NOT going to get 100% of what they want.
Liberals are very unhappy with this deal. Doesn't that tell you something?
Nunya| 12.17.10 @ 12:07PM
No, it doesn't. It's more "reaching across the aisle" BS that we've been stuck with in the past. There are some things that one should not compromise on, no matter what.
Al Adab| 12.17.10 @ 12:21PM
Would it not make more sense to have a simple up or down vote on setting tax rates, for say the next five years, without the bill being smothered in earmarks, projects, amendments and other non-germain riders? Doen't the citizenry deserve clear votes on single issues?
Cris Worth| 12.17.10 @ 2:24PM
It's a process of net change. No one is receiving an additional tax cut/the same tax policy stays in place for two years but more entitlement spending is coming hence more debt...advantage to the left. Like the Cuban Missile crisis from long ago...before the Soviets had no missiles in Cuba but we had them in Turkey after the Soviets had no missiles in Cuba and we had no missiles in Turkey...advantage to the left. Throughout my lifetime the right compromises and the left wins.
RCV| 12.17.10 @ 12:04PM
Gee, I thought it might take until next year when the TAS crowd got disillusioned with their high expectations. Get used to it: more to come.
Al Adab| 12.17.10 @ 2:20PM
RCV,
You must not have been paying attention. How many accomodationist Republicans were pruned during the primaries this year even at the cost of GOP control of the seat? That old man is the point. Rid ourselves of these troublesome chameleons.
RCV| 12.17.10 @ 4:07PM
It's the expectations that are unrealistic, just as the disappointments of those on the left with Obama's tax deal are. The process in Washington will make accomodation inevitable. One party controls the WH and the Senate; the other the House. In both the Reagan and Clinton years, that sort of division produced the best work Congress has done in decades. I predict the same will happen in the next two years. Unless you understand that, you will be expecting things that will not, and indeed cannot, happen.
Al Adab| 12.17.10 @ 4:28PM
Again we are debating different issues. Our point is simply to rid the GOP of its accomodationist wing (Rockefeller, Moderate, Liberal, RINO, call it whatever) so that the Conservative Movement can regain it's ascendency in the party. Barring that result there is little point in keeping the GOP as the selected vehicle of the Movement. It is not about winning or how many seats we control, it is about Constitutional adherence. If, like Cato, we die rather than submit so be it.
RCV| 12.18.10 @ 12:38PM
As an aside, I read a funny line from Bob Hope, GRHS, this morning.
"A political party can't fool all the people all the time. That's why we have two parties."
Nick| 12.18.10 @ 3:43PM
RCV,
Have you ever seen this classic Bob Hope clip?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4
PattyMor| 12.17.10 @ 3:51PM
The question seems to be: reform the RepubuRats or form a third party? Rush says no.
If the government crashes, then I say, lets go the third party route. The Repuburats will have failed us for 70 years. The socialism must stop in order to really fix the problems. The maxim should be: no work, no eat. Just save the kids; but throw the worthless adults to the world and their own sordid baseness.
Expel "The Ruling Class"!| 12.17.10 @ 3:54PM
Amazing how The Stupid Party "leadership" grow a set when it comes time to get others less inclined in The Stupid Party to capitulate & help them & the RINOs cross the aisle & sign onto more bad legislation. The Stupid Party "leadership" are in bed with the Democrats & don't give a damn about the American people. Nothing has changed. It's still the same old stale rubbish. Eric Cartman nailed them precisely. They are a bunch of Wile E. Coyotes masquerading as "conservative" Republicans & I'm not voting for them & their ACME governing kits anymore. Someone please push them off the cliff & drop some T.N.T. on 'em. That's all folks! I've had enough of The Stupid Party!
Oldefarte| 12.17.10 @ 3:55PM
The problem has been/is that the taxpaying-voting public has historically drifted between the political parties, and voted for candidates for superflous reasons [speaking ability, personal attractiveness, skin color,etc] instead of professional abilities. For example, the California morons voted against the professionally qualified Whitman when that state is now facing a $28 billion defecit. This country needs to be run/administered by business oriented/expertised politicians, not those possessing similar qualities of a drunken sailor with a stolen credit card. Professionally qualified political leaders would then be able to compromise between mildly differing solutions toward producing economically workable solution to the nation's problems [instead of from the group of morons and misfits that the public has given governmental power to typically]. If the taxpayer-voters of this country don't eventually get their collective heads out of their arses when voting for political candidates, then this country will soon resemble Thelma and Louise inside their T-Bird heading off of the economic cliff to their eventual destruction!!!!
james| 12.17.10 @ 6:30PM
Yeats:
The best lack all conviction and the worst
are full of passionate intensity.
The democratic communist party will win because republicans want to be liked by them.
vip2020 | 12.19.10 @ 5:55AM
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Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 12.19.10 @ 10:12AM
What has become obvious is that both parties realize this may be their last opportunity to plunder the Treasury for awhile.
You must remember that earmarks become recycled bribes, i.e., Member throws earmarked money to group, that group then uses the tax money to pay off members. It's a real scam and it's been going on for a hundred years.
If the Republicans fall into the hopelessness of their own greed, then they are doomed, but more importantly the country may be doomed.
RRA| 12.20.10 @ 12:31AM
Thank you Tea Party for sweating blood and tears, and donating a ton of money, to a Party that just threw your servant butts under the train. And what y'all do about it? Nothing, absolutely nothing.
What's it like to fee like a female dog?
BHO - If? They will. It's happened before with both parties, and it'll happen again. GOP obviously didn't learn or take anything to heart from the Dubya Presidency.
The funny irony is, the final triumph of Big Government is all thanks to you folks, the NeoCons, the Dubya Republicans, whatever the label. Ron Paul was right, you know.
darcy| 12.20.10 @ 3:02AM
Him who speak without knowledge make fool of self, RRA.
RRA| 12.20.10 @ 10:04AM
Darcy - Unrequited allegiance sucks, huh?
peaches1| 12.21.10 @ 12:43AM
We didn't vote for this.
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