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Special Report
Wasting Away in Margaritaville
They called a global climate summit but nobody came (except Ted Turner).
They called a global climate summit but nobody came.
Actually, a few people did show up for the UN climate change conference in Cancún. To be precise, there were about 15,000 delegates from 194 countries. But no one of any importance bothered to come — no leaders from the free or the un-free world. It was left to the totally daft Ted (“I’m not chased by demons”) Turner to try to keep everyone from falling fast asleep and forgetting all about global warming.
Thank god for small fiascoes. They are so much better than the big ones.
What a difference a year makes.
At this time last year, the lunatics were in full command of the asylum. Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and a supporting cast of thousands were jetting off to Copenhagen to swear their undying allegiance to the idea that it is necessary to save the planet from the scourge of human life. That would be human life, most particularly, as it is lived here in the United States and other parts of the world that have not yet gotten around to pulling the plug on capitalism and moving on to a more enlightened way of organizing production and redistributing material wealth.
“Climate change is a religion for them, so there was no way they were going to miss this,” said one GOP aide of the huge contingent of Democratic representatives and senators who boarded Air Force and commercial jets for Copenhagen. “This is their Hajj.”
Never mind that the “Climategate” scandal had only recently exposed how climate scientists working for the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had conspired to quash evidence contrary to the theory of man-made global warming. Paying no attention to that, Obama began his speech to the UN Climate Summit Conference in Copenhagen with these words:
Good morning. It is an honor for me to join this distinguished group of leaders from nations around the world. We come here in Copenhagen because climate change poses a grave a growing danger to our people. All of you would not be here unless you — like me — were convinced that this danger is real. It is not fiction, it is science. Unchecked, climate change will pose unacceptable risks to our security, our economies, and our planet….
That’s why I come here today — not to talk, but to act.
Well, actually, nothing came of the Copenhagen conference. There was no global climate deal. But so what? The point is, the president rubbed shoulders with just about all of world’s leaders at the Copenhagen conference — everyone from Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao to Indian premier Manmohan Singh, Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy. From Copenhagen Obama flew on to Oslo to collect the Nobel Peace Prize and give another speech filled with intimations of his own omniscience.
That was COP-15, as the Copenhagen conference is called in UN lingo. It was the 15th annual Council of Parties since COP-1, the Berlin Climate Summit held in 1995.
Heads of state are conspicuous by the absence from COP-16, as the Cancún confab is called. No fewer than 119 heads of state signed up for Copenhagen. Even Robert Mugabe, the deranged president of Zimbabwe, felt compelled to put in an appearance. As far as I can tell from COP-16’s blog site, Mexican President Felipe Calderón, was the only head of state in attendance this year. Nor did any leading U.S. Democrats come down to soak up the sun or to add some much needed spice to the warmed-over warnings of global warming being served to the participants. Even alarmist-in-chief Al Gore was a no-show.
Calderón did not help the cause by giving a thuddingly boring opening address. Calling on negotiators in Cancún to make progress in the interest of their children and grandchildren, he said that the “eyes of the world” were focused on the meeting. In an audience composed of mid-level UN officials and apparatchiks like Jane Davidson, the Welsh environmental minister, I doubt that there was a single soul who didn’t know full well that the eyes of the world were glazed over at the thought of one more global warming summit.
Thus it was left to always surprising Ted Turner — author of the autobiography Call Me Joe — to try to inject some life into the conference. Turner, a longtime supporter of the president, said that Obama had made “a big mistake” by ramming through Obamacare rather than cap-and-trade. As he put it in his inimitable way, “If we don’t stop global warming, we’ll be extinct, and then we’ll be really sorry.”
And this raises a further subject for honest wonderment. What a difference a year has made in the life of our 44th president.
A year ago, he was flying over to Europe to give speeches and accept a Nobel Prize. Today he is sulking in his tent and lashing out at critics both left and right. He even claims that he is the victim of a “hostage” situation. He is upset that the Republicans seem to have hijacked the bus carrying the clear majority of the American people and are using that to make outrageous demands. Pobre hombre! It seems that he has come face-to-face with the realization that he really doesn’t know what he’s supposed to be doing as the leader of the United States and the free world.
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Appleby| 12.10.10 @ 6:33AM
It doesnt help that Cancun is (1) in Mexico and (2) suffering from a cold snap. God does have a sense of humour.
Patrick| 12.10.10 @ 3:09PM
And to top it off, many of the attendees were duped into signing a petition to ban dihydrogen-monoxide.
Kishego| 12.10.10 @ 3:24PM
What a riot, I couldn't stop laughing at the tools signing that petition while drinking a cool glass of dihydrogen-monoxide. Usefull idiots do abound.
Only Republican at Woodstock| 12.11.10 @ 12:35AM
Really, Patrick - if you have a url to a news story about the chicken littles in Cancun signing a petition to ban my cat's second favorite beverage (cream is #1 on his list) please post. I would love to send that info to my enviro friends. But I know they would never believe such an outrageous statement without proof. Blind faith is reserved for Al Gore pronouncements.
Patrick| 12.11.10 @ 6:52PM
I saw it around a week ago at http://wattsupwiththat.com/ and it includes a video of a similar stunt by Penn and Teller, where they dupe hundreds of people at an eco-protest event.
Essentially, tell your friends about the evils of dihydrogen monoxide. For instance:
It is a chemical used in nearly all dirty industry. It is used as an industrial solvent, machining coolant, and is expelled during the burning of fossil fuels. It is a corrosive chemical, known to rust steel, and can accelerate the decay of buildings, bridges, and destroys expensive electronics. It is used extensively in nuclear reactors throughout the world. Worst of all, it is used in the most dangerous pesticides, and it actually gets absorbed by the plant, so even washing fruits and vegetables doesn't help.
Much like methane has been reported, dihydrogen-monoxide is far more active as a greenhouse gas than carbon-dioxide. Not only that, but there is solid evidence that it plays a critical role in the increase of extreme weather phenomena.
It is colorless, tasteless, and odorless. More than two people every minute die from dihydrogen-monoxide inhalation. Exposure to this chemical can cause excess sweating, urination, and in some cases vomiting. Toxic levels of dihydrogen-monoxide cause swelling of the brain, irregular heartbeat, and fluid in the lungs. This is particularly dangerous for infants.
It is frequently found in cancerous tumors, and yet neither the EPA or the FDA has done anything to stop this substance. There is no known way to remove it from our nations' water supply at this moment.
This substance has found its way into the air we breathe and the food we eat. Please help us ban this toxic chemical.
William| 12.13.10 @ 11:03PM
Patrick, don't joke about the dihydrogen-monoxide. There are new EPA regs related to cooling towers that you see in industrial facilities, hospitals, schools and any number of other commercial buildings.
Demisters are soon to be required to be installed on cooling towers to reduce the amount of moisture expelled into the atmosphere. Not joking here.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 9:17PM
Are you serious? Ha! Wait a minute. Algore must be down there then. Cold weather follows him everywhere.
Occam's Tool| 12.10.10 @ 10:02PM
I always worry about people who insist that"the science is settled," because it so rarely is, outside of mythbusters, which mostly studies things that blow up.
It would have been better if Obama had said "it's not science---it's science fiction."
DaveS| 12.11.10 @ 8:37AM
I need a reasonable man like Appleby (as he is represented in this preliminary post) to call my South Central COB of a large utility to ask him to come back from Cancun and start acting like a honest man again on the subject of 'global warming' - oops - 'climate change.'
beebop| 12.10.10 @ 6:39AM
Cancun? Hardly the sort of adventure our pathetic pratfall president would bother firing up AF-1 for.
Patrick| 12.10.10 @ 3:10PM
Yeah, wrong president. Bubba would have been there in his day, and hosted in March....
Kishego| 12.10.10 @ 3:27PM
Unless of course, he's running down to mexico city to spread the H1N1 virus, lol.
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 12.10.10 @ 7:34AM
Ted Turner said, "If we don't stop global warming, we'll be extinct, and then we'll be really sorry."
Um, what? No Ted, we will not be sorry after we become extinct, because we'll be, wait for it,.... EXTINCT!! Maybe that last human left on Earth, after everybody else has died might be sorry, that is until he dies too, and then he won't be sorry anymore.
What a douche-bag Ted is, has been, and always will be!! What a truly despicable, vile, hypocritical piece of crap this man is!! He deserved to be married to that Traitor Jane Fonda, and I hope she still calls him up everyday, to complain about this and that, and to share her feelings with him, and that it makes him want to rip what remaining hair he has left out!!
Hey Ted, you want to know about real Global Warming? Well then just wait until you're dead (or shall I say extinct?), and then you'll know all about it when you find yourself condemned to Hell, chained forever next to Ted Kennedy ( I can dream, can't I?), then you'll know what hot really means. Satan would have to give them a very big room though, just to fit their bloated egos in there, but I'm sure he'll have a good time torturing these two frauds. And to make it even worse for him, I hope Jane gets to call him everyday, even in the afterlife!! Now that's real torture!!
Tom Anderson| 12.10.10 @ 12:07PM
I am glad to see that you've been able to muster some restraint here.
Stormzeye| 12.10.10 @ 3:25PM
That cozy little vignette in Hell would be perfect with Jane leading the two Teds in an aerobics class for all eternity while being forced to listen to an endless tape loop of Al Bore speeches.
Bob K.| 12.10.10 @ 8:15AM
Al Gore wasn't there?! Maybe he was snowed in in Tennessee.
Brian Mc| 12.10.10 @ 8:18AM
"It is not fiction, it is sciense..."
Please recall that this has spewed from the lips of one of the smartest amongst us; who cares more than we will ever know. He may want to check his dictionary in the future, or was he just making an attempt to bolster a notion, all along feeling that he was reinforcing a fact. If he knows he's wrong, then the impeachment process is overdue, but if he does not know he is wrong, then, the impeachment process is overdue.
Clinton Lovell| 12.10.10 @ 9:16AM
"The days of using natural resources to further human development and prosperity that is not controlled by the progressive movement for those goals that only the truly wise progressive leaders can see are going to end. You have seen what we have accomplished in Cuba; reductions in automobiles and industrial output have returned the Cuban people to an existence that is more compatible with Mother Earth and if you ask the ones who are allowed to speak out, they will tell you that their per capita income is the least of their concerns. These people get it.
You saw what we did with a mineral rich country like Venezuela. Our work has dramatically reduced the load on their energy grid to a manageable level and the people are only using the electricity they really need and can afford to borrow from the developing world. If you ask them, the ones who are allowed to speak will tell you that they are stronger for having made do with much less so that people in capitalist countries can enjoy real energy security. They are now so close to Mother Nature that many of them have elected to take that final step of commitment and just live outdoors all year round and rid themselves of the necessity of clothing, jobs and homes - none of which were making them better servants of the progressive movement anyway. Our next goal of moving them all into a progressive labor force for real change will demonstrate to the world what can be done when a small elite group of rulers controls the wealth and assets of a country for their own ends. Nobody is denying us the right to ration these resources so that future generations can live a life that we plan for them.
Prosperity is a state of mind. Wealth is not the same as happiness. Less can be more and the Earth is more important than whether you have a meal tonight. Only the truly wise amongst us can foretell what the future holds and we should allow them to dictate who controls our wealth so that everyone who needs it will have it when the time comes to share in it."
Comrade General-Secretary & President For Life, Barack Hussein Obama 2018 One World Proclamation
MoeBlotz| 12.10.10 @ 9:51AM
Is Lovell really booger?
David C| 12.10.10 @ 10:49AM
Let's hope so, this site is really boring without him....Booger's posts are the most entertaining and hard-hitting comments here.
As much as the left would like to change our habits and reduce our human footprint in the USA, China is using oil and coal as fast as they can find it and burn it, and exploring anywhere they like. Guess they did not get the memo.
The internet is the bane of the left. There are too many people bypassing the left’s rhetoric and impacting opinion with different “facts” on thousands of sites.
It is over for the left for this type of green crap.
Ted Turner| 12.10.10 @ 9:26AM
CAPTAIN PLANET!!!
Mike D.| 12.10.10 @ 9:44AM
I can't wait to see what this merry band of utopian
Marxists/Socialists come up with to replace this fraud. This movement was the big one they had been waiting for. The one world collectivist empire ruled by "those who care" under the banner of saving the planet from the evil capitalists. They damn near pulled it off capped by Gore's Nobel Peace prize, the annual leftist achievement award. Maybe its back to global cooling and we should take classes from eskimos in igloo building. Its only proper that witless dolt Ted Turner takes over the movement and rides the rest of this scam right off the bridge and into the gorge. Heres one you clowns could use. How about: If we don't redistribute the worlds population, the weight imbalance will adversly effect the movement of the earths techtonic plates and doom is right around the corner. If this isn't corrected by................well you all know the rest!
MikeD| 12.10.10 @ 11:23AM
Mike D.! Great to have you back! My life is so much easier when you post; you say things very well and lots of people think it's me! And I don't have to do a thing. Keep it up!
Even though I am a true right wing fanatic former Vietnam era 'baby burner, etc... (I wanted to pre-empt brooks and the rest of the mental midgets.) I did actually do some serious climate research in my post grad fellowship at Berkeley, of all places; before the inmates took over the asylum. Even though the libs do all they can to avoid facts, the truth is that all our climatic cycles are caused by solar periods and we can't do a thing about it. But, these expense account jerks just HAVE to go pi$$ away taxpayers money so they can justify their existence to idiots like Mr. Brooks who really, really do believe the sky is falling! Abe Lincoln said it best: "You can fool all the people...etc.)
Our collective task for the day is to pi$$ off a lib by saying MERRY CHRISTMAS! Stay safe y'all.
Reagan Loyalist| 12.10.10 @ 3:18PM
Our collective task for the day is to pi$$ off a lib by saying MERRY CHRISTMAS!" Ha ha!! This has been a seasonal exercise for years and one that is filled with true joy. If you aren't engaging in it, try it, you'll like it!
David W| 12.10.10 @ 11:29AM
Shows what you know. The wind blowing against the wind turbines out in the Texas prairies will push so hard that that part of the world will begin to spin faster (or try). The resulting forces will tear our world apart, way long before the population imbalance will cause any problems (Ok, so Guam is about to flip over due to the increased population on the island, but that is an isolated instance only). Our only hope is to have a line of Gore/Kerry/Turner/Buffet/Pelosi/rest of mental pygmies) to spew hot air in the opposite direction. That is our only hope.
MikeD| 12.10.10 @ 11:33AM
David; You have made me feel better already!
skip| 12.10.10 @ 1:20PM
People!
Space dust!
100 million tons of space dust fall on the planet each and every day!
Manmade global warming will never have a chance to destroy us. We will be long buried!
Wake up!
We need global umbrella shields now!
Our only hope is the messiah-in-chief is distracting everyone with global warming, quietly diverting all NASA's resources into, and hoarding the stimulus money for, the space umbrella protection program.
Occam's Tool| 12.10.10 @ 10:04PM
Wasn't "Space Junk" a song by Devo?
skip| 12.11.10 @ 12:10AM
I cannot tell you how happy and relieved I am I do not know the answer to that.
Occam's Tool| 12.11.10 @ 10:10PM
Dear Skip: RCV is right on this one: Space Junk is indeed by DEVO. Review the lyrics, and see why this is an appropriate song to consider Ted Turner by:
Lyrics to Space Junk :
"she was walking all alone
down the street in the alley
her name was Sally
I never touched her
she never saw it
when she was hit by space junk
in New York Miami Beach
heavy metal fell in Cuba
Angola Saudi Arabia
on Xmas Eve said NORAD
a Soviet sputnik hit Africa
India Venezuela
Texas
Kansas
it's falling fast Peru too
it keeps coming
and now i'm mad about space junk
i'm all burned out about
spacejunk
oooh walk & talk about space junk
it smashed my baby's head
and now my Sally's dead "
The same disconnection from logic and reason, which was kind of DEVO's point here. Personally, when I consider our POTUS, I think of "Mongoloid" as the most appropriate theme, but that's just me.
I found DEVO great background music to study organic chemistry to, when in college. No good for Suetonius or Tacitus, though.
victor| 12.11.10 @ 1:04AM
In the immortal words of Art Baker:
You Asked For It!
Two for the Price of One!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMVqVXDUdaU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fy7psIuJjc
RCV| 12.11.10 @ 4:58PM
...it smashed my baby's head,
and now my Sally's dead.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 9:25PM
Oh no. No, no, no, no, no. (sigh)
You all think MikeD is kidding, don't you? It will be something as asinine as that. And only an increase in taxes (on the rich-->all of America) will save us.
DodAederen| 12.10.10 @ 10:16AM
The interesting thing is, that by raising the cost of energy and materials, the left will be able to bring to the people the misery of Global Warming whether or not it occurs.
I don't believe the left wants the people to wallow in misery, it's just they can't stand to see us reside in happiness.
Richard Baker| 12.10.10 @ 10:16AM
In the picture of Turner attached to this story, he looks like the character on the Ole Miss Rebel logo. Mint juleps anyone?
Stephanie| 12.10.10 @ 11:06AM
Or how about a TomahawkChop?
davelnaf| 12.10.10 @ 10:21AM
If, just prior to last November, Hollywood had released a movie (albeit a very whimsical one) about a possible nightmarish outcome for Obama and the Left in order to put a little motivating fire under their collective tails it would have been hard pressed to top what turned out be reality. What the left is going through must be for them like the early to middle chapters of “A Christmas Carol.” But, in this instance, there is not going to be later chapters of leftist ghosts and a crutchless Tiny Tim redeeming their withered little souls.
A. C. Santore| 12.10.10 @ 10:22AM
Oh, Heavens! I never knew that "If we don't redistribute the worlds population, the weight imbalance will adversly effect the movement of the earths techtonic plates and doom is right around the corner."
Where's Henny when we need her? "The earth is shifting! The earth is shifting!"
Mike D.| 12.10.10 @ 11:01AM
Well, it could only be solved by moving those in the US making more than 1 mil a year to the wastes of the Sahara Desert. Then all will be well.
I always wondered how many poor souls(Mayas or what have you) were tortured, beheaded and had their guts ripped out on a slab of stone to honor the "moon" god they prayed to to start this whole abortian of a meeting.
Ford| 12.10.10 @ 10:49AM
Ted Turner is not some sap (though he acts like one) He invented the modern cable industry! Cable was once just "community antennae"s so backwoodsmen coould get TV. He realized that a station could broadcast to a sattelite instead of simplly receiving. This success made him affluent and like many a genius it convinced him to solve the World"s problems (The"re unsolvable) Henry Ford and Thomas Edison and Andrew Carneigi all succumbed to the same sydrome.
The Big E| 12.10.10 @ 4:07PM
One could very well argue (and I think some have already done so), that Ted Turner's "invention" of the 24 hour news cycle has done more damage to this country than anything in the last 50 years. Or maybe longer. Sick and tired of endless talking vacuum chambers on TV? You can thank Ted Turner.
Rich Fisher| 12.10.10 @ 9:20PM
Actually, Ted Turner has almost single handedly destroyed Liberalism with his invention of the 24 hour news cycle. Until then, the Libs controlled all the news and I suspect even Ted didn't realize that someday there would be a Fox to counter the Main Stream Media's monopoly. So, actually he is a sap for inventing the very weapon that is destroying him. Of course, just marrying Jane Fonda would have elevated him to official "sapdom" but then that's another post.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 9:31PM
There are plenty of political left-wingers in this country that are very competent at what they do for a living, while being incredibly naive (or, manipulative) when it comes to politics. I can't decide which Ted is. Probably...........I can't decide which Ted is.
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.10.10 @ 11:14AM
Clinton,
Mike,
Guys,
Youall just reminded me how much I appreciate these conversations at TAS.
I learn really cool stuff every single day.
I hope each of you put TAS on your "Christmas List" They have a method of clicking a monthly donation...one click...until you cancel it.
GMS| 12.10.10 @ 11:20AM
A new phenomenom is manifest in the climate change debate. "The Gore Effect" . After his NY City Speech, Copenhagen, Cancun, and Wash DC it is obvious where Algore goes or has influence, record cold and chill strikes.
MikeD| 12.10.10 @ 11:30AM
It's sort of analogous to "Typhoid Mary". We should call ole Al "Frigid Al"; or maybe "Blizzard Buddy Algore"; or, "Awful Ally The Cold Snap Pally"! Yet, some people still believe his drivel.
If you ever doubt the existence of God, just think of what would have happened to us if Algore had actually managed to snatch the 2000 election. Can you even imagine Al being in the White House on 911? We absolutely had to have help. Only God could have given the Republicans enough spine to actually fight against the vote fraud perpetrated by the dems; although they seem to have lost the will recently.
Nate W.| 12.10.10 @ 1:29PM
Good ol' "Snow Globe" Gore; whenever he moves around, watch the snow fly!
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.10.10 @ 11:26AM
EVERYONE,
Every single time you feel a need to Bush-bash...
Pause for just a second, and say a little prayer of thanksgiving........... that Algore didn't win.
brrrrrrrrrrr...chills.
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 5:06PM
Yes, imagine all the things that might have happened: (1) We just might have been organizaed enough to put all those many clues together and stop the WTC disaster; (2) We wouldn't have foolishly invaded Iraq, wasted those billions and billions of dollars and lost those precious American soldiers; (3) We wouldn't have given away the fiscal balance, if not surplus, that we had to enable the wealthy to invest money in mortgage backed securities and other speculative schemes.
All the many possibilities of not having GW for eight years make me just shudder.
skip| 12.10.10 @ 5:26PM
(1) When that idiot was vice president 8 years, WTC was attacked, USS Cole was attacked, US embassies in Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam were attacked, to name a few. We did manage to take out a button factory the day Lewinsky testified however.
(2) Even the corrupt and incompetent United Nations stated Saddam and Iraq were in violation of seventeen (17) items that Saddam agreed to when he surrendered in the Gulf War.
(3) The mortgage crisis was caused by the actions of the political party and administration the idiot veep served.
You are wholly lacking in intelligence and wholly lacking in honesty.
Please lecture us on 'real Christian love' some more.
Idiot.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 9:40PM
1) Ummmm. Clinton had 8, count 'em, 8 opportunities to kill UBL in the 1990's. He passed.
2) We have decimated Al Qaeda in Iraq. Brilliant.
3) The Dims are the ones that invented and pushed the Sub-prime market that eventually led to our financial collapse. The Republicans confronted them on it in the 1990's and were met with the usual accusations of being racists and fear mongers--rational people that Democrats are. And finally, President Bush confronted Congress no fewer than 11 times on the same issue. Again, he was called a fear monger and a racist.
So..........i'm sorry..................What's your point?
Occam's Tool| 12.10.10 @ 10:10PM
RCV:
Al Gore was/is a poor dad, a poor husband, and a poor Veep. In addition, he would have left us helpless to 911, as his boss did to the 1993 bombers. One can make an argument for Leiberman as a Liberal, but Gore? Yecch.
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 11:34PM
I've always found Al Gore to be insufferable, and as as for his personal conduct I agree with you fully. I still would have reluctantly taken him over GW, whom I like personally but who was thoroughly incompetent as a President and who did great and lasting damage to our country.
victor| 12.11.10 @ 12:59AM
RCV:
"but who was thoroughly incompetent as a President and who did great and lasting damage to our country."
Yes, you are absolutely right about Jimmy Carter in the first part, but wrong in the second part as Ronald Reagan was elected to pour Wite-Out over the previous four years.
And that recession was FAR worse than Obama's recession.
It only seems worse because of Obama's supreme incompetence at doing anything except making himself look good while ignoring the iceberg in front of the Titanic.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 12:45PM
...said the idiot who backtracked on his words posted at 5:06 pm mighty mighty quickly
...and exposed for one and all yet again that liberalism is synonymous with a complete lack of intelligence and a complete lack of honesty.
RCV, the gift that keeps on giving.
RCV| 12.11.10 @ 4:14PM
I stand by every word of my 5:06 post, skippie.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 9:22PM
Which is why you are considered both unintelligent and dishonest.
RCV| 12.11.10 @ 4:14PM
I stand by every word of my 5:06 post, skippie.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 9:23PM
Which is why you are considered both unintelligent and dishonest.
Which is why you are considered both unintelligent and dishonest.
Ray| 12.11.10 @ 6:26AM
Did you hear about Al Gore's latest project. It's a wind powered airplane. The prototype is almost ready. It has the wind turbine on one end and a standard propeller on the other, but they can't decide which way the pilot faces.
Bill| 12.10.10 @ 11:32AM
"It's not fiction, it's science." Well, pshew, that's a step in the right direction; if it's science, then it must be objective and open to questioning, criticism, and modification, and finally being discarded when something that describes reality comes along, right?
James Bonner| 12.10.10 @ 11:39AM
I enjoyed your prose and opinion of COP-16, I learned something and had a chuckle. Thank you.
Your last sentance seems to indicate that the President is somehow ill informed or improperly trained to be the leader of the United States and the free world. I would argue that he was never trained to be a leader in a free world. He's doing exactly what he was trained to do; disrupting the standard operating procedures of the free world. It may take 20 more years to fully achieve the revolution they seek, but Obama has said, he's willing to represent the first blow to the gut of Liberty and leave it to others to finish the job.
He was the progressive's perfect candidate and he's doing an acceptable job for their cause.
"It seems that he has come face-to-face with the realization that he really doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing as the leader of the United States and the free world."
WRJonas| 12.10.10 @ 12:11PM
A year ago we were all wondering how long it would take this Jabba- The -Hut sized monstrosity of a hoax to go through the death throes and vanish forever.
It seems as though they are trying to still live on. Give them one more year then the right needs to destroy this beast.
danshanteal| 12.10.10 @ 1:10PM
Several comments: (1) Ted Turner is ok. Think of yourself as a billionaire with nothing to do all day(2) It was ironic that the temps reached a 100 year low in Cancun. (3) Climategate sure put the kaput on Gore and the rest of the hysterics. (4) When China and India reach full economic bloom, most of us will be choking from their pollution wafting across the Pacific. Have a nice day.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 9:44PM
As soon as control of the rest of Congress and the Executive branch are wrenched from the irresponsible hands of you political south-paws, I will indeed have a nice day. Thank you.
e cowan| 12.10.10 @ 1:23PM
Turner, a longtime supporter of the president, said that Obama had made "a big mistake" by ramming through Obamacare rather than cap-and-trade. As he put it in his inimitable way, "If we don't stop global warming, we'll be extinct, and then we'll be really sorry."
Also Turner was quoted in:
Monday's Globe and Mail (Canadian)
Published Sunday, Dec. 05
"Climate change and population control can make for a politically explosive mix, as media mogul Ted Turner demonstrated Sunday when he urged world leaders to institute a global one-child policy to save the Earth’s environment."
I think Turner has gone 'round the bend.
Dr Dan| 12.10.10 @ 2:08PM
Why the hell did the author of this article have to take off on the President of the US? Nothing better tio do than dis someone who knows and does more good in one hour than you can do in a lifetimw. Who the f are you anyway?
skip| 12.10.10 @ 2:48PM
The author quotes the idiot liar-in-chief on what a grave danger manmade global warming is.
Go to:
www.petitionproject.org
The petition is just four sentences in length. The idiot liar-in-chief knows less about economics and diplomacy than he does science.
Skippy| 12.10.10 @ 5:37PM
We were just about to ask you the same question, but the content of your post provided us with the answer.
I would be happy to "dis" you at your convenience.
skip| 12.10.10 @ 5:57PM
Something tells me you are intelligent and you are honest. I just can't put my finger on why that is....
PCP Smoker| 12.10.10 @ 7:02PM
Who the fuck are you to be defending that asshole Obama? Fuck you.
There is one fucking thing you can say Socialist Hussein for sure: He is lazy
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 9:46PM
Someone who got under your skin. ;)
Occam's Tool| 12.10.10 @ 10:15PM
THIS President hasn't done much good. I'll gladly stack my professional record of do-gooding against his. I sincerely doubt that he has saved as many lives as I have.
And, I sorry, but he has no record of achievement that is positive. We do know that his wife denied poor people in Chicago medical care, and we do know that he denied poor black kids in washington, DC private school educations by eliminating scholarships.
If you really want to talk about people who do good for a lot of people, though, try Ken or Norman Borlaug; not this pompous clown.
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 5:09PM
...said the guy who apparently thinks that dinosaurs coexisted with humans since how else could that infallible biblical timetable be true?
skip| 12.10.10 @ 5:32PM
Imitation is the sincere form of flattery.
To the best of my knowledge the solar system, including earth, is 4,600,000,000 years old, and the universe is 13,700,000,000.
Science has never, not once, contradicted the Bible.
You are wholly lacking in intelligence and wholly lacking in honesty.
Lecture us some more on 'real Christian love'.
Idiot.
skip| 12.10.10 @ 5:36PM
And, since you just opined on the idiot Gore above, for once I would be interested in your opinion on the petition that is just four sentences in length at www.petitionproject.com.
I dare you to grace us all and respond to this petition that is on the subject nearest and dearest to your would-have-been-savior Albert 'Integrity' Gore.
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 7:06PM
Skip: Whether the Bible has been "contradicted" by science depends on your view of what the Bible is, and whether it was meant to be taken precisely and literally as we have it in written form. If the latter, i.e. if you are a Bible fundamentalist who believes it literally, then, yes, much of what we have come to know scientifically is inconsistent with the Bible.
For example, those Bible fundamentalists who calculate the date of creation by the genealogies in Bible come up with a date far, far younder for the earth's age than we know to be possible.
Secondly, whether or not one accepts the evidence for evolution of species through natural selection, we know that all the forms of life weren't created within a few days, whether one views a day as we understand it, or tries to weasel out of the biblical language by saying "a day is like a thousand years to God." Humans, for example, didn't appear for 65 million of years or so after dinosaurs first appeared.
If plants were created on the third day, and the sun wasn't created until the fourth day, either the days are indeed one day long, or this couldn't happen since science tells us that plant life needs sun for survival (indeed, they would have frozen even in the one-day interim without sunlight). I could go on and on.
Of course, if you have a brain, and can understand that God speaks to us mere humans in parables and stories (just like He did in the Gospels), and that we get those transmissions wrong sometimes, and things get lost in thousands of years of oral transmission, than there is no inconsistency between Genesis and science -- indeed even with evolutionary origins of the species through natural selection. But you don't strike me as a person with any depth of understanding to realize that.
And, finally, I don't sign silly petitions on scientific matters, and know enough to understand how deeply divided real scientists are on the causes and implications of, and responses to, climate change.
Finally, I never was an Al Gore supporter or admirer, though I would have taken him over George W in a heartbeat.
Margie| 12.10.10 @ 7:58PM
Heh, I notice that Liberals don't like to take the Constitution literally, either.
Yes, to them it is that "living Document" that is allowed to be twisted and turned in order to suit their Leftist leanings, just like the Bible, hmm?
It may be convenient for the Leftists to do but for now, but will it be so on that Day? You know the one I'm talking about, right?
skip| 12.10.10 @ 8:04PM
The 31,487 signers aren't geniuses like you, they are all actual scientists who provide their degrees, disciplines, and institutions who degreed them.
The deeply divided scientists you refer to on manmade global warming, oops, global warming, whoops, climate change, you refer to are these aforementioned 31,487 actual scientists, versus the 2,500 publicly humiliated and exposed fraudulent political appointees of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Your intellectually sloppy Biblical ramblings do much to explain to one and all your intellectually sloppy drivel on the Constitution.
And how exactly do you in your Biblical understanding synthesize the sixth commandment of the ten commandments of Exodus 20, "Thou shalt not kill", with the abortion policy of your political party? If you are up to it, the tenth, "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor", as well? I did just read correctly that you expounded on the concept of the length of a 'day' in Genesis, did I not? Perhaps 'sloppy' is an ineffectual adjective.
You must have left many a court breathless with your mastery.
Idiot.
skip| 12.10.10 @ 8:09PM
While you are at it, please edify to the benefit of one and all on the difference between macroevolutionary theory and microevolutionary theory.
Truth to Power| 12.10.10 @ 9:36PM
RCV will get back to you later. She is off praying to Ixchel.
http://voices.washingtonpost.c....._call.html
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 10:04PM
Skippy, you didn't address the Genesis/science issues. I'm waiting for your brilliant wisdom.
Let's also take a poll of scientists on evolution and see if you also give their credentials the weight they deserve.
You're a very shallow thinker, Skippy, and an even nastier person.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 12:23AM
...said the idiot who when asked about the petition at www.petitionproject.com where 31,487 real scientists (as opposed to the 2,500 frauds and political hacks at the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change) give their bonafides and thoroughly debunk manmade global warming, responded:
"I don't sign silly petitions on science matters"
I am not making this up. Scroll up to his eminently brilliant post of 7:06pm. My eyes are still watering and my sides still ache from laughing my ass off.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 10:22PM
Actually, all we know when looking at fossils is that whatever it was died. You cannot derive any meaninful dates from that. Nor can you by looking at dirt. All the dates you take for granted as being true are, in fact, contrived to make evolution look plausible. It is not. There is not one shred of evidence that one type of species evolved into any other type of species. You get that idea from a series of drawings in a book of an ape eventually standing more and more erect. You will not find any actual evidence supporting that in the field. Again, if it were true, we should be tripping over the evidence. So while you are mocking those of us who believe that the earth is much younger, you in fact have no actual evidence supporting your own point of view. All we have gotten from the "scientific" community is one hoax after another. From Piltdown Man, to Nebraska Man, to Java Man, and now, sadly, Lucy--another proven hoax.
Evolution was and is a much bigger and more damaging hoax than AGW ever was or will be.
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 11:37PM
This is pure and utter nonsense. Please, do yourself a favor and take a college-level course on evolutionary biology.
Truth to Power| 12.10.10 @ 11:59PM
These are RCV's just so stories and nothing more. He is comforted by stories of blind random processes where there is no judge of his evil behavior. A scientist that does anything practical gains nothing from this nonsense. RCV's keen intellect, developed on the plains of Africa chasing goats, might make some believe in devolution. I just think he is on the far left side of the IQ distribution.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 9:58PM
I'm still waiting for all you educated types to please explain to me the Cambrian life explosion. What is it, 130-140 years after Darwin's, "The Origin of Species", and still no explaination? How about polystraight trees? No? How about the London Artifact? No? How about not one shred of evidence in the fossil record supporting Darwin's claims. We should be tripping over the evidence.
And infallible timetables? How about doing the math and realising that if we only go back about 44,000 years, there wouldn't be enough space in the known universe to keep all of us humans on all the estimated numbers planets, let alone planet Earth. The absolute last thing you should do is mock anyone else's time table since "science" is continually revising it's own.
Hmmm. Yes, Evolution. Let's call it "science". The fools........Muha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 10:08PM
I'm still waiting for some fundamentalist Christian to explain how the Cambrian explosion fits in with a literal reading of Genesis. Which day was that?
Occam's Tool| 12.10.10 @ 10:20PM
RCV,
I was taught in Hebrew school that a "day" to us and a "day" to G-d were two different things. The Bible is not a physics, geology, or biology text. It is a religious text.
That being said, however, it's amazing how the rabbinical fathers had so much medical knowledge centuries before they became "scientifically" based.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 10:34PM
I actually don't care if RCV believes in God or not, I'm just tired of everyone assuming that what they were taught in school is "gospel" if you will. My point being that if someone is interested in the truth, especially if you are pursuing a scientific discipline, you should be willing to go where the evidence takes you. The scientific community today seems more intersted in defending Darwin than in pursuing actual science. Darwin was disproven over 100 years ago, yet the textbooks still teach evolution. Teachers still teach it. Sad. I wonder how much we'd know if we could get on with actual scientific discovery.
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 11:49PM
I agree fully with you. What has always amazed me about the Bible is not its inconsistency with science - that only happens if you incorrectly view it as a science and history textbook, which it was never intended to be. What has astonished me is its accurate insights into scientific truths that were unavailable to the human mind thousands of years ago -- that the universe sprung into existence out of nothing in the flash of an instance - a big bang, as Hubble termed it centuries later, just as Genesis told us. And that creation was an on-going, step by step process, first the simple life forms, followed by more complex ones, culminating in man. This is not contradicted by the discovery of the scientific truths of evolution: it was man writing down the inspired, but incompletely understood truths from his Creator.
The books of Francis Collins beautifully argue how we have gradually come to understand the wonders of His creation, and how insightful the inspired writings preserved in the Hebrew Bible are.
BTW, even though I was raised as a Catholic, I also went to Hebrew School in the afternoon because we lived in a Jewish neighborhood in NY and my mother thought it would be good for me.
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 11:50PM
The "you" I agreed with, of course, was Occam.
jstwndring| 12.10.10 @ 10:26PM
Well, i'm not sure. However, I wasn't there, were you? 550 billion years ago? How do explain life coming from nowhere? Did it will itself into existance?
Oh, and do you mean as opposed to a fundamentalist Darwinian?
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 11:51PM
It was, I believe, created by God.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 12:36AM
Please lecture us on 'real Christian love' some more as today, just like every day since January 22, 1973, and average of more than 3,700 innocent American unborn babies were 'legally' murdered.
Hey, who said "at least after their born we take care of them" anyway?
"I don't sign silly petitions on science matters"
I am laughing my ass off right now.
RCV| 12.11.10 @ 2:02AM
You can laugh off whatever part of your body you want, Skippy. I don't sign silly petitions like that, because there's no point to it. What are my own views on climate change, if you really want to know:
Radical climate change is a part of the earth's history and it's future, and there's very little we can presently do to change that in the long run. We will have periods of warming and periods of extensive ice. Eventually, the sun will do what all stars do, and earth will be uninhabitable sometime in the future, long after you and I are gone.
Has human activity in the short term affected climate somewhat? Yes. Should we be concerned enough to try and understand what these changes might be and whether we can or should do things to ameliorate those effects? Yes. Do we understand enough at this point? No. Are there modest things we should do to reduce carbon emissions in a responsible and cost-effective way? Yes, and for a whole host of reasons relating to health. Is promoting corn-based ethanol one? It was always a stupid idea from the start. Is changing our light bulbs to ones containing poisonous mercury smart? No. It's downright stupid and dangerous. Is trying to make cars more fuel-efficient a good goal? Yes. Is promoting greater use of solar and nuclear and other clean fuels a good thing? Yes.
I could go on, but there's no point to do so. These issues are complex and important and difficult. If younthink signing the four-sentence petition would be helpful, be my guest.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 1:00PM
You imbecile.
You CAN"T sign it.
Only legitimate scientists in the field of physics can sign it.
The 31,487 signers are legitimate physics scientists.
An egotistical pseudointellectual defender of Obama and liberalism for crying out loud who approves of the direction his state of California just took on November 2 and lectures on 'real Christian love' as more than 3700 innocent defenseless unborn Americans are brutally slaughtered every single fucking day and is every reader will agree the biggest hypocrite at this website is not qualified to sign that petition.
Idiot.
RCV| 12.11.10 @ 2:06PM
Skip, in addition to cleaning up your language, you ought to see someone professionally about your anger issues.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 3:57PM
...said the egotistical pseudointellectual defender of Obama and liberalism who approves of the direction his state of California which is under a declared state of economic emergency just took on November 2 and who lectures on 'real Christian love' as more than 3700 innocent defenseless unborn Americans are brutally slaughtered every single (ahem) day and who is as every intelligent and honest reader will agree the most vile hypocrite at this website and who by the way is someone who doesn't sign silly petitions about science matters even though the petition is for qualified physics scientists and not for egotistical pseudointellectual defenders of Obama and liberalism who are monumental hypocrites and a testament to idiocy.
I will stack my anger at the brutal slaughter of over 3700 innocent defenseless unborn Americans each and every day and at the liberalism destroying America and attacking Christianity against your vile hypocritical stupidity and dishonesty any day.
RCV| 12.11.10 @ 4:52PM
Take a deep breath, skipee. One. Two. Three. There, don't you feel better, Now?
skip| 12.11.10 @ 7:37PM
...said the monumental hypocrite and testament to idiocy who when asked about the petition at www.petitionproject.com where thirty one thousand four hundred eighty seven scientists of various disciplines of physics thoroughly debunked manmade global warming responded by posting and I quote
"I don't sign silly petitions on science matters"
while cowardly ignoring yet again the reality that today on average over three thousand seven hundred thirty five innocent defenseless unborn Americans
have 'legally' been brutally slaughtered just like each of the last fourteen thousand two hundred two days.
I feel pretty good as I always do when I think but for the Grace of God I too could be a monumental hypocrite and a testament to idiocy and a coward on a level with any and every liberal.
Occam's Tool| 12.12.10 @ 1:03AM
Dear Skip:
I looked at the petition. One needs a PhD in a hard science. Mathematics, chemistry, physics, geology, etc. No English majors, and no MDs. Oh, well. Can't sign it.
victor| 12.11.10 @ 12:46AM
RCV:
"I believe, created by God."
Yes, Darwin, and everything else was created by God.
And God sent His Son to die for the sins of the whole world.
And that surely has to include you.
RCV| 12.11.10 @ 1:45AM
Everything you said in your post was absolutely true, Victor. God created everything in our universe, inluding the laws and processes by which the natural world operates.
And He did visit His creation in the form of Christ,
Jesus, who died for all our sins and redeemed us. You won't get an argument from me on any of that.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 9:30PM
Where is the passage in scripture that commands us to brutally slaughter over fifty million of our innocent defenseless unborn under legal pretenses?
"I don't sign silly petitions on science matters"
Does that include pseudoscientific mumbojumbo on fetuses?
Occam's Tool| 12.12.10 @ 1:05AM
What made me come to my senses on the abortion question, Skip, was the euthanasia question. I then realized that both euthanasia and abortion are similar positions on the continuum of the Culture of Death. But it took me years. Give RCV some time to think.
RCV| 12.12.10 @ 2:51PM
Yes, it includes petitions on all scientific subjects. If physicist had voted on Einstein's theories of general and specific relativity, they would have been roundly rejected.
MyUgly Face| 12.13.10 @ 10:43PM
I was listening to a guy on CBC radio about three weeks ago describing two dinosaurs that lived 500 billion years ago. He called them by name, described them down to the smallest detail, described how they would attack each other, and their temperments. It was almost like he was watching them that very moment from his kitchen window.
Anthony| 12.10.10 @ 8:32PM
This loony AGW kool aid drinking lefty has a cattle ranch out west with about 15,000 acres.
Can't we waterboard him for crimes against humanity with all that bovine flatulence he is creating?
And, we should chain wifey Barbarella to an Iranian nuke plant as a human shield.
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.10.10 @ 8:35PM
RCV,
hello again.......................DUMBASS.
I have tried to be at least semi-polite to you for over a year now. I'm done now.
Your little whispers to homeland security czars has ended that.
FOLKS,
Thank God I,live inTexas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RCV is a "plant"...probably paid by Soros, who comes here to bait us into writing something the feds can use to silence us.
I used a "trap" our buddy used in Clancy's book.
I now know that "RCV" is a bait to entrap us for his communist bosses.
Be very careful. RCV and his buddies are paid BIG BUCKS trying to entrap you and I.
RCV, thank you for buying my book before you forwarded it to your masters.
FOLKS,
I pay my attorneys several thousand dollars a month to help us UNDERSTAND and abide by the laws.
On the other side of the courtrooms... are the RCVs of the world.
Be very careful how you write here. RCVs are monitoring you
God bless America
RCV| 12.10.10 @ 10:15PM
Ken, I don't know how to get this through your paranoid, self-aggrandized ego, but I don't know anyone in Homeland Security and wouldn't know who to forward anything to them if I wanted to. Nor would I waste my time doing so: you're just silly, and your ramblings are of no importance to anyone.
You've never been polite to anyone you disagree with, so don't start now. But if you don't want people visiting you, you might stop threatening to shoot everyone you disagree with.
skip| 12.11.10 @ 4:13PM
...said the morally superior hypocrite who uses his unclean nasty language to vent his anger at among other things having his time wasted on silly petitions on science matters regardless of the fact that the petition is for physics scientists and not for nasty unclean language using hypocrites in need of dealing with their anger management issues.
RCV| 12.11.10 @ 5:19PM
Assume the lotus position, skippee. Deep breath. One... Two... Three...
skip| 12.11.10 @ 7:57PM
...said the monumental hypocrite and testament to idiocy who cowardly resorts to puerility every time he is called out on unintelligent and dishonest opinions and engages in fraudulent distortions while persistently pretending obliviousness to the fact readers are not deceived
RCV| 12.12.10 @ 1:22AM
Or spend some quality professional time with Occam.
skip| 12.15.10 @ 9:35PM
...said the genius who could not figure out said genius was not qualified to sign the petition but was nonetheless egotistical enough to call it silly while completely oblivious to the fact he let his ass hang out for all to see again only this time even said genius should be able to see this:
"I don't sign silly petitions on science matters"
J.C.Eaton| 12.10.10 @ 10:00PM
Ken, amigo, you may be right aboutRCV's employment and MO, but frankly, I think you give him exponentially more deference and cachet than the bore deserves. He tries to be provocative and instead turns out the same sorry, vapid, banal, tautology EVERY,EVERY time up to bat. He inspires no one, he impresses no one, he convinces no one. Nor does he seek to. He write to irritate, nothing more. You dignify this self-styled idiot savant by taking him seriously. Best,
Docroxall| 12.11.10 @ 4:02AM
Hey if Algore was so convinced about global warming...why did he buy a $9M mansion in LA...certainly one of the first places covered by melting polar ice caps? What what he does, not what he says...he didn't go to this summit, BTW...enough said. Correlation does not infer causality...a truth that most climate zealots don't understand. Climate change happens, but there is no conclusive evidence that human behavior influences it. There are models assuming it does, that do a fine job of that...but they are hardl science.
larry| 12.11.10 @ 6:59PM
Why should Al Gore BE there? He's already milked it for a hundred million bucks, and a new love life! What more can a greasy flatus-bag want?
John DuBose| 12.11.10 @ 11:41PM
A deep fundamental value exists in studying things like climate. It may be too hard to draw valid conclusions right now. But someday the combined efforts of MANY scientists will probably get it right.
It seems that left wing politicians jumped on preliminary conclusions and pushed the funding to emphasize the danger ahead. Seeking more grants, some of the scientists seem to have cooked their results. Turns out that the danger is probably overstated and no economy killing plans will actually get carried out.
But we still need to worry.. What if the next scientific panic has it right. Maybe they will have called "wolf " once too often and a real ecological catastrophy will occur.
weddingdress | 7.1.11 @ 1:06AM
Why should Al Gore BE there? He's already milked it for a hundred million bucks, and a new love life! What more can a greasy flatus-bag want?