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The Obama Watch

The Madness of Obamanomics

An administration doing all it can to delay economic recovery indefinitely.

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What actually drives economic recovery and growth is increased production, which results from increased incentives to produce, and reduced costs burdening production. That involves reduced tax rates, which allow producers to keep a higher percentage of what they produce. It also involves reduced regulatory costs and reduced costs of government spending. This is what the more modern supply-side economics adopted by President Reagan was all about. But Obama refuses to consider any of this because it involves reducing rather than expanding the power of government, and he is rigidly opposed to that ideologically.

Instead what we continue to hear from soon to be former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and the equally brain-dead Joe Biden (both of whom make Sarah Palin sound like a Nobel Prize winner), is the continuing Keynesian foolishness that extended unemployment benefits will promote economic recovery and growth. “That money is immediately spent at the gas station and the grocery store,” Biden tells us. But if that is so promising, why don’t we just send every American a check for $1,000 right now? Oh, wait, we tried just that in the “stimulus” stupidity of February 2008, at the behest of Pelosi, Biden and Obama then heading the Democrat Congressional majorities. That worked so great nobody even remembers it anymore.

This doesn’t mean we should not extend unemployment benefits. It just shows that Obama and the Democrats have no understanding of how to promote economic growth and recovery. What does it say about their economic policies that we are now seeking to extend unemployment benefits past two years to how long, three years? What effect does that have on unemployment? Obama and the Democrats can’t figure that out? Or are they deliberately trying to trash the economy?

But Obama persists in his public policy malpractice, and misleadership, in seeking extension along with the Bush tax cuts of the refundable tax credits in his failed 2009 stimulus package, like the so-called “Making Work Pay” tax credit. Because those tax credits do not reduce rates, they do nothing to provide increased incentives for production, and economic recovery. They are really just tax welfare, based again on the Keynesian hocus pocus that the increased demand from increased spending, deficits, and debt will promote recovery and growth. The American people just demonstrated in the 2010 elections that they understand what Obama doesn’t: that increased government spending, deficits, and debt are the problem, not the solution. They will demonstrate that again in 2012, if Obama is so reckless in his misleadership of the Democrat party as to give the voters that chance.

Obama Decrees Economic Shutdown

The economy is even now straining to break through the Obama bonds holding it back from economic recovery. With $2 trillion in corporate cash reserves, $1 trillion at least in excess bank reserves, and the 2010 elections putting an end to any further New Left immaturity getting through Congress, extending the Bush tax cuts just could be enough to allow a bounding recovery to resume. Just remember that American economic history is that the deeper and longer the downturn the stronger the recovery.

No doubt Obama will demand political credit for that inevitable recovery whenever it comes, no matter how many years his brain-dead policies manage to delay it. But with recovery coming only after the GOP political tsunami of 2010, and extension of the Bush tax cuts, no way the voters will be fooled by Obama and his party-controlled press again.

Political commentary regarding 2012 today is a treasure trove of great mirth. Obama’s chances of reelection are less than zero. There is a greater possibility that if he tries he will terminate the Democrat party outside of its urban political machines.

In 1964, Lyndon Johnson won a much bigger landslide than Barack Obama in 2008. By 1968, thanks to the Kennedy tax rate cuts, “the economy was booming, with 4.8% real growth,” as explained by Jeffrey Anderson in Investors Business Daily on November 26. “March 31, 1968…capped an economic quarter in which the real (seasonally adjusted) annual rate of growth in GDP was 8.5%,” as Anderson further explains. What happened on March 31, 1968? That was the day on which Johnson pulled out of his hopeless reelection bid, at the height of '60s liberalism.

So, no, a GOP economic recovery is not going to save Barack Obama politically in 2012. But that issue may never arise. Because the Obama Administration is plunging headlong into doing all it can to further prevent economic recovery.

Last week, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced a 7 year moratorium on oil drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico and up the east coast. They need that time to further study the BP oil spill and implement a “more stringent regulatory regime,” Salazar transparently prevaricated. Salazar is consequently depriving America of 7.5 billion barrels of oil and 60 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. To ensure their access to a reliable supply of oil at the time, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. That’s shows what a serious attack on the American people this policy is.

Meanwhile, EPA Director Lisa Jackson is imposing cap and trade by regulatory decree, despite its thorough democratic rejection by a Democrat-controlled Congress and the American people in 2010. The result will be mass retirements of the coal plants that produce half of America’s electricity, skyrocketing electricity costs, and an indefinite moratorium on major energy, manufacturing, and construction projects. Once fully implemented, this bureaucratic coup will effectively be a $1 to $2 trillion tax increase on the American economy, destroying millions of jobs and trillions in GDP. As President Obama himself has suggested, this is his alternative way of “skinning the cat.”

As Dick Morris and others have explained, through this, its new draconian ozone regulations, and additional new sulfur dioxide regulations, even though there is no real problem with current regulatory standards, the EPA is “virtually making economic growth illegal in large parts of the United States.”

Meanwhile, FCC Chairman, and Obama law school pal, Julius Genachowski is plotting to seize the Internet under the guise of “Net Neutrality” regulations to be revealed at an FCC meeting on Feb. 21, as reported last week. Investor’s Business Daily urged readers on December 2 to note the emphasis in news reports “on ‘lawful Internet traffic’ and a ‘level playing field. This is government-speak for controlling what gets said and who gets to say it.… The FCC wants to decide what and whose ideas get heard.… The FCC would decide how and what information could flow through the Net.”

The Wall Street Journal noted last weekend that the FCC is moving ahead with these regulatory decrees “despite a federal court ruling in April that said the FCC lacked authority from Congress to restrict how Internet service providers manage traffic on their networks.” The Journal also noted, “All 95 House and Senate candidates — every one — who had signed a pledge stating that ‘I believe in protecting net neutrality’ lost in the midterm election.” But don’t expect trivialities like the law and democracy to stand in the way of the Hugo Chavez admirers on the FCC.

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About the Author

Peter Ferrara is Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy at the Heartland Institute, General Counsel of the American Civil Rights Union, Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, and Senior Policy Advisor on Entitlements and Budget Policy at the National Tax Limitation Foundation. He served in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Reagan, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under President George H.W. Bush.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (104) |

TennesseeVolunteer| 12.8.10 @ 7:07AM

Huzzah, Peter, Huzzah!
Your calls for impeachment of these leftist beuracrats is the call for the end of strangling our country and it's people.
Many small businesses are absolutely drying up. Hanging on by a thread, many are very close to closing up because of the lack of customers who are spending.
The election in November was a shot over the bow but any conservative who thinks that the Democratic Socialists of the liberal elite will bow to reason is common sense is sadly mistaken. They mean to fundamentally transform our country and we must take it back!

Alan Brooks| 12.8.10 @ 1:22PM

Yet the reason you lost in 2008 is you lack the cohesion you enjoyed in the '80s.

Billy| 12.8.10 @ 2:54PM

So what? What in blazes does your remark have to do with TennVol's comment? You might try explaining why YOU lost in 2010. And give us a shout in 2013 with your analysis ...

KJ| 12.8.10 @ 3:52PM

All this talk of left or right, Liberal or Conservative. What happened to class struggle and discourse between the have's and have's-not? Keynesian economics also states government has the responsibility and the duty to ensure the spending is regulated. IE: it goes where it most needed and most beneficial with transparency and accountability (not the bankers pockets). There is no distinction between Liberal or Conservative in this regard. What we have is a distinction between right and wrong (morally, politically, and economically). If people want things to change, get out and vote (current voter turnout is abysmal)- or better yet, run for political office. This is especially true at the municipal levels. Reparation will be from the bottom up, not the top down.

Alan Brooks| 12.8.10 @ 4:31PM

"Reparation will be from the bottom up, not the top down."

Yours' is new age marxism: Toffler meets Trotsky. I am increasinglty surprised how gullible so many are; it's the timeframe, to change things takes enormous "amounts" of time (almost as if time is a commodity such as pork bellies!)
KJ, if you want to be gullible, that is your business, however I choose not to share that aspect of you. You will say "we have to start somewhere", but you don't know what the "start" is heading to; that is to say the trajectory is all too open-ended. However if you feel reparation must be from the bottom up ('fads are top down, trends are bottom up'), you are saying we must struggle like marxists being the vanguard in a self-sacrificing class war. But go right ahead, storm the barricades; you can be in front of me taking bullets; because the vanguard is to be sacrificed-- so there is no reason for you to reply to this comment.

What is there to say?: "Power to de peeples"?

Alan Brooks| 12.8.10 @ 4:35PM

...PS
"If people want things to change"

That's the point, perhaps the 'people' don't really want change.

Alan Brooks| 12.8.10 @ 6:11PM

ours' is new age maamounts" of time (almost as if time is arxism: T change things takes enormous " commodity such as pork belliesoffler meets Trotsky. I am increasinglty surprised how gullible so many are; it's the timeframe, to!)
KJ, if you want to bhave to start somewhere", but you don't know what the "start" is heading to; that is to say the trajectory is all if you feel reparation must e gullible, that is your business, however I choose not to share that aspect of you. You will say "we be from the bottom up ('fads are top down, trends too open-ended. However are bottom up'), you are saying we must struggle like marxists being the vanguard in athe vayou can be in front nguard is to be self-sacrificing class war. But go right ahead, stormto de peeples"?
the barricades; of me taking bullets; because sacrificed-- so there is no reason for you to reply tWhat is there to
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Alan Brooks| 12.10.10 @ 2:39AM

I have 39 cents in change in my pocket.

KJ| 12.8.10 @ 11:07PM

I'm not here to get into a dogmatic argument. I'm part of the so called middle class. (This presumes there is an upper, and lower class). I'm not big business (I have 22 employees and feel responsible for 22 employees, 16 wives, 4 girlfriends, and 28 children...(at last count) not including cats, dogs, etc.) I take an avid participation in local politics, thereby (hopefully) helping to ensure the viability of my business and thus the livelihood of my employees and their families. I'm convinced this translates into bottom up political pressure with regards to regional and federal levels of government. I would love to get away from the Us and them, left and right dogmatism and get on with the real issues...jobs, sustainable monetary system (whatever that is), government transparency and accountability. This can be broken down to many levels: ie: Jobs on the continent, specific states, localities...checks on speculation in monetary terms (pay taxes on what you make...esp those making above 6 figures), I could and can go on. Changes to electoral system, not only making it easier to vote, but also encouraging independents to run. More independents. Independents give rise to increased exposure to local issues, and (in my experience) greater voter involvement. Maybe I am already in the vanguard (if you want to quote Trotsky). I don't see it that way. I'm trying to do what is right for my family, the families I support, and the environment we live in. The environment they will inherit. If I am taking bullets, it is from people like yourself that need to stop the dogma and engage in civil conversation so that we can take that conversation to higher levels.

KJ| 12.8.10 @ 11:33PM

PS: Who is gullible or accepted...who is good or evil...who is right or wrong. If I am biased, it is on behalf of the middle class and those striving to be a part of it. I would like to see politicians with the same bias.

Alan Brooks| 12.8.10 @ 6:08PM

You're right Billy. That was a really dumb statement. I had to write something. I'm a lozel, you know?

Alan Brooks| 12.10.10 @ 2:37AM

Born loser.

Jonathan| 12.9.10 @ 1:03PM

John Lott? Are you kidding me?

Unfortunate, really. Your educational background clearly has not given you the empirical rigor you should have developed by now. Broad sweeing claims of "failure", and "doesn't work" is not a sufficient argument, nor are your cherrypicked examples. You do your alma matter a great diservice sir, but the proletariate seem to enjoy your simple analysis.

Ryan| 12.9.10 @ 1:05PM

Small businesses by their nature suffer from lack lack of customers, most go under in boom or bust. From your logic, you should support extending middle class tax cuts and extending unemployment benefits. Go back to the circus, clown.

Melvin| 12.8.10 @ 7:14AM

Of course Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, and John Kerry are going to tout these type of economics, is because they already have theirs. They're multi millionaires and the rational is. "Hey we can afford to experiment, but just not with our money, we'll use the taxpayers."
The very economic system they rail against is the exact system that allowed them to be millionaires and the one sided tax code in this Country.
Obama, will have come to Washington without a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, and will also leave a multi millionaire.
I'm not against people becoming millionaires, it just the fact that Obama and the gang don't want anyone else to either.
I guess they're attitude is that if there was too many Americans being millionaires then there wouldn't be a demand for Fascist elitist snobs would there?

Alan brooks| 12.8.10 @ 1:25PM

Well then see if you can replace the effete GOP with a vibrant Tea Party-- if you have what it takes to pull it off.

Billy| 12.8.10 @ 2:56PM

Yes, we will see, won't we? but maybe you should be worried that no matter what the Tea Party does in the future, what they HAVE done to date is eviscerate you. Be afraid, be very afraid :))

mikeD| 12.8.10 @ 7:50PM

Mr. brooks: We tire of your antics. I'd say you love to hear yourself talk, but I guess, in this forum, you must love to see how frequently and blatantly you can make a complete fool of yourself. Don't dispair though; you're getting better at it every day. In the immortal words of Forrest Gump: "Stupid is as stupid does." You're living proof. I think it's time you got a job and did something useful with your time.

coal carrier| 12.8.10 @ 7:15AM

Obama’s intention is to collapse the entire economic and financial system and start over again. His hope is that this collapse will be such a calamity that he will be able to dictate directly from the Oval Office. There will be no need for the Constitution or the Congress any longer.

What the hell do you think he meant when he said, “we are going to fundamentally change this country”? Read his books; look at the people that he has surrounded himself with and look at his family. Who they were, what they believed in and how he was trained.

saleboter| 12.8.10 @ 7:20AM

"former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi" That has a nice ring to it, kinda like former president obami.

Melvin| 12.8.10 @ 7:34AM

Salboter, this woman is a Franciscan fascist snob, and they don't go quietly into the night with dignity. This woman will continue to wreak havoc on our economic system and system of governance.
She'll be twice as deadly as she was as Speaker, now she can wreak havoc behind the scenes for the stuff we don't see.
This woman and those like her need to be removed from Washington D.C. one way or another.

dave| 12.10.10 @ 12:47PM

This is the best argument for term limits that I have seen. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Limit the amount of time they have the power to screw things up and perhaps things will not get so screwed up. Another thought is to amend the Constitution so that all laws and programs are automatically terminated at the end of 20 years, no ifs, ands or buts. Then, future generations can decide if the terrible programs like Social Security and Medicare are really worth keeping and paying for.

MikeD| 12.8.10 @ 8:26AM

Yes, it does have a 'nice ring', but not nearly as nice as: "Disgraced, impeached, indicted, and convicted former president obama." Works for me.

The three "Fools", obama, reid, and pelosi, can't be that stupid, they are evil and their actions are intentional. As you said, "They have theirs", probably safely off shore in gold, and they are gleefully punishing the country they hate. Impeachment is too good for these people, and not even an option for pelosi and reid. I like conviction and prison.

Conrad Spiracy| 12.8.10 @ 7:31AM

Yeah, I kinda' like it.

Con Spiracy

EXCELSIOR!

martin j smith| 12.8.10 @ 8:08AM

It is time to throw the class warfare back into Obama's face and and give the American people a choice: Our regrowth or our destruction ? Obama's policies will mean our destruction. And expalin in very simple words how the SPENDING will hurt us very soon !!!!!!!!!!!

Mimi| 12.8.10 @ 8:13AM

Thanks again , Peter for keeping us informed and for doing it these past 2 years.
What the present leadership is doing to this country and to us a free people is downright tragic....all of it against our will!
We need to look into IMPEACHMENT of "THE MINIONS'"....also ASK the Number UNO important question...WHY are you destroying the economy of this NATION on purpose? Those in POWER need to answer...hopfully under oath, and in a public hearing. There is no way they should be allowed to RULE by decree. My God , it.s going to take years to unravel this destruction. I for one , am praying for these NEW and OLD members of CONGRESS!!!

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.8.10 @ 8:21AM

Peter,
Again, thank you for laying it on the line.
Please, Sir, grab a copy of "The Last Centurion" by John Ringo.
It is nothing short of a nightmare of prophecy.

I also want your help. I have written an E-book, and the sequel could really use your expertise....and help our country as more and more people download it.
Contact me at sales@texassaidno.com and I will send you a review copy.
Thank you again for raising awareness of the issues so clearly.

Best regards

daboss| 12.8.10 @ 5:14PM

ken -

i picked up the book on your recommendation and read it twice. it's a great read.

Deborah D | 12.8.10 @ 8:24AM

Whoa!! I was thinking starving their budgets. I didn't realize we could impeach these unelected "officials." I say whatever it takes. This is a war to save the Republic from fascists and totalitarians who don't give a fig what the American people want. The only thing worse than having to fight a war against an enemy outside the country is having to fight a war against the enemy within. Will Republicans have the strength to do it? Perhaps with the new Tea Partiers in their midst they'll find some integrity and class to finally figure out that this is no longer business as usual in Washington, D.C. -- this is a revolution brought on by the Left.

Louis Jenkins| 12.8.10 @ 8:25AM

Another moratorium on drilling, and the closure of coal fired plants buts the dressing on cake. Forget nuclear power plants-Obama hasn't even sneezed in their direction. Without energy this nation will not run. Oil priced out at or above $90 per barrel, and with the closure of coal fired energy plants get ready for brownouts. Doesn't matter what the Kenysian politicians think of next, this nation will continue to down spiral. It runs off of energy, and when you take it away, well, use your imagination. We need to be rid of this Obamanation; two more years.

knock it off| 12.8.10 @ 8:38AM

Oh, it's so easy to blame the government in general, and Obama in particular, for what is wrong with the economy.

The fundamental reason that the American economy is floundering is that the distribution of wealth has become excessively skewed.

Indiana Alex| 12.8.10 @ 9:36AM

Really,

And just whose private property should be distributed to whom?

knock it off| 12.8.10 @ 9:49AM

Yours.

beebop| 12.8.10 @ 3:10PM

See? Its really this kind of knee jerk that is so offensive.

Do you agree that inciting class warfare is a good thing or a bad thing? We used to ASPIRE to wealth in this nation (building it for ourselves that is) and now we DECRY and BULLY those who have achieved it? Is that why my dad served in WWII? If he were alive, I think he'd have a thing or two to say!

idalily| 12.8.10 @ 11:44PM

Well said! What the heck is wrong with being rich? When did that become evil?

Mike| 12.8.10 @ 9:57AM

Knock it off Knock It Off. Do you truly believe that? Really? So if we redistribute wealth all will be better? In your mind who gets to make the decisions on who gets what?

In my mind I am all for wealth redistribution. You see I provide a product or service that someone wants or needs. They voluntarily give me some of their wealth in exchange for that product or service. Their wealth has been redistributed to me and that makes me happy. They have received something they want or need and that makes them happy. Miraculously no government intervention was needed. If I work hard enough and have a good enough product I can redistribute some of my wealth to others to help me make and sell my product, therefore producing even more wealth for me! I will call those people employees. Not only has wealth been redistributed it has been created! Something the government simply cannot do.

The fundamental problem with the economy is that there is an administration that believes in the concept of a command and control economy, a concept that has failed every time it has been tried.

Mike Johnston
SFC USA (RET)

knock it off| 12.8.10 @ 10:07AM

Mike, I suggest you wait for your erection to subside before you post again.

What you don't get is that the billionaires who own 25% of the wealth and receive 25% of the income, have no interest in buying whatever product you are selling. And the rest of the population no longer has the means to buy it. So you are screwed.

Indiana Alex| 12.8.10 @ 11:15AM

Instead of fantasy land, let's take a real world case study. Warren Buffet is a billionaire. He receives very little income. His assets are all in a single company which doesn't pay a dividend, and he pays himself a meager salary.

How do we fillet him?

Mike| 12.8.10 @ 11:16AM

Knock it off

There are about 1000 billionaires in the world today controlling about 4 trillion dollars in wealth. This amounts to about 25% of the 15 trillion dollar GDP of the United States. Of course most of these billionaires are not citizens of the US so it is a bit skewed to compare all of the billionaires’ assets to the United States GDP. Your assertion that the evil billionaires control 25% of the wealth and income is just not true.

But for arguments sake lets go with that. Your hatred of the evil rich has colored your understanding of basic economics. My simplistic explanation was perhaps not clear to you. No billionaires are knocking on my door to buy what I sell. But if you think the billionaires aren't buying things you are misinformed. And they are certainly buying things that, somewhere in the supply chain, make me money.

The rest of the US population controls 75% of the 15 Trillion dollar economy, or about 11 Trillion Dollars. I am willing to compete for that even if the entire world population of billionaires never spends another dime. So you see I am not screwed. You must get out into the arena and compete. If you are unwilling or unable to do that it is not the fault of the mean old billionaires it is your fault.

You have not, of course, answered my question. If it is not the market that decides how to distribute the wealth then who do you feel should be making those decisions? Notice I managed to write this without an ad hominem attack. For an erection lasting more than four hours…

Mike Johnston
SFC USA (RET)

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.8.10 @ 12:08PM

Sergeant,
Thank you for your service.

THAT WAS FUNNY! GREAT LAST LINE THAT STAINED MY KEYBOARD.

Mike| 12.8.10 @ 12:53PM

Ken

You are welcome sir. I am glad I could bring a smile to your face.

Mike Johnston
SFC USA (RET)

beebop| 12.8.10 @ 3:14PM

I suggest that we redistribute George Soros' money first ... He already manipulated currency in one nation and I would not like to see that happen here.

Rich from Rockaway| 12.10.10 @ 9:22AM

Mike is correct. George Santayana said, "those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." If a command and control economy worked, then: the Soviet Union would still exist, Cuba and North Korea would be shining examples of economic progress and wealth, China's Great leap Forward would have actually been a great leap forward. The difference between the two main socio-ecnomic systems is that one CREATES wealth and grows the "pie" for more to eat from, while the other sees an economy as a Zero Sum, fixed amount and seeks only to divide up that fixed amount "fairly". But no one asks the question, fair according to whom? Would you rather live in a fixed society with little to no growth (Sweden/Finland/Russia/and NOW the US) or a dynamic one where wealth is created, along with all the benefits that go along with it. Many choose the latter. For those who don't, you have nearly the rest of the entire world to move to were you can live out your socialist fantasy. But don't make the same historical mistake here in the U.S. by making US another socialist failure.

George| 12.8.10 @ 11:29AM

What you don't get is that it's the "billionaires" who make the products and hire the people that make them. And yes, "billionaires" do buy products... yachts, expensive cars, big houses etc. Do you think it's other "billionaires" that make these products or poor shmucks like you & me who need a paycheck!?!

John Navratil| 12.8.10 @ 6:20PM

George,

Exactly so. Remember what happened to the domestic yacht building industry the last time a luxury tax was imposed on those evil billionaires? All those American boat builders lost their jobs.

Charles Cassidy| 12.8.10 @ 3:10PM

Hey, knock it off, if we find out where you reside will we be able to take whatever measures we deem necessary to take care of you? Do you already have your millions too?

LeoInTheWoods| 12.9.10 @ 3:20AM

The distribution of wealth becoming "skewed" is a symptom, not a cause. This is what happens when the politicians make the country non-competitive and intentionally move the industrial sector oversease.
Look at LBJ's decision to allow subsidized foreign steel to be dumped on our market at less than production costs, and Clinton's decision to decouple human rights from China's trading status before they got the rights to organize labor and to strike as causes. Before those, the poor in America had the means to lift themselves out of poverty, buy a home and educate their children into better lives by simply getting a job in the industrial sector. Today, the industrial sector is in China, India and the Pacific rim, and our poor have lost their means for economic mobility.
That's the cause for the effect you're noticing.

knock it off| 12.10.10 @ 2:40AM

I'm a lozel, you know?I'm a lozel, you know?I'm a lozel, you know?I'm a lozel, you know?I'm a lozel, you know?I'm a lozel, you know?I'm a lozel, you know?

Petronius| 12.8.10 @ 8:38AM

I have 2 words for these f***ing beltway control freaks: black market.

Redstateboy| 12.8.10 @ 8:43AM

it is discouraging many times to see the wreckage of Hussien, Nazi Pelosi and Harry-the-war-is-lost-Reid have done.. but.... there is Hope! In One Word: "Defund"! We need to hold this new Republican Congress accountable.. This isn't the end of the Tea Party - it's the beginning.

Redstateboy| 12.8.10 @ 8:48AM

All it'll take is just 1 brave and fearless Conservative Republican candidate to speak the Truth and the American people will respond with a Landslide. Drill here, drill now!, 50 Nuke Plants in 50 years, lowering Corp Cap gains to 15%, Freeze current tax rates, a Flat 15% tax for all - scraping IRS, Defunding EPA, HUD, HEW, PBS..
This economy would take off like a Rocket.

ncatty| 12.8.10 @ 9:58AM

You are correct.

knock it off| 12.8.10 @ 10:07AM

No, he's not.

George True| 12.8.10 @ 10:45AM

You do not have a clue what you are talking about, troll. If you think he's incorrect, then state exactly HOW and WHY. You won't, because you can't.

If you are just here to disrupt the exchange of ideas rather than contribute to it in a meaningful way, then go back to PuffHo or wherever you came from.

Redstateboy| 12.8.10 @ 10:48AM

then enlighten me.. how am I incorrect?

knock it off| 12.8.10 @ 10:57AM

The answer to both of you, George and Red-boy, is as plain as the pimples on the noses of your faces. The prescription which Red-boy outlined is just what has been happening for the last 30 years. If you can't see that this has led to economic disaster for 90% if the people in this country, then there is really nothing I can say to open your eyes.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.8.10 @ 11:16AM

Hey "Knock It Off".

How ya' doin?

I am very very sorry.

We don't have the tools to fix stupid here.

Guy, (Gal?) you are in so far over your head here you won't believe it.

Most of us will not spend time with you at all. It would be like arguing with a three year-old.

I am gently taking a moment to explain why you will be mostly ignored once we get your screen name in our memories.

See, every week or so, some stupid wanders in here, (or is hired to wander in here), saying the same stupid stuff you are trying to sell.

I, for perhaps three hundred thousand folks here,
will wish you good luck...then ignore you.
Bye.

knock it off| 12.8.10 @ 11:20AM

And how exactly are your remarks useful?

Oh, now I get it. You are explaining that you choose to ignore anything that you have not already thought of.

Too bad real people don't get to live in such a comfortable land of illusion.

Steve A| 12.8.10 @ 12:23PM

Hey Knock, If we were both in line at the grocery checkout, & you knew I make 300K / Yr & my wallet was laying open on the belt, would you feel entitled to take some of my $$ out of it??

YeloStalyn| 12.8.10 @ 11:48AM

knock it off:
Russia was, at one time, the bread basket of the world. Then they had a revolution because the rich were to rich and the poor too poor. What happened? The government became quite large and powerful, those connected became wealthy, and the farmers chose liberty over life. Russia entered a famine and millions of people died needlessly.

You are correct about something. There has been somethign going on over the last 30 years that has lead to an econmic disaster for so many. What was that event? People getting rich and powerful you say? Why yes! You are right. But hold on for a second there... don't get carried away.
WHO is getting rich and powerful? Is it busines men and women? Some... sure. And sure, some are crooks who are doing what? They are exploiting government ineffeciency and skriting around capitalism. They are stealing... NOT competing. So that marks them off the list of evil capitalists who ruined the system. Then there's politicians. Most of the top 10 richest members over the last however many years have been Democrats... odd, huh? Anyhow... a vast number of politicians go to DC and get wealthy and powerful. They begin to stick their nose into business and regulate and reform and control it. They begin to favor those businesses who didn't want to follow capitalism (the guys we mentioned above). So these guys are the large government regulatory guys who you are trying to claim (you haven't said as much, but your implied defense of them is obvious) are actually attempting to HELP us... but are stopped by the evil capitalist. Thus... it is again NOT capitalists who are ruining the economy but politicians and their crooked friends in SOME businesses (actual singular company entities, not business class as a whole).

The things Red has suggested have not, in fact, been happening over the last 30 years. We have not had a 15% flat tax, we have not had cheap and abundant energy via nuke, we have not gutted the unConstitutional sections of government like Dept. of Ed, SS (isn't it funny how Social Security's intials are SS... like the Nazi soldiers!?), Medicare/Cade, etc. We haven't reduced the penalties of being a business. We haven't allowed people to have true freedom in their lives. We haven't done one damned thing he listed so how the holy flying crap can you say those are the things that caused this mess ? You must either lie or be stupid.

Redstateboy| 12.8.10 @ 12:26PM

I reread what I wrote.. read your comment of it and concluded - you are a sad product of our Liberal infested educational system. You have no idea what you're saying, you should be castrated so as to prevent you from breeding more congentially stupid people such as yourself and you most definitely should be excluded from getting a-n-y-w-h-e-r-e near a voting booth.

knock it off| 12.8.10 @ 3:15PM

Redstateboy, I have determined your real-world identity and you will shortly be hearing from law enforcement regarding those threats you have made against me.

Loshooligan| 12.8.10 @ 4:41PM

Careful Redstateboy....."knock it off" is actually writing from a penal system computer. He is hopeful that you will be arrested and incarcerated with him so that he can show you manly love and affection. But don't worry....he is only prison gay.

idalily| 12.8.10 @ 11:48PM

You're right, Knock. There is nothing you can say. You have made that fact painfully obvious by your insults and attacks and your lack of cogent analysis and intelligent commentary. You could leave and spare both you and us the pain of your inane posts.

knock it off| 12.10.10 @ 2:41AM

I am very very sorry.I am very very sorry.I am very very sorry.I am very very sorry.I am very very sorry.I am very very sorry.I am very very sorry.

George True| 12.9.10 @ 12:14AM

Red: My comment was directed to Knock-off.

Maxwell| 12.8.10 @ 10:43AM

AMEN! And I would just add the budget and size of the federal government set back to what it was before 2000.

Charles| 12.8.10 @ 3:21PM

This is absolutely correct, but is uses "common sense", something this administration has 100% none of.

skedaddle| 12.8.10 @ 8:49AM

"What does it say about their economic policies that we are now seeking to extend unemployment benefits past two years to how long, three years?" I keep reading about this 3 years but the reality is there is a total of 99 weeks max. of benefits and less in some states. Still alot but 3 years is not factual.

Ned| 12.8.10 @ 11:42AM

99 weeks is what we have NOW. "Negotiations" going on now surrounding the tax rate extension for the next two years include more/longer unemployment benefits... while not yet cast in cement, chances are very good that extension to three years (or close to that) will be a reality very soon... assuming the lame duck Demon-crats permit the extension...

Ned| 12.8.10 @ 12:06PM

Highlights of the deal include:

• Bush tax cuts extended for all tax brackets for two years.

• Unemployment benefits extended for 13 months.

• Estate "death" tax maximum rate lowered to 35% (down from 55% for 2011) with an exemption on the first $5 million (up from $1 million for 2011).

• Capital gains tax maximum rate remains 15%. (This is perhaps the most important aspect of the deal for financial markets.)

• AMT "patched" to avoid its hitting over 20 million additional households.

• 1 year reduction of Social Security "payroll tax" of 2%.

• Continuation of certain Obama "stimulus" bill taxes, including for college tuition and equipment purchase write-offs; also expanding the earned income tax credit.

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/12/08/a-hollow-victory

wodiej| 12.8.10 @ 2:41PM

My understanding is that the emergency unemployment benefit extension is for another 13 months for those who have not maxed out the 99 weeks. Once a person hits that, I don't think they get any more. So those who have already been on it 99 weeks I don't think are eligible for any more.

davelnaf| 12.8.10 @ 9:23AM

For obvious reasons Obama is trying to look like a moderate now. But, as far as his czars are concerned, it’s business as usual. When the Bamster came into office he created these positions in order skirt Congress’ authority—a typical power grab instinct of the hard left. At the time this seemed fine with Congressional Democrats, but what about now?

On occasion Obama will preen as a centrist even as his czars do his really dirty work. He apparently believes this game will work for him. It actually proves what a hard core, unrepentant leftist he is. Are dem politicians with a strong survival instinct paying attention? Are they so beholden to the myths about their party that they are afraid to confront Obama? Or, maybe they are complicit in all that he is doing, as in being unindicted co-conspirators?

It’s probably the case that Obama is no longer trusted enough to get re-elected. This distrust will persist over the next two years and it will be fun to watch his media minions trying to spin it or assign blame for it. If dems bet against the distrust Obama has already built up they will lose worse the next time.

Youfamissim| 12.8.10 @ 9:33AM

Pelosi was re-elected as the Minority Leader for a purpose - Pelosi is standing up for Progressives. It will be She, who derails Egobama's attempts to compromise. Egobama can then claim "He Tried." If it weren't for that darned Nancy Pelosi. Pelosi will be blamed while Ego plays the thwarted Unifier in Chief... Placing Nancy in that position is exactly what Egobama wanted. It's all by design. Accept no substitutes...

PzKfw| 12.8.10 @ 9:38AM

Good article, but something seems missing. What about the finance community (federal or commecial) that started this mess? I don't recall anyone. beyond the Countrywide mortgage CEO, being brought to task for the meltdown.

This country has a fundamental problem. Over the last 30 years we have 10 good years of growth and them we celebrate by having the financial system shoot us in the head. Just think of the last 30 years:

1. Black friday when the idiots on wall street let the computers do the trading
2. Dot-com bust, when the idiots on wall street valued every company with "com" in its name to insane levels bound to crash
3. Mortgage meltdown...need I say more?

The government might be the facilitator, but the real threat is our financial industry that in our "modern" age hasn't found a risk it didn't like.

We can vote out the politicians, but they aren't the only enemy. Consider this, if the banks have 3 trillion in reserve, why aren't they lending? They are not here to help the economy rebound, they are all about maximizing shareholder (not customer) value.

YeloStalyn| 12.8.10 @ 12:05PM

That is akin to something I have been considering for some time. Should we even allow public trading? What is it? What good is being sold? What does it mean or do? It speeds the growth of a company that it otherwise may not be able to do. It allows the invenstment class to cause their invenstments to begin growing at insane paces while the working class doesn't have enough invenstment capital to recieve the sort of exponential gains at higher levels. I'm not arguing against capitalistic business and competition. But the stock exchange seems not to help but hinder this process by eliminating competition. Large companies can get larger while small, local companies, can only succeed with actual business success... so long as they are not undercut by the larger. That's not capitalism. A company should not be publicly owned. As conservatives we should believe in private ownership. One company, one person (or at the most, one family as many business are family affairs). What good does it do for everyone when a company is able to squash competition. The shareholders value goes up as the revenue goes up... but it goes up because no one is around to keep the prices competitive. So, unless you are a shareholder of any magnitude, you're SOL. The price rise will most likely overtake the increase in stock value.

Then there's dividends. You now have companies not seeking to satisfy customers, but owners. At this point, they run the risk of exploiting the workforce and/or short-changing the customer base. Neither one of which should happen in a capitalist environment.

Now, don't go getting any ideas. I'm not a socialist or a leftest. I'm a die hard conservative. But these are just things I'm considering and seeing how they truely fit with conservative ideals.

I just think that what you said is probably goign to be overlooked, sadly, because many on the right have a knee-jerk reaction to defend businesses in teh name of capitalism despite the fact that many businesses try to undermine that system for their own personal benifit.

Billy| 12.8.10 @ 3:05PM

But just remember, Countrywide et all could have done absolutely no damage without the Fed and a crooked Congress, without which none of this mess would have been possible. The "evil bankers" simply responded to an open invitation from the government.

YeloStalyn| 12.8.10 @ 3:34PM

Too true. But is the system in which they work truely legit? Can it truely be defended with a defense of capitalism? Dirivitives, short selling, day trading, hedge funds, et al. Are those truely the things of a competitive capitalist market or are they ways to create out of thin air more fiat money (which they wouldn't be able to do if we didn't have fiat money to begin with. Back to the gold standard!!)

Anthony| 12.8.10 @ 9:54AM

This is the very essense of the dangerous insanity that defines liberalism. On some level, even these hardcore Marxists know they are following a flawed economic theory. However, their political ideology trumps reality, common sense, and what is good for America, because it conflicts with their intended world hegemony.
Same with anthropogenic global warming; no amount of evidence to the contrary, plain common sense, and the exposure of this as a monstrous fraud to punish western nations, deters these people. They are full speed ahead. Their arrogance is breathtaking, but for them, it's another ends justify the means.
This is why there is no common ground with these people. This is why there can be no compromise; you cannot compromise with insanity motivated by political fanaticism.
I'm afraid an inevitable showdown is where all this is headed.

jack| 12.8.10 @ 10:02AM

perfect. revolution is the only solution. the Republican deal with Dems on taxes will be a disaster. We now have a lower SS tax and unemployment extended for eternity. There is no way to get rid of these things once passed. There should be no appeasement of the media,socialists,or anit american party

Howard| 12.8.10 @ 9:57AM

A well thought article. I could be persuaded that only an infrastructure type of stimulus, like Ike's highway program is possible. While government projects are inherently costly, I believe that there would be increased public goods stock that could be of value. Upgrading airports, bridges, etc. However, all of the other crap, i.e. cash for clunkers, the stupid work credit, all junk. In fact lefty Paul Krugman would have a $5 Trillion stimulus, sucking up total world wide savings in order to pay teachers $300,000 per year salaries. Total insanity.

Redstateboy| 12.8.10 @ 9:57AM

I can't wait - and I better not have to wait indeffinitely - for the new Congress to pull heads of EPA and HEW for starters before their respective Committees demanding they explain their policies.

martin j smith| 12.8.10 @ 10:34AM

During my lifetime we have had two parties but over time it appeared their differences seem to be unclear to me until the advent of GWB and the big fight over the 2000 election --and then 9/11. Once these events occurred especially 9/11 I would say I decided there was something fundamentally wrong in the Democrat Party espcially with regard our national security. After experiencing GWB for two terms and particularly financial meltdown of 2008 and also the response to the War on Terror, I felt at there was something fundamentally wrong with the leaders of the Republican Party. The came Obama and then came the Tea Party Movement. The advent of these two things simultaneously ( no accident )
clarified for me two things: The extreme danger of the Democrat Left Party and the extreme Danger of the mainstream republican Establishment's failure to respond in a understandable way. So I have concluded that the Tea Party Movement is ( I hope ) to allow the voters who care to have their voice and especially for those who oppose The Left Communist Agenda--imposing it against our will. Te People ( voters ) and that is a MAJORITY OF AMERICAN voters must take matters in their own hands thru their representatvis

voted against carter| 12.8.10 @ 10:42AM

HELLO!!????

Barry is doing this ON PURPOSE!

Can we say Cloward & Piven?

He WANTS the U.S.A. to fail. He is doing EVERYTHING he can to make it happen ASAP.

Oh, and ACTIONS speak louder than words.

Just say'n.

A. C. Santore| 12.8.10 @ 10:58AM

I posted the following on this site back in October. Time has only proven me right:

First, Obama and his community organizing social engineers have no idea about how a real economy works. They see only the pies in the sky of socialism and expanded government control over everything. They are killing jobs because, for them, it's government that creates wealth, not jobs in manufacturing, mining, and agriculture.

Second, Obama and his social engineers have no desire to learn how a real economy works. They already believe that they know it all.

In order to bring about the ideal society they envision (with no understanding of that system, either), they must first wreck, or at least fatally weaken, all of the things that can get in their way -- a strong capitalist economy, democratic institutions, and the moral foundation of the country (or religious, if you prefer).

Then, when there is no hope left for us -- or chaos in the streets - they would replace it with a totalitarian economy, a totalitarian government, and a totalitarian society...

...ruled by them because they know best, you see.

Redstateboy| 12.8.10 @ 10:53AM

things won't change in this country for the better until people can admit that the Democrat Party's political philosophy is flawed. These people are those who live in the failing People's Republics of NY, MI, CA, WA - etc. and the failing cities like: Buffalo, Detriot, LA...

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.8.10 @ 11:34AM

RedStater,
their philophy is not flawed at all. They have moved the ball to our three yard line.

Nothing less than a goal-line stand by us, and a successful two minute offense can save the country I grew up in.
Gird up your loins, fellow Americans. (Uh, that means "pull up your jock", for you Biblical illiterates.)

YeloStalyn| 12.8.10 @ 12:08PM

You're right Ken.
One way or another it IS time to reach down and grab.
The question is will we be grabbing our pair or our ankles?

idalily| 12.8.10 @ 11:52PM

How about we grab their pair instead? Then twist really, really hard. I like that better.

Paevo| 12.8.10 @ 12:10PM

I am so sick of people referring to the strategies of Obama et al as "madness." The whole point is to dramatically increase the number of unemployed in order to inculcate an ever-increasing sense of dependency on government largesse. Once 10-12% unemployment becomes the new normal, the gusto behind the effort to repeal Obamacare and reduce federal spending will sadly become a thing of the past.

Essentially, the rugged individualist spirit characteristic of the America we once knew is being actively and utterly eviscerated.

George S| 12.8.10 @ 12:40PM

Impeach Obama? That may be a possibility. Remember that Clinton was impeached because the Whitewater investigation turned up Monica which, in turn, forced out information that Clinton lied to a federal judge (the basis of the charge). I am sure that Obama's business dealings with Rezko are fair game because federal money was involved with those Chicago housing grants. After all, prosecutor Fitzgerald went out of his way to keep Obama out of the Blogo corruption investigation (why?). Maybe Congress should take another peek and force the president to disclose what he knew and when he knew it.

David| 12.8.10 @ 1:16PM

Whats really likely to happen, will be triggered at the state level and not the Federal.

The EPA will come in and attempt to regulate a state, probably Texas. That state, will tell the EPA to screw off, I think that’s already happening. The EPA will try to shut down a coal fired plant, and the Texas police will then arrest them on the orders of the Governor. This will set off a firestorm of protest from the left, and hearings from the Congress on the right. You will also likely get the state national guard mobilized and a bunch of other Federal officials kicked out of the state.

The results will be a nice constitutional crisis, and will be interesting to watch.

Turnditch| 12.8.10 @ 1:56PM

Very informative article. However, it did increase my angst reading certain parts, but I did get a chuckle on this one:

"Instead what we continue to hear from soon to be former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and the equally brain-dead Joe Biden (both of whom make Sarah Palin sound like a Nobel Prize winner)..."

Priceless Mr. Ferrara, priceless...

mixplix| 12.8.10 @ 5:54PM

Here's a plan, export 20 million illegals and right away there will be a lot of job openings plus less students getting free this and that. Get rid of welfare and the 20 million job vacancy will be filled with x-welfare and we can tax them instead of paying the freight.

John Navratil| 12.8.10 @ 6:35PM

mixplix,

Let's assume you could push a button and the estimated 12 million illegals would all go home (at no cost to the taxpayer). That's 4 percent of the population (6% is we use your number). Do you really think the loss of this many consumers would be without cost? Even if it resulted in full employment, a dubious proposition because if those jobs were previously filled the illegals wouldn't be here, would the expanding economy then experience wage inflation because of the limited available work force in the future? Remember, just a few years ago we had low unemployment AND lots of illegals.

I say this, not to argue against the proposition of getting Americans back to work, and your suggestion to limit disincentives to work (welfare) are fine as far as they go, but rather to suggest that protectionism is not a good solution.

Much better to continue with getting workers out of government jobs and into productive ones. This requires limiting regulation, unequal treatment under the tax code and generally shrinking the government and getting it out of the way of the entrepreneur.

idalily| 12.8.10 @ 11:58PM

This brings up a point that I have long debated with my fellow conservatives. I hate illegal immigration as much as anybody, but for all those who keep saying no to amnesty, what other choice is there? We do not have the money or the resources as a nation to find, process and kick out all the illegals we have here. It just isn't possible. I do not want to reward illegal behavior, which is what amnesty does. But on the other hand, we can't afford to find and send them all back. What other option is there? The way I see it, the only solution is...gulp...amnesty, but after we've put in place true border security. If anyone has a better and WORKABLE idea, please toss it out there. I want something else, but amnesty is the only thing that seems viable, sad to say.

old farmboy| 12.9.10 @ 7:32AM

Take away all incentives to be here illegally. Change the anchor baby law, treat medical problems only to stabilize then sent back to home country and no benefits that rightfully belong only to U.S. citizens.
Fine heavily any employer that intentionally hires illegals.
No work no benefits most will self deport.

John Navratil| 12.9.10 @ 9:00AM

old farmboy,

The self deportation occurs because there is no job. Face it, given a choice of feeding your family in Mexico or in Texas, which would you choose. The benefits are gravy. Heavily fining any employer (protectionism) may get Tyson and Hormel, but it won't touch Susie Homemaker and her house cleaner.

Not to picked on Mexican nationals - if our border were with China, the problem would remain - but the reason we have Mexican laborers is that we haven't figured out how to outsource our house cleaning, lawn care and roofing.

IzeHavitt| 12.9.10 @ 10:43PM

Another tactic to de-incentivize the illegals: Forbid them to send any monies earned here back to Mexico. Did you know that that money is the second largest source of foreign exchange for Mexico, next to it's oil revenue? Perhaps this would force the Mexican government to finally wake up and reform themselves from their socialist idiocy. I have maintained for a long time that the root of the illegal immigrant problem here in the U.S. is the failure of the socialist Mexican government to offer it's people any hope. So they foist their labor problems on us.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 12.8.10 @ 6:43PM

Mr. Ferrara's statement that the deeper the recession the stronger the recovery won't apply in this instance.

There are way too many greedy opportunists in both parties who have no desire to overhaul the federal bureaucracy. That's all that is really needed.

Rick| 12.9.10 @ 5:09PM

I knew the author was living on fantasy land as soon as he spoke of the "25 year boon attributed to reaganomics" ... what a joke.

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