Today’s election is more about America’s Left and Right,
than Democrats and Republicans. And the Left’s worst
blow from it will be its inability to blame Bush for it. This time,
nothing stands between the left and the public’s verdict. Tomorrow
that verdict will be clear. And with it will go the tiresome
posture in which somehow they could be present at problems without
ever being responsible for them.
For a full decade, the Left has been laying every problem
at Bush’s feet. He has been it fail-safe. Like a child’s imaginary
friend, on whom all mischief in the house is blamed, Bush served
the same purpose for the Left. Never was it responsible for
anything, despite often being at the scene of the
accident.
A parent turns a blind eye to the children’s charade,
knowing an imaginary friend allows a child the opportunity to ease
into accepting responsibility. But in the Left’s case, its
make-believe only allowed it to ease out of responsibility. In
life, children grow older; in this instance, only the liberals’
device has grown old.
Apparently the public no longer has a parent’s patience.
To quote, the apostle Paul: “When I was a child, I spake as a
child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I
became a man, I put away childish things.” Here the childish thing
is not being put away, it is being taken away.
With this Tuesday’s unmistakable results, the public
finally will take away the Left’s patented excuse. It will state
unequivocally that it holds the Left and its policies responsible
for much. Not the least of which will be its irresponsibility in
not having solved enough of the problems the nation
faces.
America faces a multitude of problems. It is safe to say
that, in the public’s mind, there are at least as many as when Bush
left office — many feel there are even more. In the public’s
opinion, the task now lies in solving these, regardless of when
they occurred.
Even those problems, which the public attributed to Bush,
they are no longer willing to absolve the Left from addressing. If
you offer your policies as solutions, then the public expects you
to shoulder the responsibility of doing the job — not simply
assigning the blame.
Just as when a plumber is called to fix a flooded
basement, the homeowners quickly tire of explanations as to why the
basement is flooded. They just want the water gone. And if it
isn’t, they call another plumber. America is making that call
today.
America has now made it clear that its patience with
excuses without results is over. The “blame Bush” ploy no longer
works. Simply not being Bush is no longer sufficient
qualification.
Conservatives should take this lesson to heart as well.
The public has started the clock on them today. In accelerating
succession, Democrats held the House for four decades, Republicans
then held it for just over one, and Democrats now have held it for
just two terms. There is no reason to believe the public will be
any more generous to the Right with its patience, than it was to
the Left.
Despite the Left’s continued attempts to remake it into an
intent-oriented society, America is still a results-oriented one.
There is no better evidence than this that America remains at its
core a conservative nation.
The Left is intent-oriented. For the Left, what motivates
is what matters — not what actually comes from it. What motivates
an action is what determines their perception of it. For the Left,
it is not simply enough to have accomplished a task, it must have
been inspired by adherence to its principles.
The reason is simple: The Left’s principles do not work in
practice. So the last thing the Left is willing to do, is to have
them measured by its results. Instead, it must be measured by
intent.
The Right is just the opposite. It is results-oriented.
The reason is equally simple: its principles do work in practice.
So if an undertaking is measured by outcomes, the Right is
confident that, if its principles were applied, the action will
have been successful.
This fundamental difference between the Left and Right
explains why blaming Bush has been so important to liberals. And so
overused. Unable to succeed in practice, they inherently, and
eternally, need an excuse.
After today, the Left will have to come up with a new
excuse for its inability to solve problems. Even better yet, as
America is making clear today, it will have to come up with
solutions — or make room for someone who has them.
Yosemeti Sam| 11.2.10 @ 6:52AM
" ... There is no reason to believe the public
will be any more generous to the Right with
its patience, than it was to the Left...."
So, the electorate who on 11-02-10 will jump
out of the Fire - will, if that don't work
out to their satisfaction, fancy jumping back
into the Fire?
Hmmmm.
Ted Z.| 11.2.10 @ 9:43AM
The city by the bay celebrates today!
Go, Giants, go!
Jeremiah| 11.2.10 @ 12:31PM
No, Yosemite, we will gear up for primaries to toss recalcitrant Republicans into the fire. If it's bad enough, we will go third party.
We are done letting the 'bosses' tell us what is possible to us. No longer will we support a liberal Republican because 'he's the only one who can win.' What you fail to understand is that we are no longer jumping to their tune. They will jump to ours or they will be retired.
So, no, we will not jump back into the fire...but we may well toss quite a few more leftist self-promoters into that fire - and a whole party along with them if that party doesn't get a clue.
Alan Brooks| 11.2.10 @ 3:41PM
You are all forgetting that the son of Reagan's failed veep is releasing his disingenuous, overpriced, memoirs this month:
"...it's them lib'rals fault- and-what-I-would-have-done-if-only-I-had-been-allowed-to-do-what-I-had-to-do-if-only-I-had..."
Maybe the left is more incompetent, but you are more dishonest.
Pete| 11.2.10 @ 5:35PM
I am sure it is a better read that what Osama will come out with then he is finally kicked out. "The world was not ready for how great I am" will almost certainly be the them if not the title.
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 8:09PM
Hey, at least we write our own books pal. Who wrote Obama's. Certainly, not him. (see William Ayers)
Tomas| 11.2.10 @ 9:00PM
Let's see, Alan. A little history for you ( I know you're allergic to facts).
The 110th and 111th Congress (House) were controlled by - wait for it - the Domocrats! From 2007 to 2011 they have been the party which has made the law and set the financial direction of the country (remember, the House writes the Budget).
Get your hanky out, Alan - you've just sneezed on the truth.
-
Charie| 11.4.10 @ 5:36PM
Holy moly Alan. You got your hands on the book already? You must be a close friend of the son of Reagan's failed veep. Wow. I'm impressed.
Dya figger the buk wuz over[price more than Willie Clanton's? Or his missusus wuz? Taint the way I heered ut. Jist wondrin iffen yer wunna them peeple whut kin see inta the footoor so ya kin see whuts in Ws buk. Amazun.
Alan Brooks| 11.2.10 @ 10:57PM
"Bush's "Decision Points," is due in bookstores on Nov. 9 from Crown Publishers. The New York Times obtained an advance copy and reported on the book on its website Tuesday night.
The book is not a conventional memoir, but rather a reflection by Bush on important decisions and moments in his life, including the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and the war in Iraq. But it is traditional in the sense that Bush defends his presidency, including his decisions to lead a multinational coalition into war in Iraq and to authorize the use of harsh interrogation techniques on captured terrorist suspects.
Bush also expresses regret for his sluggish response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005, for agreeing to reduce troop levels in Iraq after the initial invasion in 2003 and for nominating his friend, attorney Harriet Miers, to the Supreme Court.
He writes about having "a sickening feeling" upon learning there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and says "cutting troop levels too quickly was the most important failure of execution in the war."
Bush also recounts the pressure he felt from Cheney to pardon I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's former chief of staff. Libby was convicted of lying about his role in the case of the leaked identity of a CIA operative Valerie Plame.
Of Cheney, Bush said that while his vice president had helped with important parts of the Republican base, he had become a magnet for criticism from the media and the political left. "He was seen as dark and heartless, the Darth Vader of the administration," Bush wrote."
PALAVEROUS WASTE OF PAPER.
(BTW, re Libby: why would a middle-aged man call himself "scooter"?)
LoserfromtheLeft| 11.3.10 @ 2:41AM
What a waste of opinion space. Do you have the Times wipe your poo-poo up too? Would you expect the Times to say anything good about Bush? What a silly little fellow you are. Happy to have you on Their side.
Alan Brooks| 11.4.10 @ 2:37PM
I'm a liberal loser.
JF| 11.4.10 @ 9:07PM
Ya got that right!
Charie| 11.4.10 @ 5:40PM
Everyone else calls him "Scooter". He refers to himself as "I".
Oh yeah, I always go to the NY Times for an unbiased view on things. Bwahahahahahaha!
jmbier| 11.2.10 @ 7:35AM
Thank God for the Tea Party and all those who took such abuse from the Dem, the President, and most of the MSM. Go Conservatives!!
RCV| 11.2.10 @ 12:25PM
Yes, please, go.
Margie| 11.2.10 @ 1:10PM
Yes, we are going.. to the voting booths today!
All Hail The Stupid Party!| 11.2.10 @ 2:01PM
RCV (Real Corny Vegetable), AS is a conservative site. You, RCV are a leftist. As the old skit on Sesame Street went, "which one these things is not like the others?". I hope Sesame Street is up to your level of understanding. Go spread your left wing crap somewhere else.
RCV| 11.2.10 @ 3:10PM
Ah, but it is here that missionary work is most needed.
skip| 11.2.10 @ 4:14PM
Says the genius who knows what real Christian love is while simutaneously informing one and all how his political party of choice is so superior right and true as that party continues the slaughter of over fifty million innocent American unborn babies 'legally'.
R(etched)
C(ommentary in)
V(oluminous venality)
Margie| 11.2.10 @ 4:30PM
(R)ecalcitrant
(C)ommunist
(V)oter
We don't need no stinkin' conversions to Communism!
John II| 11.2.10 @ 6:13PM
Mais non, Roberto. It is here that you get more interesting posts--admit it.
I am reminded of a Tom Wolfe gag, which I herewith steal, slightly modified: Reading lefty sites is like being locked up in a Pullman car in the dead of a sweltering summer traveling through the southeast between Athens, Georgia, and Columbia, South Carolina, with no one for company except Professor Obama sitting across from you and expounding non-stop on his derivative political philosophy and his unique importance to the project of making America better.
And now back to The Three Stooges, as I listen to the election returns.
Charie| 11.4.10 @ 5:42PM
"Yes, please go" counts as missionary work?
Changed a lot since I was a kid.
skip| 11.2.10 @ 2:10PM
R(eprobate who)
C(ontradicts)
V(irtue)
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 8:10PM
On to victory! ;)
Alan Brooks| 11.2.10 @ 10:59PM
"RCV| 11.2.10 @ 12:25PM
Yes, please, go."
They're not even conservatives-- they don't conserve much. They are Rightists- most of 'em.
Arkansaw Traveler| 11.2.10 @ 7:48AM
Clinton was replaced as govenor by Republicans.
After they proved as corrupt as he, he was reelected.
JmsA| 11.3.10 @ 2:33AM
Are you implying that Arkansans only vote for crooks?
D-Man| 11.2.10 @ 8:39AM
I sincerely hope the GOP realizes that if it fails to at the very least put forth a hard fight to reverse the economy, repeal healthcare, and reduce spending, they will cease to exist as a viable party. The tea-partiers and independants will no longer have any use for the GOP and a 3rd party will then arise to take its place. For the good of the nation as well as the party, the GOP needs to put conservative principles into practice. This might very well be the GOP's last chance. Let's hope that they don't blow it.
Redstateboy| 11.2.10 @ 9:10AM
Well stated..
canuckistani| 11.2.10 @ 10:03AM
They'll blow it because the American people are pissed off - with all of them.
The danger for the GOP is that they articulated nothing during the campaign, and if their legislative agenda pales in comparison to their rhetoric, it is back to the dems the next cycle.
BHO will have more jobs, an intransigent congress "holding the American people back", and reckless TPers to stir the pot. The internal battle for the party will begin about January 5th when early toe-waders make their candidacies known.
The MSM is still the MSM, and if the newbies don't engage, their narrative will be controlled by the MSM. Even FNC will have to challenge from time to time.
Remember, Junior was the worst steward in history and the country's venom has now been successfully directed at BHO, who's record of legislative achievement is remarkable (banking, credit card, student loans, veterans affairs, treaty enactment, consumer protections, putting BP's feet to the fire), and who's policies have really not damaged the country any where near the right wing rhetoric claims he has. As his programs come on line, he can resume controlling the message.
I will not vote for him, but to deny he has made strides on the very platform he campaigned and won on will eventually sink in to voters when the economy improves at the kitchen table level.
Repealing any populist legislation in the first year would be catastrophic for the GOP. The people don't want them to, and reading their anger into anything other than unfocused ire is a mistake.
Line-item veto (with earmark embargoes), tax-cut continuance and closing tax loopholes for outsourcers should be the only items up for consideration on the domestic front. Simple, concise, easily sellable to the skeptic voter.
Doctor Right| 11.2.10 @ 10:26AM
"Remember, Junior was the worst steward in history and the country's venom has now been successfully directed at BHO, who's record of legislative achievement is remarkable."
You do realize that idiotic posts like that give you ZERO credibility, right?
As a Canadian follower of the "religion of peace", we recognize that you have a severe knowledge deficit, but please, go sell crazy someplace else...We're all stocked up here.
And by the way, regarding this colossal jewel of steaming ignorance:
"Repealing any populist legislation in the first year would be catastrophic for the GOP. The people don't want them to..."
Wrong. That's EXACTLY why they're being sent to D.C., genius.
skip| 11.2.10 @ 11:18AM
How can you be interested and engaged to such an extent that you opine in significant quantity, but in such low quality?
Good grief.
More like Retardistani.
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 8:16PM
I agree. What we want is less government. And not just Obamacare. In fact, I want the Republicans to repeal as much looney-leftwing-legislation as they can from now on back to at least the 1930's, preferrably to the early 1900's. Let that be their job from now until they retire, one way or another. The left of this country have aggressively pursued their agenda for generations, it's time we did the same. Slash and burn the size, scope and power of the government at every level.
Grzmlyk| 11.2.10 @ 1:35PM
Yeah, those tea partiers are egregiously reckless, aren't they? Belief in the constitution, individual rights, limited government, peaceful protest. Dangerous whack jobs one and all.
Those crazy, frothing-at-the-mouth radicals! What's next? They'll declare capitalism good?
All Hail The Stupid Party!| 11.2.10 @ 2:11PM
Hey genius, you conveniently left out that the Democrats with Barack Obama as a U.S. Senator became the majority Party starting January 1, 2007. The GOP spent way too much, but the Democrats & now President Obama have ratcheted up the spending to astronomical levels since the moment "The Won" was coronated in Jan. 2008. Tell the WHOLE story if you're going to point fingers nitwit.
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 8:49PM
"Remember, Junior was the worst steward in history"
You're either a liar, or, just stupid. I'm going with both.
We were at full employment under Bush until the Dims took over Congress in '07. In fact, under Bush, we saw a record setting 52 straight months of job growth, or, 4.3 years without a downturn. That's an irrefutable fact. The Dims take over Congress in '07 and immediately start issuing threats to various CEOs about how they are going to socialize (or, steal) their industries. They then refuse to move on rapidly escalating oil prices by simply lifting the oil drilling ban. Congressional Republicans, led by Bachmann and Co. pressured the Dims to cooperate with them, and lift the ban. The Dims finally relented, but, only after much economic suffering by the rest of us. Oil prices immediatley tanked. Finally, in their infinite economic wisdom, the Dims-and-Rats, thought it'd be a good idea to announce the end of the Bush tax cuts--also, not good for business, jobs, growth.
Do any of these sound like good economic policies? Well, to morons like you, they probably do in the name of "social justice". The problem is that to rational people, it sounds like a recipe for future economic disaster, and so, the market reacted logically. Oh, I should elaborate for the hard of thinking: That means it slowed down. Again, this was the Dims doing, not Bush's.
Regarding your compliments of Obama's "achievements", I should point out that it is his policies that have dug us an even deeper hole than the one the Dims had already begun digging in '07.
Deficit under Bush/Republican Congress:
$161 billion.
Deficit under Bush/Democrat Congress:
$459 billion.
Deficit under Obama/Democrat Congress:
$1.4 trillion in 2009. First year. He's outspent a Dim dominated Congress by over 3 times.
Obama and his accomplices in the Democrat dominated congress created this mess. You idiots on the left own it. Totally. Nice job.
wodiej| 11.2.10 @ 11:34AM
agreed.
as for who they will blame next-Sarah Palin of course.
SPOOFPROOF| 11.2.10 @ 8:53AM
Marxists are propagandists first, foremost, always. Marxists have no authentic political theory with which to argue or convince. Marxists have only propaganda and brute force. Since the so-called cultural revolution of the 1960's, Marxist Democrats in the U.S.A. have, through the Leftist media, systematically stigmatized, demonized and marginalized anything or anyone who appears "conservative." The AFSCME interlocked unionized bureaucracy, the public school and university systems and all the legacy media outlets are staffed with management people who read from the same Marxist playbook. Left is good. Right is bad. Liberal is good. Conservative is bad. The subtle Marxist message of hate is everywhere, all day, every day and has been for a long time. Do We The People have the moxie to rid ourselves of this hateful Marxist scourge? We are about to begin finding out. Don't forget: the Marxists have control of our children in the public school system.
Margie| 11.2.10 @ 1:13PM
"Do We The People have the moxie to rid ourselves of this hateful Marxist scourge?"
Yes we do and YES WE CAN!
John II| 11.2.10 @ 6:28PM
Yes We Can? I think that one's already taken, Marge. I'm hoping for a new mantra from conservatives if they take over Congress in sufficient numbers to make the RINOs play get-along-get-ahead in a different mode.
To socialized medicine and a crooked Justice Department and the coddling of terrorists and the pansification of the military, for starters, how about: Oh No You Don't!
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 8:58PM
"Don't forget: the Marxists have control of our children in the public school system."
Yup. Vouchers to the rescue! Let's destroy the State run school system. You know, the one that teaches children to trust the......State? :0
Actually, it'd be a two-fer, with the teachers unions going down in flames as well!
Doctor Right| 11.2.10 @ 9:16AM
Stop blaming Bush?
Are you kidding??? That, and the false charge of "racism" is all that the Left has anymore.
Put on your "Leftist Thinking Cap" for a moment (I know, it's oxymoronic, but go with it), and here's what they'll say:
"The state of the economy that was left to the new administration by the previous administration of GEORGE W. BUSH was far worse than President Obama and his team of advisors was led to believe. Despite all of his hard work on behalf of the American people, as well as the hard work of Ms. pelosi and Mr. Reid, the American people have bought into the slick marketing campaigns and disinformation, much of it created by former Bush advisors like Karl Rove, and have decided to place the blame for the continuing poor state of the economy on the Democrats' shoulders. The new Republican Congress will make the President's job all that much harder now as they try to turn back the clock and promote the failed policies of the Bush administration that started this entire mess."
You'll be hearing almost these EXACT words soon on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, NYT, etc, etc...
...So please remember that you heard it here first. We narcissists need constant praise.
SPOOFPROOF| 11.2.10 @ 11:15AM
The President of the United States is not a King who rules by Divine Right. The President is an Executive who proposes Legislation that the Congress disposes of as it sees fit. The only one who made things hard on President Obama is (wait for it!) President Obama himself.
Grzmlyk| 11.2.10 @ 2:38PM
Well done, but I'm betting we'll also hear this:
"In one of the most outrageous examples of mischaracterization in recorded history, the Republicans, along with their handmaidens at Fox News, successfully positioned Mr. Obama's demonstrably centrist policies as 'left wing' and 'liberal' to the uneducated and ignorant teabaggers, which fueled the gridlock we are now tragically witnessing - even as children go hungry, women are exploited and minorities are summarily victimized.
As a result of the right-wing misinformation campaign, intransigent, reckless Republicans have been unwilling to put aside their extremist views and reach across the aisle for the good of the country.
Somewhere, at this moment in America, there is a dollar that is not being claimed by government. And that, my comrades, is a tragedy of climate-change proportions".
Margie| 11.2.10 @ 4:57PM
That sounds like the perfect~
Democrat "Get Out The Vote"
Motor Voter Memo To Motorists:
"Somewhere, at this moment in America, there is a dollar that is not being claimed by government."
~Yes, remember that hope..and...change.. you were all waiting for? Keep voting for us and soon there won't BE any middle class Americans anymore. The level playing field has all but arrived. Remember: "The poor you will always have with you?" Well yes indeed that is our goal. We put your tax dollars to work robbing the rich and middle class so that they are no more. Haughty freedom loving Americans who think they can believe in the American Dream must realize there just isn't enough room for them at the table any more..unless they "give all that they have, and follow us."
Government is "God."
The individual is subservient his/her "God."
(But what they don't tell you is that then, once you have given your all.. you are nothing but a useful idiot to them). Because unlike the True God~ there is no reward in Heaven and their "God" doesn't love them. It devours them instead.
Granny3| 11.4.10 @ 7:10PM
ha ha ha ha ha! Yup! We love making children starve to death! Even George Clooney knows better than that and said himself on Bill Maher's TV show that the conservatives were in the Sudan before anyone else.
Too funny!
Louis Jenkins| 11.2.10 @ 9:17AM
I have to agree with the author. The voting public no longer looks to see if the politician is Republican or Democrat, but they are looking to see if they are right or left. The problem is, though, we don't need any more leftists in office. Look around and understand the mess our government is in. It will take a house cleaning, draining the swamp, and then some.
Jobe| 11.2.10 @ 9:20AM
I totally agree! Marxism has failed everywhere. It's failures are overlooked by those so arrogant that they find fault only with those who have implemented this Marxism in the past, not with the political/economic lunacy of the ideology itself.
This level of arrogance will always blind its possessors to the truth. They will always believe in their own rightness and validity. People like Bill Ayres, Barak Obama, Bernadine Dhourn can never admit wrong. They are never at fault. If you don't believe me, look at their writings and their speeches. Never admit fault, never take responsibility, and always blame someone else loudly and long.
Petronius| 11.2.10 @ 9:21AM
The problem is, throwing the liberals out of congress does not remove the legions of overgrown children who elected them last time. They will still be here demanding succor from "mommy" government tomorrow, next week, and next year. Back in 1995 the new Republican congress made a half hearted but really half assed attempt to force them to grow up and the liberal media portrayed them as cruel so they backed down. This time the Republicans must be totally resolute by gutting entitlements to all who are physically fit and mentally capable. The taxpayers cannot afford to keep subsidizing the deficiencies of those who refuse to compete. Should the Republicans drop the ball on this one, then this country is finished.
Bill Young| 11.2.10 @ 10:13AM
This country has always demonstrated the will to come to the rescue to those who experience tragedy in their lives or countries who experience tragedy due to a disaster. But as Paul said... ...those who will not work will not eat..compassion stops at others willingness to be on the take. They need to grow up and accept responsibility.
Anthony| 11.2.10 @ 9:44AM
Expect a few of the D cowards who survive today to quit. Pelosi, who has spent 4 years as Speaker bashing Bush, will be the first. She'll now have plenty of time to read those bills she was too busy to read as Speaker.
Too bad, she needs to be wearing orange more often, not just at Giants games.
But a warning to the R leader who will inherit Pelosi's 747; if you forget us, if you forget the meaning of today, you'll be walking back to your district come 2012. Got it? Don't blow it a 2nd time.
canuckistani| 11.2.10 @ 10:18AM
They will.
Do you not believe taking blood money from Rove and his money ilk have no consequences?
If the new right believes in transparency, they should be first in line proposing comprehensive campaign finance reform. All I have witnessed is a feeble attempt to control the narrative by avoiding the MSM, and refusing to address serious concerns about policy.
We blame Barney Frank for the financial mess, but really it was Phil Gramm and a weak-kneed Clinton that were responsible for setting the table of this centuries' meltdown.
As time goes by, the analysis will show the GOP was the author of the demise of the American financial system, and the erosion of home-owner value that most economists speculate will take 10 years to recover from.
The baby boomers will be busted by then and adult conversations about SS and MC will be required. Conversations the GOP cannot win with today's rhetoric.
My memory's better than yours| 11.2.10 @ 12:27PM
As time goes by, the analysis will show the GOP was the author of the demise of the American financial system, and the erosion of home-owner value that most economists speculate will take 10 years to recover from.
1977 Community Reinvestment Act. That is what began the current demise and erosion you speak of. Democrat majority. Facts and history can be so inconvenient sometimes, can't they?
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 9:18PM
canuckistani is a brain-washed Dim. And like all brain-washed Dims, he refuses to let facts get in the way of his carefully constructed ideology. Bush went to Congress no fewer than 19 times to pursuade them to do something about the then looming financial collapse. He was met with accusations of racism, and fear mongering. That was the best House Dims could come up with to support an irresponsible lending program. You can't argue with pig-headedness like that. You may as well go and argue with a tree.
idalily| 11.2.10 @ 1:39PM
Oh, please. Anyone who thinks one person or one party is entirely to blame for this mess has in intellect as deep as a puddle.
I do think most of the voters are over the whole "it's Bush's fault" argument. But the Liberals will find something else to replace that meme. Whining and blaming others is what they do best, after all.
DRed| 11.2.10 @ 5:19PM
idaily, I think you're pretty much dead right(except for the last sentence-I find that's another bi-partisan attribute). But yes, some of my fellows will keep blaming Bush long into the future. Look at you guys with Carter. the poster above you is blaming the current financial mess on a law passed 33 years ago.
skip| 11.2.10 @ 7:08PM
You and I have been over this. The CRA caused the housing bubble which caused the current economic conditions. Carter enacted CRA in 1977 as he began his presidency. It is a testament to capitalism that it took 33 years but that time frame does not change the truth. Is Christ irrelevant because it has been 2000 years? Is the Constitution irrelevant because it was written over 200 years ago? Eternal truths are just that. Liberalism is wholly lacking in intelligence and wholly lacking in honesty. Thank you for repeatedly proving my statement so effectively.
DRed| 11.2.10 @ 9:54PM
Yes, we've been over it. You just keep repeating the same childishly simplistic, factually unsupported argument and then you call me a liar and an idiot. I'd think it would get tiresome. Why don't you just relax tonight and enjoy your victories?
skip| 11.2.10 @ 10:59PM
Factually unsupported?
Carter didn't push for and enact CRA?
CRA didn't cause housing bubble?
Housing bubble didn't cause current economic conditions?
You are not unintelligent?
You are not dishonest?
You are not hypocritical beyond belief?
How can you sleep?
How can you look in the mirror?
You are an idiot.
Grzmlyk| 11.2.10 @ 3:04PM
I do hope you don't attempt to operate heavy machinery with that brain.
If you hurry now, though, you can get fitted for your Obamanomics jack boots and man the ramparts.
Being multicultural egalitarians, they'll even take Canadian runts like you.
skip| 11.2.10 @ 5:06PM
R(etardistani is)
C(omparable to another unnamed genius poster's)
V(ile venal virulent vacuous vomitus)
canuckistani| 11.4.10 @ 2:39PM
I pull the wings off of flies.
Derek Leaberry| 11.2.10 @ 9:49AM
George W. Bush remains a smug, arrogant smudge on the Republican Party, the conservative movement that he betrayed, and the nation that he misled. He joins Johnson, Nixon and Carter as four of the worst presidents in American history.
Stephanie| 11.2.10 @ 10:54AM
At least he can throw a baseball and get it to the catcher, unlike obama in his mama jeans, throwin' like a girl.
Derek Leaberry| 11.2.10 @ 11:13AM
True. Obama throws like a girl.
canuckistani| 11.2.10 @ 10:56AM
I still do not know why the right keeps getting duped by these corporatist thugs. Romney - job killer, Fiorina - job killer, Raese - job killer, Scott - fraudster.
There should be a litmus test for candidacy that they are patriots even in the face of stacked decks and limp-wristed corporate welfare for foreign interests.
Start here: A defense contractor with over 50% of revenues with the US must be headquartered here.
Subsidized industries like corn, coal and oil must justify job cuts and be barred from lobbying congress on settled programs, or risk losing their tax loopholes.
Foreign companies barred from lobbying congress, and lobby groups forced to divulge their financial sources. Conversely, the criminalizing of elected and appointed reps joining firms that were direct beneficiaries of their legislative work within 5 years of enactment without declaring a conflict of interest.
Nixon was remarkable in his ability to restructure US business with a simple conversation: ask the Kaiser family if their contributions had any effect.
I would be curious to get access to Rubin's and Gramm's correspondence with bankers ahead of the 1999 reforms. Patriots or criminals?
JeffW| 11.2.10 @ 4:38PM
Romney - job killer, Fiorina - job killer, Raese - job killer,
Obama- Nation Killer, Baby Killer, Job Killer, Race relation Killer, US Alliance Killer, Constitution Killer.
You get the idea
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 9:28PM
"There should be a litmus test for candidacy that they are patriots even in the face of stacked decks and limp-wristed corporate welfare for foreign interests."
Oh that's the last thing you'd want. No DemocRat would ever get elected again. You honestly think the Dims don't cater to corporate interests? Ever heard of GE? The head of GE, forgot his name, was and probably still is on Obama's economic advisory board. GE owns around 70 to 80% of this country's green technology. Wow. What a coincidence that the Dims are steering us toward green energy! GE stands to make billions more if we submit to Cap and Trade. No! No corporate favoritism by the Dims shown there!
You, like most Dims are a hypocrite, accusing the Republicans doing what Dims do as a matter of public policy.
canuckistani| 11.4.10 @ 2:40PM
I have no redeeming value as a human.
Get you facts straight| 11.2.10 @ 12:29PM
He joins Johnson, Nixon and Carter as four of the worst presidents in American history.
FIVE worst presidents. You forgot to include Obama.
idalily| 11.2.10 @ 1:42PM
Uh, the Hall of Shame is bigger than that. Sorry. FDR, Woodrow Wilson, Grant, Andrew Johnson...I could go further back if you like.
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 9:36PM
Thank-you. Yes. FDR was one of the biggest abusers of power our country has ever seen--at least until recently. No wonder Obama admires him. FDR effectively stole this country's gold wealth with the illegal Gold Reserve Act of 1934 and turned it over to foreigners. Oops! I'm sorry, I mean the "Federal" Reserve, also known as the World Central Bank. We should dig his body up and hang him. This P.O.S. of a President also used Keynsian economic policies to extend the life of the depression. Yes, let's all learn about how wonderful he was in our public indocrtination centers--most know them as public schools.
Margie| 11.2.10 @ 1:24PM
It always dismays me how some so called conservatives live to puke all over GW and Republicans when they ought to be living to puke all over the Democrat party and those they "offer up."
If the voting populace had always been involved in the political process in this country~ each person doing their civic duty to get out and VOTE for conservatives running in the Republican party~ we would have a better party right now.
But enough said.
Hopefully.
And hopefully those who are just waking up will stay awake and keep being involved.
As for GW.. no comparison can be made between him and ANY Democrat.
Useful idiots who say they are conservative yet all they preach is filth toward decent men ought to consider looking in the mirror sometime.
Occam's Tool| 11.4.10 @ 12:13AM
Ok, I see a little history lesson is in order here. First of all, the worst Presidents in US History were, for the most part, concentrated in the middle of the 19th Century, and, with the exception of Calvin Coolidge, in the 1920s.
Nobody in the last 50 years, even the worst one (Carter, sorry---double digit inflation, losing the Cold War, humiliating America at home and abroad---Obama's bad, but the T-Bonds are not returning 15% yet.) meets down to the standards of James Buchanan, whose incompetence bequeathed to his successor the bloodiest war in US history, both in absolute numbers of dead and in percentage of dead versus the total population. Until Obama has a WMD attack go off on US soil and kill millions, he's not going to match Buchanan. OK? Bush didn't either, etc., etc.
Let's be serious about history for a moment, eh?
After that, there's quite a bit of competition in the 19th Century for 2nd worst President, but the actual 2nd worst was Hoover, who was incompetent in the face of the Great Depression, and, like Obama, thought tax hikes were good for economies.
Grant, Pierce, Millard Fillmore are pretty much in a tie for 3rd worst. All were pretty wretched.
Second place for worst of the 20th Century was probably Jimmy Carter. harding was a fool, but the economy was good. And at least he knew he was a moron. Carter thinks he was a Genius. Nixon comes close behind because of the damage he did to the Presidency due to his incompetent handling of Watergate, and the fact that he would have been convicted if impeached. Johnson destroyed America's willingness to exert appropriate military reach for 20 years, and damaged us in the Cold War, but, unlike Carter, he was an American patriot.
W screwed up many things but also did much that was right. He should not be mentioned in the same league with the classic losers I've outlined. In addition, he was an American patriot, unlike the fellows who came before and after.
Unloess a WMD explodes on American soil, I expect Obama to rank slightly higher than Carter. He was improperly vetted, and his patriotism can be strongly questioned, as he was the first President to strongly deny American Exceptionalism while in office. But Jimmy was more incompetent than Obama.
Actually, for sheer drive and competence, after the Big Three US Presidents (FDR, Lincoln, Washington) must come either James K Polk or Ronnie. Both got the job done, although Polk is the only President to fulfill his goals---ALL OF THEM--- in 4 years, retire from Office respected highly, and save the US taxpayers money by dying quickly afterwards. I like Polk a lot. I think he did a better job than Jackson, but that's just me.
Steve | 11.4.10 @ 11:09AM
I'm a Republican but as I get older I appreciate Grover Cleveland more and more. He was honest, humble, and careful with public money.
Buchanan was easily the worst president ever.
Sheila| 11.2.10 @ 9:56AM
Although I voted for Bush twice, I disagreed with him on many issues. Despite his numerous missteps, however, I cannot feel he is anything but a decent man at heart (misguided, perhaps, but decent). While I cannot forgive his failure to close our border and get control of pseudo-legal immigration after 9/11 when he had the prime opportunity (instead, he increased the number of Muslim immigrants), I will always appreciate his appropriate transition to private citizen. The fickle public has a short memory; because Bush has generally refused to insert himself into post-presidential politics (with the exception of his new book), most voters will have long forgotten him by 2012. Whatever tactics the Democrats employ, it is the voter's responsibility (not the parties', not the press') to educate himself about the candidates and vote responsibly. With the universal franchise and the Motor-Voter law, however, don't count on it. Tribalism + democracy + stupidity = racist idiocracy.
Stephanie| 11.2.10 @ 10:55AM
Ditto, Sheila. Well said.
idalily| 11.2.10 @ 1:46PM
I agree with Stephanie. Well said, Sheila. I would add one thing about Bush, though. Probably Bush's biggest accomplishment (aside from keeping us safe) is the accomplishment everybody forgets: two conservative SCOTUS justices.
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 9:39PM
Yes. We need to replace these leftist activist judges with right-wing judges that will rule according to the Constitution.
conservative gal| 11.2.10 @ 10:08AM
The "healthcare bill", I just heard, has a 38% tax to the feds when you sell your house. What else is in this killer of people, jobs, health care and freedom?
Herb Tarlek| 11.2.10 @ 10:29AM
I heard it was 50 % of the sales price.
DRed| 11.2.10 @ 10:36PM
It's 3.8%. And it only applies to people earning more than 200k a year. And then there are a few other limitations.
Too Many Tims| 11.2.10 @ 10:39AM
The car is in the ditch and drunken Obama is trying to hand the keys back to Bush before the police get there. Nancy is throwing the empty beer bottles into the trees.
Stephanie| 11.2.10 @ 10:56AM
I'd rather my car be in a flippin' ditch than run of a cliff!
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 9:41PM
You mean like in England? Submit woman! To Allah! And me, of course, I'm a man. ;)
Steve G| 11.2.10 @ 11:17AM
"For the Left, it is not simply enough to have accomplished a task, it must have been inspired by adherence to its principles."
I don't agree. Can you name just one principle to which the Left adheres? All they do is oppose what they perceive is a position or principle of the Right. Opposition is not a principle, it is a strategy or tactic.
Simon Templar| 11.2.10 @ 12:03PM
I think the public..particularly the so-called independent voter needs to do some growing up and politically maturing. Stop expecting the Washington elite, parties, and the carreer politicians to solve Americas problems. This is suppose to be a self governing nation...a republic if we are able to keep it. The activism and involvement of the Tea Party is exactly what is needed and the last hope out of this morass. The Washington elite, the Progressive Press, and the Progressive Educational System is not going to roll over without a fight. Expect a response like you have never seen before from them in the next 12 months. This election is only the first shot at Fort Sumnter of a long civil war. STOP focusing on what the Left is going to do..what the Left thinks, what the Left says, and on an on..Start thinking about what Conservatives will do and all concerned Americans who want to save this country before its to late to do so.
Dude| 11.2.10 @ 2:08PM
I couldnt agree more, stop all the finger pointing and focus on what your going to do with your new found power other than tear down the people around you. If you think tax cutting will build back up jobs do it, cut medicare and social security out completely if your anti-socialist. Live what you preach.
John II| 11.2.10 @ 6:31PM
Dude, good idea.
And now back to reruns of LOST.
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 9:47PM
"If you think tax cutting will build back up jobs do it, cut medicare and social security out completely if your anti-socialist. Live what you preach."
I actually agree with you on this. Republicans need to act totally and completely like limited government types that they claim to be. That's why I vote for them. I expect them to be as activist as Democrats are. Cut out the left wing programs that encourage us to be dependant on the government. Do what you were elected to do. SS especially, is just a shell game. Don't want it, don't need it. It's not gonna help anyway.
Perusha| 11.2.10 @ 12:18PM
Who matters?
As that Gilda Radner character used to put it, when confronted with the obvious truth that likely conflicted with her beliefs, “It’s always something.”
Yes, the ongoing Human Comedy MUST always be---something!
In math, there is an always-applicable basic “metric”, which is oh-so-useful, called the Pigeon Hole Principle.
Say there exist x pigeon holes and x pigeons. Each one HAS to go into one of them, only! Just so, wrt all the verbiage, whether written or not, that we each must endure, and if we are so inclined, to process so as to “get the TRUE message”.
Elections are not discrete, in that they ONLY happen every two years, for this and that particular race, but they ARE indeed the essential form and reality of our lives. To be human is to continually---CHOOSE. (Alan Watts wrote of a politician in San Francisco who so despised the left that he refused to make left turns when driving, thus having to make FOUR right turns to go where he wanted to if he needed to go left!)
We VOTE with each choice, especially when deciding what to do with our money = stored wealth = order. Most of us literally “spend” it on---DISORDER! Get “high” on food or drink, other “entertainment”, etc. But, we also DO put enough money to work keeping and creating more NEW order.
But, who matters?
Face it, elites rule the world. Proven winners in whatever field MUST rise to the top---do you want a high school dropout teaching graduate school mathematics?
So, look at the political dimension. Say 40% of eligible voters take the time to cast a ballot in any election. What determines their choices? Who maters?
First, there exist “loser” winners, such as the eminent leaders of the Acorn domain, whose “vote” is multiplied many times over. An honest Joe’s vote is maybe one hundredth of the best of this best vote “getter”.
Next, of the 40% cohort of honest voters, a solid 80% is programmed to vote either for the left or the right, and their vote is basically set for their whole life.
That means that there are at most one out of ten eligible voters at any time who—MATTER.
Then, of course, there exists the punditry elitist, whose “job” is to con as many of the non-elites who depend on them for analysis and information.
Another essential basic filter with which to help arrive at a clear either-or state, that is really useful, is the concept of “at the margin”. The WSJ and bright supply side economists like Arthur Laffer long ago taught us how vital it is to reduce taxes at the margin, so that the NEXT dollar of income is taxed at the lowest possible rate, because that incentivizes work = order.
Just so wrt “at the margin” for politics.
The people who are in the “at the margin” class at any given time MATTER.
They also are the ones who are still malleable.
Therefore, as with practically everything to do with choosing, each one of them = us MUST eventually face the CONVERT OR DIE moment. Shakespeare was spot on: to be or not to be, that IS the question---eternally.
Well, on toady’s intensely vital election day, maybe enough people who MATTER have indeed been confronted with the political “do or die” choice, and we are about to experience a mass---CONVERSION.
Finally, about the American welfare state, especially the use of government to take from the makers and give to the takers, allow me to harken back to some ancient Japanese history.
In the pre-Shogun days, I believe it was, the Japanese islands went through some horrendous war and famine times. Survival was totally dependent on pulling your own weight---they did NOT have the bread and circuses we now “enjoy”
So, if a Samurai warrior came upon a beggar, he instantly removed his head! One can understand how the Bushido code permeated their society, right on down to the present.
Actually, Germans also went through their own dark ages population culling, and only the martially strong survived, and brought about their “cleanliness” habit, as well.
JP| 11.2.10 @ 12:24PM
The Blame Game is as American as apple pie. Heck, Reagan was still blaming Carter in 1984; Clinton blamed Bush for a recession that ended 6 months before Clinton was inaugerated. And Obama will still drop Bush's name in the mud whenever he can get away with it.
The only person who didn't participate in this game was Bush43.
dude| 11.2.10 @ 2:06PM
Bush did lie about Iraq, he did take away American's rights by passing The Patriot Act. I think we can stop blaming him, once we are out of this war on terrorism which cost us billions of dollars and really helped this country dive into a big huge hole of debt.
Grzmlyk| 11.2.10 @ 3:32PM
Entitlement spendng DWARFS the costs related to "Bush's" wars.
Besides, now that our turd in chief is at the helm, the wars are all good, right?
Paul from SA| 11.2.10 @ 3:58PM
Lied about what?
John II| 11.2.10 @ 6:36PM
Dude, what about Patriot Bonds? Professor Obama's treasury never got rid of them. In fact, I can still buy 'em. You buy a baby-bond today and cash in a papa-bond 17 years from now, or a mama-bond 10 years from now. Hell, the Professor didn't even alter the terms of the agreement, let along the name of the baby-bond.
Your hero the Professor lied, and many lefties died.
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 9:55PM
I don't know. Killing tens of thousands of muslim terrorist assholes seems like a good expenditure to me! They wanted to fight us, good. Let's fight in their neighborhood and wreck all their shit. It's a win/win for us.
Best video of the war:
U.S. soldier 1: Hey! This one's faking! (death, muslim asshole)
U.S. soldier 2: Bam!Bam! (sound of gun) He ain't faking anymore!
And THAT was aired with the goal of horrifying us soft, gentle Americans. Had the opposite effect on me. Kick their muslim ass!
Pat| 11.2.10 @ 2:37PM
The “idealism” versus “realism” debate, an emotional dichotomy as American as apple pie and Hollywood “slasher” movies – the swinging pendulum, not the eagle, should be our national symbol. Since the days of FDR and the New Deal, Democrats have been sold on “idealism”, Republicans supposedly believe in “realism”. Whenever economic prosperity pushes a few green shoots above the snow, Americans swing toward idealism, helping the common man, watching out for the little guy, fixing our social problems, real or imagined, once we have a few extra bucks in our pockets.
Amazingly, Americans never notice the political process remains the same whichever party is in power. Government at every level takes your money and gives it someone else – that’s what every government does, that’s all they ever do. But this time it will be different somehow, right? So now the idealism hat will be flung into the closet for a short while, it’s time to “get real” and introduce a little “good” government into the national process.
Democrats will stubbornly insist that “idealism” is actually “realism”, taking your money, giving it to someone else is the best way to help you personally – or so they tell us. A much loved tune is that argument, an “oldie but goodie” and one which Americans never grow tired of hearing, apparently.
“Give Me That Old Time Gridlock” is the song we will be singing after this election and for the next 2 years when it comes to our beloved Federal government. But Americans will quickly grow tired of legislative gridlock and conveniently forget they despise those who would confiscate our personal wealth and distribute it to others in the perpetual service of idealism. That old urge, those same familiar yearnings will re-emerge in the future. We must secretly enjoy feeling the government’s foot planted firmly on our necks and, seemingly, within the blink of an eye our political pendulum will do another of its famous swings.
mames| 11.2.10 @ 3:05PM
Bush and the RINOs deserve blame for opening the socialist doors for Obama. Without Bush setting the stage for campaign finance reform, no child left behind, excessive spending, auto bail out and Tarp it would not have been so easy for the big O to take things to the next logical level.
Bush took the "middle of the road" and now neither side wants anything to do with him. May we be saved from socialists in both parties.
rainmaker1145| 11.2.10 @ 3:07PM
It's Rush Limbaugh's fault...
It's Jeb Bush's fault...
Don't forget Dick Cheney and Halliburton!
And... Stupid Americans! We aren't smart enough to appreciate people who steal from us and constantly lie about it!
God! Blame God too! Get those Christians! oooooh! That's it! Blame the Christians!
You can bet they will blame everyone but themselves for what they did and that's why we can never, ever, ever, never, never let them back in power again. We need to do it better, more openly, more honestly and more constructively than they could ever dream about. Our worst day must be better than their best day as they have the courts, the media and the desperate gambits of potentates and tyrants pulling for them at all times.
Bail Jumper| 11.2.10 @ 3:39PM
No, no, how dare you!!! Obama does NOT throw like a girl. He throws like a sugar plum fairy.
Alan Brooks| 11.2.10 @ 4:00PM
If only Reagan could come back to life so we could apologize to him for the Bush dynasty having squandering his legacy.
Paul from SA| 11.2.10 @ 4:01PM
They will blame everybody who disagrees:
honest Americans
conservatives
Republicans
millitary personnel
Christians
Individuals:
The most popular conservative
The next GOP prez candidate(s)
John (who?) Boehner
Rush
Sarah
Alan Brooks| 11.2.10 @ 4:01PM
Oops:
If only Reagan could come back to life so we could apologize to him for the Bush dynasty having SQUANDERED his legacy.
Bush=Bungler
Tim Martil| 11.2.10 @ 4:07PM
I am officially now a 'former'Democrat. My grandparents are probably rolling over in their graves but after many many years I finally realized just how far removed from my principles and the principles of our founding fathers this party has strayed. It's a tough thing to come to the realization that for the last couple of elections I was voting for the people associated with positions I detest. Old habits die hard.
vtwin| 11.2.10 @ 4:50PM
I bet my Sportster that you teabaggers are gonna lose big time tonite. the polls may tell you one thing but the People will speak loud and clear.
Obama Rules! really it would be a disaster should you guys win this one but i'm quite confident common sense will prevail.
vtwin| 11.2.10 @ 4:56PM
and I'll keep blaming junior because he lied and aids patients died. i'm really mad as hell,i think i'm gonna smash the damn radio thru the window
John II| 11.2.10 @ 6:41PM
The Professor plied his many manures, and many more Demos cried when they lost their sinecures.
Damn. I should have been a poet. You inspire me, Twitty.
Granny3| 11.4.10 @ 7:19PM
This IS sarcasm, isn't it? Otherwise, it's extremely weird.
Perusha| 11.2.10 @ 6:15PM
The "great" Missouri Compromise was the last try to avoid a civil war, but the division of the country over slavery was an either-or that could NOT be negotiated away.
Just so, NOW---America has slipped into economic semi-slavery, on its way to irredemiable full slavery, led by the left wing plantation field generals.
So, the essence of the Tea Party message is quite simply one of an ABSOLUTE principle. Follow the written Constitution.
Once the political dust settles, expect the Democrats and their masters in the MSM (Yes, the opinion MAKERS in the MSM are the true creators and string pullers of their puppets in government) to harp on whether the new Conservative members in Congress will be willing to compromise.
Negotiate, after all---that's what lawyers DO!
However, what is the compromise between believing murder is good and that it is bad? What about theft?
Actually, the federal government has veritably grown to its almost majority status basically BECAUSE of the urge to always COMPROMISE.
If the newbies don't stick to their guns and the inevitable daily onslaught of questions by MSM leaders wears them down, probably the last chance to keep the American freedom train alive will be gone.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!"
Barry Goldwater lives!
The frantic leftist elites will certainly be in attack mode, and I predict that if/when a Rubio and a Palin stick to their Constitution "principles", the people like Couric and her friends will more and more claim that these patriots are---EXTREMISTS!
NOW, also because they are so totally convinced of their own assumed middle-of-the-road beliefs, such people are worse than a Forrest Gump.
He KNEW he was "slow", but these hard core leftists are the best examples of SLOW LEARNERS on the planet.
There's almost nothing worse than a deluded fool, who's so locked and loaded in their stupid beliefs!
It has to come to an earthshattering point, before such True Believers are so chastened to reach the requisite epiphany.
Read Arthur Koestler's "Darkness at Noon", and consider all the people of his type who were forced to repudiate communism.
Our own "communists" have a long way to go!!!
JohnKerry| 11.2.10 @ 6:18PM
I hate to tell you this but aids patients died because they contracted a disease thru unsafe sex practices, not because of anything Bush did. As Obamas pastor might say . . . the chickens have come home to roooooost.
jstwndring| 11.2.10 @ 10:08PM
Again, you people insist on confusing Dims with the truth. When will you finally learn that aids, Katrina, the hurricanes that hit Florida in '04, oil prices, the paint peeling on your window sills, the Rangers losing to the Giants, it's all Bush's fault? He sits at home twisting his mustache, scheming of more ways to screw us! An evil genius he is!
John Bailo | 11.2.10 @ 6:45PM
This election is a referendum on Bush. The more Obama strays from Bush, the more the people pull him back to Bush. Bush set the standard for what a 21st century President should be and do. Be Bush, or be booted.
Heywood| 11.2.10 @ 8:11PM
The Republican's better do 2 things--kill Obamacare and cut spending. Simple!
And I don't mean cut the amount they've planned on increasing the budget.
vtwin| 11.2.10 @ 10:37PM
I can't believe this shit is actually happening
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS| 11.2.10 @ 11:02PM
You mean to tell readers here you didn't know anal sex with the men in your life would give you aids?
vtwin| 11.2.10 @ 11:12PM
shut up you teabagging bastard!!!!
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS| 11.3.10 @ 12:08AM
You'd a got rectal cancer or some other hideous affliction anyway, this one is quicker.
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS| 11.3.10 @ 12:10AM
Ah, the tea thing, what, those swingin' 'nads knocked out a couple teeth?
Sam H| 11.3.10 @ 1:54AM
Mr. Brooks,
Harsh interrogation techniques? Upon Islamic terrorists? Oh my Mr. Brooks...whatever shall we do?
Putting them against a wall and shooting them after extracting vital intel comes to mind.
No WMD? In Iraq? Now that is funny Mr. Brooks. Perhaps you and Mr. Assange can discuss his latest postings between sips of your latte.