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Political Hay
Duped in Seattle
The surreal world of “Baghdad Jim” McDermott.
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Prosecutors said they had “no information whatsoever” that the three Congressmen were aware that the trip was underwritten by Saddam’s henchmen. “Obviously, we didn’t know it at the time,” explained McDermott. “The trip was to see the plight of the Iraqi children. That’s the only reason we went.”
McDermott’s spokesman said the congressman had been invited to Iraq by a Seattle “church group,” and had been unaware of Iraqi funding.
What’s fascinating about this from my perspective, and historically, is that it’s a rare case of War on Terror duping that bears a strict resemblance to Cold War duping. What I mean by that is this:
During the Cold War, communists, from Moscow to New York, excelled at carefully manipulating liberals and progressives, prompting these dupes to say and do some really dumb things. These things served the interests of our adversaries, namely, the Soviet Union and international communism. To the contrary, during the War on Terror, when a Ted Kennedy, a John Kerry, a Dick Durbin, a Harry Reid, a Pete Stark, a Jimmy Carter, a Maxine Waters, a Barbara Lee, a John Murtha, a Barack Obama, an Al Gore, or some other liberal, said something really dumb that served the interests of our adversaries, it was rarely (if ever) prompted by those adversaries. Typically, they uttered some irresponsibly outrageous inanity because they couldn’t control their boiling rage at George W. Bush. The enemy, whether Saddam, Ahmadinejad, Osama Bin Laden, or Al-Qaeda, no doubt thrilled in these statements, but they didn’t carefully prompt the statements.
What’s so striking about the Baghdad Jim example, however, is that here was a rare War on Terror case where the statements were triggered, at least in part, through attempted manipulation by the enemy, to the point that Saddam and friends rolled out the red carpet — and opened the TV studios. In other words, the McDermott case sets a precedent for modern-day dupery. In a sane world, or, more specifically, a sane congressional district, voters would be so embarrassed by such actions that they wouldn’t reelect their congressman.
Alas, apparently, Washington’s 7th district functions amid some other plane of existence. Jim McDermott is safe, no longer ensconced by the cold embrace of a dead Saddam Hussein but by the warm, open arms of Seattle’s progressives.
About the Author
Paul Kengor is professor of political science and executive director of The Center for Vision & Values at Grove City College. He is author of the new book The Communist: Frank Marshall Davis, The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mentor. His other books include The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism and Dupes: How America’s Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century.
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drudge ette obama| 10.28.10 @ 6:19AM
How's his strange secretary doing? What's her name? Liz! How are you doing LIZ.
The Pacific Northwest is beautiful, but inhabited by some odd characters, probably relatives of deranged gold miners.
Ned | 10.29.10 @ 3:26PM
you oughta try living here... when it's nice, it's the most beautiful place in the world. and then there's the other nine months of the year.
as far as politics is concerned, Washington is actually a very conservative state - lots of farmers and agri-business on the east side of the mountains... and then there's King County. Unfortunately for everyone else, Seattle is large enough - engorged as it is with whackos and Microsoft millionaires - that they outvote anyone with any sense. And, if they can't outvote them, they bring in their ACORN buddies and cheat. In 2000, there were EIGHT felony convictions for tampering here, but ACORN itself was let of the hook. Our present Governette, Princess Chris lost her election twice, but in true corrupt Dim style, they kept counting until they "discovered" enough votes "misplaced" to squeak her in... just a warm up for Al Frankenstein's "election".
Every insane, hairy-eyeball pinko idea imaginable is manna for these nutbags. Baghdad Jim is only one shining example. Another is the current Mayor, who is a big pal of the psycho bicycle lobby (No, riding a bike doesn't mean you're a psycho. Insisting on your "right" to ride it up(hill) the middle of 5th Ave at 5:00 in Friday rush hour traffic DOES, however.) - well, maybe not quite such a good pal since they learned that he doesn't *actually* ride his bike to work and events. He gets picked up in a Lincoln Navigator by his bodyguard, and is dropped off out of sight (and uphill from) of where ever he's appearing.
Just read down to Melvin's earlier post - ditto to all that...
Melvin| 10.28.10 @ 7:29AM
After being born and raised in the Pacific Northwest, believe it or not used to be Conservative. Portland was Liberal, but manageable with varying degrees of sanity.
But that all changed with Microsoft, Intel, Starbucks and Nike.
As a young kid Intel started in what could be considered a warehouse and Nike in a garage in Aloha, and Starbucks in an old Airstream trailer parked a parking lot. Microsoft chose Redmond to spread it's cancer.
Once these companies exploded during the dotcom boom every Liberal, Leftist, Socialist, deviant fruit cake migrated up from California in a mass migration worthy of Ellis Island.
Literally overnight the happy medium that Liberals and Conservatives changed. Private farms advertising sex with farm animals., and Portland began to be a pedophile paradise. Pedophiles have openly admitted that Portland is the center of the universe for deviancy.
So I guess Baghdad Jim might be considered tame by Pacific Northwest standards.
The Pacific Northwest is allot like San Francisco on steriods but without no rules. I continue to follow the activities of the land of my birth and am amazed that people can do anything because with typical Liberal dogma communities have went berserk with legislation and regulations. What Conservatives who still reside there are painted as Overall wearing, barefoot, toothless illiterate hayseeds. I used to say, "inbred" hayseeds but inbreeding in the Seattle burbs is considered normal behavior now, so the moniker of, "Inbred" had to be removed when a Liberal describes a Conservative.
I have to admit that damn area is some of the most beautiful on earth, but unfortunately the elitists and circus freaks have taken over, and driven out the Conservatives to the wastelands of Eastern Oregon and Washington.
The old place can be all that bad after all the Bhagwan Rajneesh decided to set up shop there, and I know most of you do remember the Bhagwan?
Pauly| 10.28.10 @ 9:41AM
Hey, Mt. Rainier in Seattle and Mt. Hood near Portland might blow soon and wipe these problems off the map.
Here's to cosmic justice.
russel| 10.28.10 @ 9:53AM
Interesting to a guy born and raised in the heartland of conservatism . You should write a book and explain in detail why those are what they are . I'd expect wealthy elites who are bored with the mundane of everyday life and seek something with more spice , as it were . No wonder they'd find a Palin or Bush as distasteful as as dried bread .
ncatty| 10.28.10 @ 9:54AM
We bagged the Bhagwan in Charlotte.
P. Aaron| 10.28.10 @ 7:33AM
McDemott still owes Boehner several hundred thousand dollars for publicizing a unlawfully taped conversation. A case McDermott lost in court.
JFGalt| 10.28.10 @ 8:01AM
I'm sorry to say but did McDermitt turn out to be right about Bush and Iraq granted his motivations were probably not the best. I'm no fan or McDermitt and I am no fan of Bush or his idiotic mismanagement of this nation and its resources in particular of our military personnel so crucifying McDermitt for being right about Iraq seems to be not right. Most of the world knew we were on the wrong path. We can blame stupid liberals for all the problems in the world although we can lay quite a pile of them at their feet.
saddam| 10.28.10 @ 8:23AM
except for this...taking me at my word would have meant i HAD the weapons...for that was my claim to the UN.
how convenient that the useful idiots forget to report that part of the story.
Doctor Right| 10.28.10 @ 8:40AM
"Most of the world knew we were on the wrong path."
Rubbish, for many reasons!
First of all, please define "Most of the world". Does that include the Arab-Muslim world? The Russians? The Chinese? Or any other nation that had a vested (and dirty) interest in NOT having Saddam overthrown?
Or does it include all of those nations that joined us in liberating Iraq? (U.K., Australia, Poland, Denmark, Italy, Georgia, Ukraine, Netherlands, Spain, Czech Republic, South Korea, Japan, Thailand, the Philippines, etc?).
Or does it include 10 years worth of UN Resolutions aimed directly at stopping Saddam Hussein's WMD program, including the support of the Security Council??
Please...gather some facts before you make silly posts. And do yourself a favor - stop buying into liberal drivel.
Mike W| 10.28.10 @ 9:40AM
"Or does it include 10 years worth of UN Resolutions aimed directly at stopping Saddam Hussein's WMD program, including the support of the Security Council??"
Talk about silly . Israel has defied at least 65 UN resolution. That shows you how much the UN means. Do your research before posting.
And, outside of the UK forces the "Coalition of the Willing" made up more than 5 percent of forces in Iraq. Those 55 troops the Japanese sent were a real big help.
Doctor Right| 10.28.10 @ 10:18AM
Nice try.
Comparing sanctions levied against Israel (which the US NEVER voted for) with sanctions against Iraq (which were passed by the Security Council) is stupid.
Additionally, you've missed the point entirely: The premise put forth was that "everyone knew it was a mistake". I proved that premise false by pointing out how many nations have contributed to the effort, regardless of how many troops they committed.
After all, if they "knew it was a mistake", why would they send anybody???
I did my research. It's NOT about research, it's about common sense.
And you don't seem to have much.
Occam's Tool| 10.28.10 @ 11:53AM
McDermott is an embarrassment to psychiatrists everywhere. Some Shrinks, believe it or not, are Conservatives.
Mike W| 10.28.10 @ 9:26AM
As Republicans we shouldn't go around reminding people that we started the Iraq war. The verdict is in on that pile of dog manure so we need to focus on the future.
In early 2003, much of the world and many in this country, beside pinko lefties, thought invading Iraq was a bad idea. It's a tiresome debate to rehash especially since the history is so well documented. The war was a tragic mistake. Case closed.
McDermott is a leftist. That is plenty of reason to get his sorry rear out of there.
Doctor Right| 10.28.10 @ 10:24AM
Maybe the case is "closed" in your mind, but that don't make it so.
Going into Iraq was a BRILLIANT decision.
It created a "front" in a war (against terrorism) that had historically NOT had a front. We didn't have to go looking for Islamic loonies - they came to us, and we killed them...Lots of them!
In addition, it got rid of a huge irritant in Saddam Hussein, AND created a Democratic ally in a decidedly un-Democratic part of the world, and ally that will provide us with the opportunity to maintain a presence that can react to potential, new threats from our enemies, like Iran.
And yes, let's not forget...That new, Democratic ally is swimming in oil.
The Iraq War was NOT a mistake. It was a bold, strategic move, and it has been a success.
Case closed.
Nose Hit| 10.28.10 @ 10:31AM
"Case closed"?
How about mind closed, Mike W?
I think if you asked the Iraqis who survived what Saddam did to them and their families if they thought "The war was a tragic mistake."
they'd think you were nuts.
As Reagan once asked, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" Just so, with respect to all things considered about Iraq.
If the worst thing we have to deal with is sniping and bitching by people about the presently successful results in Mesopotania, compared to what the hell hole was before, we can handle it.
stmichrick| 10.28.10 @ 1:15PM
The Iraq War will be remembered as a proactive step in shaping that part of the world, which had overflowed with deadly Islamic lunacy and become a tool for our adversaries starting with the Cold War.
Fortress America doesn't cut it.
ds80| 10.28.10 @ 5:21PM
"JFGalt, my arse.
I suppose we should pre-ignore the Wikileaks documents that indicate there *were* chemical WMD found in Iraq.
Jacobite| 10.28.10 @ 8:05PM
Mohammedans and their religion are our blood enemies. If we need to make up stuff before incinerating them, no problema. It's Self-Preservation 101. When things got down to it, Baghdad Jim (BJ) was not on our side. You know what that's called and what the punishment ought to be (for BJ and for every single voter who keeps him in office). Also, it's why I don't care if the wogs get nukes and light up NYC, DC, or LA.
Ned| 10.29.10 @ 3:31PM
just not Seattle - during working hours. otherwise, have at it... I'd love to have water front property up here on the hill.
KLR56| 10.28.10 @ 8:10PM
Sorry JFGalt but Pres. Bush was right about weapons of mass destruction (note Wikileaks) and McDermitt was wrong. Unfortunately I too live in the Pacific Northwest and I'd love to leave. I am forced to be a member of SEIU and have no recourse (accept as a Beck Objector which doesn't mean much) to paying dues that are used for political purposes I disagree with. The last major election for Governor was stolen (thanks to pole watchers filling in ballots that had been intentionally left blank). I just keep praying that people will wake up and vote Patty M. out.
Flit Andersen| 11.2.10 @ 5:12AM
How does an alleged male develop such a woman's train of thought? A REAL man doesn't give a bloody-blue bleep about "world opinion", so all the President would need to justify his launching an offensive again Hussien was his OWN belief in this monsters possesion of weapons. Since we had the evidence he used them against thousands of villagers in the north (who were gassed to death) and Saddam's OWN WORD he had these weapons, and no evidence he ever got rid of them, what else could Bush believe? Don't forget the beating "W" took for not reacting quickly enough the the intelligence pointing to an attack on 9/11. All tied into the "Bush-is-a-Dope"
leftist trope. Who knows how much that bashing added to his moving quickly on THIS intelligence. But I was and remain convinced that there COULD have been WMD's; that they COULD have been sold to al Qa'ida and that the Big Powers - France; China & Russia weren't going to help us because their leaders were being bribed by Hussien with chits for oil. I also believed - and still do - that many in THIS country who profess to believe "Bush-Lied-People-Died" simply hate the fact Bush won the 2000 election and used this as a stick to beat him with. I don't believe there are more than a few thousand people nationwide who really think Bush lied.
Bush may or may not be a fool, but he acted wisely based on what was known at the time.
Steve A| 10.28.10 @ 8:56AM
Saddam intentionally led the world to believe he harbored a nuclear & biological weapons program in order to intimidate Iran. This is a fact backed up by the interviews & soft interrogation methods used on him post capture by US CIA.
This is the reason, post 911, that we chose to invade.
Consummate V's| 10.28.10 @ 10:15AM
Steve, this was, in fact, only one of 23 reasons listed in congressional approval to use force against Iraq. Another was Sadam's attempted assassination of a sitting US president. That alone should be enough for war, unless you are a Democrat and the sitting president's name is Bush. Then, by all appearances, you're on "their" side.
Steve A| 10.28.10 @ 1:25PM
Thanks for clearing it up for me. I thought it was just Bush Lied & People Died & Hillary was too stupid to figure it out.
Arnold Ahlert| 10.28.10 @ 9:11AM
when one reads some of the things useful idiots like McDermott, et al, have said--even as we have troops in harm's way--one beings to wonder if any meaningful definitions of "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" or "treason" still exist.
Wicked Dickie--Virginia| 10.28.10 @ 9:52AM
Stay on subject, Arnold. We're discussing Baghdad Jim here, not Obama-ayers. Ohhh, I see.
Conrad Spiracy| 10.28.10 @ 10:31AM
JFGalt - please explain all of the trucks making the exodus from Iraq to Syria just before the invasion. Also, the gas centrifuge parts the coalition found buried in the desert in Iraq.
The real reason I decided to post whilst reading was, don't forget BONIOR WENT TO NICARAGUA too!
After my honorable discharge from the Navy, I was taking an Econ course. The instructor was big in the local Dem flock, and he was a big Bonior fan. One day during class, he mentioned something about Bonior and I said, "Bonior is a communist."
In his typical liberal defense (although, compared to today's sycophants, he was polite) he said, "David Bonior isn't a communist.
I then asked, "So what was he doing in Nicaragua?" No response. Typical that when faced with the FACTS, libs shut up or become profane. I was pleased at his silence.
BTW - he didn't take it personal-like either. I got an "A" in the course, as well as my next with him.
Con Spiracy
Excelsior!
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.28.10 @ 10:43AM
I hope our retired Marine sees this.
I copied it from an e-mail got this morning.
I hope it is a true story......
A United States Marine was taking some college courses
between assignments. He had completed 20 missions in Iraq and Afghanistan . One of the courses had a professor who was an avowed atheist, and a member of the ACLU.
One day the professor shocked the class when he came in.
He looked to the ceiling and flatly stated, "GOD, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform... I'll give you exactly 15 min."
The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, "Here I am GOD, I'm still waiting."
It got down to the last couple of minutes when the Marine got out of his chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him; knocking him off the platform. The professor was out cold.
The Marine went back to his seat and sat there, silently.
The other students were shocked and stunned, and sat there
looking on in silence. The professor eventually came to,
noticeably shaken, looked at the Marine and asked,
"What in the world is the matter with you? Why did you do that?"
The Marine calmly replied,
"GOD was busy today protecting America 's
soldiers who are protecting your right to say stupid
stuff and act like an idiot. So He sent me."
The classroom erupted in cheers!
________________
Mr McDermott is only one vote among 435. We have room for nut-case traitors in that mix.
More than anything else, Mr Dubyah exhibited, "POLITICAL WILL" to go on offense against terrorist supporting states, and then to carry through.
With all his mistakes in office, this was not a mistake. We got 7 years of grace from domestic terrorism because the terrorists were too busy fighting our Army and Marines to come here and make war on moms and kids.
Sheila| 10.28.10 @ 11:52AM
I've seen other variants of that story before, Ken, so I think it's apocryphal. Nonetheless, it's a good one.
Louis Jenkins| 10.28.10 @ 10:55AM
Old Texican:
Yes, the muslims will make war on the women and kids. As long as we keep them occupied they will be too busy, but when the war is finished it will begin, unless we can build our nation, men, women, and yes the kids too, to resist the onslaught that those laggards will bring. As long as we have traitors in Congress we will still be in trouble.
Ned the Red| 10.28.10 @ 11:02AM
Thanks for the story Ken. I will pass it on.
I agree with you about the political will President Bush showed. It was especially apparent when he announced the surge of troops on January 10, 2007.
I loved then, and still do, that we had a President who acted, rather than just give another tough sounding speech.
Jack in the Midwest| 10.28.10 @ 11:39AM
Lets put the Iraq war to bed. It was a disaster for the Republican party, and the conservative movement. It is a miracle that we seem to be coming back. 5000 killed, 50 thousandwounded,and trillions wasted, not conting at least 500,000 iraqis killed all so the Shia allies of Iran can rule Iraq.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.28.10 @ 12:01PM
Jack in golly Gee country,
Why come here and try to pass off your lies??? We are a pretty saavy group here.
Mr. Soros is ov er-paying you.
ncatty| 10.28.10 @ 12:22PM
What facts did Jack get wrong?
Ned the Red| 10.28.10 @ 12:54PM
Jack, I'll tell you what an old squid used to tell me, "Blow it out your seabag."
oldammo| 10.28.10 @ 1:02PM
How many Iraqis killed? What about the ones that no longer have to be afraid of Saddam?
heir2freedom | 10.28.10 @ 2:17PM
Apparently McDermott's district in Washington has their water piped in from Nancy Pelosi's district in San Francisco, "The City of Brotherly Love".
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Carole Mason | 10.28.10 @ 3:29PM
let's see progressives are Brilliant and conservativesss are dumb
what a joke
white wealthy progressives everywhere
you do not own intellegence but stupidity maybe
put your white guilt in the closet and let us govern the country
Jack in the Midwest| 10.28.10 @ 5:18PM
I have been a conservative Republican my whole life. My first vote was Goldwater. Most sane conservatives were against the invasion of Iraq. People like Brent Skowcroft, Norm Schwartzkoff, HW Bush, Jim Baker, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Bob Novak, and me . We were right.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.28.10 @ 6:09PM
Jack,
You are still LYING.......
Yes a couple of the fringe nuts above were like the isolationists of 1939...welcome WWII
aware| 10.28.10 @ 7:22PM
Jim McDermott (D-WA)......commie scum.
wolfveryne| 10.28.10 @ 9:02PM
We need to ,, Re-District ,, the voting in this district ,, see how McDummer likes it . TEA are the Ones ,, We have been Waiting For !
AnaRoo| 10.28.10 @ 9:34PM
McDermott does what he is supposed to do, represent his district. After all these years in the war history has proven him right. He is a wonderful man and an excellent representative of his district. I'm sorry you don't like it, but that's why you have your vote and you can elect someone that better represents you. In the meantime I could not be happier that Rep. McDermott has a safe seat. We need more people like him in government.
Le Cracquere| 10.28.10 @ 10:02PM
In AnaRoo's defense, she has a kind of point. Yes, McDermott is scum. However, anecdotal and other evidence suggests that the overwhelming majority of his voting constituents are scum. So you can't say he isn't doing his job as a representative.
MikeD| 10.29.10 @ 3:54PM
AnaRoo, and midget minds like her are the ones who gave us obama and his thugs. McDermotts' district, and AnaRoo are symptomatic of that chunk of Americans who got too much too soon, either through permissive parents or trust funds; never learned a thing in school other than how to pervert the use of condums and cucumbers; and never think of a thing but how cool they are and which kind of coffee to slurp.
Fortunately, that part of America that has been spending their time working has finally looked up from their jobs since obama and his gang have destroyed the economy. Now that the adults have been awakened, we have a chance. AnaRoo; I hope you never have to actually do anything substantive, or need somebody to help you because you are outta luck when obama and his gang gut our defense and police groups. Wait, they can't do a thing because your kind of brainless infant sue them if they try. Go back to Sesame street. If you watch for a few years, you might learn enough to get to first grade. At least you're comfortable with being the "...most important person in the whole wide world." May God help us.
Drifter| 10.28.10 @ 11:16PM
This says a lot more about the voters in Seattle than about McDermott
Jack in the Midwest| 10.28.10 @ 11:21PM
Old Texican: With all due respect: You have no answer but name calling. The people I mentioned all publicly opposed the invasion of Iraq. The only one who didn't was HW Bush who privatly counciled his son not too invade. The son would not listen and he almost destroyed the prolife conservative movement that I have worked for my whole life. Thank God a lot of the bad people GWBush had around him are discredited. The new people coming into congress have a hell of job ahead of them.
fantum| 10.29.10 @ 3:02AM
YOU DEMOCRATS DECLARED THIS WAR ON AMERICA...
Now Americans are gonna shove it so far up your pooper it will require a surgeon to get it out (good luck finding one under ObamaCare)!
WE ARE BRINGING A TSUNAMI TO THE NOVEMBER 2ND ELECTIONS!
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Yosemeti Sam| 10.29.10 @ 5:59AM
" ... Only in a congressional district like Washington state's District 7 -- dominated by wealthy, white Seattle liberals -- could this be possible...."
Hmmmm.
Is that the District where Gates lives?
If so - Linux, here I come!
LOL.
dennisl59| 10.31.10 @ 9:10PM
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 is a United Nations Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by the United Nations Security Council on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq under Saddam Hussein "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations" that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284).
Getting rid of the Homicidal Maniac Hussein was sanctioned by the United Nations.
Tulsa Jack| 11.1.10 @ 5:11PM
Hm. Anyone remember 2,900 innocent Americans murdered by Muslump terrorists at New York's World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001? This vicious attack, as heinous as Pearl Harbor, was financed in part by Sadaam Hussein. President Bush did all he could to defuse the situation, then went to war against our declared enemies with full Congressional support to show Sadaam's thugs that they could not attack and kill us with impunity. It's called self-defense. We could have bombed Mecca's Al-Aksah Mosque, but did not. The President made a wise, courageous and determined decision that removed a canker from the international scene and has kept our country safe for the past nine years. Weakness and irresolution invite death and destruction, and GWB would have no part of it. Mr. Bush is a great man, and McDermott is a traitor in all but name.
Balu| 11.5.10 @ 12:51PM
McDermott may have his flaws but invading Iraq was not based on sound evidence. There were no weapons of mass destruction there. The focus of the war on terror should have always been Afghanistan. It was Bin Laden who sponsored 9/11, not Saddam. In fact, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan sponsor far more terror than Iraq ever did. Let's not confuse Saddam for being an Islamic Jihadi. (In fact, Saddam is the 1 Muslim leader who actually accepted that Kashmir is part of India and not Pakistan). Granted he was a dictator but then North Korea, and many other countries have dictatorships too but of course they don't have oil...hmmm