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A Capper for Christie?

By Kevin Mooney on 9.28.10 @ 6:08AM

Anti-regulatory efforts in New Jersey could unwind Kyoto-type environmental schemes in other states.

An anti-regulatory earthquake is stirring in New Jersey that could potentially free other states and regions from economically unsound energy restrictions and renewable mandates that have further burdened America’s already beleaguered consumers with higher costs.

Representatives from private industry have joined with the state branch of Americans for Prosperity (AFP), a grassroots free market advocacy group, to organize a series of protests and media events targeting global warming policies modeled after the Kyoto Protocol, an international agreement that came into force in 2005. Most recently, the New Jersey Restaurant Association (NJRA), which represents the state’s largest employment sector, announced its support for a bill introduced in the state assembly that would both repeal “cap and trade” legislation and rescind N.J.’s membership in the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI).

If successful, this one-two punch could reverberate in other parts of the country that have succumbed to higher energy prices. Michael Patrick Carroll (R-25) and Alison Littell McHose (R-24) are leading the charge for A 3147 on the Assembly side. They are now joined in this effort by Sen. Mike Doherty (R-23) and Sen. Steven Oroho (R-24), who have introduced mirroring legislation in the upper chamber.

“The opposition that is building up against ‘cap and trade’ in our state could have national implications since the program here was crafted as a model for what President Obama had in mind for the whole country,” Steve Lonegan, a former mayor of Bogota, who heads up AFP’s N.J. chapter, said in an interview. “The American people are opposed to these costly environmental regulations but they are still growing right under our feet at the state level with these regional initiatives. It’s shocking how few people realize New Jersey already has the program.”

A key figure here is Lisa Jackson, President Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) administrator, who previously served as the N.J. environmental commissioner under former Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine. Jackson helped formulate what is arguably the most restrictive and economically damaging global warming regulatory regime now in operation throughout the country. The N.J. law, which became effective in 2008, calls for greenhouse gas emissions to be reduced to where they were in 1990 “no later” than 2020. It further requires that emissions not exceed 80 percent of their 2006 levels “no later” than 2050.

Unfortunately, the New Jersey experience is part of a larger story.

Although the Kyoto Protocol has been held at bay on the federal level, environmental pressure groups have successfully lobbied for greenhouse gas regulations within various states. A crucial player in this area has been the Center for Climate Strategies (CCS), an unheralded but politically potent outfit that has worked successfully to bypass state legislatures and formulate regulatory policy with compliant governors in both parties. Chris Horner, a senior fellow with The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), has documented the organization’s activities and methodology in a very detailed report for the Capital Research Center (CRC) that is worth reviewing in light of recent developments.

“The activists’ new state-based strategy avoids open political debate,” Horner explained in his report. “Instead, it depends on having the full range of left-wing pressure groups — feminists, abortion and animal rights activists, labor organizers and other leftist factions — make ‘global warming’ part of their message and mission. CCS is among those activist groups. This is the familiar ‘crazy quilt’ strategy of the Left, a long-march approach by which activists lobby states to adopt policies that cannot advance on their merits under the brighter glare of national legislating.”

Under the existing Kyoto Protocol requirements, participating countries must commit to reducing their greenhouse gas emissions to five percent below 1990 levels by 2012. Thus far, 187 countries have signed and ratified the treaty. While the U.S. was a signatory, President Clinton declined to seek ratification after the U.S. Senate voted 95-0 in favor of a resolution that opposed the treaty on economic grounds. For his part, President Bush described the treaty as “fatally flawed” and also refrained from pursuing Senate approval.

Although the House narrowly passed an anti-emissions bill in June 2009 co-sponsored by Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) and Ed Markey (D-Mass.), the effort has stalled in the U.S. Senate. Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) stripped emission limits from the most recent anti-energy scheme offered up before the summer recess acknowledging he did not have the votes. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs has suggested that it may be possible to re-insert climate change provisions into a Senate bill later this fall. But, even sympathetic policy analysts acknowledge that this is an unlikely scenario.

To be sure, free market proponents should remain mindful of the potential for legislative gamesmanship in the lame duck session, to say nothing of the EPA’s extra-constitutional ambitions. But the most constructive and effective campaigns organized against environmental restrictions may be occurring at the state level, most especially in New Jersey. Lonegan, the state AFP director, suspects the “climategate” scandal that involves emails leaked to the Internet from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) from the University of East Anglia in Great Britain has given further impetus to his cause.

The electronic correspondence between researchers suggests that they were willing to falsify and manipulate data to the point where warming trends were either exaggerated or manufactured for political purposes. An investigation into the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has also raised questions about that organization’s methodology and practices. Meanwhile, over 31,000 American scientists have signed a petition that rejects the Kyoto Treaty and declares that there is no “convincing scientific evidence” that human activity has translated into dangerous levels of global warming.

“There are many credible members of the scientific community that have questioned the theory of global warming,” notes state Sen. Doherty, who has been instrumental in advancing the anti-regulatory bill. “New Jersey’s citizens and businesses do not need economically damaging regulations or energy based taxes that are prompted by the global warming hysteria of recent years.”

Although “cap and trade” schemes remain the preferred method politicians have applied in an effort to achieve emission reduction goals, they are typically married in with other practices that restrict industrial activity. Under this arrangement, government officials set a cap or limit on how much carbon dioxide can be emitted into the air; a company can then buy or trade “carbon credits” to offset these emissions. Because the limits are set for political reasons as opposed to economic or even legitimate environmental concerns, there is a large opening for mischief and favoritism in the regulatory and legislative process.

The Institute for Energy Research (IER) recently released a study on state-level energy policy that should give consumers and policy makers pause.

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About the Author

Kevin Mooney is an investigative reporter with free market think tanks associated with the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity. He has also written for the Daily Caller, the Washington Times, the Washington Examiner, NetRightDaily.com and NewsBusters.

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Booger| 9.28.10 @ 6:35AM

Chris Christie says he is NOT running for President in 2012. Thus, I have a simple question:
Is it possible to drag him into the White House (by his ankles, if necessary) and plop him down behind the Oval Office desk?

TR| 9.28.10 @ 11:20AM

Booger, I have a great friend who is active in So. New Jersey Republican politics. I asked him about a month ago for his candid take on Christy. He has met him and knows him.

My friend stated that he does not think that Christy is physically capable for the demands required of running for President. He admires the man and believes he would be an incredible Pres., but he fears the physical demands of a two year campaign could kill the man. He says that Christy is not in good shape at all due to being severely overweight. I believe his take on this, as he has worked with him.

I think Christy would be a Reaganesque president, and I would vote for him without reservation. But I don't see him running in 2012.

steve p.| 9.29.10 @ 11:54AM

Huckabee used to weigh 300 pounds. Anybody know a good personal trainer we could send to NJ?

Clement Dias| 9.29.10 @ 3:17PM

I am an admirer of Mr. Christie. If you are so interested in getting Mr. Christie's health in shape BEFORE the nominating process begins in earnest for 2012, please post a reply to this and I will be glad to provide you with a very effective program to achieve the weight loss AND improvement in general well-being for my favourite Governor.

loulou| 9.28.10 @ 1:05PM

As much as I like Christie, I have to note that he supports the Ground Zero Mosque. He's not quite Reagan.

TR| 9.28.10 @ 2:08PM

I didn't know that loulou. My NJ friend did tell me that everyone needs to look a little deeper, that Christ is a good man for NJ, but may be too "east coast repub" for the US in general. I just see how he stands up to the union special interest groups with confidence and without flinching.

TR| 9.28.10 @ 2:09PM

Sorry, should read Christy not Christ.

TR| 9.28.10 @ 2:10PM

Again sorry, I always spell it Christy when it is Christie.

tin foil head| 9.29.10 @ 12:12AM

Whoa! that slip is kind of freudian considering the last two years! :)

tin foil head| 9.29.10 @ 12:26AM

I like him. I think he is delightful. He isn't too "east coast repub" for me and I'm a Westerner. I have a lot of east coast elitist friends, just like yours.
They're generally full of it.

tin foil head| 9.29.10 @ 12:10AM

I'll help drag him into the oval.
Could he reopen the light bulb factories?
Last one just closed. All the green jobs for the new "light-ha!" bulbs are moving to China.
Apparently the new bulbs require too much human assembly to be made stateside.
More lost jobs. And no more evening reading!

Kenny| 9.28.10 @ 7:08AM

I hope this artice is not overly optimistic, especially about Chris Christie's support for this roll back.

After all, it is NJ we're talking about.

Dan| 9.29.10 @ 8:24PM

We should not forget,out of 8 republican congressmen who voted for "Cap&Trade;" 3 are from NJ and at least one (Leonard Lance) is up for re-election this November (he won the Primary!
You are right,this is NJ...

Rick Z| 9.30.10 @ 11:32AM

.... ALL members of the House of Representatives are up for (re)election at the same time .... every 2 years.

..... Leonard Lance , who is my congressman, has reversed himself on Cap 'n Trade -- because China and India won't sign on.

Brian| 9.28.10 @ 7:23AM

I sense there are a lot of things Christie would do if he could, but he has to pick fights carefully given the composition of the state legislature. Cap N Tax is definitely a bad idea and ALL conservatives get that. But assuming RGGI were reversed tomorrow, the pension and health care debts continue to put NJ in a steepening death spiral.

While it is possible to fight many battles all at once, it is not necessarily a good idea. Disclaimer, I have already given up on NJ and am fixin' to move to TN when my son graduates High School in 2013 (if the world doesn't end first in 2012).

Stephanie| 9.28.10 @ 7:27AM

I don't blame you Brian. Where in TN are you moving to? Knoxville area near the Smokys is lovely.

loulou| 9.28.10 @ 1:06PM

I know several people who have or are planning to retire to Tennessee. Oklahoma's also a good state.

Bruce | 9.28.10 @ 5:52PM

Good choice, assuming too many people don't jump on the TN bandwagon. I have some acreage in TN just outside of Johnson City. Only problem is the market here on Long Island (NY) is DEAD and I can't sell my place. Over 100 houses for sale just in my area and many have been on the market for over a year. Without the income from this place I can't afford to build my log cabin.

Woodman| 9.28.10 @ 7:45AM

Dareful in TN! Trees pollute. When you smell the piney wooods --that's pollution. The smoke of smokey mountains the Blue of the Blue Ridge is the polluting transpiration of trees.

Nunya| 9.28.10 @ 4:57PM

I absolutely love the smell of pine forests. Let 'em pollute all the more! ;-)

Doctor Right| 9.28.10 @ 8:35AM

Look...let's get one thing straight: Chris Christie is doing a GREAT job as Governor of New Jersey, and as a resident of New Jersey, I'm glad to have him...

...BUT...(and you knew this was coming)

He's NOT a "Movement Conservative", and he never has been.

Christie is a good and decent man, a hard worker, and a believer in limited government - up to a point.

But his ingrained proclivities are more in-tune with the Northeastern, establishment GOP-types (a.k.a. "RINOs") than with the Conservative movement.

He is NOT with Conservatives on immigration.

He claims to support the 2nd Amendment, but also supports maintaining NJ's strict policies on gun ownership, which are among the nation's toughest.

He is wishy-washy on all of the global warming, environmental nonsense.

He is NOT a supporter of the Tea Party Movement - For Pete's sake, he endorsed Mike Castle in Delaware!

Yes, he's tough and brash, and we all love the videos of him putting obnoxious little snots from the Teachers' Unions in their rightful place...But let's not confuse the man with Ronald Reagan.

To be honest, NONE of this means I wouldn't support him for President, if push came to shove. But in the interests of full disclosure, I want my fellow Conservatives to know that as President, on many fronts including social issues, Christie would likely disappoint.

Eric Cartman| 9.28.10 @ 9:14AM

The good Dr. makes some interesting points. The question then becomes one of degrees. Is Christie a power grabbing, statist, National Socialist Democrat that the East is famous for with a chip on his shoulder for the teacher's union and that's what we see? Or is he a free-market Republican who sees issues like Cap and Tax for the power grabbing, control freak wet dreams they are? Hmmmm. Well, that's what primaries are for.

But if he is the former, can he kick Karl Rove in the balls (all together now) - if he had any - on the way over to the Whitehouse?

Eric Cartman| 9.28.10 @ 9:20AM

OR! . . . . Is the good Dr. on a false flag mission, saying these things about Christie to raise doubts in our minds about Christie so THEY CAN KEEP HIM IN NEW JERSEY AND NOT SHARE HIM??? Huh! Huh? We're on to you, sir! We see your evil plan! Now if you'll excuse me, my tin foil hat needs adjusting.

Maxwell| 9.28.10 @ 9:39AM

Doctor Right, you said that better than I could. The state just got how many millions fron the RGGI? Forgot the exact amount the Red Star Ledger noted but it was not chicken feed.

As a life member of the NRA, CC believes in 'common sense gun laws'. Try to get a CCW in this state, not going to happen.

In my mind Steve Lonegan was the better man, but what do I know.

Doctor Right| 9.28.10 @ 9:57AM

I supported Lonegan, too. His speech at CPAC 2009 was electrifying. But NJ is still NJ...And the establishment GOP still rules the roost...So we have Chris Christie.

And to be honest, I have been pleasantly surprised by Christie. He speaks the truth, and isn't afraid to do it. And he's going straight for the liberals' jugular - the teachers' unions and spending - without wavering.

In this, I applaud him 1000%.

Christie for President?

Maybe. He says he's not interested, but I don't believe him. And in actuality, if he was going to do it, 2012 would be the OPTIMAL time. If another Republican knocks Obama out in 2012, Christie would have to wait until at least 2020, by which time he'll have already left the Governor's mansion and faded (somewhat) from the public eye.

So if he does it, he'll do it in 2012. Bank on it.

And, as much as I hate to say it, he DOES have crossover appeal to Conservatives (on some issues), GOP "moderates", and even Reagan Democrats.

It could happen...

loulou| 9.28.10 @ 1:08PM

As I noted above, Christie supports the Ground Zero Mosque. He needs to demonstrate further "growth in office".

Maxwell| 9.28.10 @ 8:55PM

loulou, don't know if you check this board late at night but I will have to add, I did not know CC was pro Ground Zero. Learn something new every day.

Deuce| 9.30.10 @ 1:28PM

That's because supporting the Ground Zero Mosque is the only way to prove in ACTION all of your big words about believing in free speech. And Christie clearly understands, as few pols do, that at some point you have to put up or shut up. Its sad that you are against both of these things. Anyone claiming to be a Republican, or American for that matter SHOULD have no objection to the media-created frenzy surrounding the Ground Zero REC CENTER. If you do object, then congratulations you are a useful idiot, puppeted by the media. FREE SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH. FREE RELIGION IS FREE RELIGION. You should be applauding the fact that Christie backs his belief in these principles with a firm stand. Even at risk of being criticized for it. If you're not, you should do us all a favor and leave America since your views are directly antithetical to the US Constitution.

Dope!

Sheila| 9.28.10 @ 10:58AM

I couldn't have said it better myself, Dr. Right. I, too, like watching Christie school the "educators," but everything else hinges on immigration. Once you've finished replacing the American population with social-services using immigrants whose assimilation is barely skin deep, the rest falls into place. Demography is destiny, and ours is already determined. Even if the massive voter fraud fails to prevent some conservative victories in the next few years, in another 10-15 we'll be minority white (even stopping all immigration today won't change that, given birth rates) and the dems are home free. Tribalism + democracy + stupidity = racist idiocracy.

RCV| 9.28.10 @ 12:00PM

Ah, yes. Sheila shares her Aryan Nation wisdom once again.

Doctor Right| 9.28.10 @ 12:07PM

When Liberals cry "racism"......It's sooooooo boring...

And they apparently haven't noticed that it doesn't work anymore!

RCV| 9.28.10 @ 12:40PM

If you've read Sheila's posts over time, she's the real deal.

Frank Natoli| 9.28.10 @ 8:40AM

"states that have renewable mandates and other burdensome anti-energy restrictions have electricity costs that are almost 40 percent higher than states that do not"

Believe it or not, the above is a drastic understatement of the problem. During the peak summer months, here in NJ I'm paying JCPL $0.19/kwh whereas a buddy in MO is paying $0.085/kwh and that with twice the kwh per month that I use.

The principal environmental zealot weapon is misery. The more misery he or she can impose, the better the results, and the happier they are. High electric rates: misery. Bumper to bumper rush hour traffic without a prayer of new lane construction: misery. High fuel oil home heating costs: misery.

Our misery, their delight.

Redstateboy| 9.28.10 @ 9:52AM

One of the States I provide Auto Insurance in is NJ - I don't know how these people live. There Auto Insurance Rates are - Next to the People's Republic of New York's - the Highest in the Nation! For God's Sake!!! Look what Liber-ulism does!!! It's crushing and it's oppressive!! and it's oppressing the Citizens.. Why in the Hell are we even listening to this People!?

Nunya| 9.28.10 @ 5:04PM

Add to that the property tax rates are out of control! A friend of mine lived in NJ, and told me his property tax rates at the time were 7% per year. Add almost $1,200 per month onto your mortgage for a $200K house. No thank you.

Here in flyover country, my property tax rate is less than 1% (though it is going up).

Bruce | 9.28.10 @ 6:00PM

I make no claims of expertise vis-a-vis' insurance rates, but my opinion of why rates are so high in NY is simple - 80% of the drivers in this state are totally incompetent and should not have a drivers license. My limited driving experience in NJ would make me conclude the same is true there.

It's hard to find a vehicle in NY without some type of body damage of the "back and bump" variety, and there are accidents caused by tailgating almost daily. How does the insurance industry pay for all this? They rates the rates. Then they offer "accident forgiveness" policies.

Julie| 9.28.10 @ 10:28AM

Governor Christie doesn't have any personal appeal as a presidential candidate. He's too FAT. Romney's the man I'm voting for, he has great appeal.

Publius| 9.28.10 @ 11:00AM

And therein lies a core problem, women making political decisions based on appearance and charisma. Julie, looks like we can depend on you to go for symbolism over substance every time. How utterly pathetic.

Steve A| 9.28.10 @ 11:06AM

Wow, thanks Julie for that well thought, insightful commentary on contemporary American politics. Please expand on how Romney would provide superior leadership in correlation to a smaller belt size.

Emma P| 9.28.10 @ 11:16AM

I agree with Julie. It's important to female voters a man have some sex appeal. Romney and Clinton have it, Christie doesn't. That man is way too obese to get my vote.

Steve A| 9.28.10 @ 11:32AM

You babes are weak. I swear. What deep, intellectual thought. It must go like this... "Yeah, I pick Mitt over Chris because I can better visualize him nailing me." Take your tramp stamp & go campaign for George Clooney 2012.

Doctor Right| 9.28.10 @ 12:09PM

Relax, guys!

Methinks that Julie and Emma. P are yanking our chains...

Steve A| 9.28.10 @ 12:15PM

DR, Hope you are correct. Betting against it though...

Frank| 9.28.10 @ 4:21PM

They're both agent provocateurs. And Emma needs remedial English class. Must be a product of NEA "education". Then again, maybe Emma runs the NEA remedial English class.

Texas Jayde| 9.28.10 @ 4:24PM

dear God!! i hope you're right! the thought that there are actually women out there that vote on the basis of sex appeal is appalling. however, i'm afraid that there are far too many women who do exactly that.

axbucxdu| 9.30.10 @ 10:39PM

President Slick Willie was Exhibit A.

TR| 9.28.10 @ 4:33PM

"yanking our chains..."

Please, gentlemen, there are ladies present.

RCV| 9.28.10 @ 12:02PM

Brilliant. "That Churchill guy is way too fat for Britain. I'm sticking with the dapper Neville Chamberlin."

tj| 9.28.10 @ 10:38PM

Emma P you are a very, very shallow person

sandy m| 9.30.10 @ 12:45AM

Are you nuts? the absolute last thing on my priority list is sex appeal when considering a candidate! Must be an Obama troll post. If your premise was true, could you please explain the election of Waxman and Frank?

tj| 9.28.10 @ 10:36PM

Romney is an elitist Rhino... check out his record and voting and flip flopping on everything. His horrible Mass. Care bankrupting the State he was Governor of, do some research for God's sake.

Amanda| 9.29.10 @ 1:59PM

I am female and agree that some females would
vote for looks; heck if they could they would vote
for Brad Pitt! I never understood the "Bill Clinton is so good looking" commentary; he makes my skin crawl.

However, the best looking politician not yet in the race is Sarah Palin....much better looking than
Romney. May I assume that based on looks you are going to vote for Palin?

Sheila| 9.28.10 @ 11:04AM

Julie, as the epitome of the female airhead, you are why I prefer male comments at forums. I'm sure you swooned over Obama's faux pecs, too, and were thrilled by the pleat in his pants. Expanding the franchise to women ensured votes based on superficial appearance and feel-good oratory. God save us from all bimbos.

DagT| 9.28.10 @ 8:44PM

Come on. Those bimbos can't be for real. Believing that they are is almost as bad as their posts.

Kenny| 9.28.10 @ 11:33AM

Shelia, don't be so hard on the ding bats. They mean well ---I think.

MikeN| 9.28.10 @ 11:56AM

I think you have the details wrong. Where you say 80% of emissions levels by 2050, should this be an 80% cut? Getting to 80% of 2006 levels by 2050 is pretty easy if you already have achieved 1990 levels by 2020. That might even be a higher level.

Diana| 9.28.10 @ 2:03PM

Gee, Governor Christie has a lot of blubber around his midsection. He needs to eat a lot of oatmeal and yogurt instead of pork chops and ravioli.

Frank| 9.28.10 @ 3:42PM

Is that the limit of choices in the Diana house? Oatmeal and yogurt or pork chops and ravioli?

Or is there, as I suspect, no choice in the Diana house?

Donovan | 9.28.10 @ 3:29PM

Fascinating and great article. The Cap and Trade issue would be absolutely devastating to this country and to every family stuck with the bill. There's a great synopsis and breakdown of the Cap and Trade issue at http://americasculturalstudies.....ap-trade/.

Possum Dearie| 9.28.10 @ 8:24PM

If the tea party isn't stopped, they will run every effective Republican out of office in some quest for ideological purity.

sparkleplenty27| 9.28.10 @ 11:46PM

That is ridiculous! The tea party consists of poeple of all political, racial, cultural and religious stripes. It is a collective of people united around common objective and beliefs - all supportive of America, all in keeping with the Constitution. There is a HUGE (78%) support by Republicans for the tea party movement as there should be. Tea party people (or as I prefer to call them, patriot movement). The wise move for all patriot groups and Republicans is to unite with common goals - the only thing that really separates them now is that tea party/patriot groups will no longer tolerate RINOS, and seek to vet candidates to be sure they are not RINOS but one who will support the tenets of the Constitution. They also seek to return our country to core values and principles upon which the nation was founded.

sandy m| 9.30.10 @ 12:47AM

If "effective" means RINO, that would be fine with me.

Dave Trapped in NYC| 9.28.10 @ 9:00PM

Christie had a chance to change the pensions to 401K and did not do it, that means when the unions get their guy in office the pennsions will blow out again.

Also, Christie is not taking near drastic enough action, I think he is nibbling, 20. 30 40% of state workers neeed to be fired NOW!

A funding crisis is coming, nobody is going to buy any type of debt, with all the hope for Christie I still see no way out.

sparkleplenty27| 9.28.10 @ 11:34PM

Christie is my guy! I am rooting for him for Prez. He may be overweight and out of shape, but that is not a permanent unalterable condition. He can lose weight and get in shape - and if he reads this - JUST DO IT CHRIS - for the country and for yourself. He is a sharp, smart, Constitutional, dedicated outspoken and straight talking man. I'd love to see him run and he'd have my support. I'd also like to see him bring in Michelle Bachmann as his running mate! What a dynamic duo those two would be - both straight shooters and talkers, both fearless, both with a vision that benefits AMerica and we the people. Come on Chris - get that fat off and get into shape - you've got a lot of running to do!

Iowa Shirley| 9.29.10 @ 8:08AM

Christie looks like a Hawkeye State Hog. I know we have enough of them out here. I'm supporting Romney in the upcoming caucus. Mitt is handsome, fit and best MAN for the job.

LeChat| 9.30.10 @ 12:39AM

Truth to tell, I doubt that I could hold my nose and vote for Romney. He signed off on Romneycare in Massachusetts, which is much like Obamacare. That's a deal breaker for me.

DTCofAZ| 9.30.10 @ 3:19PM

To Sheila: C'mon.. You have to be fair to both genders when making such comment ..."as the epitome of the female airhead, you are why I prefer male comments at forums.."
Remember Chris Matthews with his famous quote " I felt this thrill going up my legs.." combined with a big smile on his face when he talked about his lover Obama?

I admire CC very much...
Think about this scenario in 2012: Either Pence or Romney and Palin as POTUS/V-POTUS , and CC as the President's advisor... How's that?

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