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The Sharia-Compliant American Left

By George Neumayr on 9.23.10 @ 6:08AM

It chuckles over the “new Red Menace.”

Vladimir Lenin said that westerners too dumb to recognize his plans to “hang them” would “sell me the rope — on credit.” And they did, engaging in decades of excuse-making for Communist totalitarianism. But without the Soviets around, the American left needed new anti-western totalitarians to mollify, and the leaders of militant Islam satisfied that itch.

In the 1970s, the American left embraced the Ayatollah Khomeini. Jimmy Carter’s United Nations representative, Andrew Young, said that in time Khomeini would be seen as “some kind of saint.” The BBC and New York Times defended Khomeini as a potential progressive during his days as a Parisian layabout in exile. Carter’s ambassador to Iran assured the skeptical that “Khomeini is a Gandhi-like figure.”

Today’s American left displays its useful idiocy by insisting after each new act of Islamic terrorism that “Islam is a religion of peace.” MSNBC is the unofficial headquarters for these useful idiots and now numbers the mugging and giggling morning host and “Republican” lightweight Joe Scarborough as a member in good standing. In between goofing around with Carter adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski’s stuck-up daughter Mika, Scarborough often shills for the Gandhi-like figures of Islam today. He longs for that glorious day when fellow Republicans abandon their bigotry and see a mosque near the ruins of the World Trade Center as American as apple pie.

Eugene Robinson, whom MSNBC hosts incessantly introduce as a “Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist” before his insight-free appearances, wrote a column this week titled “Sharia the new Red menace?” Robinson chuckled at Newt Gingrich’s recent comment that Sharia law is seeping into western countries through “stealth jihadis.”

“The ‘stealth jihadis,’ I suppose, must be like the ‘known communists’ on the list in Sen. Joseph McCarthy’s hand,” wrote Robinson, a gibe sure to impress peers at the Post and New York Times who for years insisted Alger Hiss wasn’t a Communist. Robinson appears oblivious to the fact that western liberals themselves have endorsed the spread of Sharia law.

In 2008, Dr. Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, supported the adoption of elements of Sharia law in Britain. “It seems unavoidable and, as a matter of fact, certain conditions of Sharia are already recognized in our society,” he said. Williams called for “plural jurisdiction” and “constructive accommodation.”

The American left’s face of moderate Islam, the Ground Zero mosque imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, wrote for Eugene Robinson’s own employer in 2008 that Rowan Williams “was right”: “The addition of Sharia law to ‘the law of the land,’ in this case British law, complements, rather than undermines, existing legal frameworks. The Archbishop was right. It is time for Britain to integrate aspects of Islamic law.”

Robinson finds it absurd that Gingrich would say, “How we don’t have some kind of movement in this country on the left that understands that sharia is a direct mortal threat to virtually every value that the left has is really one of the most interesting historical questions.” But Gingrich is hardly the first person to make this point. Liberals such as the late Italian journalist Oriana Fallaci and Salman Rushdie complained about the obtuseness of progressive Islamophiles long before Gingrich talked about it. When Tony Blair wowed progressives in 2005 by naming Sir Iqbal Sacranie as the face of moderate Islam in the U.K, Rushdie had to remind his peers that Sacranie approved of the fatwa on his head (saying “death is perhaps too easy” for Rushdie) and had boycotted a Holocaust remembrance.

Communism’s useful idiots sold Lenin and his successors the rope to hang them. Islam’s apologists will not only sell the jihadists the rope to hang westerners but will acquit them through Sharia law after they do.

About the Author

George Neumayr, a contributing editor to The American Spectator, is co-author, with Phyllis Schlafly, of the new book, No Higher Power: Obama’s War on Religious Freedom.

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Doorgunner| 9.23.10 @ 6:23AM

Ahh, but the Stewart-Colbert Smarm Alliance is about to arrive and tell us how we're all being sold fear by the Rethugs...

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 7:21AM

No religion is a religion of peace, but Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, are less violent than Islam.

Phil| 9.23.10 @ 8:38AM

Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship with our Father, Jesus Christ. Religion is man's made attempt to save himself.

kay| 9.23.10 @ 9:24AM

Thank you for posting that critical truth.

Senor Mick| 9.23.10 @ 12:10PM

No, Chrisitanity is a religion--to non-Christians. It is what you say it is only to other Christians.

Appleby| 9.23.10 @ 10:25PM

That is as ignorant as saying that a Buggatti Veyron is just a car. True as far as it goes, but it misses the entire point.

questionitall| 9.23.10 @ 11:27PM

Now isn't that just a little arrogant? My god is better than your god! Neener, neener! That's the kind of "logic" that has us in this deep doo doo!

Jimbro| 9.24.10 @ 9:24AM

100% correct!!!

JmsA| 9.23.10 @ 9:24AM

Wow, Brooks, you figured out all of that by yourself?! I always thought that My Lord Jesus preached love and forgiveness. Humans are violent, not religions, though Islam preaches death to the infidels. And yes, I know about the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades, but that's all gone now--isn't it? Once again, your cynicism falls short.

JmsA| 9.23.10 @ 9:24AM

JmsA| 9.23.10 @ 9:27AM

Apologies for the double post

Aaron| 9.23.10 @ 11:55AM

The Pres. avoided being at Ground Zero in New York on 9/11, but made every effort to honor Ramadan in the White House. Hello? Instead he was at the Pentagon on 9/11 and told us, "As Americans, we are not - and never will be _ at war with Islam." He also said that, "It was not a religion that attacked us on 9/11. It was al-Qaida - a sorry band of men which perverts religion." Well, Mr. President, then why is it that on 9/11, thousands of Muslims danced in the streets (not just al-Qaida) when they heard about the 3 thousand Americans that were killed? Get real. If the President isn't a Muslim, we know that his sentiment is with the Muslims of the world. Let's wake up, people. Islam is not compatible with Western Civilization. Yes, Katie Couric, you may be wearing a Burqa one of these days and give up your right to drive a car. From what I've heard, women in Saudia Arabia aren't allowed to drive a car. Also, ladies, if you're caught in adultery, you will be taken to the nearest stadium and shot in the back of the head with an AK47. This is how the Taliban, for example, interpret Sharia law.

John Galt | 9.23.10 @ 12:41PM

"[T]housands of Muslims danced in the streets"???

I challenge you to post one credible contemporary report from that time reporting that allegation.

While I agree with most of your post, I have to challenge your hyperbole. We, the people who are emerging to defend the USA against terror, against socialist policy-making, and against destructive unconstitutional government appointments and laws, MUST always fall on the side of accuracy, of reason, and of truth. When one says "Islam is anti-western. We must defend our way of life. Islam preaches jihad. We cannot accept Sharia in the USA.", and then follows it with a simply incorrect statement like "thousands of Muslims danced in the streets after learning of the attacks on 9/11", we give our opponents ammunition to destroy the accurate part of our statements by pointing to the inaccurate, wild-eyed, "crazy" part.

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 9.23.10 @ 1:17PM

john-boy, while these celebrants may have been Palestinian, they were probably also mooslims: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-9JpRytCx0
Finding this took all of about 5 seconds using a google search on the key phrase, “arab reaction to 9 11”. I will concede that I was unable to count all the celebrants at the filming, nor its location, though I do doubt this was a Mardi Gras party in Rio.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
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Only 850 days to go

Aaron| 9.23.10 @ 4:19PM

Dear John Galt,
My comment that "thousands of Muslims danced in the streets" was not hyperbole. As Gill O'Teen pointed out, Palestinians (who are Muslims)danced in the streets. You can find several videos of this on Youtube. Also check out this website where it explains that Muslims in Britian were dancing and celebrating on 9/11:
http://littlegreenfootballs.co.....in_Britain
Another website sates that Muslims in Michigan celebrated, also.
http://www.debbieschlussel.com.....niversary/
Is it hard for you to believe that other Muslims in other countries also celebrated on 9/11? Do you think that just the Palestinians and Muslims in Britian and Michigan celebrated? Think of all the times you've seen the American flag burned in Muslim countries. How many of these people hate us? Hundreds? Thousands? Millions? I don't know. I do know that they are trying to take over the world.

Vickie| 9.23.10 @ 7:00PM

Mr. Galt, what news program were you watching on 9/11? I remember watching 3000 Americans being killed while, on that same day, people in the streets throughout the Muslim world laughed and celebrated. That is something I can't imagine anyone forgetting. Even the liberal MSM were showing it. These were innocent men and women who had done nothing to hurt the Muslims, yet they suffered a horrendous death simply because the Muslims were "offended" by Western values. So, sir, please don't try to defend this horrible, evil religion. It has NO redeeming value. And while you are on the subject of moderate Muslims, how many of these so called moderate Muslims have you seen take a stand and strongly denounce what their Muslim brothers did? I know that that has happened, but it is definitely the exception, not the rule. I am tired, as are many other Americans, of DC and the MSM trying to tell us that the very people that have murdered innocent men and women are just peaceful Muslims. There isn't anything peaceful about them.

Howard| 9.23.10 @ 8:36PM

Who is John Galt?

Dee| 9.23.10 @ 1:49PM

I am still wondering how long it is going to take for this to sink into the heads and brains of Obama lovers?

Steve| 9.23.10 @ 3:55PM

Brains of Obama lovers ??

RWinks| 9.23.10 @ 4:17PM

Galt boy, Here in KC at a large apartment complex of more than 1,000 units there were a number of Muslims living on 9-11-01. On the evening of 9-11, several drove around the complex tooting their horns, shouting and laughing. At their apartments, they partied far into the night. These supposedly were Americans. Polling shows well over half the people in Arab countries support the Jihadis----20% in the USA.

This vicious murderous political cult is incompatible with American values, recognizing no freedom of speech, religion, equality of the sexes or any separation of religion from the secular authority.

emo| 9.23.10 @ 7:44PM

No, religions can indeed inspire violence

Aaron| 9.23.10 @ 10:29PM

"Men never do evil so joyfully and so completely as when they do it from religious convictions." Blaise Pascal
That's also why during the "Holy" Inquisition protestants were tortured and burned at the stake. Or in more modern times, in some of what were called the "Hyper-faith" protestant churches in America, people were kicked out of their churches because they had gone to the doctor and "didn't have faith." Man sucks. God is good all the time.

David C| 9.23.10 @ 10:28AM

It is common knowledge what Churhill wrote and said about Islam. We know why our savior sent the bust back to the island.

We will now see what becomes of this movement lead by our wise and brillant young president.

You have recorded your predictions and I have presented my mine as well. You have used history to support your position. Predicting the future is tricky business, more so when your history is slanted by your own limited vision.

Tick tock..tick tock

L. Ross| 9.23.10 @ 10:40AM

The violence in islam is rooted in the life story of mohammed, a child molesting warlord. There has never been a more conniving religious figure who shaped the religious convictions of his followers explicitly for his own self aggrandizement. It is a religion soaked through and through with evil, because it sprang from the heart of such an evil man.

Fergie| 9.23.10 @ 1:14PM

Islam is NOT a religion -- in the truest sense of the word -- it is a cult -- Cults derive their following by being separate and causing those that are involved to believe they are "special." They promote ideologies that maintain this separateness to keep outsiders (in this case infidels) out.

Over time some cults have morphed into what they consider a religion, but retain their cult-like hold on members. These religious cults retain such control over members lives that the complete indoctrination to this "way" of life is so complete that members cannot see what has happened to them. They are literally brainwashed to believe the outlandish and radical ideas are what the god they serve wants.

Islam has done just that -- the total and mindless following of dictates that rational human beings find aborhant are everyday practices for muslims.

Think about this carefully before blasting my idea, if you remember Jim Jones, the radical preacher that led a cult following to Guiana, Africa to build a town. One senator and two other individuals on a fact-finding mission to Jim Jones town were gunned down by two of church members, who were part of his private security force, to prevent them from revealing that many of his followers wanted to return to the U.S., but were prevented from doing so by Jones. In the end, Jones shot himself in the head and forced men, women, and children to drink poisoned kool-aid, leaving behind footage of the mass murders. Jones controlled every aspect of these people's lives. Who and when to marry, donating money and time to the church and church functions, what to wear, eat, and what jobs they were to do. There was no privacy for anyone -- married couples or otherwise -- he selected women and girls to entertain him in the evenings, married, engaged, old, young, it didn't matter. Sex was used as a tool to control his followers, as was intimidation through confession, punishments for alleged crimes against the prophet or God, and physical abuse to name a few. Survivors of the Jones Town massacre reported that Jones had "allowed" several individuals to leave the compound and "return" to the U.S., but actually, they were driven to a remote location and shot to death by the security force for their causing others to doubt that Jones was a prophet of God.

There are far too many similarities between Muhammad and Jim Jones cults. These men were cut from the same cloth -- both with an unquenchable desire for absolute power over others. However, Islam began long before individuals were educated and enlightened. During a time when uncertainty of the future caused people to long for security -- the guy with the biggest army offered that. Muhammad accepted every criminal, insane murderer, and thug to his "religious" army. He needed and wanted men who had no qualms of sneaking into a palace and murdering the ruler and if possible, everyone in the palace as well. He wanted outlaws, men who had nothing to lose if caught by rulers and who would kill as many "enemies" of Muhammad as possible before they were killed. This maniacal army, who were ruthless and showed no mercy is what subjugated the tribes of Saudi Arabia, then large sections of the Middle East to worship of Muhammad as God's true prophet and began a war against the Jews and Western society, which has lasted up to the present.

The reason that Muhammad was so successful with his cult following is because of his insistence of keeping the close tribal affiliations that existed and continue to exist in the Middle East today. Shari'ah Law continues these affiliations -- first cousins marry, even if the man is 25 and his cousin is a three-year-old baby girl. This keeps the "purity" of the tribal bloodlines, as well as solidifies the idea of "separateness" that causes muslims to feel united and linked to a man who was a self-proclaimed prophet. These archaic laws and methods of adherence to bloodlines through interbreeding is what has kept Islam alive and well.

Basically, all new converts are converted through fear. After 9/11, many young Americans converted to Islam -- why? Because "it felt like the right thing to do." Fear that a full-blown attack against America by muslims was imminent and these converts wanted to be on the side of might, not right, the Stockholm Effect, on a grand scale (this is happening everywhere Islam begins a concentrated attack on a country -- this is not a secret -- google it and see for yourself).

The left continues to propagate the belief that Islam is a religion of peace -- what they fail to realize is that IF and when muslims take over America's government, they will be the first to go -- along with the homosexuals they have touted as a minority class who needs protection -- Shari'ah Law says these people are to be killed - period! Feminists will be next -- no burning burqas in America -- these men-hating women will be stoned, beheaded, and imprisoned if they try a stunt like this after Shari'ah Law begins. There will not be a minority class of MEN, but women and children will be marginalized, victimized, and tortured legally under this law. The left ignore this fact because they think they can control exactly how much Islamisation will take place in America. They only want enough of Islam to destroy their critics, not enough to destroy them. That is not how Islam works, what a surprise this will be for these fools, if they encourage and help Islam to gain a larger foothold in America.

Islam's religious cult leaders do not care how many people are destroyed in order to force Islam and Shari'ah Law upon a country - millions have died so this cult can continue to operate -- far more people have died under Shari'ah Law than in the Spanish Inquisition or for that matter, under any religious war ever fought in the world prior to the creation of Islam.

Again, Islam is a religious cult, one of horrific overt as well as many unforeseen consequences that the left have not even considered, but should.

TR| 9.23.10 @ 5:46PM

Just one minor point..Guyana is in S. America not Africa. Next to Venezuela.

Jim-AZ| 9.24.10 @ 4:10AM

"Cult" = unorthodox = unauthorized. It's meaning has been misused because it sounds like "occult" (which means "hidden"). ex. "There was a Jesuit cult."
"Religion" = 1) An organization that teaches ....
2) The beliefs and philosophies that one uses to make their daily choices in life.

T1Brit| 9.24.10 @ 2:56PM

Buddhist religious violence ?

Could you provide a single example of that?

Eric Cartman| 9.23.10 @ 8:29AM

That's why when the Liberal's new pals attack New York again, I'm just going to tsk tsk the news, say "That's a damn shame" and get on with my day. I'll feel bad - how can you not watching people burn and die painful deaths. But I'm through helping or fighting for them. When the religion of Peace is killing Liberals, I plan to just get out of their way. Something like that Kaylie bitch said - why get them upset with me?

Appleby| 9.23.10 @ 6:43AM

I was watching some of the coverage of the Popes visit to Britain and as I noticed the big crowd of protestors (approximately 5% of the crowd that came out to welcome the Holy Father) I thought to myself that the Islamists would likely kill 95% of those protestors for what was written on their signs. Not to mention beating up the women for the way they were dressed.

For some reason the Celebrity Cultists seem to miss the part where women priests, homosexuality, adultery and abortion, not to mention freedom of speech and expression, are punishable by death.

Look North, kids. Honour Killings are already here. And they are not being done by Catholics.

TR| 9.23.10 @ 11:40AM

And those 5% got all of the media attention, not the 95% who welcomed him.

Appleby, you are an informed intelligent poster, and you know why the Celebrity Cultists don't recognize the evil in their heroes. They want approval from their friends. They are insecure little minded children who fear disapproval. And you know that their leaders are the very leftists that want to see this country dismantled and forced into submission.

You and I both know that islam is a clear and present danger to the world. The humans that commited atrocities in the name of Christ hundreds of years ago were not truely Catholics, they perverted the Lord's message to support their evil. The main difference is that we know the truth in the Bible, and we also know the facts that are clearly written in the koran. The koran is a violence instruction manual, the words of Jesus are words of love and peace. And to the Celebrity Cultists, the Bible just isn't kewl.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 11:49AM

We all have skeletons in our collective closets when it comes to religion. We got off of the salvation train a long time ago.
The Church of England is one of the greatest frauds in history - in who's wake saw emormous pain inflicted on Catholics in England and principally in Ireland, aka ethnic and cultural cleansing.
The use of "pernicious" to describe Jewry was only scrubbed from Catholic doctrine during V2 a mere 45 years ago, and their quiet complicity in the purging of Jews from Italy is still being enumerated.
Countless civic interventions were perpetrated by Calvinists and their "total depravity of the soul" schtick, leading to the perversion of any behvior that did not fit within a narrow view.
Closer to home, my grandmother could not vote as a young woman, was a near possession of my grandfather legally (he treated her as an equal, thankfully). She was raised to know and understand that blacks were a "lesser" being, and laws applied to them were justifiably distinct than applied to her own white demo.
The point is we have very little in our history to suggest our own barbaric applications of "natural law" on other human beings could not change until the perpetrators were called out. Deep wounds finally being treated and bandaged with the rule of law being shoved down bigotted throats.
I frankly know little about Islam, but I do know us standing strong in favor of MORE individual rights will ultimately nullify these religious nuisances - not unlike those listed above have been rightfully marginalized.
Anyone using their religion as a justification for a civil remedy is simply wrong - and the moral certitude of the Taliban versus the US extreme right is only divided by degree.
Honor killings exist in Hindu India, Christian Brazil and tribal Africa as well. Explain the parallels to Islam.

ton| 9.23.10 @ 11:57AM

I frankly know little about Islam,

No kidding; your ingorance speaks volumes. Here's an idea; learn something before speaking.

Warrior | 9.23.10 @ 12:20PM

Go to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, Syria, etc. and demand more individual rights. We can then have your severed head mounted as a trophy. Unfortunately, people like you are not an endangdered species.

Fergie| 9.23.10 @ 1:32PM

canuckistani,

Out of your mouth came the answer to your own less than informed comment -- "I frankly know little about Islam, but I do know us standing strong in favor of MORE individual rights will ultimately nullify these religious nuisances ..."

Islam is a nuisance religion? Really? Become informed before you preach about something you know absolutely NOTHING about!

Yes, how many times have people thought the same thing -- lets just keep creating more laws to protect more so-called minorities and these religious nuisances will see the error of their ways -- NOT!

You, and those like you will be the first to convert to protect your sorry asses from being beheaded. They see your thinking as weak and know that people like you are easily intimidated and can be converted simply by watching a few beheadings and stonings, a few loped off right hands, some eyes pulled from their sockets, a few teeth knocked out, a couple of feet hacked off -- the message is clear -- convert or suffer the same. So, like a moron, you convert. Except, if you do something one of your enemies (muslims have enemies everywhere, even in their own families) does not like, you WILL be found guilty, as all those who are dragged before a Shari'ah court are. Then YOU will experience the result of these religious nuisances law, "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life" justice system. Good luck with that when it happens to you.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 3:00PM

Unlike your flaccid nonconfidence, it won't happen in my lifetime.
My ancestors dealt head on with an imperial menace and some did rollover and acquiesce - even changing their names to appease their Windsor masters. My family, on the other hand, said f-off and carried on with their lives. My great great aunt was the only woman shot by the British goons during the Black & Tan cristalnacht, and that tradition of opposition in the face of pure evil has trickled down to me and my immediate family.
What also trickled down was reason, and this BS about Shariah in the US is pure unadulterated racebaiting of the worse kind.
We sit her and conjure up "purity of essence" crap while we are occupying several Muslim countries and manufacture another pretext for invading another?
It is apparently too late for you, my friend, but not too late for my children to thrive in an evolving nation.

Impeach Don't Wait| 9.23.10 @ 3:18PM

"You, and those like you will be the first to convert to protect your sorry asses from being beheaded...."

By the way, there's a prophecy in the Bible's book of Revelation that specifically refers to people of a certain religion (Christianity) being beheaded. Now, think of what population in the world--that is gaining in world influence--who could be the likely future perpetrators of this specific form of punishment for being a Christian. Think hard, now... Communists don't behead people. Atheists don't behead people. Um... Gee, I wonder who.... Well, think about it and then let me know if the following future isn't just a little scary:

"Revelation 20:4 (New International Version)

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

Fredrick Ward| 9.24.10 @ 3:44AM

I have actually thought of this before. Of course, if this is the case then we all have a very long time indeed before the end of days. Or at least I hope that things do not accelerate.

Kishego| 9.23.10 @ 3:08PM

Your moral equivolency is sickening.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 4:04PM

Explain where the wacko right's "values" agenda is not a mirror image of the Koran's disputed passages?
Women: baby containers, no outs. Koran: life of the woman is ok grounds. Wacko right wins.
Wife: subject of the husband (Hukabee/O'Donnell quotes), Koran: same. Draw.
Infidels: no miranda, due process or habeas corpus for foreign suspects. Koran: apply Islamic law equally. Are they inconsistent or are we?
Jihad: we occupy and have bases in at least 8 muslim countries any given day. Wouldn't you be pissed off too?

The only difference is that the Arabs have institutionalized it, where we, thankfully - and not to the right's credit - have not.
Our own wacko right wants to go backwards when we should be accelerating our liberties and entrenching them in the constitution. That's how you defeat extremism at home.
When our hands are clean we can claim the high ground.

njoriole| 9.23.10 @ 5:30PM

Wow, what an absurd piece of moral equivalency! The institutionalized misogyny of Islam and the Arab culture in general is a "draw" with Christians teaching that the wife is the "subject of the husband?" Funny, I don't recall ANY Christian texts advising (very specifically) the size of the rod that husbands should beat their wives with. (Ok, "rule of thumb" supposedly came from such advice - approximately 500 years ago.) Muslim men STILL beat their wives with impunity - not to mention honor killings, forced marriage, sanctioned spousal rape, sactioned non-spousal rape (if she happens to be a Swedish/French/American/etc. etc. "whore", meaning she wore revealing clothes), female genital mutilation. Really canuckistani, wouldn't it be much better for all of us if you wer to return to whichever "-stan" you came from in the first place?

Appleby| 9.23.10 @ 10:34PM

Hey, canukistani, are you going to vote for Smitherman? You do know that the Islamists in Toronto dont care a whole lot for him, right? And you understand why? But YOU wouldnt lift a finger to help. *What can you dooooooooo?* you will whine. That is what your sort do.

Vote for Rob Ford. He is not a communist. Or a Muslim.

Robert Pinkerton| 9.23.10 @ 6:57AM

Communal autonomy for ethnic minorities is counterproductive to assimilating them. Unfortunately, given the current state of law in this country, I see no way of ensuring that this does not happen de facto.

Bob Mack | 9.23.10 @ 7:02AM

Eugene Robinson exemplifies the old saw, "You can't have a battle of wits with an unarmed man." It is truly amazing how much intolerance liberals are willing to tolerate from anyone who actively dislikes America.

Dixie Pixie| 9.23.10 @ 9:32AM

Bob it is real simple.

The Liberals hate us more than they love their principals or beliefs.

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:14PM

I have come to the conclusion that liberals do not have principles or beliefs, none at all. The only belief that have is that they want to feel good. The reason liberals hate conservatives so much is that conservatives do have principles and this prevents them from supporting the liberal agenda. If liberals can get conservatives and their principles out of the way then they can do whatever they want - that is how they see freedom and progress. Obama constantly seems to think like this - he wants to be a law unto himself. A conservative would say that this is anarchy and puts the individual at the mercy of whatever mob is on the streets on that day. I am a conservative for this reason, because it is the only way to protect the freedom and conscience of each individual person.

Liberals like the idea of sharia law precisely because it is another tool they can use to stick to conservatives and their values and principles. Liberals couldn't care less about Islam - what they really want to do is use it as an ally to destroy the things that limit them. But they don't understand that Islam will destroy them too if it ever gets the chance. If it is one thing the Islam despises, it is the secular liberals who do so much to promote it. Liberals are too blind, too bigoted and ignorant and stupid to understand this.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 7:18AM

No religions is a religion of peace, however some religions are more violent than others.

Stephanie| 9.23.10 @ 8:29AM

Okay Alan, we heard you!

TR| 9.23.10 @ 11:43AM

Stephanie, Alan is a troll who will just regurgitate over and over to get a reaction. Just ignore him, he goes away eventually when he can't attract attention to his mindless bullsh*t.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 11:58AM

As a conservative, I do listen to Alan, because he isolates on the hypocrisy of us attempting to analyze another religion with respect to our own.
To not see the moral certitude that exists in EVERY religion is dangerous and needs to be taken in context is a mistake.
I don't see you calling out our own Taliban like Hagee and Robertson - men who are as vile and preposterous as the actual Taliban - who actually have the ear of policy makers that can influence the largest military the planet has ever known. Pretty big stick to be swayed by men like them, don't you think?

Fergie| 9.23.10 @ 1:39PM

canuckistani

I don't hear these men tell their viewers or listeners to go out an strap bombs to their bodies and blow up innocent men, women, and children.

You are so off base with your stupidity its astounding. Since when do American religious leaders run the military?

Stop with your imbecilic rantings -- you are clearly not a conservative -- you are a TROLL, just like Alan -- so go back to Huffington Post or MoveOn.org and get lost!

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 2:51PM

"I don't hear these men tell their viewers or listeners to go out an strap bombs to their bodies and blow up innocent men, women, and children."

Because we vigorously prevent the Hagees and Robertsons from gaining more influence than they have-- and we never let them get into power. And if Palin turns out to want power too much (which looks like the case) we will cut her off at the ankles. That is a promise.

dac| 9.23.10 @ 4:18PM

Brooks you are a laughable little puke. Precisely what are you so worried about if Palin were to be elected President? Be specific. How would your sorry life change at all? I guess your real problem is that Americans MIGHT be more free, the Constitution MIGHT be respected, the U.S. military MIGHT be unleashed to do its job and kill our enemies, foreign and domestic (mainly Muslims these days, but not exclusively)...and of course, the knowledge that some of these things MIGHT happen just makes you queasy, and prompts your pathetic threat.
I'm 75% confident Sarah could kick your ass and gut you like a fish in about 5 minutes. I'm 100% confident her husband would take half the time to accomplish that.
The American people are suffering and chafing under a vile dictator, who overtly despises everything that made this country great, and embraces its enemies...and you're worried about Palin gaining "power." Delusional doesn't begin to describe you and those like you. Go back to living under whatever piss-stained overpass you inhabit.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 4:31PM

Unfortunately for you, I am a true conservative. I believe in liberty, first and foremost. Second, I put back into the community a reasonable share of what I receive, and look for ways to bring equity to the tax burden we pay. We are stronger together than apart.
Third, I believe in American exceptionalism, and work my hardest for correcion when we stray. We pay more for healthcare than anywhere in the world for lesser outcomes. We pay more for education than anywhere else in order to be 15th best. We spend over 50% of the world's military budget with only 5% of the population. Why?
Fourth: The entire "values" proposition promulgated as a salve to wounded religious pride is a fraud and has zero place in modern discourse.
EVERY leader from the "values" village has been shown to be a charlatan, and the wacko right continues to lap it up as an easy explanation for their apparent loss of influence in a changing America.
I do not fear that. I worship the way I want, when I want, and associate with law abiding Americans of every stripe without any hit to my conscience.
I raise my children to obey the law, respect their neighbors and always be curious about the world and how it works.
I hope you hold these four premises as sacred as well.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 5:43PM

"I'm 75% confident Sarah could kick your ass and gut you like a fish in about 5 minutes. I'm 100% confident her husband would take half the time to accomplish that."

Then perhaps Todd ought to run for president instead of her?

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:19PM

For God's sake, go and have a drink or something. Can't you do better than this? At least pretend to be an adult.

cl| 9.23.10 @ 6:50PM

cannuckstan,
1. for tax equity, what is a fair percentage for income tax? should it be a flat tax, or progressive? what is the highest rate the government should take?
2. for education, we pay a lot because there is no competition to the public schools. if there was true competition there would be better schools. the public schools are state-run monopolies, like the industries in the old soviet union/
3. we pay a lot for health care, but it is, or was, the best in the world. would you rather have surgery in any other country? which one?

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 7:01PM

We need a defense tax.
Rove-Bush was the last straw for me, Game Over. No more Bushes, Doles, McCains. No 0ne is going to vote for second or third rate Repuglicans anymore-- except the senile.

Fredrick Ward| 9.24.10 @ 3:54AM

"I don't see you calling out our own Taliban like Hagee and Robertson"

Ok, you're a complete idiot. The Taliban approve of all manner of horrendous deeds that cannot even be listed in such a short space. Hagee, and Robertson are accused of being Christian? Did they once advocate death upon those who do believe as they do? Did they once tell their followers to beat their wives, or to stone them in the street if they dishonored them with teenage sex? I could go on and on, but the vapid cavity within your little head couldn't even fathom honest truth.

One second point is that everyone in this country has the ability to sway policy makers. It just depends on how active you are. Using that power as a citizen of the United States is our right, and our obligation.

ton| 9.23.10 @ 8:51AM

To paraphrase Robert Frost, he liked hearing himself say it; so he said it again. (in spite of its initial and subsequent vacuity).

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.10 @ 9:12AM

Has anybody else noticed that Islam, with its strict rules of earthly enforcement, is not so much a religion as a political system. The Jews, the Christians, the Hindus, the Shintoists, heck even the atheists all concern themselves with the Creator and how he is going to respond to our thoughts and actions.

Fascists, socialists, those who believe in democracy, those who believe in republics, and those who believe in Islam are very much concerned with real time, real world, here-and-now responses to transgressions.

IT IS NOT A RELIGION-IT IS A POLITICAL SYSTEM.

There is no 'freedom of alternative political systems' in our Constitution, is there?

Yet...

Nolite me conculcare

Don't tread on me...

Fergie| 9.23.10 @ 1:49PM

Dan,

Think of it as a religious CULT. Religious cults are very much politicalized religion -- they are strict enforcers of their doctrines and dogma, punishing their members for small insignificant "crimes" against their leaders, even thought crimes are dealt with in a harsh and sever manner. They are forced into total mindless submission by these religious leaders -- thats why there are so many of them preaching the hate message of Islam -- they need them every where. Islam in Iran has taken care of that little troubling aspect of not being able to be everywhere to watch everyone. They have gangs of "religious police." Supposedly regular men are recruited by imams to patrol every district of the country looking for violations of Shari'ah Law.

Google religious cults and see if what is said about them and their practices are not very similar to Islam and muslims.

DieingBreed| 9.24.10 @ 8:06PM

Oh but there are. I believe all it takes is 3/4 of the states to call for a Constitutional Convention which would have the power to make our Constitution null and void and adopt any other form of Government, including Islam and Sharia law if is also ratified by the states.

DieingBreed| 9.24.10 @ 8:13PM

Just try to do away with Islam and Sharia law once it's adopted and see how far you get.

Bobby| 9.23.10 @ 3:55PM

Yo Brooks
What is your address?

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 5:45PM

Right, Bobby, you like force. You want to beat up your adversaries.

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:22PM

Gagging you and roping you to a chair will do fine, for now. If that doesn't work, maybe sedatives will keep you quiet.

Ret. Marine| 9.23.10 @ 7:18AM

I am in the middle of a interesting book these days and it applies totally to this mental mindset of the useful idiots, its called "United in Hate, by Jamie Glazov. It is not as if I didn't already know of their tendencies for such a mindset, its the extent in which they are willingly going about it that frightens me the most. The "useful idiots" are aware of the threat and are behind it all the way right up till their own death. A case of hoping the alligator eats everyone else first. The infiltration of our society has been ongoing for some thirty years now, it is only lately in the past decade the average American has come in contact with it and now recognizes it as the threat is has always been.
I believe the only thing that will insure the safety of our way of life is through the education of our fellow Americans, not the useful idiot types because they are the problem and openly advocating our demise under this totalitarian mindset. It is really sad that so many will have to forfeit their lives before everyone else understands the threat they are involved with and the end result of it. I think I've seen this story in history once before and our greatest generation handled it quite clearly and with no apologies. It time to return to this mindset, and do not take into consideration what these useful idiots have to say whatsoever.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 12:04PM

What was your reaction to black soldiers coming home after WW2? Truman had to step in and shove it down some red necks that all men are created equal. How about women in the workplace? Cute idea or problematic for you?
I believe the nostalgia you so crave really never existed. The country will evolve under law not men, thankfully.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 2:58PM

These "conservatives" (rightwingers) think it was acceptable to draft over a hundred thousand black men, sending them to the lost cause of the Vietnam war.

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:24PM

Oh boy - one of those!

Martin Treptow| 9.24.10 @ 4:35PM

Again with this old trope...

For the zillionth time... everyone, sing along if you know the words...

Vietnam was started for real by a Democrat...
Escalated into a quagmire by another Democrat...
Dropped into the lap of your much-despised Republican, who tried to no avail to shorten it by prosecuting it the way it should have been, and when he couldn't... he ended it.

Here endeth the lesson.

Troll.

Fail.

Cheers!

Fredrick Ward| 9.24.10 @ 4:08AM

Actually, canuck, Ret. Marine was talking about how this country handled WWII. The banding together as a country for the greater good. If you do not know your history, and it is apparent that you do not, women were in the work place. They were the ones building the devices of war, keeping the factories running, and generally keeping this country going while the men were fighting overseas.

Every generation has their problems of ideology, but that does not mean that all that comes from that generation is to be written off as you so happily wish to do.

Andrew B| 9.23.10 @ 7:44AM

Leftists have been so consistently wrong for so many years that I have to assume it is--at least for some--deliberate. For my entire lifetime, Leftists have been screaming "Look over there, creeping Fascism!!", yet there has not been a single serious threat from the Right in the Western world in most of a century.

Now, just for variety's sake, they shriek "Look over there, Christians are coming to enslave us!!" The real threat, of course, is the alliance of secularists and Islamists.

Useful indeed. Idiots indeed.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 3:03PM

"yet there has not been a single serious threat from the Right in the Western world in most of a century."

Because ultra-rightists and fascists were as vigorously repressed -- or more so-- as Communists were.

njoriole| 9.23.10 @ 5:39PM

Sorry Brooks, but we're not falling for that false propaganda. There was never a significant difference between the totalitarian Fascists and Nazis, and the totalitarian Communists. The only difference was in their terminology and emphasis (race and nation for the fascists and Nazis, class for the Commies). Hitler and Stalin had a helluva lot more in common than we had with either of them, which is why it made sense that they were allies at the beginning of WWII. (Recall the famous cartoon of Hitler and Stalin exchanging pleasantries over the prostrate body of the Polish state: Hitler: "The scum of the earth, I believe?" Stalin: "The bloody assassin of the workers, I presume?"

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 5:48PM

The Communists did do us a favor by killing millions of Nazis, it made it easier for our soldiers.

njoriole| 9.23.10 @ 5:56PM

Yeah, I suppose you could say that, but that hardly addresses your obtuse comment, and its impication that "ultra-rightists and fascists" were the polar opposites of Communists, when in fact the were just differnet sides of the same totalitarian coin.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:35PM

That's like saying Communism and Capitalism are the obverse and reverse of the same coin.
It's not the case.
Don't you know what 'antipode' means?

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:27PM

I do - I live there. Please do not come, I like the neighbourhood just as it is.

coal carrier| 9.23.10 @ 8:00AM

One day you lefty-liberal progressives will wake up out of your cocaine stupor and you won’t be in your BMW with some slut you picked up at a Hollywood house party. You’ll be in the middle of a soccer field, tied to the ground and about to be stoned to death for violating the new Sharia Law. And there won’t be a Conservative, Libertarian, Christian or the US Military around to save your sorry ass.

Aaron| 9.23.10 @ 11:14AM

Thanks, Coal Carrier. Right on! Our hallowed culture and heritage is being lobotomized by the lamestream media, jezebels, sodomites, the Supremem Court and all liberal politicians, whether Democrat or Republican. If Pres. Obama were alive today he wouldn't allow this crap!

Bobby| 9.23.10 @ 11:57AM

Bravo

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 12:11PM

Explain to me one time in history when a "lefty" president did not respond to a call to arms that threatened American interests?
Roosevelt was a lefty - got us into WW2, Truman was moderate lefty - dropped the bomb, twice. Eisenhower was a center-right General - red menace rises rapidly under him. Kennedy was a slut-loving elite - battled the red's more than anyone and his spawn Johnson did a Junior and got us in whole hog in SE Asia. Nixon was a defeatist and made deals with everyone, Reagan cut and run from any fight he started and traded with the Iranians. Explain how you have coem the conclusion you have? You can't, can you?

Butterfly53| 9.23.10 @ 1:43PM

THIS president, Canuck, will not defend us. He is minus balls, honor and bravery. He is a spoiled metro-sexual, a sissified maxist. I hope to God he is run out of DC on a rail in 2012 with a win so large by a republican that is will make him go crawl into his mansion in Chi-town with his disgusting wife and stay out of our site for a long long time. I am so sick of seeing his ugly mug on TV and hearing his lying voice on the radio.
I do have the picture of him and Moochelle though on their girly bikes in the rich socialist stronghold of Martha's Vineyard, with his little helmet on in case he falls and bumps his head.
What a non-man.

Fergie| 9.23.10 @ 1:53PM

I would rather have you explain how you came to the conclusion you have? Because many of the presidents you cited as your proof that conservative presidents were weak and sought avenues other than protecting Americans is wrong -- try again, you brain-dead idiot.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 3:10PM

Kennedy did the correct thing in going after the Klan and other far-rightists. TheY were no better than the jihadists-- but the FBI took care of those neo-Confederate swine.

And way back in the day, Lincoln was right to to restrict habeas corpus.
I notice Confederate traitors are more respected by the Right than other traitors.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 4:46PM

My children are starting to have a few friends that believe the bile coming from their wacko right parents. One friend called Obama a sandn---er. I hadn't heard that one since GulfWar1 when my service friends were yucking it up over beers. What's old is new again!
It is disappointing to see otherwise good people become what they detest......

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 5:53PM

It is such a relief Bush is gone. Funny how these people hated the Kennedy dynasty, but the Bush dynasty they accepted, even though both Bushes are less talented than RFK was.
Fortunately, it's about 99 percent likely the Bush dynasty has reached the end of the line. But please don't hold it against Reagan, he made the mistake of choosing Bush as his running mate in 1980-- or, more likely, having Bush foisted on him.

Martin Treptow| 9.24.10 @ 5:30PM

Ah, the myth of Kennedy family "talent". I'm still struggling to be convinced of anything of substance that RFK did, besides die tragically and help with the "Get Out the Vote" initiative in Cook County in 1960. And, as far as his older brother goes, where exactly did his talent lie? Oh, that's right, he was the brilliant writer of "Profiles in Courage".
Oh,wait... oops

And don't get me started on Teddy.

Troll.

Fail.

Cheers!

Petronius| 9.23.10 @ 7:00PM

Spoken like a True Yankee Imperialist. In 1860 the States had Sovereignty and they chose to leave the Union and separate, not overthrow the Federal Government. Rebels they were. Traitors they were not. No matter. The Confederacy was doomed right out of the gate due to infighting among the founders of that government which as a result became sclerotic and dysfunctional. We face our present crisis because the Obama Administration is openly despotic and dictatorial.
Want to see history repeat itself?

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 7:09PM

I don't live in the East, but at least N. England doesn't have thousands of streets, statues, and monuments dedicated to Jefferson Davis, and other turncoats-- they did change their uniforms, did they not? rebel, traitor, no matter. Their cause was bad, they treated blacks like property and they punished for it, for the Fugitive Slave law. The North was patient until Dred Scott, and then that was that.
The South tried to get the Western territories in its orbit, but Dixie got knocked out of orbit by the Union armies.

cl| 9.23.10 @ 9:21PM

dred scott was a decision by the us supreme court . the court "found" a "property right" protected by the constitution to own a slave. the court should have simply enforced a federal statute that made a slave free in he entered a free
territory/state. does this sound familiar about a court making up rights nowhere stated in the constitution?

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 9:32PM

"the court should have simply enforced a federal statute that made a slave free in he entered a free
territory/state."

There you go.

cl| 9.23.10 @ 9:57PM

have simply enforced a federal statute that made a slave free" when "he entered a free...
does the word "when" make it clear for you? or is that the only argument you have.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 10:23PM

"does the word when' make it clear for you? or is that the only argument you have."

We are in basic agreement, one way or another the slaves deserved to be free. If slaves deserved to be freed when entering free states (and perhaps territories that were not slave territories) then overthrowing the Confederacy so that not only the Northern and Western states/territories could be free, but also the Southern as well.

Fredrick Ward| 9.24.10 @ 4:21AM

First off, the KKK are not rightists. They are a part of the Aryan Nation which is aligned with Nazism. Nazism, as any thinking individual would know, has absolutely nothing to do with right leaning political beliefs.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 4:56PM

I don't think he's a strong president, but he's stronger than Junior ever was. It takes courage to not fall to the baser instincts of men. It takes leadership to say "no" to putting young boys in harm's way.
I'll give credit where's it's due: Reagan cut and run from Lebanon and dealt with Iran BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Bush 41 left Hussein in power after GW1 BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
Junior killed our sons based on a lie and let the American people off the hook by not having to pay for it, and left the next guy holding his stinking bag of sh-t. That's cowardice.
The jury is still out on BHO as far as his cojones go. I'll judge when deadlines pass with no action, but his progress on Iran, Israel, Russia, START, China are all vast improvements versus Junior's record. These will pay dividends for American security where Junior only put us further into the pit.
Disagree?

dac| 9.23.10 @ 5:09PM

Progress to cowards like you is turning your ass up in the air to every tyrannical, totalitarian regime that asks to hump you, and then looking back over your shoulder to ask for lube first.

Progress? Iran is building nukes without the slightest discomfort. Russia is modernizing and hardening its nuclear arsenal and laughing at the paper treaty that Il Duce Negro wants the lapdog Senate to ratify. The Chinese are rebuilding the old Japanese concept of the Greater East-Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, except they'll run it this time. Israel knows damn well whose side Il Duce is on, and it isn't theirs, so those in Israel who aren't completely lobotomized are planning for the apocalypse that Iranian nukes are likely to deliver. Does the name Neville Chamberlain ring a bell? Peace in our time? What tyrant, once appeased, has simply said, ok, that's enough, I'll go back to brutalizing my own people now? Give me ONE historical example. Security does not come from cowardice and appeasement--something that perhaps Canucks can't understand, having lived under the security umbrella of America for, well, since about the war of 1812.
Bush 41 and 43 made many, many mistakes. Foremost among them is that the number of muslims and communists they have killed is about 10 orders of magnitude too small. Start taking out square miles of Syrian or Iranian territory with B-2s, then let's "negotiate."
Oh, sorry, "violence" doesn't solve anything. Repeatedly being buggered in the rear by terrorist regimes does. Why don't you move to one of those places, since you believe they're on the "right" side of all of these awful, Republican-initiated conflicts. Leave your US passport, if you have one, at the airport departure gate. Please.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:05PM

"These will pay dividends for American security where Junior only put us further into the pit.
Disagree?"

Agreed; Bush lacked strategic coherence so his momentum fizzled, while Obama has a chance, a good chance-- though of course you know there is no guarantee of success in the Mideast it goes without saying. Those people have been killing each others' kin for thousands of years. It is extremely complicated.
At any rate these Obama haters at AS calling Obama metrosexual, an "affirmative action baby", are hysterical, violently angry at Obama. If it is so that they partially dislike him because he is black, they ought to know how with all the latinos lining up to run for office that Obama might be the last black president.
Then they wont have Obama to kick around anymore.

Jim O'Brien| 9.23.10 @ 8:04AM

Islam does not recognize secular law. Its goal is theocratic rule, the merger of "church" and state. Therefore, it is hostile to our Constitution and freedom. Nazi rule was not an acceptable outcome, and neither is Islamic rule. Mosques and sharia law should be outlawed. Muslim immigration to the U.S. should be halted. Muslims should not serve in our military.

Some people claim that Muslims are a "race", and yell "discrimination! when we condemn their barbaric behavior. Well, Muslims are not a particular race. There are Muslims of various races in virtually every country in the world. There are over a billion Muslims, and a large percentage clearly endorse Islamic terrorism. If they don't, why are they silent? Why don't they fight to kill terrorists? Why aren't they ashamed?

cl| 9.23.10 @ 8:16AM

i agree. there is no separation of church and state in a sharia-muslim state, such as iran. i don't understand why true liberals do not understand this. they constantly complain about maintaining thae "wall" between church and state in the usa, usually by filing lawsuits over christmas nativity scenes. yet they ignore beheadings, stoning of women for adultery, persecution of homosexuals, supression of the press, etc. in muslim countries. maybe the so-called peaceful, one million muslims would not be silent if they saw and heard obama and his fellow travelers condemn the sharia-muslims in clear terms, like ronald reagan did with the evil empire.

Steve A| 9.23.10 @ 8:42AM

The answer to the question of why liberals do not understand their conflicting positions is this: They do understand. Goal #1 of Liberalism is the destruction of the traditional American system of values & economy. ANYTHING that detracts from "America" as we know it, is a plus, regardless of how it may conflict with their supposed "agenda" driven sect. Just as you saw virtually no outrage from womens groups over Bill abusing a young intern in the oval office, you will see no outrage from the left over Sharia intentions. They plan to let it detract from American greatness, step in after the poison has worked, take control & reshape things as they wish.

John Galt | 9.23.10 @ 12:58PM

What possible motive would Liberals have for the "destruction of the American system of values and economy"? To what objective? To what purpose?
To claim this, you must extend and complete your thought. Assume total success by Liberals. What have they accomplished, and what is now in the place of "traditional American system of values and economy"? If you say "Communism", I would say that's ridiculous. How can hundreds of highly educated people (Congress) not know how Communism turns out? (Havana, Warsaw, East Berlin) If you say "Power", I would say, "But how can that be? They already have power." If power was the motive, then it would manifest itself in a desire to take over the rest of the world, not have the rest of the world take over us.

I just don't think that destroying the American system is the motive. I think that Liberals are severely misguided people who simply cannot process what they view in the world through rational thought, objective decision-making, and facts as they are, not as they wish them to be. This is a well-known personality trait. Half of the people are rational, factual people, and the other half are emotional, irrational, feeling-based people. I think the Liberals truly believe that they know what's best for everyone else, and by golly, that's what they're going to force on everyone. They literally cannot be swayed by facts.

(And Clinton didn't abuse her. She was a very willing participant. What he abused was the Presidency, and what he accomplished was yet another generation or two who will view the Presidency as corrupt and immoral, just as generations were led to that belief by Nixon's antics 40 years ago.)

Steve A| 9.23.10 @ 1:32PM

John G, With all due respect, you have missed the mark on several fronts here. Partly because I do not like to write a novel to detail my viewpoint. #1: Yes, the liberals have some form of power, as you say, but wat they seek is CONTROL . They wish to tell me what to drive, how to eat, what to drink, how my children are educated, how much income is too much, what kind of medical treatment to get & on & on. As it stands now, they are only PARTLY succeeding with incremental steps towards that goal. This agenda is in complete contradiction to the foundation upon which this country was based. Namely, self reliance. As for Bill & Monica, my point, expanded, is this. Yes she was willing, but, if it had been Reagan playing hide the cigar in the oval office with a young, impressionable intern, the lib women groups would have screamed absolute murder because, at the base, they are all about advancing liberalism, not women, particularly conservative women, whom they despise. Also, Clinton's actions were so reckless & open to potential blackmail (think about it for a minute) that they completely compromised his presidency & stature. The guy has no class & should have resigned.
The last sentence of your second paragraph sums it up precisely. As for their ultimate vision being hard to comprehend, it is not. It is a society controlled by the elite (them) that is a Utopian paradise of peace, love & equality, mandated by a centralized, all powerful government. They know other similar efforts have failed but believe they are superior to those efforts & know better how to "progress" towards that vision. It is a formula for disaster as evidenced by Rand's novel. As "John Galt" you should know how the story ends without me having to clarify. Peace, Steve

Butterfly53| 9.23.10 @ 1:48PM

That was evident in how they attacked Sarah Palin 2 years ago. It has always been political with the NAGS. They don't care about women really. They just used their viginas and mine to advance their political agenda. It was that way in the 60"s and it's that way now. It'a woman's right to choose. What crap. We know what Margaret Sanger was up to, don't we.

Steve A| 9.23.10 @ 2:07PM

Butterfly, YES, you get it! Plus, you made me laugh.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 3:13PM

"but wat they seek is CONTROL . They wish to tell me what to drive, how to eat, what to drink, how my children are educated, how much income is too much, what kind of medical treatment to get & on & on."

Your slogan is: "LESS GOVERNMENT (that I don't like)

ton| 9.23.10 @ 9:02AM

The answer is simple; the Left and radical Islam share a common enemy -- Christianity. The left will congratulate itself on its "progressive" enlightenment, blindly feeding its baser appetites, mocking Christians who dare to question its twin sacraments of sodomy and abortion, and obtusely defending those can't wait to cut off their heads.
Useful idiots indeed.

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.10 @ 9:15AM

ton,

They might just be stupid; give 'em a break.

Naah! No break for them's that're that stupid!

Mimi| 9.23.10 @ 9:47AM

Are the DEMS about to condemn SHARIA? We all know ..OBAMA is NO Ronald Reagan!!!

Petronius| 9.23.10 @ 7:07PM

cl
You're on to something. Liberals should be barred from office and government. Their Politics is their Religion: same difference. Islam; the church is the state. Liberals; the state is their church.

butterfly53| 9.23.10 @ 8:42AM

Shame should be heaped upon MSNBC for not looking this threat in it's face and calling it what it is. Muslims want to dominate us and our stupid political correctness will let that happen if not checked now. Maybe the republicans will look at this when they take over. I suggest we all write our reps. and senators and exress our concerns.

Bobby| 9.23.10 @ 12:10PM

Islam's hatred of Jews,Christians,Hindu's Buddist's will bring us to a third world war.
I've never been a overly religous person,but I know and I can feel evil,and it is Islam
You look in the eyes of mullahs and clerics and there's a certain wickedness in them

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 12:29PM

Mullahs like Hagee and Robertson?
Your problem is you don't recognize we have our whackos in our midst as well.
You oppose abortion in all its forms. So do I, but I also recognize that human beings make mistakes and the society has a choice to either abandon them or find solutions so the mistakes become less prevalent. Shariah puts all of the burden on women and has escape hatches in nearly every case for men. How is the extreme right's view on abortion any different? Shariah even makes the case that saving the woman is a lesser evil. Imagine.
Shariah puts the rights of adherents over infidels. Our extreme right wants to exclude non-citizens from due process, miranda and habeas corpus. How is this different? Perhaps nuance, but not substance.
We have the death penalty and applaud ourselves with our thoughtful, rational approaches to appeal versus the instant beheadings in the central square. The wacko right is frothing at the mouth against activist judges and the excessive delays from due process, to the point we are executing a woman with the IQ of the average redneck hump.
I am suspicious of Shariah, but I am more suspicious of using "real" America as the justification for the opposition. We have our own Taliban to purge before we can be free.

John Galt | 9.23.10 @ 1:06PM

" Our extreme right wants to exclude non-citizens from due process, miranda and habeas corpus" ?

Really? I think I keep up with the news pretty well, and I don't recall anyone saying that. (I assume you're talking about "extreme right legislators", not just crazy citizens spouting off, yes?)

I know of no legislator who advocates excluding non-citizens from due process, Miranda, and habeas corpus. Please post even a single credible news report in support of this accusation.

As I said in an earlier post, if we are to rise up and defend our nation against Obama, his socialist cronies, and the taking of our individual liberties, then we must hold ourselves to a higher standard. If we are to argue against the liberals and socialists, then our own house must be in order. Every time we make an unsubstantiated claim or accusation, we create the risk of everything else we say being torn down.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 5:03PM

"Two congressional Republicans are questioning whether federal authorities should have read alleged terrorist Faisal Shahzad his Miranda rights after he was arrested late Monday night. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said reading Shahzad his Miranda rights would be a "mistake.""
He's an American citizen, no less, and we have the GOP nominee suggesting this?
What have we become?

John Galt| 9.23.10 @ 1:07PM

P.S. This is a terrific comment. How true.

"I am suspicious of Shariah, but I am more suspicious of using "real" America as the justification for the opposition. We have our own Taliban to purge before we can be free."

Fergie| 9.23.10 @ 1:55PM

canuckistani,
GO AWAY, TROLL!

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 5:05PM

Not a chance. I love it right here next to you.

Butterfly53| 9.23.10 @ 1:55PM

Are you crazy? You are "suspicious of Sharia"?
Maybe you need to get some reading material on sharia law. You think women if not able to have unfettered access to legalized abortion are abused, then you need to read up on sharia law. They are considered half citizens, cannot testify against another muslim, can be stoned to death if she is raped, cheats, looks at another man and God know what else. And you're suspicious?
Well, thank goodness for that.

Ken (Old Texican)| 9.23.10 @ 3:06PM

Canukstani,
You are such a filthy liar. Every time you post, it becomes clerer.... Please keep posting.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 3:19PM

Confederates were jihadists, of a sort.
Lincoln was right to suspend habeas corpus.

Petronius| 9.23.10 @ 7:21PM

The Union Army were the jihadees. They were the invaders. Idiot!
And we will not be ruled by you Dhimicrats now.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 5:06PM

What have I lied about? Suggesting Texan presidents should be banned for eternity?

Ken (Old Texican)| 9.23.10 @ 5:37PM

Canukistani,
Thank you. You continue to make my point so much better than I could.

You are not only a filthy liar, but an ignorant filthy liar.
Please, keep posting and prove it.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:11PM

Jefferson Davis should have been horse whipped- he was a traitor during the entire course of America's worst war.
However I'm glad some of you here displaying unconcealed hatred for Obama; you are showing your true colors.

Fredrick Ward| 9.24.10 @ 4:59AM

Well, let's recap. Obama is doing his best to destroy the Constitution, and doing all he can to turn this country into a socialist state. Actually, the best speech about all he has done wrong was given by Mike Pence. You may read it here: http://spectator.org/archives/.....the-presid

You probably already did, but it sounds like you need to do so again.

Martin Treptow| 9.24.10 @ 6:09PM

Mr. Brooks,

The "you disagree with President Obama's policies, so you are a racist" assertion never really had much grounds in the first place, but it falls completely flat now.

On the contrary, the day President Obama was elected most residual white guilt in America died.

And, while amusing, your constant insertion of the "traitorous Confederacy" into our 21st Century discussions seems out of place.

As a 1890's Liberal (present-day "Conservative") I am the philosophical descendant of Abraham Lincoln, not Jeff Davis. But, nice try. Do you have anything else besides "you're a racist! and/or your ancestors were racists!".

Troll.

Fail.

Cheers!

Aaron| 9.23.10 @ 10:19PM

You're right, Jim. Muslims are unwilling to condemn acts of terrorism because they are not free. Sharia law and it's executors intimidate them into silence.

Jeremiah| 9.23.10 @ 8:15AM

The United States government is obligated by the Constitution to protect the rights of every American citizen. How tragic that the idiot left, believing itself to be 'tolerant' by either supporting or turning a blind eye to sharia in America, fails to defend the rights of Muslim Americans who are tyrannized by sharia. What many of them came here to escape by emigrating to the land of the free, they discover that the idiot left is tolerant only of their oppressors and will not defend them.

The penalty for apostasy in Muslim countries is death. It should not be so in America, but the idiot left is busy playing footsie with the Raufs and other imams. What a nightmare. I am coming to absolutely loathe the contemptible sophistry of the left that costs real people their lives while the elites party in their gated communities.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:31PM

Plenty of Repuglicans in gated communities.

Petronius| 9.23.10 @ 8:16AM

Faced with a predator a lefty will do anything but fight, but they love the muzzies because they kill Christians. Christians have a rule they hate about fornicating only with one's mate of the opposite sex. And, there's the mutual hate for capitalism which requires that one compete with his fellows to earn a living. On the matter of converting to Islam or getting decapitated, the lefty would rather be dead than have to behave like a civilized person and keep his pants on.

Roy| 9.23.10 @ 9:11AM

"On the matter of converting to Islam or getting decapitated, the lefty would rather be dead than have to behave like a civilized person and keep his pants on."

I agree, which is why they'll never really get along with Muslims. The only reason they kiss up to radical Muslims is because both hate Christians.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 3:24PM

"And, there's the mutual hate for capitalism which requires that one compete with his fellows to earn a living."

But you wont let blacks and others compete with your families; and you use the state to enrich your elderly. If you don't like big government, then take care of your grandparents, don't expect the state to.
But many of you are not conservatives-- you are merely rightists.

Kishego| 9.23.10 @ 3:45PM

Alan WTF are you talking about, we won't let blacks and others compete with our families. Quit projecting your pathology on everyone else. Its quite evident that you and that other POS canucki have a sickness in your mind. You only bare what's in your own heart with this abject non-sense.

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 5:16PM

Alan is mostly correct (the black competition thing is more difficult to explain), but "big" government occurred on the GOP's watch, not the dems. Get your facts straight before you flail away. I pity you for not realizing the error of your ways.
National debt: tripled under RR and Bush1. Went down under Clinton, way down, and Junior killed the surplus and starting running deficits again as the economy was managed into the ground. Greenspan agreed with the Junior tax cuts, not because it was ideologically sound, but because we were running surpluses to the point that the fed would start competing with the market. Boohoo. Is this nonsense or do you consciously choose to ignore facts? I didn't vote for BHO, and I have a right to know what our guys did to get us into this ditch.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:19PM

Like his father, Bush displayed a lack of strategic coherence. My big question is: why did he wait until '07 to unleash the 'Surge' in Iraq? why if it was so crucial was the Surge not set in motion in '05 or '06? Perhaps they can't admit how tens of thousands of troops were transported from Afghanistan to Iraq to implement the Surge there.

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:32PM

Hmm, on the subject of lacking strategic coherence, may I present to the court, exhibit A?

Petronius| 9.23.10 @ 6:28PM

AB
It's time you were told. Work is a Duty. Employment is a privilege. So is association. Our businesses are just that; OURS! And a business is not a support group. To an individual proprietor, it is his personal empire. And he should have the liberty to hire, promote, and trade with who he wants. If the creme-de-la-creme carriage trade firms can do it, why can't the ordinary merchant? If trendy nightspots can bar anybody for any reason, why can't a bar or restaurant owner in any other city do the same? His practices are no concern of yours or any government entity unless he causes clear and demonstrable harm to his neighbors. My grandfather ran his own business over 29 years and the above is His philosophy.
So go find your binkie and leave the adults alone.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:44PM

Then stop asking young workers to fund your well off elderly parents and grandparents-- give them YOUR money.

So up yours.

Petronius| 9.23.10 @ 7:37PM

My aging mother has little and my portfolio is hers if she needs it. My deceased grandparents left nothing.
And I did not write the F***ing Social Security Act or vote in Congress to pass any entitlement programs which should all be abolished. A shit beetle has more common sense. If assholes had a hall of fame, you'd be in it.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 8:28PM

" and my portfolio is hers if she needs it."

Then give it to her, now. BTW, why didn't your grandparents leave her anything? were they poor and lazy? you want to be confrontational, but you can only dish it out-- you can't take it.
And I don't care what you redstaters think. You say (for the fifth time):

"I'M AGAINST BIG GOVERNMENT (that I don't like)

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 8:03PM

"The Union Army were the jihadees. They were the invaders. Idiot!
And we will not be ruled by you Dhimicrats now."

Dixie deserved to be invaded, Dixie was a liar and a traitor- saying she "only wanted to be left alone". Dixie wanted power over the Western lands; power over blacks.

Until Dixie was so rudely interrupted.

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:33PM

Have you started to foam at the mouth yet?

Martin Treptow| 9.24.10 @ 6:17PM

Mr. Brooks,

As a frequent post-watcher, I have noticed that you are always drawing that danged old War of Northern Aggression into discussions that have nothing to do with it. Why is this?

Again, as I'm sure most people that read AS would revere President Lincoln, what is it that makes you think that anyone here sees the Civil War as anything other than what it was?

Hell, I live in Atlanta, and no one here gives a shit about "Dixie", so why do you?

Troll.

Fail.

Cheers!

hardcard| 9.23.10 @ 8:17AM

Appeasement is suicidal, when will we learn from the past?? That little iranian despot is strutting his stuff in our face, at the temple of social justice, the united nations again. Kiss a tyrants ass and you get a genocide. Peace is at hand remember?

Louis Jenkins| 9.23.10 @ 8:21AM

Another article condemning Islam. How many more articles before the nation comes to understand the threat of Islam? Not enough! Shariah law? Taquah law? These very terms and what they represent do not fit into the US's way of life. Oh sure, there will always be the leftists to harp on this "newer" red dawn, and how it is acceptable, but those of us who've bothered to read, toured or visited the mid-east and other parts, and understand, have come to realize that the threat of Islam is real, dire, and not to be taken lightly. A theocracy form of government is everything contra to what we believe in. I do not want to see my daughters wearing burkas, nor be dismantled under the knife of sexual modification, or treated as less than sheep or goats. Wake up America! Fight like there is no tomorrow! We've only a few short years.

Louis Jenkins| 9.23.10 @ 2:40PM

A thought inspiring article:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot......imism.html

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 5:21PM

I'm more concerned about shariah law that is seeping into the wacko right's psyche.....abortion under no circumstances, gulag's for pregnant girls? No gay marriage, but continued civil benefits for heteros? DADT when women and blacks went through the exact same thing - only to prove they made the services stronger? etc etc. Stupid on us for letting the puritans in the front door. It is a complete distraction.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:24PM

"No gay marriage, but continued civil benefits for heteros"

Even Goldwater knew that gays who fight in the Services, risking their lives, should be granted maximum freedoms. These people have such a limited sense of justice, Canuckistani; they think only they and theirs' ought to enjoy maximized freedom. They are not conservatives, they are rightwing pigheads.

Petronius| 9.23.10 @ 6:33PM

And I'm sure you would have turfed them out had they landed at Port Royal, Nova Scotia instead of Massachusetts.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:49PM

Massachusetts? you are East Coast-centric. Maybe you think America ends west of the Appalachians.

Negro X| 9.23.10 @ 10:31PM

Please explain how gays will make it better you liberal hack.

Jmulcahy| 9.24.10 @ 4:39AM

You claim to be Irish (which I doubt) and yet you believe the injunction against abortion of any kind is new. This has been the teaching of the Catholic Church for 2000 years, well before your vaunted shariah.

I agree with Ken. Everything you say rings hollow. I have corrected you before on the issue of "honor killings" in Brazil. The defense was outlawed in Brazil and had to do with a "crime of passion": a spouse walks in on his/her spouse in flagrante delicto. That is not the moral equivalent of your daughter wanting to date vtwin and you arranging to have your son and brothers kill your daughter (and hopefully vtwin) which goes on wherever Islam thrives.

You slander American conservatives and call yourself a conservative. I have seen no evidence of it. You are not an American and your saying you do not know much about sharia is taqqiya at its best.

davelnaf| 9.23.10 @ 8:39AM

Come on, give MSNBC a break. If you had their ratings wouldn't you do just about anything to get them out of the toilet? When it comes to the Old Media no gimmick is beneath them, literally.

JP| 9.23.10 @ 8:59AM

AIG is quietly pushing its Sharia compliant investment portfolios - all at the urging of the White House. Sharia Law forbids the use of usury (collecting interest driven dividends); but, captial gains are just that, in most cases.

There is nothing untold in using religious principals in making investment decisions. A Catholic university would not wish its endowment being used to subsidize contraception, for instance. However, AIG is doing something quite different. One wonders how exactly the people underwriting these Sharia compliant bonds advertise them? Are investors made aware that AIG is not using the profit principal when building some of its intsruments. And then there is the danger of money laundering for organizations like Hamas.

Yes, Sharia has come to Wall St, and it has nothing to do with a mosque.

Dan Hirsch| 9.23.10 @ 9:22AM

Our pastor explained a practice which the Jews practiced in Old Testament times. To avoid charging interest, which they were enjoined from, they simply recorded a debt as more than was owed. So when buying 100 amphorae of wine, the debt was recorded as 120.

Surely some Wall Street genius will figure this out and profit by trading against the dupes buying their sharia-compliant portfolios.

Do you really believe that the anti-apartheid mutual funds set up in the '80's and '90's were not gamed by traders? Have you finished this year's letter to Santa, yet?

JeffT| 9.23.10 @ 10:32AM

Just remember the name Walter Duranty. He worked for the truth-challenged (then and now) NYT. The Soviet Union is a "paradise," honest, I've seen it! Sound like the CBC and their assessment of Cuba after taking the proscribed tour and drinking the Kool-Aid.

Spyder308| 9.23.10 @ 10:39AM

1. Stewart and Colbert are comedians.

2. No one in America is supporting Sharia law. It is anathema to our American code of law. No left wingers are in favor of it. For one thing it is completely opposite to liberal thinking. It fits conservative thinking better, but no conservative I have heard, no matter how far out there, is even close to the thinking of Sharia law. Sharia law is however based on the Old Testament principles of justice. If you are locked into a literal reading of the Old Testament like stoning the neighbor farmer for planting two crops in the same field, Sharia law might make some sense to you.

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 9.23.10 @ 12:00PM

“No one in America is supporting Sharia law”. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
Recently a man claiming that Islam allowed him to brutalize and rape his wife had the charges dismissed by a New jersey judge because the abuser, a practicing mooslim, was only following his religion of pieces: http://blog.heritage.org/2010/.....n-america/
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
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“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.” - Qur'an:9:5
Only 850 days to go

Spyder308| 9.23.10 @ 3:34PM

I was in error on the "no one." I was only referring to sane people. I assumed that is waht we were talking about. And "recently a man somewhere beat wife" is kind of vague. I have a conservative friend I believe to be insane. He wants Pat Robertson to take over as King of America.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 10:29PM

"Only 850 days to go"

So you admit Obama will serve out his full term-- that he will not resign?

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 9.23.10 @ 11:11PM

I only predict that 850 days from now, we shall either have a new President or a kommie dick-tater.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
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Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.” - Thomas Jefferson
Only 850 days to go

ton| 9.23.10 @ 12:06PM

"2. No one in America is supporting Sharia law. It is anathema to our American code of law. No left wingers are in favor of it" ??????

This bit of obtuse delusion would hilarious if it were less deadly to the body politic. Do any of these people know anything not gleaned from MTV and the NYTimes? Public education on display. God help us.

tdiinva| 9.23.10 @ 11:03AM

Spyderman:

I have often asked Hamas and PLO loving liberals why they support a group of anti-choice, homophobic, misogynist Muslims over a people, the Israelis, who agree with the tenants of liberalism 100%. I have never gotten a clear answer from them.

It's not that liberals would actually support real Sharia, but as in all other things Liberals imagine Sharia to be consistent with socialist principles. Liberals of course are not liberal at all. They are Fascists in the true (not Stalinist name calling version) sense of the word. Muslims hate the same thing that Liberal hate.

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 9.23.10 @ 1:28PM

Sharia is consistent with the fundamental socialist principle: both seek to empower a small self-selected group of male elites to impose their will on the rest of us.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
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“A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.” - Thomas Jefferson
Only 850 days to go

Will| 9.23.10 @ 11:04AM

Excellent piece.
I'd forgotten about Andy Young's remarks,(he's still on the dole somewhere ain't he?) It's indeed alarming to the extent the bastards have infiltrated the country, government etc. I wouldn't have believed it years ago, but looking back, can now clearly see how this has come to pass. With luck, we can get some courageous people in office and start addressing this extremely serious problem.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 6:26PM

Obama is not Carter, and you KNOW it.
His administration is not similar to Carter's.

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:38PM

Yes, this is true. Carter served in the military and did not need an autocue to talk to school kids. Carter also attacked Iran, although he got no further than Desert One. Obama won't even get that far.

Gates of Vienna| 9.23.10 @ 11:24AM

Can someone tell me the difference between "militant islam" as the author describes and plain old islam? Seems to me to be one and the same, no?

VBMax| 9.23.10 @ 11:42AM

The Left has a death wish (for the rest of us).

Historyscoper | 9.23.10 @ 12:42PM

Islam is a religion of peace only after you accept its peace terms of Sharia, meaning Muslim superiority and domination and elimination of freedom. Until then Muslims wage ceaseless war to obtain it. Keep up Islam with the Historyscoper at http://go.to/islamhistory

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 9.23.10 @ 1:33PM

Yesterday ‘American Spectator’ posted an article by Aaron Goldstein titled “Who Is the Next Molly Norris?” The following is taken from a comment I posted then: The koolalition “would be absolutely outraged if the Jews sought to impose their religious beliefs on us. (They) would be absolutely outraged if the Catholics sought to impose their religious beliefs on us, or the Mormons, or the Baptists. So how come the religion of tyranny gets a pass?” However, after deep meditation over a bottle of George Dickel, I have had a change of mind.
Under Islam:
1) the Secretary of State, the lady in chief and the speaker of the brothel would be forced to wear burqas;
2) bunny fwank’s voice would be silenced;
3) gay marriage would not even be a topic of conversation;
4) all males would be circumcised; I think all females as well;
5) there would be no campaign ads;
6) church attendance would be mandatory;
7) daily prayer would be mandatory;
8) abortion would be prohibited;
9) the fate of adulteresses would encourage proper behavior among men simply due to a shortage of partners;
10) No more gay-pride parades;
11) If my daughter even talks to a boy I dislike, I can whack off her head;
12) obummer might never again place his shoes on an oval office desk..

There are many other benefits to America from following the dictates of a secretive ayatollah, surely a small trade for OUR Lives, Liberties and Pursuits of Happiness.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
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“Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us.” - Tabari IX:69
Only 850 days to go

canuckistani| 9.23.10 @ 5:25PM

Explain how this list is not taken verbatum from Hagee/Huckabee/Angle's playbook?
The Taliban is already here. Wake up.

njoriole| 9.23.10 @ 5:50PM

Yes canuckistani, you've got us there: we really MUST come together in solid opposition to those Christianist preachers who keep running around sawing off heads, hanging homosexuals from construction cranes, and stoning adulterers. Who would have believed such a thing could happen in 21st. Century America? *sarc off*

TR| 9.23.10 @ 6:18PM

Explain how it is, you ignorant troll.
I know Sharron Angle, and you are an ignorant a**hole.

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 9.23.10 @ 11:01PM

So what if it is? Doesn’t make it less true. Maybe it’s a sign that great minds think alike. Even though I can’t recall who Hagee is, don't watch Huckabee’s show, and only know Sharron Angle from the numerous pleas for money I’ve seen and heard from her campaign to liberate OUR Constitution from the obummer, nanny botoxic and hairy red satanic troika, which is an inspiring argument as far as I’m concerned, I agree with you that the Taliban is already here. It’s leader is the one who actually studied the religion of pieces as a child in Indonesia. Amazing that you defend the very ones seeking to crush us under the heels of tyranny by attacking those who only wish us Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. I suppose your favorite flavor of kool-aid is cherry.
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“I also know that Islam has always been a part of America's story.” - barry who-sane obummer
Only 850 days to go

Jim O'Brien| 9.23.10 @ 1:45PM

This report from June 2009 describes sharia courts operating in England. Are we going to allow religious laws and sharia courts to compete with and undermine our Constitution, judicial system, and freedom? Mosques and sharia courts should be outlawed in the U.S.. This is not about religious freedom. They are subversive, just as if they were outposts of the Third Reich or the Politburo. The Ayatollah Khomeini once said that "Islam is politics or it is nothing". Obama and his fellow liberal fools are ignorant of the facts, totally incompetent, and/or sympathetic toward Islamic rule. The jury is out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....eport.html

Ralph Novy| 9.23.10 @ 1:46PM

Cuckoo. Cuckoo. Cuckoo.

Albert| 9.23.10 @ 1:59PM

"Islam's apologists will not only sell the jihadists the rope to hang westerners but will acquit them through Sharia law after they do." Actually, I think Islam's useful idiots will sell the jihadists the machetes they will cut westerners' throats with.

Redstateboy| 9.23.10 @ 3:21PM

One of my favorite little daydreams... Parachute a few thousand of America's greatest Liber-ul apologists down on to the streets of Kirachi, Pakistan and listen as they cry like little school girls screaming for US Marines to save them.

Redstateboy| 9.23.10 @ 3:25PM

"Islam - the Religion of Peace"

by: Daniel Pearl

Fionnagh| 9.24.10 @ 12:27AM

Best post of the entire thread. You nailed it, Redstateboy.

Oldefarte| 9.23.10 @ 3:47PM

George's article really hit the bullseye concerning MSNBC's Joe [although constantly declaring his conservative philosophy and his Alabama Alumnus status, is about as conservative as the Pope is Jewish]; Mika [daddy's/Ziggy's girl ultra liberal and indoctrinated Jew basher] and Gene [the so-called award winning journalist who's about as intelligent as Secretariat the horse]. This morning political talk show is nothing more than a E-Intertainment News Show for a constant lineup of moronic liberal bandwagon beaters for the causes of progressives. Their TV agenda is thoroughly sickening and putrid!!!!!!!!!!

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 9.23.10 @ 11:37PM

Oldefarte, please don’t insult horses by implying that any of the hype and chains kool-aid kool-alition are as intelligent as any of that noble species. In the particular case of Secretariat, he was smart enough to earn a cool $1,316,808 for approximately 35 minutes of work, and he worked exceptionally hard for that money. After that he was retired to a life of having the owners of numerous fillies pay thousands just so the girls could carry one of his babies. His cousin, Seattle Slew (the only undefeated Triple Crown Champion) was granted a college degree for his consulting work in equine spinal therapy.
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“Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.” - W.C. Fields
Only 850 days to go

sparky3650| 9.23.10 @ 3:49PM

I know of no legitimate religion where mainstream leaders call for violence as the leaders of Islam do. Period.

It is not some fringe that wants to kill us, it is the highest authorities of Islam in countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc.

Let's stop pretending that there is such a thing as "moderate Islam". There is not. Sure probably 90% of Muslims just want to live in peace but that leaves a 100 million or so who want to kill us.

Jim O'Brien| 9.23.10 @ 4:14PM

I also suspect, or would like to think, that most Muslims want to live in peace, away from violence and terrorism. However, it is puzzling and very disturbing that they are silent about atrocities, past, present and presumably future. Are they afraid to speak up, thinking that the Islamic "mob" will put out a contract on their lives? Are they in silent agreement with terrorism? Do they all think religious law should trump secular law?

Whatever. The United States should not accommodate the growth of this cancer called Islam. It is subversive to our Constitution, the foundation of this country. It is completely at odds with the individual rights and freedom that millions of Americans have died to protect. An Islamic America would mean the death of freedom, just as if we had lost the war with Hitler or the Cold War with the USSR.

dac| 9.23.10 @ 4:28PM

Jim, agreed, let me suggest a great book re your first paragraph's question: Lee Smith "The Strong Horse." Does a better job than anything I have read of explaining why Muslims and Islam are the way they are, and act the way they act. It's chilling. Smith by the way lived most of his life like a standard leftist puke (think Alan Brooks, Vtwin, canuckistani trolls on this site--so holier than thou, so delusional and smugly superior to everyone)--then 9/11 happened and to his great credit, he said, fuck, I need to understand this thing that just whacked us. And understand he did, the product is this book. Enjoy.

Jim O'Brien| 9.23.10 @ 6:00PM

Thanks, I will check it out. Two others (which you may have read) are The Crisis of Islam by Bernard Lewis and Reflections on the Revolution in Europe, by Christopher Caldwell. Also, World War IV - The Long Struggle Against Islamofascism, by Norman Podhoretz.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 8:12PM

What I can't stand is bloggers here defending the bad cause of the Confederacy-- it was as bad a cause as Wahhabiism.
All the Confederate soldiers who died and were mutilated did not die for the South, they died for the twin bad causes of slavery and the encroachment of slavery through Dixie's pushing to admit slave states into the Union. And the fugitive slave Act were abominations.
The grave of the Confederacy is cursed in Hell for all eternity-- and may Jefferson Davis be tortured in Hell for all eternity, until Hell itself freezes over.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 8:20PM

The fugitive slave laws were hideous:
may the ghost of the Confederacy be tortured in Burning Hell forever and a day.

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:41PM

Do you have a girlfriend - what on earth do you talk about when you go on a date? You seriously need to get your ashes hauled, and soon.

Petronius| 9.24.10 @ 12:57AM

I now Chair the Membership Committee of Hell.
The day you show up Here I will indulge myself by throwing you in with the roofers. Bad as they may be, they will wonder what they did to deserve you for company.
On the subject of the Confederacy and Her defense against the Northern Invasion, the Yankee's motive was money. Slavery was their moralistic boiler plate. In the mid 1830's Southern planters began shipping raw cotton to Lancashire mills in British bottoms, thereby cutting out the ship owners from Baltimore to Boston. So they bitched about those planters utilizing slave labor because They were no longer getting their cut. Add to it their natural resentment to the fact that there were more millionaires in Mississippi than Manhattan and that Yankee members of Congress wanted to get their hands on that wealth. Northern ports charged up to 25% tariff for the landing of goods while the ports on the Gulf charged only 10%.
Your thinly disguised belief that the Union victory sanctifies your social attitudes and condemns mine is arrogant in the extreme. But that was the object of the exercise. For my part, the political motives for secession were justified. Lastly; those Soldiers in gray who took up their arms against Yankee oppression were better Men than you will ever be.
I am amused by the post below recommending carnal activity to you. But as this country and the outside world are not good enough to accommodate your enormous ego, I suggest you go fuck a cactus.

Concerned American| 9.23.10 @ 6:00PM

First of all, Sharia is only mentioned in the Qur'an as "the right path." Everything after that is merely an interpretation by Islamic scholars. That has always been an important avenue to reach out to global Muslims on human rights issues. However, that avenue is now blocked by the American anti-Islam movement.

The problem today is that the anti-Islam extremists are working to undermine any moral credibility that Americans have on human rights issues, by seeking to deny freedom of religion, worship, conscience, and by those anti-Islam extremists promoting violence and hate (and some actually committing violence.)

In terms of furthering the discussion on strict Sharia and human rights, the anti-Islam extremists are moving that discussion backwards 10 years, and they are working to become like radical Islamic extremists themselves.

There are well-known problems with strict Sharia in the ways it is implemented in some parts of the world that are human rights arguments. But you can't expect those arguments to be heard through the wild rants of the anti-Islam crowd today.

There are plenty of Muslims who reject Sharia entirely, but since Sharia is just an interpretation, that is only a partial victory. The idea that strict Sharia law would be part of US law is patently absurd and wildly inciteful. There are places where this is a legitimate human rights debate, but American law makes it an absurd discussion here.

Every day the anti-Islam movement continues, it is only guaranteeing ONE THING - it will prolong the use of strict Sharia around the world, and it will make it more and more difficult for American human rights activists to ever be able to discuss it without looking like total fools, due the anti-Islam melodramatic paranoia over Sharia in U.S.

That is not a left-wing or right-wing issue. It is a human rights issue.

Jim O'Brien| 9.23.10 @ 6:46PM

A very brief, incomplete summary of Islamic accomplishments:

http://www.johnstonsarchive.ne.....rism1.html

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 7:18PM

"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.” - Thomas Jefferson"

All you do is quote Jefferson, Adam Smith, the Austrian School of economics thinking such will cut it.
But not anymore.

TaterSalad| 9.23.10 @ 7:46PM

Wake up America before it is to late. Our immigration laws need to be changed "immediately" the the internal problem "corrected"!

http://creepingsharia.wordpres.....ica-video/

Kevin Riley O'Keeffe | 9.23.10 @ 8:38PM

Keeping out the Mexicans is a Hell of a lot more important than keeping out the Muslims, but she should find the will to do both.

Alan Brooks| 9.23.10 @ 8:16PM

We wasted eight precious years with Bush. Plus four years with his father; 12 years down the drain.
Obama can only improve the situation.

Christopher Holland| 9.23.10 @ 10:46PM

Right, now you are really hitting your straps! The solution to a big problem is to have an even bigger one - at least the first problem won't seem so bad. So if you have a headache, get a hammer and hit yourself on the head, really hard. That is what the Obama Presidency is like - a guy with a headache, hitting himself with a hammer and saying 'this is the way to fix that damn headache that Bush gave me'.

Really Alan, do you ever think about the drivel that you come up?

ed| 9.24.10 @ 8:47AM

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

David C| 9.24.10 @ 4:22PM

You are correct, Obama has improved the situation. You have hit on a key point.

Millions who were not interested in seizing power in the USA are now interested. The Islamic threat was on very few radar screens. Our elected lord has changed all that.

Tick tock

Kevin Riley O'Keeffe | 9.23.10 @ 8:36PM

Khomeini was a Persian patriot. Our interests, and those of Iran, don't happen to coincide.

Tony in Central PA| 9.23.10 @ 10:01PM

As I approach middle age, it has become increasingly obvious to me that the true enemy of the Left is and has been orthodox Christianity. The Left will consistently align itself with any ideology that identifies Christianity as an enemy. We saw this with Communism, now we're seeing it with Islamism. I believe the hatred within the Left for Christianity is so implacable that many in the camp would rather live under sharia than in a society that allows Christians the freedom to both believe and practice their faith.

cl| 9.23.10 @ 10:13PM

i have been reading these posts for the past several weeks, and have concluded that alan brooks and canuckstani enjoy being the skunks at a picnic. they were probably banned from the lefty websites because both say they are conservatives, even though the content is neither conservative or a true liberal. it is mostly lunacy and criticize everything about the usa while saying they love the usa. they know they could not say one percent of what they say if they lived in the muslim countries they both praise.

Yosemeti Sam| 9.24.10 @ 12:29AM

Let's cut to the chase via historical example of curbing Moorish-like agendas - Yo, El Cid!

ed| 9.24.10 @ 8:41AM

three things about islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w

Scubbysteve| 9.24.10 @ 10:25AM

No group that believes in and preaches a doctrine of hate and intolerance from a book that encourages murder, enslavement, extortion, and religious war is a justifiable religion, nor is the Koran a bible....they are a cult, and it is a book of sin, hate, and domination...written to serve the designs of Satan. America needs desparately to join Australia, and become an Islamic, Muslim, Sharia-free environment.

ljc| 9.26.10 @ 12:23AM

What BHO seems to want to bring to the US is the Declaration of the Rights of Man(written by Tom Paine and The French. "All rights derive from the Nation" [the govt]. Sounds good, but then the Declaration lists all the things the Nation can do to citizens--no rights derived from the Creator, no bill of Rights--just the power of the Nation.

RCV| 9.27.10 @ 6:21PM

Nonsense! Both Paine's "The Rights of Man" and the "French Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen" expressly affirm that "Men are born and remain free and equal in rights" and that they have certain natural rights to property, to liberty and to life.

Tenn Slime| 9.26.10 @ 8:26AM

Having lived thru the McCarthy era, the NAM era, the Post Grebachov era, and now trying to get on into the 21st century, I review these History Articles with some angst, some humor.
There is and always will be, supporters, hangerson, empathizers, of ANY oddball philosophy that comes down the pike.
Sharia Law, however, is not such. This one is the end game for Western Culture, Religions, and the USA Republic. We tolerated and subdued Communism, rightly enough, but this is a whole nother ball game.
Sharia Law, folks, read the Koran, read the Prophet, read the older texts, of "Masters of Deciet", compare, correlate, and then heed the signs.
Complementing ideologies never complement, they eventually dominate.
end

QuietPro| 9.26.10 @ 1:28PM

Having spent several recent years in the Middle East, and talking to all manner of it's peoples from 4 different Arabic nations, it must be understood that Islam means, literrally, "Surrender". It means total conversion and giving your life over to the will of Allah. It means that Muslims have a duty to convert other religions; and don't beleive in co-existance. One of their main tenants is "There is no God but Allah, and Mohummad is his prophet." There is no compromise with this ideal.

Liberals and progressives like to think we can all live peacefully and co-exist together, side by side and maintain our differences. I'm here to say, it ain't so. Tenn Slime is correct; competing idealogies do not complement; they seek domination.

America, stop worrying about "offending" Muslims. Stop apologizing for imagined sleights. Obama, Stop appeasing them. Stop bowing to them. Stop caving to their demands. They will never regard you as anything near an equal, until you "Surrender".

9/11, The USS Cole, Khobar Towers, Beiruit, Pan Am 103, Afghan and Iraq, OPM/SANG in Saudi Arabia, The Kenyan Embassy....... These events all occured within a relatively short span of time in American history. And it showed me everything I ever needed or wanted to know about the "Religion of Peace."

Bill from WV| 9.27.10 @ 12:58PM

Mika will look great in a burka. Maybe her old man will enjoy watching how she will be abused, or maybe he will flee with her to somewhere else and leave the rest of American women under the muslim whip!
MRD

Tracy| 9.27.10 @ 4:54PM

What do the LEADERS of the religion say it is? The Pope tells Catholics what to beleive and how to act. Who are the leaders of Islam? And what do they say about what to beleive and how to act? It seems the leaders of Islam are in Saudi Arabia and Iran. What are they telling their followers, we love or death to everyone but us?

Joanna | 6.6.11 @ 6:13AM

The time is definitely right for change.
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