In this
piece that also quotes our good friend Craig Shirley to nice
effect, Matt Kibbe of Freedom Works and Amy Kremer of the Tea Party
Express both make an absolutely crucial point -- one which is now
becoming accepted wisdom even though just two years ago all the
cognoscenti scoffed at it. The wisdom is that limitations on
government actually are popular. To quote the article:
To put up the best fight possible, though, Kibbe says he would
advise O'Donnell "to focus on the fiscal issues of constitutionally
limited government and stopping Congress from spending money it
doesn't have."
Kremer says this tactic, familiar in this election cycle,
could be enough to propel O'Donnell and her fellow Tea Partiers to
Capitol Hill.
"When most people go to the polls this year, they're
voting on the economy," Kremer said. "This whole movement was born
out of the excessive taxation, the out-of-control spending, the
government intrusion. And people are fed up with it.
"It's the fiscal issues that are the glue binding this Tea
Party together."
They are so right. And it is a point I have been making
for years, often getting laughed at. But here, when things looked
bleakest for conservatives back in December of 2008 and
then-President-elect Obama riding a wave of hope and change, I
wrote at this site that "abundant political history" shows that
"advocacy of limited government is a political winner." I noted
that "moderates" and "independents" -- what some called "the
radical middle" -- actually are driven by fiscal issues more than
just about anything else. It amazed me then that people forgot the
lesson from Ross Perot's huge popularity (until he flaked out) was
that the American public hates out-of-control federal spending and
federal debt. Jesse Ventura, of all unlikely people, rode much the
same message to the governorship of Minnesota.
I then wrote this:
When Republicans act like fiscal conservatives, they have won,
again and again. When they have spent like inebriated mariners,
they have lost -- again and again.
The obvious conclusion, from more than a quarter-century
of modern American history, is that limiting government is either a
strong net plus, politically, or at least not in any way a drag on
electoral fortunes; profligacy, on the contrary, is either a strong
net minus, politically, or at least not in any way an electoral
benefit.
The evidence for the contrary conclusion -- that voters
reward big government -- is utterly, completely
nonexistent.
The week earlier, I had insisted that conservative principles across
the board are winners:
Winning without the principles is an oxymoron. It's like
congratulating an Auburn fan in the name of Bear Bryant. Without
the principles, we haven't won. It's that simple....
All of this supposedly wise tactical advice to the effect
that we should abandon, or significantly play down, any of the main
principles that animate us is neither wise nor tactically clever,
nor even realistic. It assumes that conservatives could be
successful acting as if we're something that we're not. But in the
long run, inauthenticity never works. Integrity is more
powerful.
American Enterprise Institute President Arthur Brooks
agrees. This is a man who insists on data-driven analysis. Here is
what Brooks has to say on the matter: "The data say that when
people sell out their principles, they lose power." And the best
way to win is to "make the moral case for what you
believe."
This is what the Tea Party movement "is all about," as Bob
Dole would say (except that with Dole, "what it's all about" was
just a verbal tic). It is why the movement has been successful. It
is why I and so many others have thrilled to its existence and
celebrated almost all of its victories. (Even if every once in a
while, as in Delaware, wondering if they had chosen the right time,
place and vehicle. And even in Delaware, one can be thrilled at the
demonstration of raw and productive political energy and hope it
bears surprisingly good fruit in the fall.)
This is a lesson Republican politicians need to learn or
re-learn. Of course, not all principles are worthwhile: Communist
principles and Nazi principles, for instance, are anathema in this
country and Americans are too good to adopt them. But conservative
principles are specifically principles rooted in the American
tradition and the American experience, and they stem from the laws
of nature and of nature's God, which means they are right and good
and just.
Principles of limited government by definition support the
principle of individual responsibility. Each person has the
responsibility to take care of themselves and the obligation to
care for their families and communities. When the government takes
from one person and gives to another, it's not charity. When the
individual gives of their own free will (be it money, time, moral
support), it benefits both the recipient and the giver.
Alan Brooks| 9.17.10 @ 11:01PM
It's a non-starter. A conservative wants lower taxes, but he
wants the state to help some in his family-- even if they are very
well off. So you multiply that times millions of conservatives who
want the state to help Grampy and Gran, and you go nowhere with
limited government. In the past such duplicity worked because not
enough proles knew what the game was all about. Plus the population
has aged, meaning more Grampsies and Grannies exist to demand their
cut of the state- funded action, even if they don't need it.
Means testing isn't the 'In' Thing, it isn't sexy.
Means testing isn't where it's at, Baby.
WayneH| 9.18.10 @ 12:33AM
More blather. Now Alan thinks he knows what conservatives want.
In his world, deep down we all want to just keep careening off the
edge of the cliff and then emerge in some great Utopian marxist
nirvana where we will all have our very own teleprompters so we can
chant in sync with the "one".
Alan Brooks| 9.18.10 @ 11:55PM
STILL, your Granny is living high off the hog.
Life begins at 65.
megapotamus| 9.19.10 @ 8:46AM
Hey, the guy is right. Or he was 'til lately. Maybe.... MAYBE
spending cuts were theoretically appealing to the electorate but
when it came time to cut Uncle Jim's corn subsidies or Grannie
Moses' hip replacement unenlightened self-interest ruled the day.
But that is not THIS day. We are so upside-down on entitlements and
all the other malign interventions accumulated over the century
(not least Bush's) that even the semi-informed majority is forced
to see that the status quo can only lead to catastrophic default.
There is no other destination on this track. It is a cul de sac. So
it is not between a tax cut for JP Moneybags and Tiny Tim's
surgery. You can empty the pockets of everyone making the magical
sum of $250,001 and still Tiny Tim dies. Either there will be
radical reformation of these boondoggles, slashing benefits in some
regard or their checks will bounce. The only third alternative is
that thing they call "monetizing the debt". What dat? It is the
modern equivalent of printing greenbacks in whatever quantity is
desired. Surely even the most enthusiastic spender of other
peoples' money cannot be ignorant of the downside to that. So cheer
up. Things are so bad there is no alternative to the discipline we
should have been practising all along and that is real progress,
paradoxically.
WayneH| 9.19.10 @ 11:28AM
STILL, no solutions from you Alan, just blind faith in the
doomed status quo.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 9.17.10 @ 7:13AM
Of course, not all principles are worthwhile: Communist
principles and Nazi principles, for instance, are anathema in this
country and Americans are too good to adopt them.
Why is the above quote in an article about conservatism and the
Tea Party? It should be in any article written about the Democratic
Party or perhaps the Muslim religion but why place it in an article
about the Tea Party and conservatism?
It would be east to grift off an essay about Democrats and
Nazism because the principles of Obama and the principles of Nazism
and Communism go hand in glove with the Obama administration. In
fact, on two separate occasions the Obama administration had to
remove two czars/presidential appointees after their communist
views were revealed.
It's really ironic how many pundits love to tell the Tea Party
not to go too far and this is a common theme you even observe on
Fox News.
What we've had in this country for 50 years are two political
parties whose radical views on spending have taken us to the
precipice of financial disaster. The irony is that the public did
not reject it.
The principles of that spending are supportive of big
government, whose control of the economy has now become the twin
brother of communism.
Is it now too late for the public to reject it? Perhaps not.
But your statement that those principles are rejected by the
public are not true. The reason we have the problems we have now is
because the public accepted those principles.
Now many in the public appear alarmed as the bills come due and
the economy appears to be in a slow motion crash.
The truth is whether you call it Communism or Nazism it was
simply big government where economic decisions and policies were
all the result of central economic planning.
As I write this the ignoble Bob Schieffer is on TV doing a slam
job on Palin, comparing her movement to the failed conservative
efforts of Barry Goldwater.
While the media continues to tell the public that the Tea Party
may have radical elements, the national media failed for the last
50 years to pinpoint corrupt government practices, corrupt
politicians, which has lead to the most radical element of all.
An all encompassing power inside the beltway which has now
seized the power to make life and death decisions over your life,
i.e., Obamacare.
In essence, the public hasn't rejected the concepts behind
Communism and Nazism. In fact, one hand out after another has lead
them like lemmings to find the proverbial bread crumbs, down the
primrose path to disaster.
Kenneth E.MacAlister Jr.| 9.18.10 @ 12:54PM
Who is Bob Schieffer & why does his opinion matter? Just
curious.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 9.19.10 @ 10:55AM
Bob Schieffer is an alleged journalist whose liberalism blinds
him to the real essence of any news article put before him. His
opinion doesn't matter, at least to me. He's just another liberal
gas bag with delusions of grandeur, fueled by his liberal
essence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Schieffer
Appleby| 9.17.10 @ 7:25AM
I propose that we recruit some folks to take copies of the
Declaration of Independence, written out in modern English and not
identified as such, to the streets, and ask the Ignoranti if they
would sign our Petition Against The Government. Odds are excellent
that most of them would not recognize it, and many Hippie Scum
would enthusiastically sign it. You could even leave in King
George, because most of the HS would assume you meant George W.
Bush!
What we need is another American Revolution. Or perhaps we need
the original American Revolution.
CopyKatnj| 9.17.10 @ 7:33AM
Point well made. At a Tea Party rally on July 4, that is exactly
what one speaker did. It was powerful and opened the eyes of many
people.
Ret. Marine| 9.17.10 @ 7:48AM
" Or perhaps we need the original revolution" I believe we are
witnessing the exact point. Even though, we are not firing lead at
each other, but if fact it may come to this, the vitriol is about
as damaging. On one side of the camp we have the enemies of the
Republic, i.e. demonrat party, little tyrant's of the progressive
types, all of those UN backers, the one World Order proponents. On
the other side the free market capitalist, Representative Republic
types and God fearing, gun tooting Bible holders of our Faith. It
would appear to the person paying attention, the battle lines have
been clearly drawn. The remaining question is, do we have the
numbers equivalent for the final match. Be it literal match that
ignites the fire of the original revolution and its cause of the
match to ignite the resurgence of what the founding principles,
undiluted, are understood to mean or the version of what the
unrelenting revisionist have in mind for us all.
Nunya| 9.17.10 @ 2:13PM
Just keep in mind... It's we conservatives that have all of the
guns. :-)
Fredrick Ward| 9.17.10 @ 5:11PM
Don't kid yourself on this one. The other side has plenty of
weapons. Given the right opportunity they will use them to deadly
precision too. Their justifications are simply that anyone against
them are enemies of the State, and pose an eminent threat. That is
line that will be given for their actions, and no one will question
it for too long.
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 1:04AM
Short of using nukes in its own citizens, that's a silly
argument. If the government has difficulty suppressing an
insurgency in a foreign country where the enemy is out manned 6:1,
then you can forget trying to fight an armed citizenry at home
where the government is out manned at 80:1.
Not going to happen, not in this life time, not ever.
Fredrick Ward| 9.20.10 @ 12:05PM
GavinTucson,
I do not doubt that there are enough weapons in the public to
start such a war. The problem lies in the fact that there is no
cohesiveness, and no direction within the population that exists
within the United States military. A force of U.S. Marines, or the
U.S. Army would have a greater chance of survival against the major
populace of this country for that very reason.
How many people would actually pick up arms in this country? I
highly doubt that the majority of this country would do so.
Therefore, the numbers you show are flimsy at best.
Fredrick Ward| 9.20.10 @ 12:12PM
As an addendum to my comment, or rather an addition, I would
point out how long people stood by the war against terrorism. A few
years and most people forgot what it was about, and why it is so
important. A few years after that a great majority wanted our
troops back home without actually finishing the job. Now they have
what they want and guess what? The situation has not been resolved.
In actuality it has gotten worse due to the lack of finality and
the lack of the aim to actually win.
This country's populace is fickle, and care more for their own
personal luxuries than they care for their neighbor. Such a
populace cannot win in a Civil War against it's own massive, well
trained military.
Anna Mossity| 9.21.10 @ 12:53PM
"And now they have what they want?!" What are you TALKING
about?!!! The wars aren't OVER, not by a long shot! Simply SAYING
that combat operations have ceased does NOT make it so, or it'd
have been over that day when Bush made his showy speech under the
"Mission Accomplished!" sign.
Fredrick Ward| 9.24.10 @ 3:19AM
Once again, the mission was not to win, and it still isn't.
Therefore, the war is essentially over, and already lost whether
conflicts continue or not.
TR| 9.18.10 @ 1:46PM
The only "weapon" that leftist commies have is the unwavering
devotion of the left-stream media. They are all scared to death of
guns, and if they were able to figure out how to operate one after
consulting with their focus groups, they would inevitably shoot
themselves instead.
The enemy of the state are the anti-Constitutionalists, which just
so happen to be against the patriots.
Oh - a postscript. I forgot that the leftists are well versed in
how to build and use bombs against citizens of the US as they
displayed so well in the 60s and through their hero the Unibomber.
And before you idiots refer to McVeigh, he was not a patriot, he
was an anti-american satan.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 2:39PM
Hi Ret. Marine.
I enjoy your posts, and this one is, pardon the expression, is dead
on. As you may have read in my previous posts, I have a vested
interest in the survival of our Republic in its Constitutional form
as intended bu our founders. My father is a ret. AF Col, I served
in the AF 6 yrs, both of my brothers served in the Navy, and our
original American ancestor arrived circa 1760 and we have
documented evidence of his service under Gen. Washington during the
Revolution.
I agree that forced conflict with our clear-cut enemy may occur. I
truly hope not, but I am not blind to what is happening. We are at
a crossroads that I have watched unfold over the past 4 decades.
The forces of darkness, the marxist democracts, the one-world-order
religion types, have pushed us to the brink with their perversion
under color of faux law, not Constitutional law.
I do not fear a lack of "numbers" when the crap hits the fan. I
have no doubt, based on posts I have read that were authored by
you, that you have complete knowledge of our history, and there was
never 100% support of the Revolution at that time, many people
wanted just to "get along" with the tyranny. Yet my ancestor,
Gaspar Roether and his fellow patriots got the job done, thank
God.
You, me, and other patriots are well armed and trained. The, excuse
me for being so crude, the pussies we face are a bunch of limp
wristed hand wringing libturds who will scream and wet themselves
as soon as we begin to enforce our Constitution. They are afraid of
guns, they are all talk and no balls. They are good at invictive
asinine illogic, they are good at using the English language to
warp and distort, to convince weak minded people how "caring" they
are while ripping unborn babies out of their mother's wombs, but
under that sick minded facade they are a bunch of pantywaist wimps
and we will take them all out of the picture in short order. And
even if the marxist-in-chief wimp demands an military response
against us, I predict an immediate refusal to take up arms against
a righteous citizenry.
We will win one way or the other against those who are a clear and
present danger to our Republic.
Semper fi.
Nunya| 9.17.10 @ 3:37PM
Very cool family history, you should be very proud.
Like you, I pray that it never has to happen, that somehow We
the People turn things around. Unfortunately I am not confident in
that. So, if the worst has to happen, I will be proud to stand
beside a patriot like yourself.
Semper fi
BackToBasics| 9.17.10 @ 6:19PM
I am not confident either. I've sometimes wondered if we will be
able to carve out a Republic with some good strength from part of
the country, perhaps the Plains, Midwest and a good portion of the
South?
I really see the country fracturing first in a civil war and
then later geographically. What our outside enemies will doing
while this is going on is anybody's guess. It is doubtful that we
will be left alone from them if it comes down to this.
Nancy in NC| 9.17.10 @ 4:30PM
I want you guys on my side...I'm an old woman, but I do have a
nifty 12 gauge and a SW 38 that I can hit something with
occasionally...I don't miss with the 12 gauge though.
I have the occasion to talk to the Marines almost daily, and I
can tell you, most of them with any rank or IQ are pretty fed up.
Just mention the blue hats to them, and their ire goes up. So I
would say your prediction is spot on. Also have talked to local
police, and they're on our side.
Now, if the voters will get their butts to the polls on Nov. 2
we will have a start. I hope and pray that a big victory in Nov.
will not make folks things are under control...that's just the
first battle in a long war.
The progressives have been working on this agenda for about 100
years. They won't go down without a fight, but they are wusses that
would crap themselves if it came down to the wire. I'm not sure if
most of them one know one end of a weapon from the other.
Semper fi, and keep your powder dry.
Ret. Marine| 9.17.10 @ 8:47PM
Thanks Granny, I have a grandmother, currently 99, just as fisty
as you. She tells me not to worry, she'll be there to heal the
wounds if it comes to that, back at yah.
RCV| 9.17.10 @ 5:14PM
Ah, yes. The believers in a democratic Republic. They lose one
election at the ballot box, and they are so convinced (as I am)
that they could never persuade the American people to vote their
candidates in, they're already plotting their little armed
rebellions. Your fantasies are never going to happen. You try and
take over this country militarily and you will see the resolve of
the American people in all its fury. And, if you think you have all
the guns, you've forgotten about the military arsenal your federal
government has built up, and the soldiers -- now drawn in so small
part from the ranks of our African American and Latino populations
now that we have a volunteer army -- who are ready to fulfill their
oaths. When the federal government ordered school integration, even
though the majority of those in the state national guard in the
south opposed the orders given, they remained true to our nation,
and when federalized, moved against the little Jeff Davises in the
statehouses in the South. The next challenge will be no different.
We didn't watch our ancestors die and be maimed in the Civil War to
preserve the Union to let you little Timmie McVeighs take one inch
of our country away. Semper Fi is right.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 6:52PM
This is not a democratic Republic, it is a representative
Republic.
Our founders warned against a democracy, for obvious historic
reasons. So keep your democratic crap.
As to my statement: I know and communicat e with people in the
military and the law enforcement, and they agree with the danger
from the marxists in charge. They do not respect out glorious dear
"leader", and are ready if patriots begin. This situation bears no
resemblance to what happened in the 50s with state refusal to
fulfill correct and righteous policy. We are opposed to the federal
takeover of private institutions and businesses, to the complete
deafness of the will of the People. The majority called loudly to
drop the govt. takeover of the medical field, but they rammed it
through (it will be overturned by the SCOTUS as an illegal power
grab).
If you mean losing one election, we do not see an election where
ACORN, the Black Panthers and other criminal groups stacked and
stuffed the ballot boxes with dead people votes, with multiple
votes, with voter intimidation(and every instance of these actions
was filmed for all to see) and the refusal of the Justice Dept. to
follow law, the favoring of law application based on race, the
murder of babies, the absolute soulless corruption and marxist
actions by this administration, by the disdain to the Constitution
and the verbal and written comments from the president in the years
leading up to his 15 minute career in the senate where he proclaims
that the Constitution, in essense, matters not when you have bigger
objectives, we will take action. We listened to the crap coming
from the marxists for 8 years of GW Bush, the death threats on
their radio AirAmerica, the constant protests. Now, we are playing
from your playbook and you protest "give him a chance!" Bullshit.
He is a dyed in the wool anti business anti freedom anti american,
and we see it. And if you think that the real patriots will turn on
us, you are the one that is sadly mistaken.
As far as your typical red-herring Timothy McVeigh comment, KMA.
That devil was not a God fearing Constitution loving American, He
was just what he was, a devil.
And as far as taking back one inch of your country, it has been
usurped and stolen by the left through lies, theft, and the bully
pulpit of the left-stream press. Those days are over, and we will
win if it comes to it.
I took an oath and never un-took it. I will defend my Constitution
and nation even if it means I pay the ultimate price, just like the
patriots of 1776. They were told the same thing you spew and knew
that they has the righteous cause. It was difficult, but we know
who won.
I do agree that it will probably be a civil war however, not a
revolution. I'd be happy to settle for the real America and let the
vermin leftists keep the coasts. They have pretty much destroyed
them with their policies anyway.
I don;t want it, I am just prepared to act the moment it starts. I
will not start the fire, but I will add my gasoline with full and
devoted force.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 7:07PM
sorry for the multiple typos in that post. I forgot to proofread
before hitting send.
RCV| 9.17.10 @ 7:46PM
You're not taking one inch of this country anywhere. You add
your gasoline all you want, and you will be dealt with by our
dedicated law enforcement officers. If the Supreme Court finds the
Health Care Bill unconstitutional, then so be it. We will respect
that ruling. If they find it constitutional, that's your obligation
as well. You don't get to pick and choose which elections of the
people you will respect. We elected Barack Obama President in 2008,
after 8 years of Republican misrule. If you can convince the
American people to elect your candidates, you'll then have your
choice. But if that doesn't happen TR, that's life.
No sweat on the typos - I'm famous for them.
Ret. Marine| 9.17.10 @ 8:55PM
Hang in there TR, this little louis farrakon thinks he's all
that and a bag of crack added to it. He more than likely doesn't
even realize TMcV was a terrorist, there was plenty of documented
evidence covered up at his trial, i.e. not knowing how to make a
Ammonia Nitrate bomb before meeting up with the little Yousef in
the Phillipines, and suddenly knowing after returning, etc... yeah
and that little line....democratic republic, that was a knee
slapper. Notice though how it failed to respond to his
marxistness.
RCV| 9.17.10 @ 11:25PM
What do these incoherent ramblings even mean?
SeattleBruce| 9.18.10 @ 9:03AM
What does your ad hominem attack mean? Ah, methinks it means
you're not secure enough in your own arguments to let them stand on
their own - would that be correct?
Tim*| 9.17.10 @ 7:02PM
"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to
study mathematics and philosophy."
John Adams
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 1:29AM
Your ignorance of the military and its understanding of the
Constitution is so blinding that I had to laugh out loud at your
post, RCV.
But, that's okay. You just keep telling yourself happy, happy
thoughts of total government control of the populace at your little
liberal circle-jerk at Starbucks.
RCV| 9.18.10 @ 12:41PM
You guys are so laughable in your disconnect with reality! You
live in the freest, most prosperous society in history, with the
ability to transmit your distorted views to millions around the
globe in an instant, to elect your governmental representatives, to
stockpile your little toy firearms that make you feel like a big
guy, and you sit around and whine about "total government
control.". You're pathetic.
Tim*| 9.18.10 @ 1:51PM
Uh oh !
The King' s Tory attempts The Talk Down To The Great Unwashed
Gambit .
That's Pathetic with Fries.
GavInTucson| 10.18.10 @ 3:06AM
When it's all said and done, you'll be serving me my fries. You
don't have a choice. You're already being counted on "the other
side."
GavInTucson| 10.18.10 @ 3:04AM
Disconnected with reality??? Freest society in history??? Okay,
RCV, keep living in your bubble.
Are you really stupid enough to believe that the ability to post
something on the Internet makes you free??? You, me, and everyone,
are being watched, you fool.
One day you might actually wake up to the fact that you no
longer "decide" the elections in this country. They're bought and
paid for by the true masters of this country. A master that been
trying to gain control of this country since it's inception, and
has been nearly working since 1913.
Fredrick Ward| 9.17.10 @ 5:40PM
"You, me, and other patriots are well armed and trained."
Folks, while I do advocate standing up for what is right, and I
have stated in the past that this issue may come to blows, I do not
desire this. Mainly because anyone who has been witness to war
knows that it is never anything so pretty and clean as it is on
TV.
I'm going to get right to it. If this comes to a physical
confrontation then this will be anything but easy. Those in power
will use whatever weapons are at their disposal to put down the
insurrection, as they would see it. That also means that our own
military forces, police, national guard, CIA, etc would be against
us. Do not think that all the forces will back down from a fight
against it's own citizens. That kind of thinking is failure before
it begins, and will lead to a quick finish to any uprising. This
age is completely different from the time of the first Revolution.
The technology and systems in place now make such a conflict much
worse, and head on assault incredibly insane. This would need to be
a fight of clandestine strategic strikes. That is the only way to
fight and have a possibility of winning.
In such a fight some of your neighbors, friends, and family
would even call you traitor, and turn on you. They will side with
the powers that be, and you will be forced to give up, run from, or
fight the very people you wish to protect. The government would put
into effect marshal law. Check points would be everywhere, and even
the 'innocent', or 'uninvolved' would be persecuted by the
fanatical systems set in place to deter the militants' actions.
Most of you cannot know what you are even contemplating when it
comes to such a horror as this scenario. If the real fighting ever
does begin most people in this country will take the chains that
the government offers instead of fighting for the freedoms they
will lose. They will see living out their lives with their loved
ones under the tyranny a better option than possibly losing their
loved ones in an assault.
Pray that this current situation does not come to such.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 6:59PM
All of my friends and nieghbors have all spoken out loudly that
they will join also. This is not the sheeple nation that ObaMao and
the other marxists think it is. The peole are fed up and armed and
ready.
Was is ugly, war is hell, and war is not desirable. But a coward
dies a thousand deaths, a hero but once.
Tyranny is not acceptable and will not be allowed to progress.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 7:10PM
again sorry for the typos. I must proofread better.
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 7:58PM
You guys lost an election because the republicans bungled
running the country for 8 years. Suck it up and stop whining.
Nobody is coming to steal your guns, or your freedoms. You're
probably about to retake at least the house, if not all of
Congress. Christ, you're a bunch of babies. Do you not understand
how this country works? If this is how you react when a moderate
liberal is elected, I shudder to think would happen if this country
ever elected an actual leftist.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 8:13PM
MODERATE LIBERAL?????????
Marxism is not moderate. And this man is a marxist.
Shudder away.
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 8:30PM
Right, a marxist who bails out investment banks. Grow up.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 8:48PM
Just one part of his muti-pronged plan to implode the economy to
enact his full marxist agenda. All well documented by people who
actually understand what he is doing along with his cloward-piven
strategy. I am grown up, you need to wise up. Fool.
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 9:01PM
Sorry, I read your paranoid fantasies about killing people who
disagree with you politically and figured you weren't an adult.
Tell me about the rest of Obama's multi-pronged plan to implode the
economy? It's odd-after the bailout, the economy (while far from
doing well) stopped imploding. Instead of such an elaborate scheme,
why didn't he just sit back and do nothing?
Do you even know a single 'leftist'? Maybe you should take some
time to get to know your fellow
Americans instead of dreaming of the revolution.
SeattleBruce| 9.18.10 @ 9:15AM
"the economy (while far from doing well) stopped imploding."
This is not an economic strategy. The problem is that liberals
think that government can innovate and create jobs - when we all
know it can do neither. Here's the Econ 101 difference for you DRed
- Take $100,000 and create on gubmint job, or take that same
$100,000 and invest it in a viable small business and create say 3
jobs, and then with growth another 5 or 10 - and so forth. Meantime
that other gubmint $100,000 is being sucked down the drain and for
what - some reporting or clerical or paper pusher job?
Like I said, innovation and job creation - government can do
neither. Your problem is that you BELIEVE in governement. I
don't.
Government has a limited role - for the reasons outlined.
You and BHO are failing because of this.
It's time to MOVE ON!!
DRed| 9.18.10 @ 1:11PM
Again, you're completely missing my point. I'm not trying to
convince you to become a liberal. What I'm arguing is that Obama
isn't the radical, anti-American marxist that the right wing noise
machine keeps claiming he is.
Simon Templar| 9.18.10 @ 10:07PM
I was once a liberal..more like a radical and read all the same
books your so-called moderate liberal did that sits in the white
house. He is an anti-american, anti-west, liberation theology
marxist. Try reading his book, Dreams from My Father, you might
actually learn something about your dear leader. Once again facts
and reality escape you. This is a typical liberal ploy...make the
conservative out to be paranoid, extreme, exaggerating fool. You
are losing. Each day more and more people are waking up. No one on
this site is exaggerating or using political hyperbole to make a
political point. They see clearly what is going on and what your
dear leader and his progressive cadre are up to..the gigs up...
Petronius| 9.18.10 @ 10:01AM
In order to carry out his agenda of Marxist redistribution,
There must be a store of other people's wealth to confiscate. Ask
Castro and Chavez, they'll tell you.
Patriot| 9.17.10 @ 8:58PM
moderate liberal, no not by a long shot, he's a little moa in
the making...and many of us have the solution for what ailes
him.....
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 9:07PM
Yes, he's a moderate liberal. To pick a few issues: A more
liberal president would have put gays in the military, tried hard
to legalize gay marriage, not bailed out wall street fat cats,
instituted a single payer national healthcare system, not appointed
an elitist moderate like Kagan to the supreme court, stopped
insisting he has the right to extralegally assassinate American
citizens, emptied guantanamo . . . I could go on, but I get the
sense most of you aren't open to argument.
UpChuck.Liberals| 9.17.10 @ 11:52PM
If our Dear Leader is a Moderate anything then I'm a full
fledged, card carrying member of the Communist Party. You sir are a
fool. I'm also willing to bet you think that Islam is the Religion
of Peace. BTW, yes the Repubics had the White House for 8 years but
the Dems and their RINO Repubics had the Congress since Jan 5,
2007. Bush was a idiot for signing the stuff that they put out but
your Socialist buddies and the idiot RINOs were the ones that wrote
the stuff that is causing the problems today. Your Dear Leader is a
lazy idiot bought and paid for by Soros and the other left wing
Socialist loons.
Yes, if it does come to it there will be a fight and the guys
with the guns will be on our side, they are predominately
Conservative. You liberals don't have the guts to stand up and
fight for something you really don't believe in.
DRed| 9.18.10 @ 12:26AM
Well, comrade, I suggest you pack your bags for Cuba. First, I
don't even like Obama that much, so you can stop with the dear
leader nonsense. I listed a bunch of things that I think a strongly
liberal president would have tried to do. Which ones do you
disagree with? Obama gave us a wishy-washy stimulus, a wishy-washy
healthcare plan-what's so radical about him?
If Bush and his Rino buddies were so bad, where were when they
were running this country into the ground? Oh, that's right-voting
for them. Man up and accept some responsibility. What are you, a
liberal?
SeattleBruce| 9.18.10 @ 9:19AM
"instituted a single payer national healthcare system"
Great Britain is looking at moving back toward private medicine
- Europe is reeling from their socialism - yet you and Barack Obama
want to move us toward socialism.
It's not that we're not 'open to arugment' - au contraire -
we're just not open to socialism.
Sorry.
DRed| 9.18.10 @ 11:33AM
No, you missed my point. Single payer national healthcare is
what a non-moderate liberal would have pushed for. But that's not
what Obama did. Am I wrong?
SeattleBruce| 9.18.10 @ 9:09AM
Moderate liberal baloney! Fact- BHO was the MOST liberal Senator
period.
TR| 9.18.10 @ 11:21AM
You are correct Bruce. I forgot in his extremely brief senate
career he was awarded the most liberal award. Pretty amazing
considering his puppet string pullers had him start running for
president about a week after being sworn in.
RCV| 9.18.10 @ 12:44PM
Well said. It reminds me of when the John Birch Society used to
claim that Eisenhower was a communist. The disconnect with reality
is mind boggling.
RCV| 9.18.10 @ 12:45PM
The well said was to DRed.
megapotamus| 9.19.10 @ 8:59AM
There isn't going to be any new American revolution or civil war
for the simple reason that there is no one militarily on the other
side. This is why Obama's Freedom Corpse or whatever in hell it was
called was so problematic but like so much else it proved to be
naught but vaporware. That being the case, just who are the
militias and minutemen going to fight? Not the US military, do you
think our guys are going to, say, herd us into camps for
re-Ned-ucation? Will the cops do that? The state Guards? Happily,
there is no military presence worthy of your powder and shot. It
wouldn't be surprising to see the Leftoids of the Ayers stripe
doing some Symbionese Liberation Army claptrap but that will not
avail them. If there were bombings here on the scale and frequency
of Iraq it would not recruit young men of vigor and honor or even
basic physical fitness to their cause. Nope, no Red Dawn here. We
are stuck with jaw-jaw rather than war-war and that suits me. Those
who want to participate in this particular American Revolution,
which is of course a Counter-Revolution, had best keep the Mountain
Dew off your keyboards. These are our arms and armor. Our love and
respect for our nation and fellow citizens are necessary and
sufficient to our purposes. Good thing, too. The prospect of a
Parisien style bloodletting, remote as it is, should be addressed
only with the greatest seriousness and reticence. I'm no pacifist,
believe me you, but relish for war, especially against our own, is
frankly disgraceful and I'm sure it was a slip of the brain for the
fine people commenting here.
Nunya| 9.20.10 @ 11:52AM
Mega, just to sum this up... NOBODY wants it to come to a
confrontation. NOBODY. Especially me.
Unfortunately, we have a Congress that is out of control,
followed by a megalomaniac as a President, and they're passing
legislation over the cries of the MAJORITY of folks out here in
"flyover country" (and everywhere else). Our "representative
republic" is not representative of what the people want. If we
can't regain control of the idiots in Washington with our votes, we
have little choice but to follow Thomas Jefferson's
advice--otherwise, we are going to be slaves to the puppet masters
in DC.
K. Orengali| 9.21.10 @ 3:46AM
Calm, please. Well armed- yes. Well trained- absolutely. A not
so open albeit running dialogue is "what would it take for you to
take up arms against your countrymen?" We all have varying degrees
of tyranny to light the match (using the Marine's metaphor).
However, I have seen three years of combat now and counting. We
fight relentlessly abroad so that those at home can exist in bliss
and enjoy the latte along with the head nodding to the NYT. Combat
is horrible. Combat among ourselves at home would be furious and
exponentially more horrible than what occured between 1861 and
1865. The military and the vast majority of armed government agents
(I am both) are on the "right" side of this issue. Ruby Ridge and
Waco are oft examined and scrutinized among ourselves. Be
yourselves always ready, but please- let's for now be the master of
the social commentary, a la RCV et al.
scotchieguy| 9.17.10 @ 1:18PM
Speaking of George, by George, a few years back a film about
King George III came out. It was supposed to be called "King George
III," but the studio declined, thinking it would confuse the masses
into thinking it was the third in a sequel (like the Godfather part
3). This must have been 15-20 years ago, but it was then that I
realized our days are truly numbered.
NVA Patriot| 9.17.10 @ 7:44AM
Quinn - your essay would be more powerful had you not backed
Castle in DE. That's action that determines if you get the point.
Unprincipled pregressivism embodied in Castle is NEVER
acceptable.
Quin| 9.17.10 @ 10:39AM
As a correction, for the record, I made clear again and again
that I did NOT back Castle in Delaware, but that I thought it was a
fight that non-Delaware conservatives should stay out of -- for all
the reasons I gave. I clearly was not enamored of Ms. O'Donnell,
especially because she filed a ridiculous lawsuit against one of
the great and true conservative organizations in this country, ISI.
But I also specifically and repeatedly said I was not urging
support for Castle. I DID, however, note, and I insist, that a 55%
friend is better than a 5% friend. That's not an abandonment of
principle; it's a practical step to support principle. If Castle
had won the nomination, I would have fervently hoped that he wins
the general election. I now hope that O'Donnell wins; conservatives
may need her vote.
Siegfried X| 9.17.10 @ 11:26AM
"I thought it was a fight that non-Delaware conservatives should
stay out of ..."
Would it be fair for out of state conservatives to stay out of
it when Castle got 3/4 of his money from non-resident liberal
Republicans, including money from the NRSC?
What you are advocating seems to be the same old political
pacifism and unilateral disarment which has allowed the RINO
leadership to control the party against the will of the majority
for so long. Non-Delaware establishment money and support is OK,
but conservative money isn't.
R Martin| 9.17.10 @ 3:54PM
One problem with that 55%/5% argument is that history does not
always support it. Remember the 2004 Pennsylvania Republican Senate
Primary when Pat Toomey opposed Arlen Specter? President Bush and
Rick Santorum backed Specter, because they thought Specter was a
better bet to retain control of the Senate. Specter did win, but
the senate was lost in 2006, and then Specter showed his
appreciation for Republican support by switching to the Democrats
last year. If the Bush/Santorum strategy was successful, it was
only in the short run. Republicans would have been wiser to go with
Toomey in '04. That lesson has not been lost on Delaware
Conservatives.
NVA Patriot| 9.17.10 @ 3:55PM
Peace on the record, but as a point of order, we outside the
beltway are done with process that means conservatives lose. We
expect and are demanding results. It is the way our world works in
Capitalism when the gov stays out of it.
Your position, which is fine - makes the RESULT THE SAME - more
progressiveism COUPLED with tarnishing the Conservative Republican
Brand. We're done with that.
We believe that the contests should be straight up - consevatism
vs. socialism. Thanks to Coons being a closet, self proclaimed
Marxist we will now have a straight up decision from our fellow
citizens in DE. I expect that they will choose the conservative NOW
THAT THERE is a clear, bold, brightly colored difference.
And...if you see anyone from the Weekly standard or NRO let them
know that if they spent as much time looking into Coons as they did
ODonnell, Odonnnell would be even or ahead in the polls.
We're done with discussions of process that are stacked against
conservatives such that liberalism always wins. NOT. AGAIN.
EVER.
albert constantine jr.| 9.17.10 @ 8:13AM
Having observed Castle's record up close in Delaware, I'm not
sure he is best described as an unprincipled progressive. I think
he pandered to the left and "middle" regularly to pad his margins
of victory, thinking that the right had no other place to go. While
this may be well described as unprincipled, opportunist may be more
accurate than progressive.
R Martin| 9.17.10 @ 2:07PM
Unprincipled opportunist may be accurate, but it is vague.
Here's what Castle did: he sold-out unreservedly to special
interests with his support for the Democrats' Cap and Trade bill.
Delaware generates 65% of its electricity from coal. Therefore any
carbon tax is going to hit consumers hard. Delaware is also home to
a number of major corporations who are not carbon emitters and who
would be able to sell their valuable carbon credits under the
proposed law. And, of course, there are many large banks
headquartered here who will do the trade part of Cap and Trade and
benefit accordingly. Those banks and the corporations were big
contributors to Castle. He chose their support rather than look out
for the interests of his other constitutents. He lost my vote on
that issue alone.
logmank| 9.17.10 @ 8:25AM
NVA - Exactly so. Quin Hilyer backs Castle, then uses the
victory of O'Donnell to bolster his thesis on the power of the
conservative message. What's wrong with that picture?
I don't appreciate someone supporting a Republican progressive, in
violation of the very conservative principles he purports to
champion, then patting himself on the back for his consistency.
Quin| 9.17.10 @ 10:40AM
Please see my note above. I did NOT "back" Castle. And I defy
ANYBODY to show me any statement in the record that shows I did.
And no -- not some extrapolation from some sentences of mine taken
out of context, but an actual statement, in context. I never did
so.
Mel Torme| 9.17.10 @ 11:10AM
Well, Quin, it depends on what context the statement below
(taken from your reply above) was in. I admit, I may have missed
your previous writing about the Deleware R-primary.
"I DID, however, note, and I insist, that a 55% friend is better
than a 5% friend."
That's all fine, if it so happened that Castle won that primary.
It is very reasonable, given that voting for the libertarian or
constitution party guy (which I STILL would) is such a long
shot.
If you said the above statement (or thereabouts) to explain why
you would vote for Castle in the PRIMARY, then you are now in a
contradiction (this article today). What I mean is, many people did
insist that we should support the 55% guy in the primary, as then
the chance of winning of the D would be higher. That is something I
would argue strongly about, and your article today would back me
up. Vote for your principles, and don't waver, as most of the
(real) Americans believe in these same principles and will vote
that way in the general election.
So, you should clarify to some of these posters who say you are
contradicting your previous views - were you saying that people
should have voted for Castle in the primary, or just saying that
conservatives should back the winner of this primary in the general
election? (I don't agree even with the 2nd, but that has been
debated by American Spectator commenters earlier this week(?) with
some really great points, especially re my view ;-)
Quin| 9.17.10 @ 1:34PM
Why is this do difficult to understand? I did not recommend that
anybody vote in ANY particular way; I recommended that outside
conservatives not make this battle a cause celebre, while
specifically wrote that "I have no brief for Mike Castle."
Anthony| 9.17.10 @ 3:23PM
Wow Quin, It appears you are doing some mighty fast and fancy
disembling here.
" I have no brief for Mike Castle"
vs.
"A 55% friend is better than a 5% friend"
" I thought it was a fight non Deleware conservatives should
stay out of"'
vs.
" I was not enamoured with O'Donnell because she filed a law suit
against a great and true conservative organization".
I think Mel Torme has deconstructed your nuianced denials and has
found them wanting, as did I.
Mel Torme| 9.17.10 @ 9:57PM
Nuance is in this year, and so are denials. Next year, it's
gonna be gold, guns, and Revelations.
RCV| 9.17.10 @ 11:32PM
Quin - don't waste your time trying to explain yourself to the
conspiracy fantasists attacking you. They are exactly like the
French revolutionaries and will continue to turn on each other for
lack of "purity" until there's no one left.
Tim*| 9.18.10 @ 2:00PM
The King's Fop consults Quin.
Curly Smith| 9.17.10 @ 8:27AM
If "Conservative Principles Win" then shouldn't we conclude from
"Compassionate Conservatism" and "Big Tentism" that either the GOP
doesn't want to win or that it doesn't want to advance Conservative
Principles?
We can, and should, blame Karl Rove for a lot of the Bush
failures but Rove wasn't doing anything that the leadership of the
GOP didn't want to have happen. They're the ones who loudly
proclaimed in 2008 that "the era of Reagan is over". It's over
because they killed it.
The blueprint for winning elections and holding majorities until
the end of time is clear... and it's hermetically sealed in a
lead-line vault guarded 24/7 by pork-addicted GOP operatives. The
blueprint is a stake in the heart of the freedom-sucking State.
Siegfried X| 9.17.10 @ 9:31AM
Exactly. The message comes through, loud and clear, that the
Republican leadership thinks conservatism is a loser in most of the
country. They think conservatism is dying, and the sooner we move
away from it the better off we are. (Which is what conservative
countries are doing in Europe -- making themselves "left-wing
light" parties).
It is obvious that they don't want conservative victories on the
issues, because by selecting and supporting RINO candidates they
are GUARANTEEING that eventually the left will win. It's like the
votes on homosexual rights and immigrant amnesty next week -- if
enough RINOs combine with the Democrats to give 60 senate votes,
then the Democrats will have won. They will have passed their laws.
The fact that Snowe, Collins, etc. have (R) after their names won't
stop them from voting for amnesty.
Ned the Red| 9.17.10 @ 10:10AM
"The data say that when people sell out their principles, they
lose power."
The Democrats got their power back in 2006 because they followed
their principles and went left. I remember a “National Review”
cover showing the Democrat Party, represented by a car, driving on
a road with steep cliffs to the left. The car was heading left
indicating a wreck.
Well they didn't wreck. Their drift left motivated their base,
which took advantage of several Republican gifts, McCain, scandals,
and of course the ever present Republican fear of the Media, and
won big time in 2006 and 08.
Now the Republican Party is turning right. Sure it is requiring a
little help in the form of having tea dumped down the leadership’s
nostrils while they are strapped to a board, but they are going
right.
Now everyone believes (with the possible exception of President
Clinton) the Democrats governing far to the left is the cause of
their probable demise. Going left got them elected, but governing
left is getting them booted, as it did in 1994.
The question I ask, if going right gets the Republicans elected
will governing right get them booted? Will they try to move to the
center once in office? You know the old reach across the aisle
bit.
The difference is most of the country is conservative and not
liberal. So rather than suffering the Democrats fate, the
Republicans will succeed if they stick to their principles and
govern as such. They will fail if they pull the same old crap and
go to the center. Hopefully their newly acquired fear of being
“T-boarded” will be stronger than their fear of the Media.
scotchieguy| 9.17.10 @ 1:31PM
Excellent post. "The difference is most of the country is
conservative not liberal." True, but the MSM will more than counter
that advantage. That is the real problem. I see them governing in
the middle, and having the dems regroup and back in power in no
time. A vicious cycle.
Ned the Red| 9.18.10 @ 7:15AM
"True, but the MSM will more than counter that advantage."
I remember the 80's and all the sitcoms trashing Republicans
(aimed at Reagan). Remember all the specials on HBO to help the
homeless (I doubt Billy and Whoopi are gearing up for new ones
now). In 94 I don't think Bill Moyers could have sounded more
forlorn if we had been hit with a nuclear strike when lamenting the
Republican takeover of the House.
I am hoping with talk radio, the internet, Fox News, and the Tea
Party showing the ability to put RINO’s out of a job will help this
time around.
megapotamus| 9.19.10 @ 9:09AM
The real difference is that what we know today as "Conservatism"
is only good sense, at least fiscally while "Liberalism" is fantasy
unconcerned with history, economics, decency or current
performance. The transient popularity of this or that does not
alter that. Understanding this to be the case, having those musty
old "convictions" is really the secret to enduring the current
foolishness with good nature. Look at it this way, if you see your
kids out in the back yard making a cruiseliner out of pop bottles
and duct tape, you may have several rational concerns. That you
will be telephoned to come pick them up in Portugal is not one of
them.
Oldefarte| 9.17.10 @ 11:19AM
I can't remember the exact words, but as the old saying goes, IT
IS BETTER TO HAVE TRIED AND LOST, THAN NEVER TO HAVE TRIED AT ALL!
Or if you prefer, IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED, THEN TRY, TRY
AGAIN! Or finally, as Barry Goldwater Sr so correctly stated,
EXTREMISM IN THE DEFENSE OF LIBERTY IS NO VICE! I'm elated and so
encouraged by Rush Limbaugh's radio requests of his listeners to
contribute to the political campaign of Christine O'Donnell against
Coons; of Mitt Romney's big time endorsement of her candidacy; and
of the brave, courageous tea partiers expending of their time/money
to rally in opposition to this dictatorial expansion of government.
It/they are a beautiful thing, and.........THE TIMES THEY BE A
CHANGIN'!!!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 9.17.10 @ 11:21AM
PS, no doubt due to Limbaugh and Romney, it's now being reported
that O'Donnell's campaign has recieved nearly $1 million in
donations, so she can now afford to take the the fight to Coons in
Delaware!!!!
TR| 9.17.10 @ 2:43PM
Amen, oldefarte.
Are you my dad? I have heard him say almost the same things since I
was a youngfart.
RacerJim| 9.18.10 @ 10:13AM
Here's another oldfart saying for youngfarts to heed..."BETTER
DEAD THAN RED!"
Oldefarte| 9.18.10 @ 10:46AM
TR, No doubt your father and I grew up with similar
life/political experiences of the Kennedys, Huntley & Brinkley,
Cronkite, Camelot, Johnson, the Vietnam War, race riots, the Great
Society, the hippie culture/EASY RIDER culture; and had to
reguritate all of the above in order to survive. The current
liberal/Harvard, radical-extremist movement is a REGURITATION [so
to speak] of that era, but IMO, their very last shot at relevance
[since I believe this current tea party/conservative rebellion will
once and for all put an end to it [or I truly hope
so]!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TR| 9.18.10 @ 11:38AM
Yes, oldefarte, my dad was born in th early stages of the 1st
Great Depression, and my formative years in the 60s were spent
watching Huntley Brinkley, Cronkite. We lived in the San Fernando
Valley in So Cal when the Watts riots occurred (he bought his first
handgun then).
I pray that this vomit that is our president will serve as an
example to cause the complete rejection of all of the dangerous and
foolish radicals of that era. This marxist president's protest that
he was only a child when his mentor Ayers was terrorizing America
doesn't wash with me, he follows their radical agenda today.
I attended the tea party in Pinky Reid's hometown earlier this
year, and the true passion displayed to save our Republic gives me
hope. And BTW, the only violence I saw was the counter protesters
(all 10 of them) in Searchlight that threw eggs at the Tea Party
Express motorcoach that Sarah Palin was riding in as it passed
through the town. It was ignored by the so-called MSM, but I
witnessed it. We must motivate those who, like us, are the true
Constitutional patriots, to GET OUT THE VOTE and send these morons
scurrying. They are cockroaches , and all it takes is light to send
them running.
Oldefarte| 9.17.10 @ 11:26AM
PSII: I failed to note that every blogger/reader here needs to
realize the extreme GUTS/COURAGE exhibited by Quin Hillyer and the
staff at TAS [and other publications] to go out on the literary
limb to expose the political truth, and they all should be
commended and thanked for same [if you doubt/question this, then
you should read BIAS by Bernard Goldberg as proof]!!!!
Siegfried X| 9.17.10 @ 11:50AM
I agree with you. The conservative media is finally opening up,
compared to the tight censorship when McCain was running for the
nomination.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 2:46PM
Yes. Thank you, Quin for your willingness to bravely state what
needs to be said.
I have read Bias by Mr. Goldberg. Another brave man who put his
future in his field on the line for speaking the truth.
Both of them and many other in this vein are true patriots.
JFC | 9.17.10 @ 11:49AM
The OBAMA Crisis is a Terrible Thing to Waste
“A crisis is a terrible thing to waste”.
It seems to me that the insurgent leaders of the Republicans,
from extant top dogs like McConnell and Boehner, down to and most
vitally including, emerging superstars like Rubio, should make the
following perfect proof argument a key part of their red meat
talking points---say:
“I agree that a crisis is a terrible thing to waste, as the
Obama administration told us all, before going on to do so many
horrible things. Indeed, the absolute truth is that the very Obama
administration, and its partners in crisis crime, ARE the
crisis!
And, we should not waste this once in a generation chance!
So, in November we must exploit the hell out of it, and blast
away the people who are causing America to commit economic and
political suicide.
Out, with their damned "SPOT!”
Another takeoff from this
sure-to-be-included-in-the-book-of-famous-quotes gift from Rahm
Emanuel is--- “Let’s get wasted.”
You see, the Obama plus cohort can be characterized many ways,
but at their core they are unrepentant hippies, defined by taking
mind-altering drugs. And, the first choice of such people is
marijuana, the consumption of which is purposed by the desire to
“get wasted”.
Yes, think of Obama, and now his unhappy wife, also, as people
who are suffering from the crisis THEY have unconsciously created,
and in so much psychological pain that getting loaded seems to be
the only way to get Absolute relief.
I speak from unfortunate experience!
Entropy is always beaconing, while we humans are busy creating
and maintaining as much order as we can tolerate, so getting wasted
is just one of the ways to dip into that seemingly ecstatic
experience of nothingness. Oh, the pressure is just too great!
Also, “Crisis = opportunity.”
It is unnecessary to say more, right? Remember, there are around
300,000,000 humans in still-free America, so the few hundred of us
who are willing to get into the ring of political fire and exploit
the Obama crisis represent many millions of others who could do
so.
Finally, picture that old ad, “A mind is a terrible thing to
waste.”, which, if I recall correctly, was aimed at black
Americans, who were failing to apply themselves to “book learning”,
and thus wasting their “minds”. Of course, this problem persists,
and I think is even worse.
So, “Mind” up, cowboys!
Surprise, surprise!
Another way that hubris seems to be blowing in the wind, a la
Bob Dylan---and Peter, Paul and Mary!---is also thanks to the
unwitting Marxist fool, Obama and his minions.
I’ll betcha the phrase, “It’s a teachable moment” has just begun
its run as a used label to apply to---most anything. So, just as
wasting the crisis that is Obama is a terrible thing, so is it
stupid to ignore the teaching moment that he and his far left
idiots ARE.
NOW—Karl Rove, and even Mark Levin, are exhibiting all-too-human
behavior, and they need to wake up. As we taught students about to
take the SAT’s, when facing multiple possible answers to a
question, be very wary of those that use the words “always” and
“never”.
So, when Rove said O’Donnell could NEVER win in Delaware, oops!
Of course, there is ALWAYS the constant true ongoing opportunity =
crisis of the NOW point of space-time, at which to use NEVER:
You are NEVER in danger of knowing a single thing!
A being, from the human on down to the amoeba, and even if a
quark can be considered “a” being, NEVER knows the future!
And, that’s the truth—blech!!!
Anthony| 9.17.10 @ 3:40PM
JFC, Just a small point here, but what have I missed with Mark
Levin? He has been a staunch supporter of O'Donnell, he came out
early and put it all on the line.
Frankly, I was somewhat sickened when Limbaugh, on the following
day, appeared to take full credit for O'Donnell, when he stood
quietly on the sidelines.
Peter McGrath - Specifics?| 9.17.10 @ 12:04PM
Mr Lord's generalities are well taken but oft-repeated, and
preached to the choir, here.
For 8 years, the prior Republican president mouthed the same
platitudes while a Republican-dominated legislature dramatically
expanded entitlements, from prescription drugs to "No Child (ahem)
Left Behind" - not to mention corrupt deals involving farm-state
ethanol, "Big Sugar", and earmarks.
The voting public, I'm sure, would appreciate some specifics as
to how platitudes like "smaller governmennt" and "lower taxes"
would actually be implemented as national policy.
Conservatives, even Tea Party conservatives, in order to obtain
a mandate, MUST enunciate specific policy prescriptions to advance
the cause of a smaller, less intrusive Federal government. How is
the size of government to be reduced? In what ways will its
tentacles be severed?
I'm all ears. I want to know what a Republican-majority in the
House intends to do, and not do. Simple opposition to the
Imbecile-in-Chief is a good start, but will not suffice for
purposes of establishing a mandate. Even with a veto-threat
hovering, Republicans must develop - and quick - a platform of
goals to pitch to the fence-sitters.
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 3:59PM
Good luck with that. Hope you have a comfortable place to
wait.
Giovanelo| 9.17.10 @ 1:48PM
Quin is trying to ignore the obvious:
"Would it be fair for out of state conservatives to stay out of
it when Castle got 3/4 of his money from non-resident liberal
Republicans, including money from the NRSC?
What you are advocating seems to be the same old political
pacifism and unilateral disarment which has allowed the RINO
leadership to control the party against the will of the majority
for so long. Non-Delaware establishment money and support is OK,
but conservative money isn't."
Seek| 9.17.10 @ 2:49PM
Roanld Reagan liked to say, "My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy."
Mike Castle might not have been a "pure" conservative, but he was
still one of us and more than electable. Thanks to the Red State
Uber Alles/Tea Party types, we've got Christine O'Donnell, a smarmy
and inexperienced Christian fundamentalist, representing the
GOP.
Before any of posters on this site excoriate me for my latent
RINO tendencies, keep in mind O'Donnell is every bit the feminist
as anyone on the Left. A number of years ago she filed a bullshit
lawsuit of nearly $7 million against the Intercollegiate Studies
Institute in Wilmington, Del., one of the oldest and most respected
of all conservative think tanks, alleging "sexism" was involved in
her demotion. She eventually dropped the action for want of funds,
but it didn't speak well of her.
Never trust a radical feminist, even one on the Right. That goes
as well for Sarah Palin, our own Evita. Can't stand either
woman.
Anthony| 9.17.10 @ 3:34PM
Well Seek, I wasn't going to excoriate you for your latent RINO
tendencies, but I do find your misogynist rant that O'Donnell and
Palin are "radical feminists" to be quite revealing.
You "can't stand either woman"?? God knows what we'll really find
if we scratch the surface of those two comments.
UpChuck.Liberals| 9.17.10 @ 11:57PM
I'd guess an Islamist. Or he has a serious issue with real
women. Much the same thing.
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 2:30AM
Radical feminist? What in the hell does that have to do with a
lawsuit on sexism?
If you worked for a female boss and were being paid less than
your female counterparts, would suing make you a "radical male
chauvinist?" Hardly. I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
And what does inexperience or "Christian fundamentalism" have to
do with anything? I can't find those litmus tests in the
Constitution. Can you?
Personally, I'd rather support someone that sticks to their
values, and doesn't sell out to the highest bidder, as opposed to
someone that simply has an "R" in front of their name. I sleep
better at night as a result.
I will no longer hold my nose and compromise myself just to get
RINO "Republicans" like Dole, Bush & Bush, McCain et al
elected. I'd rather sit on my ass on election day and let a
Democrat get elected, which is the same as voting for a RINO.
The letter in front of the name is irrelevant. Screw their
"electability." What good is their electability if they're voted in
and then constantly vote against your values?
WayneH| 9.18.10 @ 12:28AM
Good post kj. I often find myself wondering why none of the GOP
leaders or their strategists have made any attempt to counter
Obummer's ridiculous analogy. It almost seems like the GOP is
accepting the argument that they ran the economy into the ditch. If
they could successfully counter that argument, I think a much
larger portion of the "independents" might swing to the GOP in 2010
- and we certainly need them.
Petronius| 9.18.10 @ 10:24AM
Yeah kj
Ross Perot was going to get under the hood and fix it. Mechanics?
People get into government so they don't have to do anything for a
paycheck. They are the service managers who tell you that the first
appointment to get your broken down vehicle looked at will be 3
weeks from tomorrow.
And as to padding the bill, can you say porkulus?
The car dealership service dept. isn't a bad analogy. The top
Government Motors union shops here have a base rate labor charge of
$82 an hour. But customer or taxpayer, we're nothing to them but
objects of contempt.
rdman| 9.17.10 @ 5:13PM
The Hapless, Insecure Establishment Republicans
With very few exceptions, the career republican fears if they
act too aggressively, they may jeopardize their pursuit to be part
of the Washington DC Ruling Elitist Clique and will suffer some
sort punishment as a result. As a result, they become prey to
intense anxiety, seeking reassurances that, no matter what they
have done in the past, their pursuit to be accepted by the DC
Ruling Elitist Clique is still a possibility, revealing a
frightened, insecure, spineless person beneath the facade of the
tough authoritarian.
Career republicans who exhibited blustering toughness during
election cycles, even projecting that they no longer need to be
accepted by the DC Ruling Elitists, once elected and seated now
shift abruptly. Almost tearful and obsequious, they become
frustrated and disgusted with themselves for not being tough enough
to stand on their own two feet to defend themselves, to be
independent, to stand on their principles. They feel cowardly
because they have not had the spine to sustain their blustering
toughness.
Career republicans become ineffective because their
self-disparagement and insecurity which creates intense feelings of
inferiority and worthlessness. Their indecision and evasiveness has
now deteriorated into massive insecurity and anxiety, convincing
them that they are incompetent and unable to do anything effective
on their own. They can only marginally function with the hope of
being accepted by the Ruling Elitist Clique by “morbid clinging”
dependency.
The longer career republicans remain seated, the more worthless
they become, whining and complaining and disparaging themselves to
the extent that they weaken whatever remaining influence they have,
becoming an emotional drain on their constituents and everyone else
around them. Their despondency has the uncanny ability to induce
their anxieties and negativity into others, virtually forcing their
constituents to make other choices in their voting booths.
Good-bye and good riddance, Establishment Repubs.
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 2:54AM
God bless you, sir.
The average establishment republican, these days, looks more
like Sally Fields wondering if the establishment "really, really,
likes them." Pathetic.
If they can't show leadership, can't stick to conservative
values (few have in the past 20 years), and can't legislate without
wondering how the self proclaimed, so-called, "cool kids" think,
then they deserve to lose.
If Republicans can't learn from Reagan's landslide victories,
then let them keep their balls in their spouse's purses, where they
belong.
rdman| 9.17.10 @ 5:17PM
The Exploitative, Opportunist Establishment Democrats
The darlings of the Washington DC Ruling Elitist Clique and
their fawning so-called Main Stream Media (MSM), failure is one of
the most humiliating prospects for democrats. When they overextend
themselves and cannot make good on their claims, and to protect
their status with the DC Ruling Elitist Clique and the MSM, they
will resort to exploitation to maintain their self-inflated
esteem.
As democrats see it, exploitation is necessary to continue to
project a superior self-image. Ironically, they believe they are
superior not only to everyone else, but also to themselves by
exceeding the limits of their talents, thus they must take what
they need from others to maintain their superiority.
Their fear of failure makes democrats more than willing to be
dishonest to get what they need to maintain at least the illusion
of superiority. They are pragmatists and have no principles other
than what works for them… the consequences: they lie about their
policies, take credit for the work of others, or plagiarize to make
themselves seem more outstanding than they are. Democrats are
determined not to be losers, no matter who must pay the price for
their corruption.
They are ready to sell out, lie, betray their loyalties and take
advantage of others to come out on top. Because they have never
developed a conscience, they do not feel guilty about exploiting
others. In colloquial terms, democrats are hustlers, people "on the
make," opportunists taking advantage of situations and crisis’…
always to the detriment of others. Their lack of affect is also
particularly valuable now… they can callously use people without
the slightest thought for their welfare… "What's in it for me? How
can I use this for myself?"
Hapless, insecure republicans, aware of the democrat’s
opportunism are usually afraid of confronting them. Democrats count
on the fact that others dare not say or do anything about their
behavior for fear of retaliation. Their lack of decency makes it
difficult for others to defend themselves against democrats because
they know that democrats will go lower than they are willing to
descend into the gutter.
Exploiting people reveals the contempt in which democrats hold
others. Because they do not see other people as real or as having
value without reference to themselves, using people is not a moral
problem for them… because they have no morals. Others are merely
providers of attention and admiration, as objects to be used to
aggrandize themselves. This is why there is absolutely nothing
reciprocal about a relationship with democrats. They will keep a
relationship going as long as they get what they want, but will
drop the “useful idiots” under the bus without a second thought,
particularly if someone more desirable comes along.
Yet why are citizen voters so often taken advantage of by
democrats? The answer lies in the strength of the narcissistic
desires democrats awaken in some citizen voters. Voters unwittingly
give democrats power over them to the degree that they lack true
self-esteem themselves. They mistakenly think that democrats will
somehow endow them with what appears to be their limitless
self-esteem. This never happens… the sad fact is that democrats
would have no power over others if people did not give it to
them.
Unfortunately for hapless, anxious, insecure republicans,
democrats remain highly functional. Democrats do not become
depressed, anxious, emotionally conflicted, incapacitated, or
self-destructive. On the contrary, they depress others, make others
feel anxious and conflicted, incapacitate others, and drive others
to self-destructive acts. It is always others who suffer. Democrats
are able to walk away from relationships as if nothing has
happened, and as far as they are concerned, nothing has.
Like sharks, they are extraordinarily well adapted to their
environment. And like sharks, they injure and kill cold-bloodedly,
and keep moving.
However, as long as they keep moving, they keep breathing...
viligence is the key!!!
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 3:10AM
Awesome... a "two-fer" in one night!!! If you ever decide to run
for office, I volunteer to be a member of your campaign staff.
/RaisesGlass
/Cheers
rdman| 9.18.10 @ 1:21PM
GavInTucson,
Following is a portion of another paper I wrote several years
ago that follows the theme of the last two posts:
"The Rise of the Government Class
After decades of progressive incrementalism, the United States
Government has finally surfaced to reveal a culture of ungodly and
soulless tyrants, thugs and bullies. Cynically disguised as
distinguished, articulate, self-appointed elitists, these despotic,
vacuous, narcissistic, image-oriented hypocrites emphasize symbols
over substance and reality. The pursuit of excellence is being
replaced by the celebration of the artificial. Politicians are more
concerned with the display of personalities and pursuit of personal
power than with principles or the use of power for the common
good.
This generation of politicians has become experts at deceitful
duplicity, selling their calculated positions to the public to the
point that voters can no longer tell the fabricated image from a
real person. The voters are so seduced by the slick package that
they often do not realize that there is nothing in it… the slick
package is the message.
The shallow values and beguiling oratorical skills have become
the norms by which everything is measured. The only guideline is
the ability to gain attention… what is noticed has value.
Calculated images successfully masquerade as reality. Exhibitionism
and self-promotion is now acceptable as Government Class factions
compete to be the winner… to be famous and celebrated."
In my opinion, the problem We the People have faced is what good
patriot of integrity and character would want to expose themselves
to the snake pit that is Washington DC.
It is absolutely gratifying that the great silent majority has
finally risen giving true constitutional patriots hope and
confidence that we can indeed run and WIN, which has exposed the
"inside the beltway" establishment class as shallow whiners and
cowards. We have come to realize that the real power is with We the
People... just as our Founding Fathers intended.
chirs haynes| 9.17.10 @ 6:18PM
Castle supports legal abortion. 42 million, 7 times the
holocaust, innocent humans killed with his blessing.
Hey Karl Rove, Krauthammer, Steele. That's not enough to rule
him out?
TR| 9.17.10 @ 7:28PM
You are so right.
The person who was going to discover the cure for cancer was an
innocent child murdered 30 years ago, but the murderer called it
"choice".
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 3:13AM
Thank God Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, and Einstein weren't
choices, right?
TR| 9.18.10 @ 2:10PM
Yes, Gav. They were all born in a time where the absolute evil
of abortion was recognized plainly. Our 1960s -
anything-goes-if-it's-right-for-me mentality that was fed and
nourished by the sick-minded leftists has given us "choice".
Liberals always use feel-good terms to make their sins more
palatable to the ignorant. I truly feel for the impressionable
young girls that are snookered by them when they are in a moment of
personal crisis. Every woman I have ever met that had an abortion
regrets it almost daily and they carry the pain forever.
Etiquette Man| 9.18.10 @ 6:51AM
Wow! This guy's legs are so long, he really CAN be on both sides
of the fence at the same time!
You can always count on good ol' Quin to say "I was with you the
whole time!" when a conservative beats one of his favored
RINO's.
Then we get to experience his fully nuanced "Beltway Shuffle" as
he recasts each of his problematic past statements with a mendacity
that would make Bubba Clinton blush.
You can expect a column next week about how the Delaware
situation raises some "serious concerns" for "longtime
conservatives" like himself.
Vote conservative! Vote early (and, if in Chicago, often)!
Screw the RINO's and their Hillyerian water carriers.
MtTopPatriot| 9.18.10 @ 9:03AM
You said it Mr. Hillyer! Everything good and noble about our
American way of life stems from this.
wodiej| 9.18.10 @ 9:07AM
Unfortunate that the overwhelming response to this article
involves violence, fighting, guns, bloodshed. If we put our faith
in God, He will do the rest. We reap what we sow. God expects us to
stand up for values and principles but the best way to do that is
through example. If you get even that is what you are-even. You are
no better than the opposition. Let's lead by example not by
imitating the very thing we propose to be fighting against.
aware| 9.18.10 @ 9:38AM
The enemy is and always has been the State. Neo cons would argue
that what the State does is the problem. This is wrong. It
implicitly accepts a monster and futilely tries to make
accommodations with it. The State doesn't care who feeds it as long
as it is fed.
The real fault line is the existence of an entity that has
unquestioned power over all aspects of our lives. This is becoming
more apparent everyday. With all the battles and elections, with
all the laws passed and amended or repealed, with all the articles
written for or against, and with all the strawmen stood up and
knocked down in the past 100 years one fact emerges, the State has
now become bigger than ever. It hasn't been pruned in
generations.
All support for the State is socialistic and the State is the
enforcer of socialism.
For those advocating some sort of armed rebellion one very
important aspect of the State should be understood, it seeks and
maintains a monopoly of violence. Without this there is no State.
Those who support the State in any way support the use of violence,
implicitly or explicitly. This is why rebellions rarely
succeed.
The real fight should not be for control of the means of
exploitation(the State), it is not enough to see the State in a
"dormant" phase, as has happened before. It flairs up again every
time, more powerful and virulent than ever. This is rightly called
the Ratchet Effect.
The State and liberty exist in a finite world where augmenting
one diminishes the other. It is impossible to have maximum liberty
and the all powerful State at the same time.
In my own opinion, the real battle is not about what the State
does or doesn't do, or who is running it, it is about the existence
of an entity that can do what ever it wants to whomever it wants
through "the law".
The rinos don't understand this and neither do the neo cons, but
either you resist the State or you are feeding it. With the Ruling
Elite the litmus test to be passed if you want to be "in" is simply
acceptance and accommodation to the State, regardless of party.
Tim| 9.18.10 @ 9:41AM
This whole matter reminds me of the Movie Braveheart.
William Wallace tells Robert the Bruce in responce to Robert
informing Wallace that the Scottish Nobles were in bed with the
English Lords and both conspired against the Poor
Wallace correctly pointed out to Robert the Bruce:
That people don't follow titles they follow courage!
Thus those that display courage and speak truth to power will
political destroy the lie driven scum this November. It's just that
simple!
Petronius| 9.18.10 @ 10:37AM
Aye
But did Sir William Wallace yell "FREEDOM" as he was
disemboweled?
dale wrigley| 9.19.10 @ 12:53AM
"I couldn't have said it better myself:
"conservative principles are specifically principles rooted in
the American tradition and the American experience, and they stem
from the laws of nature and of nature's God, which means they are
right and good and just."
You see, what the liberals can't understand is that we're right,
because we're following the laws of God and nature. How can you
tell our policies are following the laws of God and Nature? Because
they're right. If we were wrong, then we wouldn't be. It's as
simple as that.
martin j smith| 9.19.10 @ 11:42AM
Even in very Blue nyc there are many voters who do not buy the
Liberal BS. Bloomberg you may have heard is going to help moderate
candidates ( that means Democrat Party folks ). In this siutation
you are really getting who the RINOS really are--The are Socialist
Democrats who are LIARS about their true political leanings. As
with Bloomberg,Castle and others you all know they show their true
colors when they lose.
Darin| 9.17.10 @ 7:02AM
Principles of limited government by definition support the principle of individual responsibility. Each person has the responsibility to take care of themselves and the obligation to care for their families and communities. When the government takes from one person and gives to another, it's not charity. When the individual gives of their own free will (be it money, time, moral support), it benefits both the recipient and the giver.
Alan Brooks| 9.17.10 @ 11:01PM
It's a non-starter. A conservative wants lower taxes, but he wants the state to help some in his family-- even if they are very well off. So you multiply that times millions of conservatives who want the state to help Grampy and Gran, and you go nowhere with limited government. In the past such duplicity worked because not enough proles knew what the game was all about. Plus the population has aged, meaning more Grampsies and Grannies exist to demand their cut of the state- funded action, even if they don't need it.
Means testing isn't the 'In' Thing, it isn't sexy.
Means testing isn't where it's at, Baby.
WayneH| 9.18.10 @ 12:33AM
More blather. Now Alan thinks he knows what conservatives want. In his world, deep down we all want to just keep careening off the edge of the cliff and then emerge in some great Utopian marxist nirvana where we will all have our very own teleprompters so we can chant in sync with the "one".
Alan Brooks| 9.18.10 @ 11:55PM
STILL, your Granny is living high off the hog.
Life begins at 65.
megapotamus| 9.19.10 @ 8:46AM
Hey, the guy is right. Or he was 'til lately. Maybe.... MAYBE spending cuts were theoretically appealing to the electorate but when it came time to cut Uncle Jim's corn subsidies or Grannie Moses' hip replacement unenlightened self-interest ruled the day. But that is not THIS day. We are so upside-down on entitlements and all the other malign interventions accumulated over the century (not least Bush's) that even the semi-informed majority is forced to see that the status quo can only lead to catastrophic default. There is no other destination on this track. It is a cul de sac. So it is not between a tax cut for JP Moneybags and Tiny Tim's surgery. You can empty the pockets of everyone making the magical sum of $250,001 and still Tiny Tim dies. Either there will be radical reformation of these boondoggles, slashing benefits in some regard or their checks will bounce. The only third alternative is that thing they call "monetizing the debt". What dat? It is the modern equivalent of printing greenbacks in whatever quantity is desired. Surely even the most enthusiastic spender of other peoples' money cannot be ignorant of the downside to that. So cheer up. Things are so bad there is no alternative to the discipline we should have been practising all along and that is real progress, paradoxically.
WayneH| 9.19.10 @ 11:28AM
STILL, no solutions from you Alan, just blind faith in the doomed status quo.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 9.17.10 @ 7:13AM
Of course, not all principles are worthwhile: Communist principles and Nazi principles, for instance, are anathema in this country and Americans are too good to adopt them.
Why is the above quote in an article about conservatism and the Tea Party? It should be in any article written about the Democratic Party or perhaps the Muslim religion but why place it in an article about the Tea Party and conservatism?
It would be east to grift off an essay about Democrats and Nazism because the principles of Obama and the principles of Nazism and Communism go hand in glove with the Obama administration. In fact, on two separate occasions the Obama administration had to remove two czars/presidential appointees after their communist views were revealed.
It's really ironic how many pundits love to tell the Tea Party not to go too far and this is a common theme you even observe on Fox News.
What we've had in this country for 50 years are two political parties whose radical views on spending have taken us to the precipice of financial disaster. The irony is that the public did not reject it.
The principles of that spending are supportive of big government, whose control of the economy has now become the twin brother of communism.
Is it now too late for the public to reject it? Perhaps not.
But your statement that those principles are rejected by the public are not true. The reason we have the problems we have now is because the public accepted those principles.
Now many in the public appear alarmed as the bills come due and the economy appears to be in a slow motion crash.
The truth is whether you call it Communism or Nazism it was simply big government where economic decisions and policies were all the result of central economic planning.
As I write this the ignoble Bob Schieffer is on TV doing a slam job on Palin, comparing her movement to the failed conservative efforts of Barry Goldwater.
While the media continues to tell the public that the Tea Party may have radical elements, the national media failed for the last 50 years to pinpoint corrupt government practices, corrupt politicians, which has lead to the most radical element of all.
An all encompassing power inside the beltway which has now seized the power to make life and death decisions over your life, i.e., Obamacare.
In essence, the public hasn't rejected the concepts behind Communism and Nazism. In fact, one hand out after another has lead them like lemmings to find the proverbial bread crumbs, down the primrose path to disaster.
Kenneth E.MacAlister Jr.| 9.18.10 @ 12:54PM
Who is Bob Schieffer & why does his opinion matter? Just curious.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 9.19.10 @ 10:55AM
Bob Schieffer is an alleged journalist whose liberalism blinds him to the real essence of any news article put before him. His opinion doesn't matter, at least to me. He's just another liberal gas bag with delusions of grandeur, fueled by his liberal essence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Schieffer
Appleby| 9.17.10 @ 7:25AM
I propose that we recruit some folks to take copies of the Declaration of Independence, written out in modern English and not identified as such, to the streets, and ask the Ignoranti if they would sign our Petition Against The Government. Odds are excellent that most of them would not recognize it, and many Hippie Scum would enthusiastically sign it. You could even leave in King George, because most of the HS would assume you meant George W. Bush!
What we need is another American Revolution. Or perhaps we need the original American Revolution.
CopyKatnj| 9.17.10 @ 7:33AM
Point well made. At a Tea Party rally on July 4, that is exactly what one speaker did. It was powerful and opened the eyes of many people.
Ret. Marine| 9.17.10 @ 7:48AM
" Or perhaps we need the original revolution" I believe we are witnessing the exact point. Even though, we are not firing lead at each other, but if fact it may come to this, the vitriol is about as damaging. On one side of the camp we have the enemies of the Republic, i.e. demonrat party, little tyrant's of the progressive types, all of those UN backers, the one World Order proponents. On the other side the free market capitalist, Representative Republic types and God fearing, gun tooting Bible holders of our Faith. It would appear to the person paying attention, the battle lines have been clearly drawn. The remaining question is, do we have the numbers equivalent for the final match. Be it literal match that ignites the fire of the original revolution and its cause of the match to ignite the resurgence of what the founding principles, undiluted, are understood to mean or the version of what the unrelenting revisionist have in mind for us all.
Nunya| 9.17.10 @ 2:13PM
Just keep in mind... It's we conservatives that have all of the guns. :-)
Fredrick Ward| 9.17.10 @ 5:11PM
Don't kid yourself on this one. The other side has plenty of weapons. Given the right opportunity they will use them to deadly precision too. Their justifications are simply that anyone against them are enemies of the State, and pose an eminent threat. That is line that will be given for their actions, and no one will question it for too long.
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 1:04AM
Short of using nukes in its own citizens, that's a silly argument. If the government has difficulty suppressing an insurgency in a foreign country where the enemy is out manned 6:1, then you can forget trying to fight an armed citizenry at home where the government is out manned at 80:1.
Not going to happen, not in this life time, not ever.
Fredrick Ward| 9.20.10 @ 12:05PM
GavinTucson,
I do not doubt that there are enough weapons in the public to start such a war. The problem lies in the fact that there is no cohesiveness, and no direction within the population that exists within the United States military. A force of U.S. Marines, or the U.S. Army would have a greater chance of survival against the major populace of this country for that very reason.
How many people would actually pick up arms in this country? I highly doubt that the majority of this country would do so. Therefore, the numbers you show are flimsy at best.
Fredrick Ward| 9.20.10 @ 12:12PM
As an addendum to my comment, or rather an addition, I would point out how long people stood by the war against terrorism. A few years and most people forgot what it was about, and why it is so important. A few years after that a great majority wanted our troops back home without actually finishing the job. Now they have what they want and guess what? The situation has not been resolved. In actuality it has gotten worse due to the lack of finality and the lack of the aim to actually win.
This country's populace is fickle, and care more for their own personal luxuries than they care for their neighbor. Such a populace cannot win in a Civil War against it's own massive, well trained military.
Anna Mossity| 9.21.10 @ 12:53PM
"And now they have what they want?!" What are you TALKING about?!!! The wars aren't OVER, not by a long shot! Simply SAYING that combat operations have ceased does NOT make it so, or it'd have been over that day when Bush made his showy speech under the "Mission Accomplished!" sign.
Fredrick Ward| 9.24.10 @ 3:19AM
Once again, the mission was not to win, and it still isn't. Therefore, the war is essentially over, and already lost whether conflicts continue or not.
TR| 9.18.10 @ 1:46PM
The only "weapon" that leftist commies have is the unwavering devotion of the left-stream media. They are all scared to death of guns, and if they were able to figure out how to operate one after consulting with their focus groups, they would inevitably shoot themselves instead.
The enemy of the state are the anti-Constitutionalists, which just so happen to be against the patriots.
Oh - a postscript. I forgot that the leftists are well versed in how to build and use bombs against citizens of the US as they displayed so well in the 60s and through their hero the Unibomber. And before you idiots refer to McVeigh, he was not a patriot, he was an anti-american satan.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 2:39PM
Hi Ret. Marine.
I enjoy your posts, and this one is, pardon the expression, is dead on. As you may have read in my previous posts, I have a vested interest in the survival of our Republic in its Constitutional form as intended bu our founders. My father is a ret. AF Col, I served in the AF 6 yrs, both of my brothers served in the Navy, and our original American ancestor arrived circa 1760 and we have documented evidence of his service under Gen. Washington during the Revolution.
I agree that forced conflict with our clear-cut enemy may occur. I truly hope not, but I am not blind to what is happening. We are at a crossroads that I have watched unfold over the past 4 decades. The forces of darkness, the marxist democracts, the one-world-order religion types, have pushed us to the brink with their perversion under color of faux law, not Constitutional law.
I do not fear a lack of "numbers" when the crap hits the fan. I have no doubt, based on posts I have read that were authored by you, that you have complete knowledge of our history, and there was never 100% support of the Revolution at that time, many people wanted just to "get along" with the tyranny. Yet my ancestor, Gaspar Roether and his fellow patriots got the job done, thank God.
You, me, and other patriots are well armed and trained. The, excuse me for being so crude, the pussies we face are a bunch of limp wristed hand wringing libturds who will scream and wet themselves as soon as we begin to enforce our Constitution. They are afraid of guns, they are all talk and no balls. They are good at invictive asinine illogic, they are good at using the English language to warp and distort, to convince weak minded people how "caring" they are while ripping unborn babies out of their mother's wombs, but under that sick minded facade they are a bunch of pantywaist wimps and we will take them all out of the picture in short order. And even if the marxist-in-chief wimp demands an military response against us, I predict an immediate refusal to take up arms against a righteous citizenry.
We will win one way or the other against those who are a clear and present danger to our Republic.
Semper fi.
Nunya| 9.17.10 @ 3:37PM
Very cool family history, you should be very proud.
Like you, I pray that it never has to happen, that somehow We the People turn things around. Unfortunately I am not confident in that. So, if the worst has to happen, I will be proud to stand beside a patriot like yourself.
Semper fi
BackToBasics| 9.17.10 @ 6:19PM
I am not confident either. I've sometimes wondered if we will be able to carve out a Republic with some good strength from part of the country, perhaps the Plains, Midwest and a good portion of the South?
I really see the country fracturing first in a civil war and then later geographically. What our outside enemies will doing while this is going on is anybody's guess. It is doubtful that we will be left alone from them if it comes down to this.
Nancy in NC| 9.17.10 @ 4:30PM
I want you guys on my side...I'm an old woman, but I do have a nifty 12 gauge and a SW 38 that I can hit something with occasionally...I don't miss with the 12 gauge though.
I have the occasion to talk to the Marines almost daily, and I can tell you, most of them with any rank or IQ are pretty fed up. Just mention the blue hats to them, and their ire goes up. So I would say your prediction is spot on. Also have talked to local police, and they're on our side.
Now, if the voters will get their butts to the polls on Nov. 2 we will have a start. I hope and pray that a big victory in Nov. will not make folks things are under control...that's just the first battle in a long war.
The progressives have been working on this agenda for about 100 years. They won't go down without a fight, but they are wusses that would crap themselves if it came down to the wire. I'm not sure if most of them one know one end of a weapon from the other.
Semper fi, and keep your powder dry.
Ret. Marine| 9.17.10 @ 8:47PM
Thanks Granny, I have a grandmother, currently 99, just as fisty as you. She tells me not to worry, she'll be there to heal the wounds if it comes to that, back at yah.
RCV| 9.17.10 @ 5:14PM
Ah, yes. The believers in a democratic Republic. They lose one election at the ballot box, and they are so convinced (as I am) that they could never persuade the American people to vote their candidates in, they're already plotting their little armed rebellions. Your fantasies are never going to happen. You try and take over this country militarily and you will see the resolve of the American people in all its fury. And, if you think you have all the guns, you've forgotten about the military arsenal your federal government has built up, and the soldiers -- now drawn in so small part from the ranks of our African American and Latino populations now that we have a volunteer army -- who are ready to fulfill their oaths. When the federal government ordered school integration, even though the majority of those in the state national guard in the south opposed the orders given, they remained true to our nation, and when federalized, moved against the little Jeff Davises in the statehouses in the South. The next challenge will be no different. We didn't watch our ancestors die and be maimed in the Civil War to preserve the Union to let you little Timmie McVeighs take one inch of our country away. Semper Fi is right.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 6:52PM
This is not a democratic Republic, it is a representative Republic.
Our founders warned against a democracy, for obvious historic reasons. So keep your democratic crap.
As to my statement: I know and communicat e with people in the military and the law enforcement, and they agree with the danger from the marxists in charge. They do not respect out glorious dear "leader", and are ready if patriots begin. This situation bears no resemblance to what happened in the 50s with state refusal to fulfill correct and righteous policy. We are opposed to the federal takeover of private institutions and businesses, to the complete deafness of the will of the People. The majority called loudly to drop the govt. takeover of the medical field, but they rammed it through (it will be overturned by the SCOTUS as an illegal power grab).
If you mean losing one election, we do not see an election where ACORN, the Black Panthers and other criminal groups stacked and stuffed the ballot boxes with dead people votes, with multiple votes, with voter intimidation(and every instance of these actions was filmed for all to see) and the refusal of the Justice Dept. to follow law, the favoring of law application based on race, the murder of babies, the absolute soulless corruption and marxist actions by this administration, by the disdain to the Constitution and the verbal and written comments from the president in the years leading up to his 15 minute career in the senate where he proclaims that the Constitution, in essense, matters not when you have bigger objectives, we will take action. We listened to the crap coming from the marxists for 8 years of GW Bush, the death threats on their radio AirAmerica, the constant protests. Now, we are playing from your playbook and you protest "give him a chance!" Bullshit. He is a dyed in the wool anti business anti freedom anti american, and we see it. And if you think that the real patriots will turn on us, you are the one that is sadly mistaken.
As far as your typical red-herring Timothy McVeigh comment, KMA. That devil was not a God fearing Constitution loving American, He was just what he was, a devil.
And as far as taking back one inch of your country, it has been usurped and stolen by the left through lies, theft, and the bully pulpit of the left-stream press. Those days are over, and we will win if it comes to it.
I took an oath and never un-took it. I will defend my Constitution and nation even if it means I pay the ultimate price, just like the patriots of 1776. They were told the same thing you spew and knew that they has the righteous cause. It was difficult, but we know who won.
I do agree that it will probably be a civil war however, not a revolution. I'd be happy to settle for the real America and let the vermin leftists keep the coasts. They have pretty much destroyed them with their policies anyway.
I don;t want it, I am just prepared to act the moment it starts. I will not start the fire, but I will add my gasoline with full and devoted force.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 7:07PM
sorry for the multiple typos in that post. I forgot to proofread before hitting send.
RCV| 9.17.10 @ 7:46PM
You're not taking one inch of this country anywhere. You add your gasoline all you want, and you will be dealt with by our dedicated law enforcement officers. If the Supreme Court finds the Health Care Bill unconstitutional, then so be it. We will respect that ruling. If they find it constitutional, that's your obligation as well. You don't get to pick and choose which elections of the people you will respect. We elected Barack Obama President in 2008, after 8 years of Republican misrule. If you can convince the American people to elect your candidates, you'll then have your choice. But if that doesn't happen TR, that's life.
No sweat on the typos - I'm famous for them.
Ret. Marine| 9.17.10 @ 8:55PM
Hang in there TR, this little louis farrakon thinks he's all that and a bag of crack added to it. He more than likely doesn't even realize TMcV was a terrorist, there was plenty of documented evidence covered up at his trial, i.e. not knowing how to make a Ammonia Nitrate bomb before meeting up with the little Yousef in the Phillipines, and suddenly knowing after returning, etc... yeah and that little line....democratic republic, that was a knee slapper. Notice though how it failed to respond to his marxistness.
RCV| 9.17.10 @ 11:25PM
What do these incoherent ramblings even mean?
SeattleBruce| 9.18.10 @ 9:03AM
What does your ad hominem attack mean? Ah, methinks it means you're not secure enough in your own arguments to let them stand on their own - would that be correct?
Tim*| 9.17.10 @ 7:02PM
"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy."
John Adams
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 1:29AM
Your ignorance of the military and its understanding of the Constitution is so blinding that I had to laugh out loud at your post, RCV.
But, that's okay. You just keep telling yourself happy, happy thoughts of total government control of the populace at your little liberal circle-jerk at Starbucks.
RCV| 9.18.10 @ 12:41PM
You guys are so laughable in your disconnect with reality! You live in the freest, most prosperous society in history, with the ability to transmit your distorted views to millions around the globe in an instant, to elect your governmental representatives, to stockpile your little toy firearms that make you feel like a big guy, and you sit around and whine about "total government control.". You're pathetic.
Tim*| 9.18.10 @ 1:51PM
Uh oh !
The King' s Tory attempts The Talk Down To The Great Unwashed Gambit .
That's Pathetic with Fries.
GavInTucson| 10.18.10 @ 3:06AM
When it's all said and done, you'll be serving me my fries. You don't have a choice. You're already being counted on "the other side."
GavInTucson| 10.18.10 @ 3:04AM
Disconnected with reality??? Freest society in history??? Okay, RCV, keep living in your bubble.
Are you really stupid enough to believe that the ability to post something on the Internet makes you free??? You, me, and everyone, are being watched, you fool.
One day you might actually wake up to the fact that you no longer "decide" the elections in this country. They're bought and paid for by the true masters of this country. A master that been trying to gain control of this country since it's inception, and has been nearly working since 1913.
Fredrick Ward| 9.17.10 @ 5:40PM
"You, me, and other patriots are well armed and trained."
Folks, while I do advocate standing up for what is right, and I have stated in the past that this issue may come to blows, I do not desire this. Mainly because anyone who has been witness to war knows that it is never anything so pretty and clean as it is on TV.
I'm going to get right to it. If this comes to a physical confrontation then this will be anything but easy. Those in power will use whatever weapons are at their disposal to put down the insurrection, as they would see it. That also means that our own military forces, police, national guard, CIA, etc would be against us. Do not think that all the forces will back down from a fight against it's own citizens. That kind of thinking is failure before it begins, and will lead to a quick finish to any uprising. This age is completely different from the time of the first Revolution. The technology and systems in place now make such a conflict much worse, and head on assault incredibly insane. This would need to be a fight of clandestine strategic strikes. That is the only way to fight and have a possibility of winning.
In such a fight some of your neighbors, friends, and family would even call you traitor, and turn on you. They will side with the powers that be, and you will be forced to give up, run from, or fight the very people you wish to protect. The government would put into effect marshal law. Check points would be everywhere, and even the 'innocent', or 'uninvolved' would be persecuted by the fanatical systems set in place to deter the militants' actions. Most of you cannot know what you are even contemplating when it comes to such a horror as this scenario. If the real fighting ever does begin most people in this country will take the chains that the government offers instead of fighting for the freedoms they will lose. They will see living out their lives with their loved ones under the tyranny a better option than possibly losing their loved ones in an assault.
Pray that this current situation does not come to such.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 6:59PM
All of my friends and nieghbors have all spoken out loudly that they will join also. This is not the sheeple nation that ObaMao and the other marxists think it is. The peole are fed up and armed and ready.
Was is ugly, war is hell, and war is not desirable. But a coward dies a thousand deaths, a hero but once.
Tyranny is not acceptable and will not be allowed to progress.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 7:10PM
again sorry for the typos. I must proofread better.
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 7:58PM
You guys lost an election because the republicans bungled running the country for 8 years. Suck it up and stop whining. Nobody is coming to steal your guns, or your freedoms. You're probably about to retake at least the house, if not all of Congress. Christ, you're a bunch of babies. Do you not understand how this country works? If this is how you react when a moderate liberal is elected, I shudder to think would happen if this country ever elected an actual leftist.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 8:13PM
MODERATE LIBERAL?????????
Marxism is not moderate. And this man is a marxist.
Shudder away.
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 8:30PM
Right, a marxist who bails out investment banks. Grow up.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 8:48PM
Just one part of his muti-pronged plan to implode the economy to enact his full marxist agenda. All well documented by people who actually understand what he is doing along with his cloward-piven strategy. I am grown up, you need to wise up. Fool.
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 9:01PM
Sorry, I read your paranoid fantasies about killing people who disagree with you politically and figured you weren't an adult. Tell me about the rest of Obama's multi-pronged plan to implode the economy? It's odd-after the bailout, the economy (while far from doing well) stopped imploding. Instead of such an elaborate scheme, why didn't he just sit back and do nothing?
Do you even know a single 'leftist'? Maybe you should take some time to get to know your fellow
Americans instead of dreaming of the revolution.
SeattleBruce| 9.18.10 @ 9:15AM
"the economy (while far from doing well) stopped imploding."
This is not an economic strategy. The problem is that liberals think that government can innovate and create jobs - when we all know it can do neither. Here's the Econ 101 difference for you DRed - Take $100,000 and create on gubmint job, or take that same $100,000 and invest it in a viable small business and create say 3 jobs, and then with growth another 5 or 10 - and so forth. Meantime that other gubmint $100,000 is being sucked down the drain and for what - some reporting or clerical or paper pusher job?
Like I said, innovation and job creation - government can do neither. Your problem is that you BELIEVE in governement. I don't.
Government has a limited role - for the reasons outlined.
You and BHO are failing because of this.
It's time to MOVE ON!!
DRed| 9.18.10 @ 1:11PM
Again, you're completely missing my point. I'm not trying to convince you to become a liberal. What I'm arguing is that Obama isn't the radical, anti-American marxist that the right wing noise machine keeps claiming he is.
Simon Templar| 9.18.10 @ 10:07PM
I was once a liberal..more like a radical and read all the same books your so-called moderate liberal did that sits in the white house. He is an anti-american, anti-west, liberation theology marxist. Try reading his book, Dreams from My Father, you might actually learn something about your dear leader. Once again facts and reality escape you. This is a typical liberal ploy...make the conservative out to be paranoid, extreme, exaggerating fool. You are losing. Each day more and more people are waking up. No one on this site is exaggerating or using political hyperbole to make a political point. They see clearly what is going on and what your dear leader and his progressive cadre are up to..the gigs up...
Petronius| 9.18.10 @ 10:01AM
In order to carry out his agenda of Marxist redistribution, There must be a store of other people's wealth to confiscate. Ask Castro and Chavez, they'll tell you.
Patriot| 9.17.10 @ 8:58PM
moderate liberal, no not by a long shot, he's a little moa in the making...and many of us have the solution for what ailes him.....
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 9:07PM
Yes, he's a moderate liberal. To pick a few issues: A more liberal president would have put gays in the military, tried hard to legalize gay marriage, not bailed out wall street fat cats, instituted a single payer national healthcare system, not appointed an elitist moderate like Kagan to the supreme court, stopped insisting he has the right to extralegally assassinate American citizens, emptied guantanamo . . . I could go on, but I get the sense most of you aren't open to argument.
UpChuck.Liberals| 9.17.10 @ 11:52PM
If our Dear Leader is a Moderate anything then I'm a full fledged, card carrying member of the Communist Party. You sir are a fool. I'm also willing to bet you think that Islam is the Religion of Peace. BTW, yes the Repubics had the White House for 8 years but the Dems and their RINO Repubics had the Congress since Jan 5, 2007. Bush was a idiot for signing the stuff that they put out but your Socialist buddies and the idiot RINOs were the ones that wrote the stuff that is causing the problems today. Your Dear Leader is a lazy idiot bought and paid for by Soros and the other left wing Socialist loons.
Yes, if it does come to it there will be a fight and the guys with the guns will be on our side, they are predominately Conservative. You liberals don't have the guts to stand up and fight for something you really don't believe in.
DRed| 9.18.10 @ 12:26AM
Well, comrade, I suggest you pack your bags for Cuba. First, I don't even like Obama that much, so you can stop with the dear leader nonsense. I listed a bunch of things that I think a strongly liberal president would have tried to do. Which ones do you disagree with? Obama gave us a wishy-washy stimulus, a wishy-washy healthcare plan-what's so radical about him?
If Bush and his Rino buddies were so bad, where were when they were running this country into the ground? Oh, that's right-voting for them. Man up and accept some responsibility. What are you, a liberal?
SeattleBruce| 9.18.10 @ 9:19AM
"instituted a single payer national healthcare system"
Great Britain is looking at moving back toward private medicine - Europe is reeling from their socialism - yet you and Barack Obama want to move us toward socialism.
It's not that we're not 'open to arugment' - au contraire - we're just not open to socialism.
Sorry.
DRed| 9.18.10 @ 11:33AM
No, you missed my point. Single payer national healthcare is what a non-moderate liberal would have pushed for. But that's not what Obama did. Am I wrong?
SeattleBruce| 9.18.10 @ 9:09AM
Moderate liberal baloney! Fact- BHO was the MOST liberal Senator period.
TR| 9.18.10 @ 11:21AM
You are correct Bruce. I forgot in his extremely brief senate career he was awarded the most liberal award. Pretty amazing considering his puppet string pullers had him start running for president about a week after being sworn in.
RCV| 9.18.10 @ 12:44PM
Well said. It reminds me of when the John Birch Society used to claim that Eisenhower was a communist. The disconnect with reality is mind boggling.
RCV| 9.18.10 @ 12:45PM
The well said was to DRed.
megapotamus| 9.19.10 @ 8:59AM
There isn't going to be any new American revolution or civil war for the simple reason that there is no one militarily on the other side. This is why Obama's Freedom Corpse or whatever in hell it was called was so problematic but like so much else it proved to be naught but vaporware. That being the case, just who are the militias and minutemen going to fight? Not the US military, do you think our guys are going to, say, herd us into camps for re-Ned-ucation? Will the cops do that? The state Guards? Happily, there is no military presence worthy of your powder and shot. It wouldn't be surprising to see the Leftoids of the Ayers stripe doing some Symbionese Liberation Army claptrap but that will not avail them. If there were bombings here on the scale and frequency of Iraq it would not recruit young men of vigor and honor or even basic physical fitness to their cause. Nope, no Red Dawn here. We are stuck with jaw-jaw rather than war-war and that suits me. Those who want to participate in this particular American Revolution, which is of course a Counter-Revolution, had best keep the Mountain Dew off your keyboards. These are our arms and armor. Our love and respect for our nation and fellow citizens are necessary and sufficient to our purposes. Good thing, too. The prospect of a Parisien style bloodletting, remote as it is, should be addressed only with the greatest seriousness and reticence. I'm no pacifist, believe me you, but relish for war, especially against our own, is frankly disgraceful and I'm sure it was a slip of the brain for the fine people commenting here.
Nunya| 9.20.10 @ 11:52AM
Mega, just to sum this up... NOBODY wants it to come to a confrontation. NOBODY. Especially me.
Unfortunately, we have a Congress that is out of control, followed by a megalomaniac as a President, and they're passing legislation over the cries of the MAJORITY of folks out here in "flyover country" (and everywhere else). Our "representative republic" is not representative of what the people want. If we can't regain control of the idiots in Washington with our votes, we have little choice but to follow Thomas Jefferson's advice--otherwise, we are going to be slaves to the puppet masters in DC.
K. Orengali| 9.21.10 @ 3:46AM
Calm, please. Well armed- yes. Well trained- absolutely. A not so open albeit running dialogue is "what would it take for you to take up arms against your countrymen?" We all have varying degrees of tyranny to light the match (using the Marine's metaphor). However, I have seen three years of combat now and counting. We fight relentlessly abroad so that those at home can exist in bliss and enjoy the latte along with the head nodding to the NYT. Combat is horrible. Combat among ourselves at home would be furious and exponentially more horrible than what occured between 1861 and 1865. The military and the vast majority of armed government agents (I am both) are on the "right" side of this issue. Ruby Ridge and Waco are oft examined and scrutinized among ourselves. Be yourselves always ready, but please- let's for now be the master of the social commentary, a la RCV et al.
scotchieguy| 9.17.10 @ 1:18PM
Speaking of George, by George, a few years back a film about King George III came out. It was supposed to be called "King George III," but the studio declined, thinking it would confuse the masses into thinking it was the third in a sequel (like the Godfather part 3). This must have been 15-20 years ago, but it was then that I realized our days are truly numbered.
NVA Patriot| 9.17.10 @ 7:44AM
Quinn - your essay would be more powerful had you not backed Castle in DE. That's action that determines if you get the point. Unprincipled pregressivism embodied in Castle is NEVER acceptable.
Quin| 9.17.10 @ 10:39AM
As a correction, for the record, I made clear again and again that I did NOT back Castle in Delaware, but that I thought it was a fight that non-Delaware conservatives should stay out of -- for all the reasons I gave. I clearly was not enamored of Ms. O'Donnell, especially because she filed a ridiculous lawsuit against one of the great and true conservative organizations in this country, ISI. But I also specifically and repeatedly said I was not urging support for Castle. I DID, however, note, and I insist, that a 55% friend is better than a 5% friend. That's not an abandonment of principle; it's a practical step to support principle. If Castle had won the nomination, I would have fervently hoped that he wins the general election. I now hope that O'Donnell wins; conservatives may need her vote.
Siegfried X| 9.17.10 @ 11:26AM
"I thought it was a fight that non-Delaware conservatives should stay out of ..."
Would it be fair for out of state conservatives to stay out of it when Castle got 3/4 of his money from non-resident liberal Republicans, including money from the NRSC?
What you are advocating seems to be the same old political pacifism and unilateral disarment which has allowed the RINO leadership to control the party against the will of the majority for so long. Non-Delaware establishment money and support is OK, but conservative money isn't.
R Martin| 9.17.10 @ 3:54PM
One problem with that 55%/5% argument is that history does not always support it. Remember the 2004 Pennsylvania Republican Senate Primary when Pat Toomey opposed Arlen Specter? President Bush and Rick Santorum backed Specter, because they thought Specter was a better bet to retain control of the Senate. Specter did win, but the senate was lost in 2006, and then Specter showed his appreciation for Republican support by switching to the Democrats last year. If the Bush/Santorum strategy was successful, it was only in the short run. Republicans would have been wiser to go with Toomey in '04. That lesson has not been lost on Delaware Conservatives.
NVA Patriot| 9.17.10 @ 3:55PM
Peace on the record, but as a point of order, we outside the beltway are done with process that means conservatives lose. We expect and are demanding results. It is the way our world works in Capitalism when the gov stays out of it.
Your position, which is fine - makes the RESULT THE SAME - more progressiveism COUPLED with tarnishing the Conservative Republican Brand. We're done with that.
We believe that the contests should be straight up - consevatism vs. socialism. Thanks to Coons being a closet, self proclaimed Marxist we will now have a straight up decision from our fellow citizens in DE. I expect that they will choose the conservative NOW THAT THERE is a clear, bold, brightly colored difference.
And...if you see anyone from the Weekly standard or NRO let them know that if they spent as much time looking into Coons as they did ODonnell, Odonnnell would be even or ahead in the polls.
We're done with discussions of process that are stacked against conservatives such that liberalism always wins. NOT. AGAIN. EVER.
albert constantine jr.| 9.17.10 @ 8:13AM
Having observed Castle's record up close in Delaware, I'm not sure he is best described as an unprincipled progressive. I think he pandered to the left and "middle" regularly to pad his margins of victory, thinking that the right had no other place to go. While this may be well described as unprincipled, opportunist may be more accurate than progressive.
R Martin| 9.17.10 @ 2:07PM
Unprincipled opportunist may be accurate, but it is vague. Here's what Castle did: he sold-out unreservedly to special interests with his support for the Democrats' Cap and Trade bill. Delaware generates 65% of its electricity from coal. Therefore any carbon tax is going to hit consumers hard. Delaware is also home to a number of major corporations who are not carbon emitters and who would be able to sell their valuable carbon credits under the proposed law. And, of course, there are many large banks headquartered here who will do the trade part of Cap and Trade and benefit accordingly. Those banks and the corporations were big contributors to Castle. He chose their support rather than look out for the interests of his other constitutents. He lost my vote on that issue alone.
logmank| 9.17.10 @ 8:25AM
NVA - Exactly so. Quin Hilyer backs Castle, then uses the victory of O'Donnell to bolster his thesis on the power of the conservative message. What's wrong with that picture?
I don't appreciate someone supporting a Republican progressive, in violation of the very conservative principles he purports to champion, then patting himself on the back for his consistency.
Quin| 9.17.10 @ 10:40AM
Please see my note above. I did NOT "back" Castle. And I defy ANYBODY to show me any statement in the record that shows I did. And no -- not some extrapolation from some sentences of mine taken out of context, but an actual statement, in context. I never did so.
Mel Torme| 9.17.10 @ 11:10AM
Well, Quin, it depends on what context the statement below (taken from your reply above) was in. I admit, I may have missed your previous writing about the Deleware R-primary.
"I DID, however, note, and I insist, that a 55% friend is better than a 5% friend."
That's all fine, if it so happened that Castle won that primary. It is very reasonable, given that voting for the libertarian or constitution party guy (which I STILL would) is such a long shot.
If you said the above statement (or thereabouts) to explain why you would vote for Castle in the PRIMARY, then you are now in a contradiction (this article today). What I mean is, many people did insist that we should support the 55% guy in the primary, as then the chance of winning of the D would be higher. That is something I would argue strongly about, and your article today would back me up. Vote for your principles, and don't waver, as most of the (real) Americans believe in these same principles and will vote that way in the general election.
So, you should clarify to some of these posters who say you are contradicting your previous views - were you saying that people should have voted for Castle in the primary, or just saying that conservatives should back the winner of this primary in the general election? (I don't agree even with the 2nd, but that has been debated by American Spectator commenters earlier this week(?) with some really great points, especially re my view ;-)
Quin| 9.17.10 @ 1:34PM
Why is this do difficult to understand? I did not recommend that anybody vote in ANY particular way; I recommended that outside conservatives not make this battle a cause celebre, while specifically wrote that "I have no brief for Mike Castle."
Anthony| 9.17.10 @ 3:23PM
Wow Quin, It appears you are doing some mighty fast and fancy disembling here.
" I have no brief for Mike Castle"
vs.
"A 55% friend is better than a 5% friend"
" I thought it was a fight non Deleware conservatives should stay out of"'
vs.
" I was not enamoured with O'Donnell because she filed a law suit against a great and true conservative organization".
I think Mel Torme has deconstructed your nuianced denials and has found them wanting, as did I.
Mel Torme| 9.17.10 @ 9:57PM
Nuance is in this year, and so are denials. Next year, it's gonna be gold, guns, and Revelations.
RCV| 9.17.10 @ 11:32PM
Quin - don't waste your time trying to explain yourself to the conspiracy fantasists attacking you. They are exactly like the French revolutionaries and will continue to turn on each other for lack of "purity" until there's no one left.
Tim*| 9.18.10 @ 2:00PM
The King's Fop consults Quin.
Curly Smith| 9.17.10 @ 8:27AM
If "Conservative Principles Win" then shouldn't we conclude from "Compassionate Conservatism" and "Big Tentism" that either the GOP doesn't want to win or that it doesn't want to advance Conservative Principles?
We can, and should, blame Karl Rove for a lot of the Bush failures but Rove wasn't doing anything that the leadership of the GOP didn't want to have happen. They're the ones who loudly proclaimed in 2008 that "the era of Reagan is over". It's over because they killed it.
The blueprint for winning elections and holding majorities until the end of time is clear... and it's hermetically sealed in a lead-line vault guarded 24/7 by pork-addicted GOP operatives. The blueprint is a stake in the heart of the freedom-sucking State.
Siegfried X| 9.17.10 @ 9:31AM
Exactly. The message comes through, loud and clear, that the Republican leadership thinks conservatism is a loser in most of the country. They think conservatism is dying, and the sooner we move away from it the better off we are. (Which is what conservative countries are doing in Europe -- making themselves "left-wing light" parties).
It is obvious that they don't want conservative victories on the issues, because by selecting and supporting RINO candidates they are GUARANTEEING that eventually the left will win. It's like the votes on homosexual rights and immigrant amnesty next week -- if enough RINOs combine with the Democrats to give 60 senate votes, then the Democrats will have won. They will have passed their laws. The fact that Snowe, Collins, etc. have (R) after their names won't stop them from voting for amnesty.
Ned the Red| 9.17.10 @ 10:10AM
"The data say that when people sell out their principles, they lose power."
The Democrats got their power back in 2006 because they followed their principles and went left. I remember a “National Review” cover showing the Democrat Party, represented by a car, driving on a road with steep cliffs to the left. The car was heading left indicating a wreck.
Well they didn't wreck. Their drift left motivated their base, which took advantage of several Republican gifts, McCain, scandals, and of course the ever present Republican fear of the Media, and won big time in 2006 and 08.
Now the Republican Party is turning right. Sure it is requiring a little help in the form of having tea dumped down the leadership’s nostrils while they are strapped to a board, but they are going right.
Now everyone believes (with the possible exception of President Clinton) the Democrats governing far to the left is the cause of their probable demise. Going left got them elected, but governing left is getting them booted, as it did in 1994.
The question I ask, if going right gets the Republicans elected will governing right get them booted? Will they try to move to the center once in office? You know the old reach across the aisle bit.
The difference is most of the country is conservative and not liberal. So rather than suffering the Democrats fate, the Republicans will succeed if they stick to their principles and govern as such. They will fail if they pull the same old crap and go to the center. Hopefully their newly acquired fear of being “T-boarded” will be stronger than their fear of the Media.
scotchieguy| 9.17.10 @ 1:31PM
Excellent post. "The difference is most of the country is conservative not liberal." True, but the MSM will more than counter that advantage. That is the real problem. I see them governing in the middle, and having the dems regroup and back in power in no time. A vicious cycle.
Ned the Red| 9.18.10 @ 7:15AM
"True, but the MSM will more than counter that advantage."
I remember the 80's and all the sitcoms trashing Republicans (aimed at Reagan). Remember all the specials on HBO to help the homeless (I doubt Billy and Whoopi are gearing up for new ones now). In 94 I don't think Bill Moyers could have sounded more forlorn if we had been hit with a nuclear strike when lamenting the Republican takeover of the House.
I am hoping with talk radio, the internet, Fox News, and the Tea Party showing the ability to put RINO’s out of a job will help this time around.
megapotamus| 9.19.10 @ 9:09AM
The real difference is that what we know today as "Conservatism" is only good sense, at least fiscally while "Liberalism" is fantasy unconcerned with history, economics, decency or current performance. The transient popularity of this or that does not alter that. Understanding this to be the case, having those musty old "convictions" is really the secret to enduring the current foolishness with good nature. Look at it this way, if you see your kids out in the back yard making a cruiseliner out of pop bottles and duct tape, you may have several rational concerns. That you will be telephoned to come pick them up in Portugal is not one of them.
Oldefarte| 9.17.10 @ 11:19AM
I can't remember the exact words, but as the old saying goes, IT IS BETTER TO HAVE TRIED AND LOST, THAN NEVER TO HAVE TRIED AT ALL! Or if you prefer, IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED, THEN TRY, TRY AGAIN! Or finally, as Barry Goldwater Sr so correctly stated, EXTREMISM IN THE DEFENSE OF LIBERTY IS NO VICE! I'm elated and so encouraged by Rush Limbaugh's radio requests of his listeners to contribute to the political campaign of Christine O'Donnell against Coons; of Mitt Romney's big time endorsement of her candidacy; and of the brave, courageous tea partiers expending of their time/money to rally in opposition to this dictatorial expansion of government. It/they are a beautiful thing, and.........THE TIMES THEY BE A CHANGIN'!!!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 9.17.10 @ 11:21AM
PS, no doubt due to Limbaugh and Romney, it's now being reported that O'Donnell's campaign has recieved nearly $1 million in donations, so she can now afford to take the the fight to Coons in Delaware!!!!
TR| 9.17.10 @ 2:43PM
Amen, oldefarte.
Are you my dad? I have heard him say almost the same things since I was a youngfart.
RacerJim| 9.18.10 @ 10:13AM
Here's another oldfart saying for youngfarts to heed..."BETTER DEAD THAN RED!"
Oldefarte| 9.18.10 @ 10:46AM
TR, No doubt your father and I grew up with similar life/political experiences of the Kennedys, Huntley & Brinkley, Cronkite, Camelot, Johnson, the Vietnam War, race riots, the Great Society, the hippie culture/EASY RIDER culture; and had to reguritate all of the above in order to survive. The current liberal/Harvard, radical-extremist movement is a REGURITATION [so to speak] of that era, but IMO, their very last shot at relevance [since I believe this current tea party/conservative rebellion will once and for all put an end to it [or I truly hope so]!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TR| 9.18.10 @ 11:38AM
Yes, oldefarte, my dad was born in th early stages of the 1st Great Depression, and my formative years in the 60s were spent watching Huntley Brinkley, Cronkite. We lived in the San Fernando Valley in So Cal when the Watts riots occurred (he bought his first handgun then).
I pray that this vomit that is our president will serve as an example to cause the complete rejection of all of the dangerous and foolish radicals of that era. This marxist president's protest that he was only a child when his mentor Ayers was terrorizing America doesn't wash with me, he follows their radical agenda today.
I attended the tea party in Pinky Reid's hometown earlier this year, and the true passion displayed to save our Republic gives me hope. And BTW, the only violence I saw was the counter protesters (all 10 of them) in Searchlight that threw eggs at the Tea Party Express motorcoach that Sarah Palin was riding in as it passed through the town. It was ignored by the so-called MSM, but I witnessed it. We must motivate those who, like us, are the true Constitutional patriots, to GET OUT THE VOTE and send these morons scurrying. They are cockroaches , and all it takes is light to send them running.
Oldefarte| 9.17.10 @ 11:26AM
PSII: I failed to note that every blogger/reader here needs to realize the extreme GUTS/COURAGE exhibited by Quin Hillyer and the staff at TAS [and other publications] to go out on the literary limb to expose the political truth, and they all should be commended and thanked for same [if you doubt/question this, then you should read BIAS by Bernard Goldberg as proof]!!!!
Siegfried X| 9.17.10 @ 11:50AM
I agree with you. The conservative media is finally opening up, compared to the tight censorship when McCain was running for the nomination.
TR| 9.17.10 @ 2:46PM
Yes. Thank you, Quin for your willingness to bravely state what needs to be said.
I have read Bias by Mr. Goldberg. Another brave man who put his future in his field on the line for speaking the truth.
Both of them and many other in this vein are true patriots.
JFC | 9.17.10 @ 11:49AM
The OBAMA Crisis is a Terrible Thing to Waste
“A crisis is a terrible thing to waste”.
It seems to me that the insurgent leaders of the Republicans, from extant top dogs like McConnell and Boehner, down to and most vitally including, emerging superstars like Rubio, should make the following perfect proof argument a key part of their red meat talking points---say:
“I agree that a crisis is a terrible thing to waste, as the Obama administration told us all, before going on to do so many horrible things. Indeed, the absolute truth is that the very Obama administration, and its partners in crisis crime, ARE the crisis!
And, we should not waste this once in a generation chance!
So, in November we must exploit the hell out of it, and blast away the people who are causing America to commit economic and political suicide.
Out, with their damned "SPOT!”
Another takeoff from this sure-to-be-included-in-the-book-of-famous-quotes gift from Rahm Emanuel is--- “Let’s get wasted.”
You see, the Obama plus cohort can be characterized many ways, but at their core they are unrepentant hippies, defined by taking mind-altering drugs. And, the first choice of such people is marijuana, the consumption of which is purposed by the desire to “get wasted”.
Yes, think of Obama, and now his unhappy wife, also, as people who are suffering from the crisis THEY have unconsciously created, and in so much psychological pain that getting loaded seems to be the only way to get Absolute relief.
I speak from unfortunate experience!
Entropy is always beaconing, while we humans are busy creating and maintaining as much order as we can tolerate, so getting wasted is just one of the ways to dip into that seemingly ecstatic experience of nothingness. Oh, the pressure is just too great!
Also, “Crisis = opportunity.”
It is unnecessary to say more, right? Remember, there are around 300,000,000 humans in still-free America, so the few hundred of us who are willing to get into the ring of political fire and exploit the Obama crisis represent many millions of others who could do so.
Finally, picture that old ad, “A mind is a terrible thing to waste.”, which, if I recall correctly, was aimed at black Americans, who were failing to apply themselves to “book learning”, and thus wasting their “minds”. Of course, this problem persists, and I think is even worse.
So, “Mind” up, cowboys!
Surprise, surprise!
Another way that hubris seems to be blowing in the wind, a la Bob Dylan---and Peter, Paul and Mary!---is also thanks to the unwitting Marxist fool, Obama and his minions.
I’ll betcha the phrase, “It’s a teachable moment” has just begun its run as a used label to apply to---most anything. So, just as wasting the crisis that is Obama is a terrible thing, so is it stupid to ignore the teaching moment that he and his far left idiots ARE.
NOW—Karl Rove, and even Mark Levin, are exhibiting all-too-human behavior, and they need to wake up. As we taught students about to take the SAT’s, when facing multiple possible answers to a question, be very wary of those that use the words “always” and “never”.
So, when Rove said O’Donnell could NEVER win in Delaware, oops! Of course, there is ALWAYS the constant true ongoing opportunity = crisis of the NOW point of space-time, at which to use NEVER:
You are NEVER in danger of knowing a single thing!
A being, from the human on down to the amoeba, and even if a quark can be considered “a” being, NEVER knows the future!
And, that’s the truth—blech!!!
Anthony| 9.17.10 @ 3:40PM
JFC, Just a small point here, but what have I missed with Mark Levin? He has been a staunch supporter of O'Donnell, he came out early and put it all on the line.
Frankly, I was somewhat sickened when Limbaugh, on the following day, appeared to take full credit for O'Donnell, when he stood quietly on the sidelines.
Peter McGrath - Specifics?| 9.17.10 @ 12:04PM
Mr Lord's generalities are well taken but oft-repeated, and preached to the choir, here.
For 8 years, the prior Republican president mouthed the same platitudes while a Republican-dominated legislature dramatically expanded entitlements, from prescription drugs to "No Child (ahem) Left Behind" - not to mention corrupt deals involving farm-state ethanol, "Big Sugar", and earmarks.
The voting public, I'm sure, would appreciate some specifics as to how platitudes like "smaller governmennt" and "lower taxes" would actually be implemented as national policy.
Conservatives, even Tea Party conservatives, in order to obtain a mandate, MUST enunciate specific policy prescriptions to advance the cause of a smaller, less intrusive Federal government. How is the size of government to be reduced? In what ways will its tentacles be severed?
I'm all ears. I want to know what a Republican-majority in the House intends to do, and not do. Simple opposition to the Imbecile-in-Chief is a good start, but will not suffice for purposes of establishing a mandate. Even with a veto-threat hovering, Republicans must develop - and quick - a platform of goals to pitch to the fence-sitters.
DRed| 9.17.10 @ 3:59PM
Good luck with that. Hope you have a comfortable place to wait.
Giovanelo| 9.17.10 @ 1:48PM
Quin is trying to ignore the obvious:
"Would it be fair for out of state conservatives to stay out of it when Castle got 3/4 of his money from non-resident liberal Republicans, including money from the NRSC?
What you are advocating seems to be the same old political pacifism and unilateral disarment which has allowed the RINO leadership to control the party against the will of the majority for so long. Non-Delaware establishment money and support is OK, but conservative money isn't."
Seek| 9.17.10 @ 2:49PM
Roanld Reagan liked to say, "My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy." Mike Castle might not have been a "pure" conservative, but he was still one of us and more than electable. Thanks to the Red State Uber Alles/Tea Party types, we've got Christine O'Donnell, a smarmy and inexperienced Christian fundamentalist, representing the GOP.
Before any of posters on this site excoriate me for my latent RINO tendencies, keep in mind O'Donnell is every bit the feminist as anyone on the Left. A number of years ago she filed a bullshit lawsuit of nearly $7 million against the Intercollegiate Studies Institute in Wilmington, Del., one of the oldest and most respected of all conservative think tanks, alleging "sexism" was involved in her demotion. She eventually dropped the action for want of funds, but it didn't speak well of her.
Never trust a radical feminist, even one on the Right. That goes as well for Sarah Palin, our own Evita. Can't stand either woman.
Anthony| 9.17.10 @ 3:34PM
Well Seek, I wasn't going to excoriate you for your latent RINO tendencies, but I do find your misogynist rant that O'Donnell and Palin are "radical feminists" to be quite revealing.
You "can't stand either woman"?? God knows what we'll really find if we scratch the surface of those two comments.
UpChuck.Liberals| 9.17.10 @ 11:57PM
I'd guess an Islamist. Or he has a serious issue with real women. Much the same thing.
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 2:30AM
Radical feminist? What in the hell does that have to do with a lawsuit on sexism?
If you worked for a female boss and were being paid less than your female counterparts, would suing make you a "radical male chauvinist?" Hardly. I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
And what does inexperience or "Christian fundamentalism" have to do with anything? I can't find those litmus tests in the Constitution. Can you?
Personally, I'd rather support someone that sticks to their values, and doesn't sell out to the highest bidder, as opposed to someone that simply has an "R" in front of their name. I sleep better at night as a result.
I will no longer hold my nose and compromise myself just to get RINO "Republicans" like Dole, Bush & Bush, McCain et al elected. I'd rather sit on my ass on election day and let a Democrat get elected, which is the same as voting for a RINO.
The letter in front of the name is irrelevant. Screw their "electability." What good is their electability if they're voted in and then constantly vote against your values?
WayneH| 9.18.10 @ 12:28AM
Good post kj. I often find myself wondering why none of the GOP leaders or their strategists have made any attempt to counter Obummer's ridiculous analogy. It almost seems like the GOP is accepting the argument that they ran the economy into the ditch. If they could successfully counter that argument, I think a much larger portion of the "independents" might swing to the GOP in 2010 - and we certainly need them.
Petronius| 9.18.10 @ 10:24AM
Yeah kj
Ross Perot was going to get under the hood and fix it. Mechanics? People get into government so they don't have to do anything for a paycheck. They are the service managers who tell you that the first appointment to get your broken down vehicle looked at will be 3 weeks from tomorrow.
And as to padding the bill, can you say porkulus?
The car dealership service dept. isn't a bad analogy. The top Government Motors union shops here have a base rate labor charge of $82 an hour. But customer or taxpayer, we're nothing to them but objects of contempt.
rdman| 9.17.10 @ 5:13PM
The Hapless, Insecure Establishment Republicans
With very few exceptions, the career republican fears if they act too aggressively, they may jeopardize their pursuit to be part of the Washington DC Ruling Elitist Clique and will suffer some sort punishment as a result. As a result, they become prey to intense anxiety, seeking reassurances that, no matter what they have done in the past, their pursuit to be accepted by the DC Ruling Elitist Clique is still a possibility, revealing a frightened, insecure, spineless person beneath the facade of the tough authoritarian.
Career republicans who exhibited blustering toughness during election cycles, even projecting that they no longer need to be accepted by the DC Ruling Elitists, once elected and seated now shift abruptly. Almost tearful and obsequious, they become frustrated and disgusted with themselves for not being tough enough to stand on their own two feet to defend themselves, to be independent, to stand on their principles. They feel cowardly because they have not had the spine to sustain their blustering toughness.
Career republicans become ineffective because their self-disparagement and insecurity which creates intense feelings of inferiority and worthlessness. Their indecision and evasiveness has now deteriorated into massive insecurity and anxiety, convincing them that they are incompetent and unable to do anything effective on their own. They can only marginally function with the hope of being accepted by the Ruling Elitist Clique by “morbid clinging” dependency.
The longer career republicans remain seated, the more worthless they become, whining and complaining and disparaging themselves to the extent that they weaken whatever remaining influence they have, becoming an emotional drain on their constituents and everyone else around them. Their despondency has the uncanny ability to induce their anxieties and negativity into others, virtually forcing their constituents to make other choices in their voting booths.
Good-bye and good riddance, Establishment Repubs.
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 2:54AM
God bless you, sir.
The average establishment republican, these days, looks more like Sally Fields wondering if the establishment "really, really, likes them." Pathetic.
If they can't show leadership, can't stick to conservative values (few have in the past 20 years), and can't legislate without wondering how the self proclaimed, so-called, "cool kids" think, then they deserve to lose.
If Republicans can't learn from Reagan's landslide victories, then let them keep their balls in their spouse's purses, where they belong.
rdman| 9.17.10 @ 5:17PM
The Exploitative, Opportunist Establishment Democrats
The darlings of the Washington DC Ruling Elitist Clique and their fawning so-called Main Stream Media (MSM), failure is one of the most humiliating prospects for democrats. When they overextend themselves and cannot make good on their claims, and to protect their status with the DC Ruling Elitist Clique and the MSM, they will resort to exploitation to maintain their self-inflated esteem.
As democrats see it, exploitation is necessary to continue to project a superior self-image. Ironically, they believe they are superior not only to everyone else, but also to themselves by exceeding the limits of their talents, thus they must take what they need from others to maintain their superiority.
Their fear of failure makes democrats more than willing to be dishonest to get what they need to maintain at least the illusion of superiority. They are pragmatists and have no principles other than what works for them… the consequences: they lie about their policies, take credit for the work of others, or plagiarize to make themselves seem more outstanding than they are. Democrats are determined not to be losers, no matter who must pay the price for their corruption.
They are ready to sell out, lie, betray their loyalties and take advantage of others to come out on top. Because they have never developed a conscience, they do not feel guilty about exploiting others. In colloquial terms, democrats are hustlers, people "on the make," opportunists taking advantage of situations and crisis’… always to the detriment of others. Their lack of affect is also particularly valuable now… they can callously use people without the slightest thought for their welfare… "What's in it for me? How can I use this for myself?"
Hapless, insecure republicans, aware of the democrat’s opportunism are usually afraid of confronting them. Democrats count on the fact that others dare not say or do anything about their behavior for fear of retaliation. Their lack of decency makes it difficult for others to defend themselves against democrats because they know that democrats will go lower than they are willing to descend into the gutter.
Exploiting people reveals the contempt in which democrats hold others. Because they do not see other people as real or as having value without reference to themselves, using people is not a moral problem for them… because they have no morals. Others are merely providers of attention and admiration, as objects to be used to aggrandize themselves. This is why there is absolutely nothing reciprocal about a relationship with democrats. They will keep a relationship going as long as they get what they want, but will drop the “useful idiots” under the bus without a second thought, particularly if someone more desirable comes along.
Yet why are citizen voters so often taken advantage of by democrats? The answer lies in the strength of the narcissistic desires democrats awaken in some citizen voters. Voters unwittingly give democrats power over them to the degree that they lack true self-esteem themselves. They mistakenly think that democrats will somehow endow them with what appears to be their limitless self-esteem. This never happens… the sad fact is that democrats would have no power over others if people did not give it to them.
Unfortunately for hapless, anxious, insecure republicans, democrats remain highly functional. Democrats do not become depressed, anxious, emotionally conflicted, incapacitated, or self-destructive. On the contrary, they depress others, make others feel anxious and conflicted, incapacitate others, and drive others to self-destructive acts. It is always others who suffer. Democrats are able to walk away from relationships as if nothing has happened, and as far as they are concerned, nothing has.
Like sharks, they are extraordinarily well adapted to their environment. And like sharks, they injure and kill cold-bloodedly, and keep moving.
However, as long as they keep moving, they keep breathing... viligence is the key!!!
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 3:10AM
Awesome... a "two-fer" in one night!!! If you ever decide to run for office, I volunteer to be a member of your campaign staff.
/RaisesGlass
/Cheers
rdman| 9.18.10 @ 1:21PM
GavInTucson,
Following is a portion of another paper I wrote several years ago that follows the theme of the last two posts:
"The Rise of the Government Class
After decades of progressive incrementalism, the United States Government has finally surfaced to reveal a culture of ungodly and soulless tyrants, thugs and bullies. Cynically disguised as distinguished, articulate, self-appointed elitists, these despotic, vacuous, narcissistic, image-oriented hypocrites emphasize symbols over substance and reality. The pursuit of excellence is being replaced by the celebration of the artificial. Politicians are more concerned with the display of personalities and pursuit of personal power than with principles or the use of power for the common good.
This generation of politicians has become experts at deceitful duplicity, selling their calculated positions to the public to the point that voters can no longer tell the fabricated image from a real person. The voters are so seduced by the slick package that they often do not realize that there is nothing in it… the slick package is the message.
The shallow values and beguiling oratorical skills have become the norms by which everything is measured. The only guideline is the ability to gain attention… what is noticed has value. Calculated images successfully masquerade as reality. Exhibitionism and self-promotion is now acceptable as Government Class factions compete to be the winner… to be famous and celebrated."
In my opinion, the problem We the People have faced is what good patriot of integrity and character would want to expose themselves to the snake pit that is Washington DC.
It is absolutely gratifying that the great silent majority has finally risen giving true constitutional patriots hope and confidence that we can indeed run and WIN, which has exposed the "inside the beltway" establishment class as shallow whiners and cowards. We have come to realize that the real power is with We the People... just as our Founding Fathers intended.
chirs haynes| 9.17.10 @ 6:18PM
Castle supports legal abortion. 42 million, 7 times the holocaust, innocent humans killed with his blessing.
Hey Karl Rove, Krauthammer, Steele. That's not enough to rule him out?
TR| 9.17.10 @ 7:28PM
You are so right.
The person who was going to discover the cure for cancer was an innocent child murdered 30 years ago, but the murderer called it "choice".
GavInTucson| 9.18.10 @ 3:13AM
Thank God Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, and Einstein weren't choices, right?
TR| 9.18.10 @ 2:10PM
Yes, Gav. They were all born in a time where the absolute evil of abortion was recognized plainly. Our 1960s - anything-goes-if-it's-right-for-me mentality that was fed and nourished by the sick-minded leftists has given us "choice". Liberals always use feel-good terms to make their sins more palatable to the ignorant. I truly feel for the impressionable young girls that are snookered by them when they are in a moment of personal crisis. Every woman I have ever met that had an abortion regrets it almost daily and they carry the pain forever.
Etiquette Man| 9.18.10 @ 6:51AM
Wow! This guy's legs are so long, he really CAN be on both sides of the fence at the same time!
You can always count on good ol' Quin to say "I was with you the whole time!" when a conservative beats one of his favored RINO's.
Then we get to experience his fully nuanced "Beltway Shuffle" as he recasts each of his problematic past statements with a mendacity that would make Bubba Clinton blush.
You can expect a column next week about how the Delaware situation raises some "serious concerns" for "longtime conservatives" like himself.
Vote conservative! Vote early (and, if in Chicago, often)!
Screw the RINO's and their Hillyerian water carriers.
MtTopPatriot| 9.18.10 @ 9:03AM
You said it Mr. Hillyer! Everything good and noble about our American way of life stems from this.
wodiej| 9.18.10 @ 9:07AM
Unfortunate that the overwhelming response to this article involves violence, fighting, guns, bloodshed. If we put our faith in God, He will do the rest. We reap what we sow. God expects us to stand up for values and principles but the best way to do that is through example. If you get even that is what you are-even. You are no better than the opposition. Let's lead by example not by imitating the very thing we propose to be fighting against.
aware| 9.18.10 @ 9:38AM
The enemy is and always has been the State. Neo cons would argue that what the State does is the problem. This is wrong. It implicitly accepts a monster and futilely tries to make accommodations with it. The State doesn't care who feeds it as long as it is fed.
The real fault line is the existence of an entity that has unquestioned power over all aspects of our lives. This is becoming more apparent everyday. With all the battles and elections, with all the laws passed and amended or repealed, with all the articles written for or against, and with all the strawmen stood up and knocked down in the past 100 years one fact emerges, the State has now become bigger than ever. It hasn't been pruned in generations.
All support for the State is socialistic and the State is the enforcer of socialism.
For those advocating some sort of armed rebellion one very important aspect of the State should be understood, it seeks and maintains a monopoly of violence. Without this there is no State. Those who support the State in any way support the use of violence, implicitly or explicitly. This is why rebellions rarely succeed.
The real fight should not be for control of the means of exploitation(the State), it is not enough to see the State in a "dormant" phase, as has happened before. It flairs up again every time, more powerful and virulent than ever. This is rightly called the Ratchet Effect.
The State and liberty exist in a finite world where augmenting one diminishes the other. It is impossible to have maximum liberty and the all powerful State at the same time.
In my own opinion, the real battle is not about what the State does or doesn't do, or who is running it, it is about the existence of an entity that can do what ever it wants to whomever it wants through "the law".
The rinos don't understand this and neither do the neo cons, but either you resist the State or you are feeding it. With the Ruling Elite the litmus test to be passed if you want to be "in" is simply acceptance and accommodation to the State, regardless of party.
Tim| 9.18.10 @ 9:41AM
This whole matter reminds me of the Movie Braveheart.
William Wallace tells Robert the Bruce in responce to Robert informing Wallace that the Scottish Nobles were in bed with the English Lords and both conspired against the Poor
Wallace correctly pointed out to Robert the Bruce:
That people don't follow titles they follow courage!
Thus those that display courage and speak truth to power will political destroy the lie driven scum this November. It's just that simple!
Petronius| 9.18.10 @ 10:37AM
Aye
But did Sir William Wallace yell "FREEDOM" as he was disemboweled?
dale wrigley| 9.19.10 @ 12:53AM
"I couldn't have said it better myself:
"conservative principles are specifically principles rooted in the American tradition and the American experience, and they stem from the laws of nature and of nature's God, which means they are right and good and just."
You see, what the liberals can't understand is that we're right, because we're following the laws of God and nature. How can you tell our policies are following the laws of God and Nature? Because they're right. If we were wrong, then we wouldn't be. It's as simple as that.
martin j smith| 9.19.10 @ 11:42AM
Even in very Blue nyc there are many voters who do not buy the Liberal BS. Bloomberg you may have heard is going to help moderate candidates ( that means Democrat Party folks ). In this siutation you are really getting who the RINOS really are--The are Socialist Democrats who are LIARS about their true political leanings. As with Bloomberg,Castle and others you all know they show their true colors when they lose.
Joanna| 6.6.11 @ 6:02AM
I agree with most of these comments too.
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