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What Bibi Is Thinking
So much spin from so many mavens.
So much spin from so many mavens.
They think they know what makes me tick, what will shape my decisions. But they are really trying to tell me what to do. The left-leaning journalistas think Israel’s Holocaust obsession (their crude phrase) will lead the Jewish State to attack Iran. They are joined by American Jews for whom self-defense and Israeli security are more problematic than Palestinian terror.
I know what my opponents told President Obama and his team. That I bend to pressure and will cave to American interests. So they tried to intimidate me and Israel by condemning the construction of a few apartments in a crowded Jewish neighborhood in Jerusalem more viciously then they condemned terror.
I did not waver. To me the President’s statement was not just another example of a belief that “getting tough” with Israel was necessary to win over the Palestinians and Arab states and form a grand alliance to pressure Iran into not going nuclear. Every administration makes this mistake in one way or another. But Obama really believed that Israel needed to be brought down a peg. The American “silence” in the face of the Goldstone report and international criticism of our enforcement of the naval blockade was not just calculated but the product of a worldview in which democracies should defend themselves in terms acceptable to the UN.
All it did was signal to Abu Mazen that Obama could not be counted on to stand up to Iran or stand by us if we had to go to war again against Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran. And in the weird world of Middle East politics, Obama’s words and deeds made Abu Mazen and other Arab states who fear Iran less confident about America. If I were Abbas I would dig my heels in too. Without America willing to stand up to terrorism (what was the deal about trying to sweet talk Syria out of transferring missiles to Hezbollah with promises of an American ambassador to Damascus?) he is weaker, not stronger. And by making settlements an issue the Obama administration made our “partner in peace” more vulnerable to Hamas.
Obama called the murder of four Israelis by Hamas terrorists “a senseless act of violence.” Wrong again. It was a direct result of removing security checkpoints and turning the patrol of the highway where the four were killed to Palestinian security forces. And it’s only the beginning.
Both my friends and enemies take my caution as a sign of weakness. But I’ve already made my decision: I will not let the West determine Israel’s destiny. I told Obama, “We left Lebanon, we got terror. We left Gaza, we got terror. We want to ensure that territory we concede will not be turned into a third Iranian-sponsored terror enclave aimed at the heart of Israel.”
The West will pressure Israel to take down even more security checkpoints, require the massive relocation of entire communities and the partitioning Jerusalem. And it will try again to entrust Israel’s security to hapless international forces.
The only way a Palestinian state would not become a forward base for Iran and threaten Israel is if the West can guarantee that Iran will not have a military nuclear capability. The Palestinians and Arab states have a problem; to them peace is a smaller, weaker Israel limited by world opinion, perpetually indicted for acting in self-defense by the media and international courts. But a smaller, weaker Israel will be unable to prevent Iran, Syria, Hamas and Hezbollah from launching an attack or spreading weapons. That means Arab states would not support meaningful sanctions or military action against Iran to eliminate its nuclear weapons capability. I still don’t know if Obama understands how all this is connected.
No one wants war. But the greatest threats to world security over the past 100 years are focused on exterminating the Jewish people. Days before The Six Day War, then-Prime Minister Levi Eschol told Menachem Begin he worried the risk of casualties and enraging Arabs more were too high. Begin told Eschol: “We are going to war. When an enemy of our people says he intends to destroy us, the first thing we have to do is to believe him. People did not believe Hitler. The Arabs say they want to destroy us and so we must believe them. We must seize the initiative and destroy our enemies first.”
If forced, Israel will do the same today. The people of Israel have lived 3,800 years without American or international approval and it will continue to live for another 3,800. It may be the only way we can.
About the Author
Robert M. Goldberg is vice president of the Center for Medicine in the Public Interest and founder of Hands Off My H ealth, a grass roots health care empowerment network. His is new book, Tabloid Medicine: How the Internet is Being Used To Hijack Medical Science For Fear and Profit, was published last month by Kaplan.
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martin j smith| 9.7.10 @ 6:55AM
For any nation to live under the condition of any countries approval leads to,its own demise. Israel is no exception.
There will be a war. Just because Israel exists. But it will be a world war. Not confined to a little corner of the globe I fear.
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.7.10 @ 7:26AM
Martin,
you are very close to my thoughts. Another thought that occurs to me in the pre-dawn darkness: "Israel must be outrageous to win, and to survive. I think their present PM understands that."
Alan Brooks| 9.7.10 @ 10:11PM
Tell it to all to the Toddards of this world.
Appleby| 9.7.10 @ 7:26AM
The Bible predicts it and the day appears to be coming closer all the time. If Obama were in fact a Christian, or even if he could find his Bible, he might realize this parallel.
Thanks be to God that the Israelis keep up to date.
Alan Brooks| 9.7.10 @ 10:13PM
... that is, O' Tex,
don't merely preach to the choir of AS and NR, and so forth.
Louis Jenkins| 9.7.10 @ 8:22AM
Only the Pretender n Chief can make a big todo over building apartments for Israelis. Bibi has his mind on the survival of his country, and he will do what he has to do. (ie, the recent purchase of fuel for aircraft.) Do not be misled. Israel's silence in the face of Iran's 'bomb' is not cowardice.
james wilson| 9.7.10 @ 8:59AM
Netanyahu foresaw all this twenty-five years ago, and is far ahead of his enemies, or his friends for that matter. Israel will be the stronger for it's detachment from America. As Obama thinks he is putting one over, he is playing into Bibi's plan.
ncatty| 9.7.10 @ 9:24AM
Who is the "we" in the last sentence of the article?
canuckistani| 9.7.10 @ 11:10AM
I wondered that as well.
Israel has had vichy regime after vichy regime for thousands of years. The state of Israel is a recent innovation extorted from semi-bigoted western allies looking to dodge the Jewish "problem" after WW2.
Funnily enough, the fiddling by the west has only exascerbated the Jewish "problem" by equivocating on whether the Jewish state deserves their full support.
I truly believe the Jewishness of Israel has to be downplayed in this debate and the affinity of their system to western values should be the the driving factor. If a Palestinian state agrees to a western constitution, who are we to argue?
Writers here play into the same old biblical fantasies that each stakeholder purports to have as evidence of their "right" to the land.
An evangelical seeking the building and destruction of the 3rd temple as a prelude to the 2nd coming is as whacked and inane as the Jews or Muhammedans claims to the Al Aqsa/Rock/2nd Temple site as divinely mandated.
If the theoretical Jewish claim holds true, then how as Americans do we deny Native Americans their right to lands ill-gotten by our forebears?
Where does it stop?
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 12:44PM
Canuckistani,
That has got to be the most concise retelling of lefty historical revisionism I've seen in a long time.
The reason liberals hate the state of Isreal are two-fold:
First, Jews are the chosen people of God Almighty. Since liberals are modern day vampires, they hate anything that reminds them of God. So, even though the state of Israel has, basically, a democrat socialist government, the left still sides with their enemies.
Second, when Israel chose to ally itself with the U.S.A., the Soviet Union started a propaganda war against the Jewish state that Useful Idiots continue to this day.
The Soviets also, through the KGB, trained radical Moslem Arabs, like Arafat, how to be terrorists in the 60's. Thus, the Reds fought a proxy war against Israel.
By the way, I'm a Roman Catholic. So, I don't believe the building of a third Temple will bring about the Day of Judgement. Christ said that only the Father knows that day, and it will come like a thief in the night.
To which ill-gotten lands are you referring? American Indians and Europeans both violated treaties and land deals over the centuries. Some Indians were beaten by war, but most decided to join the modern world, as it was superior to their stone-age way of living.
Besides, I'm a Native American. I was born in Michigan.
RCV| 9.7.10 @ 3:24PM
I'm a non-Jewish liberal Democrat, and I find Canuckistani's logic as impenetrable as you do. Israel deserves our admiration and unwavering support, and not for any biblical reasons. When the Ottoman Empire was disbanded after WWI, its former territories in the Middle East were divided up by the Great Powers. It was hardly illogical nor unfair to, in addition to creating at least seven new Arab states, to envison setting up a Jewish homeland in Palestine as well. Jews had been in the region for millenia, had been a majority in Jerusalem since the mid 1800s, and had been emigrating steadily to the region and BUYING land there legally from willing Arab sellers. The League of Nations awarded a mandate to Great Britain over Palestine with the express direction that it create a Jewish homeland in conformity to Britain's Balfour Declaration. Consistent with the Mandate's direction that it create this homeland while respecting Arab residents already there, Britain first took 2/3 of the Palestine Mandate and set up Arab Palestine, which it named "TransJordan". Nor was the remaining 1/3 simply given over to a Jewish state: When the British simply washed their hands of their commitment, The UN divided the remaining 1/3 of Palestine into yet another Arab state as well as a Jewish state. Had the Arabs respected this entirely reasonable further compromise, we wouldn't be where we are today. Instead, they attacked Israel and Jordan annexed most of the land set aside for the new Arab Palestine, declaring quite reasonably that IT was Arab Palestine. The rest is history.
Israel has made many mistakes along the way. It's not perfect. But it is a beacon of democracy and progress and prosperity. It deserves to live and it deserves our support in its efforts to do so.
canuckistani| 9.7.10 @ 3:44PM
I have no animosity towards Israel as a free democratic state, but given the consumption of our time and efforts there, do we not deserve to have at least some of our demands agreed to?
Everyone keeps letting the Palestinians off the hook for being a irresponsible faction. They are the underclass of the ME, NOBODY wants to deal with them within the Arab community and they are the useful idiots of Riyadh and Tehran in every context.
If they want consideration, the UN should give them a state - just as Israel was created - and force them to play by the rules of international law. You lob grenades and kill our people, that is war and we will defend ourselves, straight up. Lebanon has learned this lesson, Egypt has been neutered as has the fraud Hitite state of Jordan.
Respecting the holy sites of other religions and stopping construction on disputed land lays the Palestinians grudges bare for all the world to see.
But my fear is that Israel figures it is a complete waste of time and existentially bad to consider. It is sad and the US should be cognizant of this fact when acquiescing in future.
RCV| 9.7.10 @ 4:37PM
The UN DID "give them a state, just as Israel was created." They rejected it because they wanted the Israeli state, too. Until Israel acquired the West Bank from Jordan as a result of the '67 war, the Palestinian Arabs adamantly denied that there was such a separate nationality, that all Arabs were Arabs, and that Jordan was Arab Palestine. Only when Israel captured the West Bank from Jordan did Jordan and the other Arab states, as well as the Palestinian Arab leadership discover Palestinian nationhood separate from Pan-Arabism.
And Nick, here's a summary of my understanding of Moslem-Jewish-Christian relations in Palestine: Jews were mistreated whether Christians or Muslims were ruling. (Indeed, a strong case can be made that they were better treated under Muslim - or at least Ottoman - rule than under Christian rule.) But as with all Muslim states, the treatment of Jews and Christians was as second-class citizens, and from time to time, there was the usual pogrom. The Jewish character of the Israeli state is absolutely essential, for we have seen what happens to Jews in other middle eastern states. They were mostly all expelled after Israel was formed in '48, their property confiscated. The Muslim character of all other Middle Eastern states -- with the exception of Lebanon, which has a strictly controlled Maronite Christian/Muslim balance -- is well established. Only Israel should be secular? Freedom of religion is more secure in Israel than anywhere else in the region.
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 3:55PM
Well stated, RCV.
For a liberal. Ha-ha!
RCV| 9.7.10 @ 4:24PM
Thanks (I think), Nick.
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 4:42PM
RCV,
Your welcome.
That was a compliment, and a little joke.
You explained exactly how Britain and France messed up the Middle East after the Great War. Which Canuckistani elluded to in his/her? original comment.
I would only argue about one point. Israel has stopped settlement building in the past, and evicted settlers from Gaza, only to have rockets fired at suburbs. Hamas and Hezzbola aren't interested in peace. And they are being supplied by Iran and Syria.
The security fence and the blockade seem to be working wonders, though.
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 5:27PM
Oops! That should be: Which Canuckistani ALLUDED to in his/her? original comment.
RCV| 9.7.10 @ 6:19PM
It has worked wonders, indeed. As to settlements, there is in my view a big difference between building additional units in existing Jewish settlements in and around Jerusalem -- which Israel is never going to, and never should even consider, giving up -- and building new or additional settlements in non-contiguous areas of the West Bank. The latter is only asking for problems later. The West Bank long-term cannot remain as part of Israel for the simple reason that the demographics dictate that Israel must either repudiate its commitment to democracy or to the Jewish nature of its state. If the clock could be turned back, both the conservative and liberal Israelis I know wish that Israel had returned most of the West Bank back to Jordan in 1967, as the lesser of many evils. (Egypt wouldn't have taken Gaza back for all the money in the world - they're not that dumb.) But time can't be turned back. Eventually, some Arab entity will be formed in most of the West Bank. The only question is whether and when Israel feels secure enough to turn it over to the people who are then in charge. That's theirs to judge, and I fully appreciate the apprehension given the history you cite.
Be well, sir.
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 11:08PM
Right back at 'cha, RCV.
canuckistani| 9.7.10 @ 3:24PM
I am sorry to bait you into this, but I was hoping to take religion out of US policy.
What does it matter if Israel is Jewish from the US POV? It shouldn't, but it does, and it has tainted our every move since the zionists began clamoring for a homestate there in the mid thirties. As a Catholic, you should also know the Church has be hostile to a Jewish state for millenia, and abandoned Jerusalem as nothing more than the quaint necropolis of our risen King. The Spirit is elsewhere to be found and our continuing denial of the Truth about Israel is disappointing. Evangelicals should be focused on limiting Jewishness of the region and emancipating the people from false ideologies, the US government, on the other hand, needs to set a timetable for our involvement in the region. If they are indeed the "chosen people", as they say they are, then God will intervene on their behalfs - if He is indeed taking sides in this very human folly.
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 4:23PM
Canuckistani,
If you think you can take the religiosity out of the Jewish and Arab claims, you are living in fantasyland.
The modern day Zionist movement began in the 19th century, by the way.
When the Holy Land was ruled by Christians, Jews lived freely, so there was no need for a Jewish state. I don't know enough about Moslem treatment of Jews for the past millenia to comment.
The canard that conservative evangelicals only support Israel because they want to bring about the Apocalypse, as foretold in the book of Revelations, is a lefty invention. Some may believe this, and that is their prerogative, but, it is not driving U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.
And, if you look closely at the '67 and '73 wars, you can see the involvement of Divine intervention. On paper, Israel should have been overrun by the Arabs during both conflicts.
canuckistani| 9.7.10 @ 4:40PM
If the Jews and Muslims can't, then we must.
The Jewish lobby here has far too much influence on US policy, and with the Reds out of the mix, Israel presents a near-zero strategic benefit to us. Don't forget. our hegemony extends to Egypt and Saudi - the two anchors in Sunni Islam, the former we buy off with cold cash, the latter we buy off with tacit security agreements and a "hands-off" posture on internal affairs. The real "man behind the curtain" is Tehran, always has been. The Sunnis are viscerally shaken by the prospect of Shi'a power plays in the region. Bahrain - completely under-reported here- is taking serious steps towards a showdown with Tehran.
It could be a unifying factor if the US can crowbar an agreement in the next few years from Isr and the PA and move its attention there.
The Tehran fact is a far more interesting strategic discussion than this constant meandering on Israel and its mythological raison d'etre.
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 5:04PM
Canuckistani,
I can agree with much of this.
Israel might not be as much of strategic benefit as it was in the Cold War. But, tactically she has been a great help with the war on terrorists, intelligence wise.
Also, I'm all for fomenting a Sunni/Shia cold war to keep the region in check. Though, if it were to go hot, there's no telling where it might lead. Especially with Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan, and Uzbekistan no longer under the Soviet boot.
I just don't see the U.S. being able to broker a deal. As President Bush said 10 years ago, both sides will have to figure this out themselves. No outsider can come in and dictate a solution.
canuckistani| 9.7.10 @ 5:25PM
It is complicated, but it is a far more relevant sphere to be meddling in than Israel.
I am afraid we are stuck in the ME as these other events unfold without our involvement. I prefer to attempt to control the beast rather than relying on others to do so. The GCC is pressing western countries to expel Shia activists. Big stuff.
China's toying in Africa and the arctic is likely the next generation's albatross......
Israel/Palestine must be knocked down the priority list in my view.
William R| 9.8.10 @ 8:41AM
Ahh Nick, Israel started the 67 war when it launched a surprise attack on Egypt.
Tim*| 9.7.10 @ 10:16PM
" Supersessionism is not the name of any official Catholic doctrine and the word appears in no Church documents; however, the Catholic Church does officially teach that the Mosaic covenant was fulfilled and replaced by the New Covenant in Christ.
While acting as prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Pope Benedict XVI wrote: “God, according to the Prophet, will replace the broken Sinai covenant with a New Covenant that cannot be broken . . . . The conditional covenant, which depended on man’s faithful observance of the Law, is replaced by the unconditional covenant in which God binds himself irrevocably.”
TURK| 9.7.10 @ 11:55AM
nc---If you truly don't know of whom the we might be---you are elsewhere from Judeo-Christianity.
That the left/west hating Hussein administration, is sympathetic with the arab/islam fanatics has been proven over and over. But a question:where do American Jews stand in all of this? Are they STILL leftist loving democrats?
ncatty| 9.7.10 @ 4:51PM
From Mr. Goldberg's credentials I assumed he was a US citizen. That may have been a wrong assumption.
Travis| 9.7.10 @ 11:55AM
God never gave Native Americans the land we call America. On the other hand, God himself promised Abraham and his descendants - the Jews - the land they now live on called Israel. Crack open a Bible and discover what you apparently don't already know, or understand. "And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32
JimH| 9.7.10 @ 1:25PM
Of course considering who wrote the books of the Old Testament we only have their word for it. As much as I can respect a person's beliefs, I wish they would present an opinion supported by facts rather then a faith that may not be shared by all here.
ShortNSweet| 9.7.10 @ 3:49PM
It's truly a shame that EVERYONE doesn't share in believing "The Truth", and the Life....It is fact. Not believing doesn't exempt anyone from it either.
canuckistani| 9.7.10 @ 5:28PM
The Bible I read, mainly the NT, speaks of a savior that pushed for his disciples to leave Israel and spread the Word. Israel has never been a Christian focus. It is intellectually dishonest to align American interests with Israel because of religion.
Margie| 9.8.10 @ 10:19AM
The gospel of Jesus Christ is to the Jew first.
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel: it is the power of God for salvation to every one who has faith, to the Jew first and also to the Greek" Rms. 1:16.
If it weren't for the Jews unbelief we would not have the opportunity to be grafted in.
"For if you have been cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree. Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, and so all Israel will be saved; as it is written, "The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob".." Rms. 11:27.
The disciples preached to the Jews first and then to the rest of the world. And their preaching continues today through Christians. There are millions of Jewish believing Christians all over the world and to me they are particularly special as it's a fulfilling of what God has intended and such a joy to behold. I know many Jewish brethren personally.
As for the phony argument that you nonnies are always proclaiming, yours is just that. In truth it is an HONEST intellectual and a righteous decision for America to back Israel because they are a free country, and an ally. One of our best!
Rom 11:27 "and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins."
ABNCP| 9.7.10 @ 12:54PM
Let's see. Almost all the nations of the world, most radio and T.V. stations, the big bad U.N., and most academic institutions agree. Israel should not be allowed to exist and of course the United States is as big a villian because it supports this society of evil.
But wait, Isreal is the only liberal democracy in the area. All of it's citizens (including its Muslims) enjoy a free press, an independent judical system,
they for sure don't have to worry about getting stoned to death (including the Muslins) and they do not get paid for blowing themselves and others up in Muslim countries.
What is going on here? Why all the hate for this small country, the only one in this cess pool of extremists governments that allows all of its citizens the freedoms everyone, at least in this country, should value. And please folks do not forget Isreal is constantly on a war footing. The attacks by its neighbors have never really stopped. Their desire for Isreals destruction is still proclaimed daily in their newspapers, schools and Mosques. Our present administration still has not connected the dots. Its pandering to world opinion in this critical area has only made us look weak and unreliable.
John II| 9.7.10 @ 4:42PM
Besides which, none of us can possibly know or find out what the so-called Palestinians really think. If a Jew in Israel doesn't care for the current policies of his country, he can speak out and join the like-minded to push for political change. If a Palestinian doesn't care for the current policies of whatever ad hoc thugs are in charge, he'd damn well better keep his mouth shut.
There are two things that speak to the essential fascism of the American left: (1) their hatred for Israel, and (2) their fondness for the Internal Revenue Service.
Res ipsa loquitur. End of argument.
William R| 9.7.10 @ 12:55PM
I'm afraid the long term prospects for Israel are not very good and IMO it's the fault of cowardly American politicians. Every President since Nixon has asked Israel not to build on the West Bank and Israel sticks its finger in our eye. Now with 300 thousand settlers on the West Bank the two state solution is almost impossible. It took 50 thousand soldiers to remove 8 thousand settlers from Gaza. Trying to remove settlers from the West Bank will start a civil war. Thus it looks like Israel will become an Apartheid state. They will be a minority ruling over the majority. When this happens the world will start screaming for one person one vote. The single state solution.
The United States should have gotten really tough on Israel thirty years ago. Stop the settlements or we'll cut off all aid.
ABNCP| 9.7.10 @ 2:28PM
I guess that Israel could have prevented the problem of becoming an apartheid state. They could have massacred all the Muslims on the West Bank or drove them all out. After all that's what the Muslim states in the area did to the Jews.
As for a single state solution, that means the destruction of the State of Israel and slaughter of the Jewish people. If anyone does not understand that, they don't have the brains that God gave an earthworm. The only reason the Mid-East is not complety Radical Islamist is because of Israel. Get real, we need them almost as much as they need us.
William R| 9.7.10 @ 2:46PM
Ethnic cleansing would mean the end of Israel.
Michael| 9.7.10 @ 2:32PM
It's good to know there's a country not willing to roll over and play dead when the UN or world opinion tells them to. Bibi For President!
ABNCP| 9.7.10 @ 2:57PM
Wiliam R says ethnic cleansing would mean the end of Israel. WOW, William is wasn't or isn't Israel who is doing or has done the ethnic cleansing. It is your boys in the Arabic nations who have and will do it again if they have the chance.
William R| 9.7.10 @ 3:56PM
My boys in Arabic nations?? Hilarious. Of course Jews have participated in ethnic cleansing.
http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/h123002.html
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 4:29PM
William R.,
Antiwar.com ? Ha-ha-ha-ha!
Why not quote from al Jazeera? Or, the Hamas Free Press? Or, al-Qa'ida Today?
William R| 9.7.10 @ 6:04PM
Nick ol boy, can you refute anything in the article?? I didn't think so.
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 6:30PM
William, ol chap, did you think I would actually sully my computer by downloading anything from that un-American commie site?
And if I did, did you think that I would actually read it? I can get lies like that from Olbermann-child, Matth-spews, or Wesley Crusher...er...I mean Rachel Madcow.
William R| 9.7.10 @ 6:44PM
Nick, you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer that's for sure.
Nick| 9.7.10 @ 7:33PM
"Nick, you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer that's for sure."
Said the spoon to the steak knife!
ABNCP| 9.7.10 @ 4:25PM
Thanks Will. You have identifed y0urself to all.
Antiwar.com, anyone who wants to take a look at this left wing site will for sure think they are at oh I don't know maybe, The North Korean Times,
The Iranian Republic, maybe 1950's Pravada,
etc. etc. You need to change your reading material.
William R| 9.7.10 @ 6:03PM
Leftwing?? Doug Bandow a frequent contributor to the American Spectator used to be a regular at Antiwar.
Margie| 9.8.10 @ 10:22AM
Exactly. That's why you and your anti-semitic pals hang here. Hey! Where's Toddy these days?
martin j smith| 9.7.10 @ 4:48PM
Canukistani it would take a course in the History of European Jewry say from the 18 th century thru the present to enable you to comprehend things about Anti-semitism, the holocaust and its connection with the State of Isreal. But being realistic I will simply say that you are ignorant or a lot.
martin j smith| 9.7.10 @ 4:56PM
Netenyahu is very American in his sp-eech and his thinking--meaning he gets how US presidents see Israe and the Middle east Conflict. This does not mean he agrees with them but he gets it. Israel should behave like an American Lapdog and we in our good graces wilkl give the Israelis a bone here and there and if things get bad we might aallow the Israelis to defend themselves and we might even give them the weapons to do that --very big of us. The size of Israel is smaller than the state of NJ and the population is about half of NYC. A mighty large country-true ? Surrounding and neighboring countries really refuse of recognize Israel--but here is the kicker--they actually refuse to recognize any people other than Muslim people--we in the West are not equal to the Muslim --inferior indeed. The goal is to whipe every Western Nation out but Israel as they say is the Canary in the mine so to speak. The scapegoat-if only those damn jews would just go away. This is what I believe the reality is. So for those who seek to blame or are Israel bashers don't worry your time will come too. You just do not know it yet. And, my fine feathered friends is how we got6 into WWII.
Yosemeti Sam| 9.8.10 @ 12:41AM
Bibi is - I think - crazy like a fox!
Now, Bibi - you wouldn't hurt chickens - would you?
Margie| 9.8.10 @ 10:42AM
Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will gather them from all sides, and bring them to their own land;and I will make them one nation in the land, upon the mountains of Israel; and one King shall be king over them all; and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms.
Then the nations will know that I the LORD sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in the midst of them for evermore." Ezekiel 37:21-28.