Ruling Class Mayor Bloomberg is out of his mosque. Also: Volt chargers. Bonfire of the nation builders. Plus more.
NO WAY
Re: R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.’s No
Mosque:
Wow. What a great piece on one of the obvious upside-down
issues facing America. As a proud member of the “Country Class,”
I am refreshed by reading articles that mirror my thoughts. Great
job.
— Candy Snipes
Mobile, Alabama
I have read that what is proposed is an Islamic centre and the Mosque is a small part of the centre. So I think that it is time that when discussing this issue we should not refer to a Mosque but the Islamic centre. If this is done, then those that approve of this building will, perhaps, lay of calling opponents bigots.
I don’t think that the issue is framed properly. In history, when one religious sect battled and defeated another they always destroyed the existing religious centre and built a new one on top of the it. This was usually done to show the superiority of the victors and to denigrate the losers. This was and is true of Islam. Some writers have suggested that this is what the builders of the centre are all about. It is necessary to understand the true motives of the builders and those that are financing the centre.
Is it educate non-Muslims in what Islam is, is to
commemorate the victims of 9-11 as the builders have said, or to
show the superiority of Islam over all others. If the reason for
the centre is to educate then why locate so close to Ground Zero,
If it is to commemorate the victims, why, it is not needed as a
memorial is set up already (Ground Zero itself). So we are left
with the last motive and this is what the debate should be
about.
— Mervyn
Freedman
Bayfield,
Ontario, Canada
Do I see collusion when you couple proposals to build a 13
story mosque two blocks from Ground Zero and a proposal by
Obama’s DOJ to try KSM and his cronies in lower Manhattan as
well. Coincidence? I haven’t heard too much about the KSM trial
lately, but it’s still on, isn’t it?
— Anthony Reese
The Mayor of New York is a pompous ass. After the attempted
car bombing in Times Square, Hizzoner had the audacity to scold
Americans about backlash against Muslims. Then, standing with the
Statue of Liberty as a backdrop, he once again seriously intones
and preaches about tolerance. He is so far out of touch with the
average beer drinking Joe (like me) that it makes me want to
wretch. I’m from Pittsburgh but if he smugly gives me a lecture
one more time, I’m driving to New York and socking him. As
always, you have hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial
head.
— Ray
Rieber
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
It would seem to me that the project, which will probably move forward as a sign of the strength of our diversity, could be delayed until we’re all dead by the fire inspectors, the electrical inspectors, the concrete and steel inspectors, and on and on and on…once that layer is breached, then the labor unions should be able to step in and get a floor built every 20 years or so….kind of like the asymmetrical crap we’ve had to put up with for the past 10 years…then final certificate of occupancy could be delayed due to the fact the fire evac system is so outdated, they’d have to re-install it and that could take years
The Country Class is needed to install the damn thing, so let us use the leverage we have over the ruling class.
Just my two cents worth.
— Ted Marolf
San Juan Capistrano, California
Please address the underlying issue. That the Mosque represents not a true religion — but a theocracy. Unless a “Moderate” Muslim calls
for the end of sharia and a reformation of Muslim beliefs from the ninth century (which they have declared finished and done and unchangeable),
they by definition, have as their “religious” goal to obtain submission from all non-believers and install sharia law.
Since this is a direct threat to our Western civilization; even though they cross national lines, they are our declared enemy.
For example, name another religion that requires death for all those who will not convert? And does not recognize government — unless they use that government’s laws to overthrow it.
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Alan Brooks| 8.9.10 @ 9:18AM
Building the mosque is probably an olive branch from muslims, but it is almost like building an SS memorial near the site of an demolished synagogue; or maybe akin to building a Jefferson Davis Confederate Presidential Library next to the birthplace of Martin Luther King.
Well-intentioned, permissible, ecumenical to a certain extent, but not to the best decorum.
FastJohnny| 8.9.10 @ 11:44AM
Even the least learned student of history knows that Islam offers no olive branchs. It never has and never will. Islamic thought only makes value judgements about how to best spread the word of Allah. If there is an olive branch offered it is because it is a discretionary judgement, a retreat that is necessary in order to win at a later date. One piece of good news for those of us that do not want to see a 'cultural center' (really a way to spread the word of Allah across the world of infidels) is that no construction crew in NYC would touch that project. We all know how hard it is to get work done in NYC on projects that non-controversial and not anti-Western, just think about trying to get the project going with this one. Bill O'Reilly from Fox brought this up and I think he is completely right, just try to find any construction union that will touch that with a 10 foot pole.
Alan Brooks| 8.9.10 @ 7:38PM
"If there is an olive branch offered it is because it is a discretionary judgment"
That is pretty much what I meant above, although individual-- and even small groups of grass roots muslims-- can be gullible as to their higher-ups motives in building the mosque in question; but not their leaders.
Alan Brooks| 8.9.10 @ 8:27PM
Islamics are extreme authoritarians, yes; but not totalitarians, Islam is not monolithic, as Pol Pot's Cambodia was.
Some muslims do think of Cordoba House as an olive branch...
but they are probably not the sharpest crayons in the box.
wolflen| 8.9.10 @ 1:11PM
unions wont work you say...a paycheck not wanted...doubt it highly...it would require unions and their leaders to have a moral compass...and if the crews are illegal aliens from mexico, where they cheered at the 9/11 destruction, and have no allegiance to Americae ....the cultural center will be built
Alan Brooks| 8.9.10 @ 7:45PM
Why don't we compromise on this: permit them to build the mosque, but only if a large, indelible, glow in the dark, bull's eye is painted on top of it.