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Missouri Says “No” to ObamaCare
Citizens in the Show Me State overwhelmingly passed a ballot measure against the national health care law’s individual mandate.
As Democrats in Washington began their drive toward national health care last year, Jane Cunningham, a state senator from St. Louis County, could tell that something was stirring in Missouri.
“I started getting phone calls from constituents that were more concerned than I had ever heard before in my entire decade in the legislature,” Cunningham said in a Tuesday phone interview with TAS. “They were frightened and they were angry and they wanted us to find some kind of relief for them from what the federal government was proposing.”
In response, she got together with other state legislators, and, borrowing language from the American Legislative Exchange Council, sponsored a bill to put a health care ballot measure before voters.
Yesterday, by an overwhelming 71 percent to 29 percent margin, voters in the bellwether state approved the resulting initiative known as Proposition C, which is aimed at protecting Missouri residents from the mandate that will force individuals to purchase health insurance policies approved by the government, or pay a penalty.
“Missouri is the first public referendum on ObamaCare in the nation,” Cunningham said, noting that efforts to shield residents from the affects of ObamaCare are underway — at various stages — in 42 states. Oklahoma and Arizona have similar initiatives on their ballots in November.
Skeptics of these initiatives say that they lack real teeth, because ultimately the U.S. Supreme Court will have to determine whether the federal government has the right under the Constitution to dictate to individuals that they must buy a product.
On Monday, a federal judge ruled that a Virginia-based lawsuit against the mandate should move forward, rejecting an attempt by the federal government to have the case thrown out on procedural grounds. Without addressing the merits of the underlying arguments about the constitutionality of the mandate, the judge concluded that it represented a novel use of the Commerce Clause that no court has yet ruled on.
Cunningham dismissed those who tried to down play the significance of the vote.
“We feel in Missouri like we are fighting for citizens all around the country that feel like we must draw a line in the sand between what are state and individual rights, and what are federal rights and responsibilities,” she said.
Yesterday’s vote was a direct result of citizens demanding their lawmakers take action, and then implementing a campaign for the measure once the legislature approved putting it on the ballot, she said. Cunningham recounted that grassroots organizations had held five rallies at the capitol, gathered on street corners, marched in parades, and called radio shows.
One of those citizen activists was Annette Read, a stay at home mom from the St. Louis area who used to spend her time designing jewelry and selling items online. She told TAS that she hadn’t been politically involved until 2008, when she and her twin sister were so fed up with excessive government spending that they decided to do something about it.
They began to organize and started attending Tea Parties last year, and things really took off when Read put her information on the website of Glenn Beck’s 9/11 Project as a local contact. “We were found by a lot of people, this happened all on its own,” she said.
The organization that they formed last year, I Heard the People Say, now claims 3,000 members in their database, and has its own website.
“When we started gaining membership, the feedback was overwhelming that people were most concerned about what was happening with the potential health care changes,” she said.
Last August, she met with Cunningham and several other state lawmakers to talk about the Health Care Freedom Act, and joined the campaign to win passage through the legislature, and then to win approval by voters. A lot of the work has consisted of raising public awareness, an effort that included having volunteers send out mailings from their own houses.
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Robbins Mitchell| 8.4.10 @ 6:38AM
Well,it may be premature,but I slept better last night after seeing the results in Missouri...particularly given that it is such a swing bellwether state usually....Barokeydoke is in trouble now...the boy has overplayed his hand and ObozoCare is going down the drain...one way or another
Chalkdust| 8.4.10 @ 11:15AM
Robbin Mitchell:
Your sleep may be interrupted again when the stupid party ( I confess to being a Republican) start making "deals" with President Clown in Nov/Dec to save the Bush tax cuts repackaged as the Obama tax relief stimulus plan (OTRSP).
gypsy| 8.4.10 @ 2:44PM
They will be very foolish Republicans indeed to tempt the wrath of the voters, who are waaaaayyy more pissed off than I've ever seen in my life. The message of Bob Bennett and all the rest of the trophies from this year's "Great RINO hunt" is simple: don't think you can play us just because you have an "R" next to your name. Either you live up to your true conservative values, or we'll pack your bags for ya!
loulou| 8.4.10 @ 4:05PM
The timid pantywaist Republicans had better wake up from their torpor and start planning for REPEAL. No grovelling, no reaching across the aisle, REPEAL!
Cornyn, McConnell, Boehner, Corker, etc.--you better be listening.
canuckistani| 8.4.10 @ 5:26PM
And then what?
DatsunMark| 8.5.10 @ 2:35AM
Live free or die.
System MD | 8.5.10 @ 12:58PM
One of the more common defenses of any unpopular [bad?] legislation is, "Well, we have to do SOMETHING." A while back, I wrote "Crisis–An excuse to precisely the WRONG thing" as a counterpoint to Rahm Emmanuel's " A crisis is a terrible thing to waste."
The commenter canuckistani deserves an answer to the question, "And then what?"
The answer is to begin real problem-solving, to practice 'good medicine' on healthcare, not political gotcha games or advancing an agenda that is opposite of what the people want.
We need to accept that Mr. Quicksolve [another blog on my website] does not exist. We need to begin a national dialogue on what we want healthcare to do and not do; to develop a consensus on that; and to transmit that consensus to our Representatives [that word certainly should be in quotes to make it sardonic].
The reason healthcare does not work is because it is a system that lacks central, guiding principles and is in fact a non-systematic system. Until we develop those guiding principles and agree on them, healthcare can never be fixed.
Imagine our nation surviving its turmoils such as the Civil War, Probition, civil rights, Vietnam, etc. without the Bill of Rights.
PS. The set of consensus principles should not be >2300 pages long like HR 3590 aka Obamacare. A half page listing ten principles–the Bill of Rights–was good enough for our country. In my book "Uproot U.S. Healthcare," on page 134, I literally left the page blank so the reader could write in his/her "Personal Healthcare Principles." Try it. It is not as hard as you might think.
Ret. Marine| 8.4.10 @ 6:49AM
The dem's, as a general rule, have been ignoring the will of the people for as long as I can remember. This is nothing new about their true intent, to by pass the will of the people and "rule over the people" as if they have any right to do this is questionable at the least in their minds anyway, but they do not, the just pretend to. It is about time for a true account of the ones who think in this manner. They will be held to account during the coming election season, and futher on down the road to their surfdom mentality. We the People is not a slogan, it is the right of the people to abolish the current system in the event of a tryanical menace to our fredoms. The have reached this point, there can be little doubt about this mindset at this time. The issue of states rights is going to rear it's ugly head against the Fed's and it should be this way. Call We the People racist because you don't agree with, or cannot win the arguement based on informed decisions merits, or debates at your peril. This has had the effect of what we just witnessed with the State in this article and it is safe to say it will continue as long as We the People are sufficient in our numbers of opposition. It matter none without the Supreme Courts doing their duty to "faithfully execute the laws in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights". Everything else will be a matter of disobiedence on the part of We the People. They cannot jail over 80+ million of us who refuse to travel that road to serfdom while while at the same time retaining our tools to abolish their mentality to rule.
AMENBRO| 8.4.10 @ 10:57AM
Agreed wholeheartedly. Could only have said the same a tad more sarcastically explicit
Big Tony| 8.4.10 @ 3:53PM
Check out the book "Nullification" in it T. Woods explains how we cannot allow the supreme court to be the final judges of what power the Federal goverment allows for itself. Because the court is just a branch of the Federal goverment and it is in a conflict of interest when ruling on power the Federal goverment may take. The real protectors of the freedoms for the people must lay in the states declaring that unconstitutional laws are null and void ie "NULLIFICATION".
Appleby| 8.4.10 @ 6:50AM
I think it is a good thing that the Obamanauts were permitted to overreach themselves to the point that even people whose worlds revolve around The Bachelor and Survivor realize that something is wrong. So many Americans think socialist health care would be *free* -- and the idea that the government could force them instead to pay out their beer money for insurance instead has really woken them up.
Just wait until they understand that they are also going to be forced to buy government-produced cars that they do not want ...
vgonza| 8.4.10 @ 2:03PM
Appleby, you are so right about being forced to by government cars. Just to add this. I originally from Cuba, I've been in this country since 1967 and I am a proud American. In Cuba, Castro started controlling everything the same way Mr. Obama is trying to do. We need to open our eyes! The first thing Castro did in Cuba was to take away weapons from the people. Watch out, this will be one of the next steps this guy is going to take. He comes from the Castro school of government.
Doug| 8.4.10 @ 7:13AM
"71 percent to 29 percent margin"....very surprising. Did no one vote in the liberal enclaves of St. Louis and Kansas City?
pending_unemployment| 8.4.10 @ 8:27AM
I'm one of those St. Louis folks on the 71% side, and I can't describe how proud I am that my fellow citizens have finally decided we're fed up with the current administration. As my unemployment looms ever nearer I pray each day that IF I stand in that unemployment line begging for a handout that Obama, Pelosi, Biden, Reid, and their cronies are behind me to keep me company.
Good News though! It looks like I may be close to work soon!
Darin| 8.4.10 @ 7:14AM
The federal government cannot legally force you to buy a product or service (insurance can be mandated if you own or operate something, but if you don't drive a car, you don't have to get auto insurance). The commerce clause (which is interstate anyway, and insurance cannot be sold across state lines) was never intended that way. That's why the spin has changed from it being health care insurance to it being a health care tax. The government can legally tax. Whether this is actually a tax is another matter (it certainly was never presented to the American people as a tax, and since the House and Senate never voted on the same bill, what was passed is illegal anyway).
Melvin| 8.4.10 @ 7:40AM
The pendulum does appear to be swinging the other way, but the Republicans better get off their high horse and come up with an alternative because America can't continue with the status quo and do want an alternative.
Eric Cartman| 8.4.10 @ 7:51AM
Unfortunately, Melvin, I can't see the current Republican "leadership" having the intelligence to come up with any ideas worth mentioning. They are already shooting at some of the younger guys and gals as they come up the hill with ideas that need serious consideration. they better get their act together soon - it's August.
George S| 8.4.10 @ 10:50AM
Not only that, Melvin, but the HHS is right now busy busy busy laying the groundwork and building the bureaucracy. Once it is up and running it will be almost impossible to dismantle -- especially if state governors use this to help balance their budgets by offloading Medicare into ObamaCare. Then there is nowhere for seniors to go. That's why Republicans better get the long range plan in place for repeal today, for tomorrow brings other exigencies that demand the full attention of the congress. If ObamaCare stands with any roots in the federal law, it will only be a matter of time before we are all on government care. The Democrats couldn't care less about a mandate that forces us to buy private insurance. They'll gladly let a court overrule that as long as the bureaucracy survives.
DILLON| 8.4.10 @ 2:43PM
this can't be stated enough. it is also the reason the health care overhaul has to be stopped ASAP. once it is in place it will be nearly impossible to remove. look at Social Security; it's failing but it will never go away.
canuckistani| 8.4.10 @ 5:30PM
Social Security is not failing. What frequency does your brain work on?
Folks, get real, the people want reform. Where's the GOP solution?
Costs continue to rise and outcomes do not. It's not just the lawyers' fault. The enemy is us.
Eric Cartman| 8.5.10 @ 3:11AM
The GOP solution? Where do you think you are, Liberal ahole? The RNC web site? There are plenty of ideas not having to do with your brain-dead, broke, unmanageable, disgraced, dumbass idea from the beginning, socialism. You suck and you ideas suck - bugger off, dumbass Canuck. Go aboot your own bidness.
Jim| 8.5.10 @ 1:07PM
Social Security is not failing? Did you not see the news that it will run a deficit the next 2 years? And IF the economy recovers it will start running a deficit again very soon? But go ahead and stick your head into the Social Security sand.
Tim*| 8.4.10 @ 7:55AM
This Administration is provoking a Rebellion .
America is saying No to Obama .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
Real Tea Party Change In November
Ned| 8.4.10 @ 12:25PM
"rebellion" is such a strong word... too bad I can't come up with a better one...
gypsy| 8.4.10 @ 2:53PM
How about REVOLUTION: does that sound better? If anything, rebellion is not strong enough; and its time for you and yours to lay off the mushy milktoast approach, drop the slave mentality, and start acting like free Americans. Our country didn't get its freedom just because we signed a Declaration after all.
canuckistani| 8.4.10 @ 5:33PM
No, we chose to fight tyranny and then southern gentry, shoving progressive amendments and acts down their red necks until they said 'no mas'.
Is that what you are talking about?
We bought Louisiana, Alaska and Cali and made a treaty with the brits along the 49th parallel.
Is that what you are talking about?
I_Say_Impeach_Don't_Wait| 8.4.10 @ 11:25PM
"...start acting like free Americans. Our country didn't get its freedom just because we signed a Declaration after all."
Dang! I love the way you said that!
REB| 8.4.10 @ 10:20PM
then how about we the people are about to hit the "RESET" button on this republic?
System MD | 8.5.10 @ 1:06PM
Is anyone else struck by the similarity of current events and the reasons we created the USA? Can you say taxation without representation? What about a ruling class–let's call it the Beltway–that is completely out of touch with the 'ruled,' a ruling class that decides solely for its own benefit, a ruling class that seems quite similar to a hereditary aristocracy (cannot get rid of them).
Reminds me of 1776, the colonies and the British. Maybe we can revolt IN OUR OWN BEST INTERESTS, but without bloodshed.
What do you think?
Ed| 8.4.10 @ 8:05AM
This is a big story. Missouri, like Ohio and Indiana, is a swing state that votes Democrat or Republican depending on current trends in politics. When the popular vote is 70%-30% in favor of repealing Obamacare, the electorate is stating their opinions loud and clear.
Mark| 8.4.10 @ 11:23AM
As a former resident of Indiana, Indiana only went "blue" for the first time since 1969 last election cycle. It is almost always a given "republican" state.
bluecollarbytes| 8.4.10 @ 8:16AM
Sounds like genuine grass roots politics to me. This is no collection of institutionalized victims and their cliques, but an uprising of 'average-citizen', who is the workhorse of our economy and way of life. This is REAL change from what folks have generally come to accept. It may have started several years ago when the DC borg attempted to ram amnesty down our throats. It was shown back then that a widespread uprising Can actually change the direction of the country, in spite of being labeled racist/bigoted by professional members of both major Parties. Today's protesters likewise are Not in the pockets of BigInsurance, but that accusation is easier for ObamaScare proponents than confronting rebellion against increased govt intrusion and control over the lives of free individuals.
Brian Mc| 8.4.10 @ 10:00AM
DC borg...I like that!
Resistance is futile? Tell that to my little friend...his name is Colt.
canuckistani| 8.4.10 @ 5:35PM
One question, when you're laying down with Colt, who's the big spoon?
Jim O'Brien| 8.4.10 @ 8:34AM
I wonder how many Congress Morons from MO voted for ObamaCare. Probably most of them.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 8.4.10 @ 1:22PM
Ironically, it was only thanks to massive doses of pain killers provided by my knee surgeon that I was able to even hobble into my polling place yesterday. It was worth it. Though strongly inadvisable I feel like dancing the Missouri Waltz.
The official tally on Prop C taken this morning from Secretary of State kommie-crat robbing karnie-mon’s web site with 3354 of 3354 Precincts Reporting is Yes - 667,680 (71.1%); No - 271,102 ( 28.9%). Total Votes - 938,782.
Missouri’s two sin-eaters are retiring RINO kitty kat ‘my word is your’ bond and kommie clair mcnumbskull whose lips are firmly attached to one of obummer’s buff butt cheeks. Rumor has it she keeps an inflatable obummer doll under her bed and kisses its posterior during her bedtime prayers when her golden calf is out of reach.
We have 9 kon-grrs-shunal districts:
District 1 covers North Saint Louis City and adjacent North Saint Louis County and is just as ably represented by kommie Lacy Clay as it was by his daddy. Other than it is his personal inherited kingdom his only other qualification for the job is he belongs to the Black kon-grrs-shunal Caucus. Rumor is that he also keeps an inflatable obummer doll under his bed and kisses its posterior during his bedtime prayers when his golden calf is out of reach.
District 2 primarily consists of the suburbs north and west of St. Louis is currently represented by respoobly-kon Todd Aiken.
District 3 takes in southern St. Louis City, much of southern St Louis County, and all of Jefferson County and St. Genevieve County which are to the south - a textbook example of gerrymandering. Currently it is misrepresented by kommie-crat rusty karnie-mon whose only qualification is his Dad is the only Missouran to win election to the sin-ate after dying. His sister robbing is running for retiring kitty-kat’s sin-ate office and won the kommie-crat nomination for the November election yesterday. Each sibling keeps an inflatable obummer doll under the bed and kisses its posterior during bedtime prayers when the golden calf is out of reach. rusty is also famous for hosting the town hall meeting at which Kenneth Gladney was clobbered by SEIU thugs a year ago this Friday. Whenever the opportunity presents itself, rusty firmly attaches his lips to the other obummer buff butt cheek.
District 4 includes much of the state capital of Jefferson City in Cole County as well as the eastern Kansas City suburbs. The district is predominantly rural. Its misrepresentative is kommie Ike Skelton. In yesterday’s primary the respoobly-kon Vicky Hartzler received about 10,000 more votes than I-don’t-like Ike.
District 5 primarily consists of the Kansas City–Jackson County metropolitan area and is poorly represented by kommie Emanuel Cleaver II. leave-it-to kleaver achieved national notoriety when his imagination was brutalized most hatefully by the n-word during the nanny botoxic ‘I’ve gotta hammer’ perp walk after the obummercare vote earlier this year. He also keeps an inflatable obummer doll under his bed and kisses its posterior during his bedtime prayers whenever his lord and master is unavailable.
District 6 takes in a large swath of land in rural northwest Missouri. Its largest voting population is centered in the Kansas City metropolitan area and the town of St. Joseph. The district includes all of Kansas City north of the Missouri River (including Kansas City International Airport). In addition to Kansas City's suburbs to the north, it also includes Kansas City's suburbs to the east in Jackson County, Missouri. Currently, respoobly-kon Sam Graves occupies that office.
District 7 covers the southwest corner of Missouri and includes the cities of Springfield and Branson. Incumbent RINO Roy Blunt is the father of former guv’ner Matt and won yesterday’s respboobly-kon primary to replace kitty-kat ‘my word is your’ bond and will run against robbing karnie-mon.
District 8 stretches from as far south as the Bootheel in the southeast, north to the St. Louis exurbs of Farmington and surrounding areas in the Lead Belt and as far east as the counties along the Mississippi River to as far west along the Ozark Plateau near Branson. The district is anchored in Cape Girardeau which is Rush Limbaugh’s home town. Incumbent respboobly-kon Jo Ann Emerson won her party’s nomination for reelection yesterday.
District 9 encompasses rural Northeast Missouri, the area known as "Little Dixie," along with the larger towns of Columbia, Fulton, Kirksville and Union. Boone, Franklin, and a portion of St. Charles County (suburban St. Louis). Incumbent respboobly-kon Blaine Luetkemeyer won his party’s nomination for reelection yesterday. Interestingly, no kommie-crat was on yesterday’s ballot for this office.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
"It used to be that the idea was, once every two years voters elected their representatives, and now, instead, it's every ten years the representatives choose their constituents." - Pamela Karlan, Kenneth and Harle Montgomery Professor of Public Interest Law at Stanford Law School
Only 900 days to go.
Highlander37 | 8.4.10 @ 2:40PM
Man that was hilarious! I could barely read it as I was laughing so hard. Well put!
Deborah D | 8.4.10 @ 8:36AM
Thank God for common sense from flyover country. Pay attention, Washington, there are more of us than of you, and we say NO.
Tom W| 8.4.10 @ 12:55PM
Well said, Deborah. They just don't realize that there are many of us 'flyovers' at home, quietly sharpening our pitchforks and lighting our torches...figuratively, of course.
gypsy| 8.4.10 @ 2:51PM
why "figuratively"? Why the hell are we so afraid to put the fear of GOD into these thieving lying traitors?
You go on being "figurative", and they'll go on picking your pocket and running your life and telling you its for your own good.
"There is no such thing as the government: just a bunch of guys spending your money and telling you what to do"
Average Infidel| 8.4.10 @ 2:58PM
Bull-shit
Mimi| 8.4.10 @ 8:40AM
Well folks, look at what we're seeing here... a
bold move by the people against the "FEDS".
Will we see Eric Hoffer come in with another law
suit against a state???
Never in my life have I seen battles go on, be-
tween the federal govedrnment and the states.
Maybe in my Great-Great Grandfathers day when he fought in the Civil War! This crew...DEMS, should be ashamed...for going against the people,
judgement-day is coming....90 days til we get to give our " NO " vote!!!
Louis Jenkins| 8.4.10 @ 8:46AM
Common Sense in flyover country is more abundant that we'll ever know. Arizona, Virginia, and Missouri have taken a stand against the Obamanation. Let more states get on the band wagon and wage war against him. Say No, No, No, No... Who actually makes America work? Not the entitlement attitude that are Obama's constituients. While those people may have a right to vote, they do not have a right to run ruff shod over us.
Deborah D | 8.4.10 @ 9:08AM
Amen, Louis!! I love that we just keep adding states that are trying their best to rebuke this out-of-control leftist cabal in Washington. Let's see, we could add MA and NJ to the list of those who are rebelling against Obamacare (MA) and spending (NJ). Which state is next? LA -- has been screwed royally by the Obamanation...they could be next.
Petronius| 8.4.10 @ 8:59AM
I piled on to this electoral hissyfit because I know the economic dynamics of medicine and insurance.
Most people don't know these things and don't care. The one thing the results of this referenum does not prove is any advancement of economic literacy of the infantile electorate in this state. The voters said they won't be forced to buy any medical insurance. But they still want others to subsidize their needs, medical or otherwise.
Deborah D | 8.4.10 @ 9:14AM
I catch your drift, Petronius. All MO has to do is look next door to IL to realize the error of that thinking. Let's hope that with the passage of this latest rebuke in your state, that many will try to educate themselves. Good luck.
carnot| 8.4.10 @ 9:08PM
that's nonsense. plenty folks are interested in responsible cost cutting initiatives, competitive cross border insurance, etc., etc. what isn't favored are unconstitutional dictats about what consumers HAVE to purchase, from whom they have to purchase it from and when they have to purchase...all the whole window dressed in a bill remarkable for huge wealth transfers.
Too bad for Obama - he stayed the course for his equity agenda at a time of economic collapse. the philosophy may have been strike while the political iron is hot...but it was doomed from the beginning in these circumstances.
Tim| 8.4.10 @ 9:39AM
The Dems and particularly folks like Obama that were trained in the far left corrupt world of Syndicate--Chicago--always make the same mistake of confusing people's economic and security fears with their IQ levels.
Most folks have an IQ of above 6O and as such once the fog lifts they can think and see through things using their God given intellect.
MO---just proved that age old truth once again!
The Bottom Line--
If there was no 2nd amendment, these clowns would have tried to impose a Chavez or Lenin type control some time ago. The fact that they can't dis-arm the citizens prevents any total control from really happening regardless of their strong hold on most elite Schools and on Most Media and print outlets.
DON| 8.4.10 @ 9:57AM
Thank you, Missouri Patriots...
This New Jersey boy thanks you
Pete| 8.4.10 @ 9:59AM
"Democrats wrote them off as angry mobs sent by insurance companies."
I had forgotten about this knee-slapper. As good ole uncle Clinton tought, when things look their darkest, pick out the most blatant lie and insist upon it.
baseball mom| 8.4.10 @ 10:07AM
I happily voted YES for Prop C yesterday and made sure my college student cast an absentee ballot while she was home.
And in answer to how many Mo congress morons voted for bozocare, every dem did including the lovely and talented claire mccaskill, who told us she only did so because it was going to save money. her pants are on fire.
Deborah D | 8.4.10 @ 12:02PM
Love it, baseball mom!! I can see Claire with burning britches! Congratulations and thank you from a former (gone since 1980) resident of IL. You're all an inspiration!
Clinton nee Publius | 8.4.10 @ 10:39AM
This tells us the discussion needs to continue and we need to consider other plans and proposals, including those that are not constrained from being successful by virtue of their design flaws.
Affordable, universal health care is not an oxymoron, but it is not possible under the current way we have organized our economy and institutions. If we want truly affordable health care that is not rationed and is available to all, we have to change the way we have organized our banking systems (both our central banking system and our commercial banking system) so that we can make affordable health care a reality for everyone.
Unless we are willing to address all of it, we will get none of it. In reality, it is not any different than only plugging some of the holes in your bucket. If you aren't willing to do the entire job, the outcome will always be the same as doing none of the job. This is the actual history we have experienced.
Al Adab| 8.4.10 @ 11:53AM
This referendum may be the biggest political news in a century. If the states can, through the ballot box, nullify Federal Law we have a revitalization of Federalism. John C. Calhoun would be proud. Where this might lead is anyone's guess and November is still coming.
Gill, are you there?
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 8.4.10 @ 1:53PM
Yep, and I just posted a lengthy 1:22 PM reply to Jim O'Brien @ 8:34AM. Unfortunately the thrill running up and down my leg today is somewhat dulled by heavy doses of pain killer which also keeps knocking me out. At the very end of the 1970 film ‘Tora! Tora! Tora!” Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is portrayed as saying after his attack on Pearl Harbor, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." The same giant that nuked Yamamoto’s homeland just rendered a strong kick to obummer’s buff posterior yesterday with a thunderous roar. However, I doubt if any of the kommie-crats heard or even paid attention. I haven’t been this proud of my adopted State since Give ‘em Hell Harry had a party for the Japanese aboard my favorite boat.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
“Hush-a-bye, ma baby, slumbertime is comin' soon;
“Rest yo' head upon my breast while Mommy hums a tune;
“The sandman is callin' where shadows are fallin',
“While the soft breezes sigh as in days long gone by.
TheMissouri Waltz - lyrics by J. R. Shannon
Only 900 days to go.
Al Adab| 8.4.10 @ 5:50PM
Gill,
Interesting irony is it not, that the Big MO and the Arizona rest side by side (almost) in Pearl Harbor?
Here we are again at the beginning of something big, and they are the players.
Steve A| 8.4.10 @ 11:54AM
Clinton, Your whole premise of "affordable, universal healthcare" is the problem. A: Nobody is "entitled" to health insurance, period (we are talking about insurance by the way). B: If the market were truly "free" we would not be having this discussion as the problem would be solved.
gypsys| 8.4.10 @ 2:57PM
its never been about helping people; its always been about controlling them. Its the same reason for the so-called "war on poverty", global warming, and allowing the alien trash of the hemisphere to piss on our borders and flout our laws:they are all part and parcel of the attack on our liberties and the assault against the middle class.
Mark James| 8.4.10 @ 11:55AM
Obama may in fact go down in history as the president who brought a great and positive lasting change to our country, just as he claimed he would. He will be remembered as the idiot who sparked a tremendous revolt of the common people which helped us re-set our government design back to what our founders had legalized with the Constitution in the first place. When our freedoms are winnowed away slowly over time, it takes a spectacular uprising to return it to it's legal design.
Thanks to this commie fool, we're being goaded into the action that has been needed since the early 1900s. Our challenge is to get the rock moving down the hill and then keep adding momentum until it's all rescinded and replaced with Constitutionally accurate laws. This means SSI, Income Tax, Medicare, most of the Federal bureaucracy.... must be eliminated and or replaced.
Many continue to parrot the leftist lin that this will be impossible or too painful.. NONSENSE, it's easier than slavery.
james wilson| 8.4.10 @ 12:08PM
The Feds are not losing sleep over this because Missouri will be paying for the scheme like the rest of us whether they use it or not. It is a mere belch on their way to ownership of the citizenry. Unless it catches on.
Pete| 8.4.10 @ 12:22PM
Hope they succeed. Much cheaper to fly to MO for healthcare than to whatever island the good doctors choose to relocate to.
Petronius| 8.4.10 @ 4:15PM
Fly, drive, hitch hike. We are hip deep in top drawer medical talent as we have two medical schools here, along with the world's largest croquet hoop on the river front.
System MD | 8.5.10 @ 1:18PM
Authors should normally promote their own books and I hope you all will read mine "Uproot U.S. Healthcare." I sent a copy to President Obama in response to his "Anyone with an idea of how to fix healthcare, I want to hear it." I got the reply you all would expect: none.
However, let me suggest someone else's book. In response to Pete's comment and others, read Daniel Putkowski's "Universal Coverage." It is a quick, easy read and shows precisely what we will get if we do not repeal Obamacare. Seriously, anyone who still supports HR 3590, read his book and then say that is what you want!
I am a doctor. I have the privilege and honor to help people and get paid for it. I love doing what I do, as do most doctors and nurses. We define our lives and our worth by helping others. Obamacare will make me and thousands, even millions, of providers say "Enough" and quit.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 8.5.10 @ 2:58PM
Doc, you mean beavisbud did not even send you a copy of either of his books in exchange? Would give your patients something to read after “(you) and thousands, even millions, of providers say "Enough" and quit.” I’m certain that especially those who fell for hype and chains would rather read that than last year’s ‘People’ magazine. I doubt the lord of flies will allow waiting rooms to close, rather he’ll simply assess a seat tax.
On July 22, I was examined by an orthopedic surgeon because of abnormal knee pain. He scheduled an MRI for the following evening. I returned to the surgeon on the 28th. He explained that all indications were that I had a torn Meniscus which would require arthroscopic surgery for repair. The scoping was scheduled the following Monday. From initial consultation to waking up with two tears repaired in a room filled with beautiful angelic women concerned with how I was doing, only 11 days elapsed. When obummercare takes hold, under a similar scenario I might still be on a waiting list for the initial appointment. There is a distinct possibility that I might not even make the waiting list because I am a diabetic stroke survivor who gets the senior discount just about everywhere I shop whether I ask for it or not, and I am never asked to provide age verification.
All I can say is God Bless you and all your fellow doctors and nurses who define your lives and your worth by helping others. Jesus is a healer, but He knew that when He returned to Our Father’s House, he needed people to continue His work. To lead His Church He gave us His Disciples. To heal the sick, he left us physicians and nurses like you. To mangle Psalm 23:4, “Yea, though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death, we will fear no evil: for The Lord is with us; His rod and His staff they comfort us.” His people have survived worse than whatever the kommies can concoct.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
“I was feelin' so bad, I asked my family doctor just what I had,
I said, "Doctor, Doctor, Mr. M.D.,
Can you tell me, What's ailin' me?"
He said, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yes, indeed, all you really need’s good lovin' - Rudy Clark and Arthur Resnick
Only 899 days to go.
gyspsy| 8.4.10 @ 2:59PM
and suppose that we the people refuse to pay up? Are they going to arrest everyone of us? That doofus Congressman from California may think the "federal government can do anything it wants" but hes wrong. DEAD wrong
Richard| 8.4.10 @ 12:25PM
Americans do not want Socialized Medicine--what is so hard to understand about that?
dw| 8.4.10 @ 1:15PM
The conservatives do have alternatives two of which are;
1, Insurance reform. private practice doctors can pay up to and beyond $250,000 /yr. for mal- practice insurance to defend what most of the time amounts to frivolous lawsuits brought by less than scrupulous lawyers intent on milking those insurance companies for all the money they can. That also causes these doctors to over test their patients in order to over cover their you know whats in anticipation of the forth coming lawsuit.
2. National competition among all health insurance companies to help lower prices and raise the quality of their service.
Free market answers sans government regulation.
That alone would do more to lower healh care expenses than anything involving government control.
Obama and his socialist gangs attempt to take over the private sector in this country must be completely defeated.
Those two items
Seek| 8.4.10 @ 2:54PM
I grew up near St. Louis, which assuredly is not "flyover country." That said, I'm proud to be from Missouri. How about a few other states joining in?
gypsy| 8.4.10 @ 3:00PM
at last count, 24 more of them are on their way.
sic semper tyrannis!
NavyBrat | 8.4.10 @ 3:19PM
This is what how it went down the LAST time the Federal Gov't. tried to bend the State of Missouri to its will:
"Rather than concede to the State of Missouri for one single instant the right to dictate to my Government in any manner, however unimportant..."
Lyon rose from his chair, spurs clinking, and pointed at Governor Jackson’s breast...
"...I will see you..." - he touched the bosom of General Price
"...and you..." - he prodded solemn Blair
"...and you..." - he poked Secretary Snead
"...and every man woman and child in the State of Missouri dead and buried!"
--- Brigadier General Nathaniel Lyon, on behalf of Lincoln, formally declaring Total War on the entire State of Missouri, including both Missouri State Guard and civilians.
These folks don't forget things like this easily. G*d bless Missouri!
Petronius| 8.4.10 @ 4:27PM
I await such a pronouncement from the enement Dr.
Bermengelwick. At first he was sending only one Vet to put down the denizens of Lemay. Now he will send hundreds to liquidate everybody outside of University City.
NavyBrat | 8.4.10 @ 4:34PM
I don't think that liquidation will work. Like the memory of the above incident, the memory of Quantrill is also alive & well in Missouri. He will ride again, if it comes to that.
REB| 8.4.10 @ 10:32PM
And there are thousands of us all over this great republic who remember,we remember the war and butchery declared on free men everywhere by those basturds,they got away with it once they sadly think they can do it again....gonna be a bit different outcome this time tyrants!
Tom Bruner| 8.4.10 @ 3:35PM
I think the people of Missouri can tell the difference between "universal access" and "mandatory participation." I support the former, but the latter - not so much. In terms of health care, or any other business activity, there is no way to increase consumption, leave production the same, and see prices go down. Recall that this was the promise of Health Care Reform, and anyone with basic math skills recognized it for what it was - empty. They may as well pass legislation to guarantee everyone five happy text messages every day without requiring everyone to send five happy text messages every day. Despite Congressman Stark's (D-CA) assertion, the government cannot do "most anything." When they try, catastrophe follows and it falls to the people to correct the problem before that happens or to pay for it if they can't stop it. In this case the people of Missouri lead the charge. Thank you for your leadership. I can see November from my house.
jrjr| 8.4.10 @ 4:52PM
My thanks to the patriots from Missouri, and, to the patriots of Arizona --- for standing up to tyranny and attempts to nail our Constitution to an upside down cross. Missouri, hopefully you will quickly join Arizona in repelling the invasion.
rhrh| 8.4.10 @ 7:17PM
Thank you, jrjr. Arizona joined Missouri's statute, enacted two years ago.
Searcher| 8.4.10 @ 5:42PM
Wikipedia (for what's that's worth) tells me that Missouri favored McCain/Palin over Obama by 4,000 votes (0.14%) in 2008. Therefore, I don't think that Missourians are "patriots", but the latest vote against the Medical Collective suggests that they are susceptible to learning what is going on around them.
TaterSalad| 8.4.10 @ 10:05PM
WAYNE ALLYN ROOT: Overwhelm the system
Barack Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.
Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.
-- Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?
-- Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."
-- Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama's plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.
-- Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America. But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.
-- Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America. The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.
-- Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.
With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.
Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan.
Impeach_Don't_Wait| 8.5.10 @ 12:01AM
"He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within."
I ain't brilliant but this has been my suspicion for a while now. People keep saying, "He really wants to help people." But I don't see it. He's too "confident" in the face of economic failure, that I suspect it's planned. He's fiddling while Rome burns because he knows the outcome he seeks. If the other branches of the federal government can't see it and put on the brakes for the good of the nation, I'm afraid the States will be our only hope.
There oughtta be a law...
CheshireCat| 8.5.10 @ 4:58AM
Round about the cauldron go
In the poisoned entrails throw
Fillet of Kevorkian snake
In the cauldron boil and bake
Eye of bribed congressman and toe of Ezekiel frog
Wool of kos ding bat and tongue of Mengele dog
Senator’s pork and blind-bureaucrat sting
Chris Matthews tingling leg and Obama's marxist wing
Maw of ravening tax shark
Root of Pelosi hemlock digged in the dark
M. Btok| 8.5.10 @ 12:49PM
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, August 3, 2010
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Speedypete| 8.5.10 @ 2:25PM
That is the trouble with these 7,000 pages in the last three pieces of ____ legislation. The intelligent people in finance and accounting whose job it is to know finally get their hands on the legislation and define all the pork spending and critique the government expansion waste and higher taxes. Don't tell your Congressman or Senator that voted for it but didn't read. The people of Missouri and the nation are getting the facts and instead of running in 2010 these legislators need to hide.
S.L. Toddard| 8.7.10 @ 5:42PM
It is heartening to see Americans re-embracing interposition and nullification.
Should these measures fail, there is still secession.
Michele San Pietro| 8.23.10 @ 5:58PM
Up with the heroes from Missouri!