The American Spectator

Carol| 8.3.10 @ 7:02AM

Great article.

Chris Christie, a real man who isn't afraid to tell a teacher to take a hike if she doesn't like the way she is being treated courteous of the taxpayers, would squash Obama in any debate. That's why we will never see the day.

Obama has said already that he is more concerned with getting accomplished what he promised his drones. The lasting damage he is DELIBERATELY doing to our country will be his legacy to himself. When all is said and done, Obama will be doing something more suited for his ego - being head of the U.N.

arlo price| 8.3.10 @ 8:03AM

The obamagedon PIMP thugocracy chugs along.....

PSA: Pimp Superiority Award

An award presented to the leader of a regime, who gets the most subjects to perform BOHICA.

Quite frankly, I'm bored with this bloodless coup.....LET"S ROLL

Average Infidel| 8.3.10 @ 3:59PM

You, me and a few (hundred thousand) fellow Patriots is all it's gonna take to put this so-called pretender-n-theif, otherwise acts as a putz in a major way, known as the "won" aka, barry soretto, aka, baraq insane obama, aka president, he thinks for life, obama, hmmmm, hmmmm, hmmm. I get sick to my guts every time "I see or hear this putz", every time. No exception, none.

Average Infidel| 8.3.10 @ 4:06PM

oops, got so infirated about this putz I forgot to include "put this putz in the cross bar motel along with a few of his friends, i.e. the entire democrat party, aka, the socilaist/marxist fellow travelers.

Grace| 8.5.10 @ 1:25PM

Me too - On with the Revolution!

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 9:38AM

But it is a relief Obama isn't as interested in power as the power-crazed Bush dynasty.

However Bush is water under the bridge; so do what you want-- I'm voting for the available antidote to clueless post-Reagan Republicanism
-- I'm voting for the incumbent Obama. And if you don't like it you can drop dead. Now that it has been 20 years you can't intimidate anyone anymore, they have lost their awe of the GOP.

Interested Conservative| 8.3.10 @ 10:06AM

B D S

Birt McKendree| 8.3.10 @ 11:18AM

How could you be intimidated by the GOP? If you're voting for Obama you must enjoy being told what to do with your life. Talk about clueless....

Marty| 8.3.10 @ 6:01PM

Cant argue with someone as stupid as yourself.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 11:53AM

How can you tell who the trolls are on this board? Simple: they're the one who are allergic to reality, common sense and logic.

You're irrelevant Alan. No one GIVES A FUCK how you vote, you clueless knee-jerk pathetic ObamaNazi fool.

"Drop dead"? Puh-leeeaze! We're alive and kicking and we are a lot stronger than your kind, since we are the people. You represent no one but yourself, and maybe a ridiculous pack of finger pointing bed wetting little crybabies.

See you in November. Have fun living in cloud cuckoo land.

PS When your mommy finally kicks you out of the basement,will you know how to pack your bags all by yourself?

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 12:19PM

Obama is an empty suit. He makes promises left and right but never follows up on them. Democrats are supposed to let the people have more freedom in what they do yet it's the democrats who have been passing all these unnecessary policies that that give power to the government not the people.
Chris Christie and the Republicans aren't afraid to mince their words and keep their promises.

Sam Vaughn| 8.3.10 @ 12:22PM

HUH?

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 12:49PM

I didn't write the message immediately above; repuglicans are not above identity theft.

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 1:08PM

I get it! "Repuglicans!" Republicans, only with a "g!"

You're clever. That's to be expected, given your crystal-clear rationale and overall perspicacity.

Gosh, if only every American though like you do, we could destroy this country and replace it with a benevolent totalitarian dictatorship within a week (if everybody did "their fair share")!

The State is All! Obama is the State! May His Beneficence and Wisdom Guide Us For A Thousand Years!

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 2:13PM

"Gosh, if only every American though like you do, we could destroy this country and replace it with a benevolent totalitarian dictatorship within a week"

You are evading the issue of Mike Steele, the RNC whose continued stay in his position mocks YOUR own sense of rationale and overall perspicacity. Plus Steele is more of an insult to black pride than Obama could ever be.
The GOP should be on the defensive-- not its opponents.

Tomas| 8.3.10 @ 2:22PM

Alan Brooks Troll Alert.

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Achilles Toejam| 8.13.10 @ 12:11AM

Brooks can never be reasoned with because he refuses to accept the truth as it pertains to history, economics and human nature. He comes on this website not to gain any knowledge or received truth but to antagonize and provoke the conservative people here that value their freedom and love their country and understand what made this country great.
Brooks is like a spoiled child riding in his mommy's grocery cart at the store being outrageous to get attention, everyone here that has read his crap knows they're dealing with a closed mind he should be reading the book "Liberal Fascism" but he won't and you're just wasting your time responding to him so why bother, I suggest giving him all the attention he deserves ABSOLUTELY NONE! Ignore him, without an audience the clown goes home.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 3:47PM

"Identity Theft"? Don't kid yourself Alan: no one wants to be you.

btw, there's a reason neither the GOP nor conservatives, nor any sort of normal patriotic Americans are on "the defensive": its this inconvenient thing called REALITY.

gurgle gurgle gurgle: that's the sound of shit like you getting flushed back down into the sewer where you belong

Keithbo61| 8.3.10 @ 5:44PM

Alan, we are far from being on the defensive. Your ideology has been exposed and is being completely rejected. Your ideology represents some ideological egg heads, public servants and a multitude of generational welfare leeches. The rest of us in the real world are not amused. We will pull the plug on this nutty experiment. So Allan, time to start looking for a job.

Bull-hocky piles| 8.3.10 @ 4:02PM

We have at times known you to fudge yourself, especially when the People call you out, ain't buying your line pal.

TheEnforcer| 8.3.10 @ 6:34PM

'
Hey Alan Brooks:

I have a better one for you.

Try DemocRATS.

Get it?

DemocRATS, that's what they are, Democ....RATS.

it's embedded in their name.

Alan Brooks| 8.4.10 @ 11:03AM

Oh, wait, yes I did

your mama| 8.5.10 @ 2:56PM

Alan,bless your little heart.Your BS is hilarious.You know Obama is one and done.He bamboozled and proved the hokey dokey he foisted on us isn't working.Only proved that voting present is not presidential material.

Alan Brooks| 8.5.10 @ 4:34PM

Identity theft!
For all you know I could be a guy named Alan Brooks but for the record I'm not republican, I just felt bored and wanted to contradict someone. I'm too young to vote anyways.

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 12:31PM

I would like to point out that Hitler got a bum rap: Yes, his regime was reponsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews.

BUT: Do you have any idea how many Jews would have died had Hitler NOT come to power? 13.42 million. That's a fact.

And the lives saved by Stalin? 46.9 million.

Pol Pot saved 2.3 million.

(Source: The New York Times)

History ought to be on its knees thanking these psychopa-- I mean humanitarians.

Doug| 8.3.10 @ 12:38PM

I think you mean that Pol Pot saved "or created" 2.3 million. Sorry to be so technical.

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 1:01PM

Good point.

And don't get me started on the number of Europeans that were saved (or created) by the advent of the Plague during the 14th century.

Like Obama, it was a godsend!

Marty| 8.3.10 @ 6:03PM

The fact that you compare anyone to Hitler is so utterly arrogant that the only thing I would find fitting is that you be gutted and hung from the Washington Monument. If I had the chance, I would do it myself.

REB| 8.4.10 @ 10:52PM

Seems to me you have some of hitlers ways...cruelty and brutality...although I doubt you could beat your way out of a paper sack,much less perform such an intensive act of violence,except in your twisted mind of course!

wildwilly360| 8.12.10 @ 5:11PM

You cant have the washington monument. Thats where the people are going to disembowel Obie Nancy and Harry. And I hope and pray its carried live on Fox!!!

AMENBRO| 8.3.10 @ 11:56AM

AUTOMATE ALAN

Doug| 8.3.10 @ 12:36PM

Wouldn't the "antidote to clueless post-Reagan Republicanism" be a RETURN to Reagan Republicanism? Really, how can voting for a Marxist idiot like B. Hussein Obama be the anti-dote for POST-Reaganism? I'm just sayin' . . .

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 12:54PM

Because, Doug, the GOP has no intention of running another Reagan-- why would a blatant mediocrity such as Steele be RNC if Republicans were serious about another Reagan?

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 12:59PM

...Doug, you ask straight questions, so here is a straight answer: if you considered Clinton a "Marxist idiot", then why do you think Reagan Democrats voted for Clinton in '96?
Because Dole was considered worse? Why do you think Reagan Dems would vote for Obama in 2012? because the alternative might be worse?

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 2:01PM

Dole's candidacy was pathetic and many Reagan Democrats were uninspired by this career party hack who'd been a senator for decades. he was old, he was tired and he was no heir to the Regan legacy.

Remember Reagan was an ex-governor of California who had cultivated his conservative bona fides for the previous 30 years while Dole was forever "reaching across the aisle."

Additionally, Clinton tacked significantly to the right after the 1994 Gingrich sweep.

Recall that Clinton's famous declaration that "the era of big government is over" was uttered at the 1996 State of the Union, which of course occurred in January of that year and set the stage for his reelection campaign.

Immediately thereafter, Clinton continually to the right to capture, among others, Reagan Democrats.

He signed Welfare Reform - a cornerstone of Gingrich's Contract with America - in August of 1996, just ahead of the election - this after his 1992 pledge, by the way, to "end welfare as we know it."

He went on to pursue a balanced budget and the tight fiscal policy that Alan Greenspan advocated.

No doubt Clinton was ideologically a liberal; but he was also a pragmatist. Had he been allowed by a Democrat congress - as Obama has been - to run an unimpeded liberal agenda, I have no doubt he would have done so.

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 2:17PM

" ' the era of big government is over' was uttered at the 1996 State of the Union"

No, it was Jan. 1995, I watched it-- it was a year before you say it was.

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 2:25PM

... oh, wait, it must have been '96, because the primaries occurred soon after; Clinton would have timed it just so. A thousand pardons, Grzmlyk, for having doubted Slick Willy's slick-osity.

But that was then, this is now... the GOP shows every indication of screwing it up again.

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 2:27PM

Check your facts again:

http://www.cnn.com/US/9601/bud.....ton_radio/

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 2:43PM

"http://www.cnn.com/US/9601/bud.....ton_radio/"

You are right. I doubted both you and Slick, how could anyone think Clinton would use 'the era of big government is over' soon after the election of 1994, rather than wait a year so as to have the words hang in the air right before the primaries? how silly of me.

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 3:38PM

That Clinton is considered by some to be an elder statesman is risible on its face. Friggin narcissistic used car salesman.

But like John Huston says in the great movie Chinatown, "Politicians, old buildings and whores all get respectable if they last long enough."

So true. Wonder if the great humanitarian Robert Byrd was buried in his white sheet.

CtBob| 8.3.10 @ 5:34PM

Wasn't buried with it. He donated it to the Senate Museum, if there is such a thing!

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 2:25PM

BTW, by 2012, the term "Reagan Democrat" will have long since become an anachronism, don't you think? The population has undergone a demographic sea change since 1984. Half the people voting in 2012 won't have been alive in 1984.

If you're talking "moderate Democrats," my guess is that unless the GOP completely blows it - always a possibility; Lindsey Graham may be the nominee - most will go to the "R" side of the ledger.

Assuming, of course, that Obama hasn't been proclaimed Dictator for Life (in which case the thrill running up Chris Matthews's leg never has to stop, and David Brooks can get off on Obama's pantleg crease in perpetuity).

If we DO have an election in 2012, keep in mind that by then 30 million Undocument Democrats will be voting, and Dems will control every voting machine in every precinct, so it's highly possible that Obama will capture 600% of the popular vote (why should being dead prevent a good liberal from voting).

And you can bet that a popular vote count of one billion to zero won't raise the mainstream media's collective eyebrow even a millimeter.

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 2:36PM

The above is a good comment, minus the conspiracy theory of Obama canceling the election and being crowned by the Pope at Christmastime.
BTW, if only Palin would run for POTUS, but America is too macho for that. Look back at the record; Geraldine Ferraro for veep in 1984;
her ticket loses.
Sarah herself for veep in '08-- almost a quarter century after Ferraro;
her ticker loses.
And both times it was merely a female veep-stakes, not POTUS.

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 2:52PM

Oh, come on: Ferraro's running mate was Mondale. MONDALE! Please! A bucket of warm spit.

Palin's running mate was McCain. MCCAIN! A feckless speck of phlegm.

You are not drawing an apt conclusion. Additionally, conservatives' water in the GOP is being carried right now almost exclusively by courageous women.

As for the conspiracy theory, I hate to correct you, but our petulant adolescent in chief would never be crowned by the Pope.

But he may be declared the 12th Imam by the Ayatollah class.

And let's not go into the actual election theft that invariably accrues to the Democrats - Al Franken being just the last example.

Al "Just Touch Me Till My Oceans Rise" Gore tried to steal 2000 (don't go apoplectic, Alan, ok?).

The Democrat rule of thumb: If a Dem loses by 5% or less, just keep counting until - bingo! Military ballots disappear and we "find" (nudge, nudge, wink wink) JUST enough Dem ballots to put our liberal lickspittle over the top.

After all, when it comes to liberalism, the "facts on the ground" are merely obstacles; it's always the "larger truth" that must be served (Walter Duranty, call your office).

Haven't figured out what the "larger truth" is yet (I'm not a True Believer), but all roads lead to corruption, coercion and tyranny.

CopyKatnj| 8.3.10 @ 9:52PM

Nice list but it needs to be amended.

You did not list the states that have "adopted" the majority vote rules for the electoral college. Unfortunately, NJ is one of those. The illegals, it seems, are just an insurance policy.

Sowell Disciple| 8.3.10 @ 3:03PM

Here's an insight into the mind of Alan Brooks. Because one female candidate for VP was on a losing ticket in 1984, and another in 2008, he concludes that this country is too macho to elect a female president. No consideration of the variables, which are more than significant: the impossibility of any ticket making a dent in Reagan's juggernaut in 1984, and in 2008 the uphill climb of any incumbent party to retain the presidency after an 8-year run, let alone the many factors such as the economy, McCain's weak campaign, the desire of many to make history by electing a black president, the success of Obama in fooling many into thinking he would be a post-partisan moderate, aided by the old media . . . .

Alan Brooks puts a lot of energy into cluttering this blog, but is careless in revealing his primitive mental process.

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 3:32PM

Sowell Disciple, you deserve praise for your moniker alone.

Yes, I agree - the context surrounding each election (not to mention the 24-year time lapse) precludes postulating any kind of pattern (and you'd need three examples in any case). And you succinctly mentioned the salient differences.

He is right that Republicans could easily blow it, sadly. I PRAY we get a true conservative beacon, and not a go-along-to-get-along hack.

I also worry about 2010. Sometimes I think the only thing worse than Republicans being in the minority is Republicans being in the majority.

Marty| 8.3.10 @ 6:09PM

No, see you are equivocating "cluelessness" with a type of Reaganomics, when in reality it describes Reaganomics as clueless. I know its a subtle difference, so I presume it is lost on you, therefor making you clueless. Isn't it funny how this all comes round full circle?

It's amazing that you think the "antidote" for voodoo economics is more voodoo economics. Hey Doug, when was the last time that any of these big businesses, which have over 90% of the wealth in the country, done anything for you besides outsourcing labor to India because it helps THEIR, emphasized to differentiate between YOUR, bottom line?

Fenestra| 8.3.10 @ 7:27PM

"these big businesses, which have over 90% of the wealth in the country"

Where should the wealth be? Who do you think created that wealth? Do you think money grows on trees?

Oh, wait, my bad. If you are a lefty dem you do think money grows on trees, and those evil corporations only got it by clear cutting those trees all down. They stole that money, and ruined this great country doing it.

The only righteous thing to do is tax the corporations and the rich maggots who built them into extinction. Then we would be free and live like kings.

While we starve like Russian peasants.

Mojo Risin| 8.3.10 @ 2:32PM

Here ya have it ladies and gentlemen, an undiluted example of empty headed devotion to a failed leftist agenda. Please don't allow your children to be democrats, it's destructive.

Here we are 18 months into Obama's executive interpretation of our rights, granted by the constitution and its limitations placed on government, with the results being obvious how far over his head "comrade Obama" is. Barack is driving this train off a cliff and we're all locked in boxcars...

DonH| 8.3.10 @ 3:12PM

You be so right slave days is over.

Marty| 8.3.10 @ 6:13PM

LOL, wouldn't it be funny if a republican candidate ran on the platform of sanctity of marriage and jim crow laws.

Albert| 8.3.10 @ 3:41PM

The first remark is laughable. Obama is all about power and nothing else. And yes, Bush is water under the bridge, which is probably why you brought him up. As for voting for the recumbent Obama, I don't like it, but then, it's your vote not mine and I have no plans to drop dead. Not to mention the election is 2 years away. However I hope you take confort in knowing that your tiny little vote is contributing to economic decline, to increasing unemployment, to massively growing national debt (far beyond what even the Bush/Clinton/Bush team ever dreamed of), and to international instability. Barack Obama is Bozo the Clown writ large. However, it is clear that if the last 20 years have proven anything at all, they have proven that the term "clueless Republican" is a redundancy. I quit the Party many years ago and they have shown me no reason to go back. If there were a real Republican Party, Obama would not be President (assuming, of course, that he really is President).

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:14PM

Yes, vote for a third party. Throw your vote away. :)

Chairman Nobomba| 8.3.10 @ 5:08PM

Mr. Brooks,
Have you taken your medication yet?

Ziggy Stardust| 8.3.10 @ 5:58PM

Please put dowmn your crack pipe, make yourself a gubment cheese sandwich, take a long swig off your OE 800, check your mailbox for your "spread the wealth" check, and chill out. It's all gonna be OK. Your Marxist messiah will be gone soon enough and you can go back to watching Sesame St and hating everbody

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:15PM

It seems fairly obvious that you have no idea what the term "Marxist" actually means. Just saying ...

your mama| 8.5.10 @ 3:02PM

Amen Ziggy.

BOB| 8.5.10 @ 1:37PM

YOU MY FRIEND ARE A REAL MENTAL MIDGET AND DESERVE THE FATE OF THIS COUNTRY IF THE TYRANT SUCKCEDES IN HIS REAL GOALS. DO YOU EVER READ ANYTHING BESIDES COMICS

BOB| 8.5.10 @ 1:39PM

THIS REPLY WAS MEANT FOR ALAN BOOB, I MEAN ALAN BABBLING BROOKS

flyman8| 8.5.10 @ 4:16PM

It is obvious you are unable to see the truth for the smoke and mirrors. Hopefully it will be my hand helping you climb out of the cesspool being dug by the Obama machine. If not we will both die in a maelstrom of deciet and anarchy.
Moving on...

bahmi| 8.12.10 @ 7:19PM

Obama is NOT interested in power???Of course you are voting for Obama. He can sh+tcan the Constitution, no problemo for you. Run up infinite debt, great idea. You confuse hatred of Bush with love of Obama. But, be blind, it's up to you. Sadly, you are right, the Bush dynasty was a disaster, horrible people with a horrible past of political intrigue going back to Prescott Bush.
But, horrible Bush does not mean great Obama, let's get that straight.

SPECTRE| 8.19.10 @ 2:01PM

Appearantly, you have had your head under a very large rock. BARAK INSANE OBAMA is very MUCH INTERESTED IN POWER. That's why he had been trying to cons0lidate as much as possible under the government's control such as the automotive industry, medical industry, wall street and our financial institutions.
Further, you appearantly haven't bothered to read up on your favorite DEMO(N)CRAT, OBAMA. He wrote many years ago that he was in favor of doing away with our FREEDOM of SPEECH and, with PRIVATE GUN OWNERSHIP.
Next, the third most important person in the nation, NANCY PELOSI has said that IF people want to resist what the OBAMA REGIME wants, then they WILL BE ARRESTED or, words to that effect.
By the time you open up your eyes, you'll be in a long line heading to the SHOWERS just like those at DACHAU or, you'll be GOOSESTEPPING in file with a LOT of others and forced to kill your own countrymen or, be shot !
Our liberties are now threatened in a way which hasn't ever been done before and, ANY vote for OBAMA means that the person(s) who voted for him are either COMMUNISTS or FASCISTS.
BTW, OBAMA said he is following in his father's footsteps and, guess what ??!!! OBAMA'S dead beat dad was an AVOWED COMMUNIST !! So, what does that make OBAMA ??!!!
One thing more, whenever you hear the words SOCIALIST, LIBERAL and, PROGRESSIVE immediately think COMMUNIST or, FASCIST because, that IS the only two ways those points of view can end ... as COMMUNISM or FASCISM.
WAKE UP before you end up DEAD or, worse yet, RED !!!
Oh, and you might find these last few facts to be of extreme interest ... COMMUNISM HAS FAILED IN EVERY NATION IT HAS PROLIFERATED IN. All of western europe is discovering that Communism simply does NOT work. Even the Chinese, as stubborn as they are, have realized that Communism does NOT work which is why they too have embraced CAPITALISM as wholeheartedly as they have. So, why should we bother with Communism since it doesn't work ??!!! GOOD QUESTION !!! Here's the last thing ...... IF you bothered to look at the DEMO(N)CRATS from an historical standpoint, you'd see that almost everything that is hurting this nation now IS their fault. It was under CARTER that FREDDY MAC and FANNY MAE were told to accept substandard loans which lead to the housing debacle. Then go back to FDR and WOODROW WILSON's administrations and you'll see even more BOONDOGGLES such as SOCIAL SECURITY. EVERY THING which is hurting this NATION now is the fault of the DEMO(N)CRATS.
Next: LOOK AT THEIR LOGO ... IT"S NOTHING LESS THAN A " JACKASS " !! I guess this IS telling us something, it's either saying that the DEMO(N)CRATIC PARTY and ALL those, including you ALAN who follow them are
" JACKASSES " or else they're saying they're going to make " JACKASSES " out of ALL of us !!!
--------- I am the SPECTRE, of things to come !!!

Granny Jan and Jihad Kitty| 8.3.10 @ 7:10AM

PSA...loved it! There's a PSA sound bite I use in my videos that seems to have been overlooked. If anyone wants to see him actually say it I'll find it on You Tube for you: "Sometimes you can fault me for being honest to a fault." Really, he said it.

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 1:06PM

"You're irrelevant Alan. No one GIVES A FUCK how you vote"

Gypsy, it's good you wrote this; because I was told by many here that my vote does matter, and they want me to vote GOP.
So now that one of you admits you don't care who anyone votes for, we don't have to concern ourselves with what you want, politically. My vote is as irrelevant as your own electoral preferences. You are very tolerant folks. How sweet of you.

ggoblue| 8.3.10 @ 7:30AM

what about this category?

JOBS LOST OR SQUANDERED

2.4 million lost plus 300k per month squandered because real americans are afraid to invest in socialism....lets see here....

7.8 MILLION JOBS LOST OR SQUANDERED BY BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA MMM MMM MMM!

91 days until some commies lose THEIR jobs.

Eric Cartman| 8.3.10 @ 8:51AM

The RYM (rim): Run Your Mouth award. As in: Uh oh, Obama is RYMMING again.

Robert Pinkerton| 8.3.10 @ 10:42AM

Mr. Cartman, in context of the late and unlamented Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), the acronym R Y M stood for Revolutionary Youth Movement.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 11:56AM

that may be so Robert, but I still think that Eric makes a good point. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to repair to the smallest room in the house, as I need to create a "movement"of my own

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:21PM

You are aware that the housing and lending bubble burst under the Bush presidency right? Also, you are aware that the two bailout packages actually stopped the collapse of the financial markets, which if failed, would have lead to a depression akin to that experienced in post-WW2 Germany? You know what, I think Obama has handled the economic crisis especially well.

Robbins Mitchell| 8.3.10 @ 7:42AM

Well,they don't call the boy Barokeydoke Hubris Obozo for nothing.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:22PM

Are you mentally retarded?

Deborah D| 8.3.10 @ 7:56AM

I've seen a lot of videos online of Governor Christie...he's a hoot and a tough guy. That's what Republicans need -- a tough guy who won't whimper and back down from the fight of our lives, because that's what we're in right now. Some great R governors out there. Christie, Daniels, Brewer, McDonnell, Jindal, Barbor. Oh, and all of Palin's "Mama Grizzlies" -- let's see more of all of these faces as 2012 draws near.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:25PM

I can see it now: The Cable Guy in 2012 with running mate Jeff Foxworthy. Don't lie, you'd vote for them in a second you silly sack of white trash. Why don't you go back to the steel mill where you belong.

sj| 8.4.10 @ 5:28PM

Martin, don't look now but your elitism is showing. Odd how many liberals who are "for the people" demonstrate such contempt and loathing for said people.

Ruffslitch| 8.5.10 @ 3:37PM

Well, Ah cain't go back to th' steel mill cause hit went outta bidness on account o' th' gubmint regulations that the Democrats put in. Now steel comes cheap from China. Who you callin' white trash ennyway? Say that to mah face an' I'll shoot you down like an egg-suck dawg! ( An' you cain't do nuthin' about hit 'cause Ah got a gun and yew don't! )

flyman| 8.5.10 @ 4:20PM

kudos Deborah. We have awakened and will remain vigilante in our quest to retake the country and our freedom.

dw| 8.3.10 @ 7:56AM

"Ah..Ah..I have lowered the water as I walk on it, becoming the one we have all been waiting for, and then I created or saved all the jobs in America and half the world and I am alaways right and just look at me, I am the most hansome guy in the world and I have proved that the communist way is the best way and we do not need to drill for oil because I have invented alternitive energy that will be availible later today plus I...ah...did I mention that I am the one...ah...and tomorrow I will do more things for which you all will be able to worship me for. I think I will play some golf now because I deserve it and then take some vacation time. Don't worry I will be thinking about what else I can do to save you all from yourselves as I recreate."

NJ Mike| 8.3.10 @ 7:57AM

Chris Christie is gonna disapoint you all.
Few despise obama as much as I, but as a resident of NJ I have to report that CC has:
Decided to defray NJ's med costs by jumping in with both feet to Obamacare.
Is chasing the "Race to the Top" cash to the point of negotiating with the unions to get the app in.
And lastly, according to CC press office, it wqas an honor to meet OBAMA, not the President and that he(Obama) is a warmn nice person who is not at all trying to destroy the economy.
Mayor Ann Little had the right idea about meeting the Precedent.....she was on the other side of th ropes with the Tea Party and other protesters.....
Never forget that CC waffled when asked about illegal aliens......his answer? He did not think it was ILLEGAL to enter w/out adhereing to the proper procedures.

Melvin| 8.3.10 @ 8:09AM

We have to keep in perspective that there is not one political candidate that is 0 of what we all want all the time.
Somewhere along the line we demanded perfection of all candidates and office holders.
Hence, this is where the, "Waffler" came into being. Trying to be all things to all groups.
We have to prioritize what is killing us. High spending, high taxation, at the State and Federal level. If we or NJ has a guy that can puncture the armor of the tax and spenders and bring it under control and to a sane level then that is about � percent of the problem.

Nunya| 8.3.10 @ 1:19PM

Where's George Washington when you need him?

Actually, I'd go for Andrew Jackson right about now...

Anastasia Mather| 8.3.10 @ 9:25AM

Um, which NJ do you live in?

NJ Mike| 8.3.10 @ 1:06PM

Today marks the roll-out of NJ's website to disburse the $140 million in Obamacare $$ to SUBSIDIZE low income folks w/pre-existing conditions.
CONSERVATIVES would prefer to NOT take Federal $$$$$.
I stand by my statement.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:27PM

I see alot of complaining mixed with horrible grammer. Please, your so smart, what would you do if you were president?

Stammon| 8.3.10 @ 11:57PM

As a steel mill worker even I know that in "Please, your so smart" it should be "you're".

You're not as smart as you think dumbass, and it shows.

BOB| 8.5.10 @ 1:50PM

MARTIN I WOULD APPOINT YOU SAC RATARY OF THE SHIT HOUSE. THAT WAY YOU MAY POSSIBLY FIND WHAT LITTLE BRAINS YOU MAY HAVE HAD.

your mama| 8.5.10 @ 3:07PM

Oh Bob.You just got busted,just admit it.Now call the names because that's' what you libs do best when you lose an argument.

your mama| 8.5.10 @ 3:15PM

Bob
Sorry,that was meant for Martin.

Ralph| 8.3.10 @ 7:57AM

The ability to remain likeable while your policies are not, and throw your friends under the bus when it suits your pupose is Obama's key to PSA. Obama is a natural at operating under Machiavelli rules.

What surprised me most about him, is his ability to lie without being embarrassed about it; either he doesn't care if he lies, or doesn't know he's lying. Whichever case he's seems to be out of touch with reality.

The View appearance among his girlfriends was an exercise in self indulgent/grandizing reassurrance. He makes the president in the movie "Idiocracy" seem more than parody.

ncatty| 8.3.10 @ 9:47AM

He is likeable the same way Urchel is likeable.

Robert Pinkerton| 8.3.10 @ 10:47AM

Mr. Obama is a showman who carries his own mise en scene with him.

The Obaminable Showman?

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:28PM

He is a great public speaker, but he also has alot of substance, which makes him, first and foremost, a great leader.

your mama| 8.5.10 @ 3:08PM

Martin
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nunya| 8.3.10 @ 1:33PM

Obeyme is a narcissistic, self-important Marxist of the first order. I personally think the man is an idiot, though I must admit he speaks well.

The man has no experience running anything, why else does he have 30+ "Czars" to make decisions for him? He can't manage, he can't execute, he can't make a decision--especially when it's important, and when things go wrong it's always "blame Bush" or some other lame excuse.

He's a piss-poor excuse for a President, and I never thought we'd have a worse one than Carter (who was also an idiot of the first order).

Albert| 8.3.10 @ 3:46PM

Speaks well?! Really? President Bozo is one of the worst public speakers I have ever heard. I cannot listen to him he is so bad. He drones like an imbecile. He says virtually nothing of substance. He is clearly READING what he says. And, when away from his teleprompter, he can not put together coherent sentences. Speaks well? I don't think so.

bahmi| 8.12.10 @ 7:29PM

Second the motion. If you listen to Oblowme's verbiage, he says exactly ZERO. It's all trivialistic crappola, garbage that summed up means nothing. People have given him the persona of Chauncey Gardener and he's as vapid. His wife's stupid excuse for blowing a ton of dough on the Spain trip is pathetic. She says, "visit American first" and then traipses off to Spain. From the get-go, these sharks have blown money like there's no tomorrow. Sadly, there may not be, either. Martin, STFU.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:32PM

What's a first order Marxist? Does this mean that there are second order and third order Marxists? Please elaborate, because I think you literally have no idea what your talking about.

I mean really, you know nothing about what he has done and yet this apparently makes you an expert on US politics. Admit it, your white trash. You complain at the bar about jobs going overseas, and then you turn around and support these same companies and their tax interests. I mean really, how stupid can you get?

Tom| 8.3.10 @ 8:03AM

"From wages deducted from teachers' paychecks, the two unions made nearly $60 billion in campaign contributions over the past two decades."
I am not saying this is wrong but it seems dubious. Campaign contributions would average $3 billion a year. TOTAL receipts for the NEA for 2007 was $352 million. The teachers unions are certainly non-representative of their membership but this is Bill Gates type money and I doubt it is possible they spend that much.

Louis Jenkins| 8.3.10 @ 8:12AM

Well, apparently everyone above has stolen my message(s). Who watches The View? Raise your hands? (Sound of crickets chirping.) Oh! I do not count The View as an earth shattering program. Far better if he could appeared on Amos and Andy instead. At least he'd blend in with the humor, lies, and fabrications. Can't wait until Nov.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:33PM

Shouldn't you be getting a rash on a tractor somewhere?

R Martin| 8.3.10 @ 8:29AM

He should be rated on the ASS scale (American Sentiment System). The damage this guy is doing cannot be overstated but certainly is under rep0rted. He is subjecting us to the frog in the pot of cold water technique. The heat is being turned up so slowly that, before we know it, we will have lost this country.

Mimi| 8.3.10 @ 9:19AM

We are NOT about to lose this country!!! Not over this amateur in the Whitehouse! The DEMS pick, this time around is going to do them in and wise ones know it! "We The People " win on this one....We are taking out our history books , putting to use the Founders sacred work, and dusting off the Constitution. This current turmoil will end via " The Vote ". In this frightful period....The disaster has caused the LIBERTY bell to cry out and we have heard! Good citizens will take care of BUSINESS....Don't doubt it!!!

R Martin| 8.3.10 @ 9:30AM

Well...I doubt it a little, but I sure hope you are correct. In any case, ending the "current turmoil" is not sufficient; reversing policies and legislation which gave rise to the turmoil is required. That will become next to impossible if, as rumor suggests, those 20 million illegal immigrants are granted amnesty and the right to vote.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 12:04PM

Gotta agree with Mimi,because
A) we are not frogs
B) we have eyes to see, ears to hear, brains to think and hands to vote
C) We are wise to their tricks now...just for giggles, I would LOVE to see the SEIU or the "Panthers" or CodePink or any of the other traitor groups show up at the polling placess in my town this fall. Go ahead, thug, point a night stick at any of us and see what happens next
D) We are so DONE with the lawlessness of this administration, that I highly doubt most Americans will continue obeying the ridiculous rules spewing out of Washington. Just for arguements sake,do youreally think the people of Arizona are going to continue to put up with criminal gangs and the alien trash of this hemisphere destroying their state? Nope, gotta feeling they're organizing, and not in an un-armed fashion either

Albert| 8.3.10 @ 3:48PM

Well, I certainly am no frog, but it appears many voters are. Enough to swing an election? I hope not.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:36PM

"The damage this guy is doing cannot be overstated"

Yet, this is all I ever hear from people like you. I never actually hear about what he is actually doing which is damaging the country. I never hear how his policies are negatively affecting you. In fact, I bet you got a nice tax return this year because of Obama, but you wouldn't know because your not so good with numbers or reality. It's a shame that blue collar such as yourself are opposed to a blue collar policy president. It's idiocy at its finest.

BOB| 8.5.10 @ 2:00PM

KEEP THE FAITH MARTIN YOU ARE BOUND TO FIND THOSE BRAINS SOMEWHERE. CHECK THE SEPTIC TANK. BY THE WAY, WHAT MATCHBOOK COVERS ARE ON YOUR MUST READ LIST.

Reply in Kind| 8.3.10 @ 8:43AM

NJ Governor Crisco needs a course in Weight Watchers 101. Trenton Two Ton needs to lose a ton. No more pork chops for you Bulbous Boy.

Mimi| 8.3.10 @ 9:26AM

I don't care if he's Fat ..Skinny..Black, White, Purple or Pink!!! It's the SPINE/COURAGE and ability to do the right thing!!! WHAT A GUY!!!!

Stan REdmond| 8.3.10 @ 9:56AM

You learnded yer argumenting good. Like a liberal progressive when there is no argument for your own views, attack. Alinsky rules anyone? Fortunately a real adult will not fall for such childish Alinsky "humiliating" tactics.

Bob| 8.3.10 @ 10:15AM

Oh really, look who was elected President ...a disciple of Alinsky. Many "real adults" did fall for such childish tactics in '08 and voted for Obama.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:38PM

And guess what, now I can get access to affordable health care. What an asshole ...

Ruffslitch| 8.5.10 @ 3:47PM

If liberals hadn't made it mandatory to care for illegals in ERs the cost of health care wouldn't have gone through the roof and you would have been able to pay for it AND retain your dignity. Moron.

NavyBrat| 8.3.10 @ 11:43AM

"When you have no basis for argument, abuse the plantiff."...Cicero

This is the only tactic you clowns have left. Its rather comical.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 12:06PM

Typical ObamaNazi traitor: allergic to facts, common sense and logic, so he has to resort to personal attacks. Go fuck yourself RiK: your kind is going down

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:40PM

I hope you that you will be mangled in a horrible tractor accident.

In fact, if your teeth were on fire, I wouldn't piss in your mouth.

carnot| 8.3.10 @ 10:33PM

9.5% and going up

Steve A| 8.3.10 @ 8:56AM

Hey Reply,
You sound like a real deep thinker. Why don't you go back to watching Sponge Bob & waiting by the mailbox for your 99 week check in your Mom's basement...

Reply in Kind| 8.3.10 @ 9:10AM

Physical appearance is a huge asset and I do me huge in Governor Crisco's case especially in a presidential run. Many believe Trenton Two Ton is a top tier candidate for the 2012 GOP nomination. But wait wouldn't Bulbous Boy have a better chance if he ate Boca burgers and slenderized himself. Just think what a field day cartoonists and comedians will have with a presidential candidate that looks like a barrage balloon. His weight and appearance will become the key issue of the campaign. Image is everything; the current president proves my point.

Mimi| 8.3.10 @ 9:46AM

Who writes your paycheck?...Soros, Whitehouse? Come-on..Wheres the money c
oming from?.....The go get SARAH FUND???
It's so early to start sleasing any possible opposition candidate.....You guys Paranoid??? When our guy is found , He'll be so strong in character, founding principles nothing you try will fly or penetrate....give it up pal!!!

Ray| 8.3.10 @ 11:04AM

"Physical appearance is a huge asset"

No, it isn't. Just look at "W," for example. He's not a tall man. Most would describe him as small and diminutive, yet he was elected President, not just once but twice. So, tell me again how appearances are important to anyone other than extremely vain people?

Mormon Girl| 8.3.10 @ 1:57PM

The former President's appearance wasn't a handicap but Christie's is. Most Americans have weight problems but Christie is not just overweight he is OBESE. This will be a large factor, no pun intended in choosing a president. A man this fat may have significant health problems and his medical history will come into play.

your mama| 8.5.10 @ 3:17PM

mg
Christie is losing weight.Try and keep up.

Sowell Disciple| 8.4.10 @ 6:26PM

Unfortunately, physical appearance is an important factor. I think that if Obama had been overweight, he would not have attained the glow of a Christ or rockstar figure (slender physique required for both). Christie's weight problem goes beyond appearance, though, to become a health concern. He's recently acknowledged that, and I suspect aht we'll see a thinner Christie before the 2012 campaign.

Also, W is not diminutive -- he's around 6 feet tall. Shorter than his dad, but hardly small.

Ruffslitch| 8.5.10 @ 3:51PM

And FDR had polio. Although that WAS before 24/7 media saturation.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 12:12PM

Hey there RiK,
gotta believe one of two things about you, besides the fact that you're allergic to soap, logic and common sense:

A) you've got weight management issues of your own, and you're projecting
or
B) you are having some weight loss problems as the result of smoking one too many "peace pipes", either loaded with crack cocaine or infected semen

Either way, your kind is irrelevant.
FLLLLLLLUUUUUUSSSSHHHHH.... thats the sound of creepy ObamaNazi trolls like you going back to the sewer where you came from

Charlene| 8.3.10 @ 12:47PM

The current president's head is the fattest thing around. Compared to the size of that head, Gov. Christy is slim and trim.

Bob Putter| 8.3.10 @ 2:30PM

You make a valid point, image over substance. People want glamour not substance and in this case Christie has way too much substance, lard that is.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:42PM

I find it funny that this is coming from someone who has probably collected unemployment.

davelnaf| 8.3.10 @ 9:17AM

Most Americans give a new president a fairly long ‘break in’ period during which he is expected to learn enough to adjust his thinking to domestic and foreign policy realities. And one would think that the many times Obama has been slammed into a domestic or foreign policy brick wall by now he would have modified his views to some extent . But Obama has done nothing of the sort. This is his narcissism at work.

It is safe to predict that between the time Obama loses office in 2012 and the time he leaves it we will see him do something that no other president has ever done and it will be so stunning it will overshadow everything else about his presidency. To give you a hint: it could well wreck what is left of the Democratic Party.

Bob| 8.3.10 @ 9:30AM

Be careful my friend don't under estimate this man and the Democratic Party. This election cycle is not over yet...remember Dewey in '48. A more recent example is '94. The GOP had the White House occupant on the run and Rush was at his pinnacle yet the GOP nominated a doofus named Dole. Bill won again and the GOP eventually collapsed. Beware!

FastJohnny| 8.3.10 @ 9:30AM

He is right you know. Christie is at a disadvantage for election because of his physical character. While history has been forgiving of 'heavy' presidents, in this day and age of magnifying glass scrutiny his wieght problem would be a negative in any election at the national level. While everyone loves a fat man, the job pf presidency is dependent upon the people visualizing a leader who looks like he can get off the couch. I do hope he addresses his wieght problem, we could use a politician like him in the future.Plus, despite his failings on some issues, he has at least moved ahead in a direction that is far more livable than that of the Dems and the current Obama regime.

Reply in Kind| 8.3.10 @ 9:45AM

Thank You. I have nothing against the NJ governor. I'm lampooning his physical appearance because this is just a taste of the treatment he will receive on a presidential run. Lesson learned Steve A? You need to bone up on modern day culture, start exercising and lose 10 pounds of fat in your brain.

Proud Mormon| 8.3.10 @ 10:02AM

Governor Christie is the couch. Vote for Romney...a man who can return prosperity and is in top physical condition.

JoshINHB| 8.3.10 @ 10:18AM

Mitt would make a great candidate.

For the democrats.

That's where his big government philosophy fits.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 12:15PM

Romney will never be the nominee much less President, because he has no balls at all. He got beat by McCain on Super Tuesday, and dropped out of the race like the plastic crybaby Ken doll he is.

Sam Vaughn| 8.3.10 @ 12:25PM

Mitt is a RINO.......

Nunya| 8.3.10 @ 1:42PM

So is McCain. In fact, I wouldn't vote for the man for dog-catcher, much less President. Last time we had a choice of a leftist in Republican clothing (McCain), or a Marxist. The Marxist won out, becuase there are people like me who won't vote for a watered-down Republican. God help us to raise the best candidate in 2012, or we can say goodbye to liberty forever.

Sowell Disciple| 8.4.10 @ 6:32PM

"History has been forgiving of 'heavy' presidents"? The last one was 100 years ago: Taft, who was elected because Theodore Roosevelt anointed him as his successor. Taft lost his reelection bid big-time -- third behind Wilson and (third-party) Roosevelt.

Then again, if you're including Clinton in the 'heavy' category, it can be added to the list of things he's gotten away with in the eyes of recent history. But I think that he never got to be obviously fat.

Steve A| 8.3.10 @ 9:43AM

I'll take the Fat Guy Vs. Dumbo Ears challenge any time. Plus, Dumbo throws like my sister with a broken arm. Did you see him toss the first pitch in Chicago??

Pete| 8.3.10 @ 9:47AM

Osama smokes and the media won't touch it. Why? He is a Democrat and black. Christie might do better to get a deep tan over losing weight.

ncatty| 8.3.10 @ 9:50AM

That is why he plays so much golf. It is one of few remaining places where you can light up.

Albert| 8.3.10 @ 3:51PM

Does he cheat on his golf scorecard too? You know, like Clinton does?

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:44PM

How 'bout because he has the right to smoke cigarettes? Or are you really that stupid and racist that you actually believe anything you are saying.

carnot| 8.3.10 @ 10:35PM

9.5% and climbing

Ruffslitch| 8.5.10 @ 4:01PM

You mean except everywhere the ( liberal, government's-gonna-MAKE- you-behave-! ) anti-smokers have made it illegal?

bahmi| 8.12.10 @ 7:52PM

Smokers will likely pay more insurance money under Oblowme-care. But, it's legal. Martin, dad gum boy, you one smart dude. You gotta be black, ain't you? Just everything about yo' boy is pure perfect, ain't it? We can all tell your loyalties are along the color lines, no problem. We may drive trucks and drink beer, but we ain't racists like you. You are clearly in the 90% club that worships Obama 'cuz he be black. What more you folks need in a candidate?

Steve A| 8.3.10 @ 9:51AM

Hey Reply, Maybe you should brush up on current events. The Dems. played the fat guy card vs. him down the stretch in NJ & it backfired & pushed him over the top. The majority of Americans are, shall we say, fat, if not 10-20 over & would sympathize with an attack on the guys spare tire. I hope they are stupid enough, like you, to push that button.

Gloria Hussein Steinway | 8.3.10 @ 10:16AM

I would think real, thinking, ADULT women would be ashamed of these groupies giving the leader of the free world a collective lap dance on national tv. I refuse to watch it, but I wonder if Baba "we find yoo sexy" Wawa asked him about Iran's nukes or "boxers or briefs."

Bob| 8.3.10 @ 10:25AM

Real, thinking, ADULT women gave Bill a pass in the 1990's. Should their flippant overly sexed attitude today be any surprise to you?

Grzmlyk| 8.3.10 @ 4:29PM

I beg to differ: Their dates of birth may have made these women adults, but their understanding of the world was decidedly adolescent.

Remember that the first tenet of liberalism is that one must embrace the world of make-believe (you know, "let's pretend we can erradicate self-interest with good thoughts and coercion;" "let's predend that government programs really help the poor;" "Let's pretend that liberal cliches count more than actual behavior").

It is a sina qua non of liberalism to view the world as a child views the world (unless, of course, you're one of the crooks who exploits the "children").

I worked in a female-centric industry during most of the Clinton years (high tech PR). Believe me, you could search every cublicle far and wide and be hard-pressed to come up with a single adult.

In addition, remember how peer pressure, belonging to the "in" group is all that matters in junior high school? Well, liberalism is the argot of groupthink in what passes for the adult world.

Oh, one more thing: most of the women in my office thought Slick Willie was sexy, and what better qualification for president can a Democrat have?

I mean, have you SEEN Barack's pecs?

Pete| 8.3.10 @ 10:22AM

The liberal "street cred" of publicly pandering to that idiOt I am sure was well worth the shame for those ladies.

scotchieguy| 8.3.10 @ 10:37AM

I recently saw Christie for the first time on ABC sunday morning show and he was mighty impressive...just a tell-it-like-it is, non-BS guy. A man for our times. I loved the way he told off that teacher...I've seen the video many times. The contrast between Christie and Barry is striking. One guy is 100% full of straight forward common sense, and the other guy is 100% full of sh*t. What a country. The one time we needed a true leader as the economy headed for the rocky shore, and we end up w/ this fool. I guess we really get the leaders we deserve.

Mormon Girl| 8.3.10 @ 1:44PM

Christie is too fat. Romney is handsome, articulate and in great physical shape therefore Mitt will have more appeal to women voters. Obama won 56% of the female vote so can Romney.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:47PM

All the more evidence that Mormons are very very stupid.

Carpenter| 8.3.10 @ 9:13PM

I wonder what your reaction would be to a man who said something like that about a woman candidate.

rjh| 8.3.10 @ 11:16AM

"Though people have turned against his policies, Obama remains a reasonably popular president."

I am so tired of silly statements like this. I refuse to believe that anyone with any sense can "like" such a shallow, narcissistic, liar. It is just not possible. Perhaps they do not want to appear racist to the pollsters.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 12:18PM

speaking of race, can we all just come out and say that the ONLY reason Obamas approval rating is above 30% is because he has a 95% approval rating from black Americans?

He's Jimmy Carter with a tan: that's it. And it won't help this fall or in 2012

David| 8.3.10 @ 11:28AM

NJ Mike, thanks for that information. If you accurately described what Christie said about things such as immigration and Obamacare, that should bust a whole lot of bubbles out there.

We need to be very, very careful and choose the most conservative candidates at all levels of government.

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 8.3.10 @ 11:32AM

Whether or not any of us should lose weight will shortly become moot. Last night the Continuous Commodity Index closed at $503.29 which is a top since I began tracking it last February 5. According to the CRB website [http://www.crbtrader.com/crbindex/data.asp], this is $89.88 more than a year ago, indicating an overall inflation rate of 21.741%. This index tracks various commodities such as metals, textiles, foodstuffs and livestock. In short, things people use, unlike the gum’mint’s cost of living index which no longer counts such items, since the law of supply and demand will not obey tiny timmy or helicopter benny. On top of that, last June 4, the number of people in the U.S. Work Force, according to the National Debt Clock peaked at 140,658,480. Since that day, through NYSE close yesterday, OUR Work Force has declined by 2,177,814 workers. In the meantime, the population has increased by 464,809 people, the number of Federal employees has gone up by 6,782 and the number of mouths being fed by foodstamps has leaped by 774,314. Back at OUR Nation’s Bank, the GDP has increased by 0.431% while obummer’s debt has grown by 1.768% and the 2010 Deficit has grown by 0.430%. Yesterday, the Debt:GDP ratio was 90.7697377%. Even the lord of flies’ most fanatical fans should be somewhat concerned by this, unless they are in agreement with his no-longer-hidden agenda to change OUR Country into a third world famine plagued nation.
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Don’t Tread on Me.
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“This is one of those cases in which the imagination is baffled by the facts.” - Adam Smith
Only 901 days to go

Dagny Taggert| 8.3.10 @ 2:29PM

Gill, don't sweat the CCI. Your inflation number is ridiculous, because you fail to recognize that the energy component is less of an input than precious metals. (http://commodities.about.com/od/understandingthebasics/a/cci-index.htm)

The price of energy has much more influence on CPI & PPI than the equal-weigh methodology of this particular index.

Get long GCC (etf) if you think this is worrysome. We need a little inflation right now to pick up the slack in the economy.

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 8.3.10 @ 11:54PM

Actually my inflation number is derived from a fairly standard math formula called “Rate of Change”. If the Input data are correct then the Output will be correct. I did not devise the method the folks at CRB use in order to compute their index. So if you have a complaint, it would be with them, not with me. The key to comparing prices over time must be that the very same commodities be used, at least as closely as possible since some products available then are no longer marketed. I disagree that the numbers are invalidated because one component is more or less of an input than another as long as each was similarly derived and uses items people actually purchase.

You can discount the CRB numbers as you wish; however, I would much rather trust the instincts of a financial sector expert than just another opiner on this forum. In the most recent edition of The Sovereign Investor in his column titled “It’s Open Season on the Dollar Once Again - Time to Sell the World’s Most-Loved Currency”, Sean Hyman, who has been actively trading foreign currencies for many years wrote:

“Against all odds, oil rose yesterday above $81 a barrel yesterday. Copper has been rallying back. The CRB index, which tracks a basket of commodities from oil to grains, has been breaking higher on the charts. Since commodities are priced in dollars, you don’t need an economist to tell you that more-expensive commodities force a cheaper dollar, and a cheaper dollar makes commodities more expensive.”

So, Mr. Hyman evidently uses the CRB numbers in order to understand better how to place his bets trading currencies. As he is quite successful at what he does, I’m willing to give his input a bit more weight than yours.

Having lived through the Carter years, I really doubt that inflation is a beneficial economic goal. True, there is the theory that if I should borrow $100 today at a fixed rate, thanks to inflation I might only have to repay the equivalent of $99 using today’s value, thus saving a dollar. The problem with this theory is that if my other expenses have increased a dollar, I only break even. If the interest rate in my savings account doubles from 1% to 2%, while at the same time my cost to borrow increases from 3% to 4%, I’m not suddenly in a position to be invited to Chelsea’s wedding, or buy a chicken thigh and potato at some politician’s fund raising banquet. If the price of a loaf of bread jumps by a quarter, and I’m scraping by on a fixed income, I probably will not appreciate that someone else made a profit. Since yesterday, 10,094 workers are no longer part of OUR workforce, 116 folks have taken tax-payer funded federal employment, 7,953 more people have been added to the population count and 10,085 additional sets of teeth can now dine thanks to the Food Stamps program. Interesting how the lost worker and the Food Stamps changes are almost identical, don’t you think?

Inflation aside, I doubt that losing jobs at a greater rate than the population is growing is a good thing. For my part, I worry about just where the new folks are going to get jobs since I really doubt they are all migrant farm workers.

And congratulations to the Citizens of my adopted state. The last I heard the proposition on today's primary ballot to allow Show-me Staters to opt out of obummercare was passing by about a 3-1 margin. It makes no difference that this initiative might not stand in kourt, as it at least pokes a finger in the eyes of kommie traitors like bury beavisbud, claire mcnumbskull and rusty karniemon for the good people they falsely claim to represent have taken a big step towards showing them and their progressive puppetmasters the door. I feel like dancing the Missouri Waltz.

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Only 901 days to go.

David| 8.3.10 @ 11:48AM

Just before the election in 2012, Bam Bam is going to do a couple of things that a lot of people are going to like, including many of us. He does not have to move more than a few percentage points to get elected again.

And, I think he is probably going to make a switch that the media will endlessly proclaim is an absolutley brilliant move and proves what a capable leader the boy is: I believe he is going to make Biden Sec of State and Hillary his VP running mate.

I am afraid the conservatives have no room for error, especially with the media unashamedly promoting the dems. I can actually see Bam Bam back in office in 2013, with a repub house and senate. Voters were very satisfied with Clinton and a repub congress, and Bam Bam will remind the voters of that every time he speaks. We have an uphill battle.

Nevertheless, God is in control, and may His Will be done.

Steve A| 8.3.10 @ 11:51AM

Gill, Your facts speak for themselves but the BO disciples could care less. The guy was elected by emotion based feelers, not logical thinkers. The honeymoon is clearly over for them as he has not lived up to their self projections & his failed experiment shall be a brief stain on the USA's continued march to exceptionalism.

gypsy| 8.3.10 @ 12:21PM

Steve, your point is well taken, but BHO was elected by independent voters because they thought he would fix the economy. He has done everything BUT dothat, and the independents hate almost everything else he has done; and they can remember, even if the Kool Aid drinkers cannot

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 8.3.10 @ 12:28PM

I suspect so long as the incompetent won keeps doing unto us as James "ruff n'" Ready does unto bunny fwank his several fans will remain more than willing to drop their soap in his showers.
Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
gill.Oteen07041776@gmail.com
“Love has the power of making you believe what you would normally treat with the deepest suspicion.” - attributed to ‘Mirabeau’
Only 901 days to go.

John II| 8.3.10 @ 12:04PM

Professor Obama has always been a caricature of himself, but things may have reached a point where his self-idolization undercuts all efforts at lampooning. In that regard, the Professor is indeed "ahead of the curve"--the bell curve of moral imbecility, that is. All further efforts at mockery should be remembered by our progeny as supreme acts of perseverance.

Alan Brooks| 8.3.10 @ 12:10PM

Obama is an empty suit. He has made promises left and but never followed up on them. Chris Christie is a man of action who doesn't mince words.

Bob Putter| 8.3.10 @ 5:59PM

Christie minces meat and too much of it. No wonder he's so fat.

Tim| 8.3.10 @ 12:25PM

A radical Harvard Scholar who grew up in the hood and then goes back to the hood post Harvard to use the vast poverty and civil unrest as a spring board to the seat of power.

Sounds a lot like the intellectuals in 1917 Russia
minus the massive killings of their political enemies.

Paul Davis| 8.3.10 @ 12:30PM

Obama is the Devil.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:48PM

You seriously believe that Mary was a virgin?

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:49PM

And that Moses, put 2 of ever animal on a arc? How can any rational person argue with such stupidity?

Willis| 8.3.10 @ 7:39PM

Please note, no one is arguing with you.

carnot| 8.3.10 @ 10:40PM

that's actually pretty funny!!! kudos!

Steve A| 8.3.10 @ 12:34PM

Gypsy, Great point. Bo's only hope is to reel them back in with a false promise to get deficit under wraps by hiking taxes on rich. If the independents can see thru the tired class warfare rhetoric & the Conservatives hold the line, we are headed back in the right direction shortly.

Titus Pullo| 8.3.10 @ 1:07PM

I think Governor Christie is AWESOME! What I don't get is why is he the only Republican or otherwise-Non-Leftist that seems to be able to put the Unions in their Place. The Union stranglehold on the Department of Education is what keeps the Liberal in doctrinaires in the classrooms erasing America's greatness in the hearts and minds of our children every day of the week. I hope the backlash is Nation-wide this November and this time we have to unravel years of damage the Left have done to this country and its institutions. Take back the schools and TEACH AMERICAN HISTORY in its proper context, GM and Chrysler each get a BILL for the Billions they owe to force them to restructure and cut the Unions out for good. EXPOSE the various attempts by the left to curve free speech for what they actually are...Glenn Back cannot be the only voice exposing this stuff. We need respected voices in media to come out against Government free-speech grabs. And, push to remove outdated/unneeded regulation and remove TRIBAL politics of group preference that has exploded TEN FOLD Under this Administration.

Cuffs| 8.3.10 @ 1:07PM

Thank you, Ralph.
You mention the only thing that matters about
Obama. He is a liar. He never ever stops lying.
In the immortal words of my sister-in-law, "Every time I see him on TV, I could vomit."
A bold, insightful and intelligent reaction.

CantGetRight| 8.3.10 @ 1:44PM

When are republicans going to stop the crying and start looking inward? They defend the rich at the expense of this countries middle class and poor and you people give them a free pass. Difficult deciesions were made and your represitives sat on the bench and now you want more of them in the game. For what? You can't oint to one good thing that came from them being in power.

Mimi| 8.3.10 @ 2:29PM

Thank God they were there! They honored their OATH, to follow the CONSTITUTION! They fought the Liberal-Lefts Socialism with "NO" votes over and over. When they take over after the Nov. election get used to these words...REPEAL, DE-FUND, INVESTIGATE. LIBERTY and this phrase....READ THE BILLS!!! After the destruction and harm done by the "O" I believe they will work day and far into the night to RESTORE our country.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:51PM

"READ THE BILLS" -- the recently passed healthcare bill was co-written by a republican. Have you read the bill, or do you still think that there are "death panels" because someone on TV who hasnt read the bill told you so.

bahmi| 8.12.10 @ 8:01PM

Yeah, a RINO Republican. You call the 2 kinky women from Maine republicans? How about the closet republican, Scott Brown? Lindsey Dumpster from south Carolina? Martin, don't you realize that we are not represented by our representatives these days? They represent the MI complex, huge money, and massive political power. Nihilists like you are content with anybody who's black and thinks he's the Messiah, mere means to assuage your guilt.

Judean Peoples Front| 8.3.10 @ 3:03PM

Roads.

Killerian| 8.3.10 @ 3:51PM

What kind of keyboard do you have?

Steve A| 8.3.10 @ 1:53PM

Hey CantGetRight, Take your Dad's laptop & browse around Webster's Dictionary for a few years & get back to me.

Martin| 8.3.10 @ 6:52PM

Fuck off you idiot.

carnot| 8.3.10 @ 10:42PM

9.5% and climbing

Bob Putter| 8.3.10 @ 2:19PM

That Reply fellow has a point. If physical appearance decided an election Obama would beat Christie with 70% of the vote.

Steve A| 8.3.10 @ 2:29PM

What's up with all of the man crushes on Obama here?? To me, he reminds me of the guy in HS who thought he was better than everyone else, talked a big game & got his ass kicked by the quiet kid.

Mimi | 8.3.10 @ 2:41PM

Heh Steve...He reminds me of Eddie Haskell ...Slick!!

Sam| 8.3.10 @ 2:32PM

Mr. Disgusting (a.k.a. BHO) can give himself an A++ for arrogance.

Joe| 8.3.10 @ 3:58PM

Christie would get savaged by the media and the com-medias (John Stewart, Bill Maher, Etc) for being too fat. Its all you'll hear if he tried to run. Guaranteed.

Clinton nee Publius| 8.3.10 @ 4:00PM

Nobody should be surprised. I mean, we are talking about liberals here, so accountability standards have to change so they can act like they are as good as the rest of us. Before 2009 we never heard of "saved jobs" - like "saved sunlight" you can't prove it exists or not. It's what you use for a crutch when what you are doing doesn't work and you want to avoid accountability.

But Mr. Obama is finding out you can only tell so many lies before people tire of actual results. Americans invariably vote their wallets. In Mr. Bush's first term he had gains in mid-term elections because his policies were showing real progress away from the recession that marked the end of the Clinton era. Obama has had the same opportunity and by any (objective) measurement he has failed to demonstrate a viable economic policy. He has only demonstrated that he can use the people's money to support an increasingly corrupt and hated ruling class that is facing the prospect of having their days end in the near-term window. The mid-terms will be the first step. I think the Senate will hold, but without a filibuster-proof majority, Mr. Obama will not be making policy, the Republicans will. I think the loss of the House is now a foregone conclusion. Mr. Obama squandered his power opportunity in favor of enrichment of his allies. They will be mollified by the economic largess he produced for them, but they will not be a large enough group to sustain the power base.

Next spring will be the true end. Once the House comes into session the committee chairs will change and there will be hearings and there will be special prosecutors and all of it will come to a shuttering halt. Mr. Obama could even face the specter of impeachment if the Sestak bribery case goes forward (after all, Jim Messina didn't wake up one morning and decide to commit a felony all by himself - he answers to only two people and one of them is the Chief Of Staff and the other is the President).

We have to survive this fall. It will be a terrible winter and the recession will be even worse, but by the spring we might be able to turn things around by severely reducing spending and spurring investment with permanent cuts to capital gains tax rates. Until then, you have to hope that somehow you can survive. Like you, I doubt I can do it, but I will try to find a way.

Mimi| 8.3.10 @ 5:58PM

G reat post.... I'm thinking the economy will take off fast and furious with just the rumor that their POWER will be snipped. After Nov. , people will start buying, and hiring and look foward to better times. I hope!!!

David| 8.3.10 @ 4:00PM

Yep, Bam Bam is very dangerous. I can't understand how his poll numbers are as good as they are especially after he sued Arizona. What flippin' arrogance.

The repubs ought to be making lots of noise about how Obama, the dems, and the liberal judges have just emboldened the MEXICAN drug cartels to the point that they now feel free to openly offer a million dollars to kill an AMERICAN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. Repubs should be screaming about it through the election and until the time the immigration issue is resolved.

Sheriff Joe, please, please call a huge prime time press conference. Tease the liberal stations into covering it by having your office leak something
about "retirement" or "wanting to spend more time with your family". You know the leftist media, leftists everywhere, and the illegals will be creaming their jeans at such a possibility.

Then, Sheriff Joe, in prime time, you should look into the camera and publicly speak to Obama, the Dems, and Judge Bolton, and DEMAND that Obama provide you and all of your family members with exactly the same protection the prez and his family has. "You, Mr. President, have emboldened and provided cover for the drug cartels to the point that they think they can OPENLY AND WITHOUT FEAR hire murderers to kill Americans - even its law enforcement officers - and get away with it. Mr President, if anything happens to me or anyone in my family, I ask all Americans to hold you personally responsible because of your incredible arrogance with its disregard for the rights of Arizonans and all Americans.

Does anyone else like it?

Thanks a lot you flippin' leftist morons, and also to the 52% who voted this flippin' moron baby murderer.

canuckistani| 8.3.10 @ 4:44PM

Forget the leftist morons you allude to, Arizona's crime has gone DOWN, both property and violent crime. Now Brewer and her gang of idiots have made Phoenix a lightning rod for race-baiters. Business does not like ambiguity, they will walk.
Interestingly, Obama has deported illegals at a faster pace than Junior or RR.
Face facts, the monster under your bed is you!
As for baby killing: Junior did not push for a ban, and he had the perfect conditions to do so. If you missed the target with him, what hope to you have getting an electable candidate ever again unless you tone down the rhetoric and think with your brain?

carnot| 8.3.10 @ 10:44PM

9.5% and climbing

EMILY| 8.5.10 @ 5:53PM

THANKS DAVID FOR A VERY COHERENT POST. I FOUND THE MANY COMMENTS ENTERTAINING AND MANY INSIGHTFUL...AS EXPECTED, THE LIBERALS EXPOSED THEMSELVES FOR THE FOOLS/IDOLATERS THEY ARE. GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC.

David | 8.3.10 @ 4:05PM

With regard to the fat issue, if Christie is fair game, then I think Michelle's butt, which has been off limits, should also be fair game.

Joe| 8.3.10 @ 4:12PM

That thing is massive. I actually think David Axelrod has been caught up in its gravitational pull.....Anyway, who better to chastise our children for not being skinny than the First Lady?

klepinski| 8.3.10 @ 4:15PM

I think you are quoting Chico and not Groucho Marx. Chico said, in the exaggerated Italian accent "Who you gonna believe? Me or your owna eyes"

Peter| 8.3.10 @ 4:23PM

Too bad more Republicans aren't willing to speak to the public like adults and simply outline the issues and our policy choices. These have all come down to basic Jr. HS math and not hard to articulate.

The bigger related concern is one that Democrats have successfully outlined, ie that Republicans have put forth no plan or agenda of their own, no specific goals or a way to reach them, no ideas about how they put forth reasonable policies and obtain the support they will need from the public and Democrats in Congress.

While it's great that they may be able to stop any additional Obamanations going forward, HC and the Financial Regs. bills have been passed and regulatory agencies are beginning to write the rules that will impact the nation for many many years ahead. Republicans talk about repealing or refining but they may not have the power to do so and seem prepared to just continue arguing for the next two years should they win the mid-terms while they wait until 2012.

The American people deserve better, from both parties. Let's hope Republicans start to get the message, because so far it appears that like Democrats in 2006 and 2008 they are only gaining traction because the other guys are despised more than they are. That indicates a lack of vision and leadership and may suggest an inability to govern over the longer term.

canuckistani| 8.3.10 @ 4:51PM

The only saving grace for America is that individuals do precisely what you suggest on their own.
As long as we permit open season on politicians with money and lobbying, you will continue to get equivocating, ambiguous, unreliable candidates.
Our flaw is that spin works, if it didn't, it would not be the fastest growing industry in America.
A good example is FNC interview of Angle where she said the media should ask what we want to answer. The reporter did not effectively follow-up the question. Thus, job not done, ambiguity wins and the opposition has more meat to feed on. Lazy.

valwayne| 8.3.10 @ 4:44PM

There is no doubt that Obama thinks well of himself. And if you're a radical left wing extemist you certainly have to admire his dedication to his extreme left wing ideology, and his success at cramming it down the throats of the American people. For the rest of us not so much!!!

canuckistani| 8.3.10 @ 4:58PM

I won't vote for him, but what exactly are you talking about?
HCR: was elected on it and we accomplished a near backtrack on his pledge.
CIR: Graham and McCain sponsored the damn bill, now he has a lightning rod issue in Arizona to excite the base
Iraq: campaigned on it and is following the pentagon's lead
Afghan: campaigned on it and has followed the pentagon's lead
TARP: not him
Stimulus: campaigned on it and vast majority of GOP districts took the cash
Financial reform: gutted (check Goldman stock price in run up)
Oil spill: got a $20B fund when GOP-ers were falling over themselves to duck the microphone.

He's crammed very little down American throats, so far, and we have no plan at all as a solution.

carnot| 8.3.10 @ 10:47PM

yawn.

9.5% and climbing

bahmi| 8.12.10 @ 8:11PM

Narcissists had chaotic upbringing in families that lacked necessary emotional supplies. Obama is overtly a fatheaded blowhard, but down inside has great self acceptance problems. He hated his mother and had a weirdo father, whoever that was. He has troubles with his origins, he does not know who he is but acts like some sort of ideologue substitution sock puppet.

eagles4ever| 8.3.10 @ 5:37PM

My first trip in here as I heard there was some interesting conservative/libertarian opinion pieces.

The articles seem OK, but nothing particularly new and insightful.

This comment section, though, is quite horrid and sophopmoric. A hate-filled echo chamber. What do you all do with your lives with all the hate you have?

This is no way to go forward. Come up with alternatives. I haven't seen any above (other than some rather scary suggestions involving illegal acial activiies to overthrow the government. You should all be ashamed to call yourselves Americans!

And the most vitriolic of you above apparently need to get a job, given all the free time you seem to have in the middle of the work day to play with yourselves.

Or maybe you are all on social security (and public health care) with nothing better to do than complain about the government. Hypocrites!

With citizens like you, America doesn't need enemies!

canuckistani| 8.3.10 @ 6:01PM

Keep joining in.
It is a good respite from the spin zones that exist on both peripheries.
There's a few that actually understand incrementalism has always won the day in America.

carnot| 8.3.10 @ 10:48PM

9.5% and climbing

EMILY| 8.5.10 @ 6:03PM

TO YOU, EAGLE4EVER: YOU ARE OH-SO-MUCH-SMARTER THAN THE REST OF US! NO DOUBT YOU ARE A LIMP-WRISTED ,LEFT LEANING, ABOVE-THE-FRAY SNOB. YOU SOUND LIKE AN ARROGANT ELITEST PIG ......WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO PUT DOWN ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN FROM WHATEVER WALK OF LIFE DIMINISHING THEIR OPINIONS?.

Martin Treptow| 8.3.10 @ 5:50PM

Not to get off the subject, but I wanted to tell y'all about a little exercise I did this morning. There was a graphic that was posted to an article that I read somewhere (CNN.com? I don't remember exactly) that broke down the per capita dollar responsibility of the residents of individual states for their home states' current debt. The states that had the heaviest per capita responsibility (the highest ones were over $4000 per person!) were colored dark red in the graphic, and the states with lower per capita debt got progressively lighter, etc. I am proud to say that my home state of Nebraska was the lowest in the land, at $15 per citizen in debt! Anyway, if you go to realclearpolitics.com and overlay the 2010 electoral map with the "debt map", it perfectly matches Blue States with high debt states! With virtually no exception, the states that are still in the hands of the Democrats are the ones who have been fiscally run into the ground. Conversely, our beloved Red States are relatively healthy. Coincidence? I think not! My point being: the "revolution" in this country is going to be of the "ground up" variety. It is going to start in the Governor's Mansions and in the Statehouses. And, just like in the 1850's, there will be a confrontation between the federal and the local.

noneofyourbusiness| 8.3.10 @ 7:25PM

You know what they say about statistics....And you are relying on CNN (I would have thought that would verge on sacreligious on here -- not Fox News??). Do you believe everything you read there?? Or only what you want to believe that fits with your beliefs?? Think man and ask questions!

I don't know what sort of funny number CNN was playing with, but if you believe Nebraska's per capita state debt is only $15 you are in fantasyland.

The national debt clock
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
indicates that Wyoming has the lowest debt to GDP ratio in the country, at 9.6%. Wyoming has had a Democratic governor for the past 8 years. So by your logic....

Now back to misusing statistics, and how one alone tells you nothing (lest you think I am guilty of not asking questions). Wyoming is also the number one recipient of federal government aid on a per capita basis.

Kentucky has the highest debt to GDP ratio (middlish of the pack in federal aid). While it does have a Democratic governor, Kentucky is hardly a liberal bastion like Massachussetts. Speaking of which -- Massachussetts is #3 in debt/gdp ratio (after South Carolina -- Republican Governor and pretty much a Republican state for 35 years, middlish-lower in federal aid). Sure, has a De. as Governor now, and is notoriously liberal, but hey, Mitch Romney, and inspirer of the new national health care plan -- the Republicans front runner in Presidential preference polling on that side -- was Governor for 8 years until 3 years back, and Republicans held the Governorship going back to 1991 with William Weld. Lower end in federal aid.

Other top 10 recipients of federal aid include the Republic of Alaska (Palin - R), Lousiana (Jindal (R), Mississippi (Barbour - R), North Dakota (Hoeven - R), Rhode Island (Carcieri - R), Vermont (Douglas - R).

And we could go on forever with this fun with numbers. Point is, some fact checking, independent analysis, cross-checking with other statistics and thinking for yourself would be most useful.

Cheers!

Martin Treptow| 8.3.10 @ 7:50PM

First, thank you for responding directly to my post. Second, I wasn't referring to the states' share of the $13T National Debt, I was referring to the per capita share of the individual states' residents of their own states (essentially the total state budget deficit divided by the number of residents of that state) I wasn't referring in any way, shape, matter or form to the relationship between individual states and their Federal Master. So, while I appreciate the sage wisdom about "thinking for myself", I would offer you similar advice: Read My Post.

P.S. Republic of Alaska? Really?

noneofyourbusiness| 8.3.10 @ 8:15PM

First, you obviously completely missed the point. I'm surprised you didn't call me out for the oversight in not noting that Sean Parnell is now the Governor of Alaska and not Palin. Anyhoooow...

Second, you switched in your first post from referencing state debt to referencing state deficit in your second (the latter refers to yearly spending over revenues, while the former refers to the accumulation of annual deficits).

Finally, I was not talking about the states' share of the national debt at all. And, indeed, I didn't even speak to Nebraska. I was speaking about the debt to GDP ratio of individual states.

Please see here for a complete list of STATE debt to STATE GDP ratios

http://www.usgovernmentspendin....._debt_rank

Nebraska, as you can see, has the 10th highest ratio. This is the critical ratio, as it tells you what states can afford. Nebraska is one of the better states in terms of absolute debt per capita (top 10 give or take) at give or take $2,000 (I could only get 2007 stats which showed about $1,600 per capita, so adjust that up for the last 3 years given the troubles we've had).

If you have debts of $2,000 and an income of just $10,000, you are in far deeper trouble than me if I have debts of $5,000 but an income of $50,000.

And if we are going to throw all sorts of other stats into this in some sort of a silly red/blue pissing match, which appears to be your intent in the original post, then you better look at a whole bunch of stats as to federal government AID (transfers to support state spending on, e.g., welfare and Medicaid, which I was referring to), poverty rates, state welfare benefit rates, education levels, home ownership, etc..., etc..., etc...For that you need to ask questions of your STATE masters, many of whom are Republicans in the worse off states when everything is rolled up and analyzed.

So you can tax and spend your way to better short term results at the risk of long-term disaster, or you can have low taxes, few benefits and public services and a low quality of life and still be on the road to ruin. Pick your poison.

Cheers!

Martin Treptow| 8.3.10 @ 7:56PM

I'm sorry, I can't resist...

Let's play a game. We will each name a state with a catastrophic budget deficit. I get the "Liberal Bastions", you get every the so-called Red States. First one to ten states wins.

I'll go first.
California

(And Arnold is a RINO at best and they haven't had a solid R in Sacramento since Ronnie and Nancy packed up and moved East, so stop it, already)

Cheers!

noneofyourbusiness| 8.3.10 @ 9:09PM

LOL -- I think our posts above crossed as when I posted my response to your previous your afterthought popped up as posted.

First, I posted a link to state debts. Nebraska is number 10. Debt to GDP ratio is the really important metric as it shows the longer term, or “structural” extent of the problem. Yearly deficits don’t tell us much. E.g., I might lose my job for a year, in which case my expenditures for that year compared to my income will look pretty bad. But I may own a house and have two cars and have some savings and mutual funds and other investments. The next year I get another $100,000 job. Assuming my bank didn’t foreclose on my mortgage at the first sign of trouble, I will look to be in good shape. I just had a bad year.

Of course, most states and the federal government, have many consecutive bad years.

Second, the debt doesn’t necessarily tell the whole story. As I suggested above, a good number of the states who look better on this metric of debt depend heavily on federal aid for welfare, Medicaid, etc. As such, you need to look at deeper issues of “quality of life”. Many African countries have very low (relatively) per capita debts and deficits, but I imagine you would not like to live in any of them, or in the conditions of many of them.

Third, even on the metric of debt to GDP ratio alone, I think you will find that reds and blue states are about as bad as one another (check the stats I provided). On deficits for the current year, the following are expected to be in the worst shape this year:

California, Oklahoma, Arizona, Illinois, Hawaii, New Jersey, New York, Nevada, Colorado, Michigan, Florida.

Now you can call Arnold a Rhino and dismiss him, and Christ isn’t really a real Republican either, and Gibbons just got bounced in his own party’s primary so that says all you need to know, and say Christie and Brewer just took power from wasteful D’s, and Lingle in Hawaii doesn’t count either, but that cuts the other way too in states with D governors down the list. (or Oklahoma at #2 now with an R legislature).

Complicating things all the more, as I suggested earlier, is the fact that many of the states with a red or blue governor (and/or red or blue legislatures) are not what we would normally considered red or blue states. So how do you make sense of that?

Not by oversimplifying the issue. Quite clearly the national and state politics are quite different, as many red states nationally are quite blue at the state level (although not so much vice-versa -- R’s only hold 16 state legislatures as far as I can figure, and D’s control state legislatures in about 12 states that I would, subjectively, consider more naturally conservative, at least at the federal level).

So there are my numbers and thinking. Where is your research?

Cheers!

Martin Treptow| 8.4.10 @ 11:17AM

I think the debt vs. GDP measurement doesn't go to the heart of the point that I'm trying to make. Additionally, the phrase "percentage of GDP" always seems to be invoked as a means of justifying some new spending proposal, be it at the state of federal level. So, I tried something a little simpler, a little more current, that I think goes to the heart of my point. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the mid-year FY2010 (i.e. March, 2010 in most states)budget shortfalls as a percentage of that state's total budget (and, as such, should answer the question about a state's relative ability to pull itself out of a deficit). The states with the lowest percentage of mid-year shortfall are: Wyoming, South Dakota, West Virginia, Arkansas, Nebraska, Indiana, Texas, Tennessee, Ohio, Kentucky... it took me until #11 to get to what I'm sure we can agree is a "Blue State", Michigan. And while MI might rank nicely here, is there much doubt that Granholm has managed the Wolverine State poorly?
On the other hand, the Bottom Eight, from the worst up: Arizona, California, Nevada, Illinois, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Oregon And while NV and AZ could be considered Red States, they have both been devastated by the collapse of the housing market like no other. (Thanks, Senator Dodd) My overall contention is, while everyone is distracted with whether the GOP is going to take over the House, the Senate, or both, the most significant development is the change in the Statehouses and the Governor's Mansions. (Realclearpolitics has projected as high as 37 GOP Governorships recently, and many state legislatures will follow) And what will happen is our first real Constitutional crisis in 150 years. The states will go to the courts and to referendums to give the legal equivalent of the middle finger to this incredible overreach by the federal government under President Obama. Missouri fired the first shot last night. Democratic power is highly concentrated and localized. Come November, regardless of how Congress looks, 85+% of the land area of this country is going to be as red as Memorial Stadium in my hometown on a football saturday.

David| 8.3.10 @ 5:52PM

Canuckistani, what do you mean by forget the leftist morons. Who do you think is wreaking the havoc on our nation right now? It's Bam Bam and the leftists.

As to your comment that "crime in Arizona has gone down" ............uh.............don't you think it would be even lower if many of the illegals were not also there committing crimes? If my math or logic is in err, please tell me how.

As to your claim that Bam Bam has been deporting illegals at a faster rate than Bush and Reagan, please take note of the reporting that was just done yesterday. While Bam Bam may have deported more in 2008, the number of deportations was way down in 2009. Check the ICE website. They have the number for many years.

As to Bam Bam being a baby murderer, you said "junior did not push for a ban and he had the perfect conditions to do so". What the f_ck does that mean?!!!

Bam Bam is for all abortions any time. Bush signed the ban against partial birth abortion that Congress passed numerous times and that Clinton vetoed. Bush signed it into law, and it spent years in the courts because of Elena Kagan's manipulation of the AMA. That grotesque procedure was finally pronounced the law of the land. Now Bam Bam wants to repeal it. One of the boy's first acts as president was to repeal the Mexico City Policy, which was in place to forbid the funding of abortion in other countries. And now Bam Bam and the leftists are trying to force Kenya into adopting a constitution that allows for abortions any time when Kenya's current laws and the will of its people allow for abortion only if the life of the mother is in danger. Oh yea, Hilly and Biden have been over there saying that if they will adopt the baby killing constitution, money from other countries (I am sure they mean America) will begin flowing into their country.

This is a war Canuckstani, no need to town down the rhetoric - it's time to turn it up.

Because of the race baiters on the left and Bam Bam, a f_cking foreign cartel thinks they can openly and fearlessly call for the murder for hire of an American law officer.

You don't have a problem with that???!!!

Your boy Bam Bam, the blind, the naiive, the ignorant, the moron, set the tone for that type of threat to be made against one of our own - and someone who is somewhat of an icon because Sheriff Joe is a no-nonsense enforcer of the law.

canuckistani| 8.3.10 @ 6:13PM

He isn't my boy.
The point is we've gotten to this place through years of moving forward and backward through the political minefields.
If we don't recognize that the 2006 shellacking is non partisan, we are doomed to repeat it.
I want social policy out of the GOP platform. Period. The party has been consumed with a false litmus test for social purity and we time and again fail to recognize that politicians - ALL of them - are in it for themselves. The reason is, they have to be, because 1)the job sucks,2)the pay sucks, and 3) the American people have the attention span of a three-year-old.
If we marry abortion opposition to other Christian tenets, then we should be proponents of free healthcare, forgiveness of transgressions, and shutting down talk of repealing the 14th. We won't, so the hypocrisy has to stop.
We did the same thing when Junior held up funding to Africa for the opposite reasons. We are both guilty of politicizing aid to people that don't even come near to the life and security we enjoy. We should be ashamed to call ourselves followers of Christ with our duplicitous behaviors.

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$| 8.4.10 @ 12:52AM

You want social issues out of the GOP platform. Why not out of the dumb-ocrat’s while you’re at it?

I don’t really care what your opinion about butchering babies is. For me it is the first litmus test I apply in deciding whether or not I will vote for any candidate. Quite simply if one claims to be ‘pro-choice’ which in plain English means ‘kill kids’, then there is absolutely no way he or she will get my support. Character matters, and anyone who would murder an innocent child for the crime of not yet being born has none. And just in case you missed the news, when obummer was a lowly sin-eater in Illinois on two occasions he voted to deny infants, who by some miracle survived a doctor’s attempts to snatch their brains out of their mother’s wombs, life saving medical care because in his expert opinion those lives were inconvenient. This alleged Constitutional scholar somehow overlooked that the moment they escaped the confines of mummy’s tummy they were U.S. Citizens. Contemplate that for a bit. The fraud we have stupidly allowed to usurp control of our health and well being thinks there is nothing wrong with allowing Americans to die simply because he finds their existence an irritation. And you don’t think this matters?

And note to Martin, Moses had nothing to do with the ark. His only nautical experience came when his Mother hid him in a basket on the river, though in the King James Version of Exodus that basket is called an ark. I’m not sure if dividing the waters counts since he did not float upon them at that time. And as far as the actual Captain of the Ark is concerned, it is established conjecture that Noah did not take the Unicorns and Dinosaurs, possibly because they were too concerned with the latest gossip about Lindsay Lohan to notice that it had started raining and did not hear his “All aboard!”

Gill O’Teen ✝✡$
Don’t Tread on Me.
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“Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.” - Jeremiah 1:5
Only 900 days to go.

Tim*| 8.3.10 @ 6:02PM

You're Here Unemployed Lecturing Dork .

Proud Mormon| 8.3.10 @ 6:30PM

It's easy as 1-2-3
1 Mitt wins Iowa
2 Mitt wins New Hampshire
3 Mitt wins GOP nomination

Gov. Christie would be a good second choice if he loses AT LEAST 50 pounds.

canuckistani| 8.3.10 @ 6:33PM

The GOP nominate two yankees?

nope.

Proud Mormon| 8.3.10 @ 6:40PM

Ticket: W/Cheney, W born and raised in New England and Cheney born in Nebraska and raised in Wyoming...technically Yankees.

Tim*| 8.3.10 @ 10:18PM

W.was born in New Haven but raised in Midland & Houston and then in 10th grade boarded at Phillips Academy in Andover , Massachusetts .

RCV| 8.3.10 @ 7:22PM

Romney couldn't carry Iowa in 2008 despite massive spending. What makes you think 2012 will be any different?

rjh| 8.3.10 @ 8:46PM

Romney is damaged goods: Massachusetts health care system.

FeralCat| 8.4.10 @ 1:08AM

Just be glad Obama isn't an MD. If you went to him with chest pain he would prescribe the wrong medicine and when your chest pain got worse he would say it would have gotten even worse still but for his brilliance, so he saved you a lot of pain and you should be grateful and in any case it was all the fault of your previous doctor, Dr. Bush, even though he retired a year and a half ago.

Long Ben| 8.4.10 @ 4:20AM

Love the strait verbage Chris Christie has dolled out to the unrully press and public weal bloated bureaucrats , tremendous set of brass ones this man has. However being from where he is from , he may not be right on the conscience issues . Those issues have not been discussed much in connection with Govenor Christie .

M. Btok| 8.5.10 @ 12:54PM

The reasons why, we must vote out, Establishment Government Representatives, whether they are Left or Right - Incumbent or Candidate!

Make sure they do not belong to any of the Global Elitist Organizations: Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Club of Rome, Skull and Bones, Canadian Council of Chief Executives,
Harvard Elite Players, Goldman Sachs, International Monetary Fund, The United Nations, World Health Organization, World Trade Organization.

The reason we must vote out Establishment Government Representatives whether they are Left or Right, Incumbent or Candidate is explained on this 2 minute News Clip below:

TWO Party Paradyne System News clip:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/.....ra_part_2/

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aelfgyva| 8.5.10 @ 1:09PM

My God, I despise this child in grown-up's attire. I became politically active in '64 and thought, naively at the time, that Lyndon Johnson would go down in my book as the worst president of my life time. Then came Carter. Then came Bubba. Now this. The American electorate has put in office the worst enemy this country has ever had, as he is succeeding in destroying us from within! Thomas Jefferson warned of the dangers of an ignorant electorate, and his fears have come to fruition.

emily| 8.5.10 @ 6:09PM

aelfgyva....my sentiments exactly....I too get physically sick at the sight and/or sound of this fraud. PLEASE MY COUNTRYMEN...remember in NOVEMBER!.

sans| 8.12.10 @ 4:12PM

Cut the crap. You use the 'jobs' issue as if it is Obama's fault. BS. The jobs issue is that there just are not enough jobs for the overpopulation that we are starting to experience, and by bringing green card foreigners in to fill jobs that Americans should have been trained for and had in the first place. Get real and see what is really happening and then you won't have to publish such crap!

Fran Murtha | 8.19.10 @ 4:09PM

Oh honey chile, socialism isn't something one
invests in - it overtakes you, and when it does,
your voting rights are down the tube, and so is
your liberty, your justice and your all. You are
thereafter, a puppet, everything is handled for you, including your low pay, your right to healthcare, in fact you have NO rights.

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