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The Obama Watch
Obama’s Immigration Power Play
What the amnesty memos and the Arizona lawsuit reveal about this administration’s views of immigration enforcement — and the will of the people.
Last week, the Obama administration got Clinton-appointed Judge Susan Bolton to at least temporarily throw out key provisions of Arizona’s immigration law. Within 24 hours came more evidence that they weren’t done eviscerating immigration enforcement yet.
That proof came in the form of an astonishing internal memo outlining ways the United States Citizen and Immigration Services (USCIS) could effectively legalize at least tens of thousands of illegal immigrants even if Congress fails to enact amnesty. Some would be granted resident status with the USCIS simply giving them green cards. Others would be allowed to evade deportation, possibly indefinitely.
“In the absence of Comprehensive Immigration Reform, CIS can extend benefits and/or protections to many individuals and groups by issuing new guidance and regulations,” said the memo, which was prepared by four senior officials from different parts of USCIS for the agency’s director. Two of the memo’s authors are Obama appointees, as is USCIS head Alejandro N. Mayorkas.
Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) made the 11-page document public last Thursday, arguing in a public statement, “This memo gives credence to our concerns that the administration will go to great lengths to circumvent Congress and unilaterally execute a back door amnesty plan.” In June, Grassley and six other senators sent President Obama a letter asking him to deny rumors that his underlings were contemplating amnesty by executive fiat.
Now we have good reason to believe the rumors were true. One proposal contained in the memo was that the USCIS grant “parole in place,” which comes with a work permit and the right to apply for a green card, to various illegal immigrants. Another suggestion was to give “deferred action,” delaying deportation indefinitely and preserving eligibility to apply for a work permit, to illegal aliens who would have benefited from the DREAM Act.
That would be the same DREAM Act, incidentally, that Congress has repeatedly failed to pass, much as it has shot down broader-based amnesty proposals.
Finally, the memos’ authors suggest that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) could simply stop issuing the “notice to appear” letters that begin the deportation process. The only exception would be in cases where the illegal alien is found to have “significant negative immigration or criminal history.”
The exposure of this memo understandably generated controversy, which the administration was eager to tamp down. A hastily issued USCIS statement insisted that the memos were just a draft and that “nobody should mistake deliberation and exchange of ideas for final decisions.”
“To be clear,” the statement continued, “DHS will not grant deferred action or humanitarian parole to the nation’s entire illegal immigrant population.” As the Church Lady used to say, “Well, isn’t that special?”
Even if the memo merely shows mid-level bureaucrats engaging in a brainstorming session about how to undermine the immigration laws they are being paid to uphold, it captures the essence of this administration’s approach to immigration enforcement. Criminal prosecutions of employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants are down and worksite raids have virtually stopped. The DHS official running the Office of Detention and Removal Operations has admitted the administration is, as a matter of policy, trying to avoid arresting illegals.
According to one report, through May administrative arrests were down 81 percent from 2008, criminal arrests down 67 percent, indictments are down 73 percent, and convictions down 75 percent. “I think there have been very few operations that have generated arrests of undocumented workers,” David Venturella, the acting director in charge of such operations, was quoted as saying at an Urban Institute event.
But what about reports that the Obama administration is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants? Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) told the Washington Post that they planned to deport 400,000 people this fiscal year, up 10 percent from 2008 and 25 percent from 2007.
Like their predecessors in the generally lax Bush administration, Obama’s immigration henchmen can be counted on to periodically ratchet up enforcement when doing so will aid the call for “comprehensive immigration reform.” Most of this uptick reflects a recent effort to identify illegal aliens who have committed other crimes.
Yet neither the deportations of criminal aliens nor the ballyhooed audits of companies that hire workers with bogus Social Security numbers really turn off the jobs magnet luring illegal immigrants into this country. Remember: as amnesty advocates are always fond of reminding us, we cannot deport every illegal immigrant in the United States. The main goal of attrition through enforcement is to entice large numbers of illegals to in effect deport themselves.
Focusing on the worst criminals among the illegal population — and relatively light civil fines of employers who flunk their audits — while giving de facto amnesty to everyone else will not reduce the number of illegal immigrants here to a manageable level. It will merely allow the Obama administration to appear tough while actually undermining attrition through enforcement.
States like Arizona have learned that serious immigration enforcement is a dirty job the federal government won’t do — and one that the Obama administration won’t let anyone else perform, either. Even if they must rely on unaccountable federal judges and bureaucrats, it is amnesty or bust, the will of the people and their elected representatives be damned.
About the Author
W. James Antle, III, author of the new book Devouring Freedom: Can Big Government Ever Be Stopped?, is editor of the Daily Caller News Foundation and a senior editor of The American Spectator. You can follow him on Twitter @jimantle.
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Deborah D | 8.2.10 @ 6:29AM
I'm sick to death of the political class giving lip service to immigration enforcement. This administration in particular is so blantantly anti-American and wanting these illegal voters to pull the lever for Obama in 2012 that they'll do just about anything against the will of the American people to assure it. These people must be voted out and thwarted in every way because they don't give a damn about bringing this country down to third world status. Obama = Chavez in my humble opinion.
Bush and Rove were just as bad, but at least they didn't try to sidestep Congress. This "gangster government" (Michael Barone's excellent term) thinks czars and regulations are all they need. Vote them all out.
arlo price| 8.2.10 @ 8:02AM
The obamagedon PIMP thugocracy chugs along.......
"Yo, all yo ho's, john's and biotch's, I be the mac daddy that runs the show, get used to it."
vtwin| 8.2.10 @ 8:51AM
The Author neglected to mention the “Clinton-appointed Judge Susan Bolton “was on the recommendation of U.S. Senator Jon Kyl (Arizona) Republican.
IMKessel| 8.2.10 @ 3:45PM
Mr. Price,
"Amos and Andy" is fortunately off the air. Kingfish is dead.
Your attempt at humor makes all people who post here appear guilty (by association) of racism. The One does indeed play a hard Chicago game of thuggery, but he is a well spoken thug. Give credit where credit is due and post the racist humor for less legitimate sites.
carnot| 8.2.10 @ 5:21PM
cmon now...you should be referring to avoiding the "negro dialect" that "non-racists" like Sen you know who employ!!!
how many dem/lib standards do we have to live with?
John II| 8.2.10 @ 6:49PM
Tim Moore, who played the Kingfish in the early 50's two-year TV version of "Amos 'n' Andy" produced by the Hal Roach studios, is indeed dead, but the series survives in DVD collections. The show was principally cast by a stupendously talented Harlem troupe, and provided early TV access to many talented black performers, including Nick O'Demus, Spencer Williams, Johnny Lee, Amanda Randolph, Alvin Childress, and the magnificent Ernestine Wade, who played the sharp-tongued and long-suffering Sapphire opposite Tim Moore's George ("Kingfish"). (And who, in an interview 30 years after the demise of the show, dismissed the race-hustling critics of the show as silly.)
The shiftless Kingfish, the gullible Andy, and the incomparable and perennially disbarred Algonquin J. Calhoun are among the few truly great comic characters in the checkered history of the TV sit-com, revelatory of universal human foibles. The straight roles (judges, policemen, rich and proper uncles, etc.) were almost all filled by black performers, and many of the white performers were seedy con artists (used car salesmen, get-rich-quick schemers, and the like). None of the jokes and one-liners turned specifically on race, and the unspoken norm was color-blindness long before the term came into use regarding race relations--and long, long before the term became an object of scorn among race hustlers.
So how is it "fortunate" that "Amos 'n' Andy" is off the air? Or do you know what the hell you're talking about?
commonsense247| 8.2.10 @ 8:34PM
The One (term pres) has repeatedly illustrated a penchant for the type of less civilized thuggery Price refers to... flipping off Clinton, using a JayZ shoulder brush off , using language he thinks will endear him to that demographic... a chronic polarity into different personas. To that end, POTUS has made himself fair game to Price's comments.
arlo price| 8.2.10 @ 11:14PM
kessel: wise up!! Oh boo hoo, I've been called a racist. Woe is me. You have it all wrong, it's the dems who are the racist. With charlie and maxine in hot water it is readily apparent that it's the spll / jihadist dhimocrats that are the racist (puhleeze, why wasn't timmy, tom or kathleen posecuted? Maybe cause they are white?).
In my world everyone is the same color - purple with yellow dots!! It is merit that matters to me.
The usurper is nothing more than a PIMP. Both obumbler the PIMP and any other street savvy pimp are pure liars who make their dough by literally and figuratively screwing people. A pimps ho's do not have any rights other then what the PIMP gives them, that sounds a lot like B O and the spll / jihadist dhimocrats doesn't it?
Due to the known character traits of the spll / jihadist dhimocrats, namely: shallow intellect, short-sightedness, ego-maniacal and a complete inability to recognize the truth (much less grasp it), they are unable to see or for want of an unspoken agenda, unable to solve the illegal alien problem. Common sense makes it obvious that if you secure the borders and fine employers who hire illegals and confiscate the property of illegals (as is done with other criminals) you will solve several pressing problems. Unemployment rate would be cut in half and more tax dollars would flow to the treasury simply because American citizens would replace the illegals who currently are not paying income taxes; the violence in Mexico would diminish due to the drug business not being as lucrative (volumetric-ally), the money that was being saved from not being spent on social programs could be used to further strengthen border security.
Well spoken thug? As in "er.....uhhhh.....er", face reality if at all possible, at best B O can read a teleprompter.
Quite frankly, this bloodless coup bores me.....LET'S ROLL!!!
QuoVadisAnima| 8.6.10 @ 12:49PM
arlo price,
Give it a little rational thought & you'll understand why as soon as you start deliberately using racist language, you lose your audience.
Furthermore, you are asking people who do not know you to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are actually a non-racist conservative mimicking racism rather than a trolling liberal plant hoping to generate props for the MSM.
It is not only possible to make your point without resorting to deliberately derogatory & inflammatory language - but it actually will improve the ability of your message to reach more people.
It is also a critical difference that distinguishes conservatives from liberals - one that we should strive to maintain...
Eric Cartman| 8.2.10 @ 8:58AM
The scumbag Democrats will stoop to whale crap level to ruin the U.S. But the stupid GOP looks like Moe, Larry and Curly fixing plumbing. With so much at stake and with the American people - not the Mexican people - so pissed at congress, ya know what the ahole GOP does in Colorado? Read this: http://article.nationalreview......d-harsanyi
See? The GOP: Dumb as ever.
AMENBRO| 8.3.10 @ 2:49PM
Agreed, John Bonyer sends chills down my spine just appearing on TV much less speaking. I was weaned on GOP Political discourse watching the previous to Newt Gingrich BOB MICHEL, MODERATE, moderately stupid albeit amicable, grabbing his ankles to go along to get along just to get jizzed in the face by the DEMS. I'm scared whitless watching these Keystone Cop Gang that can't Shoot straight antics. Tancredo is not a symptom, he is a disease. Down South we call it the Alan Brooks EET UP WITH THE DUMBARSE DISEASE LOL.
BackToBasics| 8.2.10 @ 11:37AM
I agree and I would not put it past Obam to sign an executive order to legalize all illegal citizens. And I'll bet the amnesty would not cover green card holders who are white and who have paid for their green cards and done everything the right way. Case inpoint, look at how they are deporting the British couple in Maine over some small technicality who have a small business there but have lost everything as a result of the deportation proceedings. And its all just to get the votes.
And I still cannot get over the foolishness of Bush-Rove who thought they could win the hearts and eventually the votes of the illegals with an amnesty-lit charade that would have eventually been turned into full amnesty. They left the borders wide open hoping so we could get cheap labor and then get all those votes forever and ever.... What a sham and it was bound to lead to the Democrats getting the lion's share of the illegal votes once amnesty was granted. Hhuman nature being what it is, Democrats are better at giving away not only the candy but the whole store and Bush-Rove somehow could not see or anticipate that. Pathetic!
BackToBasics| 8.2.10 @ 11:38AM
Correction, amnesty-lite
paul| 8.2.10 @ 9:52PM
our leaders have fail us . it is thus time we as members of every city ,town, and parish must rise up and take matters in to our own hands . We can no longer trust the GOV to protect us from foreign invaders . big brother has given up sovereign us soil that our forefathers shed both tear and blood for to be pissed away by some petty punk in a fancy suit. pick up your plows and forge them in to weapons for the lord helps those who helps themselves . the time is upon us to throw off the chains of big brother and stand as free men once more
Jeff Lee| 8.2.10 @ 6:45AM
Obama has made it clear that he has no regard for the thoughts of the American public. He knows what's best for them and their opinion means nothing.
daddio| 8.2.10 @ 12:44PM
so what would happen if Arizona merely ignored the court order and went ahead with enforcing their own law? What could the Feds do? Would they send troops? If so, how would the Feds use the troops? If cops are out doing their job, would they assign troops to ride along? Do they have that many people? What if the troops refuse to obey orders? In other words, the Governor of Arizona should tell the White House to stuff it, and go about it's business of enforcing it's own legal laws.
carnot| 8.2.10 @ 5:23PM
they'd cut off money flows.
paul| 8.2.10 @ 9:55PM
amen pass the beans and bullets
Jason| 8.3.10 @ 1:27PM
It would probably end up with very similar results that we got during the civil rights movement.
maddog| 8.2.10 @ 9:56PM
viva la revaluation
Keith I| 8.2.10 @ 7:13AM
What do you call a malignant narcissist that is elevated to the most powerful position on the face of the Earth?
Meglomaniac seems the most apropos.
JP| 8.2.10 @ 7:17AM
I find it quite ironic that President Obama is using the Department of Homeland Security to implement this unconstitutional scheme. I think the GOP members of Congress should demand that she present herself before the appropriate committees. There, she must answer whether this plan or anyother plan is afoot that would illegally give undocumented aliens amnesty without congressional consent. If she denies it, and we find out later she lied Congress should then prosecute her and all other bureaucrats for contempt. And if the trail leads to the WH, impeachments proceedings should not be out of the question.
elephant4life| 8.2.10 @ 8:25AM
Good luck getting her to even respond to a summons. She doesn't have to, you know. They "won", and she works for the Executive Branch, which seems to be 100% immune to obeying the law or upholding the Constitution. What started with Roosevelt and has been left unchecked for decades has now culminated in the machinations of an Indonesian usurper who successfully pulled off his coup d'etat and is now dismantling our country, unchallenged by his accomplice Pelosi, assisted by his unconstitutional czars and advisors, and aided and abetted by his rubber-stamped Cabinet.
William Wallace| 8.2.10 @ 12:19PM
As long as the DemonRats control congress, they are not about to issue any subpoenas. Only if the Republicans take back one or both houses would we have any hope of dragging Lurch's sister before a committee. Then, we have to deal with the problem elephant4life brings up.
BackToBasics| 8.2.10 @ 7:26PM
If Repubs win, they will not press any of these issues. They won't even go after Obamcare directly. They'll let the states fight it piecemeal and then go along once tis safe to do so. We need to get rid of about 80% of the current soft Repubs and replace them with limited governmet constitutionalists/conservatives before we will see any leadership from a Repub-controlled congress to really roll back the communist-tide.
commonsense247| 8.2.10 @ 8:36PM
Agreed, bingo, and semper fi.
carnot| 8.2.10 @ 5:25PM
well...if this is a game of chicken.
we elect enough republicans to take back the Congress.
they start defunding DHS and other WH agencies.
Melvin| 8.2.10 @ 7:33AM
What do we expect from a Constitutional Lawyer?
Like many have posted in this public forum. Obama is using our own Constitution to systematically disassemble the fabric that holds this Nation together.
A very, very interesting article from Investors.com
Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
http://www.investors.com/NewsA.....71&p=2
Ret. Marine| 8.2.10 @ 8:10AM
Indeed, Melvin. The islamist or muslims from CAIR, the holy land foundation trials in Texas said as much in their founding documents, paraphrasing of course, "to destroy their house by their own miserable hands."
Anyone need anymore proof this pretender-n-theif, obama is a muslim pretending to be christian?
loulou| 8.2.10 @ 1:36PM
Obama never claimed to be a Christian, did he? He told George Stephanopoulous that he was a Muslim.
Ret. Marine| 8.3.10 @ 4:14PM
Why yes he indeed did, but was persuaded to call himself a christian after twice being reminded ny the othe putz if memory serves correctly
Louis Jenkins| 8.2.10 @ 8:14AM
Melvin:
I picked up that article at WRSA website. A interesting article and may very well lead to a Second American Revolution. Am I sick of the Pretender n Chief's voodoo? YES! We're losing at every turn and have little recourse. Constitutional Lawyer? We don't even know what he studied at Law School, let alone which way he is headed other that total destruction of the USA.
Louis Jenkins| 8.2.10 @ 11:28AM
Our own government has become our enemy and is taking us to court at a time when we need help,” Babeu (sheriff of Pinal Co., Arizona) said.
BackToBasics| 8.2.10 @ 7:32PM
I've got to wonder if there is a prayer rug on the floor of the White House residence next to the copy of "The Communist Manifesto." The two wouldn't seem to fit together but America is the "melting pot (TIC)" after all and the enemy of my enemy (i.e. the USA as a Republic) is my friend....
maddog | 8.2.10 @ 10:01PM
stand tall with the man for he is a true american and will not let us down. in the near future he will need our arms to defend the state of az from the mighty hand of washington
Jim O'Brien| 8.2.10 @ 7:42AM
Estimates of the number of illegal immigrants range from about 12 to 20 million, making a mockery of the rule of law. Instead of acting to contain this invasion, Obama is waging war against Arizona and all American citizens. He is encouraging contempt for the law instead of enforcing the law.
How many terrorists from around the world have infiltrated the U.S. by walking across the Mexican border? How many Mexican drug dealers are operating all over the U.S.? How many hundreds of $$$ billions in public services do the illegals consume, without paying any taxes?
It is clear that Obama has nothing but contempt for our Constitution or for the United States. He is actively subverting the Constitution. He is grossly negligent with malicious intent, and should be impeached.
justasimplepatriot| 8.2.10 @ 7:50AM
At what point does willful failure to uphold the oath of office rise to an impeachable level?
Brigitte| 8.2.10 @ 8:05AM
At the point the conservatives have taken over the House and Senate and are willing to do the right thing.
Stephanie| 8.2.10 @ 8:13AM
And I don't think the conservatives have the cojones to do it. No, I know it.
Ohiolad| 8.2.10 @ 8:34AM
Fortunately, we are getting a group of conservative women in Congress and governorships who seem to have more testosterone than the men.
daddioandkzj| 8.2.10 @ 12:46PM
But are there enough of them? There are millions of cockroaches in DC....
loulou| 8.2.10 @ 1:39PM
True, the GOP women are the ones with the cojones. The Republican leadership is of the ruling class and will never do anything to stop the insanity. They have no problem being in the minority--just don't call them extreme and keep those party invitations coming.
Melvin| 8.2.10 @ 8:21AM
Muslim terrorists could burn Washington D.C. to the ground and the powers that be while standing amongst the smoldering ruins, will still call it a, " "Overseas Contingency Operation."
This type of thinking that is so pervasive in the political mindset today is exactly why the, Presidential and Political Oath of Office has been turned into toilet paper for politicians to wipe their backsides with.
We could have a photograph of Obama being involved in a drive-by shooting from the streets in Washington D.C. and he still would not be impeached.
Vic| 8.4.10 @ 12:06AM
I thought the constitution was the official TP for the DC politicians bunghole!
Tea Party Lady| 8.2.10 @ 3:27PM
Obama's willful failure to uphold his oath of office has passed the imeachable level long ago. Who is going to impeach? Not the Dems in Congress, nor the Republican sheeple. It is going to take more than rhetoric to save us from this usurper...and by the time enough people wake up it may be too late.
Tenn Slim| 8.2.10 @ 8:23AM
Opine
W/O referenced comment, I Recc reading the following.
"Masters of Deceit" Circa 1954 J. Edgar Hoover
"Come Nineveh, Come Tyre" circa 1973
"MAP" by Bill Moyer, Circa 1983
"Rules for Radicals" S. Alynski, circa 1965.
bt
While none of these texts deal directly with the Imigration Legal or Illegal problem, they do tell the Strategy, Tactics and methods of the OBNA. We are living in what the old NAM days called, a war of Action Fronts, Attrition, and as Mao put it, the middle of the Long March. OBNA has to secure his legacy. His Admin days, due to the November 2010 Election, are in doubt. He now has to secure, tie loose ends, make sure the Leftist agendas are met, and move on.
bt
We WILL Prevail
Semper Fi
end
davelnaf| 8.2.10 @ 9:28AM
Just when you thought that the appetite of this administration to do harm to this country was slumbering satiated in a cave somewhere after having gorged itself on the most unpopular agenda in American history along comes Obama’s back door illegal alien amnesty.
Anyone remotely aware of what this administration has been up to in the year and a half of its existence knew that Team Obama would try to pull some version of an amnesty sooner rather than later. This sort of thing is, after all, deeply imbedded in their DNA. But do the Obamanoids understand, or care, that any sort of amnesty would bring in many more illegals and that this ever growing and never assimilated mass of people could cause this country great harm? The answer is they are probably salivating over the prospect of America's deconstruction--they are working hard enough on it as it is--happening on their watch. Putting all the broken pieces formerly called America back together again as a European Frankenstein would delight them to no end.
Trolling for Hispanic votes on the strength of half-baked identity theory politics may sound off the wall to most Americans, but it is makes absolutely perfect sense to the average Obamanoid.
FTM| 8.2.10 @ 5:51PM
It's even worse than you presume.
First, if the 12 to 20 million illegals in the country now do indeed get amnesty by hook or by crook isn't it reasonable to assume that they'll want to earn minimum wage just like everybody else? So, when these illegals get amnesty most of them are going directly onto unemployment. That's unemployment for ninety-nine weeks.
Next, if the 12 to 20 million illegals in the country get amnesty isn't it reasonable to assume that they'll want to relocate their families to the US too? Mom and dad, the grandparents and the kids and the like. Seems to me that the 12 to 20 million number all of a sudden becomes 70 to 80 million if not 100 million.
Of course mom and dad and granny and grampa are going to need socialist security benifits for support. The fact that they never paid into the program will be ignored. Either that or they'll just bop on down to the city hall or wherever and get their food stamp debit card. There'll probably be a riot or two or five or nine that there isn't enough public housing available for these folks to move into and then destroy.
Now, the folks that are currently employing the 12 to 20 million illegals in this country don't want to pay the minimum wage for tomato picking and the like so we're going to get an additional 12 to 20 million illegals to replace the 12 to 20 million illegals that got amnesty and we begin the process again.
Meanwhile, we keep extending unemployment benifits so there is no incentive at all for an unemployed American to take a job picking tomatoes or shingling a roof or whatever other hard manual labor job is available to put food on the table.
I paid for college by shingling roofs, working on farms in tobacco and hay, painting houses and the like. See, it was like this, I was too stupid to realize that if I sat on my ass in the house that the government would pay my college bills for me. Now that I'm fifty years old and my back is ruined I get to pay the illegals to sit on their asses and get their benifits along with the legal Americans that bought houses that they can't afford and have credit card debt that they can't pay off.
Somebody please explain to me why it is that I'm going to work tonight at midnight again?
I say let President Obama keep doing as he's doing. Let the criminal politicians continue with their crime. Like my pappy always told me when I was a kid growing up, "Hell ain't even half full yet." Vote in November? What for.
At least after the crash and the government and government dependant class have done the only one truely useful thing that they can do which is starve to death after burning every urban center to the ground to show how upset they are then perhaps, just perhaps the honest and decent people left over can rebuild the world.
BackToBasics| 8.2.10 @ 10:57PM
I understand but if we wipe each other out to that extent, the Chinese are waiting out there to take up the land and whatever spoils may be left. I don't want them to take our country either.
Stan Redmond| 8.2.10 @ 9:34AM
With all the screaming that immigration enforcement is a racist issue WILL the administration give just as many white devil eastern european illegals backdoor amnesty as he will Latin American illegals? OR, dare I ask, is this back door amnesty plan only for illegal 'personas de color'?
I'm a racist for even questioning The Won [PBUH].
delmar Jackson| 8.2.10 @ 9:54AM
I am Democrat angry over decades of massive unending immigration.
immigration is a TAX on the working poor here now and the mostly frraudulent worker visa programs help to steal the few middle class jobs left.
the only people that favor immigration are those that benefit from it and pass the socuial costs onto the communities. The republicans are just as bad, bush was our fist MEXICAN president!
Here is my plan, go to Numbersusa and vote for the candidadte with the best immigration voting record, no matter who or what.
Work like your countries future depended on it to defeat those open border anti american traitors that have infeted washington for decades.
think about it people, in the last 40 ywears we grew unecessarily via immigration by 100 million and are on track in a few decades to reach a half a billion only to please those that BENEFIT from immigration at the expense of the rest of us.
Wake UP!!!
You have nothing to lose but your country!
FTM| 8.2.10 @ 6:17PM
Too late.
martin j smith| 8.2.10 @ 10:01AM
No one should besurprised at the behvaiour of this regime. They will do anything to get what they want. The question is the opposition.
The leaderless Republican Party at this time canjnot be counted it--but In November this could be the last chance to register strong general opposition of the Scoialist Left agenda.
So, not as embrace for Republicans, not an endorsement of their uninspiring leadershit, but strictly as a way of making clear that the PEOPLE say NON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is only the first step in a very long ranged ( and I mean over decades ) of change towards the right. Remember not all Tea Partiers are strict Conservatives. And, remember many "Independents " are not strict conservatives. But, there is some common ground on the economy of which Immigration is vital part. There is co0mmon ground on the rule of law and that means our Constitution. And, people was our society to run orderly,peacefully and the citizens being entitled to the rights under our Bill of Rights. They agree on Government non interference in our lives. And, that our nation should be secure. That is a start.
So do your part and vote NON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to the Socialist Lefty agenda.
Gus Malanga| 8.2.10 @ 10:46AM
Amnesty illegal, amnesty, illegal, amnesty illegal. Do the bigots who hate latinos have any other words in their vocabulary? Do they think that shouting "amnesty" and "illegal" settles every argument?
The Dream Act, which according to Mr. Antle "incidentally, Congress has repeatedly failed to pass", provides status to children who entered the United States before turning 16 years of age have been in the United States for at least 5 years without interruption, speak English and complete two years of college.
Why is that so terrible? It is supported by a strong majority of Americans but it can't get to a vote in our disfunctional Pelosi/Reid Congress for the same reasons other sensible bills can not come up for a vote. Both the left and the right keep it hostage for their own purposes.
We wouldn't need the Dream Act if in 1996 a cynical President Clinton signed two flawed "immigration reform bills" replete with contradictions and excesses saying they could be fixed after his reelection. But here we are 14 years later, immigration laws are a mess and we can't even fix a small flaw on behalf of undocumented American children without the bigots throwing a hissy fit.
In November 2010 the American people will rightly push back against Obama's socialist plans. The fools who voted for "Hopey changey" apparently didn't realize they were putting the Bosheviks in charge. Americans love their freedom and will use the ballot box accordingly.
But if the bigots hijack the resistance and turn it into another anti-latino jihad, their victory will be short lived. Try to imagine winning the presidency in 2012 without carrying Texas or Florida. Remember California. It used to be a GOP state that gave us Ronald Reagan. Now its reliably Democrat!
Are we going to let Bolsheviks and bigots set America's political agenda forever. Can Americans get together in the middle once again to get things done that need doing, without having extremists control the debate?
W. James Antle III | 8.2.10 @ 11:16AM
"The Dream Act, which according to Mr. Antle 'incidentally, Congress has repeatedly failed to pass', provides status to children who entered the United States before turning 16 years of age have been in the United States for at least 5 years without interruption, speak English and complete two years of college.
Why is that so terrible?"
If it's so great, it should be passed by Congress and signed into law. The executive branch should not behave as if it passed anyway when in fact numerous Congresses have declined to enact it when given the opportunity.
Personally, I might be inclined to support something along the lines of the DREAM Act if first the illegal population is reduced to a manageable level. But it would still constitute giving legal status -- that is, an amnesty -- to people who are illegal immigrants or children of illegal immigrants. That's why I described it as such.
Richard| 8.2.10 @ 11:48AM
Sir, being against illegal immigration is not being against Hispanics. Indeed, I suspect that most middle class Hispanics don't like illegal immigration either. Besides "Hispanic" is a tenditious category.
FTM| 8.2.10 @ 6:25PM
You Gus are out to lunch. You are the one talking racist bigotry. The issue is illegal immigration. If this idea is such a grand one the why don't you pay for it jack-wagon instead of sending car loads of thugs with guns and badges to my house to make me pay for it.
That's the issue behind the issue. Who is going to pay for all this high-mindedness?
It's easy to say that so-and-so ought to get thus-and such as long as somebody else, probably these nameless and faceless "rich" people are forced at gunpoint to pay for whatever foolishness that you just up and knee -jerk into existance.
By my calculations my wife and I ought to be "rich" by the end of the first quarter of '11 no later than the second quarter.
Stan Redmond| 8.2.10 @ 6:43PM
Don't pro amnesty people have any other words beside BIGOT and RACIST in their vocabulary?
What is it so difficult for you to understand about amnesty for an illegal act? Because someone walks in to the country across a porous border or stays past a tourist visa does not warrant said criminal (since you don't like the word illegal) walking to the front of the line while millions of immigrants from all over the world who have immigrated LEGALLY!!!
If we were to word this accurately to what this Obministration is looking for it would be "Reward criminal behaviour for ignoring immigration law at the expense of legal immigrants." Reagan tried it back in 86. IT DIDN'T WORK THEN and it won't work now. Arizona tries to make it uncomfortable for illegal tresspassers and the BIG HISSY FIT is from those benefiting from this criminal activity.
Do you ever think that people are mad because we are sick of this country being stomped on by a bunch of people who hate it, who wish to exploit it's generosity, and get rewarding for breaking the law (welfare, free medical care, free education for children).
misanthropicus | 8.2.10 @ 10:58AM
We can report that the Zimbawisation of America goes on at brisk pace, the pockets of resistance being neutralized one by one -
A conspiracy to destroy America? Can't say this - but the convergence of actions perpetrated by: (a) Democrats' selfish desire to inject in this nation's demography 13 million government-addicted people in order to maintain their grip on power, with (b) Obama's deep antipathy for America and the Western heritage, with (c) the unfailing support of the Useful Idiots that make for MSM, Universities and Judiciary, provides a convincing picture of a grand scheme to destroy America that's been afoot for some time.
And a simple royal water test for those who would object the idea of deliberate destruction of America by these immigration policies: pray, how are the interests of this nation advanced by the Obama adminstration's immigration policies and actions?
I doubt that someone can come with a good answer for this -
Below is a link to a very sad, revolting CNS News piece about Babeau and Dever, Arizona sheriffs:
"Arizona Sheriff: ‘Our Own Government Has Become Our Enemy" -
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/70324
Petronius| 8.2.10 @ 10:59AM
A friend who is a British expat living here since '88 is not allowed to file papers for citizenship for 2 reasons. When Blair became PM in '97 the State Dept. did him a favour by accepting only a hundred or so of Her Majesty's subjects to become U.S. Citizens so that the UK could continue to tax them. Obama hates Britain. So now, no UK refugee can become a Citizen here.
This begs the question: Since Mexican invaders enjoy Civil Rights in (our?) country, why not him?
Easy: he is White; and in Obama's amerika, not welcome.
Tim*| 8.2.10 @ 11:02AM
The Federal Government is provoking rebellion .
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .
Rise Up !
Turn It Back On Them| 8.2.10 @ 11:10AM
OK, So We’re All Illegal’s Now!
In her ruling U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton stated that illegal’s were not required to carry papers and made it unlawful for the police to ascertain their status.
So, let’s clarify, illegal’s don’t have to account for who they are or their actions and it goes without saying that they are still entitled to the bountiful rights and safety net America provides without being obligated to pay for any of it.
Well what a sweet deal, if you can get it.
Well my fellow “Legal Citizens”, you’re SOL.
But don’t despair there’s hope.
All of this chicanery is based on the notion that legal citizens are proud of their status and will always proclaim it.
But what if we don’t?
Why should we? So we can have ever more burdens heaped upon us?
Well, no more.
We are all illegal’s now!
Does your butt hurt from sitting on that overstuffed wallet all day?
Unburden yourself and pitch that bulky drivers license and insurance card!
You no longer need to carry around something the police can’t demand from you so go ahead and pitch ‘em. Just remember to state that your name is Rey or Reina, if you’re a woman and that you’re here illegally.
Tax forms? Us illegal’s don’t need no stinkin’ tax forms!
Awesome huh? And theirs more, like discounts on higher education and housing. Bank accounts and credit cards you can open without positive id and use to store all the money you no longer pay to the feds and the list just keeps going on!
Now on the down side things could get unpleasant with an officer who is not fully up to speed on the new twisted reality U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton has created for us so my advice is to avoid the whole thing and get a Mexican license plate for your car. Hey, no more renewal fees and inspections! Cool!
With the exception of one Sheriff in AZ once your Mexican license plate is installed the rest of law enforcement will avoid you like the plague. That is, if they know what’s good for them.
So live a little, put a gaudy gold crown on your dashboard and drive all by yourself in the car pool lane and be sure to really put your foot into it while you’re at it. It’s all good if you know how to work it, thanks Judge!
Jim O'Brien| 8.2.10 @ 1:40PM
TSA SHOULD STOP REQUIRING IDENTIFICATION
Let's all start refusing to show our ID to the TSA at the airport. Violates our rights. If they won't let us on the plane, refuse to use the airlines. Since airline travel generates a huge chunk of economic activity (fuel, rental cars, aircraft manufacturers, pilots, mechanics, hotels, restaurants, insurance, leasing, banks & credit cards, theme parks, resorts, sports, government workers, etc.) this will drive up the unemployment rate, creating huge additional political pressure.
rabiddog9| 8.2.10 @ 11:20AM
Blah Blah Blah.... All this talk talk talk.... People It's time to Lock and Load I'm sorry to say.
Road Kill| 8.2.10 @ 11:33AM
rabiddog9:
You're closer to the truth than you realize.
f em all| 8.2.10 @ 3:25PM
Right rabiddog, there is no longer a future for freedom with either of the two corrupt majors. I wonder how and where it will start, but in anycase, I'm taking my wife down to the firing range to make sure she knows how to shoot.
Obama told us what he would do, redistribute the waelth. The thing was, folks thought he was talking about helping out our own people. What he really meant was to redistribute America's wealth to the rest of the world.
Get ready folks.
Tea Party Lady| 8.2.10 @ 3:43PM
Amen to that. Someone with a spine must stand up to save this country!
BREDNG10| 8.2.10 @ 3:49PM
rabiddog9,
Since November 2008, the only industry running 24/7 is the arms industry while ammo sales are at record levels also.AR-15`s of all types are selling like hotcakes.Most of us are hoping this november brings BIG changes to reverse the commie takeover in washington.There is a lot of uncertanty in the country.People are preparing for the worst.
Cuffs| 8.2.10 @ 11:44AM
Illegal immigration--gee, all these problems!
How racist was it to demand my mother, immigrating from Germany, have an
American sponsor, health certificate and
a job offer before the US would accept her.
Sounds pretty draconian to me. Should we
ask all the Italians, Irish and Japanese, etc. how they climbed over a wall and got goodies from the US government?
What a scandal this amnesty garbage is.
Thoroughly political and destructive.
"What looks like failure is actually success."
Reinhard| 8.2.10 @ 2:12PM
I agree. My family also immigrated from Germany. Still, after 50 years, My mother tells of her being asked if she were coming to the U.S. to be a prostitute, depite being married and the mother of two. She also talks about having her teeth checked "like someone buying a horse". How things have devolved in this country. I now live outside Phoenix, and you can't believe the screams of racism when checking status comes up. Also, one thing missing from the news coverage are the images of the all the mexican flags carried at the demonstrations. Try that in mexico and see how far you get.
Mary| 8.2.10 @ 11:53AM
Mandatory, sustained, permanent E-VERIFY for all jobs in the US, currently held and future, plus business licensees is needed NOW. Jail for business owners who don't comply.
Plus Social Security and IRS need to collaborate and eliminate the millions of cases of identity theft carried out by illegal aliens.
We need to vote in legislators who will accomplish these 2 objectives!!!
blackwatch| 8.2.10 @ 3:02PM
It is possible to sue a person for identity theft--but no one sues the illegal alien because of the obvious lack of assets, flight risk, etc. They are not likely to walk into a court house on their own.
So why not file a small claims lawsuit against their employer if their is a pattern of hiring illegal aliens?
The small claims limit in my state is $5000. Identity theft could be their achilles heal.
Enzo| 8.2.10 @ 11:56AM
Arizona should get 100 bus loads of illegal immigrants and drive them to Washington D.C. and let them out right in front of the white house. I would gladly donate $100 to help pay for it and I'm sure millions of Americans would too.
Robert| 8.2.10 @ 12:08PM
You all don't get it. The solution to illegal immigration, is legal immigration. Lower the cost to apply for a green card, and approve those who apply.
The current 13 trillion dollar U.S. Federal Debt is nothing compared to the 60+ trillion in unfunded liabilities. All that can only be funded with an economy well over twice the size of today's economy.
The reason Bush was lax, Obama is lax, is they understand there is no political will to legalize millions of workers at the same time - there is no hope for the future, unless someday our workforce is twice the size it is today.
The poor economy, we hope, doesn't last forever - but population trends, they will be difficult to correct, if we make the wrong choices today.
If that population goes to Mexico - Mexico is the winner. No two ways about it.
Mary| 8.2.10 @ 12:20PM
Sorry Robert,
We already have a generous legal immigration system that admits over 1 million new green card holders every year. A bigger economy doesn't = a better economy. The immigrants getting green cards each year and the illegal alien population have on average low earnings; thus their contributions on average are below the level needed to make a net contribution. They will for the most part join the 50% of Americans who don't pay any income tax.
And you haven't even considered quality of life or environmental issues that come with population increases.
Under your theory, the biggest economy is the best. Why don't we then send green cards to all of India and all of China?
JP| 8.2.10 @ 12:38PM
Robert,
You are niave. Reagan offered amnesty to the then 2 million illegals; less than 50,000 came forward. To understand the illegal immigration problem, one must see it from the illegal immigrant's and business leader's standpoint. Illegals who do remain here for long periods, enjoy the best of both worlds. Thier income is far higher than in Mexico. And thier position as an illegal virtually guarentees them work year around if they so choose. They possess stolen IDs, free-legal aid if they ever need it; free health care through Medicaid, and they are below the radar. Most get paid under the table or in cash. And most chose to spend part of the year living in Mexico, where the dollar is still King. In the urban areas of the US where illegals flourish there are Hispanic newspapers, TV and radio stations; underground banking facilities that offer loans, pre-paid cell phones, check cashing, and even mortgages (in the last market bubble, illegals in the Southwest made up 25% of the subprime loans).
For buisnesses, there are substantial savings in using illegals. Their employee costs are a third when compared to legal employee; businesses pocket vey large savings.
In the end, less than 5% of the illegals here will take up any kind of amnesty. For they know thier real value resides in thier illegal status.
George S| 8.2.10 @ 1:54PM
Why then have borders? Let anyone who can afford airfare or a rubber raft come into the US with no questions asked. Is that acceptable?
The federal debt has nothing to do with a labor deficit... it has everything to do with a government that cannot control spending. Is your credit card debt a function of not earning enough? Only when you spend what you cannot afford or earn. That's why card issuers cut you off, before you get to the point where you can't even pay the interest on your debt.
The hope for the future is to reign in the federal government and the spending resulting from entitlement programs. The first step is educating people in basic economics, history and the philosophy of natural law and individual rights.
If we legalize the illegals to get their money to pay our debt, what would government do to get their votes? Ahh... give them a piece of the entitlement pie. That's like getting a pay raise then asking for an increased credit limit instead of paying down your debt. Then we'll need more illegals to work to pay their bills. And congress will need their votes... then we'll need more immigrants...
Where does it end?
FTM| 8.2.10 @ 6:33PM
Robert,
You really, really need to think about getting your head out of the inserted and locked position. Tomato farmers don't pay minimum wage for picking tomatoes. Every illegal immigrant that you legalize just opens up the requirement for another illegal immigrant.
martin j smith| 8.2.10 @ 12:11PM
Gus Malanga let me correct you. I do not hate any one from anywhere. My grandparents came thru Ellis Island leglly were injected,inspected,poked prodded, papered,stamped and finally entered legally. I think people who from Mexico,central America,South America are perfectly capable of doing it the legal way. But, no the Government of Mexico in callusion with both GWB and BHO allow illegals to come over the border without any action. And among some of these illegals are criminals some of these are connected with drug cartels. the American people hate not the latinos but politicans and their servants--like yourself who are dishonnest about the motiovation ( politically speaking ) and the economic costs to the nation--nat to mention national security issues. m So in summary your use of the usual " race card" is now boring and ineffective because most Americans including Latino/as understand the stakes for country. You sir do not not give a damn about this country. You care about the supposed "rights" of illegals. There is only one problem--they are illegal.
And, we know what BHO is up to poltically speaking to rig eletions. We are not fools--but we get angry we our "dear leader " thinks we are.
Majito| 8.2.10 @ 12:30PM
question to all the huff and puff in this column is how far are you willing to go to stop this nonsense? read about chavez and venezuela and see how he got to be a dictator down there little by little grabbing a little here and a little there while the citizenship just huffed and puffed but will not lift a weapon to stop it...are you willing to pick your weapon and stand in the wall while these thugs are marched out of town? or just venting is all you're willing to do...november may be too far away...besides never underestimate the stupidity of the current crop of voters that were mentally damaged by the public school system in the last generation...come december nancy still with the gavel, harry will still softly state how good is all...i don't for a minute believe that all is going to be fixed in november...not unless you're willing to do what it takes...think washington, franklin, adams...that kind of willingness...i see a lot of anger but still see same folks getting push around by thugs at meets...black panthers with billy clubs? yo daddy why don't u show up with a louisville slugger and make things right? afraid of dark thugs? not me...i see one of these gangstas wanna bees like that and blood will be spilled...but things will me made right...
JmsA| 8.2.10 @ 1:42PM
Majito,
While your posting is mostly spot on, you fail to get the gist of why the average non-socialist folks don't rise up and fight the ever increasing Chavista dictatorship. Simply put, they don't have the means, particularly weapons. Only the Venezuelan armed forces, the police and the paramilitary units are armed; all other weapons have been confiscated. Unlike Nicaragua, where the Contras were externally trained and armed, Venezuelans don't have such support. Moreover, there are many, if not most that have accused the Cubans, for example, of not rising up to fight the communist dictators. In fact, at least 5,000 of them did in the Escambray mountains in central Cuba, not far from the Bay of Pigs, from the time after Castro took over in 1959, until 1964. Lacking both internal and external support, as the former had been rounded up and either executed, imprisoned in concentration camps, or forced into exile, they were ultimately overcome by 50, 000 communist troops, fully equiped, trained and led by the Soviets and former socialist Spanish Republican cadres. All weapons confiscated from private citizens, and continuously hounded by the extensive repressive apparatus in Cuba, including but not limited by the ever present in every block, CDR (Comites para la Defensa de La Revolucion), but also internal security agencies such as G-2, etc., there is also an extensive network of undercover snitches, whose victims fill at least 300 prisons, where prisoners only dream of being treated as well as those by the U.S. in Gitmo, if you get my meaning. There are also "Orwellian" laws where citizens suspected of anti-revolutionary crimes, just because they don't appear to be sufficiently loyal to the dictatorship, are extralegally arrested and imprisoned without so much as a semblance of due process. Such repressive methods are increasingly in place, by a cadre of Cuban military and internal security personnel, in Venezuela. It is not that they won't fight, but that they lack the means and are prevented to do so at every turn, in an ever increasing totalitarian environment.
Maggie | 8.2.10 @ 12:36PM
For those who want to act, please visit www.BillionAmericans.com and try to enlist young Americans in the action to save their own futures.
At least, this would teach them about civic responsibility and political chicanery.
JD| 8.2.10 @ 12:43PM
Do you suddenly find yourself using words like “heritage”, tradition” and “founding fathers”?
Have you developed a fondness for long forms and endless government bureaucracy?
Do you have a new found fascination with fences, razor wire and motion sensors?
Are you compelled to charge entire families, or those that help them, with a felony?
Do you have an uncontrollable urge to reject reasonable solutions while you desperately seek the attention of others?
- Mark Fiore, 4/5/06
For more information:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN1kp1ggWyM
http://www.markfiore.com/animation/phobia.html
NumberOne1Azfan| 8.2.10 @ 12:49PM
Here are the facts per the Federal Govt:
19% of all Hispanics residing in the USA are illegal.
In AZ , 23%-26% are illegal
http://www.azcentral.com/news/.....demographi cs.html
misanthropicus| 8.2.10 @ 12:54PM
While you were out for lunch (or watching American Idol) -
Fresh from Los Angeles Times:
"U.S. officials boost efforts to protect immigrant crime victims -
The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services agency's U visa gives temporary legal status to people who suffer physical or mental abuse from crimes and..."
More @
http://www.latimes.com/news/lo.....0731.story
Gus Malanga| 8.2.10 @ 1:17PM
Amnesty means "forgive and forget". A path to legal residence for some here illegally is no "amnesty". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty. It's precisely what America has always done with immigrants already here when it revamped immigration laws in 1790 (2 years residence for citizenship), 1795 (5 years residence for citizenship), 1798 (14 years residence for citizenship): decide which new Americans to accept and which ones to reject.
After the post Civil War 14th amendment defining US citizens as "persons born here or naturalized", immigration restrictions imposed other requirements or racial restrictions. But every revamp addressed the humanitarian side of the thousands who had resided in the US long enough to be "Americans". The 1917 Act protected those returning to an unrelinquished domicile of 7 years and grandfathered in those here since 1902. That date was repeatedly updated through 1986, for aliens here by 1982.
My point is that fixing our immigration mess requires the support of every American ethnic group. America was settled from Soth to North, not East to West. American cities named Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Antonio, etc, were not a peculiar fashion. They were named by the Hispanic Americans who settled there in the 16th and 17th century, and whose history is denied by bigots who prey on the ignorant. St. Augustine, Fl was founded long before Williamsburg, Va. Why is Williamsburg . Ditto Santa Fe, NM. Are these not American cities?
Efforts to rebuild the ethnic mix prevalent in parts of North America, mid-19th century, will eventually fail aswe Americans come to our senses on immigration and devise a policy that suits all Americans, not just those whose ancestors arrived between the 16th and 19th century from Northern Europe. But we'll have to do this while trudging through all the prejudice and misinformation being dished out by racial supremacist of all political persuasions.
BTW why is Asia the "Far East"? Looks West from here. Why is Europe "the West"? Looks East from here. Isn't it time we started to make decisions based on today's facts, instead of the perspectives of the mid 19th century Habsburg Empire?
JmsA| 8.2.10 @ 2:01PM
"They were named by the Hispanic Americans who settled there in the 16th and 17th century..."
No, they were not named by "Hispanic Americans." They were founded and named by Spanish missionaries. And San Agustine, FL, was founded by Spaniards, including Cuban Criollos, and under the control of the Spanish Crown from 1513 until 1763, when it was ceded by Spain to the British Crown in exchange for control of Havana, following the British invasion and control of the island for almost one year.
Gs Malanga| 8.2.10 @ 1:20PM
Sorry about the typos in prior posts. Old laptop, poor lighting is my excuse.
dw| 8.2.10 @ 2:12PM
We have rules on legal immigration in place that for political reasons are being ignored. These laws are clear and would be effective if there was a will to enforce them. That we should defend our borders is not an option, it is mandatory. Use of a tactic which says we will enforce border security only if we include amnesty measures is a dispicable act of holding the welfare of American citizens hostage to a political ideology.
The federal government is tasked with the enforcement of laws passed by congress, not with a selectivety standard based on what is politically expediant per an administrations voting demographic.
There is no need to negotiate through this congress new immigration policy. There is every need to merely enforce, in full measure, existing laws and to make objective decisions on behalf of American citizens, not foriegn invaders.
FTM| 8.2.10 @ 7:40PM
Basically what you're looking at here, the immigration issue aside is the collapse of the legal system here in America. Justice deferred is justice denied and cliche's of like ilk. The government, federal, state and local decided what laws will be applied, if they will be applied based on a variety of factors usually having to do with the kind and degree of social protection that the individual enjoys. In a nutshell, inequality in law does indeed equal to no law.
gail| 8.2.10 @ 2:42PM
Is Majito a plant? Trollus botanicus sorosensis?
SamAdams25| 8.2.10 @ 3:00PM
Secure the border. Enforce current immigration law. Deport anyone found to be here illegally. Five years mandatory prison time for repeat offenders. Loss of business license for 1 year for anyone employing illegals.
Ohiolad| 8.2.10 @ 3:39PM
Yeah, and make sure for the second offense it is not a cushy, Club Med-type prison like Guantanamo and more like a typical Mexican prison in a place that is difficult to escape from, like say somewhere out in Aleutians.
FTM| 8.2.10 @ 7:42PM
Are you going to pay for this? Or are we to perhaps release murderers in order to make room for these illegals. Perhaps we should do something intelligent and legalize drugs and empty out prisons of all the non-violent drug offenders.
martin j smith| 8.2.10 @ 3:07PM
A court decision in Virginia appears to be the opposite of the one in Arizona. It will be interesting haow two apparently conflicting views play out.
If nothing else it will high lite in the news this issue and that Arizona is not alone in this struggle.
Adding to the mix the statement by an Arizona sheriff to the effect that The Federal Government is " our enemy " which apparently is also getting play. I think it is a good rather than abad thing that more people will see the role of the BHO in messing up our borders and the political angle on immigration.
jstwndring| 8.2.10 @ 3:28PM
So, basically, Obama is acting as executive AND legislator. He is violating, and has been violating the seperation of powers since he took office. Even Sheets Byrd commented on it with regard to Obama's many appointees. He constantly bypasses Congress if they don't do his bidding. Exactly how many reasons do we have to impeach his ass? I've lost count.
ROBERT HARKINS| 8.2.10 @ 3:43PM
The philosopher A. C. Grayling, defined Anarchy in his most recent book Ideas That Matter.
"Anarchy literally means ‘without ruler or government’, and denotes a political arrangement in which there is no framework of laws or a governing authority. Anarchism is the theory that advocates anarchy in this sense; it is the theory held by those who argue for abolition of the state, defined as a body, which exists to maintain a compulsory legal order. Anarchists argue that organic communities will emerge from the common sense of people opposed to living under any form of authority other than what they impose on themselves."
Those in favor of permanent illegal immigration, a doctrine the federal government will enforce against the majority of its citizens, under the rubric Comprehensive Immigration Reform are in fact anarchists and therefore unfaithful to the American constitution, its Western heritage and the rule of law. The government will declare illegal immigration permanent because even as it declares amnesty—let us call it what it is for once—it will not secure its southern border.
In 1986, President Reagan signed a Democrat sponsored amnesty bill, that favored two million Mexican illegal aliens with American citizenship. The Democrats, however, breached their promise to cooperate in the securing of the Southern border; and their betrayal is prescisely the reason the government now guesses there are 11 to 20 illegal aliens residing in the United States. The next Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill will repeat precisely the same contempt for the rule of law that promoted the 1986 Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill. This is a fact regardless of the insipid, pseudo-moral arguments made by those who, however much they flatter themselves with the epithet “Humanist," are, in fact, lawless anarchists.
The first obligation of a nation, if its citizsens may legitimately call it a nation, is the maintenance of its borders. Should it fail in this primary, and I should say primeval obligation, then citizenship becomes instantly meaningless. If a person who violates American borders may then, based on his illegal act, declare himself the beneficiary of every right that is the legacy of American citizenship, then American citizenship means nothing whatever in a national context.
Only nations have citizens. However, where anarchy reigns, the anarchist claims citizenship by an accident of geography. The anarchists' reasoning is psychotically circular. He who is here is an American. Why? Because he is here of course. What more do you need to know? Anarchy, therefore, is the practice of obdurate lawlessness; it is the credo of the citizen or the illegal alien who believes that his personal and emotional self-declaration of a right to live, and vote and collect welfare in the United States, is by itself sufficient to confer upon himself American citizenship. No other authority need be declared; certainly not the law or the American Constitution from which it is derived.
The self-declared citizen need not wish to live his life in America, learn the language or assimilate in any respect whatever to the American culture--indeed, he may be one of a mob who recently protested criticism of his self-declaration of citizenship, by waving a Mexican flag, emblazoned with the likeness of the murderer Che Guevara, in the faces of Arizona policemen who were trying to keep order.
Because the anarchist argument is logically and rationally absurd, he loads his demand for citizenship with, emotional, insipid or hateful responses to those who appeal to the Constitution and the rule of law. The essence of the anarchists’ delema is that illegal aliens, as a matter of law, are law breakers, and therefore have no right, and certainly no constitutional right to demand American citizenship.
Logic and reason, however, are of no force or effect in the debate. Emotion and intimidation, rage and hate alone hold sway. The protagonist of illegal immigration and therefore anarchy carefully avoids a discussion of an ancient International and national law that declares his claim irrational, and therefore void. He resorts instead to red herrings and fantastic theories he conjures from thin air.
For example, he argues endlessly that the presence of lawbreakers in the U.S. is infinitely beneficial to U.S. citizens; that lawbreakers are careful to take only those jobs unequivocally rejected by the millions of Americans now out of work; that in any event Americans object to his defiance of the law only because they are racists, bigots, and xenophobes.
Yes, yes, we have heard all this before. But tell us, upon what legal and constitutional grounds do you claim the right to invade our borders and demand citizenship? Finally, as the anarchist arguments are illogical, unlawful, and indeed, supercilious, the aliens' protagonists allege that the real issue is "humaneness" to which the present Democrat administration, its president and a federal court have responded with a most supine admiration.
President O’Bama, having first failed to humiliate the sovereign state of Arizona into surrender, then sued to compel it to his presidential will. Together, the President, a federal judge and most Democrats engaged in a collective hatred that is also known as bigotry, this time against a sovereign state and its sovereign citizens. I write this word twice lest we forget—the state and its citizens are sovereign. The President and his Democrats also revealed their utter contempt for the rule of law and the Constitution that breathed it into being—the very one they are sworn upon their oath and honor to protect.
In fact, as a matter of law, a person not a citizen has no right to declare himself one, simply by his unlawful breach of the American border. That is the law in America. It is the law in every sovereign state, extant or extinct. And those who declare otherwise are anarchists, that is, people who will not accept, who indeed have repudiated an American Constitution and the rule of law.
There is no exception anywhere. That the American government is engaged in the promulgation of lawlessness, and the savaging of a Constitution, that it is also willing to betray the ancient law which is its foundation, even so, does not create an exception. Instead betrayal inspires lawlessness, crime and infamy, cynicism and contempt.
But what, after all, is to be done when the king himself shreds the law; and declares himself to be in all things, the final word?
Vic| 8.4.10 @ 1:14AM
To answer question at the end of your well thought out post,
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...DOI
Unless of course we have at long last become comfortable with despotism.
RObert Harkins| 8.2.10 @ 3:47PM
SORRY THAT SHOULD BE 11 TO 20 MILLION ILLEGALS.
IF ONLY IT WERE 11 TO 20.!
dw| 8.2.10 @ 4:13PM
If Obama were to actually go this far and unilaterally inact a dictatorial mandate such as this, then it would be time for us and all like us to meet on the doorsteps of the White House. He has already done too much, but this would ice it for me and action would have to be the result.
I only hope I would not be alone.
David| 8.2.10 @ 4:16PM
One constitutional question that needs to be set straight by the Congress and the Supreme Court, is the question of citizenship when a person is ILLEGALLY in the country and just happens to break her water while here. That sh_t has to stop.
If the "fruit of the poisonous tree" argument can hamper our police in criminal law (that is when the law unlawfully obtains evidence against a suspect and then finds more lawfully obtained evidence as a result of the unlawfully obtained evidence, then it is all thrown out), then certainly an ILLEGAL 's offspring should not be granted citizenship just because mama wandered over the boarder. They should both be thrown out, just like the policeman's unlawfully obtained evidence and everything else that springs from it is thrown out.
Pete | 8.2.10 @ 4:53PM
Re: the Dream Act. That an illegal, a candidate for the benefits of this act would have completed not only two years of college but ostensibly a full twelve years of "free" education at the taxpayer expense is what is blatantly wrong with the Act. It encourages the very illegal immigration and ensconcement of illegals which our laws are designed to prevent------if the Fed had the cajones to enforce.
jeff williams| 8.2.10 @ 5:59PM
Why can't we deport them all? There are approximately 70,000,000 school children in America. On any given day bus 7,000,000 to 14,000,000 of them. They are picked up within about a block from where they live, taken to school, sometimes then taken to a second school, and brought safely home at the end of the day.
Why can't we deport all illegal alliens? We dug the Panama Canal, invented radio, television, the telephone and the cell phone, we put 100,000 men across the beaches at Normanday and put a man on the moon, several times. Why can't we deport them all?
Tim*| 8.2.10 @ 6:37PM
Obama is attempting to Sabotage America.
This Will Not Stand.
The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates.
Real Tea Party Change In November .
fantum| 8.2.10 @ 6:49PM
MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL OFFERS $1 MILLION TO KILL ARIZONA SHERIFF
Emails are being sent offering a million dollars for Sheriff Joe Arpaio's head and offering a thousand dollars for anyone who wants to join the Mexican cartel.
Obama has emboldened the criminals. They can now operate freely without fear of being stopped and questioned! Obama and Judge Susan Bolton should be very pleased.
Mexican Drug Cartel Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head...
http://usataxpayer.org/htm/vids.asp?A=11351523
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM DEDICATED TO REBUILDING AMERICA UNDER SOCIALISM and with deference to Muslim Law. In order to do this he must cause the collapse of our current government, family-values and freedoms.
OBAMA IS ALLOWING THE BORDER INVASION TO CONTINUE POURING DRUGS, CRIMINALS, MEXICAN GANGS AND MILLIONS OF FREELOADERS INTO AMERICAN SOCIETY.
Our Own Government Has Become Our Enemy...
http://usataxpayer.org/htm/vids.asp?A=3853859
fantum| 8.2.10 @ 6:52PM
Dogs and Democrats
This morning I went to sign up my dogs for welfare. At first the lady said, "Dogs are not eligible to draw welfare." So I explained to her that my dogs are mixed race, unemployed, lazy, can't speak English and have no clue as to who their daddy's are. They expect me to feed them and to provide them with free housing and medical care.
So, she looked in her policy book to see what it takes to qualify for welfare.
My dogs get their first checks on Monday.
DO YOU REALLY THINK THESE GUYS ARE HERE TO MOW LAWNS AND PICK LETTUCE?
Arizona Border Seizure...
http://usataxpayer.org/htm/vids.asp?A=57942696
Obama Gives $7.5 BILLION to Pakistan...
Obama Gives $400 Million to Palestinians...
Obama Gives $23 Million to Kenya, for ABORTIONS!
http://usataxpayer.org/?0055577011
Tim| 8.2.10 @ 6:53PM
And now we have drug Cartels opening texting and printing message that offers a one million $$
bounty for the Arizona Sheriffs head.
What in the F is Home Land Security waiting for?
Operation search and destroy needed to happen months ago.
and if Obama won't protect this country from Hoods than our military has to in the form of martial law.
Melvin| 8.2.10 @ 8:43PM
Big sis and her inept fool of a sidekick Eric Holder are too busy chasing Tea Party Members.
The White House would look at is as a favor to them if the Cartels got a hold of old Joe.
Remember we are now enemies of the State. Hmm wasn't there a motion picture name that?
squirrelena| 8.3.10 @ 4:55AM
In the ninth paragraph, "DHS will not grant deferred action or humanitarian parole to the nation's ENTIRE illegal immigrant population".
Please note that it doesn't say it won't parole some of them. Does that mean one, a thousand or all but one or one thousand?
David | 8.3.10 @ 3:52PM
The repubs ought to be making lots of noise about how Obama, the dems, and the liberal judges have just emboldened the MEXICAN drug cartels to the point that they now feel free to openly offer a million dollars to kill an AMERICAN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. They should be screaming about through the election and until the immigration issue is resolved.
Sheriff Joe, please call a huge prime time press conference. Tease the liberal stations into covering it by leaking something about "retirement" or "wanting to spend more time with your family". You know the leftist media, leftists everywhere, and the illegals will be creaming their jeans at such a possibility.
Then, Sheriff Joe, you should look into the camera and publicly speak to Obama, the Dems, and Judge Bolton, and DEMAND that Obama provide you and all of your family members with exactly the same protection the prez and his family has. "You, Mr. President, have emboldened and provided cover for the drug cartels to the point that they think they can hire murderers to kill Americans - even its law enforcement officers - and get away with it. Mr President, if anything happens to me or any of my family, I ask all Americans to hold you personally responsible".
Does anyone else like it?
Thanks a lot you flippin' leftist morons.
fantum, like the dog story - good one!
brian| 8.4.10 @ 7:18PM
At what point do most people realize that Obama, his wife, and Emanuel are just Carol Mosely Braun, 2.0. The plan is simple.... promise enough things to the useful idiot classso that productive people that pay taxes are enslaved. It is a simple numbers game with more than enough useful idiots that can be first identified and then enlisted.
Hank| 8.5.10 @ 12:14AM
Enough is enough! Legal U.S citizens unite! Help take the steps to save our country take our jobs back and stop this illegal immigrant invasion. Support our cause before illegal immigrant criminals have more rights than us. This is our last stand! Also we must take steps to lower local city and state councilmen salaries too they are all robbing & hurting the people they serve. So please read and sign this online petition. "Petition to Reduce the Wages of Congress Men and Women from $174,000 per year to $50,000 per year at “change.org’. " Copy & Paste below link into your web address bar:
http://uspoverty.change.org/pe.....0_per_year
Pass it on!
M. Btok| 8.5.10 @ 12:58PM
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rhurt| 8.5.10 @ 2:15PM
Again Obama has proven that he is acting like a dictator, and with his covert agenda of Sharia all
of which has put this nation at peril. Obama knows
full well that Inpeach awaits him come November-so good luck on having a November election.
Steve Paramore| 8.6.10 @ 10:04AM
Well, of course Obama-Llama is NOT about closing our borders, and supporting any true redo of our immigration laws and policies. If that were to happen, not only would he be impeached immediately due to being unqualified to be the President of America, but he would be chained and forcibly removed from America as one of the millions of illegal invaders sucking money and benefits from honest Americans labors.