The American Spectator : Have the Republicans Learned Their Lesson?

robert r romano| 7.30.10 @ 6:34AM

unfortunately, what i am reading is the same old garbage in and garbage out.
First: What is the Republican agenda?
Are we a Republic? Sounds like a mobacracey to me.
Is anyone going to address the long term debt and the short term shortfall?
Jobs and industry? a pathetic effort is being made by our political leaders. We have gone from 96% self sufficiency in 1946 to zero today. Without new business start ups, how are we going to develop a skilled labor force?
Term limits? Who talks about this except Bloomberg, who wants to extend his own disaster.
Health care is something the Democrats developed as a crisis and the GOP swallows it in its usually gutless manner.
Where is the A team? Don't give me Obama lite (Romney), Huckaby, McCain, Gingrich, and company.
Where is Jindal? Petraeus? Pawlenty? Whitman?
Perry? Watts? Are there any others? Let me hear about them and their ideals.
Are we ready for the Tea Party as the party of the future?
The train is leaving and the GOP is MIA.
All i get are letters asking me to find out a stupid questionnaire about a lot of inane blather. And by the way, if you don't make a contribution please send $11 to cover the cost of mailing!
The Democrats and the GOP are spewing out the same old garbage. Perhaps they belong in the sanitation industry.
Lets go back to Eisenhower and Kenndy. They were the best years for this country and every other regime has disregarded fiscal responsibility, fair, not free trade. Private health plans , not the concoction of Romney, and the other Dems. You are right, the GOP CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT. We need a new draft of players throughout the whole system.

Donna| 7.30.10 @ 7:58AM

I am with you on your thoughts. I received that blather as you put it in the mail wanting money and was turned off and uterly disgusted by the GOP Leadership. If they had any strategic sense, they'd sieze the moment and the day.

Alan Brooks| 7.30.10 @ 8:36AM

That's why Ferrara's piece 'The Coming Resignation Of Obama' last month was such a crock.
Steele will be the one resigning, because someone will catch him in a motel with Heidi Fleiss or Xaviera Hollander.

canuckistani| 7.30.10 @ 1:08PM

Xaviera Hollander? Is she even alive? Maybe Steele's is into geezer love now......

aware| 7.30.10 @ 3:08PM

LOL!

SNIZZ| 7.31.10 @ 11:30AM

SNIZZ!

Eric Cartman| 7.30.10 @ 9:44AM

I'm supporting individual candidates - like Allen West. Go to his site and donate $10 - 20.

Separate from that, if the dumbass Republicans can't win in 2010, then they are truly the stupidest , the lamest, the most pathetic bunch of losers to walk the earth! If they don't understand the anger aimed at ALL politicians (and I mean you, idiots) and why we are angry, then they deserve to be horse-whipped.

What will happen, I fear, is that they will not know how to frame any argument, get all their facts wrong, let the pipsqueaks in the press bully them, won't command the arguments and finally end up sounding like that idiot Bush. The pathetic lunch room monitors and male cheer leaders grew up and became congressmen. The ball-less leading the uunuchs. Pathetic jerks.

Alan Brooks| 7.30.10 @ 10:51AM

I might listen if Repuglicans would come out and say "Obama will be worse than Carter", not because I think he will be worse than Carter, but if they say it then they have committed themselves; however there is too much hedging:
"what if Obama does turn out to be better than Carter? we would have cried wolf."

Franklin| 7.30.10 @ 5:02PM

We need to vote for the Tea Party candidates - they will change this country .. the Republicans are just another shade (Red) of Democrats.

PACoug| 8.1.10 @ 6:55PM

The paradox here is that even though the GOP is shot through with turncoat Ruling Class Wannabes like McShamnesty and Lindsey Grahamnesty, the Repuglicans are the nation's only hope to retain its freedom.

This is because without a MAJOR PARTY at its disposal, the Tea Party can do NOTHING but wave signs on the capitol steps and elect the nearest "not-a-democrap." And then whoever those "not-democraps" are, they will immediately start acting like democraps, and we'll lose our freedoms anyway.

We need to TAKE OVER the GOP and kick those miserable jerks like McLame out of the party. Our message must be, DOWN WITH THE RULING CLASS, UP WITH THE COMMON MAN! Any Repug with the stink of the ruling class on him/her gets ridden out of the party on a rail.

If we muster the numbers and strength to do this, starting in every precinct and flooding through the conventions, electing OUR people to control the party and sending McLame and his minions over to the Democraps where they belong, I promise you our numbers will explode. Right now I'm voting "not a Democrap" because I still don't have a choice.

But I'm going to every precinct meeting where delegates are voted on, to make sure from now on I'm damn well represented. I suggest you do the same.

Brigitte | 8.2.10 @ 9:06AM

Damn good advice!!!

R Martin| 7.30.10 @ 9:02AM

"Lets go back to Eisenhower and Kenndy."

Be careful here. There were three recessions during Eisenhower's eight years, and he opposed Republican efforts to reduce taxes. When Kennedy supported tax cuts the economic benefits were huge, but the trade0ff was that we got Lnydon Johnson as a successor, and he undid those benefits.

Alan Brooks| 7.30.10 @ 9:26AM

Plus he botched, to say the least, Vietnam.

Letitia Primrose| 7.30.10 @ 10:41AM

And don't forget Kennedy's blatant vote buying scheme in the West Virginia primary which cinched the nomination for JFK. That was voter fraud on a scale which makes the modern day actions of ACORN look positively pious.

arlo price| 7.30.10 @ 9:39AM

The parallels of United Flight 93 and the path that this country is on is shocking in its simplicity. "Let's Roll"

Eric Cartman| 7.30.10 @ 10:38AM

That's true, I just fear that the Republicans will but down the cockpit door, rip Obama and Pelosi from the pilot seats, jump in and continue the same glide path. Pathetic losers.

Clinton nee Publius | 7.30.10 @ 11:06AM

Amen. Every election we hear the same tired refrain from the conservative columnist suck-ups: "it's too important of an election to vote for real reform, so please vote for the Republican progressives instead of the Democratic progressives and we'll clean it up after you put them in power." They never clean it up and they never do what they say. They are already rubbing their hands together and dreaming of the dollars they will charge for access.

If we don't vote for real independent Tea Party candidates and/or real independent Libertarian Party candidates now, when will we?

The corruption will just continue and the tired line of "hold your nose and we'll get it cleaned up after you put us in power," line is just as corrupt as the liberal-progressive policies that are destroying our country - they just do it at a slower rate. BFD.

I don't care if my vote is viewed as a "waste" because I am voting for an independent. I don't care if you think I'm wasting my money by no longer supporting the Republican Party and giving it to the Tea Party.

Either you take a stand and start doing something about the problem or you remain part of the problem. As long as we are willing to give them our money and votes they will be willing to take them and continue to laugh down their shirtsleeves at us. If we elect true Tea Party independents then they will have to deal with us every day in order to attempt to continue their corruptions. The more of us in Congress there are, the less likely the corrupt Democrats and corrupt Republicans will be able to continue their schemes. That much cannot be debated.

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 11:24AM

Absolutely. Same old, same old.

Every election since President Reagan retired, over 20 years ago, we were told the same things: _THIS_ election is special; the Democrats are utterly evil; the Republic will end if the Democrats win; vote for the RINOs this one last time; the Republican Party will be cleaned up and made totally conservative after the election if you only support us this ONE LAST TIME.

The reality is that the Republican Party got more and more like the Democrats each election because the RINO leadership knew that they could roll us. The only reason we have the Tea Party today is because enough conservatives walked away from McRino that he was defeated. Then conservatives finally woke up and saw what was happening.

Nunya| 7.30.10 @ 2:44PM

I agree entirely. I'm tired of being lied to by RINO's who promise lower taxes and smaller government, who then do nothing of the sort. When W was elected I had great hope of eliminating government programs, of cutting spending, cutting taxes, and essentially doing everything possible to bring us back to where we need to be. My hopes were crushed under the "compassionate conservative" mantra and I ended up with spendthrift Congress and a President who, during his first 6 years, never saw a spending bill he didn't like.

There's not a smidgen of difference between the parties as they exist today. We have far too many Representatives and Senators who want to "reach across the aisle" or "go along to get along" instead of standing on principles. We have no statesmen in Congress or the White House any more. We have nothing but pandering and lying coming out of the cesspool called DC, and it's time for a drastic change.

To do what we've always done means we're going to get what we've always got.
It's time for change, alright. Vote 'em all out.

axbucxdu| 7.31.10 @ 12:09PM

Codevilla's quote of Papa Bush from Gorbachev's memoir says it all.

Jason, Texes| 7.30.10 @ 11:58AM

One term of six years for a senator and two, two year terms for a rep. Once their service to the country is complete they MUST leave Washington DC and if THEY are caught within a fifty mile radius of Washington, they will be SHOT on sight!!! We must rid ourselves of the scum in government or look forward to our children inheriting a third world ghetto much like the DRUG CARTEL CONTROLLED MEXICO. Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose, nothing ain't nothing if it ain't free! Lets give our children freedom, because what Washington(THE RULING CLASS) has been offering us for a long time sure ain't freedom!

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 5:06PM

I agree with your term limit idea - with a change.

2 - 6 year terms for Senators
4 - 3 year terms for Congressmen

that gives them 12 years each and allows them time to learn the ropes and provide enough time to actually get something done.

By changing the House of Reps from 2 to 3 years, we'd give them some time to legislate rather than raising funds constantly. After all, 2 years was put in place when the world was a less complex place, and money wasn't the be all and end all in politics.

Clinton nee Publius| 7.31.10 @ 10:16AM

OMG, I need to see the doctor! Purple and I agree on something. Quick write this down. Jesus may come down from heaven. Play 506, 7, 30 and 10 for the lottery.

Good point, purps. My fear is they would corrupt even that. Absolute power...

Jay| 8.1.10 @ 9:20AM

W. F. Buckley's comment about being represented by the first five names in the phone directory have lead me to think our reps need to be drafted for mandatory terms not to exceed 6 years - period - and treated just like we treat our lowest ranking military members: no perks, no advantages, no pensions. Think of the money that would be saved on elections, and we could hardly be served any worse...

Peter Verkooijen| 7.30.10 @ 3:12PM

Romney would be an absolute disaster. None of the losers of 2008, including Palin, have any chance. Here's the problem for Republicans; socialists have hijacked/coopted liberalism, which everywhere in the world means capitalism and individual liberty. The Founding Fathers were classic liberals. So as long as Republicans run as conservatives versus liberals, they have a huge disadvantage. If Republicans ran on Liberty versus socialism, they would win in landslides.

Mitch Daniels/Paul Ryan 2012

or

Mitch Daniels/Allen West 2012

Paul Blackman| 7.30.10 @ 11:18PM

I have said this to anyone who'll listen for the past 12 months. The only Republican who has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the election in 2012 is Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour.

1. Defeated popular Democratic Governor to become only the second GOP governor in Mississippi since Reconstruction.

2. Won a second term at a time (2007) when the GOP was on the nose.

3. Handled Katrina impeccably unlike Gov. Blanco (D-LA) whose ineptness Gov. Jindal can thank for his job.

4. Term expires in Jan 2012 just in time to make a full tilt. No incumbency, but no embarrassment of defeat either.

5. Was Chairman of the RNC in Clinton's first term in office which led to Republicans taking the House and Senate.

6. Has been a Republican before it was fashionable in Mississippi. Ran against Sen. John Stennis in 1982.

7. Can legitimately stand on his Conservative principles. Does not need to lean on Tea Party to gain support.

8. Has been doing things that Presidential candidates do, like hold fundraisers and visit Iowa.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 4:14PM

I have always really liked Haley Barbour and would love him as President. Imagine a Barbour/Palin ticket or vise-versa. There are many good conservative Republicans in our midst, contrary to the moaners and complainers. I'd like to see just one single one of them take up their big complaining mouths and go run for office themselves. Put your money where your mouth is. Put up or shut up.

Deborah D | 7.31.10 @ 7:57AM

Mitch Daniels/Paul Ryan -- a dream team ticket, IMHO. I love Allen West, but let's get him elected first!! Then, by all means...he's a real American!

snizz!| 7.31.10 @ 11:35AM

oh snizz, snizz!

vtwin| 8.1.10 @ 1:30PM

“Lets go back to Eisenhower and Kennedy. They were the best years for this country”

Thanks to Franklin D Roosevelt!

nilssen| 8.1.10 @ 6:32PM

The GOP is doing exactly the right thing: When your opponent is self destructing, don't disturb the show!

Jordan| 8.2.10 @ 3:59PM

I agree. We should go back to the golden age of Eisenhower and Kennedy. We can start by bringing back the top tax bracket of 90% just like it was in the good ol' days.

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 6:42AM

If the Republicans were a football team this would be their offense: their quarterback would spike the ball on each of the first three downs. That way they wouldn't offend anyone by actually trying to do something conservative. In politics, these spikes are meaningless gestures like constitutional amendments which have no chance of passing.

Then on fourth down the Republican quarterback would run backwards for 15 yards, then down himself. This would show that they are "bipartisan". It would satisfy the liberal tendencies that Republican politicians have, and would be an attempt to win Democratic "independent" voters, which seems to be the only thing Republican politicians care about.

Then on defense, the Republican would shift into a very loose "Prevent" defense. This would allow the Democrats to make a lot of left-wing yardage, which would win Republican politicians praise in the media and would help their real, left-wing goals. Then some of the Republican defenders, especially the RINOs, would "accidentally" fall down while on defense, allowing the Democrats to score touchdowns. Again, this is what the Republican politicians really want.

The result is that no matter who wins the ball keeps moving to the left, and socialist legislation keeps getting passed. There is no serious attempt to move the ball to the right.

Deborah D | 7.30.10 @ 9:24AM

Excellent description of the politics as usual Republicans. Please, wake up, Republicans -- we can't afford this any longer, either fiscally or morally. If you Republican politicians love your country, you'd better damn well show it if you get the honor of a majority in the House and/or Senate.

Eric Cartman| 7.30.10 @ 10:13AM

Good analogy. Just one thing wrong with it: The Republicans don't have any football playes in the leadership. They have male cheerleaders (Trent - Ra Ra - Lott), Barbershop Quarteters, you have to know there are a bunch of former(?) Insurance Salesmen in there, whatever Denny Hastert did (knitting bee champ?) , They should be at war. But alas, they will fumble around for a narrative (guess they don't have radios) and let the Left control the dialog and argument, "disagree" without being "disagreeable" (meaning hand the discussion over to the Lefties), talk to us in legislature-speak and talk down to us, etc., ect. The script is getting tiring.

Warrior | 7.30.10 @ 10:25AM

They are politicians first which is why we are screwed either way. Look at how the party turned on Jim Bunning for attempting to force minimal fiscal sanity with Paygo on an unemployment extension. So while we the R's cry socialism on Obamacare and auto bailouts, while they have selective amnesia about SCHIP, Medicare prescription drugs and that W saved AIG and the auto workers unions before Obama could double down on all this.

These people are all politicians first and that is the true problem.

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 7:02AM

The Republican pundits tell us that we can't have a platform, that we can't win if our politicians campaign on specific issues.

Yet, the Democrats _DO_ have a platform, and they won. Each and every Democratic presidential candidate ran on the same (evil) left-wing agenda (health care, cap & trade, amnesty...). The Democats in Congress ran on the same issues.

Then when the Democrats won the election they did everything in their power to pass that evil agenda. Some of them have sacrificed their political careers to pass some of that stuff.

SO WHY CAN'T REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS DO THE SAME THING? Why can't they make specific conservative promises, then keep them once in power?

sami| 7.31.10 @ 9:31AM

Why?

Very simple, and it's already been said here ad infinitum - they might make those conservative promises to get elected, but will never keep them because at their core they are liberals as well, just to a different degree than their Democrat counterparts.

For all of them, it's only about joining the Ruling Class and staying in Washington, and it always will be, because not enough people in this country will ever care until it's too late.

Average Infidel| 7.30.10 @ 7:05AM

Well as much as I would like to believe the Republican party "gets it" they don't. I can think of many reason why neither party deserves the American vote, but the biggest reason is, they both continue to flout the American Constitution as their personal ass wipe, they both regard themselves as the "better" than each other only trying to out due one another, falling all over their insane reasons as to why they continue to disregard the very foundations of our Representative Republic. To say the least I am not impressed with the current crop of CONgress critters or the senile bunch at the top. They both are traitors to this republic and the sooner everyone realizes this one point the better We as a free People will be.
The very first thing that is needed is to investigate the "won" and his dealings with the communist party members, the islamist connection (s), the radicals (czars) he has installed to by-pass his Constitutional duties and requirements, his inability to understand what the connections are to a check and balance system and the most importent of all, why has he spent over a million dollars to hide the truth of a $10.00 question. And where in the hell are the so-called Republicans on this issue, as always within the minority position, awol of their senses and their duty to faithfully execute their responsibility to uphold the rules of law. No, hardly impressed. I have come to the realization, if you have been there more than one term, and didn't go back home to continue with your personal skills in the private sector, you have not only failed as an individual in your duty to the American publicduties but have proven beyond a shadow of anyone's doubt, you are there to enrich yourself, and yourself only. Yeah I know us peeon out here in the flyover country might be a lot of thinns less desirable to your elitness, but we know the difference between a jackass and a clown when we see them and as traitors to this Republic you have much to account and answer to.

Mimi| 7.30.10 @ 8:37AM

WOW... You just knocked it out of the park!!! The whole Congress of both parties should read this while looking in the mirror. The founders expected" " To leave you farms, and stores to go to Congress to serve your country for two years ... then return home, having done your DUTY!.....During the health-care debate you saw on T.V. One after one totter up to the podium barely able to walk. I don't believe in age discrimination, but my GOD....Get some young blood in there.....[ie]Charlie Rangel..at 80 years old after twenty elections, [40] years. Enough already!!!

Warrior | 7.30.10 @ 10:46AM

Bingo!!! We as a country need to enforce the enumerated powers and not let them do anything additional for any reason. If they believe the Constitution is flawed then let them use the amendment process as prescribed. This was made simple for us many years ago and we've allowed politicians for too long to skew everything.

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 6:24PM

The Founders didn't make it very easy to Amend the Constitution - anyone that knows anything about the Constitution will tell you that - it takes 2/3 of each House of Congress and 3/4 of the States to ratify an Amendment - talk about herding cats. Notice the President has no role either.

Deborah D | 7.31.10 @ 8:00AM

I don't think Warrior was implying that amending the Constitution was simple. He just meant the Constitution spells everything out simply and now we have a politicians making things up as they go along, so they've made everything more difficult.

Clinton nee Publius| 7.31.10 @ 10:17AM

It's 2/3rds of each house OR 3/4rs of the states...

RCV| 8.1.10 @ 11:59PM

No, it takes both. 2/3rds of both houses of Congress to propose and 3/4 of state legislatures to ratify. There's the alternative of state ratifying conventions but that's never been used.

Brigitte| 8.2.10 @ 9:36AM

First of all, you cannot win, if you enter the game thinking you're going to lose. As Siegfried posted above, we all need to become active at the grass roots level, by attending Republican precinct meetings, bringing a friend, and speaking our mind. There is an anti-incumbent, anti-big-government-spending tsunami developing that we can ride to victory. Each of us can do our part to make it happen.

And if at first you don't succeed, try, try again!!
The Progressives did not get to their current position of power overnight, but that did not stop them from their quest. We can take a page out of their playbook.

Pat Fields | 7.30.10 @ 7:06AM

The problem is that the 'leadership' of both Parties has become irretrievably corrupted by the Plantation Scrip of the Banksters.

Just as the Marxies did with the former Democrat Party, Conservative Constitutionalists need to lay seige on the Republican shell and completely replace its 'leadership' with men and women who'll go hell-bent-for-leather in restoration of genuine Constitutional governance and restructuring of society on true Capitalist foundations of Private Property and Individual Determinism again ... concurrently, cleaning out the crooks who manipulate our markets by 'hardening' our currency in a specie format.

Given that the Fed's banknote only has a three cent residual value remaining from introduction in 1913, that can be accomplished with a 10 gram copper piece. Those 'coppers', if made mandatory to exchange for the banknotes, would make all national debt amortization possible in a VERY short time and free Production from the anchor of Interest Service to rebuild our wealth again!

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.30.10 @ 7:15AM

The last 60 years has been a government giveaway game of can you top this? Each side has escalated the bureaucracy and has contributed to the lack of wisdom and political freedom.

One of the problems is that gender and race permeate just about every piece of legislation coming out of Washington. This makes it increasingly difficult to transact business in the United States.

For instance, the health care bill has race commissions who will decide if health care is being distributed without regards to race. At that point gender and race will trump health care concerns as a means of securing health care.

The first action the Obama administration took was to pass the Lily Ledbetter law which allows individuals to sue decades after incidents. Let's face it, many will switch jobs and then decades later will sue, hoping for a jackpot jury. Since that law passed two million executive positions have disappeared from our shores.

The financial regulations bill also contains many gender and race quotas. Banks who do business with the government are required to maintain race and gender quotas. It's in section 342.

This is the end game of all collectivism which is essentially big government. Outright racism and it's growing.

Although each essay had it's merits, Senator DeMint hit the nail on the head:

That dynamic has caused too many politicians to lose sight of what the voters send them to Washington to do: uphold the Constitution that proscribes a limited federal government. Congress is supposed to focus on national priorities and leave state and local decisions to states and local governments.

Although President Obama's bailouts and takeovers have been useful in uniting Republicans against his liberal agenda, the GOP is still not united in its commitment to cut spending and debt. The appropriations system has too much control and it will take an earthquake election to break its grip over the party.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.30.10 @ 7:43AM

By the way, I would like to see someone ask Snowe, Collins or Brown why they approve of racial and gender quotas since each one voted for the financial regulations bill. They can't say it was worth it just to get the bill passed so I would like to see their answer.

In essence they just took part in a collectivist act. Are they stupid? Political waifs?

Why doesn't the TAS have someone ask them and print their response?

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 7:58AM

The answer is that they are RINOs, who agree with the Democrats on nearly everything, except maybe the military. Like Specter and Crist, each of these three would happily switch to the Democratic Party and be accepted there if it seemed an advantage.

If those politicians answered a conservative's question at all, they'd likely say "Tough. You have no other choice. Either support me or a Democrat wins."

scotchieguy| 7.30.10 @ 4:35PM

The problem w/ the repubs is they are part of the "ruling class." They want to go along to get along. The only difference between the dems and the repubs is the dems want to run us off the cliff in ten years, while the repubs will do it in twenty. Just watch--when the repubs win in November, they will cave like a house of cards...it happens all the time. They'll be given a perfect opportunity to fix things, and they will screw it up. Mark my words.

Aelfgyva| 7.31.10 @ 11:49AM

Your radar is functioning correctly, scotchieguy. The best indicator of the future, is the past.

Brigitte| 8.2.10 @ 9:41AM

So, what do you want o do in November? Stay home?

dingdong| 7.31.10 @ 11:27AM

dong!

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.30.10 @ 8:12AM

For those unfamiliar with section 342 of the financial regulations smorgasbord just passed here's a good synopsis:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfro...../id/364795
The bill's affirmative action provisions — some suggest they are de facto quotas — would apply not only to the 29 federal agencies but also to all "financial institutions, investment banking firms, mortgage banking firms, asset management firms, brokers, dealers, financial services entities, underwriters, accountants, investment consultants, and providers of legal services" who do business with them.

Moreover, the law also applies to those firms' sub-contractors "as applicable."

Furchtgott-Roth says that means financial firms seeking to do business with the government will have to verify the racial and gender composition of their subcontractors — including office-cleaning crews, paper-shredding vendors, office-party catering firms — if they want to do business with the government.

Each Office of Minority of Women Inclusion will have an executive-level director, and support personnel, who will set standards to increase "participation of minority-owned and women-owned businesses in the programs and contract of the agency."

Each office director is required to recommend the termination of any contractor who refuses to show good faith in efforts to comply with the Section 342 standards.

Among the federal agencies affected:

* The 10 offices of the Department of the Treasury.
* The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
* The Federal Housing Finance Agency
* Each of the 12 Federal Reserve regional banks
* The Federal Research Board
* The National Credit Union Administration
* The Office of Comptroller of the Currency
* The Securities and Exchange Commission
* The newly established Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

If each of those offices employs just 10 people, each of whom meets the average federal compensation level of $200,000 including salary, benefits, and office-space cost, the program would cost $58 million a year in staffing and office space alone.

Furchtgott-Roth says the real cost of Section. 342, however, will be its impact on the financial sector.

The additional expenses and inefficiencies sustained by the companies that do business with the specified agencies would make them less competitive, she says.

The broad expansion of affirmation action programs in the bill went largely unnoticed, even after Furchtgott-Roth published an article on RealClearMarkets.com titled "Gender Quotas in the Financial Sector?"

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 6:30PM

They are guidelines without enforcement - no teeth to force compliance - it's a typical red herring from the righties - I'm surprised it wasn't on Fixed News yet.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.30.10 @ 8:41PM

And there you have the liberal mindset defined in all it's infamy. Although it's the law and it states it clearly, to liberals laws are guidelines. Therefore anything goes. Talk about a national mental illness. The best thing about Obama care is that some of these liberals may get mental health care and be cured.

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 10:19PM

Do you know what a guideline is? It is a suggestion or milestone to strive for.
What exactly would you have said, if there were penalties attached to them? But leave it to the righties to want to shoot and ask questions later.

You do realize the AZ law supporters say exactly the same thing - it's only a guideline for the police, it's not enforced with penalties?

You're arguing out of 2 sides of your face - which it is clear when it's something you like, it's okay, but when it isn't, your moral outrage is stirred.

You won't have to worry about being invited to join Mensa, Bubba.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.31.10 @ 9:51AM

Actually, I never heard the Arizona supporters state the law was only a guideline so like most liberals you're a liar too. Keep up the bad work.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.30.10 @ 8:41PM

And there you have the liberal mindset defined in all it's infamy. Although it's the law and it states it clearly, to liberals laws are guidelines. Therefore anything goes. Talk about a national mental illness. The best thing about Obama care is that some of these liberals may get mental health care and be cured.

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 5:46PM

While the finance bill is an abysmal piece of legislation, perhaps there is a silver lining: corporations will withdraw from "doing business" with the feds. This would be a good thing; there is a staggering amount of corporatism as it is, and any reduction in political entrepreneurship would be a good thing. Hat tip to "Myth of the Robber Barons."

wodiej| 7.30.10 @ 7:36AM

Glad to see that most on here get it. I don't trust Republicans any more than Democrats. They have become a bunch of politically correct pansies.

When I get my daily mailing from the RNC for money, it goes directly into the recycling bin. Don't even open it. I give to individual candidates.

As far as I'm concerned the only person fit to be on the Republican Presidential ticket in 2012 is Sarah Palin. She is unabashedly conservative, calls Obama out on a regular basis for his screw ups and failings but does so in a polite, respectful manner. She has been vetted, insulted, stalked, been mobbed with frivolous ethics charges, had her every move scrutinized and dissected. And what does she do? She smiles and laughs. She has a record of accomplishments as Mayor and Governor.

IF THEY NOMINATE ANOTHER WEASEL, I AM NOT VOTING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE.

Alan Brooks| 7.30.10 @ 11:00AM

"The last 60 years has been a government giveaway game of can you top this?"

First you say it began with Roosevelt in 1933, and now you say circa 1950? or did it begin with Lincoln?

DRed| 7.30.10 @ 12:38PM

"She has been vetted, insulted, stalked, been mobbed with frivolous ethics charges, had her every move scrutinized and dissected. And what does she do? She smiles and laughs."

Actually, she quit like a coward.

Margie| 7.30.10 @ 2:29PM

Liar!

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 6:41PM

Are you denying that Mama Grizzly quit and ran away from a fight? Really? Are you that out of touch?

Dixie Pixie| 7.30.10 @ 4:01PM

DRed – It did not bother you the Legal system and Ethics Laws were bent out of shape to serve as a instrument of oppression by the Democrat Party and their Liberal enablers.

Where do you draw the line when the Legal system can be used to drive a person out of their job on the political whims of the Ruling Elite.

In short, Where were you when an Injustice was done.
Who will protect you when the Liberals comes for you.
It will not be the Law as it is now the primary tool of oppression.

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 6:40PM

You mean like Don Segilmann in Alabama, or the US Attorneys' ouster by Gonzalez? Where were you when injustice was done? Who will protect you from the CONServatives, when they come for YOU?

Dixie Pixie| 7.30.10 @ 8:15PM

PurpleGuy – You have a talent for stepping into it chest deep.

Not only was Richard Scrushy an old classmate of mine, But I was often called in as a technical consultant to Health South. So I had a ground level view of the Health South blowup.

To make this as short as possible, I will go straight to the end. My old classmate sits in a cell in the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary and Don Siegelman walks free due to his Democratic Party contacts.

Believe the Democratic Party propaganda if you must. But do not tell me what I have seen with my own eyes is not the Truth.

I have seen the face of Democratic Party injustice closeup.

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 10:13PM

What a hoot! The 2 US Attorneys appointed by Bush in Alabama are still there - what Democratic party injustice? The guy was railroaded for political, not justice, reasons.
Your old friend is in prison because he belongs there, and Siegelmann is planning to sue for loss of income etc. all this time. It takes a while, but the Justice system works, even if Karl Rove tries to tinker with it.

Dixie Pixie| 7.30.10 @ 10:45PM

PurpleGuy – You simply refuse to get it.

When two people are convected for the exact same crime and one sits in jail and the other walks the streets free due to his political contacts, that is the definition of a injustice.

End Of Line.........

Dixie Pixie| 7.30.10 @ 10:54PM

PS ::::
Carl Rove was never involved in the Siegelman case. The Federal Courts found it so.
It was a Democratic Party “Red Herring” from start to finish.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 12:47PM

Nice job, Dixie P.! Bravo!

Dixie Pixie| 7.31.10 @ 4:18PM

Thanks Margie.
Any support is greatly appreciated.

The real horror is Democrat injustices are accumulating daily.
The Party minions have killed off the concept of equality under the Law.
Now the USA has a graduated system of legal privileges with the Democrats on top.
The Republican party has given no sign of dismantling the privilege system.
It appears the Republican's only want to trade places with the Democrats.

Margie – Keep those posts coming as I love to your wit and eloquence posted.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 9:53PM

Dixie P. ~ Wow. Wit & eloquence, thanks!

I truly want the Republicans to get it together, and I know that they need to wake up from their slumber~ in a lot of cases~ not ALL of them are awful! Remember not a ONE voted for the fraud that is the "Health Bill."

Still~ there is not another party to realistically vote for, is there?
Dixie P., it has gotten so bad lately and yes now with this latest fraud that's been perpetrated upon us about the restriction on us getting info under the Freedom of Information Act concerning the doings of our government~ is that what you're referring to? I heard it on the radio the other day. It is indeed Socialism and it is reminding me more and more of the time in Germany right before Hitler took over and the people knew it was coming and the ones who could and were awake to the truth got out of Germany. But now it is happening here and where can we go? We have nowhere to go and so we will have to fight and if we can't win at the ballot box then I hope we do have a civil war because I would rather go out fighting than give in to the gestapo thugs.

It is so sad to see this happening and these days it does bring me to tears. How much more does God weep for us, for our pride? I know that He does.

"But if ye will not hear it, My soul shall weep in secret places for [your] pride; and Mine eye shall weep sore, and run down with tears, because the LORD'S flock is carried away captive." Jer. 13:17.

let him put his mouth in the dust-- there may yet be hope; let him give his cheek to the smiter, and be filled with insults. For the Lord will not cast off for ever, but, though He cause grief, He will have compassion according to the abundance of His steadfast love; for He does not willingly afflict or grieve the sons of men." Lam. 3:29-33.

Dixie Pixie| 8.1.10 @ 5:27PM

Let thy heart not be troubled Margie.

I do not believe a 2nd Civil War is imminent or even likely.

I think the USA has made the jump from a Nation/State to a actual Civilization in itself.
America has reached the exalted ranks among the Romans, Chinese, Hindi, Persians Mayans and Babylon. In short the future historians will look back and rank this American Civilization as one of the high points in human history.

Consider, The period between the fall of the Soviet Union and the rise of Islam denoted by 9/11 was a period of total global dominance by the USA. No where in human history has a people reached such levels of power, wealth, and capability. One writer even went so far as to write the “End of History” as the culmination of human history.

Today the average American has real powers that would be considered God-like only a few centuries ago. The ability to fly anywhere in the world within a matter of days. The ability to communicate with almost anyone in the world at real time. The ability to utilize power in kilowatts at the flick of a switch.

Nowhere in America is anyone under foreign domination or occupied by a foreign army. We do the occupying.

There has not been a food famine in memory. In fact the opposite is the reality.

In no other period in human history has a populace had such goods and products imported from around the world at such a low cost. Most people in history had to make do with goods produced locally at great cost if produced at all.

The USA was so powerful and wealthy we made a luxury purchase of a President who had no ability or even desire to do the job. Obama's only talents is to look good and enjoy the perks. No wonder the staff and allies are running a muck.

I do believe the USA is looking at the end of America’s First Golden Age.
A diminishing of capability, wealth and power is upon us.
There will be ever lesser resources to utilize.

The Republican Party’s major problem is the USA has bought far more government than it can afford.
The Federal Government must retrench and the headcount cutback will be politically messy.
Frankly I doubt the Republican Party can turn the USA around.
But it can be done. The USA has surmounted far more massive problems with less resources.

So keep your heart bright, oh graceful Margie.
It is not as bad as it looks and the USA is nowhere near any really serious problems.

Bruce | 7.30.10 @ 4:08PM

Lying POS. She resigned as Governor for one reason and one reason only - so her family would not go bankrupt defending herself against BS ethics complaints brought by the same weasels that lied during her candidacy. Unlike many states, Alaska's Governor must pay his/her own legal bills when personally sued. They can't hide behind legal walls concocted in other states to cover a Governors ass. Also - to continue would have been contrary to her sense of basic fairness - having distractions that would keep her from being focused on the peoples business, to instead spend a ridiculous amount of time responding to insane FOIA requests, legal challenges to everything she tried to do, etc. And the scumbags who brought these trumped up charges KNEW this - that's why they did it - strictly as a harassment tactic. A coward? She has more guts and bigger balls than you and half the politicians in this country of either party. Use your real name or STFU about "cowardice", moron.

Louis Jenkins| 7.30.10 @ 4:39PM

Hear, hear, Bruce. That's exactly what happened to Palin. A pox on DRed and the rest of the trolls.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 12:48PM

I second that to Bruce. Hear, hear!

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 6:47PM

That's a nice list of talking points for public consumption ... but her actions speak way louder than her words.

She leaves office, publishes a book, which was in the works before she quit, banks $12 Million dollars, goes on a "book" tour for publicity, and gives speeches whereever she can collect the $100,000 speakers fee.

Now, I don't deny her making the money, but she's laughing at all you poor saps behind your back on the way to the bank.

When you don't even know what the Bush doctrine is, from your own party leader, and your claim to foreign policy credentials is that Vladimir Putin has to fly over Alaska to get to the United States, you sure aren't a good political choice to run anything in this country, let alone President... OMG, yeah, bring her on.

George True| 7.30.10 @ 7:47PM

Purptroll, does being that stupid come naturally to you, or do you have to work at it?

So Bruce lists a series of KNOWN FACTS, and rather than attempt to dispute known and provable facts, you simply dismiss them as "talking points". Nice try, but it didn't work. And if anybody is spouting talking points, it's YOU. The stubborn fact remains that Palin WAS hounded out of office by dozens of fraudulent "ethics" complaints filed by leftists like yourself for the express purpose of making it impossible for her to function as Alaska's chief executive.

As for the so-called "Bush Doctrine", it has multiple directives and as such it can and does mean different things to different people. It isn't like the Monroe Doctrine, for example, which had essentially just one directive. But as long as you brought it up, specifically what foreign policy experience did your lord and savior Obama have??? Oh, like, ahh.....NONE?!? And what executive experience did he have? Ohh....NONE? And how many states did he say we have.....57 wasn't it?

You leftists are just PO'ed because she didn't stay put where your brethren could continue to monkey wrench her. She turned the tables on you guys and also became a millionaire at the same time. That must really, really chap your hide.

You guys are so predictable, and so pathetic. "Palin didn't do what we tried to make her dooo! Waah, waah, waah!!!" It 's actually kind of fun to watch you guys collectively melt down over her.

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 9:59PM

I haven't had such a good laugh in while ... "The stubborn fact remains that Palin WAS hounded out of office by dozens of fraudulent "ethics" complaints filed by leftists like yourself for the express purpose of making it impossible for her to function as Alaska's chief executive." --- she's a wimp, she's no Grizzly. Hounded out of office is really not a virtue, or did you miss that, oh, Palin puppy?
Nobody was hounded more than Clinton with the right-wing ethics police, and yet, he stuck it out, showed his true mettle under fire. Palin hits one wall, cries and wimpers away, resigning the GOVERNORship of Alaska - are you kidding me? And, you think that bothers ME? Your reaction belies your words, chump. You're the one that's upset. She's a great punching bag, and such an easy target. She's got you by the shorties and you don't even know it.

"You leftists are just PO'ed because she didn't stay put where your brethren could continue to monkey wrench her. She turned the tables on you guys and also became a millionaire at the same time. That must really, really chap your hide. " --- LMAO - Wow have you got that wrong ... I pray she runs and wins the nomination - please make her do it.
I suspect Ms Winky Dink has no intention of running, she just likes to "stiffen" all the male Republicans to spend money, . On HER. hahahaha....

Bush Doctrine is complicated? She didn't even know what it was. I suspect you wouldn't know what the Monroe Doctrine was either. How about the Powell Doctrine? Think she knows that? She's a loser, and y'all know it. But, bring her on, I say ... I suppose she might not forget where she was on stage wandering around like Grandpa McCain, you betcha!

arlo price| 7.30.10 @ 10:59PM

purplehelmetguy trying once again to peddle what he believes is "SHINOLA"

ROFLMAO

More 'shinola' please, tell us how obumbler the ' pimp daddy' is so qualified. It is a major accomplishment to vote 'present' most of the time, eh?

George True| 8.1.10 @ 8:39AM

"Verily thou dost protest too much."

It's funny to see you work yourself into such a lather. Nothing you just said is actually true.

But again, nice try.

carnot| 8.1.10 @ 6:41PM

now we can add age bigot to misogynist. you're on a roll Mr Specious!

9.5% and climbing soon.

carnot| 7.31.10 @ 9:24AM

hmmm...how could that be any worse than the buffoonery that has been Obama's foreign policy?

carnot| 8.1.10 @ 6:34PM

yeaaaa.....kinda like Obama laughing at you after cutting his multi-million dollar deal with Rezko.

Mt Specious!

9.5% and soon to be climbing.

PersonFromPorlock| 7.30.10 @ 4:24PM

The test of any general is how he handles a retreat. Palin 'retreated' from the governor's office and is now in a far better position than she would have been in had she stayed.

I'd say that was pretty well done.

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 6:52PM

She wasn't a general in a war. She's a politician who quit. She's a quitter, and you know it. That label will stick to her like glue and dispel all hope of a run at the Presidency. How could she ever answer the question "What confidence can you give us you won't quit the Presidency if the heat gets too hot? " She's toast as a candidate and she knows it - that's why she's banking all she can while the gravy train is serving up.

President Palin, Ha! Rename the WhiteHouse, Palin Place, with porno star Levi Johnston (who's junk might end up in some ads), Bristol, "oops Im pregnant again", and Sled King hubby... yep, it would be entertaining, but oh, so not happening.

George True| 7.30.10 @ 9:26PM

Ahh, yes.....another worn-out leftist talking point - try to pin the "Q" label on Palin. But it hasn't really worked all that well, has it?

Let's see, her husband has been a successful, hard-working North Slope oilfield worker and supervisor for DECADES, also has a successful seasonal commercial fishing business, is a private pilot, is a world champion snow machine racer, and yet.....in the bizarro world that you inhabit these things are.....negatives??? Nope, don't think so, ace. But nice try.

And Levi Johnston has exactly squat to do with Palin and whatever attributes and abilities she has (or lack thereof in your alternate universe).

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 10:10PM

Ha, this is fun, Palin Place ... Levi is set to become Sarah's Son-in-Law, and his Johnson on display in the WhiteHouse. Think Levi and Bristol will "do it" in the WhiteHouse? The Lincoln Bedroom? Levi has exactly to do with the Palin character and family values, which apparently is to make a family, before you have consecrated in the eyes of the Lord. Oh, our vines have tender grapes.... you know the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Wonder how wonderful it is and what it says that Mama Grizzly taught Bristol to have a great time with Levi, with his levis off? With no protection? Yep, that's family values we can believe in!
The fact that Sarah's husband, whats-his-name, a name that you don't even know, is a regular guy is great, but not much of an asset in the WhiteHouse, is it? Maybe a nice campaign prop, like Trig, but not much real use to Sarah or the country. We had one guy everyone wanted to have a beer with, and look what he left us - the incompetent, but oh so Joe Six Pack moron, Bush, the original party boy Cheerleader-in-Chief - didn't hold a regular job 'til he was 40, and then only using Daddy's name to get anywhere.

Any other takers?

Dixie Pixie| 7.30.10 @ 11:26PM

OK, You are on PurpleGuy.

When was it when you started to confuse verbal dexterity with intelligent reasoning?

Even after nailed to the wall with facts and logic, you act like some bizarre Human / Squid hybrid.
Like a squid, you emit massive flows of nonsensical and irrelevant ink to cover the fact that you are simply wrong. Can you ever admit that you were wrong, or even simply mislead?

Or does the Democratic Party paid you by the word.
If so how much?

End Of Line..........

Dixie Pixie| 7.31.10 @ 5:12PM

From your silence PurpleGuy, I take it you have conceded defeat.

In return I will admit I made a mistake.
In the above post I used the past-tense in error.
Please accept my apology for the error of using 'paid' for 'pay'.

See how easy it is to admit a mistake.

George True| 8.1.10 @ 8:46AM

So, since you have no argument, and obviously are not able to successfully refure KNOWN FACTS, you go into a paroxysm of ad hominum (and meaningless) name-calling. Just like all leftists. You of course are entitled to have your own opinion on the matter of Sarah Palin or any other matter. But you are not allowed to make up your own set of facts. And so far nothing you said is factually correct.

carnot| 8.1.10 @ 6:38PM

ahhh...is Mr Specious in a tiff? so frightened! so exercised by this little woman who is so fraudulent. wait...could he simply be a misogynist in Liberals clothing?

9.5% and climbing soon!

carnot| 7.31.10 @ 9:25AM

you must detest Sen Webb then.

Aelfgyva| 7.31.10 @ 11:57AM

Sarah Palin is a woman of high standards who believes in and has lived the principles she verbally supports. She is a lightning rod to the left and makes them froth at the mouth, and this is a very valuable and healthy service. I fear, however, that she is not, nor ever will be presidential material, and to view her in an executive light is a misjudgment that could benefit Obama and the left in the coming election.

Jim Mulcahy| 7.30.10 @ 7:45AM

Two things: 1) if the Republicans do win back both the house and the Senate, they had better listen to the people and not some rent-seeking special interest if they want to remain in power. The big lesson from the 1994 takeover is that power corrupts. By 2005-06 the Republicans were indistinguishable from the hacks they had replaced.
2) I, for one, don't want the Republicans to regain the House. I want them to get the Senate to control any Supreme Court appointments. If they control both then Obama will be able to whine that it's all their fault that nothing is getting "accomplished", thus making his re-election more likely. Let Pelosi try to screw things up for 2 more years. There are enough conservative Democrats to put a stop to the silliness that it will look like she and Obama can't govern (and they can't).

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 3:26AM

The language has got to change>

" . . . remain in power" must become "continue to serve."

As for the Republicans, let me make this perfectly clear, as M. Barone stated: "My instinct is that voters are demanding more radical cuts in spending and in rollbacks of Obama Democratic programs than professional politicians are inclined to believe."

From where I sit, "demanding" is too polite and soft a term. People are angrier than just "demanding." If the Repubs don't get it, they are history. Hell hath no fury as a people scorned, lied to, led down the garden path, manipulated, stolen from, and ignored.

Sent to oppose the Left, the Repubs got in bed with them instead. Let's just see how the senate votes on Elena Kagan. If there's no fillibuster of her then we'll know they still don't get it.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 12:52PM

I'd say the Repubs are history~ yes as individuals, but not as a party. If your goal is the destruction of the party, I can't agree. I do agree with voting out the bad apples and electing stronger conservatives. Shouldn't that be our goal?

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 4:09PM

"If your goal is the destruction of the party . . . "

I would like the Republican Party to move to the right and oppose the Democrat Leftist Socialist Progressive agenda. In so far as the Republican Party fails to do that and continues its practice of appeasement, even promotion, of the progressive agenda, they themselves will make the party merely redundant. I have no power to destroy the party, nor do I desire it -- it's doing just fine destroying itself by its own failure to oppose statism.

Every Republican politician needs to understand one thing: conservative Republican voters have renounced voting for the lesser of two EVILS. If the national party cannot field principled conservatives, then they will have to try to get elected without us. Good luck with that.

I've mentioned before, Margie, and I'd like to restate it here: the establishment strategy is to campaign to the right in order to snooker the base and then once in office to govern from the center left. And the base is supposed to happy that, well, things could have been worse (faster road to despotism) if the other side had won.

Meanwhile, brick by brick this grand edifice that once was America has turned into a near bankrupt and morally degenerate state.

You may take the pragmatic approach, Margie, and that is fine. But I'm not going to. And not because I want to destroy the Republican Party but because I want to see our nation returning to a love for limited government and growing in its passionate tenacity to defeat Big Brother statism.

I recommend Solzhenitsyn's In the First Circle to anyone here who dares a glimpse at our future if we continue to appease the Left. A vote for a RINO is a vote for the Left.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 4:32PM

Well then, by voting for conservatives early on we ensure the right candidates win. We are not on different pages. But when not enough people are voting~ or for some reason the best conservative candidate hasn't won the nomination, I will still vote for them because I wish for our party to be in power rather than the Left. I guess that's where we do differ. A vote for a RINO is in my opinion better than a vote for the Left, and they only get my vote for that reason alone. For example I didn't want McCain to get the nomination, but Fred Thompson. He dropped out of the race and so I voted for McCain.

My reasoning does not say that that vote was a vote for the Left. We would have had Sarah Palin as V.P. and a Republican President. Now how would that have been worse than what we have now? (In the words of John McGlaghlin (sp.?)~ "I ask you.!")

That also ought not be a usable reason to demonize those of us who do so. (Not saying you are), Is it better to cut off your nose to spite your face so to speak when it comes down to it? To say that a vote for the Republican candidate that is not as conservative as we wish is a vote for the Left is just not true.

Perhaps with the anger and determination of both viewpoints the voters will come out in droves to vote in the primaries and help choose strong conservatives like never before, and we will see a landslide in the soon to come 2010 elections, and for the Presidency.

Onward!

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 5:57PM

Good comments. And I agree that with the frogs now jumping out of the boiling Obama water, they may yet have enough life and fight in them to reverse roles with the Obama-ite dealers-in-national-death, the statists, and turn up the heat on their would-be killers of liberty sufficient to overcook them instead.

I do doubt, however, that we'd have a Tea Party had McCain won, and we frogs would be meekly simmering, even unto political/national death.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 9:24PM

Thank you, darcy. Sounds right to me, but as to your last paragraph~ what we may have had with McCain/Palin I doubt could be worse than what we are having to go through now with this monster of a President and his minions with their Socialist agenda being foisted upon us.

In all though I will heartily agree with and respect your strong determination and zeal for conservatism. You sound like the type of person or friend I would not mind having in my court, or on my side. I do pray that there is still hope for our great republic to get in order, and that all of this anger and stirring up of the country and its citizens will bring us huge conservative wins~ for the next 100 years, at least!

martin j smith| 7.30.10 @ 7:50AM

This coming election is about one thing for me: A referendum oon the Socialism Agendea--Yes or No. It is not about the Republicans except in so far as they are the "opposition". So I will vote NO by voting for Republicans. Do I believe in the Republican Party-NOPE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, I would say it is not a question of the Republicans DESERVING a big victory. It is a question of the DEMOCRATS getting a crushing defeat-=-as crushing as possible. That is what it amounts to. Oh yeah, no doubt the Republicans ( individuals any way) will skrew up. I have no doubt. But if people are looking for "perfection" out of politicians I would would say you are dreaming.
My view and I hope others pick this way of thinking is lets defeat the Democrat Party then complain about how stupid the Republcan are acting.

Louis Jenkins| 7.30.10 @ 8:33AM

Yes, a referendum on the Socialist Agenda, and if we lose, then we are in for a terrible time. Some of the Republicans I believe in, others I cannot.

Blackwatch| 7.30.10 @ 5:20PM

I think that it is very important for everyone to know where their congressperson actually lives so that when they are home on vacation you can drive over to their house and have a civil conversation with them on their front porch about why they are continuing to f*ck the next three generations with all of this insane spending.

Put their answer on YOUTUBE. Ridicule is our best weapon. Let's use it. The Ruling Class needs to understand we know where they live. We also can find out if they are storing their yachts in states with cheaper taxes, a f*cking call girls, running a call-boy service from their apartment, or taking four rent controlled apartments, not paying taxes etc.

Don't be afraid of them--take control of your Government--those bastards work for us you know.

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 3:30AM

Your post, Blackwatch, perfectly reflects America's swelling rage. YouTube, yep.

When the pols start to fear the people then we'll know we're heading in the right direction.

Franklin| 7.30.10 @ 6:54PM

Naw, we need to vote for the Tea Party and throw Democrats and Republicans out .. D's and R's are the same, just a little different by degree. 11/02/2010. Libertate!

JP| 7.30.10 @ 8:36AM

The GOP is about as moribound as the Dems. But the GOP is the only party conservatives can caucus with. For every Chrsitie there's a McCain. For every DeMint there are 2 Lindsay Grahams. For every Coburn there is a Dick Lugar.

So, if the GOP captures the House and comes within a few seats of majority in the Senate, what will they do? On the positivse side, the GOP will act as a break to the Obama agenda. As a negative, they will allow Obama to offload his incompetency onto them. And if the Obama recovers in the polls in 2011-2012, the GOP will cave. The Dems are patient; they got thier big ticket items passed, and they are posed to blame the GOP for all of the problems Obama and co. created (including ObamaCare). I have no faith that the "old hands" inside the GOP have the will, the ideas, or the street smarts to turn the tables on Obama.

The only saving grace we have is in the intelligence of the average voter. Even the independents are not fooled by what Team Obama has wrought. As I stated in earlier posts, that it will take several election cycles to begin real reform in this nation. The old salts inside the GOP will not go quietly. It will take a concerted effort within each of the GOP's state organizations to field new politicians in the mold of Govenor Christie or Rep Paul Ryan. The last thing we need is another generation of cynical men and women whose only skill is to get re-elected.

Melvin| 7.30.10 @ 8:42AM

Each and every single one of the above posts are correct in each of their own way. They also follow the same thread. Fourteen or so people more or less agree on the same thing about the Republicans.
With that being said, times that by how many Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, and a large segment of disillusioned Democrats, the recipe for Republican politicians is failure, failure, and more failure.
The Republican leadership that was in place that allowed the Democrats to rise to take the House, Senate, and then the White House still firmly ensconced.
These Republican Country Club Blue Blood Progressive Elitists are not going to change the way they do business with the Democrats. Instead of 2010 Midterm Elections the Republican leadership will revert back to 2000 type of thinking.
We will again hear hosannas in how John McCain is still the Maverick, and how bipartisan Olympia Snow, Lindsey Graham, and Susan Collins is.
John Boehner will probably be nominated as Speaker of the House if the Republicans win back the majority and it will be down hill from there.
The only way things are going to improve for the Republicans is that if the leadership that has been tagged with homesteader status is changed by the voters.
These Republican homesteaders are what is holding back rising future Republican leaders in the House and Senate.
Look at the Democrats, Murtha, Kennedy, and Byrd. The only way that these octogenarians left public office is to be carried out on a stretcher., and this is the way the Republican leadership wants to go, because their afraid of passing the baton to a younger generation.
The only way that there is going to be reform in the Republican Party is to purge the ranks of these old elitist buzzards, then, and only then and just maybe there might be a ray of hope of voting in term limits.

Franklin| 7.30.10 @ 6:58PM

Unfortunately, you're right ... if the Republicans win, Obama will blame them for nothing getting done, and win again handily in 2012, maybe even giving another push back to the Democratic majority. It's all very depressing.

carnot| 7.31.10 @ 9:26AM

nope. I don't think so. it's sadly unfortunate for the victims....but as long as unemployment holds or worsens....Obama will get the blame.

9.5% and holding

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 8:56AM

On Republicans vs. Democrats...or Third Party?

I wrote the following comment in answer to a "Third (political) Party" advocate on another website last October.

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""When one is in the desert, and has only one horse...and out of water... the appropriate response is to walk beside the horse with a loop around one's hand and the saddle-horn.

One does not shoot the horse.

Yes, you and I both want to kick the Republicans in the butt...for lots of reasons. But!

They are the only horse we have in this "desert" of totalitarianism.

The worse we get dehydrated, the worse we need the darned horse.
We know, (generally), where the nearest water should be, but the horse will smell EXACTLY where the nearest water is, and it may just save our life. If you simply cannot quit bitching and walk, you will die in the desert. ""

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Alright, TEAM, let's get serious! Launching a third (political) party at this time is simply stupid. A third party vote is a wasted vote. I don't particularly enjoy writing that, but it is the simple truth. Both the Democrats and the Republicans have too much "infrastructure" to be defeated by a third party, short of a violent revolution.

I don't believe any of us with half a brain want a violent revolution in the dangerous world in which we live. Yeah, we would win that revolution, but what kind of world would we find at the conclusion of it? (Remember when the last "third Party" happened in 1860? OOPS!)

{So here is our game-plan: Find the "straight arrow" candidates among us and {catapult them into power. Then we keep a close eye on each one of them, and {fire them if they let us down.}

I am personally an "independent". I define that as ready to vote for the best candidate for a particular office. There is one problem, however. The lunatics on the "Left" always vote a straight, Democrat ticket, along with the ignorant, the lazy, and the millions of government employees. "Birds of a feather" included with all of the other metaphors with which we are so familiar. So, my default option has been Republicans most often these last few years even though they have so often disappointed me.

Together, as a TEAM, we can have our will implemented! Every single one of us has a unique set of needs and wants from our government, but all of us want a level playing field upon which to compete for jobs and in our business, and every one of us understands that government needs to be limited and prudent with our tax dollars. That is a great starting place. Oh! That, and let's fire as many communists and their regulators as we can find..

Even as I sit down to complete this article, Virginian conservatives are in the process of tearing up their support signs for their Republican gubernatorial candidate, Robert McDonnell. The Washington Post wrote some horrible articles about him, and in some Virginian minds he "folded".

Just how short are the memory spans .....of these idiots? Are they just stupid? Can't they remember what happened to our country last November?

People, forty million voters sat on their butts last November because they could not get "energized" by John McDufus enough to wander down to the polls and vote......or even fill out a mail-in ballot...or even get their damned voter registration cards updated!

Okay, McDufus is an idiot, but you know, if elected he would have bumbled along without trying to tear up our Constitution, and the dictatorship trying to happen right now...would not be happening.

Hmmmmm...come to think of it, perhaps this wake-up call was overdue. Perhaps we all needed our noses rubbed in our own mess to such a degree.

All right, now is the time to get organized nationally before the Republican nominating process begins. Let's become the vote bringers to the right kind of candidates, and trust me, the money will surely follow us to get them nominated, then elected.

Final Thought: Conservative, repeal minded Republicans MIGHT do the right things. We know the damned Democrats will not!

I believe November is our last shot to begin rebuilding our freedom short of (gulp)

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 9:20AM

Would you vote for Obama if he called himself a Republican?

Party labels mean nothing which is why I strongly support third-parties, voting against each and every RINO (as well as all the Democrats). An Obama Republican, one that votes for his agenda, is just as bad as a Democrat.

I never vote for a left-wing candidate of any type. Never vote for evil, including the lesser of two evils. Always vote for conservatives. If everyone had voted with me, we'd have a conservative president now, instead of either Obama or McCain.

Franklin| 7.30.10 @ 7:00PM

Why stupid for a 3rd party? No one said it was easy, neither was the Revolution - but this time maybe we can do without bloodshed. Tea Party in 2010!

Old Soldier| 7.30.10 @ 9:00AM

I have to agree with Quin Hillyer - the Republicans have done nothing to deserve control of the government. They lack the spine to resist the progressives. They lose their way because they have no core conservative beliefs.

But I hope they win because the Democrats are so much worse.

In the long run, the GOP had better learn to govern as conservatives (even if they are pretending). If they repeat their bait-and-switch big-spending ways, conservatives like me and will leave and never return.

breakn70| 7.30.10 @ 9:05AM

Very disappointing information on Pat Toomey. What in the world is he thinking? Two plus years as the head of Club for Growth and this is what he comes up with regarding judicial nominations. Pat, we supported you, not Arlen. We don't need you to become Arlen.

With notable exceptions DeMint, Ryan, Coburn, no the Republicans aren't ready. Look at their antipathy to the Tea Party.

Tim*| 7.30.10 @ 10:27AM

" Republican Senate candidate Pat Toomey officially announced Monday that he would not have supported Elena Kagan for the U.S. Supreme Court.

He details his reasons in an op-ed published in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. He explains in it why he had said he supported President Barack Obama's first high court appointment, Sonia Sotomayor.

"Ms. Kagan's record lacks the clear evidence of impartiality that Justice Sotomayor's had," Toomey wrote. "Her positions on the Commerce Clause and First Amendment suggest a view of federal power that extends far beyond constitutional boundaries. And her treatment of military recruiters raises doubts about whether her decisions are guided more by policy preferences than respect for the law."

And read :
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg.....40-109.stm

Kenneth E. MacAlister Jr.| 8.1.10 @ 1:58PM

Don't look now friend, but Team Toomey has also hired a few of Benedict Arlen's former campaign workers also. Yet another phony shows his true colors a la Scott Brown. The GOP haven't learned a damn thing!

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 3:54PM

We Pennsylvania Tea Party Rebels Support Pat Toomey.

"Toomey has nothing but space to work the middle, to go after moderate Republicans, independents, and Democrats," said Christopher Borick, a Muhlenberg professor and pollster. "He had the Republican base on the right at 'hello,' and there's no way he will lose it short of hugging Nancy Pelosi."

We Elect Pennsylvania's Next U.S. Senator Conservative Pat Toomey In November .

We Can See November From Our Houses .

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 4:44PM

" Based on his three terms in Congress, the conservative American Conservative Union (ACU) has assigned Pat Toomey a lifetime congressional rating of 97% . "

martin j smith| 7.30.10 @ 9:51AM

None the less folks --stop kvetching and vote as if your life depended on it. Which in fact it does. Just vote Republican regardless. Or do you want to have more years of total BHO and Left Socialist control ?
Putting it another was: With Socialist in control you wont even be allowed near the "Table". With a Republican, you might get within 100 feet and in some cases, allowed at the table. Stop complaining and vote. The entire idea of "learning ones lesson is stupid" This particular election is different from most others in one large aspect. We are confroted with two choices: YES OR NO
on Socialism. Which do you choose. I choose NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nancy in NC| 7.30.10 @ 2:47PM

Vote Republican...and then hold their feet to the fire. I write by Congressman weekly, as well as my Senator. I thank them when they vote conservatively, and chew their butts when they don't. I let them know that I'm watching them, and I'm involved.

Also, all politics are local. Start getting conservatives on your Board of Commissioners and at the state house. Attend public meetings, and speak up.

Most important, put your money where your mouth is. Support financially good conservatives. Also quit expecting government to do for you what you can do for yourself.

Franklin| 7.30.10 @ 7:03PM

Unfortunately, if Republicans win, Obama wins in 2012. Hanging everything around the Democrats neck now guarantees a switch to Republican with President and Congress in 2012. Then can really repeal or replace. Without it, nothing will change. let the people get their fill of Democrats and we'll be there to pick up the votes.

CantGetRight| 7.30.10 @ 10:00AM

Republicans have to make up their mind and decide what they are for. Repealing everything they don't like isn't going to work when the majority of the country voted for that. Wether you like it or not the democrats did what they said they were going to do.

If you are for reducing the debt and the size of government you can't do it by cutting taxes. This country bought more than it could afford and there's no way to pay for it without increased taxes, at the very least to let the majority of the Bush tax cuts expire. I know your argument that it's going to hurt the recovery but those taxes are in place and haven't done a thing since they've been there.

Nancy in NC| 7.30.10 @ 2:51PM

Then why, historically, do revenues go down when taxes go up?

What we need to do is to stop spending. That's what individuals do when the rubber meets the pavement...we cut to the bone...no more dinners out, no steak (except tube steak), no movies, no new cars. Sure, it's painful for awhile, but no pain, no gain.

carnot| 7.31.10 @ 9:33AM

you mean when taxes go down.

and to answer Mr CantGetRight. It's a matter of principle. The Dems are playing a hugely cynical game: their payoffs in the form of stimulus, Obamacare, etc, have rocketed the deficit into light speed. Now they play the "we must fix the deficit" legerdemains to solidify their budgetary perfidy. well.....let the colossus collapse and hunt down the folks who created the catastrophe.

R Martin| 7.30.10 @ 10:10AM

Only Jim Geraghty touched on a major problem which needs to be addressed--firing government workers. There certainly are lots of candidates, but I'd start with congressional staff. Not only do these people, using taxpayer funds, give their incumbents a huge re-election benefit, they write the 4000 page bills which no one voting on them could ever possibly read. And they are able to slip into such bills odious provisions such as the quotas referred to above which become surprise revelations after passage. To avoid such beastly legislation, the beast must be starved.

Tom| 7.30.10 @ 10:13AM

The best we can hope for is a 218-217 house and a 50-50 Senate.
both sides wont be able to do anything and America wins.

Martin j smith| 7.30.10 @ 10:26AM

A question: In whose interest is it to have doubt and
dissention as well as demoralization for this election.? In whose interest is it to have voters doubt what they see and question if voting matters ?
To be sure in my view the " Republican Party" is what it is. But, as I have said already in this election and 2012 its different from an ordinary run of the mill election. This election is in view monumental.

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 10:34AM

The Democrat debate each other all the time, and still win elections.

Every time in the past that conservatives have censored themselves, they got burned. Like during the Bush administration we mostly kept quiet, which allowed him to move further towards the Democrats and make mistakes.

Dave| 7.30.10 @ 10:42AM

Dick Armey talking about whether Republicans can be trusted?

What a joke!

Smirking Weasel| 7.30.10 @ 1:47PM

Armey should get a real job for once before he dies. As should Phil 'only a mental recession' Gramm, Gingrich and '5 deferrments' Cheney.
No, Cheney should finally have a heart attack that counts and get off the government pension rolls. And take the shrew wife, both 'daughters' and the turkey-baster grandkid with him.

John G| 7.30.10 @ 4:50PM

I agree 100% with Smoking Weasel. Armey is a RINO and Cheney/GWBush were a freaking disaster for this country. Move on Armey, call McCain and call it day. The laugh of the day "Gingrich for Prez" Only a true CFR traitor would think they have a shot, like Gingrich.

Warrior | 7.30.10 @ 5:29PM

Weasel you hypocrite. What about Biden's 5 deferrements??? Where's your critique of Rangel, Waters and Cold Cash Jefferson? Let's tell lesbian jokes about Amy Carter. Moron.

carnot| 7.31.10 @ 9:37AM

exactly. their hypocrisy is so telling.

unfortunately...their altruistic wishes for Cheney et al are highly likely to come to fruition if these people are forced into the ObamaCare system!

Steve B | 7.30.10 @ 10:50AM

I fear for the future of our country, and not just from politicians, from We the People.

There is huge popular support for the IDEA of cutting government size and spending - but when it comes down to specifics, everybody (and I don't mean just politicians) has their own pet project which they think should be untouchable.

Can Republicans be trusted?

I frankly don't know. Democrats are merely wrong - Republicans have been traitors to the principles they espouse.

Nancy in NC| 7.30.10 @ 2:57PM

Spot on, Steve.

Cut the size of government, but not my part. That's why we need to seriously revisit the Constitution, particularly Article I, Section 8. If it's not there, it's not the responsibility of federal government.

The Federal government is so bloated and about 90% of what they do is not the responsibility of the feds, but the States.

If more of this responsibility were in the hands of the states, we, the citizens could vote with our feet. Now we're just screwed unless we're like Rush and can afford to more to Costa Rica.

davelnaf| 7.30.10 @ 10:53AM

All Republicans should be aware, by now, that they will have only a short time to correct what Obama and the Democrats have done and what they have done wrong as well. If they fail to recognize their errors of the past they will go the same way the Democrats are headed.

If worse comes to worse the political parties that will rise out of the ashes of the two main parties’ demise will make Washington a very different place. It is unlikely that liberalism as we have known it will survive except as a small, mostly ignored group shouting in the wilderness of the by then nearly vanished MSM.

But if the new parties fail to fix the damage already done or perpetrate more of the same we could, at some point, see the end of democracy in this country. This is how big the stakes are this November and the two election cycles after that.

This November we will see a lot of people going to the polls that rarely get out and vote. These people constitute a far larger group than the one that voted for Obama.

Republicans should also be well aware that a VAT would not fix Washington’s or the country’s problems. The money would not be used to pay down the deficit or any sensible thing like that. Washington’s politicians would abuse it, just as they have done everything else. They must fix Washington the hard way. Taking any more money out of the private sector and giving it to politicians to use will be seen as unhinged.

To show voters the seriousness of their commitment to reform Washington Republicans should immediately undo any and all damage that Obama has done. And once back in power the safe thing for them to do is assume that their backs are against the wall from that moment on until We The People believe that Washington is fixed.

Melvin| 7.30.10 @ 11:29AM

"I am William Wallace. And I see a whole army of my countrymen, here in defiance of tyranny! You have come to fight as free men. And free man you are! What will you do without freedom? Will you fight?"
"Two thousand against ten?" - the veteran shouted. "No! We will run - and live!"
"Yes!" Wallace shouted back. "Fight and you may die. Run and you will live at least awhile. And dying in your bed many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one cahnce, to come back here as young men and tell our enemies that they may take our lives but they will never take
our freedom!"

Expect no quarter or redress from either party. Our first battle will be this years mid term elections. If that should fail regardless of whom takes the majority or becomes the minority, Americans will have to decide run or fight.
We must always remember that we are in a fight, and just because it is an election doesn't lessen the fact that we are in a broader war and we need to put 110% effort in our Conservative Cause and the Candidates.

Melvin| 7.30.10 @ 11:31AM

My apologies to note the William Wallace Freedom Speech was taken from the film BraveHeart.

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 7:10PM

A movie, idiot. Words written for dramatic effect, sure - but you don't live under tyranny - you have a duly elected government. You may not like it, but them's the breaks. I sure didn't like Bush's 8 years, so you can stand it. Swallow hard and say "this too shall pass" and get off the revolutionary spin.
As if you could prove the courage of one little finger of William Wallace - please. Stop the hyperbole and be realistic. You lost in 2006 and 2008 and you might still lose in 2010 - get over it, and plan for the future - legally. Wallace and Washington fought against absolutism of the King - that's not the same as your petty squabbles with Obama.

carnot| 7.31.10 @ 9:42AM

yes...we'll remember this next time some left wing ideologue bombs a campus physics bldg, tosses sewer caps off overpasses, etc., or their elected representatives traitorously undercut service people in the field as happened 2006-2008 (and magically disappeared post-ascendancy).

yup. you're just so gee whizz noble!

9.5% and holding

dw| 7.30.10 @ 11:51AM

This is not a choice of absolutes. They are all politicians, many of whom seem to succumb to some sort of elitist spell upon gaining their power and entering the city limits of Washington D.C.
The 2010 elections have to be understood
as an evolutionary process towards the ultimate goal of returning our country from its present socialist slide to the orignal intent of our forefathers. By their design that means a smaller, targeted government responsible to the people. Presently there seems to be no limits as to what this government can steal from its people and as such no limits to its arrogance in stealing it.
We will not achieve that goal in the short run but if we, the voting citizens do not lose focus and do not dilute our forces by infighting and nuancing our unity we may be able to take back our country.
Libertarians, Tea Party, and real Republican Conservatives (RINOS NOT WELCOMED) have no choice but to stick together and defeat the Obaminators in the present and then, election by election continue a process that hopefully installs a much more "conservative" politician, who does not lose site of who they actually work for and whos money they are actually spending.
The democrats must be defeated first and foremost and that is what must unite us all. Do not fight over the ball only to fumble it back into the hands of the opposition.

DonDuke | 7.30.10 @ 12:14PM

I agree DW when you state "....but if we, the voting citizens do not lose focus and do not dilute our forces by infighting and nuancing our unity we may be able to take back our country." Of course your point is logically unassailable. But IMHO, it is not realistic and it will not happen. In fact, I am terrified of the Tea Party for this reason. I believe that it will do nothing but dilute the conservative vote and hand the libs a victory in 2012. Fact is, the republicans I see have no more honorable intentions than the dems do. They are out for their own personal agendas, period. Frankly, I'm not voting for anyone that doesn't vow to turn over the Obamacare debacle. And I haven't heard one politician aver to that ideal. No, I am very despondent when I think of our country's future. For, in reality, the people get the government that they want. And look at what they have voted for...... sad, very sad.

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 4:28PM

A discharge petition is being circulated in Congress, the work of Rep. Steve King of Iowa, to gather enough signatures to require an up or down vote on Obamacare. Find out if your representative has signed it, and if not, let him know you want him to.

canuckistani| 7.30.10 @ 1:21PM

Ken,
You're going to "bleed for Sarah Palin to run for President"???
A QUITTER from a nothing state whose own conservative policies failed in her own home? Whose husband is an avout separatist?

She'll be destroyed in the primaries. Her endorsements are becoming a joke.

What does that say about your judgment?

Margie| 7.30.10 @ 2:03PM

Derrrrrrrrrrrr.

Margie| 7.30.10 @ 2:08PM

That was Dittos to Ken, of course!
~The Liberal-Terriers (Libertarians) will sit home or write their righteous bro-in-law's name on the ballot. Hey Liberal-Terriors~ we don't WANT the government YOU deserve~ GET REAL!

C Bowen| 7.30.10 @ 6:50PM

Surrender monkey.

Ken (old Texan) thinks a Texas Governor who wants to force 11 year old girls to take venereal disease drugs is a conservative.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 10:40AM

What's that you say, Lefty Libertarian? Surrender you say? Those who surrender like cowards to the Left~ and in fact share many traits with them~ are the Leftist non-interventionist anti-war slime who's hatred for Republicans actually outweigh their hatred for the Democrats and would rather see the Republicans lose rather than them.

Surrender? The Leftist non-interventionist Libertarians are the biggest, most self-righteous, nastiest, most cowardice human beings I have ever "met."

Put that in your stupid crack pipe and smoke it, loser.

C Bowen| 7.31.10 @ 5:54PM

Left-libertarian? If it was up to me, as a conservative, only propertied men would be allowed the franchise.

Are you to my left or right on the subject of women's suffrage?

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 10:09PM

You're a conservative? Could've fooled me, lowlife. What's your problem then with other conservatives? Or don't we meet up with your standards? Oh, the sheer pity!
Are you a "propertied" man? Oh my, shall I bow now or later? You sound like you already would rather bow to Obama and bash your fellow conservatives to me. Must've missed the 'conservative' side somehow.

C Bowen| 8.1.10 @ 6:05AM

Posting on AmSpec rah-rah tomes for the Republican Party doth not make you a 'fellow' conservative.

I think you favored the Global Democratic Revolution policy of the previous administration, paid for on the national credit card, so while you might be a conservative Trotskyite, you'll have to demonstrate a few examples of conservative, traditional thought process.

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 9:54AM

Well you're a lying man. God is my witness as to who and what I am.

It matters not what you think.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 1:26PM

Ya never know when to shut your Big Yap , Acocalyptic Nasty Margie .

At least our brothers-in-law weren't The Neo-Colonial African Socialist Obama nor The Serial Traitor To Conservatism McCain.

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .

We Can See November From Our Houses .

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:04PM

Timmy* holds the gold medal for nasty, you scumbag lying hypocrite.

Still glad that my "Neo-Con Israel-Firster" vote will be cancelled out by the increase in the Arab vote, you filthy piece of trash?

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 2:19PM

Gee sweet & holy Apocalyptic Nutbag Lady , now tell all the AS Readers where you say all practicing Jews & Muslims go when they die.

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates Without Zany Margie .

Time For Real Tea Party Change .

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 5:11PM

What kind of cesspool did you come from Timmy*?

Was your father a psychopath? Your Mother? Did you inherit the gene or do you actually CHOOSE to be a despicable lying lowlife coward?

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 11:48AM

Gee , Apocalyptic Crank Lady !

My father led Combat Recon & Ranger Troopers and holds The Presidential Unit Citation ,The Croix de Guerre from France , The Silver Star , The Bronze Star .
My mother was sophisticated , highly educated , accomplished and a beautiful women .

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 1:47PM

Well then that just proves that you choose to be a lying piece of filthy trash.

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 2:34PM

No Chubby Cheeks , that proves I responded to t A Trash Talkin' Head Case From Joisey .

RCV| 8.2.10 @ 12:06AM

Well, Timmie, then your parents must have been very disappointed.

Margie| 7.30.10 @ 2:05PM

Dittos baby~ DITTOS!

Louis Jenkins| 7.30.10 @ 2:30PM

I'll defend Ken (Old Texan's) right to contribute to Sarrah Palin. Just as anyone else will contribute to any name. Do not expect his choice to agree with yours, but he has decided. A bit early for me to decide two years down the road, but I'll be making one soon enough. The important part is that I will decide, and it will not be a third party candidate. I played that card with Ross and allowed the Slick Mister to get elected.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 7:11PM

DONDUKE
When you learn the English language, I might take note of what you say.

...my impotent what?
Oh...I get it...you were trying to write a contraction of the words "you are". That is spelled you're.

I was simply trying to draw a stark distinction, stupid. See, we can do this turnaround in a civilized fashion at the voting booth, or it will be done in a most uncivilized fashion by men who have lost everything to these communist, (pardon the shorthand), scum.

It won't be much fun to be a congress critter "ruling class" member when a cocktail party invitation requires a Secret Service escort, and a dinner out...requires a bullet proof helmet.

We will most certainly start getting a whole different "applicant pool" for congress critter and/or bureaucrat if those happenings begin, don't ya' think?

Yeah, we Texans do take care of "bidness". Even the Russian mafia hasn't been able to get a toe-hold here, and they are bad bad boys.

Thank God for the Texas Rangers!

If ole' Hassan had started shooting up a Ranger station, instead of a US Army base...he might have gotten off three shots before being "bidnessed".

That little Texan lady stopped him as quickly as she could get there.
Bottom line, our WOMEN are better at taking care of "bidness" than you will ever achieve.

GeorgePQ| 7.30.10 @ 11:51AM

Until the people of the United States abolishes the central bank and kicks out all criminal non-citizens it won't matter which political party is in power. They're both destructive and nefariously led.

Brian B| 7.30.10 @ 12:00PM

I'm all for bashing the Republicans, especially the 2001-2006 class.
But the electorate isn't blameless. I still get plenty of grief from many erstwhile conservatives if I even mention that the Repub's profligate and "compassionate" ways were at the root of the 2006 and 2008 debacles.
The large majority of Republicans will do what the group applying the most heat to their feet wants. Conservatives and right leaning libertarians too often vote somebody in then sit back and quietly hope he does the right thing while every rent seeker and whiner in DC is pounding on his door.
If we can't make more noise to keep what remains of our constitution intact and other people's hands out of our pockets as those seeking to take our wealth and country then who is more to blame; the dope just trying to get reelected or us?

John II| 7.30.10 @ 12:46PM

Yes, that's the main thing, Brian. Conservatives tend to be, well, conservative. They get fired up for a kind of rescue mission after the Left creates havoc, and then after the rescue, they go home Cincinnatus-like and tend to their own lives.

The term RINO basically means unprincipled, so the answer seems to be for conservatives not to go home but to stick around for some permanent door-pounding after the Left has been subdued. In other words, the conservatives have to take advantage of the RINO's lack of principle by pushing them into the habit of taking the right path (pun intended) as the path of least resistance.

But the trouble remains that conservatives are conservative. By and large, their politics are in service to their lives rather than the other way around. The Left is intermittently effective because politics is ALL they do; the Right is frequently feeble politically because they've got real lives to live. I keep recalling the Reagan years, when the Right was relatively quiescent in the public forum. In journalism at least, the Right really caught fire during the Clinton years. And is doing so again amid the Obamanation.

I reckon.

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 1:10PM

"the Right really caught fire during the Clinton years."

It happens to whichever party is out of party. The out-of-power party leadership makes money by scaring their members with horror stories about the other party.

Like in 2004, some left-wingers said that revolution might be necessary because President George Bush was destroying the constitution (with the Patriot Act & wars), and that Bush was liable to declare martial law to prevent the election. They said that 2004 was the most important election in American history and we were liable to lose the republic if Bush wasn't defeated. Some of them devoted years of their lives, every waking moment to defeating President Bush.

Which a few years before was the same way that some on the right felt about Bill Clinton, as some on the left had felt about the first President Bush years before that, and they also felt about Ronald Reagan when he was president ....

John II| 7.30.10 @ 1:52PM

Well Sieggy, whatever either side is alleged to have "felt," there remain the matters of specific policy issues and the relative plausibility of the projected "feelings." The observation, for example, that the American economy is being pushed into a chic Euro-style socialism doesn't quite measure up to the vicious and baseless contumely heaped on the rhetorically incompetent Bush year after year after year.

Perhaps another way to express the point of my response is that only "some on the right" behave the way ALL on the left behave--because, to repeat, most on the Right have productive lives to live and are thus not consumed by politics to the very core of their being.

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 2:25PM

Ah, specific issues. Well, I did mention some of them like the Patriot Act and the Iraq & Afghan Wars. To the Democrats those WERE real issues. In fact a lot of Republicans, including the Neo-Cons, seem to that wars and the safety of our soldiers are important issues too.

And I absolutely DO believe in voting based on "specific policy issues" rather than party labels. That's why I vote against all liberal Republicans, voting third party conservative instead.

That's why I'm voting against the liberal Republican running for senator in my state, because he voted for cap & trade and said he would vote for Kagan. He's an Obama Republican because of those specific issues, and I don't vote for left-wingers.

That's why I voted against John McCain for president, even though he was a Republican, because he agreed with Obama on many "specific policy issues": amnesty, cap & trade, shutting Guantánamo Bay down, eliminating enhanced interrogation ("torture"), opposing tax cuts...

Siegfried X| 7.30.10 @ 2:35PM

And speaking of socialism, I should have mentioned all the Ted Kennedy-sponsored socialist programs which McCain voted for, including the ones in President Bush's administration.

John II| 7.30.10 @ 4:16PM

No disagreement from this quarter, Sieggy. I'd be happier if the creep-lefty Demos (now the majority in that party) would move to Sweden or Greece and the Republicans would split up into a better-defined two-party system: idiot soft-liberals in one party and principled conservatives in the other--but all of them at least patriots. The lefty Demos I'm personally acquainted with really do hate America.

martin j smith| 7.30.10 @ 12:04PM

One thing some of you have missed. In November the issue will be YOU--not the Republicans not the Socialists but you and what you do.
I frankly am ambivalent as to how to interpret some of the posts. Ken ( old texan ) is positive and realistic. Others, I am not so sure about
When I start trying to talk sense to posters who appear descpouraged or negative I begin wonder if they are what they are or, could they be troll ?>
As I said in my previous post, In whose interest isit to create dissention and despair ? Not mine, but let me be blunt they help the Socialists period.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 12:50PM

Martin,
thank you for the shout-out. Please see my follow-up post above.
(aw to hell with it. I will copy it here.)

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 12:31PM
OK folks, venting done?

The only alternative to "politics".......is rolling CIVIL WAR!

So sit at home...or throw your vote away.

Then, as I put on my back brace and my leg brace, and go to my sniper hide...what will you whiners be doing?
Yep.....whining!

How many of you have gone and sat in your congress critter's office until you were heard?

If so, did you go there with a Mary Poppins agenda?

Please, grow up and quit having an infantile fit.

THERE AIN'T NO PERFECT.....STUPIDS!

Now, as for me, I am contributing to "conservative" candidates all across the country.

I am contributing until I bleed for Sarah Palin to run for President. I am rooting for the tea-party caucus with Rep Bachman.

OK, stupids. Pick up your responsibilities, put them on your own backs, and go to DC. and raise hell...with Republicans.......

Or,

Start figuring out which bars your lying congress critter frequents...and shoot him/her until their lying buddies get the message .

You lay down your life in that extremity.

So sit at home in November or throw away your vote.
Sit self-righteously in your easy chair and watch the "shining city on the hill" become Kosovo.

Dumbshits!

(Martin, some very bright folks here simply have never found themselves in the midst of a rolling civil war. I have. Oh, nasty......heart-breaking.
I read them saying "no voting for lesser evils", and I cringe.....then sigh...and realize they are worthless in a civil war.)

Folks we got one last chance to avoid rolling civil war...right the hell now. Vote R and vote often.

The democrats/communists have declared war on us. GET REAL OR GET DEAD!

canuckistani| 7.30.10 @ 1:25PM

Does rolling civil war = never-ending revolution?

How very Mao of you. Better Red than dead, Ken?

You're closer to Mao than a conservative, amigo. Think about that before you take your government-paid valium at nap time.

SPO101 | 7.30.10 @ 1:28PM

All this talk about racism is complete bulls***. I can’t believe in THIS SHAKY TIME in US history that ANY of this nation’s so-called LEADERS would be wasting the Public’s time with this pitiful madness. F*** YOU @$$****’s. Is there just ONE of you pathetic sworn oath mofo’s that KNOWS what the f*** your doing? PLEASE tell me your plan… y’know, what you’re going to do about the SAD state of this nation?

I’ve come to the conclusion that Republicans are f***’n INSANE! The American PEOPLE are suffering through the results of 8 miserable years of Bush/Cheney and the Republican controlled congress (1994-2006)

Waste, fraud, abuse, scandal, sexual deviancy, corruption, lies, incompetence, job outsourcing, off-shore tax evasion, reckless economics, welfare for the rich, deregulation, war profiteering, Constitutional violations AND a Corporate Crime Wave of epic proportions…. The WORST looting of a nation’s wealth and resources in the history of MANKIND!

NOTE: (Where was the Tea Party anger THEN? Ya #*~/ ignorant hypocrites)

AND THESE crazy mofo’s are making a big deal about TWO Black Panthers? I wouldn’t be the least surprised this whole voter intimidation thing was paid for/set up by some racist fanatic GOP operative. (like the whole Alvin Greene fiasco in SC and 2000 Presidential election) Republicans love their “DIRTY TRICKS”, don’t they?
consciousmc.blogspot.com

canuckistani| 7.30.10 @ 5:13PM

I'm with you, but the country has to move on....
My hunch the American people fall into two camps: those who conjure a country that never existed, and may have mistaken it for a Billy Wilder movie, and those who believe humanity needs work and actually can be goaded into advancing.
I won't even use labels.
Fear is the tried and true staple of power elites in the history of the world. Your witnessing it in its perfection. It's perfect, because noone realizes the barbarians at the gates are us.

Tim*| 7.30.10 @ 8:29PM

Talk to your girlfriend Bawney Fwank and Chrissy Dodd.

You seem so very upset & all atwitter .

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:07PM

Your pal Ron Paul is as we speak "working with" Barney Frank, his Leftist pal, to decrease funding to our Military. But that's OK isn't it, Timmy* boy? When the Lefty Libertarians unite in their perverted purposes, it OK to scum like you.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 2:25PM

I never voted for Ron Paul or gave a penny to his campaigns . But you already knew that Apocalyptic Head Case Margie

Having Said That Ron Paul makes some valid points and Defense Spending should be reviewed and discussed .

" We spend more on defense than the rest of the world combined, and far more than we spent during the Cold War. These expenditures in many cases foment resentment that does not make us safer, but instead makes us a target. We referee and arm conflicts the world over, and have troops in some 140 countries with over 700 military bases.

With this enormous amount of money and energy spent on efforts that have nothing to do with the security of the United States, when the time comes to defend American soil, we will be too involved in other adventures to do so.

There is nothing conservative about spending money we don’t have simply because that spending is for defense. No enemy can harm us in the way we are harming ourselves, namely bankrupting the nation and destroying our own currency. The former Soviet Union did not implode because it was attacked; it imploded because it was broke. We cannot improve our economy if we refuse to examine all major outlays, including so-called defense spending."

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates Without Margie ,The Whack Job .

Time For Real Change In November , Not Democrat Light .

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 3:06PM

Keep on with the deceit you filthy lying scumbag. What a despicable trickster you are!

Ron Paul is working with Barney Frank to defund our Military and YOU defend him. You are a snake just like he is. Your agenda has nothing to do with what's right for America~ you defend the anti-war and anti-Israel conservatives and try and shut up my voice by your lies and false accusations.

Real Change, huh? No you don't want REAL change. That would take backing and voting for the Republican candidate, something you are too good to do.

Hilarious~ so now you are what, the leader of the TEA parties?

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 4:30PM

Apparently , Margie The Apocalyptic Crank doesn't know what We Tea Party Rebels stand for .

Tea Party Patriots Mission Statement and Core Values

Mission Statement
The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets.

Core Values

* Fiscal Responsibility
* Constitutionally Limited Government
* Free Markets

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 4:46PM

Well golly gee, really?
Got news for you, dirtbag~ conservatives will also choose candidates that stand for a strong Military Defense and not just fiscal responsibility.

You and your anti-war Lefty Libertarian pals make up a very tiny portion of imbecilic "rebels"~ in the TEA parties.

You lying scumbags will never see the Presidency.

John Navratil| 7.30.10 @ 5:18PM

Ken,

I have to agree with you (easy to do, I might add) that the choice this year can only be vote 'R'. Vote 'I' and we die under two more years of this.

Can the Republicans be trusted? NO!!! They say, give 'em another chance. What choice do we have? I had to put a clothes pin on my nose to vote for McCain.

As for canuckistani's grand historical reference to Mao with the "better Red than dead": he doesn't appear to remember that was an American leftist aphorism meaning to prefer to live under Soviet domination than dead. It is a delicious alliteration that it translates into "better R than D". So right! We have no choice.

One of the contributors wrote: ''As one strategist put it to me, "Whoever the Republicans nominate in 2012, he or she had better be good at firing government workers, because that's what the job is going to require starting in 2013." A lot of Republicans -- not all, but a lot -- get this.''

Our problem is to ensure that they all get it. Bachmann has done a good thing by starting the "Tea Party" caucus. The Tea Party cannot form a viable party in decades, the best hope is to reform the Republican party. The Tea Party can say they aren't bound to Republicans and likewise, the caucus isn't either. This is a way for the Congress to begin to reflect (not express, not shape) the will of the Tea Party. Like the "Club For Growth", the party can influence who runs for the seats. When the "wobbly" Republicans begin to see the way the wind blows they will wobble that way.

The only way this can happen is with a Republican MAJORITY in 2010.

Cris Worth| 7.30.10 @ 12:08PM

The Obamacare blueprint provider Mitt Romney is the frontrunner for the 2012 GOP nomination. Does that answer your question? Also in the wake of the 1994 elections the Republicans nominated Bob Dole for President. Do I need to go any further?

George S| 7.30.10 @ 12:13PM

The lessons learned is that we, the registered Republicans, will stop voting in leftist Democrats and Blue Dogs just to teach Republicans a lesson. Who really was schooled here?

rdman| 7.30.10 @ 12:14PM

Can’t see the forest (strategic) for all the trees (reactionary). What we are witnessing, whether we realize or not, is 90% completion of the Marxist 100-year Manifesto.

And all we’ve been getting for years from the GOP and the career-republicans are one-line “cutesy” reactionary sound-byte comments as the Progressives/Socialists, and Obami and his crew systematically and incrementally destroy our Constitution, our magnificent Country and We the People.

We are hanging by a thin, fraying string… if that fragile string is broken, We the People are done!!!!

Come November 2010 and all election cycles thereafter, reject all career-RINOs incumbents and GOP sponsored RINOs. VOTE for Christie/Demint/Bachmann type republicans. Form watch-dog organizations led by Palin types who inspire the voters and hold the GOP and elected republicans feet to the fire.

That is, if we still have the right to vote or ensure a “fair” election…

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 4:34PM

Ditto that, rdman.

Andrew Vander Dussen| 7.30.10 @ 12:45PM

all this talk about the parties being the same and how it makes no difference who you vote for - you didn't hear that in 2006! Or in 2000 when libs cried that Bush stole the election. So now you know that "both parties are the same" is a liberal talking point.

Citizen Jerry| 7.30.10 @ 12:47PM

Nope, Republicans haven't learned a damn thing if they keep trying to foist on us the likes of Mitt and Newt.
We already have too many whiter shade of pale Democrats in the Republican Party, like that vulgar opportunist Charlie Crist.
We need to get back to true Reagan conservatism, or continue to have our collective backside handed to us in every election.

Lord Karth| 7.30.10 @ 12:58PM

"Have the Republicans Learned Their Lesson ?"

"Is the GOP Ready to Govern ?"

You're KIDDING me, right ? After promising to sustain Medicare in its present form ?

Is this some kind of a joke ?

Your servant,

Lord Karth

SPO101 | 7.30.10 @ 1:19PM

QUOTE OF THE DAY:
“I’m wondering if those who support that so-called Tea Party Movement really know where Republicans are leading them? It seems like the Tea Party rank and file are being used by a bunch of vain, self-serving, evil, power mad, greed stricken, K-Street Con Artists. The scum of the earth who hide their hideous faces by using Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin as spokespersons.

Just look at their agenda items. It‘s like Ken Lay’s or Jack Abramoff’s wet dream:
1) Repeal Health Insurance Reform
2) Privatize Social Security or abolish it.
3) End Medicare
4) Extend Bush Tax Cuts for wealthy and Big Oil
5) Repeal Wall Street reform
6) Protect those responsible for Gulf oil disaster and future environmental catastrophes
7) Abolish or cut funding to Department of Education
8) Abolish Dept. of Energy
9) Abolish Environmental Protection Agency
10) Repeal 17th Amendment
11) Rewrite Bible and school textbooks,
12) Replace JESUS with Glenn Beck, Frank Church with Joe McCarthy…
13) After USA is destroyed by Republican Party low grade thought processes, BLAME Democrats/Liberals…”

2010 by SPO101

Melvin| 7.30.10 @ 3:26PM

Your list seems like a good start.

Lord Karth| 7.30.10 @ 5:01PM

I'd rather have that than what we currently have. Shoot, I'll take it, at a black-market price, right now.

But can we add "repealing the income-tax, youth-voting and anti-poll-tax amendments" to the mix ? I'd pay premium rates for that.

Your servant,

Lord Karth

John Navratil| 7.30.10 @ 5:23PM

I'd change 4 to simply extend Bush tax cuts.
You can scratch 6, 11 and 12.
13 is obviously impossible.

A good effort overall. B- is my grade, but you could try for extra credit.

martin j smith| 7.30.10 @ 1:25PM

this comin gelection as well the 2008 was about kicking out the incombents. Since the Repubs had little to nothing to do with the actions and legislation of the governing the shift is against the Socialists this time. That is the difference . Yes, the Repubs leaned something ( with the exception of a few useful idiots ). They let the voters see and decide for themselves how bad Socialist policies are and will be.
\And, I a dear say , that the shift is against the Socialists. , What the people want I am not sure, but they do not want THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So are you fools or trolls or does it matter ?
I think I have had may say and will ignore the foolish or trollish converations and only relate to those who make sense and those people are those who while they understand the problems with the Repus, are more concerned first to put a check on the Socialist regime.

canuckistani| 7.30.10 @ 1:31PM

The last two elections were about Junior and his cabal of bandits decimating what little respect people had for government after slick Willie's BJ episode.
The whole party campaigned on "compassionate conservatism"....including Armey, Lott...and I'm pretty sure Barone, Barnes and other GOP toadies did the same.
The GOP lied, actually did create the biggest government in history and abandoned every conservative principle in a chaotic rampage for the exits. It was they who showed us for what we are, not what we aspire to be. Shame.
I will vote GOP when we stop using words like apocalypse and end-of-days chatter. It's an election, dammit. Everyone has a shelf life.

dw| 7.30.10 @ 1:39PM

"DO NOT FIGHT OVER THE BALL ONLY TO FUMBLE IT BACK INTO THE HANDS OF THE OPPOSITION" Vote against democrats, where ever they may be.

canuckistani| 7.30.10 @ 5:18PM

I agree, but why? because they're evil or something?
Remember who actually did throw out the constitution in the last eight years. It was the GOP. The dems actually have not enacted anything that comes close to the erosion the GOP did to our real freedoms.
I want them back, and I suspect the current gang of prospects don't even realize it.

martin j smith| 7.30.10 @ 1:58PM

Here is how I will find a troll. This is the senario:
Amemo has very recently been discovered to the effect that the BHO regime is looking into a non-legislative method of passing some form of "immigration reform"--that means thru the bureaucracy not thru congress. This is non -Constitutional and anti-American Democracy. It is Hugo Chavez in nature.
A sincere person would concerned about this and at least get the idea that while Repubs are far from perfect,kicking out the Hugo Chavez wanna be is a valid reason in November to vote Republican. Those who are trolls do not care and continue to go on their anti Republican rants.

Margie| 7.30.10 @ 2:14PM

AMEN and AMEN!

Bob| 7.30.10 @ 5:31PM

Unfortunately many GOP types in high places want similar "immigration reform" be it legislative or not. Lindsey Graham comes to mind and the 43rd President with middle initial "W" tried to foist a similar measure upon us...remember? If Republicans showed the courage of Jan Brewer things would be different. But I don't see that at the federal level. Besides guess who becomes senate majority leader....Mitch McConnell following in the footsteps of Baker-Dole-Dole again-Lott-Frist all non-conservative wrecking balls.

Anthony| 7.30.10 @ 2:19PM

I believe the man in the photo that accompanies this article was the former R Speaker of the House, Denny Hassett.
We remember this fool, as the R who forbade the FBI from searching the office of a D member of Congress, for his criminal activities. I believe the crook was the famous former Louisiana Congressman, William (cold cash) Jefferson.
Hassett took offense, that no congressional offices were subject to searches, due to the Seperation of Powers clause in the Constitution.
Only an arrogant, career political D.C. hack, could come up with this interpretation.
I mention this only because if the Rs do take over Congress, they damn well better rid themselves of their own hubris and sense of entitlement, as well as their desire to dabble at the edges of Obama-Marxism.
They better start doing the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, or they to will looking for work in Obamaville.

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 4:38PM

*Hastert* ~ not Hassett

Otherwise, good post.

J.J. Sefton| 7.30.10 @ 2:29PM

No, they haven't "learned" anything. They are in favor of big government just like the Dems, only they prefer to use slow poison on us rather than chuck us all at once into the proverbial pot of boiling water as the current regime is doing.

Look at how the leadership of the Republican party rushes to vilify Reaganite/Goldwater conservatives even more viciously than the Dems.

If they embraced conservative principles of limited government, they would defeat the Dems for generations to come (barring amnesty, ACORN and the deceased vote).

mike AMES| 7.30.10 @ 2:44PM

Was there a "political" solution at the time of our founding when attempt after attempt was made to follow the then accepted process? Now that we have been occupied by true Marixist and our constitution has been trampled on with impunity it is in fact time to exercise the solution Jefferson understood would have be be used. There is no peaceful solution and the sooner we learn this the better. We must TAKE our Constitutionally Limited Republic back.

Nancy in NC| 7.30.10 @ 3:13PM

We must TAKE back ourRepublic, but it's going to take some time. The more I learn, the more I discover what a real mess we are in. Not only do we have to deal with the scum in Washington, but a bunch of nameless scum from all over the world that are pulling the strings. Obama is only,IMHO, the puppet.

When one reads about the Bilderbergs, the Bohemiam Group, the CFR, and other such groups, one realizes how deep the crevasse of evil is that has consumed our country. I fear for my grandchildren.

Unfortunately, I doubt there is a peaceful solution, but we must do something or this will certainly be irreversible.

martin j smith| 7.30.10 @ 3:09PM

OK i got my results. the above three ( Not Margie )
are very suspicious to me.

canuckistani| 7.30.10 @ 5:20PM

Make that 1....you. You're the mole, like a closeted gay evangelical.
Looking for love in all the wrong places.

Peter Verkooijen| 7.30.10 @ 3:15PM

Here's the problem for Republicans; socialists have hijacked/coopted liberalism, which everywhere in the world means capitalism and individual liberty. The Founding Fathers were classic liberals. So as long as Republicans run on conservatism versus liberalism, they have a huge disadvantage. If Republicans ran on Liberty versus socialism, they would win in landslides. The clueless "conservative base" won't let it happen, so Obama will be reelected in 2012.

canuckistani| 7.30.10 @ 5:25PM

Finally, it takes a skandy to clear it up.

Thank you. Let's pray the social pariahs on here go back into their momma's basements to sulk.

David| 7.30.10 @ 3:22PM

Hey SPO101, why don't you tell the readers where you really got those so-called "agenda" items.

The first 10 are from a negative political ad put out by the Democratic National Committee, and I assume you made up the last 3 yourself.

Like I've said before, it is impossible to have an honest debate with leftists. They will flat out lie as SPO 101 just did.

DRed| 7.30.10 @ 3:29PM

If you're voting against providing health care to 9/11 victims and tax breaks for small business, then no, you don't deserve to regain power.

dw| 7.30.10 @ 4:01PM

I can't let your idiocy slide.
#1) The democrats in the house pulled a procedural side step that requires a 2/3 majority to pass that bill. The reason they did this is to once again push through another bill without allowing the republicans to comment on it and get rid of certain odorous provisions the dems were trying to slide through. Under normal procedures after proper, honest debate it could have passed with a simple majority.
#2) If the dumocrats allow the Bush tax cuts to fade out, that will represent the biggest tax increase in history and will negatively and directly effect small busuness and its ability to hire. Rather than spend more worthless,borrowed money they could do more by maintaining the tax cuts.
And yes, I miss spelled democrat. Troll somewhere else.

DRed| 7.30.10 @ 4:14PM

Which smelly provisions were the dems trying to slide through?

And I wasn't talking about the Bush tax cuts.

dw| 7.30.10 @ 4:59PM

We don't know because they won't let it be debated on the floor, but they are the ones who changed procedures. They have enough votes by themselves to pass it but they required a 2/3s vote instead of a simple majority. So ask your dems why? You don't get an answer from Wiener. He will not answer that direct question. Why?

DRed| 7.30.10 @ 5:12PM

You don't know? It's a bill up for vote. Everyone has the text. It's even on the internet.

http://www.gop.gov/bill/111/2/hr847

Why did they change the procedure? Because they didn't want any amendments to be added to the bill. It's a common way to get uncontroversial bils passed. But the Republicans would rather play politics.

dw| 7.30.10 @ 6:59PM

or irrelevant parts of the bill debated and removed.
The point is no public debate allowed.
And democrats never play politics......

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 8:42PM

Except that the Republicans wanted to add an Amendment about Illegal Immigrants, to embarrass the Democrats... the Repugnant ploy didn't work and they were called out for it.

carnot| 7.30.10 @ 4:12PM

9.5% and holding

Cambridge| 8.1.10 @ 3:25AM

It's actually 9.6% according to the BLS.

Syd Chaden| 7.30.10 @ 4:15PM

The net result of buying the argument that one must vote Republican or the Democrats will win, or, one must vote Democrat or the Republicans will win, is that one winds up with the same kind of governments that we had under Bush, or that we now have under Obama. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans can produce a electoral majority vote. They need the Independents to do that. If the Tea Parties can attract enough of the Independent vote to gain some seats in Congress, the Tea Parties could become the "swing votes" that influence how things are done, and eventually, the Tea Parties could become the choice of a majority of the voters. That is a goal worth pursuing.

Purpleguy| 7.30.10 @ 4:57PM

"Representative Paul Ryan has created a Roadmap to reform everything Washington runs or touches: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the tax code, health care, and more. " - Yes, please, please push this program ... please, please, please.

Lord Karth| 7.30.10 @ 5:02PM

Change "reform" to "Eradicate", and you'll have something.

Your servant,

Lord Karth

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 5:55PM

Folks,
I am going to do some research on Lobbyists. They seem to have congress critters' ears for various purposes, and they seem to have cash to work with.

A lot of them seem to be paid to say "leave my client (industry) alone."

I will keep youall posted.

aware| 7.31.10 @ 10:18AM

Who do you think is writing these 2000 plus page bills?
You fall into the category of don't know what hit you. If the scum that passes the bills admits they don't know what's in them and have not read them, then how do they appear out of the clear blue?
Once you "do your research" tell us if you think voting Republican will fix it. The plundering continues.

C Bowen| 7.30.10 @ 6:46PM

If Fred Barnes was asked to contribute, then AmSpec has not learned a lesson.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 7:15PM

C Bowen,
Whoosh...that went right over my head. Do you care to clarify, or do you just like throwing turds in the punchbowl?

C Bowen| 7.30.10 @ 8:10PM

If you don't know who former New Republic scribe, Fred Barnes is in the reality based community--a guy who, I know it's hard to believe, but can be found in the 50 cent bin at the local bookstore, wrote a book praising "Big Government Conservativism", then I cannot help you any more than I can help you stop calling Gov. Gardisil a conservative--sicko.

aware| 7.31.10 @ 10:20AM

Here, here!

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 11:22AM

To aware, the liar and one who calls himself "a reluctant anarchist"~ your state of mind, along with your pal C. Bowen reflects your idiotic posts.

And it's hear, hear not here, here, oh self-righteous idiot.

aware| 7.31.10 @ 2:07PM

I'm only a "liar" because I have demolished your stunningly shallow opinions and pretentiousness, darling. That's why you fall back on name calling.

Self-righteous?? That's a good one, cupcake!

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:10PM

I see. So to the anarchist scum, such as yourself~ an argument that it is best to vote Republican than to lose to the Leftist Communists is shallow?

Why, of course it would be!

You are scum. And that isn't name calling~ it's truth.

aware| 7.31.10 @ 2:25PM

Yeah, vote for the Republicans. Why didn't I think of that before! Problem solved! Thank you for clearing that up, sweetie!
No, wait....I did that back in 1976 and many times since, but it still got worse. Got any other suggestions?

Thanks for that example of stunningly shallow, buttercup.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:54PM

Do what you wish~ anarchist scum and liars like you are destined to Hell. Unless you repent, of course. Lotsa luck!

p.s. the anarchist party (Libertarians) are losers, just like you. You can't even contain the contempt you have for conservative Republicans~ that's why you never win! You have to register as Republicans to try and win. But when your insanity is revealed~ your anti-war, Blame America First lie~ the people run the other way.

aware| 7.31.10 @ 3:12PM

Who's being "self-righteous" now, my little chickadee?
And by the way, it's "you're" anti-war, not your.
Do I go to Hell for not voting Republican or opposing stupid wars or both? Which one do I "repent" of, my precious?

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 3:18PM

Actually, God is righteous. He says what goes, not me. Take it up with Him.

And my usage of the word 'your' was correct anyhow.

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 4:44PM

Moreover, Barnes is an openborders guy.

Hershl| 7.30.10 @ 7:26PM

Sorry to change topic but this is huge!

Just in!!

Major Jewish organization totally shakes things up.
Comes out against 911 Mosque.
Mosque supporters in shock. Panic.

http://jewishdailyreport.wordp.....11-mosque/

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 7:44PM

Hershl,
You are forgiven my son. (smile)

Pamela over at "Atlas Shrugs" has been raising billy hell on this issue.

I'm with Y'all!

A "mosque" there would be no better than spit on every American.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 7:49PM

Warning...copied from above.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.30.10 @ 7:11PM
DONDUKE
When you learn the English language, I might take note of what you say.

...my impotent what?
Oh...I get it...you were trying to write a contraction of the words "you are". That is spelled you're.

I was simply trying to draw a stark distinction, stupid. See, we can do this turnaround in a civilized fashion at the voting booth, or it will be done in a most uncivilized fashion by men who have lost everything to these communist, (pardon the shorthand), scum.

It won't be much fun to be a congress critter "ruling class" member when a cocktail party invitation requires a Secret Service escort, and a dinner out...requires a bullet proof helmet.

We will most certainly start getting a whole different "applicant pool" for congress critter and/or bureaucrat if those happenings begin, don't ya' think?

Yeah, we Texans do take care of "bidness". Even the Russian mafia hasn't been able to get a toe-hold here, and they are bad bad boys.

Thank God for the Texas Rangers!

If ole' Hassan had started shooting up a Ranger station, instead of a US Army base...he might have gotten off three shots before being "bidnessed".

That little Texan lady stopped him as quickly as she could get there.
Bottom line, our WOMEN are better at taking care of "bidness" than you will ever achieve.

John II| 7.30.10 @ 9:42PM

I reckon. . . . In fact, I PLUMB reckon. I'm not from Texas, Ken, but my mom sure was (Temple, Texas, more or less in the center). Sweet as could be--but DAMN, never took crap from ANYone, and she was a good shot. She was my old man's third wife, and that lasted forty years until he died.

As my big sister, now well into her seventies, said when Mom died after 20 more years with her second husband, another former womanizer: "You know, when they marry Mom, they STAY married!"

She didn't have any formal religion of her own, but she insisted that we all be raised Catholic. Go figure. Her mom, my grandma, was even tougher, in a disarmingly sweet way.

Texas women. Whoa.

Osamas Pajamas| 7.31.10 @ 12:24AM

SAM ADAMS IS MORE THAN JUST A GREAT YANKEE BEER! TAX HATER SAMUEL ADAMS, ON A ROLL AND ARMED TO THE TEETH, AUGUST, 1776……

"You darkeners of counsel, who would make the property, lives and religion of millions depend on the evasive interpretations of musty parchments; who would send us to antiquated charters of uncertain and contradictory meaning, to prove that the present generation are not bound to be victims to cruel and unforgiving despotism, tell us whether our pious and generous ancestors bequeathed to us the miserable privilege of having the rewards of our honesty, industry, the fruits of those fields which they purchased and bled for, wrested from us at the will of men over whom we have no check.

"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, What should be the reward of such sacrifices? Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, and supplicate the friendship, and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom – go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

“Courage, then, my countrymen, our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty. Dismissing, therefore, the justice of our cause, as incontestable, the only question is, What is best for us to pursue in our present circumstances?”

“It does not take a majority to prevail….but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”

“Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.”

“The Constitution shall never be construed… to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”

Alamitos Bay| 7.31.10 @ 12:24AM

What this country needs is a truly LIBERAL president and congress and judiciary! And I forgive the reader for suspecting that this must be some kind of bad joke!

But the Democrats believe in "statism" --- not "liberalism."

They benefit from the imprecise American political terminology ---- we say "the government" here in the USA ---- rather than "the state." And that's a dangerous problem. Famous brands of statism in recent centuries have been Nazism, socialism, fascism, communism, and welfare statism ---- this last is sort of a mix of fascism and socialism.

Liberalism, on the other hand, is a political philosophy of small, cheap government ---- it is a constabulary ---- and the job of a liberal government is to enforce human rights within its own jurisdiction. I speak of the inalienable and perfectly-natural and universally-valid human rights of life, liberty, private property, and the pursuit of personal happiness.

The first article of private property is "the self" and all other rights are derivatives of and flow from these cardinal rights. These rights ----The Rights of Man ---- are the gift of nature or of nature's god ---- and they belong to all human beings, everywhere.

Show me a Democrat who subscribes to all of the above, without qualifications or weasel words. The words "liberal" and "liberalism" were hijacked by the Democrats and socialists and fascists long ago ---- and it was the mistake of conservatives and libertarians to let them get away with it.

It is long past time that liberalism be reclaimed, defined, and explained by its rightful owners ---- by the champions of freedom, i.e.: not by Democrats.

Well, how about "progressivism?" Whuzzat?! “Cancer” is “progressive,” too. Isn't “progressivism” just another statist cancer? It chews you up, piece by piece, in the name of Da Peepul? Eat Da Rich? Moral cannibalism, anyone?

Friends of freedom! Friends of peace-through-strength! And friends of prosperity! Declare yourselves to be "liberals," then ---- and kick over the bloody coffee tables --- and overthrow and trounce the Democrats in 2010 and 2012!

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 4:47PM

Good stuff, Alamitos Bay. Thanks for the lesson.

Marblehead Light| 7.31.10 @ 12:25AM

The Democrats have this "enemies list" --- denominated in epithets aimed at the people whose wallets they wish to hijack and take up residence inside. You can be a “Racist!” and you can be a “Homophobe!” and you can be a “Teabagger!” --- a homosexual man taking his partner’s scrotum into his mouth. You can be “Selfish!” and you can be a “Hick!” and you can be a “Rube!” You can be a “Right-wing-nut!” and you can be "Unenlightened!" and you can be a “Fascist!” --- although no one more closely approaches the precise description of “Fascist!” than the usual Demo propagandist --- either official, or self-appointed.

So all you have to do to occupy multiple epithets on the Demos” enemies list is to insist that they take their hands off yourself, off your wallet, off your property, off your kids, off your diet, off your healthcare, off your household appliances, off your car, off your bank account, off your weapons of self-defense, off your liberty, and off your freedom of speech. Insist on all these good things - and that qualifies you to be spat upon by nasty, mean-spirited scum --- by The Friends of All Mankind --- by a gang of lying, thieving, sticky-fingered, bloodsxcking, predatory humanitarian thugs --- by the Democrat party, in other words. No political party in the history of America more profoundly deserves absolute and outright destruction.

Fort Sewall| 7.31.10 @ 12:26AM

OhBummer is a boob and a fool for attacking the American Tea Partiers. He is annoyed that they’re not grateful to him for hijacking the American healthcare system --- the greatest act of vandalism perpetrated upon the American people since a gang of jihadi frootloops and loonytoons hijacked some planes and crashed them into the World Trade Center towers, and the Pentagon, and made a failed attempt to crash into the White House and instead drilled a hole in a Pennsylvania farm thanks to some very courageous American passengers.

And --- now widely seen for what he is --- the president presents a problem for the Democrat-captured media. They pump out his propaganda for him --- and, like the opinion monitors in Ayn Rand’s novel, “Atlas Shrugged” --- they are dodging brickbats and rotten vegetables.

He’s pompous, pampered, and pretentious --- a pseudo-intellectual fop. He’s a glorified, smooth-lyin’ dandy, and slicker than Sick Willie Clinton. He’s a dictator-on-the-make, a bloodsxcking, predatory humanitarian thug, and a low-down skunk.

He’s a fraud and a swindler. He lies when he inhales and he lies when he exhales; his oxygen is the falsification of reality. He lies, placidly and laconically, as if deception were a soporific drug.

He’s a friend of the poor and the downtrodden --- indeed, you can hear the milk of human kindness sloshing around inside of him when he walks.

He declares himself the post-racial leader --- “Let me be clear!” he intones --- and he hides behind his race, daring his critics to put their reputation for fairness at risk.

He pauses to ponder the portent of his propaganda --- and it is fakery; he smiles and his mendacity comes shining through. Shake hands with Barak Hushpuppy OhBummer --- “The Mistake of ‘08” --- the illegal alien squatter in the White House --- and America’s first and last Arab president. Now count your fingers.

martin j smith| 7.31.10 @ 8:20AM

A;amitos Bay--I like your call to Defeat the Democrats and that is what the election is all about.
You see my message is : Vote out --Say No to Socialism.--that is it for now.
As for the republican party Learning their lesson -who cares. They are who they are. But challenge those that behave like Socialists, primary them by all means. The most important thing is to get as many American voters voting NO that the message will be unmistakale But watch out for Voter fraud !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Socialists are good at it.
You see it is not about the Republican Party " learning a Lesson" it is about the American Voters
learning a lesson. That lesson is the MSM lies,and its easy to fool yourself.

S.L. Toddard| 7.31.10 @ 9:48AM

True conservatives cannot recapture the GOP while it is in power, so it is counterproductive to fight to empower the GOP until after it is recaptured. Which is to say that until the GOP re-embraces conservatism, it does conservatism and therefore America a grave disservice to empower that party.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 10:57AM

Oh puleeeze. Right Toddy~ don't vote Republican~ don't defeat the Left. Why, if you were a Doctor and I took your advice, I'd be dead while waiting for the cure!

But you reflect the stupidity of the non-interventionist anti-war Left crowd~ the Paleo-conartists and Lefty Libertarians~ who would rather see the re election of Obama again before you'd want the Republicans to win. It's what you're all about~ a liar and a deceiver.

Thus says the Enemy~ "Don't vote Republican in order to defeat the Communist Democrats! No~ you must WAIT until they "learn their Lesson". In the meantime I will rejoice at the continued destruction of what was once called the United States of America~ the most free country on the face of the Earth by the Grace of God~ and my tool~ Obama~ who you are an useful idiot for~ will continue to do my work. Thank you, useful idiots!"

Thank you, Toddy. For such a supposed intellectual, you have the stupidest "plan." You are obviously not alone! You are in good company~ many of your like-minded useful idiots will do as you say.

And the rest of us will get the government YOU deserve.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 1:38PM

Obviously , Faux -Con Margie would vote for The Serial Traitors to Conservatism John McCain & Arlen Specter again ,if given the chance.
This is the same CINO " Let's Vote For The Lesser Evil " Crap Sandwich These Faux Conservatives have been feedin' Voters for years.

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .

Time For Real Change .

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:15PM

Actually you little piece of lying trash~ the real RINO's are the ones such as Toddard and you Ron Paul anti-war liars. You are Republican in Name Only as you despise conservatives who vote Republican! What an idiot!

Now quit misrepresenting me you loser and get it straight. I vote Republican and I vote for the BEST POSSIBLE candidate. Always.

Did I say you are a filthy lying piece of trash?

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 2:29PM

Did I say You Are One Anger Filled Loose Cannon Apocalyptic Nutbag Margie ?

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:42PM

Ha! Another Paleo-Con-Artiste being rude and crude! I vote with my behind so keep it up and I will blow some loud farts right in your face! I am eating an egg salad sandwich right now and loading up on ammo, you trashy piece of dog-poop. So shut your Big Mouth or I will blast farts at you and everyone you know.

Smell the thunder! That is my new motto.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:48PM

COWARD posts in my name again. Tsk, tsk.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:50PM

Timmy* your ilk disgusts me to no end. You are the scum of this Earth.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 4:34PM

That's Encouraging , Apocalyptic Crank Lady

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 4:50PM

If you want encouragement, go meditate with Ron Paul and Barney Frank as they "work" together to defund our Military. Scumbag.

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 11:24AM

All Budget Categories can be reviewed and discussed .

President Reagan's Secretary Of The Navy , John Lehman .
" Navy shipbuilding fiascoes like the staggering overruns on new surface combatants, the near total failure of the Army's Future Combat System that was meant to re-equip the entire army, the 400% cost overrun of the new Air Force weather satellite -- to name but a few -- all prove that we are currently unable to design, develop and deliver major weapons systems in anything approaching a cost-effective and timely manner. The Government Accountability Office recently reported that the cost overruns for the top 75% procurement programs were over $295 billion. We are rapidly disarming ourselves, even as defense spending grows."

http://online.wsj.com/article/.....60493.html

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .

Real Change In November .

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 1:45PM

Toddard, I mean Tim* has no mind of his own. Like Toddy he just posts quotations.

And this proves exactly what, anti-war, anti-Israel, lying hypocrite?

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 3:41PM

Gee . NeoCon Crank Fanatic Margie !

Take it up with President Reagan's Secretary Of The Navy John Lehman .

" Lehman currently serves on the National Security Advisory Council for the Center for Security Policy , and on the board of trustees for the think tank Foreign Policy Research Institute (FPRI). Lehman is also a member of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. He also served as an advisor to Sen. John McCain for the 2008 presidential race.

carnot| 7.31.10 @ 9:49AM

9.5% and holding

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.31.10 @ 9:49AM

Off topic, folks, but ONE Republican has learned ONE lesson.
Actually, National Review published an article today (Saturday), launched by our own conversations here at TAS...and mentioned by Rush.
http://article.nationalreview......thy?page=1

Congratulations, conversationalists. Your thoughts are getting into the mainstream.

I'm sure Mr. Tyrrell is delighted as well.

martin j smith| 7.31.10 @ 10:06AM

SL Toddard: Do you mean let the Democrat Socialists win because the Conservatives have not taken over the Republican Party ?
Sorry, if you man this--and I hope you do not- that is bad advice. I think the key question is NOT wether the Republicans have learned their lesson but wether the voters have learned their lesson on many issues not least of which is about the MSM and politics. It is about deception and voter fraud. The lesson (s ) in question are: Just because a MSM outlet says something does not make it so. Just because a poliitcal party has done badly does not mean that the alternative might not be worse. Much worse as it appears.
Finally,learn that you are either in the ruling class or the citizen class. The ruling class in the political sphere includes Socialist democrats and Socialist RINOS. Let me illustrate: In today's WSJ Peggy Noonan is kissing flowers to Charlie Christ while stomping on the Tea Partiers. This kind of thinking is exactly how we got where we are. ( in part ) . The voter must get thru the BS offered by MSM pundits such as Peggy Noonan ( a MSM crony Capitalist ) and realize she too is part of the Ruling Class wanna bees.

S.L. Toddard| 7.31.10 @ 10:18AM

Do you mean let the Democrat Socialists win because the Conservatives have not taken over the Republican Party ?

I mean that it is imperative to not vote for socialists just because they have an R in front of their name rather than a D. If a Republican was party to Bush's Great Socialist Government Expansion, or if a columnist or pundit spent his years enabling rather than opposing that process of de-Americanization that Bush accelerated and Obama is continuing, then it is imperative to keep the GOP out of power until such as they have been run out of it first.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 11:02AM

Deceit. There are no Socialists in the Republican party and you know it. Toddard is a Paleo-Con artist and a non-interventionist. He is a Paul-bot and DESPISES Republicans! A "True Conservative" to him is ONLY a like-minded useful idiot.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 1:41PM

Apocalyptic NutBag Margie Is On A Manic Jag .

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:21PM

Timmy boy* ~ Don't you have a terrorist to defend somewhere? Or an Arab to pro-create with somewhere in order to cancel out my vote?

My vote, which of course will be for the BEST POSSIBLE Republican?

Says an awful lot about you, you filthy pice of trash, that you would hate such an honest person such as I who will do the right thing.

Filthy scum.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 2:33PM

Now lovely & demure Margie Sweetie Pie , tell all The AS Readers where Your Margie Religion Of One says practicing Jews and Muslims go when they die .

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:45PM

Way to deflect there Lefty boy. Another trait you share with your lying frauds.

It is you who said that the "increase in the Arab population will cancel out my "Neo-con, Israel-Firster vote."

You're a lunatic anti-semitic liar. Keep up your deceit, loser. You wear it well!

I believe AS readers, as you put it, ought to concern themselves with your mindset more than mine.

Now quit your filthy lying Timmy*. You and I both know where liars go, eh?

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:49PM

And one last thing: Smell the thunder!

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 2:56PM

C'mon Truth Teller , tell all The AS Readers where you say All The Practicing Jews & Muslims Go When They Die .

Truth Now Apocalyptic NeoCon Lovely .

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates Without The Serene And Shy Margie .

Real Tea Party Change In November

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 3:13PM

The Lefty Libertarian mind cannot deal with reality or the facts. Like this example of Tim* they must continually deflect the light.

I never said anything of the sort about practicing Jews & Muslims or where they go when they die. Never. So you lying sack of crud~ post my post from the past that says so if you can.

What I have said though, is that LIARS go to Hell. And that would be in AGREEMENT with what God says.

"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death." Rev. 21:8.

That covers it. Liars and COWARDS. Not MY words, His.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 4:24PM

The hypocritical and shallwe say cowardly Apocalyptic Margie goes into her tap dancing routine , attempting to now parse the meaning of what the meaning of " say " is .

Soooo , tell the AS Readers where You , Margie think and believe practicing Jews and practicing Muslims go when they die .

You are One Plastic Nasty Faux Christian , Sweetie Pie .

We'll Carry Out Our Tea Party Rebellion Without You , Margie .

You Go Sit With The Serial Traitors to Conservatism John McCain & Arlen Specter

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 4:55PM

What a loser piece of trash, oops I said that already!

You apparently have no conscience. Wow! The anti-war anti-Israel scum know no bounds, do they?

Let's make it an issue of me you scumbag. Come on coward~ where's my post, hmm?

Now go play in traffic, loser boy.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 6:37PM

Obviously , Apocalyptic Margie doesn't wanna tell practicing Jews & Muslims where she thinks they go when they die .

Aaaand , Apocalyptic Margie's Litmus Test for all Conservatives and Republicans is Her Israel Agenda .

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates Without Apocalyptic Margie's Agenda .

Real Tea Party Change In November .

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 9:03PM

Lying scumbag.
I have no litmus test. But you do. It's anti-semite or bust.
Piece of trash.

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 11:30AM

Oh Really , Truth Now Apocalyptic Truth Teller Lady !

Then say that you believe that practicing Jews and Muslims , who don't believe Jesus Is God when they die , go to Heaven .

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 1:42PM

Lying scumbag I'm still waiting for you to post your false accusation.

I've posted some of your filthy lies for all to see. Perhaps they need to see some more:

Tim*| 7.10.10 @ 1:53PM

There's no turnabout .

This is The United States and The U.S. Military we're talking about , Not some foreigner nation like Israel and their military.

The Tea Party Rebellion Escalates .

We Remember In November .

~You are an anti-Semetic lunatic Paul-bot anti-war lying scumbag.

Hypocrite and liar trying to paint me as what YOU actually are!

You call yourself a Christian? Have you ever witnessed to a Jew or a Muslim? Do you ever witness for Christ to anyone at all? Do you believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ? That He came to save sinners and to seek and save the lost? Do YOU love the Jew and the Muslim?

C Bowen| 7.31.10 @ 7:54PM

LOL--how many Repubs voted for Big Pharma drug socialism in 2004? How many Repubs defend Social Security and Medicaid?

Why are women allowed to use computers?

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 10:02PM

Then just vote for Obummer, loser. And be done with it already!

chuck| 7.31.10 @ 10:14AM

All this talk of strategy and goals -- less spending, lower taxes, etc is. I think fine but does not get at the heart of the matter, which will tell you why the country voted all these clowns into office. Always remember, the politicians are only doing what the people wanted, or what the people allowed!!

If we want to reverse it we have to answer this question and teach the answer:
WHAT IS THE PROPER ROLE OF GOVERNMENT?

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 4:58PM

Speaking of roles, let's not forget that the Left's role has been to deceive and brainwash the "people" through its long march through our institutions, its success now alarmingly apparent.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.31.10 @ 10:52AM

Chuck,
Memorize the Declaration of Independence, and get back to us.
Martin,
You can't argue with Toddard. He will never learn to sing....and just gets annoyed.

Speedypete| 7.31.10 @ 11:08AM

We need men and women of principles running for office that have principles. Newt recognized that with the Contract with America. The Republican leadership better wise up quick but do they really need to? When Rand Paul and Sharron Angle are the best hope for the nation and these candidates are being dragged behind the media pick up truck for crap like anti-abortion or some other core religious belief that has nothing to do with legislating. We The People need to contribute to these candidates that offer the best hope for fiscal responsibility, border control and against the pandering to lobbyists like Soros with the over 10,000 pork barrel sections in the last 18 months. We are truly insane if the Republicans don't wake up.

C Bowen| 7.31.10 @ 7:55PM

Newt has sworn before God three times that he will stay with his wife, and you trust him?

Battered wife syndrome?

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 10:40AM

Obama is a raging Communist. And you won't vote Republican in order to defeat him?

martin j smith| 7.31.10 @ 11:11AM

Fools or trolls is no matter to me. Its the same. Those people who do not see this election as a referendum will not see it and there is no point in trying to convince the. As far as I am am concerned
there is nothing to be done about them except to expose their beliefs as destructive . Even those who are not trolls and "sincerely" believe such as SL toddard

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 11:42AM

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, Martin. These people do not understand that we need to get another good, honest, small-government, fiscally responsible conservative in the White House again, just like the war hero George W. Bush was! I also want it known that if I seem a little cranky it is just because I have gas. Some times I just try to fart quietly but it makes a squeaking sound and so I ask loudly "Is there a mouse in here?" I am home alone now so I can rip them pretty good and no one will know either way. I just let out a big one and wafted it into my face with my hands. It was loud, like a lawnmower starting up, but it was kind of hot and smelt like egg salad which doesn't usually happen with the loud ones.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.31.10 @ 11:54AM

By golly, Margie, you're right. When you expel a large amount of gas and it makes you're cheeks reverberate and creates a loud sound you can usually expect that it won't be too pungent. But, Lord knows, even that can't be counted on nowadays thanks to the Doofusocrats and Objerkma. Ill tell you what though Margie, that if you ever bomb my trench with your homemade mustard gas, I wont complain. I bet it smells like stars and stripes in addition to eggs and whatever else you had to eat that day.

God bless America! We need to make sure the Demostupidcrats are downwind and all let loose at once next November! Can you smell us now, Washington?

Yosemeti Sam| 7.31.10 @ 12:12PM

Actually the farts are better wafted to the Webmaster for lack of implementation of passwords!

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 11:53AM

The lowlife trolls are using my name. Not my post @ 11:42.

COWARD is the name of the person who posted.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.31.10 @ 1:17PM

Well,
here we go, folks. Hopefully any of you with room temperature IQs can tell the difference between my always brilliant comments and the Soros minimum wage workers posting in my name here.

I actually am quite flattered that they post in my name. It merely persuades me that I have forced them to react to truth and principles in the only way they know. (See the forged posts above for both Margie and I.)
Margie, I hope you are flattered too. If it is good enough for Sarah...it is good enough for me and you.
Heh,
it is truly a shame that the nit-wits cannot write a declarative sentence with decent punctuation and likely onamatapaea though.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 2:38PM

Ken,
Thank you. I ought to be flattered, I guess. The vitriol is always astounding to me though. It certainly does make perfectly clear, and draws a dividing line between those who want to win, and simply wish to do what we know in order to win~ and a line between those who have another agenda.

Here's what I think:

Their hatred for Republicans is a lot stronger than their hatred of the Left, which sadly they share many of the same traits with.

The anti-war crowd, whether they call themselves Libertarian or Paleo-cons, share this hatred of Republicans~ and do not want to see the party win. Not until and unless their anti-war candidates are put in place. You may or may not agree with me on this and I am saying it of my own accord~ but from studying these people and their platforms~ and their posts~ this is what I honestly conclude.

For the regular folk out there who are sick of the Leftist Democrats~ don't be fooled by the lie that "there is no difference between the 2 parties." Go look up your Republican representatives~ see what they stand for. They are NOT Socialists~ they are NOT Leftists. Go read the platform of the Republican party and see that it is one of individual freedom, lower taxes, free market capitalism, pro small business, a strong Military defense, pro life, pro 2nd amendment, to name a few.

Yes, there are a lot of weak Republicans, but that is what the voting booth is for. You vote them out if they don't do their jobs. Conservatives~ and NOT the anti-war kind~ want to see the party restored, not destroyed.

End of "sermon."

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.31.10 @ 2:47PM

Now that's all right, Margie. I know that you probably don't have gas right at this moment, and I bet that when you do it sounds like Uncle Sam a-playing his fife, or like George Washington whistling through his wooden teeth. Also I got your email and yes, I would love to have a Fart Contest with you and donate the proceeds to the Republican Party.

I am eating a mug of beans right now just to get propared! Whoo-boy!

Paul Streitz | 7.31.10 @ 11:51AM

Are these guys out to lunch?

There is not one word about controlling our border and getting the 20 million illegals out of the United States. There is not one word about ending Free Trade and NAFTA. Apparently, according these brains, the idea is to save money on big government so more money can be invested and sent to China, while at the same time giving more welfare to millions of illegals.

Have this group of so distinguished commentators not looked at what is plastered all over the headlines and makes the daily news. Have they not heard of the State of Arizona. Have they not heard of the rancher murdered by gunman who crossed the border, went twenty miles inland and committed a cold blooded murder.

The first job of the government is to protect the States against invasion.

This is a truly out to lunch bunch.

pfs

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.31.10 @ 1:27PM

Hi Paul
You must not drop in here very often. Believe me, the Spectator has hammered every one of your points over and over again.

...Every article can't cover every facet of our situation, OK?
I saw your book cover at Oxford Press. Please keep in mind that articles are by definition..."not book-length".

martin j smith| 7.31.10 @ 12:09PM

To those visiting from another planet: The original article was about Republicans "learning a lesson" but in fact as I see it is about voters learniong a lesson. Especially those who voted for BHO or sat home or voted for some third party--like the rinky dink party. I think a few of us have come to a common understanding that the stakes for this coming referendom cannot be higher., It is an up or down vote on the Socialist Agenda and that is really what it is about period.
It is no longer about the political Parties except in so far the names represent the options. That makes the 2010 election unique and more of a referendom than a a typical election.
Those who people who complain about RINOS or whatever or expect "perfect candidates" 'I regard as fools or trolls. In my oppinion for this partiicular election it isvitially important that as many voters vote Republican ( not that we are enamored with the Party but we are AGAINST the Socialist Left agenda and so we say NON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get it ?

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 12:39PM

Another AMEN from me, Martin. That is the truth. The complainers, especially the Lefty Libertarians who really aren't interested in a Republican win what so ever, are part of the problem. Antle is a Libertarian and always comes up with baiting articles like this.

The truth is that the complainers say "You guys get the gov. you deserve!" But yet they don't vote or vote third party. So we get the gov. THEY deserve.

If the voters got off their butts and voted for conservatives especially in the primaries, and got invilved in the political process~ we'd have stronger Republicans in office.

Well, some have an agenda. The Lefty Libertarians WANT the Republican party to die. Toddard is a shining example of it. His is an agenda of wanting to REPLACE the party with like-minded non-interventionist, anti-war Paul-bots. He is in league with Daniel Larison, websites like Amcon, et al~ all anti-war freakazoids. Lew Rockwell, and the list goes on.

Toddard isn't "sincere"~ he knows what he's doing.

Beware the liars!

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 12:42PM

Oops~ Antle is a Paleo-con. Not much difference. Anti-war with a twist.

ROBERT | 7.31.10 @ 6:02PM

Dear Mr. Smith.

I agree but only to a point, one I think you miss entirely. The United States is on the brink of a financial abyss precisely because of Republicans, who treating conservatives as a circus barker does his rube, and who pretend a conservatism they do not believe or profess truthfully and which, when they are safely returned to office, they betray again.

I agree the election coming up is vitally important. Precisely for that reason, American conservatives do not have the time or leisure to tolerate, to look the other way as, for example, when Scott Brown voted in a finance bill that contains outrageous additional racial quotas a bill which will hamstring an already sinking economy. Republican Rhinos, that is, those who continually betray conservatism, should be punished with political banishment. You may recall the McCain/Feinberg bill in which a Rhino Senator McCain passed a bill expressly contravening the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights. A Rhino Congress and a Rhino Senate passed it and a Rhino President signed it into law. While the First Amendment mandates that the "Congress shall pass no law ... that "abridges" the Freedom of Speech" these Rhinos passed a bill that
gave the government the power to indict, criminally prosecute and throw in jail an American citizen who expresses a political opinion at the wrong time.

Thankfully, although years after its passage, a U.S. Supreme Court struck down the law for the loathsome piece of Rhino political trash that it was.

Just as the Rhinos that run upon the African veldt are short sighted and stupid, unpredictable and dangerous, so too is the Republican Rhino. No matter how grand may be the conservative victory it will be his ambition to undermine and destroy it.

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 6:43PM

Great post.

ROBERT| 7.31.10 @ 7:38PM

AW, GAUD BLESS YA DARCY, YA, HAV A GRAND MIND INDEED.

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 10:50PM

"No matter how grand may be the conservative victory it will be [the RINO's] ambition to undermine and destroy it."

All praise be to you, dear sir, for encapsulating in one sentence the malady of our time. But we shall prevail for our cause is just and right and true.

Is it the Irish you summon or the Scots? Either way, this European mongrel (mostly of British lines) bids you fair weather. French, German, and Swedish blood also flow through these veins.

dw| 7.31.10 @ 6:50PM

There is an absolute imperitive at play here that too many self absorbed ideologist seem all to willing to ignore.
Many of the 'trees' are intent on battling for growing area amonst themselves and are so absorbed with defending their territory that they completely forget about the fire that is raging around them.
That fire will destroy all the trees without prejudice unless the trees band together to extinquish it.
The communist are the fire we must all come together to destroy before they scorch what is left of this country. The principal of the lesser evil must be utilized no matter how odorous that may be for some. but defeat of the democrats at this point in time must prevail.
Check your egos at the polls and run obama and his gang out of town first, then the turf wars can continue. Do not sit at home because you don't have your ideal candidate, instead realize you are voting against collectivism.
Please excuse my attempt at the forest for the tree analogy but it seems to me we are losing site of a simple truth here. We must defeat the obamanation at all cost if we want any chance to save our republic.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 10:00PM

dw~ I so agree with you and so appreciate your posts, thank you.

Skep41 | 7.31.10 @ 2:22PM

Can the seventy-year decline into the morass of a bankrupt welfare stae be reversed by these Republiclowns? It doesnt seem likely. That photo of Dummy Hastert at the top of the column doesnt bode well. The problem is that all but the most 'extreme' elements of the right are still committed to the current system. Their job is to manage the government as it is, not pull it down and start over. The hope is that the situation is so dire that business as usual might not be an option. We'll see, as the Dems are on their way to political extinction.

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 5:02PM

Hey AS authors~ I have a challenge for you. I dare you to reveal the COWARDS true user names here who use the many different names to attack.

Toddard aka Tim* for example? And Tim* using my name, and others falsely?

But Antle wouldn't. He IS Toddard and Tim*! ~So to speak.

Tim*| 7.31.10 @ 6:49PM

Who's On First , What's On Second , I Don't Know's On Third .........

Sooooo , this Toddard Dude is really Tim , except when Antle is Toddard .

Of Course , Margie may be Toddard , unless of course , she's pretendin' she's Tim .

Get The Net For Margie !

Margie| 7.31.10 @ 9:58PM

Oh boo Timmy*~ You all sound exactly alike is the point. Now go home and play with your toys.

Robert | 7.31.10 @ 5:38PM

The Republicans will be returned to power eventually and they will fail as they have almost always failed. In yet another act of insatiate arrogance they will betray the conservatives who placed them in office; in fact, they have begun their betrayal even before the November elections. For example,

1. The new Mass... Senator Brown, placed in office, in no small part, by tea partiers, has signed a finance bill that contains outrageous racial quotas, a socialist repression of free enterprise and the squander of American wealth.

2. Five Republican senators have already pledged their troth to Elena Kagan, our next Supreme Court Justice, who announced her affection for a theory in which she believes the government has the power to redistribute free speech as if it were a commodity, presumably to attain an ideological harmony pleasant to her eye and ear. Our Chief Justice, John Roberts, considered the idea "startling and dangerous."

Sadly, all writers, in my opinion, forget that conservatives are no longer the constituency of the Republican party; they are its shills and rubes. The real constituency, indeed the only constituency, is the wolf both Republicans and Democrats giddily released from the cage, that is the Constitution, the Drafters created to contain it. It is the Welfare State. And like the cute wolf that once grown becomes feral, and vicious,uncontrollable and finally rabid, so has the Welfare State.

Conservatives, liberals and citizens who could care less about the inexorable implosion of this country, have become state serfs, whose job it is, as Hayek so well predicted, to serve an elite and overfed aristocracy that works the gears and levers of the state.

Finally, David Boaz should not be permitted to write with these good conservatives. He blithely dismisses our so called antipathy to a gay moment determined to destroy the ethos of our American culture and as well, to savage the American Constitution. The President and his gang are even now pushing through the UN a resolution that will actually criminalize the merest criticism of the homosexual lifestyle. Where then is the First Amendment? And where is freedom of conscience? If Boaz represents libertarian principles then he and libertarianism are worse than useless.

ROBERT Harkins| 7.31.10 @ 5:41PM

The Republicans will be returned to power eventually and they will fail as they have almost always failed. In yet another act of insatiate arrogance they will betray the conservatives who placed them in office; in fact, they have begun their betrayal even before the November elections. For example,

1. The new Mass... Senator Brown, placed in office, in no small part, by tea partiers, has signed a finance bill that contains outrageous racial quotas, a socialist repression of free enterprise and the squander of American wealth.

2. Five Republican senators have already pledged their troth to Elena Kagan, our next Supreme Court Justice, who announced her affection for a theory in which she believes the government has the power to redistribute free speech as if it were a commodity, presumably to attain an ideological harmony pleasant to her eye and ear. Our Chief Justice, John Roberts, considered the idea "startling and dangerous."

Sadly, all writers, in my opinion, forget that conservatives are no longer the constituency of the Republican party; they are its shills and rubes. The real constituency, indeed the only constituency, is the wolf both Republicans and Democrats giddily released from the cage, that is the Constitution, the Drafters created to contain it. It is the Welfare State. And like the cute wolf that once grown becomes feral, and vicious,uncontrollable and finally rabid, so has the Welfare State.

Conservatives, liberals and citizens who could care less about the inexorable implosion of this country, have become state serfs, whose job it is, as Hayek so well predicted, to serve an elite and overfed aristocracy that works the gears and levers of the state.

Finally, David Boaz should not be permitted to write with these good conservatives. He blithely dismisses our so called antipathy to a gay moment determined to destroy the ethos of our American culture and as well, to savage the American Constitution. The President and his gang are even now pushing through the UN a resolution that will actually criminalize the merest criticism of the homosexual lifestyle. Where then is the First Amendment? And where is freedom of conscience? If Boaz represents libertarian principles then he and libertarianism are worse than useless.

Curly Smith| 7.31.10 @ 6:40PM

The GOP is the more conservative party but its agenda is only as conservative as its 5 least conservative Senators. Because the party has no party discipline, the RINOs can derail any, and all, conservative reforms. Consequently, the GOP's platform is utterly useless. It's why conservatives always get a half-loaf and moldy cheese, and why the country has been slowly moving leftward for decades. It's also why a 3rd party has merit. A 3rd party likely can't win but it can cause the GOP to lose, and the fear of losing can cause the GOP to rethink its agenda. And remember, the GOP's solidarity on ObamaCare had nothing to do with ideology - it was based solely on fear of the voting public.

Consider Doug Hoffman from the Constitution Party who was the Republican nominee in New York over the state GOP's candidate Dede Scoffazza. Had it been the other way, had Scoffazza been the nominee, should conservatives have voted for the "R"? The answer is clearly "no" because she wouldn't have either maintained the conservative/liberal balance within the party or moved the party in a more conservative direction.

Without a national third party or robust state 3rd parties, the GOP owns the conservative vote. They don't need to compete for it because for many they're the "lesser of two evils". Ultimately though, by not forcing the GOP to focus on our agenda, Conservatism dies a death of a 1000 bills. It's not enough to be involved at a local level, we must force the GOP to upgrade their politicians in all locales.

martin j smith| 7.31.10 @ 6:27PM

Save a lot of energy and typing. Just vote NON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vote republican that is all Then you can complain all you want.

Michael L. Hauschild| 7.31.10 @ 6:32PM

This will be one of the few times that a presidential election could change the course of history; truly historical because it will be two in a row. The progressives have done something mindboggling by establishing the foundation of socialism through a stealth candidate, and the cultivation of mandate through the manipulation of the RINO capitulation.
The endless and unresolved debate about “how we should vote” certainly has its protagonists. Should we hold our nose and vote a straight Republican ticket, should we temper that partisanship with an occasional Tea Party offering, or should we ignore the RNC or other “coalition” faction advice and vote each and every candidate as our own personal answer to Constitutionality?
As I see it this is our chance to clean house, send a message to both parties, and actually move the country back to what our founding fathers perceived when they instituted the bill of rights and the constitutional restraints against the tyranny of big government we are now experiencing.
I for one believe that our Republic is durable enough to handle this crisis. I do not believe that a doomsday scenario exists if the House and Senate majorities do not fall into the “Republican” column in 2010. Instead 2012 will be the flash point, the current Democratic majorities and executive branch have done so much self-inflicted damage that a split majority in the house and Senate could not create much further harm. I believe they will all be running for cover by the next presidential cycle.
Why? The term “Republican” is no longer applicable to counter “Democrat,” even the Blue Dogs fall into the party line when summoned. Contrast this with the RINO contingent; virtually every time they are called on for unity they take turns selling out their constituents, their conservative creed, and their obligation to uphold the Constitution. It is the RINO that must share the blame for placing our country us in the dire straits that we are facing.
This has been a long and difficult decision for me. I have come out of retirement to finance my beliefs; my “secondary” income (hard labor at 62, one of those “do not want” jobs) is to finance the candidates I choose. The RNC, your version of “endorsed by,” or your impassioned spirited rhetoric be damned. NO MORE RINO’s! If you will not sign on to the “Contract” I will not vote for you and I will not finance your campaign. If you have ever formed some damnable “gang” or were a part of one I will support your opponent in the primary, tea party affiliation or not.
Those of you that advocate “simply the best Republican” are the first to proclaim “there are no other candidates or the other candidate will not win.” There are other candidates in most instances; the Tea Party virtually assures that such alternatives exist. Returning to “power” the same RINOs will only result in MORE compromise and MORE capitulation as the beltway balance shifts to the “non Democrat.” The RINO’s worst traits are ENHANCED by majority, not diminished.
The only faction that thrives in our current political environment is the incumbent RINO, the suffering we are about to endure due to their treachery will be intense, globally encompassing and decades in duration. I will reward these people no more. We will start fresh, or we will start over. Let the cards fall where they may.

Brian| 7.31.10 @ 6:46PM

I'm for Rush getting his taxes cut and eliminating welfare as much as the next guy. But these should be the last on the list not first. I doubt I'll be voting this time. Repubs mean well but are clueless.

John II| 7.31.10 @ 6:54PM

A Short List of Lefty Depredations:

1. Legalized murder (abortion and euthanasia)

2. Legalized theft (confiscatory taxation)

3. Intimidation (speech codes, fairness doctrines, enforced political correctitude)

4. Moral degeneracy (preferential options for criminals, serial liars, careerist hustlers, radical homosexuals, incompetent teachers, degrading entertainers, insider traders, shabby journalists, gropers, groupies . . .)

5. Fraudulence (junk science in defense of economic retardation and political tyranny)

And that's just the SHORT list. But perhaps long enough for a rough test of the sentiments and the courage of any alleged Republican.

darcy| 7.31.10 @ 7:28PM

Amen and amen to that.

"The RINO’s worst traits are ENHANCED by majority, not diminished.""We will start fresh, or we will start over. Let the cards fall where they may."

Betrayer, thy name is RINO.

martin j smith| 8.1.10 @ 7:55AM

Michael L Hauschild" reasoning is extreme suspiscous and dangerous. Oh, you talk all he want for at the moment we still have freedom of speech to some extent. Here is an excellent example why your views should be met with skepticism: The issue is not about RINOS or either party for that matter. You and others for their reasons are stuck in concept of "poitical parties" What they fail to grasp is that this is not a party issue on this particular election. This a clear Ideological direction that most Americans had they been more alert to who BHO and the Democrat Socialist team really were would have rejected. But
hindsight is 20/20 as they say. Now that voters see that there is indeed a Socialist in the White House ( or Marxist ) and in Congress there is voter remorse. There is no message to "both parties sir. The Democrat Left is no longer an American traditional political Party it is more like those of Europe . The Socialist Democrat Party does not believe in the American Political system but want to change to suit their views and yopu know it. Look at the Kagan nomination for example for SCOTUS. Her background and ideology embody the essence of what the Democrat Socialist Party represents. Thus the idea of "cleaning house" will only be done by the SEIEU cleanup squad not the voters. As for RINOS who are actually Socialist Democrat wannabeez( David Frum,Brooks,Peggy Noonan and il plus Charlie Christ,Arlen Spectre et al. --I say to you this: If you want to save this Republic,vote NON to block the Democrat Sociaiist agenda ( this send a strong political signal to Washington where the People stand. Then, work on dealing the riff raff of politicians of both parties. And by the way 2012 with be also an extremely large year and same ideas I have state apply.
Mr Hasuchilkd you cannot gaurente anything about this Republic survival any more than I can. But I say this, I would my bet my horses on strong turnout against the st democrat socialists than your lame horse any day. So pass on buying this snake oil. Its a ripp off

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 10:06AM

Mr. martin j. smith,

That was excellent. I applaud you! You have put the truth to your pen. All of this blather from the Libertarians about not voting Republican is exactly that~blather. But even worse, it is siding with the enemy plain and simple.

As I've said before, they would rather see the Democrats win so that they can see the Republicans win. They preach and preach about the Constitution and freedom yet the hatred for the Republicans is first in their lives. How sad!

A vote for a third party or a no vote is a vote for the Left.

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 10:55AM

Martin writes :
" -I say to you this: If you want to save this Republic,vote NON to block the Democrat Sociaiist agenda ( this send a strong political signal to Washington where the People stand. "

For reference :
" Non-voting is a strategy employed by various radical libertarians and anarchists who wish to promote a free society yet who view voting to be either unethical or impractical. "

" None of the Above (NOTA) or against all is a ballot choice in some jurisdictions or organizations, placed so as to allow the voter to indicate disapproval with all of the candidates in any voting system. It is based on the principle that all legitimate consent requires the ability to withhold consent, allowing voters to withhold their consent in an election to office, just as they can by voting no on ballot questions. "

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 10:34AM

Correction: should read "They would rather see the Democrats win so that they can see the Republicans lose."

Again~ the Lefty Libertarian platform (go to their website) is one of non-interventionism (anti-war). The reason they HATE Republicans is that we are for a strong Military defense. See C. Bowen's comments to me, above. People like him, Tim* Toddard, et al~ say that we are NOT "true" conservatives because we are not anti-war. Oh, and we are not anti-Israel. C.Bowen says I'm a Trotsyite! A Communist! This is the warped mindset of the Non-interventionist Lefty Libertarian. It is what is behind their sheer hatred for conservative Republicans.

It is what makes them not only perpetual liars, but perpetual LOSERS.

Just remember, when they run as Libertarians 12 people vote for them.

And yet, Ronald Reagan, who they try and claim as one of their own, was a conservative Republican who won in 2 of the biggest landslides in American history.

These are the ideas that win. Conservative Republican win every time over loony Left Wing Libertarian Liberals. They win every time over them.

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 11:55AM

Kingmakers Sarah Palin and Senator Jim DeMint endorse Republican Senatorial Candidate Rand Paul In The Commonwealth Of Kentucky .

We ,Tea Party Rebels Support Rand Paul .

Remember In November .

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 12:51PM

Well goody goody gummy bear drops, loser boy.

Soon as Randy Paul's anti-Israel and anti-war Lefty Libertarian views bubble to the surface, he won't have that same backing.

It's just a matter of time. He and Adam Kokesh the lying scumbag anti-war trash are a team.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010.....-clothing/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....00486.html

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 2:40PM

Sarah Palin and Jim DeMint are endorsing Rand Paul , because this ain't Israel and Tea Party Republican Senate Candidate Rand Paul ain't runnin' for The Knesset , Neocon Fanatic Apocalyptic NutBag Lady .

Margie| 8.1.10 @ 12:52PM

Last but not least:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

Tim*| 8.1.10 @ 2:46PM

Rand Paul :

" I believe that the primary Constitutional function of the federal government is national defense, bar none.

I believe our greatest national security threat is our lack of security at the border. On 9/11, 16 of 19 hijackers were here on ‘legal’ student Visas but were not in school or in the states they were supposed to be in.

Ten years later we are still not policing who we grant Visas to. We gave a Visa to a Nigerian who had made two trips to Yemen, bought a one way ticket with cash and no baggage and his dad tipped off the US Embassy that he had been radicalized.

I propose a moratorium on Visas from about ten rogue nations or anybody that has traveled to those nations. I would keep this in place until our government proves they can manage intelligently our Visa process.

I believe we try the terrorists captured on the battlefield in military tribunals at GITMO. I do not believe in trying them in civilian court.

I believe that when we must fight, we declare war as the Constitution mandates and we fight to win. That we fight only under US Commander and not the UN.

I believe that defending this country is the primary and most important Constitutional function of our federal government. "

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 9:31AM

Dear Mr. Smith, Your comments on Mr. Hauschild's piece is ad hominem, and therefore unfair and irrelevant. You have not made a point other than to announce that you do not trust his reasoning.

I agree with your earlier statement that voters should not stay home out of anger at Republican betrayals during the eight years in which they were in power. During the Bush years, Republicans expanded the size of the welfare state, and spent more money on it than did Lyndon B. Johnson on the failed leftist debacle known as The Great Society. Furthermore, President Bush pushed through Congress, much as did O'Bama his health care bill, a Medicare Supplement Act, entirely unfunded, even as it will require trillions to finance. How then does the Bush Administration differ from that of the leftist Johnson Administration?

Bush, in an Orwellian manipulation of words, described his philosophy as "compassionate conservatism" thereby destroying the plain meaning of the word conservative. He created the failed bureaucracy "No Child Left Behind" and signed every bill presented during the first seven years of his presidency, and financed tens of thousands of pork "ear marks" attached by Republicans in equal measure or better than Democrats.

President Bush advertised himself to conservative voters, in return for their votes, that he most definitely was not a "Nation Builder." However, we have been "building" a nation in Iraq and Alfghanistan for nearly a decade. Things are not going will. Just recently we have learned that the Administration in Iraq "misplaced" eight billion dollars taken from the American pocket. They tell us they will try to emplace a better accounting system that they were using before!

I think your heart is definitely in the right place but you miss two critical facts. First, there is now only one constituency served by the same political acolytes Democrat and Republican; it is the welfare state, and second, Conservatives have repeatedly been betrayed by Rhinos prepared to lie to their conservative constituency so as to take unto themselves the reigns of power.

This is the betrayal that must end. Conservatives gave the Bush Administration eight years to turn this country around. They might as well have voted for a democrat for all the damage he has done. Who was it betrayed the American people? The Rhino. Until the Rhino is banished from politics, we will again be betrayed. That, in fact, is the history of the conservative movement.

Yosemeti Sam| 8.1.10 @ 9:55AM

Um, just allow the voters in November reflect upon their 401K plans - which took a spiral not during the Bush administration but during the BHO administration.

Then let the fur fly in November!

Or, do the Leftoids believe that the wallets of voters are brimming with happiness through change.

senator Dudd and congressman Frankfurter - take a bow!

You too, senator Hatch - as minority leader to Dudds' committee!

martin j smith| 8.1.10 @ 10:08AM

Mr Harkins: If your goal or end game is to see the defeat of the Republican Party and to bring this nation under Sopcialist Democrat control by default--yep my ideas are indeed irrelevant. But if your goal is to block the BHO agenda the my ideas are very relevant. Your call sir !!!!!!!!!!!!

And by the way: If there is a heavy turnoput against BHO one result could be pushing of the Republic Party to the right. There are no gaurentees but I can say the same about you
\and your ideas. So Until I hear that you will vote for Republicans to say NON to BHO --your and your ideas are irrelevant to me.

martin j smith| 8.1.10 @ 10:55AM

one other thought Mr harkins--you are critical of GWB but not a word about our current President BHO ? Why ? Do support or oppose--there is no middle ground her btw. And, GWB has not been our president for about 18 months. You talk about GWB as if he is still the President. Now who also does that. Let me hazard a guess: Why its BHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 10:56AM

Dear Mr. Smith, Thank you for your response. Perhaps we are talking past one another in one respect. I see no alternative but to vote for the Republican party, will do so, as I have since I started to vote, too many years ago, and will urge those for whom I will vote to profess, practice and celebrate a conservative American Creed. However, those who who betray that promise should find no place in political office. The day is too late; too much damage has been done. In this sense, I believe your suggestion that people should still embrace the Republican party, however flawed, complacent and corrupt, is the right thing to do; and indeed, there are new Republicans running Marc Rubio, for example, who will, I think and hope, change the political trajectory of the Republican party. Therefore, I agree entirely with this your premise.

On the other hand, you are gravely mistaken to suggest that the Rhino problem, a synonym for betrayal, is irrelevant. It is, in fact, critical to America's survival that we scourge his presence from government; else we will again, by his ascendence, be betrayed.

Once returned to power the American people must insist that the Republican who professes conservatism in return for political power, actually practices as he preaches. The alternative of course is betrayal or what has come to be known as Rhinoism. The Rhino of either party, once found out, must be banished forever from political office. It is the Rhino that has brought America to the brink of a financial, moral and cultural abyss. It is wrong to suggest that his presence in government is irrelevant. He is the cause of its ongoing destruction.

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 11:07AM

Dear Mr Smith, This response to your supplement. You again engage in the rhetoric of personal criticism. In fact, you question my motives. I do not question yours. I simply think that reason history does not support one of your arguments.

Of course, I detest the works of OBama and his crew in all and every respect. You fail to grasp, however, that O'Bama is not the anti thesis of President Bush; he is his legacy. The Rhino Bush Administration gave us a Democrat President, Democrat Senate and Democrat House of Representatives precisely because they betrayed the conservative principles they professed and which caused conservatives to vote them into power.

Barrack O'Bama is quite tragically the natural consequence of Republican Rhino betrayal

While some of your points are well taken you gravely mistake the compelling need that a politician that professes conservative principles should see that these principles are made part of Republican government; else Republicans will fail again. That Rhinos betrayed this American trust is precisely the reason we have the scourge of Pelosi, Reed and O'Bama. Should Republicans continue as before then we will see his like again in the next decade.

martin j smith| 8.1.10 @ 11:17AM

Mr harkin I in no way say embrace the Republican Party at all. My focus and if you will obsession ( in quotes ) is one thing--get as many people to vote NON by voting republic--not embracing Republican. The Republican line is merely a means to and end and then we re-evaluate once we have gotten this far for the next goals.

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 11:44AM

Dear Mr.Smith, I agree again that the Republican party is a means to an end if by that you mean the preservation of an American civilization, its creed and Constitution, and a fiscal policy that is not powered by corruption, greed and insanity. This is what I mean by the word "Republic" in the classic sense.

However, I believe that great goal will not be won simply by voting Republican; they have failed us these past eight years; I believe instead in the banishment of the Rhino. Fail in this and we fail in everything. Do you agree?

Well if not, then enough said. However, I think it is good to see an upright American like yourself and others here, struggling for a strategy will preserve our country and heritage. We should join hands and learn one from the other. Apathy, inspires only the death and corruption of nations. I suspect you are a good and rational man who is struggling as are we all to keep America, strong, prosperous and free. Keep up the struggle my friend. But first, insofar as the O''Bama Nation is concerned,

Cry Havoc and Let loss the dogs of war.

ROBERT HARKINS

martin j smith| 8.1.10 @ 1:00PM

Change usually happens in stages especially politic social ones ---the first stage is a big NON to Socialism and also RINOS who are also Socialists. Then we consider what the next stage will be-One step at a time - That would be going foward after November 2010 to the next beig election

Emma| 8.1.10 @ 1:45PM

I sure hope that the republicans who write for columns such as this actually take the time to read the comments and find out what their rank and file think of them, their trustworthiness and how frightening it is to have to decide if we are going to trust them.

Maybe instead of term limits (# of terms), we should just change the length of each term and make every single senator and representative stand for election every 2 years. Negotiating with liars is always an impossible task.

John II| 8.1.10 @ 2:59PM

I dunno, Emma--I mean, about reading the comments. This is an awfully long thread, and the folks you're describing have very short attention spans.

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 2:02PM

Dear Mr. Smith.

Good on you Mr. Smith. You also mentioned you have an "obsession;' in times like this we need obsession. Thomas Paine had an obsession also. He got so obsessed one day he wrote: "These are the times that try mens' souls" and so it was then just as our souls are being tried today.

Stay with your obsession. Read, learn and kindly debate. It is apathy we must give up; defiance is far better.

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 2:14PM

Dear Emma,

I agree term limits are a great idea but it would take a Constitutional amendment. About 25 years ago a number of conservatives (Rhinos) got around the Constitutional impediment by "promising" to seek only two terms. 25 years later most of them are still there, corrupt and dishonest promise breakers. Ben Nelson of Utah is one but he is now finally history.

I thought perhaps limiting terms to 30 days but perhaps I go too far. I think two terms and get thee gone; I'm sick to death of thee, would be nice.

You make a good point about listening. We are run by an elitist bunch who look upon us as provincial, stupid, religiously superstitious, a people who must be told precisely what to do, when to speak or breath, how and what to think; an elite who consider themselves so much more intelligent than us ordinary people. Ah, woe on us: We are victims of an ancient Chinese curse. "May you be born in interesting times."

ROBERT

John II| 8.1.10 @ 4:32PM

" . . . an elite who consider themselves so much more intelligent than us . . ."

On the other hand, every time they open their mouths in public, they prove otherwise. Which leads me to some quick speculation. Perhaps the only thing they DO know is that they are much DUMBER and certainly MUCH more corrupt than the rest of us, and all their vile efforts to impose their wills on us are principally motivated by a desire to produce and maintain a smoke screen, as if they're still caught up in some frantic kind of schoolyard fantasy, wrestling with the phantoms of their distant pasts to be the most popular in the class.

Some years ago, after a week or so of bafflement, I figured out that I was being complimented when a friend rolled his eyes over a stray remark I had made regarding a public instance of baffling stupidity: "You're the only person I've ever known who thinks everyone else is just as smart as you."

It also occurred to me that one of the surest marks of stupidity is the rather vulgar notion that one is smarter than everyone else.

Just LOOK at Pelosi or Biden or Reid or the Professor--and listen to the Professor closely whenever his teleprompter breaks down. Utterly dumb bunnies positively reeking with an aura of superiority.

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 4:58PM

How well said and written John II. The Greeks had a name for the sickness of elitism. They called it hubris, defined as an "overweening pride" a corruption of mind and heart the gods lay with a curse upon the prideful idiot: "For whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad."

Your friend payed you a fine compliment. A man who does not think that he is smarter than everyone else owns a mind that is flexible and well tempered, a mind capable, therefore, of learning from others.

I think it takes real discipline to claim ownership to such a mind. I recall when I was 16 I could not believe how dumb my parents were. Five years later, when I reached age 21, I could not believe how smart they had become in just five years!

And now that I am... well... let us say, a bit older than age 21, how much there is to learn and how delightful is the pursuit.

GodSpeed John II.

Emma| 8.2.10 @ 9:45AM

I think you're on to something with your suggestion of 30 days as a term limit. One time.

I actually don't seriously consider the potential for term limits a possibility. There's absolutely no way it would ever be passed with the requirements for amendments. If only the voters would get a brain and impose the term limit option we already have at the ballot box. Obviously it only takes one 2 year term to buy the voters off so they keep voting the shill back in.

somnolence| 8.1.10 @ 3:00PM

My sympathies mirror those of wodiej. Sara Palin has withstood the fusillades. At times Barbour reminds me too much of an insider, or a patrician, albeit Southern style. A Barbour candidacy, like that of Mitch Daniels would be a definite disaster.

Kenneth E. MacAlister Jr.| 8.1.10 @ 5:03PM

First off, The GOP haven't learned a damned thing so they do not deserve to be handed the reins of this country's government again just yet. Second, it is absolutely sickening to read comments here from Republican voters who will fall all over themselves to make excuses for electing more RINOs: "A vote for a RINO is at least a vote against a Democrat!", "A RINO is simply the best we can do!", "Vote Republican & vote often. A vote for anything other than a Republican is a wasted vote!", etc. I refuse to vote for more RINOs simply because they are not Democrats. From here on out I will be utilizing the write-in vote & in place of every assembly line RINO Republican on the ballot I will be writing in GOD. If a vote for GOD over a RINO is a wasted vote Margie, Ken Old Texican, & Martin J. Smith then so be it. I will sleep soundly at night knowing I helped prevent the RINO-led GOP from Assisting in the Democrats' assault on the U.S. Constitution & their further cripling of this once great Constitutional Republic. RINOs are worse than leftists. Leftists don't try to conceal their true intentions. RINOs are like Satan in The Garden Of Eden. Satan had to disguise himself to deceive Eve. Satan was in fact the very first RINO folks. Think about it.

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 5:59PM

Kenneth, I agree. Your disgust with Rhinos is the theme I have written to in the last several entries. I have not read all the entries but those I have read do not suggest surrender to Rhinos.

In my opinion the only hope we as Americans have is to scourge the Rhino from the party, take the party down, scour it out, and build it again with men and women who revere our Constitution, religious tradition and way of life; that is not surrender but defiance.

I sympathize with your anger and have experienced it more than enough myself, and believe if we cannot, finally and at last, expunge the Rhino from government then yours may simply be the only way left, short of mass civil disobedience.

But I am not at all confident your way will work. The Left you describe simply does not give a fig how bad it gets so long as they hold the reins of power. California for example is getting ready to collapse and still the Left demands that all be as it was before, that is before they ran an obscene deficit and ran out of money. Like the Greeks they simply don't seem to "get it" that all the bucks are gone, that all that is left is unquenchable debt.

I think that tea partiers and others of like mind must work toward the banishment of the Rhino from politics. When there is a critical mass of true conservatives in the party and a people willing again to be its watch dog, all things are possible. Times, I think, are changing for the better even as we write. Democrats are hiding under their desk, new and conservative men and women are appearing and winning as leaders. So perhaps there is a chance. That said, it is a hazardous business to place one's trust in Republicans.

Hey. Keep the faith!

ROBERT

John II| 8.1.10 @ 6:44PM

Numero uno on my list of Lefty depredations intermittently sucked up to by the RINOs is the contemporary assault on human life begun formally in January 1973. Take away the inviolability of innocent human life and you've pulled the bottom out of all politics. That is why the politicians who are wrong on abortion tend with uncanny consistency to be wrong or squishy on all the other issues.

When the pro-abortion Scott Brown was being touted as a Republican savior in Massachusetts, for example, I couldn't buy into the excitement, despite my basic agreement with him on several other issues--and I can't feel any surprise over his recent support of the Obamsters' Dodd-Frank abomination, after only five months in office.

Call it the Arnold Syndrome, after California's absurd governor. By a kind of moral trickle-down, if your stance on the most important issue of our era is unprincipled and politically expedient, you're bound to go squishy on any number of other, lesser issues.

And count on this: if the Republicans DO take over Congress in November, Senator Brown will be among those resisting any serious repair of Obamacare, let alone any attempt to scrap the horror and start over with sensible reform.

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 8:35PM

John II.

Now there is a tragedy, Scot Brown. He voted as would have Coakley, or Kennedy we he to rise from his grave and vote (I'm certain he tried), so what have we won? A Rhino who betrayed, with his second vote, the Tea Partiers whose faith and trust helped place him in high office. What good for conservatives is a "Republican" who votes for a bill will increase drastically the racial spoils system which makes certain racial groups, Hispanics and Blacks ,like George Orwell's animals (in his satire "Animal Farm),more equal than the rest. The Law of course, will grossly corrode the economy and constitutional government. Go figure. The Republicans have not yet won back a majority and they are already investing in our betrayal. Now as I see it there should be a weekly demand posted to Brown's website that he immediately resign his office. He will refuse of course, but after the four years (this country does not have) he should be driven from office and banished from conservative society. Enough!

Kenneth E. MacAlister Jr.| 8.1.10 @ 6:45PM

Thank you Robert Hawkins for your response. You actually seem to get it & didn't lambaste me as a traitor for refusing to vote for anyone The GOP throws at me. I won't write off The GOP completely, but I will not vote for anymore Arlen Spectacle-type RINOs. Being from PA I've had more than my fill of RINOs. Thanks for conversing without the verbal warfare that takes place here way too much & for not being a water carrier for The GOP while wearing blinders for them. That happens too much here as well. GOD bless you sir!

Robert Harkins| 8.1.10 @ 8:23PM

God Speed Kenneth and good luck.

Thom| 8.1.10 @ 6:10PM

In the short run it does not matter if the GOP has learned anything or not. Nothing short of a veto proof Congress is going to undo anything already passed into law. Un-funding a particular program or two which won’t become law without a veto proof Congress will just produce a budget grid lock and a 24/7 endless assault on those Republicans that support such measure by a Media controlled by 80% Democrats. An endless parade of victims from grid lock will play out as before when it was tried with the Republican Congress of the 90s. Even with a diminished Democrat Media machine, the non Democrat Media is dwarfed by what is represented by ABC, NBC, CBS and the bulk of big City Newspapers as to reach and content. If the playing field in this regard is not leveled, it will take at least a veto proof Congress to overcome this and the odds are overwhelmingly against that for any period of time that will matter.

With the country divided along the lines of who pays the taxes vs. who benefits from them, two trillion of the Federal budget being social entitlements combined with the un-refunded State portions of same, the core problem this Nation faces is institutionalized into our laws. If you don’t change the laws, nothing of material value is going to change about the problems we face. No one knows how to reform Social Security simply because the premise upon which it is based is false and has always been so. Same for Medicare and the prescription drug program. All these programs are wealth transfer payments from two generations to another in practice right from day one. The debt in SS was front loaded in 1935 and is now coming due. It has never been a trust fund and has always been the primary retirement plan for people who vote Democrat. Medicare is just an extension of SS and the same end result could have been accomplished by raising SS payments to allow retired persons to buy insurance on the free market like the rest of us have to but being a separate government program gives the government more control over those dependent upon it….. Medicaid and the SCHIP program are just “free” health care insurance like the 15-30 million new dependents under ObamaCare will receive at someone else’s expense. Missing from all these entitlement programs is individual responsibility to provide for one’s self coupled with generous incentives to not do so throughout the productive years of a person’s life. In effect, all the welfare programs that don’t require payment into them or repayment are forced charities. It ceases being a charity when it is forced.

Does the GOP have the courage to change SS and all the other entitlement programs to not be based on Karl Marx’s redistribution plan or to expect repayment for said Public Assistance? Of Course not. I can just imagine the 24/7 parade of victims on the nightly Democrat news, etc. If these programs are not fundamentally changed in character, they will bankrupt this Nation regardless of what happens with ObamaCare piling on even more. There is no such thing as an affordable retirement plan that does not invest and grow over time. Transfer payments just rob the working to pay for past promises made on the backs of future generations. The Democrat plan is to save these programs by killing the patients. No one wants to speak the truth about what is wrong with SS and all the other entitlement programs. The GOP tends to just want to make Karl Marx’s nightmare redistribution plans efficient. Nothing but higher taxes on the working will keep these plans afloat as structured and as structured SS pays out less than a government mandated minimum wage job now on average. 78 million Baby Boomers aren’t going to vote to live a life of poverty or take the blue pill to save the systems they’ve paid into their entire lives.

By all means I hope the political process is up for the challenge ahead but short of a well spoken leader with a thick skin, a principled agenda and the courage to execute upon that agenda and hold members accountable for signing up for said agenda nothing of substance is going to change after the November elections. King Obama will be in control of the executive branch at least till Jan 20th, 2013 unless he is removed from office before hand and a grid locked Congress will not undo any damage done or continuing to be done by fiscal acts of buffoonery done to date. It will make great political theater for many in the political class and those that consume that but we live in serious times that require serious decisions and the will to follow through upon things generally not popular with the slave class that depends upon an ever expanding and generous government with taxpayer monies. When this game of fiscal musical chairs ends there are going to be a lot of people that call themselves Americans without having a clue what that really means short of a place to sit. They are going to expect someone else to provide them with a chair because that is all they’ve ever known in life. This night mare is going to come to an end by one means or another. The only question undecided is the means.

The GOP will fundamentally have to change its practices if it is to be up for the task. Marx lite has run its course for the other Democrat Party.

dw| 8.1.10 @ 11:25PM

Brilliant, intelligent postings here filled with truths and convictions.
Putting aside the minutia of particular ideologies and personalities the bottom absolute is, we must take out the democratic party as it is now constituted, and in particular the pretender known as Obama. His very presence in our White House should represent such an abhorrent spectacle that his ouster should become the obsession of us all.
Libertarians must vote against Obama not necessarily for a republican for a greater good. Being right will not be of benefit if we all become wronged by the further presence of these socialist parasites. Yes, RINOs' like Spector should be banished from our midst with extreme prejudice but again our obsession for our various ideologies must be subserviant to the fixation of restoring our republic.

brian| 8.2.10 @ 2:28AM

First, get rid of Michael Steele and the other RINOs. Graham, McCain, Collins, Snowe, Scott Brown. Then, put in the Tea Party candidates and pay attention. Don't think the problem will be solved with just this one election.

B-Rob| 8.2.10 @ 6:24PM

I predict that the GOP will not take the House or the Senate. The reason is simple: they have offered no agenda whatsoever. Take, for example, the Bush tax cuts and the deficit. Back around 2003 or so, the Bush administration's OMB admitted the obvious: that decreasing the tax rates led to a direct decrease in revenue.

http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....r_the.html

Quote: "Although the economy grows in response to tax reductions ... it is unlikely to grow so much that lost tax revenue is completely recovered by the higher level of economic activity."

Extending the Bush tax cuts, as EVERY deficit calculation chart shows, will increase the deficit. Now you would think that the self-styled "party of fiscal discipline" would offer decreased spending cuts to offset the decrease in revenue that will surely come from extending Bush tax cuts. Instead, the GOPer leadership, from McConnell to Pence to Ryan, etc., to a man REFUSE to even engage the subject of spending cuts. Add on this:

http://www.gop.com/index.php/b.....y_medicare

Yes, you read that correctly: the GOP thinks Obamacare should be opposed because it DECREASES MEDICARE SPENDING BY A HALF TRILLION DOLLARS! Meaning, the GOP now opposes reducing spending on one of the most costly programs that poses the biggest financial danger for this country . . . and they are willing to run against Obama on just that issue.

This is why the GOP and the conservatives will make no real headway: they stand for nothing. Overspending is bad, unless it is for a needless second jet engine that will be built in Indiana. (Real profile in courage, Mike Pence!) The Magic Tax Cut Fairie will cause more tax revenue to flow in, even though no state facing a fiscal crisis has responded by cutting taxes! And Obama must be opposed because he actually pushed something through that will restrain spending on a huge entitlement! And that's just wrong, squeal the conservatives!

How long do the conservatives think they can snow the voters like that? How long? Not long!

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