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The Current Crisis

Amongst the Gibbering Journalists

What’s with the wretches and patheticos also known as Journolists?

WASHINGTON — The other day in the Wall Street Journal, my friend Fred Barnes deposited a few thoughts on journalism provoked by the discovery of a mother lode of left-wing bigotry, screeds, and semi-literate gibbering. He hastened to tell his readers that there was no conspiracy behind the journalists’ “tilt” to the left, but rather, “The media disproportionately attracts people from the liberal arts background who tend, quite innocently, to be politically liberal.” Then he filed a caveat, noting that “hundreds of journalists have gotten together, on an online listserv called JournoList, to promote liberalism and liberal politicians at the expense of traditional journalism.”

Well, let me address Barnes’s thoughts before jumping on the Journolist controversy. I rather doubt that journalism was ever a conspiracy. If fact, I doubt that journalism was preordained to be dominated by liberalism. There was a day, before the New Deal, when there were plenty of journalists who were not guided by left-wing ideas or any motive at all. The clever journalist, usually, just wanted to get a good story. Yet the New Deal came along, and then the War, and finally television. At first, it was humanitarian to be in sympathy with the New Deal. Then it was patriotic to be in sympathy with what was a growing homogenization of views amongst news gatherers. Finally, it was good sense to be a liberal newsperson. By the time television came into its own, liberalism was the corporate mentality of the news gathering business. Hence you can take a television news gatherer or a print news gatherer and plug them in interchangeably.

But by the 1990s this corporate mentality had begun to change. Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes saw a market. They dissented from the media’s corporate mentality and presented the news from a conservative perspective. Talk radio came along and presented a conservative talk venue. Now Fox News alone brings in more revenue than the combined revenue of CNN, MSNBE, and the network news shows ABC, NBC, and CBS. The corporate mentality was suddenly in trouble.

Instead of breaking up along reasonable lines, it has tried to remain coherent and viable against the odds. While Murdoch and Ailes at the Wall Street Journal and Fox have employed ideologues and entertainers, the media’s stalwarts are all “true” journalists who have continued gathering the news, pronouncing on it and covering their gluteus maximus when some poor wretch such as Dan Rather proves to be an embarrassment.

Recently there proved to be another embarrassment. I have in mind Barnes’ “hundreds” of journalists. They were indeed sedulously advancing “liberalism and liberal politicians at the expense of traditional journalism.” Yet, with admirable sang-froid Howard Kurtz, who watches over the corporate mentality of journalism like a mother hen, tsk-tsked , “They [“some of these messages”] show liberal commentators appearing to cooperate in an effort to hammer out the shrewdest talking points against the Republicans — including, in one case, a suggestion for accusing random conservatives of being racists.”

Did you say “liberal commentators,” Howard? They were all left-wing commentators. One of the reason the keepers of the news’ corporate mentality can no longer be taken seriously is they cannot identify a “left-winger.” There is no sense of symmetry in their world. Where the products of Murdoch and Ailes can be called conservative, no product of ABC, CBS, NBC, the Times or the Washington Post can ever be called liberal, to say nothing of left-wing. Call them the products of the corporate mentality.

Typical of the corporate mentality — any corporate mentality — they lack wit, humor, any form of urbanity. Here is a sampler preserved from the Daily Caller by Peter Wehner of the sort that aroused Barnes’s initial thought on journalism:

LAURA ROZEN: People we no longer have to listen to: would it be unwise to start a thread of people we are grateful we no longer have to listen to? If not, I’ll start off: Michael Rubin.

MICHAEL COHEN, NEW AMERICA FOUNDATION: Mark Penn and Bob Shrum. Anyone who uses the expression “Real America.” We should send there a** to Gitmo!

JESSE TAYLOR, PANDAGON.NET: Michael Barone? Please?

LAURA ROZEN: Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich (afraid it’s not true), Drill Here Drill Now, And David Addington, John Yoo, we’ll see you in court?

JEFFREY TOOBIN, THE NEW YORKER: As a side note, does anyone know what prompted Michael Barone to go insane?

MATT DUSS: LEDEEN.

SPENCER ACKERMAN: Let’s just throw Ledeen against a wall. Or, pace Dr. Alterman, throw him through a plate glass window. I’ll bet a little spot of violence would shut him right the f*** up, as with most bullies.

JOE KLEIN, TIME: Pete Wehner…these sort of things always end badly.

Then there was a NPR producer who wrote she would upon hearing Rush Limbaugh had a heart attack “laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out….I never knew I had this much hate in me.”

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About the Author

R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator. He is the author of The Death of Liberalism, published by Thomas Nelson Inc. His previous books include the New York Times bestseller Boy Clinton: the Political Biography; The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton; The Liberal Crack-Up; The Conservative Crack-Up; Public Nuisances; The Future that Doesn’t Work: Social Democracy’s Failure in Britain; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; The Clinton Crack-Up; and After the Hangover: The Conservatives’ Road to Recovery.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (58) |

Kitty| 7.29.10 @ 6:39AM

They aren't journalists; they are White House stenographers.

Appleby| 7.29.10 @ 6:59AM

Those of us who were in liberal arts programs in the Sixties -- when we knew what the current lot do not: that university is not a vocational school and is meant to fit you for life in the wider world, not for earning a living -- recognize these gibbering children as the same ones that did all they could to prevent the rest of us from getting the education we were paying for.

Unlike them, however, we do not sit arould hoping they will die. We learned during our liberal arts studies that the only way the world ever changes is when the current lot die off and are replaced by people who know better. Our world view is longer than the next issue of People Magazine; we can wait.

Fortunately there will be a very small next generation of liberals, as most of them were aborted before they could pick up the baton...and most of the old guard are too busy chugging Viagra and trying to convince young girls that a Smart Car is way better than an Aston Martin DB9 to notice.....

FTM| 7.29.10 @ 10:08AM

Spot on Appleby, fire for effect.

Kevin| 7.30.10 @ 3:13PM

I LOVE your point that "university is not a vocational school and is meant to fit you for life in the wider world, not for earning a living."

I took a wide-ranging variety of courses to meet my liberal arts college's graduation requirements for # of elective credits. Everything from Russian History (because this was in the early 90's and seemed important to me) to Philosophy to Sociology to Logic and Critical Thinking to one religion course named "Consciousness East and West."
I remember my "advisor" looking over my transcripts and asking me, "What were you doing?" I looked her straight in the face and said, "Learning."

That was about 14 years ago and I suspect she's still sitting there in her office with that blank, uncomprehending expression on her face.

Tulsa Jack| 8.2.10 @ 9:39PM

Back when the word "higher education" meant learning profound truths by studying the best that has been thought and said in the world, President Conant of Harvard said that being educated means to recognize the extent of your ignorance. What makes these "JournoList" ninnies so repulsive to me is their ego-mania. So dishonest! So unprincipled! So vicious! They have no meaningful higher education. They remind me of beetles crawling around under the bark of a tree. No normally intelligent person would take them seriously, except that their have power to distort the news and ruin honest lives. To my mind that makes them, and the people who created them, public enemies.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.29.10 @ 7:26AM

Ironically, it isn't Rush Limbaugh who is dying, it's the main stream media. The lady who made the comment, Sarah Spitz, a producer for the NPR affiliate KCRW based out of Santa Monica, should be fired, but many liberals in the MSM share her views. They are practicing fascists but would never admit it.

Sarah Spitz is an employee of NPR which means the taxpayers partially support her. Why wasn't she fired? Because NPR is a liberal organization and like most liberal organizations they couldn't care less about principles or the truth.

The fact is they are not reporters they are advocates. They see a news story as a prop to forward their political points of view. In that sense they are closer to an advertising executive trying to sell a car, as opposed to any real tenets of journalism.

FTM| 7.29.10 @ 10:12AM

To fire somebody for participating in a mess like this would mean that the boss would have to have some integrity. That's the last thing that anybody involved has is integrity.

I didn't know that Nazrallah Propaganda Radio was still on the air. Do they still have a two whole listeners?

Dixie Pixie| 7.29.10 @ 10:25AM

Was there was a difference between selling ShamWow and the selling of Obama.
Is the journalistic ethics are the same in both cases.

A. C. Santore| 7.29.10 @ 10:54AM

Unfair comparison!

ShamWow does exactly what it said it would do.

And doesn't tear your automobile apart or steal your money and your freedom while doing it.

Dixie Pixie| 7.29.10 @ 12:40PM

Elegant point Santore.

However I was not trying to compare dissimilar products.
I was trying to point out I can find no ethical difference in the “journalists” selling physical and political products.
If there is such a difference I would like someone to point it out.

djtmar| 7.29.10 @ 4:29PM

A better analogy would be Tommy Vu, the asian "get rich quick" infomercial guy in the 90's. Lots of hype and the same phoney results.

Nunya| 7.29.10 @ 5:28PM

Actually, I bought Sham Wow to use when cleaning my motorcycle, and it absolutely doesn't work.

It is the exactly the same as Obama.

poppycock!| 7.30.10 @ 2:23AM

i threw a sheet of shamwow in the lake...collected up the fish...then wrung the shamwow and refilled the lake....

Dixie Pixie| 7.30.10 @ 10:27AM

Just a quick question PoppyCock.

Did you find Obama among the other bottom feeders of the murky depths.
Was he flopping around throwing slime in every direction as is his usual nature and custom?

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.29.10 @ 7:29AM

By the way feel free to e-mail KCRW in Santa Monica and request she be fired for her radical comments. She's listed as the publicity director.

http://www.kcrw.com/about/who-does-what

bluecollarbytes| 7.29.10 @ 7:49AM

Imagine my 'surprise' to find that the private deep-thots of these mental midgets proves they are guilty of what they so freely accuse others of- small-minds, bigotry, and a simpleton's ideology. Obama doesn't stand a chance at re-election without them backing his own....'stuff'...

Harry Flashman| 7.29.10 @ 9:06AM

The 2008 presidential election may someday be regarded as the most stupendous confidence trick in American history and the mainstream media may be damned for aiding and abetting this crime with a most egregious failure of professional responsibility.

Virtually the entire paper trail of the current president's existence has never been released or allowed to be subjected to any sort of scrutiny, despite several years of repeated requests by numerous individuals and non-traditional media organizations. His original typewritten long form birth certificate, school records, SAT and LSAT scores, college and law school transcripts and term papers, medical records, passport history and other relevant documents all remain deeply hidden away. This degree of comprehensive secrecy is unprecedented in American political history. Every modern presidential candidate has willingly released these records and documents upon request, sometimes directly to the campaigns of their rivals, thus acknowledging that the process of running for president should be the toughest job interview on the planet. The current president is the sole exception. The Obama 2008 campaign and subsequent administration has to date spent in excess of three million dollars in legal fees to fight Freedom of Information Act filings and other requests to examine these documents and records. What is being hidden and why are they hiding it?

Since 2008 the great preponderance of mainstream media coverage relevant to this basic issue of truth and accountability has selectively focused on the so-called "birthers" and portrayals of them as irrational or disturbed individuals obsessed with the belief that the current president was born in Kenya or Indonesia or outside of the United States and is thus ineligible for this office. In fact, astute observers in corridors of power and other quarters have always rejected this notion, amid widespread and growing speculation that the impossibility of Obama ever producing his original typewritten long form birth certificate is a matter of true paternity rather than place of birth. More and more people have used a search engine to find and compare photos of the late CPUSA member and radical activist Frank Marshall Davis with photos of the current president and photos of the late alcoholic bigamist Kenyan Barack Obama "Sr." The Obama 2008 campaign did release a computer generated short form version of a birth certificate, but this only made matters worse for them, intensifying the requests to see the original typewritten long form document.

Journalism used to be about the search for truth. You may decide for yourselves how you might describe it at the present time.

Mattled| 7.29.10 @ 10:49AM

Six people were recently charged and convicted of trying to break into Columbia's computers to obtain Husseins records.
Did anyone else hear about this? Evening news?
No.
They want no attention whatsoever being drawn to this shroud of secrecy and the 3MM dollars so far being spent to cover all his tracks.
BTW---who's footing the 3 MM bill? Odoogie?
Doubtful. How about we find out who is footing the bill. Us the taxpayers? If we are, then it's fair game.
If not who-----and let's uncover it.

Petronius| 7.29.10 @ 9:51AM

What's missing here is that the standard leftist pimping for the world to be as they would have it is now escalating to provocation. These bastards want somebody on the right to commit a violent political act so that their regime can take preemptive action to prevent further Conservative participation in national politics. Much as I would enjoy seeing Ms. Spitz dining on the impact of a Louisville Slugger, let the rants continue. Only their friends are listening.

ncatty| 7.29.10 @ 9:54AM

Journalists are not "professionals", do not have an enforceable code of ethics, have no licensing body to which abuses can be reported, are not required to take continuing education in their field, and are free to lie, cheat, misrepresent facts, slander, libel and be partisan while trying to disguise their partisanship. This applies to TAS as well as the NYT. All a "journalist" can aspire to is an earned reputation for accuracy in facts and disclosure of bias. Then let the consumer judge the result.

FTM| 7.29.10 @ 10:17AM

Your point exactly which is what main stream print media in the United States is fading into financial irrelevance.

Pat| 7.29.10 @ 12:45PM

Ncatty: Exactly correct, and the worse blow is that nowadays anybody can be a “journalist” – which is the deepest cut of all to these self-appointed “professionals”. And thank the internet for providing a venue for all of us “journalists” to express our opinions and publish those facts the mainstream media somehow always overlooks – a thoroughly despised and uncontrolled process eating at the guts of former national opinion makers such as Paul Krugman, Ezra Klein, Spencer Ackerman, Chris Hayes, Michael Scherer plus 50 other “Journolist” members of this pathetic conspiracy of impotent dweebs. To reassure themselves of their own journalistic virility, these sad individuals hatched playground plots to plant lies about conservatives, to label folks as “racists” and to attack conservative politicians indirectly by devising speculative stories like questioning the parentage of Sarah Palin’s disabled son.

Bring more than 2 of them together on their electronic bar stools and their emotions immediately ranged out of control – some wanted to see Rush Limbaugh dying so they could laugh, others screwed up their personal courage to describe throwing conservatives through plate glass windows – something they could do only in their rich fantasy life. Saddest of all was witnessing them collectively banding together to defend Obama’s virtue, a man none of them were ever close to even though they longed to be, a politician who wasn’t their personal friend, someone who wouldn’t even think to include them in a game of one on one. But, it gave them a thrill to appoint themselves as Obama’s protectors and band of merry men and women. Think of the emotional satisfaction and rediscovered relevance they felt imagining themselves as Obama’s defenders and advocates. Based on their emails, these "Journolist" folks had completely lost touch with reality and weren’t likely to seek the medical help they so obviously needed.

So, Ezra, Paul and Chris, you won’t live this down, you made yourselves into court jesters, not only for today but for the foreseeable future - and listen closely from now on, can you hear the laughter?

ncatty| 7.29.10 @ 2:39PM

The current "journalist" cannot compare to a real "reporter", like the ones I knew at the Winston-Salem Journal, especially one named Jesse Poindexter. Jesse was a WWII Navy enlisted veteran who graduated from UNC after the war. His most prominent characteristic was skepticism, and the higher positioned the claimant the greater the skepticism (and fact-checking). He had the lowest tolerance for B.S. of anyone I have ever met. R.I.P. Jesse.

Pat| 7.29.10 @ 7:33PM

Ncatty: I didn’t know Mr. Poindexter, but I suspect we need to sing ‘Auld Lang Syne’ for many journalists of the “old school” – men and women with more integrity than spitefulness. And what proves that assumption is how various colleagues of this “Journolist Group” roster of pre-schoolers reacted to the Daily Caller’s revelations. Some of their colleagues excused the Journolistas, their hearts are pure though their rhetoric is laughably juvenile. Others, like the Wall St. Journal, scolded them, but lovingly, these naughty cockroaches are members of our profession so only us journalists can judge their crimes. Others defended them, obviously regretful their own names weren’t included within the published list of the Journolist group members – all contemporary journalists have this teenage girl like urge to be “noticed”.

Even this author, Tyrell, went off the deep end. He rather doubts that journalism was ever a conspiracy – since when? We watched as that pathetic numbskull Dan Rather tried to get, or rather invent, the goods on Bush, but he was simply trying to outshine other journalists doing exactly the same thing. And remember the media’s collective love affair with young Bill Clinton and his lovely bride, Hillary? It took Monica and that blue dress which missed a pick-up by the cleaner’s to eliminate the combined cheering section of those non-conspiratorial journalists.

Unlike all those CIA conspiracies the media was once so fond of revealing, the Journolist conspiracy wasn’t nearly as sophisticated or well planned. Instead, we have 400 idiots who thought their inane emails would remain secret forever – no one would ever go off the deep end and let the cat out of the bag. Since half these Journolistas appear to need frequent medication, if not outright commitment, that was certainly a naive assumption. The only thing missing from this Simpson’s episode was 5 undercover FBI agents pretending to be “Progressives” to make this your typical conspiracy plot similar to one orchestrated by angry Klan members in Alabama. Only, I suspect the Klan would have managed their security arrangements better.

FTM| 7.29.10 @ 10:36AM

Did you guys read this over at "Politico?"

http://www.politico.com/news/s.....40308.html

I'll save you the time, it's the typical leftist, fall-back arguement whenever they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, "we were trying to do good... This was never supposed to happen... we were so idealistic."

I can only imagine what would be the outcome if conservitives were to be caught out in the same mess, the phrase, "Media Fire Storm" comes to mind.

If there were any justice in this world there wouldn't be a newspaper delivered tomorrow morning or a TV news show broadcast. NPR, Nazrallah Propaganda Radio would be dead air because there wouldn't be enough people left at any single organization to meet their committments after the massfirings and resignations. The shame of it all.

I think that the White House should cancel the press passes of anyone involved. But the White House cancelling press passes would mean that there would be some integrity in the White House and by now it has become apparent that there isn't.

President Barak Hussain Obama. The mistake of '08.

Citizen Jerry| 7.29.10 @ 10:48AM

These children talk a good hateful game, but I doubt any of those little weenies actually have the cajones to defenestrate the object of their hatred.
P.J. O Rourke calls it Toddler Liberation: the freedom to pull down your pants in public, yell poo poo head in a crowded theater and stick everything in your mouth.

Anthony| 7.29.10 @ 12:05PM

Jerry, I bet the woman on the "View" today were all vying to stick everything in their mouths.
It must have been quite a show; hope the janitorial staff had sufficent mops.
Did they all wear matching knee pads?

Clinton nee Publius | 7.29.10 @ 11:08AM

These people enjoy special class protections under our constitution so that we may have a free press that holds all segments of our society accountable and to relieve us of the darkness where accountability dies and corruption thrives. These are pipefitters. These aren't doctors. These are people who have a special protection and have a special responsibility to our society.

They are supposed to be the guardians of the American Way of Life, democracy and the standard that makes everyone else in the world want to have a society like America.

They actively, continuously and voluntarily betrayed their obligations. They betrayed their special status in favor of personal ambitions, profits and libel. They actively conspired to shield our people from the truth so that a fraud could be perpetrated upon our people by which they materially benefited. They used mass communication devices to further this fraudulent scheme and they actively coordinated their work with the subject campaign and neither declared their support in their political advertisements, nor did they declare the dollar value of the contributions they made and the quid pro quo of advertising their sponsoring publications received.

Let us be clear here. This isn't a matter of their intentions having gone astray. This is a criminal conspiracy and it is the largest criminal fraud case we are likely to ever see. They actively and voluntarily participated in the disenfranchisement of 309 million Americans for their own benefit and at our exclusive expense and risk.

The failure of our society to hold these people criminally culpable will be taken as a sign by the rest of the world that the shining beacon on the hill is no longer shining, is no longer a beacon and was quite possibly just a fraud.

Marc Jeric| 8.2.10 @ 2:56AM

Congratulations! The best analysis one could find here. Abu Hussein al-Mombassa (or wherever in Kenya this marxist Muslim was born) is planning 1) a financial rescue of our commie papers and TV's; and
2) destruction by executive order of Fox and conservative radio.

Fast Johnny| 7.29.10 @ 11:11AM

Maybe not a conspiracy per se, but vertainly a collective action on their part. They all knew what they were doing and watched their friends and collegues up the ante of attacking the 'other'. One can liken it to a riot, where senselessness of actions are common and all those with like sentiments who readily loot and damage the community do so without clearly thinking of what they are doing.

Leo| 7.29.10 @ 11:17AM

What I really want about "Journolist" is a list of its participants. Plenty of content has been posted that reveals its intent and impact, now let us see who these people are and what names they write under.

carnot| 7.29.10 @ 12:20PM

yup. to use their verbiage..."accountability"

John II| 7.29.10 @ 4:54PM

Don't forget "sustainability," a more recent buzzword among the brain-challenged elite--roughly speaking, it means keeping things going exactly the way they are: downhill.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.29.10 @ 11:21AM

AWWW Emmett,

Sometimes you are just too darned thoughtful.

You and I both read the "Advice And Consent" series of books way back when. You and I know these folks are simply the modern version of PRAVDA....US.

I shall never be able to thank you properly for providing this venue for adults to converse...and properly provoked to THINK by you and your contributors.

Who do we shoot for treason first?

Nunya| 7.29.10 @ 5:32PM

Let me know, I'm leaving now to pick my rifle. ;-)

Maddox| 7.29.10 @ 12:36PM

Liberals defend their failed policies by claiming "good intentions."
The intent of the journolisters may not have been a conspiracy but the result certainly was.
They also "intended" to keep their agenda secret which is an admission of known guilt.
Ken posed the proper punishment for them.

Walking Horse| 7.29.10 @ 12:39PM

The droppings left by the JournOlistas appear consistent with the hypothesis that what formerly constituted our Fourth Estate has become a domestic Fifth Column.

Harrison | 7.29.10 @ 12:45PM

I'm wondering why the Journolist wasn't more ethnically diverse (something they say Republicans should be).

Ned| 7.29.10 @ 1:08PM

Nicely done, all! Thoughtful. Entertaining. Tart and (usually) succinct. TAS is always first on my web-surfing list cuz a you'se guys....

Bloefeld| 7.29.10 @ 2:24PM

The problem with this current journalism cohort is they were all educated on the postmodernist premise that 'truth' was fungible, and capitalism is evil.

They are a discredit to themselves and to the profession. We have no convenient way to find the truth in any current day matter. It probably isn't there and what stands in for the truth is a slightly less obvious lie.

Cheers,

Bloefeld

George F| 7.29.10 @ 2:30PM

"MICHAEL COHEN, NEW AMERICA FOUNDATION: Mark Penn and Bob Shrum. Anyone who uses the expression "Real America." We should send there a** to Gitmo!"

A journalist using "there" instead of "their?"

Yeah I know I'm being picky but...

Sam| 7.29.10 @ 2:40PM

It seems to me that everyone who cares realizes that these people are very instrumental in the demise of this country. Corrupt politicians, insane leftists, one world order power mongers, etc., are working tirelessly. The questions is what are We doing besides endlessly discussing the slaughter. It is long past time to put it in gear and actively and legally oppose these people on every known front. Action.

PolishKnight| 7.29.10 @ 2:47PM

I was debating in a washingtonpost comments blog and one of the PC respondents got flustered and blurted out: "How are you able to make a living? A racist like you would not be hired. HR and hiring managers know to spot guys like you who aren't at our parties."

This is the stalinist thinking that permeates "soft" careers such as journalism where political views and race/gender are the primary qualifications. "Racist" is their code-word for someone that they've identified as a non-true believer and the goal is to economically destroy them via backroom discrimination.

No doubt there are journalists who go into college with conservative views. They probably don't have too many friends. Then they get out and apply for work and the local blueblood interviewer doesn't recognize them but they do see the resumes from a bunch of their good ol' boy/girl buddies at the local Obama rally. Guess who gets hired?

As I've said in other observations about the decline of the leftist "mainstream" media, I refuse to pay a quarter, (now 50 cents) for a copy of the commie Washington Post. If I need sunday ads, I get them online from the store directly. If I need work, I go to monster and dice.

In the meantime, the typical leftist is a twitter (appropriate term) youth who doesn't even know what a newspaper is (until he outgrows leftism as smart people eventually do) OR an illiterate whose only hope or ideal is to get a government program to bail him out for belonging to some special interest group. Either way, they don't want to read the Dowdy Maureen Dowd's latest column "People who disagree with me are stupid bigots!"

Marc Jeric| 8.2.10 @ 3:02AM

Back in 1969 this former refugee from a communist hell called The New York Times "The New York Pravda", and The Washington Post "The Washington Izvyestiya".
I am happy to see so many of you here finally catching up.

ACynic| 7.29.10 @ 2:48PM

These Journolists are just frustrated that they were never able to land a job with Josepth Goebbels' propaganda newspaper DIE STURMER.
How ironic, Ezra Klein and Joel Klein both members of a "reporting" group that has much in common with Die Sturmer.
Goebbels must be laughing in hell.

Larry| 7.29.10 @ 2:53PM

I have been reading the Spectator for some time and started to do so online. My impression from the posts I have read are that you must be inbred. All the paranoia and fear is a bit over the top.
And the misinformation is over the top. Do you people actually read the articles?
Most people realize that the 8 years of Bush have destroyed the conservative movement. Ballooning deficits, two unfunded wars, huge growth in entitlements, expanding numbers of government employees accompanied by an expansion of government. This isn't going to get any better as long as we have politicians who lack the guts to do what is necessary to correct these problems. I watched Meet the Press this Sunday and witnessed two of our leaders stumbling for what seemed like an eternity to name the programs they would cut in order to reduce the national debt.
All these people care about is getting elected and left or right they will lie to keep their voters happy and ignorant.
Those who rely on pundits to tell them the truth are lazy and ignorant. This has become a game, a past time of blame focused on labeling putting a label on a movement Tea Party, NAACP, Liberals, ACORN, and writing uninformed comments about the entire membership. It's all propaganda designed to divert the simple minded.
Why does this group always have to have an enemy who is out to get them?
Is it possible for anyone on this list to read a book from the "enemy"?
Take a critical look at these postings, they're filled with fear and hate. That's not what the conservative movement is about.
Do you believe that people who post here are part of any movement? People like "Bill Hussein O'Stalin" need to get a life or a job and stop destroying any credibility the conservative movement has left.
Change has to come from within not from this circle jerk.

Otis my man!| 7.29.10 @ 4:47PM

Thanks Larry. You've reminded me that if there's one thing I can't stand, it's intolerance!

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.29.10 @ 5:11PM

...I WOULD NEVER NAME A SON..."LARRY".

Larry by definition means "stupid beyond belief".

it is sorta' like "Gary"...heh... they never grow up.

I read "Larry's" post above and laughed my rear off.

Larry, are you willing to put your little life on the line as we have?
All of us are on the "list".

We are content to be there. Rush and Sean might get away with speaking the truth. Those of us here have little protection.

Put YOUR life on the line opposing these communists...and I might...might...respect you.

ZIBGNEW| 7.29.10 @ 7:29PM

Shut up Larry. You tell everyone on this board they are filled with hate after you just called them inbred? Take a look in the mirror at hate Larry.

carnot| 7.29.10 @ 10:03PM

man...you nailed it! expanding entitlements has always been the agenda of the "party of no"! you dim lightbulbs need to get your stories straight - best host another Journolist confab!

carnot| 7.29.10 @ 10:05PM

speaking of generalizing from a small sample set!

pinhead.

Deborah D | 7.30.10 @ 6:25AM

If your concern is the conservative movement, then you have a strange way of showing it. "Compassionate conservativism" is what destroyed Bush and his type of "conservative" -- perhaps your type.

It's time to look at reality, Larry. This country is being taken down by Obama and his cronies. Take your hands away from your eyes and look at reality. Everyday there's a new abomination. Pay attention. Your angst and anger are misplaced -- direct it where it should go.

CIVIS AMERICANUS| 7.29.10 @ 3:10PM

Why isn't there a "[sic]" after "these sort"?

It's DER not DIE STURMER

carnot| 7.29.10 @ 10:01PM

9.5% and holding

Yosemeti Sam| 7.30.10 @ 1:13AM

Yeah, what you all - minus the ciphers - said.

Journolist cabalistic clique claquers - JCCC!

Hmmmm, there was another notable acronym with 3 Cs - CCCP.

Yo, order of the day to the JCCC - find that Mao Zoo Dung White House Christmas tree ornament!

All then will be forgiven.

LOL.

Sarbo| 7.30.10 @ 9:49AM

Folks in India have always marveled at the American interpretation of the word 'liberal'. Modern India is in many ways a child of the European Rennaisance and we interpret 'liberal' in the same way as Europeans do.

As many know, post-war Europe has practised socialism, much to its own detriment. But Europe has seen the face of fascism up close and personal. Germany, Spain, Greece, even France's Vichy regime ... they have all had their fascists. So, 'liberal' is anti-fascist. No one in Europe has seen it necessary to invent a word like 'libertarian' to distinguish themselves from fascists.

Ralph Novy| 7.30.10 @ 12:07PM

Mr. Tyrrell:

"But by the 1990s this corporate mentality had begun to change. Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes saw a market. They dissented from the media's corporate mentality and presented the news from a conservative perspective."

Your attempt to suggest that the "conservative perspective" is anything other than an even MORE egregious "corporate mentality" is disingenuous and utterly unpersuasive.

Osamas Pajamas| 7.31.10 @ 12:59AM

Drill Democrats! Drill ALL Democrats! Drill, baby, DRILL! And when the garbage is cleaned away --- call it "ethical cleansing" --- drill for oil and gas and coal and uranium, etc. Kill anyone who tries to stop us.

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