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Justice Unattainable

By on 7.27.10 @ 6:08AM

A lenient sentence in Cambodia.

The Communist jail warden responsible for the deaths of more than 15,000 Cambodians — part of the Khmer Rouge genocide of approximately 1.7 million people — is guilty. He might be incarcerated 19 more years; less if he behaves well, as is expected.

Appropriate punishment against Kaing Guek Eav, known as the Tuol Sleng prison’s Comrade Duch (pronounced Doik), had little chance of implementation and was never going to fit the crimes (especially since the Southeast Asian nation has no death penalty). “Even if we chop him up into two million pieces it will not bring our family members back,” said Huy Vannak, a television news director.

But even with those low expectations, the sentence was a shock to many. “It comes down to serving 11 ½ hours per life that he took, which is just not comprehensible or acceptable,” said Theary Sang, who lost both her parents during the Khmer Rouge reign of terror in the late 1970s. Few Cambodians, even today, live without the knowledge (or vivid memories) that parents, grandparents, siblings, aunts and uncles were brutally killed or starved to death during Pol Pot’s reign.

Duch received a 35-year sentence, but was credited with the 11 years he’s already served. He also was granted a five-year term reduction because the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia found he was illegally detained before the creation of the war crimes tribunal. According to news reports, judges were also lenient because of contrition he expressed, for accepting responsibility for his crimes, and for cooperation he provided in cases against high-level Khmer Rouge officials that are expected to go to trial next year. They also apparently considered that Duch was part of a criminal system in which disloyalty on his part would have cost him is own life — in other words, he was “following orders.”

But accounts of Duch’s life even before Pol Pot’s rise show he was a dedicated believer in the cause and was willing to inflict unimaginable evils upon fellow countrymen for their dissent, whether real or imagined. Quoting French scholar and former Communist Party of Kampuchea (Cambodia) captive Francois Bizot, Yale University historian Ben Kiernan noted:

In his few months’ captivity, Bizot “discovered that Duch believed all Cambodians of differing viewpoints to be traitors and liars, and that he personally beat prisoners who would not tell the ‘truth,’ a matter which drove him into a rage….” A CPK defector who met Duch in either 1972 or 1973 recalled him as “ill-tempered, impatient and doctrinaire.” 

The paranoia carried over to Duch’s oversight of Tuol Sleng, also known as S-21, the secret Phnom Penh prison where guards administered extreme torture and extracted phony confessions from captives. He described repeatedly during the trial how he was responsible for death and duress, and that no one escaped or was released. Most accounts say that only seven people survived S-21. “The children were separated from their mothers and those children were smashed,” Duch said. “Because they needed the mothers to be separated so they could be interrogated, those children were smashed.”

It was worse — if you can believe it — as Nic Dunlop explained in his extraordinary book about Duch, The Lost Executioner. The convicted jailer’s expectations were well understood and obeyed, as Dunlop discovered in an interview with Ham In, who in 1972 was captive at Duch’s first prison in Amleang, called M-13:

[Ham] never saw Duch give any orders. The guards knew exactly what to do. The prison was well organized and the guards disciplined. Many of them were children of twelve or thirteen, some as young as seven. They were considered more trustworthy than their elders, unpolluted by the old ways. These children had been forcibly separated from their parents and the Organization became their only family. They became fanatical, blind leaders of the revolution, following every order to the letter, no matter how absurd or brutal.

So the stated reasons for leniency by the court were invalid. Duch was as dedicated to the Communist agrarian utopia ideal as any Khmer Rouge. He admitted culpability repeatedly in court and said he deserved severe punishment. And he called into question the sincerity of his remorse by demanding his immediate release on the last day of his trial in November.

But we’re talking about a corrupt Cambodian criminal justice system that was not enhanced by the backing and involvement of the U.N. Also, many former Khmer Rouge (including Prime Minister Hun Sen) serve in the Cambodian government presently. So far only Duch has been tried, while top Pol Pot lieutenants Khieu Samphan, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary and Ieng Sirith — all age 78 or older — await indictments maybe at the end of this year. Only recently have they all been arrested and jailed. Even if they survive until trial, which could last years, how serious could the justice be?

Most news articles note Duch’s born-again Christianity, with some suggesting that was part of the reason for an eased sentence. In a largely Buddhist country I doubt that’s the case, but if so, that’s unfortunate. Duch may be welcomed into Heaven because he put his faith in Jesus Christ for the remission of his sins, but that should have no bearing on justice here.

What should be taken from this chapter of evil that will never be requited? Focus on those who God preserved, through miracles and their own resilience. The amazing story of Cam Youk Lim, who saved herself and five children by escaping to the United States via Vietnam and France, is a great place to start. Her son and my friend, Sophal Ear, tells the story. There are many others.

About the Author

Paul Chesser is executive director for the American Tradition Institute and a senior fellow for the Commonwealth Foundation for Public Policy Alternatives. The views he expresses do not necessarily reflect the views of these organizations.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (35) |

Carol| 7.27.10 @ 6:37AM

Unless someone knows history, especially in this country and with the current Regime in place, that horror can happen anywhere.

Obama is friends with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, proud members of the Weather Underground and domestic terrorists and murderers, and they know if they intend to succeed with "The Revolution" they will need to silence millions, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ

vtwin| 7.27.10 @ 8:24AM

William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Bernardine Dohrn, ACORN, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Bernardine Dohrn, ACORN, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Bernardine Dohrn, ACORN,….

"SWEET ZOMBIE JESUS" -- Professor Farnsworth

Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 7.27.10 @ 8:58AM

There you go Vtwin, keep repeating that mantra to yourself over and over again!! What happened in Cambodia (Russia and China before it), is exactly where the likes of these characters, and their way of thinking will ultimately lead everyone too, DEATH!! Keep chanting Vtwin, never forget, never forgive, and never allow it to happen here.

William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Bernadine Dohrn, ACORN, Pol Pot, Khmer Rouge, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Moa, Che, Castro, and the list goes on, and on, and on!!

Maybe we can turn this into a rhyme or something? But wouldn't you know it, I'm not a poet!!

Eric Cartman| 7.27.10 @ 9:39AM

Hi, L Cubed. What seems to be vtwin's problems are that he doesn't like us exposing his friends scummyness and he thinks he is funny. Also, maybe we can get Jesse Jackson to get all "poety" on the names - he's great at crap like that! "I was up in Hymie Town, dancin and gettin down"!

Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 7.27.10 @ 12:04PM

Eric: I almost felt sorry for the attendees at the Netfags Convention this year, they had to endure some really terribly boring speeches, from Harry "I talk like a fag" Reid, to that "so-called" comedian (amazingly) turned Senator, Al "I've never been funny in my entire life" Franken. And you wonder why there so pissed off when they post here, you be too, after ruining a completely good weekend out in Vegas watching that crap!!

And speaking of Jesse, watch this from Saturday Night Live. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

Eric Cartmen| 7.27.10 @ 12:15PM

Hi L Cubed - keepin' your ass down? Stay safe. Look at Reid - he looks nervous LOL. They're pissed because they know we are going to take apart their precious programs piece by piece LOL. Watch how pissed they are after that! THAT'S gunna be funny as hell!

Eric Cartman| 7.27.10 @ 9:54AM

Did you notice that last week when the "Pimply Faced, Pantie-Wearing Wussie Boys" convention in Los Vegas - I'm sorry, The Netroots Convention - that was mean of me, to point out their personal traits. Anyway, did you notice how quiet the Am Spec board was? Hardly any Lefty Scumbags to deal with. Now we know who is posting here - who the provocateurs are . As a bonus, it show how much we bug them when they squeal like the stuck pigs they are. We live inside their heads rent free! LOL

John II| 7.27.10 @ 11:44AM

Ballad of Twitty

Of all the little tics
That you can find among the Left,
There's nothing like the picks
They make to show their hearts a-cleft:

The nasty thugs and un-
Repentant killers and the creeps
Who strut upon just one
Idea in nasty bounds and leaps:

One World is what they truly want,
An ant-heap to deploy--
No God except the ego's grunt,
No thinking and no joy.

Eric Cartman| 7.27.10 @ 12:11PM

J the Deuce! Excellent! I like it!

Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 7.27.10 @ 12:51PM

Eric: "We live inside their heads rent free". You're absolutely right about that, and there's plenty of room in here too, seeing that they have no brains. Sometimes after work, I like to take off my stinky boots and socks, and throw them over by their nose to ruin their evening. And if I'm really in a bad mood, I'll read out loud from Sarah Palin's Going Rouge. It drives them crazy, although it's not a long drive!! I'm never moving out of this pad, never!!

Eric Cartman| 7.27.10 @ 1:03PM

LOL - funny. Personally, I like to stub my cigar out on their cerebral cortex. It makes them start to sputter "Bush, Rove . . . Bush, Rove . . . Bush, Rove . . . Florida 2000!"

JmsA| 7.27.10 @ 1:22PM

vtwin,

What's the matter, you couldn't come up with a reasonable argument to defend your buddies?

Alan Brooks| 7.27.10 @ 12:55PM

"Unless someone knows history, especially in this country and with the current Regime in place, that horror can happen anywhere. "

That is not conservatism-- it is rightwing paranoia.
Put on your tin hat.

JimE| 7.27.10 @ 9:36PM

Pol Pot never happened, just asked Brooks and vtwin's buddy chomsky.

Tom in Michigan| 7.28.10 @ 5:10PM

You are correct. It's just conservative paranoia.

Who would ever imagine that a Democrat administration would create concentration camps and incarcerate an entire group as potential enemies like say, 110 - 120,000 Japanese Americans, including women, children and the elderly which we all know occurred during FDR's reign? The left loves to prattle on about this, conveniently omitting the fact it was Roosevelt who did this.

However, a lesser known and equally egregious crime occurred. Roosevelt also incarcerated over 11,000 German Americans during World War II as well as over 4,500 ethnic Germans who were extradited to the U.S. from Latin America. You don’t hear about this injustice though as the Germans are inconveniently white and don’t fit the left’s narrative about what a racist country this is.

Of course, this was nothing new for the Democrats. The precedent was established by Woodrow Wilson who placed restrictions on German-born male residents of the United States over the age of 14(!) during World War I. Members of my family who emigrated-legally I might add - during the German migrations of the mid-nineteenth century fell into this category. Many German Americans changed their names to avoid public stigma. My Great-grandfather changed his name from Johannes to “John.” His brother, changed his name from Eugen to “Eugene.” Nevertheless, they registered according to the Democrat President’s edict. Never mind the fact my Grandfather was a combat-wounded, decorated veteran of the Rainbow Division in World War I. Never mind the fact he spent almost 9-months in hospital recovering from his wounds.

Over 250,000 people were required to register with the Federal Government led by Democrats, to carry their registration cards at all times (how AWFUL! that Arizona wants illegals to identify themselves-guess it’s OK for legal citizens of German descent - I found the leftist media’s parroting of a faux German accent, “Vere are your papers” was their little joke during the first days of the Arizona immigration law - to be almost as childish as their love for the term “teabagger.’ Wonder how a fake Japanese or black American accent would go over?), and to report any change of address or employment. The same regulations and registration requirements were later imposed on German American females.

Over 6,300 German Americans were arrested. Thousands were interrogated and investigated. A total of 2,048 remained incarcerated for the remainder of the war.

The left has a conniption when we want to lock up our enemies but seems to think it's OK to lock up loyal Americans who they, in THEIR paranoia deem to be their enemies.

Nah! Can't happen here and, especially with the Democrats in charge. Only a Republican like Bush would lock people up without trial.

Tom in Michigan| 7.28.10 @ 6:57PM

Carol, Please see my comments below about concentration camps and intolerable acts committed against groups (I only mentioned Japanese and German Americans - the same can be said about Italian Americans during World War II) whom Democrats previously deemed their enemies.

I'm not certain you are necessarily aware of this history but, your comments seem to indicate you are, indeed.

Wherever the left gains power, human rights violations such as concentration and "re-education" camps soon follow. You need only look at the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany (the Nazis were leftists - it was the National Socialist German Workers' Party), the Red Chinese, Fidelista Cuba or any other leftist hellhole to understand this.

Is it possible the Obamaviks will establish something this horrible? Well, even I think it's unlikely but, it's not impossible considering the history of the Democrat Party, which before now was not even as leftist as it is today.

Ask youself this: weren't FDR and Wilson two of our most revered Presidents? They were but, look how they treated their perceived enemies.

Is it feasible that a student of Frank Marshall Davis and Saul Alinsky could do something equally evil? Well, we hope not but it has happened before under Democrat rule.

Harry the Horrible| 7.27.10 @ 10:17AM

While may not bring their family members back, slow roasting "Comrade Duch" on a spit might be very instructive to future generations.

FTM| 7.27.10 @ 10:28AM

Hi DAC,

I know, I think I know, how you feel but let me ask you how doing any of the above to this guy would accomplish anything, solve any problem or replace any life? Yup, the guy's a monster. All his buddies are monsters.

I say that the simplest thing to do would be to simply turn the guy loose. I suspect that he'd last about fifteen minutes.

What about the American Military, Intelligence and political folks that knew for a damned, air-tight fact what was going on in Cambodia and didn't say a word? How about the UN for that matter, they knew too.

By the bye, there was a guy in college that I kinda/sorta knew that escaped from Cambodia. Before he got out of Cambodia his parents and brothers and sisters were taken away by the Khmer Rouge and killed off one by one on the way to wherever it was that they were going. Apparently the men and boys were just killed. The women and girls were kept around for a while for their entertainment value.

Anyway, to make a long story shory, this guy started killing the Khmer soldiers after they had finished with his family. There was a rumor that the guy ate the heart of the first guy that he killed. I don't know, don't want to know and it's none of my business anyway. I don't think that he got to kill them all becaust the Khmer caught on and took countermeasures. Anyway, to make a long story short, the guy made it to the US, was adopted by some folks then went off to college and his only reason for living was to join the American Army, learn how to be a soldier and then go back to Cambodia and kill Cambodian Communists.

That's a hell of a way to live a life.

dac| 7.27.10 @ 10:49AM

Briefly in response to the "what good would it do?" line of argument: it would be good because the little bastard DESERVED it, and his mutilated corpse would be a good EXAMPLE to others like him (especially, people like the Vtwin poster here, who would put us all in concentration camps if he and his buddies could--and they're laying the groundwork now, so be vigilant).
And that Cambodian friend of yours who made it out while knowing his family was being tortured and killed--good for him. He has my undying admiration. You have the luxury of saying "That's a hell of a way to live." He didn't. Would you seriously just find a guitar and sit on a corner, soul-searching and preaching against violent retribution, if your family was massacred that way? I think THAT would be a pathetic way to live.

vtwin| 7.27.10 @ 12:40PM

“(Vtwin poster here, who would put us all in concentration camps if he and his buddies could--and they're laying the groundwork now, so be vigilant).”

“Concentration camp,” more like a mental hospital! Does the term Paranoid Delusions mean anything to you?

dac| 7.27.10 @ 1:21PM

Vtwin, please go ahead and explain to all of us the differences between the Khmer Rouge's ideology, and Obama's (or, Van Jones, or Bill Ayres, or Rev. Wright). Once you've explained that sufficiently, then maybe I'll let my guard down.
But since you can't, and won't, and you clearly think you'll be one of the guards at the camps instead of one of its first victims, I'll maintain my vigilance and do everything in my power to ensure that when Maobama's thugs come for my family, they'll lose a lot of stormtroopers in the process.
Were Armenians "paranoid" in 1915? Ukranians in 1930? European Jews in 1933? White Rhodesian farmers in 1978? Do I need to go on, jackass? Evil exists--you ignore it, or you're a part of it. Either way, I and most others on this site will be more than happy to put you out of your misery if you ever threaten us.

Tom in Michigan| 7.29.10 @ 12:27PM

Thanks for the heads up!

The Soviets infamously used mental hospitals to incarcerate their enemies:

http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/421666

The Chinese Communists still do this:

http://www.thejcl.com/pdfs/munro.pdf

You may actually be on to something here.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.27.10 @ 9:54AM

I posted this on one of Quin's blogs yesterday.

I am shamelessly re-posting it here because
Dixie Pixie
Got on my case about staying "on meme".

I'm hoping all of you will see it here, since the blogs have such a short "shelf-life" on this site.

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.26.10 @ 4:22PM
Well Folks,
It is another of my quiet Sunday thoughts. I guess you could say I had another one of them there “epiphanies” this morning while reading an article over at American Thinker.
(http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/whos_watching_big_brother.html )

I am a proud Tea Party supporter…”roll back government intrusion…taxed enough already…”
But,
Those of us who are Christians MUST remember that God Himself is literally watching over our shoulders. He will either bless our actions…or not….and He knows our innermost heart.

It finally dawned on me this morning… “WE ARE ENGAGED IN A BATTLE OF WE FALLIBLES AGAINST EVIL”. I am defining “Evil” in precisely the way the Bible defines it. (Turning one’s back on our Creator.)
As Quin suggested in his blog Friday… Obama and crew have literally declared war on Louisiana. I added Texas and Oklahoma and Arizona to the list, but I must add all of you “God-acknowledging “ folks reading this to the list.

Folks, I no longer call myself a “CONSERVATIVE”. I don’t want to conserve what our country has become. Yeah yeah, the term has been coined …and we know what it means… to each of us …… more or less. Nevertheless, until I can come up with a better label for me, I shall just call myself an “ORIGINALIST”; in the sense of the original founding principle of our country in the Declaration of Independence “…… endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness.”

And again “….. all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. “”).

Folks, in my heart of hearts, I believe we are rapidly approaching that point of “absolute Despotism” referred to in our Original Declaration. That Declaration ushered in our REVOLUTION BEGUN IN 1776. In the Spanish language then… “Viva La Revolution!” (long live the revolution!)

As I see it, we have literally been in the midst of a “counter-revolution” for many years. The forces of evil, (defined above), are now arrayed against us…and our posterity. Think about it a moment before discarding this question: “What in the world could align our present ruling class with Islam?”

Allies of convenience?

My answer is simply this. “Our ruling class… and Islam…and the communists… have turned their back on our Creator, and for precisely the same Object; to “reduce (us) under absolute despotism.” ……AND…ultimately mass murder unless we “submit”? (The exact English term for “Islam”, interestingly enough).
So,
I think we must re-define “The War”. ….. We have all read endless yakkity yack about our “culture war.” Bull-corn!!!!!! We are at war with Evil, with a capital E.

“”…That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.””

It seems to me that we are rapidly approaching the point where each of us must decide to either “submit”….. or….. withdraw our consent to be governed by these kinds of people.
Please do not be distracted.

Jeremiah| 7.27.10 @ 11:39AM

All those turds, the like of Ayers, Dorn, Fonda...Let's call them the Duch bags!

Ken (Old Texican)| 7.27.10 @ 1:39PM

JEREMIAH!
We don't use that kinde of language here! Just order the "ladies" a "vinegar and water, neat, no ice", and leave it at that. (grin)

Wrenold's Rap| 7.27.10 @ 1:59PM

Alan Brooks, what makes you think any nation is incapable of such? To be that naive doesn't require a tinman's hat, it requires a scarecrow's head full of straw.

Jim O'Brien| 7.27.10 @ 2:19PM

Just as there was for Hitler's Nazis, there should have been a worldwide manhunt for any living Communists who participated in the slaughter of millions of people in the USSR, China, and other countries.

Why wasn't this done? Because terminally ignorant elitist and effete liberals have a bias in favor of socialist regimes.

Now someone will split hairs by saying, for example, that the USSR was not a socialist country, but a communist country ...... an empty point. The Communists named it the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, or CCCP.

gene hauber| 7.27.10 @ 3:42PM

HIS CUP IS FULL AND GOD WILL HAVE HIM DRINK FROM IT ON JUDGEMENT DAY.....FEAR NOT FOR JUSTICE.

Joseph Chiu| 7.27.10 @ 4:00PM

Obumma, Bill Airs, Pol pot, and this gentleman warden, they all have good intention don't they?

WRJonas| 7.27.10 @ 4:19PM

I would like to see some court somewhere tattoo the words 'convicted mass murderer" across the forehead and then turn the fellow loose. Let him fend for himself. Society at any level does not guarantee anyone total safety.
Even self righteous abortionist doctors are nervous around strangers.

Tom in Michigan| 7.28.10 @ 11:39AM

When you look into the eyes of this killer-without-a-soul, you are looking into the eyes of the Communist nightmare.

I am employed by one of the world's best-know and most-respected global companies. My colleagues include Russians, Chinese, Vietnamese, Poles and others who have lived under the Red boot. To a man, or woman they will tell you living under Communism was hell.

Something to consider next time you see some leftist idiot like Oliver Stone or Michael Moore or Maxine Waters ooze over some other Commuist mass murderer like Fidel Castro or claim another murderer of millions like Mao as a "mentor" as Anita Dunn did.

I recall vividly the images of the "Killing Fields" and the impotence of the Carter Administration. It's true though, that even if they "chopped this guy into a million pieces," the evil cannot be undone. These people need to be stopped before they gain power; which we would have done except for the Democrats refusing to aid the Cambodian freedom fighters let by Lon Nol. At the forefront of this infamy was Congressman, now Senator Chris Dodd and others of his ilk.

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