FreedomFest in the statist moment -- coming to you July 8-10 from
Las Vegas.
"I've felt for some time now that the freedom movement,
broadly defined, was divided and losing the battle, slowly but
surely, for our economic, financial and political liberties,"
acclaimed economist Mark
Skousen says. "We're like a herd of cats, everybody doing
their own thing."
In 2002, while serving as president of the Foundation for Economic Education, Skousen
had an epiphany: Why not corral the free-market feline fracas in
"the world's most libertarian city" for a few days to "learn,
network, and celebrate liberty"? The result was FreedomFest, a fun, engaging,
always eclectic, occasionally eccentric swirl, which, yes, delves
deeply into politics and policy -- immigration, energy
independence, geopolitics, science -- but, unlike the myriad
Manichean which-way-to-power political confabs, also expands its
cultural purview in serious ways. It is almost certainly the only
politically minded conference this year that will cover Billy the
Kid, baseball, Edgar Allan Poe, and new discoveries of the Hubble
telescope, as well as feature both science fiction writer Orson
Scott Card and Steve Forbes -- the latter, I'm told, may give his
keynote speech dressed as George Washington. "Freedom," Skousen
explains, "means different things to different people."
Skousen was kind enough to chat recently with TAS
about convening the seventh installment of FreedomFest at this
strange moment in history during which the federal government is
expanding almost as rapidly as Americans' professed skepticism of
it is yet the momentum seems about as slowed by public opinion as
Obamacare was.
TAS:Are things
better or worse for liberty in American now than you thought
they'd be at the conclusion of last year's
FreedomFest?
Mark Skousen:Definitely much
worse -- new taxes, new regulations, new entitlements, ObamaCare.
There's even a new law that requires Americans
to report if they own more than $50,000 in assets in foreign
countries. This may be the beginning of foreign exchange
controls.
TAS:Is
there, then, a greater sense of urgency for this year's
incarnation of FreedomFest?
MS:Yes. We're holding a
special "emergency" session this year -- actually a series of
sessions -- on the Obama agenda and how it is destroying our
economic liberties. Liberty-minded citizens
are fed up with the direction this country is taking. The tea
parties are a reflection of that anger.
TAS:How
will the "Crisis in America" emergency session go about
addressing all of that?
MS:That's the great thing
about FreedomFest. I really don't know. Ours is an open forum,
and I'm just as anxious as you are to know what our top experts
think is the problem and what to do about it. We have experts
coming from all parts of the world -- Europe, Russia, Africa,
Asia, Latin America, and North America -- to give us a world
perspective. We have experts from the Wall Street
Journal, like Steve Moore, Investors Business
Daily, Cato, Heritage, Reason magazine,
Newsmax, Fox Business, etcetera. You know, many
countries have not lost their freedom and are not suffering from
a financial crisis. We can learn from them, too. This is not an
exclusively American event. It's a worldwide phenomenon.
TAS:Perhaps
one of the most surprising things about our recent travails is
how, far from the Great Recession ushering in a new ear of
proletarian fealty to Leviathan government, skepticism of both
government response to the crisis and big government itself
appears to grow more widespread every day. Is it your view that
more Americans are receptive to the sort of ideas espoused at
FreedomFest than at any time in recent years? And, if so, will
the fest deal at all with how to reach out to newly disillusioned
independent and nonaligned voters?
MS:We are libertarian, but
we encourage people across the political spectrum to attend our
conference. We make a big point of avoiding labeling people
liberal or conservative, rightist and leftist. So we avoid that
kind of alienating that goes on. Each speaker and attendee is
judged by their own individual thinking. We've had social
democrats that love FreedomFest and return every year because
they don't feel intimidated. We have over ten debates this year,
so people can side with one view or another. We encourage
diversity, but the conference is run by libertarians.
TAS:As a
corollary to that last question…Obviously the Bush years were
no great shakes for libertarian-minded Americans. Do you
worry that these freshly minted Tea Party free-marketeers may be
fair weather friends of liberty once Republicans regain
power?
MS:Absolutely. George Bush
was supposed to be a small government conservative but he turned
out to be a big-government Republican who favored the nanny
state, war, and deficit spending. It was a great tragedy. I have
my concerns about the tea partiers, especially those who are
against immigration, illegal or legal. One of our big debates
will be on immigration. Or on energy independence, another debate
topic.
TAS:Another
way of putting this, I suppose, would be to ask is "rugged
individualism" still in our DNA?
MS:We used to be rugged
individuals, but the big fear is that we are gradually becoming
benefit corrupted by Medicare, Social Security, and other
entitlements.
When Skouean listed why Las Vagas is America's most libertarian
city, he forgot to mention the whore houses.
Robert cloutier| 7.6.10 @ 9:49AM
Kenny, prostitution is illegal here in Clark County. To get your
legal fix, you'd have to drive over Blue Diamond Road to Pahrump
in Nye County.
Alan Brooks| 7.6.10 @ 10:41AM
No thanks;
let the libertopians get herpes.
Osamas Pajamas| 7.6.10 @ 4:24PM
Oh, well. Government itself is a whorehouse and it is highly
unlikely that the typical occupant of the government whorehouse
is any more honest than the typical street whore or whorehouse
gal.
Louis Jenkins| 7.6.10 @ 8:38AM
And what's more liberterian than having a whore and a beer?
Interesting thought though.
Alan Brooks| 7.6.10 @ 11:35AM
John O. McGinnis:
"... evolutionary biology may present a serious challenge to pure
libertarianism. This may surprise some people who confuse the
rise of Darwinism in the social sciences with the
nineteenth-century tenets of Social Darwinism. There is no
connection. Natural selection leads to the survival of the most
reproductively fit; however, it is a classic example of the
naturalistic fallacy to infer from this scientific fact the moral
conclusion that the goal of society is to aid the most
reproductively fit. Instead, by describing human nature more
precisely, evolutionary biology offers an improved map for the
political economy in our age. It shows what are the natural
tendencies of man and what are the possible ways human political
actions can both release and constrain these tendencies to
increase human happiness.
Moreover, the fragile and divided self that evolution describes
may not be entirely consonant with the more integrated self at
the heart of libertarianism. For instance, the younger self is so
weakly connected to the imagination of the older self (primarily
because most individuals did not live to old age in
hunter-gatherer societies) that most people cannot be expected to
save sufficiently for old age. A large group of aging and
propertyless individuals would be a source of social instability.
Therefore there may be justification for state intervention to
force individuals to save for their own retirement. Similarly,
the sexual self is so weakly linked to the long-term rational
calculating self that simply requiring individuals to live with
the consequences of their sexual acts may not be enough to
restrain socially destructive activity. Society may need to
create institutions to channel and restrain sexual activity."
PLS| 7.6.10 @ 6:19PM
It's OUR pursuit of happiness that's promised, NOT the actual
happiness! Our job is to pursue. NO government messing with me,
please.
Believer| 7.8.10 @ 10:34PM
Alan Brooks- Relating Evolution to Social Security or sexual
needs is just like a Darwinist, they have developed a nonsensical
argument into an art form. They now argue that a theory isnt
really a theory but a fact, they have convinced our kids that
Scientists that teach creation are not true scientists and should
be ignored. When someone actually studys the argument agaist
evolution the facts are overwhelming against, but because we are
born with free will the seed of deception is planted early in
life and has to be removed by openly studying the opposition. Im
sure your too smart to do that so just consider your comment like
a cake made of dog doo doo that has a nice frosting, great
looking but still dog doo doo.
JimH| 7.6.10 @ 9:26AM
Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere is having a
good time. - H.L. Mencken
Alan Brooks| 7.6.10 @ 11:33AM
What happens when YOUR teenage daughter is having too much of a
"good time"? then YOU become puritanical all of a sudden.
It all depends on whose ox is being gored-- no pun intended.
Osamas Pajamas| 7.6.10 @ 4:26PM
I've lived a long time and I have a list of things I've done that
I hope my kids never do. That's not hypocrisy. That's just
out-and-out fear for their physical safety and sanity.
Margie| 7.6.10 @ 12:07PM
Libertarianism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere isn't
having a good enough time. ~Me.
Petronius| 7.6.10 @ 9:31AM
What's Card doing there? I hear he's anti-gun.
Ryan| 7.6.10 @ 10:32AM
I always thought that the libertarians would have a better go if
they would get off the drug legalization course. Their fiscal
attitudes are attractive to many people, but the big turnoff for
local elections in particular has been that singular issue.
Petronius| 7.6.10 @ 11:28AM
R
That stoner who always gets airtime at the Libertarian Party
convention is a Democrat shill. The media ran that same damned
clip every 4 years for 2 decades before anybody called them on
it.
Siegfried X| 7.6.10 @ 1:17PM
Were all three Libertarians at the convention?
Osamas Pajamas| 7.6.10 @ 4:33PM
In their wildest and wettest dreams, the Democrats see the
conservatives and libertarians at one another's throats --- a
divided opposition to the OhBummer dictatorship. Why? Because the
toughest opponents of Barak Hushpuppy OhBummer and the OhBummer
Wrecking Crew are the conservatives and libertarians. The poor
"moderates" can't find their bums with both hands and a
flashlight. But put the conservatives and libertarians --- and
Objectivists --- together and in the same army, and turn up the
volume, and shazzam, OhBummer will have the fight of his life.
Can you dig it, lads-n-lasses? Or does fratricide sound like a
better idea to you?
WRJonas| 7.6.10 @ 5:28PM
I bought a hardcover book by Neil Boortz in a dollar store for
$1.00. I used to catch a little bit of his show occasionally but
I would gag at some remark of his and spin the dial. But he had
some entertainment value as a leading Libertarian so I began
reading his book and he immediately tells me that the war on
drugs is a waste of money and abortion has a useful place in
society. Then he emphasizes how important it is for Christians to
realize that evolution is really how we all got here and we are
saps for believing that Bible stuff. I tossed his book in the
corner and then I realized somebodys gotta say it ! Can I get my
money back?
Tom Beebe| 7.8.10 @ 1:19PM
I am in sympathy with almost, if not all, of the ideas here
except identification of problem number one. I submit it is not
government too big to succeed, but rather corruption. Perhaps
it's a chicken or egg issue, but I believe we will be more
successful in attacking corruption through campaign finance
reform and term limits. The former should be fashioned to limit
the influence of special interests, and that means YOURS !
Suppose only individuals could contribute, with anti-laundering
and full disclosure provisions. The strength of special interests
is derived from PACs, corporations, unions, and groups as diverse
as the Sierra Club and the NRA. Ban 'em all. Sure the big hitters
like Soros could give millions, but full disclosure would reveal
a candidate to be Soros' boy. We could at least judge the motive
for a candidacy. The latter is the best way to clean up those
already elected... who wants to spend money on a lame duck?
Robert776| 7.9.10 @ 1:23PM
I hope that someone will be able to unify the conservative
movement in the way the National Review did to organize for the
Goldwater and Reagan campaigns. It clearly cannot be left to the
likes of Rush and Glenn.
It is difficult to unify the libertarians, the social
conservatives, and the fundamentalist Christians. Do we want
small government or No Child Left Behind? Evaluate every
candidate by economic philosophy or position on abortion?
As a devout conservative and fan of Robert Bork, Milton Friedman,
William Buckley (most of the time), et al., I want a return to
solid conservatism.
Yet for the first time in 40 years, I voted for the Democrat in
the 2008 presidential election. It was hard to be critical of
McCain's economic policies because he didn't seem to have any, at
least nothing resembling a consistent plan. During the campaign,
I never heard a single discussion of Keynesianism vs. monetarism,
except maybe when Glenn Beck endorsed strong Keynesian approaches
(lower taxes, chiefly) as a conservative philosophy and
completely rejected monetarism (it's just the government printing
money). What colossal ignorance! Has he never taken even macro
101? Milton Friedman could have made mincemeat out of Beck in
less than 10 minutes, no, 2 minutes.
Obama at least had a plan that has worked in part. Most of my
investments and part of my pension fund have recovered
significantly, so I can hardly complain. I just have to hold my
nose over the judicial appointments, but Kagan can hardly be
worse than the Ford appointee, Justice Stevens.
Will I ever have a home again in the conservative movement?
CC| 7.10.10 @ 3:53AM
Once again great post. You seem to have a good understanding of
these themes.When I entering your blog,I felt this . Come on and
keep writting your blog will be more attractive. To Your Success!
Kenny| 7.6.10 @ 7:15AM
When Skouean listed why Las Vagas is America's most libertarian city, he forgot to mention the whore houses.
Robert cloutier| 7.6.10 @ 9:49AM
Kenny, prostitution is illegal here in Clark County. To get your legal fix, you'd have to drive over Blue Diamond Road to Pahrump in Nye County.
Alan Brooks| 7.6.10 @ 10:41AM
No thanks;
let the libertopians get herpes.
Osamas Pajamas| 7.6.10 @ 4:24PM
Oh, well. Government itself is a whorehouse and it is highly unlikely that the typical occupant of the government whorehouse is any more honest than the typical street whore or whorehouse gal.
Louis Jenkins| 7.6.10 @ 8:38AM
And what's more liberterian than having a whore and a beer? Interesting thought though.
Alan Brooks| 7.6.10 @ 11:35AM
John O. McGinnis:
"... evolutionary biology may present a serious challenge to pure libertarianism. This may surprise some people who confuse the rise of Darwinism in the social sciences with the nineteenth-century tenets of Social Darwinism. There is no connection. Natural selection leads to the survival of the most reproductively fit; however, it is a classic example of the naturalistic fallacy to infer from this scientific fact the moral conclusion that the goal of society is to aid the most reproductively fit. Instead, by describing human nature more precisely, evolutionary biology offers an improved map for the political economy in our age. It shows what are the natural tendencies of man and what are the possible ways human political actions can both release and constrain these tendencies to increase human happiness.
Moreover, the fragile and divided self that evolution describes may not be entirely consonant with the more integrated self at the heart of libertarianism. For instance, the younger self is so weakly connected to the imagination of the older self (primarily because most individuals did not live to old age in hunter-gatherer societies) that most people cannot be expected to save sufficiently for old age. A large group of aging and propertyless individuals would be a source of social instability. Therefore there may be justification for state intervention to force individuals to save for their own retirement. Similarly, the sexual self is so weakly linked to the long-term rational calculating self that simply requiring individuals to live with the consequences of their sexual acts may not be enough to restrain socially destructive activity. Society may need to create institutions to channel and restrain sexual activity."
PLS| 7.6.10 @ 6:19PM
It's OUR pursuit of happiness that's promised, NOT the actual happiness! Our job is to pursue. NO government messing with me, please.
Believer| 7.8.10 @ 10:34PM
Alan Brooks- Relating Evolution to Social Security or sexual needs is just like a Darwinist, they have developed a nonsensical argument into an art form. They now argue that a theory isnt really a theory but a fact, they have convinced our kids that Scientists that teach creation are not true scientists and should be ignored. When someone actually studys the argument agaist evolution the facts are overwhelming against, but because we are born with free will the seed of deception is planted early in life and has to be removed by openly studying the opposition. Im sure your too smart to do that so just consider your comment like a cake made of dog doo doo that has a nice frosting, great looking but still dog doo doo.
JimH| 7.6.10 @ 9:26AM
Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time. - H.L. Mencken
Alan Brooks| 7.6.10 @ 11:33AM
What happens when YOUR teenage daughter is having too much of a "good time"? then YOU become puritanical all of a sudden.
It all depends on whose ox is being gored-- no pun intended.
Osamas Pajamas| 7.6.10 @ 4:26PM
I've lived a long time and I have a list of things I've done that I hope my kids never do. That's not hypocrisy. That's just out-and-out fear for their physical safety and sanity.
Margie| 7.6.10 @ 12:07PM
Libertarianism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere isn't having a good enough time. ~Me.
Petronius| 7.6.10 @ 9:31AM
What's Card doing there? I hear he's anti-gun.
Ryan| 7.6.10 @ 10:32AM
I always thought that the libertarians would have a better go if they would get off the drug legalization course. Their fiscal attitudes are attractive to many people, but the big turnoff for local elections in particular has been that singular issue.
Petronius| 7.6.10 @ 11:28AM
R
That stoner who always gets airtime at the Libertarian Party convention is a Democrat shill. The media ran that same damned clip every 4 years for 2 decades before anybody called them on it.
Siegfried X| 7.6.10 @ 1:17PM
Were all three Libertarians at the convention?
Osamas Pajamas| 7.6.10 @ 4:33PM
In their wildest and wettest dreams, the Democrats see the conservatives and libertarians at one another's throats --- a divided opposition to the OhBummer dictatorship. Why? Because the toughest opponents of Barak Hushpuppy OhBummer and the OhBummer Wrecking Crew are the conservatives and libertarians. The poor "moderates" can't find their bums with both hands and a flashlight. But put the conservatives and libertarians --- and Objectivists --- together and in the same army, and turn up the volume, and shazzam, OhBummer will have the fight of his life. Can you dig it, lads-n-lasses? Or does fratricide sound like a better idea to you?
WRJonas| 7.6.10 @ 5:28PM
I bought a hardcover book by Neil Boortz in a dollar store for $1.00. I used to catch a little bit of his show occasionally but I would gag at some remark of his and spin the dial. But he had some entertainment value as a leading Libertarian so I began reading his book and he immediately tells me that the war on drugs is a waste of money and abortion has a useful place in society. Then he emphasizes how important it is for Christians to realize that evolution is really how we all got here and we are saps for believing that Bible stuff. I tossed his book in the corner and then I realized somebodys gotta say it ! Can I get my money back?
Tom Beebe| 7.8.10 @ 1:19PM
I am in sympathy with almost, if not all, of the ideas here except identification of problem number one. I submit it is not government too big to succeed, but rather corruption. Perhaps it's a chicken or egg issue, but I believe we will be more successful in attacking corruption through campaign finance reform and term limits. The former should be fashioned to limit the influence of special interests, and that means YOURS ! Suppose only individuals could contribute, with anti-laundering and full disclosure provisions. The strength of special interests is derived from PACs, corporations, unions, and groups as diverse as the Sierra Club and the NRA. Ban 'em all. Sure the big hitters like Soros could give millions, but full disclosure would reveal a candidate to be Soros' boy. We could at least judge the motive for a candidacy. The latter is the best way to clean up those already elected... who wants to spend money on a lame duck?
Robert776| 7.9.10 @ 1:23PM
I hope that someone will be able to unify the conservative movement in the way the National Review did to organize for the Goldwater and Reagan campaigns. It clearly cannot be left to the likes of Rush and Glenn.
It is difficult to unify the libertarians, the social conservatives, and the fundamentalist Christians. Do we want small government or No Child Left Behind? Evaluate every candidate by economic philosophy or position on abortion?
As a devout conservative and fan of Robert Bork, Milton Friedman, William Buckley (most of the time), et al., I want a return to solid conservatism.
Yet for the first time in 40 years, I voted for the Democrat in the 2008 presidential election. It was hard to be critical of McCain's economic policies because he didn't seem to have any, at least nothing resembling a consistent plan. During the campaign, I never heard a single discussion of Keynesianism vs. monetarism, except maybe when Glenn Beck endorsed strong Keynesian approaches (lower taxes, chiefly) as a conservative philosophy and completely rejected monetarism (it's just the government printing money). What colossal ignorance! Has he never taken even macro 101? Milton Friedman could have made mincemeat out of Beck in less than 10 minutes, no, 2 minutes.
Obama at least had a plan that has worked in part. Most of my investments and part of my pension fund have recovered significantly, so I can hardly complain. I just have to hold my nose over the judicial appointments, but Kagan can hardly be worse than the Ford appointee, Justice Stevens.
Will I ever have a home again in the conservative movement?
CC| 7.10.10 @ 3:53AM
Once again great post. You seem to have a good understanding of these themes.When I entering your blog,I felt this . Come on and keep writting your blog will be more attractive. To Your Success!