Inevitably coming soon: The execution of an Israeli war
plan.
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The air force commander spoke first. "We've been practicing that
for two months, and we will continue practicing until the day
comes. It all hinges on the airborne command and control and the
tanker aircraft. We will make it work. But after the first attack,
we may have to fight our way home. And the second attack,
well..."
"Yes," said Yadlin. "It will be the beginning of a very long day
which none of us may survive."
16 March 2011
Tel Aviv
0745 Hours
"It's almost a certainty," Amos Yadlin told the War Cabinet. "We
have intercepted the same kind of traffic, at about the same
volume, as we have in the previous Great Prophet exercises. They
usually pick a date of religious or military significance to them
or us. One Great Prophet exercise began on Yom Kippur. Last year's
began on the anniversary of the IRGC's founding. And tomorrow is
one of the dates the Shia consider most significant: the birthday
of Imam Ali, cousin and son-in-law of Mohammed."
"So we go at first light tomorrow?" asked Netanyahu.
"That is my recommendation, Prime Minister."
16 March
Iran
2030 Hours
It would be another long night for the IRGC commanders, their
missile crews, and scientists. The welcoming receptions for
government dignitaries were almost over, and the VIPs would soon
retire, except for the inevitable few who were determined to watch
the entire exercise from the IRGC temporary headquarters set up
near the largest launch site.
Defense Minister Gen. Ahmad Vahidi, President Ahmadinejad, and a
few others would insist on watching as they completed the setup of
three long-range Sajjil-2 missiles and six Shahab-3s, together
their crown jewels. The launch sites -- spread out in five
locations across Iran -- would also fire short-range missiles,
including three dozen "FROGs" -- free rocket over ground --
short-range, unguided missiles.
Crews would be busy through the night, loading and deploying
mobile missile launchers at three other sites. All the IRGC
commanders would be spread out among the regional command centers,
running other parts of the exercise. The big naval base near
Bushehr was a beehive of activity, crews fueling and arming dozens
of small, fast patrol craft to demonstrate "swarm" attack tactics
designed to defeat big naval combatant ships such as the U.S.
DDG-51 destroyers. At Shiraz, the main air force base, aircraft
including the newly purchased Russian Su-30 Flankers were being
fueled and armed with 500-pound bombs for their flights to targets
in the Iranian desert.
16 March
Southern Persian Gulf
0355-0450 Hours
Aboard the four Israeli submarines, activity mirrored the
Iranians'. Each of the German-built Dolphin-class subs were loaded
to capacity with Popeye cruise missiles, each capable of reaching
targets about 930 miles away. They would be fired quickly, and each
launcher would be reloaded and fired again as quickly as the crews
could manage. Missile crews were checking and rechecking the
navigation settings, jet engines, and everything else that could be
tested. They couldn't afford a single failure.
The first salvo, aimed at the IRGC headquarters near Tehran and
the four known Iranian air bases -- including Shiraz -- from which
defenses against the later air attack could be mounted, were
launched at 0410. They would hit their targets at 0630, about 15
minutes after sunrise. The second round, aimed at the 13 IRGC
regional command centers and the naval base near Bushehr, were
launched an hour later.
The boats submerged to reload again and await further
orders.
17 March
Over northern border of Syria and southern Iraq
0445 Hours
Jed Babbin served as a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush. He is the author of several bestselling books including Inside the Asylum and In the Words of Our Enemies.
Scary stuff. It sounds like Mr. Babbin expects Israel to commit
suicide (figureatively and literally) while taking out the
Iranian forces for the rest of the world. No nation should have
to shoulder a burden like his alone.
Ret. Marine| 6.30.10 @ 7:51AM
It speaks of a " do it or die" methode. They know they must do
it, with or without the US involvement or they are to die at the
hands of evilness. But as any good person of the Book knows, this
will end real badly for the prophets of satan, i.e., muslims and
their false god allah.
ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 12:50PM
Was in Israel a little over a year ago. We were allowed the
priviledge of a tour of Masada. The Israeli guide told us the
story with great passion and detail. They would have preferred to
kill each and and leave one man to commit suicide than to give up
there homes, and families to Rome. They will never lay it down,
or give it up. It is with the memory of those who so bravely held
off Rome for 3 years, and then died that the stand with the "do
it or die" ideal.
I pray for God's blessing on the people of Israel.
["Prayer is not conquering God's resistance; it is taking His
will by the hand!" ] God blesses those who bless the people of
Israel, and curses those who curses them. Period....
believer| 6.30.10 @ 2:57PM
Ret. Marine- Even though Believers know that God will stop the
distruction of Israel just in time,
it still scares me to death that America will take sides against
Israel and pay the ultimate price.
Thanks for your comment.
Quartermaster| 6.30.10 @ 8:04PM
God will not just stop the destruction of Israel, he will destroy
those who attack Israel.
Babbin's speculation isn't bad, but it does not match Ezekial
chapters 38 and 39. The attackers will come to Israel, and die on
the mountains of Israel. Only 1 in 6 will go home. It may start
as in Babbin's article above, but that's not how it will end.
I still believe in Ezekial:38@39 whole heartedly. Then the Jews
will believe, but I'm like you our country will turn its back on
Israel and I still think our Patriots will go ape over this. May
God have mercy on our souls!
Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 8:49PM
"No nation should have to shoulder a burden like his alone."
No, but certain conservatives-- Pat Buchanan comes to mind-- wont
shed a tear if Israel is annihilated.
Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 10:20PM
When someone defends the Holocaust, you can understand it, it was
long ago, even if you don't ACCEPT it. But now some of them want
another Holocaust? All the death, rape, and mutilation (torture
as well) of WWII wasn't enough?
Some people are very hard to please.
Mark James| 7.1.10 @ 1:26AM
But in the meantime, Israel will be all but destroyed and the
rest of us will be in ruins. His coming will end man's rebellion
once and for all time and eternity.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:32PM
Vincent, If you think for a moment that the Israelis are
commiting suicide, I would recommend that you revisit the events
of the ARAB/ISRAELI CONFLICT from it's inception to the current
time. The 1967 war had the ARABS with numerical superiority in
EVERYTHING except GUTS and DETERMINATION. Plus two things more,
The ISRAELIS were BETTER TRAINED and, they had GOD on their
side.
So, please believe me when I say this, the IRANIANS WILL FAIL TO
DESTROY ISRAEL. Why you might ask ? ... Well, it's simple,
really. Number 1. The ARABS have been proven to be cowards when
it comes down to placing your backs against a wall and fighting
from it. The Israelis are EXPERTS at doing this. Number 2. The
ARABS are BULLIES in effect due mostly to their upbringing and
the Quoran's teachings. They aren't expecting any real opposition
and, when they get smacked in the face with it, their instinct is
to RUN just like all bullies. Number 3.
The IRANIANS are NOT as well trained as the ISRAELIS, period.
Number 4. THE ARABS DO NOT HAVE GOD ON THEIR SIDE. ------ JT ----
Appleby| 6.30.10 @ 7:34AM
Perhaps Israel still believes that it is better to die on their
feet than live on their knees.
Would that more still felt that way.
Tom in Michigan| 6.30.10 @ 1:35PM
Unfortunately for Israel those are not their two choices. If they
don't prevail, the IDF heroes will die on their feet. If they
don't prevail, the Israeli citizenry will also die on their feet.
There is no living on their knees as their enemies are butchering
barbarians who will not stop until they have completed the Second
Holocaust.
For the second time in my life (the first time was when the
Democrats betrayed our Vietnam veterans and dead and our
Vietnames allies into the hands of the Communists), I am sickly
ashamed of my country. I loathe this government.
If Israeli falls and we do nothing to stop it; this nation will
suffer a moral collapse from which it will never recover.
May God bless the state of Israel and damn the Islamists around
the world.
mark James| 7.1.10 @ 1:29AM
No, they will continue to "live on their knees" but they will
kneel only before I AM.
codin andrei| 7.1.10 @ 9:21AM
Live Free or Die! ... where did we hear that before? The Israelis
will fight against all odds, same as in the uprising in the
Warsaw ghetto. May the Lord bless them!!!
Melvin| 6.30.10 @ 7:55AM
The Jews have already died on their knees. The vowed, "Never
Again."
The only thing that is left for them is to die on their feet, and
to take as many Iranians as possible with them.
coal carrier| 6.30.10 @ 8:44AM
Back in the early 1970’s my older brother and I were having a
discussion about world events. He brought up the subject of
Israel and their continuous struggle with their neighbors. He
said that one day they would have to stand alone. I said, stand
alone? What about the United States? We are their friend and
ally. He said the day would come when the United States would be
powerless. We will, at this time, be nothing but another 3rd
world country. Our military will be weak and our political class
will not want to get involved. I said to him “What the hell have
you been drinking?” He said, ok, we’ll see. I said, if this
happens I’ll buy you a steak dinner. He said, at that time you
probably will not have the money to buy a steak dinner.
With all that has transpired since Obama has been in office and
with his connection to the Muslim world, it certainly looks like
Israel will have to stand alone. And, I’m not sure that I’ll have
the money to buy that steak.
Believer| 6.30.10 @ 3:07PM
Coal Carrier-In the Bible I think its in Hezikiah the Lord
Prophisied that in the last days "all nations" would come against
Jerusalem to battle.
My personal opinion is America will be too Bankrupt to help
Israels enemys, but the book
says All Nations so I guess that means America.
luxuryoption| 6.30.10 @ 6:30PM
The book of the bible you refer to is Ezekiel 38-39.
FakeEagle| 6.30.10 @ 8:49AM
"They are loved on account of the patriarchs. God's gifts and his
calling are irrevocable."
Margie| 6.30.10 @ 12:25PM
~Romans 11:29.
Amen.
Robert Vail| 6.30.10 @ 8:50AM
What a scenario! How sad that the U.S. has chosen to ignore its
friend Israel in such a time of need. The Israel will fight to
the last man, woman and child. They have been pushed against the
wall and have no choice but to strike the Iranians and inflict as
much damage as possible. Otherwise, the ayatollahs have already
stated that they will "wipe Israel from the face of the earth".
Faced with such a threat, who can blame Israel for defending
herself against annihilation?
Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 11:23PM
But doesn't the Word say Armaggeddon is to come with or without
any particular politician?
However if God says "vote for Palin in '12 to save yourselves",
then we'll know.
If God says "get out your checkbook and make a tax deductible
donation to the RNC", then we shall knoweth for sureth!
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:38PM
WELL SAID ROBERT ! PLEASE REFER TO MY COMMENT TO THE FIRST
WRITER.
---------- Your UNCLE
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:40PM
Well said ROBERT, your uncle T.
FLAgirl| 6.30.10 @ 8:59AM
Elections do have consequences...I cannot imagine a McCain/Palin
White House letting Israel go it alone.
Obama was known to be friends with Rashid Khalidi and other
Palestinian supporters prior to his election, and yet how many
Jewish Americans voted for him? The man who sat in Rev. Wright's
"church" for 20 years is obviously not a supporter of Israel, and
is not and probably will not stand up to Iran. After all, it may
interfere with his golf schedule.
RacerJim| 6.30.10 @ 11:24AM
Correct you are FLAgirl.
How every one of my long-time Jewish friends can still support
Obama is beyond my comprehension.
Doug| 6.30.10 @ 11:53AM
Because they are Liberals. All Liberals are Liberals first,
anything else a distant second, because Liberalism is a godless
religion. Your long-time Jewish friends will always take the side
of Liberal leaders over the American people, Israel, God, and any
other entity that their own Messiah opposes.
Quartermaster| 7.1.10 @ 8:11PM
Liberal "Jews" aren't Jews. Hebrews, yes, but certainly not Jews.
Actually, Judaism is not possible these days. Without the Temple
or Tabernacle it is impossible to practice Judaism as the
sacrificial system is not possible. The term "Jew" means a
practitioner of the religion of Judah. that religion died when
the temple was burned in AD 70 by Roman troops.
Without a doubt obama is a Muslim. He most certainly will not go
against any Muslim country.
We have to get him out of office immediatly if not sooner.
Yesterday would not be soon enough.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:46PM
Yes, guys, Yes, you are quite correct and, since BARAK INSANE
OBAMA refused to reveal where the vast bulk of the contributions
to his campaign came from, it's my guess that they came from ARAB
nations.
FURTHER, I AM CALLING FOR THE IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT of THIS
PRESIDENT and, the COMPLETE REMOVAL OF ALL OF HIS REGIME AND THE
OVERTURNING OF EVERY PIECE OF LEGISLATION HE AND HIS REGIME HAVE
FORCED THROUGH CONGRESS !! ---- JT ----
ben roesch| 7.1.10 @ 6:38PM
how to do this
David| 6.30.10 @ 9:32AM
Don't forget that Israel may have a few nuclear weapons. If they
go under, they will probably use them where they will do the most
good - striking at the true heart of Israel's and the Jews'
enemy, raining fire from the heavens on them. It's a shame that
our elected officials (cept I didn't vote for him) are so
disgustingly servile to those who call us "enemy".
Tony Rome| 6.30.10 @ 10:42AM
Google Dr. Richard Rubinstein and one will discover why under the
Obama administration, Israel will have to go it alone. Obama is a
anti-Semitic, no question about it. According to Rubinstein,
Obama believes Israel was never entitled to their land.
Doctor Right| 6.30.10 @ 10:42AM
I don't see Obama, et al, supporting this type of action by
Israel...at least, not openly.
However, nor do I see them able to utterly abandon Israel, and
sponsor a UN Resolution condemning such an attack.
Obama is a neophyte, in many ways, but he has many political
operatives around him who know full well the political wrath that
the American Jewish community would heap upon the Democrat's
heads, especially with the Republicans (justifiably) telling them
that Obama is selling-out Israel.
Still...It's shameful that we would let our best ally shoulder
the burden of destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities AND suffer
all the consequences.
Shameful...And cowardly. And very un-American.
Grandpa| 6.30.10 @ 12:13PM
I don't think the question is whether Obama will support Israel
during an attack on Iran. Of course he won't. The question is
whether he will order our military to shoot down Israeli
airplanes, or just eliminate their element of surprise by tipping
off the Iranians of the coming armada.
tjsker| 6.30.10 @ 11:04AM
The ending is why I think Israel will wait until our next
presidential election in hopes of getting someone other than
Obama.
If they move on the story's timeline, it will be ugly for
everyone including the U.S. I can see U.S. mercy ships and planes
evacuating Israeli refugees from their homeland under attack by
all of its adjacent countries. And then flash forward years later
where the U.S. is involved in a long drawn out war to take Israel
back from its new inhabitants.
Charles Martel| 6.30.10 @ 3:17PM
(1) It is becoming increasingly clear that the Israelis do not
have the additional two years that you envision.
(2) No sovereign nation would overtly attack any U.S.-flag vessel
engaged in an evacuation. None of them would risk war with the
United States, even with a president as weak and feckless as
Obama. Such "mercy ships", though, would be subject to ballistic
missiles fired at Israeli ports by the terrorist organizations in
Gaza and Lebanon: they know that they have nothing to fear from
their brother Obama.
(3) There would be no war to take Israel back. Once the Arabs are
in possession, all countries, including ours -- even if we
subsequently elected an actual Christian American -- would wash
their hands of the region. Most, especially the emasculated
Europeans, would breathe a sigh of relief.
The God-damned Arabs will murder the captured and wounded,
military and civilian alike, every man, woman, and child; and the
hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Jewish dead would be
burned in the streets or buried en masse in pits while the Arabs
dance.
May God curse every hand that cast a ballot for Barack Hussein
Obama.
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Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 11:17PM
Um, well I am planning to vote for Obama. But if Armaggeddon
comes before Nov 2012, you wont have to curse me or the rest of
them galoots.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:03PM
Alan, ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO WIN IS FOR YOU TO DO
NOTHING.
If you believe in the CONSTITUTION and those RIGHTS it grants to
YOU, then please take this to heart.
1. OBAMA before he came to ANY OFFFICE said that he was AGAINST
THE PRIVATE OWNERSHIP OF FIREARMS BY U.S. CITIZENS.
2. OBAMA WROTE IN A SPEECH THAT HE WAS IN FAVOR OF REMOVING OUR
RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH.
3. HE HAS SAID HE WANTS TO RULE. HE MEANS OUTRIGHT AS THE FIRST
KING OF THE U.S.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND, THIS MAN IS AN AVOWED COMMUNIST, LIBERAL,
SOCIALIST AND, PROGRESSIVE. THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT HIM,
THEREFORE, WHY VOTE FOR HIM ??
AFTER ALL, the DAMNED DEMO(N)CRATS HAVE AS THEIR MASCOT( LOGO ) A
JACKASS. SO, MY QUESTION HERE IS THIS ... ARE THEY SAYING THEY'RE
JACKASSES or, ARE THEY SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE JACKASSES OUT
OF ALL OF US ??!!! ---- JT --
P.S. I guess all of us know what you are !!
Ole Johansen| 7.6.10 @ 12:55PM
Why this awful shouting?
Mike| 7.1.10 @ 4:17PM
You are certifiably nuts. So consumed with hatred for the "God
Damned Arabs" that you probably can't sleep at nights.
Take your medication. Get anger management counseling and quit
reading trash from a chickenhawk neocan asshole who can't write
good fiction even in the unusual case where he is actually trying
to write fiction.
Sorry boys - Israel will not attack Iran, nor will the USA.
Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 5:36PM
Thanks for your "concern", but I'm fine. I'm worried about you
though, about how you can't seem to identify the enemy. Remember
how they were dancing in the streets on 9/11? Apparently not.
If I were losing sleep at night, it would be because of my fellow
Americans who are so comfortable with the idea of the "Islamic
Republic", the most prolific sponsor of terrorism in this world,
in possession of nuclear weapons that they are unwilling to do
anything to forestall it.
Re: "No sovereign nation would overtly attack any U.S.-flagged
vessel"
The Jews would.
They did.
They tried to sink the USS Liberty and to kill the entire crew.
Fortunately they only succeeded in murdering 32 Americans.
Of course The Jew-State is not exactly sovereign since it exists
as a parasite of US taxpayers.
martin j smith| 6.30.10 @ 11:08AM
In the world we know, there is a great deal of theatre and there
is a great deal of reality. Problem is separating out the two.
BHO in particular and his company are hard to get to the truth.
Especially what is actually communicated between BHO et al and th
Israeli government. Taking the BHO admin line at face
value--meaning a guy with a chip on his shoulder about Israel ,
this policy of could shouldering Israel could lead into a
disastrous world war. So for example, if we "play the game opf
"what if..." I could i8magine the following if Israel attacks
iran and the US joined a UN embargo against Israe:
From Benjamin Netanyahu;
Dear Barak:
What you and the UN has done is in our view a declaration of war
on the State of Israel. Therefore, let me caution you and other
states
our finger is on the trigger--we have nothing to lose. So, you
can bet your friends will feel the consequences at any given
moment as you will as well. We caution you to stand down . This
is your final warning..
bn
Howard| 6.30.10 @ 11:14AM
Israel is is a "lose lose" situation. If they do nothing, Iran
will eventually develop an A bomb or two. If they attack before
hand, they will be subject to condemnation and attacks from Iran
and its proxies. The condemnation and proxy attacks are
survivable, Iran dropping nukes is not. And by the way, Obama,
who says Iran will not try to use them on the US?
Tom in Michigan| 6.30.10 @ 1:39PM
Of course Iran will use nuclear weapons against the US; at the
first opportunity.
In their perverted view, Israel is merely "the little Satan." We
are "the Great Satan" and their ultimate target.
The Obamaviks are like collaborationists throughout history,
thinking they can make an accomodation with an implacable enemy
when, in reality their malfeasance only delays the inevitable.
DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 2:35PM
Using a nuclear weapons is not necessarily equivalent to lighting
one off. The Iranian nuke, once recognized, has its uses. One of
them will be for the Israelis to strike before Obama gets scared
off entirely. One could argue that the prospect of a nuke has
changed Obama. No way to counter such an argument. Israel will be
'all in' if the conventional strike is met with any kind of WMD.
And I hope that any government in the middle east is feeling a
little uncomfortable. I can see collateral damage over several
weeks all over the globe if Israel does not prevail. It will all
be pre-arranged.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:19PM
Dave, Traditionally ALL arab nations have mouthed their support
for other ARAB nations that were shaking their swords in the air
while most have refused to get involved in the conflict.
Take IRAQ for example, MANY of the other ARAB nations voiced
their approval while quietly hoping that Saddam Hussein was
removed and, they were GLAD when he was removed.
Now, let's take a really GOOD look at IRAN. The IRANIANS ARE
PERSIANS and, HATED just as much by the ARABS as is ISRAEL. The
ARAB nations WILL NOT back IRAN, they WILL just voice their
approval and, nothing more. IF IRAN AND ISRAEL WERE TO UTTERLY
DESTROY EACH OTHER, the ARABS would be quite pleased.
The real fear for the ARAB middle eastern nations is this ... IF
IRAN drops a nuke on ISRAEL, then the radiation would also
destroy their citizens as well and, this would depend upon which
way the wind blew. It could be EGYPT and ALL of the ARAB NATIONS
IN AFFRICA or, it could be ALL of the ARABIAN PENINSULA nations.
They know this and, so, I wouldn't be surprised IF some if not
all of those nations sided with ISRAEL in this instance. ------
JT ------
Christopher Holland| 6.30.10 @ 9:33PM
America is in a 'lose lose' position as well. If America does
nothing, it loses. If Israel attacks alone, America gets the
blame anyway and Israel's attack will be less effective for its
isolation. If America's policy is to fight to the last Jew then
it will get no thanks from anybody - it is a gutless,
disgracefull and dishonourable policy - but exactly what will
probably happen anyway.
dcd| 7.1.10 @ 3:08AM
and if the US stands with Israel the middle east will stop the
flow of oil and cash. Israelies are really nice folks, but what's
one little country compared to my SUV. Priorities people.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:29PM
Sir, Come on, I'm sure you by now realise trhat the ARAB OIL
PRODUCING nations realise what the consequences of an OIL EMBARGO
by them would mean. Don't you ... ? It would mean OBAMA WILL BE
FORCED TO DEVELOP THE OIL FIELDS WE HAVE AND FURTHER, TO USE
THOSE WE ALREADY HAVE DEVELOPED AS WELL.
The OIL FIELD in EASTERN MONTANA and WESTERN NORTH DAKOTA HOLDS
MORE OIL THAN WHAT ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS HAVE
COMBINED plus, WE ALSO HAVE THE ANWR WHICH IS HUGE and, ALL OF
OUR COASTAL RESERVES plus, we have ONE HALF OF THE WORLD'S OIL
SHALE and, A HUGE AMOUNT OF COAL.
No, sir, the ARABS might be many things but, they're NOT STUPID.
They DO NOT WANT THE U.S. GOING INDEPENDENT and, becoming their
CHIEF COMPETITOR !! --- JT ---
Sean| 7.5.10 @ 8:39PM
Interesting deduction, but I would argue that would NOT come to
pass: Obama and his crowd are too ideologically opposed to the
development of our sovereign oil fields. I would instead see an
accelerated push for some type of hair-brained utopian dream
scape - alternative fuel initiative - depending on how this whole
cap -and -tax thing plays out - but of course that is a complete
non starter as far as actually being viable at this point - if
ever. I think that the resulting oil embargo will create the most
intense economic despair this country has ever seen, precisely
because we have not taken steps to open ANWR or the shale fields
that you have mentioned.
That's assuming this all happens before elections of 2012. God
truly help us if this man wins a second term.....
Louis Jenkins| 6.30.10 @ 11:23AM
A shocking scenario, but true. I hope it does not come to this,
however, it is very possible. The US Military knows what Israel
is up against. It may be one time they do not listen to the
Pretender n Chief and aide Israel. At which point the gig is on
for all of us. We'll have to see.
DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 2:40PM
I think McChrystal would not relay such an order (to shoot down
Israeli planes or sink Israeli subs.) I don't think Petraeus, or
a Norman S. or any other command general worth a lick would dare
shoot an Israeli plane down (not if he wants to keep his family
out of a witness protection - like program.) There could be a
court-martial or two, but I think it would pass. The public would
weigh in, and BHO would not prevail against the insubordinate.
Charles Martel| 6.30.10 @ 3:25PM
You envision Beck, Witzleben, and Rommel. You should instead
expect Keitel, Jodl, and Fromm.
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DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 3:40PM
If you mean to distinguish those who'd serve the Fatherland from
those who serve the Fuhrer, then you'd be all over it. I may hope
against reason, may I not?
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:35PM
CHARLEMAGNE, It was THOMAS JEFFERSON who said the WHEN THE LAW OF
THE LAND BECOMES UNJUST, IT IS THE OBLIGATION OF EVERY CITIZEN TO
OPPOSE IT. ------------------------------ JT
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Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 5:51PM
It's Charles Martel, not Charlemagne (he was "my" grandson), but
that's beside the point.
You might want to look up and read about the Valkyrie conspiracy.
The first three names were participants; the latter three were
the toadies who backed the Leader.
The Republic is beset by domestic enemies as it has been at no
other time because those enemies now comprise the government
itself. The reason I cited those officers was to suggest that too
many of ours, at the moment of crisis, will prove to be time
servers more concerned with their careers than their oaths.
+++
Doug| 6.30.10 @ 11:45AM
Obama's attitude toward Israel is a disgrace to our nation. I
hope that the Israeli people realize that the American people are
with them, despite the hatred and cowardice of our co-called
"leaders."
God Bless Israel!
Armchair General| 6.30.10 @ 12:41PM
So, it's come to this. This is how the civilized world ends.
Obama wins, we die.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 12:45PM
Jed,
I read your column very early this morning. I chose to let the
ideas settle in my mind a while before commenting.
I think your time-line is a little off, but the scenario is too
probable. Honestly, I believe our "regime" would almost... almost
...welcome an all out war between Israel and her avowed
murderors.
I believe mr obama would strain his neck holding his chin high
enough to stay "above the fray".
In my opinion, obama will be rendered totally irrelevant if that
war begins in earnest....both internationally .....and
politically here at home.
His so-called "international backstop" (Biden), is merely a sad
joke.
Jed, you do realize that you have set the stage in your
scenario.......for Armegeddon?
You fools here may scroll down now.
(Fool: def. "a man who says in his heart..."there is no God".
Psalms 14:1)
Well, Jed I am not on the program committee. I surely don't know
if this is the run-up to Armegeddon. I am on the welcoming
committee.
("Even so, Lord, come quickly"!)
As you know, some Christians read that we Christians, saved by
Grace, will meet Jesus in the air before all of that yucky stuff
happens.
Some Christians feel that perhaps we might have to endure the
whole mess...with faith and courage.
I'm sure I don't know, though I have spent some serious time over
40 years reading the several "eschatologies" in the Bible. (that
means "the last days" folks).
I do wonder... with my sorry ass failures over a life time, if I
am destined to go through the whole mess.
Whatever...I stand with Israel!!!!!
You know, Jed, I wonder seriously if "Rush" is the Isaiah of our
day. Our prophet if you will, in the sense that Old Testament
prophets were primarily "FORTH-TELLERS" rather than
"fore-tellers".
I simply stand in awe of his ability to articulate the issues of
good versus evil.... and "stupid versus wise".
I can see a day when some our own troops in the middle
east...break ranks...and join Israel's efforts.
God bless 'em.
I can see a day when orders to them from obama are "garbled".
Thank you again, sir, for gazing with me into the future.
Stephanie| 6.30.10 @ 1:03PM
God bless you Ken. I'm with you.
Maddox| 6.30.10 @ 2:07PM
Many of us feel the passion for our country that is expressed so
well by Rush and you, Ken.
We may lack the right words but we stand with Israel and will the
fight to keep The United States free. November is crucial.
May GOD, help us all.
Margie| 6.30.10 @ 3:55PM
I fully agree. Thank God for Rush and Ken and all the good guys.
ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 2:32PM
I'm with you too Ken. God bless us all!
I happen to be one of those Christians who believes we will meet
Jesus in the air...and if you belong to Him (saved by grace) you
won't be here to for the yucky stuff. Because...first, there is
now no condenation to those who are in Christ Jesus Rom 8:1 and
lastly, the church is mentioned over and over in Rev. chpts 1-4.
No more mention of the church after chpt 4. , and hell doesn't
break loose until after chpt 4. However, like you, no matter
where I am when those dreadful days begin, I know that Jesus
Christ is on my side and I will not be ashamed of Him....
AND GOD BLESS ISRAEL!
Believer| 6.30.10 @ 3:46PM
Shortnsweet-Just wanted to comment on your
views on the rapture, The modern Church didnt
even preach on the rapture until 1830 when a women in Ireland
decided to enlighten the Church. Before that time it was assumed
that Christians would have to give their lives like the
millions did in the first couple century's. The real
rapture is in the book of Matthew chapter 13 vs. 28 thru 30. Stop
listening to foolish men and prepare for hard times.
ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 4:10PM
Note taken...
Like is said before, no matter where I am when those dreadful
times arrive, I know that Christ Jesus is on my side.
God Bless You Sir!
I think theway obama has handled the oil spill is a good
indication how he will handle any crisis and especially what is
being talked about here.
God bless Israel
Israel will surely go down swinging, if they are to go down at
all. I'm hoping that, should war break out, the Jews here in this
country will ensure that Obama doesn't sit & just let it
happen. As a Jew myself, the self destructive love & willfull
ignorance displayed by my liberal fellow Jews in relation to all
things Obama & liberal is galling to no end. This man HATES
us, folks. Be we Jews or Christians. The signs are all there for
those who have eyes & ears.
An interesting article from today's American Thinker on why
Israel faces a tough road. A must read:
While they're at it the Israelis should nuke Teheran, Mecca and
the rest of the mohammedan dog's and pig's cities. Obama won't do
a thing, he's not even an American, and he promised to cover
mohammedans' backs while he was on his Steppinfetchit tour of
barbaric mohammedan countries.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 2:44PM
Navy Brat... read it already. but thanks.
Big Elk,
There is no question but that they will nuke...evil.... even if
it means another "Masada"......and even if it means Washington
DC.
Most serious geo-political folks believe Israel has some two
hundred nukes.
Folks, there ain't enough muslim enemies to absorb all those
nukes in the mid-east.
Twenty nukes would end the muslim "national" enemies of
Israel.
Hmmmmmmm.
DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 3:44PM
Saddam knew what value the Quaker Gun was to deterring aggressive
action. Too bad for him he went up against someone who called the
bluff. Now, Saddam can't blame the game in which he participated,
and now neither can the Teheran or Washington regimes if Israel
decides to call the bluff.
Melvin| 6.30.10 @ 3:50PM
It would be quite the parking lot wouldn't it?
DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 5:37PM
Israel took a desert and made something of it. A parking lot
would be less a challenge.
Chairman Nobombo| 6.30.10 @ 3:53PM
For more than 200 years the Lord has blessed America, but now we
have this Obami in the White House, the Lord is telling us
something.
Daniel| 6.30.10 @ 4:21PM
Armageddon is still in the distant future. It will NOT be simply
between Israel and Iran. Just, like the 6 day war, a lot of
people thought it was all over for Israel. Didn't happen. This
particular war between Israel and Iran has the blessings of a
number of other Arab States for Israel to win. After all, the
Iranians are not Arab, they are Persians. The Arabs fear Iran,
that if they succeed against Israel, their Arab States would be
next to come under the heel of Iran. The Royal Family of Saudi
Arabia, in no way, wants Iran to succeed against Israel and
neither does Europe or the US. No, the time for Armageddon is not
yet arrived. God bless Israel!
The plan is called Tishah B’Av. Tishah B’Av is a combined air and
sea-based attack upon the Islamic Republic of Iran. The date for
the attack is set for the Tishah B’Av holiday - the date that
marks the holiday marking the destruction of the First Temple of
Jerusalem and Second Temple of Jerusalem by the Roman Empire.
The date is July 19th of THIS year.
The first phase is to use IAF aircraft to destroy all Iranian Air
Force planes and gain air superiority over all Iranian airspace
for a period of 24 to 36 hours. During this time, it will leak
out that the Iranians will have to submit to Israeli inspections
or face nuclear annihilation.
The Israelis will intentionally limit the timetable because they
know they cannot hold open the air corridor for an extended
period and they know Iran's leaders will reject all offers of
mediation. They know they will have to execute the second
phase.
The second phase of the plan is to use six (6) low-yield,
air-burst 125 kiloton tactical nuclear weapons (lob-tossed bombs)
to destroy the main population centers around the key nuclear
facilities and destroy the city center of Tehran. This will be
followed by intensive negotiations to prevent a ground war from
resulting in the occupation of Iran. The political dynamic is to
demonstrate that millions will die if the nuclear program goes
forward and anyone who attacks Israel (think Syria) will be
destroyed with low-yield tactical nuclear weapons.
Like Masada, the plan is desperate, but desperate times call for
bold plans.
You heard it here first. 36 hour attack plan followed by a
nuclear strike. There are no choices in this matter. America
sealed the fate of Iran by turning its back on Israel.
Navig8r| 6.30.10 @ 4:57PM
The story left out the special forces on the ground. I suspect
they will do more than call in air strikes. You will see some
coordinated assasinations and raids from the ground.
I fear that when backed against the wall with not even the U.S.
at their backs, the Israelis would be forced to use their nukes.
I guess we could still drill for oil thru glass, but that would
make some nasty fallout.
Paulie4| 6.30.10 @ 5:07PM
Obama and gang seem unable to distinguish between good and evil
and this is a profound weakness. Why Jews in the U.S. support the
Democrats is a mystery to me. Israel’s best friend these days are
conservative Republicans.
... Israel may choose to eliminate Western support for Muslim
states by removing the Oil Card ---
Destroying the Middle East oil wells with dirty nukes will make
them too radioactive to work for thousands of years.
Minimal loss of life, outside oil field workers. ... .... No
benefit to support the former oil producers who are out of
business.
Rick Z| 6.30.10 @ 7:14PM
... Israel may choose to eliminate Western support for Muslim
states by removing the Oil Card ---
Destroying the Middle East oil wells with dirty nukes will make
them too radioactive to work for thousands of years.
Minimal loss of life, outside oil field workers. ... .... No
benefit to support the former oil producers who are out of
business.
Gerald Stephens| 6.30.10 @ 8:01PM
Crystal Ball...
Crystal balls are difficult to come by. I got mine in a pawn shop
but it did come with a partial warranty printed in Yiddish.
Last I looked it appeared as though America awakened sometime
prior to November 2010, rubbed the sleep from her eyes, and
eradicated every progressive found trolling the polling stations.
I also saw some lop eared fool being not so gently escorted from
a playground.
There was also dramatic evidence like our ‘O say, does that
star-spangled banner yet wave…’, of a battle flag showing a big
blue star on a white field flying over a parking lot of all
places.
Then too there were banners, oh so many fluttering banners,
written in some old world language, something like, E Pluribus
Unum.
The crystal then blazed with brilliant light and golden
lettering, …If Israel is forced to strike in self defense the
victory will be so great as to humble all deniers.
So sayeth Christ, Abraham, and all the rest of the good guys.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 8:02PM
Rick Z,
Sadly, nukes are not magical. Sand does not retain radioactivity
very well. Move the new well over a half a mile and you are back
to the oil. (directional drilling)....in six months.
Air-bursts produce no radioactivity, and ground bursts don't give
you much bang, (footprint), on the ground.
Picture a tennis ball. Sitting on a flat surface, a very tiny
portion of the tennis ball touches the ground. (small
foot-print).
Now,
cut the tennis ball in half and set the hollow side on the flat
surface. (huge comparative footprint). That is the footprint of
an air-burst.
PS: the oil is thousands of feet below bedrock...no radioactivity
whatsoever.
The nukes will be used on the oil-tanker-terminals....three or
four years to rebuild them. I know. I built them.
Norm Worrell| 6.30.10 @ 9:51PM
No! You are not alone.
Osamas Pajamas| 7.1.10 @ 1:37AM
An Israeli attack on Iran would be a good time to kill Venezuelan
dictator Hugo Chavez and his ruling military clique, as he has
been cooperating with the Russians and Iranians on a strike force
capable of hitting the soft underbelly of the USA. Unfortunately,
the Joint Chiefs of Staff would first have to arrest Barak
Hushpuppy OhBummer and deport him over Mecca without a parachute,
and put a leash and a gag on VP Biteme.
mdeleine7| 7.1.10 @ 2:26AM
Fascinating scenario and comments !! Yes , I can feel the tension
being racheted up . I trust in the Lord of Israel and His Word in
the Bible . Israel will NOT be destroyed . However , I fear for
the US . The Government is most definitely with the Forces of
Evil . May God protect all those good people there !!!
madeleine7| 7.1.10 @ 2:52AM
I forgot to add - Please pray that Israel will trust in G-D and
not falter . Also , that He may protect and bless US and guide
people to find a viable solution for the horrendous Gulf Coast
tragedy.
Nice scenario save one thing, why do you and all of the other
writers on this subject ignore Israeli use of their nuclear
arsenal?
Why is it that EVERYONE seems to accept that psycho's like Iran
are willing to use nukes but that no one else would?
blupheonix| 7.1.10 @ 12:50PM
Are you kidding me???
If Israel strikes Iran, then the time has come to strike out at
Israel... That country is THE major source of unrest in the mid
east, and MUST be dealt with in the harshest way possible.... I
say we turn it into a big glass parking lot! Yes, fuck Israeli
war mongers! But lets not forget who is also culpable if Israel
hits Iran, The USA has been supplying Israel for YEARS, in $ and
high tech weapons. Why? Because Americans want JESUS to return,
and think that by (falsely) supporting Israeli Jews, that JESUS
will rise from the dead, and bring everyone ham sandwiches... So
by all means, start world war 3... But expect, not a Jew to
remain on earth if that happens... Why doesn't The US attack a
real criminal, like Oh, SAUDI ARABIA?!!! OR North KoreA...
Fucking pussies... Thats why. And you also have to play for your
Jewish masters also, we all know that.... PS, FUCK ISRAEL!
At least you have a balanced perspective that is not driven by
psychopathic anti-Semitism.
You're right though, as the only democracy in the Middle East
through all those years, Israel was always a big troublemaker.
Heck, that whole Yom Kippur War launched by Egypt and Syria was
really an Israeli trick so they could destroy Egypt and Syria.
Man, put down the pipe...
shipley130| 7.1.10 @ 1:01PM
I hope a war such as this doesn't break out during Obama's rule.
He is such a moron that even our most talented generals probably
can't stop the madness.
blupheonix| 7.1.10 @ 1:01PM
Now I KNOW you are all crazy after reading comments... All of you
really want to go to war with Iran don't you! Well, I just hope
your Military, otherwise you better sign the hell up right now,
and stop paying in lipservice.. Just proves that Israel operates
without the constraints that other countries have to work under.
Also I like how Israel is NEVER at fault, and how Americans have
been brainwashed to accept that line... Tell you what, do I have
the right to defend myself against radical Jews?? To prevent a
world war? Who says the next Hitler can't be a Jew?
PS. Fuck Israel.
Nick| 7.1.10 @ 1:39PM
Go away, anti-Semite pig!
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 2:08PM
BP, It's clear that you are a MUSLIM. Let me simply say this ...
The nation of Israel is located where it once was and, more
importantly, where GOD said it WOULD BE AGAIN.
To begin with from it's inceptioin, Israel has been attacked by
Arab Moslem nations and factions. It was the ARAB NATIONS that
started this. Yes, this WILL eventually end up in a NUCLEAR WAR
which will spell the END of most of the MOSLEM peoples since most
of them live in the MIDDLE EAST. Israel will NOT use NUKES first
but, WILL RETALIATE in such a way as to completely make certain
that ALL of it's problems are ELIMINATED. You know this IS the
truth . So, I would think that IF you had family or, friends in
the Middle East that you would want them to LIVE , NOT DIE.
This ongoing campaign by MUSLIMS to seize control of the entire
world simply WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Now, go back into the very FAR distant past and take a good look.
There WAS A NUCLEAR WAR maybe 20,000 or more years ago and, it
knocked humanity from our lofty perch down to nearly caveman
status. It's taken us this long to almost regain our original
perch. We're NOT there yet but, close.
Now, guess where that NUCLEAR WAR of OLD was located ... IN
INDIA, PAKISTAN, parts of CHINA and, the MIDDLE EAST.
You see, events DO happen to replay themselves IF WE DO NOT LEARN
THE LESSONS OF HISTORY. IN THIS CASE, I MEAN WE SHOULD ALL LEARN
TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, PERIOD. -------- JT
--------
P.S. Americans have NOT been brainwashed like you have said. We
can make decisions for ourselves and, in the case of Israel vs.
the Arab nations that seek to utterly destroy it, we CAN see
QUITE CLEARLY who is to BLAME.
Israel has tried to live peacefully with it's neighbors except
that such neighbors as HEZBOLLAH and HAMAS, among others, have
stated that their intention is to completely destroy the nation
of Israel AND it's people and, have it seems been completely
dedicated to trying to do just that. However, they WILL fail ...
these ARAB NAZI ISLAMO-FASCISTS WILL FAIL and, worse, they WILL
bring ALL of the rest of the MOSLEM world down with them. Just
wait and see. With the first nuke dropped by Iran, it will be
perceived to be the Moslems who have done this despicable deed
and, the WORLD will RISE UP and then the Moslems will know what
the word GENOCIDE really means. ------ JT ------
Tempus Mutantis| 7.1.10 @ 2:55PM
Insanity can hit a whole people; we saw that under
Schickelgruber.Now The Khazars are at it again; atacking their
neighbours viciously and digging their own graves,again. Free
yourself of the Robber-Baron, yes Rotschild ,who owns you- and
all Central /National banks in the world(save 7). Calm down , you
are NOT going to conquer the Universe (see :HUBBLE) Only billions
of moniesspent on intene,psychological popaganda, has corruptd
the minds of the people;nobody is so blood-thirsty and ignorant
of what "nuking" does to the Planet ,by nature, even Khazars can
bcome human-if they act as such.-By the way; ordeering GOD to do
this and that does NOT work.
Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 8:16PM
Another missive from the "palestinian" corner.
Thanks, anti-semite, now crawl back in your hole.
+++
T.D.Foster| 7.1.10 @ 3:35PM
Who is writing all this nonsense about "god" and "ezekiel"?Are
there still people out there who actually believe this guff?And
the scenario as portrayed by Babbib-or should that read Baboon?
is redolent of the writings of Lovecraft et al.Why is it always
"brave little Israel"-with two hundred nuclear weapons-and the
bullying arab nations.I say a plague on both their houses!
Ron Lewenberg| 7.1.10 @ 8:35PM
The author forgets taht Israel has dozens of Jericho III ICBMs.
Hopefully Israel has been building many more launch vehicles
without nuclear warheads. The ICBMS can be used with conventional
warheads of Kinetic Energy warheads (1 ton of tungsten or
depleted uranium) Such a rod of heavy metal has the equivalent
force of .75 Kilotons of TNT when it hits a smal area. A few of
them hitting a target can cause tremendous damage even to a
facility built into a mountain. Israel has many more Jericho II
icbms, but these have a payload of only 500kg. This would, of
course, be enough to take out an airbase or command center.
Israel already uses a modified Jerocho II, the Shavit 2 to launch
800kg satellites.
Also, The Israeli air force has 16 F-15D's it modified as the
Baz-2000) that would escort the strike.
bernardo| 7.1.10 @ 9:43PM
Let's hope that it will not come to war. Let us also hope that if
it does, Israel will not have to do the work alone. Destroying
the armed forces of the malignant government of Iran (if such
must be done) is in many ways our responsibility since the
failure, wrongheadedness, and criminal incompetence of an
American president (Reverend Carter) led to the creation of the
regime.
However I fear that with Carter II in the White House our country
will do nothing and leave it to Israel to fight alone. It has
been well said that one should not attribute to malice any act
that can be adequately explained by stupidity. However when one
notices Obama’s consistent pattern of favoring, flattering, and
fawning over Russia, Venezuela, China, various anti-American
Islamic despotisms, and just about any present or recent enemy of
the United States while shunning, demeaning, and insulting
Israel, Great Britain, Poland, the Czech Republic, and just about
any reliable friend of this country, one is ever more hard
pressed to get to an explanation based only on stupidity and
incompetence.
If the Israelis do have to act alone, it may well for them be a
total war. They might decide to hold nothing back in their strike
but rather hit with maximum necessary force with whatever weapons
are appropriate to the task. For total war against enemies out
for total destruction demands nothing less.
As no one should want such a war, we must hope our government
will finally act strongly to prevent it from happening.
Shula| 7.2.10 @ 2:17PM
The Bible calls the Israelite nation "a nation that dwells alone
(Am levadad yishkon).
Every year on the seder night we say, "In every generation they
arose to destroy us, yet G-d saved us from their hands. As a
religious Jew I know that those who want to kill out G-d's people
will try in every generation. Yet we are still here. Iran is
simply the current chapter in a very long story until we merit
the final redemption, may it come speedily in our time.
Reaganite71| 7.3.10 @ 1:42PM
Might an Israeli deployment of an EMP over Iran, prior to
launching a defensive attack against thier nuclear program,
minimize Iran's ability to counter attack?
It seems to me that would eliminate their fighter capability and
destroy the microchips in their missles, yes?
David Yousif| 7.4.10 @ 6:01AM
“I WILL BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS YOU AND CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE YOU”
, That was the promise of our GOD to Abraham, US has been blessed
all this time simply because we stood and supported Israel , and
the enemy of Israel “Arabs” they have been cursed all that time.
I sure hope we will not lose GOD’s blessing by ending our support
for Israel and a time where it is mostly needed.
heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 12:44AM
You insane Zionist motherfuckers. I see that you're at it again:
trying to drum up support for another criminal war for Israel.
You're going to pay for getting the US to go to war YET AGAIN for
that shitty little rogue state called Israel.
You Neocons are traitors and shall be treated as such. You have
been warned.
Slither back into your dank little holes, you Zionist scum.
Owen K.| 7.5.10 @ 1:16AM
You sound about as hate filled as anyone I have read on these
comments. So, why do you hate Israel and the Jewish people? What
have they done to make you so bitter?
heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 11:38AM
Why do you hate America and White Christians so much that you
want to subvert our interests to those of that criminal rogue
state, Israel?
Have you no shame?
You Judaic-Christians are lunatics. No wonder you're are so
easily manipulated by your Zionist masters.
Charles Martel| 7.6.10 @ 1:17PM
I am a white American Christian conservative, and I'd appreciate
your expanding on which of our interests is subverted by our
support for ever-beleaguered Israel. Please try to do so without
the extraneous emotion and omitting the words "hate", "traitor",
and "lunatic". I am truly curious as to which interest you
believe would be served by our betraying an ally.
+++
heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 12:46AM
Fight Terrorism: Nuke Israel
solo| 7.5.10 @ 12:53PM
Heartfelt Wrote:
" Why do you hate America and White Christians so much that you
want to subvert our interests to those of that criminal rogue
state, Israel?
Have you no shame?
You Judaic-Christians are lunatics. No wonder you're are so
easily manipulated by your Zionist masters. "
Hmmmm! The Prison Planet site must be down today.
I'll bet it's all a conspiracy by THE JOOOOOOOOS!
LOL!
Jane Marple| 7.6.10 @ 7:27PM
Put a lid on it, clownie.
Every time people like you can't answer someone's legitimate
criticism to stop putting the needs of another country above
those of the United States, you whine "Oy vey! Anti-semite!"
It's letting yahoos like you stifle legitimate criticism of
expansionist, neo-con policies for the last ten years, that's led
to the near-bankruptcy of our nation and the rest of the world to
regard us with suspicion and distrust.
If America isn't first in your heart, then get the hell out. But,
at least, thank you for revealing where your real loyalties lie.
Syd Chaden| 7.5.10 @ 3:06PM
Having read all of the comments to date, most of which
passionately support Israel, and some of which look forward to
its destruction, I am struck by the irony of the situation.
Supporters of Israel primarily see Obama as the enemy of Israel
and the major contributor to the danger of its destruction. There
is much greater concern that Obama will order the US military to
interdict an Israeli attack on Iran, than there is that Iran
might successfully defend against such an attack. If that concern
is warranted, and in my opinion it is, then Israel had best
launch its attack now, while Obama is primarily occupied with the
forthcoming elections. Israeli reliance upon an enemy for its
survival will only lead to its destruction.
Enemies of Israel primarily see Zionism as the major contributor
to the danger of ...of what? Certainly not to the danger to
Muslims. Many, many Muslims are killed daily around the world. A
very few may be killed by Israel in border skirmishes and in
retaliation for rocket attacks, but by far, Muslims are killed by
other Muslims. Where is the Muslim outcry? Don't those Muslims
count? Zionism is a movement to locate Jews in Israel, and the
Jews are there. While there are Muslims who won't accept that,
and who cry for Israel to be destroyed, that hardly explains the
unending killing of Muslims by other Muslims, around the world.
Honest_Bob| 7.5.10 @ 3:09PM
Unfortunately, we do have a "dog in this fight" by our bank
rolling of Israel. For the most part, the "Tail" (Israel ) wags
the "Dog"(US)!
The middle east is a landmine that has bankrupted our country. On
one side we have our trusted ally Israel, who spies on us, has
embedded operatives in our government and is all too happy to let
us fight their wars for them (never forget the USS Liberty!).
On the other side we have the Islamists, who basically want us
dead.
This situation will always be a Lose-Lose for the US.
Jane Marple| 7.6.10 @ 7:21PM
Gag me.
All you Israel-firsters need to make aliyah and become cannon
fodder in the IDF, you're so in love with her. For pity's sake,
how long has it been "patriotic" to put the need of ANY foreign
country, even Israel, before your own?
Wake up! The Bible is just a bunch of stupid fairy tales, and
you're going to help set the world on fire for a bunch of myths
written by dirty, half-literate, psychotic shepherds 2,500 years
ag?.
Watching you maudlinly fawn over Israel makes me wonder if the
leftists aren't right when they call conservatives (at least you
guys), the stupid party.
You people are traitors and, sadly, too stupid to even know it.
Mariela Sims| 7.6.10 @ 11:37PM
THE ONLY CRISTIAN COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHO STILL BELIEVES THAT
THE ZIONIST STATE OF ISRAEL (WHO BY THE WAY KILL JESUS) IS USA,
THE REST OF THE WORLD ALREADY WAKE UP!
I can't believe all these fooled ISRAEL-FIRSTERS here.
I'm a patriotic American -- I'm against that war-mongering,
deceitful nation of Israel and all those paranoid Zionist freaks
from Tel Aviv to New York.
George Washington warned us against allying ourselves with
foreign nations in his farewell speech. The spineless politicians
in DC are owned by these people and totally in their sway for
campaign financing and fear of the owned media.
Obama and Hillary Clinton are NOT going to do one damn thing to
Israel. Don't you get it? It's all orchestrated for anything
sacred Israel wants and always has been.
Don't any of you know that Israel tried to sink the US Liberty
and kill the entire crew in 1967?
Do you believe every damn thing you see on FOX News, or any other
US mainstream news?
When the hell will you put two and two together? The rest of the
world knows we always do whatever the Zionists want us to do.
They OWN US.
America on the GD wrong side here! These people are going to get
us into a war that will destroy the US, at the very least what's
left of our economy, or maybe even a whole lot worse.
It will end up with our children dying in another country that
Israel deems an enemy. They've done it before!
And all you religious people have been totally snookered by End
Times brainwashing by corrupted preachers. Read the New Testament
for yourselves and not from some Zionist Cliff Notes version.
“Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which say
they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them
to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have
loved thee.” -- Revelation 3:9
Count Cherep| 7.7.10 @ 5:49PM
Read the following book by Jack Bernstein:
The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel
Excerpt:
THE CONTENTS OF THIS BOOK ARE EXPECTED TO BRING A STRONG REACTION
FROM THE ZIONIST JEWS.
I am well aware of the tactics of you, my Zionist brethren, use
to quiet anyone who attempts to expose any of your subversive
acts.
If the person is a Gentile, you cry, "You're anti-semitic" which
is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide your actions.
But, if a Jew is the person doing the exposing, you resort to
other tactics.
First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be
given widespread distribution.
If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule
the information and the persons giving the information.
If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination.
If the author or speaker hasn't been involved in sufficient
scandal you are adept at fabricating scandal against the person
or persons.
If none of these are effective, you are known to resort to
physical attacks.
But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong.
The Above Mr. Phillip Marlowe is one of those persons that made
Adolph Hitler his GOD, he blames the US for Killing innocent
Germans during WW2, This Phony Patriot wrote about the German
Nazis
“I swear I will not forget the crime against innocent people at
Dresden. I will not forget that the US is responsible. I will not
forget! I am but one small life.
Rest my unknown friends, you downtrodden and despised of this
world. Though we could not speak the same language if we stood
before each other, though I never knew your names, and while your
faces I can only imagine, you are my departed loved ones. My
heart beats for yours. My mind remembers for yours. My tears for
yours…”
This Nazi dosen’t say a word about the 400,000 American Hero
Soldiers that were killed by the Nazi German Devils, but writes”
The political and military leadership of Britain and America knew
this when they ordered the air fleets to drop unbelievable
amounts of incendiaries and high-explosive bombs”
One of His followers writes” I am not fit to carry Hitler’s
luggage.
For those that try to denounce Hitler, you have no idea, the man
did everything humanely possibly to save the people of Germany,
all that overcame him was the utter stupidity and ignorance of
Americans, Russians and Brits, hand your heads in shame, and cry
tears for Dresden, and swear that the blood be avenged!
Phillip Marlowe is a Nazi who claims to be an American Patriot,
He already informed his Nazi comrades to comment their Nazi spew
in this blog.
How could American soldiers have been killed by Nazis?
That doesn't make any sense. There were no Nazi soldiers in
Pennsylvania or the Dakotas.
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YOu people are so tedious, so pathetic, so boring.
Somebody says he's opposed o the US having anything to do with
The Zionist Entity, and all you can do is shout "antishemite!"
"Nazi!"
Here's another Anti-Shemite Nazi for you to criticize:
U.S. Secretary of State John Quincy Adams, The House of
Representatives, 1821.07.04
And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned
philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation
and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible
planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells,
should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America
done for the benefit of mankind?
Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke
herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the
inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful
foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations,
since her admission among them, has invariably, though often
fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of
equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.
She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and
often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal
justice, and of equal rights.
She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single
exception, respected the independence of other nations while
asserting and maintaining her own.
She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others,
even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings,
as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.
She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the
contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of
inveterate power, and emerging right.
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or
shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her
prayers be.
But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.
She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her
voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.
She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than
her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she
would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the
wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and
ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of
freedom.
The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from
liberty to force....
She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no
longer the ruler of her own spirit....
[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the
march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto
upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been
her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary
intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.
Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 6:43PM
Clark Anderson.
Doesn't sound like a jewish name?
But one never can tell, as it is jews wont, to change their
names, so as to fool their host, all the better to achieve their
traitorous, and nefarious designs.
Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 6:18PM
"The Above Mr. Phillip Marlowe is one of those persons that made
Adolph Hitler his GOD, he blames the US for Killing innocent
Germans during WW2, This Phony Patriot wrote about the German
Nazis"
A "Nazi"?
Far from it.
Wise to judaism's many disgusting strategies?
Definitely.
Don't be swayed by a commenter, who sees nothing wrong in
murdering children for sport, (Palestine), Piracy and murder on
the High Seas (Marmara),and fomenting jewish wars that your
children die in, and you pay for ( Iraq, Afghanistan, soon to be
Iran).
Judge for yourself. http://incogman.wordpress.com/ http://brianakira.wordpress.com/
Everyone who is wise to the jew, is called a Nazi, by the jew.
So it goes.
Personally speaking, and based on comparison, of both
philosophies, vis a vis, morality, ethics etc.
I'd rather be a Nazi than a jew!
Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 6:49PM
Quotes from the Above Nazi Phillip Marlowe blog
As I mentioned his Nazi Comrades are already here.
"We need Hitler here, wish he took over and show us the
light.
America Needs Hitler NOW
America Needs Hitler NOW
Herr Hitler was right as usual. We need more today who are proud
to HATE THE JEWS as he did rather than think that the salvation
of the White race is in neocon Islamophobic Kosher garbage.
Hitler would have been proud of Aryan Moslems like myself!
Good one Incog.
There is so much that Hitler said that are lessons and warnings
to us all.Blacks, whites, browns, gentiles and yes, even
jews.
I often refer to Hitler when in discussion about the current
world situation.
Its usually a bad idea to drop the H-bomb to the unawakened,
being as the name has become such an evil curse word thanx to the
propaganda machine, but I just dont give a fuck anymore. The’ll
either get it or not.
Whatever.
Time is getting short and so is my patience.
Anyway, good job posting his translated words. Hitler was a
brilliant man who loved his German people. He awoke his nation to
the threat of the jew. In time his name will be cleared of all
the jew slant against him. He is a true hero."
Phillip Marlowe| 7.7.10 @ 7:05PM
"I often refer to Hitler when in discussion about the current
world situation."
Yeah, I bet you do. Hell, you people call everyone who dares
speak out as Hitlers and Nazis.
America would like to know if your type will ever shut up about
it. We're sick and tired of the Nazi BULL!
You've been milking the Hitler Schtick for what, 60 years now?
You've used it to steal an entire land right out from under the
people who lived there (Palestinians); whom you STILL treat like
dogs.
BEGONE YOU ISRAEL-FIRSTERS and "dual citizens" of Israel. You are
traitors to America.
1. If you don't know what hasbara is, please find out. It's
Hebrew for "persuaion", but actually it's a Jew-State government
campaign, very well-funded with US tax dollars, to start
web-sites, usually as fake Christians, to start YouTube channels,
to troll the Internet, often "debating" with oneself under
different identities. Please keep this in mind when online.
2. Jews, as Jews, lie. They do so because Jews, as Jews, don't
value truth. Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, The Truth, said
to the Jews:
[John 8:44]
3. Saint Paul wrote, in his letter to the Church at Thessalonica,
that the Jews are Christ-Killers:
"you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen
the same things those churches suffered from the Jews, who killed
the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They
displease God and are hostile to all men."
The people who killed Christ have no problem killing Americans,
lying about "gas chambers" and so on.
Of course Woody Allen and Roman Polanski didn't litteraly howl
for Christ's execution. But spiritually, they are, every day, in
all their works, Christ-Killers, because they reject Christ,
reject God, reject the Truth, reject The Gospels. And they seek
to converty others to join them in their own destruction.
Christ to the pharisees (i.e, rabbis):
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he
becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you
are."
By following these Christ-Killers, by kow-rowing to them, you are
risking joing them as sons of hell, as God the Son taught.
Now, what motivates so many Jews -- such as Allen, Polanski, Al
Goldstein, Henry Morganthaler, et al, to be so perverse, so
twisted, so evil?
It's their cult.
We are dealing with monsters. This is just one example of many of
the filth in their unholy books.
Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin
55b
Editor: Rabbi Isadore Epstein.
Published under the authority of The Very Reverend Rabbi Israel
Brodie, Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom.
Published by The (Jewish) Soncino Press, 1935
"A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in
marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother
cohabits with her, she becomes his. ... If she married a priest,
she may eat of terumah ... A male aged nine years and a
day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife acquires her
... but he cannot divorce her until he attains his majority. He
is defiled through coition with a niddah [a woman
defiled by menstruation] ..."
So here's the context: Menstruation, Bestiality, The Pox, and
having to wait until a girl is three years and a day old before
you can have sexual intercourse with her:
Sanhedrin 55b:
A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage
by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with
her, she becomes his. The penalty of adultery may be incurred
through her; [if a niddah] she defiles him who has connection
with her, so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as
a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with
gonorrhoea].5 If she married a priest, she may eat of terumah;6
If any unfit person7 has a connection with her, he disqualifies
her from the priesthood —8 If any of the forbidden degrees had
intercourse with her, they are executed on her account,9 but she
is exempt.10 Now, ‘any of the forbidden degrees’ implies even a
beast: in this case, there is degradation but no stumbling-block,
yet it is taught that they [including a beast] are slain on her
account.11 [No, this is not conclusive, as it can be argued that]
since she deliberately offended there is a stumbling-block]
[though she is a minor] but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon
her; now, He shewed mercy to her, but not to the animal.
Raba said: Come and hear! A male aged nine years and a day who
cohabits with his deceased brother's wife [the former having left
no issue] acquires her [as wife]. But he cannot divorce her until
he attains his majority.12 He is defiled through coition with a
niddah,13 so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as
a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with
gonorrhoea] — He disqualifies [a woman from the priesthood],14
but cannot enable a woman to eat [of terumah].15 He renders an
animal unfit for the altar,16 and it is stoned on his account,17
and if he had intercourse with one of the degrees forbidden in
the Torah, the latter is executed. Now here there is degradation,
but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught: ‘It is stoned on his
account.’ Since it was a deliberate offence, there is a
stumbling-block, but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon him;
now, He showed mercy to him, but not to the animal.
Notes
(5) A man who had sexual connection with a niddah, defiles that
upon which he lies even if he does not actually touch it. But the
degree of uncleanliness it thereby acquires is not the same as
that of bedding upon which a niddah herself, or a person
afflicted with gonorrhoea, lies. For in the latter case, the
defilement is so great that the bedding in turn renders any
person or utensil with which it comes into contact unclean;
whilst in the former, it can only defile foodstuffs and liquids.
This is the same degree of uncleanliness possessed by a garment
which has lain upon, or been borne by a zab (i.e., one afflicted
with issue).
(6) As the law of an Israelite's (adult) daughter who married a
priest. But if she was less than three years old, although the
Kiddushin accepted on her behalf by her father is valid, yet
since she is sexually immature, the marriage cannot be
consummated, and hence she is not thereby enabled to eat of
terumah. On terumah, the priest's portion of an Israelite's
produce, v. Glos.
(7) E.g., a heathen, hallal, nathin, or bastard.
(8) I.e., if a priest's daughter, or if the daughter of a Levite
or Israelite married to a priest, she may not eat of terumah.
(9) If they are of those forbidden on pain of death, v. supra
53a.
(10) As she is a minor.
(11) This solves R. Hamuna's problem.
(12) For, being a minor, he has no power to release her from a
bond laid upon her, in the first place, by an adult (his
brother).
(13) This rendering follows the more correct text of the Mishnah,
Niddah 45a, of which this is a quotation, which has umittamma
beniddah (through or by a niddah), instead of the reading here:
umittamma keniddah, as a niddah.
(14) V. p. 343, n. 6.
(15) If he is a priest, and has sexual connection with an
Israelite's daughter with marital intent, this does not authorise
her to eat of terumah, because he has no legal powers of
acquisition in marriage, excepting over his levirate
sister-in-law, who is already bound to him.
(16) If he committed bestiality therewith, only one witness
attesting the offence, the animal is not killed, nor does it
become unfit for secular use, but it may no longer be offered as
a sacrifice.
(17) If his bestiality was attested by two witnesses.
4. You think of yourself as a Conservative? You complain about
abortion, immigration, smut and filth on TV and movies and rap
music, lies in the media? Who owns the media, my friend? Can you
name any record company, Hollywood studio or Talmud-Vision
channel that isn't owned by Jews? Who is behind most porn, open
borders, financial corruption, and abortion? The Jew.
5. Jew is Jew.
6. God Bless You, and May He Grant You Wisdom.
Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 7:08PM
Akira the Comrade of the Nazi Phillip Marlowe
Get some More Anti Jewish Trash , Let the readers see your Hate.
God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses
those who curses them. Period....
The Zionist who gave himself the Gentile-sounding name "Clark
Anderson," is already monitoring my blog, obviously from his
comments.
This is what they do, work the Internet to keep real America
confused by pretending to be just like them. This is how it's
done in the US mainstream media, matter of fact.
WAKE THE HELL UP, AMERICA!
Here's a little something I wrote. Please take just a few minutes
to read it and see where I'm coming from. Thanks!
Yeah, that's right, go ahead call me a Nazi. That's SOP for you
traitorous Hasbara agents to call any American who dares to
comment on you people.
It's so tiresome, by now.
"All war is based on deception."
-- Sun Tzu c. 2300 B.C.
Sounds like a quote straight out of the MOSSAD handbook.
Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 7:48PM
Another jewish patsy,
calling calling goyim Nazi!
Pretty Polly, Pretty Polly!
You've been well trained.
Anybody notice how ben stein, in the banner at the top of the
page, looks like he's wearing a pair of comedy groucho
scnozzbrowgoggles?
I think that clears up any lingering question's as to the "slant"
of this particular blog!
Dolt.
Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 7:34PM
Clarkjob Andersonfarb.
"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses
those who curses them. Period.... "
Is that it?
Everyone has to fight jewish wars, because jews say so?
I don't want to die, or have my children die, in jewish fomented
wars, so jews can work out their neuroses as a "people", at their
expense!
Is that clear?
When will you as a "people", learn to deal with your own problems
in house, instead of dragging everyone else into your martial ,
wank fantasies, like the author of the article has done?
Don't go looking for trouble.
If you can't win a fight by yourself, don't provoke it!
When, if ever, will you tire of wholesale slaughter of
non-jews?
WHEN?
There has to be something mentally WRONG with you to behave this
way. NO?
A common Jew hasbarat tactic, designed to exploit the Christian
"goyim", is to throw out this bizarre maxim:
"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses
those who curses them."
Naive people are led to believe that this is some sort of
Biblical injunction. You'll notice that unlike most Biblical
citation, there's no reference to Book, Chapter, Verse.
That's because there's no such Biblical quote or reference.
Here's what it says at Genesis 12: 1-3:
"Now the LORD said to Abram [later changes to Abraham], 'Go forth
from your country, and from your relatives, and from your
father's house, to the land which I will show you; And I will
make you a great nation, and I will bless you, and make your name
great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who
bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse. And in you
all the families of the earth will be blessed."
So, you see, God said that He would bless those who bless
Abraham, and curse those who curse Abraham. There's nothing there
about "Israel" or "the people of Israewl" And definitely nothing
about Jews, since there were no Jews at that time.
Now, if someone should say that the "great nation" referred to is
Israel, well, who are the descendents of Abraham?
Abraham is the founding patriarch of the Israelites, Ishmaelites
(> Arabs), Edomites, and the Midianites and kindred peoples,
according to the book of Genesis.
Anyway, most Americans believe that their government should be
secular, so such theological arguments shouldn't be guiding
government policy.
Furthermore, most American Christians or Jews don't take the book
of Genesis literally, so it's irrational and political to simply
pick and choose passages that suit one's temporal purpose (and,
as already shown, the passage doesn't even refer to either Israel
or Jews.)
Now what is "Israel"?
One meaning of Israel: Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of
Abraham.
The Christian understanding of "Israel" has always been that The
Church is Israel, since the Church is The Body of Christ, and
Christ is The Word of God, the Logos; while the Jews are those
who rejected Christ.
This state in Occupied Palestine, this Jewish State, this Zionist
Entity, is just a political entity. Even if you can't see that
it's a foul and corrupt and bloody state -- even if you like or
admire it for some reason -- it is obviously not Israel in the
spiritual sense. It's just another rotten temporal political
creation.
So you see, this is just one more example of how the Jews lie,
and how they exploit the innocent.
Note that quoted above, in the introduction to the article is:
"All war is based on deception."
-- Sun Tzu c. 2300 B.C.
And what is the motto of Mossad?
Deception. Subversion. Deceit. Lies. "You are of your father the
devil."
To any genuine readers here:
This site is a vehicle of deception. These people in this cave
are just lying in wait for one such as you, hoping they will be
able to deceive you, to draw you into their web of deceit.
It's the same with the "Dems". The Raps, the Dems, Right, Left,
Libs, and so on: deception. A play, a game, designed to get you
to run up and down the field while the puppet masters wait for
you to exhaust yourself.
And then?
They eat you.
Dick Stallion| 7.7.10 @ 8:20PM
"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses
those who curses them."
Even if Israel is run by a bloodthirsty criminal network?!
The following book, written by a former US Counter Intelligence
Officer, reveals the agenda of International Jewry.
The Ultimate World Order
— as Pictured in “The Jewish Utopia”
By Robert H. Williams
Excerpt:
If the Communists think they are going to conquer all the nations
and set up a world government under a dictator of their own
choosing they may be in for a surprise. For their parent, the
sect which originally launched the Communist movement as an
offshoot to accomplish a specific and temporary purpose, has
plans for an ultimate world order of its own; and this sect,
commonly called Zionist, now vastly overshadows the much cruder
Communist machine in skill, finance, organization and influence.
The Communist plan for rubbing out all national, religious,
cultural and racial lines and submerging the world in formless,
characterless chaos for easy domination is grandiose enough. To
say that there is still another, more grandiose plan beyond that
for which the Communist machine was set up is indeed to challenge
the credulity of most of us, especially of us Anglo-Saxons who
are too busy with our humdrum routines to pull the
propaganda curtain aside and see the giant hiding there.
From the external resoures section at Source Watch, we find a
description of the tactics used by "Clark Anderson". We later
find a description of the program employed by the author, or
perhaps it is better stated as a program employing the author.
"Quote: "The Hasbara Handbook prescribes fascinating instructions
on attacking the messenger and avoiding the message at all costs
‘in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in
an attempt to promote’ their cause. In a section entitled ‘Name
Calling,’ Israel's Jewish Agency writes, ‘Creating negative
connotations by name calling is done to try and get the audience
to reject a person or idea on the basis of negative associations,
without allowing a real examination of that person or idea."
Here is the Source Watch info about the author, Jed Babbin, which
includes the information that Babbin was, and presumably still
is, a part of a Pentagon program, "to recruit "key influentials"
to help sell a wary public on "a possible Iraq invasion." [Cannot
post the link due to comment requirements, but you can search]
You can also find him listed in the second alphabetical listing
section in this 04-01-2010, 06:50 PM comment which lists Babbin
as an Israeli Hasbara author (Jed Babbin, under J).
The link to the source is in the introductory comment. How do
Americans like being given propaganda in the guise of regular
news and opinion. It happens to us all of the time and at first
it was Israel and now it is Israel supporters within our own
government who is doing it to us. That is NOT free speech and not
from a free press. Wake up and see what is actually going on. The
vital interests of the US is at stake, and depends largely on
your ability to view facts from the standpoint of those
interests, and we should not be operating for the vital or
financial interests of Israel and their paid supporters at the
expense of our country.
Anonymous| 7.7.10 @ 11:36PM
"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses
those curses them!"
Which god are you pertaining to? Have you considered that the god
of the murderers who occupy Israel today is actually Lucifer?
Yes, the Israelis worship Satan himself!
How can anyone bless a state loaded with an alien race (Khazars)
who have removed by force the true and original occupants of the
area, the Palestinians, and wants only war with its neighbors,
and all of mankind?
And by the way...How can anyone actually believe this garbage
about Iran? Iran has signed the NPT treaty which the evil state
of Israel has absolutely NOT. Iran does NOT possess nuclear
weapons, but the evil state of Israel does (several hundred in
fact). Iran has not invaded or caused a war with anyone for over
a thousand years (unlike the evil state of Israel). Iran is
following all the guidelines set by the IAEA for its peaceful
Nuclear power plant development (unlike Israel with its criminal
Dimona breeder reactor for nuclear weapons). Iran does not
practice racism (unlike Israel against the Palestinians and
Christians). Iran has NEVER said it wanted to wipe Israel off the
map as falsely put out by the Zionist Jewish controlled sick
twisted MSM..... I could go on and on......
How many more lies and untruths must you put up about the
criminal state of Israel? If you love that nation so much... Why
not quit being a heinous dual citizen in the United States, and
move to your cherished Zionist dreamland?
Hasbara agent, Babbin, is feeding us the Israeli line, using the
Tom Clancy schtick, so we think the plucky little Israelis will
be doing the job America should.
Cute bit of Zionist media propagandizing. When will Americans
figure out these people? When more body bags land at Dover?
Who conspired to unite the USA with all of Latin
America:
Brother Washington Brother Jefferson Brother Franklin
This is an example of how unbelievably stupid Americans are, and
how rancid the USA is. Most Americans don't even know that the
USA was intended to cover all of the Americas.
This was the intention of the "founding fathers" of the USA,
Mexico, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Boliva, Cuba, Uruguay, Paraguay,
Brazil, etc.
And then it was intended to be subsumed into the Masonic UN.
One of the reasons Latin America is so messed up is because its
leaders have been even more Masonic than the US's. So, as the US
becomes ever more Hispanic, and as the borders become ever-more
fictitious, expect the US to become more Masonic.
With an even more Masonic society, expect MORE:
Oligarchic control
Brainwashing
Jewish power
Corruption
Racial tensions
Multiculturalism
Anti-Christian activities and propaganda
Materialism
Idolatry
Queerism
... And all the other phenomena associated with
Slavemasonry.
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One of the things you won't hear in arguments about who was
better or worse between Allende and Pinochet: They both belonged
to the same Masonic Lodges.
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Mexico has had even more Masonic leaders than the US has had. And
unlike in the US, where many presidents have just been puppets,
those Mexican Masonic leaders actually exercised power.
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Every Latin American "independence" or revolutionary "icon" has
been a Slavemason:
O'Higgins, Marti, Miranda,San Martin, Castro, Bolivar, Chavez,
"Che". etc.
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The goal of North and South America's Masonic leaders from the
very beginning of the "revolutionary" movement has been to unify
all of the Americas under Masonic, oligarchic rule, as just one
phase in the creation of a Jew World Order.
GENERAL FRANCISCO DE MIRANDA FATHER OF REVOLUTIONARY MASONRY IN
LATIN AMERICA
By: Carlos Antonio Martinez, Jr.
Before the world even heard of Colossal Revolutionaries, such as:
Bro:. Augusto "Cesar" Sandino, Farabundo Marti and/or Ernesto
"Che" Guevara, men whose heroic struggles and ultimate sacrifice
for Freedom, Justice and Equality went beyond the territorial
limits of their own countries of birth, Latin America was able to
look up to the towering figure of its First Revolutionary Leader
Without Borders, our Illustrious Brother, Don Francisco De
Miranda.
The Father of Latin American Revolutionary Masonry and Precursor
of South American Independence (as Miranda was/is commonly known)
inspired the foundation of "The Most Worthy Lodge of Rational
Knights of Lautaro", which, operated in Cadiz, Spain, and where
some of the most notable Founding Fathers of the yet to be born
South American Republics, such as: Simon Bolivar, Jose De San
Martin and Bernardo O'Higgins, were initiated into the Craft. ...
Miranda was able to plant the seeds of Free-Masonry in almost
every country where he lived.
Various North American and French Historians [assert that his]
initiation...took place in Philadelphia in the year 1783, at a
Lodge, which was frequently visited by our equally Illustrious
French Brother, General Lafayette.
...
The archives of the Lodge where Miranda received the Masonic
Light were lost. What is amply known, however, is that Lafayette
was his Principal Recommender or "Godfather of Initiation". There
are also numerous references citing his constant visits to Lodges
in New York, and his fraternal meetings with George Washington at
a number of Masonic gatherings.
And it is precisely for that uncertainty concerning the day of
Miranda's initiation in Philadelphia, that some of the most
orthodox historians have shed much doubt over the Precursor's
Masonic Induction taking place in the United States. ... However,
posterior investigations to the publications of two volumes by
Americo Carniccelli give plenty of evidence of the contacts
between Lafayette and Miranda, and, which, culminated in the
latter's initiation in a Lodge in Philadelphia, in the year 1783.
Other investigators assert that Miranda was initiated in Paris,
France, in the year 1797, months prior to his return to
London.
...
[In] various English News Papers in 1785...Miranda is mentioned
to having been seen avidly engaging in a number of Masonic
Convivials with London's foremost Intellectuals and Nobles.
After considering all the available evidence and most appealing
theories, a british historian concluded that Miranda was
initiated in Philadelphia, in 1783; was passed to the Degree of
Fellow-Craft in London, in 1785; and raised to the Sublime Degree
of Master Mason in Paris, in 1790. This chronology seems to be in
more affinity with the Truth, for it keeps an accurate relation
with the General's constant journeys through those countries.
In 1798, while in London, he founded the Lodge "La Gran Reunion
Americana", or, as translated into English "The Great American
Reunion".
...
Miranda conferred the Degree of Master solely to those who
excelled in their intellectual capacities and were known for
their Fervent Love to Freedom and to the Cause of American
Independence. At the end of their oaths and obligations the newly
raised Master Masons stated a special clause, which ended with
the phrase: "thus I shall repudiate and combat all tyrans and
tyrannies."
The true labors of "The Great American Reunion", in fact, did not
revolve around Masonic Symbology and Catechism, as much as they
did, around the French Revolution and the necessity to liberate
the Spanish Colonies of America.
And, that particular characteristic, is precisely what Orthodox
Masons criticize about Miranda. They assert that he purposely
ignored the rituals and the proper conduction of ceremonies, with
the objective of creating "Clandestine Subversive Cells" that
ultimately contributed to the establishment of a republican
system, and a reform in the social structure of the colonies he
wished to liberate.
What today's Masonic Historians and/or Critics of Miranda neglect
to mention, choose to omit, or, simply ignore in their
"enlightened account" of past events and/or opinions, is that in
those days, every single Masonic Freedom Fighter gave avid
priority, within the walls of their own Masonic Temples, to the
discussion of tactics and strategies on the struggles they were
engaging in.
At that moment in time, NO adherence to any Masonic Ritual and/or
Precept was more important, than to live up to the Masonic
Principle and Commandment of fighting to the death for the
Sovereignty of the People. And, that, is exactly what our
fore-brothers of "The Great American Reunion" did!
It is note-worthy to add, at this time, that according to the
Bolivian Masonic Historian, Bro:. Angel Salas, the Grand Marshall
of Ayacucho, Bro:. Antonio Jose De Sucre, used to discuss and
plan his project of government during "Special Tiled Meetings" at
the Masonic Temple of Chuquisaca.
...
Unfortunately, for Miranda, his detractors keep on surfacing to
this very day. It seems as though they cannot forgive him for
being the son of a humble Canary Islander, and for never
formalizing his relationships with the European Nobility,
notwithstanding his stature, admirable culture and military
merits earned in the battlefield.
As mentioned earlier, Miranda was the Intellectual Creator and
Principal Founder of "The Most Worthy Lodge of Rational Knights
of Lautaro". At the end of 1785, while forcibly over-staying in
London, due to having a prize put on his head by the Spanish
Crown, he suggested for the historic Lodge the name of "Lautaro"
in homage to the Araucanian (Chilean) Leader who defeated the
Spanish Conquistador Valdivia in 1554.
During the subsequent period comprehended between 1807 and 1811,
a number of affiliated Lodges began their labors in the Spanish
cities of Cadiz and Madrid. Among their chartered members we find
the names of the following Freemasons and Notables:
- Jose De Gurruchaga
- Santiago Marino
- Andres Bello
- Luis Lopez Melendez
- Simon Bolivar
- Jose Maria Caro
- Bernardo O'Higgins
- Jose Miguel Carrera
- Juan Pablo Fretes
- Jose De San Martin
- Tomas Guido
- Jose Cortes De Madariaga
- Francisco Isnardi
In 1812, the first affiliated "Lautaro Lodge" was established in
American soil. This ultra secretive Masonic Lodge was instituted
and headquartered in Buenos Aires (Argentina) by San Martin,
Alvear and Zapiola. It had as its prime objective to struggle for
the achievement of continental independence, by succeeding in the
military arena, and by insuring that all like-minded politicians
and patriots gave it their full backing and support. Among its
founding members we find the following names:
- Jose De San Martin
- Carlos Maria De Alvear
- Jose Matias Zapiola
- Ramon Eduardo De Anchoris
- Bernardo De Monteagudo
- Juan Martin De Pueyrredon
- Antonio Alvarez Jonte
- Nicolas Rodriguez Pena
- Julian Alvarez
After issuing charters to a considerable number of affiliated
Lodges in almost every important South American city, the
"Lautaro Masonic Lodges" expanded their original aim to creating
virtual independent governments all throughout Latin America.
Given their character of "Secret Fraternal Organizations", these
Lodges were able to effectively create outstanding revolutionary
networks in Chile, Argentina, Venezuela, Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador,
and even Brasil.
On March 12, 1817, immediately after the patriotic triumph in the
Battle of Chacabuco, the "Grand Masonic Lodge of Lautaro" was
duly established in Santiago. Their principal founders were our
Illustrious Brothers, General Jose De San Martin and Bernardo
O'Higgins, whom, appears to have been the sole architect of the
Mother Constitution of "The First Masonic Grand Lodge of Lautaro"
with headquarters in Chile.
Aside from San Martin and O'Higgins, some of their most
distinguished chartered members included:
- Tomas Guido
- Jose Antonio Balcarce
- Jose Ignacio Zenteno
- Juan Gregorio Las Heras
- Ramon Freire
- Manuel Blanco Encalada
- Miguel Zanartu
- Ramon Arriagada
UNQUOTE
Add to these Hispanic Slavemasons the names of their English,
French, Scottish, Dutch, Jewish and German Lodge brothers who
established the "United States of America", and you have the
entire Masonic foundations for The American Union currently
taking shape.
This is why illegal immigration across the southern border will
not be stopped.
This is why the US is constantly engaged in wars and promoting
perpetual global revolution.
Because the USA is and has always been a Masonic state, and was
intended from the beginning to serve the interests of Masonic
domination of the globe. And Masons are slaves to Jews. And
Masons want to establish a New World Order, which is actually a
Jew World Order.
Charles Martel| 7.8.10 @ 1:37PM
You people are disgusting, and your screeds are nothing more than
anti-Jewish pornography. No one here is interested in watching
you expose your virulent bone-chilling hate. Go away, and never
return.
I mean it. Go back to your own Sand-Nazi blogs.
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Legion Aire| 7.8.10 @ 2:16PM
While hating jews for the simple fact that they are jews may not
plausible to many it goes without saying that the jews are the
main cause of all the hardships they face and have faced. Their
solidarity within their own group while perpetuating the
destruction of another cannot go without notice.
It is unlawful for a jew to marry a non jew in their own country,
but here in America it is the jew that owns the media that is
putting it out that we as whites must assimilate with all other
races if we don't want to be construed as racist.
They advertise race mixing on a daily basis and yet find it to be
so disgusting themselves that they have made laws against such
actions. They demand that equal rights must be enforced as long
as it is only on the benefit of non-whites. Whites are an
unprotected class as far as hate crimes go.
As far as the arabs dancing in the streets on Sept.11 I do
believe we arrested a group of Mossad agents dancing and filming
the buildings collapse. So the jews have a way of spinning that
little fiction around as well.
They have been the cause of most of the terrorism this nation has
faced be it in egypt in the 40's and 50's up to the bombings of
our embassies. You can cover it up with all your little "it was
the arabs bullshit all you want" The American people are waking
up to your kind of subversive behavior and this nation will get
put on the list of all the other nations who have gotten sick of
your ways and expelled you from our lands.
Can it be that it is simply antisemitism that has made you
unwelcome in every nation you have tried to call home? Or is
there some underlying circumstance that is equatable in all these
scenarios? How can it be called antisemitism when you aren't even
descendants of semites? The majority of zionist jews are
ashkenazi jews to begin with. You are converts to that faith in
the 6th century and you follow the talmud instead of the torah.
Even if you have the ability to dupe the majority of Americans
into believing you are the chosen there are many more who know
the real truth and the truth does not need to hide behind laws to
protect it from ever coming out.
Did 6 million really die? If so why do you need to fear the
question and make it illegal to even question it? If the halocost
was so horrible you think the average jew would be sickened by
the typical jews use of such to profit.
Charles Martel| 7.8.10 @ 6:25PM
Blame the victim: good idea, or at least of a piece with all
previous efforts.
And there is only one kind of person peddling the Dancing Mossad
myth. That kind of person is well represented in this thread.
Fortunately, thinking people know better.
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Legion Aire| 7.8.10 @ 6:39PM
Typical of the jew to always play the victim. There is only one
kind of person peddling the dancing mossad myth?
Makes me wonder how they knew to be there filming in the first
place. Maybe we should trust a group known to lie and cheat when
caught red handed as opposed to our own police right?
posterchild| 7.9.10 @ 12:37AM
Anyone that plainly exposes the Zionist is labeled a hater,
anti-semite or Naziii; but in turn can't provide reasons for
doing so other than to smear anyone with an opposing view. Nice
labels. "Much better than antiChrist.
little guy| 7.9.10 @ 4:04PM
The American Spectator is obviously a JIDF disinformation
operation.
Legion Aire| 7.9.10 @ 4:50PM
Mr. Martel,
I am not blaming anyone, I am asking poignant questions and would
like a response which does not include name calling.
Why is it that if the halocost was real and everything your
people are teaching is on the up and up, does it need to hide
behind laws banning its opposition?
I personally suggest everyone to not take my word on this
subject, but also do not take Martel's either, research it
yourself.
Ask yourself who was it that attacked the USS Liberty. Research
the Levon affair, then ask yourself are these people really our
allies.
Jo Boward| 7.10.10 @ 8:18AM
Little Guy
If "The American Spectator is obviously a JIDF disinformation
operation"
So why are you and your Nazi's friend hanging around here.......
get back to your Nazi Parties.
Charles Martel| 7.10.10 @ 7:01PM
"Not many people know it, but the Führer was a terrific dancer."
The people posting here may not actually be Nazis, but it would
seem -- in great big bright glowing letters, it would "seem" --
that their only problem with the Nazis is that they didn't finish
the job.
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Legion Aire| 7.10.10 @ 9:31AM
So Jo just because we don't buy into all the bullshit that is
being presented to us we are Nazi?
I love it when you ask a jew a very simple question, they know
that they can't answer intelligently, because to do so would let
some of the sheep see that there is a wolf within their midst.
So instead you resort to name calling. Typical. Let me guess that
being a patriot for my own country and not believing that we
should risk our own national security for another nation makes me
a antisemite also right?
What don't you sheep get about this whole Israeli first mission
you all seem to have fallen into. Our founding fathers would be
disgusted with all of you.
Jo Boward| 7.10.10 @ 6:37PM
Legion Aire
I never called YOU personally Nazi, so I guess you know what you
are !
Legion Aire| 7.10.10 @ 8:52PM
That's what I thought, I guess the questions were to difficult or
just to much of a touchy subject.
Odd how you all play the victim even though you are the ones
calling names and insinuating facts not in evidence. Did you see
me call you a kike or a heeb. but damned if not all of your
responses either outright are calling others names or at least
insinuating it.
The truth does not need to hide behind attacks it can withstand
the views of the public.
Jo Boward| 7.11.10 @ 2:24AM
Legion Aire
"That's what I thought" from your mixed writing, you don't think
at all, all you present is recycling cut and paste boring low
white supremacist trash.
Legion Aire| 7.11.10 @ 9:31AM
All I am doing is presenting very simple questions, that you and
your Israeli firsters seem to not be able to answer. The more and
more you thrash against the truth and resort to name calling the
more ignorant you appear to be.
I have never stated that I am superior to anyone else, I am
asking you why as a patriotic American why should I support an
"ally" that offers this nation nothing other than world wide
contempt all the while taking billions of dollars off the
American taxpayers? Not to mention the repeated terrorist attacks
your nation has committed against this nation, and yet has still
refused to apologize for such affairs when caught red handed.
Why is it that you are afraid to answer the questions? Can any of
you post a response that does not call others names? It reminds
me of trying to correct a third grader.
Vincent Mohan| 6.30.10 @ 6:48AM
Scary stuff. It sounds like Mr. Babbin expects Israel to commit suicide (figureatively and literally) while taking out the Iranian forces for the rest of the world. No nation should have to shoulder a burden like his alone.
Ret. Marine| 6.30.10 @ 7:51AM
It speaks of a " do it or die" methode. They know they must do it, with or without the US involvement or they are to die at the hands of evilness. But as any good person of the Book knows, this will end real badly for the prophets of satan, i.e., muslims and their false god allah.
ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 12:50PM
Was in Israel a little over a year ago. We were allowed the priviledge of a tour of Masada. The Israeli guide told us the story with great passion and detail. They would have preferred to kill each and and leave one man to commit suicide than to give up there homes, and families to Rome. They will never lay it down, or give it up. It is with the memory of those who so bravely held off Rome for 3 years, and then died that the stand with the "do it or die" ideal.
I pray for God's blessing on the people of Israel.
["Prayer is not conquering God's resistance; it is taking His will by the hand!" ] God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them. Period....
believer| 6.30.10 @ 2:57PM
Ret. Marine- Even though Believers know that God will stop the distruction of Israel just in time,
it still scares me to death that America will take sides against Israel and pay the ultimate price.
Thanks for your comment.
Quartermaster| 6.30.10 @ 8:04PM
God will not just stop the destruction of Israel, he will destroy those who attack Israel.
Babbin's speculation isn't bad, but it does not match Ezekial chapters 38 and 39. The attackers will come to Israel, and die on the mountains of Israel. Only 1 in 6 will go home. It may start as in Babbin's article above, but that's not how it will end.
John Pickett| 7.3.10 @ 4:39PM
I still believe in Ezekial:38@39 whole heartedly. Then the Jews will believe, but I'm like you our country will turn its back on Israel and I still think our Patriots will go ape over this. May God have mercy on our souls!
Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 8:49PM
"No nation should have to shoulder a burden like his alone."
No, but certain conservatives-- Pat Buchanan comes to mind-- wont shed a tear if Israel is annihilated.
Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 10:20PM
When someone defends the Holocaust, you can understand it, it was long ago, even if you don't ACCEPT it. But now some of them want another Holocaust? All the death, rape, and mutilation (torture as well) of WWII wasn't enough?
Some people are very hard to please.
Mark James| 7.1.10 @ 1:26AM
But in the meantime, Israel will be all but destroyed and the rest of us will be in ruins. His coming will end man's rebellion once and for all time and eternity.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:32PM
Vincent, If you think for a moment that the Israelis are commiting suicide, I would recommend that you revisit the events of the ARAB/ISRAELI CONFLICT from it's inception to the current time. The 1967 war had the ARABS with numerical superiority in EVERYTHING except GUTS and DETERMINATION. Plus two things more, The ISRAELIS were BETTER TRAINED and, they had GOD on their side.
So, please believe me when I say this, the IRANIANS WILL FAIL TO DESTROY ISRAEL. Why you might ask ? ... Well, it's simple, really. Number 1. The ARABS have been proven to be cowards when it comes down to placing your backs against a wall and fighting from it. The Israelis are EXPERTS at doing this. Number 2. The ARABS are BULLIES in effect due mostly to their upbringing and the Quoran's teachings. They aren't expecting any real opposition and, when they get smacked in the face with it, their instinct is to RUN just like all bullies. Number 3.
The IRANIANS are NOT as well trained as the ISRAELIS, period. Number 4. THE ARABS DO NOT HAVE GOD ON THEIR SIDE. ------ JT ----
Appleby| 6.30.10 @ 7:34AM
Perhaps Israel still believes that it is better to die on their feet than live on their knees.
Would that more still felt that way.
Tom in Michigan| 6.30.10 @ 1:35PM
Unfortunately for Israel those are not their two choices. If they don't prevail, the IDF heroes will die on their feet. If they don't prevail, the Israeli citizenry will also die on their feet. There is no living on their knees as their enemies are butchering barbarians who will not stop until they have completed the Second Holocaust.
For the second time in my life (the first time was when the Democrats betrayed our Vietnam veterans and dead and our Vietnames allies into the hands of the Communists), I am sickly ashamed of my country. I loathe this government.
If Israeli falls and we do nothing to stop it; this nation will suffer a moral collapse from which it will never recover.
May God bless the state of Israel and damn the Islamists around the world.
mark James| 7.1.10 @ 1:29AM
No, they will continue to "live on their knees" but they will kneel only before I AM.
codin andrei| 7.1.10 @ 9:21AM
Live Free or Die! ... where did we hear that before? The Israelis will fight against all odds, same as in the uprising in the Warsaw ghetto. May the Lord bless them!!!
Melvin| 6.30.10 @ 7:55AM
The Jews have already died on their knees. The vowed, "Never Again."
The only thing that is left for them is to die on their feet, and to take as many Iranians as possible with them.
coal carrier| 6.30.10 @ 8:44AM
Back in the early 1970’s my older brother and I were having a discussion about world events. He brought up the subject of Israel and their continuous struggle with their neighbors. He said that one day they would have to stand alone. I said, stand alone? What about the United States? We are their friend and ally. He said the day would come when the United States would be powerless. We will, at this time, be nothing but another 3rd world country. Our military will be weak and our political class will not want to get involved. I said to him “What the hell have you been drinking?” He said, ok, we’ll see. I said, if this happens I’ll buy you a steak dinner. He said, at that time you probably will not have the money to buy a steak dinner.
With all that has transpired since Obama has been in office and with his connection to the Muslim world, it certainly looks like Israel will have to stand alone. And, I’m not sure that I’ll have the money to buy that steak.
Believer| 6.30.10 @ 3:07PM
Coal Carrier-In the Bible I think its in Hezikiah the Lord Prophisied that in the last days "all nations" would come against Jerusalem to battle.
My personal opinion is America will be too Bankrupt to help Israels enemys, but the book
says All Nations so I guess that means America.
luxuryoption| 6.30.10 @ 6:30PM
The book of the bible you refer to is Ezekiel 38-39.
FakeEagle| 6.30.10 @ 8:49AM
"They are loved on account of the patriarchs. God's gifts and his calling are irrevocable."
Margie| 6.30.10 @ 12:25PM
~Romans 11:29.
Amen.
Robert Vail| 6.30.10 @ 8:50AM
What a scenario! How sad that the U.S. has chosen to ignore its friend Israel in such a time of need. The Israel will fight to the last man, woman and child. They have been pushed against the wall and have no choice but to strike the Iranians and inflict as much damage as possible. Otherwise, the ayatollahs have already stated that they will "wipe Israel from the face of the earth". Faced with such a threat, who can blame Israel for defending herself against annihilation?
Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 11:23PM
But doesn't the Word say Armaggeddon is to come with or without any particular politician?
However if God says "vote for Palin in '12 to save yourselves", then we'll know.
If God says "get out your checkbook and make a tax deductible donation to the RNC", then we shall knoweth for sureth!
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:38PM
WELL SAID ROBERT ! PLEASE REFER TO MY COMMENT TO THE FIRST WRITER.
---------- Your UNCLE
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:40PM
Well said ROBERT, your uncle T.
FLAgirl| 6.30.10 @ 8:59AM
Elections do have consequences...I cannot imagine a McCain/Palin White House letting Israel go it alone.
Obama was known to be friends with Rashid Khalidi and other Palestinian supporters prior to his election, and yet how many Jewish Americans voted for him? The man who sat in Rev. Wright's "church" for 20 years is obviously not a supporter of Israel, and is not and probably will not stand up to Iran. After all, it may interfere with his golf schedule.
RacerJim| 6.30.10 @ 11:24AM
Correct you are FLAgirl.
How every one of my long-time Jewish friends can still support Obama is beyond my comprehension.
Doug| 6.30.10 @ 11:53AM
Because they are Liberals. All Liberals are Liberals first, anything else a distant second, because Liberalism is a godless religion. Your long-time Jewish friends will always take the side of Liberal leaders over the American people, Israel, God, and any other entity that their own Messiah opposes.
Quartermaster| 7.1.10 @ 8:11PM
Liberal "Jews" aren't Jews. Hebrews, yes, but certainly not Jews.
Actually, Judaism is not possible these days. Without the Temple or Tabernacle it is impossible to practice Judaism as the sacrificial system is not possible. The term "Jew" means a practitioner of the religion of Judah. that religion died when the temple was burned in AD 70 by Roman troops.
J Rich| 7.1.10 @ 12:30AM
Without a doubt obama is a Muslim. He most certainly will not go against any Muslim country.
We have to get him out of office immediatly if not sooner. Yesterday would not be soon enough.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:46PM
Yes, guys, Yes, you are quite correct and, since BARAK INSANE OBAMA refused to reveal where the vast bulk of the contributions to his campaign came from, it's my guess that they came from ARAB nations.
FURTHER, I AM CALLING FOR THE IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT of THIS PRESIDENT and, the COMPLETE REMOVAL OF ALL OF HIS REGIME AND THE OVERTURNING OF EVERY PIECE OF LEGISLATION HE AND HIS REGIME HAVE FORCED THROUGH CONGRESS !! ---- JT ----
ben roesch| 7.1.10 @ 6:38PM
how to do this
David| 6.30.10 @ 9:32AM
Don't forget that Israel may have a few nuclear weapons. If they go under, they will probably use them where they will do the most good - striking at the true heart of Israel's and the Jews' enemy, raining fire from the heavens on them. It's a shame that our elected officials (cept I didn't vote for him) are so disgustingly servile to those who call us "enemy".
Tony Rome| 6.30.10 @ 10:42AM
Google Dr. Richard Rubinstein and one will discover why under the Obama administration, Israel will have to go it alone. Obama is a anti-Semitic, no question about it. According to Rubinstein, Obama believes Israel was never entitled to their land.
Doctor Right| 6.30.10 @ 10:42AM
I don't see Obama, et al, supporting this type of action by Israel...at least, not openly.
However, nor do I see them able to utterly abandon Israel, and sponsor a UN Resolution condemning such an attack.
Obama is a neophyte, in many ways, but he has many political operatives around him who know full well the political wrath that the American Jewish community would heap upon the Democrat's heads, especially with the Republicans (justifiably) telling them that Obama is selling-out Israel.
Still...It's shameful that we would let our best ally shoulder the burden of destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities AND suffer all the consequences.
Shameful...And cowardly. And very un-American.
Grandpa| 6.30.10 @ 12:13PM
I don't think the question is whether Obama will support Israel during an attack on Iran. Of course he won't. The question is whether he will order our military to shoot down Israeli airplanes, or just eliminate their element of surprise by tipping off the Iranians of the coming armada.
tjsker| 6.30.10 @ 11:04AM
The ending is why I think Israel will wait until our next presidential election in hopes of getting someone other than Obama.
If they move on the story's timeline, it will be ugly for everyone including the U.S. I can see U.S. mercy ships and planes evacuating Israeli refugees from their homeland under attack by all of its adjacent countries. And then flash forward years later where the U.S. is involved in a long drawn out war to take Israel back from its new inhabitants.
Charles Martel| 6.30.10 @ 3:17PM
(1) It is becoming increasingly clear that the Israelis do not have the additional two years that you envision.
(2) No sovereign nation would overtly attack any U.S.-flag vessel engaged in an evacuation. None of them would risk war with the United States, even with a president as weak and feckless as Obama. Such "mercy ships", though, would be subject to ballistic missiles fired at Israeli ports by the terrorist organizations in Gaza and Lebanon: they know that they have nothing to fear from their brother Obama.
(3) There would be no war to take Israel back. Once the Arabs are in possession, all countries, including ours -- even if we subsequently elected an actual Christian American -- would wash their hands of the region. Most, especially the emasculated Europeans, would breathe a sigh of relief.
The God-damned Arabs will murder the captured and wounded, military and civilian alike, every man, woman, and child; and the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Jewish dead would be burned in the streets or buried en masse in pits while the Arabs dance.
May God curse every hand that cast a ballot for Barack Hussein Obama.
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Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 11:17PM
Um, well I am planning to vote for Obama. But if Armaggeddon comes before Nov 2012, you wont have to curse me or the rest of them galoots.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:03PM
Alan, ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO WIN IS FOR YOU TO DO NOTHING.
If you believe in the CONSTITUTION and those RIGHTS it grants to YOU, then please take this to heart.
1. OBAMA before he came to ANY OFFFICE said that he was AGAINST THE PRIVATE OWNERSHIP OF FIREARMS BY U.S. CITIZENS.
2. OBAMA WROTE IN A SPEECH THAT HE WAS IN FAVOR OF REMOVING OUR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH.
3. HE HAS SAID HE WANTS TO RULE. HE MEANS OUTRIGHT AS THE FIRST KING OF THE U.S.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND, THIS MAN IS AN AVOWED COMMUNIST, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST AND, PROGRESSIVE. THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT HIM, THEREFORE, WHY VOTE FOR HIM ??
AFTER ALL, the DAMNED DEMO(N)CRATS HAVE AS THEIR MASCOT( LOGO ) A JACKASS. SO, MY QUESTION HERE IS THIS ... ARE THEY SAYING THEY'RE JACKASSES or, ARE THEY SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE JACKASSES OUT OF ALL OF US ??!!! ---- JT --
P.S. I guess all of us know what you are !!
Ole Johansen| 7.6.10 @ 12:55PM
Why this awful shouting?
Mike| 7.1.10 @ 4:17PM
You are certifiably nuts. So consumed with hatred for the "God Damned Arabs" that you probably can't sleep at nights.
Take your medication. Get anger management counseling and quit reading trash from a chickenhawk neocan asshole who can't write good fiction even in the unusual case where he is actually trying to write fiction.
Sorry boys - Israel will not attack Iran, nor will the USA.
Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 5:36PM
Thanks for your "concern", but I'm fine. I'm worried about you though, about how you can't seem to identify the enemy. Remember how they were dancing in the streets on 9/11? Apparently not.
If I were losing sleep at night, it would be because of my fellow Americans who are so comfortable with the idea of the "Islamic Republic", the most prolific sponsor of terrorism in this world, in possession of nuclear weapons that they are unwilling to do anything to forestall it.
When your city is incinerated, should I care?
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Akira| 7.8.10 @ 9:31AM
"remember how they were dancing on the streets on 9/11?"
-- You mean those Mossad agents in New York? The ones who were arrested, ass reported even on Zio-FOX, then released?
Charles Martel| 7.8.10 @ 1:29PM
That did not happen, and you are a liar. And as indicated by your post below, you are also a piece of anti-Semitic filth.
I speak of the "Palestinian" Arabs that everyone saw on CNN.
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Akira| 7.8.10 @ 9:29AM
Re: "No sovereign nation would overtly attack any U.S.-flagged vessel"
The Jews would.
They did.
They tried to sink the USS Liberty and to kill the entire crew.
Fortunately they only succeeded in murdering 32 Americans.
Of course The Jew-State is not exactly sovereign since it exists as a parasite of US taxpayers.
martin j smith| 6.30.10 @ 11:08AM
In the world we know, there is a great deal of theatre and there is a great deal of reality. Problem is separating out the two. BHO in particular and his company are hard to get to the truth. Especially what is actually communicated between BHO et al and th Israeli government. Taking the BHO admin line at face value--meaning a guy with a chip on his shoulder about Israel , this policy of could shouldering Israel could lead into a disastrous world war. So for example, if we "play the game opf "what if..." I could i8magine the following if Israel attacks iran and the US joined a UN embargo against Israe:
From Benjamin Netanyahu;
Dear Barak:
What you and the UN has done is in our view a declaration of war on the State of Israel. Therefore, let me caution you and other states
our finger is on the trigger--we have nothing to lose. So, you can bet your friends will feel the consequences at any given moment as you will as well. We caution you to stand down . This is your final warning..
bn
Howard| 6.30.10 @ 11:14AM
Israel is is a "lose lose" situation. If they do nothing, Iran will eventually develop an A bomb or two. If they attack before hand, they will be subject to condemnation and attacks from Iran and its proxies. The condemnation and proxy attacks are survivable, Iran dropping nukes is not. And by the way, Obama, who says Iran will not try to use them on the US?
Tom in Michigan| 6.30.10 @ 1:39PM
Of course Iran will use nuclear weapons against the US; at the first opportunity.
In their perverted view, Israel is merely "the little Satan." We are "the Great Satan" and their ultimate target.
The Obamaviks are like collaborationists throughout history, thinking they can make an accomodation with an implacable enemy when, in reality their malfeasance only delays the inevitable.
DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 2:35PM
Using a nuclear weapons is not necessarily equivalent to lighting one off. The Iranian nuke, once recognized, has its uses. One of them will be for the Israelis to strike before Obama gets scared off entirely. One could argue that the prospect of a nuke has changed Obama. No way to counter such an argument. Israel will be 'all in' if the conventional strike is met with any kind of WMD. And I hope that any government in the middle east is feeling a little uncomfortable. I can see collateral damage over several weeks all over the globe if Israel does not prevail. It will all be pre-arranged.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:19PM
Dave, Traditionally ALL arab nations have mouthed their support for other ARAB nations that were shaking their swords in the air while most have refused to get involved in the conflict.
Take IRAQ for example, MANY of the other ARAB nations voiced their approval while quietly hoping that Saddam Hussein was removed and, they were GLAD when he was removed.
Now, let's take a really GOOD look at IRAN. The IRANIANS ARE PERSIANS and, HATED just as much by the ARABS as is ISRAEL. The ARAB nations WILL NOT back IRAN, they WILL just voice their approval and, nothing more. IF IRAN AND ISRAEL WERE TO UTTERLY DESTROY EACH OTHER, the ARABS would be quite pleased.
The real fear for the ARAB middle eastern nations is this ... IF IRAN drops a nuke on ISRAEL, then the radiation would also destroy their citizens as well and, this would depend upon which way the wind blew. It could be EGYPT and ALL of the ARAB NATIONS IN AFFRICA or, it could be ALL of the ARABIAN PENINSULA nations. They know this and, so, I wouldn't be surprised IF some if not all of those nations sided with ISRAEL in this instance. ------ JT ------
Christopher Holland| 6.30.10 @ 9:33PM
America is in a 'lose lose' position as well. If America does nothing, it loses. If Israel attacks alone, America gets the blame anyway and Israel's attack will be less effective for its isolation. If America's policy is to fight to the last Jew then it will get no thanks from anybody - it is a gutless, disgracefull and dishonourable policy - but exactly what will probably happen anyway.
dcd| 7.1.10 @ 3:08AM
and if the US stands with Israel the middle east will stop the flow of oil and cash. Israelies are really nice folks, but what's one little country compared to my SUV. Priorities people.
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:29PM
Sir, Come on, I'm sure you by now realise trhat the ARAB OIL PRODUCING nations realise what the consequences of an OIL EMBARGO by them would mean. Don't you ... ? It would mean OBAMA WILL BE FORCED TO DEVELOP THE OIL FIELDS WE HAVE AND FURTHER, TO USE THOSE WE ALREADY HAVE DEVELOPED AS WELL.
The OIL FIELD in EASTERN MONTANA and WESTERN NORTH DAKOTA HOLDS MORE OIL THAN WHAT ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS HAVE COMBINED plus, WE ALSO HAVE THE ANWR WHICH IS HUGE and, ALL OF OUR COASTAL RESERVES plus, we have ONE HALF OF THE WORLD'S OIL SHALE and, A HUGE AMOUNT OF COAL.
No, sir, the ARABS might be many things but, they're NOT STUPID. They DO NOT WANT THE U.S. GOING INDEPENDENT and, becoming their CHIEF COMPETITOR !! --- JT ---
Sean| 7.5.10 @ 8:39PM
Interesting deduction, but I would argue that would NOT come to pass: Obama and his crowd are too ideologically opposed to the development of our sovereign oil fields. I would instead see an accelerated push for some type of hair-brained utopian dream scape - alternative fuel initiative - depending on how this whole cap -and -tax thing plays out - but of course that is a complete non starter as far as actually being viable at this point - if ever. I think that the resulting oil embargo will create the most intense economic despair this country has ever seen, precisely because we have not taken steps to open ANWR or the shale fields that you have mentioned.
That's assuming this all happens before elections of 2012. God truly help us if this man wins a second term.....
Louis Jenkins| 6.30.10 @ 11:23AM
A shocking scenario, but true. I hope it does not come to this, however, it is very possible. The US Military knows what Israel is up against. It may be one time they do not listen to the Pretender n Chief and aide Israel. At which point the gig is on for all of us. We'll have to see.
DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 2:40PM
I think McChrystal would not relay such an order (to shoot down Israeli planes or sink Israeli subs.) I don't think Petraeus, or a Norman S. or any other command general worth a lick would dare shoot an Israeli plane down (not if he wants to keep his family out of a witness protection - like program.) There could be a court-martial or two, but I think it would pass. The public would weigh in, and BHO would not prevail against the insubordinate.
Charles Martel| 6.30.10 @ 3:25PM
You envision Beck, Witzleben, and Rommel. You should instead expect Keitel, Jodl, and Fromm.
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DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 3:40PM
If you mean to distinguish those who'd serve the Fatherland from those who serve the Fuhrer, then you'd be all over it. I may hope against reason, may I not?
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:35PM
CHARLEMAGNE, It was THOMAS JEFFERSON who said the WHEN THE LAW OF THE LAND BECOMES UNJUST, IT IS THE OBLIGATION OF EVERY CITIZEN TO OPPOSE IT. ------------------------------ JT ---------------------
Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 5:51PM
It's Charles Martel, not Charlemagne (he was "my" grandson), but that's beside the point.
You might want to look up and read about the Valkyrie conspiracy. The first three names were participants; the latter three were the toadies who backed the Leader.
The Republic is beset by domestic enemies as it has been at no other time because those enemies now comprise the government itself. The reason I cited those officers was to suggest that too many of ours, at the moment of crisis, will prove to be time servers more concerned with their careers than their oaths.
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Doug| 6.30.10 @ 11:45AM
Obama's attitude toward Israel is a disgrace to our nation. I hope that the Israeli people realize that the American people are with them, despite the hatred and cowardice of our co-called "leaders."
God Bless Israel!
Armchair General| 6.30.10 @ 12:41PM
So, it's come to this. This is how the civilized world ends. Obama wins, we die.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 12:45PM
Jed,
I read your column very early this morning. I chose to let the ideas settle in my mind a while before commenting.
I think your time-line is a little off, but the scenario is too probable. Honestly, I believe our "regime" would almost... almost ...welcome an all out war between Israel and her avowed murderors.
I believe mr obama would strain his neck holding his chin high enough to stay "above the fray".
In my opinion, obama will be rendered totally irrelevant if that war begins in earnest....both internationally .....and politically here at home.
His so-called "international backstop" (Biden), is merely a sad joke.
Jed, you do realize that you have set the stage in your scenario.......for Armegeddon?
You fools here may scroll down now.
(Fool: def. "a man who says in his heart..."there is no God". Psalms 14:1)
Well, Jed I am not on the program committee. I surely don't know if this is the run-up to Armegeddon. I am on the welcoming committee.
("Even so, Lord, come quickly"!)
As you know, some Christians read that we Christians, saved by Grace, will meet Jesus in the air before all of that yucky stuff happens.
Some Christians feel that perhaps we might have to endure the whole mess...with faith and courage.
I'm sure I don't know, though I have spent some serious time over 40 years reading the several "eschatologies" in the Bible. (that means "the last days" folks).
I do wonder... with my sorry ass failures over a life time, if I am destined to go through the whole mess.
Whatever...I stand with Israel!!!!!
You know, Jed, I wonder seriously if "Rush" is the Isaiah of our day. Our prophet if you will, in the sense that Old Testament prophets were primarily "FORTH-TELLERS" rather than "fore-tellers".
I simply stand in awe of his ability to articulate the issues of good versus evil.... and "stupid versus wise".
I can see a day when some our own troops in the middle east...break ranks...and join Israel's efforts.
God bless 'em.
I can see a day when orders to them from obama are "garbled".
Thank you again, sir, for gazing with me into the future.
Stephanie| 6.30.10 @ 1:03PM
God bless you Ken. I'm with you.
Maddox| 6.30.10 @ 2:07PM
Many of us feel the passion for our country that is expressed so well by Rush and you, Ken.
We may lack the right words but we stand with Israel and will the fight to keep The United States free. November is crucial.
May GOD, help us all.
Margie| 6.30.10 @ 3:55PM
I fully agree. Thank God for Rush and Ken and all the good guys.
ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 2:32PM
I'm with you too Ken. God bless us all!
I happen to be one of those Christians who believes we will meet Jesus in the air...and if you belong to Him (saved by grace) you won't be here to for the yucky stuff. Because...first, there is now no condenation to those who are in Christ Jesus Rom 8:1 and lastly, the church is mentioned over and over in Rev. chpts 1-4. No more mention of the church after chpt 4. , and hell doesn't break loose until after chpt 4. However, like you, no matter where I am when those dreadful days begin, I know that Jesus Christ is on my side and I will not be ashamed of Him....
AND GOD BLESS ISRAEL!
Believer| 6.30.10 @ 3:46PM
Shortnsweet-Just wanted to comment on your
views on the rapture, The modern Church didnt
even preach on the rapture until 1830 when a women in Ireland decided to enlighten the Church. Before that time it was assumed that Christians would have to give their lives like the
millions did in the first couple century's. The real
rapture is in the book of Matthew chapter 13 vs. 28 thru 30. Stop listening to foolish men and prepare for hard times.
ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 4:10PM
Note taken...
Like is said before, no matter where I am when those dreadful times arrive, I know that Christ Jesus is on my side.
God Bless You Sir!
J Rich| 7.1.10 @ 12:41AM
I think theway obama has handled the oil spill is a good indication how he will handle any crisis and especially what is being talked about here.
God bless Israel
NavyBrat| 6.30.10 @ 2:03PM
Israel will surely go down swinging, if they are to go down at all. I'm hoping that, should war break out, the Jews here in this country will ensure that Obama doesn't sit & just let it happen. As a Jew myself, the self destructive love & willfull ignorance displayed by my liberal fellow Jews in relation to all things Obama & liberal is galling to no end. This man HATES us, folks. Be we Jews or Christians. The signs are all there for those who have eyes & ears.
An interesting article from today's American Thinker on why Israel faces a tough road. A must read:
http://www.americanthinker.com.....pt_th.html
Big Elk| 6.30.10 @ 2:17PM
While they're at it the Israelis should nuke Teheran, Mecca and the rest of the mohammedan dog's and pig's cities. Obama won't do a thing, he's not even an American, and he promised to cover mohammedans' backs while he was on his Steppinfetchit tour of barbaric mohammedan countries.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 2:44PM
Navy Brat... read it already. but thanks.
Big Elk,
There is no question but that they will nuke...evil.... even if it means another "Masada"......and even if it means Washington DC.
Most serious geo-political folks believe Israel has some two hundred nukes.
Folks, there ain't enough muslim enemies to absorb all those nukes in the mid-east.
Twenty nukes would end the muslim "national" enemies of Israel.
Hmmmmmmm.
DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 3:44PM
Saddam knew what value the Quaker Gun was to deterring aggressive action. Too bad for him he went up against someone who called the bluff. Now, Saddam can't blame the game in which he participated, and now neither can the Teheran or Washington regimes if Israel decides to call the bluff.
Melvin| 6.30.10 @ 3:50PM
It would be quite the parking lot wouldn't it?
DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 5:37PM
Israel took a desert and made something of it. A parking lot would be less a challenge.
Chairman Nobombo| 6.30.10 @ 3:53PM
For more than 200 years the Lord has blessed America, but now we have this Obami in the White House, the Lord is telling us something.
Daniel| 6.30.10 @ 4:21PM
Armageddon is still in the distant future. It will NOT be simply between Israel and Iran. Just, like the 6 day war, a lot of people thought it was all over for Israel. Didn't happen. This particular war between Israel and Iran has the blessings of a number of other Arab States for Israel to win. After all, the Iranians are not Arab, they are Persians. The Arabs fear Iran, that if they succeed against Israel, their Arab States would be next to come under the heel of Iran. The Royal Family of Saudi Arabia, in no way, wants Iran to succeed against Israel and neither does Europe or the US. No, the time for Armageddon is not yet arrived. God bless Israel!
Clinton nee Publius| 6.30.10 @ 4:36PM
The plan is called Tishah B’Av. Tishah B’Av is a combined air and sea-based attack upon the Islamic Republic of Iran. The date for the attack is set for the Tishah B’Av holiday - the date that marks the holiday marking the destruction of the First Temple of Jerusalem and Second Temple of Jerusalem by the Roman Empire.
The date is July 19th of THIS year.
The first phase is to use IAF aircraft to destroy all Iranian Air Force planes and gain air superiority over all Iranian airspace for a period of 24 to 36 hours. During this time, it will leak out that the Iranians will have to submit to Israeli inspections or face nuclear annihilation.
The Israelis will intentionally limit the timetable because they know they cannot hold open the air corridor for an extended period and they know Iran's leaders will reject all offers of mediation. They know they will have to execute the second phase.
The second phase of the plan is to use six (6) low-yield, air-burst 125 kiloton tactical nuclear weapons (lob-tossed bombs) to destroy the main population centers around the key nuclear facilities and destroy the city center of Tehran. This will be followed by intensive negotiations to prevent a ground war from resulting in the occupation of Iran. The political dynamic is to demonstrate that millions will die if the nuclear program goes forward and anyone who attacks Israel (think Syria) will be destroyed with low-yield tactical nuclear weapons.
Like Masada, the plan is desperate, but desperate times call for bold plans.
You heard it here first. 36 hour attack plan followed by a nuclear strike. There are no choices in this matter. America sealed the fate of Iran by turning its back on Israel.
Navig8r| 6.30.10 @ 4:57PM
The story left out the special forces on the ground. I suspect they will do more than call in air strikes. You will see some coordinated assasinations and raids from the ground.
I fear that when backed against the wall with not even the U.S. at their backs, the Israelis would be forced to use their nukes. I guess we could still drill for oil thru glass, but that would make some nasty fallout.
Paulie4| 6.30.10 @ 5:07PM
Obama and gang seem unable to distinguish between good and evil and this is a profound weakness. Why Jews in the U.S. support the Democrats is a mystery to me. Israel’s best friend these days are conservative Republicans.
William R| 6.30.10 @ 7:03PM
Israel's Suicidal Course
http://amconmag.com/article/2010/aug/01/00010/
Rick Z| 6.30.10 @ 7:14PM
... Israel may choose to eliminate Western support for Muslim states by removing the Oil Card ---
Destroying the Middle East oil wells with dirty nukes will make them too radioactive to work for thousands of years.
Minimal loss of life, outside oil field workers. ... .... No benefit to support the former oil producers who are out of business.
Rick Z| 6.30.10 @ 7:14PM
... Israel may choose to eliminate Western support for Muslim states by removing the Oil Card ---
Destroying the Middle East oil wells with dirty nukes will make them too radioactive to work for thousands of years.
Minimal loss of life, outside oil field workers. ... .... No benefit to support the former oil producers who are out of business.
Gerald Stephens| 6.30.10 @ 8:01PM
Crystal Ball...
Crystal balls are difficult to come by. I got mine in a pawn shop but it did come with a partial warranty printed in Yiddish.
Last I looked it appeared as though America awakened sometime prior to November 2010, rubbed the sleep from her eyes, and eradicated every progressive found trolling the polling stations. I also saw some lop eared fool being not so gently escorted from a playground.
There was also dramatic evidence like our ‘O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave…’, of a battle flag showing a big blue star on a white field flying over a parking lot of all places.
Then too there were banners, oh so many fluttering banners, written in some old world language, something like, E Pluribus Unum.
The crystal then blazed with brilliant light and golden lettering, …If Israel is forced to strike in self defense the victory will be so great as to humble all deniers.
So sayeth Christ, Abraham, and all the rest of the good guys.
Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 8:02PM
Rick Z,
Sadly, nukes are not magical. Sand does not retain radioactivity very well. Move the new well over a half a mile and you are back to the oil. (directional drilling)....in six months.
Air-bursts produce no radioactivity, and ground bursts don't give you much bang, (footprint), on the ground.
Picture a tennis ball. Sitting on a flat surface, a very tiny portion of the tennis ball touches the ground. (small foot-print).
Now,
cut the tennis ball in half and set the hollow side on the flat surface. (huge comparative footprint). That is the footprint of an air-burst.
PS: the oil is thousands of feet below bedrock...no radioactivity whatsoever.
The nukes will be used on the oil-tanker-terminals....three or four years to rebuild them. I know. I built them.
Norm Worrell| 6.30.10 @ 9:51PM
No! You are not alone.
Osamas Pajamas| 7.1.10 @ 1:37AM
An Israeli attack on Iran would be a good time to kill Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez and his ruling military clique, as he has been cooperating with the Russians and Iranians on a strike force capable of hitting the soft underbelly of the USA. Unfortunately, the Joint Chiefs of Staff would first have to arrest Barak Hushpuppy OhBummer and deport him over Mecca without a parachute, and put a leash and a gag on VP Biteme.
mdeleine7| 7.1.10 @ 2:26AM
Fascinating scenario and comments !! Yes , I can feel the tension being racheted up . I trust in the Lord of Israel and His Word in the Bible . Israel will NOT be destroyed . However , I fear for the US . The Government is most definitely with the Forces of Evil . May God protect all those good people there !!!
madeleine7| 7.1.10 @ 2:52AM
I forgot to add - Please pray that Israel will trust in G-D and not falter . Also , that He may protect and bless US and guide people to find a viable solution for the horrendous Gulf Coast tragedy.
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Wayne| 7.1.10 @ 12:45PM
Nice scenario save one thing, why do you and all of the other writers on this subject ignore Israeli use of their nuclear arsenal?
Why is it that EVERYONE seems to accept that psycho's like Iran are willing to use nukes but that no one else would?
blupheonix| 7.1.10 @ 12:50PM
Are you kidding me???
If Israel strikes Iran, then the time has come to strike out at Israel... That country is THE major source of unrest in the mid east, and MUST be dealt with in the harshest way possible.... I say we turn it into a big glass parking lot! Yes, fuck Israeli war mongers! But lets not forget who is also culpable if Israel hits Iran, The USA has been supplying Israel for YEARS, in $ and high tech weapons. Why? Because Americans want JESUS to return, and think that by (falsely) supporting Israeli Jews, that JESUS will rise from the dead, and bring everyone ham sandwiches... So by all means, start world war 3... But expect, not a Jew to remain on earth if that happens... Why doesn't The US attack a real criminal, like Oh, SAUDI ARABIA?!!! OR North KoreA... Fucking pussies... Thats why. And you also have to play for your Jewish masters also, we all know that.... PS, FUCK ISRAEL!
Clinton nee Publius| 7.1.10 @ 7:26PM
At least you have a balanced perspective that is not driven by psychopathic anti-Semitism.
You're right though, as the only democracy in the Middle East through all those years, Israel was always a big troublemaker. Heck, that whole Yom Kippur War launched by Egypt and Syria was really an Israeli trick so they could destroy Egypt and Syria.
Man, put down the pipe...
shipley130| 7.1.10 @ 1:01PM
I hope a war such as this doesn't break out during Obama's rule. He is such a moron that even our most talented generals probably can't stop the madness.
blupheonix| 7.1.10 @ 1:01PM
Now I KNOW you are all crazy after reading comments... All of you really want to go to war with Iran don't you! Well, I just hope your Military, otherwise you better sign the hell up right now, and stop paying in lipservice.. Just proves that Israel operates without the constraints that other countries have to work under. Also I like how Israel is NEVER at fault, and how Americans have been brainwashed to accept that line... Tell you what, do I have the right to defend myself against radical Jews?? To prevent a world war? Who says the next Hitler can't be a Jew?
PS. Fuck Israel.
Nick| 7.1.10 @ 1:39PM
Go away, anti-Semite pig!
JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 2:08PM
BP, It's clear that you are a MUSLIM. Let me simply say this ... The nation of Israel is located where it once was and, more importantly, where GOD said it WOULD BE AGAIN.
To begin with from it's inceptioin, Israel has been attacked by Arab Moslem nations and factions. It was the ARAB NATIONS that started this. Yes, this WILL eventually end up in a NUCLEAR WAR which will spell the END of most of the MOSLEM peoples since most of them live in the MIDDLE EAST. Israel will NOT use NUKES first but, WILL RETALIATE in such a way as to completely make certain that ALL of it's problems are ELIMINATED. You know this IS the truth . So, I would think that IF you had family or, friends in the Middle East that you would want them to LIVE , NOT DIE.
This ongoing campaign by MUSLIMS to seize control of the entire world simply WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Now, go back into the very FAR distant past and take a good look. There WAS A NUCLEAR WAR maybe 20,000 or more years ago and, it knocked humanity from our lofty perch down to nearly caveman status. It's taken us this long to almost regain our original perch. We're NOT there yet but, close.
Now, guess where that NUCLEAR WAR of OLD was located ... IN INDIA, PAKISTAN, parts of CHINA and, the MIDDLE EAST.
You see, events DO happen to replay themselves IF WE DO NOT LEARN THE LESSONS OF HISTORY. IN THIS CASE, I MEAN WE SHOULD ALL LEARN TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, PERIOD. -------- JT --------
P.S. Americans have NOT been brainwashed like you have said. We can make decisions for ourselves and, in the case of Israel vs. the Arab nations that seek to utterly destroy it, we CAN see QUITE CLEARLY who is to BLAME.
Israel has tried to live peacefully with it's neighbors except that such neighbors as HEZBOLLAH and HAMAS, among others, have stated that their intention is to completely destroy the nation of Israel AND it's people and, have it seems been completely dedicated to trying to do just that. However, they WILL fail ... these ARAB NAZI ISLAMO-FASCISTS WILL FAIL and, worse, they WILL bring ALL of the rest of the MOSLEM world down with them. Just wait and see. With the first nuke dropped by Iran, it will be perceived to be the Moslems who have done this despicable deed and, the WORLD will RISE UP and then the Moslems will know what the word GENOCIDE really means. ------ JT ------
Tempus Mutantis| 7.1.10 @ 2:55PM
Insanity can hit a whole people; we saw that under Schickelgruber.Now The Khazars are at it again; atacking their neighbours viciously and digging their own graves,again. Free yourself of the Robber-Baron, yes Rotschild ,who owns you- and all Central /National banks in the world(save 7). Calm down , you are NOT going to conquer the Universe (see :HUBBLE) Only billions of moniesspent on intene,psychological popaganda, has corruptd the minds of the people;nobody is so blood-thirsty and ignorant of what "nuking" does to the Planet ,by nature, even Khazars can bcome human-if they act as such.-By the way; ordeering GOD to do this and that does NOT work.
Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 8:16PM
Another missive from the "palestinian" corner.
Thanks, anti-semite, now crawl back in your hole.
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T.D.Foster| 7.1.10 @ 3:35PM
Who is writing all this nonsense about "god" and "ezekiel"?Are there still people out there who actually believe this guff?And the scenario as portrayed by Babbib-or should that read Baboon? is redolent of the writings of Lovecraft et al.Why is it always "brave little Israel"-with two hundred nuclear weapons-and the bullying arab nations.I say a plague on both their houses!
Ron Lewenberg| 7.1.10 @ 8:35PM
The author forgets taht Israel has dozens of Jericho III ICBMs. Hopefully Israel has been building many more launch vehicles without nuclear warheads. The ICBMS can be used with conventional warheads of Kinetic Energy warheads (1 ton of tungsten or depleted uranium) Such a rod of heavy metal has the equivalent force of .75 Kilotons of TNT when it hits a smal area. A few of them hitting a target can cause tremendous damage even to a facility built into a mountain. Israel has many more Jericho II icbms, but these have a payload of only 500kg. This would, of course, be enough to take out an airbase or command center. Israel already uses a modified Jerocho II, the Shavit 2 to launch 800kg satellites.
Also, The Israeli air force has 16 F-15D's it modified as the Baz-2000) that would escort the strike.
bernardo| 7.1.10 @ 9:43PM
Let's hope that it will not come to war. Let us also hope that if it does, Israel will not have to do the work alone. Destroying the armed forces of the malignant government of Iran (if such must be done) is in many ways our responsibility since the failure, wrongheadedness, and criminal incompetence of an American president (Reverend Carter) led to the creation of the regime.
However I fear that with Carter II in the White House our country will do nothing and leave it to Israel to fight alone. It has been well said that one should not attribute to malice any act that can be adequately explained by stupidity. However when one notices Obama’s consistent pattern of favoring, flattering, and fawning over Russia, Venezuela, China, various anti-American Islamic despotisms, and just about any present or recent enemy of the United States while shunning, demeaning, and insulting Israel, Great Britain, Poland, the Czech Republic, and just about any reliable friend of this country, one is ever more hard pressed to get to an explanation based only on stupidity and incompetence.
If the Israelis do have to act alone, it may well for them be a total war. They might decide to hold nothing back in their strike but rather hit with maximum necessary force with whatever weapons are appropriate to the task. For total war against enemies out for total destruction demands nothing less.
As no one should want such a war, we must hope our government will finally act strongly to prevent it from happening.
Shula| 7.2.10 @ 2:17PM
The Bible calls the Israelite nation "a nation that dwells alone (Am levadad yishkon).
Every year on the seder night we say, "In every generation they arose to destroy us, yet G-d saved us from their hands. As a religious Jew I know that those who want to kill out G-d's people will try in every generation. Yet we are still here. Iran is simply the current chapter in a very long story until we merit the final redemption, may it come speedily in our time.
Reaganite71| 7.3.10 @ 1:42PM
Might an Israeli deployment of an EMP over Iran, prior to launching a defensive attack against thier nuclear program, minimize Iran's ability to counter attack?
It seems to me that would eliminate their fighter capability and destroy the microchips in their missles, yes?
David Yousif| 7.4.10 @ 6:01AM
“I WILL BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS YOU AND CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE YOU” , That was the promise of our GOD to Abraham, US has been blessed all this time simply because we stood and supported Israel , and the enemy of Israel “Arabs” they have been cursed all that time. I sure hope we will not lose GOD’s blessing by ending our support for Israel and a time where it is mostly needed.
heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 12:44AM
You insane Zionist motherfuckers. I see that you're at it again: trying to drum up support for another criminal war for Israel.
You're going to pay for getting the US to go to war YET AGAIN for that shitty little rogue state called Israel.
You Neocons are traitors and shall be treated as such. You have been warned.
Slither back into your dank little holes, you Zionist scum.
Owen K.| 7.5.10 @ 1:16AM
You sound about as hate filled as anyone I have read on these comments. So, why do you hate Israel and the Jewish people? What have they done to make you so bitter?
heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 11:38AM
Why do you hate America and White Christians so much that you want to subvert our interests to those of that criminal rogue state, Israel?
Have you no shame?
You Judaic-Christians are lunatics. No wonder you're are so easily manipulated by your Zionist masters.
Charles Martel| 7.6.10 @ 1:17PM
I am a white American Christian conservative, and I'd appreciate your expanding on which of our interests is subverted by our support for ever-beleaguered Israel. Please try to do so without the extraneous emotion and omitting the words "hate", "traitor", and "lunatic". I am truly curious as to which interest you believe would be served by our betraying an ally.
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heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 12:46AM
Fight Terrorism: Nuke Israel
solo| 7.5.10 @ 12:53PM
Heartfelt Wrote:
" Why do you hate America and White Christians so much that you want to subvert our interests to those of that criminal rogue state, Israel?
Have you no shame?
You Judaic-Christians are lunatics. No wonder you're are so easily manipulated by your Zionist masters. "
Hmmmm! The Prison Planet site must be down today.
I'll bet it's all a conspiracy by THE JOOOOOOOOS!
LOL!
Jane Marple| 7.6.10 @ 7:27PM
Put a lid on it, clownie.
Every time people like you can't answer someone's legitimate criticism to stop putting the needs of another country above those of the United States, you whine "Oy vey! Anti-semite!"
It's letting yahoos like you stifle legitimate criticism of expansionist, neo-con policies for the last ten years, that's led to the near-bankruptcy of our nation and the rest of the world to regard us with suspicion and distrust.
If America isn't first in your heart, then get the hell out. But, at least, thank you for revealing where your real loyalties lie.
Syd Chaden| 7.5.10 @ 3:06PM
Having read all of the comments to date, most of which passionately support Israel, and some of which look forward to its destruction, I am struck by the irony of the situation. Supporters of Israel primarily see Obama as the enemy of Israel and the major contributor to the danger of its destruction. There is much greater concern that Obama will order the US military to interdict an Israeli attack on Iran, than there is that Iran might successfully defend against such an attack. If that concern is warranted, and in my opinion it is, then Israel had best launch its attack now, while Obama is primarily occupied with the forthcoming elections. Israeli reliance upon an enemy for its survival will only lead to its destruction.
Enemies of Israel primarily see Zionism as the major contributor to the danger of ...of what? Certainly not to the danger to Muslims. Many, many Muslims are killed daily around the world. A very few may be killed by Israel in border skirmishes and in retaliation for rocket attacks, but by far, Muslims are killed by other Muslims. Where is the Muslim outcry? Don't those Muslims count? Zionism is a movement to locate Jews in Israel, and the Jews are there. While there are Muslims who won't accept that, and who cry for Israel to be destroyed, that hardly explains the unending killing of Muslims by other Muslims, around the world.
Honest_Bob| 7.5.10 @ 3:09PM
Unfortunately, we do have a "dog in this fight" by our bank rolling of Israel. For the most part, the "Tail" (Israel ) wags the "Dog"(US)!
The middle east is a landmine that has bankrupted our country. On one side we have our trusted ally Israel, who spies on us, has embedded operatives in our government and is all too happy to let us fight their wars for them (never forget the USS Liberty!).
On the other side we have the Islamists, who basically want us dead.
This situation will always be a Lose-Lose for the US.
Jane Marple| 7.6.10 @ 7:21PM
Gag me.
All you Israel-firsters need to make aliyah and become cannon fodder in the IDF, you're so in love with her. For pity's sake, how long has it been "patriotic" to put the need of ANY foreign country, even Israel, before your own?
Wake up! The Bible is just a bunch of stupid fairy tales, and you're going to help set the world on fire for a bunch of myths written by dirty, half-literate, psychotic shepherds 2,500 years ag?.
Watching you maudlinly fawn over Israel makes me wonder if the leftists aren't right when they call conservatives (at least you guys), the stupid party.
You people are traitors and, sadly, too stupid to even know it.
Mariela Sims| 7.6.10 @ 11:37PM
THE ONLY CRISTIAN COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHO STILL BELIEVES THAT THE ZIONIST STATE OF ISRAEL (WHO BY THE WAY KILL JESUS) IS USA, THE REST OF THE WORLD ALREADY WAKE UP!
Phillip Marlowe| 7.7.10 @ 5:14PM
I can't believe all these fooled ISRAEL-FIRSTERS here.
I'm a patriotic American -- I'm against that war-mongering, deceitful nation of Israel and all those paranoid Zionist freaks from Tel Aviv to New York.
George Washington warned us against allying ourselves with foreign nations in his farewell speech. The spineless politicians in DC are owned by these people and totally in their sway for campaign financing and fear of the owned media.
Obama and Hillary Clinton are NOT going to do one damn thing to Israel. Don't you get it? It's all orchestrated for anything sacred Israel wants and always has been.
Don't any of you know that Israel tried to sink the US Liberty and kill the entire crew in 1967?
Do you believe every damn thing you see on FOX News, or any other US mainstream news?
When the hell will you put two and two together? The rest of the world knows we always do whatever the Zionists want us to do. They OWN US.
America on the GD wrong side here! These people are going to get us into a war that will destroy the US, at the very least what's left of our economy, or maybe even a whole lot worse.
It will end up with our children dying in another country that Israel deems an enemy. They've done it before!
And all you religious people have been totally snookered by End Times brainwashing by corrupted preachers. Read the New Testament for yourselves and not from some Zionist Cliff Notes version.
“Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.” -- Revelation 3:9
Count Cherep| 7.7.10 @ 5:49PM
Read the following book by Jack Bernstein:
The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel
Excerpt:
THE CONTENTS OF THIS BOOK ARE EXPECTED TO BRING A STRONG REACTION FROM THE ZIONIST JEWS.
I am well aware of the tactics of you, my Zionist brethren, use to quiet anyone who attempts to expose any of your subversive acts.
If the person is a Gentile, you cry, "You're anti-semitic" which is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide your actions.
But, if a Jew is the person doing the exposing, you resort to other tactics.
First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution.
If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule the information and the persons giving the information.
If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination. If the author or speaker hasn't been involved in sufficient scandal you are adept at fabricating scandal against the person or persons.
If none of these are effective, you are known to resort to physical attacks.
But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong.
Read the rest:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/israel.htm
Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 6:18PM
The Above Mr. Phillip Marlowe is one of those persons that made Adolph Hitler his GOD, he blames the US for Killing innocent Germans during WW2, This Phony Patriot wrote about the German Nazis
“I swear I will not forget the crime against innocent people at Dresden. I will not forget that the US is responsible. I will not forget! I am but one small life.
Rest my unknown friends, you downtrodden and despised of this world. Though we could not speak the same language if we stood before each other, though I never knew your names, and while your faces I can only imagine, you are my departed loved ones. My heart beats for yours. My mind remembers for yours. My tears for yours…”
This Nazi dosen’t say a word about the 400,000 American Hero Soldiers that were killed by the Nazi German Devils, but writes” The political and military leadership of Britain and America knew this when they ordered the air fleets to drop unbelievable amounts of incendiaries and high-explosive bombs”
One of His followers writes” I am not fit to carry Hitler’s luggage.
For those that try to denounce Hitler, you have no idea, the man did everything humanely possibly to save the people of Germany, all that overcame him was the utter stupidity and ignorance of Americans, Russians and Brits, hand your heads in shame, and cry tears for Dresden, and swear that the blood be avenged!
Phillip Marlowe is a Nazi who claims to be an American Patriot, He already informed his Nazi comrades to comment their Nazi spew in this blog.
Phillip Marlowe| 7.7.10 @ 6:30PM
You're the phony patriot and Zionist. I'm quite certain "Clark Anderson" is the nom de plum for a STEIN something.
And besides, your knowledge of history is wrong, or you're just allowing for a little hyperbole for those too ignorant to note.
It was 400,000 plus in Europe AND the Pacific.
I also stand by my words about Dresden and afterwards, when Eisenhower purposfully allowed 1 million German POWs to starve to death.
Oh, does saying that make me out as a traitor? I don't think so, Schmo!
Akira| 7.7.10 @ 6:31PM
How could American soldiers have been killed by Nazis?
That doesn't make any sense. There were no Nazi soldiers in Pennsylvania or the Dakotas.
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YOu people are so tedious, so pathetic, so boring.
Somebody says he's opposed o the US having anything to do with The Zionist Entity, and all you can do is shout "antishemite!" "Nazi!"
Here's another Anti-Shemite Nazi for you to criticize:
U.S. Secretary of State John Quincy Adams, The House of Representatives, 1821.07.04
And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?
Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.
She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.
She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own.
She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.
She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.
But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.
She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.
She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.
The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....
She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....
[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.
Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 6:43PM
Clark Anderson.
Doesn't sound like a jewish name?
But one never can tell, as it is jews wont, to change their names, so as to fool their host, all the better to achieve their traitorous, and nefarious designs.
Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 6:18PM
"The Above Mr. Phillip Marlowe is one of those persons that made Adolph Hitler his GOD, he blames the US for Killing innocent Germans during WW2, This Phony Patriot wrote about the German Nazis"
A "Nazi"?
Far from it.
Wise to judaism's many disgusting strategies?
Definitely.
Don't be swayed by a commenter, who sees nothing wrong in murdering children for sport, (Palestine), Piracy and murder on the High Seas (Marmara),and fomenting jewish wars that your children die in, and you pay for ( Iraq, Afghanistan, soon to be Iran).
Judge for yourself.
http://incogman.wordpress.com/
http://brianakira.wordpress.com/
Everyone who is wise to the jew, is called a Nazi, by the jew.
So it goes.
Personally speaking, and based on comparison, of both philosophies, vis a vis, morality, ethics etc.
I'd rather be a Nazi than a jew!
Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 6:49PM
Quotes from the Above Nazi Phillip Marlowe blog
As I mentioned his Nazi Comrades are already here.
"We need Hitler here, wish he took over and show us the light.
America Needs Hitler NOW
America Needs Hitler NOW
Herr Hitler was right as usual. We need more today who are proud to HATE THE JEWS as he did rather than think that the salvation of the White race is in neocon Islamophobic Kosher garbage. Hitler would have been proud of Aryan Moslems like myself!
Good one Incog.
There is so much that Hitler said that are lessons and warnings to us all.Blacks, whites, browns, gentiles and yes, even jews.
I often refer to Hitler when in discussion about the current world situation.
Its usually a bad idea to drop the H-bomb to the unawakened, being as the name has become such an evil curse word thanx to the propaganda machine, but I just dont give a fuck anymore. The’ll either get it or not.
Whatever.
Time is getting short and so is my patience.
Anyway, good job posting his translated words. Hitler was a brilliant man who loved his German people. He awoke his nation to the threat of the jew. In time his name will be cleared of all the jew slant against him. He is a true hero."
Phillip Marlowe| 7.7.10 @ 7:05PM
"I often refer to Hitler when in discussion about the current world situation."
Yeah, I bet you do. Hell, you people call everyone who dares speak out as Hitlers and Nazis.
America would like to know if your type will ever shut up about it. We're sick and tired of the Nazi BULL!
You've been milking the Hitler Schtick for what, 60 years now? You've used it to steal an entire land right out from under the people who lived there (Palestinians); whom you STILL treat like dogs.
BEGONE YOU ISRAEL-FIRSTERS and "dual citizens" of Israel. You are traitors to America.
Akira| 7.7.10 @ 6:54PM
Some notes for genuine Christians.
1. If you don't know what hasbara is, please find out. It's Hebrew for "persuaion", but actually it's a Jew-State government campaign, very well-funded with US tax dollars, to start web-sites, usually as fake Christians, to start YouTube channels, to troll the Internet, often "debating" with oneself under different identities. Please keep this in mind when online.
2. Jews, as Jews, lie. They do so because Jews, as Jews, don't value truth. Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, The Truth, said to the Jews:
[John 8:44]
3. Saint Paul wrote, in his letter to the Church at Thessalonica, that the Jews are Christ-Killers:
"you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the same things those churches suffered from the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men."
The people who killed Christ have no problem killing Americans, lying about "gas chambers" and so on.
Of course Woody Allen and Roman Polanski didn't litteraly howl for Christ's execution. But spiritually, they are, every day, in all their works, Christ-Killers, because they reject Christ, reject God, reject the Truth, reject The Gospels. And they seek to converty others to join them in their own destruction.
Christ to the pharisees (i.e, rabbis):
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are."
By following these Christ-Killers, by kow-rowing to them, you are risking joing them as sons of hell, as God the Son taught.
Now, what motivates so many Jews -- such as Allen, Polanski, Al Goldstein, Henry Morganthaler, et al, to be so perverse, so twisted, so evil?
It's their cult.
We are dealing with monsters. This is just one example of many of the filth in their unholy books.
Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 55b
Editor: Rabbi Isadore Epstein.
Published under the authority of The Very Reverend Rabbi Israel Brodie, Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom.
Published by The (Jewish) Soncino Press, 1935
"A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. ... If she married a priest, she may eat of terumah ... A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife acquires her ... but he cannot divorce her until he attains his majority. He is defiled through coition with a niddah [a woman defiled by menstruation] ..."
http://www.come-and-hear.com/s.....html#PARTb
http://halakhah.com/pdf/nezikin/Sanhedrin.pdf
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"Oy Vey! It's taken out of context!" they'll say.
So here's the context: Menstruation, Bestiality, The Pox, and having to wait until a girl is three years and a day old before you can have sexual intercourse with her:
Sanhedrin 55b:
A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. The penalty of adultery may be incurred through her; [if a niddah] she defiles him who has connection with her, so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea].5 If she married a priest, she may eat of terumah;6 If any unfit person7 has a connection with her, he disqualifies her from the priesthood —8 If any of the forbidden degrees had intercourse with her, they are executed on her account,9 but she is exempt.10 Now, ‘any of the forbidden degrees’ implies even a beast: in this case, there is degradation but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught that they [including a beast] are slain on her account.11 [No, this is not conclusive, as it can be argued that] since she deliberately offended there is a stumbling-block] [though she is a minor] but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon her; now, He shewed mercy to her, but not to the animal.
Raba said: Come and hear! A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife [the former having left no issue] acquires her [as wife]. But he cannot divorce her until he attains his majority.12 He is defiled through coition with a niddah,13 so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea] — He disqualifies [a woman from the priesthood],14 but cannot enable a woman to eat [of terumah].15 He renders an animal unfit for the altar,16 and it is stoned on his account,17 and if he had intercourse with one of the degrees forbidden in the Torah, the latter is executed. Now here there is degradation, but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught: ‘It is stoned on his account.’ Since it was a deliberate offence, there is a stumbling-block, but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon him; now, He showed mercy to him, but not to the animal.
Notes
(5) A man who had sexual connection with a niddah, defiles that upon which he lies even if he does not actually touch it. But the degree of uncleanliness it thereby acquires is not the same as that of bedding upon which a niddah herself, or a person afflicted with gonorrhoea, lies. For in the latter case, the defilement is so great that the bedding in turn renders any person or utensil with which it comes into contact unclean; whilst in the former, it can only defile foodstuffs and liquids. This is the same degree of uncleanliness possessed by a garment which has lain upon, or been borne by a zab (i.e., one afflicted with issue).
(6) As the law of an Israelite's (adult) daughter who married a priest. But if she was less than three years old, although the Kiddushin accepted on her behalf by her father is valid, yet since she is sexually immature, the marriage cannot be consummated, and hence she is not thereby enabled to eat of terumah. On terumah, the priest's portion of an Israelite's produce, v. Glos.
(7) E.g., a heathen, hallal, nathin, or bastard.
(8) I.e., if a priest's daughter, or if the daughter of a Levite or Israelite married to a priest, she may not eat of terumah.
(9) If they are of those forbidden on pain of death, v. supra 53a.
(10) As she is a minor.
(11) This solves R. Hamuna's problem.
(12) For, being a minor, he has no power to release her from a bond laid upon her, in the first place, by an adult (his brother).
(13) This rendering follows the more correct text of the Mishnah, Niddah 45a, of which this is a quotation, which has umittamma beniddah (through or by a niddah), instead of the reading here: umittamma keniddah, as a niddah.
(14) V. p. 343, n. 6.
(15) If he is a priest, and has sexual connection with an Israelite's daughter with marital intent, this does not authorise her to eat of terumah, because he has no legal powers of acquisition in marriage, excepting over his levirate sister-in-law, who is already bound to him.
(16) If he committed bestiality therewith, only one witness attesting the offence, the animal is not killed, nor does it become unfit for secular use, but it may no longer be offered as a sacrifice.
(17) If his bestiality was attested by two witnesses.
4. You think of yourself as a Conservative? You complain about abortion, immigration, smut and filth on TV and movies and rap music, lies in the media? Who owns the media, my friend? Can you name any record company, Hollywood studio or Talmud-Vision channel that isn't owned by Jews? Who is behind most porn, open borders, financial corruption, and abortion? The Jew.
5. Jew is Jew.
6. God Bless You, and May He Grant You Wisdom.
Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 7:08PM
Akira the Comrade of the Nazi Phillip Marlowe
Get some More Anti Jewish Trash , Let the readers see your Hate.
God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them. Period....
Phillip Marlowe| 7.7.10 @ 7:12PM
The Zionist who gave himself the Gentile-sounding name "Clark Anderson," is already monitoring my blog, obviously from his comments.
This is what they do, work the Internet to keep real America confused by pretending to be just like them. This is how it's done in the US mainstream media, matter of fact.
WAKE THE HELL UP, AMERICA!
Here's a little something I wrote. Please take just a few minutes to read it and see where I'm coming from. Thanks!
http://incogman.wordpress.com/.....smackdown/
Akira| 7.7.10 @ 7:17PM
Re: "God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them. "
Really?
Says who?
Where did you hear that?
Or is it written down somewhere?
And what is "Israel"?
C. Paton| 7.7.10 @ 7:22PM
Nazi Phillip Marlowe
crawl back in your hole blog and take you psycho friends with you.
Phillip Marlowe| 7.7.10 @ 7:33PM
Yeah, that's right, go ahead call me a Nazi. That's SOP for you traitorous Hasbara agents to call any American who dares to comment on you people.
It's so tiresome, by now.
"All war is based on deception."
-- Sun Tzu c. 2300 B.C.
Sounds like a quote straight out of the MOSSAD handbook.
Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 7:48PM
Another jewish patsy,
calling calling goyim Nazi!
Pretty Polly, Pretty Polly!
You've been well trained.
Anybody notice how ben stein, in the banner at the top of the page, looks like he's wearing a pair of comedy groucho scnozzbrowgoggles?
I think that clears up any lingering question's as to the "slant" of this particular blog!
Dolt.
Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 7:34PM
Clarkjob Andersonfarb.
"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them. Period.... "
Is that it?
Everyone has to fight jewish wars, because jews say so?
I don't want to die, or have my children die, in jewish fomented wars, so jews can work out their neuroses as a "people", at their expense!
Is that clear?
When will you as a "people", learn to deal with your own problems in house, instead of dragging everyone else into your martial , wank fantasies, like the author of the article has done?
Don't go looking for trouble.
If you can't win a fight by yourself, don't provoke it!
When, if ever, will you tire of wholesale slaughter of non-jews?
WHEN?
There has to be something mentally WRONG with you to behave this way. NO?
Akira| 7.7.10 @ 7:45PM
A common Jew hasbarat tactic, designed to exploit the Christian "goyim", is to throw out this bizarre maxim:
"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them."
Naive people are led to believe that this is some sort of Biblical injunction. You'll notice that unlike most Biblical citation, there's no reference to Book, Chapter, Verse.
That's because there's no such Biblical quote or reference.
Here's what it says at Genesis 12: 1-3:
"Now the LORD said to Abram [later changes to Abraham], 'Go forth from your country, and from your relatives, and from your father's house, to the land which I will show you; And I will make you a great nation, and I will bless you, and make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."
So, you see, God said that He would bless those who bless Abraham, and curse those who curse Abraham. There's nothing there about "Israel" or "the people of Israewl" And definitely nothing about Jews, since there were no Jews at that time.
Now, if someone should say that the "great nation" referred to is Israel, well, who are the descendents of Abraham?
Abraham is the founding patriarch of the Israelites, Ishmaelites (> Arabs), Edomites, and the Midianites and kindred peoples, according to the book of Genesis.
Anyway, most Americans believe that their government should be secular, so such theological arguments shouldn't be guiding government policy.
Furthermore, most American Christians or Jews don't take the book of Genesis literally, so it's irrational and political to simply pick and choose passages that suit one's temporal purpose (and, as already shown, the passage doesn't even refer to either Israel or Jews.)
Now what is "Israel"?
One meaning of Israel: Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham.
The Christian understanding of "Israel" has always been that The Church is Israel, since the Church is The Body of Christ, and Christ is The Word of God, the Logos; while the Jews are those who rejected Christ.
This state in Occupied Palestine, this Jewish State, this Zionist Entity, is just a political entity. Even if you can't see that it's a foul and corrupt and bloody state -- even if you like or admire it for some reason -- it is obviously not Israel in the spiritual sense. It's just another rotten temporal political creation.
So you see, this is just one more example of how the Jews lie, and how they exploit the innocent.
Akira| 7.7.10 @ 8:00PM
Note that quoted above, in the introduction to the article is:
"All war is based on deception."
-- Sun Tzu c. 2300 B.C.
And what is the motto of Mossad?
Deception. Subversion. Deceit. Lies. "You are of your father the devil."
To any genuine readers here:
This site is a vehicle of deception. These people in this cave are just lying in wait for one such as you, hoping they will be able to deceive you, to draw you into their web of deceit.
It's the same with the "Dems". The Raps, the Dems, Right, Left, Libs, and so on: deception. A play, a game, designed to get you to run up and down the field while the puppet masters wait for you to exhaust yourself.
And then?
They eat you.
Dick Stallion| 7.7.10 @ 8:20PM
"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them."
Even if Israel is run by a bloodthirsty criminal network?!
Count Cherep| 7.7.10 @ 8:31PM
The following book, written by a former US Counter Intelligence Officer, reveals the agenda of International Jewry.
The Ultimate World Order
— as Pictured in “The Jewish Utopia”
By Robert H. Williams
Excerpt:
If the Communists think they are going to conquer all the nations and set up a world government under a dictator of their own choosing they may be in for a surprise. For their parent, the sect which originally launched the Communist movement as an offshoot to accomplish a specific and temporary purpose, has plans for an ultimate world order of its own; and this sect, commonly called Zionist, now vastly overshadows the much cruder Communist machine in skill, finance, organization and influence.
The Communist plan for rubbing out all national, religious, cultural and racial lines and submerging the world in formless, characterless chaos for easy domination is grandiose enough. To say that there is still another, more grandiose plan beyond that for which the Communist machine was set up is indeed to challenge the credulity of most of us, especially of us Anglo-Saxons who are too busy with our humdrum routines to pull the
propaganda curtain aside and see the giant hiding there.
http://iamthewitness.com/books.....a-1957.pdf
Flanders| 7.7.10 @ 8:49PM
From the external resoures section at Source Watch, we find a description of the tactics used by "Clark Anderson". We later find a description of the program employed by the author, or perhaps it is better stated as a program employing the author.
"Quote: "The Hasbara Handbook prescribes fascinating instructions on attacking the messenger and avoiding the message at all costs ‘in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote’ their cause. In a section entitled ‘Name Calling,’ Israel's Jewish Agency writes, ‘Creating negative connotations by name calling is done to try and get the audience to reject a person or idea on the basis of negative associations, without allowing a real examination of that person or idea."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hasbara
Here is the Source Watch info about the author, Jed Babbin, which includes the information that Babbin was, and presumably still is, a part of a Pentagon program, "to recruit "key influentials" to help sell a wary public on "a possible Iraq invasion." [Cannot post the link due to comment requirements, but you can search]
You can also find him listed in the second alphabetical listing section in this 04-01-2010, 06:50 PM comment which lists Babbin as an Israeli Hasbara author (Jed Babbin, under J).
http://www.nwn-forum.co.uk/arc.....-3141.html
The link to the source is in the introductory comment. How do Americans like being given propaganda in the guise of regular news and opinion. It happens to us all of the time and at first it was Israel and now it is Israel supporters within our own government who is doing it to us. That is NOT free speech and not from a free press. Wake up and see what is actually going on. The vital interests of the US is at stake, and depends largely on your ability to view facts from the standpoint of those interests, and we should not be operating for the vital or financial interests of Israel and their paid supporters at the expense of our country.
Anonymous| 7.7.10 @ 11:36PM
"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those curses them!"
Which god are you pertaining to? Have you considered that the god of the murderers who occupy Israel today is actually Lucifer? Yes, the Israelis worship Satan himself!
How can anyone bless a state loaded with an alien race (Khazars) who have removed by force the true and original occupants of the area, the Palestinians, and wants only war with its neighbors, and all of mankind?
And by the way...How can anyone actually believe this garbage about Iran? Iran has signed the NPT treaty which the evil state of Israel has absolutely NOT. Iran does NOT possess nuclear weapons, but the evil state of Israel does (several hundred in fact). Iran has not invaded or caused a war with anyone for over a thousand years (unlike the evil state of Israel). Iran is following all the guidelines set by the IAEA for its peaceful Nuclear power plant development (unlike Israel with its criminal Dimona breeder reactor for nuclear weapons). Iran does not practice racism (unlike Israel against the Palestinians and Christians). Iran has NEVER said it wanted to wipe Israel off the map as falsely put out by the Zionist Jewish controlled sick twisted MSM..... I could go on and on......
How many more lies and untruths must you put up about the criminal state of Israel? If you love that nation so much... Why not quit being a heinous dual citizen in the United States, and move to your cherished Zionist dreamland?
Phillip Marlowe| 7.7.10 @ 11:47PM
Hasbara agent, Babbin, is feeding us the Israeli line, using the Tom Clancy schtick, so we think the plucky little Israelis will be doing the job America should.
Cute bit of Zionist media propagandizing. When will Americans figure out these people? When more body bags land at Dover?
Akira| 7.8.10 @ 8:39AM
Who conspired to unite the USA with all of Latin America:
Brother Washington
Brother Jefferson
Brother Franklin
This is an example of how unbelievably stupid Americans are, and how rancid the USA is. Most Americans don't even know that the USA was intended to cover all of the Americas.
This was the intention of the "founding fathers" of the USA, Mexico, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Boliva, Cuba, Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil, etc.
And then it was intended to be subsumed into the Masonic UN.
One of the reasons Latin America is so messed up is because its leaders have been even more Masonic than the US's. So, as the US becomes ever more Hispanic, and as the borders become ever-more fictitious, expect the US to become more Masonic.
With an even more Masonic society, expect MORE:
Oligarchic control
Brainwashing
Jewish power
Corruption
Racial tensions
Multiculturalism
Anti-Christian activities and propaganda
Materialism
Idolatry
Queerism
... And all the other phenomena associated with Slavemasonry.
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One of the things you won't hear in arguments about who was better or worse between Allende and Pinochet: They both belonged to the same Masonic Lodges.
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Mexico has had even more Masonic leaders than the US has had. And unlike in the US, where many presidents have just been puppets, those Mexican Masonic leaders actually exercised power.
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Every Latin American "independence" or revolutionary "icon" has been a Slavemason:
O'Higgins, Marti, Miranda,San Martin, Castro, Bolivar, Chavez, "Che". etc.
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The goal of North and South America's Masonic leaders from the very beginning of the "revolutionary" movement has been to unify all of the Americas under Masonic, oligarchic rule, as just one phase in the creation of a Jew World Order.
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From the Masons of California [ http://www.calodges.org/ncrl/miranda.html ]:
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GENERAL FRANCISCO DE MIRANDA FATHER OF REVOLUTIONARY MASONRY IN LATIN AMERICA
By: Carlos Antonio Martinez, Jr.
Before the world even heard of Colossal Revolutionaries, such as: Bro:. Augusto "Cesar" Sandino, Farabundo Marti and/or Ernesto "Che" Guevara, men whose heroic struggles and ultimate sacrifice for Freedom, Justice and Equality went beyond the territorial limits of their own countries of birth, Latin America was able to look up to the towering figure of its First Revolutionary Leader Without Borders, our Illustrious Brother, Don Francisco De Miranda.
The Father of Latin American Revolutionary Masonry and Precursor of South American Independence (as Miranda was/is commonly known) inspired the foundation of "The Most Worthy Lodge of Rational Knights of Lautaro", which, operated in Cadiz, Spain, and where some of the most notable Founding Fathers of the yet to be born South American Republics, such as: Simon Bolivar, Jose De San Martin and Bernardo O'Higgins, were initiated into the Craft. ... Miranda was able to plant the seeds of Free-Masonry in almost every country where he lived.
Various North American and French Historians [assert that his] initiation...took place in Philadelphia in the year 1783, at a Lodge, which was frequently visited by our equally Illustrious French Brother, General Lafayette.
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The archives of the Lodge where Miranda received the Masonic Light were lost. What is amply known, however, is that Lafayette was his Principal Recommender or "Godfather of Initiation". There are also numerous references citing his constant visits to Lodges in New York, and his fraternal meetings with George Washington at a number of Masonic gatherings.
And it is precisely for that uncertainty concerning the day of Miranda's initiation in Philadelphia, that some of the most orthodox historians have shed much doubt over the Precursor's Masonic Induction taking place in the United States. ... However, posterior investigations to the publications of two volumes by Americo Carniccelli give plenty of evidence of the contacts between Lafayette and Miranda, and, which, culminated in the latter's initiation in a Lodge in Philadelphia, in the year 1783.
Other investigators assert that Miranda was initiated in Paris, France, in the year 1797, months prior to his return to London.
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[In] various English News Papers in 1785...Miranda is mentioned to having been seen avidly engaging in a number of Masonic Convivials with London's foremost Intellectuals and Nobles.
After considering all the available evidence and most appealing theories, a british historian concluded that Miranda was initiated in Philadelphia, in 1783; was passed to the Degree of Fellow-Craft in London, in 1785; and raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason in Paris, in 1790. This chronology seems to be in more affinity with the Truth, for it keeps an accurate relation with the General's constant journeys through those countries.
In 1798, while in London, he founded the Lodge "La Gran Reunion Americana", or, as translated into English "The Great American Reunion".
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Miranda conferred the Degree of Master solely to those who excelled in their intellectual capacities and were known for their Fervent Love to Freedom and to the Cause of American Independence. At the end of their oaths and obligations the newly raised Master Masons stated a special clause, which ended with the phrase: "thus I shall repudiate and combat all tyrans and tyrannies."
The true labors of "The Great American Reunion", in fact, did not revolve around Masonic Symbology and Catechism, as much as they did, around the French Revolution and the necessity to liberate the Spanish Colonies of America.
And, that particular characteristic, is precisely what Orthodox Masons criticize about Miranda. They assert that he purposely ignored the rituals and the proper conduction of ceremonies, with the objective of creating "Clandestine Subversive Cells" that ultimately contributed to the establishment of a republican system, and a reform in the social structure of the colonies he wished to liberate.
What today's Masonic Historians and/or Critics of Miranda neglect to mention, choose to omit, or, simply ignore in their "enlightened account" of past events and/or opinions, is that in those days, every single Masonic Freedom Fighter gave avid priority, within the walls of their own Masonic Temples, to the discussion of tactics and strategies on the struggles they were engaging in.
At that moment in time, NO adherence to any Masonic Ritual and/or Precept was more important, than to live up to the Masonic Principle and Commandment of fighting to the death for the Sovereignty of the People. And, that, is exactly what our fore-brothers of "The Great American Reunion" did!
It is note-worthy to add, at this time, that according to the Bolivian Masonic Historian, Bro:. Angel Salas, the Grand Marshall of Ayacucho, Bro:. Antonio Jose De Sucre, used to discuss and plan his project of government during "Special Tiled Meetings" at the Masonic Temple of Chuquisaca.
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Unfortunately, for Miranda, his detractors keep on surfacing to this very day. It seems as though they cannot forgive him for being the son of a humble Canary Islander, and for never formalizing his relationships with the European Nobility, notwithstanding his stature, admirable culture and military merits earned in the battlefield.
As mentioned earlier, Miranda was the Intellectual Creator and Principal Founder of "The Most Worthy Lodge of Rational Knights of Lautaro". At the end of 1785, while forcibly over-staying in London, due to having a prize put on his head by the Spanish Crown, he suggested for the historic Lodge the name of "Lautaro" in homage to the Araucanian (Chilean) Leader who defeated the Spanish Conquistador Valdivia in 1554.
During the subsequent period comprehended between 1807 and 1811, a number of affiliated Lodges began their labors in the Spanish cities of Cadiz and Madrid. Among their chartered members we find the names of the following Freemasons and Notables:
- Jose De Gurruchaga
- Santiago Marino
- Andres Bello
- Luis Lopez Melendez
- Simon Bolivar
- Jose Maria Caro
- Bernardo O'Higgins
- Jose Miguel Carrera
- Juan Pablo Fretes
- Jose De San Martin
- Tomas Guido
- Jose Cortes De Madariaga
- Francisco Isnardi
In 1812, the first affiliated "Lautaro Lodge" was established in American soil. This ultra secretive Masonic Lodge was instituted and headquartered in Buenos Aires (Argentina) by San Martin, Alvear and Zapiola. It had as its prime objective to struggle for the achievement of continental independence, by succeeding in the military arena, and by insuring that all like-minded politicians and patriots gave it their full backing and support. Among its founding members we find the following names:
- Jose De San Martin
- Carlos Maria De Alvear
- Jose Matias Zapiola
- Ramon Eduardo De Anchoris
- Bernardo De Monteagudo
- Juan Martin De Pueyrredon
- Antonio Alvarez Jonte
- Nicolas Rodriguez Pena
- Julian Alvarez
After issuing charters to a considerable number of affiliated Lodges in almost every important South American city, the "Lautaro Masonic Lodges" expanded their original aim to creating virtual independent governments all throughout Latin America. Given their character of "Secret Fraternal Organizations", these Lodges were able to effectively create outstanding revolutionary networks in Chile, Argentina, Venezuela, Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, and even Brasil.
On March 12, 1817, immediately after the patriotic triumph in the Battle of Chacabuco, the "Grand Masonic Lodge of Lautaro" was duly established in Santiago. Their principal founders were our Illustrious Brothers, General Jose De San Martin and Bernardo O'Higgins, whom, appears to have been the sole architect of the Mother Constitution of "The First Masonic Grand Lodge of Lautaro" with headquarters in Chile.
Aside from San Martin and O'Higgins, some of their most distinguished chartered members included:
- Tomas Guido
- Jose Antonio Balcarce
- Jose Ignacio Zenteno
- Juan Gregorio Las Heras
- Ramon Freire
- Manuel Blanco Encalada
- Miguel Zanartu
- Ramon Arriagada
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Add to these Hispanic Slavemasons the names of their English, French, Scottish, Dutch, Jewish and German Lodge brothers who established the "United States of America", and you have the entire Masonic foundations for The American Union currently taking shape.
This is why illegal immigration across the southern border will not be stopped.
This is why the US is constantly engaged in wars and promoting perpetual global revolution.
Because the USA is and has always been a Masonic state, and was intended from the beginning to serve the interests of Masonic domination of the globe. And Masons are slaves to Jews. And Masons want to establish a New World Order, which is actually a Jew World Order.
Charles Martel| 7.8.10 @ 1:37PM
You people are disgusting, and your screeds are nothing more than anti-Jewish pornography. No one here is interested in watching you expose your virulent bone-chilling hate. Go away, and never return.
I mean it. Go back to your own Sand-Nazi blogs.
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Legion Aire| 7.8.10 @ 2:16PM
While hating jews for the simple fact that they are jews may not plausible to many it goes without saying that the jews are the main cause of all the hardships they face and have faced. Their solidarity within their own group while perpetuating the destruction of another cannot go without notice.
It is unlawful for a jew to marry a non jew in their own country, but here in America it is the jew that owns the media that is putting it out that we as whites must assimilate with all other races if we don't want to be construed as racist.
They advertise race mixing on a daily basis and yet find it to be so disgusting themselves that they have made laws against such actions. They demand that equal rights must be enforced as long as it is only on the benefit of non-whites. Whites are an unprotected class as far as hate crimes go.
As far as the arabs dancing in the streets on Sept.11 I do believe we arrested a group of Mossad agents dancing and filming the buildings collapse. So the jews have a way of spinning that little fiction around as well.
They have been the cause of most of the terrorism this nation has faced be it in egypt in the 40's and 50's up to the bombings of our embassies. You can cover it up with all your little "it was the arabs bullshit all you want" The American people are waking up to your kind of subversive behavior and this nation will get put on the list of all the other nations who have gotten sick of your ways and expelled you from our lands.
Can it be that it is simply antisemitism that has made you unwelcome in every nation you have tried to call home? Or is there some underlying circumstance that is equatable in all these scenarios? How can it be called antisemitism when you aren't even descendants of semites? The majority of zionist jews are ashkenazi jews to begin with. You are converts to that faith in the 6th century and you follow the talmud instead of the torah.
Even if you have the ability to dupe the majority of Americans into believing you are the chosen there are many more who know the real truth and the truth does not need to hide behind laws to protect it from ever coming out.
Did 6 million really die? If so why do you need to fear the question and make it illegal to even question it? If the halocost was so horrible you think the average jew would be sickened by the typical jews use of such to profit.
Charles Martel| 7.8.10 @ 6:25PM
Blame the victim: good idea, or at least of a piece with all previous efforts.
And there is only one kind of person peddling the Dancing Mossad myth. That kind of person is well represented in this thread. Fortunately, thinking people know better.
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Legion Aire| 7.8.10 @ 6:39PM
Typical of the jew to always play the victim. There is only one kind of person peddling the dancing mossad myth?
An excerpt from your own countries newspaper
http://www.haaretz.com/print-e.....dy-1.70005
Makes me wonder how they knew to be there filming in the first place. Maybe we should trust a group known to lie and cheat when caught red handed as opposed to our own police right?
posterchild| 7.9.10 @ 12:37AM
Anyone that plainly exposes the Zionist is labeled a hater, anti-semite or Naziii; but in turn can't provide reasons for doing so other than to smear anyone with an opposing view. Nice labels. "Much better than antiChrist.
little guy| 7.9.10 @ 4:04PM
The American Spectator is obviously a JIDF disinformation operation.
Legion Aire| 7.9.10 @ 4:50PM
Mr. Martel,
I am not blaming anyone, I am asking poignant questions and would like a response which does not include name calling.
Why is it that if the halocost was real and everything your people are teaching is on the up and up, does it need to hide behind laws banning its opposition?
I personally suggest everyone to not take my word on this subject, but also do not take Martel's either, research it yourself.
Ask yourself who was it that attacked the USS Liberty. Research the Levon affair, then ask yourself are these people really our allies.
Jo Boward| 7.10.10 @ 8:18AM
Little Guy
If "The American Spectator is obviously a JIDF disinformation operation"
So why are you and your Nazi's friend hanging around here....... get back to your Nazi Parties.
Charles Martel| 7.10.10 @ 7:01PM
"Not many people know it, but the Führer was a terrific dancer."
The people posting here may not actually be Nazis, but it would seem -- in great big bright glowing letters, it would "seem" -- that their only problem with the Nazis is that they didn't finish the job.
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Legion Aire| 7.10.10 @ 9:31AM
So Jo just because we don't buy into all the bullshit that is being presented to us we are Nazi?
I love it when you ask a jew a very simple question, they know that they can't answer intelligently, because to do so would let some of the sheep see that there is a wolf within their midst.
So instead you resort to name calling. Typical. Let me guess that being a patriot for my own country and not believing that we should risk our own national security for another nation makes me a antisemite also right?
What don't you sheep get about this whole Israeli first mission you all seem to have fallen into. Our founding fathers would be disgusted with all of you.
Jo Boward| 7.10.10 @ 6:37PM
Legion Aire
I never called YOU personally Nazi, so I guess you know what you are !
Legion Aire| 7.10.10 @ 8:52PM
That's what I thought, I guess the questions were to difficult or just to much of a touchy subject.
Odd how you all play the victim even though you are the ones calling names and insinuating facts not in evidence. Did you see me call you a kike or a heeb. but damned if not all of your responses either outright are calling others names or at least insinuating it.
The truth does not need to hide behind attacks it can withstand the views of the public.
Jo Boward| 7.11.10 @ 2:24AM
Legion Aire
"That's what I thought" from your mixed writing, you don't think at all, all you present is recycling cut and paste boring low white supremacist trash.
Legion Aire| 7.11.10 @ 9:31AM
All I am doing is presenting very simple questions, that you and your Israeli firsters seem to not be able to answer. The more and more you thrash against the truth and resort to name calling the more ignorant you appear to be.
I have never stated that I am superior to anyone else, I am asking you why as a patriotic American why should I support an "ally" that offers this nation nothing other than world wide contempt all the while taking billions of dollars off the American taxpayers? Not to mention the repeated terrorist attacks your nation has committed against this nation, and yet has still refused to apologize for such affairs when caught red handed.
Why is it that you are afraid to answer the questions? Can any of you post a response that does not call others names? It reminds me of trying to correct a third grader.