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The Great Prophet 6 War

By Jed Babbin from the June 2010 issue

Inevitably coming soon: The execution of an Israeli war plan.

“The theocratic state adopted, in time, the features of a garrison state. In fact, Ayatollah Khamenei, who succeeded Khomeini as Iran’s supreme leader, came to use his position as commander-in-chief of the armed forces to expand his power. In time, Khamenei came to appoint many Revolutionary Guard commanders to top political positions, thus blurring the line between military and civilian authority.”
— Morris Mottale, writing in Al-Jazeera, April 22, 2010

“All war is based on deception.”
— Sun Tzu c. 2300 B.C.

While the obama administration flounders and flails trying to get the UN to impose further ineffectual economic sanctions against the ayatollahs in Tehran, Israel must be planning ahead for the day when it can no longer delay a military strike at Iran’s nuclear capabilities. What would such action be? When and how could it be done?

Israel’s military is sui generis: a doctrinal admixture derived from its defense against constant terrorism and conventional threats from neighboring Arab nations, equipped with nearly top-line American and European weapon systems. The IDF — Israeli Defense Forces — have invented their own methods of operation and adapted many of the training and operational methods of American and British units to their own needs. From the grunts on the ground to their elite intelligence and special forces, the Israeli military is limited mainly by the willingness of its government to enable it to act. And the Israelis’ cyberwar capabilities surpass any nation’s, with the possible exception of China.

President Obama has embargoed the sale of advanced U.S. military weapons to Israel and blocked deliveries of previously promised weapons. Among them are those most needed for a preemptive strike on Iran, such as GBU-28 bunker buster bombs, Apache attack helicopters, and design data on a stealthy version of the F-15 Eagle fighter-bomber.

What follows is fiction, at least as far as the author knows.

2 August 2010
Tel Aviv
2245 Hours

Binyamin Netanyahu looked worn, grim, and tired. And he was. The prime minister held his head in both hands, facing down at the table. His hands dropped, and he stood up.

“So, this is the plan? Are we finally agreed?” Netanyahu looked around him. The meetings of the “Security Cabinet” — Israel’s war cabinet — had run on for days, interrupted with frustrating regularity for hours on end by other political crises — real and imagined — that caused the members to rush off to make private calls on their cell phones.

The 15 men and women around the table fell silent, nodding to him and each other.

“So the orders will be issued immediately. Tomorrow the Ofeq and TecSAR satellites will be permanently repositioned so that the risk of detection of the moves will be avoided, and the submarines will begin operational rotations so that three are constantly positioned for the same reasons. Thank you all for the hard work you have done.”

He had no need to remind them of the need for secrecy. They understood that this would be the biggest risk their nation had taken since its existence was declared in 1948.

5 September
IAF training area
0445 Hours

The aircraft appeared suddenly in their binoculars. Even though they knew where to look, the F-15s were impossible to see until they’d slowed from supersonic speed and the smaller F-16s were still a blur. The target was a bunker built 100 feet underground and shielded by 20 feet of steel-reinforced concrete.

Though they were standing a mile away, the ground shook from the five bombs’ detonations. They hit so quickly, one after another, that the distant rumbling sound was continuous. The IAF general waved, and the vehicles raced toward the impact area. When they arrived, the ground team — wearing hard hats and face masks — had already begun measuring the depth and width of the crater. Through the dust cloud, they couldn’t see the bottom.

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About the Author

Jed Babbin served as a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush. He is the author of several bestselling books including Inside the Asylum and In the Words of Our Enemies. You can follow him on Twitter @jedbabbin.

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Vincent Mohan| 6.30.10 @ 6:48AM

Scary stuff. It sounds like Mr. Babbin expects Israel to commit suicide (figureatively and literally) while taking out the Iranian forces for the rest of the world. No nation should have to shoulder a burden like his alone.

Ret. Marine| 6.30.10 @ 7:51AM

It speaks of a " do it or die" methode. They know they must do it, with or without the US involvement or they are to die at the hands of evilness. But as any good person of the Book knows, this will end real badly for the prophets of satan, i.e., muslims and their false god allah.

ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 12:50PM

Was in Israel a little over a year ago. We were allowed the priviledge of a tour of Masada. The Israeli guide told us the story with great passion and detail. They would have preferred to kill each and and leave one man to commit suicide than to give up there homes, and families to Rome. They will never lay it down, or give it up. It is with the memory of those who so bravely held off Rome for 3 years, and then died that the stand with the "do it or die" ideal.
I pray for God's blessing on the people of Israel.
["Prayer is not conquering God's resistance; it is taking His will by the hand!" ] God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them. Period....

believer| 6.30.10 @ 2:57PM

Ret. Marine- Even though Believers know that God will stop the distruction of Israel just in time,
it still scares me to death that America will take sides against Israel and pay the ultimate price.
Thanks for your comment.

Quartermaster| 6.30.10 @ 8:04PM

God will not just stop the destruction of Israel, he will destroy those who attack Israel.

Babbin's speculation isn't bad, but it does not match Ezekial chapters 38 and 39. The attackers will come to Israel, and die on the mountains of Israel. Only 1 in 6 will go home. It may start as in Babbin's article above, but that's not how it will end.

John Pickett | 7.3.10 @ 4:39PM

I still believe in Ezekial:38@39 whole heartedly. Then the Jews will believe, but I'm like you our country will turn its back on Israel and I still think our Patriots will go ape over this. May God have mercy on our souls!

Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 8:49PM

"No nation should have to shoulder a burden like his alone."

No, but certain conservatives-- Pat Buchanan comes to mind-- wont shed a tear if Israel is annihilated.

Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 10:20PM

When someone defends the Holocaust, you can understand it, it was long ago, even if you don't ACCEPT it. But now some of them want another Holocaust? All the death, rape, and mutilation (torture as well) of WWII wasn't enough?

Some people are very hard to please.

Mark James| 7.1.10 @ 1:26AM

But in the meantime, Israel will be all but destroyed and the rest of us will be in ruins. His coming will end man's rebellion once and for all time and eternity.

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:32PM

Vincent, If you think for a moment that the Israelis are commiting suicide, I would recommend that you revisit the events of the ARAB/ISRAELI CONFLICT from it's inception to the current time. The 1967 war had the ARABS with numerical superiority in EVERYTHING except GUTS and DETERMINATION. Plus two things more, The ISRAELIS were BETTER TRAINED and, they had GOD on their side.
So, please believe me when I say this, the IRANIANS WILL FAIL TO DESTROY ISRAEL. Why you might ask ? ... Well, it's simple, really. Number 1. The ARABS have been proven to be cowards when it comes down to placing your backs against a wall and fighting from it. The Israelis are EXPERTS at doing this. Number 2. The ARABS are BULLIES in effect due mostly to their upbringing and the Quoran's teachings. They aren't expecting any real opposition and, when they get smacked in the face with it, their instinct is to RUN just like all bullies. Number 3.
The IRANIANS are NOT as well trained as the ISRAELIS, period. Number 4. THE ARABS DO NOT HAVE GOD ON THEIR SIDE. ------ JT ----

Appleby| 6.30.10 @ 7:34AM

Perhaps Israel still believes that it is better to die on their feet than live on their knees.

Would that more still felt that way.

Tom in Michigan| 6.30.10 @ 1:35PM

Unfortunately for Israel those are not their two choices. If they don't prevail, the IDF heroes will die on their feet. If they don't prevail, the Israeli citizenry will also die on their feet. There is no living on their knees as their enemies are butchering barbarians who will not stop until they have completed the Second Holocaust.

For the second time in my life (the first time was when the Democrats betrayed our Vietnam veterans and dead and our Vietnames allies into the hands of the Communists), I am sickly ashamed of my country. I loathe this government.

If Israeli falls and we do nothing to stop it; this nation will suffer a moral collapse from which it will never recover.

May God bless the state of Israel and damn the Islamists around the world.

mark James| 7.1.10 @ 1:29AM

No, they will continue to "live on their knees" but they will kneel only before I AM.

codin andrei| 7.1.10 @ 9:21AM

Live Free or Die! ... where did we hear that before? The Israelis will fight against all odds, same as in the uprising in the Warsaw ghetto. May the Lord bless them!!!

Melvin| 6.30.10 @ 7:55AM

The Jews have already died on their knees. The vowed, "Never Again."
The only thing that is left for them is to die on their feet, and to take as many Iranians as possible with them.

coal carrier| 6.30.10 @ 8:44AM

Back in the early 1970’s my older brother and I were having a discussion about world events. He brought up the subject of Israel and their continuous struggle with their neighbors. He said that one day they would have to stand alone. I said, stand alone? What about the United States? We are their friend and ally. He said the day would come when the United States would be powerless. We will, at this time, be nothing but another 3rd world country. Our military will be weak and our political class will not want to get involved. I said to him “What the hell have you been drinking?” He said, ok, we’ll see. I said, if this happens I’ll buy you a steak dinner. He said, at that time you probably will not have the money to buy a steak dinner.

With all that has transpired since Obama has been in office and with his connection to the Muslim world, it certainly looks like Israel will have to stand alone. And, I’m not sure that I’ll have the money to buy that steak.

Believer| 6.30.10 @ 3:07PM

Coal Carrier-In the Bible I think its in Hezikiah the Lord Prophisied that in the last days "all nations" would come against Jerusalem to battle.
My personal opinion is America will be too Bankrupt to help Israels enemys, but the book
says All Nations so I guess that means America.

luxuryoption| 6.30.10 @ 6:30PM

The book of the bible you refer to is Ezekiel 38-39.

FakeEagle| 6.30.10 @ 8:49AM

"They are loved on account of the patriarchs. God's gifts and his calling are irrevocable."

Margie| 6.30.10 @ 12:25PM

~Romans 11:29.
Amen.

Robert Vail| 6.30.10 @ 8:50AM

What a scenario! How sad that the U.S. has chosen to ignore its friend Israel in such a time of need. The Israel will fight to the last man, woman and child. They have been pushed against the wall and have no choice but to strike the Iranians and inflict as much damage as possible. Otherwise, the ayatollahs have already stated that they will "wipe Israel from the face of the earth". Faced with such a threat, who can blame Israel for defending herself against annihilation?

Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 11:23PM

But doesn't the Word say Armaggeddon is to come with or without any particular politician?
However if God says "vote for Palin in '12 to save yourselves", then we'll know.

If God says "get out your checkbook and make a tax deductible donation to the RNC", then we shall knoweth for sureth!

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:38PM

WELL SAID ROBERT ! PLEASE REFER TO MY COMMENT TO THE FIRST WRITER.
---------- Your UNCLE

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:40PM

Well said ROBERT, your uncle T.

FLAgirl| 6.30.10 @ 8:59AM

Elections do have consequences...I cannot imagine a McCain/Palin White House letting Israel go it alone.

Obama was known to be friends with Rashid Khalidi and other Palestinian supporters prior to his election, and yet how many Jewish Americans voted for him? The man who sat in Rev. Wright's "church" for 20 years is obviously not a supporter of Israel, and is not and probably will not stand up to Iran. After all, it may interfere with his golf schedule.

RacerJim| 6.30.10 @ 11:24AM

Correct you are FLAgirl.

How every one of my long-time Jewish friends can still support Obama is beyond my comprehension.

Doug| 6.30.10 @ 11:53AM

Because they are Liberals. All Liberals are Liberals first, anything else a distant second, because Liberalism is a godless religion. Your long-time Jewish friends will always take the side of Liberal leaders over the American people, Israel, God, and any other entity that their own Messiah opposes.

Quartermaster| 7.1.10 @ 8:11PM

Liberal "Jews" aren't Jews. Hebrews, yes, but certainly not Jews.

Actually, Judaism is not possible these days. Without the Temple or Tabernacle it is impossible to practice Judaism as the sacrificial system is not possible. The term "Jew" means a practitioner of the religion of Judah. that religion died when the temple was burned in AD 70 by Roman troops.

J Rich | 7.1.10 @ 12:30AM

Without a doubt obama is a Muslim. He most certainly will not go against any Muslim country.
We have to get him out of office immediatly if not sooner. Yesterday would not be soon enough.

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 12:46PM

Yes, guys, Yes, you are quite correct and, since BARAK INSANE OBAMA refused to reveal where the vast bulk of the contributions to his campaign came from, it's my guess that they came from ARAB nations.
FURTHER, I AM CALLING FOR THE IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT of THIS PRESIDENT and, the COMPLETE REMOVAL OF ALL OF HIS REGIME AND THE OVERTURNING OF EVERY PIECE OF LEGISLATION HE AND HIS REGIME HAVE FORCED THROUGH CONGRESS !! ---- JT ----

ben roesch| 7.1.10 @ 6:38PM

how to do this

David| 6.30.10 @ 9:32AM

Don't forget that Israel may have a few nuclear weapons. If they go under, they will probably use them where they will do the most good - striking at the true heart of Israel's and the Jews' enemy, raining fire from the heavens on them. It's a shame that our elected officials (cept I didn't vote for him) are so disgustingly servile to those who call us "enemy".

Tony Rome| 6.30.10 @ 10:42AM

Google Dr. Richard Rubinstein and one will discover why under the Obama administration, Israel will have to go it alone. Obama is a anti-Semitic, no question about it. According to Rubinstein, Obama believes Israel was never entitled to their land.

Doctor Right| 6.30.10 @ 10:42AM

I don't see Obama, et al, supporting this type of action by Israel...at least, not openly.

However, nor do I see them able to utterly abandon Israel, and sponsor a UN Resolution condemning such an attack.

Obama is a neophyte, in many ways, but he has many political operatives around him who know full well the political wrath that the American Jewish community would heap upon the Democrat's heads, especially with the Republicans (justifiably) telling them that Obama is selling-out Israel.

Still...It's shameful that we would let our best ally shoulder the burden of destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities AND suffer all the consequences.

Shameful...And cowardly. And very un-American.

Grandpa| 6.30.10 @ 12:13PM

I don't think the question is whether Obama will support Israel during an attack on Iran. Of course he won't. The question is whether he will order our military to shoot down Israeli airplanes, or just eliminate their element of surprise by tipping off the Iranians of the coming armada.

tjsker| 6.30.10 @ 11:04AM

The ending is why I think Israel will wait until our next presidential election in hopes of getting someone other than Obama.

If they move on the story's timeline, it will be ugly for everyone including the U.S. I can see U.S. mercy ships and planes evacuating Israeli refugees from their homeland under attack by all of its adjacent countries. And then flash forward years later where the U.S. is involved in a long drawn out war to take Israel back from its new inhabitants.

Charles Martel| 6.30.10 @ 3:17PM

(1) It is becoming increasingly clear that the Israelis do not have the additional two years that you envision.

(2) No sovereign nation would overtly attack any U.S.-flag vessel engaged in an evacuation. None of them would risk war with the United States, even with a president as weak and feckless as Obama. Such "mercy ships", though, would be subject to ballistic missiles fired at Israeli ports by the terrorist organizations in Gaza and Lebanon: they know that they have nothing to fear from their brother Obama.

(3) There would be no war to take Israel back. Once the Arabs are in possession, all countries, including ours -- even if we subsequently elected an actual Christian American -- would wash their hands of the region. Most, especially the emasculated Europeans, would breathe a sigh of relief.

The God-damned Arabs will murder the captured and wounded, military and civilian alike, every man, woman, and child; and the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Jewish dead would be burned in the streets or buried en masse in pits while the Arabs dance.

May God curse every hand that cast a ballot for Barack Hussein Obama.

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Alan Brooks| 6.30.10 @ 11:17PM

Um, well I am planning to vote for Obama. But if Armaggeddon comes before Nov 2012, you wont have to curse me or the rest of them galoots.

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:03PM

Alan, ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO WIN IS FOR YOU TO DO NOTHING.
If you believe in the CONSTITUTION and those RIGHTS it grants to YOU, then please take this to heart.
1. OBAMA before he came to ANY OFFFICE said that he was AGAINST THE PRIVATE OWNERSHIP OF FIREARMS BY U.S. CITIZENS.
2. OBAMA WROTE IN A SPEECH THAT HE WAS IN FAVOR OF REMOVING OUR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH.
3. HE HAS SAID HE WANTS TO RULE. HE MEANS OUTRIGHT AS THE FIRST KING OF THE U.S.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND, THIS MAN IS AN AVOWED COMMUNIST, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST AND, PROGRESSIVE. THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT HIM, THEREFORE, WHY VOTE FOR HIM ??
AFTER ALL, the DAMNED DEMO(N)CRATS HAVE AS THEIR MASCOT( LOGO ) A JACKASS. SO, MY QUESTION HERE IS THIS ... ARE THEY SAYING THEY'RE JACKASSES or, ARE THEY SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE JACKASSES OUT OF ALL OF US ??!!! ---- JT --
P.S. I guess all of us know what you are !!

Ole Johansen| 7.6.10 @ 12:55PM

Why this awful shouting?

Mike| 7.1.10 @ 4:17PM

You are certifiably nuts. So consumed with hatred for the "God Damned Arabs" that you probably can't sleep at nights.

Take your medication. Get anger management counseling and quit reading trash from a chickenhawk neocan asshole who can't write good fiction even in the unusual case where he is actually trying to write fiction.

Sorry boys - Israel will not attack Iran, nor will the USA.

Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 5:36PM

Thanks for your "concern", but I'm fine. I'm worried about you though, about how you can't seem to identify the enemy. Remember how they were dancing in the streets on 9/11? Apparently not.

If I were losing sleep at night, it would be because of my fellow Americans who are so comfortable with the idea of the "Islamic Republic", the most prolific sponsor of terrorism in this world, in possession of nuclear weapons that they are unwilling to do anything to forestall it.

When your city is incinerated, should I care?

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Akira | 7.8.10 @ 9:31AM

"remember how they were dancing on the streets on 9/11?"

-- You mean those Mossad agents in New York? The ones who were arrested, ass reported even on Zio-FOX, then released?

Charles Martel| 7.8.10 @ 1:29PM

That did not happen, and you are a liar. And as indicated by your post below, you are also a piece of anti-Semitic filth.

I speak of the "Palestinian" Arabs that everyone saw on CNN.

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Akira | 7.8.10 @ 9:29AM

Re: "No sovereign nation would overtly attack any U.S.-flagged vessel"

The Jews would.

They did.

They tried to sink the USS Liberty and to kill the entire crew.

Fortunately they only succeeded in murdering 32 Americans.

Of course The Jew-State is not exactly sovereign since it exists as a parasite of US taxpayers.

martin j smith| 6.30.10 @ 11:08AM

In the world we know, there is a great deal of theatre and there is a great deal of reality. Problem is separating out the two. BHO in particular and his company are hard to get to the truth. Especially what is actually communicated between BHO et al and th Israeli government. Taking the BHO admin line at face value--meaning a guy with a chip on his shoulder about Israel , this policy of could shouldering Israel could lead into a disastrous world war. So for example, if we "play the game opf "what if..." I could i8magine the following if Israel attacks iran and the US joined a UN embargo against Israe:

From Benjamin Netanyahu;

Dear Barak:
What you and the UN has done is in our view a declaration of war on the State of Israel. Therefore, let me caution you and other states
our finger is on the trigger--we have nothing to lose. So, you can bet your friends will feel the consequences at any given moment as you will as well. We caution you to stand down . This is your final warning..

Howard| 6.30.10 @ 11:14AM

Israel is is a "lose lose" situation. If they do nothing, Iran will eventually develop an A bomb or two. If they attack before hand, they will be subject to condemnation and attacks from Iran and its proxies. The condemnation and proxy attacks are survivable, Iran dropping nukes is not. And by the way, Obama, who says Iran will not try to use them on the US?

Tom in Michigan| 6.30.10 @ 1:39PM

Of course Iran will use nuclear weapons against the US; at the first opportunity.

In their perverted view, Israel is merely "the little Satan." We are "the Great Satan" and their ultimate target.

The Obamaviks are like collaborationists throughout history, thinking they can make an accomodation with an implacable enemy when, in reality their malfeasance only delays the inevitable.

DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 2:35PM

Using a nuclear weapons is not necessarily equivalent to lighting one off. The Iranian nuke, once recognized, has its uses. One of them will be for the Israelis to strike before Obama gets scared off entirely. One could argue that the prospect of a nuke has changed Obama. No way to counter such an argument. Israel will be 'all in' if the conventional strike is met with any kind of WMD. And I hope that any government in the middle east is feeling a little uncomfortable. I can see collateral damage over several weeks all over the globe if Israel does not prevail. It will all be pre-arranged.

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:19PM

Dave, Traditionally ALL arab nations have mouthed their support for other ARAB nations that were shaking their swords in the air while most have refused to get involved in the conflict.
Take IRAQ for example, MANY of the other ARAB nations voiced their approval while quietly hoping that Saddam Hussein was removed and, they were GLAD when he was removed.
Now, let's take a really GOOD look at IRAN. The IRANIANS ARE PERSIANS and, HATED just as much by the ARABS as is ISRAEL. The ARAB nations WILL NOT back IRAN, they WILL just voice their approval and, nothing more. IF IRAN AND ISRAEL WERE TO UTTERLY DESTROY EACH OTHER, the ARABS would be quite pleased.
The real fear for the ARAB middle eastern nations is this ... IF IRAN drops a nuke on ISRAEL, then the radiation would also destroy their citizens as well and, this would depend upon which way the wind blew. It could be EGYPT and ALL of the ARAB NATIONS IN AFFRICA or, it could be ALL of the ARABIAN PENINSULA nations. They know this and, so, I wouldn't be surprised IF some if not all of those nations sided with ISRAEL in this instance. ------ JT ------

Christopher Holland| 6.30.10 @ 9:33PM

America is in a 'lose lose' position as well. If America does nothing, it loses. If Israel attacks alone, America gets the blame anyway and Israel's attack will be less effective for its isolation. If America's policy is to fight to the last Jew then it will get no thanks from anybody - it is a gutless, disgracefull and dishonourable policy - but exactly what will probably happen anyway.

dcd| 7.1.10 @ 3:08AM

and if the US stands with Israel the middle east will stop the flow of oil and cash. Israelies are really nice folks, but what's one little country compared to my SUV. Priorities people.

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:29PM

Sir, Come on, I'm sure you by now realise trhat the ARAB OIL PRODUCING nations realise what the consequences of an OIL EMBARGO by them would mean. Don't you ... ? It would mean OBAMA WILL BE FORCED TO DEVELOP THE OIL FIELDS WE HAVE AND FURTHER, TO USE THOSE WE ALREADY HAVE DEVELOPED AS WELL.
The OIL FIELD in EASTERN MONTANA and WESTERN NORTH DAKOTA HOLDS MORE OIL THAN WHAT ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS HAVE COMBINED plus, WE ALSO HAVE THE ANWR WHICH IS HUGE and, ALL OF OUR COASTAL RESERVES plus, we have ONE HALF OF THE WORLD'S OIL SHALE and, A HUGE AMOUNT OF COAL.
No, sir, the ARABS might be many things but, they're NOT STUPID. They DO NOT WANT THE U.S. GOING INDEPENDENT and, becoming their CHIEF COMPETITOR !! --- JT ---

Sean| 7.5.10 @ 8:39PM

Interesting deduction, but I would argue that would NOT come to pass: Obama and his crowd are too ideologically opposed to the development of our sovereign oil fields. I would instead see an accelerated push for some type of hair-brained utopian dream scape - alternative fuel initiative - depending on how this whole cap -and -tax thing plays out - but of course that is a complete non starter as far as actually being viable at this point - if ever. I think that the resulting oil embargo will create the most intense economic despair this country has ever seen, precisely because we have not taken steps to open ANWR or the shale fields that you have mentioned.
That's assuming this all happens before elections of 2012. God truly help us if this man wins a second term.....

Louis Jenkins| 6.30.10 @ 11:23AM

A shocking scenario, but true. I hope it does not come to this, however, it is very possible. The US Military knows what Israel is up against. It may be one time they do not listen to the Pretender n Chief and aide Israel. At which point the gig is on for all of us. We'll have to see.

DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 2:40PM

I think McChrystal would not relay such an order (to shoot down Israeli planes or sink Israeli subs.) I don't think Petraeus, or a Norman S. or any other command general worth a lick would dare shoot an Israeli plane down (not if he wants to keep his family out of a witness protection - like program.) There could be a court-martial or two, but I think it would pass. The public would weigh in, and BHO would not prevail against the insubordinate.

Charles Martel| 6.30.10 @ 3:25PM

You envision Beck, Witzleben, and Rommel. You should instead expect Keitel, Jodl, and Fromm.

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DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 3:40PM

If you mean to distinguish those who'd serve the Fatherland from those who serve the Fuhrer, then you'd be all over it. I may hope against reason, may I not?

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 1:35PM

CHARLEMAGNE, It was THOMAS JEFFERSON who said the WHEN THE LAW OF THE LAND BECOMES UNJUST, IT IS THE OBLIGATION OF EVERY CITIZEN TO OPPOSE IT. ------------------------------ JT ---------------------

Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 5:51PM

It's Charles Martel, not Charlemagne (he was "my" grandson), but that's beside the point.

You might want to look up and read about the Valkyrie conspiracy. The first three names were participants; the latter three were the toadies who backed the Leader.

The Republic is beset by domestic enemies as it has been at no other time because those enemies now comprise the government itself. The reason I cited those officers was to suggest that too many of ours, at the moment of crisis, will prove to be time servers more concerned with their careers than their oaths.

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Doug| 6.30.10 @ 11:45AM

Obama's attitude toward Israel is a disgrace to our nation. I hope that the Israeli people realize that the American people are with them, despite the hatred and cowardice of our co-called "leaders."

God Bless Israel!

Armchair General| 6.30.10 @ 12:41PM

So, it's come to this. This is how the civilized world ends. Obama wins, we die.

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 12:45PM

Jed,
I read your column very early this morning. I chose to let the ideas settle in my mind a while before commenting.

I think your time-line is a little off, but the scenario is too probable. Honestly, I believe our "regime" would almost... almost ...welcome an all out war between Israel and her avowed murderors.

I believe mr obama would strain his neck holding his chin high enough to stay "above the fray".

In my opinion, obama will be rendered totally irrelevant if that war begins in earnest....both internationally .....and politically here at home.

His so-called "international backstop" (Biden), is merely a sad joke.

Jed, you do realize that you have set the stage in your scenario.......for Armegeddon?

You fools here may scroll down now.
(Fool: def. "a man who says in his heart..."there is no God". Psalms 14:1)

Well, Jed I am not on the program committee. I surely don't know if this is the run-up to Armegeddon. I am on the welcoming committee.
("Even so, Lord, come quickly"!)

As you know, some Christians read that we Christians, saved by Grace, will meet Jesus in the air before all of that yucky stuff happens.
Some Christians feel that perhaps we might have to endure the whole mess...with faith and courage.

I'm sure I don't know, though I have spent some serious time over 40 years reading the several "eschatologies" in the Bible. (that means "the last days" folks).

I do wonder... with my sorry ass failures over a life time, if I am destined to go through the whole mess.

Whatever...I stand with Israel!!!!!

You know, Jed, I wonder seriously if "Rush" is the Isaiah of our day. Our prophet if you will, in the sense that Old Testament prophets were primarily "FORTH-TELLERS" rather than "fore-tellers".
I simply stand in awe of his ability to articulate the issues of good versus evil.... and "stupid versus wise".

I can see a day when some our own troops in the middle east...break ranks...and join Israel's efforts.
God bless 'em.
I can see a day when orders to them from obama are "garbled".

Thank you again, sir, for gazing with me into the future.

Stephanie| 6.30.10 @ 1:03PM

God bless you Ken. I'm with you.

Maddox| 6.30.10 @ 2:07PM

Many of us feel the passion for our country that is expressed so well by Rush and you, Ken.
We may lack the right words but we stand with Israel and will the fight to keep The United States free. November is crucial.
May GOD, help us all.

Margie| 6.30.10 @ 3:55PM

I fully agree. Thank God for Rush and Ken and all the good guys.

ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 2:32PM

I'm with you too Ken. God bless us all!

I happen to be one of those Christians who believes we will meet Jesus in the air...and if you belong to Him (saved by grace) you won't be here to for the yucky stuff. Because...first, there is now no condenation to those who are in Christ Jesus Rom 8:1 and lastly, the church is mentioned over and over in Rev. chpts 1-4. No more mention of the church after chpt 4. , and hell doesn't break loose until after chpt 4. However, like you, no matter where I am when those dreadful days begin, I know that Jesus Christ is on my side and I will not be ashamed of Him....
AND GOD BLESS ISRAEL!

Believer| 6.30.10 @ 3:46PM

Shortnsweet-Just wanted to comment on your
views on the rapture, The modern Church didnt
even preach on the rapture until 1830 when a women in Ireland decided to enlighten the Church. Before that time it was assumed that Christians would have to give their lives like the
millions did in the first couple century's. The real
rapture is in the book of Matthew chapter 13 vs. 28 thru 30. Stop listening to foolish men and prepare for hard times.

ShortNSweet| 6.30.10 @ 4:10PM

Note taken...
Like is said before, no matter where I am when those dreadful times arrive, I know that Christ Jesus is on my side.
God Bless You Sir!

J Rich | 7.1.10 @ 12:41AM

I think theway obama has handled the oil spill is a good indication how he will handle any crisis and especially what is being talked about here.
God bless Israel

NavyBrat | 6.30.10 @ 2:03PM

Israel will surely go down swinging, if they are to go down at all. I'm hoping that, should war break out, the Jews here in this country will ensure that Obama doesn't sit & just let it happen. As a Jew myself, the self destructive love & willfull ignorance displayed by my liberal fellow Jews in relation to all things Obama & liberal is galling to no end. This man HATES us, folks. Be we Jews or Christians. The signs are all there for those who have eyes & ears.

An interesting article from today's American Thinker on why Israel faces a tough road. A must read:

http://www.americanthinker.com.....pt_th.html

Big Elk| 6.30.10 @ 2:17PM

While they're at it the Israelis should nuke Teheran, Mecca and the rest of the mohammedan dog's and pig's cities. Obama won't do a thing, he's not even an American, and he promised to cover mohammedans' backs while he was on his Steppinfetchit tour of barbaric mohammedan countries.

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 2:44PM

Navy Brat... read it already. but thanks.

Big Elk,
There is no question but that they will nuke...evil.... even if it means another "Masada"......and even if it means Washington DC.

Most serious geo-political folks believe Israel has some two hundred nukes.
Folks, there ain't enough muslim enemies to absorb all those nukes in the mid-east.

Twenty nukes would end the muslim "national" enemies of Israel.
Hmmmmmmm.

DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 3:44PM

Saddam knew what value the Quaker Gun was to deterring aggressive action. Too bad for him he went up against someone who called the bluff. Now, Saddam can't blame the game in which he participated, and now neither can the Teheran or Washington regimes if Israel decides to call the bluff.

Melvin| 6.30.10 @ 3:50PM

It would be quite the parking lot wouldn't it?

DaveS| 6.30.10 @ 5:37PM

Israel took a desert and made something of it. A parking lot would be less a challenge.

Chairman Nobombo| 6.30.10 @ 3:53PM

For more than 200 years the Lord has blessed America, but now we have this Obami in the White House, the Lord is telling us something.

Daniel| 6.30.10 @ 4:21PM

Armageddon is still in the distant future. It will NOT be simply between Israel and Iran. Just, like the 6 day war, a lot of people thought it was all over for Israel. Didn't happen. This particular war between Israel and Iran has the blessings of a number of other Arab States for Israel to win. After all, the Iranians are not Arab, they are Persians. The Arabs fear Iran, that if they succeed against Israel, their Arab States would be next to come under the heel of Iran. The Royal Family of Saudi Arabia, in no way, wants Iran to succeed against Israel and neither does Europe or the US. No, the time for Armageddon is not yet arrived. God bless Israel!

Clinton nee Publius | 6.30.10 @ 4:36PM

The plan is called Tishah B’Av. Tishah B’Av is a combined air and sea-based attack upon the Islamic Republic of Iran. The date for the attack is set for the Tishah B’Av holiday - the date that marks the holiday marking the destruction of the First Temple of Jerusalem and Second Temple of Jerusalem by the Roman Empire.

The date is July 19th of THIS year.

The first phase is to use IAF aircraft to destroy all Iranian Air Force planes and gain air superiority over all Iranian airspace for a period of 24 to 36 hours. During this time, it will leak out that the Iranians will have to submit to Israeli inspections or face nuclear annihilation.

The Israelis will intentionally limit the timetable because they know they cannot hold open the air corridor for an extended period and they know Iran's leaders will reject all offers of mediation. They know they will have to execute the second phase.
The second phase of the plan is to use six (6) low-yield, air-burst 125 kiloton tactical nuclear weapons (lob-tossed bombs) to destroy the main population centers around the key nuclear facilities and destroy the city center of Tehran. This will be followed by intensive negotiations to prevent a ground war from resulting in the occupation of Iran. The political dynamic is to demonstrate that millions will die if the nuclear program goes forward and anyone who attacks Israel (think Syria) will be destroyed with low-yield tactical nuclear weapons.

Like Masada, the plan is desperate, but desperate times call for bold plans.

You heard it here first. 36 hour attack plan followed by a nuclear strike. There are no choices in this matter. America sealed the fate of Iran by turning its back on Israel.

Navig8r| 6.30.10 @ 4:57PM

The story left out the special forces on the ground. I suspect they will do more than call in air strikes. You will see some coordinated assasinations and raids from the ground.

I fear that when backed against the wall with not even the U.S. at their backs, the Israelis would be forced to use their nukes. I guess we could still drill for oil thru glass, but that would make some nasty fallout.

Paulie4| 6.30.10 @ 5:07PM

Obama and gang seem unable to distinguish between good and evil and this is a profound weakness. Why Jews in the U.S. support the Democrats is a mystery to me. Israel’s best friend these days are conservative Republicans.

William R| 6.30.10 @ 7:03PM

Israel's Suicidal Course

http://amconmag.com/article/2010/aug/01/00010/

Rick Z| 6.30.10 @ 7:14PM

... Israel may choose to eliminate Western support for Muslim states by removing the Oil Card ---

Destroying the Middle East oil wells with dirty nukes will make them too radioactive to work for thousands of years.

Minimal loss of life, outside oil field workers. ... .... No benefit to support the former oil producers who are out of business.

Rick Z| 6.30.10 @ 7:14PM

... Israel may choose to eliminate Western support for Muslim states by removing the Oil Card ---

Destroying the Middle East oil wells with dirty nukes will make them too radioactive to work for thousands of years.

Minimal loss of life, outside oil field workers. ... .... No benefit to support the former oil producers who are out of business.

Gerald Stephens| 6.30.10 @ 8:01PM

Crystal Ball...

Crystal balls are difficult to come by. I got mine in a pawn shop but it did come with a partial warranty printed in Yiddish.

Last I looked it appeared as though America awakened sometime prior to November 2010, rubbed the sleep from her eyes, and eradicated every progressive found trolling the polling stations. I also saw some lop eared fool being not so gently escorted from a playground.

There was also dramatic evidence like our ‘O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave…’, of a battle flag showing a big blue star on a white field flying over a parking lot of all places.

Then too there were banners, oh so many fluttering banners, written in some old world language, something like, E Pluribus Unum.

The crystal then blazed with brilliant light and golden lettering, …If Israel is forced to strike in self defense the victory will be so great as to humble all deniers.

So sayeth Christ, Abraham, and all the rest of the good guys.

Ken (Old Texican)| 6.30.10 @ 8:02PM

Rick Z,
Sadly, nukes are not magical. Sand does not retain radioactivity very well. Move the new well over a half a mile and you are back to the oil. (directional drilling)....in six months.
Air-bursts produce no radioactivity, and ground bursts don't give you much bang, (footprint), on the ground.

Picture a tennis ball. Sitting on a flat surface, a very tiny portion of the tennis ball touches the ground. (small foot-print).
Now,
cut the tennis ball in half and set the hollow side on the flat surface. (huge comparative footprint). That is the footprint of an air-burst.

PS: the oil is thousands of feet below bedrock...no radioactivity whatsoever.

The nukes will be used on the oil-tanker-terminals....three or four years to rebuild them. I know. I built them.

Norm Worrell| 6.30.10 @ 9:51PM

No! You are not alone.

Osamas Pajamas| 7.1.10 @ 1:37AM

An Israeli attack on Iran would be a good time to kill Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez and his ruling military clique, as he has been cooperating with the Russians and Iranians on a strike force capable of hitting the soft underbelly of the USA. Unfortunately, the Joint Chiefs of Staff would first have to arrest Barak Hushpuppy OhBummer and deport him over Mecca without a parachute, and put a leash and a gag on VP Biteme.

mdeleine7| 7.1.10 @ 2:26AM

Fascinating scenario and comments !! Yes , I can feel the tension being racheted up . I trust in the Lord of Israel and His Word in the Bible . Israel will NOT be destroyed . However , I fear for the US . The Government is most definitely with the Forces of Evil . May God protect all those good people there !!!

madeleine7| 7.1.10 @ 2:52AM

I forgot to add - Please pray that Israel will trust in G-D and not falter . Also , that He may protect and bless US and guide people to find a viable solution for the horrendous Gulf Coast tragedy.

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Wayne| 7.1.10 @ 12:45PM

Nice scenario save one thing, why do you and all of the other writers on this subject ignore Israeli use of their nuclear arsenal?

Why is it that EVERYONE seems to accept that psycho's like Iran are willing to use nukes but that no one else would?

blupheonix| 7.1.10 @ 12:50PM

Are you kidding me???

If Israel strikes Iran, then the time has come to strike out at Israel... That country is THE major source of unrest in the mid east, and MUST be dealt with in the harshest way possible.... I say we turn it into a big glass parking lot! Yes, fuck Israeli war mongers! But lets not forget who is also culpable if Israel hits Iran, The USA has been supplying Israel for YEARS, in $ and high tech weapons. Why? Because Americans want JESUS to return, and think that by (falsely) supporting Israeli Jews, that JESUS will rise from the dead, and bring everyone ham sandwiches... So by all means, start world war 3... But expect, not a Jew to remain on earth if that happens... Why doesn't The US attack a real criminal, like Oh, SAUDI ARABIA?!!! OR North KoreA... Fucking pussies... Thats why. And you also have to play for your Jewish masters also, we all know that.... PS, FUCK ISRAEL!

Clinton nee Publius | 7.1.10 @ 7:26PM

At least you have a balanced perspective that is not driven by psychopathic anti-Semitism.

You're right though, as the only democracy in the Middle East through all those years, Israel was always a big troublemaker. Heck, that whole Yom Kippur War launched by Egypt and Syria was really an Israeli trick so they could destroy Egypt and Syria.

Man, put down the pipe...

shipley130| 7.1.10 @ 1:01PM

I hope a war such as this doesn't break out during Obama's rule. He is such a moron that even our most talented generals probably can't stop the madness.

blupheonix| 7.1.10 @ 1:01PM

Now I KNOW you are all crazy after reading comments... All of you really want to go to war with Iran don't you! Well, I just hope your Military, otherwise you better sign the hell up right now, and stop paying in lipservice.. Just proves that Israel operates without the constraints that other countries have to work under. Also I like how Israel is NEVER at fault, and how Americans have been brainwashed to accept that line... Tell you what, do I have the right to defend myself against radical Jews?? To prevent a world war? Who says the next Hitler can't be a Jew?

PS. Fuck Israel.

Nick| 7.1.10 @ 1:39PM

Go away, anti-Semite pig!

JT DAVENPORT| 7.1.10 @ 2:08PM

BP, It's clear that you are a MUSLIM. Let me simply say this ... The nation of Israel is located where it once was and, more importantly, where GOD said it WOULD BE AGAIN.
To begin with from it's inceptioin, Israel has been attacked by Arab Moslem nations and factions. It was the ARAB NATIONS that started this. Yes, this WILL eventually end up in a NUCLEAR WAR which will spell the END of most of the MOSLEM peoples since most of them live in the MIDDLE EAST. Israel will NOT use NUKES first but, WILL RETALIATE in such a way as to completely make certain that ALL of it's problems are ELIMINATED. You know this IS the truth . So, I would think that IF you had family or, friends in the Middle East that you would want them to LIVE , NOT DIE.
This ongoing campaign by MUSLIMS to seize control of the entire world simply WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Now, go back into the very FAR distant past and take a good look. There WAS A NUCLEAR WAR maybe 20,000 or more years ago and, it knocked humanity from our lofty perch down to nearly caveman status. It's taken us this long to almost regain our original perch. We're NOT there yet but, close.
Now, guess where that NUCLEAR WAR of OLD was located ... IN INDIA, PAKISTAN, parts of CHINA and, the MIDDLE EAST.
You see, events DO happen to replay themselves IF WE DO NOT LEARN THE LESSONS OF HISTORY. IN THIS CASE, I MEAN WE SHOULD ALL LEARN TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, PERIOD. -------- JT --------
P.S. Americans have NOT been brainwashed like you have said. We can make decisions for ourselves and, in the case of Israel vs. the Arab nations that seek to utterly destroy it, we CAN see QUITE CLEARLY who is to BLAME.
Israel has tried to live peacefully with it's neighbors except that such neighbors as HEZBOLLAH and HAMAS, among others, have stated that their intention is to completely destroy the nation of Israel AND it's people and, have it seems been completely dedicated to trying to do just that. However, they WILL fail ... these ARAB NAZI ISLAMO-FASCISTS WILL FAIL and, worse, they WILL bring ALL of the rest of the MOSLEM world down with them. Just wait and see. With the first nuke dropped by Iran, it will be perceived to be the Moslems who have done this despicable deed and, the WORLD will RISE UP and then the Moslems will know what the word GENOCIDE really means. ------ JT ------

Tempus Mutantis| 7.1.10 @ 2:55PM

Insanity can hit a whole people; we saw that under Schickelgruber.Now The Khazars are at it again; atacking their neighbours viciously and digging their own graves,again. Free yourself of the Robber-Baron, yes Rotschild ,who owns you- and all Central /National banks in the world(save 7). Calm down , you are NOT going to conquer the Universe (see :HUBBLE) Only billions of moniesspent on intene,psychological popaganda, has corruptd the minds of the people;nobody is so blood-thirsty and ignorant of what "nuking" does to the Planet ,by nature, even Khazars can bcome human-if they act as such.-By the way; ordeering GOD to do this and that does NOT work.

Charles Martel| 7.1.10 @ 8:16PM

Another missive from the "palestinian" corner.

Thanks, anti-semite, now crawl back in your hole.

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T.D.Foster| 7.1.10 @ 3:35PM

Who is writing all this nonsense about "god" and "ezekiel"?Are there still people out there who actually believe this guff?And the scenario as portrayed by Babbib-or should that read Baboon? is redolent of the writings of Lovecraft et al.Why is it always "brave little Israel"-with two hundred nuclear weapons-and the bullying arab nations.I say a plague on both their houses!

Ron Lewenberg| 7.1.10 @ 8:35PM

The author forgets taht Israel has dozens of Jericho III ICBMs. Hopefully Israel has been building many more launch vehicles without nuclear warheads. The ICBMS can be used with conventional warheads of Kinetic Energy warheads (1 ton of tungsten or depleted uranium) Such a rod of heavy metal has the equivalent force of .75 Kilotons of TNT when it hits a smal area. A few of them hitting a target can cause tremendous damage even to a facility built into a mountain. Israel has many more Jericho II icbms, but these have a payload of only 500kg. This would, of course, be enough to take out an airbase or command center. Israel already uses a modified Jerocho II, the Shavit 2 to launch 800kg satellites.

Also, The Israeli air force has 16 F-15D's it modified as the Baz-2000) that would escort the strike.

bernardo| 7.1.10 @ 9:43PM

Let's hope that it will not come to war. Let us also hope that if it does, Israel will not have to do the work alone. Destroying the armed forces of the malignant government of Iran (if such must be done) is in many ways our responsibility since the failure, wrongheadedness, and criminal incompetence of an American president (Reverend Carter) led to the creation of the regime.
However I fear that with Carter II in the White House our country will do nothing and leave it to Israel to fight alone. It has been well said that one should not attribute to malice any act that can be adequately explained by stupidity. However when one notices Obama’s consistent pattern of favoring, flattering, and fawning over Russia, Venezuela, China, various anti-American Islamic despotisms, and just about any present or recent enemy of the United States while shunning, demeaning, and insulting Israel, Great Britain, Poland, the Czech Republic, and just about any reliable friend of this country, one is ever more hard pressed to get to an explanation based only on stupidity and incompetence.
If the Israelis do have to act alone, it may well for them be a total war. They might decide to hold nothing back in their strike but rather hit with maximum necessary force with whatever weapons are appropriate to the task. For total war against enemies out for total destruction demands nothing less.
As no one should want such a war, we must hope our government will finally act strongly to prevent it from happening.

Shula| 7.2.10 @ 2:17PM

The Bible calls the Israelite nation "a nation that dwells alone (Am levadad yishkon).
Every year on the seder night we say, "In every generation they arose to destroy us, yet G-d saved us from their hands. As a religious Jew I know that those who want to kill out G-d's people will try in every generation. Yet we are still here. Iran is simply the current chapter in a very long story until we merit the final redemption, may it come speedily in our time.

Reaganite71| 7.3.10 @ 1:42PM

Might an Israeli deployment of an EMP over Iran, prior to launching a defensive attack against thier nuclear program, minimize Iran's ability to counter attack?

It seems to me that would eliminate their fighter capability and destroy the microchips in their missles, yes?

David Yousif| 7.4.10 @ 6:01AM

“I WILL BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS YOU AND CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE YOU” , That was the promise of our GOD to Abraham, US has been blessed all this time simply because we stood and supported Israel , and the enemy of Israel “Arabs” they have been cursed all that time. I sure hope we will not lose GOD’s blessing by ending our support for Israel and a time where it is mostly needed.

heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 12:44AM

You insane Zionist motherfuckers. I see that you're at it again: trying to drum up support for another criminal war for Israel.

You're going to pay for getting the US to go to war YET AGAIN for that shitty little rogue state called Israel.

You Neocons are traitors and shall be treated as such. You have been warned.

Slither back into your dank little holes, you Zionist scum.

Owen K.| 7.5.10 @ 1:16AM

You sound about as hate filled as anyone I have read on these comments. So, why do you hate Israel and the Jewish people? What have they done to make you so bitter?

heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 11:38AM

Why do you hate America and White Christians so much that you want to subvert our interests to those of that criminal rogue state, Israel?

Have you no shame?

You Judaic-Christians are lunatics. No wonder you're are so easily manipulated by your Zionist masters.

Charles Martel| 7.6.10 @ 1:17PM

I am a white American Christian conservative, and I'd appreciate your expanding on which of our interests is subverted by our support for ever-beleaguered Israel. Please try to do so without the extraneous emotion and omitting the words "hate", "traitor", and "lunatic". I am truly curious as to which interest you believe would be served by our betraying an ally.

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heartfelt| 7.5.10 @ 12:46AM

Fight Terrorism: Nuke Israel

solo| 7.5.10 @ 12:53PM

Heartfelt Wrote:

" Why do you hate America and White Christians so much that you want to subvert our interests to those of that criminal rogue state, Israel?

Have you no shame?

You Judaic-Christians are lunatics. No wonder you're are so easily manipulated by your Zionist masters. "

Hmmmm! The Prison Planet site must be down today.

I'll bet it's all a conspiracy by THE JOOOOOOOOS!
LOL!

Jane Marple| 7.6.10 @ 7:27PM

Put a lid on it, clownie.

Every time people like you can't answer someone's legitimate criticism to stop putting the needs of another country above those of the United States, you whine "Oy vey! Anti-semite!"

It's letting yahoos like you stifle legitimate criticism of expansionist, neo-con policies for the last ten years, that's led to the near-bankruptcy of our nation and the rest of the world to regard us with suspicion and distrust.

If America isn't first in your heart, then get the hell out. But, at least, thank you for revealing where your real loyalties lie.

Syd Chaden| 7.5.10 @ 3:06PM

Having read all of the comments to date, most of which passionately support Israel, and some of which look forward to its destruction, I am struck by the irony of the situation. Supporters of Israel primarily see Obama as the enemy of Israel and the major contributor to the danger of its destruction. There is much greater concern that Obama will order the US military to interdict an Israeli attack on Iran, than there is that Iran might successfully defend against such an attack. If that concern is warranted, and in my opinion it is, then Israel had best launch its attack now, while Obama is primarily occupied with the forthcoming elections. Israeli reliance upon an enemy for its survival will only lead to its destruction.
Enemies of Israel primarily see Zionism as the major contributor to the danger of ...of what? Certainly not to the danger to Muslims. Many, many Muslims are killed daily around the world. A very few may be killed by Israel in border skirmishes and in retaliation for rocket attacks, but by far, Muslims are killed by other Muslims. Where is the Muslim outcry? Don't those Muslims count? Zionism is a movement to locate Jews in Israel, and the Jews are there. While there are Muslims who won't accept that, and who cry for Israel to be destroyed, that hardly explains the unending killing of Muslims by other Muslims, around the world.

Honest_Bob| 7.5.10 @ 3:09PM

Unfortunately, we do have a "dog in this fight" by our bank rolling of Israel. For the most part, the "Tail" (Israel ) wags the "Dog"(US)!

The middle east is a landmine that has bankrupted our country. On one side we have our trusted ally Israel, who spies on us, has embedded operatives in our government and is all too happy to let us fight their wars for them (never forget the USS Liberty!).

On the other side we have the Islamists, who basically want us dead.

This situation will always be a Lose-Lose for the US.

Jane Marple| 7.6.10 @ 7:21PM

Gag me.

All you Israel-firsters need to make aliyah and become cannon fodder in the IDF, you're so in love with her. For pity's sake, how long has it been "patriotic" to put the need of ANY foreign country, even Israel, before your own?

Wake up! The Bible is just a bunch of stupid fairy tales, and you're going to help set the world on fire for a bunch of myths written by dirty, half-literate, psychotic shepherds 2,500 years ag?.

Watching you maudlinly fawn over Israel makes me wonder if the leftists aren't right when they call conservatives (at least you guys), the stupid party.

You people are traitors and, sadly, too stupid to even know it.

Mariela Sims| 7.6.10 @ 11:37PM

THE ONLY CRISTIAN COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHO STILL BELIEVES THAT THE ZIONIST STATE OF ISRAEL (WHO BY THE WAY KILL JESUS) IS USA, THE REST OF THE WORLD ALREADY WAKE UP!

Phillip Marlowe | 7.7.10 @ 5:14PM

I can't believe all these fooled ISRAEL-FIRSTERS here.

I'm a patriotic American -- I'm against that war-mongering, deceitful nation of Israel and all those paranoid Zionist freaks from Tel Aviv to New York.

George Washington warned us against allying ourselves with foreign nations in his farewell speech. The spineless politicians in DC are owned by these people and totally in their sway for campaign financing and fear of the owned media.

Obama and Hillary Clinton are NOT going to do one damn thing to Israel. Don't you get it? It's all orchestrated for anything sacred Israel wants and always has been.

Don't any of you know that Israel tried to sink the US Liberty and kill the entire crew in 1967?

Do you believe every damn thing you see on FOX News, or any other US mainstream news?

When the hell will you put two and two together? The rest of the world knows we always do whatever the Zionists want us to do. They OWN US.

America on the GD wrong side here! These people are going to get us into a war that will destroy the US, at the very least what's left of our economy, or maybe even a whole lot worse.

It will end up with our children dying in another country that Israel deems an enemy. They've done it before!

And all you religious people have been totally snookered by End Times brainwashing by corrupted preachers. Read the New Testament for yourselves and not from some Zionist Cliff Notes version.

“Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.” -- Revelation 3:9

Count Cherep| 7.7.10 @ 5:49PM

Read the following book by Jack Bernstein:

The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel

Excerpt:

THE CONTENTS OF THIS BOOK ARE EXPECTED TO BRING A STRONG REACTION FROM THE ZIONIST JEWS.

I am well aware of the tactics of you, my Zionist brethren, use to quiet anyone who attempts to expose any of your subversive acts.

If the person is a Gentile, you cry, "You're anti-semitic" which is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide your actions.

But, if a Jew is the person doing the exposing, you resort to other tactics.

First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution.
If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule the information and the persons giving the information.
If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination. If the author or speaker hasn't been involved in sufficient scandal you are adept at fabricating scandal against the person or persons.
If none of these are effective, you are known to resort to physical attacks.
But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong.

Read the rest:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/israel.htm

Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 6:18PM

The Above Mr. Phillip Marlowe is one of those persons that made Adolph Hitler his GOD, he blames the US for Killing innocent Germans during WW2, This Phony Patriot wrote about the German Nazis

“I swear I will not forget the crime against innocent people at Dresden. I will not forget that the US is responsible. I will not forget! I am but one small life.
Rest my unknown friends, you downtrodden and despised of this world. Though we could not speak the same language if we stood before each other, though I never knew your names, and while your faces I can only imagine, you are my departed loved ones. My heart beats for yours. My mind remembers for yours. My tears for yours…”

This Nazi dosen’t say a word about the 400,000 American Hero Soldiers that were killed by the Nazi German Devils, but writes” The political and military leadership of Britain and America knew this when they ordered the air fleets to drop unbelievable amounts of incendiaries and high-explosive bombs”

One of His followers writes” I am not fit to carry Hitler’s luggage.
For those that try to denounce Hitler, you have no idea, the man did everything humanely possibly to save the people of Germany, all that overcame him was the utter stupidity and ignorance of Americans, Russians and Brits, hand your heads in shame, and cry tears for Dresden, and swear that the blood be avenged!
Phillip Marlowe is a Nazi who claims to be an American Patriot, He already informed his Nazi comrades to comment their Nazi spew in this blog.

Phillip Marlowe | 7.7.10 @ 6:30PM

You're the phony patriot and Zionist. I'm quite certain "Clark Anderson" is the nom de plum for a STEIN something.

And besides, your knowledge of history is wrong, or you're just allowing for a little hyperbole for those too ignorant to note.

It was 400,000 plus in Europe AND the Pacific.

I also stand by my words about Dresden and afterwards, when Eisenhower purposfully allowed 1 million German POWs to starve to death.

Oh, does saying that make me out as a traitor? I don't think so, Schmo!

Akira | 7.7.10 @ 6:31PM

How could American soldiers have been killed by Nazis?

That doesn't make any sense. There were no Nazi soldiers in Pennsylvania or the Dakotas.

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YOu people are so tedious, so pathetic, so boring.

Somebody says he's opposed o the US having anything to do with The Zionist Entity, and all you can do is shout "antishemite!" "Nazi!"

Here's another Anti-Shemite Nazi for you to criticize:

U.S. Secretary of State John Quincy Adams, The House of Representatives, 1821.07.04

And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?

Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.

She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.

She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own.

She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.

She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.

But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.

The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....

She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....

[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.

Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 6:43PM

Clark Anderson.
Doesn't sound like a jewish name?
But one never can tell, as it is jews wont, to change their names, so as to fool their host, all the better to achieve their traitorous, and nefarious designs.

Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 6:18PM

"The Above Mr. Phillip Marlowe is one of those persons that made Adolph Hitler his GOD, he blames the US for Killing innocent Germans during WW2, This Phony Patriot wrote about the German Nazis"

A "Nazi"?
Far from it.
Wise to judaism's many disgusting strategies?
Definitely.

Don't be swayed by a commenter, who sees nothing wrong in murdering children for sport, (Palestine), Piracy and murder on the High Seas (Marmara),and fomenting jewish wars that your children die in, and you pay for ( Iraq, Afghanistan, soon to be Iran).
Judge for yourself.
http://incogman.wordpress.com/
http://brianakira.wordpress.com/

Everyone who is wise to the jew, is called a Nazi, by the jew.

So it goes.

Personally speaking, and based on comparison, of both philosophies, vis a vis, morality, ethics etc.

I'd rather be a Nazi than a jew!

Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 6:49PM

Quotes from the Above Nazi Phillip Marlowe blog
As I mentioned his Nazi Comrades are already here.

"We need Hitler here, wish he took over and show us the light.
America Needs Hitler NOW
America Needs Hitler NOW
Herr Hitler was right as usual. We need more today who are proud to HATE THE JEWS as he did rather than think that the salvation of the White race is in neocon Islamophobic Kosher garbage. Hitler would have been proud of Aryan Moslems like myself!
Good one Incog.
There is so much that Hitler said that are lessons and warnings to us all.Blacks, whites, browns, gentiles and yes, even jews.
I often refer to Hitler when in discussion about the current world situation.
Its usually a bad idea to drop the H-bomb to the unawakened, being as the name has become such an evil curse word thanx to the propaganda machine, but I just dont give a fuck anymore. The’ll either get it or not.
Whatever.
Time is getting short and so is my patience.
Anyway, good job posting his translated words. Hitler was a brilliant man who loved his German people. He awoke his nation to the threat of the jew. In time his name will be cleared of all the jew slant against him. He is a true hero."

Phillip Marlowe| 7.7.10 @ 7:05PM

"I often refer to Hitler when in discussion about the current world situation."

Yeah, I bet you do. Hell, you people call everyone who dares speak out as Hitlers and Nazis.

America would like to know if your type will ever shut up about it. We're sick and tired of the Nazi BULL!

You've been milking the Hitler Schtick for what, 60 years now? You've used it to steal an entire land right out from under the people who lived there (Palestinians); whom you STILL treat like dogs.

BEGONE YOU ISRAEL-FIRSTERS and "dual citizens" of Israel. You are traitors to America.

Akira | 7.7.10 @ 6:54PM

Some notes for genuine Christians.

1. If you don't know what hasbara is, please find out. It's Hebrew for "persuaion", but actually it's a Jew-State government campaign, very well-funded with US tax dollars, to start web-sites, usually as fake Christians, to start YouTube channels, to troll the Internet, often "debating" with oneself under different identities. Please keep this in mind when online.

2. Jews, as Jews, lie. They do so because Jews, as Jews, don't value truth. Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, The Truth, said to the Jews:

[John 8:44]

3. Saint Paul wrote, in his letter to the Church at Thessalonica, that the Jews are Christ-Killers:

"you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the same things those churches suffered from the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men."

The people who killed Christ have no problem killing Americans, lying about "gas chambers" and so on.

Of course Woody Allen and Roman Polanski didn't litteraly howl for Christ's execution. But spiritually, they are, every day, in all their works, Christ-Killers, because they reject Christ, reject God, reject the Truth, reject The Gospels. And they seek to converty others to join them in their own destruction.

Christ to the pharisees (i.e, rabbis):

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are."

By following these Christ-Killers, by kow-rowing to them, you are risking joing them as sons of hell, as God the Son taught.

Now, what motivates so many Jews -- such as Allen, Polanski, Al Goldstein, Henry Morganthaler, et al, to be so perverse, so twisted, so evil?

It's their cult.

We are dealing with monsters. This is just one example of many of the filth in their unholy books.

Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 55b

Editor: Rabbi Isadore Epstein.

Published under the authority of The Very Reverend Rabbi Israel Brodie, Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom.

Published by The (Jewish) Soncino Press, 1935

"A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. ... If she married a priest, she may eat of terumah ... A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife acquires her ... but he cannot divorce her until he attains his majority. He is defiled through coition with a niddah [a woman defiled by menstruation] ..."

http://www.come-and-hear.com/s.....html#PARTb

http://halakhah.com/pdf/nezikin/Sanhedrin.pdf

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"Oy Vey! It's taken out of context!" they'll say.

So here's the context: Menstruation, Bestiality, The Pox, and having to wait until a girl is three years and a day old before you can have sexual intercourse with her:

Sanhedrin 55b:

A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. The penalty of adultery may be incurred through her; [if a niddah] she defiles him who has connection with her, so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea].5 If she married a priest, she may eat of terumah;6 If any unfit person7 has a connection with her, he disqualifies her from the priesthood —8 If any of the forbidden degrees had intercourse with her, they are executed on her account,9 but she is exempt.10 Now, ‘any of the forbidden degrees’ implies even a beast: in this case, there is degradation but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught that they [including a beast] are slain on her account.11 [No, this is not conclusive, as it can be argued that] since she deliberately offended there is a stumbling-block] [though she is a minor] but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon her; now, He shewed mercy to her, but not to the animal.

Raba said: Come and hear! A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife [the former having left no issue] acquires her [as wife]. But he cannot divorce her until he attains his majority.12 He is defiled through coition with a niddah,13 so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea] — He disqualifies [a woman from the priesthood],14 but cannot enable a woman to eat [of terumah].15 He renders an animal unfit for the altar,16 and it is stoned on his account,17 and if he had intercourse with one of the degrees forbidden in the Torah, the latter is executed. Now here there is degradation, but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught: ‘It is stoned on his account.’ Since it was a deliberate offence, there is a stumbling-block, but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon him; now, He showed mercy to him, but not to the animal.

Notes

(5) A man who had sexual connection with a niddah, defiles that upon which he lies even if he does not actually touch it. But the degree of uncleanliness it thereby acquires is not the same as that of bedding upon which a niddah herself, or a person afflicted with gonorrhoea, lies. For in the latter case, the defilement is so great that the bedding in turn renders any person or utensil with which it comes into contact unclean; whilst in the former, it can only defile foodstuffs and liquids. This is the same degree of uncleanliness possessed by a garment which has lain upon, or been borne by a zab (i.e., one afflicted with issue).

(6) As the law of an Israelite's (adult) daughter who married a priest. But if she was less than three years old, although the Kiddushin accepted on her behalf by her father is valid, yet since she is sexually immature, the marriage cannot be consummated, and hence she is not thereby enabled to eat of terumah. On terumah, the priest's portion of an Israelite's produce, v. Glos.

(7) E.g., a heathen, hallal, nathin, or bastard.

(8) I.e., if a priest's daughter, or if the daughter of a Levite or Israelite married to a priest, she may not eat of terumah.

(9) If they are of those forbidden on pain of death, v. supra 53a.

(10) As she is a minor.

(11) This solves R. Hamuna's problem.

(12) For, being a minor, he has no power to release her from a bond laid upon her, in the first place, by an adult (his brother).

(13) This rendering follows the more correct text of the Mishnah, Niddah 45a, of which this is a quotation, which has umittamma beniddah (through or by a niddah), instead of the reading here: umittamma keniddah, as a niddah.

(14) V. p. 343, n. 6.

(15) If he is a priest, and has sexual connection with an Israelite's daughter with marital intent, this does not authorise her to eat of terumah, because he has no legal powers of acquisition in marriage, excepting over his levirate sister-in-law, who is already bound to him.

(16) If he committed bestiality therewith, only one witness attesting the offence, the animal is not killed, nor does it become unfit for secular use, but it may no longer be offered as a sacrifice.

(17) If his bestiality was attested by two witnesses.

4. You think of yourself as a Conservative? You complain about abortion, immigration, smut and filth on TV and movies and rap music, lies in the media? Who owns the media, my friend? Can you name any record company, Hollywood studio or Talmud-Vision channel that isn't owned by Jews? Who is behind most porn, open borders, financial corruption, and abortion? The Jew.

5. Jew is Jew.

6. God Bless You, and May He Grant You Wisdom.

Clark Anderson| 7.7.10 @ 7:08PM

Akira the Comrade of the Nazi Phillip Marlowe

Get some More Anti Jewish Trash , Let the readers see your Hate.

God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them. Period....

Phillip Marlowe | 7.7.10 @ 7:12PM

The Zionist who gave himself the Gentile-sounding name "Clark Anderson," is already monitoring my blog, obviously from his comments.

This is what they do, work the Internet to keep real America confused by pretending to be just like them. This is how it's done in the US mainstream media, matter of fact.

WAKE THE HELL UP, AMERICA!

Here's a little something I wrote. Please take just a few minutes to read it and see where I'm coming from. Thanks!

http://incogman.wordpress.com/.....smackdown/

Akira | 7.7.10 @ 7:17PM

Re: "God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them. "

Really?

Says who?

Where did you hear that?

Or is it written down somewhere?

And what is "Israel"?

C. Paton| 7.7.10 @ 7:22PM

Nazi Phillip Marlowe

crawl back in your hole blog and take you psycho friends with you.

Phillip Marlowe | 7.7.10 @ 7:33PM

Yeah, that's right, go ahead call me a Nazi. That's SOP for you traitorous Hasbara agents to call any American who dares to comment on you people.

It's so tiresome, by now.

"All war is based on deception."
-- Sun Tzu c. 2300 B.C.

Sounds like a quote straight out of the MOSSAD handbook.

Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 7:48PM

Another jewish patsy,

calling calling goyim Nazi!

Pretty Polly, Pretty Polly!

You've been well trained.

Anybody notice how ben stein, in the banner at the top of the page, looks like he's wearing a pair of comedy groucho scnozzbrowgoggles?

I think that clears up any lingering question's as to the "slant" of this particular blog!

Dolt.

Cannibal Rabbi| 7.7.10 @ 7:34PM

Clarkjob Andersonfarb.

"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them. Period.... "

Is that it?
Everyone has to fight jewish wars, because jews say so?

I don't want to die, or have my children die, in jewish fomented wars, so jews can work out their neuroses as a "people", at their expense!

Is that clear?

When will you as a "people", learn to deal with your own problems in house, instead of dragging everyone else into your martial , wank fantasies, like the author of the article has done?

Don't go looking for trouble.
If you can't win a fight by yourself, don't provoke it!

When, if ever, will you tire of wholesale slaughter of non-jews?
WHEN?
There has to be something mentally WRONG with you to behave this way. NO?

Akira | 7.7.10 @ 7:45PM

A common Jew hasbarat tactic, designed to exploit the Christian "goyim", is to throw out this bizarre maxim:

"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them."

Naive people are led to believe that this is some sort of Biblical injunction. You'll notice that unlike most Biblical citation, there's no reference to Book, Chapter, Verse.

That's because there's no such Biblical quote or reference.

Here's what it says at Genesis 12: 1-3:

"Now the LORD said to Abram [later changes to Abraham], 'Go forth from your country, and from your relatives, and from your father's house, to the land which I will show you; And I will make you a great nation, and I will bless you, and make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

So, you see, God said that He would bless those who bless Abraham, and curse those who curse Abraham. There's nothing there about "Israel" or "the people of Israewl" And definitely nothing about Jews, since there were no Jews at that time.

Now, if someone should say that the "great nation" referred to is Israel, well, who are the descendents of Abraham?

Abraham is the founding patriarch of the Israelites, Ishmaelites (> Arabs), Edomites, and the Midianites and kindred peoples, according to the book of Genesis.

Anyway, most Americans believe that their government should be secular, so such theological arguments shouldn't be guiding government policy.

Furthermore, most American Christians or Jews don't take the book of Genesis literally, so it's irrational and political to simply pick and choose passages that suit one's temporal purpose (and, as already shown, the passage doesn't even refer to either Israel or Jews.)

Now what is "Israel"?

One meaning of Israel: Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham.

The Christian understanding of "Israel" has always been that The Church is Israel, since the Church is The Body of Christ, and Christ is The Word of God, the Logos; while the Jews are those who rejected Christ.

This state in Occupied Palestine, this Jewish State, this Zionist Entity, is just a political entity. Even if you can't see that it's a foul and corrupt and bloody state -- even if you like or admire it for some reason -- it is obviously not Israel in the spiritual sense. It's just another rotten temporal political creation.

So you see, this is just one more example of how the Jews lie, and how they exploit the innocent.

Akira | 7.7.10 @ 8:00PM

Note that quoted above, in the introduction to the article is:

"All war is based on deception."
-- Sun Tzu c. 2300 B.C.

And what is the motto of Mossad?

Deception. Subversion. Deceit. Lies. "You are of your father the devil."

To any genuine readers here:

This site is a vehicle of deception. These people in this cave are just lying in wait for one such as you, hoping they will be able to deceive you, to draw you into their web of deceit.

It's the same with the "Dems". The Raps, the Dems, Right, Left, Libs, and so on: deception. A play, a game, designed to get you to run up and down the field while the puppet masters wait for you to exhaust yourself.

And then?

They eat you.

Dick Stallion| 7.7.10 @ 8:20PM

"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those who curses them."

Even if Israel is run by a bloodthirsty criminal network?!

Count Cherep | 7.7.10 @ 8:31PM

The following book, written by a former US Counter Intelligence Officer, reveals the agenda of International Jewry.

The Ultimate World Order
— as Pictured in “The Jewish Utopia”
By Robert H. Williams

Excerpt:

If the Communists think they are going to conquer all the nations and set up a world government under a dictator of their own choosing they may be in for a surprise. For their parent, the sect which originally launched the Communist movement as an offshoot to accomplish a specific and temporary purpose, has plans for an ultimate world order of its own; and this sect, commonly called Zionist, now vastly overshadows the much cruder Communist machine in skill, finance, organization and influence.

The Communist plan for rubbing out all national, religious, cultural and racial lines and submerging the world in formless, characterless chaos for easy domination is grandiose enough. To say that there is still another, more grandiose plan beyond that for which the Communist machine was set up is indeed to challenge the credulity of most of us, especially of us Anglo-Saxons who are too busy with our humdrum routines to pull the
propaganda curtain aside and see the giant hiding there.

http://iamthewitness.com/books.....a-1957.pdf

Flanders| 7.7.10 @ 8:49PM

From the external resoures section at Source Watch, we find a description of the tactics used by "Clark Anderson". We later find a description of the program employed by the author, or perhaps it is better stated as a program employing the author.

"Quote: "The Hasbara Handbook prescribes fascinating instructions on attacking the messenger and avoiding the message at all costs ‘in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote’ their cause. In a section entitled ‘Name Calling,’ Israel's Jewish Agency writes, ‘Creating negative connotations by name calling is done to try and get the audience to reject a person or idea on the basis of negative associations, without allowing a real examination of that person or idea."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hasbara

Here is the Source Watch info about the author, Jed Babbin, which includes the information that Babbin was, and presumably still is, a part of a Pentagon program, "to recruit "key influentials" to help sell a wary public on "a possible Iraq invasion." [Cannot post the link due to comment requirements, but you can search]

You can also find him listed in the second alphabetical listing section in this 04-01-2010, 06:50 PM comment which lists Babbin as an Israeli Hasbara author (Jed Babbin, under J).

http://www.nwn-forum.co.uk/arc.....-3141.html

The link to the source is in the introductory comment. How do Americans like being given propaganda in the guise of regular news and opinion. It happens to us all of the time and at first it was Israel and now it is Israel supporters within our own government who is doing it to us. That is NOT free speech and not from a free press. Wake up and see what is actually going on. The vital interests of the US is at stake, and depends largely on your ability to view facts from the standpoint of those interests, and we should not be operating for the vital or financial interests of Israel and their paid supporters at the expense of our country.

Anonymous| 7.7.10 @ 11:36PM

"God blesses those who bless the people of Israel, and curses those curses them!"

Which god are you pertaining to? Have you considered that the god of the murderers who occupy Israel today is actually Lucifer? Yes, the Israelis worship Satan himself!

How can anyone bless a state loaded with an alien race (Khazars) who have removed by force the true and original occupants of the area, the Palestinians, and wants only war with its neighbors, and all of mankind?

And by the way...How can anyone actually believe this garbage about Iran? Iran has signed the NPT treaty which the evil state of Israel has absolutely NOT. Iran does NOT possess nuclear weapons, but the evil state of Israel does (several hundred in fact). Iran has not invaded or caused a war with anyone for over a thousand years (unlike the evil state of Israel). Iran is following all the guidelines set by the IAEA for its peaceful Nuclear power plant development (unlike Israel with its criminal Dimona breeder reactor for nuclear weapons). Iran does not practice racism (unlike Israel against the Palestinians and Christians). Iran has NEVER said it wanted to wipe Israel off the map as falsely put out by the Zionist Jewish controlled sick twisted MSM..... I could go on and on......

How many more lies and untruths must you put up about the criminal state of Israel? If you love that nation so much... Why not quit being a heinous dual citizen in the United States, and move to your cherished Zionist dreamland?

Phillip Marlowe | 7.7.10 @ 11:47PM

Hasbara agent, Babbin, is feeding us the Israeli line, using the Tom Clancy schtick, so we think the plucky little Israelis will be doing the job America should.

Cute bit of Zionist media propagandizing. When will Americans figure out these people? When more body bags land at Dover?

Akira | 7.8.10 @ 8:39AM

Who conspired to unite the USA with all of Latin America:

Brother Washington
Brother Jefferson
Brother Franklin

This is an example of how unbelievably stupid Americans are, and how rancid the USA is. Most Americans don't even know that the USA was intended to cover all of the Americas.

This was the intention of the "founding fathers" of the USA, Mexico, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Boliva, Cuba, Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil, etc.

And then it was intended to be subsumed into the Masonic UN.

One of the reasons Latin America is so messed up is because its leaders have been even more Masonic than the US's. So, as the US becomes ever more Hispanic, and as the borders become ever-more fictitious, expect the US to become more Masonic.

With an even more Masonic society, expect MORE:

Oligarchic control
Brainwashing
Jewish power
Corruption
Racial tensions
Multiculturalism
Anti-Christian activities and propaganda
Materialism
Idolatry
Queerism

... And all the other phenomena associated with Slavemasonry.

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One of the things you won't hear in arguments about who was better or worse between Allende and Pinochet: They both belonged to the same Masonic Lodges.

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Mexico has had even more Masonic leaders than the US has had. And unlike in the US, where many presidents have just been puppets, those Mexican Masonic leaders actually exercised power.

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Every Latin American "independence" or revolutionary "icon" has been a Slavemason:

O'Higgins, Marti, Miranda,San Martin, Castro, Bolivar, Chavez, "Che". etc.

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The goal of North and South America's Masonic leaders from the very beginning of the "revolutionary" movement has been to unify all of the Americas under Masonic, oligarchic rule, as just one phase in the creation of a Jew World Order.

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From the Masons of California [ http://www.calodges.org/ncrl/miranda.html ]:

QUOTE

GENERAL FRANCISCO DE MIRANDA FATHER OF REVOLUTIONARY MASONRY IN LATIN AMERICA

By: Carlos Antonio Martinez, Jr.

Before the world even heard of Colossal Revolutionaries, such as: Bro:. Augusto "Cesar" Sandino, Farabundo Marti and/or Ernesto "Che" Guevara, men whose heroic struggles and ultimate sacrifice for Freedom, Justice and Equality went beyond the territorial limits of their own countries of birth, Latin America was able to look up to the towering figure of its First Revolutionary Leader Without Borders, our Illustrious Brother, Don Francisco De Miranda.

The Father of Latin American Revolutionary Masonry and Precursor of South American Independence (as Miranda was/is commonly known) inspired the foundation of "The Most Worthy Lodge of Rational Knights of Lautaro", which, operated in Cadiz, Spain, and where some of the most notable Founding Fathers of the yet to be born South American Republics, such as: Simon Bolivar, Jose De San Martin and Bernardo O'Higgins, were initiated into the Craft. ... Miranda was able to plant the seeds of Free-Masonry in almost every country where he lived.

Various North American and French Historians [assert that his] initiation...took place in Philadelphia in the year 1783, at a Lodge, which was frequently visited by our equally Illustrious French Brother, General Lafayette.
...
The archives of the Lodge where Miranda received the Masonic Light were lost. What is amply known, however, is that Lafayette was his Principal Recommender or "Godfather of Initiation". There are also numerous references citing his constant visits to Lodges in New York, and his fraternal meetings with George Washington at a number of Masonic gatherings.

And it is precisely for that uncertainty concerning the day of Miranda's initiation in Philadelphia, that some of the most orthodox historians have shed much doubt over the Precursor's Masonic Induction taking place in the United States. ... However, posterior investigations to the publications of two volumes by Americo Carniccelli give plenty of evidence of the contacts between Lafayette and Miranda, and, which, culminated in the latter's initiation in a Lodge in Philadelphia, in the year 1783.

Other investigators assert that Miranda was initiated in Paris, France, in the year 1797, months prior to his return to London.
...
[In] various English News Papers in 1785...Miranda is mentioned to having been seen avidly engaging in a number of Masonic Convivials with London's foremost Intellectuals and Nobles.

After considering all the available evidence and most appealing theories, a british historian concluded that Miranda was initiated in Philadelphia, in 1783; was passed to the Degree of Fellow-Craft in London, in 1785; and raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason in Paris, in 1790. This chronology seems to be in more affinity with the Truth, for it keeps an accurate relation with the General's constant journeys through those countries.

In 1798, while in London, he founded the Lodge "La Gran Reunion Americana", or, as translated into English "The Great American Reunion".
...
Miranda conferred the Degree of Master solely to those who excelled in their intellectual capacities and were known for their Fervent Love to Freedom and to the Cause of American Independence. At the end of their oaths and obligations the newly raised Master Masons stated a special clause, which ended with the phrase: "thus I shall repudiate and combat all tyrans and tyrannies."

The true labors of "The Great American Reunion", in fact, did not revolve around Masonic Symbology and Catechism, as much as they did, around the French Revolution and the necessity to liberate the Spanish Colonies of America.

And, that particular characteristic, is precisely what Orthodox Masons criticize about Miranda. They assert that he purposely ignored the rituals and the proper conduction of ceremonies, with the objective of creating "Clandestine Subversive Cells" that ultimately contributed to the establishment of a republican system, and a reform in the social structure of the colonies he wished to liberate.

What today's Masonic Historians and/or Critics of Miranda neglect to mention, choose to omit, or, simply ignore in their "enlightened account" of past events and/or opinions, is that in those days, every single Masonic Freedom Fighter gave avid priority, within the walls of their own Masonic Temples, to the discussion of tactics and strategies on the struggles they were engaging in.

At that moment in time, NO adherence to any Masonic Ritual and/or Precept was more important, than to live up to the Masonic Principle and Commandment of fighting to the death for the Sovereignty of the People. And, that, is exactly what our fore-brothers of "The Great American Reunion" did!

It is note-worthy to add, at this time, that according to the Bolivian Masonic Historian, Bro:. Angel Salas, the Grand Marshall of Ayacucho, Bro:. Antonio Jose De Sucre, used to discuss and plan his project of government during "Special Tiled Meetings" at the Masonic Temple of Chuquisaca.
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Unfortunately, for Miranda, his detractors keep on surfacing to this very day. It seems as though they cannot forgive him for being the son of a humble Canary Islander, and for never formalizing his relationships with the European Nobility, notwithstanding his stature, admirable culture and military merits earned in the battlefield.

As mentioned earlier, Miranda was the Intellectual Creator and Principal Founder of "The Most Worthy Lodge of Rational Knights of Lautaro". At the end of 1785, while forcibly over-staying in London, due to having a prize put on his head by the Spanish Crown, he suggested for the historic Lodge the name of "Lautaro" in homage to the Araucanian (Chilean) Leader who defeated the Spanish Conquistador Valdivia in 1554.

During the subsequent period comprehended between 1807 and 1811, a number of affiliated Lodges began their labors in the Spanish cities of Cadiz and Madrid. Among their chartered members we find the names of the following Freemasons and Notables:

- Jose De Gurruchaga
- Santiago Marino
- Andres Bello
- Luis Lopez Melendez
- Simon Bolivar
- Jose Maria Caro
- Bernardo O'Higgins
- Jose Miguel Carrera
- Juan Pablo Fretes
- Jose De San Martin
- Tomas Guido
- Jose Cortes De Madariaga
- Francisco Isnardi

In 1812, the first affiliated "Lautaro Lodge" was established in American soil. This ultra secretive Masonic Lodge was instituted and headquartered in Buenos Aires (Argentina) by San Martin, Alvear and Zapiola. It had as its prime objective to struggle for the achievement of continental independence, by succeeding in the military arena, and by insuring that all like-minded politicians and patriots gave it their full backing and support. Among its founding members we find the following names:

- Jose De San Martin
- Carlos Maria De Alvear
- Jose Matias Zapiola
- Ramon Eduardo De Anchoris
- Bernardo De Monteagudo
- Juan Martin De Pueyrredon
- Antonio Alvarez Jonte
- Nicolas Rodriguez Pena
- Julian Alvarez

After issuing charters to a considerable number of affiliated Lodges in almost every important South American city, the "Lautaro Masonic Lodges" expanded their original aim to creating virtual independent governments all throughout Latin America. Given their character of "Secret Fraternal Organizations", these Lodges were able to effectively create outstanding revolutionary networks in Chile, Argentina, Venezuela, Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, and even Brasil.

On March 12, 1817, immediately after the patriotic triumph in the Battle of Chacabuco, the "Grand Masonic Lodge of Lautaro" was duly established in Santiago. Their principal founders were our Illustrious Brothers, General Jose De San Martin and Bernardo O'Higgins, whom, appears to have been the sole architect of the Mother Constitution of "The First Masonic Grand Lodge of Lautaro" with headquarters in Chile.

Aside from San Martin and O'Higgins, some of their most distinguished chartered members included:

- Tomas Guido
- Jose Antonio Balcarce
- Jose Ignacio Zenteno
- Juan Gregorio Las Heras
- Ramon Freire
- Manuel Blanco Encalada
- Miguel Zanartu
- Ramon Arriagada

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Add to these Hispanic Slavemasons the names of their English, French, Scottish, Dutch, Jewish and German Lodge brothers who established the "United States of America", and you have the entire Masonic foundations for The American Union currently taking shape.

This is why illegal immigration across the southern border will not be stopped.

This is why the US is constantly engaged in wars and promoting perpetual global revolution.

Because the USA is and has always been a Masonic state, and was intended from the beginning to serve the interests of Masonic domination of the globe. And Masons are slaves to Jews. And Masons want to establish a New World Order, which is actually a Jew World Order.

Charles Martel| 7.8.10 @ 1:37PM

You people are disgusting, and your screeds are nothing more than anti-Jewish pornography. No one here is interested in watching you expose your virulent bone-chilling hate. Go away, and never return.

I mean it. Go back to your own Sand-Nazi blogs.

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Legion Aire| 7.8.10 @ 2:16PM

While hating jews for the simple fact that they are jews may not plausible to many it goes without saying that the jews are the main cause of all the hardships they face and have faced. Their solidarity within their own group while perpetuating the destruction of another cannot go without notice.

It is unlawful for a jew to marry a non jew in their own country, but here in America it is the jew that owns the media that is putting it out that we as whites must assimilate with all other races if we don't want to be construed as racist.

They advertise race mixing on a daily basis and yet find it to be so disgusting themselves that they have made laws against such actions. They demand that equal rights must be enforced as long as it is only on the benefit of non-whites. Whites are an unprotected class as far as hate crimes go.

As far as the arabs dancing in the streets on Sept.11 I do believe we arrested a group of Mossad agents dancing and filming the buildings collapse. So the jews have a way of spinning that little fiction around as well.

They have been the cause of most of the terrorism this nation has faced be it in egypt in the 40's and 50's up to the bombings of our embassies. You can cover it up with all your little "it was the arabs bullshit all you want" The American people are waking up to your kind of subversive behavior and this nation will get put on the list of all the other nations who have gotten sick of your ways and expelled you from our lands.

Can it be that it is simply antisemitism that has made you unwelcome in every nation you have tried to call home? Or is there some underlying circumstance that is equatable in all these scenarios? How can it be called antisemitism when you aren't even descendants of semites? The majority of zionist jews are ashkenazi jews to begin with. You are converts to that faith in the 6th century and you follow the talmud instead of the torah.

Even if you have the ability to dupe the majority of Americans into believing you are the chosen there are many more who know the real truth and the truth does not need to hide behind laws to protect it from ever coming out.

Did 6 million really die? If so why do you need to fear the question and make it illegal to even question it? If the halocost was so horrible you think the average jew would be sickened by the typical jews use of such to profit.

Charles Martel| 7.8.10 @ 6:25PM

Blame the victim: good idea, or at least of a piece with all previous efforts.

And there is only one kind of person peddling the Dancing Mossad myth. That kind of person is well represented in this thread. Fortunately, thinking people know better.

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Legion Aire| 7.8.10 @ 6:39PM

Typical of the jew to always play the victim. There is only one kind of person peddling the dancing mossad myth?

An excerpt from your own countries newspaper
http://www.haaretz.com/print-e.....dy-1.70005

Makes me wonder how they knew to be there filming in the first place. Maybe we should trust a group known to lie and cheat when caught red handed as opposed to our own police right?

posterchild| 7.9.10 @ 12:37AM

Anyone that plainly exposes the Zionist is labeled a hater, anti-semite or Naziii; but in turn can't provide reasons for doing so other than to smear anyone with an opposing view. Nice labels. "Much better than antiChrist.

little guy| 7.9.10 @ 4:04PM

The American Spectator is obviously a JIDF disinformation operation.

Legion Aire| 7.9.10 @ 4:50PM

Mr. Martel,

I am not blaming anyone, I am asking poignant questions and would like a response which does not include name calling.

Why is it that if the halocost was real and everything your people are teaching is on the up and up, does it need to hide behind laws banning its opposition?

I personally suggest everyone to not take my word on this subject, but also do not take Martel's either, research it yourself.

Ask yourself who was it that attacked the USS Liberty. Research the Levon affair, then ask yourself are these people really our allies.

Jo Boward| 7.10.10 @ 8:18AM

Little Guy

If "The American Spectator is obviously a JIDF disinformation operation"

So why are you and your Nazi's friend hanging around here....... get back to your Nazi Parties.

Charles Martel| 7.10.10 @ 7:01PM

"Not many people know it, but the Führer was a terrific dancer."

The people posting here may not actually be Nazis, but it would seem -- in great big bright glowing letters, it would "seem" -- that their only problem with the Nazis is that they didn't finish the job.

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Legion Aire| 7.10.10 @ 9:31AM

So Jo just because we don't buy into all the bullshit that is being presented to us we are Nazi?

I love it when you ask a jew a very simple question, they know that they can't answer intelligently, because to do so would let some of the sheep see that there is a wolf within their midst.

So instead you resort to name calling. Typical. Let me guess that being a patriot for my own country and not believing that we should risk our own national security for another nation makes me a antisemite also right?

What don't you sheep get about this whole Israeli first mission you all seem to have fallen into. Our founding fathers would be disgusted with all of you.

Jo Boward| 7.10.10 @ 6:37PM

Legion Aire

I never called YOU personally Nazi, so I guess you know what you are !

Legion Aire| 7.10.10 @ 8:52PM

That's what I thought, I guess the questions were to difficult or just to much of a touchy subject.

Odd how you all play the victim even though you are the ones calling names and insinuating facts not in evidence. Did you see me call you a kike or a heeb. but damned if not all of your responses either outright are calling others names or at least insinuating it.

The truth does not need to hide behind attacks it can withstand the views of the public.

Jo Boward| 7.11.10 @ 2:24AM

Legion Aire

"That's what I thought" from your mixed writing, you don't think at all, all you present is recycling cut and paste boring low white supremacist trash.

Legion Aire| 7.11.10 @ 9:31AM

All I am doing is presenting very simple questions, that you and your Israeli firsters seem to not be able to answer. The more and more you thrash against the truth and resort to name calling the more ignorant you appear to be.

I have never stated that I am superior to anyone else, I am asking you why as a patriotic American why should I support an "ally" that offers this nation nothing other than world wide contempt all the while taking billions of dollars off the American taxpayers? Not to mention the repeated terrorist attacks your nation has committed against this nation, and yet has still refused to apologize for such affairs when caught red handed.

Why is it that you are afraid to answer the questions? Can any of you post a response that does not call others names? It reminds me of trying to correct a third grader.

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